“As scarce as the truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.”

-Henry Wheeler Shaw, Rocky Mountain News, June 5, 1980

re: #1 teleskiguy

“As scarce as the truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.”

-Henry Wheeler Shaw, Rocky Mountain News, June 5, 1980

Very true.

Good night, all.

LOST LGF exclusive:

The LGF Bagua page has explained the final episode and revealed the secret of the numbers.

4 8 15 16 23 42

It seems some people have way too much time on their hands. But then again, I’m just Lost about all of this.

And why I’m up at this hour is anyone’s guess.

G’nite kids. A quiet evening seems to be happening. See ya on the other side.

re: #3 Bagua

4 8 15 16 23 42

Are those the Lotto numbers for next week?

I’m gonna go join the Baguan cult.

re: #7 freetoken

Are those the Lotto numbers for next week?

They worked for Hurley.

re: #8 ralphieboy

I’m gonna go join the Baguan cult.

Namate!

Good Morning to Charles’ Private Reptilian Legion!

re: #11 rwdflynavy

Sorry, the sound is bad on that one.

Plebe Monument Climb Could Be on Its Last Legs

Full disclosure: I am not an Academy Grad (my parents were married), but this does seem to be a fairly nanny-state response. Not that all traditions are good, but for crying out loud.

re: #15 rwdflynavy

Naval officers who are not Academy Grads call Academy Grads “Bastards”?

That’s pretty funny.

re: #15 rwdflynavy

Plebe Monument Climb Could Be on Its Last Legs

Full disclosure: I am not an Academy Grad (my parents were married), but this does seem to be a fairly nanny-state response. Not that all traditions are good, but for crying out loud.

I agree with Admiral Fowler’s decision to tone this down, or degrease it anyway. It was an Aggie bonfire waiting to happen.

6.0 Earthquake, Mid-Atlantic Ridge.
about an hour ago (1009 UTC)

re: #15 rwdflynavy

Plebe Monument Climb Could Be on Its Last Legs

Full disclosure: I am not an Academy Grad (my parents were married), but this does seem to be a fairly nanny-state response. Not that all traditions are good, but for crying out loud.

Plebes frantically scaling a greased phallic symbol to grap the “officer’s hat” perched at its apex? Who needs Don’t Ask Don’t Tell!

A lot ofre: #15 rwdflynavy

Army/Navy/Air Force Cadets get injured in football also. Our country is making a huge investment in these potential officers, I think it is too risky.

And, also, the throwing the hat up in the air upon graduation? Someone could put their eye out.

NK/SK is heating up.

US is backing (gasp) SK.

re: #21 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

NK/SK is heating up.

US is backing (gasp) SK.

Put me down for $5

//

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel

I agree with Admiral Fowler’s decision to tone this down, or degrease it anyway. It was an Aggie bonfire waiting to happen.

Aggie Bonfire

So this pile of mids could catch on fire and kill 12 of them? That seems unlikely.//

I just can’t see folks being seriously injured, additionally, as others have stated, this is supposed to be a place to groom future leaders and warriors in the Navy and Marine Corps.

re: #22 SteveC

Put me down for $5

//

What do the North Korans have to lose? Their entire traffic infrastucture does not match downtown Seoul.

re: #22 SteveC

We (the US) have a long standing “Don’t assassinate another country’s leader”… can’t we suspend that? Just once?

Please?

Well, twice?

re: #16 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Naval officers who are not Academy Grads call Academy Grads “Bastards”?

That’s pretty funny.

Have to keep those ring-knockers in their place!!

re: #21 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

NK/SK is heating up.

US is backing (gasp) SK.

The US has submarines too ; )

re: #25 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We (the US) have a long standing “Don’t assassinate another country’s leader”… can’t we suspend that? Just once?

Please?

Well, twice?

I would change that to read “Don’t get caught when you assassinate another country’s leader.” - at least temporarily!

//What? Assassinate your leader? Us? Are you serious?

You can’t use my song!

David Byrne is suing the governor of Florida, accusing the state leader of using a Talking Heads song without permission. The 1985 single Road to Nowhere was allegedly part of Charlie Crist’s senatorial campaign, used on a website and in YouTube ads. Byrne is seeking $1m (£700,000) in damages.

Let him keep using it!

re: #29 SteveC

Damn Bastard

It was in the context of this research project that the Panel found that Dr Wakefield caused three of these young and vulnerable children, (nos. 3, 9 and 12) to undergo the invasive procedure of lumbar puncture when such investigation was for research purposes and was not clinically indicated.

WHOA!

re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

WHOA!

That sucks!
//

re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

WHOA!

Hard right, Mr. Sulu!

Seriously, it looks like the Finger of G-d writing the Ten Commandments in the movie The Ten Commandments

re: #23 rwdflynavy

Aggie Bonfire

So this pile of mids could catch on fire and kill 12 of them? That seems unlikely.//

I just can’t see folks being seriously injured, additionally, as others have stated, this is supposed to be a place to groom future leaders and warriors in the Navy and Marine Corps.

The bonfire hadn’t been lit yet at the time of the accident, so the aggies did not catch fire. I do in fact think there’s a good possibility of a young mid falling 20 feet or more, dragging a few others down with him, and the whole heap landing on the heads of their supportive comrades. If risky aerial feats have a role in preparing leaders, the Navy should revive sail training. Annapolis would need 6 or 7 ships the size of the USCGC Eagle. Imagine the spectacle, it would bring joy to the hearts of tall ship fans the world over.

Incidentally, I thought this talk of an Aggie “cult” was just a malicious exaggeration until the bonfire collapse. Then I heard any number of Aggies praise the dead students for having “sacrificed themselves for the Aggie spirit,” as though this Aggie spirit could somehow be advanced by the senseless deaths of a dozen young people. If that’s the case, there is something seriously wrong with it.
In a much less serious Aggie setback shortly afterward, that dog they worship, Revile or whatever the hell its name is, bit its handler. Aggies carried on about it for a month.

re: #35 Shiplord Kirel

The bonfire hadn’t been lit yet at the time of the accident, so the aggies did not catch fire. I do in fact think there’s a good possibility of a young mid falling 20 feet or more, dragging a few others down with him, and the whole heap landing on the heads of their supportive comrades. If risky aerial feats have a role in preparing leaders, the Navy should revive sail training. Annapolis would need 6 or 7 ships the size of the USCGC Eagle. Imagine the spectacle, it would bring joy to the hearts of tall ship fans the world over.

Incidentally, I thought this talk of an Aggie “cult” was just a malicious exaggeration until the bonfire collapse. Then I heard any number of Aggies praise the dead students for having “sacrificed themselves for the Aggie spirit,” as though this Aggie spirit could somehow be advanced by the senseless deaths of a dozen young people. If that’s the case, there is something seriously wrong with it.
In a much less serious Aggie setback shortly afterward, that dog they worship, Revile or whatever the hell its name is, bit its handler. Aggies carried on about it for a month.

How do you feel about college football? Too dangerous? I’d be willing to be more folks have been injured playing sports for the academy than getting hurt in this homo-erotic exercise.

re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ah crap… Artist’s rendering. Yahoo’s title had “First time phenomenon seen clearly”… well, no fucking wonder Yahoo! It’s a freaking artist’s rendering.

re: #37 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ah crap… Artist’s rendering. Yahoo’s title had “First time phenomenon seen clearly”… well, no fucking wonder Yahoo! It’s a freaking artist’s rendering.

Man, I knew Hubble was good but DAMN!!!
//

You could learn a few things from Antelopes

COLUMBUS, Ohio – Scientists have caught male topi antelopes in the act of faking fear in front of females in heat as a way to improve their chances of having sex.

The male antelopes, observed in southwest Kenya, send a false signal that a predator is nearby only when females in heat are in their territories. When the females react to the signal, they remain in the territory long enough for some males to fit in a quick mating opportunity.

“I’m scared too, darling! Let’s hold each other…”

re: #36 rwdflynavy

I don’t think it is fair to call everything like this a phallic/homo-erotic thing. Bunch of young men, climbing a huge lubricated erec…

Nevermind.

re: #40 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

*coffee from nose to display screen*

Good morning lizards!

Code Pink Protesters Dripping With Oil And Dead Fish Protest BP Houston HQ

re: #42 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

Good Morning!

re: #43 NJDhockeyfan

(obvious dead fish/code pink joke deleted)

re: #40 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don’t think it is fair to call everything like this a phallic/homo-erotic thing. Bunch of young men, climbing a huge lubricated erec…

Nevermind.

Hey, women are involved to.

re: #46 Jetpilot1101

Hey, women are involved to.

Oh! Then it’s cool.

Water gun fight prompts hazmat case, evacuations

WOONSOCKET, R.I. - What started out as an innocent squirt gun fight between children turned into a potentially dangerous situation for a Woonsocket neighborhood. Firefighters on Sunday responded to reports of a strong smell of ammonia in the basement of a Grove Street home. Investigators told WPRI-TV they found a smoking 7-gallon barrel of sodium hydroxide, prompting a hazardous materials team response and the evacuation of three homes.

Sodium hydroxide, commonly used to clear drains, reacts strongly with water, creating an odor and heat.

Investigators determined that water dripped into the barrel during a kids’ water gun fight in the basement.

re: #45 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

(obvious dead fish/code pink joke deleted)

The jokes write themselves with that group.

re: #36 rwdflynavy

How do you feel about college football? Too dangerous? I’d be willing to be more folks have been injured playing sports for the academy than getting hurt in this homo-erotic exercise.

I was foolish enough to actually play college football, so perhaps we should consult Annapolis grad Robert A. Heinlein for his opinion:

The sport with highest prestige was a thing called “foot ball”-and first classmen sized up each new group of victims for candidates who might be expected to excel, or learn to excel, in this organized mayhem. David had never seen it-but now he saw it and it filled his peaceful soul with horror.

As well it might. It involved two gangs of eleven men facing each other on a field and trying to move an ellipsoid bladder down the field against the opposition of the other gang. There were rituals and an esoteric terminology, but that was the idea.

It sounds harmless and rather foolish. Foolish it was, harmless it was not-as the rituals permitted the opposing gang to attack a man attempting to move the bladder in a variety of violent ways, the least of which was to grab him and cause him to hit the ground like a ton of brick. Often three or four bit him at once, and sometimes inflicted indignities and mayhems not permitted by the rituals but concealed by’ the pile of bodies.

Death was not supposed to result from this activity but sometimes did. Injuries short of death were commonplace.

Unfortunately David had the ideal physique for success in this “feet ball”-height, weight, eyesight, fleetness of foot, speed of reflex. He was certain to be spotted by the first classmen on their return from mock sea battles and “volunteered” as a sacrificial victim.

It was time for evasive action.

(Time Enough for Love)

Global Markets Are Tanking

Look at the right side of the link from Bloomberg.

Futures are down about 210 points right now. Looks like another ugly day for the stock market. Closing below 10K will be a huge mental blow. We could be headed much lower which is not good for anyone (except maybe Goldman Sachs but they’ll screw you no matter what).

Morning everyone. Of all the stupid things I did involving alcohol when I was younger, at least I never did vodka eyeball shots.

Darwin would be proud.

re: #52 Mad Al-Jaffee

I’d have to be pretty drunk already…

I’d have to be passed out with some very uncool friends.

re: #51 Jetpilot1101

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk…]

re: #51 Jetpilot1101

I wish I was smart enough to be Goldman Sachs.

Either way? I’m the winner!

The job of a company’s management is to make the playing field as un-level as it can.

And good morning Honcos.

re: #54 Cannadian Club Akbar

Great article, there ismuch more pain ahead in spite of what the feds say. The “green shoots” are starting to die.

re: #55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Everyone is in a tizzy about how Blankfein didn’t show up to GM’s IPO. While I can’t stand this man or his company, he’s the intelligent one. Who wants to underwrite an IPO by a government owned bankrupt company that is wholly subservient to their unions. Blankfein is right not to touch this with a ten foot pole. Guy may be a crook but he’s no moron.

Tie/Work/Bye.

NOT A FLOUNCE!

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel

Swine God worshipers looking for another sacrificial victim…

;)

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel

My only athletic ability is smack talk.

Morning, Lizards!

Some interesting reading (well, IMO anyway) is in our future:

First volume of Mark Twain’s memoirs to be published

This November, in what is sure to be a landmark literary event, the University of California Press will publish volume 1 of Mark Twain’s autobiography (volumes 2 and 3 are to come at later dates).Twain himself gave the university some 5,000 pages but stipulated that the work had to remain unpublished until the 100th anniversary of his death, so the manuscript has been languishing in the vault all this time — available to scholars (who have been able to use the work for their own Twain biographies) but no one else. On its website, UCP says that “the strict instruction that these texts remain unpublished for 100 years meant that when they came out, he would be ‘dead, and unaware, and indifferent’ and therefore free to speak his ‘whole frank mind.’”

Heh.
[Link: www.nydailynews.com…]

re: #57 Jetpilot1101

Lots of red showing in the foreign stock exchanges…

re: #43 NJDhockeyfan

Code Pink Protesters Cover Themselves With Oil And Dead Fish, Remain Irrelevant While Doing So

FTFY.

re: #24 ralphieboy

What do the North Korans have to lose? Their entire traffic infrastucture does not match downtown Seoul.

Freudian slip?
Good Morning LGF.

Did anyone else watch the 24 finale? Pretty good, but kind of anti-climactic. And the dumbass ex-president was so incompetent, he couldn’t even kill himself properly.

re: #51 Jetpilot1101

The investment houses make money even on down days. It’s all about the volume - more shares traded, the more money they make. The Goldman Sachs of the world only lose money when trading volume drops. They love volatility because it keeps the volume up.

re: #63 Taqyia2Me

Lots of red showing in the foreign stock exchanges…

The debt crisis is far from over and the remaining PIIGS (Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece and Spain) still haven’t been addressed. I’m not optimisitic about the global economy for the foreseeable future. The recovery that has been trumpeted has not come to fruition and with the stock market looking like it’s about to head south for the summer, I think things are going to get worse before they get better.

re: #67 lawhawk

Excellent point. MM’s are going to make money no matter what. ‘m sure the big brokerage houses will short the market all the way down, cover, then turn around and go long again. Us retail folks will get stuck holding the bag again.

When is a secret policy not a secret? When it gets published in the NYT. The more things change, the more they stay the same and it doesn’t matter what Administration we’re talking about.

The Obama Administration and Gen. Petraeus had ordered a broad expansion of clandestine military activity in an effort to disrupt militant groups or counter threats in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Somalia and other countries in the region, according to defense officials and military documents.

Note the word clandestine. That means covert, secret, and otherwise not to be broadcast to the general public.

So, what does the Times do? You got it. They published it, based on their sources.

Once again, the Times thinks that its job is to determine the national security policy of the US and that they are the final arbiter of what is necessarily secret and what isn’t.

I will say that this does give me a better feeling about the Administration’s counter-terror operations that they were letting the DoD take on covert ops in the Middle East, although my confidence in the Administration’s actual knowledge of ME policy - particularly the operation of terror groups like Hizbullah, Hamas, and the ME peace process leave me scratching my head as if they’ve never heard of Bernard Lewis, or read anything other than the diplomatic releases that engage in pseudoreality on a regular basis.

So, here’s the deal:
My wife is in Mexico with a group of her gal-pals.
My son is in Paris visiting his GF who is studying there for several months.

Me? I got dental surgery today.

How did I end up with the short straw?!

Good Morning everyone - looks like real fear is gripping the global markets.

“We’re on an express elevator going down!”

Customer stuck with counterfeit money from the post office

A business inadvertently gives you counterfeit money — are you stuck with it? In most cases, yes. But what if that business happens to be a branch of the federal government?

Los Angeles resident David Lipin found himself asking this question the other day after he cashed a $1,000 Postal Service money order at a West Hollywood post office.

He said the postal worker handed him 10 $20 bills and eight $100 bills.

Lipin, 43, said he then stopped at a nearby gas station to fill his tank. He tried to pay with one of his new $100 bills.

“The clerk took a close look at it and said it was fake,” Lipin told me. “Then she looked at some of the other $100 bills. She said they were fake too, and she called the police.”

Alarmed, Lipin phoned a lawyer friend. At his friend’s urging, he too called the Los Angeles Police Department to report that he’d been given bogus bills. “I wanted it very clear that I was a victim and not someone trying to pawn off some counterfeit dollars,” Lipin said.

The cops arrived at the gas station and inspected the cash. They shook their heads.

“The police said the $100 bills were actually $5 bills that had been bleached and altered,” Lipin recalled. “They showed me how you could hold them up to the light and see Abraham Lincoln’s face. All eight turned out to be counterfeit.”

So now what? The police took a report but said they couldn’t do anything. They suggested that Lipin try the L.A. County Sheriff’s Department, which serves West Hollywood.

A sheriff’s deputy also said they couldn’t do much and suggested he try the Secret Service. So did the post office when Lipin returned to the same branch that had given him the funny money.

re: #70 lawhawk

When is a secret policy not a secret? When it gets published in the NYT. The more things change, the more they stay the same and it doesn’t matter what Administration we’re talking about.

The Obama Administration and Gen. Petraeus had ordered a broad expansion of clandestine military activity in an effort to disrupt militant groups or counter threats in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Somalia and other countries in the region, according to defense officials and military documents.

Note the word clandestine. That means covert, secret, and otherwise not to be broadcast to the general public.

So, what does the Times do? You got it. They published it, based on their sources.

Once again, the Times thinks that its job is to determine the national security policy of the US and that they are the final arbiter of what is necessarily secret and what isn’t.

I will say that this does give me a better feeling about the Administration’s counter-terror operations that they were letting the DoD take on covert ops in the Middle East, although my confidence in the Administration’s actual knowledge of ME policy - particularly the operation of terror groups like Hizbullah, Hamas, and the ME peace process leave me scratching my head as if they’ve never heard of Bernard Lewis, or read anything other than the diplomatic releases that engage in pseudoreality on a regular basis.

Hell, it’s not just the NYT - but I like seeing them get bashed as wel.
The bigger issue I have is whoever the tard/traitor/asswipe that’s talking about this to anyone.

Hey … Who’s the dude sitting atop the leaderboard for “Top 10 Comments?” Is he new around here?

Congress is moving swiftly on the Gulf oil spill….they plan on quadrupling the gas tax.

WASHINGTON — Responding to the massive BP oil spill, Congress is getting ready to quadruple - to 32 cents a barrel - a tax on oil used to help finance cleanups. The increase would raise nearly $11 billion over the next decade.

The tax is levied on oil produced in the U.S. or imported from foreign countries. The revenue goes to a fund managed by the Coast Guard to help pay to clean up spills in waterways, such as the Gulf of Mexico.

The tax increase is part of a larger bill that has grown into a nearly $200 billion grab bag of unfinished business that lawmakers hope to complete before Memorial Day. The key provisions are a one-year extension of about 50 popular tax breaks that expired at the end of last year, and expanded unemployment benefits, including subsidies for health insurance, through the end of the year.

The House could vote on the bill as early as Wednesday, though Democrats were still working Monday to round up the votes. Democratic leaders had wanted to hold a vote Tuesday.

There has been little public opposition to the oil tax from the petroleum industry. But the overall bill would add about $134 billion to the federal budget deficit, drawing opposition from Republicans and some Democrats.

I thought BP is supposed to pay for everything.

re: #61 Lidane

Morning, Lizards!

Some interesting reading (well, IMO anyway) is in our future:

First volume of Mark Twain’s memoirs to be published

I am very excited about this. I have read several biographies on this great American writer. I look forward to reading his own words. People had better not be expecting Victorian blandness from this man. I think he will blow folks’ hair back.

re: #72 NJDhockeyfan

Customer stuck with counterfeit money from the post office

with the way we are printing money right now, i think our own govt may be the biggest offender.

Congrats to Mandy and Cato, who both have comments in the Top 3 right now. It’s nice to see the “older school” lizards back atop the leaderboard.

CNBC is reporting that floor brokers on the NYSE are having technical problems in the links to their handheld trading devices.

That’s one way to halt a crash ;)

re: #79 Ericus58

CNBC is reporting that floor brokers on the NYSE are having technical problems in the links to their handheld trading devices.

That’s one way to halt a crash ;)

I am still NOT gonna f’ing buy gold

re: #79 Ericus58

Except that much of the daily volume on the NYSE is actually done electronically these days and any problems will go around the floor.

In fact, that’s one of the situations occurring with the major crash a few weeks back - even as the NYSE floor engaged in a temporary halt on certain stocks to figure out what happened, other exchanges went ahead with trades based on the faulty figures.

re: #78 _RememberTonyC

Congrats to Mandy and Cato, who both have comments in the Top 3 right now. It’s nice to see the “older school” lizards back atop the leaderboard.

SHAMELESS PROMOTION
You just posted that so we would all go loomand notice that in fact that it’s YOU atop the chart!!
//

re: #80 _RememberTonyC

Gold is so 20th century. The real money is in palladium, platinum, and the lanthanides.

re: #82 sattv4u2

SHAMELESS PROMOTION
You just posted that so we would all go loomand LOOK AND notice that in fact that it’s YOU atop the chart!!
//

pimf

re: #83 lawhawk

Gold is so 20th century. The real money is in palladium, platinum, and the lanthanides.

Don’t forget Barack Obama commemorative china!

re: #80 _RememberTonyC

I am still NOT gonna f’ing buy gold

Well, compared to the overall market, gold is only down .35% atm.

BUY GOLD!!!11!!!

re: #83 lawhawk

Agreed. Palladium is critical to emerging energy technologies. The affinity for hydrogen, catalyst, yet suitable for jewelry…

re: #86 Ericus58

Want to buy gold? Get a license and throw gold parties. Pay $10 a gram for 14kt. Refiner pays $21 per gram. You own it for half price.

OT: It looks like DADT is about to be repealed.

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

re: #88 Rightwingconspirator

Want to buy gold? Get a license and throw gold parties. Pay $10 a gram for 14kt. Refiner pays $21 per gram. You own it for half price.

I don;t have time

Mondays is our Tupperware Parties
Tuesdays is our Jewlery Parties
Wednesdays are our Candle Parties
Thursdays are our AMWAY Parties
Fridays are our “Adult Item” Parties

The week is full!!

Good morning everyone. We’re expecting mid 80’s temps today. Summer is closing-in. My beautiful daughter invited my to visit for Father’s Day so thinking seriously of either driving or flying to CA’s wine country. We should all have such a dilemma.

re: #90 sattv4u2
LOL!
You could host the world’s first reality infomercial!

re: #89 garhighway

OT: It looks like DADT is about to be repealed.

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

the policy cannot not change until after Dec. 1, when the Pentagon completes a review of its readiness to deal with the changes.

re: #91 Semper Fi

Good morning everyone. We’re expecting mid 80’s temps today. Summer is closing-in. My beautiful daughter invited my to visit for Father’s Day so thinking seriously of either driving or flying to CA’s wine country. We should all have such a dilemma.

Which dilemma is that

Having to drive/ fly to CA’s wine country
or having a beautiful daughter!?!?!

//

Speaking of news

In just over 2 months the SATTY home will have another mouth to feed

No,,, we’re not having a baby (God forbid ,,,I’m 56)

This one will be coming with a full set of teeth and a teenage boy sized appetite

We’re taking in a high school exchange student

re: #95 sattv4u2

Speaking of news

In just over 2 months the SATTY home will have another mouth to feed

No,,, we’re not having a baby (God forbid ,,,I’m 56)

This one will be coming with a full set of teeth and a teenage boy sized appetite

We’re taking in a high school exchange student

What are you exchanging him for?

re: #96 NJDhockeyfan

What are you exchanging him for?

See the discussion above,, a Barack Obama commemorative china set

re: #82 sattv4u2

SHAMELESS PROMOTION
You just posted that so we would all go loomand notice that in fact that it’s YOU atop the chart!!
//

BRING IT BITCH!
/
make my day … ding me down and put me in second place.

re: #95 sattv4u2

I was a foreign exchange student in high school…good fun…then again, I got to go to the Fiji Islands.

re: #83 lawhawk

Gold is so 20th century. The real money is in palladium, platinum, and the lanthanides.

kind of a “paleoeconomic system?

The next “Mugabe”?

Controversial Julius Malema defends his actions

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk…]

“The leader of South Africa’s ANC Youth League, Julius Malema, landed himself in serious trouble when he refused to stop singing the controversial struggle song “Kill the Boer”.

Many blamed the song for the murder of white supremacist Eugene Terreblanche and Mr Malema’s continued defiance led to disciplinary action against him by the ruling ANC.”

South Africa’s Julius Malema defends his radical views

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk…]

“When it was put to him that by seeking to compare himself to Nelson Mandela, he caused offence to many, he replied: “You know nothing about Nelson Mandela.”

The 29-year-old youth leader did say he might stop singing the inflammatory phrase “kill the boer” from an old liberation song, boer meaning a white farmer.

But he added that South Africa’s economy remained racially divided.

“I am fighting for the emancipation of blacks and Africans in particular, politically, socially and economically,” he said.

“There are racial divisions in this country and the economy continues to grow but the gap between the haves and have-nots continues to grow. It’s racialised.”

Asked what he thought of Zimbabwe’s land redistribution policy under Robert Mugabe, he described it as “very good except the violent part of it”. “

Sure… that’s why he repeats a song about killing white farmers.

re: #98 _RememberTonyC

BRING IT BITCH!
/
make my day … ding me down and put me in second place.

naahh ,,,too depressed to ding anyone down after last nights game

HEYWAITAMINUTE,,,Is that the game YOU went too?? IT’S ALL YOUR FAULT!!

re: #90 sattv4u2

I don;t have time

Mondays is our Tupperware Parties
Tuesdays is our Jewlery Parties
Wednesdays are our Candle Parties
Thursdays are our AMWAY Parties
Fridays are our “Adult Item” Parties

The week is full!!

you need to party more …. seriously

re: #94 sattv4u2

Which dilemma is that

Having to drive/ fly to CA’s wine country
or having a beautiful daughter!?!?!

//

*Smile* Hadn’t thought of it that way. Must admit my thinking was homing-in on the wine country. *smile a little more* I can say there were many dilemma’s when she was a teenager though.

re: #99 darthstar

I was a foreign exchange student in high school…good fun…then again, I got to go to the Fiji Islands.

Cool ,, there were no Fijians on the list. We’ll be getting a 16-17 year old boy from Europe, most likely Germany. The final determination won’t be made for another month or so

re: #95 sattv4u2

Speaking of news

In just over 2 months the SATTY home will have another mouth to feed

No,,, we’re not having a baby (God forbid ,,,I’m 56)

This one will be coming with a full set of teeth and a teenage boy sized appetite

We’re taking in a high school exchange student

Keep him away from those perv preachers down yonder …

re: #103 _RememberTonyC

you need to party more … seriously

Whaddya think Saturday and Sunday nights are open for !?!?!

The Lower Manhattan mosque insanity continues….

A Tea Party flamethrower blasted Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer Monday as a “Jewish Uncle Tom” for supporting a proposed mosque near Ground Zero.

Mark Williams, chairman of the Tea Party Express, took to his blog to spew hate at Stringer after the politician compared him to Adolf Hitler at a press conference last week.

Williams countered that Stringer is a “sniviling [sic] worm” and “a Jewish Uncle Tom who would have turned rat on Anne Frank.”

Stringer vowed not to back down from “a thug” like Williams and expressed surprise that the Tea Party hasn’t booted him.

As I said when I reported on this a few weeks back, the mosque is likely to get community board approval, and thereafter will likely get City Council approval. The site is a few blocks from Ground Zero and would be an expansion of an already existing mosque in Tribeca and the hope is that it would be the Muslim equivalent to the 92nd Street Y or the JCC of Manhattan, each of which operates significant community programming. Lower Manhattan is sorely lacking on that ground.

re: #102 sattv4u2

naahh ,,,too depressed to ding anyone down after last nights game

HEYWAITAMINUTE,,,Is that the game YOU went too?? IT’S ALL YOUR FAULT!!

don’t blame me, I was there Saturday night. all our guys got it wrong
last night …. even Magic was doing the sweeping motion in the pregame. Rondo was bad last night and the best player on the court was Howard. When the best player on the court that night is playing for your team, you usually win.

re: #98 _RememberTonyC

BRING IT BITCH!
/
make my day … ding me down and put me in second place.

Hey…I want to own a Canadian.

re: #106 _RememberTonyC

Keep him away from those perv preachers down yonder …

heh,, it’s a cool program. They asked us if we do parctice a religion and which one, so they will be choosing a practicing Catholic. Also, in that my son goes to a private high school the students family will also have the financial wherewhithal to cover his tuition and school expenses so that he won’t be going to a different (public) school than my son. He may end up being a year behind or a year ahead, but within the same age range (my son will be a junior)

re: #95 sattv4u2

wow that’s cool

re: #108 lawhawk

The Lower Manhattan mosque insanity continues…

As I said when I reported on this a few weeks back, the mosque is likely to get community board approval, and thereafter will likely get City Council approval. The site is a few blocks from Ground Zero and would be an expansion of an already existing mosque in Tribeca and the hope is that it would be the Muslim equivalent to the 92nd Street Y or the JCC of Manhattan, each of which operates significant community programming. Lower Manhattan is sorely lacking on that ground.

check out this piece from yesterday’s NY Post …

[Link: www.nypost.com…]

GOP tries to upend NC campaign backed by tea party

Republican officials are working to derail the campaign of a tea party supported candidate in North Carolina — circulating documents from the man’s messy divorce that depict him as a pot smoker who has called himself the messiah.
,,,,
In Hoke County divorce records, his wife said in 1995 that D’Annunzio had claimed to be the Messiah, had traveled to New Jersey to raise his stepfather from the dead, believed God would drop a 1,000-mile high pyramid as the New Jerusalem on Greenland and found the Ark of the Covenant in Arizona. A doctor’s evaluation the following month said D’Annunzio used marijuana almost daily, had been living with another woman for several months, had once been in drug treatment for heroin dependence and was jailed a couple times as a teenager.

The doctor concluded that his religious beliefs were not delusional. A judge wrote in a child support ruling a few years later that D’Annunzio was a self-described “religious zealot” who believed the government was the “Antichrist.” The judge said he was willfully failing to make child support payments.

A Democratic senator is introducing legislation for a bailout of troubled union pension funds. If passed, the bill could put another $165 billion in liabilities on the shoulders of American taxpayers.
[Link: www.foxbusiness.com…]

“no more bailouts!”

Democratic lawmakers in California unveiled a plan on Monday for nearly $5 billion of tax and fee increases to help fill the state government’s $19.1 billion budget gap.
[Link: www.reuters.com…]

Recovery!

re: #112 cliffster

wow that’s cool

Yeah ,,, now comes the scary part

Having me, my wife and son act like a “normal, happy family” for 9 months straight !!!!

//

re: #111 sattv4u2

heh,, it’s a cool program. They asked us if we do parctice a religion and which one, so they will be choosing a practicing Catholic. Also, in that my son goes to a private high school the students family will also have the financial wherewhithal to cover his tuition and school expenses so that he won’t be going to a different (public) school than my son. He may end up being a year behind or a year ahead, but within the same age range (my son will be a junior)

Good times ….. sounds like a great experience

re: #116 sattv4u2

Where’s he from? Spain? Bulgaria? California?

re: #114 Killgore Trout

Republican officials are working to derail the campaign of a tea party supported candidate in North Carolina

but,, But ,, BUT ,, YOU’Ve always told us that the Tea Party OWNS th repubs

but,,, But ,, BUT,, the repub establishement was NOT supportive of Rand Paul

I’M SO CONFUSED

re: #113 _RememberTonyC

The site being built upon isn’t in Ground Zero, but several blocks away. Just how far away is far enough? I’ve been ambivalent over whether this project should go forward; I know the building and that block has been blighted since the attack. The Community Board seems to have a good read on this - and that’s including the opposition heard at their recent meetings.

re: #108 lawhawk

The Lower Manhattan mosque insanity continues…

As I said when I reported on this a few weeks back, the mosque is likely to get community board approval, and thereafter will likely get City Council approval. The site is a few blocks from Ground Zero and would be an expansion of an already existing mosque in Tribeca and the hope is that it would be the Muslim equivalent to the 92nd Street Y or the JCC of Manhattan, each of which operates significant community programming. Lower Manhattan is sorely lacking on that ground.

Not so fast. There seems to be a problem for the mosque plans….

Possible Landmark May Halt Ground Zero Mosque

Opponents of a mosque planned near Ground Zero may be getting some unexpected help from the City.

The building at 45 Park Place was constructed in 1857 in the Italian Renaissance style and was one of dozens in the Tribeca neighborhood proposed as landmarks in the 1980s.

It was damaged by debris in the September 11 attacks, and now an Islamic organization would like to tear it down to make room for a $100 million, 13-story mosque and cultural center just three blocks from the World Trade Center site.

The City Landmarks Preservation Commission will decide if the building is too historically and architecturally significant to raze.

re: #118 cliffster

Where’s he from? Spain? Bulgaria? California?

The final decision hasn’t yet been made, but definitly Europe, most likey Germany, but could be Czech Republic or Austria

re: #119 sattv4u2

Republican officials are working to derail the campaign of a tea party supported candidate in North Carolina

but,, But ,, BUT ,, YOU’Ve always told us that the Tea Party OWNS th repubs

but,,, But ,, BUT,, the repub establishement was NOT supportive of Rand Paul

I’M SO CONFUSED

It’s a complicated narrative

Slightly OT

Breaking news in Portland, Or
for what it is worth.

[Link: www.oregonlive.com…]

Canadian gun dealer who obtained weapons in McMinnville arrested after feds find ammo
By The Associated Press
May 20, 2010, 7:47PMFederal agents have arrested a Canadian gun dealer who kept a stash of sniper rifles and ammunition at a Washington storage unit near the U.S. northern border.

The man had recently picked up four weapons and 480 rounds of .50-caliber ammunition from a gun shop in McMinnville.

Oliver King — who also uses his given name, Hamid Malekpour — was arrested Wednesday in Ferndale, which is about 10 miles south of the Canadian border.

He made an initial appearance today at U.S. District Court in Seattle on charges of making false statements to a government agency and being an alien in possession of firearms.

A hearing was set for next Wednesday to determine whether he should continue to be detained pending trial. According to a complaint filed in U.S. District Court in Seattle, he entered the U.S. at Blaine the previous night and lied when he said he was going to pick up his wife at a Bellingham mall.

The Iranian native also lied about why he had a new Canadian passport just issued that morning, the complaint said. He told border guards that his old one had gone through the wash, but agents found it during a secondary inspection — with no water damage. The old one, which was not set to expire until 2013, had been canceled, but it was not immediately clear why.

It had three visas for Iran, two issued last year and one issued this year. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents tailed King as he left the border crossing. He drove to McMinnville, where he went to a gun shop and loaded his car with the guns and high-caliber ammunition. Agents say he then drove north to the Ferndale storage unit, where he had $30,000 worth of sniper rifles, handguns and ammo.

When asked about the weapons in his car, King said he was a hunter, according to the complaint.

Amir Zarandi, who owns McMinnville Hunting and Police Supplies, said King is a consultant and has bought weapons there for years. Zarandi said King also manufactures ammunition, is well known in the business and “doesn’t do anything illegal.” “He’s a good person,” Zarandi said. “I’m sure this is just a technicality sort of thing.”

According to the complaint, King was a licensed firearms dealer in Canada under his other name. The license was temporarily suspended when the Canadian government discovered he was selling guns over the Internet, but apparently the license has been “recovered” and may be valid.

— The Associated Press

re: #120 lawhawk

The site being built upon isn’t in Ground Zero, but several blocks away. Just how far away is far enough? I’ve been ambivalent over whether this project should go forward; I know the building and that block has been blighted since the attack. The Community Board seems to have a good read on this - and that’s including the opposition heard at their recent meetings.

Agree. This is a decision best left to the local community, not the hate-mongers at the NY Post.

re: #124 steve

Interesting….
didn’t catch this in the Seattle papers…

re: #118 cliffster

Where’s he from? Spain? Bulgaria? California?

I was hoping for a 21 year old Brazilian Bikini Model female, but Mrs SATTY seemd to have an issue with that

re: #119 sattv4u2

Republican officials are working to derail the campaign of a tea party supported candidate in North Carolina

but,, But ,, BUT ,, YOU’Ve always told us that the Tea Party OWNS th repubs

but,,, But ,, BUT,, the repub establishement was NOT supportive of Rand Paul

I’M SO CONFUSED

That’s part of the problem. These dangerous lunatics are very difficult to get rid off now that the GOP has been pandering to them for so long. We’ll see how this plays out but the GOP may not be able to stop this nut and many others like him.

re: #70 lawhawk

When is a secret policy not a secret? When it gets published in the NYT. The more things change, the more they stay the same and it doesn’t matter what Administration we’re talking about.

The Obama Administration and Gen. Petraeus had ordered a broad expansion of clandestine military activity in an effort to disrupt militant groups or counter threats in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Somalia and other countries in the region, according to defense officials and military documents.

Note the word clandestine. That means covert, secret, and otherwise not to be broadcast to the general public.

So, what does the Times do? You got it. They published it, based on their sources.

Once again, the Times thinks that its job is to determine the national security policy of the US and that they are the final arbiter of what is necessarily secret and what isn’t.

I will say that this does give me a better feeling about the Administration’s counter-terror operations that they were letting the DoD take on covert ops in the Middle East, although my confidence in the Administration’s actual knowledge of ME policy - particularly the operation of terror groups like Hizbullah, Hamas, and the ME peace process leave me scratching my head as if they’ve never heard of Bernard Lewis, or read anything other than the diplomatic releases that engage in pseudoreality on a regular basis.

Administrations change, the NYT is still can’t support its own country. Assholes.

re: #125 garhighway

Agree. This is a decision best left to the local community, not the hate-mongers at the NY Post.

Are you saying the author of the editorial _RememberTonyC posted is a hate-monger?

re: #126 Ericus58

The article is dated the 20th but it is hitting the local stations today. Makes you wonder what else is going on.

The store in Mcminnville was closed most of the time and a realty office down the hall has been signing for packages that were delivered. Owner of the realty office is not talking to the media.

re: #128 Killgore Trout

That’s part of the problem. These dangerous lunatics are very difficult to get rid off now that the GOP has been pandering to them for so long. We’ll see how this plays out but the GOP may not be able to stop this nut and many others like him.

Not being snarky, but i’m sure you had similar concerns with Soros groups saying they “owned” the dems last 2 election cycles

Obama White House probe of Obama White House finds no Obama White House impropriety on Sestak

Looks like that’s settled. Time to move on now. No formal investigation needed, The WH already did it.

re: #121 NJDhockeyfan

Hopefully, it is designated a landmark and repaired. That mosque project smacked of Islamic cultural imperialism. It’s often cited when it does not exist, but it exists in this case.

re: #130 NJDhockeyfan

Are you saying the author of the editorial _RememberTonyC posted is a hate-monger?

I’m saying that the NY Post is a despicable piece of shit.

decisions decisons decisions

A) shower, go do errands, come back and do yard/ house work
B) go do yard/ house work, then shower and go do errands
C) grab another coffee, sit here in jammies and chat

re: #121 NJDhockeyfan

That might limit the alterations to the exterior, but wont stop plans altogether. They can alter the interiors, and the LPC has signed off on alterations to other historically significant buildings in the City, including the Edward Durell Stone designed building at 2 Columbus Circle that was known for its marble facing, although the LPC did end up killing a plan that would have saved St. Vincent’s Hospital when they wanted to demolish and/or alter several buildings in Greenwich Village.

re: #125 garhighway

Agree. This is a decision best left to the local community, not the hate-mongers at the NY Post.

Are you saying that those who are not thrilled with a mosque being built there (am I correct in thinking there are two projects?) are also hate-mongers?

I haven’t seen calls for not allowing Islam being practiced. Rather the building of new mosques and how many in the vicinity of ground zero.

Yes, the decision should be left to those who live there and the local government.

Austinites Demonstrate Against Nothing in Particular

What a great place to live

re: #124 steve

He said he was a hunter? In May? Carrying .50 caliber ammunition? What the fuck was he hunting? Sasquatch?

re: #130 NJDhockeyfan

Are you saying the author of the editorial _RememberTonyC posted is a hate-monger?

The NY Post has been awful for several years now. The OpEd pages especially— they read like Ed Anger from the Weekly World News.

re: #135 garhighway

I’m saying that the NY Post is a despicable piece of shit.

Precisely.

re: #120 lawhawk

The site being built upon isn’t in Ground Zero, but several blocks away. Just how far away is far enough? I’ve been ambivalent over whether this project should go forward; I know the building and that block has been blighted since the attack. The Community Board seems to have a good read on this - and that’s including the opposition heard at their recent meetings.

if it is to be built, i’m sure it will be under constant scrutiny by the neighbors … for that reason alone, they should build it somewhere else. unless they’re looking to provoke some sort of confrontation?!

re: #139 cliffster

Austinites Demonstrate Against Nothing in Particular

What a great place to live

Refugees from Eeyore’s Birthday, perhaps. #2 Daughter’s little friend won Best Costume this year.

re: #140 darthstar

He said he was a hunter? In May? Carrying .50 caliber ammunition? What the fuck was he hunting? Sasquatch?

Giant Rabbits

re: #140 darthstar

He said he was a hunter? In May? Carrying .50 caliber ammunition? What the fuck was he hunting? Sasquatch?

Sasquatch are extinct.

Everything that he has told the authorities was lies.

re: #139 cliffster

Austinites Demonstrate Against Nothing in Particular

What a great place to live

Ha! That’s the first I’ve heard of it. Sounds about right for this place. :D

re: #143 Guanxi88

Refugees from Eeyore’s Birthday, perhaps. #2 Daughter’s little friend won Best Costume this year.

Really?? Wow, that’s impressive. I personally haven’t been in years.

re: #139 cliffster

Austinites Demonstrate Against Nothing in Particular

What a great place to live

We’re not gonna protest!
WE’RE NOT GONNA PROTEST!
Gutter is a tool!
GUTTER IS A TOOL!

re: #139 cliffster

Austinites Demonstrate Against Nothing in Particular

What a great place to live

Whatta buncha RADICALS

Imagine not being PISSED about something
Imagine being happy and content
why,, Why ,, Thats down right Un-American !!!

//

re: #135 garhighway

I’m saying that the NY Post is a despicable piece of shit.

What does that have to do with the article Tony posted? Do you have an opinion on that?

re: #147 cliffster

Really?? Wow, that’s impressive. I personally haven’t been in years.

She showed up in her little dance costume - she’s about 4 years old, and was a bumblebee - and she’s a dead-ringer for that pudgy little bee-girl from that ‘90’s video the name and band of which elude me.

re: #143 Guanxi88

Refugees from Eeyore’s Birthday, perhaps.

“It’s snowing still,” said Eeyore gloomily.
“So it is.”
“And freezing.”
“Is it?”
“Yes,” said Eeyore. “However,” he said, brightening up a little, “we haven’t had an earthquake lately.”

re: #141 iceweasel

Precisely.

very closedminded of you to agree with that. the NY Post, while not perfect has many good things in it. this is still America, where you get to have opposing viewpoints.

re: #151 Guanxi88

She showed up in her little dance costume - she’s about 4 years old, and was a bumblebee - and she’s a dead-ringer for that pudgy little bee-girl from that ‘90’s video the name and band of which elude me.

Blind Melon?

re: #125 garhighway

You do realize that it isn’t just the Post op-eds that are opposed to this right? I work a block from Ground Zero and know the area quite well. There is opposition to the mosque because of its location several blocks from Ground Zero and how it has presented its proposal. There are questions over its financing, although I have seen that some of the financing is coming from the Ford Foundation and Rockefeller Brothers Fund

re: #148 Locker

We’re not gonna protest!
WE’RE NOT GONNA PROTEST!
Gutter is a tool!
GUTTER IS A TOOL!

Rah, Rah Ree!
kick ‘em in the knee!

Rah, Rah, Rass!
Kick ‘em in the other knee!

re: #145 steve

Sasquatch are extinct.

Everything that he has told the authorities was lies.

And that is what raised my eyebrows.

re: #154 cliffster

Blind Melon?

Yes, I think that’s the one. Pudgy little ape she is, with the thick black glasses.

re: #139 cliffster

Austinites Demonstrate Against Nothing in Particular

What a great place to live

Fucking felicitous freaks.

re: #148 Locker

We’re not gonna protest!
WE’RE NOT GONNA PROTEST!
Gutter is a tool!
GUTTER IS A TOOL!

Wow, that’s digging deep. Well played

re: #153 _RememberTonyC

very closedminded of you to agree with that. the NY Post, while not perfect has many good things in it. this is still America, where you get to have opposing viewpoints.

for now!!

///

I KID ,,It;s the same thing the lefties were saying in the early 90’s ,, LIGHTEN UP EVERYONE!!

re: #143 Guanxi88

Refugees from Eeyore’s Birthday, perhaps.

Ah, Eeyore’s Birthday. I didn’t get to go this year, but I’ve gone in the past and had fun.

You know what I miss? Spamarama. It was completely silly, but still a hoot. I wish they’d do it again.

re: #159 MandyManners

Fucking felicitous freaks.

Ya know, I always dug the vibe of this place, and, now that I no longer have to be governed by the likes of them, I enjoy it even more.

re: #162 Lidane

Ah, Eeyore’s Birthday. I didn’t get to go this year, but I’ve gone in the past and had fun.

You know what I miss? Spamarama. It was completely silly, but still a hoot. I wish they’d do it again.

Hey, how’d that interview for the DMBA go?

re: #148 Locker

We’re not gonna protest!
WE’RE NOT GONNA PROTEST!
Gutter is a tool!
GUTTER IS A TOOL!

PCU. The movie that first introduced the world to Jeremy Piven’s comic talent.

Gotta go. Ben up since 0330 am PT. Headed to the gym back to bed and then another 7 day stretch of 12.25 hour work days.

good night, day and so long to one and all.

re: #132 sattv4u2

Not being snarky, but i’m sure you had similar concerns with Soros groups saying they “owned” the dems last 2 election cycles

Yes, we commented on the extreme lefties extensively here on LGF. They never achieved the mainstream acceptance of the Tea Parties though.

re: #153 _RememberTonyC

very closedminded of you to agree with that. the NY Post, while not perfect has many good things in it. this is still America, where you get to have opposing viewpoints.

Uh, what?

I’m a new yorker. I have an opinion on the NY Post, particularly after Murdoch bought it. I expressed it.

The one being closeminded here and pissed at alternative opinions being expressed would be….you.

re: #151 Guanxi88

She showed up in her little dance costume - she’s about 4 years old, and was a bumblebee - and she’s a dead-ringer for that pudgy little bee-girl from that ‘90’s video the name and band of which elude me.

This?

re: #159 MandyManners

Fucking felicitous freaks.

Leftist protesters fear Mandy. Her criticism of them is withering and she can hurl imprecations even better than they can. This is because her statements contain facts.

re: #164 Guanxi88

Hey, how’d that interview for the DMBA go?

The interview went surprisingly well. I was nervous as all hell (and even admitted as much to him at one point, since I figured honesty was a good idea), but we got along just fine. We seemed to be on the same page about a lot of things, and even had some things in common, since both of us lived in Houston for many years. I was able to talk shop about some of my radio days, and we could speak shorthand to each other due to both of us having lived there.

Not only that, we were able to talk easily about the degree and about my goals and what I saw myself doing one I graduated. He seemed to get where I was coming from and what I was looking for. Hopefully, he could see my passion for the program and he decides that I’m a good fit.

No word back yet, since the interview was on the 13th. Still, I’m keeping a positive attitude about it all. :D

re: #130 NJDhockeyfan

Are you saying the author of the editorial _RememberTonyC posted is a hate-monger?

The NY Post seems to be a bit tabloid-ish, and I base that on just a small bit of familiarity with it.

But that opinion piece linked by tonyC is by a Muslim American stating his opinion that non-radical Muslims should be willing to show their American-ness at times. Didn’t seem hate-filled to me.

re: #157 Ericus58

And that is what raised my eyebrows.

There were plenty of eyebrow raising moments there, but the hunter comment was over the top…Americans hunt…just say you’re a hunter and nobody will question you…in fucking MAY!

re: #154 cliffster

Blind Melon?

Whatever happened to them?

re: #168 iceweasel

Uh, what?

I’m a new yorker. I have an opinion on the NY Post, particularly after Murdoch bought it. I expressed it.

The one being closeminded here and pissed at alternative opinions being expressed would be…you.

That op-ed was written by a moderate muslim.

I am an American Muslim dedicated to defeating the ideology that fuels global Islamist terror — political Islam. And I don’t see such a “center” actually fighting terrorism or being a very “positive” addition near Ground Zero, no matter how well intentioned.

To put it bluntly, Ground Zero is the one place in America where Muslims should think less about teaching Islam and “our good side” and more about being American and fulfilling our responsibilities to confront the ideology of our enemies.

He doesn’t sound like a hate-monger to me. What’s the problem with this particular opinion piece?

re: #162 Lidane

Ah, Eeyore’s Birthday. I didn’t get to go this year, but I’ve gone in the past and had fun.

You know what I miss? Spamarama. It was completely silly, but still a hoot. I wish they’d do it again.

Some things lose their novelty after a bit. ACL Festival was a blast for a few years in a row, but I haven’t gone for a couple years. Just not the same anymore.

re: #167 Killgore Trout

Yes, we commented on the extreme lefties extensively here on LGF. They never achieved the mainstream acceptance of the Tea Parties though.

Perhaps because they didn’t have “mainstream” ideas!

re: #174 MandyManners

Whatever happened to them?

IIRC, singer ODed.

re: #167 Killgore Trout

Yes, we commented on the extreme lefties extensively here on LGF. They never achieved the mainstream acceptance of the Tea Parties though.

Sarah Palin came to SC and endorsed on of the candidates for Governor. The next day I saw a commercial with Mike Huckabee endorsing another: “He was Tea Party before there was a Tea party!”

Spare me!

re: #161 sattv4u2

for now!!

///

I KID ,,It;s the same thing the lefties were saying in the early 90’s ,, LIGHTEN UP EVERYONE!!

I’m not interested in debating about the media this morning, and I do not want to get into it with Ice or anyone else over the merits of the NYP. But the writer of the piece I posted is a Muslim who appears to get it more than many Americans. And I like seeing their perspective, which I would not likely see in the NY Times.

re: #174 MandyManners

Whatever happened to them?

Shannon Hoon (singer) died - OD. Don’t they all…

re: #167 Killgore Trout

Yes, we commented on the extreme lefties extensively here on LGF. They never achieved the mainstream acceptance of the Tea Parties though.

That’s a point of contention, of course. You may recall I’ve ranted extensively here about the New Left’s long march through the institutions of the American Left and their current status as well within the mainstream - in deed, ideologically, well within the leadership - of the Democratic party.

But that’s neither here nor there. One’s a group of citizens with no clear organization or agenda - the other’s just a cadre of like-minded activists and organizers well-entrenched in academia, and the executive and judicial branches of the federal government. It’s easy to see why the Tea Partiers are cause for such concern..

re: #168 iceweasel

Uh, what?

I’m a new yorker. I have an opinion on the NY Post, particularly after Murdoch bought it. I expressed it.

The one being closeminded here and pissed at alternative opinions being expressed would be…you.

no ma’am … you are wrong in the way you are sizing up my intentions.

re: #170 Dark_Falcon

Leftist protesters fear Mandy. Her criticism of them is withering and she can hurl imprecations even better than they can. This is because her statements contain facts.

Leftists? Nah. I just hate happy.

Children follow examples, not advice.

re: #184 MandyManners

Leftists? Nah. I just hate happy.

You a russian, by any chance? They’re a moody sort, in my experience.

re: #178 Cannadian Club Akbar

IIRC, singer ODed.

Sounds sorta’ familiar. What a waste.

N Korea ‘severs all ties’ with Seoul

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk…]

“North Korea is to cut all relations with South Korea, Pyongyang’s official news agency has reported.

KCNA said this would include all the North’s communications with the South.”

Gee… didn’t see that coming…

re: #172 reine.de.tout

The NY Post seems to be a bit tabloid-ish, and I base that on just a small bit of familiarity with it.

But that opinion piece linked by tonyC is by a Muslim American stating his opinion that non-radical Muslims should be willing to show their American-ness at times. Didn’t seem hate-filled to me.

The NY Post & the NY Daily News are both tabloid newspapers. Everyone knows that. That doesn’t make them bad newspapers. It’s not like they post US government secrets, or anything.

re: #189 NJDhockeyfan

heh

re: #181 cliffster

Shannon Hoon (singer) died - OD. Don’t they all…

Waste.

re: #188 Ericus58

Heard this a.m. that ROK psychological warfare operations have ramped up, telling the NORKs, among other things, that OBESITY is a current public-health concern in the South. Talk about salt in the wound.

re: #182 Guanxi88

That’s a point of contention, of course. You may recall I’ve ranted extensively here about the New Left’s long march through the institutions of the American Left and their current status as well within the mainstream - in deed, ideologically, well within the leadership - of the Democratic party.

But that’s neither here nor there. One’s a group of citizens with no clear organization or agenda - the other’s just a cadre of like-minded activists and organizers well-entrenched in academia, and the executive and judicial branches of the federal government. It’s easy to see why the Tea Partiers are cause for such concern..

DING.

re: #175 NJDhockeyfan

He doesn’t sound like a hate-monger to me. What’s the problem with this particular opinion piece?

My opinion is about the Post, to wit: it is a despicable piece of shit whose Oped pages are infested with Ed Anger types.

I’m not especially interested in discussing that particular piece at the moment. Frankly, I consider this crap over the mosque near Ground Zero to be just that— crap. A wholly expected outrageous outrage.

re: #191 MandyManners

Waste.

yup

re: #186 Guanxi88

You a russian, by any chance? They’re a moody sort, in my experience.

I hate vodka.

re: #183 _RememberTonyC

no ma’am … you are wrong in the way you are sizing up my intentions.

Actually, I was pointing out that you were wrong in the way you assessed mine.

re: #138 Ericus58

Yes, the decision should be left to those who live there and the local government.

Agree.

re: #188 Ericus58

N Korea ‘severs all ties’ with Seoul

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk…]

“North Korea is to cut all relations with South Korea, Pyongyang’s official news agency has reported.

KCNA said this would include all the North’s communications with the South.”

Gee… didn’t see that coming…

Lil’ Kim’s gonna be so ronery.

re: #194 iceweasel

My opinion is about the Post, to wit: it is a despicable piece of shit whose Oped pages are infested with Ed Anger types.

Holy Hell, Hannah! There’s a name I hadn’t heard in ages!

re: #192 Guanxi88

Heard this a.m. that ROK psychological warfare operations have ramped up, telling the NORKs, among other things, that OBESITY is a current public-health concern in the South. Talk about salt in the wound.

I read a report that stated the average size of those in the North being 6” shorter than their counterparts in the South.

They are withering on the vine.
That makes them even more un-predictable.

re: #192 Guanxi88

Heard this a.m. that ROK psychological warfare operations have ramped up, telling the NORKs, among other things, that OBESITY is a current public-health concern in the South. Talk about salt in the wound.

You can never be too rich or too thin.

Oh, wait.

re: #192 Guanxi88

Heard this a.m. that ROK psychological warfare operations have ramped up, telling the NORKs, among other things, that OBESITY is a current public-health concern in the South. Talk about salt in the wound.

Damn! Think about that while we have another cheeseburger, North Korea!

re: #200 Guanxi88

Holy Hell, Hannah! There’s a name I hadn’t heard in ages!

Heh. I used to love that column!
What’s up with everyone’s favourite bootlegger? ;)

re: #201 Ericus58

I read a report that stated the average size of those in the North being 6” shorter than their counterparts in the South.

They are withering on the vine.
That makes them even more un-predictable.

Yep. Machiavelli, quoting Livy, points out that warfare motivated by starvation - which, for the poor NORKs, would be exactly that - is the most savage and brutal sort. I also recall studies in the 40’s showing that starving people are more obedient than well-nourished ones.

“Fat and sassy” isn’t just a handy term of abuse.

re: #194 iceweasel

My opinion is about the Post, to wit: it is a despicable piece of shit whose Oped pages are infested with Ed Anger types.

I’m not especially interested in discussing that particular piece at the moment. Frankly, I consider this crap over the mosque near Ground Zero to be just that— crap. A wholly expected outrageous outrage.

you should open your mind and heart and hear the message of a moderate Muslim who is obviously a sensitive and grateful American. The Post is just the vehicle for his views.

I’m beginning to believe that SC stands for Seriously Crazy

Just days after S.C gubernatorial candidate Nikki Haley was seen taking the lead in the race for the Republican nomination, state political blogger Will Folks of FITS News is claiming to have had an “inappropriate physical relationship.”

re: #188 Ericus58

N Korea ‘severs all ties’ with Seoul

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk…]

“North Korea is to cut all relations with South Korea, Pyongyang’s official news agency has reported.

KCNA said this would include all the North’s communications with the South.”

Gee… didn’t see that coming…

North Korea’s military has reportedly been ordered to prepare for combat, after Seoul blamed the country for sinking one of its warships.

re: #179 SteveC

Sarah Palin came to SC and endorsed on of the candidates for Governor. The next day I saw a commercial with Mike Huckabee endorsing another: “He was Tea Party before there was a Tea party!”

Spare me!

Huck v. Palin? God’s ears will be burning with all the cross chatter.

re: #197 iceweasel

Actually, I was pointing out that you were wrong in the way you assessed mine.

Gotta disagree, Ice. The writer is not a Post employee. His message seemed quite pure to me. You should hear him out …

re: #208 NJDhockeyfan

North Korea’s military has reportedly been ordered to prepare for combat, after Seoul blamed the country for sinking one of its warships.

[Video]

Intelligence reports so far are that no overt moves by the NK’s is underway in regards to it’s military.

but the day is young….

re: #194 iceweasel

I’m not especially interested in discussing that particular piece at the moment.

Than why did you decide to post an opinion about it?

re: #209 darthstar

Huck v. Palin? God’s ears will be burning with all the cross chatter.

They’ll put Brother Love’s Traveling Salvation Show out of business!

re: #199 MandyManners

Lil’ Kim’s gonna be so ronery.

Lil Kim? Whoa

re: #204 iceweasel

Heh. I used to love that column!
What’s up with everyone’s favourite bootlegger? ;)

hard at work, I tell you.

Been sneaking my bootleg ‘baccy into the house in bits and pieces, processing it into periques when the wife and apes are out doing something churchy, and storing it in the attic when it’s ready for aging. I’ve got about 2 months before I take my first samples, but so far, it smells right.

Next project? Build a still.

re: #210 _RememberTonyC

Gotta disagree, Ice. The writer is not a Post employee. His message seemed quite pure to me. You should hear him out …

Also, the piece was quite lacking in hysteria. It was a calmly written opinion.

re: #212 NJDhockeyfan

Than why did you decide to post an opinion about it?

I think if Ice reads the piece, it will make sense to her. But she has to give it a shot before condemning it.

tow truck just arrived at my house … BBL

re: #212 NJDhockeyfan

Than why did you decide to post an opinion about it?

Jesus fuck, is it reading comprehension day fail?

I posted an opinion about the Post. Actually I posted agreeing with someone else’s opinion of the post. What, I need your permission to post here?

Good luck with that.

re: #120 lawhawk

The site being built upon isn’t in Ground Zero, but several blocks away. Just how far away is far enough?

Cleveland.

re: #216 reine.de.tout

Also, the piece was quite lacking in hysteria. It was a calmly written opinion.

Right. The opinion that the mosque shouldn’t be built near Ground Zero. Why? A whole lotta hot air.

I understand fully why that piece would be popular here in the early morning hours.

re: #218 iceweasel

Jesus fuck, is it reading comprehension day fail?

I posted an opinion about the Post. Actually I posted agreeing with someone else’s opinion of the post. What, I need your permission to post here?

Good luck with that.

Here’s some more hate filled rhetoric from that NY Post article for ya…

The World Trade Center site represents Ground Zero in America’s war against radical Islamists who seek to destroy the American way of life. It is not ground zero of a cultural exchange.

We American Muslims cannot merely passively avoid Islamists like the Muslim Brotherhood and its offshoots. We need to ask ourselves: Are we Americans who happen to be Muslim or Muslims blindly demanding to be American?

American Muslims will be better served if this project is built further away from Ground Zero and focuses on leading a reform effort. If we help build anything at the WTC site itself, it should be timeless memorials to all those who lost their lives on 9/11 — memorials blind to faith, race, creed or national origin.

On Sept. 12, 2001, I was first an American. When those planes hit the World Trade Center, they hit at the core of my being as an American. The attack on my faith by the terrorists was secondary to their attack on my homeland.

I’m sorry if that offends you….NOT!

re: #218 iceweasel

Jesus fuck, is it reading comprehension day fail?

Blue.

re: #206 _RememberTonyC

you should open your mind and heart and hear the message of a moderate Muslim who is obviously a sensitive and grateful American. The Post is just the vehicle for his views.

I guess some believe that the moderate Muslims should just STFU and stop interfering with the outraged lib meme.

re: #219 RogueOne

Cleveland.

What do you have against Cleveland !?!?!

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re: #221 NJDhockeyfan

I’m sorry if that offends you…NOT!

Oh I get it. You would like to have a little fight this morning.

Sorry, not going to happen.

You still fail, btw.

Who’s zooming Who?

South Carolina is in apparent need of chastity belts. Thousands of them. Unisex, and industrial strength.

Less than a year after Gov. Mark Sanford left for his hike on the Appalachian Trail, two of his former acolytes are in a public argument over whether they slept together.

That first paragraph is comedy gold!

re: #174 MandyManners

Whatever happened to them?

Shannon died. He was a HS boyfriend of a girl I dated in college. He had a major drug problem that went way back.

re: #220 iceweasel

Right. The opinion that the mosque shouldn’t be built near Ground Zero. Why? A whole lotta hot air.

I understand fully why that piece would be popular here in the early morning hours.

I don’t care where the mosque is built; it seems far enough away from Ground Zero me, and besides, the locals have a good handle on it.

It’s simply the opinion piece I’m talking about. Whatever the general consensus is about the Post, that particular piece was a non-hysterical opinion piece about the mosque. I appreciated having the guy’s viewpoint.

re: #214 cliffster

Lil Kim? Whoa

[Video]

Does she like kimchi?

re: #220 iceweasel

Right. The opinion that the mosque shouldn’t be built near Ground Zero. Why? A whole lotta hot air.

I understand fully why that piece would be popular here in the early morning hours.

It’s almost 11am EDT.

re: #228 reine.de.tout

I don’t care where the mosque is built; it seems far enough away from Ground Zero me, and besides, the locals have a good handle on it.

Exactly.

re: #229 MandyManners

Does she like kimchi?

dude, I love kimchi. Don’t like that picture to that word…

re: #227 RogueOne

Shannon died. He was a HS boyfriend of a girl I dated in college. He had a major drug problem that went way back.

Heroin?

re: #223 Spare O’Lake

I guess some believe that the moderate Muslims should just STFU and stop interfering with the outraged lib meme.

When you get a traffic ticket do you say “outraged lib ticket” or if the prices on cantaloupe go up in your grocery do you say “ridiculous liberal fruit tax”? So why do you have to throw that shit in as your cherry on top buzz word so often?

The hate is transparent.

re: #232 cliffster

like = link

re: #224 sattv4u2

What do you have against Cleveland !?!?!

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Nothing. They need as many building projects as they can get.

re: #232 cliffster

dude, I love kimchi. Don’t like that picture to that word…

You can have my kimchi.

re: #234 Locker

The hate is transparent.

If it were transparent, you couldn’t really see it?

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Howzit, locker?

re: #230 Spare O’Lake

It’s almost 11am EDT.

Very good. With practice you might even be able to work out Pacific time soon.

re: #230 Spare O’Lake

It’s almost 11am EDT.

Yea there is only one timezone and Spare says it’s 11am therefor you are WRONG!

re: #231 iceweasel

Exactly.

Whatever the general consensus is about the Post, that particular piece was a non-hysterical opinion piece about the mosque

Exactly

re: #237 MandyManners

You can have my kimchi.

in bed?

re: #233 MandyManners

Heroin?

From what I was told he was into heroin topped off with massive amounts of alcohol from the time he was a teenager.

re: #237 MandyManners

You can have my kimchi.

A wealthy North Korean’s last will and testament.

re: #238 Guanxi88

If it were transparent, you couldn’t really see it?

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Howzit, locker?

Good sir hows things?

re: #223 Spare O’Lake

I guess some believe that the moderate Muslims should just STFU and stop interfering with the outraged lib meme.

Also, it seems that some of us are open to reading various opinions, whether we agree or not, but others are not.

proggies are testy today. Is it a full moon?