Dead Man Hating

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The dead guy is back again, with another non-specific audiotape message hastily put together by Al Qaeda’s media group: Bin Laden urges jihad against Israel over Gaza.

CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden urged Muslims to launch a jihad against Israel and condemned Arab governments as allies of the Jewish state in a new message aimed at harnessing anger in the Mideast over the Gaza offensive.

Bin Laden spoke in an audiotape posted Wednesday on Islamic militant Web sites where al-Qaida usually issues its messages. It was his first tape since May and came nearly three weeks after Israel started its campaign against Gaza’s militant Hamas rulers.

“There is only one strong way to bring the return of Al-Aqsa and Palestine, and that is jihad in the path of God,” bin Laden said in the 22-minute audiotape, referring to the revered Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem. “The duty is to urge people to jihad and to enlist the youth into jihad brigades.”

“Muslim nation, you are capable of defeating the Zionist entity with your popular capabilities and your great hidden strength—without the support of (Arab) leaders and despite the fact that most of (the leaders) stand in the barracks of the Crusader-Zionist alliance,” bin Laden said.

Notice that there’s nothing in Bin Laden’s statements to prove he’s talking about the current Gaza conflict. This is boilerplate Jew-hatred.

Eventually they’ll run out of old recordings to cut and paste.

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377 comments
1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:17:42am

Why won't he just die already. Who is this guy? Elvis?

2 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:19:07am

I disagree: your good, old-fashioned jihadist hate messages are timely no matter when recorded or broadcast. What he says on this tape can refer to any event anywhere in the region since about 1968 or so, and will be in use for decades to come.

3 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:19:23am

Its like DVD extras for Al Queda: over 90 minutes of Osama deleted screeds!

4 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:19:39am

Cut and paste...Is he dead? Did the kidneys finally give up the ghost?

5 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:19:43am

I it live? Or is it Memorex?

6 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:21:05am

Speaking of Gaza, what is that steady rumble I hear on the GazaCam?

7 midwestgak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:21:11am

Heard in a news report that he refers to our current economic situation. Vague reporting. No specifics were given. Anyone hear something more specific re his comments?

8 Prikolno  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:21:15am

It sounds like pre-recorded messages for any occasions before hand.

9 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:21:15am

"Hastily put together" Charles? We're 19 days into Operation Cast Lead's ground operations, and there was just about a week of air strikes prior to that. It took him almost a month to get out a message. He was slower than Zawahiri, and of course he's not saying anything different than he's said before.

Jihad.

It's all he knows.

It's all he can say or do.

All he can do is talk, because he's not going out to fight Israel himself. Neither are Haniyeh or Meshaal for that matter. Better that their thugs do the fighting and dying while Meshaal is cozy in Damascus and Haniyeh is doing his best to avoid being turned into wormfood by an Israeli airstrike.

Osama has been calling for jihad against the West and Israel from the moment he came on the international stage. Nothing's changed. He's more irrelevant now than he's been in years as he appears to be a Johnny Come Lately to the Hamas banner. He just blends into the chorus of those calling for Israel's destruction, including Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Morales, and all the rest of the anti-West crowd.

10 VegasRick  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:21:20am

Video of bin ladens elite fighting forces.

Youtube Video
11 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:21:31am

re: #6 MandyManners

Speaking of Gaza, what is that steady rumble I hear on the GazaCam?

It sounds like an idling engine--a big, idling engine. Tanks?

12 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:21:37am

Not to sound like a post-modernist, but, ultimately, what is this guy but a voice on a tape and an image on a screen? He has, as it were, deconstructed himself, or, better, his followers have distilled him into nothing.

13 looking closely  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:21:39am
Eventually they’ll run out of old recordings to cut and paste.

Via the magic of audio splicing, infinite new ones can be generated by re-assembling pieces of the old ones.

Bin-laden in more of a concept/symbol at this point anyway, like Che.

It doesn't really matter if he's alive or dead.

14 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:21:54am

re: #6 MandyManners

Generators. HAMAS cuts the power at dark.

OTHER
WISE,
R

15 tackle  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:22:24am

He may be dead. He is irrelevant. I wonder if, before he died, he recorded hours of tape for future use.

16 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:22:37am

Where are these tapes put together? I have a hard time believing they're done in a cave.

17 VegasRick  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:22:46am

re: #13 looking closely

Via the magic of audio splicing, infinite new ones can be generated by re-assembling pieces of the old ones.

Bin-laden in more of a concept/symbol at this point anyway, like Che.

It doesn't really matter if he's alive or dead.

I'd prefer to know he's dead.

18 Super-ego  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:22:53am

He will never die and neither will Castro.

19 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:22:58am
-great hidden strength...

Hey, Osamer...we found your great hidden strength. Some asshole stored it in the basement of one of yer mosques.

"All yer great hidden strength are belong to us."

20 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:23:03am

It is curious though; bin Laden talks of a Gaza occupation. Doesn't he know that Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and only is back in Gaza because Hamas invited Israel in courtesy of thousands of kassam rockets?

21 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:23:04am

re: #15 tackle

Ala Col. Walt Kurtz?

COULD
BE,
R

22 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:23:05am

re: #14 Render

Generators. HAMAS cuts the power at dark.

OTHER
WISE,
R

I have never heard this before.

23 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:23:05am
urged Muslims to launch a jihad against Israel

What does he think they've been doing for 60 years?

24 Tumulus11  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:23:16am

. Little Green Footballs: The barracks of the Crusader-Zionist alliance.

25 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:23:25am

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why won't he just die already. Who is this guy? Elvis?

Elvis is dead, Micheal Jackson poinked Liza Marie. If Elvis where alive, MJ wouldn't be.

26 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:23:34am

re: #23 Sharmuta

What does he think they've been doing for 60 years?

Playing tiddly-winks.

27 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:23:55am

re: #25 jcm

Elvis is dead, Micheal Jackson poinked Liza Marie. If Elvis where alive, MJ wouldn't be.

Poinked?

28 dhg4  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:23:59am

I'd really like to see the video. It's always spooky when skeletons speak.

29 BeckoningChasm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:24:01am

"Al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden urged Muslims to launch a jihad against Israel"

Just now? What else have they been doing all these years?

30 Kragar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:24:05am

Wow. OBL* came out against Israel and is urging jihad? Thats a shock. I would never have guessed that.

31 Gella  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:25:12am

is he is CGI now? what a chicken, if he is so brave why he cant come out and open and say it, chicken

32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:25:33am

re: #10 VegasRick

That is so amazingly Monty Pythonesque.

33 Ron Shaw  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:25:35am

Yada, yada, yada, blah, blah, blah...same old same old from the creep of all creepdom...oh so very, very boring...maybe, the O can have a cave sit-down with Bin, too...that is if the O-inspired rise in the oceans doesn't engulf all the caves in Pakistan and Afghanistan first.

34 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:25:55am

re: #20 lawhawk

The entire Western Left talks about the mythical "occupation" of Gaza as if 2005 never happened. The Israeli withdrawl doesn't fit their meme.

===

Gaza cam link getting shaky.

But nothing happening.

GAME
OVER?,
R

35 Prikolno  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:26:09am

re: #29 BeckoningChasm

"Al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden urged Muslims to launch a jihad against Israel"

Just now? What else have they been doing all these years?

tea party ?

36 spirochete  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:26:25am

re: #20 lawhawk

It is curious though; bin Laden talks of a Gaza occupation. Doesn't he know that Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and only is back in Gaza because Hamas invited Israel in courtesy of thousands of kassam rockets?

Again, the goalposts have moved. Occupation now means the blockade and completely open borders.

37 VegasRick  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:26:28am

re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That is so amazingly Monty Pythonesque.

Crack me up everytime.

38 notutopia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:26:36am

re: #17 VegasRick

I'd prefer to know he's dead.

So would I.

39 midwestgak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:26:41am

re: #25 jcm

Micheal Jackson poinked Liza Marie.

eeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwww. I had forgetten about that.

40 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:27:21am

they say that BO is gonna go in and pop this cretin so all's well in Fairytale Land...stay focused!

41 dhg4  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:27:32am

re: #20 lawhawk

It is curious though; bin Laden talks of a Gaza occupation. Doesn't he know that Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and only is back in Gaza because Hamas invited Israel in courtesy of thousands of kassam rockets?

But it isn't it a talking point among the anti-Israel crowd that since Israel still controls the borders, Gaza is still occupied? Dahlan said after "disengagement" that unless Israel also withdrew from Netiv Ha'asarah it was still occupying Gaza.

Occupation is an elastic concept - more likely it means "Israel has the Cutzpah to exist" - Bin Laden's tape citing it doesn't prove that it was recorded before August 2005.

42 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:27:39am

If I was a hamasshole in gaza right now, I'd tell osama STFU. Damn bandwagon jihadi.

43 VegasRick  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:28:17am

re: #40 albusteve

they say that BO is gonna go in and pop this cretin so all's well in Fairytale Land...stay focused!

Gonna send some boyz from da hood?
Word.

44 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:28:43am

re: #22 MandyManners

Tonight (their night) is the first time I've actually seen them completely cut the power, but I have heard the generators before.

BLOOD
FIRE
DEATH,
R

45 tackle  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:28:54am

I wonder if Bush will mention Bid Laden in his farewell speech. I'm surprised there hasn't been more closure on this.

46 Digital Display  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:28:58am

re: #39 midwestgak

Micheal Jackson poinked Liza Marie.

eeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwww. I had forgetten about that.

I wish there was a sex tape..cause I ain't believing it till I see it..
/Don't worry mandy..I hit myself over the head with the clue by 4 just for thinking it.

47 razorbacker  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:29:01am

The words of dead men still ring.

"All forms of government destroy themselves by carrying their basic principles to excess. The democracies become too free, in politics and economics, in morals, even in literature and art, until at last even the puppy dogs in our homes rise on their hind legs and demand their rights...Disorder grows to such a point that a society will abandon all its liberty to anyone who can restore order."

-Plato The Republic

Some of those old dead guys still have relevance in today's world, if that's not too conservative a thought for y'all.

48 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:29:05am

Someone mentioned Python?

Youtube Video
49 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:29:11am

I want to hear 0sama refer to 0bama by name. Then we'll know he's alive.
We might hear it, but the tape will be like those ransom notes with words pasted from different magazines.

And a video won't prove anything; Hollywood has produced movies with dead people in them. Shouldn't be too hard to get 0sama mouthing words he's said before.

50 spirochete  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:29:42am

re: #17 VegasRick

I'd prefer to know he's dead.

I'm happy to know that every other nation in the middle east has an American ally in its midst (Israel-Syria- Iraq-Iran--Afghanistan-Pakistan-India)

Those guys are surrounded. Heh.

51 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:29:46am

re: #31 Gella

is he is CGI now? what a chicken, if he is so brave why he cant come out and open and say it, chicken

I'd say he could be the Gaza rooster, but he doesn't have any balls.

52 Gella  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:30:04am

maybe he had sex change operation ;)
it's Amanda bin Laden now

53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:30:05am

re: #49 Kosh's Shadow

Perfect. Who'da thunk it two or three years ago. I agree. Smart as hell you are.

54 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:30:17am

re: #28 dhg4

I'd really like to see the video. It's always spooky when skeletons speak.


Osama the dead terrorist with Jeff Dunham

55 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:30:35am

re: #44 Render

Tonight (their night) is the first time I've actually seen them completely cut the power, but I have heard the generators before.

BLOOD
FIRE
DEATH,
R

Who cut it? Israel? Why?

56 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:31:34am

re: #54 newsjunkie_ky

Osama the dead terrorist with Jeff Dunham

Youtube Video
57 Pietr  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:31:51am

re: #45 tackle

I wonder if Bush will mention Bid Laden in his farewell speech. I'm surprised there hasn't been more closure on this.

Mentioned OBL in his last press conference, was it monday? Newwsmax or FOX may have an video, or transcript-check for it.

58 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:32:17am

Just for the record, can anybody specify the last unequivocal legitimate video from Osama bin Laden? I'm thinking something from the winter 2001/2002, just before Tora Bora. There has been nothing convincingly new from him since.

Al Qaeda may have nailed him to his perch, but Osama is dead, joined the choir invisible, shuffled off, kicked it, snuffed.

59 SurferDoc  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:32:27am

Osama assumed room temperature a long time ago. His tapes, however, live on.

60 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:32:47am

re: #41 dhg4

But it isn't it a talking point among the anti-Israel crowd that since Israel still controls the borders, Gaza is still occupied? Dahlan said after "disengagement" that unless Israel also withdrew from Netiv Ha'asarah it was still occupying Gaza.

Occupation is an elastic concept - more likely it means "Israel has the Cutzpah to exist" - Bin Laden's tape citing it doesn't prove that it was recorded before August 2005.

Yes; it is like Lebanon. Israel withdrew; the UN even agreed!
But Hizbullshit says some land Israel captured from Syria is really Lebanese.
Ham-ass considers all of Israel "occupied territory"; a while back, they took credit for blowing up a bomb in "Occupied Tel-Aviv".

61 TheAntichrist  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:33:36am

I thought it was pasted together, but in the unedited version at the end he praises Eagle's QB Donovan McNabb and calls Cardinal's QB Kurt Warner a pig and a dog who will throw 4 INTs in an Eagles rout.

62 dentate  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:33:40am

re: #49 Kosh's Shadow

I want to hear 0sama refer to 0bama by name. Then we'll know he's alive.
We might hear it, but the tape will be like those ransom notes with words pasted from different magazines.

And a video won't prove anything; Hollywood has produced movies with dead people in them. Shouldn't be too hard to get 0sama mouthing words he's said before.

Nothing short of a live broadcast appearance accompanied by a DNA test will prove that he is still alive. Everything else can be faked.

63 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:33:44am

re: #55 MandyManners

HAMAS cut the power. To black out the city, in theory making it a harder target. HAMAS doesn't really understand the concept of night-vision equipment. Or comprehend just how good the IAF really is.

OWN
THE
NIGHT,
R

64 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:34:00am

re: #36 spirochete

Again, the goalposts have moved. Occupation now means the blockade and completely open borders.

"Occupation" means the existence of Israel. The whole shebang, from the river to the sea.

65 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:34:04am

re: #59 SurferDoc

Osama assumed room temperature a long time ago. His tapes, however, live on.

So, is the jihadi Biggie Smalls, then? Or am I thinking of Tupac?

66 tackle  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:34:23am

re: #48 MandyManners

I don't want to go on the cart!

67 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:34:42am

re: #59 SurferDoc

Osama assumed room temperature a long time ago. His tapes, however, live on.

We have so many personalities to entertain us:

Rage Boy,
Green Helmet Guy, and
Room Temperature Guy

68 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:34:43am

re: #61 TheAntichrist

In spite of your nic. ding.

69 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:35:03am

I figured out what is going on - Charles has been dropping hints.
All those "Plan 9 From Outer Space" quotes.
The aliens have resurrected Osama!
/do I need to?

70 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:35:30am

re: #63 Render

HAMAS cut the power. To black out the city, in theory making it a harder target. HAMAS doesn't really understand the concept of night-vision equipment. Or comprehend just how good the IAF really is.

OWN
THE
NIGHT,
R

At times, they remind me of little kids who believe in magical thinking.

71 Pietr  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:35:35am

re: #52 Gella

maybe he had sex change operation ;)
it's Amanda bin Laden now

Not, Yomama Bin Laidon?

72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:35:40am

re: #61 TheAntichrist

Oh. Hey newbie!

73 gregg  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:35:42am

Regarding the inauguration:

So many people are expected in the U.S. capital that President Bush declared a state of emergency.

In doing so he paves the way for unlimited funding to be released to those local authorities responsible for staging the event.

A president mostly uses the power to declare a state of emergency during a crisis, such as a hurricane or other natural disaster.

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

Unbelievable.

74 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:35:42am

re: #27 MandyManners

Poinked?

Allegedly.

75 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:35:59am

re: #58 Kenneth

Just for the record, can anybody specify the last unequivocal legitimate video from Osama bin Laden? I'm thinking something from the winter 2001/2002, just before Tora Bora. There has been nothing convincingly new from him since.

Al Qaeda may have nailed him to his perch, but Osama is dead, joined the choir invisible, shuffled off, kicked it, snuffed.

Osama is an ex-terrorist.
"No he's not, he's just resting. Pining for the sand dunes"

76 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:36:02am

re: #55 MandyManners

Who cut it? Israel? Why?

Dunno who cut it, but earlier today The Muqata reported this:

'3:28 PM The "Shayetet 13" Ultra Elite IDF Unit is operating in Gaza now according to Channel 10 Israel TV.

Jameel adds: They aren't sent for just any mission -- Only extremely special operations. Read the above link for a description of what their specialties are.'

Thats one unit of the IDF Special Forces.

77 midwestgak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:36:03am

re: #61 TheAntichrist

I thought it was pasted together, but in the unedited version at the end he praises Eagle's QB Donovan McNabb and calls Cardinal's QB Kurt Warner a pig and a dog who will throw 4 INTs in an Eagles rout.

Interesting nic. Splainy?

78 maddogg  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:36:06am

So the dead terrorist spits enough grave worms from his rotting maw to croak a threat to Israel. Go back to making the buzzards nauseous Binny, it was always your calling.

79 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:36:19am
Notice that there’s nothing in Bin Laden’s statements to prove he’s talking about the current Gaza conflict.

That will entirely ignored and used as a hammer by the MSM against Israel.

80 phoenixgirl  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:36:32am

wouldn't it be grand........in the middle of the inauguration a news alert! ubl has been captured or shot with film footage.....the worlds most wonderful inauguration usurped!

81 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:36:37am

re: #75 Kosh's Shadow

Osama is an ex-terrorist.
"No he's not, he's just resting. Pining for the sand dunes"

I wish I'd said that!

82 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:36:40am

A couple of years from now we'll have ourselves a Max Headroom version of Obama issuing threats on the internet.

83 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:36:43am

re: #66 tackle

I don't want to go on the cart!

Thursday was too late.

84 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:36:47am

100 yrs from now the Republic of Texas and it's satellite territories, NM, parts of Oklahoma, Arkansas and Kansas...along with secluded and cut off outposts along the Gulf and the upper far west will be the last remaining bastions of the Losts Realms of the West....after that who knows

85 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:37:19am

re: #64 Kenneth

"Occupation" means the existence of Israel. The whole shebang, from the river to the sea.

Yep.
I wish people would realise this!

86 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:37:24am

I think, someone has a bank of OBL audio. They sit down and form existing audio creating "new" speeches.

We've only had audio from OBL for a long time. OBL is to arrogant not to provided a proof of life video.

87 FightingBack  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:37:27am

re: #44 Render

They have generators? Fuel powered?
Sounds like a concentration camp. /

88 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:37:34am

Osama binDead?

89 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:38:00am

re: #80 phoenixgirl

wouldn't it be grand........in the middle of the inauguration a news alert! ubl has been captured or shot with film footage.....the worlds most wonderful inauguration usurped!


The day before, on Bush's watch.

90 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:38:02am

re: #84 albusteve

100 yrs from now the Republic of Texas and it's satellite territories, NM, parts of Oklahoma, Arkansas and Kansas...along with secluded and cut off outposts along the Gulf and the upper far west will be the last remaining bastions of the Losts Realms of the West....after that who knows

Predicting a flood, are we? Or a tsunami, perhaps? Think I heard about that on the Coast-to-Coast program the other night.

//

91 Land Shark  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:38:11am

Osama calling for Jihad against the Jews? So what else is new? I bet the sucker's been dead for years and this is just another Bin Laden Wannabe keeping the Osama flame alive.

92 midwestgak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:38:15am

re: #73 gregg

Regarding the inauguration:


[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

Unbelievable.

No kidding? Firewale blocks me. When did he do that?

93 So?  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:38:16am

Are they using GarageBand or Dick in a Box?

94 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:38:22am

re: #81 Kenneth

I wish I'd said that!

You will, Kenneth, you will.
/Channeling Oscar Wilde, via Monty Python

95 spirochete  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:38:24am

Sherifa Zuhur's concept in one of the links from the last thread, offers the reason we should tolerate non-democratic structures in the Middle East (circle of equity, religious minority self-governence, recognition of local, tribal and family authorities) is becasue it worked for the Ottoman's.

You know, the losers of the war.

I think the War College students are smart enough to realise these are one person's opinions. As they go forth in the world and interact with others, they will run into this kind of thinking frequently and need to be well-informed of how their enemies think...even if they come in professorial garb.

96 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:38:45am

re: #76 yma o hyd

One reason to send in Israeli special forces units like that?

Going after HVTs - Haniyeh, etc., or to flush out the terror tunnels, or both.

You don't need 'em to cut power to Gaza. Regular Israeli forces can do it; airstrikes can do it as well.

97 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:39:01am

re: #76 yma o hyd

Dunno who cut it, but earlier today The Muqata reported this:

'3:28 PM The "Shayetet 13" Ultra Elite IDF Unit is operating in Gaza now according to Channel 10 Israel TV.

Jameel adds: They aren't sent for just any mission -- Only extremely special operations. Read the above link for a description of what their specialties are.'

Thats one unit of the IDF Special Forces.

'3:28 PM The "Shayetet 13" Ultra Elite IDF Unit is operating in Gaza now according to Channel 10 Israel TV.

Oh boy.


My call is that they're going to Shifa.

Sayerat Matkal is the most elite.

98 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:39:02am

re: #67 karmic_inquisitor

We have so many personalities to entertain us:

Rage Boy,
Green Helmet Guy, and
Room Temperature Guy

the Gaza Rooster

99 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:39:12am

re: #96 lawhawk

One reason to send in Israeli special forces units like that?

Going after HVTs - Haniyeh, etc., or to flush out the terror tunnels, or both.

You don't need 'em to cut power to Gaza. Regular Israeli forces can do it; airstrikes can do it as well.

Maybe to rescue Gilad Shalit?

100 VegasRick  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:39:28am

On FOX right now, Hamas has accepted the Egyptian cease fire plan. I find that funny.

101 vapig  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:39:36am

Is bin Laden the new "Dread Pirate Roberts?"

102 spirochete  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:39:50am

re: #64 Kenneth

"Occupation" means the existence of Israel. The whole shebang, from the river to the sea.

True dat. Upding.

103 So?  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:40:09am

re: #98 reine.de.tout

the Gaza Rooster

re: #67 karmic_inquisitor

We have so many personalities to entertain us:

Rage Boy,
Green Helmet Guy, and
Room Temperature Guy

Soon SNL will be out of business.

104 Pietr  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:40:11am

re: #84 albusteve

100 yrs from now the Republic of Texas and it's satellite territories, NM, parts of Oklahoma, Arkansas and Kansas...along with secluded and cut off outposts along the Gulf and the upper far west will be the last remaining bastions of the Losts Realms of the West....after that who knows

Hopefully, our Dwarven and Elven friends will return to aid us in that time of need......

105 Digital Display  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:40:34am

re: #61 TheAntichrist

I thought it was pasted together, but in the unedited version at the end he praises Eagle's QB Donovan McNabb and calls Cardinal's QB Kurt Warner a pig and a dog who will throw 4 INTs in an Eagles rout.


ahh. newbe..the rules are you can only post a comment at #666.
Hey..I don't make the rules around here..
/

106 razorbacker  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:40:36am

re: #73 gregg

Regarding the inauguration:

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

Unbelievable.

I'll be darned. W actually seems to have done it. I guess that 'emergency' suffers from inflation just like everything else.

107 tfc3rid  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:41:31am

I think that Al Qaeda already has run out of cut and paste audio clips... However, the media is too intellectually lazy to realize that UBL is most likely dust right now...

108 Kragar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:41:39am

re: #100 VegasRick

On FOX right now, Hamas has accepted the Egyptian cease fire plan. I find that funny.

Well great. I hope that works out for them. I wonder if they'll bother letting the Israelis in on the details?

109 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:41:46am

re: #106 razorbacker

Youtube Video
110 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:41:46am

Freakin' great article:

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

Is Hamas so sold on the effectiveness of the Gaza = Holocaust propaganda - and the belief that the state of Israel was established as a result of a Zionist-authored Holocaust - that they have actively been trying to engineer the mass slaughter of their own civilian population? Do they believe that this is how they will win?

We have to begin accepting that when they say “as you love life, we love death”, they really, really, mean it.

111 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:41:55am

re: #96 lawhawk

One reason to send in Israeli special forces units like that?

Going after HVTs - Haniyeh, etc., or to flush out the terror tunnels, or both.

You don't need 'em to cut power to Gaza. Regular Israeli forces can do it; airstrikes can do it as well.

Heh.

But the Hamasthugs seem to think it'll scare the Israelis off, all that darkness!

Mind - I think other IDF Special Forces have been in Gaza already, without publicity, doing their stealthy work ...

112 DeafDog  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:42:01am

re: #61 TheAntichrist

I thought it was pasted together, but in the unedited version at the end he praises Eagle's QB Donovan McNabb and calls Cardinal's QB Kurt Warner a pig and a dog who will throw 4 INTs in an Eagles rout.

Dang, he knows his football

113 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:42:14am

The Egyptian plan?

Running our chariots under the sea? THAT was your plan?

114 irongrampa  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:42:28am

re: #106 razorbacker

Prescient, or apropos?

115 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:42:30am

re: #104 Pietr

Hopefully, our Dwarven and Elven friends will return to aid us in that time of need......

I was just waxing poetic...

116 tackle  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:42:34am

re: #57 Pietr

I didn't see anything on the transcript, but I could be wrong. Although I agree Osama isn't relevant, it's too bad he the terrorists feel the need to taunt Bush from the dead.

117 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:42:58am

re: #101 vapig

Is bin Laden the new "Dread Pirate Roberts?"

Or Hassan Saba?

118 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:43:13am

re: #94 Kosh's Shadow

You asked for it:

The Classic Dead Terrorist Sketch

119 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:43:23am

'Super-Predator' Humans Force Evolution in Animals

Acting as super-predators, humans are forcing changes to body size and reproductive abilities in some species 300 percent faster than would occur naturally, a new study finds.

Stop Global Warming!
Stop Plate Tectonics!
Stop Evolution!

120 TheAntichrist  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:43:26am

re: #77 midwestgak

Interesting nic. Splainy?


My preferred nic was taken, so I picked that one because Christian fundies (hell, fundies of all stripes) annoy the hell out of me and have destroyed the GOP.

IMHO, of course. Not looking for a flame war.

121 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:43:57am

re: #1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why won't he just die already. Who is this guy? Elvis?

Or Tupac?

122 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:44:01am

re: #97 Ben Hur

Sayerat Matkal is primarily a recon element, assigned piecemeal to various brigades.

Shayetet 13 is an independent unit with its own command structure.

AS
I
UNDERSTAND,
R

123 Opinionated  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:44:04am

When the US abstains in a UN vote, when the media gathers sympathy for Hamas, when Jimmy Carter embraces Hamas, when Pat Buchanan castigateS Israel, when the EU and the Vatican want Hamas to survive by halting Israel, they- and all the rest of similar mind- ARE STANDING WITH BIN LADIN.

124 VegasRick  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:44:17am

re: #108 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Well great. I hope that works out for them. I wonder if they'll bother letting the Israelis in on the details?

Those folks really are assholes. If they were not so dangerous they would make great comedy teams. Idiots.

125 tackle  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:44:18am

re: #101 vapig

I have wondered if Bin Laden's "voice" has been another's for the better part of his life.

126 Kragar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:44:36am

For anyone who lives on the border, this isn't exactly news:

U.S. military report warns 'sudden collapse' of Mexico is possible

EL PASO - Mexico is one of two countries that "bear consideration for a rapid and sudden collapse," according to a report by the U.S. Joint Forces Command on worldwide security threats.

The command's "Joint Operating Environment (JOE 2008)" report, which contains projections of global threats and potential next wars, puts Pakistan on the same level as Mexico. "In terms of worse-case scenarios for the Joint Force and indeed the world, two large and important states bear consideration for a rapid and sudden collapse: Pakistan and Mexico.

127 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:44:40am

re: #121 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Or Tupac?

re: #65 Guanxi88

So, is the jihadi Biggie Smalls, then? Or am I thinking of Tupac?

Great minds...

128 razorbacker  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:44:44am

re: #84 albusteve

Long ago, when still in grade school, we were taught the the state of Arkansas had all the raw materials necessary to survive even if cut off from the rest of the world.

While that wasn't the intention then, now it's looking more and more like a plan.

129 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:44:44am

re: #119 Ben Hur

'Super-Predator' Humans Force Evolution in Animals



Sounds like a real fucking problem...

130 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:45:09am

re: #126 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

For anyone who lives on the border, this isn't exactly news:

U.S. military report warns 'sudden collapse' of Mexico is possible

So, if the wheels fell off in Mexico, how could you tell?

131 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:45:15am

re: #119 Ben Hur

'Super-Predator' Humans Force Evolution in Animals

Stop Global Warming!
Stop Plate Tectonics!
Stop Evolution!

Re-Unite Pangea!

132 maddogg  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:45:17am

We will truly know if Bin Laden is feeding the flies when Obammy takes office. If he is alive, he will leave his dreary cave and his beloved goats and once again appear in daylight screaming blood and hate across the landscape. He will be assisted by al Jizz and most every Muslim country. He will receive a hero's welcome in Islamisbad. Wait and see...

133 TheAntichrist  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:45:20am

re: #85 yma o hyd

Yep.
I wish people would realise this!

Particularly the useful idiots at the "peace demonstrations" which are in reality Hamas pep rallies when the chant "Free Palestine" or "End the Occupation".

134 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:45:24am

Your typical episode of Ghost Hunters has more believable recordings from beyond than this.

135 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:45:37am

re: #119 Ben Hur

You missed,

STOP PROTON DECAY!

136 vapig  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:45:49am

re: #117 Guanxi88

Or Hassan Saba?

I'm afraid I'm not familiar with this name. Do you have some background?

137 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:45:55am

re: #123 Opinionated

When the US abstains in a UN vote, when the media gathers sympathy for Hamas, when Jimmy Carter embraces Hamas, when Pat Buchanan castigateS Israel, when the EU and the Vatican want Hamas to survive by halting Israel, they- and all the rest of similar mind- ARE STANDING WITH BIN LADIN.

that's cool...no big deal bro...chill out
who's on American Idol tonight?

138 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:46:18am

re: #127 Guanxi88

Great minds...

Or just don't bother to read the rest of the thread...

139 spirochete  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:46:21am

re: #128 razorbacker

Long ago, when still in grade school, we were taught the the state of Arkansas had all the raw materials necessary to survive even if cut off from the rest of the world.

While that wasn't the intention then, now it's looking more and more like a plan.

I'm moving back if s**t hits the fan. Grab one of those 300 acre mountainside ranches and live out my days.

140 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:46:26am

re: #120 TheAntichrist

My preferred nic was taken, so I picked that one because Christian fundies (hell, fundies of all stripes) annoy the hell out of me and have destroyed the GOP.

IMHO, of course. Not looking for a flame war.

Be careful what you invoke.

141 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:46:29am

re: #97 Ben Hur

According to ynet, Hamas has agreed to the Egyptian cease fire proposal:
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Looks to me as if the IDF want to make doubly sure that the big hamassholes are rendered hors de combat - for ever.

I think Matkal has been in there for a bit anyway - and this announcement is part of the psyop by the IDF.

Knowing these units are after you, as hamashole?

Time to change the knickers ...

142 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:46:46am

re: #123 Opinionated

When the US abstains in a UN vote, when the media gathers sympathy for Hamas, when Jimmy Carter embraces Hamas, when Pat Buchanan castigateS Israel, when the EU and the Vatican want Hamas to survive by halting Israel, they- and all the rest of similar mind- ARE STANDING WITH BIN LADIN.

And it is said the Mashiach will come when all the nations of the world are heretical.
So where is he? Coming Jan 21?

143 Pietr  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:47:23am

re: #116 tackle

I didn't see anything on the transcript, but I could be wrong. Although I agree Osama isn't relevant, it's too bad he the terrorists feel the need to taunt Bush from the dead.

Maybe I'm confusing it with the GWB interview on "Hannity", Monday and Tuesday night. I know I heard GWB express regret on not getting him.....

144 midwestgak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:47:35am

re: #120 TheAntichrist

My preferred nic was taken, so I picked that one because Christian fundies (hell, fundies of all stripes) annoy the hell out of me and have destroyed the GOP.

IMHO, of course. Not looking for a flame war.

okay

145 vapig  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:47:36am

re: #119 Ben Hur

'Super-Predator' Humans Force Evolution in Animals


Stop Global Warming!
Stop Plate Tectonics!
Stop Evolution!

Well how is it our fault that they can't keep up?

146 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:47:43am

re: #120 TheAntichrist

My preferred nic was taken, so I picked that one because Christian fundies (hell, fundies of all stripes) annoy the hell out of me and have destroyed the GOP.

IMHO, of course. Not looking for a flame war.


Well, aren't you special.

147 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:47:47am

re: #128 razorbacker

Long ago, when still in grade school, we were taught the the state of Arkansas had all the raw materials necessary to survive even if cut off from the rest of the world.

While that wasn't the intention then, now it's looking more and more like a plan.

The Clintons? Heh.

148 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:47:50am

This Bin Laden fellah sounds rather peevish. Pushing up poppies has a way of making anyone cranky, I reckon.

149 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:47:51am

re: #122 Render

Sayerat Matkal is primarily a recon element, assigned piecemeal to various brigades.

Shayetet 13 is an independent unit with its own command structure.

AS
I
UNDERSTAND,
R


Shayetet is like the US Navy Seals.

Sayeret Matkal is a special forces group that belongs to Israel's equivalent to the Joint Chiefs.

150 spirochete  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:47:57am

re: #141 yma o hyd

According to ynet, Hamas has agreed to the Egyptian cease fire proposal:
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Looks to me as if the IDF want to make doubly sure that the big hamassholes are rendered hors de combat - for ever.

I think Matkal has been in there for a bit anyway - and this announcement is part of the psyop by the IDF.

Knowing these units are after you, as hamashole?

Time to change the knickers ...

I still think when Israel left Gaza, they left lots behind...

sensors.
informants.
buried devices.

151 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:47:59am
“There is only one strong way to bring the return of Al-Aqsa and Palestine, and that is jihad in the path of God,” bin Laden said in the 22-minute audiotape, referring to the revered Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem. “The duty is to urge people to jihad and to enlist the youth into jihad brigades.”

I'm confused. How can engaging in a peaceful internal struggle against sin do all this?

152 razorbacker  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:48:08am

re: #109 lawhawk

Heh. That movie contains one of the single greatest lines in all moviedom, "You f*cked up, you trusted us."

153 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:48:27am

re: #135 Kenneth

You missed,

STOP PROTON DECAY!

Brush your protons with Crest!

154 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:48:32am

re: #128 razorbacker

Long ago, when still in grade school, we were taught the the state of Arkansas had all the raw materials necessary to survive even if cut off from the rest of the world.

While that wasn't the intention then, now it's looking more and more like a plan.

there are alot of dots...they all seem to connect in a certain way and a certain direction...I love Arkansas btw...be a shame to see anything happen to it

155 tackle  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:49:08am

re: #133 TheAntichrist

I can't believe some of these "pep rallies", especially the one in London. Whatever happens in Gaza, this thing is going to come to a head. Those bobbies need to trade in their night sticks for tear gas and rubber pellets.

156 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:49:12am

re: #148 rightymouse

This Bin Laden fellah sounds rather peevish. Pushing up poppies has a way of making anyone cranky, I reckon.

And those damn worms have just got to be annoying as well...:)

157 VegasRick  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:49:23am

re: #141 yma o hyd

According to ynet, Hamas has agreed to the Egyptian cease fire proposal:
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Looks to me as if the IDF want to make doubly sure that the big hamassholes are rendered hors de combat - for ever.

I think Matkal has been in there for a bit anyway - and this announcement is part of the psyop by the IDF.

Knowing these units are after you, as hamashole?

Time to change the knickers ...

I wish the Israeli's would announce that they have agreed to VegasRick's keep firing proposal.

158 RaiderDan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:49:37am

Damn #121 BDVM, you beat me to it.

Osama Bin Laden is the Tupac Shakur of Terrorism.

He's releasing albums a decade after he's dead.

159 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:49:41am

re: #142 Kosh's Shadow

And it is said the Mashiach will come when all the nations of the world are heretical.
So where is he? Coming Jan 21?

What is the Mashiach?

160 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:49:48am

re: #126 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

For anyone who lives on the border, this isn't exactly news:

U.S. military report warns 'sudden collapse' of Mexico is possible

this ugly beast is gonna take a major chunk out of our asses one day...of course nobody will see it coming....

161 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:49:59am

re: #148 rightymouse

This Bin Laden fellah sounds rather peevish. Pushing up poppies has a way of making anyone cranky, I reckon.

One day you're smoking them, the next day they're smoking you. Harsh.

162 Kragar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:50:15am

re: #141 yma o hyd

Hamas has agreed to a ceasefire in Gaza based on Egypt's proposal, Arab sources told Ynet Wednesday. The conditions for the truce have not been published at this time.

In other words, the Israelis had no input into the matter and would be fools to accept it.

163 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:50:26am

re: #152 razorbacker

Heh. That movie contains one of the single greatest lines in all moviedom, "You f*cked up, you trusted us."

The working title of Obama's White House Memoirs...

164 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:50:28am

re: #161 Peacekeeper

One day you're smoking them, the next day they're smoking you. Harsh.

The cycle of life.

165 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:50:31am

re: #159 jwb7605

What is the Mashiach?

"Messiah" in Hebrew.

166 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:50:32am

Some more kittehs ahve followed the call of the basement cat, on the roostercam.

Well, thats what it looks like to me!

167 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:50:33am

re: #159 jwb7605

What is the Mashiach?

Hebrew for Messiah. Sorry.

168 vapig  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:50:36am

re: #120 TheAntichrist

My preferred nic was taken, so I picked that one because Christian fundies (hell, fundies of all stripes) annoy the hell out of me and have destroyed the GOP.

IMHO, of course. Not looking for a flame war.

As a "fundie" I'm rather sick of taking hits for the demise of the GOP. Seems to me they chose to give up conservatism and ran on the DNC platform - and lost. Not my problem.

169 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:50:46am

re: #136 vapig

I'm afraid I'm not familiar with this name. Do you have some background?

Burroughs loved the guy, made a hero out of him in some of his works. Founder of a heretical Ismaili group, known today as the assassins.

One of the myths about him was that he was immortal, and this was "explained" by the title being transmitted, like with the Dread Pirate Scott.

170 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:50:57am

re: #111 yma o hyd

Hamas thugs have been sending taunting text messages to ISraeli soldiers; warning them of what will happen to them in Gaza.

Maybe Hamas hasn't been paying attention in Gaza, but the IDF is already there and taking names.

171 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:50:58am

re: #159 jwb7605

What is the Mashiach?


When is the Mashiach?

172 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:50:59am

re: #150 spirochete

I still think when Israel left Gaza, they left lots behind...

sensors.
informants.
buried devices.

Roosters.

173 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:51:49am

re: #170 lawhawk

Hamas thugs have been sending taunting text messages to ISraeli soldiers; warning them of what will happen to them in Gaza.

Maybe Hamas hasn't been paying attention in Gaza, but the IDF is already there and taking names.

And maybe tracking cell phones?

174 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:51:50am

Image: File:IDF_Ground_Forces.png

Nevermind the source link.

GOTTA
GO,
R

175 Son of the Black Dog  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:51:56am

re: #119 Ben Hur

'Super-Predator' Humans Force Evolution in Animals

Stop Global Warming!
Stop Plate Tectonics!
Stop Evolution!

Tell that to the woolly mammoths.

176 VegasRick  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:52:25am

re: #168 vapig

As a "fundie" I'm rather sick of taking hits for the demise of the GOP. Seems to me they chose to give up conservatism and ran on the DNC platform - and lost. Not my problem.

This one won't be here long. Guaranteed. Wrong nic.

177 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:52:29am

Just in for a few, to find out what's happening in Gaza.
Webcam looks quiet.
Anyone know anything which might trigger salivations?

178 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:52:34am

re: #151 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm confused. How can engaging in a peaceful internal struggle against sin do all this?

How about a peaceful inner struggle against IDF bullets?

179 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:52:44am

re: #150 spirochete

I still think when Israel left Gaza, they left lots behind...

sensors.
informants.
buried devices.

Certainly informants - since Hamas went on a killing spree to polish all off who they thought were passing info on to the IDF, proven or not ...

180 vapig  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:52:45am

re: #155 tackle

I can't believe some of these "pep rallies", especially the one in London. Whatever happens in Gaza, this thing is going to come to a head. Those bobbies need to trade in their night sticks for tear gas and rubber pellets.

Bobbies have long since been replaced with those stupid crossing guards. Things have gone to hell in a hand basket with the demise of the bobbies!

181 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:52:57am

re: #169 Guanxi88

Even screwed up Princess Bride references get dings from me.

182 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:53:10am

re: #126 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

For anyone who lives on the border, this isn't exactly news:

U.S. military report warns 'sudden collapse' of Mexico is possible


Most excellent news!
That means we'll all be that much closer to Belize! Right?
Or is this BAD?

183 razorbacker  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:53:36am

re: #147 Peacekeeper

The Clintons? Heh.

What? You don't think that comic relief is necessary?

Besides, how generous is Arkansas to share her political capital with poor, benighted New York state? And how desperate must NY have been to grasp at the chance to be represented by Hillary?

Kinda like America jumping at the chance to bring Chicago Machine pols to D.C.

Man, I don't see what possibly could go wrong.

184 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:53:38am

re: #156 Dustyvet

And those damn worms have just got to be annoying as well...:)

Especially during the summers.

185 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:53:44am

re: #176 VegasRick

This one won't be here long. Guaranteed. Wrong nic.

Will probably last longer than BiteMeCharles...

186 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:53:51am
187 vapig  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:54:08am

re: #169 Guanxi88

Burroughs loved the guy, made a hero out of him in some of his works. Founder of a heretical Ismaili group, known today as the assassins.

One of the myths about him was that he was immortal, and this was "explained" by the title being transmitted, like with the Dread Pirate Scott.

Ah! I see! Well, I only mentioned it because bin laden seems to do a lot of talking for a dead guy.

188 VegasRick  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:54:31am

re: #185 Peacekeeper

Will probably last longer than BiteMeCharles...

LOLLOLLOL!

189 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:54:39am

re: #167 Kosh's Shadow

Hebrew for Messiah. Sorry.

I mean no offense, but if one is completely stupid (ignorant stupid), the word "AntiChrist" fits nicely into the description, also.

From everything I've seen on TV (especially the Hysterical Channel) recently, both parties appear, and it's worldwide "game on!" time.

190 phoenixgirl  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:54:41am

re: #120 TheAntichrist

My preferred nic was taken, so I picked that one because Christian fundies (hell, fundies of all stripes) annoy the hell out of me and have destroyed the GOP.

IMHO, of course. Not looking for a flame war.

of course your not......idiot

191 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:54:46am
192 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:54:50am

re: #161 Peacekeeper

One day you're smoking them, the next day they're smoking you. Harsh.

good one

193 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:55:08am

re: #161 Peacekeeper

One day you're smoking them, the next day they're smoking you. Harsh.

Very harsh.

194 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:55:26am

I love Democratic politics, especially in New York State. [says the California Republican]

195 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:55:36am

re: #177 pre-Boomer Marine brat

A bell and some guy named Pavlov.

196 VegasRick  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:55:39am

re: #185 Peacekeeper

Will probably last longer than BiteMeCharles...

No really pissing my pants laughing!

197 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:55:43am

re: #185 Peacekeeper

Will probably last longer than BiteMeCharles...

Shortest one I've ever seen was NathanBedfordForrest.

198 vapig  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:55:58am

re: #176 VegasRick

This one won't be here long. Guaranteed. Wrong nic.

It is rather provacative, no?

199 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:56:16am

re: #187 vapig

Ah! I see! Well, I only mentioned it because bin laden seems to do a lot of talking for a dead guy.

This immortality was why both Richard the Lion-Heart and Marco Polo have claims of contact with him.

200 Kragar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:56:32am

re: #160 albusteve

this ugly beast is gonna take a major chunk out of our asses one day...of course nobody will see it coming....

No politicians will have seen it coming. Its a big topic here is San Diego. Based on the amount of criminal activity, your average American would be safer walking around downtown Bagdad than walking thru TJ. Of course, we still have commercials all over the place saying come down to beautiful Baja. Suckers the poor bastard tourists down there all the time.

201 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:56:45am

re: #157 VegasRick

I wish the Israeli's would announce that they have agreed to VegasRick's keep firing proposal.

From what I can make out on the various blogs (israellycool, the Muqata, Carl in Jerusalem), the IDF chiefs are extremely annoyed with the politicians for their various cease fire speeches.
Olmert (nothing to lose0 seems the only one to hold the line.

If i were Livni or Barak, I'd be dead keen not to have Gabi Ashkenazi in a fury at me - he's Chief of Staff of the IDF, and if the Israelis get to know more about this bun fight, it'll be good-bye to their election chances.

202 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:56:52am

re: #198 vapig

Hope he'll re-name next open. Looks like he can be a decent sort (name notwithstanding).

203 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:57:10am

re: #119 Ben Hur

'Super-Predator' Humans Force Evolution in Animals

Stop Global Warming!
Stop Plate Tectonics!
Stop Evolution!

Evolution is going to proceed faster when populations are put under pressure. I hope people understand that it doesn't follow that recklessly screwing up the natural world is a desirable thing. Apart from the extinctions such activity is causing, the results of evolution in response to hunting - for example puny fishes that spawn younger - are probably not going to be much to our liking.

204 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:57:11am

the BBC coverage of Israel - with subtitles.

Via ISraelly cool.

Eretz Nehaderet is a comedy skit show.

205 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:57:34am

re: #185 Peacekeeper

Will probably last longer than BiteMeCharles...

en fuego dood

206 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:57:52am

re: #170 lawhawk

Hamas thugs have been sending taunting text messages to ISraeli soldiers; warning them of what will happen to them in Gaza.

Maybe Hamas hasn't been paying attention in Gaza, but the IDF is already there and taking names.

*69.

207 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:58:15am

re: #185 Peacekeeper

Will probably last longer than BiteMeCharles...

Was that really a nic at one point?

208 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:58:17am
209 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:58:27am

re: #162 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

In other words, the Israelis had no input into the matter and would be fools to accept it.

They would - but we all know what politicians are like.

I'm putting my faith in the IDF top brass - they are in a good position to twist Livni's and Barak's arms, right now.

210 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:58:49am

re: #200 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

No politicians will have seen it coming. Its a big topic here is San Diego. Based on the amount of criminal activity, your average American would be safer walking around downtown Bagdad than walking thru TJ. Of course, we still have commercials all over the place saying come down to beautiful Baja. Suckers the poor bastard tourists down there all the time.

Mexico is a huge wild card for the bad guys...huge

211 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:58:55am

re: #202 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hope he'll re-name next open. Looks like he can be a decent sort (name notwithstanding).

He's got his fundies in a bunch. I hate being lumped into categories by the ignorant. He can stay or go, but I have no reason to expect anything worthwhile out of someone like that.

212 midwestgak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:59:25am

re: #176 VegasRick

This one won't be here long. Guaranteed. Wrong nic.

Wonder if he spent any time lurking before registering.

213 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:59:31am

Osama bin Laden Audition Tape


Youtube Video
214 VegasRick  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:59:48am

re: #201 yma o hyd

From what I can make out on the various blogs (israellycool, the Muqata, Carl in Jerusalem), the IDF chiefs are extremely annoyed with the politicians for their various cease fire speeches.
Olmert (nothing to lose0 seems the only one to hold the line.

If i were Livni or Barak, I'd be dead keen not to have Gabi Ashkenazi in a fury at me - he's Chief of Staff of the IDF, and if the Israelis get to know more about this bun fight, it'll be good-bye to their election chances.

I think they mean it this time. Israel's people (not the nutjob types) have spoken and the leaders are reacting. Good for Israel....No, not good GREAT for Israel!

215 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:59:50am

re: #211 OldLineTexan

I'm religious, but not religious "right".

216 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:59:57am

re: #202 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hope he'll re-name next open. Looks like he can be a decent sort (name notwithstanding).

a provocative nic means little....jus sayin

217 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:00:22am

re: #208 Iron Fist

There were reports of Osama's death during the Tora Bora campaign. They claim Osama went into a cave to hide and we bombed the entrance to the cave, killing him and burying him under tons of rubble. It is hard to detemrmine whether this is the truth, but Osama hasn't been looking too alive for the last six or so years. You'd expect him to mention the election of the Warrior for the Glorious Jihad the Obamessiah to the Presidency. That wouold be a pretty good proof of life if it were part of an unspliced tape.

My bet is that Osama's pushing up daisy-cutters in Tora Bora. If he is alive he's on the run, which is better than him being free to persue his little hobby killing infidels. The way he was able to do during the Clinton Administration.

Osma looks more land more like Achmed the Dead Terrorist as time passes.

/i.e., an inanimate object with someone's hand up his backside supplying speech and motion.

218 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:00:39am

re: #182 reloadingisnotahobby

Most excellent news!
That means we'll all be that much closer to Belize! Right?
Or is this BAD?

Guess who gets to pick up the pieces? We'd have 81 states and no illegal immigration problem.
//

219 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:00:44am

re: #200 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

No politicians will have seen it coming. Its a big topic here is San Diego. Based on the amount of criminal activity, your average American would be safer walking around downtown Bagdad than walking thru TJ. Of course, we still have commercials all over the place saying come down to beautiful Baja. Suckers the poor bastard tourists down there all the time.

I know this is a sore spot for our Mexican friends, but why didn't we just seize all of California in 1848? Letting Mexico keep Baja seems like an odd place to make a new border after the war.

220 FrogMarch  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:00:48am

Mark Udall is going to hunt down Osama bin laden. Because to the extent radical Islam exists - it's confined to that one man.


/

221 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:00:58am

re: #207 MandyManners

Was that really a nic at one point?


Yes, but he spelled it G O R D O N.

222 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:01:19am

re: #209 yma o hyd

They would - but we all know what politicians are like.

I'm putting my faith in the IDF top brass - they are in a good position to twist Livni's and Barak's arms, right now.

Elections next month. Bibi's star is rising, once again.

223 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:01:35am

re: #218 jcm

Guess who gets to pick up the pieces? We'd have 81 states and no illegal immigration problem.
//

expantionism....I like it!

224 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:01:38am

re: #170 lawhawk

Hamas thugs have been sending taunting text messages to ISraeli soldiers; warning them of what will happen to them in Gaza.

Maybe Hamas hasn't been paying attention in Gaza, but the IDF is already there and taking names.

Yep - I saw one example on the Muqata, earlier.

I have my suspicions of where these messages are coming from - the number at the top of the screen (scroll down for it, here) looks as if its got the UK international call sign at the front.

225 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:01:48am

re: #215 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm religious, but not religious "right".

I couldn't even tell you what that is supposed to mean anymore. It's as bad as "liberal" and "conservative" as far as utility goes.

226 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:01:50am

re: #6 MandyManners

Speaking of Gaza, what is that steady rumble I hear on the GazaCam?


Indigestion? How would you feel if you were stuffed to the gills with ham and someone started pounding on you?

227 vapig  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:02:03am

re: #202 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hope he'll re-name next open. Looks like he can be a decent sort (name notwithstanding).

This is the first I've seen him and his first comment is pretty much drawing a line in the sand while balancing a 2x4 on his shoulder.

228 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:02:21am

re: #143 Pietr

Maybe I'm confusing it with the GWB interview on "Hannity", Monday and Tuesday night. I know I heard GWB express regret on not getting him.....

Bush kept the news of Osama's early termination at Tora Bora a closely held secret. Osama paints a picture of al Qaeda that American's can understand. Without Osama, al Qaeda may, today, have a much different face. Not the face of the group responsible for the slaughter on 9/11. Bush, IMO, accepts fault, the blame, for another failure, not his. For the good of the nation.
/he's not even gone yet and beginning to love him again.

229 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:02:42am

re: #220 FrogMarch

Mark Udall is going to hunt down Osama bin laden. Because to the extent radical Islam exists - it's confined to that one man.

/

Remove the sarc tag. You're right, and the "Department of Peace" is one step closer to reality.

I loved the bus commercial on TV. Is that still around somewhere?

230 vapig  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:02:44am

re: #211 OldLineTexan

He's got his fundies in a bunch. I hate being lumped into categories by the ignorant. He can stay or go, but I have no reason to expect anything worthwhile out of someone like that.

Upding!

231 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:02:58am

re: #219 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I know this is a sore spot for our Mexican friends, but why didn't we just seize all of California in 1848? Letting Mexico keep Baja seems like an odd place to make a new border after the war.

because that's where the Co river ends....realestate was worthless south of that

232 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:03:35am

re: #213 Dustyvet

Osama bin Laden Audition Tape



Two thumbs up.

233 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:03:43am

re: #218 jcm

We could give them part of Calif ...only if the they take San.Fran in the deal!
//
OOPs!
Sorry ..they already have most of Calif!

234 Ojoe  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:04:09am

Eat my toasted shorts in hell, Bin Laden.

235 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:04:11am

My guess is that Osama died of an infection somewhere in "Pakistan's lawless western territories". Probably due to lack of wiping.

236 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:04:19am

re: #207 MandyManners

Well a search back to Jan 2007 didn't bring it up. But then again, Charles could have flushed it down the memory hole.

237 Mike in Georgia  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:04:21am

Bin Laden is dead and currently working in the US under the
alias Achmed.

238 SurferDoc  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:04:23am

re: #65 Guanxi88

So, is the jihadi Biggie Smalls, then? Or am I thinking of Tupac?

Jim Reeves

239 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:04:29am

re: #213 Dustyvet

Osama bin Laden Audition Tape

[Video]

We got a hot one tonight, dawg!

240 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:04:50am

'Prisoner' actor Patrick McGoohan dies in LA

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Patrick McGoohan, an Emmy-winning actor who created and starred in the cult classic television show "The Prisoner," has died. He was 80.


Patrick McGoohan

Patrick Joseph McGoohan (born March 19, 1928, died January 13, 2009[1]) was a two-time Emmy winning American born actor, raised in Ireland and England, with an extensive stage career, who rose to fame in the British film and TV industry by starring in the 1960s television series Danger Man (renamed Secret Agent when exported to the US), cult classic The Prisoner and Mel Gibson's Oscar winning epic Braveheart as Edward Longshanks.
241 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:04:50am

re: #232 MandyManners

Two thumbs up.

TA...Mandy...:)

242 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:05:09am

re: #237 Mike in Georgia

Bin Laden is dead and currently working in the US under the
alias Achmed.

ROFL, see 217.

Your solution ends the lawsuits!

243 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:05:09am

re: #221 Peacekeeper

Yes, but he spelled it G O R D O N.

ROFLMAO!

244 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:05:38am

re: #240 jcm

'Prisoner' actor Patrick McGoohan dies in LA

Will his grave be marked by a stone with just the number 6 on it?

245 jcm  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:05:46am

re: #233 reloadingisnotahobby

We could give them part of Calif ...only if the they take San.Fran in the deal!
//
OOPs!
Sorry ..they already have most of Calif!

They could have Portland and Seattle as territories!

246 Pietr  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:05:47am

Gun fight in Gaza............

247 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:06:28am

re: #246 Pietr

Gun fight in Gaza............

...is like salt in the ocean.

248 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:06:29am
249 jcbunga  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:06:40am

Hey dead guy--

I'm sorry you and your minions have inadequacy issues towards women, but nobody ever impressed the ladies by blowing themselves up.

My advice is to get a shave and a bath, buy a suit, get a job and join Match.com. As for the 7th Century thing, try a few Renaissance Festivals instead of this gig you have going now. It's more fun, no caves involved, and you can hit on the wenches.

F*ing losers. All of you.

250 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:06:41am

Video from yesterday up on the GazaCam?

251 SurferDoc  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:06:43am

re: #240 jcm

'Prisoner' actor Patrick McGoohan dies in LA

"Be seeing you."

252 razorbacker  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:06:49am

Gotta go, folks. Stuff has been piling up for a couple of days, and chores await.

Fox is reporting that Hamas has accepted an 'unconditional ceasefire', but I'd advise looking both ways before crossing the information highway.

253 vapig  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:06:49am

re: #237 Mike in Georgia

Bin Laden is dead and currently working in the US under the
alias Achmed.

Achmed?

254 maddogg  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:07:15am

re: #235 Peacekeeper

My guess is that Osama died of an infection somewhere in "Pakistan's lawless western territories". Probably due to lack of wiping.

How could it be lack of wiping? He still had his left hand the last I saw.

255 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:07:45am

re: #244 Kosh's Shadow

Will his grave be marked by a stone with just the number 6 on it?

He's a free man now. RIP.

256 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:07:52am

re: #254 maddogg

How could it be lack of wiping? He still had his left hand the last I saw.

You have to wipe the left hand afterwards, or the whole thing goes south.
/

257 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:07:53am

re: #246 Pietr

Gun fight in Gaza............

WTF? This must be old footage. It's night there.

258 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:08:16am

re: #20 lawhawk

It is curious though; bin Laden talks of a Gaza occupation. Doesn't he know that Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and only is back in Gaza because Hamas invited Israel in courtesy of thousands of kassam rockets?

Even after Israel "disengaged" in 2005, the "okk-yoo-pay-shun" pimps came up with more excuses, just like the "racism" pimps have to scramble since the 0ne was elected.

259 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:08:21am

The only thing significant about this newly released audio is bin Laden begging for money. The only thing separating him from a PBS pledge drive is the various level give-aways.

260 spirochete  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:08:26am

Still reading Zuhur's text.

Now she states that most Americans, even those with open minds, have trouble realising that Saudi Arabia is making progress against Islamists.

(pg 12)

[Link: books.google.com...]

261 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:08:32am

re: #251 SurferDoc

"Be seeing you."

“I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered! My life is my own.”

262 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:08:35am

re: #222 Golem Akbar

Elections next month. Bibi's star is rising, once again.

Looks like it, doesn't it.
He's certainly been very quiet in the last week - after a staunch public support for the IDF.

263 Kragar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:08:36am

Something just got hit on Gazacam

264 looking closely  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:08:40am

re: #17 VegasRick

I'd prefer to know he's dead.

The fact that you haven't seen credible footage of him in several years pretty much means he's dead.

I'm not otherwise sure how you could "know" such a thing, short of personally examining the remains and prior medical records.

265 Pietr  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:08:47am

re: #250 Bubblehead II

Video from yesterday up on the GazaCam?

Has to be-it's dark there now-and this is a daylight gun battle.....

266 vagabond trader  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:08:53am

Ya hear that Jew hating "Progressives?" Your master's voice has spoken.

267 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:09:49am

re: #240 jcm

'Prisoner' actor Patrick McGoohan dies in LA


Loved him in 'Silver Streak'.

268 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:09:54am

re: #265 Pietr

Has to be-it's dark there now-and this is a daylight gun battle.....

They like reruns of getting their asses kicked? I'm down with that.

269 SurferDoc  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:09:57am

If Bin Laden was still alive, he'd have been on "The View" by now.

270 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:10:13am

"...It's JIHAD for GAZA and ISRAEL...

...HUDNA for EGYPT and FRANCE..."

O. binLaden - 2009

271 Ojoe  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:10:15am

re: #264 looking closely

In the mountains of high Tora Bora
Osama he sat on the floor-a
'Till suddenly he found,
With the bombs raining down,
That he didn't exist
Any mor-a.

272 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:10:15am

re: #244 Kosh's Shadow

Will his grave be marked by a stone with just the number 6 on it?

Dusty the Dim...never knew this was him...doh!


Image: patrickmcgoohan.gif

273 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:11:06am
274 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:11:08am

re: #259 FurryOldGuyJeans

The only thing significant about this newly released audio is bin Laden begging for money. The only thing separating him from a PBS pledge drive is the various level give-aways.

He could always say "Sponsor a bomber and get 36 virgins in Paradise!"

275 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:11:20am

re: #269 SurferDoc

If Bin Laden was still alive, he'd have been on "The View" by now.

I don't doubt it. Sarah Palin, no way. But Benny Laden, why he's quite a character!

276 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:11:24am

re: #195 Bubblehead II

A bell and some guy named Pavlov.

Heh,
Good one.

277 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:11:32am

re: #259 FurryOldGuyJeans

The only thing significant about this newly released audio is bin Laden begging for money. The only thing separating him from a PBS pledge drive is the various level give-aways.

And at the $250.00 level you will receive...

278 looking closely  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:11:42am

re: #240 jcm

Too bad.

McGoohan was supposedly offered the original 60s era movie James Bond slot, but declined it, citing the character's immorality.

He had a great turn as "Longshanks" Kind Edward I in that movie Braveheart.

279 spirochete  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:11:50am

re: #252 razorbacker

Gotta go, folks. Stuff has been piling up for a couple of days, and chores await.

Fox is reporting that Hamas has accepted an 'unconditional ceasefire', but I'd advise looking both ways before crossing the information highway.

Hopefully, the IDF will respect that when Hamas has unconditionally ceased firing. And not a moment sooner.

280 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:11:53am

Satirising gangsta rap : 'Fur Q'

Youtube Video

Highlight is the liberal critic "The whole controversy is preposterous. These killings are obviously ironic."

281 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:12:04am

re: #272 Dustyvet

Dusty the Dim...never knew this was him...doh!

[Link: www.signingstars.co.uk...]

now that's what a king should look like...nice pic

282 Pietr  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:12:06am

re: #257 MandyManners

WTF? This must be old footage. It's night there.

Yes-see above #265-and this appears to be hamas video? There is a little Green Icon up there to the left, seems it has an arm with a rifle held up? But, it showes some hard shooting-then white flags in the window....

283 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:12:08am

re: #265 Pietr

The feed has gone dead for me.

284 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:12:18am

re: #263 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Something just got hit on Gazacam

All I see is deepest black, without sound.

Time to reload, methinks ...

285 midwestgak  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:12:18am

Rush talking about his abscene. Farewell luncheon invite from GWB. Forgot to mention it Monday. Played a prank on us. Jason Lewis played a clip of Rush saying he would meet with Obama at any time, any place. It was a gag.

286 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:12:34am

re: #276 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Heh,
Good one.

Teacher says every time a bell rings, a demon sticks another pitchfork in Bin Laden's ass.

/It's a Wonderful Jihad

287 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:12:47am

re: #274 Kosh's Shadow

He could always say "Sponsor a bomber and get 36 virgins in Paradise!"

"And impress them with this handsome AQ tote bag."

288 Dianna  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:13:07am

Gaza-rooster-cam isn't up?

289 iitb  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:13:19am

So, they expect me to believe there hasn't been a jihad against Israel for the last 60 years? Really?

290 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:13:25am
291 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:13:37am

re: #274 Kosh's Shadow

He could always say "Sponsor a bomber and get 36 virgins in Paradise!"

Heh.

We must really be hurting them, financially as well as on the battlefield, since the whole import of the audio is they need lots more money.

All I can say is, "FUCK YEAH!" ;)

292 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:13:38am

re: #288 Dianna

Gaza-rooster-cam isn't up?

rerun of a gunfight a few seconds ago and then went blank.

293 Opinionated  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:13:45am

re: #128 razorbacker

Long ago, when still in grade school, we were taught the the state of Arkansas had all the raw materials necessary to survive even if cut off from the rest of the world.

Man can not live on moonshine alone.

294 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:13:59am

re: #284 yma o hyd

All I see is deepest black, without sound.

Time to reload, methinks ...

You can't reload...the UK says you can't have a gun...:)

Grabbing Yorkie Bar, and making a run for it...:)

295 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:14:08am

re: #290 Iron Fist

How will we be able to distinguish Osama from Obama, then? One puppet looks much the same as the other.

Aw, c'mon. Only Teddy is having that problem.

296 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:14:29am

re: #290 Iron Fist

How will we be able to distinguish Osama from Obama, then? One puppet looks much the same as the other.

BS is all that separates the two.

297 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:14:32am

re: #286 OldLineTexan

Teacher says every time a bell rings, a demon sticks another pitchfork in Bin Laden's ass.

/It's a Wonderful Jihad

I need to find a bell to ring....

298 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:14:41am

re: #250 Bubblehead II

Video from yesterday up on the GazaCam?

I don't know what that was.
Propaganda, probably.

299 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:14:48am

re: #290 Iron Fist

How will we be able to distinguish Osama from Obama, then? One puppet looks much the same as the other.

Osama is the guy that hates Israel, and Obama is......oh wait.

300 Dianna  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:15:20am

re: #292 Creeping Eruption

Thanks.

301 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:15:29am

re: #299 FurryOldGuyJeans

Osama is the guy that hates Israel, and Obama is......oh wait.

Obama only has one bag for a wife.

/that wasn't nice

302 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:15:32am

re: #173 Kosh's Shadow

And maybe tracking cell phones?

Just wondering......wouldn't cell communications be one of the first targets for an invading force?

303 vapig  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:15:37am

re: #273 Iron Fist

100%. The Republicans never really gave us any real reason to vote for them. The "we suck less" platform just doesn't bring out the loyalty that the Republicans need. They could try, I don't know, maybe actually doing some of those whacky Republican things like cutting spending, making government less intrusive and more efficient, getting rid of ear marks, hell, there's a whole host of "Republican" ideas that the Republicans have let wither on the vine.

Even the war they tried to fuck up. They listened to opinion polls that said people were dissatisfied with Iraq, but they never broke it down to defeatists on the one hand, and people like myself who felt we should be hitting them a lot harder on the other.

True - Ronald Reagan got rid of the Nixon/ Rockafeller/ Ford brand of republicanism (democrat-lite) with true conservatism. The ousted progressives have been squirreling their way back into the party ever since. Conservatism (in the party) died somewhere back in the 90's.

304 Pietr  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:15:44am

re: #283 Bubblehead II

The feed has gone dead for me.

Likewise-tho the timer on the player is still running. The link is still there, but there's no there, there......Sheesh...

305 maddogg  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:15:54am

re: #293 Opinionated

Man can not live on moonshine alone.

mebbe not, but the man with the moonshine has the currency to get most anything he needs in those situations. Besides, really good shine is really good.

306 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:16:02am
307 Broomer  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:16:17am

No Gilad Shalit - no ceasefire!

oh, and my kids loves Achmed the dead terrorist skit!

308 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:16:24am

re: #302 eschew_obfuscation

Just wondering......wouldn't cell communications be one of the first targets for an invading force?

not if the freedom fighters are stupid enough to keep using them

309 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:16:41am

re: #302 eschew_obfuscation

Just wondering......wouldn't cell communications be one of the first targets for an invading force?

Unless you had a use for it.
In Desert Storm, the military hit the telephone exchange, while the intelligence guys wanted it up to get information from it.

310 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:16:45am

re: #294 Dustyvet

You can't reload...the UK says you can't have a gun...:)

Grabbing Yorkie Bar, and making a run for it...:)

Yes I can - its a virtual reload!

:-))

Hope you like that Yorkie Bar ... its not for girls, after all ...

311 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:16:48am

re: #297 Kosh's Shadow

I need to find a bell to ring....

Here's some...:)

Youtube Video
312 Opinionated  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:16:50am

re: #290 Iron Fist

How will we be able to distinguish Osama from Obama, then? One puppet looks much the same as the other.

Osama would not have the audacity to nominate as Treasury Sec someone who didn't pay his taxes.

313 looking closely  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:16:54am

re: #290 Iron Fist

How will we be able to distinguish Osama from Obama, then? One puppet looks much the same as the other.


Not a fair comparison.

I'm reserving judgment against Obama until he's actually DONE something as President.

No need to start off with "ODS".

314 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:16:55am

re: #304 Pietr

Likewise-tho the timer on the player is still running. The link is still there, but there's no there, there......Sheesh...

A thousand pardons, but I have tripped on the blessed cable while chasing this honco rooster, dumplings be upon him.

315 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:16:58am
316 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:17:10am

re: #301 OldLineTexan

Obama only has one bag for a wife.

/that wasn't nice

And Bin laden puts bags on his wives...

317 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:17:11am

re: #309 Kosh's Shadow

Unless you had a use for it.
In Desert Storm, the military hit the telephone exchange, while the intelligence guys wanted it up to get information from it.

You can also track a phone and send its user to meet Allah.

318 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:17:20am

re: #290 Iron Fist

How will we be able to distinguish Osama from Obama, then? One puppet looks much the same as the other.

And they both advocate community organizing!

319 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:17:35am

re: #307 Broomer

No Gilad Shalit - no ceasefire!

oh, and my kids loves Achmed the dead terrorist skit!

I turned on my family to Achmed- they love him.

320 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:18:18am

re: #301 OldLineTexan

Obama only has one bag for a wife.

/that wasn't nice

Every time I see a picture of WAB I think I would need 3 bags, minimum, to even consider doing marital duties with such a one. *BARF*

321 Pietr  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:18:23am

re: #302 eschew_obfuscation

Just wondering......wouldn't cell communications be one of the first targets for an invading force?

Not if the invading force is using those calls for 1). info gathering, and 2). triangulation to find both parties.....think on that.....

322 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:18:35am

re: #310 yma o hyd

Yes I can - its a virtual reload!

:-))

Hope you like that Yorkie Bar ... its not for girls, after all ...

How you fixed for Jelly Babies?...:)

323 vapig  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:18:51am

re: #307 Broomer

No Gilad Shalit - no ceasefire!

oh, and my kids loves Achmed the dead terrorist skit!

So do I - and I use every lame excuse chance I can get to link him!

324 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:18:56am

re: #302 eschew_obfuscation

Just wondering......wouldn't cell communications be one of the first targets for an invading force?

I had to blow some time in The Kid's school's city this morning so I bought today's NYT. In it was an article describing meetings between three terrorists and two reporters. One terrorist removed the battery and the SIM card from his cellphone and described how another terrorist got whacked because he didn't do the same.

325 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:19:44am

re: #324 MandyManners

I had to blow some time in The Kid's school's city this morning so I bought today's NYT. In it was an article describing meetings between three terrorists and two reporters. One terrorist removed the battery and the SIM card from his cellphone and described how another terrorist got whacked because he didn't do the same.

Lemme guess. The Times came down on the side of the guy who did the whacking?

326 Kragar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:20:01am

re: #304 Pietr

Likewise-tho the timer on the player is still running. The link is still there, but there's no there, there......Sheesh...

POLISHPRONPOLISHPRONPOLISHPRONPOLISHPRONPOLISHPRON

OHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASE

327 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:20:05am

re: #324 MandyManners

I had to blow some time in The Kid's school's city this morning so I bought today's NYT. In it was an article describing meetings between three terrorists and two reporters. One terrorist removed the battery and the SIM card from his cellphone and described how another terrorist got whacked because he didn't do the same.

Just like the Slimes. Giving helpful advice to the enemy.
Traitors.

328 vapig  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:20:05am

re: #324 MandyManners

I had to blow some time in The Kid's school's city this morning so I bought today's NYT. In it was an article describing meetings between three terrorists and two reporters. One terrorist removed the battery and the SIM card from his cellphone and described how another terrorist got whacked because he didn't do the same.

Neat trick!

329 spirochete  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:20:39am

Reading the Zuhur. The historical accounts of the development of Islam seem accurate. With a preexisting fund of knowledge and a good BS-meter, I am actually enjoying reading this.

330 looking closely  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:20:45am

re: #306 Iron Fist

One blown apart, badly dressed terrorist looks much the same as any other blown apart, badly dressed terrorist. I guess if you could scrape up enough of him you could do DNA testing...

A bit more seriously, there are ways to identify the body. . .probably. . . if you had access to it.

But since you or I aren't going to get access to the tissue or conduct our own tests, ultimately, you're going to have to take someone else's word for it that OBL is dead.

331 TheAntichrist  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:20:56am

re: #168 vapig

As a "fundie" I'm rather sick of taking hits for the demise of the GOP. Seems to me they chose to give up conservatism and ran on the DNC platform - and lost. Not my problem.


Seems to me if the GOP worried about fiscal responsibility and government waste and corruption instead of worrying about gay marriage and trying to teach the book of Genesis in science classes (among other things) they wouldn't be in the position they are now.

Some decisions are best left to the individual, not the State. It's about Liberty. Didn't someone once say “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s”? People who want to inject religion into politics should keep that in mind. Besides, it looks bad when you spend your life saying one thing and then you get caught in an airport bathroom in a "wide stance".

/derail

332 Son of the Black Dog  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:20:58am

re: #302 eschew_obfuscation

Just wondering......wouldn't cell communications be one of the first targets for an invading force?

Not if they're providing you with a steady stream of intel.

333 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:22:16am

re: #322 Dustyvet

How you fixed for Jelly Babies?...:)

Staple diet, mun, staple diet!

Have some!

334 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:22:33am
335 SlartyBartfast  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:22:39am

Couple of quick photo-hacks (or not?)...

Baghdad Bob is now OBL's PR man!

And, here's Jeff Dunham's new partner.

336 Kragar  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:22:57am

Rockets found in south Lebanon: UNIFIL

I guess when Hezballah started firing them, they thought it might be time to get off their asses and look around.

337 Irish Rose  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:22:58am

Pssst, hey Mandy... go over to the winners' thread :).
Video alert.

338 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:22:59am

Have fun, Lizards!

339 DaddyG  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:23:00am

re: #130 Guanxi88

So, if the wheels fell off in Mexico, how could you tell?

Multiple choice

Which of the following are signs of the catastrophic failure of Mexico?
A) A sudden shortage of illegal drugs in the Southwest.
B) A sudden shortage of prescription drugs among the elderly.
C) A sudden drop in wire transfers and calling card purchases in every major city in the U.S.
D) La Raza imitates Gaza.
E) All of the above

340 Pietr  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:23:02am

re: #326 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

POLISHPRONPOLISHPRONPOLISHPRONPOLISHPRONPOLISHPRON

OHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASE

Is that a Polish joke-directed at me? However, I will not retaliate....as long as achmed hears you, and puts some up....

/white smoke....

341 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:23:18am

re: #330 looking closely

Whether bin Laden is truly dead or not really is becoming as consequential a question as how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Radical Islam/Jihad is the enemy, and if one general dies or not is not going to stop the war.

342 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:23:43am
343 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:23:54am

re: #298 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Strange type of propaganda. Unless the subtitles were explaining how this was the home of a peaceful palestinian family being ruthlessly targeted for death by the evil joooosssss.

I wish I could put a sarc tag on this, but something tells me it might not be that far off the mark.

344 RaiderDan  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:24:05am

Patrick McGoohan was also the sadistic warden in "Escape From Alcatraz"

"Some men are never destined to leave Alcatraz, alive..."

RIP.

345 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:24:12am

re: #315 ploome hineni

btw I meant to say I liked this post :)
makes boo coo sense

346 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:24:32am

re: #331 TheAntichrist

Dude? What's this "you" stuff. Please don't bundle all religious people into your world view.

If you dislike religious people, I would recommend you walk away now. If you dislike atheists, I would recommend the same. The atheists and religious people tend to get along just fine here.

I am afraid, that either side will fight for the others right to believe as they see fit.

Please, knock it off.

347 spirochete  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:24:40am

re: #324 MandyManners

I had to blow some time in The Kid's school's city this morning so I bought today's NYT. In it was an article describing meetings between three terrorists and two reporters. One terrorist removed the battery and the SIM card from his cellphone and described how another terrorist got whacked because he didn't do the same.

Oh, so the NYT is meeting with terrorists? Hmm, THAT'S never happened before.

Keeping them focused on the SIM card and the battery. Good idea. There are so many other ways...

348 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:25:18am

Why do I get the feeling that Osama is going to be the Jihadi version of Elvis in Islamic yore?

/no offense by any means to 'the King'...

349 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:26:09am

re: #336 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Rockets found in south Lebanon: UNIFIL

I guess when Hezballah started firing them, they thought it might be time to get off their asses and look around.

Heh.
Might it be that they are getting just tiny bit scared, after what they've been witnessing the IDF do in Gaza for the last few weeks?

Like - 'that is not the IDF we've known ...'

350 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:26:12am
351 albusteve  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:27:44am

re: #346 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dude? What's this "you" stuff. Please don't bundle all religious people into your world view.

If you dislike religious people, I would recommend you walk away now. If you dislike atheists, I would recommend the same. The atheists and religious people tend to get along just fine here.

I am afraid, that either side will fight for the others right to believe as they see fit.

Please, knock it off.

he didnt say he disliked religious people....and I agree with every word

352 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:28:00am

re: #336 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Rockets found in south Lebanon: UNIFIL

I guess when Hezballah started firing them, they thought it might be time to get off their asses and look around.

Funny, but Israel found those rockets too. After they already landed in Kiryat Shmona. UNIFIL failed again. Thanks.

353 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:28:04am

re: #304 Pietr

Turned the camera off to get some sleep and the hamas people missed there cue to start running their stuff?

354 Render  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:28:06am

re: #149 Ben Hur

re: #174 Render

Ben, I posted that IDF orbat to show that you were correct and I was not. As I was posting I was getting the evil boss eye, so I didn't get to explain my error.

===

Yay ten more minutes of online time.

NOW
WHAT,
R

355 A.W.  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:28:25am

Okay, maybe i missed something, but why is charles convinced he is dead?

I am not saying he is wrong, i just would like to know if he knows anything i don't.

356 jamgarr  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:29:16am

re: #12 Guanxi88

Not to sound like a post-modernist, but, ultimately, what is this guy but a voice on a tape and an image on a screen? He has, as it were, deconstructed himself, or, better, his followers have distilled him into nothing.


Max Hateroom

357 DeafDog  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:31:19am

re: #342 Iron Fist

I have to agree with you. The People voted a Revolution in 1994, and we never really got what we voted for. A little bit of Welfare Reform squeaked through, but I can't think of even one other big policy issue that the Republicans really fought for. Hell, the Republicans didn't even fight the Ginsburg appointment to the Supreme Court. That happy horseshit needs to stop NOW.

The first test is Eric Holder. He's an inexperienced party hack whose main claim to fame is that he help procure the slimiest Pardon in American history, and kidnapping a little boy and deporting him to Cuba. Those >are credentials for something I guess, but not for a prospective Attorney General.

I agreed with you on post 273, but I think you are over-stating the issue here.

The Gingich years were good and everything that Clinton likes to claim credit for now is basically a result of Newt's ideas (Expanded free trade, lower cap gain taxes, balanced budget, welfare reform, etc.)

When Newt got the boot in 1998 is when the Republican Congress went rudderless. GWB never tried to reign them in either. Shame on GWB for that.

I will also note that, sincy the Nancy/harry show came to town in 2006, is when the Economy really started to tank.

358 jamgarr  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:33:29am

re: #336 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Rockets found in south Lebanon: UNIFIL

I guess when Hezballah started firing them, they thought it might be time to get off their asses and look around.


United
Nations
Inept
Force
In
Lebanon

359 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:37:12am

re: #331 TheAntichrist

This guy's gonna be trouble, isn't he?

360 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:38:31am

re: #314 OldLineTexan

A thousand pardons, but I have tripped on the blessed cable while chasing this honco rooster, dumplings be upon him.

.... and all this time I thought it was geese that went Honco

Now roosters are horning in on their gig?

361 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:42:44am

re: #306 Iron Fist

One blown apart, badly dressed terrorist looks much the same as any other blown apart, badly dressed terrorist. I guess if you could scrape up enough of him you could do DNA testing...

Yes, and one town's very like another when your head's down over your pieces, brother:

Youtube Video
362 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:43:37am

re: #329 spirochete

Reading the Zuhur. The historical accounts of the development of Islam seem accurate. With a preexisting fund of knowledge and a good BS-meter, I am actually enjoying reading this.

You got my ears up. What's that?

363 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:43:51am

re: #358 jamgarr

United
Nations
Inept
Force
In
Lebanon

I wouldn't have been as nice for the word for F

364 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:44:41am

re: #355 A.W.

For one thing, there has not been a positively unequivocally new video of Osama since early 2002. Everything since has been voice-over still photos, or re-edited old videos. Nothing new. If he really was alive, they would have made something new right? Ergo, he's dead.

365 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:45:49am
366 wiffersnapper  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:46:46am

I'm waiting for the Al-Q tape that comes out and accidentally has a Chef .mp3 spliced into it. "Death to all... The Children!" "Make all out jihad... to your asshole."

367 debutaunt  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:54:41am

re: #148 rightymouse

This Bin Laden fellah sounds rather peevish. Pushing up poppies has a way of making anyone cranky, I reckon.

All of his words are so darn familiar.

368 TheAntichrist  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 9:57:55am

re: #346 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dude? What's this "you" stuff. Please don't bundle all religious people into your world view.

If you dislike religious people, I would recommend you walk away now. If you dislike atheists, I would recommend the same. The atheists and religious people tend to get along just fine here.

I am afraid, that either side will fight for the others right to believe as they see fit.

Please, knock it off.


I have no problems with religious people, only the ones who want to use the power of government to advance their religion or their religious beliefs.

But if you think that government should be an advocate for religion Osama bin Laden et al agree with you 100%.

It's the expectation that government should be another arm of religion that has helped fuel the rise of Islamist groups and the terrorism that accompanied it. Until 500 years ago or so much of Christendom was the same way, it was called the Dark Age.

By all means practice your religion however you see fit, but please don't try to mix it with government. That hasn't ever worked out well. I don't want to see the Rev. Jeremiah Wright with the power of government behind him any more than I do Sheikh Nasrallah.

369 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 10:01:25am
370 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 10:05:48am
371 TheAntichrist  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 10:08:28am

re: #364 Kenneth

For one thing, there has not been a positively unequivocally new video of Osama since early 2002. Everything since has been voice-over still photos, or re-edited old videos. Nothing new. If he really was alive, they would have made something new right? Ergo, he's dead.

I hope you're right. I guess it comes down to whether or not his supporters think denying us the satisfaction of knowing he's dead outweighs their desire to hail him as a martyr. He could also still be alive, but in such bad shape he can barely function.

372 HippieforLife  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 10:50:24am

re: #315 ploome hineni

A dream without a goal is just a wish.

373 coloradobuff  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 11:13:01am

Charles:

I disagree with you on a few things, but "dead man hating" hits the nail on the head. Bin Laden's bin pushing up poppies for a while now. It's kind of fun to see the jihadis continue the charade, though.

374 Mich-again  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:33:19pm
...the Crusader-Zionist alliance,” bin Laden said.

He forgot to include the honcos.

375 stuiec  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 3:14:16pm

But if the message wasn't really recorded this week... then how did Bin Laden know that Bush would be leaving office?

Ha! Riddle me THAT, Batman!

/leftard mode

376 zulubaby  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 10:01:20pm

Love the title of this thread -- hysterical.

377 mattman  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:06:41am

Here's what I don't get. ABC et al are reporting on the audible wheezing on the tape, questioning OBL's health (awwww), but suggesting this eliminates any doubt that he is alive. I was under the impression, as were others in this thread, that none of his comments was sufficiently specific to demonstrate that these taped comments aren't years old. And I can't find a transcript anywhere. Has anyone else found one?


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