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1 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 10:41:17am

Good. Let's get this thing passed and move on.

2 Kragar  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 10:41:53am

Oh good. Rush and Glenn now have something to cry about over the holidays.

3 jamesfirecat  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 10:42:57am

Great, I'm glad to hear this since it should give at least a shot in the arm to the economy even if it also means more debt when unemployment is low again.

///Now maybe the Senate can also get to work on the little things like moving towards a more fair an equal society where everyone can serve in the armed forces without fear of persecution based on things they can't control and regaining the ability to inspect Russia's nuclear arsenal....

4 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 10:50:05am

don't start celebrating yet, looks like the GOP plans to shut down the gov't sooner rather than later.

what a bunch of douche-nozzles.

5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 10:50:29am

Did they make it permanent? Or still the two year extension?

6 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 10:53:10am

re: #5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

2 year extension.

7 garhighway  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 10:56:45am

re: #4 Dreggas

don't start celebrating yet, looks like the GOP plans to shut down the gov't sooner rather than later.

what a bunch of douche-nozzles.

They are trying to figure out how to be against earmarks and still get the money.

That's a tough needle to thread.

8 Kragar  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 10:58:30am

re: #6 Dreggas

2 year extension.

Got to keep it an election issue.

9 uncah91  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 10:58:41am

re: #7 garhighway

They are trying to figure out how to be against earmarks and still get the money.

That's a tough needle to thread.

I'm against people knowing that I am for earmarks! And that is unequivocal!

10 Obdicut  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 10:58:56am

re: #7 garhighway

They just need to blame it all on the Democrats. They're good at that.

11 jamesfirecat  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 10:59:20am

re: #7 garhighway

They are trying to figure out how to be against earmarks and still get the money.

That's a tough needle to thread.

1: Claim to be against Earmarks.
2: Take money.
3: Label anyone who dares to bring this fact up as a member of the liberal media.
4: ?????
5: Profit.

Tah-Dah!

12 celticdragon  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:03:47am

It looks like reliable neo confederate Jim Demint is going to crash everything again.

DeMint will invoke a senatorial privilege to ask that texts of both the New START Treaty and the 2011 omnibus spending bill be read aloud on the Senate floor.

The readings could take seven to 12 hours to verbalize the START Treaty, while the omnibus could take 40 to 60 hours, according to a spokesman for DeMint.

We have to keep the homos out the military and derail every fucking treaty signed by that Kenyan usurper, dontchaknow.//

I am ashamed to have ever been a part of the GOP at this point.

13 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:05:10am

re: #12 celticdragon

well when you are as dumb as Jim DeMint you need someone to read things for you.

//

14 Kragar  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:05:47am

re: #12 celticdragon

It looks like reliable neo confederate Jim Demint is going to crash everything again.


We have to keep the homos out the military and derail every fucking treaty signed by that Kenyan usurper, dontchaknow.//

I am ashamed to have ever been a part of the GOP at this point.

I propose an addendum to all bills requiring the statement "Fuck you DeMint." be added to the footnotes of every page.

15 Obdicut  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:06:48am

re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Don't, you'll make Boehner cry.

16 jamesfirecat  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:07:00am

re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I propose an addendum to all bills requiring the statement "Fuck you DeMint." be added to the footnotes of every page.

I second the motion put forward by the Honorable Lizard from LGFopolis!

17 celticdragon  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:07:22am

re: #13 Dreggas

well when you are as dumb as Jim DeMint you need someone to read things for you.

//


I would actually argue at this point that he is an enemy of national security. He is knowingly and deliberately working to undermine th military and public safety for partisan gain.

18 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:07:41am

re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I propose an addendum to all bills requiring the statement "Fuck you DeMint." be added to the footnotes of every page.

Could his opponent really have been THAT bad? I mean, he had cool ideas about action figures!

19 mr.JA  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:07:52am

Absolutely, completely offtopic, a cool webcomic about wikileaks and anonymous:

[Link: xkcd.com...]

It made me laugh...

20 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:10:50am

re: #16 jamesfirecat

I second the motion put forward by the Honorable Lizard from LGFopolis!

Give the man a Harrumph!

21 S'latch  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:11:45am

Maybe they exaggerated their objections to it.

22 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:14:18am

re: #5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did they make it permanent? Or still the two year extension?

That's always been an amusing distinction. What does "permanent" mean to a sitting Congress?

23 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:18:30am

re: #22 Decatur Deb

That's always been an amusing distinction. What does "permanent" mean to a sitting Congress?

Distinction with a serious difference.

Consider the AMT. It's permanent. However, Congress has to act annually to reset the brackets to adjust for inflation. Failing to adjust for inflation means that the AMT hits millions more people (and more than a few that fall into the high end of the middle class).

Extending the tax cuts for two more years means we'll be fighting about this just in time for the 2012 general elections.

Had the cuts been made permanent, the issue would be off the table (though I'm sure some Democrats would be calling for its repeal).

The action on this bill is likely to turn the tax issue into a biennial nightmare unless a permanent fix is made.

24 MinisterO  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:20:15am

re: #23 lawhawk

The action on this bill is likely to turn the tax issue into a biennial nightmare unless a permanent fix is made.

Mining the field of play was in fact the plan.

25 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:20:28am

re: #23 lawhawk

Distinction with a serious difference.

Consider the AMT. It's permanent. However, Congress has to act annually to reset the brackets to adjust for inflation. Failing to adjust for inflation means that the AMT hits millions more people (and more than a few that fall into the high end of the middle class).

Extending the tax cuts for two more years means we'll be fighting about this just in time for the 2012 general elections.

Had the cuts been made permanent, the issue would be off the table (though I'm sure some Democrats would be calling for its repeal).

The action on this bill is likely to turn the tax issue into a biennial nightmare unless a permanent fix is made.

That clarifies it--all cuts are temporary and the piss-fight is unending.

26 Obdicut  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:22:39am

re: #25 Decatur Deb

Well, the AMT is a special thing. Percentage taxes don't care about inflation. The AMT is a percentage tax with a hard number exemption; if the exemption was tied to inflation, it wouldn't have to be redone all the time.

27 MinisterO  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:23:30am

The payroll tax cut primarily benefits the middle class. In this climate that's a pretty neat trick.

28 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:24:49am

re: #26 Obdicut

I'm just feeling anarchic today. I'll say something constructive tomorrow.

29 compound Idaho  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:42:28am

Don't spending and revenue bills have to originate in the House?

30 recusancy  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 11:50:44am

re: #29 compound Idaho

Don't spending and revenue bills have to originate in the House?

It's an amendment to a bill. Not a bill in itself. Otherwise, yes.

31 compound idaho  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 4:28:25pm

re: #30 recusancy

I am not a smart man (to quote Forrest Gump) but I suspect that is not what the constitution was driving at. Funny how we can find our way around the clear intent then slap ourselves on the back and congratulate each other on how *&$%^& cleaver we are. Lawyers!

32 Ojoe  Wed, Dec 15, 2010 8:52:55pm

Is not the bill a "tax stays the same bill" instead of a tax cut bill?


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