And Now for the Lost Filmstrips of Father Carlos
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Cat juggling was only the beginning of the depravity.
301 comments
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:27:46pm |
Our Father, who art in heaven
hallowed be thy Name,
thy kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those
who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom,
and the power, and the glory,
for ever and ever.
Amen.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:29:57pm |
Why is the flounce-o-meter giving off such high readings?
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Political Atheist Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:30:03pm |
Charles,
Where did you get that video?!
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BryanS Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:30:12pm |
Weird video. But I was expecting something involving frogs /
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cenotaphium Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:30:55pm |
I.. I don't quite know what to make of all that. But I feel dirty.
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Van Helsing Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:31:01pm |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:31:13pm |
re: #6 Rightwingconspirator
It's from The Jerk.
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Political Atheist Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:32:15pm |
re: #10 Killgore Trout
I had totally forgotten that scene. Maybe deliberately...
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Charles Johnson Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:33:00pm |
This clip is actually from the anniversary edition of the DVD version of The Jerk.
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BryanS Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:33:40pm |
re: #10 Killgore Trout
It's from The Jerk.
Is this what passed for entertainment in the olden days :?)
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Political Atheist Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:34:51pm |
The scene I remember best was when Steve Martin was getting sniped at literally, said something about somebody really hating oil cans...
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Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:34:57pm |
In The Colosseum
This one's for the balcony
And this one's for the floor
As the senators decapitate
The presidential whore
The bald headed senators
Are splashing in the blood
The dogs are having someone
WHo is screaming in the mud
In the colosseum tonight
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theheat Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:35:03pm |
Cat juggling offers a way to exercise your bottle kittens.
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:36:46pm |
No costumes on dogs. Not for halloween, not for ' nuthin. Well...
Maybe they're okay on those little yappy dogs, but not on real ones.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:38:31pm |
re: #4 Ojoe
Who says this blog is against religion?
Mandy did not say that. She simply recited the Protestant version of the Lord's Prayer. She may have done that due to her long-standing aversion to taking the Lord's name in vain.
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:39:38pm |
re: #16 theheat
Cat juggling offers a way to exercise your bottle kittens.
some sick shit there amigo...I hope it's a gag
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Political Atheist Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:39:54pm |
That bottle kittens thing is just ... creeepy
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Ojoe Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:40:29pm |
re: #19 Dark_Falcon
(If you start a thread with the Our Father then the blog is / must be copacetic with religion.)
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cenotaphium Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:40:35pm |
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:41:02pm |
re: #20 albusteve
I'm still trying to plumb the depths of the mind that came up with that script/ material.
But I think I'm gonna need the hip waders.
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theheat Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:42:20pm |
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Political Atheist Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:42:41pm |
re: #24 tradewind
Obviously a site run by Dogs... Blue Dogs?
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Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:43:47pm |
re: #26 Mich-again
The fish teasing guy looked like Dave Grohl.
I thought it might have been Peter Sellers.
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:46:18pm |
Yep, dressing up pets is pretty depraved. Not sure why I have such a strong aversion to it, though.
The worst example I have seen? I went to a wedding reception where the groom had brought along his chihuahua. That's bad enough in itself, but he had dressed the appalling creature in a miniature tuxedo that actually matched his own. His bride thought this abominable display was very cute, thereby proving that they were a good match.
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theheat Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:50:52pm |
re: #29 Shiplord Kirel
Personally, I'm not a pet clothes buyer. But I'm surprised how Mr. Heat thinks it's fun to buy outfits for our godawful little terrier-ist. Halloween, Christmas - he likes the themed outfits.
You could add that to early dating questions you might ask a potential spouse. It's a good thing to know beforehand, and something most people wouldn't think of.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:51:16pm |
re: #13 BryanS
Is this what passed for entertainment in the olden days :?)
Yes, before Jim Carry made funny faces there was comedy.
/Uncle Milty had a huge cock
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:54:33pm |
re: #31 Killgore Trout
Yes, before Jim Carry made funny faces there was comedy.
/Uncle Milty had a huge cockhow huge?
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:56:31pm |
re: #27 Rightwingconspirator
Or their mothers.//
Anyway, it took this to clear out the images...love this one...
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:56:48pm |
Well, that's just silly!
Damn funny, though.
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:57:18pm |
re: #29 Shiplord Kirel
That's almost as distressing to me as little toddlers in a tux.
Arrgggh.
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avanti Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:57:27pm |
re: #1 MandyManners
Our Father, who art in heaven
hallowed be thy Name,
thy kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those
who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom,
and the power, and the glory,
for ever and ever.
Amen.
From a obscure sci-fi, the agnosic prayer:
Insofar as I may be heard by anything, which may or may not care what I say, I ask, if it matters, that you be forgiven for anything you may have done or failed to do which requires forgiveness. Conversely, if not forgiveness but something else may be required to insure any possible benefit for which you may be eligible after the destruction of your body, I ask that this, whatever it may be, be granted or withheld, as the case may be, in such a manner as to insure your receiving said benefit. I ask this in my capacity as your elected intermediary between yourself and that which may not be yourself, but which may have an interest in the matter of your receiving as much as it is possible for you to receive of this thing, and which may in some way be influenced by this ceremony. Amen.
i
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Gearhead Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:58:32pm |
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theheat Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:58:34pm |
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Political Atheist Mon, Oct 5, 2009 8:59:17pm |
re: #33 tradewind
Thanks that is perfect to clear my mind...
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:00:00pm |
re: #36 avanti
From a obscure sci-fi, the agnosic prayer:
Insofar as I may be heard by anything, which may or may not care what I say, I ask, if it matters, that you be forgiven for anything you may have done or failed to do which requires forgiveness. Conversely, if not forgiveness but something else may be required to insure any possible benefit for which you may be eligible after the destruction of your body, I ask that this, whatever it may be, be granted or withheld, as the case may be, in such a manner as to insure your receiving said benefit. I ask this in my capacity as your elected intermediary between yourself and that which may not be yourself, but which may have an interest in the matter of your receiving as much as it is possible for you to receive of this thing, and which may in some way be influenced by this ceremony. Amen.
i
Zelazny! Creatures of Light and Darkness! ("Shrive me, dad.")
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:00:15pm |
re: #40 Rightwingconspirator
YW.
It's hard to listen to the lyrics and not smile.
Unless you're a kitteh.
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Gearhead Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:02:21pm |
Any of you lizards have any experience with the security software Nod32? I think I'm about to fire Symantec.
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avanti Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:03:52pm |
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BryanS Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:05:37pm |
re: #45 avanti
Yes, but it's been tweaked over the the centuries through various translations, but still lovely, even in the original
from the site:
...
Lords Prayer, from the original Aramaic
Translation by Neil Douglas-Klotz in Prayers of the CosmosO Birther! Father- Mother of the Cosmos
...
So, that's where the Birther stuff came from. Who knew?
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cenotaphium Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:07:09pm |
re: #33 tradewind
Too much dog in that video. I must counter with Fatboy Slim's version of The Joker:
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Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:08:27pm |
re: #32 albusteve
how huge?
At the end of Milton's career he was in wheel chain and showed up for a comedy show the comedian on stage said, "There's a living legend and he brought a wheelchair for his cock." Uncle Milty stood up and said, "My cock is fine. The wheelchair's for mt balls."
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Gearhead Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:08:59pm |
re: #47 Racer X
Cruel Shoes
I used to have the Cruel Shoes story (as opposed to the book) on a 45.
Bizarrely funny. I think it laid the groundwork for my appreciation of Monty Python.
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:10:18pm |
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avanti Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:11:03pm |
re: #46 BryanS
So, that's where the Birther stuff came from. Who knew?
The translation to Old English made the Bible a much better read, much of the 2000 year old text was difficult to follow at best.
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:11:16pm |
re: #49 Killgore Trout
At the end of Milton's career he was in wheel chain and showed up for a comedy show the comedian on stage said, "There's a living legend and he brought a wheelchair for his cock." Uncle Milty stood up and said, "My cock is fine. The wheelchair's for mt balls."
the stuff you learn...
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:13:12pm |
re: #53 Gearhead
I don't know... re-tweeting a self-confessed chicken wrangler...?
:)
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:13:22pm |
Che and Mao...the boys are back in town
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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davinvalkri Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:13:54pm |
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Political Atheist Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:14:11pm |
re: #51 Charles
Thanks for running Michael Yon. Inspiring.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:14:46pm |
re: #46 BryanS
So, that's where the Birther stuff came from. Who knew?
I was once subjected to a lovely woman who had translated all of the Psalms in the first person, as though God were speaking them. And as though God were a rather possessive, batty, peacenik.
The bits that I remember from her version of the 23rd:
I will make you so comfortable that you could even sit down and have dinner in the presence of your enemies...
And when your life is done,
And you have completed all the tasks that I have set for you,
I want you to come and live with me for ever, and ever, and ever.
She was a very nice woman, with a deep if somewhat odd faith. But the fact that English translation could range from "and I shall dwell in the house of the Lord forever" to a line that made me desperately want to move to another state to get away from God sort of amazed me.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:15:34pm |
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cenotaphium Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:15:49pm |
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davinvalkri Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:16:44pm |
re: #62 Charles
Pretty sure I didn't say that.
It wasn't meant sarcastically, but it's nice to see that Mr. Moulitsas, whatever his political views, is civil. As are you, of course.
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:17:01pm |
Markos' twitter updates today bear striking resemblance to LGF's headliners...
Chicken or egg?
:)
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:17:02pm |
re: #58 albusteve
Che and Mao...the boys are back in town
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Great. Glorification of mass murders. Makes me want to puke.
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davinvalkri Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:20:48pm |
re: #63 cenotaphium
I see the lines in the sand have been drawn? Have at you!
(I like both animals really)
At least we're not fanatics, like the guys over at Tonmo. It's cuttlefish, not cuddlefish!
Gratuitous video of cuttlefish (with camouflage):
[Video]
...eh...I'm not a fan of cuttlefish.
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BryanS Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:21:04pm |
re: #61 SanFranciscoZionist
re: #54 avanti
Translations can make a huge difference in meaning. Use of words like kingdom and reign have a particular meaning, and were used in a time when kings ruled people as the normal political form of government. Looking at the Aramaic translation, it reads almost like a hippie wrote those words.
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:21:47pm |
yay!...New Mexico (where's that?) preserves some history
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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Racer X Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:23:51pm |
Foxes Jumping on my Trampoline
Safe for work - its not what you think.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:26:47pm |
The above Milton Berle cock story comes from: I Only Roast the Ones I Love: Busting Balls Without Burning Bridges
Recommended.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:28:28pm |
re: #69 BryanS
re: #54 avanti
Translations can make a huge difference in meaning. Use of words like kingdom and reign have a particular meaning, and were used in a time when kings ruled people as the normal political form of government. Looking at the Aramaic translation, it reads almost like a hippie wrote those words.
I'm dubious that's a direct translation.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:28:48pm |
re: #76 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm dubious that's a direct translation.
In other words, I think a hippie did write those words.
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avanti Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:28:56pm |
re: #69 BryanS
re: #54 avanti
Translations can make a huge difference in meaning. Use of words like kingdom and reign have a particular meaning, and were used in a time when kings ruled people as the normal political form of government. Looking at the Aramaic translation, it reads almost like a hippie wrote those words.
Remind me to ask Walter about the translation of the word for young woman to the word for virgin when they went from the Hebrew to the Greek in the third century. True or false ?
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:29:33pm |
Arrrghhh!
Natural Blood Pressure ad thingy is
creepiest. graphics. ever.
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davinvalkri Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:31:26pm |
re: #79 tradewind
Arrrghhh!
Natural Blood Pressure ad thingy is
creepiest. graphics. ever.
Why are holistic, alternative, "natural" health practices so damn popular? Don't the chemical types work better?
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BryanS Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:31:31pm |
re: #77 SanFranciscoZionist
In other words, I think a hippie did write those words.
Quite possibly. The Bible is nothing but a Hippie conspiracy to make us all liberals /:)
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:32:10pm |
re: #79 tradewind
Arrrghhh!
Natural Blood Pressure ad thingy is
creepiest. graphics. ever.
blood pressure is your friend
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swamprat Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:32:59pm |
re: #78 avanti
Rent the movie,"Snatch".
As in "heist" or "grab".(get your mind out of the gutter)
You will never look at a tea cosy the same way.
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jaunte Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:34:14pm |
re: #80 Racer X
On this week's schedule:
NASA's LCROSS mission will culminate with two lunar impacts at approximately 4:30 a.m. PDT on Oct. 9. The mission will search for water ice in the Cabeus A crater near the moon's south pole.
[Link: lcross.arc.nasa.gov...]
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Racer X Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:34:41pm |
The Super Scooby, Britain's largest burger with 2,645 calories. It is sold by the Jolly Fryer takeaway in Bristol and they are offering a free can of Diet Coke to anyone who can finish it in one go
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BryanS Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:34:52pm |
re: #78 avanti
Don't know the issue you refer to...you mean to ask if was there a changing of interpretation/meaning in some text around the 3rd century
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Political Atheist Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:35:27pm |
Anybody else watching the seekrit meetings to drop the dollar for oil buys?
[Link: www.independent.co.uk...]
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:35:40pm |
re: #86 Racer X
The Super Scooby, Britain's largest burger with 2,645 calories. It is sold by the Jolly Fryer takeaway in Bristol and they are offering a free can of Diet Coke to anyone who can finish it in one go
I've got my knife, fork and bib! Where's that plane ticket?
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Gearhead Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:35:59pm |
re: #86 Racer X
The Super Scooby, Britain's largest burger with 2,645 calories. It is sold by the Jolly Fryer takeaway in Bristol and they are offering a free can of Diet Coke to anyone who can finish it in one go
Don't forget the complimentary arteriogram.
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:36:27pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:36:42pm |
re: #78 avanti
Remind me to ask Walter about the translation of the word for young woman to the word for virgin when they went from the Hebrew to the Greek in the third century. True or false ?
Oh, no, don't start that at nine-thirty Pacific. We'll be here till dawn.
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Political Atheist Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:36:51pm |
re: #90 Gearhead
This would be a race between your ability to digest that monster and endure the wait list for the test...
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:37:57pm |
re: #81 davinvalkri
I think they have a place, as long as you don't exclude conventional medical treatment in favor of them. Example: ginger really does work as an anti-nausea thingy better than almost anything I have ever tried, and science is just now grudgingly admitting that yeah, there is something in there that does that. It's being used at Mayo now. And I've had much better luck using this new-agey type sinus rinse thing than the standard decongestants.
But I agree with you, when it comes to medical treatment, I want all the bases covered. Herbs may be great but gimme that Big Pharma when I need it.
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:38:20pm |
re: #91 acwgusa
Is that even covered by NIS?
NHS. Yeesh. Botched my acronym, which I KNOW isn't covered.
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avanti Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:38:29pm |
re: #92 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, no, don't start that at nine-thirty Pacific. We'll be here till dawn.
OK, I'll drop it until I see Walter, but he's pretty good about that sort of thing.
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BryanS Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:39:15pm |
re: #86 Racer X
The Super Scooby, Britain's largest burger with 2,645 calories. It is sold by the Jolly Fryer takeaway in Bristol and they are offering a free can of Diet Coke to anyone who can finish it in one go
"and they are offering a free can of Diet Coke to anyone who can finish it in one go"
How American...worked a fast food job in high school. I cannot tell you how frequently I saw the most rotund people think the diet coke meant something with their big fat ass burger and fries .
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Racer X Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:39:48pm |
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:40:37pm |
re: #98 BryanS
Love the ad for some sandwich shop that goes ' I'll have the Does This Make My Ass Look Fat' combo...
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:40:48pm |
re: #98 BryanS
"and they are offering a free can of Diet Coke to anyone who can finish it in one go"
How American...worked a fast food job in high school. I cannot tell you how frequently I saw the most rotund people think the diet coke meant something with their big fat ass burger and fries .
I'll have you know I went with the real Coke, thank you.
If I'm going to go, I'm going out in a Dump Truck!
/Cover THAT, ObamaCare!
/S
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:41:29pm |
re: #86 Racer X
The Super Scooby, Britain's largest burger with 2,645 calories. It is sold by the Jolly Fryer takeaway in Bristol and they are offering a free can of Diet Coke to anyone who can finish it in one go
I'd like to see the BO admin step in and regulate the number of onion rings...12 is just food porn imo
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:42:13pm |
re: #102 albusteve
I'd like to see the BO admin step in and regulate the number of onion rings...12 is just food porn imo
Food and Porn? Where?!??
/whoops, you said food porn.
/s
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Killgore Trout Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:42:28pm |
Ah, here's your problem...
UPDATED: 2009 Nobel Prize in Medicine (laureate was fired by W.)
Today, the Nobel Committee awarded the 2009 Nobel Prize in Medicine to Elizabeth Blackburn, Carol Greider, and Jack Szostak for their work on telomeres and an enzyme called telomerase.
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Racer X Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:42:45pm |
re: #102 albusteve
I'd like to see the BO admin step in and regulate the number of onion rings...12 is just food porn imo
I question the accuracy of the calorie count - looks more like 26,000 to me.
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:42:49pm |
re: #98 BryanS
That reminds me, O/T: h1n1 flu prevent update... do not use those wooden coffee stick stirrer thingys that they stick in a bunch in a jar... or even the big thing of plastic spoons. Grab a wrapped straw instead and use it to stir the coffee... you don't know where those stir sticks were before they were stuck in the jar, and then... you don't know who has dug around picking one out before you got there.
Just saying.
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BryanS Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:42:55pm |
re: #92 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh, no, don't start that at nine-thirty Pacific. We'll be here till dawn.
There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life. Not just a catchy slogan, but words to live by :)
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:43:36pm |
re: #106 tradewind
That reminds me, O/T: h1n1 flu prevent update... do not use those wooden coffee stick stirrer thingys that they stick in a bunch in a jar... or even the big thing of plastic spoons. Grab a wrapped straw instead and use it to stir the coffee... you don't know where those stir sticks were before they were stuck in the jar, and then... you don't know who has dug around picking one out before you got there.
Just saying.
Or, do what I do, and don't drink coffee.
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swamprat Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:44:04pm |
re: #78 avanti
Here you go. An excellent scholarly discussion of this is in the first 4 minutes of this charming family film,
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Charles Johnson Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:44:55pm |
'Tom Reagan' in the previous thread, by the way, was 'taxfreekiller'.
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Gearhead Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:45:16pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:46:21pm |
re: #86 Racer X
The Super Scooby, Britain's largest burger with 2,645 calories. It is sold by the Jolly Fryer takeaway in Bristol and they are offering a free can of Diet Coke to anyone who can finish it in one go
Put those onion rings on the side, hold the lettuce, and I'd try one of those.
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BryanS Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:46:26pm |
re: #101 acwgusa
I'll have you know I went with the real Coke, thank you.
If I'm going to go, I'm going out in a Dump Truck!
/Cover THAT, ObamaCare!
/S
No problem. We'll tax the crap out of fat foods . Under Obamacare™, we'll have a Commissar in every commissary.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:46:28pm |
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:46:55pm |
re: #104 Killgore Trout
Ah, here's your problem...
UPDATED: 2009 Nobel Prize in Medicine (laureate was fired by W.)
Damn egghead forgot who she was working for...
I'd add a sarc tag, but that's a pretty fair description of fact.
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Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:47:19pm |
re: #110 Charles
'Tom Reagan' in the previous thread, by the way, was 'taxfreekiller'.
Figures. TFK was obviously hiding some serious weirdness under his little Haiku mask.
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:47:30pm |
re: #111 Gearhead
It's unthinkable.
/Literally. I couldn't think./
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:48:04pm |
re: #116 tradewind
Life's too short.
Besides, it's healthy.
Healthy? We'll have NONE of that here now, you see?
/needs to break unhealthy addiction to real coke and mentos before Obama gets them.
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cenotaphium Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:48:07pm |
re: #110 Charles
These people are into role-playing at an unhealthy level. Maybe they could try some relaxing D&D instead?
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:48:23pm |
re: #110 Charles
'Tom Reagan' in the previous thread, by the way, was 'taxfreekiller'.
His next sock should Gabby Johnson. We'd never figure it out.
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:48:40pm |
re: #110 Charles
no huh-whay!
Well, points for costume design and script, gotta say...
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Racer X Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:48:43pm |
re: #110 Charles
'Tom Reagan' in the previous thread, by the way, was 'taxfreekiller'.
You gotta beshittin me!
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:48:43pm |
re: #110 Charles
'Tom Reagan' in the previous thread, by the way, was 'taxfreekiller'.
I KNEW it!
jus kidding...
weird
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:49:28pm |
re: #114 BryanS
No problem. We'll tax the crap out of fat foods . Under Obamacare™, we'll have a Commissar in every commissary.
Bah! I squish commissar with patriotic fat American ass!
/horrible way to go...
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:49:45pm |
re: #120 acwgusa
Don't fear the Obama's wrath... you can always throw the cigs back in his face.
/not literally dammit don't start, democrats/
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BryanS Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:51:21pm |
re: #120 acwgusa
Healthy? We'll have NONE of that here now, you see?
/needs to break unhealthy addiction to real coke and mentos before Obama gets them.
First chug a liter or so of real coke, then pop the Mentos. Hilarity ensues.
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Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:51:31pm |
re: #121 cenotaphium
These people are into role-playing at an unhealthy level. Maybe they could try some relaxing D&D instead?
Exactly! He never let down his silly character.
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:51:35pm |
re: #127 tradewind
Don't fear the Obama's wrath... you can always throw the cigs back in his face.
/not literally dammit don't start, democrats/
People do that here in Southern Cali...2 to 3 of the wildfires started that way. I've come to the conclusion that the next person I see throw a cigarette out the window, I'm going to toss them out the window of their car.
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Gearhead Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:51:50pm |
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BryanS Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:52:26pm |
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:52:35pm |
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:53:01pm |
re: #130 BryanS
First chug a liter or so of real coke, then pop the Mentos. Hilarity ensues.
Done that. Got sick. Learned lesson.
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cenotaphium Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:53:12pm |
re: #130 BryanS
First chug a liter or so of real coke, then pop the Mentos. Hilarity ensues.
Myth Busted. :(
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:53:24pm |
re: #110 Charles
'Tom Reagan' in the previous thread, by the way, was 'taxfreekiller'.
So, that's what he meant over at The Deuce. He sounded like he had a sock puppet, but nobody sounded like him. Also, centaur was posting over there. He was rooting for the Bears so I was somewhat reluctant to blow the whistle on a fellow fan. But TFK's Creationist Raid has changed things. Here's centaur's post from 2.0:
68. Centaur on 5 October, 2009 at 6:17 pm reply
re: #62 by Nevergiveup
Yep. December/January is always fun on the lakefront! I love it when they have to plow off the yard lines. (Except for those indoor wimps in Minnesota and Detroit …)
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Cato the Elder Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:53:32pm |
For anyone who's interested in the singer I mentioned in the last thread, here is a YouTube vid of Zhanna Bichevskaya singing Ballad of the Don, perhaps my favorite song of hers.
It is such a tragedy that she's gone Russian nationalist, complete with Czarism and ethnic hate. But listen to her as she was back in the 1970s. The last few bars are magical.
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Gearhead Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:53:32pm |
re: #134 BryanS
Have you done any community organizing?
You mean tax advice for small business men?
No.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:53:53pm |
re: #110 Charles
'Tom Reagan' in the previous thread, by the way, was 'taxfreekiller'.
Oh for heaven's sake. So he can form complete sentences?
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:53:57pm |
re: #117 austin_blue
Without commenting on the merits of her research, being fired by Dubya would tend to boost you right to the top of the nobel committee's A-list.
See also Carter, Jimmy
Arafat, Yassar
Gore, Al
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Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:56:13pm |
re: #141 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh for heaven's sake. So he can form complete sentences?
Hard to believe huh?
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SteveC Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:58:37pm |
re: #130 BryanS
First chug a liter or so of real coke, then pop the Mentos. Hilarity ensues.
I know a guy who chewed the Alka-Seltzer, then drank the water...
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Oct 5, 2009 9:59:24pm |
re: #143 Bagua
Hard to believe huh?
Irritating. I was given to believe that the cryptic style here was due to head injury during the Vietnam War. The fact that he can apparently maintain a pretty good imitation of a clueless creationist sucker just makes ME feel a sucker for putting up with the haiku.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:00:32pm |
re: #141 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh for heaven's sake. So he can form complete sentences?
Yes he can. He used our image of what he talks like to conceal the truth about his sock puppet. It was a good tactic, but thankfully one Charles is good at uncovering.
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:01:03pm |
Did anyone see the July Popular Science where the University of Texas came up with a fission-fusion combo reactor that ran off a fission reactor off the spent fuel of a fusion reactor? I thought was really neat. We should be using that here in the U.S.
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Gus Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:01:17pm |
re: #142 tradewind
Without commenting on the merits of her research, being fired by Dubya would tend to boost you right to the top of the nobel committee's A-list.
See also Carter, Jimmy
Arafat, Yassar
Gore, Al
According to the Nobel website there have been 816 individuals and organizations that earned a Nobel prize. You cite 3 or 0.368% of the total.
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BryanS Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:01:24pm |
re: #144 SteveC
I know a guy who chewed the Alka-Seltzer, then drank the water...
Would be pretty hard to swallow while the thing's still fizzing. Works on birds to make their stomaches go poof because they don't have saliva to know what will happen.
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:02:44pm |
re: #142 tradewind
Without commenting on the merits of her research, being fired by Dubya would tend to boost you right to the top of the nobel committee's A-list.
See also Carter, Jimmy
Arafat, Yassar
Gore, Al
Considering that the research was done decades ago and she was part of a trio, I doubt it was relevant. Not only that, but that candidate pool is so frickin' huge...
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:04:03pm |
re: #97 Racer X
Cool! Going to have to watch for those!
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:04:58pm |
re: #147 acwgusa
Did anyone see the July Popular Science where the University of Texas came up with a fission-fusion combo reactor that ran off a fission reactor off the spent fuel of a fusion reactor? I thought was really neat. We should be using that here in the U.S.
There is no fusion reactor in existence? Hello?
(I think that would have made the local fishwrap.)
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:05:04pm |
re: #148 Gus 802
Just hop off the bus, Gus.
I wasn't going for numbers, just an example.
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:05:57pm |
re: #148 Gus 802
According to the Nobel website there have been 816 individuals and organizations that earned a Nobel prize. You cite 3 or 0.368% of the total.
And I don't Yourafart was fired by Bush.
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:06:48pm |
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:07:19pm |
re: #147 acwgusa
Did anyone see the July Popular Science where the University of Texas came up with a fission-fusion combo reactor that ran off a fission reactor off the spent fuel of a fusion reactor? I thought was really neat. We should be using that here in the U.S.
this is the future
[Link: nextbigfuture.com...]
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:08:21pm |
re: #152 austin_blue
There is no fusion reactor in existence? Hello?
(I think that would have made the local fishwrap.)
It was a design for, not an actual reactor. Left that little important detail slip by. Sorry.
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Gus Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:08:28pm |
re: #155 austin_blue
*think* Yourafart, etc.
PIMF
No, he wasn't. There have been a lot of excellent people that have earned Nobel prizes over the years. Cherry picking through a couple of negative examples, as in this case less than 1%, is irrelevant.
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Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:08:57pm |
re: #156 albusteve
this is the future
[Link: nextbigfuture.com...]
It's too sensible, the Greenies will find a reason to kill it.
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:12:46pm |
re: #156 albusteve
this is the future
[Link: nextbigfuture.com...]
Call me when I get my own personal nuclear reactor.
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:13:07pm |
re: #159 Bagua
It's too sensible, the Greenies will find a reason to kill it.
it's not the Greenies, it's their pals, the judges that allow blocking suits to tie up progress
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:13:19pm |
re: #160 acwgusa
Call me when I get my own personal nuclear reactor.
Cripes. I'm stupid tonight. Call me WHEN I can get m own personal nuclear reactor.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:14:48pm |
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:15:10pm |
re: #150 austin_blue
She may have been the best candidate. I'm just taking her words, that she considered her firing ' a badge of honor', because I promise you, that's what they were to the Nobel jury. You can find articles written about the anti-Bush bias on the nobel committee all over the archives of the MSM, and I am not talking about some speculation in WorldNutDaily [sic]... rather the NYT, just to cite one example, saying that the award to Gore was an expression of anti-Bush sentiment on the committee.
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:15:13pm |
re: #162 acwgusa
Cripes. I'm stupid tonight. Call me WHEN I can get m own personal nuclear reactor.
One more time! Call me WHEN I can get my own personal nuclear reactor!
There! NO TYPOS!
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:15:15pm |
re: #159 Bagua
It's too sensible, the Greenies will find a reason to kill it.
Actually, if we could actually get more power *out* of fusion than we need to put *into* it to get a millisecond of reaction, I think you would find that most on the left wouldn't just support it, they'd demand it. The problem with fission is the waste- it's a bitch kitty, of a problem.
Regardless, I am one Dem who wholeheartedly supports a combination of efficiencies, renewables, and a massive expansion of nuclear fission for baseline generation.
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:15:22pm |
re: #160 acwgusa
Call me when I get my own personal nuclear reactor.
there is little reason to believe that the Hyperopn could not be even smaller and cheaper...and nuclear power is the key to desalination
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:16:12pm |
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:16:45pm |
re: #158 Gus 802
Sorry, left out Mo' El Baradei's peace prize in 2005. So richly deserved.
/not/
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:16:51pm |
re: #167 albusteve
there is little reason to believe that the Hyperopn could not be even smaller and cheaper...and nuclear power is the key to desalination
Ah. Enviros have been blocking desal plants here in SoCal due to the fact that "we could harm the fish."
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:18:13pm |
re: #170 acwgusa
Ah. Enviros have been blocking desal plants here in SoCal due to the fact that "we could harm the fish."
dead fish makes excellent fertilizer...a twofer!
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:18:15pm |
re: #168 Dark_Falcon
SJ's Flouncapult must have been down for maintenance.
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Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:19:01pm |
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:19:24pm |
re: #171 albusteve
CA well on its way to becoming the US' first failed state, but hey... the fish are happy and well cared-for.
///
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:19:34pm |
re: #171 albusteve
dead fish makes excellent fertilizer...a twofer!
Also the reason water supplies got cut to our farming lands here in CA.
"Fish need the water more than people do!"
"Great, so we let people starve so fish can swim. Makes sense to me!"
/feh...
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:20:27pm |
re: #170 acwgusa
Ah. Enviros have been blocking desal plants here in SoCal due to the fact that "we could harm the fish."
counter sue...start a grass roots movement like they did...unblock the blockage and force the issue...there is an ocean of water off the coast...insanity is no excuse to ruin the state
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SpaceJesus Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:20:37pm |
re: #172 tradewind
SJ's Flouncapult must have been down for maintenance.
i had it all fired up and ready to go, but then i went to the pub
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:21:24pm |
re: #175 acwgusa
Also the reason water supplies got cut to our farming lands here in CA.
"Fish need the water more than people do!"
"Great, so we let people starve so fish can swim. Makes sense to me!"/feh...
My own view: "So long rare carp, been nice knowing you." One rare carp is not worth ruining all that farmland.
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:21:46pm |
re: #174 tradewind
CA well on its way to becoming the US' first failed state, but hey... the fish are happy and well cared-for.
///
Becoming?? We're there! The Governator is asking the Feds for money to build a high speed rail from LA to SF, which is another great idea, because hey, we just cut benefits to people on aid here!
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:22:11pm |
re: #154 austin_blue
Okay. In your mind's eye, transpose that ' fired by Bush' to ' diametrically opposed to any policy or program of the Bush administration', and you'll be able to work with that.
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SteveC Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:22:16pm |
re: #160 acwgusa
Call me when I get my own personal nuclear reactor.
"Why worry? Each one of us is carrying an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back."
/Who ya gonna call?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:22:38pm |
re: #176 albusteve
counter sue...start a grass roots movement like they did...unblock the blockage and force the issue...there is an ocean of water off the coast...insanity is no excuse to ruin the state
Grassroots probably won't work. Most of Cali are city dwellers who have no idea how their food is grown. They'll side with the enviros.
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:22:48pm |
re: #177 SpaceJesus
See why we need missile defense!
///
Got to keep your guard up at all times.
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:23:21pm |
re: #178 Dark_Falcon
My own view: "So long rare carp, been nice knowing you." One rare carp is not worth ruining all that farmland.
a few people are dictating the game to the masses...people are too busy watching AmIdol to worry about their own drinking water
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:23:25pm |
re: #176 albusteve
counter sue...start a grass roots movement like they did...unblock the blockage and force the issue...there is an ocean of water off the coast...insanity is no excuse to ruin the state
re: #181 SteveC
"Why worry? Each one of us is carrying an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back."
/Who ya gonna call?
"They've been out of business for years!"
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Racer X Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:23:44pm |
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:23:50pm |
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:24:11pm |
Strangely enough, Spiro Agnew:
"I'm not asking for government censorship... I'm asking whether a form of censorship already exists when the news that 40 million Americans receive each night is determined by a handful of men responsible only to their corporate employers."
what one finds while surfing . .
Hey, Lizards, What's up tonite?
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:24:16pm |
re: #179 acwgusa
I slapped my face this morning when I heard the comment that prison guards in CA are retiring with lifetime pensions of more than 100k a year. If this is true, no wonder... no state can sustain that type of entitlement.
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:24:50pm |
re: #175 acwgusa
Also the reason water supplies got cut to our farming lands here in CA.
"Fish need the water more than people do!"
"Great, so we let people starve so fish can swim. Makes sense to me!"/feh...
People starved? Where?
This is what happens when you depend on irrigation farming in a Freakin' Desert!
Your dry land farming is more important than the folks who make their living in fisheries? Really? Guess it depends on whose ox is being gored.
Sustainability is a two way street. Learn it, live it, it's the future.
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:25:00pm |
re: #189 tradewind
I slapped my face this morning when I heard the comment that prison guards in CA are retiring with lifetime pensions of more than 100k a year. If this is true, no wonder... no state can sustain that type of entitlement.
Mostly because of deferred comp.
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:25:23pm |
re: #188 ggt
The jig, for tom reagan...
:)
But what a show while it lasted.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:25:33pm |
re: #181 SteveC
"Why worry? Each one of us is carrying an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back."
/Who ya gonna call?
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Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:25:47pm |
re: #166 austin_blue
The problem is no Democrats or those on the Left, it is the extreme Greenies who oppose everything for some reason.
Witness the fight against Windmills because it might upset the mating dance of the lesser prairie chicken.
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:26:36pm |
re: #190 austin_blue
People starved? Where?
This is what happens when you depend on irrigation farming in a Freakin' Desert!
Your dry land farming is more important than the folks who make their living in fisheries? Really? Guess it depends on whose ox is being gored.
Sustainability is a two way street. Learn it, live it, it's the future.
We could solve it, if we could build desal plants. The fish would be fine, and the farms would be fine. Guess what? Greenie Blocked!
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:27:08pm |
re: #180 tradewind
Okay. In your mind's eye, transpose that ' fired by Bush' to ' diametrically opposed to any policy or program of the Bush administration', and you'll be able to work with that.
They didn't have to be diametrically opposed. They just had to defend the scientific method. Facts, you know. Very inconvenient to certain policy positions.
Which, you will note, are not necessarily based on science.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:27:39pm |
re: #192 tradewind
The jig, for tom reagan...
:)
But what a show while it lasted.
That's TFK for you. Whatever else he may be, he's never dull.
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:28:00pm |
re: #190 austin_blue
The farming industry of the San Joaquin Valley and the food it supplies to the entire country, and the jobs that flow from that... is more important than the life of the delta smelt. You bet'cha.
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:28:26pm |
re: #182 Dark_Falcon
Grassroots probably won't work. Most of Cali are city dwellers who have no idea how their food is grown. They'll side with the enviros.
it's not a referendum issue...agribusiness is worth billions...go after the judges with a massive info campaign or whatever...do something
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:29:39pm |
re: #194 Bagua
The problem is no Democrats or those on the Left, it is the extreme Greenies who oppose everything for some reason.
Witness the fight against Windmills because it might upset the mating dance of the lesser prairie chicken.
And if the majority of reasonable people stood up and threw the Bullshit Flag, that kind of crap would go away.
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:31:00pm |
re: #200 austin_blue
And if the majority of reasonable people stood up and threw the Bullshit Flag, that kind of crap would go away.
Ewww! That flag's made out what now???
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:31:02pm |
re: #198 tradewind
The farming industry of the San Joaquin Valley and the food it supplies to the entire country, and the jobs that flow from that... is more important than the life of the delta smelt. You bet'cha.
Quite Concur.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:31:21pm |
re: #189 tradewind
I slapped my face this morning when I heard the comment that prison guards in CA are retiring with lifetime pensions of more than 100k a year. If this is true, no wonder... no state can sustain that type of entitlement.
There are places in California in which 100K is barely a living wage.
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:31:32pm |
re: #194 Bagua
it is the extreme Greenies who oppose everything for some reason.
But if their reps like Pelosi didn't go along with it, it wouldn't matter. They just cater to the insanity.
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Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:31:36pm |
re: #200 austin_blue
And if the majority of reasonable people stood up and threw the Bullshit Flag, that kind of crap would go away.
I'm not so sure, we would need a legal framework to deny them the right to sue.
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:33:03pm |
re: #203 ggt
Not talking about La Jolla or the Hollywood Hills, or Nob Hill.
The point is that the unions have killed the goose that laid the Golden State eggs.
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Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:33:14pm |
re: #204 tradewind
But if their reps like Pelosi didn't go along with it, it wouldn't matter. They just cater to the insanity.
No it matters, they tie things up in the courts, delay, studies, reports, appeals, driving up the cost. These activists are well funded and dance to their own music.
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:34:10pm |
re: #198 tradewind
The farming industry of the San Joaquin Valley and the food it supplies to the entire country, and the jobs that flow from that... is more important than the life of the delta smelt. You bet'cha.
Then why don't they try growing less water intensive crops? You don't think there are other areas of the country (like Florida) who can pick up a lot of the slack? And do you really think it's just smelt? Really? Migratory waterfowl. Salmon. Oysters.
Like I say, it depends on whose ox is getting gored.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:34:21pm |
re: #171 albusteve
Weren't lobsters considered larger-than-life vermin by some of the early european settlers on the east coast- and they'd chop up the crustaceans and feed them to the livestock or fertilise the fields with the shells and carcasses?
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:34:23pm |
Am listening to Nixon and Mao by Margaret McMillian. Mao was a crazy man.
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:34:48pm |
re: #206 tradewind
Not talking about La Jolla or the Hollywood Hills, or Nob Hill.
The point is that the unions have killed the goose that laid the Golden State eggs.
unfunded state pension funds are as much as 50bil or so...I've read various numbers tho
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:35:08pm |
re: #201 acwgusa
Ewww! That flag's made out what now???
Bullshit. But it has been dried and heated to 160 degrees to kill pathogens.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:35:22pm |
re: #206 tradewind
Not talking about La Jolla or the Hollywood Hills, or Nob Hill.
The point is that the unions have killed the goose that laid the Golden State eggs.
Those guys had a *shit* job. AND 100K isn't what it used to be.
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:35:48pm |
re: #207 Bagua
Then they did it to themselves. Their only hope is that the voters will get so fed up that they will agree to dialing Nanny 911 and letting her come in and take over the case until the grownups are back in charge.
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:35:48pm |
re: #209 Fenway_Nation
Weren't lobsters considered larger-than-life vermin by some of the early european settlers on the east coast- and they'd chop up the crustaceans and feed them to the livestock or fertilise the fields with the shells and carcasses?
Sea Roaches.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:36:17pm |
re: #209 Fenway_Nation
Weren't lobsters considered larger-than-life vermin by some of the early european settlers on the east coast- and they'd chop up the crustaceans and feed them to the livestock or fertilise the fields with the shells and carcasses?
I think they look like giant insects. Wouldn't eat one if I was starving.
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Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:36:36pm |
re: #209 Fenway_Nation
Weren't lobsters considered larger-than-life vermin by some of the early european settlers on the east coast- and they'd chop up the crustaceans and feed them to the livestock or fertilise the fields with the shells and carcasses?
Yes, I've heard there was a law prohibiting feeding lobster to one's slave more than a few times per week. They used to wash up on the shores.
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:36:52pm |
re: #209 Fenway_Nation
Weren't lobsters considered larger-than-life vermin by some of the early european settlers on the east coast- and they'd chop up the crustaceans and feed them to the livestock or fertilise the fields with the shells and carcasses?
they might as well still be for all I care...lobster is way over rated imo..not worth the money
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Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:37:21pm |
re: #216 ggt
I think they look like giant insects. Wouldn't eat one if I was starving.
The SCUBA crowd calls them bugs.
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:37:23pm |
re: #213 ggt
And now they can go out and get a Non ' shit' job in retirement , all the while collecting their full paycheck. Must be really discouraging to a teacher, looking at that set up.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:37:39pm |
re: #216 ggt
Which kind of makes me wonder who the first person to see a lobster and say 'Hey- that might be yummy!' was...
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:38:00pm |
re: #208 austin_blue
Then why don't they try growing less water intensive crops? You don't think there are other areas of the country (like Florida) who can pick up a lot of the slack? And do you really think it's just smelt? Really? Migratory waterfowl. Salmon. Oysters.
Like I say, it depends on whose ox is getting gored.
And when Florida gets nailed by hurricane and a years crop gets wiped out?
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:38:22pm |
re: #205 Bagua
I'm not so sure, we would need a legal framework to deny them the right to sue.
Not if the basic research was funded by the feds to make the objection moot beforehand. You would think that industry would pop for it, but no. They don't.
Do windmills pose an unacceptable risk? How tough is that?
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SteveC Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:38:27pm |
re: #212 austin_blue
Bullshit. But it has been dried and heated to 160 degrees to kill pathogens.
I hope that's not the Freak Flag that runs up the flagpole whenever Superfreak plays!
/It's such a freaky scene!
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:39:41pm |
re: #216 ggt
I think they look like giant insects. Wouldn't eat one if I was starving.
Like I said, sea roaches. But absolutely delicious. Incapable of carrying human-compatible parasites. Mush safer than terrestrial protein.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:39:42pm |
re: #223 austin_blue
Apparently they do if you live on Nantucket or Martha's Vineyard...
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:40:32pm |
re: #222 acwgusa
And when Florida gets nailed by hurricane and a years crop gets wiped out?
we will be eating less beef in the future...way too much prime farmland is used for feed corn...figure out another food for the cows or get rid of them...you could grow a shitload of celery in Iowa
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:40:33pm |
re: #221 Fenway_Nation
Nothing better than diving for lobsters off of a reef in the Caymans, taking them back to an out island and having the day captain boil them up for you while you crack open a Red Stripe. Just add melted butter and say mmm mmm mmm.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:40:54pm |
re: #221 Fenway_Nation
Which kind of makes me wonder who the first person to see a lobster and say 'Hey- that might be yummy!' was...
A starving guy.
Same answer for all of these "who was the first person to eat that" questions.
Starving people.
Snails?
Starving people.
Tree bark?
Starving.
Hallucinogenic mushrooms that make you throw up before you get the high?
Starving guys.
A good appetite is the best sauce...
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:41:06pm |
I'm tired and need to get to bed. I'll be back in the morning.
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:41:07pm |
re: #223 austin_blue
Not if the basic research was funded by the feds to make the objection moot beforehand. You would think that industry would pop for it, but no. They don't.
Do windmills pose an unacceptable risk? How tough is that?
NIMBY's.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:41:47pm |
re: #230 Dark_Falcon
G'nite, dark falcon!
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:41:58pm |
re: #229 Cato the Elder
A starving guy.
Same answer for all of these "who was the first person to eat that" questions.
Starving people.
Snails?
Starving people.
Tree bark?
Starving.
Hallucinogenic mushrooms that make you throw up before you get the high?
Starving guys.
A good appetite is the best sauce...
Two guys, and a bet.
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:42:53pm |
re: #226 Fenway_Nation
Apparently they do if you live on Nantucket or Martha's Vineyard...
Again, if the research had been done shooting down their arguments beforehand, the point would be moot. And those folks are NIMBY as hell. (Not to be confused with the NAMBI(s), equally annoying, Not Against My Business Interests.)
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:43:06pm |
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Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:43:43pm |
re: #223 austin_blue
Not if the basic research was funded by the feds to make the objection moot beforehand. You would think that industry would pop for it, but no. They don't.
Do windmills pose an unacceptable risk? How tough is that?
I'm not sure the taxpayers want to pay for unlimited studies for every bird, snail or toad that some-one has worries about. Study one and they will find another.
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:44:30pm |
re: #231 acwgusa
D
o windmills pose an unacceptable risk
Only if they threaten to block the view off Martha's Vineyard.
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:45:12pm |
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:47:27pm |
re: #238 austin_blue
See my 234. Equally annoying types.
NIMBY's don't care if the research is done, or who does it. They don't want it, regardless.
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tradewind Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:47:58pm |
Breaking...
The Dems now have their campaign slogan for the midterm elections.
Harry Reid has just called Republicans 'the Fist-Pumpers'.
Yeah, that's the winning issue.
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:48:10pm |
re: #237 tradewind
D
Only if they threaten to block the view off Martha's Vineyard.
windmills are a waste of time...way too expensive
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:49:06pm |
I'm just waiting for the next big thing to be python meat.
Kill two birds with one stone- fill some sort of culinary niche while taking care of an invasive species problem.
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Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:49:20pm |
re: #234 austin_blue
Again, if the research had been done shooting down their arguments beforehand, the point would be moot. And those folks are NIMBY as hell. (Not to be confused with the NAMBI(s), equally annoying, Not Against My Business Interests.)
Research are only pieces of paper for one side to wave about in court, they help but things still drag through the courts, and they just allege the studies are wrong, incomplete, biased, etc.
The minute a project gets proposed they start rooting about like pigs looking for truffles, but they are looking for anything they can find and raise as an issue.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:49:30pm |
Speaking of cat juggling,
[Link: www.sfgate.com...]
Whatever Trent Franks is on, it's either way too much or not nearly enough.
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acwgusa Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:50:39pm |
re: #241 tradewind
Breaking...
The Dems now have their campaign slogan for the midterm elections.
Harry Reid has just called Republicans 'the Fist-Pumpers'.
Yeah, that's the winning issue.
Ewww! The image that popped into my head proves I need HELP, and FAST!
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albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:52:49pm |
re: #243 Fenway_Nation
I'm just waiting for the next big thing to be python meat.
Kill two birds with one stone- fill some sort of culinary niche while taking care of an invasive species problem.
utter fools...a lady was killed by her pet bear somewhere yesterday, Penn. I think...people are stupid...pet snake kills a baby, pet ape rips your face off, pet bear eats you for dinner
| 249 |
Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:52:56pm |
re: #242 albusteve
windmills are a waste of time...way too expensive
No kidding, Wind Farms are Subsidy Farms, they are a form of taxation, not "alternative energy."
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:56:02pm |
re: #236 Bagua
I'm not sure the taxpayers want to pay for unlimited studies for every bird, snail or toad that some-one has worries about. Study one and they will find another.
No, but you could certainly go bass-acwards and do studies on specific technologies. Do windmills affect the Atwater prairie chicken, the Bluetooth Snail Darter or the Least Dace of Rock and Roll? By taking whole *categories* out of the impacted species of certain *technologies*, you could streamline the system.
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Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:58:51pm |
re: #250 austin_blue
What we need is legislation limiting the Greenies ability to sue. Once it is approved by the EPA there is no ability to contest. It would save billions.
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 10:59:04pm |
re: #240 acwgusa
NIMBY's don't care if the research is done, or who does it. They don't want it, regardless.
Actually, in many cases, I think they do. Many NIMBYs are driven by fear of change, of the other. Some, of course, don't want to look at windmills. But those are generally *rich* NIMBYs, and they most definitely cross party lines.
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:01:07pm |
re: #249 Bagua
No kidding, Wind Farms are Subsidy Farms, they are a form of taxation, not "alternative energy."
Yeah, those fuel costs, waste disposal costs, and public health costs due to their emissions are Just Freakin' Brutal.
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jvic Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:01:31pm |
re: #190 austin_blue
Your dry land farming is more important than the folks who make their living in fisheries? Really? Guess it depends on whose ox is being gored.
This is the sort of trade-off that an advanced society should be able to approach rationally. By that I mean that a set of facts should be achievable about which reasonable people agree; reasonable people could disagree about the relative importance of those facts. I'll be pleasantly surprised if that is how the actual process works. (The foregoing was typed before the recent flurry of related posts.)
Sustainability is a two way street. Learn it, live it, it's the future.
I'd be more receptive to this kind of rhetoric if it were phrased in terms of rational engineering, resource allocation, and cost effectiveness. I'm suspicious that when some people--not you, AB--say 'sustainability', they really mean that technological progress needs to stop or regress.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:01:35pm |
re: #104 Killgore Trout
Ah, here's your problem...
UPDATED: 2009 Nobel Prize in Medicine (laureate was fired by W.)
The list of scientists that Bush tried to bury for political and dogmatic reasons is very long.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:01:56pm |
re: #252 austin_blue
I know for a fact that NIMBY's don't want dormant railway lines reactivated and will litigate tooth and nail to prevent this...even though the railway was there long before they were.
| 257 |
Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:02:24pm |
re: #247 acwgusa
Ewww! The image that popped into my head proves I need HELP, and FAST!
I am sure that is why they picked the title actually.
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:02:27pm |
re: #251 Bagua
What we need is legislation limiting the Greenies ability to sue. Once it is approved by the EPA there is no ability to contest. It would save billions.
It's often not Greenies. It is often rich Republicans. Sorry.
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Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:03:43pm |
re: #253 austin_blue
Yeah, those fuel costs, waste disposal costs, and public health costs due to their emissions are Just Freakin' Brutal.
Correct, all of those occur in the manufacturing and maintenance, at a cost far higher than other forms of electrical generation and a cost that outweighs their benefits.
| 260 |
albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:04:41pm |
the looming energy shortages are going to be massive...I'm pretty pessimistic...there is simply will not be enough at a reasonable price to stimulate economic growth, or support electric vehicles...we have trillions of tons of natural gas too...America is wasting maybe our most valuable resource, and that is our ability to innovate, find solutions and move ahead solving our problems...IOW we're fucked imo
| 261 |
Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:05:22pm |
re: #255 LudwigVanQuixote
The list of scientists that Bush tried to bury for political and dogmatic reasons is very long.
Didn't you get the memo? He's not President anymore.
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:05:24pm |
re: #255 LudwigVanQuixote
The list of scientists that Bush tried to bury for political and dogmatic reasons is very long.
Ludwig! My man! Glad you are here. Please join this rather lively discussion on Alt Energy with our fellow Lizards. I have *got* to get to the rack in the next fifteen minutes.
| 263 |
Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:06:30pm |
re: #262 austin_blue
Ludwig! My man! Glad you are here. Please join this rather lively discussion on Alt Energy with our fellow Lizards. I have *got* to get to the rack in the next fifteen minutes.
Working in shifts I see.
| 264 |
albusteve Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:07:03pm |
re: #253 austin_blue
Yeah, those fuel costs, waste disposal costs, and public health costs due to their emissions are Just Freakin' Brutal.
it's a subsidized proposition and would be for years...even Pickens gave up the idea...it may be cost effective locally at best...toss up a few propellers on the roof and hope the wind blows
| 265 |
Fenway_Nation Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:08:26pm |
re: #263 Bagua
Like the wolf and the shaggy sheepdog in those old Warner Bros. cartoons.
| 266 |
austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:08:31pm |
re: #256 Fenway_Nation
I know for a fact that NIMBY's don't want dormant railway lines reactivated and will litigate tooth and nail to prevent this...even though the railway was there long before they were.
Maybe where *you* are. Down here in Austin, we only wish that there were available RR ROWs on which to put heavy commuter rail. Our only viable option is to dig subways near the City Center. Hellishly expensive.
| 267 |
Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:09:14pm |
re: #261 Bagua
Didn't you get the memo? He's not President anymore.
Did you get the memo buddy? The GOP has been waging quite the war on science they don't like for some time and they are still at it.
| 268 |
Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:10:37pm |
re: #262 austin_blue
Ludwig! My man! Glad you are here. Please join this rather lively discussion on Alt Energy with our fellow Lizards. I have *got* to get to the rack in the next fifteen minutes.
Glad to be here!
As always, I say 4th gen fission as a primary source of energy followed by wind and solar to supplement.
The new battery technology from ANL makes both wind and solar vastly more practical - as well as electric cars.
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Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:11:14pm |
re: #267 LudwigVanQuixote
You're a big fan of the GOP, you don't have to remind me.
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:14:28pm |
re: #259 Bagua
Correct, all of those occur in the manufacturing and maintenance, at a cost far higher than other forms of electrical generation and a cost that outweighs their benefits.
No. The external cost of coal fired plants (slag, health costs) have *never* been figured into the kilowatt hour costs. Why should they? Slag has been stored semi-permanently on or near site (That's a practice that will soon come to an end. They have been kicking the can down the street, just as the fission plants have.) And your local electrical generator is not going to pay one asthma, lung cancer, CPOD, or lung cancer bill. Guess what?
You are, through higher premiums, higher taxes for Medicaid, and, eventually, through higher utility rates for disposing of slag and fly ash. Nice try, though.
| 271 |
Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:14:34pm |
re: #268 LudwigVanQuixote
Glad to be here!
As always, I say 4th gen fission as a primary source of energy followed by wind and solar to supplement.
The new battery technology from ANL makes both wind and solar vastly more practical - as well as electric cars.
I'll buy the fission part, and solar, mostly as an onsite supplement and for hot water. But Wind is a ways from being worth consideration, maybe in the future.
| 272 |
Vicious Michigan Union Thug Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:14:48pm |
Where's the seekrit Lizard code to look up users? I've been wondering whether a certain longtime poster has, er, passed to the other side.
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austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:16:21pm |
re: #268 LudwigVanQuixote
Glad to be here!
As always, I say 4th gen fission as a primary source of energy followed by wind and solar to supplement.
The new battery technology from ANL makes both wind and solar vastly more practical - as well as electric cars.
Yes!
| 274 |
Fenway_Nation Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:16:59pm |
re: #272 Alouette
Check below the comment box and 'post comments', there should be one a little tab marked 'show users'
/only recently aware of that myself.
| 276 |
Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:17:53pm |
re: #270 austin_blue
Coal has been getting cleaner and cleaner as things advance. I don't buy the propaganda. We need a frantic effort to build coal plants if our economy is to survive the coming decades.
| 277 |
Vicious Michigan Union Thug Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:19:52pm |
re: #274 Fenway_Nation
Check below the comment box and 'post comments', there should be one a little tab marked 'show users'
/only recently aware of that myself.
That shows users who are currently logged on. I meant the utility that you could use to look up individual users. I haven't seen a certain poster over the last couple of days and have been wondering about a "flounce."
| 278 |
austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:20:02pm |
re: #272 Alouette
Where's the seekrit Lizard code to look up users? I've been wondering whether a certain longtime poster has, er, passed to the other side.
Use the [!] function on a specific post and address a follow-on to Charles. If it's something you have discovered off-site, I would address it directly to Charles.
| 279 |
Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:20:49pm |
re: #271 Bagua
I'll buy the fission part, and solar, mostly as an onsite supplement and for hot water. But Wind is a ways from being worth consideration, maybe in the future.
Solar, because of the limitations of watts per meter will always be a supplemental power source. If you have good enough batteries and a small enough ration of people to roof area in building, it is possible to go completely off grid using solar power. However, it would, for obvious reasons never work for a large office building or apartment flat.
Wind still is a bit off, but not years and years off.
| 280 |
Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:22:49pm |
re: #279 LudwigVanQuixote
Solar, because of the limitations of watts per meter will always be a supplemental power source. If you have good enough batteries and a small enough ration of people to roof area in building, it is possible to go completely off grid using solar power. However, it would, for obvious reasons never work for a large office building or apartment flat.
Wind still is a bit off, but not years and years off.
Yes agreed on the solar, wind also, my point applies to the current technology.
| 281 |
austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:23:46pm |
re: #276 Bagua
Coal has been getting cleaner and cleaner as things advance. I don't buy the propaganda. We need a frantic effort to build coal plants if our economy is to survive the coming decades.
Sadly, no. Coal is the least viable option in the long term. For one thing, there is only 200 years of it left, at present consumption rates. Then what?
It spews mercury. It spews massively more NOx, SOx, particulates, and CO2 for KwH produced than natural gas.
| 282 |
Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:28:15pm |
re: #281 austin_blue
I'm not talking about the long term, I'm talking about the short term. They would fuel our economy and provide the money needed to make other advances. Even with a 200 year supply, it seems unlikely we would still need coal for even half that time.
| 283 |
austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:33:28pm |
re: #282 Bagua
I'm not talking about the long term, I'm talking about the short term. They would fuel our economy and provide the money needed to make other advances. Even with a 200 year supply, it seems unlikely we would still need coal for even half that time.
Ah, unfortunately, the external costs of coal make it prohibitively expensive for even the short term. Build nukes. Now.
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Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:35:09pm |
re: #283 austin_blue
Ah, unfortunately, the external costs of coal make it prohibitively expensive for even the short term. Build nukes. Now.
By "external" costs you mean the Greenie legal army, which is why I proposed legislation to thwart their evil machinations.
| 285 |
jvic Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:35:27pm |
re: #277 Alouette
That shows users who are currently logged on. I meant the utility that you could use to look up individual users. I haven't seen a certain poster over the last couple of days and have been wondering about a "flounce."
Presumably there is a better way, but the following works for me.
Click on the image beside your name. Then click on 'recent comments'. In the ensuing searcj page, replace 'user:alouette' with 'user:flouncer'. You will then get a list of Flouncer's recent comments. Click on one and then click on Flouncer's image. If Flouncer is...unavailable..., the ensuing pop-up will so indicate.
If I figured this out with my ardipithecus-grade software skills, I assume it isn't a pathway that Charles intends to block.
| 286 |
austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:37:45pm |
re: #284 Bagua
By "external" costs you mean the Greenie legal army, which is why I proposed legislation to thwart their evil machinations.
No. By external costs, I mean health care and slag/fly ash disposal, along with the coastal and agricultural impacts from increased temperatures and rainfall shifts.
| 288 |
Bagua Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:39:58pm |
re: #286 austin_blue
No. By external costs, I mean health care and slag/fly ash disposal, along with the coastal and agricultural impacts from increased temperatures and rainfall shifts.
I don't buy the propaganda. Coal is a good thing, it's a major resource in the US.
| 289 |
Sharmuta Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:41:43pm |
I'm sorry, Alouette- I mean that the person may or may not have been mentioned in a comment by Charles, so you could search his comments for a clue. Otherwise you can add /user/[nic] at the end of the dot com of littlegreenfootballs.
| 290 |
Surabaya Stew Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:46:24pm |
Hello all, just signing in here after a late Monday night. I'd like to repost my apology that I just put on the Ahmadinejad thread:
Contrary to the report in the Telegraph (which spread like wildfire through the right wing blogosphere — but not at LGF because it smelled funny to me) Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has no Jewish roots.
Hey there Charles and all Lizards, I'd like to apologize for being the one bringing up the story here a couple of days ago. I can offer no excuse for not thinking things through. Wanting Ahmadinejad to be deposed of (or any strong desire for that matter) should not prevent any one of us from spreading wrong information or taking up false hope, and I hope to never to that again on LGF.
| 291 |
austin_blue Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:52:50pm |
re: #288 Bagua
I don't buy the propaganda. Coal is a good thing, it's a major resource in the US.
So was tetraethyl lead, ethylene dibromide, PCBs, and asbestos. And they have all turned out to be disasters. Just because a loaded pistol is a useful tool in specific situations doesn't mean you should point it at your head and pull the trigger. And that is what coal-fired power stations are to the long-term health of the world. A gun to the head.
| 292 |
Bagua Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:40:05am |
re: #291 austin_blue
What is it with these simplistic "gun to the head" allegories? Everything's a gun to the head now. Poverty is also a huge killer of humans, and more proximate and real then these long term possible dooms. The future will be a lot worse if we experience an economic collapse getting there and are unable to feed millions, heat our homes, power our industry and so on.
| 293 |
Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:44:22am |
re: #292 Bagua
I posted a reply to you in the Rove thread downstairs.
You have an official challenge. I am really tired of the you are my buddy and then you insult me bit.
The new rules are that you attack a scientific claim I make with science of your own. If you think it is alarmist, then don't insult it, rather bring some science to prove it. Otherwise stop being a blowhard.
| 294 |
Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:45:45am |
re: #288 Bagua
I don't buy the propaganda. Coal is a good thing, it's a major resource in the US.
No actually it is a major source of carbon emissions and there is no evidence that so called clean technologies are making it clean enough.
How about you back your opinions with facts?
| 295 |
Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:47:51am |
re: #292 Bagua
What is it with these simplistic "gun to the head" allegories? Everything's a gun to the head now. Poverty is also a huge killer of humans, and more proximate and real then these long term possible dooms. The future will be a lot worse if we experience an economic collapse getting there and are unable to feed millions, heat our homes, power our industry and so on.
So then we need to come up with good economic strategies. However, that does not minimize the danger. Also there is more than simple poverty or the deaths of a few at stake. We are talking about the collapse of our entire civilization.
Again, that is a strong claim. If you think it is too shrill, where is your science to say otherwise? Just calling it shrill doesn't mean a thing if it is true.
| 296 |
Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:49:00am |
re: #281 austin_blue
Sadly, no. Coal is the least viable option in the long term. For one thing, there is only 200 years of it left, at present consumption rates. Then what?
It spews mercury. It spews massively more NOx, SOx, particulates, and CO2 for KwH produced than natural gas.
Absolutely the case.
Bagua, how do you refute this? Where are your links and data? Again just rendering your opinion on the statement means nothing.
| 297 |
Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:51:01am |
re: #284 Bagua
By "external" costs you mean the Greenie legal army, which is why I proposed legislation to thwart their evil machinations.
No, the emissions would be the real issue in terms of costs. How many Megawatts to we get from coal and how many gigatons of gas are released from burning it? Such a question is something you must answer before rendering an opinion. Austin is correct.
Now back your claims.
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Bagua Tue, Oct 6, 2009 3:13:55am |
re: #293 LudwigVanQuixote
re: #294 LudwigVanQuixote
re: #295 LudwigVanQuixote
re: #296 LudwigVanQuixote
re: #297 LudwigVanQuixote
Ludwig,
I wasn’t even chatting with you, and if you feel personally insulted when you’re not even in the discussion then you really need to relax a bit.
[…] I am really tired of the you are my buddy and then you insult me bit.
The new rules are […]
So I must conform to your rules to make a comment? Do I get a quiz too? We aren’t in your virtual classroom and we weren’t talking about AGW, we were talking about meeting the electricity needs over the next few decades.
Yes, I’m well aware that you want us to stop cold, I’m being realistic, I think we need to burn some of our abundant coal. We need to rebuild the economy and not go bankrupt. You seem to think the country is just going to shut down because you insist; it’s not going to happen.
I’m prepared to argue my side and see opposing views, what’s with all the indignation and histrionics?
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ryannon Tue, Oct 6, 2009 7:34:06am |
re: #149 BryanS
Would be pretty hard to swallow while the thing's still fizzing. Works on birds to make their stomaches go poof because they don't have saliva to know what will happen.
Kind of late to be showing up here, but is this as disgusting a practice as I think it is?
Torturing birds by blowing up their stomachs with Alka-Seltzer?
Naw, can't be.
Tell me I've misunderstood something.
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Best of April 2024 Nothing new here but these are a look back at the a few good images from the past month. Despite the weather, I was quite pleased with several of them. These were taken with older lenses (made from the ...
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