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Anyone who has lost track of time when using a computer knows the propensity to dream, the urge to make dreams come true and the tendency to miss lunch.
— Tim Berners-Lee
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:24:38pm |
What? I just ate lunch. And it's only 4:23 PM here.
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suchislife Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:25:27pm |
I just looked up other quotes by this guy and I liked:
“They may call it a home page, but it's more like the gnome in somebody's front yard than the home itself.”
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:25:29pm |
I never loose track of time on my computer... I have Vista, it reminds me what time it is every half hour when it freezes
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:27:15pm |
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mich-again Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:27:58pm |
Anyone who has lost track of time when using a computer knows the propensity to dream, the urge to make dreams come true and the tendency to miss lunch.
Or maybe they are just slackasses.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:28:10pm |
Is Windows 7 really that much better? Seems to me microsoft has problems no matter what the put out...
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:29:38pm |
Your TSA at work keeping you safe.
Meet Mikey, 8: U.S. Has Him on Watch List
*snip*
"Meet Mikey Hicks,” said Najlah Feanny Hicks, introducing her 8-year-old son, a New Jersey Cub Scout and frequent traveler who has seldom boarded a plane without a hassle because he shares the name of a suspicious person. “It’s not a myth.”
Michael Winston Hicks’s mother initially sensed trouble when he was a baby and she could not get a seat for him on their flight to Florida at an airport kiosk; airline officials explained that his name “was on the list,” she recalled.
The first time he was patted down, at Newark Liberty International Airport, Mikey was 2. He cried.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:30:28pm |
Hey RWC you remember that question you asked me earlier? Answer : Breakfast?
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:31:28pm |
re: #7 Dragon_Lady
Is Windows 7 really that much better? Seems to me microsoft has problems no matter what the put out...
What gets me is when it just hijacks my rig every time it thinks it is time to download an update... it seems to know every time I am e-mailing a client.
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:31:59pm |
re: #1 wrenchwench
What? I just ate lunch. And it's only 4:23 PM here.
Beat you today- I ate lunch at 5:30pm. It's gonna be another late night.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:32:25pm |
re: #8 Bubblehead II
Your TSA at work keeping you safe.
Meet Mikey, 8: U.S. Has Him on Watch List
*snip*
"Meet Mikey Hicks,” said Najlah Feanny Hicks, introducing her 8-year-old son, a New Jersey Cub Scout and frequent traveler who has seldom boarded a plane without a hassle because he shares the name of a suspicious person. “It’s not a myth.”
Michael Winston Hicks’s mother initially sensed trouble when he was a baby and she could not get a seat for him on their flight to Florida at an airport kiosk; airline officials explained that his name “was on the list,” she recalled.
The first time he was patted down, at Newark Liberty International Airport, Mikey was 2. He cried.
That poor kid! The airport officials should be ashamed of themselves scaring a little baby like that! How offensive can you get?
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abolitionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:32:26pm |
"I used to think light was fast." --Chuck Moore
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:33:31pm |
If we're goinna move to a new thread I'm gonna repost my brag about politicians behaving well...
Good government reform takes a strong executive who supports state employees who succeed in fiscally sound and service oriented government. I know I work for the guy but this quote from Governor Perdue's final State of the State address made me feel warm all over:
“We have already faced tough decisions with respect to our team of state employees. We have trimmed payrolls and asked employees to do the job that two or even three of their co-workers used to perform. We have asked teachers, caseworkers, law enforcement personnel and agency heads to do more with less. And their commitment to go the extra mile deserves recognition.
So, I want to take a moment to speak directly to my fellow state employees:
Wherever you serve, I want to recognize and thank all of you for putting in the extra effort and the extra hours to meet this challenge. Responsibility and workloads have increased and you have met the call with excellence … That doesn’t go without notice. I notice your good work. Your bosses notice it. Your fellow Georgians notice it. Thank you!
Now I want to brag on our talented state team a little bit. The men and women who make up our team have refused to make excuses and they have found a way to deliver great customer service in the face of cuts. That’s why, as I travel across Georgia, citizens continue to thank me for the services you deliver.In fact, we’ve asked our customers, and they have given you a customer satisfaction rate above 76 percent*. That beats most private businesses and makes us one of the only states that compares favorably with the private sector. State employees will tell you their job satisfaction – which has increased 10 percent in the last two years – comes from helping Georgians.
High employee morale means a satisfied customer and a satisfied employee. I want to continue improving to make Georgia an “employer of choice” that can attract and retain top talent going forward."
(*note this compares to Wal Mart at 74% and Nordstroms at 80% on a comparable measure.)
I also want to point out that this was a success of the bureaucrats supported by their executive not a legislative program or mandate.
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:33:52pm |
re: #7 Dragon_Lady
Okay, we run XP home and Pro. Been very reliable. Vista was easily the worst disaster since Windows ME and that was the worst since Dos 4.0, which chased all us fledgling computer "experts" back to doc 3.33 I quote experts because while I run a network for 15 years, I never had training. Everything I learned was when something quit.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:34:22pm |
"It's the worst I've ever seen," the Salvation Army's director of disaster services in Haiti, Bob Poff, told CNN. "It's so much devastation in a concentrated area. It's going to take days, or weeks, to dig out."
The network's medical correspondent, Sanjay Gupta, gave the bleakest assessment: "What I have seen here in Haiti, I have never seen before. While I hate to say this, it seems somewhat hopeless."
Emergency experts said finding survivors under the rubble was a race against time – that the vast majority would perish within three days. In which case that race will soon be lost.
UN peacekeepers seemed overwhelmed by the scenes of Armageddon. "We just don't know what to do," a Chilean peacekeeper told Reuters. "You can see how terrible the damage is. We have not been able to get into all the areas."
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:34:28pm |
re: #10 brookly red
What gets me is when it just hijacks my rig every time it thinks it is time to download an update... it seems to know every time I am e-mailing a client.
Oooh suckey suckey!
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:35:38pm |
re: #12 Dragon_Lady
That poor kid! The airport officials should be ashamed of themselves scaring a little baby like that! How offensive can you get?
I think a better question would be is, how much more F*ing stupid could you get?
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:35:52pm |
re: #12 Dragon_Lady
That poor kid! The airport officials should be ashamed of themselves scaring a little baby like that! How offensive can you get?
It does suck to be that kid, it also sucks to live in a world where people use children as weapons... what to do, what to do?
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Bob Dillon Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:36:01pm |
Back in the old days (mid 60s) when Video Display Terminals (about the size of two large refrigerators) were launched by IBM -some genius wrote a program for them that featured a tank and a spaceship that two people could maneuver and shoot at each other on the screen. The system had to burn in at the customers location for 500 hours before billing could commence. It was amazing how fast 500 hours could go when we booted the game up and just left it running after installation of the main 360 system.
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:36:30pm |
re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Oh bay... when the Salvation Army's director of disaster services says it feels somewhat hopeless that is really really bad. That is a good reminder to keep praying for the Haitians.
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:38:02pm |
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:39:10pm |
re: #19 brookly red
It does suck to be that kid, it also sucks to live in a world where people use children as weapons... what to do, what to do?
As much as I hate to say it, maybe the Mother should consider changing the little guys name legally so as to spare him the life time of harassment. Not a perfect solution, but better that than to have a life time of defending his name every time he fly's.
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Henchman Ghazi-808 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:39:20pm |
Bachmann: The Right's Cynthia McKinney!
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:39:29pm |
re: #15 Rightwingconspirator
Okay, we run XP home and Pro. Been very reliable. Vista was easily the worst disaster since Windows ME and that was the worst since Dos 4.0, which chased all us fledgling computer "experts" back to doc 3.33 I quote experts because while I run a network for 15 years, I never had training. Everything I learned was when something quit.
So windows new advertising campaign should be "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger...Microsoft!"
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:39:34pm |
re: #19 brookly red
Surely they had more of a description than just the name, like age or height ot ethnicity...
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:40:58pm |
re: #27 Rightwingconspirator
Surely they had more of a description than just the name, like age or height ot ethnicity...
That make too much sense and you know they'll never admit that a two year old could possibly be a different person than whats on their list.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:41:30pm |
re: #27 Rightwingconspirator
Surely they had more of a description than just the name, like age or height ot ethnicity...
well to be fair they are checking the parent & not the baby... diapers full of PETN can ruin your day.
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:42:06pm |
re: #26 brookly red
Of course the Macs are great if you can afford double the cash or more.
Well I did discover the one free accessory that comes with every Mac.
SKU# THE ATITUDE
:)
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freetoken Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:42:56pm |
Uh oh...
Arctic permafrost leaking methane at record levels, figures show
Scientists have recorded a massive spike in the amount of a powerful greenhouse gas seeping from Arctic permafrost, in a discovery that highlights the risks of a dangerous climate tipping point.
Experts say methane emissions from the Arctic have risen by almost one-third in just five years, and that sharply rising temperatures are to blame.
(The paper is here:
Wetlands are the largest individual source of methane (CH4), but the magnitude and distribution of this source are poorly understood on continental scales. We isolated the wetland and rice paddy contributions to spaceborne CH4 measurements over 2003–2005 using satellite observations of gravity anomalies, a proxy for water-table depth , and surface temperature analyses TS. We find that tropical and higher-latitude CH4 variations are largely described by and TS variations, respectively. Our work suggests that tropical wetlands contribute 52 to 58% of global emissions, with the remainder coming from the extra-tropics, 2% of which is from Arctic latitudes. We estimate a 7% rise in wetland CH4 emissions over 2003–2007, due to warming of mid-latitude and Arctic wetland regions, which we find is consistent with recent changes in atmospheric CH4.
Double uh-oh:
Much of the early methane rise can be attributed to the spreading of northern peatlands
The surprising increase in methane concentrations millennia ago, identified in continental glacier studies, has puzzled researchers for a long time. According to a strong theory, this would have resulted from the commencement of rice cultivation in East Asia. However, a study conducted at the University of Helsinki's Department of Environmental Sciences and the Department of Geosciences and Geography shows that the massive expanse of the northern peatlands occurred around 5000 years ago, coincident with rising atmospheric methane levels.
After water vapour and carbon dioxide, methane is the most significant greenhouse gas, resulting in about one fifth of atmospheric warming caused by humans. Methane emissions are mainly created by peatlands, animal husbandry, rice cultivation, landfill sites, fossil fuel production and biomass combustion.
Northern peatlands are immense sources of methane, but previous studies have argued them to have been established almost immediately after the Ice Age ended. Consequently, they could not explain the increase of methane, dated to have commenced thousands of years later, since the methane emissions of peatlands decrease as they age.
William Ruddiman, Professor Emeritus in environmental sciences at the University of Virginia, has presented a widely published theory according to which humanity started to affect the climate thousands of years ago, not just since the start of the industrial revolution. According to the theory, rice cultivation, commenced in East Asia already over 5,000 years ago, caused the declining methane amounts to again increase, which contributed to preventing the next ice age. [...]
Hmmm... so the double whammy is this. First, during melting in the Arctic region much more methane will be released. Then, as the warmer lands of the north turn into more active wetlands, they will then release more methane (from the the decay of the new vegetation.)
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:43:36pm |
re: #30 Rightwingconspirator
Of course the Macs are great if you can afford double the cash or more.
Well I did discover the one free accessory that comes with every Mac.
SKU# THE ATITUDE:)
I can't afford it now... but someday some I shall be free of windows.
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:43:44pm |
re: #22 wrenchwench
Does this explain your late lunch?
Yup. I'm working that unpaid 3rd job now. I am a newbie in government and a corporate refugee but over the last three years my respect for government employees has risen tremendously. (Conversely I haven't gained much love for partisan legislators). I'm still a conservative at heart and love to see us do more with less.
One of the most touching things is how all of our state employees have taken furloughs (undpaid leave) in order to allow colleagues to keep their jobs and continue services uninterrupted if possible. The budget mess is so bad now I fear we face more cuts in Fiscal Year 2011 and you can only cut so much before services have to be shut down. Thank goodness we have a head start on more efficient government.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:44:17pm |
Tourist killed by 'dinosaur-sized' shark off South African beach
Skinner, 37, a Zimbabwean who lived in the Democratic Republic of Congo, was standing chest-deep 100 metres from the shore and adjusting his goggles when the shark struck. It was seen approaching him twice before he disappeared in a flurry of thrashing. Cape Town's disaster management services had issued a warning hours earlier that sharks had been spotted in the water, but the shark flag was not flying.
Witnesses described the terrifying scene. The shark was "longer than a minibus", Coppen told the Cape Times newspaper.
He said: "It was this giant shadow heading to something colourful. Then it sort of came out the water and took this colourful lump and went off with it. You could see its whole jaw wrap around the thing which turned out to be a person."
British visitor Phyllis McCartain told the same paper: "We saw the shark come back twice. It had the man's body in its mouth, and his arm was in the air. Then the sea was full of blood."
Kyle Johnston said: "We were swimming only about 15 metres away from the guy. We were at about chest depth and he was a little deeper. We looked at the walkway and saw people waving towels at us, then we looked further out to sea and saw what looked like blood, and a man's leg come up."
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:45:17pm |
re: #26 brookly red
So windows new advertising campaign should be "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger...Microsoft!"
or... No more waiting two years for built in obsolescence!
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:45:37pm |
re: #29 brookly red
well to be fair they are checking the parent & not the baby... diapers full of PETN can ruin your day.
Diapers full of anything can ruin your day but that's not the point! The person on the list is obviously and adult and to torment a poor little kid just because of his name being the same as a scum-ball terrorist doesn't justify plain stupidity in TSA's part! What has happened to common sense in this country? Has it all gone down the drain?
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:46:34pm |
re: #29 brookly red
Sorry there was mention of a pat down of a two year old? Look, bras became an issue after a Chechen airliner attack. Bra bomb. Now we have Fruit of The Booms. But lets face it, drug smugglers do body cavity carries. The terrorists will soon do the same, negating the machine, the pat downs, the sniffer machine.
I used to fly a lot. I am in favor of a sensible application of search. But no policy works without a brain involved.
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:46:52pm |
re: #29 brookly red
Well if you read the story, he is now 8. His first pat down was 6 years ago at the age of two. Long before the PETN in the undies or shoes for that matter was thought up.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:47:28pm |
re: #37 Rightwingconspirator
Sorry there was mention of a pat down of a two year old? Look, bras became an issue after a Chechen airliner attack. Bra bomb. Now we have Fruit of The Booms. But lets face it, drug smugglers do body cavity carries. The terrorists will soon do the same, negating the machine, the pat downs, the sniffer machine.
I used to fly a lot. I am in favor of a sensible application of search. But no policy works without a brain involved.
Dogs, I like dogs...
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:48:16pm |
re: #38 Bubblehead II
I could be wrong about the shoe. If so, my apologies.
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:48:20pm |
re: #31 freetoken
LVQ was worried about exactly this. It blows away the worst case scenarios and substitutes something far worse. You might get this to him when you see him posting.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:49:19pm |
re: #32 brookly red
I can't afford it now... but someday some I shall be free of windows.
Since mid-December, when a rogue anti-spyware hit really tore up my XP machine, we've been running Ubuntu on the desk and half the laptop. (Other half is Vista, just in case. Once my kid rigged a way to let me play Civ4, windows became unimportant.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:50:21pm |
re: #38 Bubblehead II
Well if you read the story, he is now 8. His first pat down was 6 years ago at the age of two. Long before the PETN in the undies or shoes for that matter was thought up.
True, sorry for the high horse attitude! I just get worked up over poor little kids having to deal with this type of thing when all they have to do is look at him and realize that they have the wrong person.
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:50:34pm |
re: #38 Bubblehead II
So in 6 years they could not figure out this person is not the person on the list. Not sounding like they are up to a serious challenge at all.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:51:10pm |
re: #38 Bubblehead II
Well if you read the story, he is now 8. His first pat down was 6 years ago at the age of two. Long before the PETN in the undies or shoes for that matter was thought up.
did read the story days ago, think it sucks, but people have been using children as weapons for much longer that this current conflict.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:51:14pm |
re: #44 Rightwingconspirator
So in 6 years they could not figure out this person is not the person on the list. Not sounding like they are up to a serious challenge at all.
Surprise, surprise, surprise!
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:51:17pm |
re: #32 brookly red
I can't afford it now... but someday some I shall be free of windows.
How will you see outside!?!?!?
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:51:32pm |
re: #39 brookly red
Me too. A sniffer with a brain. Then of course we have the dog handler, who is a close partner. Two brains!
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:51:32pm |
re: #39 brookly red
Dogs, I like dogs...
How are dogs going to tell if someone is smuggling harmful substances internally? They will use any excuse to stick their nose in someone's buttcrack. /
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:51:33pm |
re: #27 Rightwingconspirator
Surely they had more of a description than just the name, like age or height ot ethnicity...
'Not a toddler' would be sufficient.
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:52:06pm |
re: #45 brookly red
did read the story days ago, think it sucks, but people have been using children as weapons for much longer that this current conflict.
Just ask any divorce lawyer. /
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:52:50pm |
re: #49 DaddyG
How are dogs going to tell if someone is smuggling harmful substances internally? They will use any excuse to stick their nose in someone's buttcrack. /
Not something I'd like to go through!
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:53:02pm |
re: #45 brookly red
did read the story days ago, think it sucks, but people have been using children as weapons for much longer that this current conflict.
But the child himself wouldn't be the flagged person on the list.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:53:51pm |
re: #48 Rightwingconspirator
Me too. A sniffer with a brain. Then of course we have the dog handler, who is a close partner. Two brains!
I love sniffer dogs.
I love dogs just in general.
Yay dogs.
I love my Middle Eastern heritage, but how did we ever get it so wrong about dogs?
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:54:43pm |
re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist
I love sniffer dogs.
I love dogs just in general.
Yay dogs.
I love my Middle Eastern heritage, but how did we ever get it so wrong about dogs?
among other things...
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:54:46pm |
re: #49 DaddyG
How are dogs going to tell if someone is smuggling harmful substances internally? They will use any excuse to stick their nose in someone's buttcrack. /
That's apparently the dog version of "Hey, how ya doin'?"
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:54:54pm |
re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist
I love sniffer dogs.
I love dogs just in general.
Yay dogs.
I love my Middle Eastern heritage, but how did we ever get it so wrong about dogs?
They cook up kind of tough and stringy. /
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:55:06pm |
re: #45 brookly red
did read the story days ago, think it sucks, but people have been using children as weapons for much longer that this current conflict.
Nothing happens to a TSA agent who shakes down a kid. What would happen to the agent who lets some fanatical idiot sacrifice his family to get an airliner?
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:56:10pm |
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:56:16pm |
re: #50 SanFranciscoZionist
Exactly thank you.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:56:51pm |
re: #58 DaddyG
They cook up kind of tough and stringy. /
Yeah but the Koreans love them! Well there's no accounting for taste since the also love fermented cabbage. Blegh!
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Randall Gross Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:56:59pm |
The health care bill appears to be collapsing day by day.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:57:40pm |
re: #56 SanFranciscoZionist
That's apparently the dog version of "Hey, how ya doin'?"
it's their facenook :)
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:57:48pm |
re: #62 YoungLibertarian92
Haha! Dinner and you are funny!
Thank you. Thank you.
I'm playing the lounge all week.
(I'd really better get back to work or it will be a seriously late night)...
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YoungLibertarian92 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:57:51pm |
re: #65 Thanos
It became a goody bag for the health insurance industry about a month ago.
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jhrhv Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:58:10pm |
Hi probably a stupid question. I'm planning on donating $180 to Haitian relief efforts via the Red Cross.
I'm just wondering before I do it. Haiti isn't an America, Canada, Israel, Jew hating nation is it? I don't believe they have been for at least awhile but want to know if my beliefs are wrong before donating.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:58:41pm |
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YoungLibertarian92 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:59:00pm |
re: #69 jhrhv
It isn't but it has a long history of corrupt military dictatorships.
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:59:15pm |
re: #65 Thanos
The health care bill appears to be collapsing day by day.
We should have a government panel decide if the cost of life support vs. the odds of its survivial is justified in the case of this patient. /just don't call it a death panel.
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:59:23pm |
re: #63 brookly red
I'll take a 6 pack of Natural Ice
The ones brewed by Amheuser-Busch just so there isn't any confusion here
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:59:49pm |
re: #69 jhrhv
Hi probably a stupid question. I'm planning on donating $180 to Haitian relief efforts via the Red Cross.
I'm just wondering before I do it. Haiti isn't an America, Canada, Israel, Jew hating nation is it? I don't believe they have been for at least awhile but want to know if my beliefs are wrong before donating.
Haiti is too poor to have the luxury of hating anyone else.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 3:59:55pm |
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YoungLibertarian92 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:00:29pm |
re: #74 reine.de.tout
You're never to poor to hate, look at Joe the Plumber!
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:00:35pm |
re: #65 Thanos
The health care bill appears to be collapsing day by day.
As much as I need health insurance the thought of some bureaucrat sitting in Washington telling me that i can or can't have the treatment scares the living daylights out of me! Shudder, shudder!
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:00:52pm |
re: #69 jhrhv
Hi probably a stupid question. I'm planning on donating $180 to Haitian relief efforts via the Red Cross.
I'm just wondering before I do it. Haiti isn't an America, Canada, Israel, Jew hating nation is it? I don't believe they have been for at least awhile but want to know if my beliefs are wrong before donating.
They have pretty good relations with the US historically. They aren't fans of the French who enslaved them then demanded reparations when they revolted and freed themselves. I don't know their position on Israel but if they have a cause it would be survivial even before the disaster.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:01:34pm |
re: #77 Dragon_Lady
As much as I need health insurance the thought of some bureaucrat sitting in Washington telling me that i can or can't have the treatment scares the living daylights out of me! Shudder, shudder!
It's much nicer to be turned down by an insurance clerk in Atlanta.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:02:04pm |
re: #65 Thanos
The health care bill appears to be collapsing day by day.
They're now trying to garner support from the unions by exempting from the 'cadillac tax'
My question is, seeing that they were going to fund it by taxing those of us with "cadillac' coverage, does that mean that those of us with those policies but not in unions will now pay a HIGHER tax, seeing that there will be less people to tax!?!?
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Kragar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:02:06pm |
Man, been reading more on that shark attack. All they found left were the guys swimming goggles and blood in the water. The rescue teams are saying its probable that there wasn't anything left to find and that it ate all of him. That just creeps the shit out of me.
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:03:35pm |
re: #82 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
On the one hand that is creepy but I can think of worse ways to die than "he never saw it coming" and "it was probably over before he knew what hit him"...
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:04:22pm |
re: #8 Bubblehead II
Your TSA at work keeping you safe.
Meet Mikey, 8: U.S. Has Him on Watch List
*snip*
"Meet Mikey Hicks,” said Najlah Feanny Hicks, introducing her 8-year-old son, a New Jersey Cub Scout and frequent traveler who has seldom boarded a plane without a hassle because he shares the name of a suspicious person. “It’s not a myth.”
Michael Winston Hicks’s mother initially sensed trouble when he was a baby and she could not get a seat for him on their flight to Florida at an airport kiosk; airline officials explained that his name “was on the list,” she recalled.
The first time he was patted down, at Newark Liberty International Airport, Mikey was 2. He cried.
When babies go bad. It's a terrible thing...
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Randall Gross Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:05:00pm |
re: #81 sattv4u2
They're now trying to garner support from the unions by exempting from the 'cadillac tax'
My question is, seeing that they were going to fund it by taxing those of us with "cadillac' coverage, does that mean that those of us with those policies but not in unions will now pay a HIGHER tax, seeing that there will be less people to tax!?!?
I think that could be challenged. Who knows. It's kinda sad because there are several things broken about Health care in the US, but they each need a separate bill. This "cluster" bill is crushing itself with its own weight.
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:05:21pm |
re: #84 marjoriemoon
When babies go bad. It's a terrible thing...
You change many diapers? WMD charges are not out of line. /
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:06:00pm |
re: #80 Decatur Deb
It's much nicer to be turned down by an insurance clerk in Atlanta.
Actually my best friend who works for blue cross told me that the have a panel of professionals who make their decisions. Professional whats I don't know but at least there are more that one little clerk having the power to say yea or nay. Thats a little more comforting to me. Very little admittedly.
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:06:55pm |
re: #85 Thanos
I think that could be challenged. Who knows. It's kinda sad because there are several things broken about Health care in the US, but they each need a separate bill. This "cluster" bill is crushing itself with its own weight.
The good news is we've designed a silver bullet that will solve all of your problems. The bad news is you will need to melt down your entire treasury for three generations to build it.
| 89 |
Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:07:12pm |
re: #83 DaddyG
On the one hand that is creepy but I can think of worse ways to die than "he never saw it coming" and "it was probably over before he knew what hit him"...
I'm glad I'm not planning to go swimming at the beach anytime soon...
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:07:30pm |
re: #77 Dragon_Lady
Ah, Government insurance, pen pushers in DC determining treatment...........
or go private......... where the only difference is that the pen pushers determining treatment levels are in Delaware where the stock holder dividends are paid............
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:07:38pm |
re: #87 Dragon_Lady
Actually my best friend who works for blue cross told me that the have a panel of professionals who make their decisions. Professional whats I don't know but at least there are more that one little clerk having the power to say yea or nay. Thats a little more comforting to me. Very little admittedly.
That's just a punch at your "Washington bureaucrat". I'm sure you'll at least get a Death Panel.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:07:54pm |
re: #83 DaddyG
On the one hand that is creepy but I can think of worse ways to die than "he never saw it coming" and "it was probably over before he knew what hit him"...
No, reports say he got hit once, and it backed off, then right after he got back to the surface and tried to make for shore, it hit him again and took him down for good.
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jhrhv Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:08:06pm |
Thanks for the responses. Just wanted to check with a few people that I wasn't doing one of those no good deed shall go unpunished kind of things.
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:08:06pm |
re: #81 sattv4u2
if yer not in a Union, but can afford the "Caddilac" policy, yer probably doing alright anyways.
I'm kinda sad that they're folding to the unions on it tho', those policies are massively wasteful and increase the cost of healthcare a fair deal.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:08:41pm |
re: #91 Decatur Deb
That's just a punch at your "Washington bureaucrat". I'm sure you'll at least get a Death Panel.
You are so comforting to me in my old age...//
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:09:05pm |
re: #93 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
ouch! ok its officially creepy with no redeeming qualities.
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Randall Gross Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:09:24pm |
re: #95 windsagio
if yer not in a Union, but can afford the "Caddilac" policy, yer probably doing alright anyways.
I'm kinda sad that they're folding to the unions on it tho', those policies are massively wasteful and increase the cost of healthcare a fair deal.
Yeah, the advertisement of "not writing the bill by playing to special interests" isn't ringing too true right now.
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Stanghazi Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:09:53pm |
re: #82 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Man, been reading more on that shark attack. All they found left were the guys swimming goggles and blood in the water. The rescue teams are saying its probable that there wasn't anything left to find and that it ate all of him. That just creeps the shit out of me.
How bout the tweet by one of the witnesses - ugh!
"Holy shit. We just saw a gigantic shark eat what looked like a person in front of our house," witness Gregg Coppen posted on Twitter. "That shark was huge. Like dinosaur huge."
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:10:35pm |
re: #94 jhrhv
Thanks for the responses. Just wanted to check with a few people that I wasn't doing one of those no good deed shall go unpunished kind of things.
Just make sure it goes to a legitimate established charity. Red Cross, Doctors w/o borders, a trusted Church charity, etc. The Haitian government has a history of funneling funds into their own pockets at the peril of their people.
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:11:16pm |
re: #82 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Might be a descendent of this guy. Then again, just because we haven't found a live one, doesn't mean they are not still out there.
Seriously, how many ocean species have we found to still be around after we thought they were extinct?
// Nessie doesn't count as we haven't caught it yet.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:11:24pm |
re: #95 windsagio
if yer not in a Union, but can afford the "Caddilac" policy, yer probably doing alright anyways.
I'm kinda sad that they're folding to the unions on it tho', those policies are massively wasteful and increase the cost of healthcare a fair deal.
But my question still stands
Lets say they figured on funding it by collecting 5% fee from everyone that has a Caddy policy. Now they exempt people in Unions that have that coverage. Whats the percentage of people that have Caddys and are Union?
5%
10% . 50%
??Whatever the number is, the rest of us will have to kick in the shortfall. That could mean that instead of paying a 5% fee i'm now up to what ,, 20% ,,, 25% ,,, 50%
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:11:27pm |
re: #85 Thanos
Hmm, I wonder if the 'seperate bill' method would work or not. I see a problem with the fact that each individual piece would be just as hard a struggle as this has been, and yeah...
Maybe they just wanna get it all over with at once ;)
/of course this big one was supposed to lead to some kind of gov't run or single-payer plan, which is probably why its so much of a mess now.
re: #98 Thanos
I think of that as Obama getting bitch-slapped by reality. I mean he's relatively pragmatic and such, but as we all know he didn't have much experience, and I don't think he had any idea how much influence the lobbies actually had.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:11:53pm |
re: #99 Stanley Sea
Aparently there were a bunch of other swimmers around who didn't know why people on shore were yelling and waving at them. Friends of his were literally with a few yards of him when he got hit.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:12:08pm |
re: #102 sattv4u2
That could mean that instead of paying a 5% fee i'm now up to what ,, 20% ,,, 25% ,,, 50%
Hyperbole.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:12:21pm |
re: #97 DaddyG
ouch! ok its officially creepy with no redeeming qualities.
I've seen the show on TV about Carcaradon Megaladon and they give me nightmares every time! Those were supposed to be as big as a greyhound bus! Talk about creepy!
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:13:02pm |
re: #102 sattv4u2
oh sorry. I agree its a big question and I don't know the answer.
How about an further income taxes on people making over... lest be generous and say 500k a year.
Or a national sales tax :)
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:13:07pm |
re: #103 windsagio
Hmm, I wonder if the 'seperate bill' method would work or not
I think it would. it would identify "A" probelm and fix it
For instance ,,,, 25 million people with no health ins? Fine ,, fix THAT
The way they are doing it now is like
"I have a flat tire, so I'm going to go buy a new fleet of cars!"
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freetoken Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:13:50pm |
There are a couple of more *really big* "uh-oh"s wrt AGW... maybe I'll save them for one of tonight's threads. The headline news will be swamped with the annual and decadal reports from NCDC and GISS really soon... so expect AGW to be more in the news (though I suspect that Haiti will continue, understandably, to dominate the news cycle.)
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torrentprime Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:14:03pm |
re: #87 Dragon_Lady
Actually my best friend who works for blue cross told me that the have a panel of professionals who make their decisions. Professional whats I don't know but at least there are more that one little clerk having the power to say yea or nay. Thats a little more comforting to me. Very little admittedly.
What "one little clerk"? The one that Rush, Beck, et al invented out of whole cloth to scare you (mission accomplished)? And I am sure the most professional of actuaries and accountants decide on your health care in private insurers.
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:14:32pm |
re: #94 jhrhv
I donated using the 90999 (Red Cross, only 2 allowed) and the 20222 (William J Clinton Foundation, 3 allowed) txt method. Both are legit.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:14:45pm |
re: #105 wozzablog
Hyperbole.
Meaning!?!?!
(can't remember which, but) Either the House version or Senate version is funding this by taxing people with Caddilac policies. If they exempt union members, all other people with Caddy ins will have to pony up more, no !?!
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:14:58pm |
re: #108 sattv4u2
At risk of pissing people off, I kinda suspect people like the 'bunch of separate bills' idea because it would almost certainly weaken the final result.
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:15:04pm |
For me the deciding factor between government run health care and government regulated privately run health care (what we sort of have now) is that as long as we have portability rules I can fire an insurance carrier that doesn't treat me well and find another provider. With a government entitlement program there is no incentive for them to treat me well in order to keep my business.
Granted that doesn't guarantee my care will be paid for in either case, but everybody getting every treatment they desire regardless of cost or odds of improving quality of life is not viable in any system. Sooner or later there will be a "death panel" or a "you can't have voluntary surgery to suck fat out of your thigh panel" no matter who runs the show.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:15:27pm |
re: #110 torrentprime
What "one little clerk"? The one that Rush, Beck, et al invented out of whole cloth to scare you (mission accomplished)? And I am sure the most professional of actuaries and accountants decide on your health care in private insurers.
Oh I'm sure you're right about that. What a tangled web we weave.....
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:15:28pm |
re: #85 Thanos
I think that could be challenged. Who knows. It's kinda sad because there are several things broken about Health care in the US, but they each need a separate bill. This "cluster" bill is crushing itself with its own weight.
YES.
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:16:00pm |
re: #101 Bubblehead II
Might be a descendent of this guy. Then again, just because we haven't found a live one, doesn't mean they are not still out there.
Seriously, how many ocean species have we found to still be around after we thought they were extinct?
// Nessie doesn't count as we haven't caught it yet.
PIMF! Link now included
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:16:25pm |
re: #108 sattv4u2
A subsidised public option would have done that. But, some Democrat senators thought more about their campaign contributions than their constituents.
It's unfortunate - but the obstinacy of certain senators/representatives has lead to a "throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks" policy - so they can cobble together maximum coverage under a variety of means to pacify those whose "concience" determined there should be no public option.
It has, after all, been in all the papers..................
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:16:49pm |
re: #114 DaddyG
the use of 'entitlement program' is kinda telling in that paragraph :p
More to the point, most of us can't fire our insurance carrier anyways, if we get insurance through work.
...
And also - for saying there will be a death panel 'eventually'
| 121 |
Jolo5309 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:17:12pm |
re: #15 Rightwingconspirator
I run Vista Business, and have since it came out. No issues with stability. The only 2 problems I had were a) Railroad Tycoon would crash b) I had to get a new mouse because the wireless mouse I bought in 1999 didn't have drivers.
Neither of these are MS fault.
BTW, remember XP before SP2? Buggy piece of garbage...
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torrentprime Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:18:12pm |
re: #114 DaddyG
For me the deciding factor between government run health care and government regulated privately run health care (what we sort of have now) is that as long as we have portability rules I can fire an insurance carrier that doesn't treat me well and find another provider. With a government entitlement program there is no incentive for them to treat me well in order to keep my business.
Granted that doesn't guarantee my care will be paid for in either case, but everybody getting every treatment they desire regardless of cost or odds of improving quality of life is not viable in any system. Sooner or later there will be a "death panel" or a "you can't have voluntary surgery to suck fat out of your thigh panel" no matter who runs the show.
Valid concern (except for the death panel poo, but that's Palin's fault, not yours). Would it help you at all to know that nothing in HCR this year would ban or even slow down private insurers from existing and doing business? That all a public option does is offer you something like Medicare, etc but if you don't want it/can afford otherwise you can still go private?
| 123 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:18:16pm |
The sentencing of 11 suspects to be hanged for the bloody car bombings that ravaged Iraq's foreign and finance ministries last August appears to be a clear signal that the government is reacting firmly against terrorism, less than two months before parliamentary elections are due to be held.
Close to 100 people were killed and more than 500 more were wounded in the bombings.
SNIP
| 124 |
Ojoe Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:18:29pm |
I have nothing but contempt for the political, financial and cultural elite of this country.
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Randall Gross Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:18:32pm |
re: #103 windsagio
I don't think individual bills tackling key problems would have had this problem. There are several things buried in the bowels of this bill that make emminent good sense to both parties, and that could pass without even much debate.
Transporting Insurance between states? Only Lieberman would vote against that, and maybe not even him. (his state has all the insurance co's because they have "amiable laws" on insurance ...)
Large nationwide pool plans (like "all part time restaurant workers") would be fought by assholes like Dick Berman, but even he couldn't stop that.
| 126 |
Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:18:46pm |
re: #117 Bubblehead II
PIMF! Link now included
According to everything I've seen and read the great white is a direct descendant of Megaladon, just smaller. Their teeth even match for shape and usage. Nightmare with fins what ever the size!
| 127 |
windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:18:58pm |
re: #120 wozzablog
hell, he's getting off easy. I heard it was gonna be 130% for me!
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:18:59pm |
re: #87 Dragon_Lady
Actually my best friend who works for blue cross told me that the have a panel of professionals who make their decisions. Professional whats I don't know but at least there are more that one little clerk having the power to say yea or nay. Thats a little more comforting to me. Very little admittedly.
I believe they have medical trained staff looking at these things.
My experience with this has been that it simply makes it harder for my doctor to get approval for the procedure he prescribes for me. I don't know how these review panels "save" any money, it seems to me it's just an added layer of bureaucracy within the insurance company.
| 129 |
Kragar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:21:11pm |
re: #124 Ojoe
I have nothing but contempt for the political, financial and cultural elite of this country.
Oh come on. I'm sure you have a little room for disgust and frustration as well.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:21:26pm |
re: #128 reine.de.tout
I believe they have medical trained staff looking at these things.
Except if they had ever taken the hypocratic oath they would not delete people from rolls when cure became less cost effective than litigation.
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:21:42pm |
re: #125 Thanos
I have to disagree with the 'both parties' bit.
A vast majority of the Republicans will vote against anything the dems propose, no matter what it is.
If they weren't doing that we wouldn't have to spend so much time and money pandering to the corrupt blue dog/Lieberman types.
I guess my point is: In a more healthy (or perhaps sane) political environment, you'd probably be right... But given the extant politics right now, the situation would be the same no matter what.
| 132 |
Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:21:56pm |
re: #38 Bubblehead II
This is from TSA's "mythbuster" websight:
No 8-year-old is on a TSA watch list. Airlines can and should automatically de-select any 8-year-olds out there that appear to be on a watch list. Whether you're eight or 80, the most common occurrence is name confusion and individuals are told they are on the no fly list when in fact, they are not. If you get a boarding pass, you’re not on the no fly list.
The no fly list is reserved for individuals that pose a known threat to aviation. The list is an important tool in our multi-layered approach to aviation security and is used daily to keep individuals that pose a threat to aviation off airplanes.
They might as well not waste their breath. People will believe what they want to. But unless I see this confirmed by some independent news source I am a bit more familiar with, I'm gonna disbelieve. I fly a lot and have never seen any kids patted down, ever. In fact, they sometimes don't even let the kids go through the xray machine. A 2 year old? I'm supposed to believe that cause she says so? Show me. Take along a videocam. These days everybody has one. No pics with you cell phone even? How often does her kid fly anyway? Damn, I have grown waaaay to cynical.
| 133 |
sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:22:29pm |
re: #120 wozzablog
50%?
Really?.
Can you tell me for certainty it's not? Thats why i asked, is it going to be 5%, 10%,,, 50%
What will it be if the unions have to kick in,, what will it have to be if they are exempt!?!?!
NOBODY knows
| 134 |
Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:23:15pm |
Lizard Quiz! In the mail today I got a unsolicited invite for a free copy of a magazine. On the front on the envelop was a list of the following subjects:
How the CIA subverts the U.S. government.
Christian singles dating questionnaire.
America's emerging caste system.
How Wall Street stands to profit from AIDS.
Stalking the campus thought police.
The myth of missing children.
How the Pentagon hides $22 billion.
The feminist case for pornography.
Robert Stone takes a crack at cocaine.
Name the magazine. (The prize is an up-ding!)
| 135 |
Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:24:14pm |
re: #128 reine.de.tout
Now you know why I can't get insurance unless its with a company group plan. There isn't an insurance company out there that would touch me with a ten foot barge pole. I have way too many pre-existing conditions to ever be accepted by a private health care company. My old age is going to be interesting to be sure...
| 136 |
Randall Gross Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:24:22pm |
re: #131 windsagio
You can argue all you like but there are some sensible Republicans in office, with the dem majority these things could pass.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:24:53pm |
re: #134 oaktree
Lizard Quiz! In the mail today I got a unsolicited invite for a free copy of a magazine. On the front on the envelop was a list of the following subjects:
How the CIA subverts the U.S. government.
Christian singles dating questionnaire.
America's emerging caste system.
How Wall Street stands to profit from AIDS.
Stalking the campus thought police.
The myth of missing children.
How the Pentagon hides $22 billion.
The feminist case for pornography.
Robert Stone takes a crack at cocaine.Name the magazine. (The prize is an up-ding!)
Harpers
| 138 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:24:56pm |
“I don’t know what I will do now. My future seems uncertain,” Karki told IRIN in the main Maoist army cantonment in Sindhuli, nearly 150km southeast of Kathmandu, after being discharged from the UN-monitored camp.
Marking a milestone in Nepal’s shaky peace process, around 200 former Maoist child soldiers from the People's Liberation Army (PLA), the Maoists' military wing, were discharged on 7 January after spending the last three years in the camp.
They are the first of around 3,000 young disqualified Maoist ex-combatants, a third of whom are female, to be released by mid-February from seven Maoist cantonments across the country.
The Maoists reportedly recruited thousands of children during their decade-long conflict with the Nepalese state.
SNIP
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:25:09pm |
re: #123 MandyManners
Thank Allah! No sarcasm intended. This is good news.
| 140 |
Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:25:57pm |
Kragar in three comments!
Inside information, or was something is particular the give-away?
| 141 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:26:07pm |
re: #126 Dragon_Lady
Well as a ex-sailor, I have no compunction in seeing these things eradicated.
But that is just a personnel opinion. I don't like to think of myself (or anyone else) as food for a lower order life forms.
// Now what do we do about the worms???
| 142 |
Kragar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:26:39pm |
re: #140 oaktree
Kragar in three comments!
Inside information, or was something is particular the give-away?
I'm just that damn good.
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:26:51pm |
re: #134 oaktree
Lizard Quiz! In the mail today I got a unsolicited invite for a free copy of a magazine. On the front on the envelop was a list of the following subjects:
How the CIA subverts the U.S. government.
Christian singles dating questionnaire.
America's emerging caste system.
How Wall Street stands to profit from AIDS.
Stalking the campus thought police.
The myth of missing children.
How the Pentagon hides $22 billion.
The feminist case for pornography.
Robert Stone takes a crack at cocaine.Name the magazine. (The prize is an up-ding!)
Whatever it is, it should be ashamed of itself.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:27:56pm |
BBL, gotta go walk the cat before she shreds my leg.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:28:34pm |
re: #133 sattv4u2
*Nobody knows* for certain that Rush doesn't wear womens knickers..........
Grabbing figures out of thin air because nobody can disprove you is not going to make me any more likely to listen to your argument. The figure is likely to be more than 5% - yes, but grabbing figures that seem purdy and scary at the same time doesn't help discourse.
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:29:10pm |
re: #136 Thanos
read the second part of what I said.
Theres a portion of the dem party that is so deeply in the pockets of the insurance industry, that they're making every step they can to nuke this reform. The main step of the nearly unanimous republican opposition is that we need unanimous democratic support, plus that Joker Lieberman. Thus Lieberman (who I'm harping on because he's ground zero of the 'owned by insurance companies' faction) and the blue dogs can gain absolutely crazy concessions that hurt the bill, because they know the Dem leadership needs their votes to break a filibuster.
So don't get me wrong. I don't like how the Republicans are acting, but the real villians here are the Blue Dogs and Joementum.
| 147 |
Kragar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:29:17pm |
Here is a different lizard quiz.
Name the only U.S. Congressman to die in the line of duty.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:29:23pm |
re: #134 oaktree
Lizard Quiz! In the mail today I got a unsolicited invite for a free copy of a magazine. On the front on the envelop was a list of the following subjects:
How the CIA subverts the U.S. government.
Christian singles dating questionnaire.
America's emerging caste system.
How Wall Street stands to profit from AIDS.
Stalking the campus thought police.
The myth of missing children.
How the Pentagon hides $22 billion.
The feminist case for pornography.
Robert Stone takes a crack at cocaine.Name the magazine. (The prize is an up-ding!)
Is it connected to Ron Paul?
| 149 |
Randall Gross Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:29:26pm |
re: #143 Escaped Hillbilly
Harpers I bet
| 150 |
Neutral President Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:30:30pm |
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:30:57pm |
re: #147 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Here is a different lizard quiz.
Name the only U.S. Congressman to die in the line of duty.
The guy that flew to Jonestown--oh, wait, you said "name"...
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:31:10pm |
re: #145 wozzablog
*Nobody knows* for certain that Rush doesn't wear womens knickers...
snip blockquote>
An admissions nurse in Hawaii know. She filled out the Shorts form.
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:31:57pm |
re: #144 Dragon_Lady
And pray tell how do you walk a cat?
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Randall Gross Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:32:05pm |
re: #146 windsagio
read the second part of what I said.
Theres a portion of the dem party that is so deeply in the pockets of the insurance industry, that they're making every step they can to nuke this reform. The main step of the nearly unanimous republican opposition is that we need unanimous democratic support, plus that Joker Lieberman. Thus Lieberman (who I'm harping on because he's ground zero of the 'owned by insurance companies' faction) and the blue dogs can gain absolutely crazy concessions that hurt the bill, because they know the Dem leadership needs their votes to break a filibuster.
So don't get me wrong. I don't like how the Republicans are acting, but the real villians here are the Blue Dogs and Joementum.
I agree that there are villians, but... if it doesn't pass it's the Dems who could not get it done. Contrast to the "free drugs for seniors" bill that the R's sailed through, even with stiff Conservative opposition. Sometimes just one thing can skinny through.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:32:10pm |
re: #147 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Here is a different lizard quiz.
Name the only U.S. Congressman to die in the line of duty.
Leo Ryan?
| 157 |
What, me worry? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:32:13pm |
re: #143 Escaped Hillbilly
Whatever it is, it should be ashamed of itself.
Maybe they think "the myth of missing children" is a rouse for the conglomerate Milk companies to push more milk cartons?
Or do they show missing children on milk anymore?
| 158 |
What, me worry? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:32:27pm |
| 159 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:32:32pm |
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Kragar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:32:43pm |
re: #154 Bubblehead II
And pray tell how do you walk a cat?
Thru the delivery of a swift kick in its posterior
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:33:00pm |
re: #152 Decatur Deb
I can always count on you :-)
Except when was the last time *anyone* took a medical form from Hawai at facevalue?.
I demand to see the longform version................
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Kragar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:33:12pm |
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:33:13pm |
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:33:43pm |
re: #161 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Thru the delivery of a swift kick in its posterior
Ooooo bad Kragar. Bad!!
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:34:16pm |
re: #154 Bubblehead II
And pray tell how do you walk a cat?
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:34:20pm |
re: #119 windsagio
If the government establishes it - that means it is an entitlement. That wasn't a perjorative use of the term. And my use of "death panel" applies to private or public option. Sooner or later someone will have to make those decisions be it a government or private panel of experts and care providers.
Please read my comments carefully and don't assume I'm bashing government (I'm a state employee for crying out loud). You read too much into my comments. I just think there is more power in economic choice. In fact if the government was less involved in heath care right now I suspect there would be more choices for employers and consumers alike. Government isn't a panacea. Government employees have to do more with fewer resources than private companies can provide. Health care is one fo the things that governments do worse than many functions and the best doctors and clinicians do not flock to government jobs and pay. That's the cold hard reality of the situation. No legislative mandate will fix that easily and the unintended consequences could be devastating.
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:34:23pm |
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:34:34pm |
re: #155 Thanos
thats because the democrats in congress are goddamn useless :p I probably hate them as much as you do...
Its also why I hope the Republican wins in MA. Having this illusiary (damn I just can't spell that right today) supermajority is actually just hurting most of my causes in the long run.
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Bob Dillon Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:34:37pm |
re: #128 reine.de.tout
I believe they have medical trained staff looking at these things.
My experience with this has been that it simply makes it harder for my doctor to get approval for the procedure he prescribes for me. I don't know how these review panels "save" any money, it seems to me it's just an added layer of bureaucracy within the insurance company.
BC and others have been sued (and lost) more than once on these issues. Delaying tactics, requests for more documentation, etc. The longer a claim is delayed the more $ the insurance entity makes on the interest in their account.
Trying to weasel out of expensive procedures was another. You are right reine.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:35:16pm |
re: #154 Bubblehead II
And pray tell how do you walk a cat?
At my house, you take the dog out for a walk.
The cats follow.
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:35:51pm |
re: #167 DaddyG
heh, sorry I hate that phrase with a hot boiling passion.
It makes me a little irrational ;)
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:36:10pm |
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Kragar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:36:17pm |
Leo Ryan (D-CA) was killed at the Port Kaituma airport by members of the People's Temple, becoming the incident which led Jim Jones to order his followers to commit mass suicide.
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:36:20pm |
re: #122 torrentprime
As long as their isn't a poison pill for the private policies the first time they need to update their rates or change benefits I'm ok with the government providing supplemental suppport for the uninsured. I'm not so ok with the either or direction this seems to be taking.
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:36:52pm |
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:37:08pm |
re: #175 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Leo Ryan (D-CA) was killed at the Port Kaituma airport by members of the People's Temple, becoming the incident which led Jim Jones to order his followers to commit mass suicide.
He would've killed them all anyway.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:37:13pm |
And now, I'm off to the store and then home.
Be seeing you.
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Randall Gross Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:37:13pm |
re: #169 windsagio
thats because the democrats in congress are goddamn useless :p I probably hate them as much as you do...
Its also why I hope the Republican wins in MA. Having this illusiary (damn I just can't spell that right today) supermajority is actually just hurting most of my causes in the long run.
I'm ok with that as long as it's not an R that just got flung out from the Wingularity -- background on Brown is pretty sketchy at this point, but I'm seeing some support flow to him from the usual suspects on the fringe.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:37:37pm |
re: #177 Escaped Hillbilly
Pick it up, stroke it, go for a walk.
Is that what you kids are calling it nowadays?
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Kragar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:37:55pm |
re: #178 MandyManners
He would've killed them all anyway.
True, he was leading up to it, but this incident was the excuse he used.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:37:56pm |
re: #166 wrenchwench
You don't walk cats. They walk you. (keeping the staff properly exercised.)
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:38:11pm |
re: #175 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Leo Ryan (D-CA) was killed at the Port Kaituma airport by members of the People's Temple, becoming the incident which led Jim Jones to order his followers to commit mass suicide.
OMG I remember that. What an awful time that was.
Of course, this is where "drink the kool-aid" came from and is forever added to pop culture.
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:38:25pm |
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:38:33pm |
re: #145 wozzablog
*Nobody knows* for certain that Rush doesn't wear womens knickers...
Grabbing figures out of thin air because nobody can disprove you is not going to make me any more likely to listen to your argument. The figure is likely to be more than 5% - yes, but grabbing figures that seem purdy and scary at the same time doesn't help discourse.
Yet here you just 'grabbed a figure"
Point being, as it was from the very start,,, NOBODY knows
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:39:16pm |
re: #178 MandyManners
He would've killed them all anyway.
True. But it is pretty well documented that this incident was the proximal cause that triggered the order at that particular moment in history.
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:39:38pm |
re: #182 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
You beat me to it.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:39:49pm |
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:40:00pm |
re: #184 marjoriemoon
OMG I remember that. What an awful time that was.
Of course, this is where "drink the kool-aid" came from and is forever added to pop culture.
Even though it wasn't really Kool Aid, so I heard. I just hope it wasn't that packet drink mix from my childhood, Funny Face.
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:40:03pm |
re: #186 sattv4u2
thats not rational thinking... or maybe its not good faith.
"Nobody knows, so I'm gonna pick a ludicrously inflated figure."
Dirty pool, imo.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:41:01pm |
re: #191 windsagio
thats not rational thinking... or maybe its not good faith.
"Nobody knows, so I'm gonna pick a ludicrously inflated figure."
Dirty pool, imo.
I stated an entire range of figures, starting at 5%
And still ,,, NOBODY does know
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:41:16pm |
I was right all along...the debate is over
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:41:39pm |
re: #157 marjoriemoon
Maybe they think "the myth of missing children" is a rouse for the conglomerate Milk companies to push more milk cartons?
Or do they show missing children on milk anymore?
Who is their reporter, the Cool Aid Man?
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:42:02pm |
re: #147 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Edward Baker was still a sitting Senator when killed on 10/21/1861 at Ball's Bluff.
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:42:15pm |
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RadicalModerate Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:42:24pm |
Didn't see this in yesterday's thread regarding Beck/Palin, but it appears that the Idiotarian has been caught doing a little bit of quote-mining, and completely misrepresenting Thomas Jefferson.
Andrew Sullivan on Beck's "Question with boldness" statement
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:42:46pm |
re: #194 albusteve
I was right all along...the debate is over
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
and what I ask you is a can? if not just a wee keg...
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:42:53pm |
re: #154 Bubblehead II
And pray tell how do you walk a cat?
I have a joke that involves a sharp stick but I have to go home to my own cats so I'd better not say it.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:43:13pm |
re: #197 wrenchwench
What a cute dog! Looks like she's being hunted.
LOL!
Dog is a he.
But the cats follow him everywhere.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:43:27pm |
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:43:35pm |
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:43:59pm |
re: #157 marjoriemoon
Maybe they think "the myth of missing children" is a rouse for the conglomerate Milk companies to push more milk cartons?
Or do they show missing children on milk anymore?
Funny- dark- I like that kind of humor.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:44:01pm |
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:44:10pm |
re: #186 sattv4u2
Conflating me claiming a possible rise at the margin to your multiple of 10 is at minimum false equivalence.
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:44:42pm |
re: #194 albusteve
The biggest misconception about canned beer is that the aluminum can imparts a metallic taste
It's cause they're putting their mouths on the outside of the can. If they really hate it, they should pour it into a glass. We Coke drinkers have the same issue. My mom won't drink out of a can unless we're on a long trip or something.
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:45:25pm |
re: #193 sattv4u2
You ended with an unreasonably high number, and treated it as an a reasonable high end figure.
While you're right nobody knows, there are reasonable ranges.
You're still using hyperoble.
Also what wozza said, 'false equivalence'
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Stanghazi Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:45:36pm |
re: #198 RadicalModerate
Didn't see this in yesterday's thread regarding Beck/Palin, but it appears that the Idiotarian has been caught doing a little bit of quote-mining, and completely misrepresenting Thomas Jefferson.
Andrew Sullivan on Beck's "Question with boldness" statement
For those who won't click:
You see that "Question with boldness" Jefferson quote at the beginning of the Beck/Palin video? Here's Jefferson's full remark:"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear."
That's right. In a video in which he claims that God founded America, Glenn Beck references a quote in which our most important Founding Father stood tall and proud for agnosticism, and against the politics of fear.
Awesome.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:46:41pm |
re: #199 brookly red
and what I ask you is a can? if not just a wee keg...
But what is the can coated with, ethylmethyldeath?
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:46:48pm |
re: #207 Escaped Hillbilly
It's cause they're putting their mouths on the outside of the can. If they really hate it, they should pour it into a glass. We Coke drinkers have the same issue. My mom won't drink out of a can unless we're on a long trip or something.
I'd drink beer out of a dog bowl if that's the case...it's all relative
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:46:56pm |
re: #203 marjoriemoon
There's some big pusses! Your pup looks like mine heh
No, the dog is small (chihuahua/terrier mix)
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:47:21pm |
re: #207 Escaped Hillbilly
I actually much prefer the plastic bottles you can get now to cans. I can't put a finger on exactly what it is, but I often suspect its the plastic lining they use... Altho' I admit I also like being able to close the damn things.
re: #210 Decatur Deb
ha beat me to my point >>
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:47:34pm |
re: #210 Decatur Deb
But what is the can coated with, ethylmethyldeath?
now that will give you a buzz...
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:47:43pm |
re: #173 windsagio
heh, sorry I hate that phrase with a hot boiling passion.
It makes me a little irrational ;)
Fair enough. I wasn't impressed by the use of "death panel" for political purposes. The people making decisions to continue or discontinue life saving measures have a hard task. I really can't envision them being cold and callous about the dicision for financial reasons alone. Accountants on the other hand.../
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:48:40pm |
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:48:42pm |
re: #211 albusteve
And I have drank Diet Coke from a nasty plastic canteen that had been sitting in the sun to be honest.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:48:49pm |
re: #211 albusteve
I'd drink beer out of a dog bowl if that's the case...it's all relative
sniff, sniff, my poor old pit bull used to have her own bowl down at the local bar....
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:48:59pm |
re: #216 Bubblehead II
hahahha thats brilliant.
That one is wrong tho, you need 'harness' style leashes for cats, or... well... well that happens :)
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:49:32pm |
ok kids.
am heading to bed. docs in the morning followed by a days shopping. grrrr.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:49:36pm |
for any historical fiction buffs....I'm just starting the Big Final Battle from Bernard Cornwell's newest book, 'Agincourt'....if you like long bows. broadswoards, blood and guts, this is another good one from him
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:50:06pm |
re: #206 wozzablog
Conflating me claiming a possible rise at the margin to your multiple of 10 is at minimum false equivalence.
I don't know what you're attempting to prove here. That you have me in a "GOTCHYA" because I posted a QUESTION of what the tax could be,,,,, 5%, 10%, 20%, 50%????
Do you know for certainty what it WILL be? You stated above 5%. How much above?
AND thats been the entire point. NOBODY knows, ESPECIALLY if they exempt union members
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:50:07pm |
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:50:12pm |
re: #216 Bubblehead II
Cats generally don't tolerate leads well. I'm assuming Dragon Lady trained hers from a kitten, or it was trained from a kitten.
I had a very bad incident with a cat on leash. I vowed never to speak of it again.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:50:22pm |
re: #221 wozzablog
ok kids.
am heading to bed. docs in the morning followed by a days shopping. grrr.
You OK?
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:50:34pm |
re: #219 brookly red
sniff, sniff, my poor old pit bull used to have her own bowl down at the local bar...
poor old pitbull!
DRINK!
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:50:44pm |
re: #217 Decatur Deb (and various others)
I dunno if taste-tests would support it, but I definitely can tell a difference in the taste of bottled vs. canned. Spefiically for me, canned soft drinks are extremely acidic, and bottled less so.
I never learned to like any kind of beer, so I can't really speak to that :p
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:51:19pm |
Looked up Harper's Magazine on wikipedia since the list of subjects from the solicitation struck me as being a bit odd. Very old magazine with a lot of history. Looks like their editors have dipped into Bizarro World a few times too often in the recent past.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:52:25pm |
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:53:04pm |
re: #229 windsagio
I dunno if taste-tests would support it, but I definitely can tell a difference in the taste of bottled vs. canned. Spefiically for me, canned soft drinks are extremely acidic, and bottled less so.
I never learned to like any kind of beer, so I can't really speak to that :p
/GASP!
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:53:32pm |
re: #229 windsagio
I dunno if taste-tests would support it, but I definitely can tell a difference in the taste of bottled vs. canned. Spefiically for me, canned soft drinks are extremely acidic, and bottled less so.
I never learned to like any kind of beer, so I can't really speak to that :p
so we finally know what the hell is wrong with you...it's never too late you know
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:53:51pm |
re: #231 sattv4u2
Oh c'mon!
There is a vanishingly small possibility that your rates might be hiked 50%. Its simply exceptionally unlikely. You're using rhetorical scare tactics, and need to debate in good faith.
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:53:54pm |
re: #229 windsagio
I dunno if taste-tests would support it, but I definitely can tell a difference in the taste of bottled vs. canned. Spefiically for me, canned soft drinks are extremely acidic, and bottled less so.
I never learned to like any kind of beer, so I can't really speak to that :p
Mr. Moon brews his own. Midwest Brewing Supplies on the net. It is THE BEST brew in the county and I don't drink, but I'll drink this. Nectar of the goddess!
It's not very difficult but takes a little time. It's cheaper than buying a good beer, makes excellent gifts (everyone asks for some). Oh, and a start up kit's about $150-200.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:54:55pm |
re: #224 sattv4u2
I don't know what you're attempting to prove here. That you have me in a "GOTCHYA" because I posted a QUESTION of what the tax could be,,, 5%, 10%, 20%, 50%???
Do you know for certainty what it WILL be? You stated above 5%. How much above?
AND thats been the entire point. NOBODY knows, ESPECIALLY if they exempt union members
it will be as much as what ever is left over from the other taxes, OK? done deal move on.
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:55:03pm |
re: #233 albusteve
so we finally know what the hell is wrong with you...it's never too late you know
For me giving up Guiness Extra Stout was the second most difficult part of becoming a Mormon.
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:55:14pm |
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:55:32pm |
re: #226 marjoriemoon
We tried it ONCE. She (adult) went ballistic. Had to use welders gloves to untangle her as she was biting anything that came within range. Never again.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:55:44pm |
re: #227 reine.de.tout
thanks for asking hun, nothing too serious. Just need a repeat prescription.
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:55:50pm |
re: #230 oaktree
Looked up Harper's Magazine on wikipedia since the list of subjects from the solicitation struck me as being a bit odd. Very old magazine with a lot of history. Looks like their editors have dipped into Bizarro World a few times too often in the recent past.
I thought they were pretty well respected at one time. Harper's BAZAAR? hehe But I don't think I ever read it.
Maybe those headlines have nothing to do with what the topics are? Now I'm intrigued.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:56:25pm |
re: #237 DaddyG
For me giving up Guiness Extra Stout was the second most difficult part of becoming a Mormon.
It is dark and strong.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:56:51pm |
re: #240 wozzablog
With a flat £6.50 co-pay for a months worth of antibiotics.......................
vive la NHS
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:57:19pm |
re: #237 DaddyG
For me giving up Guiness Extra Stout was the second most difficult part of becoming a Mormon.
I'm pretty sure God is a beer swilling Cowboy fan
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:57:26pm |
re: #237 DaddyG
For me giving up Guiness Extra Stout was the second most difficult part of becoming a Mormon.
wow, now THAT is true faith.
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:57:31pm |
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:57:52pm |
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Randall Gross Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:58:03pm |
There's a few pics of my dogs in this video, and you wanted to hear Emerson, Lake and Palmer anyway...
[Link: www.motionbox.com...]
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:58:07pm |
re: #234 windsagio
Oh c'mon!
There is a vanishingly small possibility that your rates might be hiked 50%. Its simply exceptionally unlikely. You're using rhetorical scare tactics, and need to debate in good faith.
For Fucks Sake
Do you really think I beleive it will be 50%!?!?!
Read the posts!
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
From now on i'll remember that you and Wozz need LITERAL posts!
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:58:11pm |
re: #244 albusteve
I'm pretty sure God is a beer swilling Cowboy fan
Nother reason I'm not lookin to meet him (soon, I mean.)
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:58:24pm |
re: #244 albusteve
I'm pretty sure God is a beer swilling Cowboy fan
oh yeah, then why did he put them in Texas?
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:59:38pm |
re: #239 Bubblehead II
We tried it ONCE. She (adult) went ballistic. Had to use welders gloves to untangle her as she was biting anything that came within range. Never again.
lol I also tried bathing a cat in the shower. I have flashbacks just thinking of it.
Now, I had another kitty who loved the shower. He'd sit on the drain crying for me to turn on the water. Go figger.
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:59:47pm |
re: #244 albusteve
I'm pretty sure God is a beer swilling Cowboy fan
If He can hold his own more power to Him. In His wisdom God has led me to a faith that includes practices that will preserve me from my own weaknesses. ;-)
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 4:59:51pm |
re: #249 sattv4u2
to quote myself:
You're using rhetorical scare tactics, and need to debate in good faith.
Its not that you believe it, its that you're presenting it as a scare tactic. let your ideas stand on their own.
I mean, hell! Now you're basically admitting it was hyperbole, which is how this whole debate started! (Wozza said it was you dissagreed)
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:00:03pm |
re: #250 Escaped Hillbilly
Nother reason I'm not lookin to meet him (soon, I mean.)
just don't pass on during football season, you should be okay....unless you're an Eagles fan, in which case you're in deep trouble anyway
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:00:21pm |
re: #244 albusteve
I'm pretty sure God is a beer swilling Cowboy fan
Better to be a Steelers fan in Hell than serve in your Heaven.
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:00:26pm |
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:01:22pm |
re: #249 sattv4u2
From now on i'll remember that you and Wozz need LITERAL posts!
If you really want to drive someone crazy take their literal statements figuratively and their figurative statements literaly. I learned that from my Boy Scout troop.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:01:28pm |
re: #254 windsagio
to quote myself:
Its not that you believe it, its that you're presenting it as a scare tactic. let your ideas stand on their own.I mean, hell! Now you're basically admitting it was hyperbole, which is how this whole debate started! (Wozza said it was you dissagreed)
Yet he never mentioned that in the same post i used 5, 20, 25 percent. Does that mena he thinks it COULD be that high!?!?
AGAIN ,, READ !!!!!
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:01:41pm |
re: #249 sattv4u2
I don't believe that you believe it as it happens - i just take exception to throwing in figures like that which just aren't at all helpful given theres so much willfully misinformed crap going around on an emotive issue like healthcare reform.
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:02:00pm |
re: #257 marjoriemoon
looks like it. Like I said I didn't read too closely.
Freakin' 160 years old. I'd start getting a little crazy after that long too ;)
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:03:05pm |
re: #256 Decatur Deb
Better to be a Steelers fan in Hell than serve in your Heaven.
I still have a score to settle with the Squeelers....
them 2
us 1
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:03:23pm |
Really goota scoot,,
long drive home ,,,, short time AT home before I have to come back to work tomorrow
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:03:31pm |
re: #261 windsagio
looks like it. Like I said I didn't read too closely.
Freakin' 160 years old. I'd start getting a little crazy after that long too ;)
lol for real. It was a women's fashion mag, I remember that.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:03:32pm |
re: #260 wozzablog
I don't believe that you believe it as it happens - i just take exception to throwing in figures like that which just aren't at all helpful given theres so much willfully misinformed crap going around on an emotive issue like healthcare reform.
well perhaps if we could actually see the freakin bill we wouldn't be misinformed now would we?
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:04:29pm |
re: #252 marjoriemoon
Now, I had another kitty who loved the shower. He'd sit on the drain crying for me to turn on the water. Go figger.
Ours would sit still for a shower. Try to put her in a tub of water, look out. Think it has to do with a shower being more "natural" IE rain fall, vs being dumped into a pond. One was "acceptable" the other intolerable.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:04:45pm |
re: #265 brookly red
well perhaps if we could actually see the freakin bill we wouldn't be misinformed now would we?
the debate will be broadcast on C-Span....check it out then
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:04:47pm |
re: #265 brookly red
well perhaps if we could actually see the freakin bill we wouldn't be misinformed now would we?
Now where is the fun in transparent open ethical government? /
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:05:43pm |
re: #266 Bubblehead II
Ours would sit still for a shower. Try to put her in a tub of water, look out. Think it has to do with a shower being more "natural" IE rain fall, vs being dumped into a pond. One was "acceptable" the other intolerable.
Have you seen this?? LOL
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:05:53pm |
re: #259 sattv4u2
I get the feeling you really don't get it.
25% is pretty unlikely too.
But its like me saying:
If the new zoning laws pass, my rent could be as high as 500, 1000, 2500, or 5000 dollars a month for a 1 bedroom apartment.
Some of those numbers are clearly wrong in any reasonable circumstance (well if you don't live in NY or SF), but I'm implying that they're relatively even in their possibility. In truth, $5000 a month rent is essentially impossible for an Apartment in PDX, and I know that. I'm just using that number because it looks scary.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:06:06pm |
re: #260 wozzablog
I don't believe that you believe it as it happens - i just take exception to throwing in figures like that which just aren't at all helpful given theres so much willfully misinformed crap going around on an emotive issue like healthcare reform.
To quote Sgt. Hulka in Stripes, ,
Lighten Up, Francis
I hit two buttons on a keyboard! a 5 and a 0
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:06:08pm |
re: #267 albusteve
the debate will be broadcast on C-Span...check it out then
sorry that discriminates against poor folk like me who can't afford yer fancy cspan...
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:06:33pm |
I stayed late to finish a project and just piddled away two hours. My brain won't do anyting but puns and pontification at this time. I'm going to call the better half for a ride and try again early tomorrow. *sigh*
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:06:36pm |
Crazy Pam and Robert Spencer are giving a speech at CPAC along with a woman named Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff who has been charged with hate speech for comments she made at an FPO rally.
Freedom Party of Austria
Even though many of the FPÖ's leading proponents such as Anton Reinthaller and Friedrich Peter were former Nazis, as a third party, it had a broad appeal among voters who felt uncomfortable both with the perceived deference to the Roman Catholic Church of the Austrian People's Party (ÖVP) and the socialism of the Socialist Party of Austria (SPÖ). During the following decades, its adherents included anti-clerical liberals, business representatives striving for more economic liberalism and pan-German nationalists, some of whom were sympathetic to certain Nazi policies. Even today, the lower ranks of the party organisation are largely made up of members of German-nationalist Studentenverbindungen.
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:06:45pm |
re: #255 albusteve
I am donning protective gear....actually - I - hate -(ducking now) - football.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:07:04pm |
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:07:07pm |
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:07:38pm |
re: #268 DaddyG
Now where is the fun in transparent open ethical government? /
the fun is in creating it...
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Ojoe Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:08:06pm |
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:08:08pm |
OK, far enough down the thread for me to expose my stupidity.
I ride my bike to work every day. So I planned two indulgences for my birthday today: I would drive to work, and I would work on my own bicycle--something I've been putting off for too long.
I was remarkably far along with this plan before I realized that if I drove to work, I would not have my bicycle there to work on. Mr. w convinced me that it was OK to put the bike in the truck, drive to work, and have the best of both worlds. Seemed really weird to me, but I got used to the idea pretty quickly.
I can't blame age for my dimwittedness. Mr. w, who was watching and waiting for me to realize what I was doing [and managing not to laugh], is much older.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:08:09pm |
re: #275 Escaped Hillbilly
I am donning protective gear...actually - I - hate -(ducking now) - football.
if you hate football, then you hate America and God...it's that simple
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:08:50pm |
re: #276 sattv4u2
Dude you got caught in some bad rhetoric. Just own up to it, and go do whatever you have to do.
By defending your bad position you're making both your side and the people arguing against you more shrill.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:09:11pm |
re: #281 albusteve
if you hate football, then you hate America and God...it's that simple
and beer...
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:09:19pm |
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:09:54pm |
re: #279 Ojoe
Sunset on the San Gabriel Mountains of California. The Towercam, Pacific time zone.
Nature break.
BBL.
Que linda.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:09:55pm |
What up science bitches!
Sorry, love the Big Bang Theory.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:10:05pm |
re: #279 Ojoe
Sunset on the San Gabriel Mountains of California. The Towercam, Pacific time zone.
Nature break.
BBL.
/do we really need to know every time you take a nature break?
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:10:12pm |
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:10:23pm |
re: #275 Escaped Hillbilly
I used to hate Football. Then, I started to get it over time. I still think it'd be a more fun game tho', if they made incomplete passes count as fumbles :)
Pro basketball and any kind of Soccer, those I hate.
Also frickin' baseball, unless I'm actually at the staduim.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:10:27pm |
re: #265 brookly red
That assumes theres a Bill to see - there just isn't. There are still atleast 2 bills.
Those two bills are easy enough to find online.
However, in the vacuum of leadership left by Obama/Sebelius in this debate opponents who want no change are thinking of worst case scenarios and then trebbling them, killing granma anyone?.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:10:51pm |
re: #286 rwdflynavy
What up science bitches!
Sorry, love the Big Bang Theory.
The TV show and the explosion.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:11:18pm |
re: #288 albusteve
3 strikes...the guy is doomed
I got some torches... see if you can dig up a couple of pitchforks.
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:11:23pm |
re: #278 brookly red
the fun is in creating it...
My own state put up a web site that made it easy for the public to look up public employees salaries by name or agency. That is always good for some fun in the office.
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:11:48pm |
Oh great. _Bridge on the River Kwai_ is on. Good movie, but I'll have the "Colonel Bogey March" as an earbug for the next 24 hours.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:12:00pm |
re: #282 windsagio
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, I'M NOT SHRILL!!!!!!
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:12:06pm |
re: #280 wrenchwench
OK, far enough down the thread for me to expose my stupidity.
I ride my bike to work every day. So I planned two indulgences for my birthday today: I would drive to work, and I would work on my own bicycle--something I've been putting off for too long.
I was remarkably far along with this plan before I realized that if I drove to work, I would not have my bicycle there to work on. Mr. w convinced me that it was OK to put the bike in the truck, drive to work, and have the best of both worlds. Seemed really weird to me, but I got used to the idea pretty quickly.
I can't blame age for my dimwittedness. Mr. w, who was watching and waiting for me to realize what I was doing [and managing not to laugh], is much older.
Well first of all HIPPO BIRDIE TO EWE!! ♥♥
Secondly, chalk it up to brain fart :)
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:12:15pm |
re: #281 albusteve
if you hate football, then you hate America and God...it's that simple
//X2000
1) not all of it
2) how can you hate what you don't believe in?
//Hate, hate, hate,
Hate, hate, hate,
LOATHE ENTIRELY!
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Ojoe Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:12:19pm |
re: #283 brookly red
Football is OK, but too linear for me.
Baseball, well it has many permutations, and I like it better.
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:12:22pm |
re: #294 DaddyG
What state, if I may ask? I know my former home has put up some amazing transparency programs since the debacle that was the 2004 Gov. election (WA here)
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:12:41pm |
re: #279 Ojoe
Sunset on the San Gabriel Mountains of California. The Towercam, Pacific time zone.
Nature break.
BBL.
No fair. You still have sun and ours disappeared three hours ago. California needs to pay a solar tax and donate the light to the East coast.
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:13:14pm |
re: #300 Ojoe
I find baseball so slow. Certainly too slow to watch on TV. Its weirdly exciting in person tho'.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:13:47pm |
re: #290 wozzablog
That assumes theres a Bill to see - there just isn't. There are still atleast 2 bills.
Those two bills are easy enough to find online.
However, in the vacuum of leadership left by Obama/Sebelius in this debate opponents who want no change are thinking of worst case scenarios and then trebbling them, killing granma anyone?.
somebody will write a book someday about this monster fucked up bill and all the dirt and shenanigans to get it passed...all the dirt, the payoffs, big pharm...and at least half the voters don't want it...epic democrat clusterfuck
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:14:14pm |
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:14:16pm |
re: #295 oaktree
Oh great. _Bridge on the River Kwai_ is on. Good movie, but I'll have the "Colonel Bogey March" as an earbug for the next 24 hours.
I'm watching that and a show on Discovery about Special Force's selection. I can see how Dickhead survived that.
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:14:25pm |
re: #298 marjoriemoon
Well first of all HIPPO BIRDIE TO EWE!! ♥♥
One of my sisters emailed the same thing, only without the hearts!
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:14:34pm |
re: #300 Ojoe
Football is OK, but too linear for me.
Baseball, well it has many permutations, and I like it better.
you shall be spared...
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:14:42pm |
re: #272 brookly red
Mate, it's streamed free online too in video, or for less bandwidth audio.
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Ojoe Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:14:45pm |
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:14:58pm |
re: #289 windsagio
//Anabel Aardvarkian Who, I hate you. hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate...
Ummm, is pro baking a sport?
Found a new one to hate since moving to NY...churling. But it looks fun to play, just not to watch.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:15:13pm |
re: #300 Ojoe
Football is OK, but too linear for me.
Baseball, well it has many permutations, and I like it better.
football is too linear?....what the...
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:15:19pm |
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:15:27pm |
re: #303 windsagio
I find baseball so slow. Certainly too slow to watch on TV. Its weirdly exciting in person tho'.
It's the proximity to all those tight butts.
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Randall Gross Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:15:27pm |
Icebite blog
[Link: www.astrobio.net...]
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:15:32pm |
re: #310 wozzablog
Mate, it's streamed free online too in video, or for less bandwidth audio.
so how you liking it so far?
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:15:46pm |
re: #310 wozzablog
[Link: www.c-span.org...]
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PhillyPretzel Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:15:47pm |
re: #308 wrenchwench
It is your birthday? Well then have a happy birthday.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:15:56pm |
Hey Lizards!
I've bee hiding all day, what happened?
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:16:32pm |
re: #321 ggt
Hey Lizards!
I've bee hiding all day, what happened?
We're talking about tight butts. Well, at least I am.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:16:42pm |
re: #303 windsagio
I find baseball so slow. Certainly too slow to watch on TV. Its weirdly exciting in person tho'.
you seem like a hollywood wrasseling fan to me...
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:16:59pm |
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:17:10pm |
re: #301 windsagio
What state, if I may ask? I know my former home has put up some amazing transparency programs since the debacle that was the 2004 Gov. election (WA here)
Georgia. I was bragging on our Governor and state employees at the start of the thread. We really have done some amazing things despite tough times. Governor Perdue has been a Dem and a Reb and managed to respect both. He's been a great Executive but we've only got him for one more year.
I know a guy who just got apppointed as Deputy Director for one of your agencies. Be nice to him!
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:17:26pm |
re: #315 MandyManners
It's the proximity to all those tight butts.
You said it. And a guy in uniform...
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:17:34pm |
re: #312 Escaped Hillbilly
//Anabel Aardvarkian Who, I hate you. hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate...
Ummm, is pro baking a sport?
Found a new one to hate since moving to NY...churling. But it looks fun to play, just not to watch.
Curling? Or are you being churlish?
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Ojoe Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:17:47pm |
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:17:57pm |
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:18:03pm |
re: #322 MandyManners
We're talking about tight butts. Well, at least I am.
/ wanna see me snap a pencil or two ?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:18:07pm |
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:18:19pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:18:20pm |
re: #82 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Man, been reading more on that shark attack. All they found left were the guys swimming goggles and blood in the water. The rescue teams are saying its probable that there wasn't anything left to find and that it ate all of him. That just creeps the shit out of me.
Some folks have been saying for years that some 'disappearances' while swimming might be great white attacks where the animal was just big enough to surface, chomp, and go, without leaving any trace.
I guess this might make that sound less crazy.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:18:26pm |
re: #318 brookly red
Posted a couple of *highlights* to you in a thread a couple of nights back - it's been bad. Really bad.
Democrats tying themselves in nots over a public option that won't be in order to satisfy the "concience" of the esteemed member from CT, and the Republicans have treated it like a joke.
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:18:55pm |
re: #311 Ojoe
How about some big mirrors in the desert?
BBL
...and if you act now we'll throw in this handy hot dog rack!
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:19:00pm |
re: #307 MandyManners
I'm skipping over between the movie and an ice hockey game. Plus keeping the cats amused while some soup simmers. Lots of little things to keep me busy.
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:19:16pm |
re: #324 windsagio
I dunno. Played on ice with brooms. With brooms people! Is that a sport? My mother would have been wicked good I think.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:19:36pm |
re: #324 windsagio
hmm churling?
Is churling the same as curling?
re: #317 Ojoe
Really? Why? Its sooo slow!
Greta churling movie: Men with Brooms (and shrooms)
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:19:48pm |
re: #313 albusteve
football is too linear?...what the...
He's not familiar with the new spread offense. /
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:19:59pm |
re: #94 jhrhv
Thanks for the responses. Just wanted to check with a few people that I wasn't doing one of those no good deed shall go unpunished kind of things.
Haiti is what Gaza is claimed to be. Give. These are good people who've been through hell.
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:20:06pm |
re: #338 Escaped Hillbilly
yeah thats curling.
The Canadians eat that crap up.
That and cup-stacking.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:20:09pm |
re: #333 SanFranciscoZionist
Some folks have been saying for years that some 'disappearances' while swimming might be great white attacks where the animal was just big enough to surface, chomp, and go, without leaving any trace.
I guess this might make that sound less crazy.
It is uncanny too the way these beasts can tell if someone is about to lose a nasty court case...
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:20:15pm |
re: #327 wrenchwench
Happy birthday. Yeah I rather think I am today (churlish, cool word).
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PhillyPretzel Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:20:33pm |
re: #338 Escaped Hillbilly
Curling. I believe it is Scottish.
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:20:34pm |
re: #340 DaddyG
I wanna see the world's first non-euclidian sport!
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:20:46pm |
re: #325 DaddyG
Georgia. I was bragging on our Governor and state employees at the start of the thread. We really have done some amazing things despite tough times. Governor Perdue has been a Dem and a Reb and managed to respect both. He's been a great Executive but we've only got him for one more year.
I know a guy who just got apppointed as Deputy Director for one of your agencies. Be nice to him!
Dem and Rep = pimf
Georgia Governor a Reb... heh. Oops.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:20:48pm |
re: #99 Stanley Sea
Yes, Twitter has officially killed off normal human behavior.
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:21:20pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:21:30pm |
re: #101 Bubblehead II
Might be a descendent of this guy. Then again, just because we haven't found a live one, doesn't mean they are not still out there.
Seriously, how many ocean species have we found to still be around after we thought they were extinct?
// Nessie doesn't count as we haven't caught it yet.
There's a hell of a lot we don't know about, out in the deep ocean, I wager...
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:21:41pm |
re: #338 Escaped Hillbilly
I dunno. Played on ice with brooms. With brooms people! Is that a sport? My mother would have been wicked good I think.
I dont know, the movie made it seem like a good excuse to get drunk --and I don't drink.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:21:42pm |
re: #154 Bubblehead II
And pray tell how do you walk a cat?
We have a courtyard that I have to follow her around in or she'll jump the fence and go on GASP French Leave. Pepper is a 12lb Maine Coon and the smartest and biggest female cat we've ever had. Into everything, noisy and sweet. Love her to pieces but a real gray menace!
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:22:00pm |
re: #334 wozzablog
Posted a couple of *highlights* to you in a thread a couple of nights back - it's been bad. Really bad.
Democrats tying themselves in nots over a public option that won't be in order to satisfy the "concience" of the esteemed member from CT, and the Republicans have treated it like a joke.
[Video]
maybe we all should take a step back & like examine it for a year or so?
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PhillyPretzel Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:22:21pm |
re: #350 windsagio
Oh. Okay. You learn something new everyday.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:22:36pm |
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:22:41pm |
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:23:04pm |
re: #269 marjoriemoon
LOL. That brings three questions to mind.
1. How much did I drink last night?
2. What the F*k did I do?
3. Do I really want to know?
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:23:09pm |
re: #354 brookly red
Hah, no. Thats a good way to kill it outright. Don't have bagua here to get into the usual discussion with, but we need a foot in the door as quickly as possible.
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:23:11pm |
re: #308 wrenchwench
One of my sisters emailed the same thing, only without the hearts!
For you, dear wench :)
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:23:12pm |
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darthstar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:23:14pm |
So I hear Limbaugh told his listeners not to donate to the Red Cross via the White House web site (like his listeners know how to use the internet)...still, Limbaugh's a fuckin' prick.
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:23:19pm |
re: #339 ggt
Awesome unintended humor really. Read the review? Too many rocks in the house? Yes, my mother should really have played this game.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:23:41pm |
re: #344 Escaped Hillbilly
Happy birthday. Yeah I rather think I am today (churlish, cool word).
Churlish is an very, very old word! Root word Churl meaning servant or low class. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:23:48pm |
re: #331 ggt
oooh, got pics?
Remember that USMC calendar from a few Christmases ago? The link's gone.
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:23:54pm |
re: #315 MandyManners
It's the proximity to all those tight butts.
Because, as we all know, tight butts drive Mandy nuts!
;-P
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Stanghazi Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:24:23pm |
Here is a bunch of photos from the earthquake in Haiti. Unbelievable.
[Link: www.boston.com...]
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:24:33pm |
re: #354 brookly red
maybe we all should take a step back & like examine it for a year or so?
a year!...good lord!...it's a crisis, people are dying in the streets...America as we know it will collapse if this bill is not passed by last summer!
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:24:34pm |
re: #337 oaktree
I'm skipping over between the movie and an ice hockey game. Plus keeping the cats amused while some soup simmers. Lots of little things to keep me busy.
It was hilarious to see those SF candidates puking their guts up.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:24:40pm |
re: #305 albusteve
I've said it from the start - Obama/Dashle should have presented a bill to be voted on.
The polls in the nation at the time 70% all over the place personal approval and public option.
Over time the numbers got worse and people seeing how the sausage got made really turned them off the whole process. The low approval numbers have little as to what is in the bill - as there ios no final bill - it's more a *feeling* as to how everything has been done.
The huge number in favour of a public option did not dissapear - until a month or so back 59% in a Kaiser survery still said there should be a public option.
Its a combination of psychonuts showing up at townhalls, a lack of presidential leadership (when obama speaks the numbers ho back up, when he's quiet they tank), the GOP determined to be of no help at all in enacting a policy favoure by a majority of people, *democrats* who were paid off by insurance firms/big pharma/hospital groups to keep the status quo going....... the list is long.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:24:58pm |
re: #134 oaktree
Lizard Quiz! In the mail today I got a unsolicited invite for a free copy of a magazine. On the front on the envelop was a list of the following subjects:
How the CIA subverts the U.S. government.
Christian singles dating questionnaire.
America's emerging caste system.
How Wall Street stands to profit from AIDS.
Stalking the campus thought police.
The myth of missing children.
How the Pentagon hides $22 billion.
The feminist case for pornography.
Robert Stone takes a crack at cocaine.Name the magazine. (The prize is an up-ding!)
Playboy?
Not Cosmo, they always promise a sizzling sex move no woman has ever had the guts to offer him before.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:24:59pm |
re: #362 darthstar
So I hear Limbaugh told his listeners not to donate to the Red Cross via the White House web site (like his listeners know how to use the internet)...still, Limbaugh's a fuckin' prick.
why use a middle man? donate directly...
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:25:19pm |
re: #340 DaddyG
Nothing linear about the Miami season.... GO WILDCAT!
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:25:31pm |
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darthstar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:25:45pm |
re: #353 Dragon_Lady
We have a courtyard that I have to follow her around in or she'll jump the fence and go on GASP French Leave. Pepper is a 12lb Maine Coon and the smartest and biggest female cat we've ever had. Into everything, noisy and sweet. Love her to pieces but a real gray menace!
I used to have an 18lb Maine Coon cat...had a figure-8 harness he'd wear and I'd walk him on a leash. Only way he was allowed outside. Though if it started getting dark he'd go feral on me and it'd be a bloody fight (with me bleeding) to get him back to the house...once inside, he was all sweetness and love again.
Cat used to hold a grudge too. If I pissed him off, he'd wait an hour or more and when I wasn't expecting it, jump up and bite me on the ass!
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:26:05pm |
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:26:07pm |
re: #370 wozzablog
man, you're totally right, but I hate posts like that.
Makes me want to smash something.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:26:13pm |
re: #351 SanFranciscoZionist
There's a hell of a lot we don't know about, out in the deep ocean, I wager...
I predict when the Anarctica ice melts, the secret of life will be revealed to mankind....part of a long range plan
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:26:33pm |
re: #151 wrenchwench
The guy that flew to Jonestown--oh, wait, you said "name"...
Congressman Leo Ryan.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:26:52pm |
re: #372 brookly red
why use a middle man? donate directly...
I was wondering about the the TXT listed on the White House site. Will your phone bill show the Red Cross or the White House/IRS/GAO?
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:26:53pm |
re: #368 albusteve
a year!...good lord!...it's a crisis, people are dying in the streets...America as we know it will collapse if this bill is not passed by last summer!
I got it! we can use the money saved by cap & trade to pay for the public option! (the first prick to say that on Capitol Hill is toast)
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:26:55pm |
I saw on the news today that machete wielding gangs are running the streets of Port Au Prince. Time for a comedy break (Parks and Recreation and 30 Rock.)
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RogueOne Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:27:19pm |
re: #229 windsagio
I dunno if taste-tests would support it, but I definitely can tell a difference in the taste of
re: #219 brookly red
my poor old pit bull
re: #2 suchislife
and I liked:
re: #203 marjoriemoon
big pusses!
re: #164 MandyManners
*gasp*
re: #228 albusteve
poor old pitbull!
re: #8 Bubblehead II
He cried.
re: #1 wrenchwench
What? I just ate lunch.
re: #72 DaddyG
death panel.
easily amused/
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:28:00pm |
re: #380 ggt
I was wondering about the the TXT listed on the White House site. Will your phone bill show the Red Cross or the White House/IRS/GAO?
either way you get on the mailing list... can you say "data mining?"
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:28:17pm |
re: #347 Ojoe
Yes, BBL
The old games were funner than today's "sports". I think what I really hate is the formality and rules and uniforms...makes play into work. Blech.
I remember a game we used to play which involved throwing knives and trying to span the distance by stretching your legs. I don't remember the rules but I'm sure we shouldn't have been playing it.
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:28:29pm |
re: #349 SanFranciscoZionist
Yes, Twitter has officially killed off normal human behavior.
What was that? Your post was too long and it lost my attention. /
My HS aged daugher came home with a powerpoint assignment with more text per slide than could be read at anything more than 12 pt font and pictures covering every bit of space. I taught her about white space, encouraged her to use the graphics and text to highlight and illustrate and then put the detailed text into the notes section for her to use to give the speech...
WHen she returned home with the grade she got high marks for the speech but the teacher dinged her for not putting every word on each slide. He also encouraged her to use more colorful backgrounds and text using a tie dye pattern and pink text as an example.
I apologised to her for costing the points then proceeded to tell her what an idiot her instructor was. Why do they ask kids to use powerpoint when what they really want is a term paper with pictures?
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:28:36pm |
re: #374 MandyManners
Especially if the chute doesn't deploy.
That's why they call it "terminal velocity".
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:28:50pm |
re: #379 SanFranciscoZionist
Congressman Leo Ryan.
Your thorough approach to a thread continues to amaze and amuse me!
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:29:55pm |
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:29:59pm |
re: #364 Dragon_Lady
Churlish is an very, very old word! Root word Churl meaning servant or low class. Sorry to burst your bubble.
First, you didn't. Second, I didn't say new, I said cool. I know what it means. I like it. And I AM low class.
Smile its not Monday.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:30:41pm |
re: #384 brookly red
either way you get on the mailing list... can you say "data mining?"
Well if the TXT is really the REd Cross's TXT--it would just be the Red Cross's Data. If the White House is collecting the money and then passing it on to the REd Cross--well, can you say WASTE OF TIME. The more hands money passes thru, the less of it gets to it's final destination.
How much of a fee does the White House coffer take? If indeed the TXT isn't directly to the Red Cross.
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:30:59pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:31:38pm |
re: #281 albusteve
if you hate football, then you hate America and God...it's that simple
Can I still love God and America if I say that I don't understand football? Or have much interest in it?
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:31:43pm |
re: #387 Decatur Deb
That's why they call it "terminal velocity".
My plane would have to be on fire before I'd jump out of it. I useta' enjoy watching Dickhead and his team mates jump, though.
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darthstar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:32:02pm |
re: #372 brookly red
why use a middle man? donate directly...
It's just a link to the Red Cross's web site. It's not like you're donating to the White House to have them pass money to the Red Cross. Telling people not to click a link from the WH to donate (directly) is just shitty.
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:32:05pm |
re: #386 DaddyG
What was that? Your post was too long and it lost my attention. /
My HS aged daugher came home with a powerpoint assignment with more text per slide than could be read at anything more than 12 pt font and pictures covering every bit of space. I taught her about white space, encouraged her to use the graphics and text to highlight and illustrate and then put the detailed text into the notes section for her to use to give the speech...
WHen she returned home with the grade she got high marks for the speech but the teacher dinged her for not putting every word on each slide. He also encouraged her to use more colorful backgrounds and text using a tie dye pattern and pink text as an example.
I apologised to her for costing the points then proceeded to tell her what an idiot her instructor was. Why do they ask kids to use powerpoint when what they really want is a term paper with pictures?
How old is the teacher, you know? I would expect that from someone a 20 something more than a 40 something, but who knows these days.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:32:07pm |
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:32:12pm |
re: #391 ggt
Well if the TXT is really the REd Cross's TXT--it would just be the Red Cross's Data. If the White House is collecting the money and then passing it on to the REd Cross--well, can you say WASTE OF TIME. The more hands money passes thru, the less of it gets to it's final destination.
How much of a fee does the White House coffer take? If indeed the TXT isn't directly to the Red Cross.
I doubt even they would dare take a fee...
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:32:48pm |
re: #394 MandyManners
My plane would have to be on fire before I'd jump out of it. I useta' enjoy watching Dickhead and his team mates jump, though.
gotta love the life insurance...
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darthstar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:32:50pm |
re: #380 ggt
I was wondering about the the TXT listed on the White House site. Will your phone bill show the Red Cross or the White House/IRS/GAO?
That's also a direct payment to the Red Cross...shit, people. Put the foil away.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:33:12pm |
re: #395 darthstar
It's just a link to the Red Cross's web site. It's not like you're donating to the White House to have them pass money to the Red Cross. Telling people not to click a link from the WH to donate (directly) is just shitty.
I agree, Thanks for clarifying that it is a direct TXT to the Red Cross.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:33:44pm |
re: #399 brookly red
gotta love the life insurance...
What's the military level nowadays--$300,000.00?
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Stanghazi Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:34:22pm |
re: #391 ggt
Well if the TXT is really the REd Cross's TXT--it would just be the Red Cross's Data. If the White House is collecting the money and then passing it on to the REd Cross--well, can you say WASTE OF TIME. The more hands money passes thru, the less of it gets to it's final destination.
How much of a fee does the White House coffer take? If indeed the TXT isn't directly to the Red Cross.
It's directly to the Red Cross. The Whitehouse website is just posting the link.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:34:22pm |
re: #393 SanFranciscoZionist
Can I still love God and America if I say that I don't understand football? Or have much interest in it?
you can fake it and dodge the ReHab Police...honestly I've never actually met an American who dislikes football...they should be hunted down and reformed imo....it's a disgrace
| 405 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:34:31pm |
re: #400 darthstar
That's also a direct payment to the Red Cross...shit, people. Put the foil away.
It is a legitamate question. Thanks for clarifying.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:34:32pm |
re: #400 darthstar
That's also a direct payment to the Red Cross...shit, people. Put the foil away.
are people so stupid they can't find the red cross on their own?
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:34:35pm |
re: #354 brookly red
No chance.
Something has to be done now - it can be revisited in a few years, but now it's important to get as many of those uninsured onto rolls so those with pre-existing conditions, too poor and without work cover can get into the system.
On a political basis Obama can claim he got a healthcare bill, most of the uninsured get covered - and the dogs dinner can be sorted out by a true public option down the road somewhere.
This is as far as reform will get. If there were two more real Democrats who cared about the presidents agenda in the Senate rather than their own egos - there would have been no problems. All of this is over the fact that Democrat senators and caucusers can't get behind a popular president of their own party and implement a policy favoured by upto 70% of the public when this whole thing started.
Frankly it makes me sick that this is the best they can do - but it's all that'll be achieved for now.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:35:06pm |
Oh, my goodness. A candidate just wandered out of the woods and walked down a road.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:35:26pm |
re: #388 wrenchwench
Your thorough approach to a thread continues to amaze and amuse me!
I am terminally linear.
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windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:35:51pm |
re: #404 albusteve
go to any big meeting of geeks (well mainly young geeks) go to an anime or furry convention, and probably 9 out of 10 participants will say they hate sports, especially Football.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:35:55pm |
re: #402 MandyManners
What's the military level nowadays--$300,000.00?
SGLI was 200,000 when I was last involved--6 yrs ago.
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avanti Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:35:57pm |
re: #395 darthstar
It's just a link to the Red Cross's web site. It's not like you're donating to the White House to have them pass money to the Red Cross. Telling people not to click a link from the WH to donate (directly) is just shitty.
Yep, that is one of the silliest things I've ever heard among many silly ones. The WH adds a link to donate, and that's somehow evil.
| 413 |
brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:36:02pm |
re: #408 MandyManners
Oh, my goodness. A candidate just wandered out of the woods and walked down a road.
uhhh candidate for what?
| 414 |
Stanghazi Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:36:12pm |
re: #406 brookly red
are people so stupid they can't find the red cross on their own?
There is nothing wrong with the Whitehouse posting it. Geeze! If they post it on 50,000 websites, the sooner maybe $ can be raised.
| 415 |
albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:36:23pm |
re: #400 darthstar
That's also a direct payment to the Red Cross...shit, people. Put the foil away.
I'm headed down there to set up a saloon, send me a check and I'll deliver it myself
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:36:24pm |
re: #362 darthstar
So I hear Limbaugh told his listeners not to donate to the Red Cross via the White House web site (like his listeners know how to use the internet)...still, Limbaugh's a fuckin' prick.
Yeah, he accused the Pres of using the earthquake for political purposes apparantly because he gave a newsconference the next day but didn't for the underwear bomber. I can't be disappointed in this guy any more. He's so far down the rabbit hole that his own party is dissing him.
| 417 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:36:45pm |
re: #362 darthstar
So I hear Limbaugh told his listeners not to donate to the Red Cross via the White House web site (like his listeners know how to use the internet)...still, Limbaugh's a fuckin' prick.
He's become a full-on racist monster. If the GOP has any brains at all they will lash out at him and smack him down before he drags their party down further.
I used to sorta consider guys like Hannity and Rush peas in a pod. No longer. I see the difference now, i see where Hannity is being a pro and being a standup guy, linking to haiti donations on his site, staying away from politics, and Limbaugh has become human excrement behind a microphone.
| 418 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:36:55pm |
re: #411 Decatur Deb
SGLI was 200,000 when I was last involved--6 yrs ago.
Dickhead told me his was $250,000.00.
| 419 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:37:05pm |
| 420 |
albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:37:06pm |
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RogueOne Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:37:10pm |
re: #410 windsagio
go to any big meeting of geeks (well mainly young geeks) go to an anime or furry convention, and probably 9 out of 10 participants will say they hate sports, especially Football.
Kids that don't like football turn out to be furries. The science is settled.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:37:48pm |
re: #415 albusteve
I'm headed down there to set up a saloon, send me a check and I'll deliver it myself
the name voodoo lounge has already been taken...
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:38:00pm |
re: #396 marjoriemoon
How old is the teacher, you know? I would expect that from someone a 20 something more than a 40 something, but who knows these days.
I didn't ask. I think he was a 40 something. At least it wasn't a writing instructor.
| 424 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:38:17pm |
re: #281 albusteve
if you hate football, then you hate America and God...it's that simple
I've hated God for years. Look what he did to my cocaine!
I don't hate football, it just doesn't hold my interest. The only pro sport that does is the NBA, and since the Sonics moved to Oklahoma and the Blazers are so injured as to barely qualify as a team, I've stopped watching.
| 425 |
Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:38:21pm |
re: #408 MandyManners
Hiking the old appalachian trail............
| 426 |
Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:38:35pm |
re: #393 SanFranciscoZionist
I work with a set of contractors whose favorite sport is cricket. I've amazed them by being someone who actually knows a few of the terms and what they mean (thank you Douglas Adams, Monty Python and the Goodies).
| 427 |
Pacificlady Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:38:35pm |
I just have to vent. Robertson is an a$$hole. And I wonder if Obama could get retired General Honore to go to Haiti. I love that guy.
| 428 |
brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:38:37pm |
| 429 |
Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:38:39pm |
re: #418 MandyManners
Sounds reasonable, they were raising it as the combat fired up.
| 430 |
windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:39:11pm |
re: #424 WindUpBird
"Did you see what Goooood just did to us?!"
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avanti Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:39:29pm |
re: #406 brookly red
are people so stupid they can't find the red cross on their own?
You could say that about a link to Amazon on here, or any link for that matter . The idea is to get as many links as possible out there, so folks will see them while surfing and decide to click on impulse.
| 432 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:39:38pm |
re: #416 Escaped Hillbilly
Yeah, he accused the Pres of using the earthquake for political purposes apparantly because he gave a newsconference the next day but didn't for the underwear bomber. I can't be disappointed in this guy any more. He's so far down the rabbit hole that his own party is dissing him.
I'm curious what Rush will be saying in five years. because he's just getting more and more extreme and insane. Where does it go?
| 433 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:39:42pm |
re: #406 brookly red
are people so stupid they can't find the red cross on their own?
Yesterday, when I clicked-on the White House site, I was actually relieved that the Haiti link information was front and center. I didn't have to search around for it AND it showed me that the White House team weas responding to what was in the forefront of my mind. Strange, but I didn't expect the WH to react any more than in the past--a side bar link or something relatively obscure.
The TXT info was easily referenced and easy to do. It's kind of reassuring that most Americans are most concerned with what they can do for Haiti--which is give money. The WH Team obviously knew that and provided the necessary information.
| 434 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:40:28pm |
re: #417 WindUpBird
He's become a full-on racist monster. If the GOP has any brains at all they will lash out at him and smack him down before he drags their party down further.
I used to sorta consider guys like Hannity and Rush peas in a pod. No longer. I see the difference now, i see where Hannity is being a pro and being a standup guy, linking to haiti donations on his site, staying away from politics, and Limbaugh has become human excrement behind a microphone.
Rush has a serious mean streak. There's no point in playing politics with this. Haiti is the poorest country in the Americas. They need aid now, or the death of hundreds of thousands more will be on the heads of the world's nations.
This is a no-brainer. We send what we got, and we save who we can. Rush's comment yesterday is like sitting on your ass, watching your neighbor's house burn, and saying that you won't join the bucket chain because your taxes already paid for the fire department.
| 435 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:40:45pm |
Lizards, time for me to call it a night.
((Ladies))
->Gents
| 436 |
albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:40:56pm |
re: #422 brookly red
the name voodoo lounge has already been taken...
dammitall...I'll call it Beggars Banquet then
| 437 |
DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:41:34pm |
| 438 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:41:52pm |
re: #421 RogueOne
Kids that don't like football turn out to be furries. The science is settled.
Tell that to my friends in the fandom who have season tickets. ;-)
| 439 |
Stanghazi Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:42:14pm |
re: #434 SanFranciscoZionist
Rush has a serious mean streak. There's no point in playing politics with this. Haiti is the poorest country in the Americas. They need aid now, or the death of hundreds of thousands more will be on the heads of the world's nations.
This is a no-brainer. We send what we got, and we save who we can. Rush's comment yesterday is like sitting on your ass, watching your neighbor's house burn, and saying that you won't join the bucket chain because your taxes already paid for the fire department.
And he throws in his "light skin, dark skin" comments just for fun.
god that guy just makes me fucking sick. (and that's the pg version)
| 441 |
Randall Gross Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:42:19pm |
A Boat on the reef with a broken back
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:42:26pm |
re: #425 wozzablog
Hiking the old appalachian trail...
The instructor told him to look at his feet to see what he was walking on and to look at the trees, how they were all lined up. I about fell out of my chair laughing.
| 443 |
brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:42:36pm |
re: #433 ggt
Yesterday, when I clicked-on the White House site, I was actually relieved that the Haiti link information was front and center. I didn't have to search around for it AND it showed me that the White House team weas responding to what was in the forefront of my mind. Strange, but I didn't expect the WH to react any more than in the past--a side bar link or something relatively obscure.
The TXT info was easily referenced and easy to do. It's kind of reassuring that most Americans are most concerned with what they can do for Haiti--which is give money. The WH Team obviously knew that and provided the necessary information.
cool. did O donate his nobel prize money yet?
| 444 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:42:41pm |
| 445 |
albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:42:44pm |
re: #432 WindUpBird
I'm curious what Rush will be saying in five years. because he's just getting more and more extreme and insane. Where does it go?
who cares?....people say all kinds of crazy shit, you can't stop them....crazy is big money
| 446 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:43:16pm |
re: #429 Decatur Deb
Sounds reasonable, they were raising it as the combat fired up.
Dang war screwed up my divorce.
| 447 |
windsagio Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:43:34pm |
re: #438 WindUpBird
oh please. That group is about as anti-sports as they get. You just know the elites :p
| 448 |
Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:43:34pm |
target="_blank">#411 Decatur Deb
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darthstar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:43:38pm |
re: #443 brookly red
cool. did O donate his nobel prize money yet?
Are you offering to match his donation? Good for you!
| 450 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:44:01pm |
Gotta go for now,
Have a greatest evening all.
| 451 |
brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:44:27pm |
re: #449 darthstar
Are you offering to match his donation? Good for you!
are you really that hooked?
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:44:34pm |
re: #421 RogueOne
Kids that don't like football turn out to be furries. The science is settled.
And the 10th one has a hunting license...
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:44:53pm |
re: #443 brookly red
cool. did O donate his nobel prize money yet?
no he bought more stock in Pharmacia
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:44:56pm |
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:44:58pm |
re: #375 darthstar
I used to have an 18lb Maine Coon cat...had a figure-8 harness he'd wear and I'd walk him on a leash. Only way he was allowed outside. Though if it started getting dark he'd go feral on me and it'd be a bloody fight (with me bleeding) to get him back to the house...once inside, he was all sweetness and love again.
Cat used to hold a grudge too. If I pissed him off, he'd wait an hour or more and when I wasn't expecting it, jump up and bite me on the ass!
Told you they are smart! Smartest cat I ever had, but my Peppers is a real love. No revenge from her, yet!
| 456 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:45:31pm |
| 457 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:45:34pm |
re: #445 albusteve
who cares?...people say all kinds of crazy shit, you can't stop them...crazy is big money
If he was just another crazy broadcaster, it wouldn't really be news. That Bill Cunningham guy, he says worse, but nobody cares, because he has no power, and he's a laughing stock.
Rush is not a laughingstock. Rush is taken seriously by millions of people. Rush count singlehandedly ruin the career of a senator up for re-election. Whenever a GOP politician criticizes him or finds themselves on the wrong side of his ire, they go scurrying back to him on their hands and knees begging for forgveness. So that's why I care. because he wields massive power within a major political party in an incredibly powerful country.
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:45:47pm |
re: #449 darthstar
Are you offering to match his donation? Good for you!
I will match all of his earnings from potential future accomplishments with all of my earnings from potentail future accomplishments. 100%
(I thought the Nobel committee took a cheap shot at Bush- the least they could have done was wait 3.5 years more. Obama handled the acceptance with class however.)
| 459 |
Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:46:01pm |
re: #448 Escaped Hillbilly
target="_blank">#411 Decatur Deb
It was 10,000 when I went in. 55,000 guys went cheap.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:46:15pm |
re: #453 albusteve
no he bought more stock in Pharmacia
kinda a conflict of interests if it is actually so...
| 461 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:46:27pm |
re: #455 Dragon_Lady
Told you they are smart! Smartest cat I ever had, but my Peppers is a real love. No revenge from her, yet!
I tried to teach my two cats to pee into Dickhead's shoes but, no go.
| 462 |
albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:47:05pm |
re: #457 WindUpBird
If he was just another crazy broadcaster, it wouldn't really be news. That Bill Cunningham guy, he says worse, but nobody cares, because he has no power, and he's a laughing stock.
Rush is not a laughingstock. Rush is taken seriously by millions of people. Rush count singlehandedly ruin the career of a senator up for re-election. Whenever a GOP politician criticizes him or finds themselves on the wrong side of his ire, they go scurrying back to him on their hands and knees begging for forgveness. So that's why I care. because he wields massive power within a major political party in an incredibly powerful country.
wow, yikes, wook ouuut!
da Rush is on the loose!
I'm more concerned about the Vikings myself
| 463 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:47:05pm |
It would be a very appropriate use for the Nobel money, and not at all politically dicey.
| 464 |
Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:47:12pm |
re: #404 albusteve
you can fake it and dodge the ReHab Police...honestly I've never actually met an American who dislikes football...they should be hunted down and reformed imo...it's a disgrace
Well, now you know two! I affectionately call it foolball...
| 465 |
darthstar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:47:18pm |
re: #451 brookly red
are you really that hooked?
Like a fish. I'm giving President Obama until the end of 2011 to prove himself to me. I figure three years is a good amount of time for him to get most of the crap fixed and the country headed in the right direction.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:48:02pm |
re: #426 oaktree
I work with a set of contractors whose favorite sport is cricket. I've amazed them by being someone who actually knows a few of the terms and what they mean (thank you Douglas Adams, Monty Python and the Goodies).
I watched enough Cricket when i was in england and scotland to start to get it. it reminded me of baseball, but sort of a bizarro version, like Blurnsball from Futurama. Then i came back to the US and forgot everything except "leg before wicket".
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:48:21pm |
re: #465 darthstar
Like a fish. I'm giving President Obama until the end of 2011 to prove himself to me. I figure three years is a good amount of time for him to get most of the crap fixed and the country headed in the right direction.
OK...
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:48:45pm |
Apparently, Rush didn't like Haiti last spring, either:
Reacting to ex-President Bill Clinton's appointment as UN special envoy to Haiti, radio personality Rush Limbaugh had this to say yesterday:
"I'm just gonna tell you, if I was named envoy to Haiti, I'd quit government. Envoy to Haiti? You can't even pick up a prostitute down there without genuine fear of AIDS."
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:48:54pm |
re: #455 Dragon_Lady
Told you they are smart! Smartest cat I ever had, but my Peppers is a real love. No revenge from her, yet!
RWC say's you just have to put cat litter into his shoes...
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:48:59pm |
re: #445 albusteve
who cares?...people say all kinds of crazy shit, you can't stop them...crazy is big money
Well, if he convinces even one person to NOT send in their donations... I mean, whacky people's money is still money.
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darthstar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:49:11pm |
re: #466 WindUpBird
I watched enough Cricket when i was in england and scotland to start to get it. it reminded me of baseball, but sort of a bizarro version, like Blurnsball from Futurama. Then i came back to the US and forgot everything except "leg before wicket".
I loved watching the one day internationals when I was in England. Cricket's actually a tough sport. Even with those big gloves the batters wear, I watched a guy break his thumb when he was hit by a pitch/bowler.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:49:13pm |
re: #465 darthstar
Like a fish. I'm giving President Obama until the end of 2011 to prove himself to me. I figure three years is a good amount of time for him to get most of the crap fixed and the country headed in the right direction.
he's creating more crap than he's fixing...the doofus is a bumbling idiot...just vote him out and admit your mistake
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darthstar Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:49:58pm |
re: #472 albusteve
he's creating more crap than he's fixing...the doofus is a bumbling idiot...just vote him out and admit your mistake
Can I quote you on this in four years?
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:50:07pm |
re: #454 brookly red
don't do it mandy...
OMG, what was I thinking? It's not wort... wait, how much? I hope my kid doesn't get wind of this.
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:50:18pm |
re: #395 darthstar
It's just a link to the Red Cross's web site. It's not like you're donating to the White House to have them pass money to the Red Cross. Telling people not to click a link from the WH to donate (directly) is just shitty.
While I can appreciate Rush's yearly fundraisers for the Leukeumia and Lymphoma Society (even though I don't agree with the majority of the crap he's loosed out of his brain since the election [and before]), him telling his audience to NOT donate to the Red Cross via the web/text message links on the WH site (which everyone in the media has been also putting up for the past two days) is a shitty partisan snub that there's absolutely no excuse for and is totally indefensible.
/hey Rush...kiss my ass, you f**king s**thead
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:50:20pm |
re: #462 albusteve
wow, yikes, wook ouuut!
da Rush is on the loose!
I'm more concerned about the Vikings myself
Really, the best sport is still politics. I'm not totally out of touch, I always watch the Super Bowl, and my partner watches enough football that i can sort of enjoy it by proxy. I'm rooting for the Saints in the playoffs for no other reason that New Orleans needs some good news.
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:50:24pm |
re: #461 MandyManners
PIMF
RWC says you just have to put cat litter onto his shoes...
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:50:39pm |
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avanti Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:51:00pm |
re: #463 SanFranciscoZionist
It would be a very appropriate use for the Nobel money, and not at all politically dicey.
He is donating it to charity, but if he announced it was going to Haiti now, the nuts on the far right would label it a political move and you know it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:51:04pm |
Hi guys. Just got home. Watching a DVR'd "Better Off Ted" episode. Just heard a line that I can't wait to use.
Employee is answering a question the boss just asked him.
He says three words and she says, "Ugh, that's the fastest I've ever lost interest in something."
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:51:06pm |
re: #474 Escaped Hillbilly
OMG, what was I thinking? It's not wort... wait, how much? I hope my kid doesn't get wind of this.
you mean the kid who didn't get the x-box for Christmas?
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:51:12pm |
re: #477 Dragon_Lady
PIMF
RWC says you just have to put cat litter onto his shoes...
He would've figured it out.
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DaddyG Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:51:21pm |
See you Lizards on the flip side. My ride awaits.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:51:58pm |
re: #479 avanti
He is donating it to charity, but if he announced it was going to Haiti now, the nuts on the far right would label it a political move and you know it.
Screw the nuts! No one sane could criticize him for giving it the Haitians.
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avanti Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:52:03pm |
re: #468 SanFranciscoZionist
Apparently, Rush didn't like Haiti last spring, either:
Reacting to ex-President Bill Clinton's appointment as UN special envoy to Haiti, radio personality Rush Limbaugh had this to say yesterday:
"I'm just gonna tell you, if I was named envoy to Haiti, I'd quit government. Envoy to Haiti? You can't even pick up a prostitute down there without genuine fear of AIDS."
Rush had some experience in picking up hookers in Haiti ?/
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avanti Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:52:44pm |
re: #484 SanFranciscoZionist
Screw the nuts! No one sane could criticize him for giving it the Haitians.
You just made my point.
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:52:48pm |
re: #468 SanFranciscoZionist
Apparently, Rush didn't like Haiti last spring, either:
Reacting to ex-President Bill Clinton's appointment as UN special envoy to Haiti, radio personality Rush Limbaugh had this to say yesterday:
"I'm just gonna tell you, if I was named envoy to Haiti, I'd quit government. Envoy to Haiti? You can't even pick up a prostitute down there without genuine fear of AIDS."
Yeah, cause when you're named envoy, the first thing ya gotta do is figure out where the best prostitutes are. ooooh. (Now you done gone and ruined my not-Monday.)
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:53:12pm |
ok, an hour later................. i am off.
G;night all......
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Donna Ballard Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:53:23pm |
BBL, I gotta make dinner for RWC he's hungry and I promised him eggs Benedict tonight. Have fun everyone! :-)
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:53:28pm |
re: #484 SanFranciscoZionist
Screw the nuts! No one sane could criticize him for giving it the Haitians.
We're not talking about the sane.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:53:54pm |
re: #468 SanFranciscoZionist
Apparently, Rush didn't like Haiti last spring, either:
Reacting to ex-President Bill Clinton's appointment as UN special envoy to Haiti, radio personality Rush Limbaugh had this to say yesterday:
"I'm just gonna tell you, if I was named envoy to Haiti, I'd quit government. Envoy to Haiti? You can't even pick up a prostitute down there without genuine fear of AIDS."
Bill Clinton has a thousand times the moral character, philandering and all, that Limbaugh does.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:54:56pm |
re: #488 wozzablog
*thanking Stanley Sea or Windsagio for my 1500th karma*
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:55:59pm |
re: #481 brookly red
you mean the kid who didn't get the x-box for Christmas?
No, worse, the one who has been playing it almost nonstop since.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:56:15pm |
re: #476 WindUpBird
Really, the best sport is still politics. I'm not totally out of touch, I always watch the Super Bowl, and my partner watches enough football that i can sort of enjoy it by proxy. I'm rooting for the Saints in the playoffs for no other reason that New Orleans needs some good news.
I know what Rush is...I know what the right is doing etc, but all of the dirt and shit from the media is not something I can do much about...my interest in govt is all about security and the budget...I don't get any satisfaction from reading thousands of posts slamming Rush and Palin and Beck etc...to me it's like silly gossip...football/sports is real, it's not some made up sharade...at least it has that going for it
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avanti Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:56:18pm |
re: #491 WindUpBird
Bill Clinton has a thousand times the moral character, philandering and all, that Limbaugh does.
I wouldn't trust Bill with my wife, but he'll do well with Haitian relief with GW.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:57:08pm |
re: #493 Escaped Hillbilly
No, worse, the one who has been playing it almost nonstop since.
oh don't worry then...
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avanti Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:57:34pm |
re: #492 wozzablog
*thanking Stanley Sea or Windsagio for my 1500th karma*
Crap, I should have thanked TFK for my minus 1500. :)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:58:12pm |
re: #495 avanti
I wouldn't trust Bill with my wife, but he'll do well with Haitian relief with GW.
haha true :D
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albusteve Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:58:15pm |
re: #491 WindUpBird
Bill Clinton has a thousand times the moral character, philandering and all, that Limbaugh does.
Clinton is trash and so is his wife...entertaining, and some clever politics but trailer trash non the less
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:59:42pm |
re: #500 albusteve
Clinton is trash and so is his wife...entertaining, and some clever politics but trailer trash non the less
hmmm trailers... they could probably use some of those in Haiti right about now.
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Stanghazi Thu, Jan 14, 2010 5:59:44pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:00:19pm |
re: #500 albusteve
Clinton is trash and so is his wife...entertaining, and some clever politics but trailer trash non the less
I'll take the trailer trash that's doing selfless acts like helping Haiti anyday. What does trailer trash even mean? That they grew up poor?
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:01:21pm |
re: #500 albusteve
Clinton is trash and so is his wife...entertaining, and some clever politics but trailer trash non the less
Hey, some of my best friends and most of my family live in trailers! Oh, wait. Nevermind.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:02:47pm |
re: #490 Decatur Deb
We're not talking about the sane.
Yeah, but the insane won't like anything he does anyway. I mean, name me something Obama could give money to that would please the wingnut fringe?
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:03:54pm |
re: #505 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah, but the insane won't like anything he does anyway. I mean, name me something Obama could give money to that would please the wingnut fringe?
Air Kenya.
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avanti Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:04:15pm |
re: #500 albusteve
Clinton is trash and so is his wife...entertaining, and some clever politics but trailer trash non the less
Sorry, had to down ding you for that. Trash their politics if you like, but they've dedicated their lives to serving their county. I disagreed with most of what GW did, but I still respected his love of country and would not call him trash.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:04:47pm |
re: #505 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah, but the insane won't like anything he does anyway. I mean, name me something Obama could give money to that would please the wingnut fringe?
Haiti.
| 509 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:05:54pm |
re: #435 Bubblehead II
Thanks for the updings. But there should of been a video attached to this message as well. Don Williams, Lord I hope This Day is good
Now I bid you all good night and weet dreams.
BTW, the right hand arrow seems to be a HTM flag. So to you guys, a fist bump.
Night.
/// Kenithth, yes, I did find the frequency..................................
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:06:03pm |
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:07:07pm |
re: #509 Bubblehead II
Thanks for the updings. But there should of been a video attached to this message as well. Don Williams, Lord I hope This Day is good
That song got me through one really long deployment a while back. Upding.Now I bid you all good night and weet dreams.
BTW, the right hand arrow seems to be a HTM flag. So to you guys, a fist bump.
Night.
/// Kenithth, yes, I did find the frequency...
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:07:17pm |
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avanti Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:09:00pm |
re: #508 brookly red
Haiti.
"Obama gives money to blacks in Haiti to appeal to his base in a bald faced political ploy, while white children go begging in the USA."
Rush, Beck, Hannity, or the like.( future quote if needed. )
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:09:19pm |
re: #500 albusteve
Sorry, Steve, but I had to downding you for that crack...while I didn't/don't particularly care for the Clintons' brand of Democrat politics, the "white trash" schtick is nothing more than a ploy to demean, diminish, and marginalize everything they've ever done, even outside of politics.
/bad form...
| 515 |
Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:13:11pm |
re: #514 talon_262
Yeah, but I think it was the "outside of politics" that he was judging since we were talking about the ethics of Rush vs Clinton et al. (IMO, in particular on the subject of prostitutes, Pres Clinton was a bit trashy.)
| 516 |
brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:13:24pm |
re: #513 avanti
"Obama gives money to blacks in Haiti to appeal to his base in a bald faced political ploy, while white children go begging in the USA."
Rush, Beck, Hannity, or the like.( future quote if needed. )
well so far the only money he has given is ours... not that I have a problem with it in fact 100M is only a drop in the bucket, but it would be a nice symbolic gesture if he donated his nobel prize money, don't you think?
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avanti Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:16:56pm |
re: #516 brookly red
well so far the only money he has given is ours... not that I have a problem with it in fact 100M is only a drop in the bucket, but it would be a nice symbolic gesture if he donated his nobel prize money, don't you think?
He already said he was donating the money to charity, just commenting on how the timing would appeal to the loons. I agree, I think it would be a wonderful gesture to give it to Haitian relief.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:17:01pm |
re: #516 brookly red
well so far the only money he has given is ours... not that I have a problem with it in fact 100M is only a drop in the bucket, but it would be a nice symbolic gesture if he donated his nobel prize money, don't you think?
I mean Rush did sell Harry Reid's letter to raise funds for the families of vets... maybe O could auction off some campaign memorabilia or something?
| 519 |
Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:22:17pm |
re: #518 brookly red
I dunno, I usually think its funny when rich people give their baubles up so poorer people can bid on it in order to support some favorite charity. Why not just give some of your own cash? But yes, I agree that would be nice. And probably the most rational and intellectually honest thing to do. The idiots would lambast him. Proper response...shut. up.
Silly aside, would giving the prize money be regifting?
| 520 |
TedStriker Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:25:19pm |
re: #516 brookly red
well so far the only money he has given is ours... not that I have a problem with it in fact 100M is only a drop in the bucket, but it would be a nice symbolic gesture if he donated his nobel prize money, don't you think?
Read above...President Obama is in a no-win situation in regards to the Nobel prize money. If he gives to the Haitian relief effort, the wingnuts are gonna scream bloody murder that he's playing politics with it; if he doesn't, he's being a cold-hearted bastard. No matter who he gives it to or what he does in this instance, the wingnuts (led by Fox News and Rush) are gonna do their best play a "gotcha" game with President Obama.
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BARACK THE VOTE Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:29:51pm |
re: #485 avanti
Rush had some experience in picking up hookers in Haiti ?/
heh. Just driving by and had to say that was my first reaction too. Also reminded me of this, an oldie but a goodie:
Rush Limbaugh Detained With Viagra
Rush Limbaugh could see a deal with prosecutors in a long-running prescription fraud case collapse after authorities found a bottle of Viagra in his bag at Palm Beach International Airport. The prescription was not in his name.Limbaugh was detained for more than three hours Monday at the airport after returning from a vacation in the Dominican Republic. Customs officials found the Viagra in his luggage but his name was not on the prescription, said Paul Miller, a spokesman for the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office.
Note: I am not suggesting that Rush was picking up prostitutes there, just making a joke.
As to the more serious point, the right did depart from sanity some time ago, and whatever Obama does with the Nobel money will no doubt be criticised (my suspicion is it will go to the least controversial cause possible, probably something having to do with children)-- just as anything he does w/r/t Haiti is already being criticised.
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Vambo Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:45:09pm |
Example #1280971092 that we are living in a Bizarro World version of the United States:
Pat Buchanan calls Rush Limbaugh "insensitive" to black people.
*head implodes*
| 523 |
brookly red Thu, Jan 14, 2010 6:45:52pm |
re: #520 talon_262
Read above...President Obama is in a no-win situation in regards to the Nobel prize money. If he gives to the Haitian relief effort, the wingnuts are gonna scream bloody murder that he's playing politics with it; if he doesn't, he's being a cold-hearted bastard. No matter who he gives it to or what he does in this instance, the wingnuts (led by Fox News and Rush) are gonna do their best play a "gotcha" game with President Obama.
well in your book I am probably a wingnut & I think he should give it up...
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 14, 2010 7:00:38pm |
re: #523 brookly red
well in your book I am probably a wingnut & I think he should give it up...
Well, I wasn't referring to you, but if the shoe fits, there's nothing I can say about this to dissuade you...
You know as well as I do that nothing President Obama does will satisfy/mollify the hardcore right-wing partisans (such as Rush)...the Nobel money "issue" is just a red herring.
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Vambo Thu, Jan 14, 2010 7:04:13pm |
in a way, it is Rush's job now to hate everything that Obama does.
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 7:09:40pm |
To anyone who would question anybody's motives..what would you say This family ?
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Escaped Hillbilly Thu, Jan 14, 2010 7:14:32pm |
Friends and neighbors braved aftershocks to climb over the rubble, one of hundreds of toppled structures teetering on the side of a ravine.
In a city full of people desperately waiting for more help than neighbors can muster, it never came for Haryssa.
Just hours after her screams renewed rescuers' hopes Thursday, the child's lifeless body was finally pulled from the mass of concrete and twisted metal. Wrapped in a green bath towel, it was placed inside a loose desk drawer. With nowhere to take it, the body was then left on the hood of a battered Isuzu Trooper.
And that weasly mouthed, Bible thumping Pat Robertson says this is because her ancestors made a pact with the devil. May the God you pretend to represent spare you from ever experiencing anything akin to this, Pat the rat.
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simoom Thu, Jan 14, 2010 7:35:07pm |
re: #523 brookly red
well in your book I am probably a wingnut & I think he should give it up...
I don't know about you specifically, but I'm happy to label RedState, Big Goverment and Rush wignuts on this issue. Instead of the praise Obama deserves for promising his substantial nobel award to charity, all he's getting are slimy insinuations (from the above sources) that he's doing something nefarious with the money, as well as the factually incorrect claim, designed to diminish his philanthropy, that US Code would have prevented him from keeping the money anyway.
See:
[Link: blogs.wsj.com...]
As far as which specific charities the President and his Wife decide to donate the money to, that's entirely up to them. If they don't decide to advertise their choices to the public (which I'm sure would be criticized as publicizing their charity for political gain) Erickson, Breitbart and Limbaugh will get to see which charities benefited when their next required personal financial disclosures come around. Until then they can take their suspicions and insinuations and go pound sand.
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Kruk Thu, Jan 14, 2010 8:28:38pm |
re: #135 Dragon_Lady
Now you know why I can't get insurance unless its with a company group plan. There isn't an insurance company out there that would touch me with a ten foot barge pole. I have way too many pre-existing conditions to ever be accepted by a private health care company. My old age is going to be interesting to be sure...
I feel for you. I have a pre-existing heart condition that I've had since I was 20 that I know of, and possibly earlier. (Nothing massive or even anything that's ever needed treatment, just enough to scare the insurers.) It's listed as a excluded pre-existing condition on my health insurance. The good news is that I have the public health system here as a fall back. I can choose to have private insurance for everything else while relying on the public system for anything to do with my heart. Having a heart condition that won't be covered by *anything*, though, would be absolutely terrifying.
On a related note, I find it ironic that people claim any restrictions on excluding pre-existing conditions or limits on premium differences (as in the current bill) would require the young and healthy to subsidise those who are older or have pre-existing conditions. That's exactly what happens in the company plans that form the bulk of Americans' health coverage.
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