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255 comments
1 Taqyia2Me  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:03:47am

It's my favorite subscription, bar none.

2 Ericus58  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:16:56am

Best way to keep our community vibrant.

3 Cathypop  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:17:57am

Morning everyone.
Just made my donation and bought the cookbook when it came out.
Now back to lurking and work.

4 ryannon  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:23:06am

Charles - your direct PayPal link won't work for me (it won't recognize a card which is valid). Do you have an address that I can use to send a donation from my own PayPal account?

5 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:27:38am

re: #4 ryannon

Charles - your direct PayPal link won't work for me (it won't recognize a card which is valid). Do you have an address that I can use to send a donation from my own PayPal account?

There used to be a PO box address. I'm not sure where the info is.

6 ryannon  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:29:39am

re: #5 Killgore Trout

There used to be a PO box address. I'm not sure where the info is.

Neither am I. Perhaps someone knows.

Perhaps not.

7 researchok  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:30:59am

I would prefer to use a PO Box.

8 ryannon  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:32:25am

Problem resolved. Donation $ent.

9 ryannon  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:37:17am

Another shitty Abba video to mark the event

Youtube Video
10 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:40:50am

re: #7 researchok

If you are worried about using Paypal (and you should be), use a prepaid Visa debit card. I use one for ANY transaction that requires the use of Paypal. I don't trust them. I've had to have my credit card reissued twice after using them for on-line transactions.

11 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:41:07am

A quick sales pitch on the cookbook for any on the fence.

This is not a list of lame recipes like "I added hunks of ham to my Kraft Mac and cheese and it was good"

This is awesome recipes by very accomplished LGF chefs, like Reine's Cajun Delights. Additional goodness is Kilgore's gardening section and Cato's poetry.

It is a bargain at twice the price!!!!

Don't delay! Order Now!!!!!

12 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:42:34am

re: #11 rwdflynavy

Not to mention my Lasagna recipe. It will put 5 lbs on you by just reading it.

13 Taqyia2Me  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:46:19am

re: #12 Bubblehead II

I'm going to surprise my lovely wife by making that this weekend!

14 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:48:53am

re: #11 rwdflynavy

A quick sales pitch on the cookbook for any on the fence.

This is not a list of lame recipes like "I added hunks of ham to my Kraft Mac and cheese and it was good"

This is awesome recipes by very accomplished LGF chefs, like Reine's Cajun Delights. Additional goodness is Kilgore's gardening section and Cato's poetry.

It is a bargain at twice the price!!!

Don't delay! Order Now!!!


Everybody did a great job with the cookbook. It's huge! Tons of recipes and the artwork is amazing.

15 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:49:07am

re: #13 Taqyia2Me

Cool. Let me know how it turns out.

16 Boogberg  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:50:04am

The cookbooks are definitely on my wish list.

17 Taqyia2Me  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:51:28am

re: #15 Bubblehead II

Cool. Let me know how it turns out.

Will do, thanks! (lasagna recipes are some of my favorite reads...)

18 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:52:19am

re: #14 Killgore Trout

Everybody did a great job with the cookbook. It's huge! Tons of recipes and the artwork is amazing.

Jaunte out did himself, that's for sure.

19 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:54:05am

Well time to go to w*rk.

See you all on the flip side.

L8R

20 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:54:13am

a hell of a shootout 12 miles south of Nogalas...21 gangsters dead...those are some brutal bad guys who play for keeps, and no doubt they are coming and going, slowly setting up shop in the US

21 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:54:56am

Morning everyone.

22 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:59:20am

re: #16 Boogberg

The cookbooks are definitely on my wish list.

Check in with Reine this weekend. I think there might be a special deal on cookbooks.

23 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 6:59:29am

re: #20 albusteve

a hell of a shootout 12 miles south of Nogalas...21 gangsters dead...those are some brutal bad guys who play for keeps, and no doubt they are coming and going, slowly setting up shop in the US

Move along, nothin to see here.
//

24 Boogberg  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:00:26am

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Noted! Thank you. :)

25 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:11:05am

GOAAAAAALLLLLLLL!!!! Brazil 1 - Dutch 0

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

26 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:11:54am

re: #25 lawhawk

GOAAALLL!!! Brazil 1 - Dutch 0

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

Is there now a country called "Dutch"? :)

27 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:17:33am

re: #26 Mad Al-Jaffee

Is there now a country called "Dutch"? :)

There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.

28 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:24:43am

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Check in with Reine this weekend. I think there might be a special deal on cookbooks.

Yep.
Rightwingconspirator will be announcing it.

29 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:27:49am

re: #28 reine.de.tout

Yep.
Rightwingconspirator will be announcing it.

Hooray!

30 Boogberg  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:29:46am

Uh oh:

iPhone 4 Lawsuits Start Rolling In

MaximumPC magazine

31 cliffster  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:33:44am

re: #16 Boogberg

The cookbooks are definitely on my wish list.

Gotta admit - I was surprised when I got mine. No amateur shit there - it is polished and professional.

32 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:35:12am

re: #30 Boogberg

Uh oh:

iPhone 4 Lawsuits Start Rolling In

MaximumPC magazine

Dammit people you are just holding it wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
//

33 Ericus58  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:38:06am

Schwarzenegger: Pay State Workers Minimum Wage

[Link: www.cnbc.com...]

"Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's order to pay 200,000 state workers just the minimum wage sent a signal to California lawmakers: In the impasse over closing California's $19 billion budget deficit, Schwarzenegger is ready to play hardball.

The Legislature's deadline to send a spending plan to the governor passed two weeks ago, and the fiscal year began Thursday with Republicans and majority Democrats no closer to finding a compromise.

Schwarzenegger's action is intended to pressure the legislative leaders to get to work so California does not repeat the cycle of IOUs and higher interest rates that have plagued it during recent budget stalemates, which sometimes have dragged on for months."

I'm sure he won't do it. But the poker-style action between him and the State Legislature sure is getting ramped up.

Hey, how's that Federal Budget work going?

34 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:39:14am

Death by stoning imminent for Iranian woman, attorney says

She will be buried up to her chest, deeper than a man would be, and the stones that will be hurled at her will be large enough to cause pain but not so large as to kill her immediately, according to an Amnesty International report that cited the Iranian penal code.

The 42-year-old woman from the northern city of Tabriz was convicted of adultery in 2006, and her execution is imminent, said prominent human rights lawyer Mohammad Mostafaei.

a while ago, someone here said we need more patient, and reasoned diplomacy dealing with the Iranians...I think not

[Link: edition.cnn.com...]

35 Boogberg  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:41:50am

re: #34 albusteve

Disgusting.

36 Ericus58  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:43:40am

re: #34 albusteve

Death by stoning imminent for Iranian woman, attorney says

She will be buried up to her chest, deeper than a man would be, and the stones that will be hurled at her will be large enough to cause pain but not so large as to kill her immediately, according to an Amnesty International report that cited the Iranian penal code.

The 42-year-old woman from the northern city of Tabriz was convicted of adultery in 2006, and her execution is imminent, said prominent human rights lawyer Mohammad Mostafaei.

a while ago, someone here said we need more patient, and reasoned diplomacy dealing with the Iranians...I think not

[Link: edition.cnn.com...]

The sad facts are not just the Islamic Republic of Iran condone this - add several other countries in the region with Islamic-based governments, including the Kurds in Iraq.

37 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:43:49am

re: #34 albusteve

Damn Iranian Amish, always up to no good!

38 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:44:01am

re: #33 Ericus58

Schwarzenegger: Pay State Workers Minimum Wage

[Link: www.cnbc.com...]

"Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's order to pay 200,000 state workers just the minimum wage sent a signal to California lawmakers: In the impasse over closing California's $19 billion budget deficit, Schwarzenegger is ready to play hardball.

The Legislature's deadline to send a spending plan to the governor passed two weeks ago, and the fiscal year began Thursday with Republicans and majority Democrats no closer to finding a compromise.

Schwarzenegger's action is intended to pressure the legislative leaders to get to work so California does not repeat the cycle of IOUs and higher interest rates that have plagued it during recent budget stalemates, which sometimes have dragged on for months."

I'm sure he won't do it. But the poker-style action between him and the State Legislature sure is getting ramped up.

Hey, how's that Federal Budget work going?

it's going to the same place Gitmo and the KLM trial went...down the memory hole...I believe it's unprecedented there is no budget at the summer vacation time...is there some explanation?

39 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:45:13am

re: #35 Boogberg

Disgusting.

watch one on youtube, then ask yourself how 'reasonable' we should be with the mad Mullahs

40 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:45:22am

Thanks, Charles, for providing one of the best forum/discussion sites around!

I've got one tech question: In LGF Pages, how do I make it so the "title" link actually links to the site I'm referring to? (Mine link back to LGF). Other people seem to manage to do this.

41 Political Atheist  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:46:00am

re: #28 reine.de.tout

Good morning.
Yes, I'll have a bit a cookbook news. Happy Dance! Vacation this week. Maybe get to see what the overnight thread is like after midnight...

42 ReamWorks SKG  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:47:43am

re: #32 rwdflynavy

This letter made my mind reel

[Link: www.apple.com...]

...especially since an Apple wackjob friend of mine told me several days before that the problem was their "bars" algorithm was much more accurate than other phones and thats why the bars fluctuate so much. (My office is about 1 mile from Apple HQ, so I'm almost in the reality distortion field.)

43 Boogberg  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:47:54am

re: #39 albusteve

Well we have the death penalty in the US too.

44 Political Atheist  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:48:02am

re: #33 Ericus58

In my view it is The Gov vs. the state worker unions on this. Example-State funded schools are closing (LAUSD) to free up cash to cover investments gone bad, to cover fixed benefit pension bills. OUCH!

45 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:48:31am

re: #34 albusteve

Death by stoning imminent for Iranian woman, attorney says

She will be buried up to her chest, deeper than a man would be, and the stones that will be hurled at her will be large enough to cause pain but not so large as to kill her immediately, according to an Amnesty International report that cited the Iranian penal code.

The 42-year-old woman from the northern city of Tabriz was convicted of adultery in 2006, and her execution is imminent, said prominent human rights lawyer Mohammad Mostafaei.

a while ago, someone here said we need more patient, and reasoned diplomacy dealing with the Iranians...I think not

[Link: edition.cnn.com...]

How dare you question their "culture"!!!!!
//

46 abolitionist  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:48:42am

re: #30 Boogberg

Uh oh:

iPhone 4 Lawsuits Start Rolling In

MaximumPC magazine

Need a Job? Apple Now Hiring "Non Issue" (Antenna) Engineers

Offering more than minumum wage, no doubt.

47 Ericus58  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:50:02am

re: #43 Boogberg

Well we have the death penalty in the US too.

I don't think you can equate the two to be the same.

48 abolitionist  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:51:31am

re: #43 Boogberg

Well we have the death penalty in the US too.

Not for adultery (unless we're talking about political careers).

49 Buck  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:53:37am

re: #34 albusteve

Death by stoning imminent for Iranian woman, attorney says

She will be buried up to her chest, deeper than a man would be, and the stones that will be hurled at her will be large enough to cause pain but not so large as to kill her immediately, according to an Amnesty International report that cited the Iranian penal code.

The 42-year-old woman from the northern city of Tabriz was convicted of adultery in 2006, and her execution is imminent, said prominent human rights lawyer Mohammad Mostafaei.

a while ago, someone here said we need more patient, and reasoned diplomacy dealing with the Iranians...I think not

[Link: edition.cnn.com...]

Can we send Sean Penn to Iran to cover this story?

50 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:53:47am

re: #34 albusteve

Death by stoning imminent for Iranian woman, attorney says

She will be buried up to her chest, deeper than a man would be, and the stones that will be hurled at her will be large enough to cause pain but not so large as to kill her immediately, according to an Amnesty International report that cited the Iranian penal code.

The 42-year-old woman from the northern city of Tabriz was convicted of adultery in 2006, and her execution is imminent, said prominent human rights lawyer Mohammad Mostafaei.

a while ago, someone here said we need more patient, and reasoned diplomacy dealing with the Iranians...I think not

[Link: edition.cnn.com...]

I watched the movie "The Stoning of Soraya M" which contains a horrific scene of this atrocity, it's like "Passion of the Christ" only with a woman.

51 ryannon  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:54:25am

re: #34 albusteve

Death by stoning imminent for Iranian woman, attorney says

She will be buried up to her chest, deeper than a man would be, and the stones that will be hurled at her will be large enough to cause pain but not so large as to kill her immediately, according to an Amnesty International report that cited the Iranian penal code.

The 42-year-old woman from the northern city of Tabriz was convicted of adultery in 2006, and her execution is imminent, said prominent human rights lawyer Mohammad Mostafaei.

a while ago, someone here said we need more patient, and reasoned diplomacy dealing with the Iranians...I think not

[Link: edition.cnn.com...]


Perhaps we could persuade them to use cream pies instead of rocks?

52 Boogberg  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:55:25am

re: #46 abolitionist

Lol! Love that 'help wanted' sign. :D

53 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 7:56:23am

re: #49 Buck

Can we send Sean Penn to Iran to cover this story?

Even better, can we send him there disguised as a woman who commited adultery?

54 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:00:57am

Gore Defiant as Cops Reopen Sex Allegations Case

Groper Gore exposed!....lurid details below the fold!

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

55 Ericus58  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:04:01am

re: #54 albusteve

Gore Defiant as Cops Reopen Sex Allegations Case

Groper Gore exposed!...lurid details below the fold!

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

Crazed Sex Poodle!!

56 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:04:13am

Wow, I'm up to 15 followers on twitter. Pretty impressive. I have no idea how people are finding me.

57 Ericus58  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:05:14am

re: #56 Killgore Trout

Wow, I'm up to 15 followers on twitter. Pretty impressive. I have no idea how people are finding me.

RUN!!!

58 cliffster  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:05:50am

re: #54 albusteve

Gropergate!

59 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:07:12am

re: #57 Ericus58

RUN!!!

One follower who signed up this morning is head of some christian homeschooling organization. Odd.

60 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:08:27am

re: #56 Killgore Trout

Wow, I'm up to 15 followers on twitter. Pretty impressive. I have no idea how people are finding me.

These are people who see your "tweets" and follow you.
I have a few followers like that, myself.

If I go to their twitter page and it looks like they tweet spam, I block them.

61 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:09:44am

Cold and rainy again here today. It's been so dark for the past couple months that when the sun does come out the plants get leaf burn. We're supposed to get up into the 90's next week. That should be interesting.

62 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:09:50am

re: #60 reine.de.tout

I don't tweet.

63 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:10:44am

re: #60 reine.de.tout

These are people who see your "tweets" and follow you.
I have a few followers like that, myself.

If I go to their twitter page and it looks like they tweet spam, I block them.

I haven't really checked out many of my followers. So far I've only blocked the obvious stalkers.

64 Ericus58  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:11:13am

And now for a morning pause - to give thanks for having talent like this in America. I give you:

Youtube Video
65 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:11:32am

Maj Gen Messenger told reporters in London that British military intelligence has found “evidence” that some of the IED attacks are being supported from outside Afghanistan.

“We are looking beyond Afghanistan in terms of the provision of some of the more sophisticated components and the provision of finance,” he said. “There is evidence that something is coming in from Iran, something is coming in from Pakistan.

well no shit....Afghanistan is going to go the same way Iraq did...Islamofascists from all over the ME will try their luck at killing NATO troops, and if they fail, they still get their raisins...this is not going to end well

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

66 Ericus58  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:12:21am

re: #63 Killgore Trout

I haven't really checked out many of my followers. So far I've only blocked the obvious stalkers.

Hey! what happened to my feed.....

67 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:12:27am

re: #61 Killgore Trout

Our nasty, humid heat wave broke a couple of days ago. I rode my bike this morning and had to wear a long sleeve t-shirt. It' been really nice during the day (80s, sunny, no humidity.) The nasty weather is supposed to return next week.

68 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:13:42am

I suspect that some of my tadpoles might be bullfrogs which are an invasive species here. Correctly identifying and dispatching them is going to be difficult. I suspect I'm going to have to let them grow up and catch them at some point. I don't want to kill them until I can be 100% sure of the identification.

69 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:14:06am

re: #66 Ericus58

Hey! what happened to my feed...

Oops, did I block you?

70 Political Atheist  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:14:15am

re: #63 Killgore Trout

I haven't really checked out many of my followers. So far I've only blocked the obvious stalkers.

My computer virus was tweetable.

71 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:15:13am

re: #68 Killgore Trout

I suspect that some of my tadpoles might be bullfrogs which are an invasive species here. Correctly identifying and dispatching them is going to be difficult. I suspect I'm going to have to let them grow up and catch them at some point. I don't want to kill them until I can be 100% sure of the identification.

Their legs are good eats.

72 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:15:24am

re: #67 Mad Al-Jaffee

Our nasty, humid heat wave broke a couple of days ago. I rode my bike this morning and had to wear a long sleeve t-shirt. It' been really nice during the day (80s, sunny, no humidity.) The nasty weather is supposed to return next week.


A lot of places are having strange weather patterns this year. Europe had some crazy flooding last month.

73 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:17:07am

re: #71 Mad Al-Jaffee

Their legs are good eats.

Yeah, I might eat them. Depends on how big they get by the time I trap them. I definitely want to get rid of them as soon as possible. If they start breeding it'll be much more difficult to get rid of them.

74 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:18:59am

re: #67 Mad Al-Jaffee

Our nasty, humid heat wave broke a couple of days ago. I rode my bike this morning and had to wear a long sleeve t-shirt. It' been really nice during the day (80s, sunny, no humidity.) The nasty weather is supposed to return next week.

I went for a run yesterday morning through Crystal City. Delightful!!

75 Ericus58  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:20:06am

re: #69 Killgore Trout

Oops, did I block you?

Heh, I'm just being silly on a Friday before my three days off. In truth, I'm not up to speed on twitter as yet. I'll have to check in with my son.

I don't have to go far anyways to read and interact with you, KT. We got LGF!
All good in my book.

76 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:20:15am

re: #68 Killgore Trout

I suspect that some of my tadpoles might be bullfrogs which are an invasive species here. Correctly identifying and dispatching them is going to be difficult. I suspect I'm going to have to let them grow up and catch them at some point. I don't want to kill them until I can be 100% sure of the identification.

I love bullfrogs! Send 'em to me.

77 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:20:46am

re: #75 Ericus58

;)

78 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:21:19am

re: #76 MandyManners

I love bullfrogs! Send 'em to me.

Frog mail!

79 SpaceJesus  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:22:24am

i get paid today, i guess it's time to buy me one of them cookbooks

80 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:23:19am

To attack or not to attack Iran? That is the question – or rather, one of the questions – asked as part of a “global attitudes survey” conducted by the Pew Research Institute in Washington. And the results? Surprising, especially with respect to attitudes toward Iran and its nuclear program.

The survey canvassed 22 countries, was conducted in the mother tongue of the respondents, and included relatively large sample groups. Eight out of 10 Germans, seven out of 10 Frenchmen and six out of 10 Britons hold negative views about Iran.

Even in countries with a predominantly Muslim majority, 66 percent in Egypt, 63% in Jordan and 60% in Lebanon hold a negative opinion of Iran.

interesting to say the least...Iran is a chip being played by the Chinese and the Russians

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

81 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:24:08am

First this week, we hear from Pelosi "Unemployment checks fastest way to create jobs" and then today from the Labor Department "Total nonfarm employment actually dropped 125,000..." Well, I hope we have the change to pay the newly unemployed. We should see about 125,000 new jobs as soon as they start getting their benefits. Good save.

82 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:24:09am

re: #70 Rightwingconspirator

My computer virus was tweetable.

in bed?

83 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:25:44am

re: #81 Walter L. Newton

First this week, we hear from Pelosi "Unemployment checks fastest way to create jobs" and then today from the Labor Department "Total nonfarm employment actually dropped 125,000..." Well, I hope we have the change to pay the newly unemployed. We should see about 125,000 new jobs as soon as they start getting their benefits. Good save.

lots of twaddle like that coming out of the administration...stuff that just not make sense

84 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:26:06am

re: #79 SpaceJesus

i get paid today, i guess it's time to buy me one of them cookbooks

Please do!
It would be much appreciated.

85 cliffster  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:26:43am

re: #73 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I might eat them. Depends on how big they get by the time I trap them. I definitely want to get rid of them as soon as possible. If they start breeding it'll be much more difficult to get rid of them.

Youtube Video
86 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:27:26am

re: #74 rwdflynavy

I went for a run yesterday morning through Crystal City. Delightful!!

I've been trying to make myself get up early on weekday mornings and ride before work. I ride shorter distances when I do that, but since the lake path is nearly empty, I go a lot faster and get a great workout. I did that twice this week. This morning I got ten miles in, and still had time to have breakfast and coffee at home and get to work by 7:45.

We still need to get a beer some time after work. And I'm playing in Alexandria again in August.

87 A Man for all Seasons  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:28:07am

Woot! Dutch ahead 2-1!
Great header on goal!
Great lunch today

88 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:28:29am

Good morning, folks.

For you video game fans out there...

Check out Naughty Bear. Hilarious, fun, challenging... teddy bear carnage! Think "Care Bears" meets "Goodfellas" meets "Army of Darkness". I absolutely LOVE it. It's one of the few games that almost made me want to call in sick to play it... Almost. I wasthis close, but I refrained.

I believe you won't be disappointed.

89 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:30:17am

re: #78 Killgore Trout

Frog mail!

Hippity-hoppity bullfrog's on his way!

90 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:30:38am

re: #88 MrSilverDragon

It sounds like you would enjoy the cartoon Happy Tree Friends.

91 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:30:38am

re: #83 albusteve

lots of twaddle like that coming out of the administration...stuff that just not make sense

It doesn't makes sense to wingnuts but it does make sense to economists....
Right-wing media freak out over Pelosi's accurate unemployment benefits comment

Congressional Budget Office director Douglas Elmendorf and McCain economic advisor Mark Zandi, have pointed out that increases in unemployment benefits are among the most effective forst of economic stimulus. In congressional testimony, Elmendorf has said:


Transfers to persons (for example, unemployment insurance and nutrition assistance) would also have a significant impact on GDP. Because a large amount of such spending can occur quickly, transfers would have a significant impact on GDP by early 2010. Transfers also include refundable tax credits, which have an impact similar to that of a temporary tax cut.

A dollar's worth of a temporary tax cut would have a smaller effect on GDP than a dollar's worth of direct purchases or transfers, because a significant share of the tax cut would probably be saved. The nonbusiness tax cuts in H.R. 1 would reduce revenues much more in calendar year 2010 than in calendar year 2009 because much of the reduction in taxes would be realized by households when they filed their returns in 2010.


92 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:31:14am

re: #90 Mad Al-Jaffee

It sounds like you would enjoy the cartoon Happy Tree Friends.

You're absolutely right. I do! In fact, I made that viral here in my office a long time back.

93 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:32:08am

re: #88 MrSilverDragon

Good morning, folks.

For you video game fans out there...

Check out Naughty Bear. Hilarious, fun, challenging... teddy bear carnage! Think "Care Bears" meets "Goodfellas" meets "Army of Darkness". I absolutely LOVE it. It's one of the few games that almost made me want to call in sick to play it... Almost. I wasthis close, but I refrained.

I believe you won't be disappointed.

Thanks, I'll look into it. I haven't bought a game in a very long time.

94 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:33:40am

re: #91 Killgore Trout

economists?....you think every economist in the country supports the way the feds have handled the dip we have here?...plenty don't

95 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:36:12am

Pell Mel back in the news again....

Furthermore, RadarOnline claims to have heard the tapes (which are currently under seal amid the custody proceedings in the L.A Superior Court) and reported that Gibson left a malevolent message on the mother of his child’s voice mail, referring to her as “a psycho c***t” – all while their baby can be heard screaming in the background. In another verbal attack, Gibson allegedly threatened to “come and burn the f***ing house down.”

he sounds pissed...he may have a date with a straight jacket in the future

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

96 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:36:34am

re: #94 albusteve

economists?...you think every economist in the country supports the way the feds have handled the dip we have here?...plenty don't

The link is to Media Matters... the Fox News of the left.

97 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:37:07am

re: #30 Boogberg

I was reading that the older versions of the iPhone had similar issues with their antennas and each newer version never addressed the problem. I don't think the lawsuits will carry the day but definitely doesn't do Apple or AT&T any favors.

98 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:38:03am

re: #91 Killgore Trout

t doesn't makes sense to wingnuts...

And her comment makes perfect sense to me... and it's evidently not working... ie: see job numbers.

99 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:39:57am

WASHINGTON—With Elena Kagan's nomination to the Supreme Court seemingly in the bag, frustrated senators from both parties turned their fire on the hearing process itself.

Lawmakers suggested the process was empty at best and dysfunctional at worst. Hearings have become highly scripted affairs, and many senators said they provided little insight into a nominee's views.

he gist of both sides' complaints was the same: If a nominee's assertions are no guide to how she will judge, what's the point of hearing testimony?

hahaha! hohohoo!

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

100 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:41:05am

re: #91 Killgore Trout

Yes, they're talking about transfer payments going to those who are unemployed, but that isn't actually growing the economy. It's taking monies already collected in UI and dispensing them to ever greater numbers.

What we need is improved economic growth in the private sector, and we're just not seeing it in any appreciable way. With the census work going by the boards, the private sector just isn't creating jobs - so the unemployment data is looking even worse. The only way that the rate went down this period was because more people have quit looking for jobs altogether. Discouraged workers isn't a sign of a good economy - let alone good for consumer confidence and economic growth in key industries - manufacturing, real estate, durable goods, etc.

101 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:41:45am

re: #96 Walter L. Newton

The link is to Media Matters... the Fox News of the left.

well then for fair and balanced, link to the Heritage Foundation...they have a multitude of top notch economists

102 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:41:55am

re: #94 albusteve

economists?...you think every economist in the country supports the way the feds have handled the dip we have here?...plenty don't

I never claimed that.

103 researchok  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:44:19am

re: #56 Killgore Trout

Wow, I'm up to 15 followers on twitter. Pretty impressive. I have no idea how people are finding me.

Fame is a heavy burden.

I know exactly how it is. I am constantly being courted by bank officials in Nigeria.

104 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:44:45am

re: #100 lawhawk

Yes, they're talking about transfer payments going to those who are unemployed, but that isn't actually growing the economy. It's taking monies already collected in UI and dispensing them to ever greater numbers.

What we need is improved economic growth in the private sector, and we're just not seeing it in any appreciable way. With the census work going by the boards, the private sector just isn't creating jobs - so the unemployment data is looking even worse. The only way that the rate went down this period was because more people have quit looking for jobs altogether. Discouraged workers isn't a sign of a good economy - let alone good for consumer confidence and economic growth in key industries - manufacturing, real estate, durable goods, etc.

Pelosi expanded her remark to and claimed... "It creates jobs faster than almost any other initiative you can name."

That's bullshit.

105 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:45:42am

re: #100 lawhawk

What we need is improved economic growth in the private sector, and we're just not seeing it in any appreciable way. With the census work going by the boards, the private sector just isn't creating jobs - so the unemployment data is looking even worse.


No so.

Payrolls declined by 130,000 last month, according to the median estimate of 82 economists surveyed by Bloomberg News. Private employment, which excludes government jobs, rose for a sixth consecutive month, the survey showed.

The pace of hiring signals it will take years for the world’s largest economy to recover the more than 8 million jobs lost during the recession that began in December 2007. The turmoil in financial markets brought on by the European debt crisis raises the risk that employment will slow, depriving American households of the income needed to maintain spending.

106 Ericus58  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:48:23am

Refer to my #91 in the previous thread.

"Payrolls in the dominant services sector rose 91,000 last month after increasing 20,000 in May.

Temporary help employment rose 20,500, while retail hiring fell 6,600.

In the goods-producing sector, payrolls fell 8,000 in June, pulled down by declines in construction as home building dropped sharply following the end of a government tax credit.

Manufacturing employment rose 9,000 after a 32,000 gain in May."

107 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:48:53am

re: #105 Killgore Trout

Private employment, which excludes government jobs, rose for a sixth consecutive month, the survey showed.

And now for... the rest of the story...

"Private hiring rose 83,000 after increasing only 33,000 the prior month, the Labor Department said. But nonfarm payrolls, dropped 125,000—the largest decline since October—as census jobs fell 225,000."

[Link: www.cnbc.com...]

Fair and balanced...

108 Ericus58  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:50:16am

Look, I really want to see the economy turn around. There is incremental improvement in a few area's. However, the overall view is not good - and it appears things are slowing down.

Not trying to play a blame-game.

109 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:50:58am

We should pass a stimulus package to assure unemployment doesn't hit 8%. Just sayin'.
Morning Honcos.

110 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:51:08am

re: #105 Killgore Trout


Payrolls declined by 130,000 last month, according to the median estimate of 82 economists surveyed by Bloomberg News. Private employment, which excludes government jobs, rose for a sixth consecutive month, the survey showed.

Despite that spin, other reports indicate that the private sector is growing anemically and as I picked up earlier today:

Businesses added a net total of 83,000 workers, an improvement from May. But that's also below March and April totals.

In other words, the growth just isn't there - and it is still below the levels needed to organically reduce the unemployment rate. Right now, the unemployment rate drops because of discouraged workers falling out of the market - not because they're getting hired on a permanent basis.

Moreover, it suggests that the job creation has dropped off heading into the summer as businesses retrench for a possible double dip.

111 A Man for all Seasons  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:51:55am

The Dutch beat the #1 team in the world..Brazil!
Yahoo!
OK..What are we talking about?

112 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:52:53am

re: #111 HoosierHoops

The Dutch beat the #1 team in the world..Brazil!
Yahoo!
OK..What are we talking about?

Wooden cleats.

113 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:53:10am

re: #95 albusteve

"You look like a f*king pig in heat and if you get raped by a pack of ni**ers it will be your fault."

Wow. He has absolutely no business having anything but supervised parenting time with the child.

114 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:54:02am

re: #113 MandyManners

Wow. He has absolutely no business having anything but supervised parenting time with the child.

he's a stud, eight kids scattered about

115 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:55:43am

re: #113 MandyManners

Wow. He has absolutely no business having anything but supervised parenting time with the child.

He and Alec Baldwin should write a childcare book together.

116 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:55:57am

re: #114 albusteve

he's a stud, eight kids scattered about

So, he has robust semen. That makes him a father, not a daddy.

To top it all off, this baby is a girl. What kind of bullshit will he impart to her?

117 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:56:56am

re: #115 Mad Al-Jaffee

He and Alec Baldwin should write a childcare book together.

How to Leave Voice Messages 101 by Baldwin.

118 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:57:31am

re: #110 lawhawk

Moreover, it suggests that the job creation has dropped off heading into the summer as businesses retrench for a possible double dip.


A Double dip is certainly a possibility. Growth is slow but it's happening. The recovery is going to take a while and it's going to be a bumpy road.

119 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:58:51am

Even Dinnerjacket isn't seeing "change".

120 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:58:55am

I found a really good foreign candy yesterday, Supercoco from Colombia. Good, cheap stuff, with real coconut. From now on whenever I shop at the Latino supermarket, I'm going to buy something I've never tried before.

121 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 8:59:12am

“Why aren’t you focused on stopping the oil spill in the Gulf, why aren’t you focused on reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, why aren’t you focused on cutting spending now, why aren’t you focused on creating jobs, what about the country, Mr. President?” Boehner asked.

the public cat fight continues...BO up next with a retortal

[Link: thehill.com...]

122 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:00:24am

re: #118 Killgore Trout

A Double dip is certainly a possibility. Growth is slow but it's happening. The recovery is going to take a while and it's going to be a bumpy road.

too bad the bloated feds can't take a tax cut...Jabba the Fed

123 cliffster  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:01:26am

re: #118 Killgore Trout

A Double dip is certainly a possibility. Growth is slow but it's happening. The recovery is going to take a while and it's going to be a bumpy road.

And if we walk that road by increasing debt astronomically, and by saddling the economy with an even heavier burden of entitlements, then it will be a much longer road and the future will be that much more bleak. The math there is very simple.

124 SpaceJesus  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:01:26am

re: #84 Killgore Trout

Please do!
It would be much appreciated.


so long as it isn't so pricey as to limit my drinking this weekend

125 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:01:30am

re: #122 albusteve

too bad the bloated feds can't take a tax cut...Jabba the Fed

Soon the Bush tax cuts will sunset, then everything will be fine.
/

126 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:03:55am

re: #120 Mad Al-Jaffee

I found a really good foreign candy yesterday, Supercoco from Colombia. Good, cheap stuff, with real coconut. From now on whenever I shop at the Latino supermarket, I'm going to buy something I've never tried before.

here in ABQ is a store called Tanin World Market or something like that....it's a huge international grocery store, busy all the time, full of stuff from all over the world, like live baby octopus etc....they do great business...ABQ is much more than a dusty trucking town, believe me, but don't tell anybody

127 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:07:52am

Rino Graham makes this prediction...

In a previous conversation, Graham told me: “The problem with the Tea Party, I think it’s just unsustainable because they can never come up with a coherent vision for governing the country. It will die out.”

[Link: thehill.com...]

128 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:08:05am

re: #126 albusteve

In Florida, we have Mexican grocery stores. All have a little spot in the back with steam tables with fresh beef, chicken, rice, beans and tortillas. Runs about $5 a meal. You can get 2 meals out of a serving. Yummy.

129 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:09:27am

re: #128 Cannadian Club Akbar

In Florida, we have Mexican grocery stores. All have a little spot in the back with steam tables with fresh beef, chicken, rice, beans and tortillas. Runs about $5 a meal. You can get 2 meals out of a serving. Yummy.

oh yeah, very typical for the groceria....that's where I buy my pulled goat

130 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:09:44am

re: #128 Cannadian Club Akbar

One of the ones I shop at has live crabs and live tilapia. Also, frozen cow heads!

I boght ribs there (which will be in my smoker for a few hours) for about half of what I pay at the supermaket. Guess I'll find out tonight if they're good.

131 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:13:33am

re: #130 Mad Al-Jaffee

One of the ones I shop at has live crabs and live tilapia. Also, frozen cow heads!

I boght ribs there (which will be in my smoker for a few hours) for about half of what I pay at the supermaket. Guess I'll find out tonight if they're good.

there are a couple of businesses right out on the main drag from me that do nothing but sell meat, all kinds including game....they jerk it, smoke it, roast it, whatever...big cookers right on the street, smoke wafting away...you can buy alot of meat pretty cheap...including tongues, ox tails, feet, ears, all that stuff

132 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:14:13am

re: #131 albusteve

there are a couple of businesses right out on the main drag from me that do nothing but sell meat, all kinds including game...they jerk it, smoke it, roast it, whatever...big cookers right on the street, smoke wafting away...you can buy alot of meat pretty cheap...including tongues, ox tails, feet, ears, all that stuff


*drools*

133 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:14:23am

re: #130 Mad Al-Jaffee

Try these crabs.
[Link: www.mcclatchydc.com...]

134 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:15:22am

re: #133 Cannadian Club Akbar

Try these crabs.
[Link: www.mcclatchydc.com...]

*sob*

Restaurant in town has a new sign up
"No Oysters"

*double sob*

135 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:18:36am

re: #134 reine.de.tout

We've seen a bounce in the price of shrimp already.

136 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:19:16am

re: #134 reine.de.tout

*sob*

Restaurant in town has a new sign up
"No Oysters"

*double sob*

yup, it's coming, and it's gonna slam the gulf like a number 5 hurricane

137 Ericus58  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:19:25am

Beef Tongue sammiches....

138 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:20:20am

re: #133 Cannadian Club Akbar

Try these crabs.
[Link: www.mcclatchydc.com...]

Luckily, we still have some blue crabs here in Maryland. They'll still be expensive this season.

139 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:20:27am

re: #136 albusteve

yup, it's coming, and it's gonna slam the gulf like a number 5 hurricane

Yea, but a Cat 5 hurricane that last for years.

140 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:21:40am

re: #138 Mad Al-Jaffee

Luckily, we still have some blue crabs here in Maryland. They'll still be expensive this season.

Some of the best crab in the world is Stone Crab. This will be the last year of that being affordable.

141 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:22:26am

re: #139 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yea, but a Cat 5 hurricane that last for years.

I'm really afraid that's true...it's just criminal that oil has been allowed ashore....it could have been prevented

142 Ericus58  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:22:39am

Come to the Pacific Northwest everyone...
We got's good stuff in seafood.

143 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:22:41am

re: #140 Cannadian Club Akbar

Some of the best crab in the world is Stone Crab. This will be the last year of that being affordable.

They're good, but a whole different animal (and eating experience) from our beautiful swimmers.

144 webevintage  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:23:10am

re: #141 albusteve

I'm really afraid that's true...it's just criminal that oil has been allowed ashore...it could have been prevented

how?

145 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:23:28am

re: #142 Ericus58

Come to the Pacific Northwest everyone...
We got's good stuff in seafood.

To many hippies!!
/half

146 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:23:29am

re: #142 Ericus58

Come to the Pacific Northwest everyone...
We got's good stuff in seafood.

too rainy and gloomy
too many trees...what's with so many trees?

147 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:24:35am

re: #144 webevintage

how?

Jindal asked for fed help in putting up barrier sandbars. Never heard from them.

148 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:25:21am

re: #144 webevintage

how?

expert military style management and leadership...slam the problem early and hard with every resource available...it didn't happen and why I don't know

149 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:25:28am

re: #147 Cannadian Club Akbar

Jindal asked for fed help in putting up barrier sandbars. Never heard from them.

I had heard that the barriers would do more harm than good.
?

150 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:25:45am

re: #144 webevintage

how?

Rene has a story about that in the Pages.

151 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:26:22am

re: #147 Cannadian Club Akbar

Jindal asked for fed help in putting up barrier sandbars. Never heard from them.

Still having problems.

152 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:26:26am

re: #149 Varek Raith

I had heard that the barriers would do more harm than good.
?

they argued over depth, on and on

153 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:26:46am

re: #147 Cannadian Club Akbar

Jindal asked for fed help in putting up barrier sandbars. Never heard from them.

[Link: www.nola.com...]

154 webevintage  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:27:10am

If only Obama had used his TARDIS and stoped the Gulf disaster from happening in the first place....
What the hell good is a Presidential time machine if you are not going to use it?

155 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:27:40am

re: #152 albusteve

they argued over depth, on and on

Is that what it was?

156 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:27:47am

re: #149 Varek Raith

I had heard that the barriers would do more harm than good.
?

You have a link to that?
All I can find is Jindal's press releases.
I'm looking for something from the Corps of Engineers or the Coast Guard as to why they are delaying the issuance of the permits. I would like to hear directly from them, rather than someone else's speculation as to why the permits aren't being issued.

157 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:28:26am

re: #154 webevintage

I didn't know he had a time machine. I know he has an albatross.

158 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:28:55am

re: #154 webevintage

If only Obama had used his TARDIS and stoped the Gulf disaster from happening in the first place...
What the hell good is a Presidential time machine if you are not going to use it?

or the MMS could have done their job...the fact that they didn't is criminal...this is an avoidable man made disaster

159 Ericus58  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:29:17am

re: #146 albusteve

too rainy and gloomy
too many trees...what's with so many trees?

Heh, I had a micro-burst going on at my house when I left this morning actually. My lawn looks fantastic!

Tree's are good, Mr. Desert.

160 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:29:22am

re: #156 reine.de.tout

You have a link to that?
All I can find is Jindal's press releases.
I'm looking for something from the Corps of Engineers or the Coast Guard as to why they are delaying the issuance of the permits. I would like to hear directly from them, rather than someone else's speculation as to why the permits aren't being issued.

It was a segment on CNN a couple a weeks ago.
I may have misinterpreted what they were talking about, though.
I'll see if I can dig up some links.

161 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:31:03am

re: #154 webevintage

If only Obama had used his TARDIS and stoped the Gulf disaster from happening in the first place...
What the hell good is a Presidential time machine if you are not going to use it?

Speaking of time machines, according to Michael Steele, Afghanistan "...was a war of Obama's choosing. This is not something the United States had actively prosecuted or wanted to engage in."

I think the GOP is really an elaborate prank. I keep waiting for someone to come out with cameras and tell me I was on some kind of reality show where it only seemed like half the country had gone nuts.

162 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:31:17am

re: #153 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: www.nola.com...]

Updated my page with your link.

163 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:32:34am

re: #162 reine.de.tout

Updated my page with your link.

Have you seen this?
[Link: www.sandandgravel.com...]

164 Ericus58  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:32:51am

re: #156 reine.de.tout

You have a link to that?
All I can find is Jindal's press releases.
I'm looking for something from the Corps of Engineers or the Coast Guard as to why they are delaying the issuance of the permits. I would like to hear directly from them, rather than someone else's speculation as to why the permits aren't being issued.

Everything I've read was the Corp had no objections to the dredging. It was the Fish and Wildlife department that was the hold-up.

165 webevintage  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:33:33am

re: #157 Cannadian Club Akbar

I didn't know he had a time machine. I know he has an albatross.

re: #161 Fozzie Bear

Speaking of time machines, according to Michael Steele, Afghanistan "...was a war of Obama's choosing. This is not something the United States had actively prosecuted or wanted to engage in."

I think the GOP is really an elaborate prank. I keep waiting for someone to come out with cameras and tell me I was on some kind of reality show where it only seemed like half the country had gone nuts.

Yeah I read Steele's bullshit this morning.
But whatever, if American's are stupid enough to believe the shit the Republicans are serving up and vote them back into power in Nov they will get exactly what they deserve.

166 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:33:49am

re: #163 Cannadian Club Akbar

Have you seen this?
[Link: www.sandandgravel.com...]

Yeah, I saw that. That is also directly from one of Jindal's press releases, I think I put it on a page awhile back.

167 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:34:22am

re: #164 Ericus58

Everything I've read was the Corp had no objections to the dredging. It was the Fish and Wildlife department that was the hold-up.

Louisiana's Wildlife & Fisheries Dept?
Do you recall where you saw that?

168 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:35:32am

re: #164 Ericus58

Everything I've read was the Corp had no objections to the dredging. It was the Fish and Wildlife department that was the hold-up.

who's on first
what's on second and
I don't know's on third

169 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:37:46am

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

170 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:38:34am

re: #162 reine.de.tout

Reine... took you suggestion, set up a store on Etsy... we'll see what happens... on 6 items up right now, will be more next week...

[Link: www.etsy.com...]

171 Ericus58  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:39:04am

re: #167 reine.de.tout

Louisiana's Wildlife & Fisheries Dept?
Do you recall where you saw that?

I had a link in a previous post of mine. last week?

172 webevintage  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:39:24am

[Link: www.rollingstone.com...]

Nearly 16,000 highly trained, well-equipped war fighters are sitting on the sidelines in the battle for the Gulf Coast — and the fault lies not with the federal government but with the governors of the affected states.

173 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:39:40am

re: #169 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

something tells me we are not hearing the entire truth about the cleanup...but I'm generally skeptical anyway

174 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:40:35am

re: #170 Walter L. Newton

Reine... took you suggestion, set up a store on Etsy... we'll see what happens... on 6 items up right now, will be more next week...

[Link: www.etsy.com...]

cool Walter

175 Varek Raith  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:41:43am

re: #160 Varek Raith

It was a segment on CNN a couple a weeks ago.
I may have misinterpreted what they were talking about, though.
I'll see if I can dig up some links.

The stuff I'm finding doesn't seem to be that big a deal.
So, scratch what I said.

176 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:41:53am

re: #172 webevintage

Fucking bullshit. And Rolling Stone to boot. Jindal asked for help and heard NOTHING for a week and then he took matters into his own hands.

177 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:42:45am

re: #172 webevintage

[Link: www.rollingstone.com...]

that's pretty damning I'd say

178 webevintage  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:43:09am

re: #176 Cannadian Club Akbar

Fucking bullshit. And Rolling Stone to boot. Jindal asked for help and heard NOTHING for a week and then he took matters into his own hands.

Wait, so you are saying that he is using the Nat. Guard and the story is wrong?

179 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:43:10am

re: #177 albusteve

if true, of course

180 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:43:52am

re: #176 Cannadian Club Akbar

Fucking bullshit. And Rolling Stone to boot. Jindal asked for help and heard NOTHING for a week and then he took matters into his own hands.

The governor is the CiC of his regional national guard in every state. He should have asked himself for help.

181 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:45:28am

re: #170 Walter L. Newton

Reine... took you suggestion, set up a store on Etsy... we'll see what happens... on 6 items up right now, will be more next week...

[Link: www.etsy.com...]

Excellent!
You've made a sale!

btw - one suggestion - I'm not sure how Etsy works - but if you could include in the description a bit of information about the type of stone for each one of the items, that would add interest, IMO.

182 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:46:37am

re: #172 webevintage

[Link: www.rollingstone.com...]

The problem isn't the number of people available.
The particular problem right now is with the Coast Guard and Corps of Engineers not issuing required permits. They've had some of these permit applications since sometime in May.

183 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:48:00am

re: #180 Fozzie Bear

The governor is the CiC of his regional national guard in every state. He should have asked himself for help.

He cannot issue himself the permits - the Coast Guard and Corps of Engineers must issue the permits. There are plenty of people, and plenty of boats out there, I've posted this frequently
Current Operations

184 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:48:10am

re: #181 reine.de.tout

Excellent!
You've made a sale!

btw - one suggestion - I'm not sure how Etsy works - but if you could include in the description a bit of information about the type of stone for each one of the items, that would add interest, IMO.

Look below the text and look at the materials tag... has all the material listed...

Materials - banded chrysocolla, wood beads, sterling silver rondels, sterling silver swirls, black silk rattail, base metal bail

[Link: www.etsy.com...]

185 webevintage  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:48:43am

In the end there is blame to go all around. So many to blame, so much hindsight and all that.

[Link: green.blogs.nytimes.com...]

In an article on Saturday in The Times, my colleague Campbell Robertson and I took a look at these criticisms and Mr. Jindal’s go-it-alone approach and found a noticeable gap between the governor’s rhetoric and reality.

We found that Louisiana’s oil-spill response plans were badly outdated and missing key sections, like a draft response plan to a worst-case discharge of oil. We also found evidence suggesting that the effectiveness of the Louisiana’s oil spill coordinator’s office had been undermined in recent years.

This office, created after the Exxon Valdez disaster of 1989 to prepare and respond to oil spills, had been allowed to shrink by half in the last decade and lost its entire research and development budget with a cut approved by Mr. Jindal.

The governor’s widely publicized plan to build a vast sand barrier around the Louisiana coast has been another point of contention between the state and the federal government. Mr. Jindal regularly attributed the slow start of the project to red tape and bureaucracy, but documents and interviews revealed that the sheer scale and complexity of the plan – not federal inaction – was the main cause for delay.

There are links within the NYT blog post to actual stories.

186 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:49:34am

re: #181 reine.de.tout

Excellent!
You've made a sale!

btw - one suggestion - I'm not sure how Etsy works - but if you could include in the description a bit of information about the type of stone for each one of the items, that would add interest, IMO.

And BTW, thanks... you didn't have to do that, but I assure you you will love the choker... I started to wear on everywhere I go, even work... and I now have three craft shops up here in the mountains handling them on consignment.

187 Four More Tears  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:49:42am

Oh my God...

I just glanced at a stalker blog full of people swearing up and down they never heard of "porch ______" as a racist term. Were these people raised in an isolated compound or something?

188 albusteve  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:49:54am

re: #183 reine.de.tout

He cannot issue himself the permits - the Coast Guard and Corps of Engineers must issue the permits. There are plenty of people, and plenty of boats out there, I've posted this frequently
Current Operations

makes me wonder how accurate Darrell Issa's report is

189 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:50:33am

re: #178 webevintage

Wait, so you are saying that he is using the Nat. Guard and the story is wrong?

Yes, he is using La. National Guard.
He is NOT using the entire number that he is allowed to call up.

The problem right now isn't number of people or amount of activity.
Current Operations

It's with the permits that the Corps of Engineers has not issued, despite having some of the permit applications since mid-May.

A discussion of the number of National Guard troops called up is just not pertinent to the current issue, which is THE LACK OF PERMITS BEING ISSUED.

190 webevintage  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:51:17am

re: #181 reine.de.tout

Excellent!
You've made a sale!

btw - one suggestion - I'm not sure how Etsy works - but if you could include in the description a bit of information about the type of stone for each one of the items, that would add interest, IMO.

and maybe a picture of the whole thing so people can see if there is a clasp in back or just a the rope.
People like more pictures...
I've found I sell better on Etsy if I add a couple of items every few days.
As it is those a lovely pieces.
Good luck!

191 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:51:18am

re: #186 Walter L. Newton

And BTW, thanks... you didn't have to do that, but I assure you you will love the choker... I started to wear on everywhere I go, even work... and I now have three craft shops up here in the mountains handling them on consignment.

I wanted to make the purchase, was hoping you'd set up that Etsy store.
I'm going to put a link on my FB page.
OK with you?

192 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:51:52am

re: #183 reine.de.tout

He cannot issue himself the permits - the Coast Guard and Corps of Engineers must issue the permits. There are plenty of people, and plenty of boats out there, I've posted this frequently
Current Operations

Well, according to the Rolling Stone article, not a single permit request has been denied. Can you substantiate that permits have been delayed?

193 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:52:46am

re: #191 reine.de.tout

I wanted to make the purchase, was hoping you'd set up that Etsy store.
I'm going to put a link on my FB page.
OK with you?

Certainly.

194 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:53:22am

re: #193 Walter L. Newton

Certainly.

Can I steal it from Reine and put it on mine?

195 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:53:34am

re: #187 JasonA

Oh my God...

I just glanced at a stalker blog full of people swearing up and down they never heard of "porch ___" as a racist term. Were these people raised in an isolated compound or something?

Didn't they see Clerks II?

196 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:53:45am

re: #192 Fozzie Bear

Well, according to the Rolling Stone article, not a single permit request has been denied. Can you substantiate that permits have been delayed?

I've been posting in pages about this for weeks.

As I said above, this is from a press release from Jindal. I would like to see something from the Coast Guard or Corps of Engineers on this and I cannot find anything from THEM, I can only find various and sundry people speculating as to why the Corps of Engineers has not issued the permits.


Gov. Jindal Calls on Feds to Stop Obstructing, Join the War to Protect Louisiana's Coast
GRAND ISLE (July 2, 2010) - Today, Governor Bobby Jindal traveled to Barataria Bay and East Grand Terre Island – both off the coast of Grand Isle – where he viewed substantial oil impact in the marshes and repeated his call to the federal government to approve a containment plan put together by coastal leaders that will help stop the oil from further damaging the coastline. As more oil continues to rush towards the Louisiana coast, local officials have been waiting for weeks for final approval from the federal government to complete their rocks and barges plan to block oil from damaging interior marshes.

Governor Jindal said, “Jefferson and Plaquemines Parish together with the towns of Grand Isle and Lafitte have been pushing for weeks to get approval to place rocks in western Barataria Bay passes. Their plan calls for narrowing the passes by up to 70 percent with rocks, rigid pipe boom or other measures then placing barges with vacuum trucks and sorbent operations in the remaining gaps. This plan will help us fight the oil before it gets into our interior marshes with these plans.

“We continue to wait for federal approval for this work and urge the Army Corps of Engineers to approve these oil removal actions immediately. Weeks ago, the President came here and said we would get a call within hours. To date, we still do not have the federal approval we need. This is a war and we need the federal government in this war to win it. I want to be clear – losing this battle is not an option for Louisiana. We will win this war – and we will do it with them or without them.

197 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:55:15am

re: #194 Cannadian Club Akbar

Can I steal it from Reine and put it on mine?

Of course...

198 blueraven  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:56:24am

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]


Jindal's statement doesn't address the specific question of why Louisiana is using only 1,053 of the 6,000 National Guard troops available to the state. The governor said that he would "deploy every resource" available to win the war against the BP oil spill, and complained that Coast Guard and BP authorization were required for individual tasks, which apparently slowed down the deployment of National Guard troops. However, the governor's office told CBS News that he has not specifically asked for more National Guard troops.

Adm. Thad Allen, the federal government official in charge of the response to the BP oil spill, said, "There is nothing standing in the governor's way from utilizing more National Guard troops." The Coast Guard has typically approved requests to deploy National Guard troop in a day.

199 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:57:16am

re: #197 Walter L. Newton

Of course...

Done.

200 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:57:52am

re: #192 Fozzie Bear

Well, according to the Rolling Stone article, not a single permit request has been denied. Can you substantiate that permits have been delayed?

And . . .
I've tried to be very even-handed in discussing what's going on here.

I can only find things talking about the lack of permits being issued.
I cannot find anything talking about why the delay.

So - can YOU substantiate that all permits have been issued? With something from the permitting agency?

201 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:58:28am

re: #190 webevintage

and maybe a picture of the whole thing so people can see if there is a clasp in back or just a the rope.
People like more pictures...
I've found I sell better on Etsy if I add a couple of items every few days.
As it is those a lovely pieces.
Good luck!

Good idea... I will curl the cord into a small loop, so you can see it at the top of the picture... FYI... it's a 40 inch cord, tied off with two "hippy knots" (that's a term I have heard used to describe those kinds of knots) so it's adjustable. After tying, you get about 34 inches to play with, you can hang it low, or pull the knots right up to the silver swirls and get the standard 18 inch length.

202 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:58:50am

re: #198 blueraven

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

He can deploy them all he wants.
But if there is no work to be done because permits have not been issued, what's the point?

203 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 9:59:45am

re: #200 reine.de.tout

And . . .
I've tried to be very even-handed in discussing what's going on here.

I can only find things talking about the lack of permits being issued.
I cannot find anything talking about why the delay.

So - can YOU substantiate that all permits have been issued? With something from the permitting agency?

I'm just read the Rolling Stone article:

According to National Incident Commander Admiral Thad Allen, the responsibility for the delay rests directly with the Gulf governors: "It’s pretty much up to the governors, and how they want to deploy the National Guard," Allen said in response to a question from Rolling Stone during a press conference on June 23. The governors, he said, have to pre-clear the work they're assigning to the National Guard with the federal response team, but this is a formality. "We have not turned down any requests thus far," said Allen.

So either General Allen is lying, or no permits have been denied.

204 Fozzie Bear  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:00:36am

re: #203 Fozzie Bear

Or, as I said earlier, they have been delayed, not denied.

205 firstinla  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:00:45am

re: #184 Walter L. Newton

Another sale for you Walter. Beautiful work.

206 webevintage  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:02:30am

re: #184 Walter L. Newton

Look below the text and look at the materials tag... has all the material listed...

Materials - banded chrysocolla, wood beads, sterling silver rondels, sterling silver swirls, black silk rattail, base metal bail

[Link: www.etsy.com...]

Walter (if you don't mind my butting in) make sure you put the dominate color in your tags and you also want to list those materials in the tags section too, you can type in your own, because those will get picked up by the search.

207 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:03:32am

re: #205 firstinla

Another sale for you Walter. Beautiful work.

Really folks... all of you, thanks...

208 KingKenrod  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:03:34am

Why wouldn't Jindal deploy the guard if there were approved tasks waiting to be done?

Does anyone think Jindal is purposely not deploying the Guard to make Obama look bad? That sounds crazy to me...

209 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:04:27am

re: #203 Fozzie Bear

So either General Allen is lying, or no permits have been denied.

The Corps of Engineers has to issue permits for the berm work.

No permits= no work to be done.

You've got 3 players here - Corps of Engineers has to issue permits, Jindal deploys troops to do the work AFTER clearing it with Coast Guard.

It's the Corps of Engineers that has not issued the permits.

I never said Thad Allen is lying, those are YOUR words. Again, I've tried to be very even-handed in how I see things happening here.

But it's obvious that people don't even know how this works. Again, the Corps of Engineers has to issue the permits BEFORE the work can begin. There is no point in deploying troops if there is no work available because the Corps has not issued the permits.

For the few permits that HAVE been issued, National Guard troops have been deployed, and their work was cleared first by the Coast Guard.

Good gawd.
So easy to see why people are confused, Rolling Stone did a piss-poor job of reporting this.

210 webevintage  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:04:51am

re: #201 Walter L. Newton

Good idea... I will curl the cord into a small loop, so you can see it at the top of the picture... FYI... it's a 40 inch cord, tied off with two "hippy knots" (that's a term I have heard used to describe those kinds of knots) so it's adjustable. After tying, you get about 34 inches to play with, you can hang it low, or pull the knots right up to the silver swirls and get the standard 18 inch length.

and the reason I say show a picture is that I know from experience that people will skim a description and then be all "well I didn't know there was a stain" when I went to great lengths to tell them there was a stain on a garment...if there is a picture I seem to not have those issues.

211 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:05:21am

Reine, check this...
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

212 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:05:30am

re: #206 webevintage

Walter (if you don't mind my butting in) make sure you put the dominate color in your tags and you also want to list those materials in the tags section too, you can type in your own, because those will get picked up by the search.

No... i don't mind... I will do that when I start my next batch of listings... which will be next week during my days off... I have about 5-6 stones recently cut and polished, and I have to build them into the chokers... I also have some of my Totem Ties series I need to put up.

213 joest73  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:07:15am

re: #165 webevintage

Yeah I read Steele's bullshit this morning.
But whatever, if American's are stupid enough to believe the shit the Republicans are serving up and vote them back into power in Nov they will get exactly what they deserve.

I'll take the shit the republicans are serving up over this clusterf**k scatterbrain approach President Obama is taking right now.

But I have no faith that the Republicans can win back control of anything with Steele leading the RNC. Does this man think before he talks. Now Bill Kristol is calling for him to resign.

214 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:08:08am

re: #211 Cannadian Club Akbar

Reine, check this...
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

From that link:

The Obama administration can also permit more state and local initiatives. The media endlessly report stories of county and state officials applying federal permits to perform various actions, such as building sand berms around the Louisiana coast. In some cases, they were forbidden from acting. In others there have been extensive delays in obtaining permission.

I have no doubt that the Coast Guard is approving every request for deployment of National Guard.

That isn't the problem.

The problem is that the Corps of Engineers had delayed permit issuance that would make work available for National Guard to be called to perform.

215 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:08:49am

re: #208 KingKenrod

Why wouldn't Jindal deploy the guard if there were approved tasks waiting to be done?

Does anyone think Jindal is purposely not deploying the Guard to make Obama look bad? That sounds crazy to me...

Destroying your state to make a President look bad is crazy. But I don't think you are. It was just a question.

216 webevintage  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:09:30am

re: #214 reine.de.tout

I have no doubt that the Coast Guard is approving every request for deployment of National Guard.

That isn't the problem.

The problem is that the Corps of Engineers had delayed permit issuance that would make work available for National Guard to be called to perform.


I'm glad you are here to put all the various sides of the story together for us....
Seriously.

217 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:11:02am

re: #216 webevintage

I'm glad you are here to put all the various sides of the story together for us...
Seriously.

Reine is why I stopped commenting on stuff earlier. I know she has this stuff at her fingertips.

218 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:12:04am

re: #214 reine.de.tout

I have no doubt that the Coast Guard is approving every request for deployment of National Guard.

That isn't the problem.

The problem is that the Corps of Engineers had delayed permit issuance that would make work available for National Guard to be called to perform.

And blah blah blah, nobody wants to hear it, they want to believe the Rolling Stone article because it's all Jindal's fault.

Jindal is not my favorite politician, and I started warning about him wayyyy before Obama was even elected, back in the day when there were many more conservatives here and they were all on the Jindal bandwagon as the hope of the Republican party. Jindal is a terrible governor, overall.

However, he has worked tirelessly on this oil spill business. I swear, we're gonna have to coin a new term, JDS (Jindal Derangement Syndrome).

219 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:12:15am

I sure am glad I started drinking early.:)

220 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:13:30am

re: #216 webevintage

I'm glad you are here to put all the various sides of the story together for us...
Seriously.

Aw, thanks.
I've about had it with a few folks here who are determined to BLAME SOMEBODY, some want to blame Obama, some want to blame Jindal.

It's silly. There are real problems here, one of them being the Corps of Engineers delay in issuing the damned permits. There is no need to go off into an Obama hate-fest or a Jindal hate-fest.

221 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:13:44am

re: #218 reine.de.tout

His rebuttal to the Presidents State of the Union speech sucked, too.

222 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:14:46am

re: #221 Cannadian Club Akbar

His rebuttal to the Presidents State of the Union speech sucked, too.

Big-time.
Jindal is not a handsome man.
But he looked just creepy in that rebuttal speech. He doesn't look nearly that weird in real-life.
But his speech was major sucky.

223 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:16:43am

re: #222 reine.de.tout

Big-time.
Jindal is not a handsome man.
But he looked just creepy in that rebuttal speech. He doesn't look nearly that weird in real-life.
But his speech was major sucky.

And while I just bashed a Republican speech, I'll be fair and balanced. The President's inauguration speech sucked as well.

224 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:17:37am

re: #222 reine.de.tout

Kinda like the Nixon/Kennedy debate:

Nixon: Well I would suggest, Mr. Vancouver, that if you knew the
President that, that was just a facetious remark.

Announcer: And now a word from our sponsor.

Kennedy: I would like to take this opportunity to announce my
fondness for, ah, Duff Beer. [audience cheers]

Nixon: I'd also like to express, er, my fondness for that
particular beer. [audience grumbles]

Homer: The man never drank a Duff in his life.

225 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:17:43am

re: #187 JasonA

Oh my God...

I just glanced at a stalker blog full of people swearing up and down they never heard of "porch ___" as a racist term. Were these people raised in an isolated compound or something?

Well, I use that term to refer to pre-teens in general.

226 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:18:11am

re: #165 webevintage

...if American's are stupid enough to believe the shit the Republicans are serving up and vote them back into power in Nov they will get exactly what they deserve.

That's right. Just like the administration we have now.

227 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:19:54am

re: #225 MandyManners

Well, I use that term to refer to pre-teens in general.

NSFW (or in some cases, anything)

Youtube Video
228 Ericus58  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:21:02am

BREAKING NEWS:

Unmanned cargo craft fails in bid to dock with International Space station

No further news at this time.

229 webevintage  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:21:07am

Hind sight being 20/20 I do find it interesting that over and over we hear how the Feds should be doing this or that, but it sounds like by law much is left to the state to do. And while this is not a slam at Jindal (I would not be surprised if in a lot of states the disaster offices are the first to get cut...but we do know how Jindal feels about paying attention to volcanos and such) it does show why the people who plan for disasters and real disaster plans are pretty important.

But a review of Louisiana’s prespill preparation suggests that the state may be open to the same criticisms that Mr. Jindal has leveled at BP and federal authorities.

The state has an oil spill coordinator’s office. Its staff shrank by half over the last decade, and the 17-year-old oil spill research and development program that is associated with the office had its annual $750,000 in financing cut last year. The coordinator is responsible for drawing up and signing off on spill contingency plans with the Coast Guard and a committee of federal, state and local officials.

Some of these plans are rife with omissions, including pages of blank charts that are supposed to detail available supplies of equipment like oil-skimming vessels. A draft action plan for a worst case is among many requirements in the southeast Louisiana proposal listed as “to be developed.”
````````````````````````````````````````````
On May 3, Mr. Jindal went public with his dissatisfaction.
“We kept being assured over and over that they had a plan, that there was a detailed plan, that it was coming; we never got that plan,” he said.
But under the law, oil spill experts said, there are only two kinds of government plans pertaining to spills, and the state is partly responsible for both.

There are area contingency plans, which the state helps draw up and are meant to be in place when a spill occurs; and there are action plans, which the state helps put together on a day-to-day basis after a spill.
It is just as much the state’s responsibility as anyone’s if a spill occurs and there is no up-to-date contingency plan, said Donald S. Jensen, a retired Coast Guard captain who coordinated the response to several major oil spills.

"After a spill happens is not the time to make a plan," he added.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

230 Mad Al-Jaffee  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:21:35am

re: #228 Ericus58

BREAKING NEWS:

Unmanned cargo craft fails in bid to dock with International Space station

That's Bush's fault!

231 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:21:58am

re: #227 Walter L. Newton

Did Kevin Smith write that?

232 webevintage  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:22:28am

re: #226 Leonidas Hoplite

That's right. Just like the administration we have now.

You know what they say about opinions.
I would be safe to say that things could even be worse if McCain and the grifter were now in office....

233 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:23:22am

re: #231 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did Kevin Smith write that?

Yes.

234 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:24:07am

re: #233 Walter L. Newton

Yes.

I LOVE when writers have no fear. Fuckin' funny.

235 blueraven  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:24:25am

re: #220 reine.de.tout

Aw, thanks.
I've about had it with a few folks here who are determined to BLAME SOMEBODY, some want to blame Obama, some want to blame Jindal.

It's silly. There are real problems here, one of them being the Corps of Engineers delay in issuing the damned permits. There is no need to go off into an Obama hate-fest or a Jindal hate-fest.

I agree completely. The main problem is just the entire scope of this spill and the lack of a plan for worst case scenarios...by everyone; The oil companies, state, local, and federal governments.

Now they are having to review plans to make sure they don't do more harm than good in the long run. This sort of stuff should have been in place as contingencies. Now we are having to do it on the fly. No way to respond to an emergency.

The blame game is the result of lack of preparedness.

236 Obdicut  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:25:06am

re: #227 Walter L. Newton

That clip nicely shows why language is not the property of any one person; you can't take a phrase back. People who know 'porch monkey' in a racist context-- i.e. most people, and especially most black people-- aren't going to understand its non-racist usage.

I had to explain to a dude the other day that "gook" did not actually mean the same thing as "geek". I don't know how that particular linguistic mixup occurred for him.

All languages are fun and powerful; the English language is one of the most powerful, given its richness, but this same power also means its usage requires more attention than a lot of other languages. English is the stick-shift in a world of automatic languages.

237 webevintage  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:25:30am

re: #230 Mad Al-Jaffee

That's Bush's fault!

hahahaha
The Daily Show had a funny bit last week about the blame game.
I can't find it though....

238 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:26:11am

re: #234 Cannadian Club Akbar

I LOVE when writers have no fear. Fuckin' funny.

And out of context, it sounds extremely offensive, I'm glad that whoever put that clip up edited carefully to include enough of the scene to see the context.

239 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:26:42am

re: #232 webevintage

You know what they say about opinions.
I would be safe to say that things could even be worse if McCain and the grifter were now in office...

Maybe, maybe not. We'll never know. So far Obama has been a disapointment but there is still time for him to turn it around. We'll see.

240 Soap_Man  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:27:12am

I've been meaning to do it for awhile, and now i just did.

Bought the cookbook!

241 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:27:50am

re: #236 Obdicut

That clip nicely shows why language is not the property of any one person; you can't take a phrase back. People who know 'porch monkey' in a racist context-- i.e. most people, and especially most black people-- aren't going to understand its non-racist usage.

I had to explain to a dude the other day that "gook" did not actually mean the same thing as "geek". I don't know how that particular linguistic mixup occurred for him.

All languages are fun and powerful; the English language is one of the most powerful, given its richness, but this same power also means its usage requires more attention than a lot of other languages. English is the stick-shift in a world of automatic languages.

For sure... Smith has a point to make most of the time, and he does it by comically approaching it head on... certainly not nuanced at all.

242 allegro  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:29:42am

Just a quick point about sand berms if I may... I'm not a marine or wetlands biologist, however there is a major symbiotic relationships between the Gulf waters and those marshes that requires a continuous in and outflow between them. Without the Gulf currents bringing in nutrients and oxygenating the march waters, they can pretty quickly grow stagnant and build up algae. The currents also carry away detritus and such that sucks further oxygen out of the water. While significant sand berms may temporarily halt oil from entering the marshes, they introduce other problems that have to be considered.

243 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:30:52am

re: #242 allegro

2 words. Thompson Pumps.

244 Obdicut  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:32:21am

re: #241 Walter L. Newton

I'd disagree, and say it's very nuanced. Smith excels at demonstrating why bad ideas are bad ideas. It's his strength.

245 Four More Tears  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:33:31am

re: #225 MandyManners

Well, I use that term to refer to pre-teens in general.

Seriously?

246 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:34:06am

Going upthread...

247 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:36:02am

re: #236 Obdicut

That clip nicely shows why language is not the property of any one person; you can't take a phrase back. People who know 'porch monkey' in a racist context-- i.e. most people, and especially most black people-- aren't going to understand its non-racist usage.

I had to explain to a dude the other day that "gook" did not actually mean the same thing as "geek". I don't know how that particular linguistic mixup occurred for him.

All languages are fun and powerful; the English language is one of the most powerful, given its richness, but this same power also means its usage requires more attention than a lot of other languages. English is the stick-shift in a world of automatic languages.

"Gook" is only racist from a user's intent. In Korean it just means "People". They are the Hanguk, Americans are the Mi-guk. It's all in the context and intent.

248 Obdicut  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:38:52am

re: #247 Decatur Deb

Yes. But from a white guy referring casually to our IT support staff-- who are mainly Vietnamese and Korean-- it was a sure recipe for trouble.

249 Four More Tears  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:39:44am

re: #248 Obdicut

Yes. But from a white guy referring casually to our IT support staff-- who are mainly Vietnamese and Korean-- it was a sure recipe for trouble.

Ouch. A perfect storm.

250 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:41:10am

What's an NPR fundraiser without Celtic Women?

O America

Youtube Video
251 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:44:03am

re: #245 JasonA

Seriously?

Seriously. And, pre-Ker's as "crumb-crunchers".

252 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 11:05:49am

re: #242 allegro

Just a quick point about sand berms if I may... I'm not a marine or wetlands biologist, however there is a major symbiotic relationships between the Gulf waters and those marshes that requires a continuous in and outflow between them. Without the Gulf currents bringing in nutrients and oxygenating the march waters, they can pretty quickly grow stagnant and build up algae. The currents also carry away detritus and such that sucks further oxygen out of the water. While significant sand berms may temporarily halt oil from entering the marshes, they introduce other problems that have to be considered.

Then I wish the Corps of Engineers would say so.

253 prairiefire  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 12:21:24pm

re: #170 Walter L. Newton

Reine... took you suggestion, set up a store on Etsy... we'll see what happens... on 6 items up right now, will be more next week...

[Link: www.etsy.com...]

I like your store name, "hummingbirdcustom".

254 boxhead  Fri, Jul 2, 2010 10:38:38pm

Good work Charles..... I sent you some love! thanks!

255 Timmeh  Sat, Jul 3, 2010 6:26:48am

I never pay for anything if I can have it for free.

Until now.

Thanks Charles. Keep up the good work!


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