Green Lantern #55, September 1967: 'Cosmic Enemy Number One'

Green Lantern #55, September 1967: ‘Cosmic Enemy Number One’

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The Green Lantern movie is coming out next year, and that’s all the excuse I need to post another comic book cover from the Lizard Collection: Green Lantern #55, published in September 1967. Our copy is in excellent condition with minor spine stresses, sharp corners, and bright inks; it isn’t the most valuable book in the collection, but it’s worth a lot more than the original 12 cents.

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The back cover’s pretty cool too; I actually built this model kit, once upon a time in a land far, far away.

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And here’s the trailer for the film:

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160 comments

insanity police Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:10:37pm

If he dies in the comic book, does the likely bad movie still come out soon?

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:16:03pm

OK, I’m hooked. What happened in the story?

;-)

Kragar (Antichrist ) Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:16:31pm

re: #2 Sergey Romanov

OK, I’m hooked. What happened in the story?

;-)

Things.

Charles Johnson Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:17:55pm

re: #2 Sergey Romanov

OK, I’m hooked. What happened in the story?

;-)

Here you go - the story in detail:

www.captaincomics.us

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:18:41pm

re: #4 Charles

Here you go - the story in detail:

[Link: www.captaincomics.us…]

Thanks!

First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:30:41pm

Heresy incoming:

Did DC Comics contract with Michael Bay and Uwe Boll? Must the Batman mythos forever be the only 21st century adaptation that isn’t rendered 100% terrible on screen?

End heresy.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:32:00pm

re: #6 negativ

Heresy incoming:

Did DC Comics contract with Michael Bay and Uwe Boll? Must the Batman mythos forever be the only 21st century adaptation that isn’t rendered 100% terrible on screen?

End heresy.

Never a GL fan, but I’m looking forward to Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool.

Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:33:02pm

Pew Research News IQ Quiz
I got 11 out of 12 but I did guess on a few.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:38:51pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Pew Research News IQ Quiz
I got 11 out of 12 but I did guess on a few.

10 of 12, missed the inflation and unemployment numbers. I guessed higher.

albusteve Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:39:57pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Pew Research News IQ Quiz
I got 11 out of 12 but I did guess on a few.

I got ten, better than I deserve

Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:40:10pm

re: #9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I missed the Tarp question and it’s a story I’ve been following.

Fozzie Bear Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:40:40pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

11. I can’t believe i forgot the PM of Great Britain. I should be flogged.

Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:41:09pm

re: #12 Fozzie Bear

11. I can’t believe i forgot the PM of Great Britain. I should be flogged.

Heh. I had to guess on that one too.

albusteve Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:41:51pm

re: #11 Killgore Trout

I missed the Tarp question and it’s a story I’ve been following.

I missed the TARP and Prime Minister….the latter probably pretty dumb

reine.de.tout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:42:23pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Pew Research News IQ Quiz
I got 11 out of 12 but I did guess on a few.

I also got 11 correct - I missed the “rate of inflation” one.

albusteve Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:42:48pm

re: #15 reine.de.tout

I also got 11 correct - I missed the “rate of inflation” one.

YOU DOPE!

Stanley Sea Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:43:35pm

Fucking A.

12 out of 12.

My time on the net has not been wasted. heh

Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:44:10pm

re: #15 reine.de.tout

I also got 11 correct - I missed the “rate of inflation” one.

Technically I think we’re still in deflation, below 0%.

Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:44:33pm

re: #17 Stanley Sea

Fucking A.

12 out of 12.

My time on the net has not been wasted. heh

You’re king of the hill!

Fozzie Bear Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:44:36pm

re: #15 reine.de.tout

I also got 11 correct - I missed the “rate of inflation” one.

I got lucky on that one. I was JUST listening to NPR news when they did the economics part, and they mentioned the last quarter’s inflation rate.

It seems odd to me that inflation is only 1%, when my personal experience has been much more than that. Does it factor in real estate prices? That might explain it. Or it just sucks more here, lol.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:44:57pm

re: #17 Stanley Sea

Fucking A.

12 out of 12.

My time on the net has not been wasted. heh

Oh yeah?

Name the cast of Jersey Shore?

reine.de.tout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:45:10pm

re: #16 albusteve

YOU DOPE!

*snort*
Actually, unsurprising - I don’t much pay attention to that, but the actual answer of 1% is good news for me as a retiree!

What’s frightening to me is how many people got half or less than half of the answers correct. I would suspect those of us here at LGF would do much better, as a rule, then the general population. We’re here because we are INTERESTED in keeping up with things.

wrenchwench Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:46:46pm

I fooled the quiz. It says I got 11 right, but when I look at the question by question results, it says I missed two, but I really only missed one.

Fozzie Bear Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:47:22pm

re: #22 reine.de.tout

I can’t imagine anybody who follows this blog regularly missing a lot of those. If you do really poorly on that quiz, this site would seem mighty uninteresting to you.

Our entire country is like Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds.

reine.de.tout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:48:07pm

LSU is behind, but has the ball and there 8 minutes left.
Everybody, please pray.

……….

Touchdown? As I was typing this?
gee, thanks y’all!

Kragar (Antichrist ) Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:48:23pm

re: #24 Fozzie Bear

I can’t imagine anybody who follows this blog regularly missing a lot of those. If you do really poorly on that quiz, this site would seem mighty uninteresting to you.

Our entire country is like Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds.

Except Ogre changed his ways in the second movie.

Stanley Sea Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:48:29pm

re: #21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Oh yeah?

Name the cast of Jersey Shore?

Snookie, The Situation, fool #3, fool #4, fool #5

Good enough?

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:48:59pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Here’s Your Score: You correctly answered 12 out of the 12 possible questions, which means you did better on the quiz than 99% of the general public.

I did take a guess a couple of times though.

Fozzie Bear Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:49:16pm

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Except Ogre changed his ways in the second movie.

See, I have some faith in my fellow man. ;)

Kragar (Antichrist ) Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:49:39pm

re: #27 Stanley Sea

Snookie, The Situation, fool #3, fool #4, fool #5

Good enough?

The fact you knew 2 of them proves you have wasted time on the internet.

reine.de.tout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:50:13pm

re: #27 Stanley Sea

Snookie, The Situation, fool #3, fool #4, fool #5

Good enough?

I am completely flummoxed by the amount of attention paid by lots of folks in this country, to utter trash.

Fozzie Bear Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:51:34pm

The Situation is epic. I am in awe of his douchebagginess. He surpasses all douchebags who have come before him to claim his rightful place as king of all douchebags.

Stanley Sea Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:51:51pm

re: #30 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The fact you knew 2 of them proves you have wasted time on the internet.

OK, let me try to justify.

John McCain tweets to Snookie.

Bristol Palin has a Candies PSA about sex with the Situation.

Yep, too much time.

First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:52:23pm

re: #7 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Never a GL fan, but I’m looking forward to Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool.

Aside from all things Batman, my superhero comic book obsessions involved the X-Men, the Amazing Spiderman, and the Silver Surfer.

Filmwise:

X-Men: Whoa, pretty cool! Excellent adaptation of Wolverine, and it’s hard to imagine a better fit than Patrick Stewart for Professor Xavier. Also, Mystique. Hubba.

X-Men 2: Holy shit, Xavier and Magneto would probably rule the world for better or for worse, except for the fucking Holocaust.

X-Men 3: Derp da terpty toop da dumpty derpa donka poo.

—-

Spiderman: OK, here’s the story of Peter Parker. Bonus: Willem DaFoe as the villain.

Spiderman II: Hey folks, remember that I am the same dude responsible for the Evil Dead movies, and also Army of Darkness. Sci-fi and horror nerds world-wide love it. So this film is going to be Spiderman through the prism of my earlier horror films, and OMFG it will be wonderful.

Spiderman 3: Derp da terpty toop da dumpty derpa donka poo.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:54:17pm

re: #34 negativ

Aside from all things Batman, my superhero comic book obsessions involved the X-Men, the Amazing Spiderman, and the Silver Surfer.

Filmwise:

X-Men: Whoa, pretty cool! Excellent adaptation of Wolverine, and it’s hard to imagine a better fit than Patrick Stewart for Professor Xavier. Also, Mystique. Hubba.

X-Men 2: Holy shit, Xavier and Magneto would probably rule the world for better or for worse, except for the fucking Holocaust.

X-Men 3: Derp da terpty toop da dumpty derpa donka poo.

—-

Spiderman: OK, here’s the story of Peter Parker. Bonus: Willem DaFoe as the villain.

Spiderman II: Hey folks, remember that I am the same dude responsible for the Evil Dead movies, and also Army of Darkness. Sci-fi and horror nerds world-wide love it. So this film is going to be Spiderman through the prism of my earlier horror films, and OMFG it will be wonderful.

Spiderman 3: Derp da terpty toop da dumpty derpa donka poo.

They went straight to the Derp with Iron Man II.

Fozzie Bear Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:54:25pm

Speaking of movies, do not under any circumstances go and see Skyline. I can say without hesitation that it is the worst movie I have ever seen, but not because of the special effects. No, this movie was the the worst I have ever seen despite having excellent special effects. That, my friends, is an accomplishment.

Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:54:32pm

re: #23 wrenchwench

I fooled the quiz. It says I got 11 right, but when I look at the question by question results, it says I missed two, but I really only missed one.

There’s some bug in the script. In the “email to a friend form” it sez:

I correctly answered 12 out of the 11 possible questions, on the Pew News IQ Quiz!

Stanley Sea Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:55:22pm

They score, excessive celebration penalty. BS

Kragar (Antichrist ) Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:56:04pm

re: #36 Fozzie Bear

Speaking of movies, do not under any circumstances go and see Skyline. I can say without hesitation that it is the worst movie I have ever seen, but not because of the special effects. No, this movie was the the worst I have ever seen despite having excellent special effects. That, my friends, is an accomplishment.

Would it suprise you to know the people behind Skyline are being sued by Sony for stealing the special effects and other intellectual property?

reine.de.tout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 3:56:13pm

re: #38 Stanley Sea

They score, excessive celebration penalty. BS

argh.

Fozzie Bear Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:00:07pm

re: #39 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Would it suprise you to know the people behind Skyline are being sued by Sony for stealing the special effects and other intellectual property?

Not at all.

Here is part of a review which perfectly sums up my feelings about Skyline:

You ever have one of those nights where two of your buddies show up at your house at 11:30, high as the day is long and insisting that they have to tell you something AWESOME? I don’t mean they’re giggling a lot; I mean they’ve smoked themselves retarded. And as they sit there on your couch, clearly off in a world much better than the one you’re still sober in, they begin talking about “the best movie ever made”, which happens to be locked right there in their heads. You know the one I’m talking about: the one with hot chicks, sports cars and brain eating alien invaders with giant toothy space vaginas for mouths. Yeah. And those two assholes riff on your couch for an hour and a half about how awesome their movie would be…if only someone would be smart enough to give them $10 Million to make it.

SKYLINE is what happens when someone shows up with a $10 million check and never lets these two geniuses sober up enough to realize just how fucking asinine their idea really is.

The Brothers Strauss are perhaps the single most inept filmmaking duo working in the studio system today. There isn’t a moment here they get right, not a single decision they make that doesn’t end ridiculously. In fact, there are three chief moments in the film where they seem to be making bold, inspired choices, only to completely fuck it up each time. The film opens with light descending from the skies – the alien invasion beginning right there in frame one. Wow, you think. They sure are dispensing with the bullshit. There’s no foreplay, no dicking around; just aliens showing up to kick some ass. And then, a moment later, just as things are getting really interesting, the movie jumps back 15 hours to give us 20 minutes of needless exposition (that never amounts to anything) about wafer thin characters we never are allowed to really give a shit about anyway.

Honestly, who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to make an alien invasion movie that, rather than following around scientists or soldiers or reporters or anyone interesting, follows around a group of AFFLICTION wearing, narcissistic, LA douchebags “living the life” off of new money they have no qualms about throwing around? These aren’t the types of people we want to connect with – these are the first ones to die in every other film EVER MADE. They are every bit as hollow, vapid and unlikable as they are when they are *supposed to be* hollow, vapid and unlikable; only here they get to be the protagonists. And the Brothers Strauss have no idea how to make them in any way endearing. They are thoroughly unlikable and just plain annoying from beginning to end. So when they start dropping off like flies, you not only aren’t invested in them, you kind of wish they would die off faster.

Fozzie Bear Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:00:50pm

woops, the review i quoted can be found here.

AlexRogan Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:03:25pm

re: #34 negativ

Aside from all things Batman, my superhero comic book obsessions involved the X-Men, the Amazing Spiderman, and the Silver Surfer.

Filmwise:

X-Men: Whoa, pretty cool! Excellent adaptation of Wolverine, and it’s hard to imagine a better fit than Patrick Stewart for Professor Xavier. Also, Mystique. Hubba.

X-Men 2: Holy shit, Xavier and Magneto would probably rule the world for better or for worse, except for the fucking Holocaust.

X-Men 3: Derp da terpty toop da dumpty derpa donka poo.

—-

Spiderman: OK, here’s the story of Peter Parker. Bonus: Willem DaFoe as the villain.

Spiderman II: Hey folks, remember that I am the same dude responsible for the Evil Dead movies, and also Army of Darkness. Sci-fi and horror nerds world-wide love it. So this film is going to be Spiderman through the prism of my earlier horror films, and OMFG it will be wonderful.

Spiderman 3: Derp da terpty toop da dumpty derpa donka poo.

That’s the thing about sequels…with the exception of Star Trek, Indiana Jones, Back to the Future, Harry Potter, and (marginally) Star Wars (to name a few big franchises), most movies that make a go at a trilogy (or more) have a great, good, or merely serviceable first sequel, then goes to shit after that.

It typically comes down to something like Big Ass Movie 3: The Quest For More Money…

First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:04:21pm

re: #35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They went straight to the Derp with Iron Man II.

I liked the first Iron Man, haven’t seen the 2nd. Is it really that bad? It’s EXTREMELY hard to imagine an insult more grievous than that applied to the Silver Surfer in that gawd-awful Fantastic Four movie, but I guess anything’s possible.

Stanley Sea Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:06:44pm

Congrats Reine!

wrenchwench Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:07:01pm

I had a coin bank the shape of the space capsule on the back cover of the comic book. I suppose I was saving up to go to the moon. The Spaceport is almost ready. [Uh oh, there’s a crescent….] Unfortunately, my savings program seems to have been sidetracked.

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albusteve Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:09:03pm

re: #46 wrenchwench

I had a coin bank the shape of the space capsule on the back cover of the comic book. I suppose I was saving up to go to the moon. The Spaceport is almost ready. [Uh oh, there’s a crescent…] Unfortunately, my savings program seems to have been sidetracked.

I wanna be a Space Agent!

Surabaya Stew Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:10:17pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Pew Research News IQ Quiz
I got 11 out of 12 but I did guess on a few.

According to the stats, only 6% of americans got at least 10 questions correct. That’s sad. Not to brag, because I did guess on a couple….but I got all 12 right!

Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:14:42pm

re: #48 Surabaya Stew

According to the stats, only 6% of americans got at least 10 questions correct. That’s sad. Not to brag, because I did guess on a couple…but I got all 12 right!

It’s also an important reminder that news/political junkies are not mainstream Americans. We might think that the rise of the Birch society will chase moderates away from the GOP but most Americans have no clue. They vore for the candidate who looks nice and has a few snappy catch phrases.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:15:40pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

It’s also an important reminder that news/political junkies are not mainstream Americans. We might think that the rise of the Birch society will chase moderates away from the GOP but most Americans have no clue. They vore for the candidate who looks nice and has a few snappy catch phrases.

I simply consult the Magic 8 Ball before I vote.

jamesfirecat Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:17:23pm

I’m gonna go horribly OT here for a moment to the degree that this sort of thing might have its own page. But do you know what f***ing sucks, when someone you’ve been working with over the internet for what feels like two or three years to edit the stories you write in your free time suddenly turns out to be the kind of guy you wonder if you’d ever be friends with in the first place if you had known him better.

Some highlights of the conversation…

Me: Then knowing that I’m opening a can of worms here… why do you think it is wrong?

Him: “Two reasons. 1) My Bible tells me it’s wrong. 2) I have a personal relationship with the author of that book and I agree with Him that it’s unnatural. And kinda creepy.

ME: However I ask you.., at what point is deviant behavior acceptable and at what point is it not, when the behavior harms no one…?

HIM: How do you know it harms no one? I’ve heard rumors of psychologial harms from not interfacing with the opposite gender. It’s nothing I can point to, but I think I read a study somewhere.

He’s a nice guy who has committed hours of his free time reading through my work and correcting spelling mistakes and what not.

He’s against DADT for what that is worth (don’t want to ask about gay marriage as it would probably set off another bomb between us).

But like all Liberals I’m wracked with guilt as I ask myself, where does the line between being live and let live and silently endorsing someones behavior get drawn?

If I cut ties with this person am I being just as intolerant as he is am I doing the mature thing? What kind of friendship can we have when I want to cry out to the heavens that you can’t put your faith in god or any of his rules ahead of obvious basic common sense like refusing to punish people for things that aren’t under their control?

Where the f*** do I go from here?

jamesfirecat Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:18:50pm

re: #43 talon_262

That’s the thing about sequels…with the exception of Star Trek, Indiana Jones, Back to the Future, Harry Potter, and (marginally) Star Wars (to name a few big franchises), most movies that make a go at a trilogy (or more) have a great, good, or merely serviceable first sequel, then goes to shit after that.

It typically comes down to something like Big Ass Movie 3: The Quest For More Money…

Hey I am still eagerly awaiting Spaceballs 2: The Search for more money!

Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:19:30pm

re: #51 jamesfirecat

I’m gonna go horribly OT here for a moment to the degree that this sort of thing might have its own page. But do you know what f***ing sucks, when someone you’ve been working with over the internet for what feels like two or three years to edit the stories you write in your free time suddenly turns out to be the kind of guy you wonder if you’d ever be friends with in the first place if you had known him better.

Some highlights of the conversation…

Me: Then knowing that I’m opening a can of worms here… why do you think it is wrong?

Him: “Two reasons. 1) My Bible tells me it’s wrong. 2) I have a personal relationship with the author of that book and I agree with Him that it’s unnatural. And kinda creepy.

ME: However I ask you.., at what point is deviant behavior acceptable and at what point is it not, when the behavior harms no one…?

HIM: How do you know it harms no one? I’ve heard rumors of psychologial harms from not interfacing with the opposite gender. It’s nothing I can point to, but I think I read a study somewhere.

He’s a nice guy who has committed hours of his free time reading through my work and correcting spelling mistakes and what not.

He’s against DADT for what that is worth (don’t want to ask about gay marriage as it would probably set off another bomb between us).

But like all Liberals I’m wracked with guilt as I ask myself, where does the line between being live and let live and silently endorsing someones behavior get drawn?

If I cut ties with this person am I being just as intolerant as he is am I doing the mature thing? What kind of friendship can we have when I want to cry out to the heavens that you can’t put your faith in god or any of his rules ahead of obvious basic common sense like refusing to punish people for things that aren’t under their control?

Where the f*** do I go from here?

Email Dr. Laura.

AlexRogan Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:20:18pm

re: #39 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Would it suprise you to know the people behind Skyline are being sued by Sony for stealing the special effects and other intellectual property?

Not really…of the trailers I’ve seen of Skyline, the first thing that struck me was how much of the style of the special effects they seem to have cribbed from Independence Day.

Apprently, the people that did Skyline run a SFX house that was doing work for Sony Pictures on a potentially competing project:

In August 2010 it was reported that Sony Pictures Entertainment is contemplating legal action against Greg and Colin Strause, the directors of Skyline and the owners of Hydraulx Filmz. Sony paid Hydraulx to generate visual effects work for Battle: Los Angeles. But Hydraulx never informed Sony the siblings were directing a rival alien invasion feature, similarly driven by special effects, scheduled for release four months prior to Sony’s feature. A rep for the Strause issued a statement: “Any claims of impropriety are completely baseless. This is a blatant attempt by Sony to force these independent filmmakers to move a release date that has long been set by Universal and Relativity and is outside the filmmakers’ control”.[11]

Yeah, they’re probably guilty as sin…

wrenchwench Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:21:26pm

re: #51 jamesfirecat

That happens in the meat world too, not just the internet.

Where the f*** do I go from here?

You flail about, do something, regret it, do something else next time, learn something, and keep going. If you’re lucky, you get to become old while you’re working on it.

/not Dr. Laura, but I heard her on the radio once.

Stanley Sea Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:22:36pm

re: #51 jamesfirecat

With your heart. What can you handle or not handle?

Be true to yourself.

jamesfirecat Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:23:21pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

That happens in the meat world too, not just the internet.

You flail about, do something, regret it, do something else next time, learn something, and keep going. If you’re lucky, you get to become old while you’re working on it.

/not Dr. Laura, but I heard her on the radio once.

It’s probably easier to happen on the internet though because you only interface with these people on a limited number of issues and never see their faces.

You know “everyone on the net is male” is the common male assumption?

Well I just got bitchslapped by a bad case of “everyone on the the non political parts of the web is liberal.” fallacy…

albusteve Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:23:32pm

re: #53 Walter L. Newton

Email Dr. Laura.

I’ve decided that politics takes up way too much time for many people….hand wringing, insecure cup cakes….oh my, what to do!

jamesfirecat Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:24:45pm

re: #56 Stanley Sea

With your heart. What can you handle or not handle?

Be true to yourself.

I can handle, because at least he compartmentalizes his bieliefs between what he thinks and how we should govern…

wrenchwench Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:25:05pm

re: #57 jamesfirecat

It’s probably easier to happen on the internet though because you only interface with these people on a limited number of issues and never see their faces.

It’s really fun when it’s family.

/not enough sarc tags on the internet

Surabaya Stew Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:25:16pm

re: #51 jamesfirecat

Hey James, I know this might seem like locking the stable after the horses have left, but its crucial to get an idea of a person’s political beliefs and social sensibilities before you start getting very involved with them. IMHO, If they are very different from yours and they can’t keep their feelings to themselves, then the relationship is doomed in the long run.

Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:26:21pm

re: #58 albusteve

I’ve decided that politics takes up way too much time for many people…hand wringing, insecure cup cakes…oh my, what to do!

I have it easy… because I don’t have to get along with everyone… if I don’t agree with someone, I tell them, if I don’t like someone, I tell them, if I think someone is detrimental to my well being, physically or mentally, I tell them to fuck off and I stop dealing with them. Anything else is codependent bullshit.

Stanley Sea Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:27:39pm

re: #58 albusteve

I’ve decided that politics takes up way too much time for many people…hand wringing, insecure cup cakes…oh my, what to do!

12 out of 12. It’s better to be knowledgeable. Bottom line.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:27:42pm

re: #51 jamesfirecat

I’m gonna go horribly OT here for a moment to the degree that this sort of thing might have its own page. But do you know what f***ing sucks, when someone you’ve been working with over the internet for what feels like two or three years to edit the stories you write in your free time suddenly turns out to be the kind of guy you wonder if you’d ever be friends with in the first place if you had known him better.

Some highlights of the conversation…

Me: Then knowing that I’m opening a can of worms here… why do you think it is wrong?

Him: “Two reasons. 1) My Bible tells me it’s wrong. 2) I have a personal relationship with the author of that book and I agree with Him that it’s unnatural. And kinda creepy.

ME: However I ask you.., at what point is deviant behavior acceptable and at what point is it not, when the behavior harms no one…?

HIM: How do you know it harms no one? I’ve heard rumors of psychologial harms from not interfacing with the opposite gender. It’s nothing I can point to, but I think I read a study somewhere.

He’s a nice guy who has committed hours of his free time reading through my work and correcting spelling mistakes and what not.

He’s against DADT for what that is worth (don’t want to ask about gay marriage as it would probably set off another bomb between us).

But like all Liberals I’m wracked with guilt as I ask myself, where does the line between being live and let live and silently endorsing someones behavior get drawn?

If I cut ties with this person am I being just as intolerant as he is am I doing the mature thing? What kind of friendship can we have when I want to cry out to the heavens that you can’t put your faith in god or any of his rules ahead of obvious basic common sense like refusing to punish people for things that aren’t under their control?

Where the f*** do I go from here?

Have you considered asking him if he realizes he’s full of shit?

jamesfirecat Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:28:45pm

re: #61 Surabaya Stew

Hey James, I know this might seem like locking the stable after the horses have left, but its crucial to get an idea of a person’s political beliefs and social sensibilities before you start getting very involved with them. IMHO, If they are very different from yours and they can’t keep their feelings to themselves, then the relationship is doomed in the long run.

Ehh… that is nice advice, and it’d be easy to follow, but by the same token, as Jon Stewart pointed out, outside of Washington we work together with the people we disagree with.

It wouldn’t make sense for me to stand up at work and say “Hey I’m a tax and spend marijuana leaglizing, rich envying, abortion protecting, liberal and if any of the rest of you disagree we need to have a long discussion about it because I can’t work in this envrionment otherwise…”

Man does not eat or live on convictions alone, no matter the cause of those convictions.

albusteve Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:29:02pm

re: #62 Walter L. Newton

I have it easy… because I don’t have to get along with everyone… if I don’t agree with someone, I tell them, if I don’t like someone, I tell them, if I think someone is detrimental to my well being, physically or mentally, I tell them to fuck off and I stop dealing with them. Anything else is codependent bullshit.

pretty much the same for me…fishing around for somebody’s political ideas is a shortcut to reaffirm your own…I could care less

jamesfirecat Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:29:59pm

re: #64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Have you considered asking him if he realizes he’s full of shit?

Yes.

I’ve also considered digging up clips of the people who used the bible to support segregation.

I’m not going to do that however because I know how holistic logic works….

Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:30:04pm

re: #65 jamesfirecat

Ehh… that is nice advice, and it’d be easy to follow, but by the same token, as Jon Stewart pointed out, outside of Washington we work together with the people we disagree with.

It wouldn’t make sense for me to stand up at work and say “Hey I’m a tax and spend marijuana leaglizing, rich envying, abortion protecting, liberal and if any of the rest of you disagree we need to have a long discussion about it because I can’t work in this envrionment otherwise…”

Man does not eat or live on convictions alone, no matter the cause of those convictions.

The fog is lifting.

albusteve Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:30:15pm

re: #63 Stanley Sea

12 out of 12. It’s better to be knowledgeable. Bottom line.

big whoop…did I say it’s less good to be stupid?

Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:31:12pm

Zero Punctuation: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II

albusteve Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:31:43pm

re: #68 Walter L. Newton

The fog is lifting.

“I never really knew WHO I was til I read poliblogs”
thank you
thank you

Kragar (Antichrist ) Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:32:39pm

I work with one YEC, a few Tea baggers, and one raging Code Pink style Liberal. They all know I think they’re full of shit, usually because I tell them flat out, several times a week, and we get along fine.

Political Atheist Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:33:38pm

re: #65 jamesfirecat

You can not eat or live with your convictions, your principles, but you can not sleep without them. My philosophy teacher had a message for me in another dilemma about walking away from a person or not.

The commonalities are our basis for learning and coexisting. The differences are where the hard part is. Where the hard lessons are. Some people we do have to walk away from. Who exactly I would not advise to anyone.

Walter L. Newton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:36:16pm

re: #72 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I work with one YEC, a few Tea baggers, and one raging Code Pink style Liberal. They all know I think they’re full of shit, usually because I tell them flat out, several times a week, and we get along fine.

My point exactly. Idealism is something you share and discuss with people you trust, close friends and attentive family members, the rest of the time, it’s reality you are facing, coworkers, other humans, the man/woman on the street, and your ideals and politics has nothing much to do with how you make it through a day.

jamesfirecat Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:36:43pm

re: #73 Rightwingconspirator

You can not eat or live with your convictions, your principles, but you can not sleep without them. My philosophy teacher had a message for me in another dilemma about walking away from a person or not.

The commonalities are our basis for learning and coexisting. The differences are where the hard part is. Where the hard lessons are. Some people we do have to walk away from. Who exactly I would not advise to anyone.

Yeah.

At the end of the day it seems like his beliefs fail the Thomas Pain rule of “neither breaks my leg or picks my pocket” so long as he isn’t in favor of making what he believes to be the truth the law of the land, it more or less makes sense to at least try to live and let live…

Surabaya Stew Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:37:49pm

re: #65 jamesfirecat

Ehh… that is nice advice, and it’d be easy to follow, but by the same token, as Jon Stewart pointed out, outside of Washington we work together with the people we disagree with.

It wouldn’t make sense for me to stand up at work and say “Hey I’m a tax and spend marijuana leaglizing, rich envying, abortion protecting, liberal and if any of the rest of you disagree we need to have a long discussion about it because I can’t work in this envrionment otherwise…”

Man does not eat or live on convictions alone, no matter the cause of those convictions.

All very true. However, life sucks when you have to deal with people that have views 180 from yours and they can’t stop bringing it up! I work with a guy who I know would consider my marriage an abomination, and I have to refrain from getting more closely involved with him, otherwise we would get into a confrontation that could end with us either in the hospital and/or fired.

We have to live with our convictions; that sometimes means staying away from those who are against them.

[deleted] Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:38:34pm

Kragar (Antichrist ) Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:39:49pm

My usual conversation with the YEC.

YEC: “What are you doing for lunch?”
Me: “Your mom.”

The team Teabagger

TB: “So guess what I just heard.”
Me: “Some one telling you to shut the fuck up?”

We get along great

jamesfirecat Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:40:54pm

re: #76 Surabaya Stew

All very true. However, life sucks when you have to deal with people that have views 180 from yours and they can’t stop bringing it up! I work with a guy who I know would consider my marriage an abomination, and I have to refrain from getting more closely involved with him, otherwise we would get into a confrontation that could end with us either in the hospital and/or fired.

We have to live with our convictions; that sometimes means staying away from those who are against them.

The guy is happy NOT to bring it up. He only brought it up in the first place because I sent him a story featuring lesbians.

He’d rather live and let live as well, so the issue is, can I live and let live with someone who holds his beliefs, and if I can’t, is a more of sign of my inner nobility and refusal to tolerate intollerance, or a sign of me wanting to be kind of my own private island, where I’m the only inhabitant….

SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:45:38pm

re: #12 Fozzie Bear

11. I can’t believe i forgot the PM of Great Britain. I should be flogged.

Also 11. Missed on TARP.

jamesfirecat Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:49:39pm

On a happier note has anybody else here read Harry Potter and the methods of Rationality, it is awesome!

First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:50:24pm

re: #51 jamesfirecat

I’m gonna go horribly OT here for a moment to the degree that this sort of thing might have its own page. But do you know what f***ing sucks, when someone you’ve been working with over the internet for what feels like two or three years to edit the stories you write in your free time suddenly turns out to be the

Whatever the FUCK you do, DO NOT GET MARRIED. No, you are not smarter or “better” than the statistics. Your relationship is NOT as strong as you imagine.

AND, you don’t WANT or NEED kids. There are enough people already.

That is all.

Surabaya Stew Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:52:01pm

re: #79 jamesfirecat

The guy is happy NOT to bring it up. He only brought it up in the first place because I sent him a story featuring lesbians.

He’d rather live and let live as well, so the issue is, can I live and let live with someone who holds his beliefs, and if I can’t, is a more of sign of my inner nobility and refusal to tolerate intollerance, or a sign of me wanting to be kind of my own private island, where I’m the only inhabitant…

Ah, now I understand better. He has these beliefs and works with you, knowing that some of the writing you send him will ‘upset’ him so much that he ‘has’ to tell you how he feels. IMHO, he has more issues than you do.

I would not feel bad if you ended up doing less work with him as a result; you simply have to have a certain comfort level when working with people closely. His doing this is like the guy clipping his fingernails or farting excessively at the office; do you want to work with them? Of course not, they’re F*cking annoying! So is this guy, albeit for different reasons. Don’t feel the least bit bad about not wanting to work with him anymore.

wrenchwench Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:52:50pm

re: #82 negativ

Image: 17ac52cb-fabe-4b3b-ace4-3f8356dafbea.jpg

/it just showed up at the cheezeburger site, and seemed appropriate.

researchok Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:53:25pm

re: #65 jamesfirecat

Ehh… that is nice advice, and it’d be easy to follow, but by the same token, as Jon Stewart pointed out, outside of Washington we work together with the people we disagree with.

It wouldn’t make sense for me to stand up at work and say “Hey I’m a tax and spend marijuana leaglizing, rich envying, abortion protecting, liberal and if any of the rest of you disagree we need to have a long discussion about it because I can’t work in this envrionment otherwise…”

Man does not eat or live on convictions alone, no matter the cause of those convictions.

I’ve been reading these exchanges with interest.

Here are my two cents.

Relationships are forged with shared values and not shared interests.

It is guaranteed that over time, interests will change. Values on the other hand, refine and mature. Sometimes, what you think is a value is actually an interest and sometimes what you might think is an interest, is actually a value.

It is unfortunate that politics of interests are portrayed as a value (this is really the best expression of ‘identity politics’).

James Carville and Mary Matalin have by all accounts a very happy marriage and family life. They couldn’t be further apart politically and in a most public way, yet they manage to love, live and work together.

We don’t have to agree to respect someone else. In fact, we can butt heads and still share values.

My grandfather was a wonderful with whom I disagreed often. I loved him not an iota less for our differences. I knew his values to be true North. He loved his family ferociously and never had a bad word to say about anyone. We differed on many issues but I respected him to no end.

There are other people with whom I have similar relationships. I used the example of my grandfather because it is easy to understand how family might bring out a more tolerant side of ourselves. It is up to us to find that tolerance for those we have no familial relationship. All too often we turf them and usually, that is to our detriment. We are not obligated to surround ourselves with those who march in lockstep-in fact, we miss out on a whole lot of life and opportunity to grow if we do

I have no advice to offer regarding the situation in which you find yourself- just an opinion and food for thought.

elizajane Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:56:13pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Pew Research News IQ Quiz
I got 11 out of 12 but I did guess on a few.

Boo-yeah! 12 out of 12!
Now I KNOW that I spend too much time on the internet.

jamesfirecat Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:56:27pm

re: #83 Surabaya Stew

Ah, now I understand better. He has these beliefs and works with you, knowing that some of the writing you send him will ‘upset’ him so much that he ‘has’ to tell you how he feels. IMHO, he has more issues than you do.

I would not feel bad if you ended up doing less work with him as a result; you simply have to have a certain comfort level when working with people closely. His doing this is like the guy clipping his fingernails or farting excessively at the office; do you want to work with them? Of course not, they’re F*cking annoying! So is this guy, albeit for different reasons. Don’t feel the least bit bad about not wanting to work with him anymore.

Ehh I”m agreeing that I”m just not going send him any more stories featuring the lesbian couple, cause there’s no reason to push the buttons that purposely irritate him.

Besides he puts up with a lot of other weird stuff from me in my stories that aren’t expressively forbidden by the Bible, so yeah… that’s the weird duality of certain people…

RadicalModerate Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:57:30pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Pew Research News IQ Quiz
I got 11 out of 12 but I did guess on a few.

11/12, only because I put India/Pakistan relations as “Neutral”, since they currently have trade relations and embassies in each others country.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Sat, Nov 20, 2010 4:58:26pm

re: #88 RadicalModerate

11/12, only because I put India/Pakistan relations as “Neutral”, since they currently have trade relations and embassies in each others country.

And the occasional crossborder firefight and allegations of sponsoring terrorist attacks

What, me worry? Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:00:58pm

re: #87 jamesfirecat

Ehh I”m agreeing that I”m just not going send him any more stories featuring the lesbian couple, cause there’s no reason to push the buttons that purposely irritate him.

Besides he puts up with a lot of other weird stuff from me in my stories that aren’t expressively forbidden by the Bible, so yeah… that’s the weird duality of certain people…

I think it’s a question of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but then again, there are certain hot button issues I probably couldn’t get around. Namely, if I found out someone was anti-Semitic, I’d give him a “it was nice knowing ya.” But I’m Jewish. Other than that, I’d just avoid those subjects, but it may be helpful to keep taking notes anyway.

wrenchwench Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:01:55pm

I just watched the trailer at the top. Looks good!

RadicalModerate Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:03:04pm

re: #89 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And the occasional crossborder firefight and allegations of sponsoring terrorist attacks

Cross-border firefights are par for the course with just about any two countries in the region, and political posturing on both sides likewise.

From where they have been previously (ie a full-fledged shooting war), the relationship they have today is probably the best its been in over a half century.

elizajane Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:04:10pm

re: #51 jamesfirecat

About James’s editor quandary:

I think that it if were your plumber you’d just shrug and figure you’d avoid these subjects. But if it’s somebody who’s reading your fiction writing, that’s different. I’d want to know that my editor was basically on the same wavelength as me, or I’d always be wondering what he thought of my material as he was editing it.

SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:04:27pm

re: #92 RadicalModerate

Cross-border firefights are par for the course with just about any two countries in the region, and political posturing on both sides likewise.

From where they have been previously (ie a full-fledged shooting war), the relationship they have today is probably the best its been in over a half century.

This is true. I just don’t necessarily think of two nations that I secretly fear might nuke each other at any moment of having a neutral relationship.

jamesfirecat Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:08:05pm

re: #93 elizajane

About James’s editor quandary:

I think that it if were your plumber you’d just shrug and figure you’d avoid these subjects. But if it’s somebody who’s reading your fiction writing, that’s different. I’d want to know that my editor was basically on the same wavelength as me, or I’d always be wondering what he thought of my material as he was editing it.

Well yeah, but on the other hand, like I probably mentioned before he’s editing stuff that I write for in my free time, and I write it just to write it and maybe one or two comissions a year.

That and the one story I’ve written that I may actually try to sell some day, I’m going to need like three differenet editors before I can call it truly taken care of…

Anyone want to see the first chapter?

researchok Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:09:09pm

re: #95 jamesfirecat

Well yeah, but on the other hand, like I probably mentioned before he’s editing stuff that I write for in my free time, and I write it just to write it and maybe one or two comissions a year.

That and the one story I’ve written that I may actually try to sell some day, I’m going to need like three differenet editors before I can call it truly taken care of…

Anyone want to see the first chapter?

Fire away!

Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:12:32pm

re: #96 researchok

Fire away!

*Clears throat*
Once upon a time, there was this dude.
He claimed the throne and got the chick.
The End.

What, me worry? Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:13:54pm

re: #93 elizajane

About James’s editor quandary:

I think that it if were your plumber you’d just shrug and figure you’d avoid these subjects. But if it’s somebody who’s reading your fiction writing, that’s different. I’d want to know that my editor was basically on the same wavelength as me, or I’d always be wondering what he thought of my material as he was editing it.

Excellent point. But what about the critiquing aspect? I know next to nothing about writing and/or editing, but letting someone read material that they don’t like (and we all do that with something) may actually be helpful. Good writing will push buttons. And I suppose bad writing lol

researchok Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:13:59pm

re: #97 Varek Raith

*Clears throat*
Once upon a time, there was this dude.
He claimed the throne and got the chick.
The End.

I’m moved to tears.

Pulitzer material. Maybe Nobel Prize for Literature.

100

wrenchwench Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:14:24pm

re: #97 Varek Raith

*Clears throat*
Once upon a time, there was this dude.
He claimed the throne and got the chick.
The End.

The chick character—she’s two dimensional. How about more from her POV?

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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:14:26pm

re: #99 researchok

I’m moved to tears.

Pulitzer material. Maybe Nobel Prize for Literature.

It’s gonna be published on matchbooks!

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researchok Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:14:58pm

re: #101 Varek Raith

It’s gonna be published on matchbooks!

In 127 languages.

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researchok Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:16:04pm

re: #101 Varek Raith

It’s gonna be published on matchbooks!

I reread.

It’s like supersized literature.

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elizajane Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:17:56pm

re: #95 jamesfirecat

Well yeah, but on the other hand, like I probably mentioned before he’s editing stuff that I write for in my free time, and I write it just to write it and maybe one or two comissions a year.

That and the one story I’ve written that I may actually try to sell some day, I’m going to need like three differenet editors before I can call it truly taken care of…

Anyone want to see the first chapter?

I’m already in about three writing groups…
What kind of stuff do you write?

105

wrenchwench Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:19:59pm

Time to get in my box.

Later, lizards.

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jamesfirecat Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:20:05pm

re: #104 elizajane

I’m already in about three writing groups…
What kind of stuff do you write?

I write a lot of stuff, the one story I’m thinking about publishing is something I wrote while in High School/early college which may in effect be not he best time for such things but the first chapter is now up in the LGF pages.

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researchok Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:20:18pm

re: #105 wrenchwench

Time to get in my box.

Later, lizards.

LOLOL

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Stanley Sea Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:22:42pm

re: #100 wrenchwench

The chick character—she’s two dimensional. How about more from her POV?

lol Oh she is.

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researchok Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:24:48pm

re: #106 jamesfirecat

I write a lot of stuff, the one story I’m thinking about publishing is something I wrote while in High School/early college which may in effect be not he best time for such things but the first chapter is now up in the LGF pages.

OK, I’m up for the next installment.

I only hope one of the protagonists is a brilliant therapist. Would make for a riveting read.
(/)

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SteveC Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:26:32pm

re: #97 Varek Raith

*Clears throat*
Once upon a time, there was this dude.
He claimed the throne and got the chick.
The End.

Once upon a time,
they lived happily ever after.

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jamesfirecat Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:26:39pm

re: #109 researchok

OK, I’m up for the next installment.

I only hope one of the protagonists is a brilliant therapist. Would make for a riveting read.
(/)

When my mom heard there was a movie called “Due Date” she wanted it to be a librarian who tracks down rare books that people are trying to steal from her library….

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researchok Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:27:26pm

re: #111 jamesfirecat

When my mom heard there was a movie called “Due Date” she wanted it to be a librarian who tracks down rare books that people are trying to steal from her library…

Tell mom I can see her on Monday at 3.

///

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SteveC Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:27:29pm

re: #111 jamesfirecat

When my mom heard there was a movie called “Due Date” she wanted it to be a librarian who tracks down rare books that people are trying to steal from her library…

Mom doesn’t get out much, I guess.

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jamesfirecat Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:28:30pm

re: #113 SteveC

Mom doesn’t get out much, I guess.

//

She gets out more than I do…

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researchok Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:29:03pm

re: #114 jamesfirecat

She gets out more than I do…

I can see you at 4.

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albusteve Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:30:18pm

re: #114 jamesfirecat

She gets out more than I do…

do you have like a town around you somewhere?

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jamesfirecat Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:31:10pm

re: #116 albusteve

do you have like a town around you somewhere?

///A town, you mean a place where you can meat up with your guild before heading over to do a raid on the next instance?

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researchok Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:31:56pm

re: #117 jamesfirecat

///A town, you mean a place where you can meat up with your guild before heading over to do a raid on the next instance?

2 hours work for you?
//

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albusteve Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:34:16pm

re: #118 researchok

2 hours work for you?
//

better make it 3

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albusteve Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:37:08pm

two words….
train songs

Youtube Video

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SteveC Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:38:52pm

re: #114 jamesfirecat

She gets out more than I do…

Bob Eubanks: What word best describes your wife’s chest?

Contestant: Tiny.

Bob: I’m sorry.

Contestant: So am I.

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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:39:03pm

Took a look at the “Bottom comments”:

# albusteve (-10)
re: #11 insanity police just can’t help it, can you?..well then the same can be said for your pinhead hero the Won…I vote to make every…
# brookly red (-9)
re: #47 wozzablog lighten up jerky… I was speaking to I can has cheezburger speak…
# albusteve (-8)
re: #57 wozzablog you may want to review how our legislature works before crediting Palin with destroying civilization as we know it
# brookly red (-5)
re: #53 brookly red oh Jesus, Stanly…
# albusteve (-5)
re: #44 Stanley Sea pointing out that our POTUS is a pinhead is not partisan

I smell a pattern here… COINCIDENCE?!?!

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albusteve Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:40:54pm

re: #122 Sergey Romanov

Took a look at the “Bottom comments”:

I smell a pattern here… COINCIDENCE?!?!

/

I rool

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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:43:52pm

re: #123 albusteve

I rool

Nope.
Your karma is way too high.
Be more grumpy.
;)

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albusteve Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:47:25pm

re: #124 Varek Raith

Nope.
Your karma is way too high.
Be more grumpy.
;)

serg has made the same old fundamental mistake many noobs make…he’s finding his niche tho, they all do

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SteveC Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:49:32pm

“We are out of everything.”

We are purchasing ORS, water, and pedialyte (now absent from stores because we are buying so much of it). [REDACTED] gave me 10 cases of pedialyte and some other supplies, which is all they could afford because they feared an outbreak in Port au Prince.

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albusteve Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:51:22pm

re: #126 SteveC

“We are out of everything.”

why does the UN hate Haiti?…where is the money?

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Kragar (Antichrist ) Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:53:18pm

re: #127 albusteve

why does the UN hate Haiti?…where is the money?

5 Stars hotels to host a meeting of experts to discuss poverty costs a lot of money.

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SteveC Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:53:23pm

re: #127 albusteve

why does the UN hate Haiti?…where is the money?

Wish I knew the answer to those questions. There have been riots in Haiti, aimed at the UN. The people think that UN Peacekeepers brought the disease in with them. This is going to get ugly.

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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:53:26pm

re: #127 albusteve

why does the UN hate Haiti?…where is the money?

It’s not just the UN.
Accountability rules hold up aid to Haiti

PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti — As if Haitians living in tents and under scraps of plastic don’t have enough to grapple with as a tropical storm bears down and cholera spreads, the U.S. Congress has put up another obstacle to delivering the $1.15 billion in reconstruction money it promised back in March.
The State Department still has to prove the money won’t be stolen or misused.
“Given the weak governmental institutions that existed in Haiti even before the earthquake, Congress wants to be sure we have that accountability in place before these funds are obligated,” State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley told the Associated Press.

Crowley had no immediate estimate for how long this bureaucratic step — known as a Section 1007 proceeding — will take to complete.

Haiti aid organizers had hoped to avoid this. Measures were put in place — including a reconstruction oversight commission co-chaired by former President Bill Clinton — to ensure such concerns would not hold up the money.

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Killgore Trout Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:54:30pm

Human rights activists score big cash in the uk

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albusteve Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:54:34pm

re: #129 SteveC

Wish I knew the answer to those questions. There have been riots in Haiti, aimed at the UN. The people think that UN Peacekeepers brought the disease in with them. This is going to get ugly.

ugly as usual, whenever the UN is involved

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What, me worry? Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:55:41pm

re: #127 albusteve

why does the UN hate Haiti?…where is the money?

They say the UN brought in the epidemic. Peacekeepers from Nepal. But I don’t know. This is all those poor people need.

www.independent.co.uk

Despite weeks of denials by the UN and the World Health Organisation (WHO), there seems little doubt now that the deadly bacterium, which has left thousands of people sick or dead, was brought into the country by infected troops from Nepal, where the disease has broken out several times this summer.

The UN’s previous dismissals of the claims were a primary factor in riots that paralysed parts of Haiti last week. At least three people were killed and dozens injured as unrest spread from the north to the capital last Thursday amid growing anger at the UN’s defiance.

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albusteve Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:57:27pm

the UN is like the Mafia, only not as smart or efficient or trustworthy….but it’s a money making machine…despicable bunch of thugs, and the US continues to support them

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albusteve Sat, Nov 20, 2010 5:58:55pm

re: #133 marjoriemoon

They say the UN brought in the epidemic. Peacekeepers from Nepal. But I don’t know. This is all those poor people need.

[Link: www.independent.co.uk…]

what a clusterfuck…scratch Haiti

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What, me worry? Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:00:03pm

re: #135 albusteve

what a clusterfuck…scratch Haiti

Well, you don’t want that sort of epidemic on any island. Especially when it’s spilling over to the DR. People are coming and going from these places.

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Charles Johnson Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:01:21pm

I wish I didn’t have to do it, but I’m getting really tired of the blatant, in your face trolling, and albusteve is now under a 24-hour timeout.

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researchok Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:02:53pm

re: #134 albusteve

the UN is like the Mafia, only not as smart or efficient or trustworthy…but it’s a money making machine…despicable bunch of thugs, and the US continues to support them

The UN is proof positive the values and morals of nations are not equal- and will not be for the foreseeable future.

If the world’s problems could be fixed with great and high minded speeches. we would be living in a paradise.

Instead, we live in a world where tyrannical regimes and dictators are afforded a platform to dispense their racism, bigotry and hate- and we pick up most of the tab.

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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:03:08pm

re: #125 albusteve

serg has made the same old fundamental mistake many noobs make…he’s finding his niche tho, they all do

Master of dark sayings, you are. Hmm.

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researchok Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:04:29pm

re: #137 Charles

I think I missed the memo.

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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:04:37pm

re: #133 marjoriemoon

They say the UN brought in the epidemic. Peacekeepers from Nepal. But I don’t know. This is all those poor people need.

[Link: www.independent.co.uk…]

Are they certain that this epidemic started with Nepalese troops?
I mean, Haiti was already a breeding ground for the bacteria.

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freetoken Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:07:15pm

re: #141 Varek Raith

But the disease spreads so quickly that any previous infection in Haiti certainly would have been noticed, no?

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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:08:18pm

re: #142 freetoken

But the disease spreads so quickly that any previous infection in Haiti certainly would have been noticed, no?

Thanks for the info.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:08:44pm

Anyone else having a flashback to that time when the 3rd loudest kid in the class got in trouble for the emissions of the louder two?

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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:09:30pm

re: #127 albusteve

why does the UN hate Haiti?…where is the money?

They’re poor, black and irrelevent.

No sarc. That’s why the UN…hate is such a strong word…doesn’t care.

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What, me worry? Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:10:00pm

re: #141 Varek Raith

Are they certain that this epidemic started with Nepalese troops?
I mean, Haiti was already a breeding ground for the bacteria.

Yea, if you read that article.

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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:11:32pm

re: #146 marjoriemoon

Yea, if you read that article.

Thanks.
I’m very hesitant to reading UK based papers because I don’t know which ones are trustworthy and which ones are tabloidy or outright kooky.

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What, me worry? Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:11:41pm

re: #143 Varek Raith

Thanks for the info.

The UN investigation into the source of the epidemic comes after rumours of a “foreign disease” triggered fear and then anger among Haitians. The first confirmed cases have been traced along the Artibonite River, not far from the UN base which houses nearly 500 Nepalese guards. Locals have long complained about the stinking sewage oozing from the base, contaminating the river that they rely on for drinking water. UN military police were spotted last week taking samples from a broken pipe next to the base’s latrines and an overflowing septic tank. The UN has belatedly agreed to review all its sanitation systems across Haiti, officials told Associated Press.

The latest Nepalese deployment arrived in October after summer’s cholera outbreaks in Nepal. The UN’s insistence that none of the peacekeepers showed symptoms of the disease has caused frustration among experts as 75 per cent of people infected with cholera are without symptoms but remain contagious. These denials came as aid agencies struggled to convince people about the need for good hygiene and sanitation regardless of disease symptoms.

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Dark_Falcon Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:11:53pm

re: #132 albusteve

ugly as usual, whenever the UN is involved

It’s not really the UN’s fault on this one, though. It’s the rumor mill working overtime. People will die simply because of human gullibility.

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researchok Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:11:58pm

re: #143 Varek Raith

Thanks for the info.

I just looked it up- Cholera incubation period is anywhere from less than a day up to five days.

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Dark_Falcon Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:14:58pm

re: #148 marjoriemoon

The UN investigation into the source of the epidemic comes after rumours of a “foreign disease” triggered fear and then anger among Haitians. The first confirmed cases have been traced along the Artibonite River, not far from the UN base which houses nearly 500 Nepalese guards. Locals have long complained about the stinking sewage oozing from the base, contaminating the river that they rely on for drinking water. UN military police were spotted last week taking samples from a broken pipe next to the base’s latrines and an overflowing septic tank. The UN has belatedly agreed to review all its sanitation systems across Haiti, officials told Associated Press.

The latest Nepalese deployment arrived in October after summer’s cholera outbreaks in Nepal. The UN’s insistence that none of the peacekeepers showed symptoms of the disease has caused frustration among experts as 75 per cent of people infected with cholera are without symptoms but remain contagious. These denials came as aid agencies struggled to convince people about the need for good hygiene and sanitation regardless of disease symptoms.

I wonder if the guards are Gurkas.

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Varek Raith Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:15:11pm

re: #147 Varek Raith

Thanks.
I’m very hesitant to reading UK based papers because I don’t know which ones are trustworthy and which ones are tabloidy or outright kooky.

Not that I’m saying you’d link to those sites…
Oh, dear.
Let’s start over.
Hi, I’m Varek.

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Renaissance_Man Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:17:59pm

re: #151 Dark_Falcon

I wonder if the guards are Gurkas.

Gurkhas are troops of the British Crown, and bloody happy about it to boot. It is unlikely that they are doing UN peacekeeping duties.

Incidentally, Gurkhas are one of the ten best things in life. They are made of awesome.

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What, me worry? Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:18:45pm

re: #152 Varek Raith

Not that I’m saying you’d link to those sites…
Oh, dear.
Let’s start over.
Hi, I’m Varek.

lol no sweat.

It’s hard to say. I’d rather see them name names of people specifically, but it seems plausible.

In the end, the people are suffering which is tragic. Other groups are still there. Magen David Adom (Israeli Red Cross) is there. Although they don’t mention cholera in this article, I’m sure they’re doing whatever they can there, too.

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What, me worry? Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:20:30pm

Maybe it’s a combination of the two. Poor sanitation mixed with unhealthy workers.

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Dark_Falcon Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:21:38pm

re: #153 Renaissance_Man

Gurkhas are troops of the British Crown, and bloody happy about it to boot. It is unlikely that they are doing UN peacekeeping duties.

Incidentally, Gurkhas are one of the ten best things in life. They are made of awesome.

I know that Gurkas units serve the UK. But Gurkas are a Nepalese tribe and the guard force might be partially or mostly composed of them. I was just wondering.

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Stanley Sea Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:22:41pm

re: #151 Dark_Falcon

I wonder if the guards are Gurkas.

Huh? I looked up the term Gurkas, because this is my first time hearing it.

The Brigade of Gurkhas is the collective term for units of the current British Army that are composed of Nepalese soldiers. The brigade, which is 3,640 strong, draws its heritage from Gurkha units that originally served in the British Indian Army prior to Indian independence, and prior to that of the East India Company.

What is your meaning D_F?

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Stanley Sea Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:24:01pm

re: #157 Stanley Sea

Huh? I looked up the term Gurkas, because this is my first time hearing it.

What is your meaning D_F?

Ah, I really don’t care. Don’t bother typing up a response.

HONESTY IS MOI

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Dark_Falcon Sat, Nov 20, 2010 6:31:09pm

re: #158 Stanley Sea

Ah, I really don’t care. Don’t bother typing up a response.

HONESTY IS MOI

I was just wondering if the Nepalese guards carry those Khukri curved knives the Gurkas use, that’s all.

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Romantic Heretic Sat, Nov 20, 2010 7:24:34pm

re: #51 jamesfirecat

I’m gonna go horribly OT here for a moment to the degree that this sort of thing might have its own page. But do you know what f***ing sucks, when someone you’ve been working with over the internet for what feels like two or three years to edit the stories you write in your free time suddenly turns out to be the kind of guy you wonder if you’d ever be friends with in the first place if you had known him better.

I had something similar happen with some one I was working with. I knew they were on a different spot of the political spectrum than me (they voted McCain-Palin) but it’s a free country, both the U.S. and Canada.

Until I posted something on a political forum that they really disagreed with.

They then made it clear as long as I worked with them I was not to post any more politics anywhere ever again. And if I felt I must I had to clear it with them first.

I knew at that point my only choices were knuckle under or walk away. So I walked away.

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