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A lot o’ people don’t realize what’s really going on. They view life as a bunch o’ unconnected incidents ‘n things. They don’t realize that there’s this, like, lattice o’ coincidence that lays on top o’ everything. Give you an example, show you what I mean: suppose you’re thinkin’ about a plate o’ shrimp. Suddenly someone’ll say, like, “plate,” or “shrimp,” or “plate o’ shrimp” out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin’ for one, either. It’s all part of a cosmic unconsciousness.

— Repo Man

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1 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:10:39pm

New thread and my signal to go to bed.

weet dreams honcos!

2 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:14:21pm

That is sooo weird! I was just thinking about unconsciousness.

3 Rob with a mind  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:14:28pm

Obamanation is abominable! Our Kids have been let down by our generation and we saw it coming. Shame on the selfish generation!

4 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:14:35pm

And there's my brother, whimpering under the day bed.

5 Dustyvet  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:15:47pm

Life, when you're a Male kid, is what Grownups are doing. The Adult world seems to be some kind of secret society that has its own password, hand claps and countersigns. The thing is to get In.

6 Killer Tomato  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:16:05pm

I’m upstairs at the computer and I realize I’m hearing voices (and I live alone). So I listen and they seem to be coming from downstairs. I walk to the top of the staircase and there are definitely people talking in my living room.

Turned out that when I came upstairs a couple hours ago, I’d forgotten to turn the TV off.

Definitely my cue to turn in.

Night all!

7 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:16:58pm

Shrimp o' plate.

8 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:18:52pm

Hi and bye, lizards. I've had a little too much fun tonight. Robin Williams? I hope he's going to be okay. He's a lib but one of the best comedians ever.

Take care, all.

9 HelloDare  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:19:38pm

re: #6 Killer Tomato

I’m upstairs at the computer and I realize I’m hearing voices (and I live alone). So I listen and they seem to be coming from downstairs. I walk to the top of the staircase and there are definitely people talking in my living room.

Turned out that when I came upstairs a couple hours ago, I’d forgotten to turn the TV off.

Definitely my cue to turn in.

Night all!

Was an old Mickey Rooney film playing? He's a shrimp. It’s all part of a cosmic unconsciousness.

10 Cognito  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:20:32pm

I'll repost this here so people can enjoy it. I really love it -- such a fantastic talent. To me, at least.

11 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:22:53pm

Get well soon, Robin

Youtube Video
12 redc1c4  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:30:55pm

you have to have a code.

red,
A repo man spends his life getting into tense situations. ask me......

13 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:32:33pm

re: #10 Cognito

What the heck is that thing she is jabbing with the stylus?

14 redc1c4  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:33:50pm

re: #10 Cognito

untalented jailbait..... i'll pass.

15 redc1c4  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:34:35pm

re: #13 rawmuse

What the heck is that thing she is jabbing with the stylus?

from the sound she's chosen: her eardrum......

16 Boxy_brown  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:35:00pm

Otto:

"I ain't gonna be no repo man. No way."


Marline:

...It's too late.[hands him $25] You already are.
17 Killian Bundy  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:35:00pm

re: #13 rawmuse

What the heck is that thing she is jabbing with the stylus?

/Stylophone?

18 Cognito  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:35:05pm

re: #13 rawmuse

What the heck is that thing she is jabbing with the stylus?

Apparently it's called a stylophone...

19 Athens Runaway  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:36:03pm

Here's a fun idea. Redpill Pool. Try to guess the next Obamedia head who wakes up and sees the Obamatrix for what it is, and if you get it right, you win something nice. A free LGF Cookbook, perhaps?

20 Sharmuta  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:36:04pm

Funniest Irish Drinking Song Whose Line ever did:

Youtube Video
21 Killian Bundy  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:37:49pm

re: #17 Killian Bundy

/Stylophone?

/got the finger poking a TENORI-ON too

22 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:38:40pm

re: #18 Cognito

That was intriguing, and the way she programmed the drum machine was interesting, have no idea what that was. (drum machines are people, too)

anyway, the song was not entirely without merit, it had a pretty good form.
and she's cute, so, she'll be making a million bucks soon, I think.

23 Cognito  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:38:40pm

re: #15 redc1c4

I'm realizing -- and I'll grant that I'm slow to it -- that you are an essentially unhappy person. I don't say that with any enjoyment. I wish it weren't so.

24 redc1c4  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:39:31pm

re: #19 Athens Runaway

Here's a fun idea. Redpill Pool. Try to guess the next Obamedia head who wakes up and sees the Obamatrix for what it is, and if you get it right, you win something nice. A free LGF Cookbook, perhaps?

there was a first one of these?

25 Boxy_brown  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:40:08pm

Good lord... Repo Man premiered in 1984...

I saw that in the theater... I think I am wearing the same tee shirt. Yikes.

26 Rob with a mind  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:40:41pm

Q. Why did Obama hold a seance in the White House?
A. So that he can thank everybody who voted for him.

Q. What is America's national bird be now Obama is Prez?
A. His middle finger.

President, Obama is running the country's finances just like he ran his household finances. He's got a book of blank checks

Q. Why does Obama ride in the back of a Presidential limousine?
A. The Vatican wouldn't sell him a Pope-Mobile.

Q. How will President Obama oppose Russia's invasion of Georgia?
A. He'll send troops to Atlanta.

Q. What is the difference be between President Obama and Karl Marx?
A. Nobody knows.

27 claire  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:43:35pm

re: #10 Cognito

Interesting. Had kind of a Star Wars Cantina vibe thing goin' on.

28 Cognito  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:43:49pm

re: #22 rawmuse

Better her than some teen queen who couldn't write her way out of a cereal box.

29 Cognito  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:44:23pm

(that was meant with a nodding tone of agreement, there.)

30 NY Nana  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:44:40pm

Hello, and goodnight, Lizards!

I am sleep typing...not easy to do!

ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

G'nite, and sweet dreams!

31 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:47:28pm

re: #28 Cognito

The main thing about being creative, is that you must create, every day, something new. Create it, and be not afraid that you will fail, because you will fail often. But, you throw the failures out, and keep creating. One year I wrote a new tune every day, one tune a day. Most of them were not that good, but about 30 were great, and the get played a lot by other musicians. So, you could look at it like I failed more than 300 times, or that I wrote 3o good tunes in a year.

32 redc1c4  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:49:08pm

re: #23 Cognito

I'm realizing -- and I'll grant that I'm slow to it -- that you are an essentially unhappy person. I don't say that with any enjoyment. I wish it weren't so.

you "realize" many things, but, unsurprisingly, they aren't anymore true than the rest of your unfounded beliefs.....

i listened to as much of her "talent" as i could stand, but when i started fantasizing that it was my ear drums, and not the computer screen she was punching, i killed the feed.

OTOH, i realize that you are a shallow, narrow minded and utterly unremarkable person, and frankly, i don't give a damn about you one way or the other. therefore, you can take your whiny libtard "i'm so sensitive" touchy feely crap, duct tape it to a fence pole, wrap it in concertina wire, and shove it.

that should be good for years of "authentic" experiences for you to emote on.

33 Cognito  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:49:44pm

re: #31 rawmuse

The main thing about being creative, is that you must create, every day, something new. Create it, and be not afraid that you will fail, because you will fail often. But, you throw the failures out, and keep creating. One year I wrote a new tune every day, one tune a day. Most of them were not that good, but about 30 were great, and the get played a lot by other musicians. So, you could look at it like I failed more than 300 times, or that I wrote 3o good tunes in a year.

Fully agree. I chip away at my projects daily -- if I don't it's too easy to spend time drifting away. Suddenly a year's come and gone with nothing memorable to show for it.

34 redc1c4  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:49:56pm

re: #25 Boxy_brown

Good lord... Repo Man premiered in 1984...

I saw that in the theater... I think I am wearing the same tee shirt. Yikes.

have you changed clothes since then?

35 Cognito  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:50:38pm

re: #32 redc1c4

you "realize" many things, but, unsurprisingly, they aren't anymore true than the rest of your unfounded beliefs.....

i listened to as much of her "talent" as i could stand, but when i started fantasizing that it was my ear drums, and not the computer screen she was punching, i killed the feed.

OTOH, i realize that you are a shallow, narrow minded and utterly unremarkable person, and frankly, i don't give a damn about you one way or the other. therefore, you can take your whiny libtard "i'm so sensitive" touchy feely crap, duct tape it to a fence pole, wrap it in concertina wire, and shove it.

that should be good for years of "authentic" experiences for you to emote on.

Right. I stand corrected, then.

36 iLikeCandy  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:51:01pm

Well, there's nothing on the radio right now but Alan Keyes and George Noory. Is this the place to spend my insomnia?

37 redc1c4  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:51:51pm

re: #31 rawmuse

The main thing about being creative, is that you must create, every day, something new. Create it, and be not afraid that you will fail, because you will fail often. But, you throw the failures out, and keep creating. One year I wrote a new tune every day, one tune a day. Most of them were not that good, but about 30 were great, and the get played a lot by other musicians. So, you could look at it like I failed more than 300 times, or that I wrote 3o good tunes in a year.

"Kill something every day, regardless of what it is, to maintain tactical proficiency."

38 Killian Bundy  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:52:25pm

Damn, there's some strange internet fascination with the Port Royal grounding.

/it was all over a month ago and I'm still getting hits every day searching and looking for those posts

39 redc1c4  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:53:21pm

re: #36 iLikeCandy

Well, there's nothing on the radio right now but Alan Keyes and George Noory. Is this the place to spend my insomnia?

it depends: how well do you like bad music?

40 redc1c4  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:56:21pm

re: #38 Killian Bundy

Damn, there's some strange internet fascination with the Port Royal grounding.

/it was all over a month ago and I'm still getting hits every day searching and looking for those posts

two sentences that clash:
"The 15-year-old Port Royal usually has about 24 officers and 340 enlisted sailors on board."
and
"The Pearl Harbor-based Port Royal, one of the Navy's most advanced ships,...."

one of these things is not like the other.

41 pink freud  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:57:26pm

Tracking Hillary.

State Department nifty interactive tracking map

/brings to mind NORAD tracking Santa

42 Killian Bundy  Wed, Mar 4, 2009 11:59:43pm

re: #40 redc1c4

two sentences that clash:
"The 15-year-old Port Royal usually has about 24 officers and 340 enlisted sailors on board."
and
"The Pearl Harbor-based Port Royal, one of the Navy's most advanced ships,...."

one of these things is not like the other.

It is/was upgraded and part of our Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense

/in fact, it was the first day out of drydock when it grounded

43 gmsc  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:00:01am

Today in History, March 5th:

Youtube Video
44 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:00:15am

re: #41 pink freud

Tracking Hillary.

State Department nifty interactive tracking map

/brings to mind NORAD tracking Santa

except most everyone wants Santa to visit........ and he's a jolly fat man, not a pinched faced harridan looking to sell your national interests out from under you.

45 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:00:47am

re: #10 Cognito

I'll repost this here so people can enjoy it. I really love it -- such a fantastic talent. To me, at least.

Morning/Evening Lizards.

Cog I see not talent there. Unless knowing how to use a computer and play a few note on a piano is what you call talent.

46 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:01:56am

re: #42 Killian Bundy

It is/was upgraded and part of our Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense

/in fact, it was the first day out of drydock when it grounded

remember the good old days when we got new ships?

47 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:03:22am

re: #45 Erik The Red

Morning/Evening Lizards.

Cog I see not talent there. Unless knowing how to use a computer and play a few note on a piano is what you call talent.

careful: he'll claim you're an "essentially unhappy person", and then you'll be scared for life too!

/woe is me

48 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:05:03am

re: #46 redc1c4

remember the good old days when we got new ships?

/the 400 ship Navy, under Obama?

49 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:06:35am

re: #20 Sharmuta

Funniest Irish Drinking Song Whose Line ever did:


Pissing myself LMAO

50 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:06:38am

re: #48 Killian Bundy

/the 400 ship Navy, under Obama?

i'm sure he'll fix it so we don't even need that many.......

more money for health care that way!

51 Cognito  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:08:52am

Apparently that little tune has taken her clear out of her bedroom and into the American music scene...

It may not be for everybody, but I like to see a young person craft something worthwhile instead of just lip-syncing.

52 gmsc  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:10:18am

Good evening, fellow lizards!

53 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:10:36am

From IDB:

“This video of you is outrageous. Check it out,” said the e-mail sent to Kurt Daradics, a tech consultant in Los Angeles, from a friend on Facebook.

Daradics felt it was safe to take a look. He clicked the link, which brought up a Web page, and then clicked the “Install” button to see the clip.

Within seconds the program rifled through his hard drive, installed malicious software and sent the same e-mail to all of Daradics’ friends on his Facebook profile.

On this December day, Daradics became a victim of a computer virus called Koobface.

/profession fail

54 stevieray  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:11:22am

A little bit of blues as I go face the small death... Death Letter.

Youtube Video

G'night all.

55 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:11:41am

re: #51 Cognito

Apparently that little tune has taken her clear out of her bedroom and into the American music scene...

It may not be for everybody, but I like to see a young person craft something worthwhile instead of just lip-syncing.

all that says is just how pathetic the "American music scene" has gotten.

and it certainly explains why sales are down, and it ain't downloading.

schise dosen't sell.

56 Cognito  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:12:13am

re: #54 stevieray

A little bit of blues as I go face the small death... Death Letter.


[Video]

G'night all.

Le Petit Mort? Really?

57 Cognito  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:12:40am

re: #55 redc1c4

Like I said, it may not be for everyone.

58 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:12:55am

re: #53 Killian Bundy

From IDB:

/profession fail

natural selection.

sympathy = 0

59 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:17:49am

re: #57 Cognito

Like I said, it may not be for everyone.

and the $$$ tells the truth. yet you, and the record companies both deny the truth, just as the movie industry does.

you all trumpet whatever crap as being the next big thing, and when we tell you it's crap, you get huffy and put it out anyway, because you're so much more sophisticated than we are.

we still don't buy it, and then you get pissy about the fact that we didn't buy into the scam.

she's a bimbo with a camera and some equipment. BFD.

now FOAD.

60 Cognito  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:18:25am

re: #59 redc1c4

and the $$$ tells the truth. yet you, and the record companies both deny the truth, just as the movie industry does.

you all trumpet whatever crap as being the next big thing, and when we tell you it's crap, you get huffy and put it out anyway, because you're so much more sophisticated than we are.

we still don't buy it, and then you get pissy about the fact that we didn't buy into the scam.

she's a bimbo with a camera and some equipment. BFD.

now FOAD.

Wow.

61 Cognito  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:20:09am

On that note I'll head to bed.

Y'all have a good night.

62 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:22:41am

re: #49 Erik The Red

The back story is "meow" was the running joke for the entire episode, but it's Ryan's mocking of Drew that cracks me up the most. Hilarious. Here's the whole episode in two parts:

Youtube Video
Youtube Video
63 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:30:51am

for a young lady with some talent, chops and a fair bit of electronic gear,
try this: That's not my name!

64 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:31:58am

re: #62 Sharmuta

The back story is "meow" was the running joke for the entire episode, but it's Ryan's mocking of Drew that cracks me up the most. Hilarious. Here's the whole episode in two parts:


[Video]

not sure i could stand to watch the whole thing..... never did understand why that wasn't prime time fodder, but i guess it's obvious.

65 gmsc  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:32:58am

gmsc's money tips #15:

Peter Lynch, who became famous as the money manager whose management of the Fidelity Magellan Fund gave it an annual return of 28.06% through the '70s and '80s wrote a book called One Up on Wall Street. In it, he gives some excellent advice on picking stocks, which is passed on in this entry in Peter Lynch's own words.

Getting the story on a company is a lot easier if you understand the basic business. That's why I'd rather invest in pantyhose than in communications satellites, or in motel chains than fiber optics. The simpler it is, the better I like it.

You can never find the perfect company, but if you can imagine it, then you'll know how to recognize favorable attributes, the most important 13 of which are as follows:

a) It sounds dull - or, even better, ridiculous. – Pep Boys – Manny, Moe and Jack – is the most promising name I've ever heard. It's better than dull - it's ridiculous. What Wall Street analyst in his right mind would recommend a stock called Pep Boys – unless, of course, the Street already realizes how profitable it is, and by then, it's up tenfold already.

b) It does something dull.

c) It does something disagreeable.

d) It's a spin-off.

e) The institutions don't own it, and the analysts don't follow it!

f) The rumors abound – It's involved with toxic waste and/or the mafia.

g) There's something depressing about it.

h) It's a non-growth industry. In a no-growth industry, especially one that's boring and upsets people, there's no problem with competition. You don't have to protect your flanks from potential rivals because nobody else is going to be interested.

i) It's got a niche. For example, drug companies and chemical companies have niches – products that no one else is allowed to make.

j) People have to keep buying it.

k) It's a user of technology.

l) The insiders are buyers.

m) The company is buying back stock.

In the next entry, Peter Lynch will return again, but with advice on stocks to avoid!

66 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:37:13am

re: #64 redc1c4

not sure i could stand to watch the whole thing..... never did understand why that wasn't prime time fodder, but i guess it's obvious.

My drama teacher was a big improv guy- drilled us on that ability, because when you're live on stage during a performance, you have to say something. So- I'm a lover of improv theater- to me it's fun. At least it's better than some chick with a computer, pecking keys on a keyboard, huh?

67 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:41:49am

re: #66 Sharmuta

My drama teacher was a big improv guy- drilled us on that ability, because when you're live on stage during a performance, you have to say something. So- I'm a lover of improv theater- to me it's fun. At least it's better than some chick with a computer, pecking keys on a keyboard, huh?

impromptu is my personal happy place too..... they used to call me "Sabot Mouth" in the Cav, cause no one was faster off the cuff.....

68 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:43:25am

re: #63 redc1c4

for a young lady with some talent, chops and a fair bit of electronic gear,
try this: That's not my name!

Sorry red that also doesn't do much for me. Better than Cog's crush but not my cup of tea.

69 gmsc  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:43:39am

re: #66 Sharmuta

My drama teacher was a big improv guy- drilled us on that ability, because when you're live on stage during a performance, you have to say something. So- I'm a lover of improv theater- to me it's fun. At least it's better than some chick with a computer, pecking keys on a keyboard, huh?

I love improv! In my occasional magic performances, I do prepare for almost anything that could go wrong, but those instances still come up that I haven't prepared for. Boy, am I glad I've trained myself to think on my feet when those things happen!

Sometimes, I'll make a mistake, cover it, and the cover is so good, that it becomes a part of the presentation!

70 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:47:28am

re: #68 Erik The Red

Sorry red that also doesn't do much for me. Better than Cog's crush but not my cup of tea.

how about these 3?

71 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:52:52am

re: #69 gmsc

The worst thing my drama teacher ever did to me was during an audition- we were working in groups doing improve, and I was doing well, as was my group. So he started "rhyme tag" where people come in and out on words rhyming with whatever word he gave the group. One group got "blue", another group got "day". My group- "orange". That was tricky- we had to make up nonsense words! But I came up with "sporange" as a biology rhyme and he was impressed. I got cast in the show.

72 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:56:24am

re: #70 redc1c4

how about these 3?

Give me These Sistersany day of the week and twice on Sunday

73 gmsc  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 12:57:40am

re: #71 Sharmuta

The worst thing my drama teacher ever did to me was during an audition- we were working in groups doing improve, and I was doing well, as was my group. So he started "rhyme tag" where people come in and out on words rhyming with whatever word he gave the group. One group got "blue", another group got "day". My group- "orange". That was tricky- we had to make up nonsense words! But I came up with "sporange" as a biology rhyme and he was impressed. I got cast in the show.

Syringe? R-Wrench? There's a mountain in Wales called "Blorenge" (although if you ask a local about it, they'll pronounce it "Blorens").
;)

74 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:00:10am

re: #72 Erik The Red

Give me These Sistersany day of the week and twice on Sunday

only if you share: that was nice.... no wonder i've never heard them, or are they only on country stations? (none of those in LA anymore, more or less)

75 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:01:18am

re: #74 redc1c4

only if you share: that was nice.... no wonder i've never heard them, or are they only on country stations? (none of those in LA anymore, more or less)

Irish group. Very good I will try and dig up more for you.

76 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:02:37am

re: #75 Erik The Red

Irish group. Very good I will try and dig up more for you.

The Corrs

77 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:03:33am

re: #76 Erik The Red

The Corrs

Go and buy their Unplugged DVD. Will blow you away.

78 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:05:08am

re: #73 gmsc

You know- I went to look up a list of non-rhyming words and found this:

English words that don't rhyme with anything

But even then there's more than four words without a rhyme, if a strict rhyming scheme is required. For example, "bachelor" almost rhymes with "spatula," but a strict rhyme would require a three-syllable rhyme containing both a "ch" in the middle and an "or" at its end. Following this rule, there's many more words without a perfect rhyme.

Almond, angst, aspirin, breadth, cannabis, chocolate, chimney, depth, different, elbow, engine, film, foible, fugue, galaxy, golf, hostage, iron, justice, luggage, neutron, office, olive, pizza, plankton, sanction, sandwich, transfer, width, and wolf.

Ironically, this rules means new problems for poets trying to replace the word "orange" with a different word like "citrus," since this strict rhyming scheme means there's also no word which rhymes with "citrus!"

And there is a perfect rhyme for the word "orange," if you use the right dictionary. Both Webster's Third Unabridged and the comprehensive Oxford English Dictionary include an entry for the word "sporange," an obscure term used only by botanists.

I had a real rhyme and didn't know it! I even managed to use it correctly. Wow- neato. The things you learn......

79 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:05:09am

i prefer to get into action extra funky or "chicked out to the max"

80 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:07:47am

re: #77 Erik The Red

Go and buy their Unplugged DVD. Will blow you away.

fav'd the post to check it out.....

my favorite Irish performer, doing one of those classics you *used* to hear on FM radio.....

Moon Child

81 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:10:06am

Second Liens Forgiven: Are You Kidding Me?

Amid the dozens of pages of details of the Obama mortgage modification plan, one new element will likely not make it into the headlines because it’s something of an afterthought.

It has to do with second liens, that is piggy back loans or home equity lines of credit.

Deep deep in the pages of the plan, is paragraph vi. Second Liens: While eligibly loan modifications will not require any participation by second lien holders, the program will include additional incentives to extinguish second liens on loans modified under the program in order to reduce the overall indebtedness of the borrower and improve loan performance. Servicers will be eligible to receive compensation when they contact second lien holders and extinguish valid junior liens. Servicers will be reimbursed for the release according to the specified schedule, and will also receive an extra $250 for obtaining a release of a valid second lien.

/wow, this is a real gravy train now, if you [expletive deleted] up your mortgage, the taxpayers are going to pick up the tab for any home equity loans you compounded your original mortgage [expletive deleted] up with too

82 pink freud  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:11:45am

re: #76 Erik The Red

The Corrs

Youtube Video
83 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:12:05am
84 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:14:12am

re: #81 Killian Bundy

Second Liens Forgiven: Are You Kidding Me?

/wow, this is a real gravy train now, if you [expletive deleted] up your mortgage, the taxpayers are going to pick up the tab for any home equity loans you compounded your original mortgage [expletive deleted] up with too

44 thinks he has an endless pit of money. I bet he does not even know what he is signing most of the time. His handlers say it is good for the economy and he just signs. HE IS A FUCKING PUPPET.

I wish I knew how to photoshop. I have a great idea in my head.

85 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:15:24am

re: #82 pink freud

Brilliant.

86 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:16:05am

re: #83 Benthoven

Our conversation quickly turned to politics and of course she's a ex-liberal who's now a dedicated dittohead, and boy, is she pissed about Obama's gun control agenda. More specifically, AMMO control. Here's what she said is coming down - all ammo will be required to be stamped with traceable serial numbers, and that our old ammo will become illegal to own, as will privately owned reloading supplies and equipment.

So much bull[expletive deleted].

/I'd ask for a linky but I'm afraid of what I'd get back

87 pink freud  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:16:10am

re: #85 Erik The Red

:-)

88 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:16:28am

Belgian politician sponsors Islamophobia

Far-right Belgian politician Filip Dewinter has written an anti-Islam book, describing the region as modern Europe's main problem.

He says this could materialize by barring immigrants from Muslim nations from entering Europe and imposing strict controls on the residing Muslims.

Yeah- this guys not a flaming fascist. Sure.

89 Pigtown Water Dog  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:16:40am

The things you learn here! Good morning, lizards.

90 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:18:50am

re: #83 Benthoven

Dude: you need a new shtick..... this one is already tired.

91 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:18:59am

re: #83 Benthoven

Except for the first paragraph great post. You don't have to like the ID threads that's fine. Just don't bitch about it. Charles house his rules. Don't come over when he is serving something you don't like.

92 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:19:10am
ammo will be required to be stamped with traceable serial numbers

/ooh, shoot someone, police your brass, what's the point?

93 Benthoven  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:19:57am

re: #86 Killian Bundy

As I said, I was relating a conversation. Are you saying I am bullshitting you or she was bullshitting me? Oh, and provide linky to show why this is so much bullshit please. Fkn Grouch!

94 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:20:37am

re: #81 Killian Bundy

Second Liens Forgiven: Are You Kidding Me?

/wow, this is a real gravy train now, if you [expletive deleted] up your mortgage, the taxpayers are going to pick up the tab for any home equity loans you compounded your original mortgage [expletive deleted] up with too

and how far will the market drop tomorrow, between this and oil and gas tax hike?

should we start a pool on when we will hit 5K?

95 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:22:18am

re: #92 Killian Bundy

To run up the cost of manufacturing ammo to make owning it cost-prohibitive for most people. That's the point...

96 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:22:31am

re: #92 Killian Bundy

/ooh, shoot someone, police your brass, what's the point?

bolt action rifles and revolvers are your friend.

97 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:24:00am

re: #93 Benthoven

As I said, I was relating a conversation. Are you saying I am bullshitting you or she was bullshitting me? Oh, and provide linky to show why this is so much bullshit please. Fkn Grouch!

It's one or the other.

/and no, you're the one spouting conspiracy craziness, you provide the link, that's the way it works around here, may as well ask me to post 9/11 controlled demolition links

98 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:24:02am

re: #95 Fenway_Nation

To run up the cost of manufacturing ammo to make owning it cost-prohibitive for most people. That's the point...

they are already breaking into cop cars in NorCal to steal weapons....

it's gonna get ugly.

99 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:24:27am

The Vatican and Evolution

The Vatican sought Tuesday to show that it isn't opposed to science and evolutionary theory, hosting a conference on Charles Darwin and trying to debunk the idea that it embraces creationism or intelligent design.

Some of the world's top biologists, paleontologists and molecular geneticists joined theologians and philosophers for the five-day seminar marking the 150th anniversary of Darwin's "The Origin of Species."

Cardinal William Levada, head of the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, said the Catholic Church doesn't stand in the way of scientific realities like evolution, saying there was a "wide spectrum of room" for belief in both the scientific basis for evolution and faith in God the creator.

"We believe that however creation has come about and evolved, ultimately God is the creator of all things," he said on the sidelines of the conference.

100 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:24:48am

re: #94 redc1c4

Interesting how the media mostly overlooked 0bama's 'profit-to-earnings' gaffe and single-handedly credited him for the market 'turnaround'.

101 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:25:17am

re: #97 Killian Bundy

It's one or the other.

/and no, you're the one spouting conspiracy craziness, you provide the link, that's the way it works around here, may as well ask me to post 9/11 controlled demolition links

KB this is not new. Give me sometime and I will dig it up. Heading over to Misha's place to look.

102 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:26:06am

re: #95 Fenway_Nation

To run up the cost of manufacturing ammo to make owning it cost-prohibitive for most people. That's the point...

Yeah, well, link it.

/so far, even the resurrection of the assault weapons ban has been shot down

103 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:26:17am

re: #100 Fenway_Nation

Interesting how the media mostly overlooked 0bama's 'profit-to-earnings' gaffe and single-handedly credited him for the market 'turnaround'.

it's because they don't understand it either.

dumber and dumberer.......

104 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:27:27am

re: #102 Killian Bundy

Yeah, well, link it.

/so far, even the resurrection of the assault weapons ban has been shot down

so far.......

give the scum time, and they will try all of this. the idjits in Sacto are really pushing the micro stamp thing.

105 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:28:32am

re: #98 redc1c4

I think that was my spinoff links from last week- they made off with some 'tactical' shotguns and a few AR-15s. Even less reassuring was that at least two different police stations were hit...

106 Benthoven  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:30:12am

re: #95 Fenway_Nation

To run up the cost of manufacturing ammo to make owning it cost-prohibitive for most people. That's the point...

That was my take on it. We know the Abominoids are just drooling to get more gun controls - that's public record so don't demand that links any third-grader could find in 2 seconds, Bundy. They just have that pesky Second Amendment to work around. Controlling ammo is the PERFECT work-around, as near as I can surmise.

107 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:30:20am

re: #94 redc1c4

and how far will the market drop tomorrow, between this and oil and gas tax hike?

Whatever the market does tomorrow, this program won't be on the radar screen.

/it's minor in the grand scheme of the spending swirling about, but damned irritating to anyone who's worked hard to pay off a mortgage and play by the rules

108 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:31:21am

re: #105 Fenway_Nation

I think that was my spinoff links from last week- they made off with some 'tactical' shotguns and a few AR-15s. Even less reassuring was that at least two different police stations were hit...

link is FUBAR, but iirc, it was the Caltrans W*rkers with Guns that were hit....

Can't
Handle
Policew*rk

109 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:32:36am

re: #102 Killian Bundy

Yeah, well, link it.

/so far, even the resurrection of the assault weapons ban has been shot down

My feeling was that the assault-weapon ban was a trial balloon to see how much they could try and get away with. Even with the Dems running the show, they know enough that overt propsals for more gun control don't resonate with the voters- so they'll try and market it as 'gun safety' or 'public safety' further down the line....

110 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:32:47am

re: #107 Killian Bundy

Whatever the market does tomorrow, this program won't be on the radar screen.

/it's minor in the grand scheme of the spending swirling about, but damned irritating to anyone who's worked hard to pay off a mortgage and play by the rules

not to argue, but it seems like a big thing to me.... what am i missing?

111 Scorch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:34:15am

re: #107 Killian Bundy

Whatever the market does tomorrow, this program won't be on the radar screen.

/it's minor in the grand scheme of the spending swirling about, but damned irritating to anyone who's worked hard to pay off a mortgage and play by the rules


Good morning all and yes we are in dire straits with this new administration along with our liberal, crazy, living in la la land congress.

112 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:34:18am

re: #106 Benthoven

We know the Abominoids are just drooling to get more gun controls - that's public record so don't demand that links any third-grader could find in 2 seconds

Really?

/so what, since you can't find one link, even a public record, in as much time as you want, you must be like a second grader?

113 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:34:51am

re: #108 redc1c4

Them and then the Contra Costa County Sherriff's Dept. for an encore.

/FUBAR? Really? It worked for me...

114 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:36:24am

re: #113 Fenway_Nation

Them and then the Contra Costa County Sherriff's Dept. for an encore.

/FUBAR? Really? It worked for me...

i got a LGF fail, but then again, i'm running the Vista back up box, so anything is possible.

115 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:36:32am

re: #110 redc1c4

not to argue, but it seems like a big thing to me.... what am i missing?

/it should be a big thing to honest homeowners but the markets are trading on much larger issues, like China stimulus for instance

116 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:37:02am

re: #112 Killian Bundy

Really?

/so what, since you can't find one link, even a public record, in as much time as you want, you must be like a second grader?

that's gonna leave a mark....... %-)

117 Scorch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:37:48am

re: #109 Fenway_Nation

Same thoughts here. I am really watching this ammo encoding legislation to see if it is proposed here in Texas. We are very passionate about our 2nd amendment rights and all these proposals are really getting everyones attention in Texas.

118 rightside  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:38:20am

re: #84 Erik The Red

Tell me your idea!

Morning Lizards.

119 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:40:17am

re: #115 Killian Bundy

/it should be a big thing to honest homeowners but the markets are trading on much larger issues, like China stimulus for instance

so they bump up their economy.... where are they going to sell the stuff?

better yet, where are they going to get the money, or are they just printing paper?

120 Scorch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:40:17am

re: #118 rightside
Buenos nachos Rightside.

121 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:41:12am

re: #118 rightside

Tell me your idea!

Morning Lizards.

no, we're the LNDT lizards..... the "morning lizards" aren't due in for some time..... care for a drink?

122 Benthoven  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:41:16am

re: #112 Killian Bundy

Ok asshole. This was #1 of 49,300 Google hits for "gun control eric holder". BTW Eric Holder is our new Attorney General. Want me to post the other 49,299 links for you?

[Link: volokh.com...]

123 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:41:49am

re: #118 rightside

Tell me your idea!

Morning Lizards.

A puppet of 44 with Reid, Polosi, Soros and a few other pulling the strings.

124 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:42:01am

Yes, in a fantasy United States, Obama, Biden, and Holder would like nothing better than to knock on your door and confiscate all your firearms. Not even close to happening.

/there's no need to get hysterical about bull[expletive deleted] rumors

125 rightside  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:43:20am

re: #121 redc1c4

I'm a morning lizard, just in earlier than normal. Sure, how about some water?

126 rightside  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:43:38am

re: #123 Erik The Red


I'll see what I can do.

127 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:44:15am

re: #115 Killian Bundy

HB 4258 and HB 4259

Creates the Ammunition Accountability Act. Provides that all firearm ammunition manufactured or sold in the State of Illinois on or after January 1, 2010 shall be coded by the manufacturer. Provides that effective January 1, 2010, all firearm ammunition used within the State of Illinois shall be coded by the manufacturer. Provides that on or after January 1, 2010, a person in possession of non-coded ammunition that was manufactured prior to January 1, 2010, may transfer the same only to an heir, to an individual residing in another state maintaining the ammunition in another state, or to a federally licensed firearms dealer. Provides that the Department of State Police shall be responsible for establishing and maintaining an Ammunition Coding System Database (ACSD) containing specified information. Establishes penalties and exemptions.

128 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:45:35am

re: #122 Benthoven

Ok asshole. This was #1 of 49,300 Google hits for "gun control eric holder". BTW Eric Holder is our new Attorney General. Want me to post the other 49,299 links for you?

[Link: volokh.com...]

Gee, Holder (Obama and Biden too) has wet dreams about eliminating private possession of firearms, tell me something I don't already know.

/where's the ammo stamping?

129 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:45:43am

re: #114 redc1c4

Also came across an article where some police-issue .40cals from a Nevada Parole & Probation facility in Las Vegas a few years back....

130 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:45:46am

re: #122 Benthoven

Ok asshole. This was #1 of 49,300 Google hits for "gun control eric holder". BTW Eric Holder is our new Attorney General. Want me to post the other 49,299 links for you?

[Link: volokh.com...]

asshole? you must be looking in the mirror, cause there's fuck all at the link you posted to support your claim.

wanna try again, or just get moved down to first grade and retrain?

131 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:46:10am

re: #127 Erik The Red

HB 4258 and HB 4259

Creates the Ammunition Accountability Act. Provides that all firearm ammunition manufactured or sold in the State of Illinois on or after January 1, 2010 shall be coded by the manufacturer. Provides that effective January 1, 2010, all firearm ammunition used within the State of Illinois shall be coded by the manufacturer. Provides that on or after January 1, 2010, a person in possession of non-coded ammunition that was manufactured prior to January 1, 2010, may transfer the same only to an heir, to an individual residing in another state maintaining the ammunition in another state, or to a federally licensed firearms dealer. Provides that the Department of State Police shall be responsible for establishing and maintaining an Ammunition Coding System Database (ACSD) containing specified information. Establishes penalties and exemptions.

HB 4269 and HB 4349

Creates the Regulated Firearms Encoded Ammunition Act and amends the State Finance Act. Provides that a manufacturer of ammunition for handguns and certain specified assault weapons sold in this State after January 1, 2009 must encode the ammunition in such a manner that the Director of State Police establishes. Provides that ammunition contained in one ammunition box may not be labeled with the same serial number as the ammunition contained in any other ammunition box from the same manufacturer. Provides that on or before January 1, 2011, an owner of ammunition for use in a regulated firearm that is not encoded by the manufacturer shall dispose of the ammunition. Provides that beginning on January 1, 2009, the Director of State Police shall establish and maintain an encoded ammunition database. Creates the Ammunition Accountability Fund as a special fund in the State treasury. Provides that subject to appropriation, the Department of State Police may use moneys from the Fund to establish and maintain the encoded ammunition database. Provides that beginning January 1, 2009, each person selling encoded ammunition at retail in this State shall collect from retail customers a fee of $0.05 for each round that is sold and delivered in this State. Establishes civil and criminal penalties for violations of the Regulated Firearms Encoded Ammunition Act. Effective January 1, 2009.

132 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:46:22am

re: #125 rightside

I'm a morning lizard, just in earlier than normal. Sure, how about some water?

Scotch and water it is......

/easy on the water %-)

133 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:48:10am

re: #127 Erik The Red

Nice, Illinois, think it has any chance in hell of becoming law?

/linky?

134 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:48:12am

re: #127 Erik The Red

".....Provides that all firearm ammunition manufactured or sold in the State of Illinois...."

1. not national.
2. likely unconstitutional

135 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:49:10am

re: #126 rightside

I'll see what I can do.

Thanks I need a new avatar for FB. Pisses off my moonbat friends and relatives.

136 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:50:01am

Greetings everyone! Just woke up from sleeping 10 + hours! Makes up for only sleeping 1 hour the night before....
Am trying to catch up on the news. Did everyone see the story about Timothy Geithner? I see Hello Dare had a link, but this is truly amazing. I keep weaking defending the Obama admin, in saying they don't truly want to destroy the economy, they just are itching to put into place all the stupid ideas they have had for years and years. Now, after reading this, I really do think they are just stupid/evil enough to want to bring the economy to it's knees!

"We don't believe it makes sense to significantly subsidize the production and use of sources of energy (like oil and gas) that are dramatically going to add to our climate change (problem). We don't think that's good economic policy and we think changing those incentives is good for the country,"" target...

137 Scorch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:50:07am

re: #131 Erik The Red
Everyone I've spoken to concerning the disposal of unencoded ammunition by 2011 has made the same response. Good luck with that.

138 gmsc  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:50:30am

re: #124 Killian Bundy

Yes, in a fantasy United States, Obama, Biden, and Holder would like nothing better than to knock on your door and confiscate all your firearms. Not even close to happening.

/there's no need to get hysterical about bull[expletive deleted] rumors

I don't know. The more I watch 0bama, the more it makes me want to invest in hysteria (i know it will be going up!).
;)

139 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:50:34am

what we really need are micro printed fruitcup.....

/or was that micro dot in the fruitcup?

guess we'll find out shortly.

i wonder if LoL is gong to wear the tube top tonight or the Hooters tank ?

any bets?

140 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:51:05am

re: #133 Killian Bundy

Nice, Illinois, think it has any chance in hell of becoming law?

/linky?

re: #134 redc1c4

".....Provides that all firearm ammunition manufactured or sold in the State of Illinois...."

1. not national.
2. likely unconstitutional

You are right. I was just pointing out that some people want this to happen. If it gets any traction in Il. wait for it to go to other Moonbat States.

141 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:51:14am

I keep weakly defending the Obama admin, in saying they don't truly want to destroy the economy

142 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:51:57am

re: #137 Scorch

Everyone I've spoken to concerning the disposal of unencoded ammunition by 2011 has made the same response. Good luck with that.

well, i can think of one way to use it up...... %-)

143 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:52:11am

re: #131 Erik The Red

Provides that beginning on January 1, 2009, the Director of State Police shall establish and maintain an encoded ammunition database. Creates the Ammunition Accountability Fund as a special fund in the State treasury. Provides that subject to appropriation, the Department of State Police may use moneys from the Fund to establish and maintain the encoded ammunition database. Provides that beginning January 1, 2009, each person selling encoded ammunition at retail in this State shall collect from retail customers a fee of $0.05 for each round that is sold and delivered in this State. Establishes civil and criminal penalties for violations of the Regulated Firearms Encoded Ammunition Act. Effective January 1, 2009.

So this is now the law in Illinois? Hard to tell without a linky.

/gee, you'd think the NRA would have complained or something

144 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:52:46am

re: #141 ziggyelman

I keep weakly defending the Obama admin, in saying they don't truly want to destroy the economy

don't bother: it's obvious that they do.

145 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:53:02am

re: #142 redc1c4

well, i can think of one way to use it up...... %-)

Only one red? I can think of a 100 or so and than another 400 or so ways.

146 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:54:07am

re: #143 Killian Bundy

So this is now the law in Illinois? Hard to tell without a linky.

/gee, you'd think the NRA would have complained or something

Not law. House Bills I gave you the numbers go look it up yourself.

147 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:54:54am

re: #145 Erik The Red

Only one red? I can think of a 100 or so and than another 400 or so ways.

i was speaking strategically, not tactically.....

/why do they want to take the guns to begin with?

148 Benthoven  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:55:29am

re: #131 Erik The Red

Damn nice research Erik. As I said earlier, I was just relating a conversation I had today with a Cop. It was the first I'd heard of the ammo-stamping strategy for back-door gun control legislation that legally bypasses the Second Amendment. I think anyone who values the Constitution should be concerned about it.

149 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:55:42am

re: #145 Erik The Red

Only one red? I can think of a 100 or so and than another 400 or so ways.

and yes, there is only one "red"..... accept NO substitutes!

150 Scorch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:56:06am

re: #142 redc1c4

well, i can think of one way to use it up...... %-)


LOL...watchout, we definitely have an extremely paranoid administration now. Only problem is they are afraid of their constituents instead of our enemies.

151 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:56:22am

re: #138 gmsc

I don't know. The more I watch 0bama, the more it makes me want to invest in hysteria (i know it will be going up!).
;)

More people would invest in hysteria than even gold! ;)

152 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:57:09am

re: #148 Benthoven

Damn nice research Erik. As I said earlier, I was just relating a conversation I had today with a Cop. It was the first I'd heard of the ammo-stamping strategy for back-door gun control legislation that legally bypasses the Second Amendment. I think anyone who values the Constitution should be concerned remain sane about it.

FTFY!

after 0200 L, someone else is on rumor control. %-)

153 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:57:39am

re: #146 Erik The Red

Not law. House Bills I gave you the numbers go look it up yourself.

OK I will do it for you

HB4258
HB4259
HB4269
HB4349

154 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 1:58:21am

re: #150 Scorch

LOL...watchout, we definitely have an extremely paranoid administration now. Only problem is they are afraid of their constituents instead of our enemies.

their constituents are what they consider enemies......

call it a self fulfilling prophecy.

155 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:00:09am

re: #146 Erik The Red

Not law. House Bills I gave you the numbers go look it up yourself.

Well, for starters, I'll go out on a limb here and guess that whichever House bill was supposed to become effective 1/1/09 went down in flames. And just why the [expletive deleted] am I supposed to go look for the source of [expletive deleted] you post?

/where did you copy/paste it from?

156 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:00:17am

Anyone see LoL? She busy microstamping the fruitcup?

157 littleoldlady  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:00:21am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

158 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:01:08am

re: #157 littleoldlady

Thanks!

159 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:01:16am

tonight's microstamped, ballistically registered, organically grown and genetically altered fruitcup, soaked in Value-Rite vodka, is over there somewhere....>

and please, don't forget to....................

160 littleoldlady  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:01:25am

re: #156 Fenway_Nation

Fenway! :-)

My days of "hitting it on the nose" are over. This computer is on Funky Time.

161 littleoldlady  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:01:48am

Sharmuta! :-)

162 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:01:49am

re: #155 Killian Bundy

Well, for starters, I'll go out on a limb here and guess that whichever House bill was supposed to become effective 1/1/09 went down in flames. And just why the [expletive deleted] am I supposed to go look for the source of [expletive deleted] you post?

/where did you copy/paste it from?

Fuck You KB. See #153. Asshole.

163 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:02:31am

re: #157 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

{lol) Thank you hope you have a great day.

164 gmsc  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:03:07am

re: #157 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

Thank you very much, littleoldlady!
:)

165 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:03:36am

re: #162 Erik The Red

Fuck You KB. See #153. Asshole.

isn't it about time for you to subtlety suggest i go to bed?

/diversion

166 littleoldlady  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:04:45am

Erik! :-)

gmsc! :-)

red! :-)

NICE! ;-)

Killian! :-)

167 Scorch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:04:47am

re: #162 Erik The Red
Man I love a spirited conversation!

168 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:04:57am

re: #153 Erik The Red

OK I will do it for you

HB4258
HB4259
HB4269
HB4349

Thank you.

/all stuck in committee

169 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:05:28am

re: #144 redc1c4

don't bother: it's obvious that they do.

It's becoming more clear every day. The link in my 136 post shows that as clearly as anything. They know the oil companies are unpopular, but to up their taxes, in the middle of the great recession, and to use global warming as a reason...just stinks.
Thank God we have a brave man like Geithner to suggest this!
/

170 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:05:33am

And as for the 'Escalating-Violence-in-Mexico-is-Because-There-Isn't-Enough-Gun-Control-in-the-USA' argument, not once do I hear these MSM tools question how secure the police and militarty armories are down there....

I discussed that with a Mexican national not too long ago and he vehemently denied that the Mexican Army would allow their weaponry fall into the hands of the drug traffickers.

'Would the police?' I asked

'Probably'.

171 gmsc  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:05:49am

gmsc's money tips #16:

As promised in my previous money tips post, here are Peter Lynch's rules for stocks to avoid. Again, this post is done in Peter Lynch's own words.

If I could avoid a single stock, it would be the hottest stock in the hottest industry, the one that gets the most favorable publicity. Hot stocks can go up fast, usually out of sight of any of the known landmarks of value, but since there's nothing but hope and thin air to support them, they fall just as quickly.

Beware the "next" something. Another stock I'd avoid is a stock in a company that's been touted as the next IBM, the next McDonald's, the next Intel, or the next Disney, etc. In my experience, the next of something almost never is – Broadway, the best-seller list, the National Basketball Association, or Wall Street.

Avoid diversfication. Instead of buying back shares or raising dividends, profitable companies often prefer to blow the money on foolish acquisitions. The dedicated diversifier seeks out merchandise that is (1) overpriced, and (2) completely beyond his or her realm of understanding. This ensures the losses will be maximized.

Beware the whisper stock. These are the long shots and the whiz-bang stories. Often the whisper companies are on the brink of solving the latest national problem, and the solution is either (a) very imaginative, or (b) impressively complicated.

What I try to remind myself is that if the prospects are so phenomenal, then this will be a fine investment next year and the year after that. You can get tenbaggers in companies that have already proven themselves. When in doubt, tune in later.

Beware the middleman. The company that sells 25 to 50% of its wares to a single customer is in a precarious situation. If the loss of one customer would be catastrophic to a supplier, I'd be wary of investing in this supplier.

Beware the stock with the exciting name. As often as a dull name in a good company keeps early buyers away, a flashy name in a mediocre company attracts investors and gives them a false sense of security.

172 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:06:23am

re: #167 Scorch

Man I love a spirited conversation!

naw... the spirits are in the fruitcup.

(except for the spirit in the sky.... ask Norman. %-)

173 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:07:09am

re: #168 Killian Bundy

Thank you.

/all stuck in committee

KB not once did I say it was law or even National. All I am trying to say is that the LV LEO is right. There are people that are trying to get traction with this shit.

174 gmsc  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:07:34am

re: #168 Killian Bundy

Thank you.

/all stuck in committee

It's just a bill, yes, it's only a bill...

Youtube Video
175 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:08:25am

re: #174 gmsc

It's just a bill, yes, it's only a bill...

[Video]

not to worry: Ear Leader will be paying all our bills!

i saw it on TV, so it has to be true.......

176 Benthoven  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:09:55am

re: #162 Erik The Red

I'll second that sentiment, Erik. Fuck you KB. You DEMAND links from me and Erik, we provide links and then you post this:

And just why the [expletive deleted] am I supposed to go look for the source of [expletive deleted] you post?

/where did you copy/paste it from?

You remind me of my ex-wife. Asshole.

177 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:10:02am

OK: i typed that with a straight face, which means it's past time for me to hit it.

hasta y'all.....

L8r!

(see ya in a few hours Eric, and don't freak when you do! %-)

178 Scorch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:10:14am

re: #170 Fenway_Nation
We live 10 miles north of the mexican border and the mexican army has heavily armed soldiers at our border crossings down here. The army seems to be doing the right thing but the drug cartels are paying families to protest their presence in cities along the border. 25 bucks still goes a long way down there.

179 redc1c4  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:10:46am

re: #176 Benthoven

I'll second that sentiment, Erik. Fuck you KB. You DEMAND links from me and Erik, we provide links and then you post this:

You remind me of my ex-wife. Asshole.

you were married to Killian?

no wonder you're so grumpy........ have you seen a therapist?

180 freetoken  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:12:37am

re: #157 littleoldlady


Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

Yay!

181 Sharmuta  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:13:01am

For littleoldlady:

Youtube Video
182 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:13:15am

re: #177 redc1c4

I saw on TV that the Snuggie was one-size fits all....

183 Scorch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:13:30am

re: #172 redc1c4

As in Greenbaum? Maybe I need to saunter on over to the fruitcup buffet.

184 gmsc  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:14:26am

re: #175 redc1c4

not to worry: Ear Leader will be paying all our bills!

i saw it on TV, so it has to be true.......

Here's the 0bama will solve EVERYTHING! YouTube playlist. If you think I'm missing any videos from there, please send the link to me!

185 littleoldlady  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:14:40am

freetoken! :-)

Sharmuta,

HA.

186 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:14:58am

re: #173 Erik The Red

KB not once did I say it was law or even National. All I am trying to say is that the LV LEO is right. There are people that are trying to get traction with this shit.

Yes, yes, just like those trying to push Intelligent Design bills nationwide or the crazy sucker in West Virginia trying to outlaw Barbie.

/they bear watching, but I rate their chances of ultimate success about zero

187 gmsc  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:17:14am

re: #186 Killian Bundy

Yes, yes, just like those trying to push Intelligent Design bills nationwide or the crazy sucker in West Virginia trying to outlaw Barbie.

What is clicked, cannot be unclicked...

Youtube Video
188 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:17:22am

re: #178 Scorch

I think Mexico is going through what Colombia went through about 20 years ago.....although the circumstances that set up the respective narcoinsurgencies are a little different (an influential kingpin declaring war against the gov't in Colombia vs the Mexican gov't arresting the nation's most powerful kingpin and the spiraling violence that's taking place with warring factions trying to fill in the vaccum).

189 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:18:31am

re: #176 Benthoven

You DEMAND links from me and Erik, we provide links

/well, your link was lame and not on point and LGF protocol demands that you provide links for any non-original thought that you post anyway

190 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:20:32am

re: #184 gmsc

Here's the 0bama will solve EVERYTHING! YouTube playlist. If you think I'm missing any videos from there, please send the link to me!

Man, had not seen the one with the school bus driver in the 800K house wanting to be bailed out. Who's scarier, her, or the "economist" from Maryland that says a mere 50 to 100 billion isn't close to the 1 trillion thats really needed....sigh.

191 rightside  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:21:04am

re: #135 Erik The Red

How about this?

192 gmsc  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:22:43am

re: #190 ziggyelman

Man, had not seen the one with the school bus driver in the 800K house wanting to be bailed out. Who's scarier, her, or the "economist" from Maryland that says a mere 50 to 100 billion isn't close to the 1 trillion thats really needed....sigh.

Scary isn't it?

You know, I paid the full price of my current house in cash. No payments. No interest. I'd like to bailed out! Give me the full asking price of my house at the time I bought it! (Hey, as long as everyone else is doing it....)
;)

193 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:23:41am

re: #191 rightside

How about this?

Great thanks. It has been saved. I must really learn to use photoshop.

194 Scorch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:25:13am

re: #188 Fenway_Nation
That pretty much hits the nail on the head.

195 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:25:37am

re: #187 gmsc

What is clicked, cannot be unclicked...

/Barbie has tats, who knew?

196 rightside  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:25:55am

re: #193 Erik The Red

You're welcome.

197 Scorch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:27:56am

re: #196 rightside
Mind if I call you starboard side? :)

198 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:28:04am

re: #192 gmsc


Credit Cards will be next. Like an idiot, I paid off the balance on two out of three of my credit cards like an idiot when I should've been biding my time for an 0bama handout...

199 rightside  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:29:40am

re: #197 Scorch

with karma like yours, I'd be foolish to mind.

200 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:29:52am

re: #192 gmsc

Scary isn't it?

You know, I paid the full price of my current house in cash. No payments. No interest. I'd like to bailed out! Give me the full asking price of my house at the time I bought it! (Hey, as long as everyone else is doing it....)
;)

Paid for your house, in cash? YOU are what's wrong with this country! ;) Won't even go into debt to buy a house. Shame on you!

What's sad is with all these billions and trillions of dollars being throw around, is it starts making me wish for a way to get my stinkin' paws on some of it. Come on, give me something, anything! I'll take just a million! I'll put it to good use, I swear!

201 gmsc  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:31:42am

re: #198 Fenway_Nation

Credit Cards will be next. Like an idiot, I paid off the balance on two out of three of my credit cards like an idiot when I should've been biding my time for an 0bama handout...

I'm even stupider. I've never used, or even had, a credit card in my entire life.

My credit record looks really bizarre - it shows me as never purchasing anything with credit. However, when you search further for my name in credit records, you can find numerous people who me money with interest!

202 littleoldlady  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:34:47am

re: #201 gmsc

I'm afraid for you, gmsc! The government is going to want to deport you!

:-/

203 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:35:16am

re: #200 ziggyelman

I've been obsessing over Krugerrands, Libertad, Maple Leaf and Liberty bullion coins months before all these billions and trillions of dollars were being flung around.

/I have some Argentine banknotes from the 1970s/1980s as an object lesson about otherwise developed countries trying 'stimulate' the economy by printing more money

204 Scorch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:35:26am

re: #199 rightside

with karma like yours, I'd be foolish to mind.


LOL...karma in this blog is like an elementary school clique.

205 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:35:42am

re: #201 gmsc

I'm even stupider. I've never used, or even had, a credit card in my entire life.

My credit record looks really bizarre - it shows me as never purchasing anything with credit. However, when you search further for my name in credit records, you can find numerous people who me money with interest!

I am returning to the US in June. Do you have a job for me in Fl.? :)

206 gmsc  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:35:48am

re: #202 littleoldlady

I'm afraid for you, gmsc! The government is going to want to deport you!

:-/

For lack of patriotism, no doubt.

207 gmsc  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:36:45am

re: #205 Erik The Red

I am returning to the US in June. Do you have a job for me in Fl.? :)

Nope - being in Nevada, it's hard to do much in Florida.
;)

208 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:38:49am

re: #200 ziggyelman

What's sad is with all these billions and trillions of dollars being throw around, is it starts making me wish for a way to get my stinkin' paws on some of it. Come on, give me something, anything! I'll take just a million! I'll put it to good use, I swear!

/start here and here

209 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:43:07am

re: #203 Fenway_Nation

I've been obsessing over Krugerrands, Libertad, Maple Leaf and Liberty bullion coins months before all these billions and trillions of dollars were being flung around.

/I have some Argentine banknotes from the 1970s/1980s as an object lesson about otherwise developed countries trying 'stimulate' the economy by printing more money

In lieu of a million in cash, I'd be willing to take say 50 Krugerrands, I'm not greedy!

Very few can imagine the US Dollar being worthless, can they?
Least of all the Big 0 and his cronies. They want to hurt, just not kill the economy. They will be real sorry like if it happened though.
I guess China can bail us out of any crisis though, right? And kill dissenters with impunity from now on. Of course, that's already what they do....

210 Buster Bunny  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:43:12am

Good Evening Lizards !

There was a juicy linkage in the Recent Links section. I went to it, it calls itself THE OBAMA FORUM.

It made me puke. And Charles, if any site is worth writing up as a means to show up what people who support him are prepared to do, this is it.

These are ACTUAL QUOTES (I will use names, so you can track them on the site, or reference the person if the quotes are removed.

BergBuilder - Supreme Obamatologist

Ok, if you see a car with a bumper sticker or anything about freedom or liberty or hatred for taxes or one of those "nobamba" bumper stickers or anything that is against the government or Obama, do what you can to mark down the license plate number. Maybe the make and model of the car, I bet we might be able to get a statistical probability based on make and model to just go after all of a certain type of car. The government will have need for such a list pretty soon.

I saw one this morning so I'll start the list:

License Plate: IM1337 - Texas
Silver Cadillac Escalade
Infraction: Ron Paul 2008 bumper sticker and a little "don't tread on me" sign.
__________________
Things are going to change I can feel it.

Red Blade - Master Obamatologist

Re: President Obama's Project ENDGAME
Quote:
Originally Posted by Devious View Post
that's really fucked up. it's getting more and more like nazi germany round here. we need to put an end to this
Racist pig!
__________________
For struggle, Solidarity and Socialism! I swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Obama. Our laws and his will, according to him. We will not overthrow the government with violence. We shall stand, remain and be the law of his realm forever. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead for Obama to deliver them from evil.

I hope its some sort of Happy Meal fanclub. Because the way they are talking is pure lunacy.

211 MJBrutus  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:45:48am

The life of a repo-man is always intense.

212 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:46:27am

re: #208 Killian Bundy

/start here and here

Thanks, but not nearly enough. How could I possibly pay my soon to be 8ooK mortgage on that kind of chump change? ;)

213 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:47:11am

re: #210 Buster Bunny

Good Evening Lizards !

There was a juicy linkage in the Recent Links section. I went to it, it calls itself THE OBAMA FORUM.

It made me puke. And Charles, if any site is worth writing up as a means to show up what people who support him are prepared to do, this is it.

These are ACTUAL QUOTES (I will use names, so you can track them on the site, or reference the person if the quotes are removed.

BergBuilder - Supreme Obamatologist

I hope its some sort of Happy Meal fanclub. Because the way they are talking is pure lunacy.

OMG. Has the US developed some new drug that makes you stupid. If they have please keep it under control. Although I think they are using all the supply's on 44 worshipers.

214 Buster Bunny  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:47:22am

re: #210 Buster Bunny

I'm still trying to work out whether the linkage I posted is a comedy site .. a Neo Nazi site modelling on Obamazoids .. or .. just lunatics ..

All of the above would make sense. Just grab any part of the quotes .. they are stuff to shiver about.

215 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:47:52am

re: #210 Buster Bunny

I hope its some sort of Happy Meal fanclub. Because the way they are talking is pure lunacy.

/I don't think they're well armed

216 Scorch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:48:23am

re: #210 Buster Bunny
Very spooky isn't it?

217 Buster Bunny  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:50:36am

re: #216 Scorch

Very spooky isn't it?

Read the one from a guy called Josiah .. talking about Neighbourhood Watch. Yes .. its awful, its kids ratting on their neighbours to please their parents.

Its awful stuff.

218 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:50:51am

re: #210 Buster Bunny

Good Evening Lizards !

There was a juicy linkage in the Recent Links section. I went to it, it calls itself THE OBAMA FORUM.

It made me puke. And Charles, if any site is worth writing up as a means to show up what people who support him are prepared to do, this is it.

These are ACTUAL QUOTES (I will use names, so you can track them on the site, or reference the person if the quotes are removed.

BergBuilder - Supreme Obamatologist

I hope its some sort of Happy Meal fanclub. Because the way they are talking is pure lunacy.

I almost get the feeling that whole site is a joke. Something to get right wingers in a tizzy....something smells if you ask me. Moby started it perchance?

219 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:53:25am

re: #218 ziggyelman

Likewise- altho' for all we know it could've been a spoof where some true believers joined up, unaware that it was a spoof, and continue to spout off.

220 Buster Bunny  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:55:11am

re: #218 ziggyelman

I almost get the feeling that whole site is a joke. Something to get right wingers in a tizzy....something smells if you ask me. Moby started it perchance?

I'm hoping its a joke. Because if its not, its beyond acceptable.

221 Timbre  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:57:55am

Adios, TO. This is another fine mess you've gotten yourself into. I hope he ends up with the -----. (Don't wanna insult the team publicly.)

222 Scorch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:58:21am

Later all. Off to see how the crew did last night. Just remember, support the farmers, eat your veggies and by all means buy US cotton products!

223 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:58:53am

re: #220 Buster Bunny

I'm hoping its a joke. Because if its not, its beyond acceptable.

I was just over there.(have bleached my eyes). There is way to many post and subjects for this to be a joke. GOD help us if this is what some people really think and believe. I will not go back to that site.

224 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:59:17am

New comments button didn't work for me, had to refresh the whole page...anyone else have that issue?

225 rightside  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 2:59:57am

re: #224 ziggyelman

Negative ghostrider, the pattern is full.

226 gmsc  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:02:23am

Good night, all! It's time to engage in an 8-hour blink.

227 Buster Bunny  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:02:35am

re: #223 Erik The Red

I'm sorry Erik .. as I said .. it made me queezy. But it was bad enough that I thought it was important.

228 rightside  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:03:39am

re: #227 Buster Bunny

Never underestimate the power of the Kool-aid.

229 UncleRancher  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:05:14am

re: #224 ziggyelman

New comments button didn't work for me, had to refresh the whole page...anyone else have that issue?

A couple of days ago. I think the script got interrupted somehow. The problem went away when I restarted Firefox.

230 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:09:21am

Well, GM just filed a 10K that basically said bankruptcy is inevitable. Good, that's exactly what the bankruptcy laws are for.

/I guess we'l'l find out who's right and whether GM is "too big to fail"

231 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:09:25am

re: #229 UncleRancher

A couple of days ago. I think the script got interrupted somehow. The problem went away when I restarted Firefox.

I use Firefox. Usually less balkiness with it vs. Microsoft..

232 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:10:00am

re: #227 Buster Bunny

I'm sorry Erik .. as I said .. it made me queezy. But it was bad enough that I thought it was important.

No problem. Not blaming you. That stuff should be brought out into the open.

233 UncleRancher  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:11:35am

re: #231 ziggyelman

I use Firefox. Usually less balkiness with it vs. Microsoft..

Yep. I use IE only under extreme duress. Then I'm out of it asap.

234 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:12:14am

re: #230 Killian Bundy

Well, GM just filed a 10K that basically said bankruptcy is inevitable. Good, that's exactly what the bankruptcy laws are for.

/I guess we'l'l find out who's right and whether GM is "too big to fail"

I don't necessarily agree with what a friend said, but he thought a lot of people wouldn't buy a car from a company that declared bankruptcy. I said folks fly airlines that went thru it, but he just thought folks would be leery of buying a car from a company that might disappear in a year or so.
Ford sales in February were HALF what they were in February of 2008.

235 UncleRancher  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:12:45am

re: #232 Erik The Red

No problem. Not blaming you. That stuff should be brought out into the open.

I try to stay away from the nutcases. They're bad for your brain.

236 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:14:42am

re: #210 Buster Bunny I'm pretty sure that is a parody site. The Onion on steroids, with bad taste and poor judgement.

237 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:14:45am

re: #223 Erik The Red

This was my 3000th post. w00t

238 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:15:49am

Good morning, Lizards!

239 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:16:24am
If we are unable to restructure the Series D convertible debentures prior to June 1, 2009, or otherwise satisfactorily address the payment due on June 1, 2009, a default would arise with respect to payment of these obligations, which could also trigger cross defaults in other outstanding debt, which would potentially require us to seek relief through a filing under the U.S. Bankruptcy Code.

/Form 10-K for GENERAL MOTORS CORP

240 rightside  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:17:43am

re: #238 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

241 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:17:46am

re: #223 Erik The Red
From some of the quotes I think it is the work of Ron Paulians with waaay too much time on their hands.
Nobody sees Ron Paul as a threat except the Paulians.

242 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:18:27am

re: #240 rightside

{goddess}

{rightside}

243 littleoldlady  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:19:00am

re: #222 Scorch

Later all. Off to see how the crew did last night. Just remember, support the farmers, eat your veggies and by all means buy US cotton products!

Fuggetaboutit.

/learn how to grow your own food

244 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:19:01am

re: #233 UncleRancher

Yep. I use IE only under extreme duress. Then I'm out of it asap.

I hear ya! I do have to use it for a few reasons.(IE) If you want to send a whole page to yourself, not just a link, you can do that, and for some reason, stuff prints larger using IE. No matter how much I zoom in with mozilla mapquest for example, prints so small as to almost be unreadable. At least it's unreadable while driving.
Anyone know a trick to get it bigger in firefox?

245 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:19:20am

re: #238 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards!

{gotc}

246 Buster Bunny  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:19:22am

re: #241 Jim in Virginia

Ha ! Jim .. you are right !

Whatever it is .. its wierd and wired. I wont link to it again.

247 UncleRancher  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:19:53am

re: #237 Erik The Red

This was my 3000th post. w00t

I think I'm up to about a dozen now. (new here)

248 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:20:44am

re: #247 UncleRancher

Karma: 31

UncleRancher

(Logged in)
Registered since: Feb 21, 2009 at 5:09 pm
No. of comments posted: 72
No. of links posted: 0

249 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:20:51am

re: #245 Erik The Red

{gotc}

{Erik the Red}

Congratulations on your mile stone!

250 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:23:33am

re: #234 ziggyelman

I don't necessarily agree with what a friend said, but he thought a lot of people wouldn't buy a car from a company that declared bankruptcy. I said folks fly airlines that went thru it, but he just thought folks would be leery of buying a car from a company that might disappear in a year or so.

The government would provide the DIP (debtor-in-possession) financing.

/the government would insure the warranties

251 UncleRancher  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:23:39am

re: #248 Erik The Red

Karma: 31

UncleRancher

(Logged in)
Registered since: Feb 21, 2009 at 5:09 pm
No. of comments posted: 72
No. of links posted: 0

Yep, that's it. I misunderestimated myself.

252 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:24:52am

I just finished paying my monthly payroll taxes. Fuck I hate this day of the month.

253 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:25:17am

re: #247 UncleRancher

I think I'm up to about a dozen now. (new here)

72, but who's counting? ;)

I wish lounge lizard posts counted, I would be ahead of lots of folks! :(
And after all, isn't that what we should all be judged on, post counts?

254 TheMatrix31  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:25:49am

World Baseball Classic....woohoo!

255 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:26:08am

re: #234 ziggyelman

Ford sales in February were HALF what they were in February of 2008.

Ford's fine, as far as it goes.

/they're not even asking for government money

256 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:27:28am

re: #250 Killian Bundy

The government would provide the DIP (debtor-in-possession) financing.

/the government would insure the warranties

That's good to know....I think my friend was also talking about re-sale value, stigma of owning a car from a bankrupt company.
Of course, if all 3 went into bankruptcy at the same time...

257 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:27:34am

re: #253 ziggyelman

72, but who's counting? ;)

I wish lounge lizard posts counted, I would be ahead of lots of folks! :(
And after all, isn't that what we should all be judged on, post counts?

No body is judging anyone. Just kinda fun to see how active some Lizards are.

258 UncleRancher  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:29:16am

re: #252 Erik The Red

I just finished paying my monthly payroll taxes. Fuck I hate this day of the month.

You got that right. I hired a new graduate a couple of years ago. First paycheck, she looked at it and said "Where is all my money?" I went through the list, withholding, social security, Medicare, then the employer's portion on top of that. When I finished she was in tears.

259 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:29:34am

re: #255 Killian Bundy

Ford's fine, as far as it goes.

/they're not even asking for government money

But how long can they survive on half the business they used to do? I just don't see nicely paved roads convincing folks to buy a new car anytime soon, but I could be wrong....

260 UncleRancher  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:32:40am

(background music) See the USA in your Chevrolet (sorry, I can't carry a tune). How many remember that one?

261 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:32:53am

re: #256 ziggyelman

That's good to know....I think my friend was also talking about re-sale value, stigma of owning a car from a bankrupt company.
Of course, if all 3 went into bankruptcy at the same time...

Actually, now CNBC is picking it apart.

/could be Chapter 7, liquidation

262 UncleRancher  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:33:52am

re: #259 ziggyelman

But how long can they survive on half the business they used to do? I just don't see nicely paved roads convincing folks to buy a new car anytime soon, but I could be wrong....

Right now I would be REALLY happy with half the business I had two years ago. I would be singing!

263 littleoldlady  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:37:20am

re: #261 Killian Bundy

Actually, now CNBC is picking it apart.

/could be Chapter 7, liquidation

What? How? What do they liquidate?

/who owns the cars at the dealerships? The dealers or the car companies?

264 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:40:06am

re: #263 littleoldlady

What? How? What do they liquidate?

/who owns the cars at the dealerships? The dealers or the car companies?

Good question, could be a bluff.

/you'd think the UAW, bond holders, and dealers would be cooperating instead of playing Chicken

265 tappin52  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:41:04am

re: #178 Scorch

With regard to the Mexican police, we have friends who were vacationing in Mexico driving around in a rental car while Mrs. Friend was video taping the trip. At an intersection, a motorcycle cop ran the light and got hit by Mr. Friend's car (he was ok). They were taken to the police station and were about to get 'questioned' when Mrs. Friend discovered that she had the event on tape. The police tried to persuade Mrs. Friend to hand over the tape to them, which she refused to do. They were eventually let go but they had to pay $800 cash for damage to the car.

266 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:43:28am

Two words.

/not good

267 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:45:57am

There they go!

/U.S. market futures rolling over, DJIA minus triple digits

268 littleoldlady  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:48:14am

re: #264 Killian Bundy

I think the UAW already agreed to take some of their pension in stock (?)

269 TheMatrix31  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:52:05am

re: #267 Killian Bundy

There they go!

/U.S. market futures rolling over, DJIA minus triple digits

Any specific news that came out that caused the drop? Last time I saw, they were down about 30.

270 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:53:08am

re: #267 Killian Bundy

There they go!

/U.S. market futures rolling over, DJIA minus triple digits

There goes my vacation. Oh wait I already canceled that. OK, there goes the good scotch. Shit!

271 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:53:22am

re: #106 Benthoven
Your story is on Some gun legistlation on the books which failed in California. Obama praised the written legislation I linked the article that had it a couple weeks ago.

272 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:54:46am

Well, I've got to run. It's been such a pleasure have SUNSHINE every morning this week--the most all winter.

Take care, Lizards.

273 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:54:55am

Last update - 13:49 05/03/2009

Terror in the capital

Tractor driver rams police car and bus in Jerusalem

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

There is something about tractors and Jerusalem. Or maybe it's just a Muslim thing?

274 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:56:46am

re: #269 TheMatrix31

Any specific news that came out that caused the drop? Last time I saw, they were down about 30.

The GM 10K, but that was like an hour ago. China didn't officially announce a stimulus package.

/just started down, got steadily worse, now off the lows, down 90

275 littleoldlady  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:57:14am

I'm not finding a definitive answer, but I'm thinking the dealers own the cars. That's not good. Inventory is "stuck" at the dealership, and then what kind of assets to the car companies have? Physical plants?

The solution is to stimulate demand. Bailing out the car companies is a never-ending money pit if cars aren't selling.

276 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:57:49am

re: #271 Rustler

Your story is on Some gun legistlation on the books which failed in California. Obama praised the written legislation I linked the article that had it a couple weeks ago.

Shit Rustler where where a hour or 2 ago?

277 littleoldlady  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:58:21am

re: #273 Nevergiveup

OY. :-(

278 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:59:30am

Interesting graphs here and in the links:
Comparative casualty footprints of major conflicts. How many people in the DRC have to die before it is reported in the NY Times?

279 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:00:17am

re: #269 TheMatrix31

Any specific news that came out that caused the drop? Last time I saw, they were down about 30.

"Obama still President."

280 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:00:52am

re: #276 Erik The Red

Shit Rustler where where a hour or 2 ago?

/would have saved a lot of trouble

281 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:00:53am

{littleoldlady}
Good morning ma'am!

282 yesandno  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:02:56am

The Obama-nation is an Obamanation...............

283 littleoldlady  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:03:09am

{My Rove}! :-)

If only we'd formed our new party 4+ years ago! :-/

/where IS Roger, btw?

284 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:03:33am

re: #276 Erik The Red Legs not working well today did'nt have much oppurtunity to play tonight. As far as I know all the serial ammo legistation washed out. I was given shit for it a couple weeks ago when I brought it up.

285 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:06:20am

re: #283 littleoldlady Roger?
You've confused me. Not that that is hard to do.

286 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:07:41am

Good morning Lizards!
I'm up early, even for me - there any fruit cup left?

287 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:07:51am

OK, here's a (very old) puzzler. Punctuate this:
John where James had had had had had had had had had had been correct.

288 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:09:37am
John, where James had had had had had had had had had had been correct.

re: #287 Jim in Virginia

289 UncleRancher  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:10:09am

re: #287 Jim in Virginia

OK, here's a (very old) puzzler. Punctuate this:
John where James had had had had had had had had had had been correct.

Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo. (a complete sentence)

290 littleoldlady  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:10:10am

re: #285 Jim in Virginia

You don't remember Roger? He, you and realwest, were my campaign/cabinet folks when I was running for President in 2004.

/well yeah, it was a small group but think of what we would have saved on salaries and benefits!

291 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:11:09am

Michelle Obama rocks the bureaucracy with her star quality

It’s 7:00 a.m., and the line is already forming outside the Environmental Protection Agency. The attraction? First lady Michelle Obama, who is due to appear before an audience of EPA employees late in the morning – a crowd that would swell to 1,100, the White House said.

One by one, Mrs. Obama is dropping by federal agencies around Washington to give a pep talk and dispense hugs, a gesture that has sent local Obamamania in only one direction: Up.

Oh yeah, I forgot, last night was the weekly party night at the White House.

/something about doing the Conga while the stock markets burn

292 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:11:38am

Gosh, it's sunrise in the everglades, alligators are growling, and the birds are squawking, insects are humming, crickets are chirping...

I can't sleep with all this noise!

293 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:12:35am

re: #284 Rustler

Legs not working well today did'nt have much oppurtunity to play tonight. As far as I know all the serial ammo legistation washed out. I was given shit for it a couple weeks ago when I brought it up.

I didn't bring it up. I just remember reading about it and got caught in the middle. No worries.

294 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:13:11am

re: #210 Buster Bunny

Morning Buster! Thank you for posting that link. That is some scary stuff.

295 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:14:07am

re: #292 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Morning FBV, you can't sleep either? I woke up pretty early today and am drowning my sorrows in coffee.

296 3 wood  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:14:39am

Good morning.

Look for another major sell off in the market in the next few days as the futures are pointing down, GM's auditor has said that they doubt the ability of GM to continue,very bad unemployment numbers are likely to be announced tomorrow, and even the likes of Chrissey Matthews have written off Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner as a clueless twit.

297 Buster Bunny  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:16:34am

re: #294 Chicago Blonde

Morning Buster! Thank you for posting that link. That is some scary stuff.

Thanks Chicago Blonde. As I wrote earlier, I'd prefer it to be large amounts of humour dressed up as a website. If not, its a lot of people who seem inclined to create the 'ideal' society at ANY price.

Been there before u know. It doesnt work.

298 rightside  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:17:10am

Morning CB.

299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:17:20am

re: #296 3 wood

Mornin' Wood...

Initially, IIRC, the "street" was pretty jazzed about Geithner. Am I mis-remembering?

300 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:18:00am

I had lunch with 2 of my unmarried friends. One is engaged, the other is a
mistress, and of course I have been married for 20+ years.

We were chatting about our relationships and decided to amaze our partners
by wearing a black leather bra, stiletto heels and a mask over our eyes. We
agreed to meet in a few days to exchange notes. Here's how it all went.

My engaged friend: The other night when my boyfriend came over he found me
with a black leather bodice, tall stilettos and a mask. He saw me and said,
'You are the woman of my dreams. I love you' and we made love all night long.

The mistress: Me too! The other night I met my lover at his office and I
was wearing the leather bodice and heels under a raincoat and the mask over
my eyes. When I opened the raincoat he didn't say a word, but we had wild
sex all night.

Then I shared my story: When my husband came home I was wearing the
leather bodice, black stockings, stilettos and a mask over my eyes. As soon
as he came in the door and saw me he said,

'What's for dinner, Batman?"

301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:18:16am

HOT DIGGITY DAMN!

COWBOYS DROP OWENS!
COWBOYS DROP OWENS!

302 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:18:58am

Psychiatric Hotline

If you are obsessive-compulsive, please press 1 repeatedly.

If you are co-dependent, please ask someone to press 2.

If you have multiple personalities, please press 3, 4, 5, and 6.

If you are paranoid-delusional, we know who you are and what you want.
Just stay on the line so we can trace the call.

If you are schizophrenic, listen carefully and a little voice will tell
you which number to press.

If you are manic-depressive, it doesn't matter which number you press. No
one will answer.

303 Buster Bunny  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:19:08am

re: #296 3 wood

I dont understand. At least in Nazi Germany .. you had people running the show who were bad but they made great speeches. This is a house of cards with a lunatic running the asylum. And no-one is buying the speeches.

304 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:19:35am

re: #297 Buster Bunny

As I wrote earlier, I'd prefer it to be large amounts pathetic attempts of humour dressed up as a website. If not, its a lot of people who seem inclined to create the 'ideal' society at ANY price.

FTFY. :)

I know - it never worked before and never ever will. I thought I was the only "nerd" who felt like her history classes were kind of shallow till I came here and heard the same from other Lizards.

305 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:21:13am

re: #303 Buster Bunny

What I am finding funny is that in my job, I get to go to democrats and republicans houses. So far, every house I have been to with an Obama Poster/framed picture/etc has been a credit reject.

Every single one.

306 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:21:14am

re: #298 rightside

Morning Rightside! How are you this foggy morning?

307 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:21:25am

John, where James had had "had", had had "had had". "Had had" had been correct.

308 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:22:40am

About the Serial ammo stuff currently on Factcheck(it is still good for some things.)

Such a proposal is being pushed by a company that holds a patent on bullet-coding technology. But none of the 31 bills introduced last year ever made it out of committee.

The legislation for serial encoded ammo has been initiated on all fronts by a 3 person company which holds hte patent for the tech to encode the ammo. Last year I was able to find sales figures for was 1992 with approximately 5.2 billion rounds sold for private(non law enforcement, and military) use. At 5 cents per round tax on the ammo proposed plus what ever the 3 owners of the tech will recieve for the encoded rounds it looks like ammo prices can get nasty. Fortuneately most states won't ever get teh number to pass such legislation and it is unlikely that Obama will be able to get it passed nationally.

309 rightside  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:23:48am

re: #306 Chicago Blonde

Splendiferous as always. Almost done for the day. You?

310 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:23:58am

re: #293 Erik The Red
No worries was just trying to give a heads up before folks started getting rabid about it.

311 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:24:11am

re: #290 littleoldlady
I recall nonic was involved but Roger has slipped my mind.

312 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:24:44am

re: #309 rightside

Just waking up and settling in with coffee. Cat isn't even up yet. :)

313 littleoldlady  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:25:27am

re: #311 Jim in Virginia

Nah. nonic has much more sense than that. ;-)

314 UncleRancher  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:26:00am

Got to go feed the animals. It's been fun. Cheers.

315 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:27:02am

re: #308 Rustler
I should say last year I found estimates on number of rounds sold rather than revenue rather.

316 Buster Bunny  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:27:27am

re: #305 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What I am finding funny is that in my job, I get to go to democrats and republicans houses. So far, every house I have been to with an Obama Poster/framed picture/etc has been a credit reject.

Every single one.

I can understand their thinking. They want to live life beyond their means and have someone else pay for it. Thats how a really poor person thinks. He lives it up, he overspends and he claims he isnt liable for it. What he doesnt understand is that the rich person relies on his trust .. his knowledge base and his reputation (credit history) to make him move forward and become more wealthy. Oh yes .. he also works.

What O offers is an easy way out. And there isnt and there has never been the easy way out. But it wasnt as bad until he stepped into the chair.

317 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:27:33am

Morning LittleOldLady! :) Nice to "meet" you!
And your avatar looks wonderful, just the thing with my coffee.

318 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:27:43am

re: #291 Killian Bundy

Michelle Obama rocks the bureaucracy with her star quality Can you say, "Juan and Eva Peron"?

We are all shirtless now.


Time to head to work. Play safe y'all.

Oh yeah, I forgot, last night was the weekly party night at the White House.

/something about doing the Conga while the stock markets burn

319 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:28:07am

re: #310 Rustler

No worries was just trying to give a heads up before folks started getting rabid about it.

Not quite to sure why they are getting rabid about this. If the tech. is available I would be very worried. Some moonbat politician will try and run with this. It may fail, for now, but all it takes is one city/state to put this into law and others will follow. Il. already has it as House Bills.

320 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:28:26am

re: #316 Buster Bunny

Every time I hear about that bus driver with the $800K house I feel my blood pressure creep up...

321 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:29:04am

GE bid is at $6.43 in premarket. Given the value of the industrial divisions, that's just flat out ridiculous.

/but what do I care, I've owned it forever and my basis is $3.35

322 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:29:39am

re: #316 Buster Bunny What he offers is a short term easy way out. Despite all his claims to looking at the bigger picture the man looks at a painting and only sees an individual speck of paint that looks good and take that to mean the whole picture looks good.

323 3 wood  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:29:52am

re: #299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mornin' Wood...

Initially, IIRC, the "street" was pretty jazzed about Geithner. Am I mis-remembering?

They were hopeful, cause he was being advertised as this up-and-coming genius.

Now he has been shown to be a clueless joke, and tax cheat, and has no answers.

324 littleoldlady  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:30:52am

re: #317 Chicago Blonde

Chicago Blonde. Howdy! :-)

/have some fruitcup!

325 3 wood  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:31:37am

re: #303 Buster Bunny

And no-one is buying the speeches.

The MSM still is. Watch how nasty they get when someone criticizes their idol.

326 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:32:08am

I am still debating if I should cash out my 401K and take a big penalty, or leave it, but risk Blinky and co. deciding Octomom needs it more.

*fume*

327 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:32:37am

re: #324 littleoldlady

Thank you!
A good fruitcup makes everything better.

328 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:32:40am

re: #319 Erik The Red
Tech is available has been for a couple years and all 31 times it's been introduced it's been shut down. Last august Obama was talking it up as Illinois tryed to pass it but it failed. He also had plans in December and january to introduce it nationally but never sent forth the legislation. Unless he manages to slip it in hte Porkulous or new bailout I seriously doubt he will get it passed. Even California has rejected it think it's 2 or 3 times now. Washington state likewise rejected it(Seattle based company owns the patent.)

329 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:33:47am

re: #326 Chicago Blonde

I am still debating if I should cash out my 401K and take a big penalty, or leave it, but risk Blinky and co. deciding Octomom needs it more.

*fume*

/it's way too late to cah out now

330 3 wood  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:33:53am

re: #321 Killian Bundy

GE bid is at $6.43 in premarket. Given the value of the industrial divisions, that's just flat out ridiculous.

/but what do I care, I've owned it forever and my basis is $3.35

The Street perceives some toxic stuff on GE's books due to their financing activities in the past, and the fact that Immelt cannot tell the truth.

331 littleoldlady  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:34:14am

re: #327 Chicago Blonde

Especially in a chocolate-rimmed sugar cone "basket".

/thanks to freetoken

:-)

332 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:34:33am

Gotta love this new era of transparent Government. They let us see the Legislation before they vote on it but with all new bills coming forth with hundreds of pages of unrelated fluff it's impossible to see exactly what is being proposed.

333 littleoldlady  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:34:53am

24,000! :-)

Good day, ALL!™

334 3 wood  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:35:05am

re: #326 Chicago Blonde

If you are at least 10 years away from retirement, ride it out.

We will eventually recover from having a Marxist in the White House.

335 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:35:19am

re: #326 Chicago Blonde
Don't cash out yet as long as you haven't sold it you haven't lost anything yet.

336 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:36:33am

re: #331 littleoldlady
re: #334 3 wood
re: #335 Rustler

Food and finance advice. Thanks guys!

337 3 wood  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:36:36am

re: #305 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What I am finding funny is that in my job, I get to go to democrats and republicans houses. So far, every house I have been to with an Obama Poster/framed picture/etc has been a credit reject.

Every single one.

Watch out for the reaction of these people as they realize that the object of their worship is a fraud.

338 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:37:54am

Good Morning Lizards!

I am at work and my wife just called me. Our almost three year old daughter was watching something on Nickelodeon this morning when some story they have been running lately about Obama came on. IIRC it talks about how historic it is that he was elected blah blah blah. My daughter then said, completely unprompted by my wife, "Me no like Obama." I am so proud. She is a smart little girl, if I do say so myself. :-)

339 3 wood  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:37:58am

Got to get ready for work.

There are a lot of deadbeats out there that I have to support now.

340 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:39:28am

re: #330 3 wood

The Street perceives some toxic stuff on GE's books due to their financing activities in the past, and the fact that Immelt cannot tell the truth.

/no doubt that GE Capital is the main drag along with GE's "aggressive" accounting, but GE still makes locomotives, jet engines, and water desalination infrastructure, among other large, expensive tangible things

341 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:39:52am

re: #335 Rustler

I appreciate that. Watching it shrink after I've done nothing irresponsible is like eating nothing but rice cakes and veggies, going to the gym, and still gaining 30 lbs.
Silly analogy, but the best I can do so far.

342 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:40:22am

re: #338 Ford_Prefect

Morning Ford! That made me smile.

343 Crux Australis  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:40:28am

Greetings from Sydney, Australia. I do believe autumn is here, as soon as the sun sets you can feel a noticeable drop in temperature. Not long before I start raking and sweeping leaves.

The Australian Stock Market had a temporary reprieve today but it is expected to go down further. How far will it go? No one knows.

344 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:40:36am

re: #334 3 wood

If you are at least 10 years away from retirement, ride it out.

We will eventually recover from having a Marxist in the White House.

That brings up a question that I have about my wife's 401k. She has the opportunity to change where the money in her 401k is every quarter. Right now she is in the categories that have lost the most money. Should she move it to the more stable categories for now, or could that mean that we will miss out on the rebound profits?

345 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:41:06am

re: #341 Chicago Blonde
Yeah makes you want to quit the diet and sit at home screw the gym. But as long as you haven't sold yet you really haven't lost anything like wood said if you have the time before retirement ride it out.

346 Mithrax  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:41:18am

GM's good news for the day

You know, I was an idiot to take a job in a Company town. Not auto related, but man, it's gonna suck when she goes.

347 Joo-LiZ  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:41:44am

re: #273 Nevergiveup

Last update - 13:49 05/03/2009

Terror in the capital

Tractor driver rams police car and bus in Jerusalem

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

There is something about tractors and Jerusalem. Or maybe it's just a Muslim thing?

It's both relieving and sad to see how effective Israeli CITIZENS have gotten at nipping these attacks in the butt, and taking out the driver.

348 Mithrax  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:44:44am

I just had a lightbulb moment (which means everyone else figured it out hours ago :P).

The only reason Chavez is nationalizing the food companies now, is because Bush would never have let him get away with it when he was in office. Man, the rest of the world is gonna have a field day in doing whatever they want now.

349 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:44:57am

re: #345 Rustler

I have time. It's the principle of the thing, it makes me so angry. *sigh* But I won't do anything crazy.

/Not quitting the gym either with the health "care" we've got coming.

350 Pullus Iulius  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:45:36am

re: #334 3 wood

If you are at least 10 years away from retirement, ride it out.

We used to think retirement was less than 10 years off. Looks like I'm going to have to go out feet first, now.

351 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:45:47am

re: #342 Chicago Blonde

Morning Ford! That made me smile.

Morning to you. I think that will make me smile all day. Can't wait to get home and give her a big hug. I will be curious to see if her Daycare provider says anything to me when I pick her up. We love her, but she is definitely a lib. I wonder if our daughter will say anything while she is there.

352 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:47:05am

Morning all. They just can't seem to let it go.

Where's Palin's $150G Wardrobe? RNC Doesn't Say

PDS at Fox no less.

353 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:49:14am

re: #351 Ford_Prefect

That should be interesting if her daycare provider is a Lib.

I had an art teacher that was a lib, but she was sweet. We had to write an artist statement and everyone wrote profound stuff about changing the world with their art, blah blah. I wrote that I wanted my art to make people smile, and if I got some money for it, great. The teacher knew where I was coming from!

/If all libs were like that we wouldn't be in so much trouble...

354 VioletTiger  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:49:53am

Good morning everyone. How are you doing today?

Going to the Philadelphia flower show this morning. A little bit of spring--just need to get through one stupid teleconference first.

355 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:50:30am

re: #352 Bubblehead II

Of course! They have to distract us from the financial trouble we're in.

356 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:51:08am

re: #347 Joo-LiZ

It's both relieving and sad to see how effective Israeli CITIZENS have gotten at nipping these attacks in the butt, and taking out the driver.

Yes, but sad that they have had to developed such a proficiency?

357 opnion  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:51:12am

Good morning. Great news! I have successfully navigated the perp walk through airport security.

358 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:51:14am

re: #354 VioletTiger

Morning! I actually got a violet yesterday, a pretty striated thing with white and purple blossoms.

359 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:51:32am

re: #346 Mithrax

GM's good news for the day

You know, I was an idiot to take a job in a Company town. Not auto related, but man, it's gonna suck when she goes.

If you ask me, filing for bankruptcy is what they should have done instead of taking taxpayer money. At least that way the unions would have been forced to do some real negotiation. Without some serious give backs from the unions I don't see how GM, or any of the big 3 will survive long term. And I just don't see the unions doing that without having to.

360 VioletTiger  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:51:56am

re: #338 Ford_Prefect

Smart baby lizards!
My 'baby' is 18, but she knows a moonbat when she see one.

361 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:53:22am

re: #357 opnion

Good morning. Great news! I have successfully navigated the perp walk through airport security.

Careful, if they see you are on lgf they may decide to strip search you.

362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:53:25am

re: #330 3 wood

Jeffery's gotta go. My dad "had" a fortune in GE Stock....

363 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:54:21am

re: #361 Ford_Prefect

*opening the laptop*

364 VioletTiger  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:54:41am

re: #358 Chicago Blonde

Morning! I actually got a violet yesterday, a pretty striated thing with white and purple blossoms.


Sounds beautiful. I will surely buy a few at the show today. Look up the African Violet Society of America for growing tips.

365 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:55:21am

WASHINGTON (AFP) – Actor and comedian Robin Williams has postponed four upcoming stand-up performances for health reason, with US media reporting Thursday that he has been hospitalised with heart problems.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

OK, so I'm only a Dentist, but I heard that using a boat load of illicit drugs can do that to ya?

366 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:55:23am

Most Britons have lied about the books they read

LONDON (Reuters) – Two out of three Britons have lied about reading books they have not, and George Orwell's "1984" tops the literary fib list, according to a survey published on Thursday.

Those who lied have claimed to have read:

1. 1984 - George Orwell (42 percent)

2. War and Peace - Leo Tolstoy (31)

3. Ulysses - James Joyce (25)

4. The Bible (24)

5. Madame Bovary - Gustave Flaubert (16)

6. A Brief History of Time - Stephen Hawking (15)

7. Midnight's Children - Salman Rushdie (14)

8. In Remembrance of Things Past - Marcel Proust (9)

9. Dreams from My Father - Barack Obama (6)

10. The Selfish Gene - Richard Dawkins (6)

Better get started on #1 there, Mr. Brown.
Morning, lizardia. Hope the day finds you well.

367 opnion  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:55:31am

re: #361 Ford_Prefect

Careful, if they see you are on lgf they may decide to strip search you.


Damn your right! The paranoia is now setting in. My look of guilt will probably attract a swat team of alert TSA commandos.
Nah, I'm safe.

368 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:57:30am

From the Obama forums I hope it's a damn joke nut I can see it happening.

Sharon Jasper has been victimized. She has been rabidly wronged.

She has become a Section 8 carcass. The victim of ever changing public housing policies. Sharon Jasper has spent 57 or her 58 years dedicated to one cause and one cause only and has nothing to show for her dedicated servitude. She has lived in Section 8 housing all but 1 of her 58 years.

It was a legacy passed down from her parents who moved into Section 8 housing in 1949 when she was six months old. She has passed the legacy down to her children, but fears they may have to get jobs to pay for the utilities and deposits.

She laments about her one year hiatus from the comfort of her Section 8 nirvana, ' I tried it for a year, you know, working and all. It's not anything I would want to go through again, or wish on anyone in my family, but I am damn proud of that year.'

Sharon was moved out of her St. Bernard housing project after hurricane Katrina and into newly renovated, albeit substandard quarters. As can be noted from the above photo of her new Section 8 home, it is repugnant and not suitable for someone of Sharon Jasper's seniority status in the system. 'Don't be fooled by them hardwood floors,' says Sharon 'They told me they were putting in scraped wood floors cause it was more expensive and elegant, but I am not a fool-that was just a way to make me take scratched up wood because I am black.

The 60 inch HD TV? It may look nice but it is not plasma. It's not plasma because I'm black. Now they want me to pay a deposit and utilities on this dump.' 'Do you know why?'

She has held her tongue in silence through the years of abuse by the system, but it came to a head at the New Orleans city council meeting where discussions were under way about the tearing down of the St. Bernard projects. When a near riotous exchange between groups opposing the tearing down of St. Bernard and groups wanting the dilapidated buildings torn down and newer ones built, Sharon unleashed verbal hell with her once silenced tongue.

The object of her oratory prowess was an acquiescent poor white boy in attendance. The context of her scathing rebuke was, 'Just because you pay for my house, my car, my big screen and my food, I will not be treated like a slave!' and 'Back up and Shut up! Shut up, white boy! Shut up, white boy!'

Recapping from the mental log of the city council minutes in her head, Sharon repines, 'Our families have been displaced all over the United States. They are being forced to commit crimes in cities they are unfamiliar with. It is a very uncomfortable situation for them. Bring them back, then let's talk about redevelopment.'

Sharon directs the reporter's attention across the street to Duncan Plaza where homeless people are living in tents and states that, 'I might do better out there with one of these tents.' She further lamented her sentiments about her situation,' I might be poor, but I don't have to live poor.


Left off the Obama site from the original linked weblog is this

By the way, I looked her up in the FEMA system. Yes, she got the maximum of $26,200.
369 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:57:33am

Former first lady Barbara Bush is recovering at The Methodist Hospital after successful open-heart surgery Wednesday to replace her aortic valve, a family spokesman said Wednesday night.

[Link: www.chron.com...]

Best wishes to our Former First Lady.

370 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:58:41am

re: #362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Jeffery's gotta go.

How dare you! Blasphemy! You'll burn in hell for that utterance!

/he's on Obama's Economic Advisory Board

371 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 4:59:48am

For what it's worth I found this...

372 opnion  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:00:05am

Anybody watch Lou Dobbs last night? CNN cut in to cover the Dear Leader's opening remarks to guests at their regular Wednesday Soiree.
It's a dinner party & he has a lectern for himself!
Barry says that these parties are his gift to Michelle, because she works so hard. Say what? What does she do exactly? By accounts that I have heard she didn't work hard when she actually had a job.

373 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:00:18am

re: #371 Chicago Blonde

re: #368 Rustler

Sorry, it was a reply for Rustler's post

374 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:00:51am

re: #368 Rustler

Link?

375 monkeytime  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:01:11am

Liar and biggest fence sitter I've ever seen.

Clinton criticises Israeli breach of 'road map'

376 aussiemagpie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:01:37am

re: #343 Crux Australis

Greetings from Sydney, Australia. I do believe autumn is here, as soon as the sun sets you can feel a noticeable drop in temperature. Not long before I start raking and sweeping leaves.

The Australian Stock Market had a temporary reprieve today but it is expected to go down further. How far will it go? No one knows.

Hello Crux!
it really is a bit chilly tonight, but it was a really lovely autumn day wasn't it?

The future with the Labor Government heading this country is a frightening prospect - but as I'm a bit older than you I can say we survived those 18% interest rates and even earlier than that, the Whitlam aberration (not that I can really remember much about that, as it was party central for me back then)

Our worry at present is that we need to stay healthy as we both will be working for the next umpteen years because of the disappearance of our super funds

377 quickjustice  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:01:48am

So Treasury Secretary Geithner wants to round up international tax cheats, and eliminate tax breaks for domestic oil drilling. Since he's a domestic tax cheat, that gets him off the hook. And eliminating tax breaks for the oil and gas industry will reduce the incentives to find and produce more petroleum domestically, making us more dependent upon foreigners like Chavez in Venezuela, Putin in Russia, and the Saudis whose citizens attacked us for our oil.

Conclusion: Geithner wants to escape punishment for his tax cheating, tank our economy, and enslave us to foreigners.

378 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:02:07am

re: #371 Chicago Blonde

Thanks Chicago Blonde. Lol sad that there are real quotes in there and she has that TV while living in Section 8 housing tho.

379 quickjustice  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:02:43am

re: #354 VioletTiger

I'm going to the Orchid Show at N.Y. Botanical Garden this weekend!

380 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:02:50am

re: #372 opnion

Yes, I saw part of that while I was cooking dinner. Dobbs was questioning when we should stop blaming Bush and start looking at what Obama was doing with the economy. No wonder CNN interrupted him.

381 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:02:52am

re: #374 MandyManners
[Link: theobamaforum.com...] From post 210 above.

382 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:03:37am

re: #378 Rustler

You're welcome. :)

383 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:03:44am

re: #355 Chicago Blonde

Of course! They have to distract us from the financial trouble we're in.

Of from bambis hair (re)turning grey.

Obama Going Gray After 44 Days in White House

Now, iirc, wasn't it mentioned before the Election that bambi just might be dying his hair? If so, then it looks like he has stopped. On the other hand, if he wasn't and this is natural, the stress is going to break him before he finishes his first two years.

384 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:04:09am

re: #378 Rustler

That kind of smells like that post-Katrina picture of a bunch of folks on a rooftop with "Send Crack" in giant white letters on the roof.

Nuttin' personal, I think it's baloney.

385 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:04:11am

re: #371 Chicago Blonde

For what it's worth I found this...


Hhow many major hurricanes and other natural disasters have their been since Katrina?

/SUCK IT UP, WEAN YOURSELF, AND QUIT WHINING FOR MORE GOVERNMENT TEAT!

386 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:04:39am

re: #383 Bubblehead II

Of from bambis hair (re)turning grey.

Obama Going Gray After 44 Days in White House

Now, iirc, wasn't it mentioned before the Election that bambi just might be dying his hair? If so, then it looks like he has stopped. On the other hand, if he wasn't and this is natural, the stress is going to break him before he finishes his first two years.

*snort* Some of us are going gray after only 44 days of him too!

387 rightside  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:04:42am

re: #368 Rustler


Michelle Malkin has covered her before. A google search turns up some inconsistencies though.

388 VioletTiger  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:05:00am

re: #372 opnion

Anybody watch Lou Dobbs last night? CNN cut in to cover the Dear Leader's opening remarks to guests at their regular Wednesday Soiree.
It's a dinner party & he has a lectern for himself!
Barry says that these parties are his gift to Michelle, because she works so hard. Say what? What does she do exactly? By accounts that I have heard she didn't work hard when she actually had a job.


He's going to get a lot of criticism if he keeps this crap up. It 's ridiculous considering what is going on.

389 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:05:05am

I was bitching and moaning to my assistant as I was doing a Root Canal on a patient that they had given away all the donuts the other day. The patient just surprised us and just walked in with coffee and 12 donuts. Memo to all: Your Dentist will appreciate such kindness. Hint Hint!

390 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:05:14am

re: #386 Chicago Blonde

You'll have to change your nic...

391 Buster Bunny  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:05:37am

re: #383 Bubblehead II

Of from bambis hair (re)turning grey.

By the time he leaves the whitehouse, his hair will be white.

Wouldnt that be interesting .. the first Black President with White hair?

392 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:05:40am

re: #384 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yeah it does but check out the snopes article Chicago linked. Some of it is true it was just pieced together with random quotes of hers from city council meetings and the TV is real.

393 opnion  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:05:56am

re: #380 Chicago Blonde

Yes, I saw part of that while I was cooking dinner. Dobbs was questioning when we should stop blaming Bush and start looking at what Obama was doing with the economy. No wonder CNN interrupted him.

Excellent point. Obama said not one newsworthy thing. The cut in is just more of the Obama adulation. It seems like he is on TV all of the time.
I wonder will he reach a saturation point?

394 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:06:25am

re: #369 Nevergiveup

Thank you for posting that; I'll keep Barbara in my prayers.

395 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:06:27am

re: #392 Rustler

Then wow.

396 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:07:19am

re: #389 Nevergiveup

I was bitching and moaning to my assistant as I was doing a Root Canal on a patient that they had given away all the donuts the other day. The patient just surprised us and just walked in with coffee and 12 donuts. Memo to all: Your Dentist will appreciate such kindness. Hint Hint!

/mmm, root canal

397 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:07:22am

re: #390 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nuh-uh! Behold, the miracle of Clairol!

/Hey, you got any cake?

398 opnion  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:08:10am

re: #388 VioletTiger

He's going to get a lot of criticism if he keeps this crap up. It 's ridiculous considering what is going on.

Yes, he is fear mongering, spreading doom & gloom, while partying hard on the taxpayer dime.

399 rightside  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:08:10am

re: #389 Nevergiveup

Are you one of the four out of five dentists who recommend sugarless gum, to their patients who chew gum?

/Trident

400 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:08:14am

re: #396 Killian Bundy

/mmm, root canal

Is that how you do it?
/

401 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:08:29am

re: #371 Chicago Blonde

For what it's worth I found this...

Un-friggin'-believable.

402 VioletTiger  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:08:32am

re: #379 quickjustice

I'm going to the Orchid Show at N.Y. Botanical Garden this weekend!

Lucky. I have a cattlaya in bloom now, along with lots of phals.

403 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:09:06am

re: #399 rightside

Are you one of the four out of five dentists who recommend sugarless gum, to their patients who chew gum?

/Trident

I recommend you sleep all night with real sugar in your mouth?
/

404 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:09:23am

re: #395 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Found it just taking peeks at random threads in the Obamaforums wasn't aware she musta been almost as big a celeb as octomom in her day lol. Maybe Octomom will go to the wayside just as fast. I hope she made enough these last couple weeks of media circus to raise the kids without our help tho.

405 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:10:06am

re: #393 opnion

Some days I don't think it will reach media saturation. What I think will happen is more and more of us "little people" will see what's going on and come to places like LGF, get involved in politics etc.

406 quickjustice  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:10:09am

re: #381 Rustler

The current post on the Obama Forum has to be parody: "[Sharon Jasper] has become a Section 8 carcass. The victim of ever changing public housing policies. Sharon Jasper has spent 57 or her 58 years dedicated to one cause and one cause only and has nothing to show for her dedicated servitude. She has lived in Section 8 housing all but 1 of her 58 years.

It was a legacy passed down from her parents who moved into Section 8 housing in 1949 when she was six months old. She has passed the legacy down to her children, but fears they may have to get jobs to pay for the utilities and deposits.

She laments about her one year hiatus from the comfort of her Section 8 nirvana, ' I tried it for a year, you know, working and all. It's not anything I would want to go through again, or wish on anyone in my family, but I am damn proud of that year.'

Sharon was moved out of her St. Bernard housing project after hurricane Katrina and into newly renovated, albeit substandard quarters. As can be noted from the above photo of her new Section 8 home, it is repugnant and not suitable for someone of Sharon Jasper's seniority status in the system. 'Don't be fooled by them hardwood floors,' says Sharon 'They told me they were putting in scraped wood floors cause it was more expensive and elegant, but I am not a fool-that was just a way to make me take scratched up wood because I am black.

The 60 inch HD TV? It may look nice but it is not plasma. It's not plasma because I'm black. Now they want me to pay a deposit and utilities on this dump.' 'Do you know why?'"

LMAO!

407 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:10:42am

re: #381 Rustler

[Link: theobamaforum.com...] From post 210 above.

It's gotta' be a joke. No one is that entitled. Please?

408 opnion  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:10:57am

Well, some good news. Teddy Kennedy is going to be Knighted by the Queen of England.
Goes to show, that good things happen to good people.
Mary Jo Kopechne is unavailable for comment.

409 quickjustice  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:11:08am

re: #402 VioletTiger

Cattlaya? Perfume! ;-)

410 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:11:33am

re: #396 Killian Bundy

/mmm, root canal

NOOOOOOOO. KB.

411 ThinkRight  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:11:46am

re: #368 Rustler

From the Obama forums I hope it's a damn joke nut I can see it happening.


It is not a joke
That in a nutshell is what we are heading for nationally and globally.
Kinda makes me think that no matter what we do it can never be fixed,
The entitlement mentality can't be fixed

412 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:12:00am

re: #386 Chicago Blonde

Well right now mine is having a race. Graying v Balding. Balding seem to have a slight lead. :-)

413 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:12:10am

re: #371 Chicago Blonde

For what it's worth I found this...

That snopes story was way too vague for them. Why no links to the original story the photo was from? I guess I will need to dig to get some answers for myself....why can't the government do that for me? ;)

414 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:12:21am

Good Morning All. Chicago Blond that woman has an awfully big TV set for a section 8 recipient.

I am listening to Fox in the morning. They are pointing out the lack of confidence in Obama. I wonder if the other networks are treating it this way?
I can only stomach CNN for as much as watching Lou Dobbs.

415 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:12:34am

re: #400 Nevergiveup

Is that how you do it?
/

No he is more like this.

416 Joo-LiZ  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:12:55am

re: #356 Nevergiveup

Exactly....

These attacks do NOTHING but harm Arab citizen employment prospects.

417 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:13:03am

re: #378 Rustler

Thanks Chicago Blonde. Lol sad that there are real quotes in there and she has that TV while living in Section 8 housing tho.

Here are real articles at MM about Ms. Jasper.

418 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:13:51am

re: #417 reine.de.tout

re: #417 reine.de.tout

Hi Reine, hope you are doing better.

419 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:13:51am

re: #401 Ford_Prefect

I've never wanted to rely on anyone else. For one thing, how can you trust them to do what's best for you?

420 opnion  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:14:04am

re: #405 Chicago Blonde

Some days I don't think it will reach media saturation. What I think will happen is more and more of us "little people" will see what's going on and come to places like LGF, get involved in politics etc.

Then it's me, I think that his exposure is already over done. It also increases opportunities for gaffes, like his Market tips.

421 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:14:08am

re: #413 ziggyelman

That snopes story was way too vague for them. Why no links to the original story the photo was from? I guess I will need to dig to get some answers for myself....why can't the government do that for me? ;)

See: re: #417 reine.de.tout

422 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:14:54am

re: #416 Joo-LiZ

Exactly....

These attacks do NOTHING but harm Arab citizen employment prospects.

But Hilliary wants Israel just to turn the other cheek? And we Jews are running out of cheeks.

423 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:14:59am

re: #418 Afrocity

re: #417 reine.de.tout

Hi Reine, hope you are doing better.

I'm doing OK, thanks!
Hope you're doing better, as well!
Went back and read thru some threads and saw you had some excitement last night with Zirkle.

424 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:15:05am

re: #407 MandyManners

It's gotta' be a joke. No one is that entitled. Please?

If it is a joke somebody has gone to great lengths with that web site.

425 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:16:10am

re: #414 Afrocity

Morning Afrocity, are you feeling better today?
I think it's a parody since it was on Snopes. I have a cousin that sends me every "oh-my-GAWD-don't-use-sunblock-and-eat-ketchup-or-you'll-DIE!" type email so I've bookmarked Snopes. :)

426 quickjustice  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:16:14am

re: #408 opnion

It means Teddy Kennedy's on his last legs, Gordon Brown has been publicly insulted and demeaned by Obama, and the Brits are frantically looking for a backdoor into the Democratic Party. Teddy will be room temperature soon, and unable to embarrass himself, the Democratic Party, and the British government further.

427 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:16:18am

re: #391 Buster Bunny

Well I give him two years before it turns totally grey and he burns out from the stress.

428 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:16:22am

re: #423 reine.de.tout

I'm doing OK, thanks!
Hope you're doing better, as well!
Went back and read thru some threads and saw you had some excitement last night with Zirkle.

Yes, it is 7:15am here in Chicago. At 9am I am making some calls.

429 ThinkRight  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:16:28am

re: #407 MandyManners

It's gotta' be a joke. No one is that entitled. Please?


I wouldn't take that bet

430 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:16:56am

re: #424 Erik The Red

If it is a joke somebody has gone to great lengths with that web site.

Considering how provocative it is, I wouldn't be surprised if it is a farce.

431 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:17:45am

re: #428 Afrocity

Yes, it is 7:15am here in Chicago. At 9am I am making some calls.

Keep us posted.

432 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:18:19am

re: #410 Erik The Red

NOOOOOOOO. KB.

Watch it, you won't fear it if you ever need it.

/that said, two minute electric brushing upper and lower, floss, intra dental brush, gum stimulator, rinse, should take at least 15 minutes daily

433 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:18:32am

re: #425 Chicago Blonde

Okay, I thought it was a real story. The first thing I saw was that gigantic TV. I was thinking that she is living as good as I am.

The cold is much better today.

434 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:18:36am

re: #429 ThinkRight

I wouldn't take that bet

I don't buy it.

435 opnion  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:18:43am

re: #426 quickjustice

It means Teddy Kennedy's on his last legs, Gordon Brown has been publicly insulted and demeaned by Obama, and the Brits are frantically looking for a backdoor into the Democratic Party. Teddy will be room temperature soon, and unable to embarrass himself, the Democratic Party, and the British government further.

You know, I am no fan of Teddy, but I hate to see what is happening to him. That diagnosis never has a good outcome.

436 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:19:05am

re: #412 Bubblehead II

Well right now mine is having a race. Graying v Balding. Balding seem to have a slight lead. :-)

I'm just tearing mine out...

437 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:19:14am

Here's a link to an interesting article about the state of things in Euroland...

And what of the impact on the euro of the imploding financial states of Ireland, Greece, and Italy? This is the really big story. Until the last few weeks, almost no one has been prepared to even speculate that the euro might collapse. But it is suddenly the topic of a thousand “counterfactual” scenarios.

The scenarios are especially counterfactual in this case, because almost no one has any idea of what a collapse of the euro would look like. What would actually happen? How would the mark, the franc, and the Dutch guilder be reborn? Would anyone accept Greek drachmas and Irish punts the day afterwards?

There are precedents for the collapse of a monetary union. One is almost eerie — the Latin Monetary Union, established in 1865. It was composed of France, Italy, Belgium, Switzerland, Austria-Hungary, Greece, and Spain — today’s Euroland without Germany, essentially — and collapsed in 1927. Its collapse, however, seems to have been relatively peaceful, even uneventful, because it had gradually been eroded by the dramatic political events of the early 20th century. The euro’s collapse would be nothing like that.

It would have been far wiser if the European political elites had embarked in more tranquil times on one of two reforms — either a liberalization of Europe’s economic and political structures that would return power and decision-making to national governments while maintaining Europe’s “four freedoms” in its single market, or the open establishment of a political union that could take the decisions needed to make a monetary union work. But they regarded the first kind of reform as anathema, and they lacked the guts to present the second kind of reform candidly to Europe’s various peoples. Now such decisions will be hammered out on the anvil of crisis.

At the risk of betraying my ignorance can someone tell me what counterfactual means in this context?

438 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:19:16am

re: #430 MandyManners

Considering how provocative it is, I wouldn't be surprised if it is a farce.

It is a farce.
See the real deal re: Ms. Jasper here.re: #417 reine.de.tout

The real deal is provocative enough - it didn't need embellishment.

439 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:19:21am

re: #407 MandyManners
Half joke according to snopes. Chicago blonde linked the snopes investigation around 370.

440 opnion  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:19:42am

re: #430 MandyManners

Considering how provocative it is, I wouldn't be surprised if it is a farce.


It sounds like a parody.

441 abaleh  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:19:50am

re: #422 Nevergiveup

But Hilliary wants Israel just to turn the other cheek? And we Jews are running out of cheeks.

Another example of simple bad driving and Jooish overreaction.

//

442 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:20:35am

re: #433 Afrocity

Okay, I thought it was a real story. The first thing I saw was that gigantic TV. I was thinking that she is living as good as I am.

The cold is much better today.

Oh, that TV does belong to Ms. Jasper.
See my link here re: #417 reine.de.tout for the real story.

443 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:20:53am

re: #430 MandyManners

Considering how provocative it is, I wouldn't be surprised if it is a farce.


Maybe that post but the whole site?

444 MandyManners  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:21:04am

Gotta' get the day rolling for The Kid. bbl

445 Crux Australis  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:21:08am

re: #376 aussiemagpie

I remember Prime Minister Paul Keating's recession back in the early 1990s as I graduated high school in 1989. It took me 15 months to find my first full-time job. If the March Quarter is negative then Australia will be in recession for the first time since 1990. Whenever Australia elects charismatic Prime Ministers like Whitlam and Keating the economy goes down and Australia suffers. Strange, dont you think?

446 DaddyG  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:21:17am

re: #333 littleoldlady

24,000! :-)

Good day, ALL!™

Congratulations! Or should I say condolences?

447 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:21:46am

re: #433 Afrocity
((Afrocity))
Glad the cold is better. I usually get my annual thing in November. Mr. Blonde gets his in February.
*sigh* Why aren't we where it's warm & sunny?

448 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:22:00am

Well, found this blog story about poor, poor Sharon Jasper. Near the bottom of the page. Seems this ultra liberal blogger sees her as a victim(surprise, surprise)
[Link: darwinbondgraham.blogspot.com...]

449 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:22:03am

re: #425 Chicago Blonde

So hard to tell those "serial emailers" to stop sending that crap.

I had an Uncle who forwarded every "Ain't God Wonderful", "God Bless the USA", and "Don't use your cruise control in the rain or you'll die!" email he ever got.

And he got a bunch of them.

450 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:23:13am

re: #432 Killian Bundy

Watch it, you won't fear it if you ever need it.

/that said, two minute electric brushing upper and lower, floss, intra dental brush, gum stimulator, rinse, should take at least 15 minutes daily

I had 3 done last year. No pain jabs, I hate the lasting effects of having a dead mouth. The Dentist does not use gas so I said no to any Novocaine.

I did not have to watch it tho.

451 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:23:42am

re: #425 Chicago Blonde

Morning Afrocity, are you feeling better today?
I think it's a parody since it was on Snopes. I have a cousin that sends me every "oh-my-GAWD-don't-use-sunblock-and-eat-ketchup-or -you'll-DIE!" type email so I've bookmarked Snopes. :)

I immediately delete those e-mails.
And for the worst offenders - I add them to my "junk e-mail" list.

452 yochanan  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:23:48am

re: #371 Chicago Blonde

For what it's worth I found this...

fellow it to the long version of the story with many more photo's boy does she know how to game the system.

BROUGHT TO YOU BY 'PORKULUS

453 aussiemagpie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:24:00am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!

A bit of Aussie culture for you:-)

You know you're Australian when

> You know the meaning of 'girt'

> You believe that stubbies can either be worn or drunk

>You think it is normal to have a Prime Minister called Kevin

>You waddle when you walk due to the 53 expired petrol discount vouchers stuffed in your wallet or purse

>You've made a bong out of your garden hose rather than use it for something illegal such as watering the garden

>When you hear that an American 'roots for his team' you wonder how often and with whom

>You understand that the phrase 'a group of women wearing black thongs' refers to footwear and may be less alluring than it sounds

>You can translate: 'Dazza and Shazza played Acca Dacca on the way to Maccas.

>You believe it makes perfect sense for a nation to decorate its highways with large fibreglass bananas, prawns and sheep

> You think 'Woolloomooloo' is a perfectly reasonable name for a place

> You believe is makes sense for a country to have a $1 coin that's twice as big as its $2 coin

> You believe that cooked-down axlegrease makes a good breakfast spread

> You know, whatever the tourist books say, that no one says 'cobber'

> Whatever your linguistic skills, you find yourself able to order takeaway fluently in every Asian language

> You know what it's like to swallow a fly, on occasions via your nose

>You get choked up with emotion by the first verse of the national anthem and then have trouble remembering the second

I found this while trying to sort out my very messy email inbox....I need a secretary!

454 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:24:08am

re: #440 opnion
According to snopes the article itself is PArody but the 60 inch tv in her section 8 housing is real as are all the quotes they are just stated as all being done at one meeting when only 2 were at the meeting stated in the article others are from previous outbursts of hers.

455 opnion  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:24:14am

re: #442 reine.de.tout

Oh, that TV does belong to Ms. Jasper.
See my link here re: #417 reine.de.tout for the real story.

I have flipped, now it looks like a real story to me.
The sense of entitlement is staggering! The entitled class was solid for BHO & he intends to create more. This is war on the Middle Class to provide payback for the Obama's real & imagined slights.

456 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:24:56am

re: #449 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

LOL! I love my cousin but yeah, I get a ton of them from her every. single. day. Drives me nuts too.

457 ThinkRight  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:25:03am

re: #434 MandyManners

I don't buy it.


I have met people that bad,When I lived in Nashville I had to do some work in a food bank in the housing development.Those people really believe that everything is owed to them,and I counted 20 Cadillacs and more than 2 dozen Excursions in the lots in the development
It is the Housing Development next door to the Barber shop that Oprah's dad owned I think

458 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:25:06am

re: #417 reine.de.tout

Here are real articles at MM about Ms. Jasper.

Oh that's just classic...sad, very sad, but classic.
I didn't realize I was poor, but if a woman in a slum can have a 60 inch tv and I only have a 32 incher, well, that's just not right. Someone help me out, and give me money for a big screen!

459 opnion  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:25:26am

re: #454 Rustler

According to snopes the article itself is PArody but the 60 inch tv in her section 8 housing is real as are all the quotes they are just stated as all being done at one meeting when only 2 were at the meeting stated in the article others are from previous outbursts of hers.

Hmmm

460 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:25:29am

re: #453 aussiemagpie

Funny!
I'm saving it for Vol2!

461 quickjustice  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:25:46am

re: #435 opnion

I didn't and don't wish Kennedy's illness upon him or any human being. That said, this is about an honorary knighthood to a man who is the elderly statesman of the Democratic Party. The timing coincides with a huge diplomatic slight for the British Government at the hands of President Obama. The slight was no accident, nor is this knighthood.

462 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:26:37am

re: #451 reine.de.tout

I do. One is a cousin and her mom is a beloved aunt, so I have to cherry-pick from what she sends. *sigh* I love them but no, I don't want to see the #@!** singing hamsters again...

463 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:26:51am

re: #414 Afrocity

Morning Afro. Hope you are feeling better today.

464 opnion  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:27:40am

re: #461 quickjustice

I didn't and don't wish Kennedy's illness upon him or any human being. That said, this is about an honorary knighthood to a man who is the elderly statesman of the Democratic Party. The timing coincides with a huge diplomatic slight for the British Government at the hands of President Obama. The slight was no accident, nor is this knighthood.

Agreed & Teddy is not worthy of this type of honor.
Perhaps they will make Michelle a 'Lady of the Realm", or some crap.

465 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:27:59am

re: #442 reine.de.tout

Oh, that TV does belong to Ms. Jasper.
See my link here re: #417 reine.de.tout for the real story.

Thanks Reine. That is pathetic. The reason why many of these people are living in slums is because they spend what they have on these ghetto candy luxuries. The big screen TV, the Escalade, crushed velvet sofa, the bling.
I hate to say this but the Obama's remind me of this. Yesterday he bought this swing set for the girls. I thought that it was a tad ostentatious. The same with the sort of restaurants they frequent. Michelle gets losbster and caviar.
It really sounds as if they are not used to anything. Or like when he did his Congressional addresss and he had to shout "where is my First Lady?"

There is something sort of Snoop Dawg goes to Washington-ish about it.

466 VioletTiger  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:28:25am

re: #436 Chicago Blonde

I'm just tearing mine out...

That will work for a little while.......

467 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:28:34am

re: #456 Chicago Blonde

LOL! I love my cousin but yeah, I get a ton of them from her every. single. day. Drives me nuts too.

I have a few choice replies and none of them are nice. My family and friends know not to send me that shit.

468 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:29:46am

Well looks like I found my entertainment for the month.


[Link: theobamaforum.com...] haha about what they gonna do when they come take our guns.

469 opnion  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:29:58am

re: #461 quickjustice

Oh, by the way , I did not interpret your comment as wishing ill on Teddy.

470 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:30:14am

re: #463 Ford_Prefect

Thanks Ford, I feel better, still not myself but at least the thing I had is showing signs of losing its battle against my immune system.

471 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:30:50am

re: #412 Bubblehead II

Well right now mine is having a race. Graying v Balding. Balding seem to have a slight lead. :-)

I started going gray at age 12 and started balding at age 19. I vowed long ago that I would never do the comb over thing. In fact my life would be forfeit if I did, since I told most of my family and friends to kill me if I ever did do it.

472 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:31:08am

re: #465 Afrocity

I'm still freaking out over the $100-a-steak dinners. Do they give the cows Goldwasser shots and hot stone massages?

Sorry, makes me mad. I made steak fajitas for two out a decent $4 steak yesterday.

473 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:31:47am

Mornin' all. Did you catch michelle malkins new logo for the obambi admin?
Upper left corner, hammer & sickles, lower right corner, a figure with the ones shirt on with a gun to someone with a US shirt on head, can't remember the others.

474 ThinkRight  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:32:04am

re: #465 Afrocity


There is something sort of Snoop Dawg goes to Washington-ish about it.


I thought almost the same thing after he ACORN fixed the election
The Beverly Hillbillies ?
/

475 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:32:06am

re: #466 VioletTiger

And it feels so good when you stop tearing the hair out too!
BTW, thanks, I'll research violets on the web today. I'll try to keep this one happy and healthy.

476 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:34:15am

re: #467 Erik The Red

I have a few choice replies and none of them are nice. My family and friends know not to send me that shit.

When someone sends me one of those chains threatening terrible bad luck if I don't forward it I just let go and get very nasty.

477 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:34:52am

re: #468 Rustler

Well looks like I found my entertainment for the month.

[Link: theobamaforum.com...] haha about what they gonna do when they come take our guns.

Such classy people on that site. ///

478 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:34:55am

re: #456 Chicago Blonde

He stopped when he died.

(Guilt. The gift that keeps on giving.)

479 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:35:11am

re: #470 Afrocity

Thanks Ford, I feel better, still not myself but at least the thing I had is showing signs of losing its battle against my immune system.

Glad to hear it.

480 aussiemagpie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:36:18am

re: #445 Crux Australis

I remember Prime Minister Paul Keating's recession back in the early 1990s as I graduated high school in 1989. It took me 15 months to find my first full-time job. If the March Quarter is negative then Australia will be in recession for the first time since 1990. Whenever Australia elects charismatic Prime Ministers like Whitlam and Keating the economy goes down and Australia suffers. Strange, dont you think?

Crux, rumour has it Kevin will be calling an early election around September/October this year before the pain really sets in, and especially before he delivers his economy and country wrecking ETS

That was a bad time in 1989 - and I shudder to think about it now

481 aussiemagpie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:37:31am

re: #460 reine.de.tout

Funny!
I'm saving it for Vol2!

Hi {reine}, I'm glad you liked my post :-)

482 Rustler  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:37:37am

re: #477 Ford_Prefect Later today I'm gonna have to see if they have any reeducation camp stuff there since my shift ends in 30 minutes and I won't have the proper timeframe to scoff and curse at the screen. Plus I'm sure the Hotel guests wouldn't appreciate my language while they eat breakfast.

483 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:38:01am

re: #478 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #478 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

(Guilt. The gift that keeps on giving.)

I know how that feels. And I'm sorry about your uncle.

484 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:38:04am

The next bubble: J.P. Morgan to reopen Treasury Plus fund - US Treasuries.

485 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:40:05am

re: #471 Ford_Prefect

I started going grey in 1984, which is coincidentally the same year I got married and acquired a 10 year old daughter and a 8 year old son.

/instant family

486 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:40:43am

re: #428 Afrocity

Yes, it is 7:15am here in Chicago. At 9am I am making some calls.

I would advise against it, but that in no way should be construed as any sort of legal advice. After last night I seriously doubt you'll be contacted again. Why affirmatively stir the pot? It's Chicago Jake, State street, throw a donut on the sidewalk, see what happens.

/and if you are contacted, then you can raise hell knowing what you know

487 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:40:53am

re: #482 Rustler

Let us know what you find.

488 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:41:33am

re: #485 Bubblehead II
Heh. Me too, but it was in 1998. 2 boys, now 17 and 15. With a 9 year old(ours) thrown in.

489 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:42:47am

a reminder....Ted Kennedy

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

490 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:43:12am

I am watching this Prop 8 drama on the news. You know I am neutral about the gay rights issues. I am for them getting benefits and all but I was talking to my Dad last week. He does not have health insurance and called me to ask for anti biotics because he thought would have some. It made me wonder if gays can put someone on their insurance, why can't I add my dad to mine? Or what if you have a best friend with cancer and you have no other dependents? Where do we draw the line with this stuff?

491 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:44:44am

re: #489 albusteve
So, Ike and some of the other WWII generals get knighthoods and now they're gonna give the swimmer one? Gaaaah.

492 DaddyG  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:46:32am

re: #473 pingjockey

Mornin' all. Did you catch michelle malkins new logo for the obambi admin?
Upper left corner, hammer & sickles, lower right corner, a figure with the ones shirt on with a gun to someone with a US shirt on head, can't remember the others.

Here they are. These are beautiful!

493 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:46:35am

re: #491 pingjockey

So, Ike and some of the other WWII generals get knighthoods and now they're gonna give the swimmer one? Gaaaah.


I can't imagine what Mary Jo's parents went through.

494 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:46:44am

Later Lizards. Going home via the pub(again) See you in a while.

495 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:46:59am

re: #494 Erik The Red

Bye Erik, have one for me.

496 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:47:10am

Iraq passes sharply reduced budget for 2009

BAGHDAD – Iraq's parliament has passed a $58.6 billion budget for this year after agreeing to sharp cuts amid falling oil prices.

Imagine that.

497 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:47:39am

re: #491 pingjockey

So, Ike and some of the other WWII generals get knighthoods and now they're gonna give the swimmer one? Gaaaah.

What's amazing is that Kennedy's father was an appeaser and Nazi lover, and Teddy boy supported the IRA. Do Liberals ever read a History Book?

498 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:47:48am

re: #492 DaddyG
Those are great.

499 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:48:26am

re: #493 Chicago Blonde
Horrible.

500 aussiemagpie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:48:31am

Cute baby animal video alert :-)


These gorgeous snow leopard cubs say hello to the world......

501 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:49:03am

re: #497 Nevergiveup
History for liberals is an elective or to be revised.

502 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:49:58am

re: #486 Killian Bundy

I would advise against it, but that in no way should be construed as any sort of legal advice. After last night I seriously doubt you'll be contacted again. Why affirmatively stir the pot? It's Chicago Jake, State street, throw a donut on the sidewalk, see what happens.

/and if you are contacted, then you can raise hell knowing what you know

Killian, I just would like to know where he got my info from. I went through this in my head all night and the only thing I can think of is when I volunteered for McCain during the general election. I did some phone tree calling to Iowa. I am signed up through the McCain/Palin site and I am on Michael Steele and IL GOP. Maybe they released the info or lists for the canvasers and I got unlucky and got him. I am in the Mayor's district which means I have a job (not on section 8). They may save the swank areas for heavy hitters like Zirkle. I dont have any $$$, I gave to Michael Steele and Sarah PAC. That is all I've got.

503 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:49:59am

re: #499 pingjockey

Did you ever read "Senatorial Privilege"? I did once, years ago. I was still a kid but I realized then that the rules aren't the same for everyone.

504 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:50:04am

China to increase defence spending by 15 per cent
China is to increase official military spending by almost 15 per cent this year as it seeks to upgrade its smart technology and improve the living standards of its soldiers.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Attention White House. Attention White House.

505 DaddyG  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:50:11am

re: #499 pingjockey

Horrible.


There is a joke somewhere in this thread about a Kennedy burial at sea, but its too early to wake up Stinky.

506 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:51:31am

re: #500 aussiemagpie

Cute baby animal video alert :-)

Aren't they CUTE?! Look at those sweet little faces and big feet!

507 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:51:54am

re: #503 Chicago Blonde
Have not read it. But I knew the rules are different, they shouldn't be but they are.

508 DaddyG  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:52:42am

re: #506 Chicago Blonde

Aren't they CUTE?! Look at those sweet little faces and big feet!

Supermodels?

509 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:53:08am

re: #505 DaddyG
Oh, the jokes just write themselves with Teddy. But, you are correct, a lot of mine would skate on very thin ice!

510 rightside  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:53:30am

re: #504 Nevergiveup

*beep* please leave a message, we'll try to get back to you after the cocktail party.... *beep*

511 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:53:43am

re: #500 aussiemagpie
That is so sweet, it'll hurt your teeth.

512 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:54:05am

re: #485 Bubblehead II

I started going grey in 1984, which is coincidentally the same year I got married and acquired a 10 year old daughter and a 8 year old son.

/instant family

Ha! I can't blame my family on that, at least not the one I created. The one that I came from on the other hand...

513 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:54:40am

re: #488 pingjockey

Both of ours are now married and we have 4 grand kids. When I recited my vows, it kind of felt like when I took me first enlistment oath. Ya know that "what the hell have I just done?" feeling.

514 DaddyG  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:54:42am

re: #509 pingjockey

Oh, the jokes just write themselves with Teddy. But, you are correct, a lot of mine would skate on very thin ice!


Ouch! You don't want to go overboard.

515 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:54:45am

re: #507 pingjockey

I think it's out of print but if you can score a copy in a second-hand book store it's worth reading.

Right now I'm trying to read every book I can on Middle Eastern history too.

516 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:55:33am

Here's a link to a brief Cato article I think many Lizards will like...and also, here's another link to a longer article on the same topic.

From the Cato article...

Paterson, Lane, and Rand began to do just that. Each was an original thinker in her own right. But each also made a mark as a great popularizer of liberal ideas. A few beleaguered liberal economists had argued, with great force, that no planned economy could match the productive efficiency of a capitalist system. Yet these economic arguments, despite their technical force, were unable to match the power of the utopian socialist vision to capture the popular imagination. These three -- Lane and Paterson almost entirely bereft of formal education, Rand writing fiction in an adopted tongue -- did just that. The sweeping histories of Lane and Paterson chronicled humanity's ascent from barbarism to civilization in a way that uncovered the necessary links between civil liberties, stable property rights, and material progress. Even more successful was Rand's allegorical tale of a brash and brilliant young architect struggling to maintain the integrity of his work in a profession where his independence of mind is despised and resented. Above all a romantic epic, The Fountainhead also served up a blistering satire of the day's intellectual fads and hinted at the Objectivist philosophy of rational self-interest that she would develop in greater detail in her Atlas Shrugged.

The effect the trio had was no accident: they were frequent correspondents (and friends too, at times) who saw each other -- despite quarrels over fine points of ethics or conflicting religious views -- as comrades in arms engaged in a war of ideas. The odds in that war looked less than encouraging, however: even the captains of industry who were emblems of the free enterprise system had, as often as not, succumbed to the prevailing orthodoxy. Undaunted, Rand wrote to Paterson in 1945: "You were right, we can do it without their help. We'll have to save capitalism from the capitalists."

517 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:55:46am

I see Michelle is still classless.

Ace had a good one calling her a "Bird of Prey Weapon's Officer".

Fits very well.

518 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:56:18am

Joe foot in mouth Biden will be addressing the AFL/CIO with no tv coverage, just one print media person! Guess they don't want to show the Veep on his knees giving Lewinskys to the union bosses.

519 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:56:20am

re: #514 DaddyG

Seriously - was anyone else offended when he was speaking at the DNC opening and referred to the sea as a metaphor for life? That upset me. And I don't get offended easily.

520 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:57:26am

re: #508 DaddyG

Supermodels?


In a sense, yes. :)

521 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:57:33am

re: #513 Bubblehead II
Yep. I adopted her two boys and when we were in the courthouse, it was the "Holy Shit, what am I doing?"

522 VioletTiger  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:57:45am

re: #492 DaddyG

Here they are. These are beautiful!

Those are great.
Love the comment about a dog with a 'shovel ready' project on the lawn.

523 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:57:56am

re: #519 Chicago Blonde

Seriously - was anyone else offended when he was speaking at the DNC opening and referred to the sea as a metaphor for life? That upset me. And I don't get offended easily.

Come on, the guy is a medical miracle. Who would have thought a human could live so long after having its brain pickled.

524 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:58:11am

this is fun...Coulter uttery pounds KObermman to dirt...utterly


[Link: townhall.com...]

525 ziggyelman  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:58:21am

re: #493 Chicago Blonde

I can't imagine what Mary Jo's parents went through.

I imagine they went through a lot of pressure to just shut up about it, not destroy the Kennedy "legacy"
Along with the terrible pain of losing their daughter...

526 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:58:33am

I hope Senator Kennedy heals, but has to retire. I wish good health for him.

527 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:58:52am

Here's a small bit from the longer article...

Amidst the worst of times, three bold women banished fear. They dared to declare that collectivism was evil. They stood up for natural rights, the only philosophy which provided a moral basis for opposing tyranny everywhere. They celebrated old-fashioned rugged individualism. They envisioned a future when people could again be free. They expressed a buoyant optimism which was to inspire millions.

All were outsiders who transcended difficult beginnings. Two were immigrants. One was born in frontier territory not yet part of the United States. They struggled to earn money as writers in commercial markets dominated by ideological adversaries. All were broke at one time or another. They endured heartaches with men—one stayed in a marriage which became sterile, and two became divorced and never remarried.

These women who had such humble beginnings—Rose Wilder Lane, Isabel Paterson, and Ayn Rand—published major books during the same year, 1943: The Discovery of Freedom, The God of the Machine, and The Fountainhead, respectively. The women, recalled journalist John Chamberlain, “with scornful side glances at the male business community, had decided to rekindle a faith in an older American philosophy. There wasn’t an economist among them. And none of them was a Ph.D.” Albert Jay Nock declared that, “They make all of us male writers look like Confederate money. They don’t fumble and fiddle around—every shot goes straight to the centre.”

528 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:59:10am

re: #491 pingjockey

So, Ike and some of the other WWII generals get knighthoods and now they're gonna give the swimmer one? Gaaaah.

Ted is a piece of shit...I don't care what anybody says

529 aussiemagpie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:59:17am

re: #506 Chicago Blonde

Hi {Chicago Blonde}

They really are adorable, and looking at that video has cheered me up too - I'm tired and cranky tonight....

530 VioletTiger  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:59:21am

re: #500 aussiemagpie

Cute baby animal video alert :-)


These gorgeous snow leopard cubs say hello to the world......

I love felines.

531 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:59:31am

re: #519 Chicago Blonde
I am always offended when any Kennedy speaks. Don't do as we do, do as we say. Fuck 'em all.

532 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 5:59:38am

re: #465 Afrocity

Thanks Reine. That is pathetic. The reason why many of these people are living in slums is because they spend what they have on these ghetto candy luxuries. The big screen TV, the Escalade, crushed velvet sofa, the bling.
I hate to say this but the Obama's remind me of this. Yesterday he bought this swing set for the girls. I thought that it was a tad ostentatious. The same with the sort of restaurants they frequent. Michelle gets losbster and caviar.
It really sounds as if they are not used to anything. Or like when he did his Congressional addresss and he had to shout "where is my First Lady?"

There is something sort of Snoop Dawg goes to Washington-ish about it.

Well, I don't know if there's something "SnoopDawg"-ish about it, but I don't find his behavior particularly presidential.

I read this article this morning - apparently, Gordon Brown's wife Sarah chose some nice and unique gifts to bring to the Obama girls - some dresses with matching necklaces, and a selection of books by British authors.

Michelle chose to give gifts to the Brown's children, also - and instead of finding something unique, chose to give toy models of Marine One that are available in the White House gift shop for $15 each.

It's not the cost that bothers me - it's the lack of consideration and preparation for this visit, and the complete lack of imagination in the gift selection. I would think the First Lady would have an aide of some sort who is well-versed in diplomatic protocol who could have helped her select nicer gifts.

533 DaddyG  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:00:12am

re: #519 Chicago Blonde

Seriously - was anyone else offended when he was speaking at the DNC opening and referred to the sea as a metaphor for life? That upset me. And I don't get offended easily.

I think there is a serious amount of "tone deafness" with leadership in both parties. Leaders get insulated for a lot of reasons, the first being no one wants to bring them the bad news and take the arrows. Compound that with generations of wealth and priveledge and possible getting away with manslaughter... Which of the emperors staffers is going to point out that he is naked?

534 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:00:42am

Good morning everyone. Got some bad news last night. We lost one of the masters of Piedmont Blues guitar, John Cephas. I know that Charles is partial to electric jazz guitar, but I'm sure he can appreciate acoustic blues as well.

[Link: www.pollstar.com...]

535 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:00:55am

BBIAB!

536 aussiemagpie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:02:05am

re: #511 pingjockey

That is so sweet, it'll hurt your teeth.

Hi, and thanks for the laugh :-)

I'll need to see a dentist....

537 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:02:08am

re: #523 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

It's taken its toll on him a lot more slowly than I would have expected, that's for sure. I don't wish harm on him or anything but you're right, it's a wonder he's alive.

538 Amer-I-Can  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:02:32am
It’s all part of a cosmic unconsciousness

Isn't that part of the Porkulus Plan? We are much easier to dupe if we are unconscious at the time...

539 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:02:39am

re: #531 pingjockey

I am always offended when any Kennedy speaks. Don't do as we do, do as we say. Fuck 'em all.

Now, that? I agree with wholeheartedly.

540 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:03:07am

re: #502 Afrocity

Killian, I just would like to know where he got my info from. I went through this in my head all night and the only thing I can think of is when I volunteered for McCain during the general election. I did some phone tree calling to Iowa. I am signed up through the McCain/Palin site and I am on Michael Steele and IL GOP. Maybe they released the info or lists for the canvasers and I got unlucky and got him.

Ya think, a list of Republicans that volunteer? Again, I would just let it slide. It either goes away or it doesn't. It's not going to go away if you charge in. Unless you're hyped up to contest the Emanuel special election seat, keep your powder dry

/if it happens to reappear, well, you haven't lost any ground, you're where you are now

541 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:03:09am

Work is calling to me. Trying to ignore it. Won't go away.

BBL!

542 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:03:12am

re: #534 Mad Al-Jaffee

Good morning everyone. Got some bad news last night. We lost one of the masters of Piedmont Blues guitar, John Cephas. I know that Charles is partial to electric jazz guitar, but I'm sure he can appreciate acoustic blues as well.

[Link: www.pollstar.com...]

bummer...very few of the old timers are still around...RIP John

543 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:03:37am

re: #537 Chicago Blonde

It's taken its toll on him a lot more slowly than I would have expected, that's for sure. I don't wish harm on him or anything but you're right, it's a wonder he's alive.

How many more freaking Kennedy's are around to take up their "birthright" as royalty?

Princess Caroline.

Anybody else, that doesn't have a rape conviction or something?

544 quickjustice  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:04:19am

re: #515 Chicago Blonde

"Peace to End All Peace", about the British and French division of the Ottoman Empire into the modern Middle East after WWII. Churchill was in the middle of that.

545 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:04:31am

re: #512 Ford_Prefect

Oh, I don't blame anybody for going grey. It was probably the sudden realization that I was now responsible for the well being of three other individuals and the days of doing what I wanted when I wanted were over. That is a heavy shock to the system of a (then) 23 year old kid.

546 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:04:41am

re: #543 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

How many more freaking Kennedy's are around to take up their "birthright" as royalty?

Princess Caroline.

Anybody else, that doesn't have a rape conviction or something?

the epitome of dysfunction

547 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:04:52am

re: #533 DaddyG

I think you're right - they're tone-deaf and insulated. Doesn't do them or us any good.

548 Beach Lover  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:05:09am

morning lizards, or is it mourning? At any rate..this is a drive by post as I have to leave for work (thankfully I still have a job). But, this is one of the most eye opening articles I've read in a long while. send to everyone you know. (Sorry if someone has already posted it )
[Link: canadafreepress.com...]

549 njdhockeyfan  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:05:29am

Five More States Invoke the 10th

Last week, HUMAN EVENTS reported that eleven states, Washington, New Hampshire, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, Minnesota, Georgia, South Carolina, and Texas, had all “all introduced bills and resolutions” declaring their sovereignty over Obama’s actions in light of the 10th Amendment.

These actions are in response to the Obama administration’s faux-“stimulus” legislation which directly assaults the rights of states to reject the money coming from the federal government. So far, several Republican governors -- among them South Carolina’s Mark Sanford and Louisiana’s Bobby Jindal -- have said they would refuse all or part of the stimulus money because of the constitutional infringements and because of the additional unfunded liabilities they impose on the states.

This week, HUMAN EVENTS is happy to report that five more states have decided to invoke the 10th as well.

These five -- Tennessee, Kentucky, Kansas, Indiana, and West Virginia -- have all begun their action under the 10th Amendment in a bid to protect themselves from what they view as nothing less than an unconstitutional usurpation of power on the part of the Obama administration.

Good morning! :)

550 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:06:20am

re: #529 aussiemagpie

re: #530 VioletTiger

My house leopard is in my lap as I type, purring his little heart out...

551 quickjustice  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:06:41am

re: #532 reine.de.tout

With due respect to you, I don't think they care. Worse, it may be that they want to offend old allies, and sow discord in traditional U.S. alliances. These are smart people. I think it's deliberate.

552 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:07:12am

re: #544 quickjustice

"Peace to End All Peace", about the British and French division of the Ottoman Empire into the modern Middle East after WWII. Churchill was in the middle of that.


Thank you, I'll have to look for that one.

553 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:08:42am

re: #517 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I see Michelle is still classless.

Ace had a good one calling her a "Bird of Prey Weapon's Officer".

Fits very well.

At least she covered her arms. I also remember that she met Laura Bush for the first time and came without a gift. Don't get me started. It is too early in the morning. I could say so much about this "type of Chicago woman". You could give them toilet water and say it is Perrier and they would beam with happiness that you are entertaining them in such a pulchritudinous fashion.

554 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:08:56am

re: #543 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

How many more freaking Kennedy's are around to take up their "birthright" as royalty?

Princess Caroline.

Anybody else, that doesn't have a rape conviction or something?

Yeah, they never got the memo that we weren't into the whole royalty thing over here. And their fans didn't either.

555 phoenixgirl  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:09:45am

My father asks for nothing this story is in the links. brought a tear to my eye this morning. if you haven't read it, please do and ding pink freud up in the top rated links.

556 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:12:11am

re: #553 Afrocity

At least she covered her arms. I also remember that she met Laura Bush for the first time and came without a gift. Don't get me started. It is too early in the morning. I could say so much about this "type of Chicago woman". You could give them toilet water and say it is Perrier and they would beam with happiness that you are entertaining them in such a pulchritudinous fashion.

I think the word you are looking for is "flinty".

/

557 aussiemagpie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:12:16am

re: #530 VioletTiger

I love felines.

Hi {VioletTiger} and I'm with you, surrounded by my three kitties

My kids are convinced I'll end up in the news when I'm old - old lady found in house with 690 cats :-)

558 phoenixgirl  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:13:00am

re: #551 quickjustice

With due respect to you, I don't think they care. Worse, it may be that they want to offend old allies, and sow discord in traditional U.S. alliances. These are smart people. I think it's deliberate.

everything they do is deliberate! his whole campaign he told us EXACTLY what he was going to do. he was very transparent about his agenda. how many times did he say he was going to CHANGE AMERICA and he is doing it! he may be the president but he is the most dangerous man in our country!

559 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:13:00am
560 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:13:28am

A very interesting article about just who Barney frank is.

snips

In 1991, Barney Frank received an official reprimand for reflecting "discredit upon the House." The reprimand came as a result of his relationship with a man named Steve Gobi, a male prostitute whom Frank initially paid $80 for sex. Frank later took Gobi to live with him in his home, making him a personal aide. He paid him $20,000 in compensation (unreported to the IRS) and let him use his car. Subsequent investigation revealed that in the course of their relationship, Frank used his congressional office and stationary to fix Gobi's 33 parking fines. Frank also used his congressional letterhead to write a reference letter to Gobi's probation officer -- Gobi was under court supervision as a convicted felon with a prison record -- in which he gave false information. Most damningly, the investigation found that Gobi ran a prostitution ring from Frank's home. In his defense, Frank asserted he knew nothing of Gobi's illicit enterprise.

Shows very poor judgement and, and very possibly lokking the other way as criminal activity takes place in his home.

After Gobi, Barney Frank become involved in another questionable -- and possibly criminally tainted -- relationship with a man called Herb Moses. Moses, whom Frank called his "spouse," was a high-level executive at Fannie Mae from 1991 until 1998. Dubbed a "mortgage guru" by the National Mortgage News, Moses boasted that he helped develop "many of Fannie Mae's affordable housing and home improvement lending programs." It was, of course, these kinds of programs that ultimately led to the collapse of the subprime mortgage market that wiped out trillions dollars from the economy and produced the economic turmoil that we now face. Even though there were those warning against the precarious nature of the enterprise, Barney Frank -- whose committee oversees Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- kept resisting reforms and besmirching those voicing concerns.

Clearly a major conflict of interest here. Explains a lot of his actions in refusing to allow any oversight into Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

In 2006, Frank voted against the Respect for America's Fallen Heroes Act, a bill aimed at restricting protests and demonstrations at soldiers' funerals. The measure passed unanimously in the Senate with Frank being one of only three legislators in the House who voted against the Act.

I don't even need to add to this one.

In 2003 Barney Frank voted against the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act, a brutal procedure during which a baby -- often viable -- is killed in the birth canal by having its skull pierced and its brain sucked out.

I don't care where you are on the whole abortion issue, this is just appallingly wrong.

In the area of national defense, Barney Frank has for years advocated a 25 percent reduction in the overall military budget of the United States.


He then challenged those who call for fiscal responsibility to first look "where our spending has been the most irresponsible and has produced the least good for the dollars expended - our military budget."

I know that none of this is news to those who have been paying attention, but put all together in one place it really paints a disturbing picture. Seriously, this man has got to go.

Sorry for the long post.

561 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:14:02am

re: #549 njdhockeyfan

Five More States Invoke the 10th

Good morning! :)

sweet...not that BO gives a hoot with his extraConstitutional mindset...if he forces a showdown over the 10th he will lose....there is revolution in the air

562 notutopia  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:14:15am

A Plate of pre-selected, invited shrimp......
Yum, eat up Obama!

.......President invites broad group of doctors, patients, business owners and insurers to White House for a forum on how to fix the world's costliest health care system.

"The president wants to engage with Congress in a transparent and bipartisan fashion," White House domestic policy head Melody Barnes said Wednesday.

Obama to Hold Forum to Diagnose Health Care Ills
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I want to review the attendees on the invited list to see which Doctors and patients made this cut in transparent and bipartisan fashion!

563 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:14:48am

re: #557 aussiemagpie

((Aussiemagpie))
You're in good company here. I have an Edward Gorey t-shirt that says "books. cats. life is good." on it.

564 VioletTiger  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:15:14am

re: #557 aussiemagpie

Hi {VioletTiger} and I'm with you, surrounded by my three kitties

My kids are convinced I'll end up in the news when I'm old - old lady found in house with 690 cats :-)

Yep, me too. My sister gave me one of those magnetic crazy cat lady things for Christmas. It has little cats stuck to it. So far, husband has resisted turning the Tiger household into a cattery or a bontanical garden. So far.

565 phoenixgirl  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:15:19am

re: #560 Ford_Prefect

i laugh every time rush plays the "dancing queen" parody

566 aggieann  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:15:25am

Howdy, everyone. This morning's reading assignment (a link in a page included in today's Instapundit offerings):

The Secret Scrapbook of Barry Obama
[Link: directorblue.blogspot.com...]

567 DaddyG  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:15:28am

re: #549 njdhockeyfan

A RESOLUTION... Claiming sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over certain powers; serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates; and for other purposes.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE GEORGIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY: that the State of Georgia hereby claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States.


BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this serve as Notice and Demand to the federal government, as our agent, to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.

568 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:16:20am

re: #560 Ford_Prefect

A very interesting article about just who Barney frank is.

Nobody I care to know. Thanks for finding that, Ford.

569 VioletTiger  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:16:41am

re: #560 Ford_Prefect

Gah. Why does he keep getting elected?

570 bellamags  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:17:13am

re: #560 Ford_Prefect

OH my oh my. what a way to start the day. GOOD MORNING FORD!

Barney Frank and Sandy Burgler. One in the same? Soros and Madeline Albright? hmmmmmmmmmm.

Even the brutally honest slap in the face about Barney Frank cannot make me feel down. I have COFFEE this morning. A caramel macchiatto to be exact. (with extra caramel of course)

571 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:18:54am

re: #555 phoenixgirl

My father asks for nothing this story is in the links. brought a tear to my eye this morning. if you haven't read it, please do and ding pink freud up in the top rated links.

Great article. We were all over yesterday. I even ended up in the top 10 comments just for reposting it later in the day. You are right that Pink deserves the credit for the original post.

572 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:19:00am

re: #570 bellamags

I have COFFEE this morning. A caramel macchiatto to be exact. (with extra caramel of course)

Mmmmm. Man does that sound good...

573 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:19:13am

{bellamags}

574 notutopia  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:19:25am

re: #562 notutopia
National Healthcare
.....The difference this time, Obama argues, is that health care costs have become unsustainable, particularly in a sinking economy.......

Duh!, Well let's just help sink the economy along a little faster please.

575 Amer-I-Can  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:19:27am

re: #569 VioletTiger

Gah. Why does he keep getting elected?

Where is he from? Enough said....

576 bellamags  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:20:18am

re: #573 Afrocity

{bellamags}

{Afrocity} - Did you ever have lobster the other night? with extra butter?

577 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:20:20am

bbiaw

578 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:20:56am

re: #558 phoenixgirl

everything they do is deliberate! his whole campaign he told us EXACTLY what he was going to do. he was very transparent about his agenda. how many times did he say he was going to CHANGE AMERICA and he is doing it! he may be the president but he is the most dangerous man in our country!

Well, he did say he was going to change things.

Those of us paying attention were terrified at what that change might be (and we underestimated him).

But he (with the help of the MSM, the bastards) got away with leaving change as a fill in the blank matter where every voter could write in their fondest hopes.

That is evil and an act of cowardliness... a man should stand up speak what he thinks is right and let the voters decide on the merits.

579 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:21:18am

re: #567 DaddyG

A RESOLUTION... Claiming sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over certain powers; serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates; and for other purposes.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE GEORGIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY: that the State of Georgia hereby claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this serve as Notice and Demand to the federal government, as our agent, to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.

this needs to become a 'meme' that is a reminder of what Federalism is...the feds are there because the states allow it....the House is the voice of the ordinary citizens from all states...they are the lawmakers, not the executive nor the elitest 100 senators...the HOUSE....God bless the UNION...I hate the feds

580 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:21:19am

re: #570 bellamags

Morning Bella. Been to MegaStarbucks again I see.

581 notutopia  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:21:56am

re: #574 notutopia
National Healthcare
.......Also, most health insurance coverage in America is linked to workplace programs, and workers who lose their jobs also lose their family's coverage......

We're still waiting to see this grand plan of yours in creating Jobs
Obama.

582 bellamags  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:22:54am

re: #580 Ford_Prefect

Morning Bella. Been to MegaStarbucks again I see.

I can't help it. My car somehow finds its way to the drive through every morning. Its under a spell.

583 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:23:41am

re: #569 VioletTiger

Gah. Why does he keep getting elected?

That is the real question. I know that I will be pushing hard to see to it that my own states excuse for a Senator, Chris Dodd, ends up on the ash heap of history come the next election cycle. Massachusetts needs to do the same to Frank.

584 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:23:50am

re: #581 notutopia

The only job growth I see is gov't drones to oversee the expansion of entitlement programs!

585 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:24:02am

re: #578 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Well, he did say he was going to change things.

Those of us paying attention were terrified at what that change might be (and we underestimated him).

But he (with the help of the MSM, the bastards) got away with leaving change as a fill in the blank matter where every voter could write in their fondest hopes.

That is evil and an act of cowardliness... a man should stand up speak what he thinks is right and let the voters decide on the merits.

totally agree....he is a disingenuous liar...a creepy unAmerican scammer not fit to lead...he is an insult to all Americans whether they think so or not

586 Chicago Blonde  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:24:17am

*wishing she could stay, prying herself from keyboard*

Bye guys, I have to go now, and if I don't see you tonight I'll see you in the morning.

587 bellamags  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:24:38am

re: #586 Chicago Blonde

bye. have a good day

588 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:24:51am

re: #582 bellamags

I can't help it. My car somehow finds its way to the drive through every morning. Its under a spell.

Have you had a gingerbread latte recently? I learned recently that my local MegaStarbucks still had the stuff to make them with even though it wasn't on the menu anymore.

589 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:25:32am

re: #586 Chicago Blonde

*wishing she could stay, prying herself from keyboard*

Bye guys, I have to go now, and if I don't see you tonight I'll see you in the morning.

Later Blondie. Enjoy the day.

590 aussiemagpie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:26:06am

re: #555 phoenixgirl

My father asks for nothing this story is in the links. brought a tear to my eye this morning. if you haven't read it, please do and ding pink freud up in the top rated links.

What a beautiful piece of writing, and it made me cry as well...thanks for this link

591 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:26:18am

re: #587 bellamags

Bella, did you see my number 338. It will give you a smile.

592 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:26:55am

re: #590 aussiemagpie

I actually linked it on my Facebook page.

593 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:27:23am

re: #586 Chicago Blonde
Vaya con Dios.
The son of Coumo is calling some Merril Lynch execs on the carpet to find out why they got huge bonuses while the company was sinking. Silly AG, because they could! Plus it was probably in their contracts. Unlike a pro athletes contract, most contracts in business are non-negiotable once they're signed.

594 bellamags  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:27:33am

re: #588 Ford_Prefect

Have you had a gingerbread latte recently? I learned recently that my local MegaStarbucks still had the stuff to make them with even though it wasn't on the menu anymore.

Nope. I forgot about that one. I will be sure to ask tomorrow. Does yours serve breakfast and lunch now? I was wondering if we were a test market, or if it was nationwide.

595 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:28:08am

I pretty much gave up on Debbie Schlussel a long time ago, but she's really gone off the deep end with her rant about the Watchmen movie.

[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

596 Miss Trixie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:28:43am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Another gorgeous day chock-full of sinshine and the valley is waking up from winter. :D :D Tomorrow promises to be around 55F!

Yee-hawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! :D

re: #515 Chicago Blonde

I think it's out of print but if you can score a copy in a second-hand book store it's worth reading.

Right now I'm trying to read every book I can on Middle Eastern history too.

Morning, toots. This book is riveting and generally puts to bed all the insidious lies and garbage generally taken as gospel by the lefty lunatics and simply lays out the truth. I bawled my eyes out when I came to the part where Moshe Dayan strode through Temple Mount victorious.

597 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:28:52am

the demise of print 'news'....[Link: townhall.com...]

598 bellamags  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:28:56am

re: #338 Ford_Prefect

Good Morning Lizards!

I am at work and my wife just called me. Our almost three year old daughter was watching something on Nickelodeon this morning when some story they have been running lately about Obama came on. IIRC it talks about how historic it is that he was elected blah blah blah. My daughter then said, completely unprompted by my wife, "Me no like Obama." I am so proud. She is a smart little girl, if I do say so myself. :-)

OH MY WORD! from the mouths of babes. what a little genius. (I saw the video of her singing. what a sweetheart)

599 njdhockeyfan  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:29:48am

Kerry calls for easing US sanctions against Syria

WASHINGTON - Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, who recently returned from a Middle East trip that included stops in Damascus and Gaza, called yesterday for loosening sanctions on Syria, which he praised for opening a stock market and sending an ambassador to Iraq.

"Loosening certain sanctions in exchange for verifiable changes in behavior can actually benefit US businesses," Kerry, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told a packed auditorium at the Brookings Institution. "The sanctions can always be tightened again if Syria backtracks."

600 Lincolntf  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:29:55am

re: #569 VioletTiger

Because his district is the belly of the Liberal beast. It's insane in MA. Convictions, censures, even arrests don't dissuade the moonbats from voting for their pet Congresskids.
Check out Gerry Studds, he was even worse than Frank.

601 aussiemagpie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:31:01am

re: #563 Chicago Blonde

((Aussiemagpie))
You're in good company here. I have an Edward Gorey t-shirt that says "books. cats. life is good." on it.

Great T-shirt! Books are everywhere in this house, and I'm reading three at the moment - one I leave at work to read during lunch, and two are on my bedside table

602 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:31:28am
603 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:31:53am

Have any lizards noticed that after the "plate 'o shrimp" discussion, there is a restaurant with a sign in its window about its special - a Plate O Shrimp

Repo Man is a great movie.

604 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:31:57am

re: #576 bellamags

{Afrocity} - Did you ever have lobster the other night? with extra butter?

No, I cant afford a lobster dinner in Chicago.We don't have chains here like Red Lobster. I did look at some of the tails in a grocery store but I have no idea about how I would cook them.

605 notutopia  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:32:00am

re: #581 notutopia

On Government Military Contracts...Recycle the old contracts and Create new Contracts! And kick the old Bush Administration's policies while saying you're creating jobs and doing something really unique and new!

...........On Wednesday, in yet another reversal of Bush administration policy, Obama ordered an overhaul of the way the government hands out contracts, promising to curtail a system that led to waste and abuse in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Obama said the changes could save up to $40 billion a year. The move is bound to be popular with Americans who voiced disgust with perceived special treatment for companies like Halliburton, the oil industry services company once run by former Vice President Dick Cheney, which has billed the government billions for work in Iraq. The company was frequently received lucrative government contracts without having to go through a competitive bidding process.

"In Iraq, too much money has been paid out for services that were never performed, buildings that were never completed, companies that skimmed off the top," Obama said. "It's time for this waste and inefficiency to end."

Dozens of people have been charged with bribery and other contract fraud crimes as part of a Justice Department crackdown. Fraud has been particularly prevalent following the U.S. invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, where billions of dollars was spent quickly and often with little oversight.

More than 140 investigations into allegations of contract fraud in Iraq, Kuwait and Afghanistan are under way.

Obama took aim at the Bush administration without directly naming his predecessor, denouncing only an "era of irresponsibility." He noted that spending on government contracts has doubled to more than $500 billion since 2001 -- the same eight-year time frame that Republican President George W. Bush led the executive branch.

During last week's White House meetings on America's financial future, lawmakers and officials bluntly told top Obama aides that government contracts needed to be handled in a better way.

.......Obama's presidential memo directs Peter Orszag, director of the White House Office of Management and Budget, to work with Cabinet and agency officials to draft new contracting rules by the end of September. Those new rules, White House aides say, will make it more difficult for contractors to bilk taxpayers and make some half-trillion dollars in federal contracts each year more accessible to independent contractors.

606 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:32:02am
607 bellamags  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:32:35am

re: #602 Iron Fist

Damn, man, it is hard to tell who's making fun of whom there. Pretty bad, no matter how you slice it. Speaking of slicing, my latest purchase shipped this morning. It's almost like one of the Vietnam issue Gerbers. Pricewise, it comes in on the lower end of the pack. You can get less expensive knives, but you are getting what you pay for. This one is about half what you'd pay for a Mercworx blade, which was the other knife I was considering.

That is beautiful.

608 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:32:39am

re: #594 bellamags

Nope. I forgot about that one. I will be sure to ask tomorrow. Does yours serve breakfast and lunch now? I was wondering if we were a test market, or if it was nationwide.

I have seen some sandwiches in their little display thing, but never tried them. They looked kind of pre-made to me.

609 bellamags  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:33:33am

re: #604 Afrocity

No, I cant afford a lobster dinner in Chicago.We don't have chains here like Red Lobster. I did look at some of the tails in a grocery store but I have no idea about how I would cook them.

Its real easy. I will send you the instructions on facebook. Only takes a couple of minutes. Cooking them in wine makes the meat sweet.

610 freetoken  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:33:45am

re: #517 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I see Michelle is still classless.

That is truly making a mountain out of a molehill.

611 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:33:51am

re: #598 bellamags

OH MY WORD! from the mouths of babes. what a little genius. (I saw the video of her singing. what a sweetheart)

Thanks.

*Beams with pride.

612 Miss Trixie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:34:13am

re: #570 bellamags

I have COFFEE this morning. A caramel macchiatto to be exact. (with extra caramel of course)

Sounds yummy and I would love some but caffeine interferes with the voices in my head.

/Dark, malevolent laughter ...

:P

613 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:34:28am
614 VioletTiger  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:35:01am

re: #583 Ford_Prefect

That is the real question. I know that I will be pushing hard to see to it that my own states excuse for a Senator, Chris Dodd, ends up on the ash heap of history come the next election cycle. Massachusetts needs to do the same to Frank.


Everybody talks about finding the next pres. candidate, but I think we need to focus on getting rid of the clowns in congress in 2010. There is enough ammo to go after these guys. The ones who will challenge them need to speak up now. These will be the new leaders, IMO.

615 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:35:43am

re: #610 freetoken

That is truly making a mountain out of a molehill.

I don't think so. She is classless and I always felt that Cindy McCain would make a better first lady.

616 summergurl  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:35:50am

re: #532 reine.de.tout

Well, I don't know if there's something "SnoopDawg"-ish about it, but I don't find his behavior particularly presidential.

I read this article this morning - apparently, Gordon Brown's wife Sarah chose some nice and unique gifts to bring to the Obama girls - some dresses with matching necklaces, and a selection of books by British authors.

Michelle chose to give gifts to the Brown's children, also - and instead of finding something unique, chose to give toy models of Marine One that are available in the White House gift shop for $15 each.

It's not the cost that bothers me - it's the lack of consideration and preparation for this visit, and the complete lack of imagination in the gift selection. I would think the First Lady would have an aide of some sort who is well-versed in diplomatic protocol who could have helped her select nicer gifts.

Marine One models? Did they come with the specs? I mean if Iran has them certainly the Brown's children can have a copy.

617 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:36:29am

re: #596 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

Another gorgeous day chock-full of sinshine and the valley is waking up from winter. :D :D Tomorrow promises to be around 55F!

Yee-hawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! :D

Morning, toots. This book is riveting and generally puts to bed all the insidious lies and garbage generally taken as gospel by the lefty lunatics and simply lays out the truth. I bawled my eyes out when I came to the part where Moshe Dayan strode through Temple Mount victorious.

Oh, yeah. Oren's book is a must-read.

618 njdhockeyfan  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:36:40am

Rush Limbaugh challenges Obama to debate

The Rush Limbaugh saga has taken another turn with the bellicose broadcaster challenging President Obama to a debate.

"Let's talk about the New Deal versus Reaganomics," Limbaugh said Wednesday after inviting Obama to stop by. "Let's talk about closing Guantanamo Bay, and let's talk about sending $900 million to Hamas. Let's talk about illegal immigration and the lawlessness on the borders."

I think Rush would wipe the floor with him even if BHO uses his teleprompter.

619 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:36:48am

re: #614 VioletTiger

Everybody talks about finding the next pres. candidate, but I think we need to focus on getting rid of the clowns in congress in 2010. There is enough ammo to go after these guys. The ones who will challenge them need to speak up now. These will be the new leaders, IMO.

I agree Violet. We are jumping the proverbial gun.

620 bellamags  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:36:56am

re: #612 Miss Trixie

Sounds yummy and I would love some but caffeine interferes with the voices in my head.

/Dark, malevolent laughter ...

:P

LOL. (we shall see what an extra shot of espresso does)

621 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:38:59am
622 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:39:08am

re: #609 bellamags

Its real easy. I will send you the instructions on facebook. Only takes a couple of minutes. Cooking them in wine makes the meat sweet.

Please send Bella. My grocery store has offered a deal on them for some time now. I am a big fan of raw oysters too, I just have trouble shucking them.

623 aussiemagpie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:39:11am

re: #564 VioletTiger

Yep, me too. My sister gave me one of those magnetic crazy cat lady things for Christmas. It has little cats stuck to it. So far, husband has resisted turning the Tiger household into a cattery or a bontanical garden. So far.

Mr Aussiemagpie has been very patient - as none of the present my kitties actually were chosen by us - my son's cat, a stray from our surgery, a patient's cat.....and the abandoned next door cat

I'm so glad it wasn't a stray horse or snake.....

624 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:39:19am

Fer cryin' out loud, can't they get this Olmert bum outta there already? The election was Feb. 10th and this crook is still PM.
C'mon Israelis, get your act together!

625 VioletTiger  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:39:28am

re: #600 Lincolntf

Because his district is the belly of the Liberal beast. It's insane in MA. Convictions, censures, even arrests don't dissuade the moonbats from voting for their pet Congresskids.
Check out Gerry Studds, he was even worse than Frank.

I have a conservative friend who is an elected official up in MA, surrounded by libs. She complains about taxechusetts. I just mention Corzine, tax czar of Jersey.

626 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:41:07am
627 VioletTiger  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:41:16am

re: #618 njdhockeyfan

Rush Limbaugh challenges Obama to debate


I think Rush would wipe the floor with him even if BHO uses his teleprompter.


I heard that yesterday. Obambi doesn't have the nerve.

628 notutopia  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:41:27am

re: #605 notutopia

Damn, Wednesday was a productive one! (9 million guarantees for Democratic votes in the 21012 election.)
/
......Also Wednesday, the Obama administration kicked off a NEW program designed to help up to 9 million borrowers stay in their homes through refinanced mortgages or loans that are modified to lower monthly payments.
(

The $75 billion program offers refinanced mortgages or modified loans with lower monthly payments. Yet its refinancing plan is limited to borrowers who owe up to 5 percent more than their home's current value.

Obama has been working to ease the collapsing housing market that put the economic crisis in high gear late last year. He also is sticking to his course of huge spending designed to put a brake on rising unemployment while instituting modest tax cuts for low- and middle-income American workers.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and Orszag returned to Capitol Hill on Wednesday for a second day of hearings on Obama's $3.6 trillion tax and spending proposal. Both faced tough questions about the tax package.

As for Obama's health care plan, Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, who will play a leading role in writing health care legislation, raised questions about the administration's proposed $634 billion "down payment" for expanded coverage.

Half that money is to come from cuts in government health programs and half from TAX INCREASES over a 10-year period. The government will spend trillions on health care over the same period......


And who is going to actually pay for those TAX INCREASES?
You and me!

629 nyc redneck  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:41:29am

re: #417 reine.de.tout

Here are real articles at MM about Ms. Jasper.

this woman has the same kind of anger as michelle o, she could have been in the congregation at rev. wright's hate church. of course michelle had to temper her feelings as she stumped for o and her belligerence became more and more obvious.
ms jasper has nothing but a scowl on her face and anger in her heart.
what a beast.
no thankfulness for the nice apt., hardwood floor or 60 in. flat screen t.v.
or food stamps or paid electric bill and full medical care. plus walking around money to buy bash bush t-shirts.
disgraceful.
this is who o wants to turn us into. miserable people, waiting for others to pay their way. imagine a country of obnoxious demanding derelicts like this woman.
O does.

630 Miss Trixie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:41:39am

re: #620 bellamags

LOL. (we shall see what an extra shot of espresso does)

*POP!*
.
.
*thump*

XP

njdhockeyfan

The Rush Limbaugh saga has taken another turn with the bellicose broadcaster challenging President Obama to a debate.

"Let's talk about the New Deal versus Reaganomics," Limbaugh said Wednesday after inviting Obama to stop by. "Let's talk about closing Guantanamo Bay, and let's talk about sending $900 million to Hamas. Let's talk about illegal immigration and the lawlessness on the borders."

I think Rush would wipe the floor with him even if BHO uses his teleprompter.

I would take a sick day from work just to stay home and listen to that.

:D

631 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:41:44am

A niche science grant, these folks were clever...

Burping Worms May Contribute to Climate Change

The nitrous oxide given off by these so-called filter feeders has little global impact of course. "We're not expecting a new catastrophe," Stief said. But on the scale of an individual lake or stream, "the difference can be huge," Stief said — as much as an 8-fold difference between situations where animals were and were not present.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

632 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:41:52am
633 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:42:31am

Good morning y'all - it is with great sadness that I have to announce the passing of LGF commenter ElderZionist - who's widow, LGFer ChildofMary informed me of my friend's passing last night.
While ElderZionist and his widow ChildofMary were infrequent contributors to LGF, health issues were a primary reason - ElderZionist had had cancer for a number of years, and was also afflicted with a heart related problem- two surgeries and numerous bouts of chemotherapy/radiaiton thereapy left his body too weak to continue his fight.
He was a fine man and a truly good friend to me and his widow ChildofMary has been an equally good friend - she suffers from Fibromalgia and usually has difficulty typing.
There will be no memorial service, but ChildofMary expressed the wish that if anyone wanted to remember him that they make a donation to Cancer Research, through the American Cancer Society.
I realize that many of you will not recognize their nicnames out here - they became LGFer's quite some time ago, but you should know that he helped me keep my spirits up as he went through his own ordeal as did ChildofMary. I will miss him and his tremendous zest for life and his toughness a great deal.

634 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:42:45am

re: #621 ploome hineni

maybe the movie has gone off the deep end..?

actually, I sometimes have a problem watching the 'bodies' they find on TV programs like CSI

seems that they are getting gooier and more repulsive

Michael Moore is now on CSI?

635 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:42:56am

re: #603 Kosh's Shadow
Repo Man is one of my favorite movies. I still have it on VHS.

636 freetoken  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:43:27am

re: #615 Afrocity

. She is classless [...]

Maybe she is, maybe she isn't... but the article written is from that distinctly British upper-class view about decorum that goes with a country steeped in dealing with royalty. The Telegraph was taking even cheaper shots... about the Brown's visit to DC. The British blue-bloods don't quite know what to do with an American President and First Lady who don't really dig the whole "special relationship" thing.

637 Miss Trixie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:43:35am

aussie

I'm so glad it wasn't a stray horse or snake.....

How about stray Cricket players? :P

Morning, darls! :D

638 aussiemagpie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:44:19am

re: #592 Ford_Prefect

I actually linked it on my Facebook page.

Thanks for letting me know - and one day I'll learn how to link to my Facebook page too :-)

639 VioletTiger  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:44:40am

re: #633 realwest


I did not know them, but please pass on my regards and prayers.

640 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:44:44am

re: #627 VioletTiger

I heard that yesterday. Obambi doesn't have the nerve.

he should be hounded over this....not to seem petty but BO himself started this juvenile row, suggesting to American what we should watch and listen to....put up or shut up

641 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:44:45am

re: #602 Iron Fist

You must be one of those hillbillies the guy was talking about. ////

642 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:46:12am

re: #593 pingjockey

Vaya con Dios.
The son of Coumo is calling some Merril Lynch execs on the carpet to find out why they got huge bonuses while the company was sinking.

Maybe the Democrats should ask themselves why their party hacks at Fanny & Freddie enriched themselves on bonuses while creating the sub-prime mortgage crisi which caused this economic collapse?

Study Finds 'Extensive' Fraud at Fannie Mae

"The conduct of Mr. Raines, CFO Timothy Howard, and other members of the inner circle of senior executives at Fannie Mae was inconsistent with the values of responsibility, accountability, and integrity," the report said. "Those individuals engaged in improper earnings management in order to generate unjustified levels of compensation for themselves and other executives."


Or how about Obama's Chief of Staff,
Rahm Emanuel, and the work he did at Freddie Mac?


Emanuel was named to the Board of Directors for the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation ("Freddie Mac") by then President Bill Clinton in 2000. His position paid him $31,060 in 2000 and $231,655 in 2001.[29] During the time Emanuel spent on the board, Freddie Mac was plagued with scandals involving campaign contributions and accounting irregularities.[30] The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) later accused the board of having "failed in its duty to follow up on matters brought to its attention."


And how about Andrew Cuomo himself,

In the August 5, 2008 issue of The Village Voice, Wayne Barrett argued that Andrew Cuomo made a series of decisions between 1997 and 2001 that helped give birth to the country's current credit crisis:

"He took actions that—in combination with many other factors—helped plunge Fannie and Freddie into the subprime markets without putting in place the means to monitor their increasingly risky investments. He turned the Federal Housing Administration mortgage program into a sweetheart lender with sky-high loan ceilings and no money down, and he legalized what a federal judge has branded "kickbacks" to brokers that have fueled the sale of overpriced and unsupportable loans. Three to four million families are now facing foreclosure, and Cuomo is one of the reasons why."[19]


The hypocrisy of the Obama administration truly stinks!

643 VioletTiger  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:46:24am

re: #628 notutopia

It does look like even some Dems want to challenge the omnibus. Will make lib heads explode, no doubt.

644 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:46:58am

re: #633 realwest

My condolences realwest. I meant to say that last night. I give monthly contributions in the fight for breast cancer, this month I will up it in honor of your friend.

645 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:47:40am

re: #639 VioletTiger
Thank you very much VioletTiger I will surely do that.

646 Lincolntf  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:48:03am

re: #625 VioletTiger

She? Do her initials happen to be K.P. or K.L.?
I only ask because there are so few, and I know a couple.

647 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:48:10am
648 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:48:26am
Youtube Video

/just like any picnic

649 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:48:34am

re: #636 freetoken

Maybe she is, maybe she isn't... but the article written is from that distinctly British upper-class view about decorum that goes with a country steeped in dealing with royalty. The Telegraph was taking even cheaper shots... about the Brown's visit to DC. The British blue-bloods don't quite know what to do with an American President and First Lady who don't really dig the whole "special relationship" thing.

So Freetoken are you miffed with the American Thinker article as well?

Obama disses Brit PM
Rosslyn Smith
The press does not seem happy with the way President Obama treated Prime Minister Brown during his short visit to Washington, DC.
Dana Milbank of the Washington Post noted that

Somewhere in the British Embassy, a bronze bust of Churchill was turning in its storage crate.

British Prime ministers are just not treated this way by American presidents. They are personally greeted at the airport. THey are treated to state dinners or overnights at Camp David. Their private meetings are always followed by a long joint press conference in which members of each nation's press get to question both heads of state at length. If Milbank is a bit sour, his British counterpart left scorch marks. Alex Massie of the Spectator wrote .

Obama is not on the campaign trail any longer but his press strategy does not seem to have switched to governing mode yet.

650 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:48:56am

re: #644 Afrocity
And thank you, too, Afrocity.

651 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:49:28am

re: #633 realwest

I am very sorry for the loss of your friend. It is really something how the people here become are part of who we are, and how we miss them when they are not here.

652 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:49:40am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. A Palestinian terrorist attempted to use an earth mover to kill more Israelis, but an Israeli taxi driver came to the rescue and wounded the attacking terrorist sufficiently that cops could finish him off. The terrorists (or their copycats - there have been 3 such attacks in the past year) have killed four Israelis - all in the first attack, and in the successive attacks, only the attacking terrorist was killed.

It's a sign that the terrorists can't get their hands on explosives or through the checkpoints designed to keep terrorists out of Israel. They're left trying to come up with means to murder Israelis and are finding it increasingly difficult to accomplish even that. This isn't a sign that Palestinian terrorists have given up the ghost of murdering Israelis or that they're more peaceful now (a meme that deals with the relative lack of violence in the West Bank, but which ignores the constant Molotov cocktails thrown at Israeli security and regular clashes between stone throwers and Israelis) - only that Israelis are ever more effective in deterring terrorists access to Israel in the first place. Loosening travel restrictions, checkpoints, or removing security fencing will only enable the terrorists to resume their deadly goals of murdering and maiming Israelis.

653 notutopia  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:50:00am

re: #633 realwest

{realwest}
I will make a memorial donation in the name of ElderZionist to the American Cancer Society. My condolences to his wife and to you for the loss of your friend.

654 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:50:25am
655 VioletTiger  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:50:57am

re: #646 Lincolntf

She? Do her initials happen to be K.P. or K.L.?
I only ask because there are so few, and I know a couple.

No, actually, C.C.

656 Miss Trixie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:51:05am

{ {realwest} }

My deepest condolences to Elder's widow and to you on such a painful loss. I remember them well.

Rest in peace, Elder and may G*d comfort ChildofMary.

657 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:51:14am
658 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:51:35am

re: #651 Ford_Prefect
Thank you Ford - indeed, ChildofMary and ElderZionist will no doubt not bring back many memories here, but they each helped me personally with their friendship and support and my thoughts and prayers go out to ChildofMary and up for her husband ElderZionist.

659 VioletTiger  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:52:15am

re: #652 lawhawk

I saw that this morning. Just awful. I makes me want to scream when I think we are giving $$$ to this buttheads.

660 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:52:47am

Good morning!

OT – With The One’s foreign policy in general and Middle East policy in particular heading down the road to Bizzaro World at breakneck speed, I needed a laugh. This is a favorite link of mine and I hope it is one of yours. (My apologies if anyone had posted this already. I just needed a good laugh this morning.)

*** Having trouble finding just the right thing for the martyr on your list that seems to have everything? Well have we got the perfect gift* for any occasion! Your freedom fighter will be the envy of all his comrades down at the mosque!

*Kid tested, virgin approved.

661 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:53:06am

re: #653 notutopia
Thank you very much notutopia - your words and thoughts are of comfort to me. Thank you so much.

662 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:53:19am

re: #633 realwest
Damn. Thoughts and prayers to the family.

663 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:53:30am

While the market managed to crawl up a few points yesterday, it's dropped 100 points right off the bat this morning.

Heck of a job, Barry!

664 VioletTiger  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:53:43am

Have a great day friends. Off to see flowers and do a little economy stimulating.

665 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:53:51am

re: #635 Mad Al-Jaffee

Repo Man is one of my favorite movies. I still have it on VHS.

Same here. I just have to find the tape. I have a couple of boxes full, stuck in a closet.

/holy sheep shit!

666 aussiemagpie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:53:59am

re: #637 Miss Trixie

aussie


How about stray Cricket players? :P

Morning, darls! :D

Hello {Miss trixie} I'm still laughing at your comment ^^^about caffeine and voices in your head :-)

Of course Shane Warne is welcome at any time here!

667 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:54:10am

Realwest,

My deepest condolences to the family of ElderZionist.

668 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:54:39am

re: #656 Miss Trixie
Thanks {Miss Trixie} she is and he was the finest, kindest people you'd ever want to know; their generousity of spirit helped me enormously. Thank you.

669 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:54:41am

this guy should do time...imo...in an asylum


[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

670 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:55:08am

re: #635 Mad Al-Jaffee

Repo Man is one of my favorite movies. I still have it on VHS.

I recorded it off channel 38 when they didn't bleep it; now I have the DVD.
I read that the reason for all the generic products "food" "Drink" Beer" was because no company would give them items for "promotional consideration".
Only the Evergreen Auto Air Freshener company, so they had those all over the place.

Hey, have you ever heard of the book Doretix, the Science of Matter Over Mind?

671 nyc redneck  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:55:16am

re: #654 ploome hineni

of course her place is a dump..she has never ever used a closet

everything is on the floor

filthy.
she is demanding a free cleaning service.
maybe we should go over there w/ buckets and mops
while she sits around eating gov't cheese doodles.

672 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:55:58am

re: #665 Ward Cleaver
Tapes Ward? Tapes? WTH? Actually we have two of those giant plastic storage bins chock full of Disney movies from the early 90s.

673 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:56:01am

re: #662 pingjockey
Thank you ping.

674 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:56:12am

re: #642 Kenneth

Oh, it's even worse than that - the new homeowner "assistance" program is set up so that guess who is responsible for auditing the program for compliance: Freddie Mac. The same entities that are responsible for much of the credit mess, are now going to tell everyone that the homeowner assistance program is operating as promised?

675 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:56:37am

re: #667 Kenneth
Thanks a lot Kenneth.

676 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:56:51am

re: #633 realwest

I remember ChildOfMary. She is in my prayers. I hope that the new medication for fibromyalgia that's out will be able to help her. June had it, years ago, but hers was not debilitating. Exercising at the gym helped in her case.

677 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:57:04am

re: #673 realwest
You're welcome.

678 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:58:24am

re: #674 lawhawk
Everytime I see shit like this, I think about the doc at the end of Bridge on the river Kwai.......MADNESS!

679 bellamags  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:58:28am

re: #633 realwest

She will be in my prayers.

680 summergurl  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:58:49am

Nothing like a bit of bright news this morning regarding the FDIC insurance

Could Dry Up

681 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:59:07am

re: #669 albusteve

this guy should do time...imo...in an asylum

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Oh, that's terrible. How he could manage to shoot his son in the head is beyond. Always, always, check the gun before cleaning it.

682 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:59:23am

re: #633 realwest

Deepest sympathy to all of you.

683 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 6:59:46am

re: #680 summergurl

Nothing like a bit of bright news this morning regarding the FDIC insurance

Could Dry Up

Can you say, "run on the banks"? Sure, I knew you could.

684 CommonCents  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:00:05am

Some things are just so INSANE you can't imagine how they happen.

Foreign Ties of nominee for Chairman of the National Intelligence Council - Washington Times

Among the areas likely to be scrutinized in the vetting process are Mr. Freeman's position on the international advisory board of the China National Offshore Oil Corp. (CNOOC). The Chinese government and other state-owned companies own a majority stake in the concern, which has invested in Sudan and other countries sometimes at odds with the United States, including Iran.

Mr. Freeman is also president of the nonprofit educational organization Middle East Policy Council (MEPC), which paid him $87,000 in 2006, and received at least $1 million from a Saudi prince. He also has chaired Projects International, a consulting firm that has worked with foreign companies and governments.

685 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:00:10am

re: #681 Ward Cleaver
First thing dad and grampa taught me, "treat every gun as if it is loaded".

686 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:01:56am

And should this surprise anyone that GM is circling the drain and bankruptcy reorganization is increasingly likely despite the billions thrown at it by the Bush and Obama administrations? What a waste of taxpayer money. Bush threw the billions at the automakers to punt the problem to Obama, and Obama's solution is to consider throwing billions more.

Time to cut losses and protect American taxpayer money. No more bailouts. Stop the insanity of throwing good money at bad business decisions and bailing out those who should not be bailed out from their bad decisions.

GM, along with the unions, created this mess for themselves. Bad products and per-vehicle costs that make it simply impractical to turn profits on each vehicle. The unions would rather see massive layoffs than give back significant concessions on benefits that are the prime reason for the high per-vehicle costs. That means that even if the automaker reorganizes, they might still be stuck with high per-vehicle costs, instead of getting those costs down in line with non-union automakers who are much more likely to turn a profit.

Meanwhile, Ford is looking to pay down its debt and Honda and Toyota are looking to the Japanese government for loans so that they can have money on hand to provide financing to car buyers. I see that as a continuing function of tight credit and a need to stimulate buyers to come in.

687 ilzito guacamolito  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:01:58am

re: #669 albusteve

this guy should do time...imo...in an asylum


[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

What are the odds that kid happened to be home sick from school? Tragic.

688 FrogMarch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:02:17am

Washington is subsidizing all kind of whining now

689 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:02:29am

re: #684 CommonCents
Welcome to the obambi cabinet...A wholly owned subsidiary of China, the Unions, and socialists everywhere.

690 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:02:45am

re: #672 pingjockey

Tapes Ward? Tapes? WTH? Actually we have two of those giant plastic storage bins chock full of Disney movies from the early 90s.

I've got a bunch of Route 66 episodes (over 100) that I taped back in 1985-86, when they were on Nick At Nite. Now they're coming out on DVD (seasons one and two are already out, and three and four will come later).

691 UFO TOFU  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:02:54am

re: #633 realwest
Damn, I am so sorry to hear that. Send my condolences to ChildofMary. She used to drop in on the DDT occasionally, she seems like a very kind person.

693 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:03:00am

re: #685 pingjockey

First thing dad and grampa taught me, "treat every gun as if it is loaded".

Amen.

694 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:03:07am

re: #685 pingjockey

First thing dad and grampa taught me, "treat every gun as if it is loaded".

My Dad said something similar about other drivers when teaching me to drive.

695 aussiemagpie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:03:07am

re: #633 realwest

{Realwest} such sad news, losing such a dear friend

My condolences to Elder's widow and family, and hugs and *Smooch* for you

We support two cancer organisations here, and we will make a special donation in memory of your friend

696 notutopia  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:03:40am

I'm going to the store to buy some shrimp!
I'll arrange them on a plate for supper and see if it doesn't provide me a different gestault on life.
The problem with Obama is I still get a plate of shrimp, no matter how I arrange them!

Life is like a box a chocolates....

Youtube Video

Have a great Day All!
BBL

697 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:03:45am

The Cinema Show

/20 years in the biz and I still tear up, 364 days of original theatrical release ET will do that, we'd show up on Saturdays and they had been lining up for hours already

698 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:03:47am

re: #676 Ward Cleaver
Thanks Ward - I know that she keeps up with the latest in news and medications, but if you could remember the name of the new medication I'd be pleased to pass it along to her; it's an awful affliction.

699 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:04:10am

re: #674 lawhawk

The party that did the most to create the mess got elected to power, and will use the same institutions it used in creating the mess to clean up the mess.

No wonder my head hurts.

700 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:04:48am

re: #677 pingjockey No need for thanks ping - I truly appreciate your kind words and thoughts and I'm sure she will as well.

701 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:04:51am

Bernie Madoff's political contributions were overwhelmingly to Democrats and their causes.

I checked opensecrets.org and found old Bernie gave $182,250 to politicians and political causes over the year. That included $173,500 to Democrats and their causes.

His wife, Ruth, made $42,800 in donations — $32,250 to Democrats.

Among his Democratic Party friends are House Ways and Means Chairman and Tax Cheat Charles Rangel, Senator and Mortgage Manipulator Christopher Dodd and Sen. Chuck Schumer.

Once again my excuse for a Senator has his hand out in exactly the wrong spot.

702 FrogMarch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:05:13am

re: #686 lawhawk

...

GM, along with the unions, created this mess for themselves. Bad products and per-vehicle costs that make it simply impractical impossible to turn profits on each vehicle. The unions would rather see massive layoffs than give back significant concessions on benefits that are the prime reason for the high per-vehicle costs. That means that even if the automaker reorganizes, they might still be stuck with high per-vehicle costs, instead of getting those costs down in line with non-union automakers who are much more likely to turn a profit.
...

.


Indeed.
Obamanomics: Unions = good. Profits = bad.

703 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:05:17am

re: #633 realwest

Thanks for giving us this news, terrible as it is. Please express my condolences to ChildofMary.

704 Bloodnok  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:05:34am

re: #697 Killian Bundy

The Cinema Show

/20 years in the biz and I still tear up, 364 days of original theatrical release ET will do that, we'd show up on Saturdays and they had been lining up for hours already

Cool vid.

705 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:05:52am

re: #700 realwest
PIMF; Welcomes, not thanks. Sorry.

706 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:06:07am

re: #690 Ward Cleaver
We are showing our age! My younger bro called the other night....Hawaii 5-0 is out on DVD! When I first got my drivers license, Starsky and Hutch was huge, and my two younger brothers would add sound affects to my driving! Squealing tires, engine sounds, etc...

707 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:06:46am

re: #682 ilzito guacamolito
Thank you very much for those kind words.

708 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:06:48am

re: #694 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
That is good too. Told my 17 year old that last year.

709 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:07:07am

re: #681 Ward Cleaver

Oh, that's terrible. How he could manage to shoot his son in the head is beyond. Always, always, check the gun before cleaning it.

To me, the FIRST rule of gun safety (as expressed by, if I'm not mistaken, Jeff Cooper):

EVERY GUN IS ALWAYS LOADED, UNTIL YOU, PERSONALLY, VERIFY OTHERWISE.

710 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:07:33am

re: #709 Occasional Reader
ALWAYS!

711 Digital Display  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:07:39am

Good Morning Lizards!
Realwest..My heart is saddened by your #633 ..May childofmary find strength and grace during this difficult period.
You stay strong Real

712 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:07:48am

The Casualty Footprint of Conflicts

Stunning graphical representation comparing the number of casualties in the Israel-Arab wars, Darfur and the Congo.

///No wonder the world is so focused on the Palestinians.

713 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:07:52am

re: #686 lawhawk

And should this surprise anyone that GM is circling the drain and bankruptcy reorganization is increasingly likely despite the billions thrown at it by the Bush and Obama administrations? What a waste of taxpayer money. Bush threw the billions at the automakers to punt the problem to Obama, and Obama's solution is to consider throwing billions more.

Time to cut losses and protect American taxpayer money. No more bailouts. Stop the insanity of throwing good money at bad business decisions and bailing out those who should not be bailed out from their bad decisions.

GM, along with the unions, created this mess for themselves. Bad products and per-vehicle costs that make it simply impractical to turn profits on each vehicle. The unions would rather see massive layoffs than give back significant concessions on benefits that are the prime reason for the high per-vehicle costs. That means that even if the automaker reorganizes, they might still be stuck with high per-vehicle costs, instead of getting those costs down in line with non-union automakers who are much more likely to turn a profit.

Meanwhile, Ford is looking to pay down its debt and Honda and Toyota are looking to the Japanese government for loans so that they can have money on hand to provide financing to car buyers. I see that as a continuing function of tight credit and a need to stimulate buyers to come in.

I'm convinced that bankruptcy is inevitable for GM. The only divisions they really need are Chevrolet, Cadillac, and Buick. Sell off, or spin off Saab, Hummer, and Saturn, and kill Pontiac (it would be a mercy killing at this point) and GMC (which is merely badge-engineered Chevrolet products).

Ford will probably be the only one to survive mostly intact, thanks to Alan Mullaly. As for Chrysler, the Jeep brand is the salable thing they have. Eighty-six the rest.

714 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:09:38am

re: #684 CommonCents

Some things are just so INSANE you can't imagine how they happen.

Foreign Ties of nominee for Chairman of the National Intelligence Council - Washington Times

This guy has been in the pay of two of our enemies, Saudi Arabia and China. (I know, the Saudis are our fiends); he shouldn't be allowed near anything classified at all, or near anyone in office without being a registered lobbyist.

Let's see - foreign agents in charge of intelligence; tax cheat in charge of the IRS; I'm surprised Tony Soprano isn't Attorney General.
Is the administration really this dumb or are they out to destroy the country?

715 rightside  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:10:11am

re: #689 pingjockey


This one?

716 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:10:19am

re: #692 Occasional Reader

From the article:

The official said ICC's arrest warrants are not driving the work of the review team, but the action underscored the need to reach a decision quickly.

"There's a real sense of urgency. These things are hard but they're bringing everybody together," the official said.

Anyone ever tell Obama that haste makes waste? We sure are seeing that with this administration.

717 Lincolntf  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:10:32am

Totally OT, but do any of you veterans of the "nirther" stuff know if we know which hospital/home/whatever Obama was actually born in? I'm curious about the "Birthplace of Obama" becoming some sort of focal point/tourist destination/whatever...
I apologize if this is already common knowledge.

718 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:10:37am

re: #691 UFO TOFU
Thanks UFO TOFU - she did indeed do that and she is a very kind person, who's generousity of spirit is just one of her finest points.
As I said she, and ElderZionist, did a great deal to help me over the years and in my own, no doubt inadequate way, I tried to return the favor. Very fine and decent people.

719 FrogMarch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:10:40am

Obama tells unions that Card Check will pass this year

720 Digital Display  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:10:55am

re: #714 Kosh's Shadow

This guy has been in the pay of two of our enemies, Saudi Arabia and China. (I know, the Saudis are our fiends); he shouldn't be allowed near anything classified at all, or near anyone in office without being a registered lobbyist.

Let's see - foreign agents in charge of intelligence; tax cheat in charge of the IRS; I'm surprised Tony Soprano isn't Attorney General.
Is the administration really this dumb or are they out to destroy the country?


Drunk with power..wait till the hangover

721 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:10:58am

Looking for bargain stocks? Microsoft is at 15 bucks a share! Guy on FNC says the market will reach it's lowest level when the gov't says no more frickin' bailouts. AIG was at 20 in Oct. It's now at .50.

722 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:11:45am

re: #665 Ward Cleaver

I don't have a DVR or Tivo or anything like that. I still use my VCR to tape shows I don't want to miss.

723 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:11:50am

Morning Hoosier.

724 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:12:05am

re: #692 Occasional Reader

Good morning.

Obama is so "concerned" about the situation in Sudan, that maybe he'll have us join the International Criminal Court after all. So that our servicemen can be prosecuted for "war crimes" by foreigners.

That makes sense, right?

Why, with the 0ne in office, no other country would think of persecuting our fine soldiers.
/do I need to? And yes, the word choice was deliberate.

725 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:12:37am

re: #716 Ford_Prefect

From the article:


Anyone ever tell Obama that haste makes waste? We sure are seeing that with this administration.

And I literally laughed at my radio when I heard about the ICC "arrest warrants". I'm sure Bashir is on his way at this very moment to peacefully turn himself in, right?

726 Digital Display  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:12:41am

re: #723 Afrocity

Morning Hoosier.

Good Morning! Hope you are feeling much better today..

727 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:12:48am

re: #695 aussiemagpie
Hi {aussie} thanks for the *smooches* and hugs and for the donation to the Cancer Research folks down under. You're quite kind.

728 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:12:57am

re: #715 rightside
I dunno. I see tax cheats, folks with ridiculous ties to foreign gov'ts, it boggles the mind.

729 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:13:13am

re: #670 Kosh's Shadow

The edited for tv version is almost funnier.

"Flip you!"

730 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:13:30am

re: #698 realwest

Thanks Ward - I know that she keeps up with the latest in news and medications, but if you could remember the name of the new medication I'd be pleased to pass it along to her; it's an awful affliction.

Here it is. It's Lyrica, from Pfizer. It's a oral med, and it's listed for fibromyalgia, along with other causes of nerve ending pain, like the shingles.

731 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:14:11am

Is this silly? I just had to share. Ever since 9/11, whenever I happen to look at my clock and it says 9:11AM or PM I always say a prayer and thank God for keeping America safe from terrorists. It is hokey but I started doing it years ago.

732 Digital Display  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:14:13am

re: #728 pingjockey

I dunno. I see tax cheats, folks with ridiculous ties to foreign gov'ts, it boggles the mind.

the United States of Chicago..

733 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:14:29am

re: #703 Occasional Reader
Hi O.R., I will make sure that she receives all expressions of sympathy and condolences offered by you and others out here.

734 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:15:09am

re: #726 HoosierHoops

Good Morning! Hope you are feeling much better today..

I am my friend. I got paid a visit last night by Tony Zirkle. Strange but I straightened it out.

735 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:15:12am

re: #684 CommonCents

Some things are just so INSANE you can't imagine how they happen.

Foreign Ties of nominee for Chairman of the National Intelligence Council - Washington Times

Hey, I've got a couple of Armani ties, too, what's the big deal?

/

736 KenJen  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:15:19am

re: #731 Afrocity

Is this silly? I just had to share. Ever since 9/11, whenever I happen to look at my clock and it says 9:11AM or PM I always say a prayer and thank God for keeping America safe from terrorists. It is hokey but I started doing it years ago.

Not silly at all. I do the exact same thing.

737 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:15:25am

re: #731 Afrocity
It isn't hokey. It shows patriotism and thanks for our country.

738 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:15:26am

re: #711 HoosierHoops

Morning HH.

739 FrogMarch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:15:31am

re: #713 Ward Cleaver

I'm convinced that bankruptcy is inevitable for GM. The only divisions they really need are Chevrolet, Cadillac, and Buick. Sell off, or spin off Saab, Hummer, and Saturn, and kill Pontiac (it would be a mercy killing at this point) and GMC (which is merely badge-engineered Chevrolet products).

Ford will probably be the only one to survive mostly intact, thanks to Alan Mullaly. As for Chrysler, the Jeep brand is the salable thing they have. Eighty-six the rest.

Sounds good. Who makes Dodge? Is that GM or Chrystler?
I suspect Obama will give GM more $$$. Even though the UAW should be completely purged, Obama will throw GM another tax-wasting life line to save the UAW. For the big D - this is about saving their pay-to-play overlords.

740 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:15:44am

re: #711 HoosierHoops
Thank you Hoops - I know that she is surrounded by great friends and I'll stay as strong as I can, thanks again.

741 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:16:14am

re: #719 FrogMarch

Obama tells unions that Card Check will pass this year

Walmart's tagline will go from:

Save money. Live better.

To

Spend more. Thank Obama.

742 Digital Display  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:16:18am

re: #738 Ford_Prefect

Morning HH.

Good Morning Ford!

743 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:16:18am

re: #729 Mad Al-Jaffee

The edited for tv version is almost funnier.

"Flip you!"

So in that version, what is Layla's term of endearment for Otto, in place of "F*ckface"?

744 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:16:57am

re: #731 Afrocity

Is this silly? I just had to share. Ever since 9/11, whenever I happen to look at my clock and it says 9:11AM or PM I always say a prayer and thank God for keeping America safe from terrorists. It is hokey but I started doing it years ago.

Not at all. Never Forget. Whatever way you remember that day, it is important that you do remember.

745 J.S.  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:17:41am

re: #717 Lincolntf

Obama was born at the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children in Honolulu, Hawaii, United States.

746 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:17:52am

re: #734 Afrocity

I am my friend. I got paid a visit last night by Tony Zirkle. Strange but I straightened it out.

Tony "Happy Birthday, Adolf" Zirkle?!

Uh, what were the circumstances?

747 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:18:27am

re: #743 Kosh's Shadow

So in that version, what is Layla's term of endearment for Otto, in place of "F*ckface"?

I don't remember - haven't seen that version since the 80s. But I do remember the term "melon farmer" being used.

There's a great Mr. Show sketch about a edited for tv version of "Pallies" (a Goodfellas parody). I'm sure it's on YouTube, but I can't access that at work.

748 FrogMarch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:18:55am

Cramer - a lone voice against the Putin White House.

749 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:19:09am

re: #742 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Ford!

Hey, check out my number 338.

/sorry to those that have seen it, but I can't stop beaming.

750 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:19:39am

re: #746 Occasional Reader

OR, long story. He wont be bothering me again.

751 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:19:40am

re: #730 Ward Cleaver
Ah yes, Lyrica - I tried it - briefly - when I had shingles two years ago and it didn't help me at all and I know that ChildofMary tried it also, but to no avail in her case, either. Thank you, though for remembering the name of it.

752 Lincolntf  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:20:16am

re: #745 J.S.

Thanks. I was wondering if "they" were going to do a Lincoln-esque sort of designation at the spot.
But if it's in a still-functioning hospital, I guess that probably won't happen.

753 aussiemagpie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:20:19am

re: #727 realwest

Hi {aussie} thanks for the *smooches* and hugs and for the donation to the Cancer Research folks down under. You're quite kind.

Darls, this is one of the organisations we support (thanks to you)

754 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:21:02am

re: #739 FrogMarch

Sounds good. Who makes Dodge? Is that GM or Chrystler?
I suspect Obama will give GM more $$$. Even though the UAW should be completely purged, Obama will throw GM another tax-wasting life line to save the UAW. For the big D - this is about saving their pay-to-play overlords.

Dodge (started by the Dodge brothers, John and Horace) is Chrysler. Theoretically, the minivans are something GM might want (they've never built a minivan that wasn't an also-ran, from the Lumina APV, to the Venture/Uplander), but they would have to re-engineer the products to use GM drivetrains, and integrate them into the product lines (as Chevrolets).

755 J.S.  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:21:02am

re: #633 realwest

My condolences to ChildofMary. I am sorry to hear of the loss of your friend, RealWest. My condolences.

756 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:21:16am

re: #731 Afrocity
There is nothing "hokey" about it as far as I'm concerned; it's just sad to me that so many people seem to have forgotten altogether.

757 Golem Akbar  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:21:56am

Good morning, Lizzies. Check out the view from the mount.

758 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:22:06am

Apparently God didn't need a dude in a hard hat. Video on FNC. Semi truck pulls out in front of a train, train hits semi on right side. Guy standing to left of truck. Truck trailer knocks him down, goes over him. Just bumps and bruises.

759 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:22:27am

re: #734 Afrocity
Hey what ever happened with Zirkle anyway - did the cops come and talk to you?

760 SurferDoc  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:22:28am

re: #709 Occasional Reader

To me, the FIRST rule of gun safety (as expressed by, if I'm not mistaken, Jeff Cooper):

EVERY GUN IS ALWAYS LOADED, UNTIL YOU, PERSONALLY, VERIFY OTHERWISE.

Exactly!

761 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:22:28am

re: #670 Kosh's Shadow

I recorded it off channel 38 when they didn't bleep it; now I have the DVD.
I read that the reason for all the generic products "food" "Drink" Beer" was because no company would give them items for "promotional consideration".
Only the Evergreen Auto Air Freshener company, so they had those all over the place.

Hey, have you ever heard of the book Doretix, the Science of Matter Over Mind?

Tracy Walter is one of the best things about that movie.

/you find one in every car

762 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:22:44am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

I just had a quick skip through the headlines, and my 'bastard MFM'-ometer shot up when I saw this:
Bulldozer driver rams police car in Jerusalem 'terror attack'

Note how they write it: 'terror attack'.
So - if its in Jerusalem, aimed at Jews, with palis the perps, its not really terror, it just looks like it.
If its anywhere else, and no Jews are on the receiving end, its propper terror, even though the jihadist terrorists are simple gunmen ...

Don't you luurrve the MFM!

763 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:23:07am

re: #750 Afrocity

OR, long story. He wont be bothering me again.

I certainly hope not.

Any Nazi sympathizers showing up at my door would quickly get introduced to my close Jewish friend, Mr. Mossberg.

764 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:23:17am

re: #757 Golem Akbar

Good morning, Lizzies. Check out the view from the mount.

You know I have been trying to find a decent camera to link to here in CT without success. The only things I can find are DOT cameras on the highways. Pathetic.

765 smokin' hamster  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:23:58am

I'm not making this up:

I own a liquor store, and right now we have a special on little airplane bottles of rum. The sign on the big glass jar says "Shot O' Rum"

This morning I looked at it and thought, you know, I ought to do a sign with a take-off of the Repo Man scene at the burning trash barrel. Something like, 'say you're thinking about a shot o' rum, and someone will tell you "shot" or "rum" or "shot o' rum:" you better just buy one of these.'

Then I sit down to check the news, and lo, it's this scene as the overnight hopen.

I never believed in the cosmic unconsciousness until now.

766 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:23:59am

Stupid Newsweek article, #47, 989

An interactive map titled "The State of Islam" shows only some of the Muslim countries around the world and the corresponding levels of religious freedom. The one "Muslim" country shown as a "Free" is the Philippines, which is not a Muslim country but is 90 % Christian. However, the Muslim minority (8% of the population), enjoys full religious freedom in the Philipines. Also missing is the country with the largest Muslim population in the world, India. India is a multi-religious country which also scored as Free.

No actual Muslim country scores as free.

767 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:24:01am

re: #704 Bloodnok

re: #734 Afrocity

I got paid a visit last night by Tony Zirkle. Strange but I straightened it out.

How'd you do that exactly?

/lots of LGF people, worried last night, entitled to an explanation

768 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:24:24am

re: #761 Ward Cleaver

Tracy Walter is one of the best things about that movie.

/you find one in every car

Yes; great character actor. Strange, but I was watching some Brisco County, and recognized him.

I still catch things in the movie every time I see it.

Let's go get sushi and not pay for it.

769 FrogMarch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:24:42am

re: #754 Ward Cleaver

aha. Thanks.

770 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:25:15am

re: #763 Occasional Reader

Any Nazi sympathizers showing up at my door would quickly get introduced to my close Jewish friend, Mr. Mossberg.

[Anticipating: yes, yes, I know, it's actually a Swedish name... a little poetic license here...]

771 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:25:30am

re: #756 realwest

There is nothing "hokey" about it as far as I'm concerned; it's just sad to me that so many people seem to have forgotten altogether.

9/11 and the left's reaction to it or lack thereof was the beginning of the end with myself and the DNC. Obama has their nominee drew a clearer line of demarcation between my values and those of the party.

772 CommonCents  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:25:55am

re: #714 Kosh's Shadow

This guy has been in the pay of two of our enemies, Saudi Arabia and China. (I know, the Saudis are our fiends); he shouldn't be allowed near anything classified at all, or near anyone in office without being a registered lobbyist.

Let's see - foreign agents in charge of intelligence; tax cheat in charge of the IRS; I'm surprised Tony Soprano isn't Attorney General.
Is the administration really this dumb or are they out to destroy the country?

Is that a rhetorical question?

773 DawnofTruth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:26:20am

re: #490 Afrocity

Afrocity, Another aspect that does not get enough attention, My grandson lived with me for 2 years, I was unable to put him on my health Insurance through work. How many grandparents are raising their grandchildren and have no access to health insurance. I am willing to bet the percentage is greater than the number of gays not able to insure their partners.

774 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:26:38am

re: #765 smokin' hamster

I'm not making this up:

I own a liquor store, and right now we have a special on little airplane bottles of rum. The sign on the big glass jar says "Shot O' Rum"

This morning I looked at it and thought, you know, I ought to do a sign with a take-off of the Repo Man scene at the burning trash barrel. Something like, 'say you're thinking about a shot o' rum, and someone will tell you "shot" or "rum" or "shot o' rum:" you better just buy one of these.'

Then I sit down to check the news, and lo, it's this scene as the overnight hopen.

I never believed in the cosmic unconsciousness until now.

It would be really strange if someone pulls up in a 64 Chevy Malibu and gets some of them. Especially if he tells you not to open the trunk.

775 acwgusa  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:26:58am

The voices in my head are idiots! Must be Democrats.

/Just one really annoying voice in my head, my own.

776 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:27:01am

re: #759 realwest

Hey what ever happened with Zirkle anyway - did the cops come and talk to you?

They came and told me he was most likely canvasing.
I called his office this morning and spoke with him. He said there was a mix up and he had the wrong "me" ie someone with my name but not me. My name is pretty uncommon but whatever, he apologized.

777 FrogMarch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:27:14am

re: #748 FrogMarch

Cramer - a lone voice against the Putin White House.

Cramers big money quote:

Look at the incredible decline in the stock market, in all indices, since the inauguration of the president, with the drop accelerating when the budget plan came to light because of the massive fear and indecision the document sowed: Raising taxes on the eve of what could be a second Great Depression, destroying the profits in healthcare companies (one of the few areas still robust in the economy), tinkering with the mortgage deduction at a time when U.S. house price depreciation is behind much of the world's morass and certainly the devastation affecting our banks, and pushing an aggressive cap and trade program that could raise the price of energy for millions of people.

guards - seize him!

778 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:27:29am

re: #762 yma o hyd

Don't you luurrve the MFM!

And in addition to their bias, there's also their legendary fact-checking.

Once again... that's not a "bulldozer".

779 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:27:41am

I just love when the leftists battle each other. Prop 8 in Kali. The gays don't realize a whole bunch of Christian blacks and Latinos voted against gay marriage.

780 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:27:43am

re: #753 aussiemagpie
That looks like a fine organization but as I tell my NYC oncologist (who is now heavily involved in prostate cancer research) FASTER, PLEASE!
:)

781 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:28:07am

re: #771 Afrocity

9/11 and the left's reaction to it or lack thereof was the beginning of the end with myself and the DNC.

Me, too.

782 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:28:25am

re: #705 realwest

Hi {rw}!

Just came online and saw your sad news.
Please give ChildofMary my deepest sympathies, even though I never met her or her late husband here on LGF.
I know what she is going through - and she is in my prayers as I type.

I hope you are well, rw!

783 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:28:34am

re: #755 J.S.
Thank you very much J.S. - your thoughts are greatly appreciated.

784 phoenixgirl  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:29:12am

{realwest} give her my condolences

785 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:29:38am

re: #734 Afrocity

I am my friend. I got paid a visit last night by Tony Zirkle. Strange but I straightened it out.

How, exactly, did you do that?

/last night . . .

786 coquimbojoe  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:29:43am

re: #783 realwest

Thank you very much J.S. - your thoughts are greatly appreciated.

Hey RW, sad news, but how are YOU?

787 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:29:45am

Like most of you, I'm looking for somewhere safe to invest what little capital I have left. So imagine my delight at this email which just arrived in my inbox:

Hello my friend,

I am Mohammad Hazim an oil merchant in IRAQI, I would need you to help
me out from an urgent situation, which the almighty Allah will bless
you as you listen to my cry to respond back to me immediately so I can
give you details on how you can help me out. Please I would appreciate
to receive your urgent response at the below email address.

May the almighty Allah be with you
Regards,
Mohammad Hazim

Sounds like easy money to me. What could possibly go wrong?

788 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:29:55am

re: #766 Kenneth

No actual Muslim country scores as free.

IIRC the only majority-Muslim country with legally guaranteed freedom of religion is Turkey.

789 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:30:10am

re: #778 Occasional Reader
Anything big and yellow, or not, That is earthmoving equipment, is to the msm a bulldozer. It's like when they talk about the military and call an APC a tank, or a cruiser a frigate. Sheesh, call someone and ask what the hell it is.

790 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:30:45am

J. Frank Parnell: Ever been to Utah? Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you. Pernicious nonsense. Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year. They ought to have them, too. When they canceled the project it almost did me in. One day my mind was full to bursting. The next day - nothing. Swept away. But I'll show them. I had a lobotomy in the end.

Otto: Lobotomy? Isn't that for loonies?

Parnell: Not at all. Friend of mine had one. Designer of the neutron bomb. You ever hear of the neutron bomb? Destroys people - leaves buildings standing. Fits in a suitcase. It's so small, no one knows it's there until - BLAMMO. Eyes melt, skin explodes, everybody dead. So immoral, working on the thing can drive you mad. That's what happened to this friend of mine. So he had a lobotomy. Now he's well again.

791 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:31:07am

re: #773 DawnofTruth

Afrocity, Another aspect that does not get enough attention, My grandson lived with me for 2 years, I was unable to put him on my health Insurance through work. How many grandparents are raising their grandchildren and have no access to health insurance. I am willing to bet the percentage is greater than the number of gays not able to insure their partners.

Thank God Dawn. Someone responded to my post. I thought I was an idiot.
Exactly, why is it that gays can add a domestic partner (non blood relative, not legally married) yet you cannot add your grandson. See maybe this is how the GOP should go. Don't fight against their rights as gays, fight for our rights to choose whoever we wish to insure whether that be your mom or dad, older dependent child, grandchild, elderly aunt, etc,. Isn't a gay partner a friend that you are in a relationship with? So why are straight couples who live together not entitled to the same rights?

792 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:31:37am

re: #766 Kenneth I thought the country with the largest Muslim population was Indonesia, no?!

793 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:31:49am

re: #712 Kenneth

The Casualty Footprint of Conflicts

Stunning graphical representation comparing the number of casualties in the Israel-Arab wars, Darfur and the Congo.

///No wonder the world is so focused on the Palestinians.

Thanks for this link - it needs to be widely read.
I am always staggered by the comparison especially between Darfur and Gaza, but nobody in the moonbat sphere ever bothers to think about it.

Can one say that LLL lack in humanity?

794 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:32:02am

re: #779 pingjockey

I just love when the leftists battle each other. Prop 8 in Kali. The gays don't realize a whole bunch of Christian blacks and Latinos voted against gay marriage.

And also voted for Obama. Something that the "moderates" on the right seem to forget when blaming social conservatives for the loss in 2008.

795 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:33:32am

re: #792 realwest
IIRC, Indonesia doesn't have religious freedom. Unless you're a muslim!

796 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:33:36am

re: #760 SurferDoc

Exactly!

As an added precaution... and I think this is a good idea, don't see why it wouldn't be... I've taken to simply taping a note to the stock of the aforementioned Mr. Mossberg that says "LOADED! CARGADA!", on the off chance that anyone, for any reason, including the Spanish-speaking gals who show up to clean every two weeks, should SOMEHOW come across Mr. Mossberg and SOMEHOW, for some reason, get the cable lock off.

797 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:33:39am

re: #748 FrogMarch

Cramer - a lone voice against the Putin White House.

Wow. Another guy who has awakened to the reality of Obama.

798 acwgusa  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:33:57am


Office of Inadequate Security

Remember folks, Obama wants to assemble a Federal Database of American's health care records, run by the same crack IT security specialists that ran his campaign website.

799 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:34:22am

re: #787 Kenneth

Like most of you, I'm looking for somewhere safe to invest what little capital I have left. So imagine my delight at this email which just arrived in my inbox:

Sounds like easy money to me. What could possibly go wrong?

Well, nothing, obviously!
Esp. since his note says Allah will bless you.

800 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:34:32am

re: #794 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
The socons were not the only reason McCain lost.

801 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:34:38am

re: #785 Killian Bundy

How, exactly, did you do that?

/last night . . .

Killian you satisfied with my answer? #776.
Do you want to call the guy and give my name to see if it really happened?
If you want to see if I am real I am Afrocity on facebook. There you can find pics of myself my family, friends, my views etc.

802 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:34:46am

re: #782 yma o hyd
Thank you {yma} - I'm doing ok, thanks. Hope you are well today.

803 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:35:28am

re: #784 phoenixgirl
Thanks {phoenixgirl} I will do that.

804 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:36:05am

re: #793 yma o hyd

Thanks for this link - it needs to be widely read.
I am always staggered by the comparison especially between Darfur and Gaza, but nobody in the moonbat sphere ever bothers to think about it.

Can one say that LLL lack in humanity?

What they lack in humanity they make up for in anti-Semitism.

805 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:37:27am
806 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:37:51am
807 FrogMarch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:38:20am

re: #797 Ward Cleaver

Wow. Another guy who has awakened to the reality of Obama.

If you read to the end - Cramer is a huge democrat who supports democrats and voted for Obama.

"I supported the democrat-- and now the democrat is a acting like a ... Democrat. I'm so disappointed!" At least Cramer has been rattled awake.

808 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:38:23am

re: #801 Afrocity

If you want to see if I am real I am Afrocity on facebook.

I still don't quite "get" Facebook. Call me old-fashioned, but I'd rather NOT expose personal information for the entire planet to see!

809 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:38:43am

Morning all.

Just had a "discussion" with one of my neighbors about the fine work our president-in-training is doing.

I'd say "argument" because I have argued with this guy before. This time he was almost contrite.

He admits that Obama is not a centrist and that McCain was the authentic centrist in the election. Got the standard "Bush caused it" bit, but then I asked him about Europe. Asked him why we were screwing over allies who had recently bled to support the alliance.

He was a bit shocked. I pointed out the recent effort to bargain away the Pole's and the Czech's to Russia and the complete disrespect shown to the UK. He was stunned - "what?" So I said I would go home and send him links.

Just got his email - "I am both shocked and ashamed."

This was a "we must work with our allies" guy.

We must turn the centrists against Obama. The MSM is still hiding the ball.

810 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:39:14am

re: #768 Kosh's Shadow

Yes; great character actor. Strange, but I was watching some Brisco County, and recognized him.

I still catch things in the movie every time I see it.

Let's go get sushi and not pay for it.

I never got to watch much of Brisco County when it was on (it lasted all of one season), but I'd like to catch it on DVD. NBC has used the closing credits music from the show in their Olympics broadcasts.

811 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:39:31am

re: #806 ploome hineni
The recession is for the little people, not the courtiers in DC.

812 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:39:38am

re: #802 realwest

Thank you {yma} - I'm doing ok, thanks. Hope you are well today.

We're ok, {rw}, thanks - cold but ok!
Muddy pawprints everywhere - thats what happens if one starts turning over the soil in the back garden to be ready for spring sowing ...

813 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:40:00am

re: #776 Afrocity

They came and told me he was most likely canvasing.
I called his office this morning and spoke with him. He said there was a mix up and he had the wrong "me" ie someone with my name but not me. My name is pretty uncommon but whatever, he apologized.

Glad to hear you got this straightened out. Really weird that he would have come calling so late in the evening. Really odd too, that he had the wrong "you" but your address.

814 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:40:00am

re: #806 ploome hineni

what recession?

who recession? not the Nobamas'....they arrived!

Banks that receive taxpayer money throwing parties = bad. Presidents that receive taxpayer money throwing parties = good. Got it. And a record cold February means that the Earth is warming. I'm starting to get the hang of this.

815 aussiemagpie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:40:08am

re: #780 realwest

That looks like a fine organization but as I tell my NYC oncologist (who is now heavily involved in prostate cancer research) FASTER, PLEASE!
:)

You'll be OK darls, as didn't your President say he was going to find a cure for cancer? And he better do it quick as he's outta there in 4 years!


Seriously, there is a huge prostate cancer awareness campaign here - with many footy teams supporting this

I just wish all that money thrown at mythical global warming/climate chaos BS would go to something REAL like finding a cure for cancer

816 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:40:23am

re: #807 FrogMarch

If you read to the end - Cramer is a huge democrat who supports democrats and voted for Obama.

"I supported the democrat-- and now the democrat is a acting like a ... Democrat. I'm so disappointed!" At least Cramer has been rattled awake.

He wants Obama to wait until the markets return to health, then punish the rich.

817 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:40:24am

re: #804 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

What they lack in humanity they make up for in anti-Semitism.

Make that Jew Hate, and its spot on!

818 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:40:57am

re: #796 Occasional Reader

As an added precaution... and I think this is a good idea, don't see why it wouldn't be... I've taken to simply taping a note to the stock of the aforementioned Mr. Mossberg that says "LOADED! CARGADA!", on the off chance that anyone, for any reason, including the Spanish-speaking gals who show up to clean every two weeks, should SOMEHOW come across Mr. Mossberg and SOMEHOW, for some reason, get the cable lock off.

I keep mine loaded, emtpy chamber, safety on....right next to my bed....alas I have no cleaning ladies

819 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:41:37am
820 pingjockey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:41:51am

Later folks. Y'all have a fine Thursday/Friday.

821 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:42:38am

re: #814 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Banks that receive taxpayer money throwing parties = bad. Presidents that receive taxpayer money throwing parties = good. Got it. And a record cold February means that the Earth is warming. I'm starting to get the hang of this.

And let me wish you a hearty "goodbye!", to welcome you to the thread.

/Bizarro World

822 FrogMarch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:43:12am

re: #816 Ward Cleaver

He wants Obama to wait until the markets return to health, then punish the rich.

Cramer is right, though. any idiot knows that you don't raise taxes during an economic down turn.


But Obama has undeniably made things worse by creating an atmosphere of fear and panic rather than an atmosphere of calm and hope. He's done it by pushing a huge amount of change at a very perilous moment, by seeking to demonize the entire banking system and by raising taxes for those making more than $250,000 at the exact time when we need them to spend and build new businesses, and by revoking deductions for funds to charity that help eliminate the excess supply of homes.

We had a banking crisis coming into this regime, but now every area is in crisis. Each day is worse than the previous one for this miserable economy and while Obama's champions cite the stimulus plan, it's really just a hodgepodge of old Democratic pork and will not create nearly as many manufacturing or service jobs as we hoped. China's stimulus plan is the model; ours is the parody.

823 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:43:16am

re: #786 coquimbojoe
Yes, it is very sad. He was 64 years old and an Air Force Vietnam Veteran - we had a great deal in common. And I'm doing ok, thanks, still in somewhat of a state of shock. Last e-mail I had from him ws to never give up the fight and he never did, his body just couldn't handle anymore.
Thanks for the kind thoughts.

824 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:43:27am

re: #680 summergurl

Nothing like a bit of bright news this morning regarding the FDIC insurance

Could Dry Up

The perfect storm. Step-one: Yesterday Japan announced they'd be dipping into their trillion dollar forex reserves(primarily US Treasuries) to pump, maybe, 5 billion dollar's into Japanese companies operating in developed countries.

Step-Two: China begins dipping into their forex reserves - US treasuries again - to pump billions of dollars into their declining economy.

Step-Three: Japan & China discover no Pusholine™ in dollar because Obummer has the peddle-to-the-metal printing dollars.

825 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:43:39am

re: #810 Ward Cleaver

I never got to watch much of Brisco County when it was on (it lasted all of one season), but I'd like to catch it on DVD. NBC has used the closing credits music from the show in their Olympics broadcasts.

Brisco County is (or was) available on DVD. Great show; a western with science fiction elements. Lord Bowler does steal his scenes, though. "Oh, Brisco..."
And who can't like a show that has appearances by John Astin as a crazy scientist?

826 FrogMarch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:44:03am

re: #816 Ward Cleaver

He wants Obama to wait until the markets return to health, then punish the rich.

*spit* It will never work.

827 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:44:31am

re: #788 Occasional Reader

Turkey only scores as "partly free". Apostasy from Islam is still illegal as is blasphemy of Islam. Legal limits on Christians & Jews continue. Outside the law, there is frequent violence against non-Muslims in Turkey. While technically illegal, the authorities rarely prosecute the perpetrators.

828 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:44:35am

re: #818 albusteve

I keep mine loaded, emtpy chamber, safety on....right next to my bed....alas I have no cleaning ladies

CLEANING WOMAN!

829 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:44:44am

re: #806 ploome hineni

what recession?

who recession? not the Nobamas'....they arrived!

They may have arrived - but they show thie total lack of class and grace.

Here's a brief story about WAB and Mrs Gordon Brown, who met during that visit.
Mrs Brown choose some lovely gifts for WAB's daughters - but she just got some plastic helicopter models from the White House gift shop for the Brown boys.

Read it all here:
First Lady Michelle Obama shows even she has a gift for the gaffe

830 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:45:01am
831 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:45:07am

re: #819 ploome hineni

their behavior is so pretentious and exploitative

And disturbingly dismissive and rude to our friends.

832 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:45:33am

A support group for bitter pundits disappointed in Obama is quickly becoming necessary.

Chris Buckley is in mourning over the loss of fiscal sobriety and the sense he has enabled a spend-aholic:
Maureen Dowd has multiple complaints. She’s miffed that the post-racial president’s attorney general is playing the race card and she too has had it on the spending and business-as-usual fronts:
Then there’s David Brooks who like Michael Douglas in Fatal Attraction, sounds like he is quite remorseful to have chosen the wrong date. Looking for a moderate, he wound up with a crazed leftist:
And then there’s David Gergen who frets that not enough time is being spent on the economy (oh, that) and too much on an overly ambitious agenda. So he calls for a “course correction.”
Andrew Sullivan, back from his investigative work on the Sarah Palin pregnancy, has now discovered the fiscal conservatives have been had. Alas, his hopes for fiscal sobriety are being washed away in a spending spree worthy of a drunken sailor:
Meanwhile, Marty Peretz, who attested to candidate Obama’s pro-Israel and tough foreign policy bona fides during the campaign, now is incensed the president has put into a high level national security post Chas Freeman, the Israel-bashing toady of the Saudis who assigned responsibility “both ways” for 9/11 and bemoaned the Chinese didn’t crack down on the Tiananmen Square protesters quick enough. He pleads with the president to dump Freeman and writes in language as bitter as any scorned lover:

Eyes are opening all over the place.

833 CommonCents  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:45:38am

re: #822 FrogMarch

We had a banking crisis coming into this regime, but now every area is in crisis. Each day is worse than the previous one for this miserable economy and while Obama's champions cite the stimulus plan, it's really just a hodgepodge of old Democratic pork and will not create nearly as many manufacturing or service jobs as we hoped. China's stimulus plan is the model; ours is the parody.

You are mashing the great one's words. He said create or save 3.5 million jobs. How many people work for the federal government?

834 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:46:07am

re: #822 FrogMarch

One thing that I haven't seen pointed out yet.

Obama's white grandmother (the woman who raised him) was a banker.

The man has no shame.

835 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:46:20am

re: #813 reine.de.tout

Glad to hear you got this straightened out. Really weird that he would have come calling so late in the evening. Really odd too, that he had the wrong "you" but your address.

Said he was looking for my name but the person was born in year after me. He apologized was gracious about it.
Killian asked me not to call but I did because I did not want him coming back. I live in doorman apt. If he came back they would call me every time he did, or even worse sometimes we have substitute doormen and they let anyone up. Once I hear a knock at my door, but no doorman call I usually assume it is my neighbor who comes by often or the custodian and I just yell its open. I would have flipped out if it was a stranger that walked in.

836 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:47:12am

re: #801 Afrocity

Killian you satisfied with my answer? #776.

Sure, so last night wasn't the crisis you made it out to be?

If you want to see if I am real I am Afrocity on facebook. There you can find pics of myself my family, friends, my views etc.

You're allowed to have an Afrocity Facebook account?

/gee, they were real strict with me, not allowing Killian Bundy and confining me to my real name

837 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:49:16am

re: #834 karmic_inquisitor

A banker, and a typical white person.

838 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:49:44am

re: #832 Ford_Prefect

Bit late, that eye-opening - especially as so many here had theirs wide open for a year!

839 aussiemagpie  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:50:00am

Bedtime here so I'll drag my tired and cranky self off to bed...

Have a wonderful yesterday {everyone}!

Tonight's view of OZ for you

Margaret River wine region in Western Australia - a beautiful part of the country

840 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:50:01am

Dow -148, SPX -17, Compx -29.

841 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:50:54am

re: #808 Occasional Reader

I'm on facebook after the mrs started her own acct. I keep the security settings maxed out - limiting who sees what. It's good for keeping in touch with friends and family, and it can be good for networking, but then again, if I haven't seen you in years... there may be a damned good reason...

842 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:51:11am

re: #836 Killian Bundy

Killian whatever if I did anything to offend you my apologies.
Yep I registered with Afrocity Brown.

843 J.S.  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:51:55am

re: #827 Kenneth

And, in Turkey, the second largest religious group (after the Sunnis) are the Alevi...and the Alevi have been persecuted for a long time....

844 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:51:57am

DOW is down again by over 140 points - I dunno, doesn't it make you feel see-sick (pun intended) to watch it gyrate up and down like a drunken sailor?

845 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:51:59am

re: #840 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Dow -148, SPX -17, Compx -29.

Stop spreading your Obamanist optimism here. /

Don't you know it's a buy opportunity. Mayor Mike Bloomberg says so, so it must be true. /

846 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:52:05am

re: #808 Occasional Reader
Hey Old Fashioned! LOL! I feel the same way. I kinda let it all (or most of it) all hang out here, but I really don't like the entire concept of Facebook.
I know it's all voluntary, but still and all, anything that gets closer to a "national data base" which can, of course, be "nationalized" just scares the bejeebus out of me!

847 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:52:30am

re: #842 Afrocity

Killian whatever if I did anything to offend you my apologies.
Yep I registered with Afrocity Brown.

I think I know your brother, Charlie. He has a mean girlfriend, keeps moving the footabll every time Charlie want to kick it!

848 lawhawk  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:52:41am

re: #712 Kenneth

Heck, more people have been killed in the Thai insurgency in the past three years than in the Palestinian war against Israel for the past decade.

849 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:53:01am

re: #840 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Dow -148, SPX -17, Compx -29.

Wait until tomorrow when the unemployment statistics come out.
Dow 6,000 here we come!

850 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:53:40am

re: #832 Ford_Prefect

A support group for bitter pundits disappointed in Obama is quickly becoming necessary.

Eyes are opening all over the place.

Another pundit has described the RINOs who fell for Obama as " the kids in school who were on the fringes of being popular, but were nobody’s idea of cool. The cool kids let them hang around, because they knew they could talk the RINO’s into throwing rad parties, and the RINO’s would be the ones who got flak from the parentals. Sweet!"

851 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:53:47am

re: #842 Afrocity

Afrocity Brown

Dare I mention that this is a GREAT name for a character in a 1970s "blaxploitation" movie?

852 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:53:53am

re: #838 yma o hyd

Bit late, that eye-opening - especially as so many here had theirs wide open for a year!

Yes, but those rose tinted glasses the left wears tend to block out certain kinds of light.

853 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:54:03am

re: #847 sattv4u2

I think I know your brother, Charlie. He has a mean girlfriend, keeps moving the footabll every time Charlie want to kick it!

LOL . If I were a Peanuts character wouldn't my brother be Franklin? Though Lucy was my favorite.

854 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:54:07am

re: #844 yma o hyd

DOW is down again by over 140 points - I dunno, doesn't it make you feel see-sick (pun intended) to watch it gyrate up and down like a drunken sailor?

Up and down I can handle. What makes me ill is the down and down and down and down...

855 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:54:08am

re: #809 karmic_inquisitor
Great work karmic! Taking back America, one vote at a time!
Now if only some of those who've seen the light were MSM anchors and reporters - like Cramer, but not so Leftist tinged to begin with.

856 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:54:25am
857 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:54:33am
858 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:55:27am

re: #846 realwest

Hey Old Fashioned! LOL! I feel the same way. I kinda let it all (or most of it) all hang out here, but I really don't like the entire concept of Facebook.
I know it's all voluntary, but still and all, anything that gets closer to a "national data base" which can, of course, be "nationalized" just scares the bejeebus out of me!

Same here, rw, same here!
And the occasional reports that its been hacked do nothing to increase my confidence.

Tbh, I rather hang out here in Lizardia!

:-))

859 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:56:11am

re: #851 Occasional Reader

Dare I mention that this is a GREAT name for a character in a 1970s "blaxploitation" movie?

I was looking over some old files the other day & found a Comcast work order that I swear was signed by "Atomic Gonzales."

860 avanti  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:56:29am

re: #849 Honorary Yooper

Wait until tomorrow when the unemployment statistics come out.
Dow 6,000 here we come!

7000 plus by end of month is my bet.

861 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:56:36am

re: #851 Occasional Reader

Dare I mention that this is a GREAT name for a character in a 1970s "blaxploitation" movie?

Someone else said that to me on facebook. I hate blaxploitation films but I loved Pam Grier- especially in Jackie Brown. I went to facebook and it asked for two names. Afrocity is my screen name and Brown I just pulled from the sky. I was Afrocity on the PUMA radio show I did so I kept it.

862 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:57:00am

re: #852 Ford_Prefect

Yes, but those rose tinted glasses the left wears tend to block out certain kinds of light.

Yep, and lets not forget the industrial-strength blinkers they've put on as well!

863 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:57:00am

re: #843 J.S.

I didn't know about them. I'm always happy to learn new stuff. Thanks.

864 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:57:16am

re: #814 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey and of course, let's criticize big time CEO's for having lavish parties, but when a major Union (UAW, iirc) has it's annual meeting at a VERY EXPENSIVE HOTEL IN MIAMI NOW, right NOW, we ought not to talk about that.
This is what I've said so often about Obama - the Chicago Way will only get a STUPID PERSON so far and he's rapidly reaching the end of his tether.

865 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:57:26am

re: #859 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I was looking over some old files the other day & found a Comcast work order that I swear was signed by "Atomic Gonzales."

Wasn't he the one who helps Dolomite rescue Afrocity Brown from "The Man"?

866 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:57:40am

re: #832 Ford_Prefect

That is a great article. Read it last night.

When you look at all of the different names - Buckley, Cramer, Dowd, Gergen, and more - you see that it is not a small group of a particular ideology. The cracks are in many places.

867 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:58:24am

re: #861 Afrocity

I hate blaxploitation films

Try to look at them the same way I look at "Irish Spring" commercials...

868 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:58:32am

re: #860 avanti

7000 plus by end of month is my bet.

What do you base this on? Mine is based on the overall trend to date, and the fact that the Dow seems to fall on bad news, news that was worse than expected, and whenever Geithner opens his mouth.

869 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:59:03am

re: #860 avanti

7000 plus by end of month is my bet.

Based on what? My bet is we'll be lucky if it's as high as 6000. Several European banks are going to go belly up this month. That won't help the US economy.

870 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:59:12am

re: #854 Spare O'Lake

Up and down I can handle. What makes me ill is the down and down and down and down...

Dunno - if it were just down-down-down, thigns would stabilise and there'd be an end to it.
Its the -100points one day, +100points the next, down again, up again: like they say here, its not the deafeat, its the hope we can't handle ...

871 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:59:14am

re: #847 sattv4u2

I think I know your brother, Charlie. He has a mean girlfriend, keeps moving the footabll every time Charlie want to kick it!

Lucy was never Charlie Brown's girlfriend - he was always in love with the Little Red-Headed Girl.

872 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:59:15am

re: #857 Iron Fist

I'm on it for neuropathy in my feet. It helps, but it isn't a miricle cure. It won't regrow damaged nerve tissue or anything like that. It just beats back the pain to tolerable levels. I don't really notice that until I run out and skip a few days. The difference is, how to say, quite noticible.

Does it really help?
The Roi has neuropathy, has taken pain meds, anti-convulsants, lots of things they thought might help but didn't (except some of the pain meds, even though they don't help the actual pain, at least change his attitude about the pain LOL).

873 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:59:34am

re: #866 karmic_inquisitor

That is a great article. Read it last night.

When you look at all of the different names - Buckley, Cramer, Dowd, Gergen, and more - you see that it is not a small group of a particular ideology. The cracks are in many places.

indeed...a very good sign imo and they are all recognizable names....like David Brooks....it's a good thing

874 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 7:59:49am

re: #865 Occasional Reader

Wasn't he the one who helps Dolomite rescue Afrocity Brown from "The Man"?

Atomic was downright nuclear, but you can't take that for granite.

875 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:00:06am
876 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:00:41am

re: #869 Kenneth

Based on what? My bet is we'll be lucky if it's as high as 6000. Several European banks are going to go belly up this month. That won't help the US economy.

BO told him so...BO is his broker

877 rawmuse  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:00:44am

Crap, now Cognito has got me wanting a Tenori-on.

878 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:01:06am

re: #860 avanti

7000 plus by end of month is my bet.

And what will be the catalyst? For stocks to reverse momentum on a slide like this you need a catalyst. What will that be?

* A new logo for Obama's next FDR-wannabe program?
* A different ally that we can screw over?
* Increased Unicorn allocations?

Or will Obama climb down from some of his insane policies that are destroying this nation's capacity to create wealth?

879 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:01:36am

Can anyone tell me anything about Larry Kudlow? I don, and won't watch CNBC, soI am not too familiar with him. Rumor has it he is considering running against Chris Dodd in 2010, and I would love to know if he is someone I could get behind.

880 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:01:42am

re: #864 realwest

but when a major Union (UAW, iirc) has it's annual meeting at a VERY EXPENSIVE HOTEL IN MIAMI

AFl-CIO, at the Fontainebleau resort. Which is where they had the most recent Victoria's Secret show. Not that I watch such things, you understand.

881 J.S.  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:02:11am

re: #863 Kenneth

I found out about the Alevi back in 2002 (?) from a CBC radio news program (killings were going on at the time -- Sunnis attacking Alevi) -- I'd always thought of Turkey as a kind of secular paradise -- apparently, that's only true in the urban areas -- out in the rural places, there are many, many "problems" (as in tensions between ethnic/religious minority groups -- whether Kurds, Alevi, etc.)...

882 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:02:23am

U.K. Retirement Rules May Be Justified, EU Court Says

March 5 (Bloomberg) -- U.K. laws allowing companies to dismiss workers 65 and older or force them to retire may be justified if they have a reasonable social-policy goal, the European Union’s highest court ruled.

The ruling by the European Court of Justice in Luxembourg today “is a bitter blow for older people,” said Liz Lynne, a U.K. Liberal Democrat member of the European Parliament who helped draft the EU’s employment law. Britain must “put an end to the unfair and discriminatory practice of mandatory-retirement ages.”

883 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:02:46am

re: #879 Ford_Prefect

Can anyone tell me anything about Larry Kudlow? I don, and won't watch CNBC, soI am not too familiar with him. Rumor has it he is considering running against Chris Dodd in 2010, and I would love to know if he is someone I could get behind.

I've been reading him at Townhall for years...an economist and very bright guy

884 quickjustice  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:02:51am

re: #791 Afrocity

Obama will complete the nationalization of health care, which means everyone gets coverage, and everyone gets government imposed rationing. That means long waits (weeks or months) to see a doctor. That means young people get care first, and elderly people, last. The government will decide when, and whether, you get care at all.

The private health insurance system as we know it will disappear at that time. Your government health card will be all you need. Then you'll get into line to see a doctor, and wait and wait and wait . . .

McCain had a better proposal: caps on the deductibility of "gold-plated" health insurance plan that pay for face-lifts and tummy tucks, medical savings accounts for those who can afford them, and health care vouchers doctors can redeem for cash for those who can't otherwise afford health care.

885 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:02:51am

re: #832 Ford_Prefect

A support group for bitter pundits disappointed in Obama is quickly becoming necessary.

Eyes are opening all over the place.

Somebody call out a fleet of waaaaaambulances, stat!

886 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:03:06am

re: #856 ploome hineni

Britain has demonstrated how they submit to contempt

(very painful for me to say this)

watching Britain disintigrate in the face of its asian and asylum immigrants, sets the tone for how Britain will be treated in the future..and this is how NObama and his advisors see it

Britain has become irrelevant

Its nearly twelve years of neo-stalinist NuLab government. PB0 probably likes it this way - but he better wake up. The next election is coming ever closer, and then he'll have to deal with the Tories.
They may look fresh-faced, but they do have vastly more experience than himself and any of his staff, not just in their various areas of expertise but also in down-and-dirty politics.
He better watch out - Maggie's children are coming!
And that goes for those islamists as well.

887 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:03:13am

Well I see the Stock Market is getting Obamaed again.

888 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:03:21am

re: #871 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Lucy was never Charlie Brown's girlfriend - he was always in love with the Little Red-Headed Girl.

Hmm. Can't blame him. There is something about red-heads.

889 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:03:30am

re: #867 Occasional Reader

Try to look at them the same way I look at "Irish Spring" commercials...

Okay I have a confession. I went to Ireland about three years ago and I was all wide eyed and full of the pursuit of Irish stereotypes. I went to kiss the Blarney Stone, and went looking for Irish Coffee at a pub. I went looking for Sheppards Pie and could only find Chinese and Italian restaurants in the town I was staying in - in County Cork. I took a train to Dublin and that is where the touristy stuff was. I was embarrassed when a man was kind enough to point me to a restaurant called the Boxty in Dublin where I could get my bangers and mash.

890 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:03:32am

re: #842 Afrocity

Killian whatever if I did anything to offend you my apologies.
Yep I registered with Afrocity Brown.

I saw that this morning. Great picture there, too.

891 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:04:06am

re: #888 Ford_Prefect

Hmm. Can't blame him. There is something about red-heads.

I always had a thing for red heads. Sy....

892 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:04:16am

re: #845 lawhawk

Stop spreading your Obamanist optimism here. /

Don't you know it's a buy opportunity. Mayor Mike Bloomberg says so, so it must be true. /

Hey law...I'm trying to figure out what to buy the Dem's can't/won't destroy, confiscate or steal - any idears?

893 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:04:29am

re: #871 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Charlie Brown had good taste. I have a slight obsession with redheaded girls.

894 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:04:38am

re: #883 albusteve

I've been reading him at Townhall for years...an economist and very bright guy

Thanks, I will check that out.

895 nyc redneck  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:04:49am

re: #829 yma o hyd

They may have arrived - but they show thie total lack of class and grace.

Here's a brief story about WAB and Mrs Gordon Brown, who met during that visit.
Mrs Brown choose some lovely gifts for WAB's daughters - but she just got some plastic helicopter models from the White House gift shop for the Brown boys.

Read it all here:
First Lady Michelle Obama shows even she has a gift for the gaffe

it obviously never occurred to michelle to even think of mrs. brown's
son's until mrs. brown arrived w/ gifts for michelle's own children.
that shows the character of michelle.
thoughtless, self-centered. no class. not fit to be first lady.
she needs a course in basic manners and decorum.

896 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:04:55am

re: #882 NJDhockeyfan

U.K. Retirement Rules May Be Justified, EU Court Says

Forced retirements are yet another trick in the socialist bag for keeping unemployment down.

You kick out the old fart and that creates a job for a young one.

The young one is no longer unemployed. The old one gets counted as "retired". So the unemployment rate goes down.

897 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:05:04am
Youtube Video
Youtube Video

Toss up question.

/what happens when you toss a donut on a sidewalk on State street?

898 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:05:11am

re: #891 Nevergiveup

I always had a thing for red heads. Sy....

re: #892 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Hey law...I'm trying to figure out what to buy the Dem's can't/won't destroy, confiscate or steal - any idears?

re: #893 Mad Al-Jaffee

Charlie Brown had good taste. I have a slight obsession with redheaded girls.

You guys should start a support group.

899 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:05:29am

General Motors Corp.'s auditors have raised "substantial doubt" about the troubled automaker's ability to continue operations, and the company said it may have to seek bankruptcy protection if it can't execute a huge restructuring plan.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

So basically, all that money we lent them is down the rat hole?

900 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:05:38am

re: #879 Ford_Prefect

Kudlow worked in the Reagan administration, in the Office of Management and Budget.

901 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:05:48am

re: #898 Creeping Eruption


aboo-hoo-hoo - not sure how you got pulled into that

902 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:06:09am

re: #884 quickjustice

I dont want nationalized health care. I am just saying that i feel it is unfair for someone to add a same sex partner to health insurance, yet a straight person cannot add someone that they feel close enough to their insurance.

903 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:06:37am

re: #856 ploome hineni
I think that's definitely the way Great Britain is headed, but we should NEVER forget that Great Britain has had troops FIGHTING (unlike the Germans, for example) on our side in Afghanistan and in Iraq. Given how little the British people fancy their dole tax dollars going to self-defense, that's an important fact to remember about Great Britain.

904 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:07:04am

re: #889 Afrocity

I was embarrassed when a man was kind enough to point me to a restaurant called the Boxty in Dublin where I could get my bangers and mash.

You were voluntarily TRYING to find Irish food?!

Afrocity, why do you think my people FLED Ireland in the first place!

905 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:07:22am

re: #902 Afrocity

I dont want nationalized health care. I am just saying that i feel it is unfair for someone to add a same sex partner to health insurance, yet a straight person cannot add someone that they feel close enough to their insurance.

Such as my oldest daughter when she gradiates from college?

906 quickjustice  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:07:33am

re: #899 Nevergiveup

The money "we lent them" kept them alive for another three months. They should have filed Chapter 11 a year ago, restructured, and come out lean, mean, and competitive. They could have rejected their unprofitable contracts, including their labor contracts.

907 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:07:38am

re: #895 nyc redneck

it obviously never occurred to michelle to even think of mrs. brown's
son's until mrs. brown arrived w/ gifts for michelle's own children.
that shows the character of michelle.
thoughtless, self-centered. no class. not fit to be first lady.
she needs a course in basic manners and decorum.

Yep - but who'd be the brave sould to try and teach her basic manners and decorum?

908 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:08:27am

re: #904 Occasional Reader

Have you ever had the cod platter at Irish Times in DC? It's awesome, especially with a pint or two of Guinness.

909 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:08:52am

re: #901 Creeping Eruption

aboo-hoo-hoo - not sure how you got pulled into that

LOL that's ok, I like redheads too!

910 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:09:00am

re: #887 Nevergiveup

Well I see the Stock Market is getting Obamaed again.

Looks like some cynical capitalists failed to take Obama's sage and brilliant advice on "Profits and Earnings ratios".

Strange thing - I ran the "profits and earnings" ratios for several companies I am in. Each one that has profits has this ratio pegged at exactly "1:1". For every dollar they have in profits, they have exactly the same dollar in earnings.

Weird.

911 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:09:44am
912 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:09:49am

re: #900 Kenneth

Kudlow worked in the Reagan administration, in the Office of Management and Budget.

According to your link he has his own blog site. I will have to watch that as well. Thanks.

913 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:09:59am

re: #869 Kenneth
Kenneth - he believes in a 7,000 + Dow because, just like Obama, he thinks Obama actually can control the markets.
It's typical socialist thinking and it's wrong.

914 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:10:03am

re: #904 Occasional Reader

You were voluntarily TRYING to find Irish food?!

Afrocity, why do you think my people FLED Ireland in the first place!

The great Irish cookbook is one page long - Boil the hell out of it.

915 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:10:15am

re: #899 Nevergiveup

Considering that GM never got the money in the first place, and is still waiting for it, IIRC, it's far less of a rat hole than the billions upon billions that have gone to AIG.

Chapter 11 might do them good to throw off the shackles of the UAW.

916 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:10:18am

re: #909 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

LOL that's ok, I like redheads too!

Yes, the Devils spawn are truly hard to resist, sigh . . .

917 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:10:20am

re: #875 Iron Fist

That would really depend on how unusual Afrocity's name is. I get mistaken identities on my part fairly regularly, especially from bill collectors. I try and ignore it as much as I can.

I have Googled myself and there are maybe 7 women with spelling variations of my name- none in Illinois so that is strange. When my mom died I found this SSN database online and was surprise to see all of her information there on the internet. But I also saw that there were 5 women with her name which I thought was an uncommon name too. Go figure. Your parents think they are giving you something unique and it turns out it is not afterall.

918 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:10:34am

re: #879 Ford_Prefect

Can anyone tell me anything about Larry Kudlow? I don, and won't watch CNBC, soI am not too familiar with him. Rumor has it he is considering running against Chris Dodd in 2010, and I would love to know if he is someone I could get behind.

He's pretty conservative (Hugh Hewitt has him on every Friday), and I gather he's a pretty devout Catholic as well, as he's talked with Hugh about attending Tre Ora on Good Friday, at the Cathedral in Manhattan. Tre Ora is a three-hour meditation on Good Friday, covering Jesus's last seven words ("Father, unto You I commend my spirit") on the Cross.

919 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:10:41am

re: #896 karmic_inquisitor

Forced retirements are yet another trick in the socialist bag for keeping unemployment down.

You kick out the old fart and that creates a job for a young one.

The young one is no longer unemployed. The old one gets counted as "retired". So the unemployment rate goes down.

The odd thing is, here in the UK, that many big chain stores emply the old farts and old fartettes because the young ones hang on the welfare tit and can't be botehred to work.
The old'uns know what they're doing and are valued employees - valued by customers as well.
Mind - they're not in full-time employment, so this law doesn't seem to apply.

920 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:10:47am

re: #881 J.S.

The Italian "peace bride" was raped & murdered in rural Turkey. She had hoped to ride her bicycle to Israel to promote "Peace". She was raped & murdered in the first Muslim country she entered, Turkey, the one considered the most modern & progressive. Naivety is a dangerous thing.

There's a lesson there for anybody still foolish enough to believe in the so-called road map to peace: Ride that road and you will wind up dead.

921 quickjustice  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:11:07am

re: #902 Afrocity

Whether you "want" it or not doesn't matter. You're going to get it, along with the rest of us. And at that point in time, your concerns about the limits of the current insurance system will be replaced with concerns about whether and when you and your family can find a doctor at all.

922 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:11:48am

re: #915 Honorary Yooper

Considering that GM never got the money in the first place, and is still waiting for it, IIRC, it's far less of a rat hole than the billions upon billions that have gone to AIG.

Chapter 11 might do them good to throw off the shackles of the UAW.

They haven't gotten it yet? That's good but how was it sent, pony express?

923 bellamags  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:12:22am

I have to sign off. Shop so busy I can't keep up with LGF.

924 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:12:34am

re: #913 realwest

Obama's influence over the markets is in one direction only. Down.

925 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:13:05am

re: #905 Nevergiveup

Such as my oldest daughter when she gradiates from college?

Or my father. Or my mother who died 2 years ago. or my aunt who wants to add my other aunt. I feel bad about this and I have nothing against gay rights but the insurance benefits rights ---on its face---does not seem fair to me. So if my best friend was dying of cancer. i could say I was a lesbian and add her to my health insurance but I can't add my mom or dad. Does not seem fair.

926 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:13:06am

Trying to think of a famous unattractive red-head to link to - can't come up with one.

927 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:13:11am

re: #920 Kenneth

The Italian "peace bride" was raped & murdered in rural Turkey. She had hoped to ride her bicycle to Israel to promote "Peace". She was raped & murdered in the first Muslim country she entered, Turkey, the one considered the most modern & progressive. Naivety is a dangerous thing.

There's a lesson there for anybody still foolish enough to believe in the so-called road map to peace: Ride that road and you will wind up dead.

Unfortunately, that pretty much sums it up. Sad state of affairs.

928 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:13:47am

re: #922 Nevergiveup

They haven't gotten it yet? That's good but how was it sent, pony express?

Remember that before either GM or Chrylser could get any money from the government that they had to justify it. The justification was only a couple of weeks ago or so. If they got any money, it would have been after that. Meanwhile AIG gets money shoveled their way. Can we just let AIG go bankrupt already?

929 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:13:48am

re: #919 yma o hyd

The odd thing is, here in the UK, that many big chain stores emply the old farts and old fartettes because the young ones hang on the welfare tit and can't be botehred to work.
The old'uns know what they're doing and are valued employees - valued by customers as well.
Mind - they're not in full-time employment, so this law doesn't seem to apply.

Strange, isn't it? When you create a welfare system that is generous people choose to not work.

That is a real chin scratcher. Hmmmmmmmmm.

930 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:13:55am

Prince Charles, world's best dressed man?

I think not. You should see me right now.

931 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:14:14am

re: #926 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

How about photoshopping a picture of Helen Thomas with her hair colored red?

932 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:14:28am

re: #903 realwest

I think that's definitely the way Great Britain is headed, but we should NEVER forget that Great Britain has had troops FIGHTING (unlike the Germans, for example) on our side in Afghanistan and in Iraq. Given how little the British people fancy their dole tax dollars going to self-defense, that's an important fact to remember about Great Britain.

Ahem.
We'd have nothing against our taxes going to our Armed Forces - we'd welcome it!
We'd prefer it, in fact, if our taxes actually did go there rather than on all those welfare cheats and immigrants from muslim countries.
Unfortunately, our neo-stalinist, NuLab government has been cutting the defense budget back to the amrest minimum, regardless of our lads fighting in two wars at once.
Thats LLL policies for you - be on your guard, PB0 will pull the same stuff on your Armed Forces.

933 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:14:39am

re: #911 Iron Fist

Sadly, a lot of insurance companies (and doctors, too) don't think that fibromyalgia is a real ailment. But it sure is.

934 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:14:44am

re: #929 karmic_inquisitor

Strange, isn't it? When you create a welfare system that is generous people choose to not work.

That is a real chin scratcher. Hmmmmmmmmm.

Then we should tax rich people even more... that'll make them work!

935 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:14:44am

re: #926 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Trying to think of a famous unattractive red-head to link to - can't come up with one.

Picture Hilliary with red hair

936 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:15:02am

re: #904 Occasional Reader

You were voluntarily TRYING to find Irish food?!

Afrocity, why do you think my people FLED Ireland in the first place!

Hey i admitted my folly. I am a meat and potatoes girl. I love Irish food. I just wanted to see if it tasted better in the UK. I did chicken out with the blood sausage. It reminded me of liver.

937 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:15:17am

re: #908 Mad Al-Jaffee

Have you ever had the cod platter at Irish Times in DC? It's awesome, especially with a pint or two of Guinness.

I haven't set foot in Irish Times in years. It was a fun place, even if it always smelled faintly of puke.

Not much of a fan of cod.

938 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:15:17am

re: #928 Honorary Yooper

Remember that before either GM or Chrylser could get any money from the government that they had to justify it. The justification was only a couple of weeks ago or so. If they got any money, it would have been after that. Meanwhile AIG gets money shoveled their way. Can we just let AIG go bankrupt already?

You got my vote on AIG.

939 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:15:18am

re: #931 Mad Al-Jaffee

How about photoshopping a picture of Helen Thomas with her hair colored red?

Last person who attempted to photoshop Helen Thomas broke his photoshop.

It is hard to break software.

940 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:15:24am
941 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:15:33am

re: #936 Afrocity

When I lived in England, I pretty much survived off Indian food.

942 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:15:34am

re: #926 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Trying to think of a famous unattractive red-head to link to - can't come up with one.

Carrot Top?

943 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:15:45am

re: #918 Ward Cleaver

Not sure how the Catholic part will play in CT. The pro-abortion crowd will come out in force, as will the gay/lesbian crowd. I think it is very important to get someone on the Republican ticket that can beat Dodd. There are too many people here that will just look for any excuse to not vote for whoever opposes him.

944 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:16:01am

re: #923 bellamags

I have to sign off. Shop so busy I can't keep up with LGF.

Glad to hear it!

945 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:16:07am

re: #941 Mad Al-Jaffee

When I lived in England, I pretty much survived off Indian food.

Which I cannot have due to my nut allergies.

946 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:16:10am

re: #914 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The great Irish cookbook is one page long - Boil the hell out of it.

Irish Soda Bread is fantastic, especially when eaten warm!

(Its in the cook book, so you can all try it for yourselves!)

947 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:16:12am

re: #934 Kenneth

Then we should tax rich people even more... that'll make them work!

Freaking Brilliant!

And while we are at it, let's make sure our corporate taxes are the highest in the world! That will show them!

948 Guy Caballero  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:16:23am

Repo Man's got all night, every night.

949 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:16:57am

re: #945 Afrocity

Which I cannot have due to my nut allergies.

You have nut allergies?

That explains why you aren't a Democrat.

/could not resist.

950 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:16:57am

re: #937 Occasional Reader

Not much of a fan of cod.

Let's not start another atheism thread, ok? I've haddock up to here with those.

951 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:17:04am

re: #937 Occasional Reader

I work across the street from there. Their cod is beer-battered and deep fried, with chips. I only eat it a couple of times a year. Now I'm getting hungry.

952 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:17:14am

re: #943 Ford_Prefect

Not sure how the Catholic part will play in CT. The pro-abortion crowd will come out in force, as will the gay/lesbian crowd. I think it is very important to get someone on the Republican ticket that can beat Dodd. There are too many people here that will just look for any excuse to not vote for whoever opposes him.

Whoever runs against Dodd needs to publicize what a crook he is, and how he helped kick off this whole economic meltdown in the first place.

953 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:17:16am

re: #880 Occasional Reader
O.R. - with a "bride" who is one of the most beautiful South American women on the planet, I'm surprised you even remember Victoria's Secret! LOL!
But thanks for the correction/update. As George Carlin (RIP) has said "The primary job of a Union executive is to insure that he never becomes part of the working class."
IIRC, the Fontainebleau Resort is one of, if not THE most expensive Resort in those parts. But of course Obama can't afford to be critical of them for that lavish spending, cause it's gonna hamper his attempts to help the poor Unions in this country!

954 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:17:24am

re: #937 Occasional Reader

I haven't set foot in Irish Times in years. It was a fun place, even if it always smelled faintly of puke.

Not much of a fan of cod.

Have you no sole?

955 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:18:02am

re: #950 Kenneth

Let's not start another atheism thread, ok? I've haddock up to here with those.

Halibut you two get a room.

956 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:18:03am

re: #946 yma o hyd

Irish Soda Bread is fantastic, especially when eaten warm!

(Its in the cook book, so you can all try it for yourselves!)

I like Irish Soda Bread. Does it always have raisins in it? That's the kind I've eaten.

957 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:18:19am

BTW, for some reason (still don't know why) was looking at information on the movie "Cloverfield".

On Wikipedia? I swear...they listed it as directed by Michael J. Fox. Pointed it out last night, and damn if somebody didn't go and fix it.

Poop! Was tres funny!

958 VegasRick  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:18:36am

re: #926 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Trying to think of a famous unattractive red-head to link to - can't come up with one.

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

959 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:18:56am

re: #945 Afrocity

Which I cannot have due to my nut allergies.

You're gonna love my nuts!
-Slap Chopper Guy

960 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:19:02am

re: #942 Afrocity

Carrot Top?

Thank you!

961 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:19:06am

re: #952 Ward Cleaver

Whoever runs against Dodd needs to publicize what a crook he is, and how he helped kick off this whole economic meltdown in the first place.

Kudlow might just be the one to be able to do that.

962 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:19:27am

re: #948 Guy Caballero

Guy Caballero from SCTV?

963 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:19:47am

re: #952 Ward Cleaver

Whoever runs against Dodd needs to publicize what a crook he is, and how he helped kick off this whole economic meltdown in the first place.

Agreed. The thing is that person still has to be electable on their own account. Like I said, too many people here will look for any excuse to not vote for a Republican.

964 DaddyG  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:20:28am

re: #636 freetoken Dinged you up for a good point, however the Obamas need to get clued in real quick to protocal with foreign heads of state if they want to avoid this kind of thing. I don't blame them other than for not hiring or retaining someone on staff that has more experience with these issues. Perhaps they need to open themselves up to taking advice from previous administrations no matter how "hated"?

965 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:20:38am

re: #960 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Thank you!

He's some serious guns - I wouldn't want to go mano a' mano with him.

966 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:20:46am

re: #926 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Trying to think of a famous unattractive red-head to link to - can't come up with one.

I can.

967 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:20:47am

re: #950 Kenneth

Let's not start another atheism thread, ok? I've haddock up to here with those.

You mean, some people deny the existence of cod?

968 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:20:56am

re: #962 Ward Cleaver

Count Floyd was my favorite SCTV character.

969 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:20:58am

re: #884 quickjustice
Yeah, but it's my understanding that Obama is facing a severe test of leadership from within his own party, not just Republicans on a host of health care issues.
Some of us just kinda don't like the idea of letting the elderly just die rather than provide timely, life saving medical attention.

970 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:21:30am

re: #959 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You're gonna love my nuts!
-Slap Chopper Guy

You dirty Vegan you! /

971 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:21:35am

Tee Time

972 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:21:46am

re: #956 Ward Cleaver

I like Irish Soda Bread. Does it always have raisins in it? That's the kind I've eaten.

No, not the original one.
Its a staple food, a 'poorpeople's' food, if you wish.
Buttermilk and flour and baking soda is all thats needed - these were available to even the poorest crofter with just the one cow.

973 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:21:50am

Chavez Orders Expropriation of American-Owned Rice Plant

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

We really have to figure out a way to "hurt" this guy. Now I wouldn't want anyone to misconstrue my statement as meaning to bring physical harm to the little prick, but accidents do happen?

974 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:21:53am

re: #970 Afrocity

You dirty Vegan you! /

Nope! That's Chubby.

975 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:22:01am

re: #941 Mad Al-Jaffee

When I lived in England, I pretty much survived off Indian food.

Best Japanese food I've ever had was in London. Of course, it was INSANELY expensive.

You can eat very well in London now, as long as you're willing to sell a few of your organs to pay for it.

976 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:22:07am

2 cops hurt, terrorist dead after Jerusalem attack

This is the third attack using heavy equipment.

977 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:22:21am

re: #972 yma o hyd

No, not the original one.
Its a staple food, a 'poorpeople's' food, if you wish.
Buttermilk and flour and baking soda is all thats needed - these were available to even the poorest crofter with just the one cow.

Ahem - thats a four-legged cow, ok?

978 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:22:35am

re: #968 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Count Floyd was my favorite SCTV character.

I liked Johnny La Rue.

How about Fish Police? "Halt, or I'll cast!"

979 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:23:06am

re: #968 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Johnnie LaRue!

980 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:23:08am

re: #973 Nevergiveup

Chavez Orders Expropriation of American-Owned Rice Plant

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

We really have to figure out a way to "hurt" this guy. Now I wouldn't want anyone to misconstrue my statement as meaning to bring physical harm to the little prick, but accidents do happen?

Venezuela is heading down the path of Zimbabwe. And the US is heading down the path as well. Too bad the idiots in chief can't see where they're going.

981 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:23:16am

re: #895 nyc redneck

it obviously never occurred to michelle to even think of mrs. brown's
son's until mrs. brown arrived w/ gifts for michelle's own children.
that shows the character of michelle.
thoughtless, self-centered. no class. not fit to be first lady.
she needs a course in basic manners and decorum.

I think you're absolutely right. I was wondering how Michelle was so clueless as to her choice of gift for the Brown's boys, but I think you've figured it out.
I thought there was a "protocol" office to advise and help out with this sort of stuff?

982 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:23:19am

re: #895 nyc redneck
Hey nyc redneck "she needs a course in basic manners and decorum" as do a surprising large number of Obama's supporters.

983 UFO TOFU  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:23:28am

re: #972 yma o hyd

What's a "crofter"?

984 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:23:29am

re: #978 Ward Cleaver

I love "Happy Hour." It's a children's show that takes place in a bar.

985 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:23:31am

re: #941 Mad Al-Jaffee

When I lived in England, I pretty much survived off Indian food.

I'm in Scotland. Indian food is my no1 choice for eating out. Although to be honest, London is the place to get the best.

986 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:23:52am

re: #966 Occasional Reader

Picture just won't load. Who was it?

987 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:23:55am

re: #950 Kenneth

Let's not start another atheism thread, ok? I've haddock up to here with those.

You're not one of those agnostics, who just flounders in self-doubt, are you?

988 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:24:08am

re: #978 Ward Cleaver

I liked Johnny La Rue.

How about Fish Police? "Halt, or I'll cast!"

How about Lt. Frank Dolphin in Police Squid?

989 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:24:39am

re: #899 Nevergiveup
Yup, and they want another $30 Billion - which, of course we'll give them!
What could go wrong?!

990 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:24:43am

re: #964 DaddyG

Dinged you up for a good point, however the Obamas need to get clued in real quick to protocal with foreign heads of state if they want to avoid this kind of thing. I don't blame them other than for not hiring or retaining someone on staff that has more experience with these issues. Perhaps they need to open themselves up to taking advice from previous administrations no matter how "hated"?

I'm just wondering how WAB and PB0 will do when they gets to meet the Queen ... and Prince Phillip ....

:-)))

991 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:24:54am

re: #986 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Picture just won't load. Who was it?

OR with a red wig...pretty bad

992 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:25:16am

re: #979 Kenneth

Johnnie LaRue!

During the mob hit - "Can I get some breadsticks?"

(waiter throws the breadsticks)

993 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:25:21am

A British woman deliberately bit off her boyfriend's tongue during a kiss after complaining she wanted a baby and wasn't getting pregnant, the BBC reported.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Speaking of British food?

994 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:25:28am

re: #986 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Picture just won't load. Who was it?

Baron Harkonnen.

995 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:25:53am

re: #993 Nevergiveup

I never want to taste anything that might taste me back.

996 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:25:59am

re: #987 Occasional Reader

You're not one of those agnostics, who just flounders in self-doubt, are you?

Not sure what you mean... I better mullet over a while.

997 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:26:10am

re: #987 Occasional Reader

You're not one of those agnostics, who just flounders in self-doubt, are you?

With a challenge like that, he's just going to clam up.

998 Afrocity  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:26:16am

re: #975 Occasional Reader

Best Japanese food I've ever had was in London. Of course, it was INSANELY expensive.

You can eat very well in London now, as long as you're willing to sell a few of your organs to pay for it.

Okay I LOVE Japanese food. There is this soup called Oden. I love it. My tastes tend towards bland and starchy, which is strange because many Af-Am people love spicy food. My mom carried tabassco in her purse. I love potatoes, and rice. Sushi, eel..hmmmm

999 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:26:22am

Wow. This thread is A.D.D. Theater.

1000 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:26:45am

re: #985 Jimmah

I'm in Scotland. Indian food is my no1 choice for eating out. Although to be honest, London is the place to get the best.

If you're ever in DC, try out a restaurant in the "Cleveland Park" neighborhood called "Indique". I submit that it could hold its head high even in the London market for Indian restaurants.

1001 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:26:47am
1002 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:27:01am

re: #976 Creeping Eruption

2 cops hurt, terrorist dead after Jerusalem attack

This is the third attack using heavy equipment.

And once again the journalist can't identify the piece of equipment.

That is a backhoe.

A bullbozer is tracked, is much larger, only has a blade on the front (not a bucket, or "scoop" if you like), and has no digging arm on the back.

FYI to any journos out there.

1003 Nevergiveup  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:27:30am

Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez will have surgery to remove a cyst from his right hip and will be out 10 weeks, Rodriguez's brother told ESPNdeportes.com on Thursday.

Joe Rodriguez, Alex Rodriguez's older brother, told Enrique Rojas of ESPNdeportes.com during a phone interview that immediate surgery was recommended, and that rehabilitation would take about 10 weeks.

A source close to the situation told ESPNdeportes.com that the surgery is scheduled for Monday in Colorado.

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

And the hits just keep on coming....urh--in this case maybe not. I guess no hits for awhile? Anybody got a spare 3rd baseman out there?

1004 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:27:33am

re: #966 Occasional Reader

To counter that, a very good looking redhead (safe for work):

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

1005 Ben Hur  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:27:34am

Some important information you should be aware of.

Jerusalem Municipality Responds to Disinformation Regarding EastJerusalem

The Jerusalem Municipality rejects many recent claims made in the media and would like to provide further information on the topic. A disinformation campaign took place recently, surrounding the visit of US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

The Municipality of Jerusalem continues to exercise its rights and its
obligations to the residents of East Jerusalem in complete transparency. Mayor Nir Barkat continues to promote investments in infrastructure, construction, and education in East Jerusalem, while at the same time upholding the law throughout West and East Jerusalem equally without bias.

According to administrative procedure, orders can be given to stop work on illegal construction at the beginning and throughout the process of construction. Often, illegal construction has come at the expense of public land designated for the residents themselves. Since January 1, 28 demolition orders have been carried out - 11 at structures in West Jerusalem and 17 at structures in East Jerusalem.

SNIP

1006 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:27:40am

re: #993 Nevergiveup

A British woman deliberately bit off her boyfriend's tongue during a kiss after complaining she wanted a baby and wasn't getting pregnant, the BBC reported.

GAH.

Life imitates Francis Dolarhyde.

1007 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:28:23am

re: #999 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wow. This thread is A.D.D. Theater.

What a ridiculous remark. Just because we occasionally shift topics doesn't mean that
LOOK A SQUIRREL!

1008 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:28:31am

re: #996 Kenneth

Not sure what you mean... I better mullet over a while.

Well, if the mullet doesn't cause you to doubt the existence of God...

Or perhaps this disproves Darwin's theory of natural selection?

1009 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:28:37am

re: #911 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - y'all ought to ask your doctor about a drug called Gabapentin - when I had shingles and couldn't bear taking prednisone and Lyrica "didn't agree" with me, I got Gabapentin prescribed for me and in sufficiently high (but medically approved dosages) it did wonders for my pain. It too was developed for neuropathic pain.

1010 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:28:59am

re: #976 Creeping Eruption

2 cops hurt, terrorist dead after Jerusalem attack

This is the third attack using heavy equipment.

The TIMES/London saw fit to call it 'terrorist attack' in their headline
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

but the BBC takes, the proverbial biscuit:
'New digger attack' in Jerusalem

Wonder what they want to imply with that headline - it wasn't a digger? It wasn't an attack? Wtf?

1011 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:29:10am

re: #1007 Occasional Reader

What a ridiculous remark. Just because we occasionally shift topics doesn't mean that
LOOK A SQUIRREL!

Is there a moose with the squirrel?
(Picked up seasons 1-3 of Rocky and Bulllwinkle on DVD last night)

1012 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:29:15am

HERE is a redhead....


Image: lucille-ball-006.jpg

1013 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:29:18am

re: #1000 Occasional Reader

If you're ever in DC, try out a restaurant in the "Cleveland Park" neighborhood called "Indique". I submit that it could hold its head high even in the London market for Indian restaurants.

So in India, do they all clamor for fish & chips?

1014 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:29:28am
1015 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:29:53am

re: #1007 Occasional Reader

What a ridiculous remark. Just because we occasionally shift topics doesn't mean that
LOOK A SQUIRREL!

gets me every time...

1016 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:29:55am

re: #1007 Occasional Reader

LOOK A SQUIRREL!

He's gonna love my nuts.
-Slap Chopper Guy

1017 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:29:55am
1018 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:30:27am

re: #1004 Mad Al-Jaffee

To counter that, a very good looking redhead (safe for work):

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

A movie redhead who gets my full and undivided attention; that chick who tries to seduce Keanu Reeves near the end of The Devil's Advocate.

Yowza.

1019 Ben Hur  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:30:35am
Further details:

1. Emek HaMelech

No new orders have been issued in the Emek HaMelech area and there is no change in the Municipal position on this issue. The area of Emek HaMelech is one of the most important areas with regards to the history of Jerusalem, with holy sites important to Jews, Christians, and Muslims alike. Because its significant importance to the more than 3 billion people of faith around the world, it is also a tourist destination. It is important to the future of Jerusalem that this area be treated with the utmost strategic importance. Emek HaMelech is not intended for residential development but rather it is intended to be an open public space. This position is concurrent with positions taken during the British Mandate and going back to Ottoman control of the area. Most of the 80 illegal buildings were built within recent years without proper permits and are in different stages of legal proceedings. Residents of the buildings in question have turned to the District Committee
of the Ministry of the Interior, which rejected their petitions and did not approve the illegal construction of the buildings due to the fact that the Emek HaMelech area is intended for public recreational use.

2. Jabel Mukaber

The most recent illegal building that was demolished was not in Silwan but rather in Jabel Mukaber. The illegal building was demolished following the Supreme Court's rejection of the appeal filed against the demolition orders because it was built illegally without a permit in open space. The enforcement of this policy is completely equal between East and West Jerusalem. The Municipality operates in accordance with the law and with the rulings of the courts.

3. Shuafat

According to the Mayor of Jerusalem, administrative orders have been issued to unlicensed buildings continuing the process of construction throughout all of Jerusalem, West and East, without bias. Following procedure, administrative orders were pasted on five buildings Tuesday that are still under construction and are without residents. They had already been given instructions to stop construction, which were not honored. The orders pasted on the buildings also explain how the order can be appealed in the court of law if any injustice is felt. Due to the illegal construction in areas intended for public use in the neighborhood of Shuafat, a difficult situation has arisen in which almost no public areas remain for public construction for the residents of the neighborhood. The area of the illegal construction includes land reserved for public schools and institutions for the benefit of the residents of Shuafat and according to the Municiaplity's obligation to the residents, the Municipality must stop the construction.

1020 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:30:47am

re: #1012 albusteve

She was a very hot young thing....

1021 phoenixgirl  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:30:49am

re: #791 Afrocity

Thank God Dawn. Someone responded to my post. I thought I was an idiot.
Exactly, why is it that gays can add a domestic partner (non blood relative, not legally married) yet you cannot add your grandson. See maybe this is how the GOP should go. Don't fight against their rights as gays, fight for our rights to choose whoever we wish to insure whether that be your mom or dad, older dependent child, grandchild, elderly aunt, etc,. Isn't a gay partner a friend that you are in a relationship with? So why are straight couples who live together not entitled to the same rights?

as straight unmarried couples or as platonic friends people can set up these same rights by giving each other power of attorney.

1022 Killian Bundy  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:31:04am

CITI trading at $.99. look for a lot of financials to get kicked out of the S&P 500.

/two words, not good

1023 yma o hyd  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:31:12am

re: #981 reine.de.tout

I think you're absolutely right. I was wondering how Michelle was so clueless as to her choice of gift for the Brown's boys, but I think you've figured it out.
I thought there was a "protocol" office to advise and help out with this sort of stuff?

That 'protocol office' probably has shredded all the info from the previous incumbent.
After all, this is the new, black presidency ...!

/Can I say this without being racist?

1024 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:31:39am

re: #998 Afrocity

Okay I LOVE Japanese food. There is this soup called Oden.

Whenever I eat Oden soup, my taste buds are Thor for hours afterwards.

1025 DaddyG  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:31:49am

re: #877 rawmuse

Crap, now Cognito has got me wanting a Tenori-on.

That goes a long way towards explaining why most pop music backgrounds these days sound like an old Atari game console.

1026 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:32:05am

re: #1024 Occasional Reader

Whenever I eat Oden soup, my taste buds are Thor for hours afterwards.

Loki you.

1027 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:32:24am

Morning/Afternoon/Evening Lizards.

At home, back from the pub and just had dinner. What did I miss?

1028 phoenixgirl  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:32:33am

re: #1021 phoenixgirl

as straight unmarried couples or as platonic friends people can set up these same rights by giving each other power of attorney.

not getting them on you insurance but right to see them in the hospital, give care orders, sorry groggy from allergy meds.....didn't read the whole thing

1029 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:32:45am

re: #1018 Occasional Reader

I love Redheads. The Freckles. The fair skin. The whole package.

1030 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:32:52am

re: #1016 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He's gonna love my nuts.
-Slap Chopper Guy

I am beginning to think you have a thing for the Slap Chopper guy. /

1031 phoenixgirl  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:32:59am

re: #1028 phoenixgirl

not getting them on you insurance but right to see them in the hospital, give care orders, sorry groggy from allergy meds.....didn't read the whole thing

and now i'm responding to myself....this will be a long day

1032 Ojoe  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:33:02am

re: #941 Mad Al-Jaffee

Chicken Vindaloo !

1033 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:33:27am
1034 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:33:31am

I'm really digging Agent Walker on the current season of 24. Hope she doesn't get killed.

1035 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:33:37am

re: #1000 Occasional Reader

If you're ever in DC, try out a restaurant in the "Cleveland Park" neighborhood called "Indique". I submit that it could hold its head high even in the London market for Indian restaurants.

I would like to visit DC soon so I'll keep that place in mind. I've never tried Indian food in the US - I meant to last time I was over there in LA but my g/f was too busy getting me to try the local Jewish, Mexican, Ethiopian, Japanese etc restaurants. Not to mention the home cooking.

1036 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:33:46am

re: #1014 Iron Fist

so I get mistaken identification all the time. People calling my house looking for "XXXXX XXXXXXX",

You think you have it bad?

I get calls on my cellphone - fairly frequently - for Nancy Pelosi.

I'm not kidding.

1037 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:33:59am

re: #1024 Occasional Reader

Whenever I eat Oden soup, my taste buds are Thor for hours afterwards.

You won ton fool you.

1038 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:34:11am

re: #1029 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I love Redheads. The Freckles. The fair skin. The whole package.

So you don't think that they are evil creatures plotting to take over the world?

1039 DaddyG  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:34:32am

re: #808 Occasional Reader

I still don't quite "get" Facebook. Call me old-fashioned, but I'd rather NOT expose personal information for the entire planet to see!

My teens and I had a discussion about how to use Facebook that boiled down to "Pretend it is your own public relations firm and don't put anything so personal that you would regret anyone (and I mean anyone) having the information." This includes when you have the settings on friends only.

1040 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:34:45am

re: #1020 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

She was a very hot young thing....

if you ever do Universal Studios in Orlando, do not miss her thing they do for her....a fine tribute to an outstanding lady...and yes she was very hot, just ask Ricky

1041 Bubblehead II  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:34:47am

bbiaw. Going out to stimulate the economy the old fashioned way. Going to buy a new blu-ray dvd/vcr combo unit.

1042 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:34:59am

re: #1038 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Mmmmmm. Redheads. Mmmmmm.

1043 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:35:23am

re: #933 Ward Cleaver
Fibromyalgia most assuredly IS an illness and an extremely debilitating one at that. ElderZion widow, ChildofMary suffers from it and has for a long time - closes thing I can think of to it would be Rheumatoid Arthritis - really swells the joints and makes it hard to work with your hands.

1044 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:35:24am

re: #1036 Occasional Reader

I once got an email asking about booking some lesbian comedian. Can't remember her name - something Clinton (no, not Hilary). Apaprently me and her agent have the same name.

1045 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:35:25am

re: #1040 albusteve

if you ever do Universal Studios in Orlando, do not miss her thing they do for her....a fine tribute to an outstanding lady...and yes she was very hot, just ask Ricky

Luuuucccyyyyyy!

1046 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:35:28am

re: #1034 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'm really digging Agent Walker on the current season of 24. Hope she doesn't get killed.

Wouldn't mind seeing her in a spin-off, speaking of red-heads.

1047 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:35:34am

re: #1024 Occasional Reader

Whenever I eat Oden soup, my taste buds are Thor for hours afterwards.

re: #1026 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Loki you.

Either of you guys read Gaiman's American Gods?

1048 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:35:44am

re: #1037 Ford_Prefect

You won ton fool you.

Pho sure.

1049 Golem Akbar  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:35:44am

re: #1024 Occasional Reader

Whenever I eat Oden soup, my taste buds are Thor for hours afterwards.


Ven I finish my Oden soup, Valhalla for anoder.

1050 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:35:48am

re: #1042 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mmmmmm. Redheads. Mmmmmm.

I knew someone who referred to them as "fire c*nt"s.

1051 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:35:52am

Not in Our Backyard (Guantanamo Bay Detainee Edition)

As the Obama Administration scrambles to develop a plan for shuttering Guantanamo Bay, Congressmen from nine states trying to prevent incarceration of detainees from that facility in their home districts.

Golly-gee-willakers, the Democrats have only been complaining about Gitmo for the past 7 years. It's not like they've had any time to figure out what to do about it.

1052 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:35:59am

re: #1037 Ford_Prefect

You won ton fool you.

had a won ton truck won time...

1053 avanti  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:36:15am

re: #868 Honorary Yooper

What do you base this on? Mine is based on the overall trend to date, and the fact that the Dow seems to fall on bad news, news that was worse than expected, and whenever Geithner opens his mouth.

I've had pretty good luck on judging the market, but we'll see in a few weeks.

1054 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:37:09am

re: #776 Afrocity

They came and told me he was most likely canvasing.
I called his office this morning and spoke with him. He said there was a mix up and he had the wrong "me" ie someone with my name but not me. My name is pretty uncommon but whatever, he apologized.

I did make the call to Pulido's campaign today, as I said I would. I didn't mention your sig, but I said that a friend of mine had been approached by Zirkle whom I stressed was a full-on Nazi. Hopefully this helps the local GOP clean up it's act.

1055 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:37:10am

re: #1050 Kosh's Shadow

I knew someone who referred to them as "fire c*nt"s.

Probably a very lonely person.

1056 Ben Hur  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:37:33am

More info:

An outpost in David's Garden

Illegal Construction in Jerusalem

NGOs assert that Arab Jerusalemites have no choice but to build their homes illegally since the municipality systematically rejects their applications for building permits. Then they must contend with municipal inspectors who send bulldozers to demolish their homes.

Human rights lawyer Justus Reid Weiner, a scholar-in-residence at the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, has just completed the first systematic study of illegal construction in Jerusalem. Based on scores of interviews from across the political spectrum - from Mayor Olmert to Sari Nusseibeh, original documents, and on-site inspections, Weiner's heavily illustrated new book discredits the conventional wisdom about the causes and effects of illegal building, and documents a pattern of politically-motivated behavior and criminal profiteering that characterizes much of the construction in the Arab sector of the Holy City.

In the Jewish neighborhoods, illegal construction typically takes the form of additions to existing legal structures - such as closing a balcony or hollowing out under a building to create an extra room. In the Arab sector, however, illegal construction often takes the form of entire multi-floor buildings with 4 to 25 living units, built with the financial assistance of the Palestinian Authority on land that is not owned by the builder.

Don't expect the MSM to do any research.

1057 jorline  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:38:08am

Another sunny walk in the park day with Obama...life is goooood!

Geithner is testifying before a House Panel and the DOW is falling -215. He's bitching about tax breaks for gas and oil.

FDIC is broke and may out of money within six months...suring up those banks.

Doesn't look like GM will make it.

Hoping for a Change here...little help here!

We're so fucked!

BTW...good morning, Lizards.

1058 albusteve  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:38:24am

re: #1053 avanti

I've had pretty good luck on judging the market, but we'll see in a few weeks.

so has everyone else...pretty easy to see the trend...I prefer voodoo myself

1059 Erik The Red  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:38:58am

re: #1039 DaddyG

My teens and I had a discussion about how to use Facebook that boiled down to "Pretend it is your own public relations firm and don't put anything so personal that you would regret anyone (and I mean anyone) having the information." This includes when you have the settings on friends only.

Only your friends, who you approve, can see your profile.

1060 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:39:41am
1061 DaddyG  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:39:50am

re: #999 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wow. This thread is A.D.D. Theater.

I need an "Easily distracted by shiny objects" bumper sticker.

1062 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:40:42am
1063 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:41:22am

re: #1018 Occasional Reader

Miss Fields from Quantum of Solace. While the actress is not a true redhead, the film character was.

1064 Ayeless in Ghazi  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:41:31am

Redheads in art:

[Link: www.under-ice.com...]

1065 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:43:12am

re: #1063 Kenneth

Really? How do they show in the film that she's a true redhead. I'm not much of a Bond fan, but I think I want to see this one!

1066 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:45:08am

re: #998 Afrocity
"Sushi, eel..hmmmm" - Hey y'all ought to come on down South here - just ask for bait and that's what you'll get!
And much cheaper than those "sushi bars"!

1067 Digital Display  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:45:26am

re: #1018 Occasional Reader

A movie redhead who gets my full and undivided attention; that chick who tries to seduce Keanu Reeves near the end of The Devil's Advocate.

Yowza.


I like Ziva from NCIS..

1068 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:45:37am

re: #1053 avanti

I've had pretty good luck on judging the market, but we'll see in a few weeks.

Oh you've got "luck"! And here I thought it was just a silly hunch on your part or blind faith the the One.

Well, then, invest away folks, Avanti feels lucky!

1069 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:45:52am

The Obamassiah done continueth to taketh way: Dow -197 @ 6681, SPX -22, Compx -36, hike!

Next support, low 6300's; after that, low 5200's.

Given the current rate of descent with an odd dead-cat bounced about, we have some 45 odd days until the index's approach Obamazone or Pelosi.

Gunna.be.a.long.hot.summer.

1070 Digital Display  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:46:18am

re: #1036 Occasional Reader

You think you have it bad?

I get calls on my cellphone - fairly frequently - for Nancy Pelosi.

I'm not kidding.

yea..sorry about that..but it is fun.

1071 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:47:58am
1072 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:48:06am

re: #1065 Mad Al-Jaffee

Although not shown in the movie, I doubt the carpet matches the curtains.

I loved the film. Daniel Craig is the best Bond since Sean Connery. Here's a picture of agent Fields debriefing Bond.

1073 reine.de.tout  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:48:09am

re: #998 Afrocity

Okay I LOVE Japanese food. There is this soup called Oden. I love it. My tastes tend towards bland and starchy, which is strange because many Af-Am people love spicy food. My mom carried tabassco in her purse. I love potatoes, and rice. Sushi, eel..hmmmm


Doesn't everybody carry tobasco in their purse?

1074 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:49:24am
1075 avanti  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:49:48am

re: #1058 albusteve

so has everyone else...pretty easy to see the trend...I prefer voodoo myself

I see the trend as probing the bottom, others think it'll go a lot lower. I'm buying in now, if it goes to the predicted 6000, I paid too much. If you agree with the 6000 guess, sell it all now, and buy in later, easy money.

1076 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:50:01am
1077 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:51:21am

re: #1076 Iron Fist

Oh, man, but I could have so much fun with that. "Nancy, um, she's busy right now. No, I don't want to interrupt her. No, man it's like, she's giving me a blow right now. Do you want me to have her call you when we're done?"

Even better would be,"She's giving the president a blow."

1078 avanti  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:53:02am

re: #1068 Kenneth

Oh you've got "luck"! And here I thought it was just a silly hunch on your part or blind faith the the One.

Well, then, invest away folks, Avanti feels lucky!

I would never give anyone investment advice, just sharing my guess just like the first poster did. I would not suggest you follow either of us, we're both just giving a opinion..

1079 DaddyG  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:53:13am

re: #1059 Erik The Red

Only your friends, who you approve, can see your profile.

Yes- but once your information is digitized and posted you really have to be able to trust your friends with it. Given the loose definition of "freind" some teens have that's a lot of trust.

1080 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:53:34am

re: #1057 jorline Good morning my friend - didja get my e-mail from last night/early this AM ?

1081 JustABill  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:53:42am

re: #31 rawmuse

I heard the guy who wrote "Code Monkey" also wrote something everyday for some extended period. Are you by chance the author of that song?

1082 DaddyG  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:54:26am

re: #1063 Kenneth

Miss Fields from Quantum of Solace. While the actress is not a true redhead, the film character was.

My wife noticed in the credits to her amusement that Miss Fields first name was Strawberry.

1083 DaddyG  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:55:39am

Good grief - I try to catch up on a thread during lunch and find out that its been dead for 75 posts.

I must like writing to myself.

1084 Scorch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:57:43am

re: #243 littleoldlady

Fuggetaboutit.

/learn how to grow your own food


Maybe a little food for the old grey matter is in order.
[Link: www.cals.ncsu.edu...]

1085 realwest  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 8:58:48am

re: #1083 DaddyG
Well at least you didn't have any "disagreeable" discussions! LOL!

1086 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:00:32am

A picture really is worth a thousand words.

Check the expressions on the faces of these US troops.

Does it look like they like or trust the person they are listening to?

1087 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:01:14am

re: #1076 Iron Fist

"Nancy, um, she's busy right now. No, I don't want to interrupt her.

I've been more tempted to say, "Speaker Pelosi is in a meeting with Mr. bin Laden right now, can she get back to you?"

1088 Scorch  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:04:46am

re: #1086 Kenneth

I believe in the last election over 72% of the military personnel polled were pro McCain/Palin.

1089 Gus  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:09:55am

re: #1086 Kenneth

It would be interesting to see Barack Obama take a quiz on his basic military knowledge and then see the results. Think he'd fail?

On second thought, the public hasn't seen his records from Harvard or Columbia. I can't imagine why that would be.

Barack Obama: 100% Elocution/0% Substance.

1090 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:15:10am

re: #1089 Gus 802

It would be interesting to see Barack Obama take a quiz on his basic military knowledge and then see the results. Think he'd fail?

On second thought, the public hasn't seen his records from Harvard or Columbia. I can't imagine why that would be.

Barack Obama: 100% Elocution/0% Substance.

We need a new song parody
"I am the model of a modern US President"

1091 Occasional Reader  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:19:01am

re: #1089 Gus 802

It would be interesting to see Barack Obama take a quiz on his basic military knowledge and then see the results. Think he'd fail?

The guy who claimed that U.S. troops in Afghanistan were forced to load captured AK-47 rounds into their M-16s and M-4s? Uh, yeah, I'd say that's a safe bet.

1092 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:19:26am

re: #1089 Gus 802

Remember when he said if elected president he would order his Joint Chiefs of Staff to end the war in Iraq? Complete ignorance of the chain of command, yet he had the gall to think he could be Commander in Chief.

1093 Kenneth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:21:18am

re: #1091 Occasional Reader

But hey, his great-uncle marched with Patton when he liberated Auschwitz, so I'm sure young Barry leaned a thing or two about the army from him.

1094 DawnofTruth  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:22:25am

re: #1021 phoenixgirl
Phoenix, you can't put them on your health insurance through work. That is the big problem. Gays want to add their partner, That is fine but I want to add my grandchild (which right now you can't) If we are going to give gays the right, we need to give everyone the same rights. That is not what is being proposed.

1095 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:34:55am
1096 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 5, 2009 9:42:48am
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