Groundhog Day in Iran

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Surprising only those who haven’t paid attention to Iran’s history for the last 30 years, Iranian authorities waited until the last day to formally request “changes” to the latest IAEA proposal.

Iran has formally asked for changes to an International Atomic Energy Agency proposal to ship nuclear fuel out of Iran for reprocessing abroad.

The response represents a setback in attempts by the international community to negotiate with Iran over its nuclear ambitions. Just last week, negotiators from the U.S., France and Russia left the table with Iranian counterparts in Vienna optimistic that they had hammered out a deal acceptable to all parties, including Iran.

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54 comments
1 Iron Mike  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 8:55:44am

I'm stunned, STUNNED I tell you!

2 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 8:56:04am

Deja vu all over again.

3 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 8:56:12am

There are no groundhogs in Iran.

/Dinnerjacket.

4 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 8:56:56am

There is only one event that I recall in the last 30 years that changed the Iranian policies in the least..
The Election of Ronald Reagan

5 gegenkritik  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 8:57:25am
The Obama administration is quietly laying the groundwork for long-range strategy that could be used to contain a nuclear-equipped Iran and deter its leaders from using atomic weapons.
U.S. officials insist they are not resigned to a nuclear Iran and are pressing negotiations to prevent it from joining the world's nuclear club. But at the same time, the administration has set in place the building blocks of policies to contend with an Iran armed with atomic weapons.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

6 bosforus  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 8:59:08am

re: #3 Ben Hur

There are no groundhogs in Iran.

/Dinnerjacket.

Must be their prairie dogs I'm smelling then.

7 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:00:28am

How do you spell mutual assured destruction in Farsi?

8 albusteve  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:02:33am

just a setback, no big deal...the IAEA will get a grip on this as soon as the cash gets cleaned...give it time

9 CommonCents  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:03:39am

What's next?

Headline Washington, DC - In what might be another failed attempt at appeasing the Shia terrorist government in Iran, the DNC has begun burning American flags in protest of their own party's policies in the White House, Senate, and House joined with chants of "Death to Ourselves!"

///

10 badger1970  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:03:55am

The West is so darned determined to get anything positive from the Iranian regime that it takes the latest dummies and call them positive knowing darn well that Iran would eventually renege.

The US is no longer taking the lead, nor has the will, to back Iran down.

11 albusteve  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:04:18am

re: #5 gegenkritik

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

yes, negotiations, building blocks, policies, quietly pressing etc

12 CommonCents  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:04:24am

re: #7 Rightwingconspirator

How do you spell mutual assured destruction in Farsi?

mutual assured destruction in Farsi?

You had it correct :)

13 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:04:46am

re: #5 gegenkritik

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

He's Barack Obama, he's here to save the day!

/channeling Jib-Jab

14 astronmr20  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:05:09am

The joke is on the fools at the IAEA.

15 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:05:14am

I keep seeing a 3 year old kicking and screaming "I want it I want it I want it" and an overly passive parent giving into demands. In the end, the parent can't seem to understand why it doesn't end well, and that the kid demands more.

16 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:05:41am

re: #7 Rightwingconspirator

How do you spell mutual assured destruction in Farsi?

F, u, c, k, y, o, u, d, i, n, n, e, r, j, a, c, k, e, t.

17 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:05:49am

What happens if the groundhog sees his shadow? Nuclear winter in Israel?

18 lurking faith  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:05:54am

It's like watching Lucy hold the football for Charlie Brown.

19 astronmr20  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:06:24am

re: #5 gegenkritik

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

How does one "contain" a country that would already have nukes?


I don't get it...

20 badger1970  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:06:42am

re: #7 Rightwingconspirator

How do you spell mutual assured destruction in Farsi?

Unfortunately, MAD only works when both sides have the means to pull the trigger. Iran doesn't appear to worry too much about the west.

21 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:06:43am

re: #16 Honorary Yooper

F, u, c, k, y, o, u, d, i, n, n, e, r, j, a, c, k, e, t.

We'll get Gov. Arnold to send them a letter.

22 Lateralis  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:06:44am

Israel will have to handle this situation.

23 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:06:50am

re: #18 lurking faith

It's like watching Lucy hold the football for Charlie Brown.

Good Grief.

24 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:07:10am

re: #16 Honorary Yooper

Nice. But you'd do better if you spell it out in acrostic in an official state letter. /Ahnold

25 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:07:12am

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

Good Grief.

You BLOCKHEAD!!!

26 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:07:39am

This is why I like "global Strike" the conventional weapon from a sub that can be anywhere in less than an hour. BHO-"Nuclear war must never be fought, can never be won".
GS is how its never fought.

27 astronmr20  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:07:40am

re: #7 Rightwingconspirator

How do you spell mutual assured destruction in Farsi?

MAD only works when both sides presumably DON'T want an apocalypse on their hands.

28 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:07:45am

re: #19 astronmr20

How does one "contain" a country that would already have nukes?

I don't get it...

A very large, very thick, reinforced concrete dome?

29 badger1970  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:08:46am

re: #26 Rightwingconspirator

Nuclear war is like using fire as an offensive weapon against the enemy, or at least until the wind changes direction.

30 albusteve  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:09:02am

re: #14 astronmr20

The joke is on the fools at the IAEA.

it's not a joke, it's a scam and someone is getting rich...I'd bet your right arm on it

31 astronmr20  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:09:12am

re: #22 Lateralis

Israel will have to handle this situation.

...and in the back of the minds of the "international community," they know this.

They know Israel will have to deal with the problem eventually, and they are perfectly fine with demonizing them when they have to do it.

It's pretty sick.

32 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:09:51am

Note too that this is merely meant to slow down Iran's nuclear ambitions. It will not stop them entirely. Iran will go along with a dog and pony show on some portion of its nuclear program so that its secret nuclear weapons program continues. While they announced the Qom facility, there are at least a dozen other suspected nuke sites working around the clock on producing sufficient nuclear materials for a bomb. All it takes is time; and every day that the negotiators allow Iran to weasel more time is just that - time that Iran has to spin the centrifuges to weapons grade enrichment.

33 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:11:02am

re: #25 Mad Al-Jaffee

You BLOCKHEAD!!!

I often feel like Charlie Brown. I do my best and I do things the right way, but it still isn't enough to make things go right.

34 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:11:05am

Another hudna in the deal making process, almost makes you miss the blixster. What's missing here are the details of what they are asking to change.

35 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:11:14am

re: #30 albusteve

it's not a joke, it's a scam and someone is getting rich...I'd bet your right arm on it

To paraphrase Fielding Mellish: "I object, your honor! The IAEA is a travesty. It's a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham."

36 albusteve  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:12:33am

the UN hates Israel...that's all anyone needs to know...you can extrapolate events from that fact...all this has been predicted numerous times right here at LGF...it's not even news in that regard

37 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:13:11am

re: #27 astronmr20

MAD only works when both sides presumably DON'T want an apocalypse on their hands.

Which, as we've seen, the Iranian mullahs are interested in. Nuclear weapons and the mullahs do not mix well. It's like mixing annhydrous ammonia and water.

38 jvic  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:15:28am

re: #5 gegenkritik

The Obama administration is quietly laying the groundwork for long-range strategy that could be used to contain a nuclear-equipped Iran and deter its leaders from using atomic weapons.
U.S. officials insist they are not resigned to a nuclear Iran and are pressing negotiations to prevent it from joining the world's nuclear club. But at the same time, the administration has set in place the building blocks of policies to contend with an Iran armed with atomic weapons.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

"long-range strategy" = "please don't nuke Israel until after the 2012 election".

But this isn't just on Obama. It's also on Mission Accomplished Bush.

Bring 'em on?

Here they are.

With little conviction, I can only hope that things are going on behind the scenes that we are not, and should not be, told of.

39 CommonCents  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:16:06am

re: #20 badger1970

Unfortunately, MAD only works when both sides have the means to pull the trigger. Iran doesn't appear to worry too much about the west.

Why should they? Our governments are so concerned over what others will think of them I doubt any of them would have the cajones to respond.

40 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:23:26am

And the centrifuges keep spinning...

41 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:23:32am

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

I often feel like Charlie Brown. I do my best and I do things the right way, but it still isn't enough to make things go right.

There's a little Charlie Brown in all of us.

42 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:23:49am

re: #41 Mad Al-Jaffee

Hope that doesn't sound dirty. :)

43 bosforus  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:23:59am

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

I often feel like Charlie Brown. I do my best and I do things the right way, but it still isn't enough to make things go right.

Homer: Kids, you tried your best, and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

44 dugmartsch  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:31:00am

re: #27 astronmr20

MAD only works when both sides presumably DON'T want an apocalypse on their hands.

Yeah it's tough to think of a powerful group in the US that believes an apocalypse has been nigh for the past 2000 years and more fervently believes they're coming out on the right side of it.

It's important to prevent Iran from acquiring the bomb, but let's not get self-righteous. Our crazy is deep, too.

45 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:32:13am

We let the enemy have a whole country as a sanctuary where he can build any weapon, raise any army, hatch any plot. We must be insane.

46 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:34:57am

re: #41 Mad Al-Jaffee

There's a little Charlie Brown in all of us.

I know. Charles M. Schultz created the character to be that way.

47 samsgran1948  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:36:30am

re: #15 MrSilverDragon

I keep seeing a 3 year old kicking and screaming "I want it I want it I want it" and an overly passive parent giving into demands. In the end, the parent can't seem to understand why it doesn't end well, and that the kid demands more.

I raised four kids. You quickly learn that if you don't nip this sort of crap in the bud, the rest of your life is going to be a nightmare. Just like overly permissive parents have created a generation of incredibly spoiled, self-centered and greedy adults, an overly permissive world is creating an Iran that has as its primary goal the Islamicizing of the entire world in order to obey the will of Allah as revealed by his prophet Mo in the Koran. What will Obama and his Chicago thugs do when A'jad and the mullahs inform them that several suitcase nuclear bombs have been given to the jihadis and will be used unless the entire United States instantly converts to Islam or declares itself a thrall of Islam and starts to pay the jizya?

48 astronmr20  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:36:57am

Well I'm glad they had fun.
Nuke inspectors had "good trip" to Iran site

49 StillAMarine  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:40:00am

re: #18 lurking faith

It's like watching Lucy hold the football for Charlie Brown.

You beat me to it. These schmucks who think their negotiations with the slimeballs that infest the Iranian thugocracy are going to get anywhere are deluding themselves worse than Charlie Brown does every Fall.

When will they ever learn, oh, when will they ever learn ...

50 Baier  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:44:08am

/Let's give them more time, that's what they need.

51 samsgran1948  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:45:26am

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

I know. Charles M. Schultz created the character to be that way.

I watched "It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown!" Tuesday night. It was the first time I'd watched it in years, and only because we'd finally broken down and bought -- on BIG sale! -- a flatscreen, high definition TV. (I forget how many inches. I don't care as long as long as I get a really good picture of Indy, Han, Jack Sparrow, Aragorn and the rest of the boys!) It might be forty years or so old, but it still came through like a champ. Charles Schultz did a magnificent job of catching the universality of mankind with the use of a handful of kids, a dog and a few little yellow birds.

52 brent  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:57:45am

What special kind of moron would walk away from those negotiations feeling optimistic? About what, precisely?

53 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 10:33:31am

Jeez, another setback. Shocking.

54 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 29, 2009 3:20:20pm

re: #4 HoosierHoops

There is only one event that I recall in the last 30 years that changed the Iranian policies in the least..
The Election of Ronald Reagan

Well, there was an event 50-odd years ago in which a CIA coup threw out a democratically elected (but too socialistic) president and replaced him with a Shah of our choice...then nothing changed much at all...until the Islamic Revolution.


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