Overnight Open Thread
My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. My pleasures are the most intense known to man: writing and butterfly hunting.
— Vladimir Nabokov
My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. My pleasures are the most intense known to man: writing and butterfly hunting.
— Vladimir Nabokov
3 | Killgore Trout Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:43:39pm |
The Birth of a Violin
4 | steve Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:45:58pm |
5 | stevemcg Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:50:30pm |
I was in Paris this summer and watching a BBC channel. It was showing old performances of Beatles' covers. One act was Dudley and Cecile. Cecile starts singing "Norwegian Wood" to a piano accompaniment. Turns out Dudley was Dudley Moore and about halfway through the song he starts mouthing the sitar sounds and Cecile lost it. They had a Korean womens' wuartet singing "Can't Buy Me Love" but I have to admit the worst act (as in bad not humorously bad) was Karen Carpenter singing "Help".
6 | lostlakehiker Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:51:06pm |
"Lolita" is much misunderstood. Old Humbert completely misses the point of what he's done to her, but the perceptive reader will have it gradually dawn on him, the awful realization.
At tennis, the girl can get to the ball, can hit it. What she can't do is even try to win.
To do that to a person is barely short of murder.
Nabokov is subtle. He doesn't wax indignant on the reader. The reader is supposed to figure it out for themselves.
Much like "Nobody's Boy".
7 | stevemcg Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:52:41pm |
re: #3 Killgore Trout
I was always jealous of musicians. I could never get my fingers to hit a single fret, string or key. I mean if you see some of the fat fingers some of the greatest musicians have, I should at least be able to play Jingle Bells.
8 | sattv4u2 Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:55:49pm |
re: #7 stevemcg
I was always jealous of musicians. I could never get my fingers to hit a single fret, string or key. I mean if you see some of the fat fingers some of the greatest musicians have, I should at least be able to play Jingle Bells.
I would think you've been doing that since puberty!
Hell,,, I know I HAVE !!
9 | stevemcg Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:56:18pm |
Out of curiosity, there is a song I can't get out of my head, but I can't find it either. It was from about 1980-82 ish, and it was a variation of "I Don't Want to Grow Up" (Not the Ramones, I've been looking at Google, Youtube and Itunes). It sounded like the Tubes. This variation had the line "..and wear a serious expression everytime I get high" Anybody remember?
10 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:56:49pm |
re: #8 sattv4u2
Where are you tonight... home, work or Boston?
11 | sattv4u2 Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:59:06pm |
re: #10 Walter L. Newton
Where are you tonight... home, work or Boston?
Work
10 p.m till 10 a.m
Why ,, coming to bring me some food!?!?
12 | Killgore Trout Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:01:01pm |
re: #9 stevemcg
Out of curiosity, there is a song I can't get out of my head, but I can't find it either. It was from about 1980-82 ish, and it was a variation of "I Don't Want to Grow Up" (Not the Ramones, I've been looking at Google, Youtube and Itunes). It sounded like the Tubes. This variation had the line "..and wear a serious expression everytime I get high" Anybody remember?
Tom Waits - I Don't Want To Grow Up?
13 | sattv4u2 Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:01:41pm |
re: #3 Killgore Trout
The Birth of a Violin
[Video]
I didn't know it was pregnant
damn cheap condomes!
14 | Walter L. Newton Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:02:20pm |
re: #11 sattv4u2
Work
10 p.m till 10 a.m
Why ,, coming to bring me some food!?!?
Er... no... just wondering... I'm not moving out of this house tonight... we finally had snow here... about 6 inches, still snowing, I did a full shift today... and it's -6 degrees (f) right now... nope... not moving... headed for the electric blanket and the bed.
15 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:07:15pm |
"Reading Lolita in Tehran" has some very good insights into the book, coming from the point of view of young women living in modern Iran. They get it.
16 | sattv4u2 Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:08:09pm |
re: #14 Walter L. Newton
Er... no... just wondering... I'm not moving out of this house tonight... we finally had snow here... about 6 inches, still snowing, I did a full shift today... and it's -6 degrees (f) right now... nope... not moving... headed for the electric blanket and the bed.
So I gotta starve just so you can be warm and comfy!!
17 | Killgore Trout Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:08:12pm |
18 | stevemcg Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:08:14pm |
re: #12 Killgore Trout
Thanks, but this one had a different melody. It was pretty up tempo like Waits. I would have sworn it was the Tubes, but it's not in their discography. There's not much left in my head that I don't have on my ipod. The last one that had confounded me like this was "You're Not Smiling' by Audience. There was a DJ in Philadelphia who would bring in his own stuff for the 2am - 6 shift. I would put in a tape before I fell asleep but sometimes the tape would run out before he would come back and say what he played.
19 | SteveMcG Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:21:42pm |
re: #18 stevemcg
This was back in the 80's. I eventually had to go to day shift and lost track of that radio show, which I had taken for granted. By the next summer it was gone. The guy's name is Rick Allen, and searching for him was a pain because he has the same name as the Def Leppard drummer, who gets the lion's share of google. The amazing thing is that Allen remained with the same radio staion until about 2004. He got fired right before he made 20 years with the station. (And right before I started searching for some of these old songs from my tapes) In 2007 I just missed him in a comments section of a Philly.com blog. I had mentioned on one post about how Rick Allen used to have the best 4th of July shows. I go on vacation hours before Allen replied with the only post he ever left on Philly.com! He's out there somewhere.
20 | engineer cat Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:41:04pm |
what's he got against crime?
"i am the shadow of the waxwing, slain
by the false azure of the windowpane"
21 | engineer cat Fri, Dec 31, 2010 12:04:45am |
they are working hard to breed them,
book hating, dog fighting, chock full of resentments,
impatiently slapping their palm with a blackjack,
upset because it's not time yet to beat up the wog
just because, that's all, just because
impatiently stirring up the trash, sending out bait,
trying out hot slogans to see which ones catch on,
hate unions, hate other languages, hate other religions,
hate others, hate just hate but there are targets,
targets that somebody would like to soften up
stirring up the resentful, stirring up the abused,
stirring up the sociopath cooped up by morality,
stirring, stirring, stirring, brewing, weaving, and designing,
looking to breed the unstoppable legions like that time somewhere else,
the giant marching hate,
hate, hate, hate, hate,
hate, hate, hate, hate,
hate, hate, hate, hate
but this is not that place, this is not that time,
the ideas that our country was founded on are not such fertile soil for hate
not that that stops some people
so little patches of hate weeds grow up, carefully tended and pumped full of artificial fertilizers,
watered by torrents of tough times, disappointments, things that hurt but have no explanations...
if we were able to know what the future holds for us, it would be unbearable
i don't know if the weeds will grow over the garden
but it didn't happen yet
22 | Eclectic Infidel Fri, Dec 31, 2010 12:31:13am |
"I love a man who hunts ducks."
-Jane Curtain, SNL
23 | Usually refered to as anyways Fri, Dec 31, 2010 12:34:17am |
Happy New Year to all the lizards.
May 2011 see employment and prosperity for you and those you love.
Enjoy this time with good friends and good food.
Charles thanks for your effort, and thanks for letting me post.
Be always at war with your vices, at peace with your neighbors, and let each New Year find you a better man. -- Benjamin Franklin
19:25 12/31/2010 Australia eastern time.
4.5 hours to midnight.
29 | Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Dec 31, 2010 2:18:21am |
re: #27 laZardo
"Hipster" does not do him justice, he was a truly transcendent human being.
30 | laZardo Fri, Dec 31, 2010 2:33:34am |
re: #29 ralphieboy
Reading up on him in Wiki. Sounds like a real renaissance man.
31 | laZardo Fri, Dec 31, 2010 3:00:13am |
Heading out to a good ol'-fashioned Filipino New Years bash to deflower the virgin year soon as it arrives. :D
Cheers!
32 | Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Dec 31, 2010 3:29:27am |
Less than 12 hours left in the Old Year here in Old Europe...
33 | Obdicut Fri, Dec 31, 2010 4:16:36am |
I'm heading down to DC to visit my brother. Have a good new years, all.
39 | lawhawk Fri, Dec 31, 2010 5:22:24am |
L'shana tova and happy new year to all. May the new year be a sweeter, happier, and healthier one than the one that is soon to end.
40 | sattv4u2 Fri, Dec 31, 2010 5:22:34am |
Atlanta is T-Minus 15 hours, 38 minutes till Happy New Year
(at which time I will be sitting back here at work,,, alone ,,,, [Link: WWWHHHHAAAAAA!!!...]
41 | jaunte Fri, Dec 31, 2010 5:23:03am |
Vladimir Nabokov in the Grand Canyon & the Discovery of Butterfly Neonympha...A little way down the path, Leuthold disturbed a brown butterfly, perched on the ground in front of her. Nabokov swiftly netted the creature, and then a second, before trudging victorious back to the car. As soon as he had seen the butterfly, Nabokov had identified it as a Neonympha. On this occasion, his pleasure was increased by knowing that it was an unknown Neonympha - he had finally discovered his own species.
Nabokov was delighted with this realisation of his childhood dream. The following year, he made a visit to the American Museum of Natural History. In one of the cases, with a red label, was his Neonympha Dorothea Dorothea (later renamed Cyllopsis Pertepida Dorothea). With true chivalry, he had named the creature after the woman who had made the journey possible.
42 | sattv4u2 Fri, Dec 31, 2010 5:23:21am |
re: #40 sattv4u2
Atlanta is T-Minus 15 hours, 38 minutes till Happy New Year
(at which time I will be sitting back here at work,,, alone ,,, [Link:
43 | sattv4u2 Fri, Dec 31, 2010 5:23:55am |
re: #40 sattv4u2
Atlanta is T-Minus 15 hours, 38 minutes till Happy New Year
(at which time I will be sitting back here at work,,, alone ,,, [Link:
45 | sattv4u2 Fri, Dec 31, 2010 5:27:54am |
re: #41 jaunte
, Leuthold disturbed a brown butterfly
Now that the butterfly is disturbed, will it need therapy!?!?
46 | jaunte Fri, Dec 31, 2010 5:29:44am |
re: #45 sattv4u2
"Awakening from uneasy dreams, he found himself transformed into a tiny insect in the Grand Canyon, disturbed by the Leuthold/Nabokov party."
47 | sattv4u2 Fri, Dec 31, 2010 5:30:56am |
re: #46 jaunte
"Awakening from uneasy dreams, he found himself transformed into a tiny insect in the Grand Canyon, disturbed by the Leuthold/Nabokov party."
Great
So not only therapy, but he'll need drugs too!!
48 | Flounder Fri, Dec 31, 2010 5:40:06am |
This mornings Jumble:
LYBUL
HOUGD
GEOVAY
URBAUN
49 | sattv4u2 Fri, Dec 31, 2010 5:41:17am |
re: #48 Shropshire_Slasher
This mornings Jumble:
LYBUL
HOUGD
GEOVAY
URBAUN
They all look fine to me!
Words I use on a daily basis!
(ummm,, did I mention I drink a LOT!!)
50 | jaunte Fri, Dec 31, 2010 5:47:13am |
re: #48 Shropshire_Slasher
This mornings Jumble:
LYBUL
HOUGD
GEOVAY
URBAUN
A legal complaint in Texas
A dutch cheese maker
A new compact cars only traffic lane
An international organization of city dwellers
51 | PhillyPretzel Fri, Dec 31, 2010 5:52:34am |
re: #3 Killgore Trout
Thank you. A very good explaination and a very nice piece of music at the end. :)
52 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Dec 31, 2010 6:07:48am |
CHUCK LORRE PRODUCTIONS, #299
Keeping in mind that decades are arbitrary divisions of time, I thought it might be nice to take a moment to look back and reflect on some of the major events that took place in America during the first ten years of the twenty-first century...
We began the 0's, ominously, with the dot com meltdown, followed by the tragic suicide of the pets.com sock puppet dog.
Except for the nineteen scumbags dying in several plane accidents, nothing good happened in 2001. (If they're spending eternity having sex with virgins, we can only hope they're catching, not pitching.)
Shortly afterward, we knocked over a statue, accomplished a mission and shared the gift of democracy because that's just how we roll.
Except for Jon Stewart, nothing much good happened for the next few years.
Balloon mortgages for poor people turned out to be a bad idea.
Steve Jobs brought us the iPhone which, other than being a lousy phone, is extremely cool.
The last presidential election proved that we are capable of change.
The following two years proved that while we are capable of change, we won't.
54 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 6:19:08am |
Good morning lizards!
Saudi Arabia To Start Making Cars
I wonder if it comes with factory installed bombs?
55 | RogueOne Fri, Dec 31, 2010 6:24:47am |
re: #54 NJDhockeyfan
Good morning lizards!
Saudi Arabia To Start Making Cars
I wonder if it comes with factory installed bombs?
bet it doesn't come with a drivers side makeup mirror.
56 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 6:29:51am |
re: #55 RogueOne
bet it doesn't come with a drivers side makeup mirror.
No, they had to save room for the suicide-belt racks.
57 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 6:36:54am |
In case you are still looking for that special gift, look what's going on the auction block...
Navy ambulance that carried President Kennedy's casket to be auctioned
The 1963 Pontiac Bonneville ambulance that carried the casket of President John F. Kennedy on the day he was assassinated, Nov. 22, 1963, is going on the auction block.The gray Navy ambulance, still carrying the official marking on its doors that were the same as that fateful day, will be sold by Barrett-Jackson at the big auction in Scottsdale, Ariz., from Jan. 17 to 23.
It is the car that met Air Force One when it arrived back at Andrews Air Force Base outside Washington. The president's body was solemnly loaded in the ambulance as First Lady Jacqueline, her suit still stained with the dead president's blood, and his brother, Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, stood by.
Barrett-Jackson refers to this official history of the car, including many present-day photos of it:
The car was converted to an ambulance in Superior's Mississippi plant on February 6, 1963. It is a model 6-3-207G which is the high headroom ambulance. There were a total of 69 of this series (206 and 207) built, 15 of which were under military contract. The original navy data plate on the dash shows it's US Navy registration as 94-49196. After November 22, 1963. It continued in Navy service and was eventually sold as surplus.
The ambulance has survived all these years in very nice original, unrestored condition. It currently wears only 38,000 miles.
58 | Virginia Plain Fri, Dec 31, 2010 6:38:14am |
T-minus 3 hours 13 minutes in humid Chennai India.
59 | sattv4u2 Fri, Dec 31, 2010 6:41:18am |
re: #57 NJDhockeyfan
In case you are still looking for that special gift, look what's going on the auction block...
Navy ambulance that carried President Kennedy's casket to be auctioned
Creepy!!
(no,, not that the ambulance is being auctioned
YOU for looking at wierd as shit like that!!)
//
60 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 6:48:45am |
re: #59 sattv4u2
Creepy!!
(no,, not that the ambulance is being auctioned
YOU for looking at wierd as shit like that!!)
//
I love historic items. I hope someone doesn't but it then put a new paint job on it with flames, new spinners, and a full collection of Dead Kennedy CDs in the stereo.
61 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 6:54:41am |
62 | garhighway Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:00:40am |
63 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:03:17am |
Kim Jong Il watches tank force training
Kim Jong Il, supreme commander of the Korean People's Army (KPA), has recently watched the training of a tank division, the official news agency KCNA reported on Friday.
He expressed great satisfaction with the soldiers who were fully prepared politically and ideologically and armed with military techniques to defend the socialist homeland, the report said.He called for strengthening the military qualification and combat ability of the tank unit, underscoring the need to conduct intensive training under the simulated conditions of an actual battle.
The Seoul Ryu Kyong Su 105 Guards Tank Division, which played an important role in strengthening the tank forces of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, was a vanguard unit both in battles and the ideological field, he said.
64 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:08:08am |
re: #63 NJDhockeyfan
He was quoted "I would like to express my admiration for the "Tank Pushers". Used to be (after we ran out of fuel) it took 200 soldiers to push a tank, now we have it down to 90 soldiers. After our engineers were able to remove so much excess weight and we don't have to use all that expensive armor plating."
65 | sattv4u2 Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:09:38am |
And on that note, the long queit drive home beckons
66 | reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:12:39am |
Viral
Epic
Refudiate and Momma Bear will remove from the
public vocabulary??
What fun is that??
67 | Slap Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:13:28am |
re: #62 garhighway
Morning, all! I see your Krugman, and raise you two Tom Tomorrows:
2010 Moments of Pure Crazy, Part 1
2010 Moments of Pure Crazy, Part 2
Here's hoping 2011 shows a glimmer of some degree of sanity....!
68 | reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:15:13am |
re: #67 Slap
Sanity?
I'll consult the All Wise "8 Ball" and get back to you......
....Nope.."not looking good"!
69 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:19:05am |
re: #68 reloadingisnotahobby
Did you get any of the storm we got yesterday/last night?
Well... the front range finally got some measurable snow... about 6 inches, not as much as they predicted (they were talking about a foot or more), but we got some.
Along with the snow came a really cold Canadian blast... the sun is up and it's -9 degrees (f) right now... brrrr...
70 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:22:37am |
re: #67 Slap
Morning, all! I see your Krugman, and raise you two Tom Tomorrows:
2010 Moments of Pure Crazy, Part 1
2010 Moments of Pure Crazy, Part 2
Here's hoping 2011 shows a glimmer of some degree of sanity...!
2010 Moments of Pure Crazy: Part Three... anything out of Krugman's mouth... period.
71 | reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:22:55am |
re: #69 Walter L. Newton
Stopped snowing here at noon yesterday...
No real accumulation ...1-2 inches?
The wind SUCKED ! About 8-12 mph.
Split some wood after work and had a roaring fire
last night and this morning.
It's 18 dig right now.
72 | Slap Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:24:56am |
re: #70 Walter L. Newton
2010 Moments of Pure Crazy: Part Three... anything out of Krugman's mouth... period.
Just striving for the fair and balanced view./
Me, I'd rather pay attention to intentional humorists.....
74 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:27:37am |
Whiskey woes troubling Pakistani party-lovers!
It may well be a dry New Year’s for Pakistani party-lovers — thanks to an unprecedented shortage of alcohol in the black market.
Though the sun shone bright today after three days of rain and gloomy weather in the federal capital and brought a smile to many faces, whiskey woes continue to trouble quite a few.
The sale of liquor is banned in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, but there is no stopping bootleggers though the length and breadth of the country.
They operate from homes in posh localities in cities like Islamabad and their neighbours too never seem to mind the transactions.
Sales peak during weekends, when it is not unusual to spot even women driving up to buy liquor and crates of beer.
Bootleggers, more often than not, hail from the majority Muslim community.
Fewer cars have been pulling up at a popular “booze joint” in Islamabad’s posh Sector F6—1 to buy alcohol from one of the city’s best-known bootleggers.
Johnny Walker Black Label, one of the most sought after brands, is being sold for up to Rs. 9,000 a bottle.
Popular New Year party hosts have cut down on guests because of the shortage.
The story is more or less the same in Lahore.
“The price of Black Label, one of the most popular brands of whiskey among Lahoris, has doubled since a consignment destined for this city’s black market for alcohol was confiscated in Islamabad a month ago.
A bottle of Black Label is now selling for Rs. 8,000 to Rs. 9,000,” read a report in the Express Tribune newspaper.
“We’ve been getting Chivas Regal but that is now running short too,” the daily quoted a party planner as saying.
A bootlegger in Lahore described the shortage as unprecedented: “A bootlegger who has been supplying liquor to people’s houses in Lahore for 10 years said that alcohol shortages were common at this time of year, but this time the shortage was severe.”
An organiser of an event management company that is hosting its first event at a farmhouse in Bedian tonight told the Express Tribune that he had asked friends in Islamabad to bring him “the good stuff” from contacts in the capital.
“We are stocking up on beer and red and white wine here,” he said.
75 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:28:05am |
re: #71 reloadingisnotahobby
Stopped snowing here at noon yesterday...
No real accumulation ...1-2 inches?
The wind SUCKED ! About 8-12 mph.
Split some wood after work and had a roaring fire
last night and this morning.
It's 18 dig right now.
It was nice getting any sort of snow... even though I had to drive home in it last night around 8:00pm. And it never fails... major state highway, 4 lanes, two lanes in each direction, about a 4 inch snowpack, one lane each way is scraped real good and "clear" in the sense, not so much snow, more like clear ice, and you got people driving 40 miles an hour or faster.
It's usually the long time mountain dwellers who speed dangerously like that, they think because they have driven on snow for many years that they are immune to loosing control.
Never fails... they loose control... end up rolled over or in a ditch. Me, I've driven on snow most of my life, I still was doing 20-25 the most last night... and I only have a four mile trip on the highway, and about 2 miles of windy 2 lane mountain road that you don't want to slide off of.
Idiots.
76 | jaunte Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:30:30am |
re: #74 NJDhockeyfan
Johnny Walker Black Label, one of the most sought after brands, is being sold for up to Rs. 9,000 a bottle.
Today's exchange rate : 9,000.00 Pakistani rupees = $105.116 US
77 | reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:31:00am |
re: #75 Walter L. Newton
Here they drive 55 two lane road.. in really DENSE fog....While chatting on a cell!
The fog isn't the only thing DENSE out there!
Be safe and warm!
78 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:31:01am |
Man Arrested After Strip Protest At Richmond Airport
RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - Police say a man stripped to his underwear at a Virginia airport checkpoint in a protest against security procedures.
Airport police said the man took off his shirt and pants at Richmond International Airport on Thursday. He had scrawled across his chest a reference to the Constitution's 4th Amendment protections against unreasonable search and seizure.
Police identified the man as 21-year-old Aaron B. Tobey of Charlottesville, Va. He told police he was a student at the University of Cincinnati.
Tobey was interviewed by airport police and federal authorities, issued a citation for disorderly conduct and released. He is scheduled for arraignment on Jan. 10.
79 | reloadingisnotahobby Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:34:11am |
Time to put on some coveralls and take down decorations....outside!Brrrr
80 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:34:15am |
re: #75 Walter L. Newton
Was thinking of you yesterday (in a totally non-threatening, manly way)... had out my vial of "mars dust".
Sometimes I find myself just staring into it.
Means quite a bit to me.
Thanks again. Happy New Year, Walter.
82 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:37:07am |
re: #71 reloadingisnotahobby
Stopped snowing here at noon yesterday...
No real accumulation ...1-2 inches?
The wind SUCKED ! About 8-12 mph.
Split some wood after work and had a roaring fire
last night and this morning.
It's 18 dig right now.
We had both wood pellet stoves going when I got home last night, and an electric heater going in the downstairs finished basement bathroom... the downstairs bathroom and one of the upstairs bathrooms (right above it) are against the the side of the house that faces the side of the mountain side we live on, so they get full force of winds and cold. Pipes froze anyway, even though we had the electric heater going.
We have a third bathroom up stairs, surrounded by interior rooms, and right above the downstairs wood pellet heater, which never freezes.
Funny thing about this house, it was pieced together from an old bar that was moved from the town to up here, and then added on to, so there is more plumbing against outer walls then there should be. That wasn't so smart. The building was pulled up here about 50 years ago, but I don't know what someone was thinking when they put things together the way they did.
Not a big problem, the freezing happens a few times a winter, getting below zero temps only happen a few times a winter up here.
83 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:37:08am |
re: #78 NJDhockeyfan
Lady did that in Evansville, IN back in '02 (I think). She was flying back to France, stripped to nothing.
Judge completely let her off... saying he understood...
84 | garhighway Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:38:42am |
85 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:39:56am |
re: #80 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Was thinking of you yesterday (in a totally non-threatening, manly way)... had out my vial of "mars dust".
Sometimes I find myself just staring into it.
Means quite a bit to me.
Thanks again. Happy New Year, Walter.
You too... I know what you mean about those particle cuttings from that Martian meteorite. You don't have to put that in quotes, it really is Mars dust.
If you take a 10 power or more loupe to that dust, you can actually see the crystalline particles that are mentioned in many online articles about that particular meteorite.
Look up the petrology of that meteorite, there is a lot of interesting science there.
Happy New Tears too...
86 | A Man for all Seasons Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:41:42am |
re: #84 garhighway
If "disorderly conduct" = "being a dick", this guy is going away.
No Shirt
No Pants
No Service
87 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:42:36am |
re: #80 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Was thinking of you yesterday (in a totally non-threatening, manly way)... had out my vial of "mars dust".
Sometimes I find myself just staring into it.
Means quite a bit to me.
Thanks again. Happy New Year, Walter.
Cool!
Speaking of Mars, have you seen these pictures?
NASA Rover Images Show Blue Sunset on Mars
NASA, in its latest batch of photos from space, has recently released new movie clips to show what the view may be like if standing on Mars.
One of the movies shows a bluish Martian sunset while a second shows the moon Phobos eclipsing the sun.
NASA stated that the images are from the Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity's panoramic camera. The sunset movie combines exposures taken Nov. 4 and Nov. 5 and turns about 17 minutes of action into a 30-second simulation.
The partial solar eclipse came from photos taken shortly before a sunset on Nov. 9.
"These visualizations of an alien sunset show what it must have looked like for Opportunity, in a way we rarely get to see, with motion," said rover science team member Mark Lemmon.
Discovery News said the bluish glow around the sun is from dust particles that make the planet's sky appear red.
88 | garhighway Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:45:31am |
Since he has so many fans here, I bring you another dose of vintage Krugman.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
Beware: since it is a Nobel-winning economist talking about economics, it might be a little dry.
89 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:47:03am |
re: #87 NJDhockeyfan
Cool!
Speaking of Mars, have you seen these pictures?
I have a 30 milligram piece of the same Martian meteorite that FVB is talking about... about the size of a head of a pin... it's called North West Africa 998... you can read about it here...
[Link: www2.jpl.nasa.gov...]
There is actually microscopic wanter particles found in this meteorite.
90 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:48:36am |
re: #88 garhighway
Since he has so many fans here, I bring you another dose of vintage Krugman.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
Beware: since it is a Nobel-winning economist talking about economics, it might be a little dry.
Having a Nobel Prize doesn't necessarily indicate jack shit... I know a famous American that has one, for peace, notice all the peace?
91 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:54:14am |
re: #90 Walter L. Newton
Having a Nobel Prize doesn't necessarily indicate jack shit... I know a famous American that has one, for peace, notice all the peace?
Next Year's Wars : The 16 brewing conflicts to watch for in 2011.
Maybe that famous American can effect some hope and change in these conflicts...
[Link: www.foreignpolicy.com...]
92 | garhighway Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:55:36am |
re: #90 Walter L. Newton
Having a Nobel Prize doesn't necessarily indicate jack shit... I know a famous American that has one, for peace, notice all the peace?
A Nobel in economics usually indicates command of that topic.
93 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:56:00am |
re: #90 Walter L. Newton
Having a Nobel Prize doesn't necessarily indicate jack shit... I know a famous American that has one, for peace, notice all the peace?
The Nobel Peace Prize became a joke when they gave one to terrorist leader Yasser Arafat and it's been a joke ever since.
94 | Vicious Michigan Union Thug Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:56:02am |
re: #48 Shropshire_Slasher
This mornings Jumble:
LYBUL
HOUGD
GEOVAY
URBAUN
BULLY
DOUGH
VOYAGE
AUBURN
95 | A Man for all Seasons Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:56:48am |
re: #92 garhighway
A Nobel in economics usually indicates command of that topic.
Didn't he work for Enron?
96 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:56:58am |
And while we are on the subject of peace... this is getting ridiculous... now it's become a planned event...
PARIS (Reuters) – France will deploy extra police and keep vandalism statistics under wraps on New Year's Eve to fight what authorities say has become an annual "sweepstakes" of disaffected youths competing to see who can burn the most cars.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
97 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Dec 31, 2010 7:57:56am |
98 | garhighway Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:01:09am |
99 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:02:28am |
100 | A Man for all Seasons Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:04:27am |
re: #98 garhighway
Yes.
And therefore...?
Was he involved in it's downfall? Bad Advice? Or did he get burned also?
101 | garhighway Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:06:31am |
re: #100 HoosierHoops
Was he involved in it's downfall? Bad Advice? Or did he get burned also?
Here you go: read for yourself.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
102 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:15:14am |
re: #63 NJDhockeyfan
Kim Jong Il watches tank force training
Kim Jong Il, supreme commander of the Korean People's Army (KPA), has recently watched the training of a tank division, the official news agency KCNA reported on Friday.
Heh. In 1950, our M26 Pershing tanks went through the T-34/85 tanks of the 105th like a pile driver through drywall. Our M1A3s would have an even easier time today. Keep dreamin', Lil' Kim.
103 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:18:28am |
re: #101 garhighway
Here you go: read for yourself.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Back when he won that Nobel prize, Paul Krugman was at the top of his game. He's gone downhill since, and lately he's mostly a hack. His brain was damaged by a severe case of BDS.
104 | lawhawk Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:19:21am |
re: #92 garhighway
And it doesn't necessarily mean that you win for your current work. Rather, in Krugman's case, it's work he did more than 15 years ago.
Economics and science Nobels are often given long after the original work was done - when there's some perspective on the import of the work.
The Nobel Prize for Peace and the Literature Prize are often given on the basis of politics, and carry far less weight than the hard sciences. After all, it's hard to argue against Einstein getting a Nobel Prize, but giving one to Arafat despite being an unrepentant terrorist was pure politics to try and bribe Arafat to take a different path. Likewise, Obama received a Nobel prize merely for not being Bush. Neither was deserving, but both received awards out of politics.
105 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:24:46am |
The holidays are a time of rest and relaxation for everyone, even enigmatic, internationally wanted former fugitives under house arrest. In an exclusive photo gallery, NEWSWEEK peeks into WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange's Christmas revelry as he awaits a British court's decision on whether he will be extradited to Sweden to face sexual-assault charges.
[Link: www.newsweek.com...]
:-)
106 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:25:00am |
re: #104 lawhawk
And it doesn't necessarily mean that you win for your current work. Rather, in Krugman's case, it's work he did more than 15 years ago.
Economics and science Nobels are often given long after the original work was done - when there's some perspective on the import of the work.
The Nobel Prize for Peace and the Literature Prize are often given on the basis of politics, and carry far less weight than the hard sciences. After all, it's hard to argue against Einstein getting a Nobel Prize, but giving one to Arafat despite being an unrepentant terrorist was pure politics to try and bribe Arafat to take a different path. Likewise, Obama received a Nobel prize merely for not being Bush. Neither was deserving, but both received awards out of politics.
the Peace Prize has been corrupted beyond redemption...it means nothing, ...now it's fallen into the entertainment pit...like, who's next?
107 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:26:02am |
re: #105 000G
[Link: www.newsweek.com...]
:-)
this guys newsability has crashed for me...wake me up when they charge him
108 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:37:50am |
re: #107 albusteve
Hey... Last report I heard while driving home from work last night was that the snow we had was moving into your area... did you get any?
109 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:43:26am |
re: #108 Walter L. Newton
Hey... Last report I heard while driving home from work last night was that the snow we had was moving into your area... did you get any?
not down in ABQ, but all the mountains that I can see are covered with snow...and that goes for all the downstate ranges as well....the Gilas had blizzard conditions for the last few days...and across from them to the east, the Sacramento's have tons of snow...we are doing real good, but here in the valley, it's bone dry and ice cold
110 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:44:03am |
re: #109 albusteve
not down in ABQ, but all the mountains that I can see are covered with snow...and that goes for all the downstate ranges as well...the Gilas had blizzard conditions for the last few days...and across from them to the east, the Sacramento's have tons of snow...we are doing real good, but here in the valley, it's bone dry and ice cold
Well... it's ice cold here too... -9
112 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:46:59am |
113 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:48:32am |
Chilling details emerge about Danish attack plot suspects
Stockholm - Two days after five men were arrested over a foiled plot to massacre staff at a Danish newspaper, new details emerged Friday linking at least one of the suspects to Islamist extremists.
The five were arrested Wednesday for hatching what Danish officials called a plan to "kill as many people as possible" in an assault on the Jyllands-Posten daily, which sparked violent protests with its 2005 publication of a dozen cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed.
A Stockholm court said one of the five arrested in the Swedish capital was Sahbi Zalouti, a 37-year-old Swede of Tunisian origin.
Danish intelligence agency PET has identified one man based in Denmark as a 26-year-old Iraqi asylum seeker living in the Copenhagen suburb of Greve. He was freed Thursday but is still suspected of being connected to the plot.
The three men arrested in another suburb were all based in Sweden and had driven to the Danish capital overnight Tuesday.
They have been officially identified only as a 44-year-old Tunisian, a 29-year-old Swede born in Lebanon, and a 30-year-old Swede.
Both Danish and Swedish media have however provided the names and backgrounds of the men, identifying the Denmark-based Iraqi as Abdullah Muhammed Salman and the three residents of Sweden as Mounir Dhahri, Munir Awad and Omar Abdalla Aboelazm.
Most of the media focus has been on Awad, 29, who Sweden's foreign ministry confirmed has been arrested twice before abroad suspected of terrorist links.
114 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:49:04am |
Arrested this week for allegedly masturbating while seated next to a teenage girl on an airplane flight, the 50-year-old suspect told police that he was actually massaging and itching himself because he had spilled Tabasco sauce on his penis.
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]
decide for yourself
115 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:50:19am |
re: #114 albusteve
Arrested this week for allegedly masturbating while seated next to a teenage girl on an airplane flight, the 50-year-old suspect told police that he was actually massaging and itching himself because he had spilled Tabasco sauce on his penis.
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]
decide for yourself
There is a joke including milk somewhere in that story.
116 | Killgore Trout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:53:22am |
Drudge has this at the top of the page....
TV Crew Covering President Claims Mistreatment
A public access television crew complained of police mistreatment Thursday, after trying to get a picture of President Barrack Obama.Just after dawn Wednesday, the three-woman crew for a Big Island public access program called "We Are Change Hawaii" drove up to the barricade near the president's vacation home in Kailua.
9-11 Truthers
117 | Gus Fri, Dec 31, 2010 8:58:11am |
re: #116 Killgore Trout
Drudge has this at the top of the page...
TV Crew Covering President Claims Mistreatment9-11 Truthers
Check out the website of the "investigative journalist" the interview for that story.
118 | Killgore Trout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:01:45am |
re: #117 Gus 802
Check out the website of the "investigative journalist" the interview for that story.
These idiots have love to antagonize cops so they can play the victim. They do it all the time.
119 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:02:55am |
re: #118 Killgore Trout
These idiots have love to antagonize cops so they can play the victim. They do it all the time.
FREEDOM!
120 | Gus Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:04:10am |
re: #118 Killgore Trout
These idiots have love to antagonize cops so they can play the victim. They do it all the time.
Yeah. They had their number on this lunatic.
121 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:04:35am |
'Homeland' sec JNap pestering troops in Afghanistan....meanwhile the borders are insecure and the TSA is under fire...oh well
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
122 | Political Atheist Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:05:43am |
re: #117 Gus 802
Did you see where a Telegraph reporter was assaulted by some unofficial assistant to a Senator? Big guy just slams the photog into a wall then column a few moments later...
SNIP
A man apparently accompanying state Sen. Robert Brown to a hurriedly called Thursday news conference attacked and injured Telegraph photographer Woody Marshall at Macon City Hall, prompting conflicting stories from those involved.
Read more: [Link: www.macon.com...]
123 | Killgore Trout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:06:05am |
re: #117 Gus 802
Check out the comments from Glenn Beck fans at the Blaze....
‘Truther’ TV Crew Left Bloodied in Video Confrontation With Cops Guarding Obama
Pretty much universal support for the truthers.
124 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:06:23am |
re: #118 Killgore Trout
These idiots have love to antagonize cops so they can play the victim. They do it all the time.
from the website...
[Link: www.sherrikane.com...]
whoa nellie!
125 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:07:47am |
re: #122 Rightwingconspirator
Did you see where a Telegraph reporter was assaulted by some unofficial assistant to a Senator? Big guy just slams the photog into a wall then column a few moments later...
SNIP
A man apparently accompanying state Sen. Robert Brown to a hurriedly called Thursday news conference attacked and injured Telegraph photographer Woody Marshall at Macon City Hall, prompting conflicting stories from those involved.Read more: [Link: www.macon.com...]
the pink dude looks massive!
127 | Political Atheist Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:07:56am |
re: #117 Gus 802
Ohhh boy. Love to see the cop car camera footage of that one.
129 | Gus Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:09:24am |
re: #123 Killgore Trout
Check out the comments from Glenn Beck fans at the Blaze...
‘Truther’ TV Crew Left Bloodied in Video Confrontation With Cops Guarding ObamaPretty much universal support for the truthers.
Figures. I've long given up on trying to point out the convergence of these nuts and some factions on the right. It all fits into the crazed narrative of "the Obama police". Funny, these are the same nuts that were also going after Bush. They're truthers and Drudge and Glenn Beck has been pimping them for the past 2 years.
130 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:10:29am |
re: #123 Killgore Trout
Check out the comments from Glenn Beck fans at the Blaze...
‘Truther’ TV Crew Left Bloodied in Video Confrontation With Cops Guarding ObamaPretty much universal support for the truthers.
Here's an archtypical wingnut post:
Marcobob69
Posted on December 31, 2010 at 9:25amCan you say….MARTIAL LAW!!! Coming to a FREEDOM LOVING COUNTRY NEAR YOU! WAKE UP, AMERICA!!! CHANGE IS COMING, BUT NOT THE KIND WE CAN BELIEVE IN!!!
131 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:11:43am |
re: #121 albusteve
'Homeland' sec JNap pestering troops in Afghanistan...meanwhile the borders are insecure and the TSA is under fire...oh well
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
The mission of Homeland Security and the tightening of the border was to protect this Country from terrorist attacks, sadly, it failed and fell into a trap that has changed the destiny of our world.
Did our government really think that a terrorist is going to dress like a migrant worker and try to walk across the Sonoran desert? The answer is no, but terrorism as an act did come across the Mexican/American border. After 911, while our government was looking in the opposite direction, they ignored the very simplest form of attack. A black death, no it wasn’t anthrax, it was meth. Terrorist organizations funded the Mexican Mafia to set up methamphetamine labs and continue to supply them with huge shipments of chemicals to manufacture a highly addictive strain of meth. Then, use their long established marijuana dealing network to distribute it to every community through out the United States, attacking our country through our youth. Beginning in our rural towns it has spread to our cities. Because of it’s highly addictive qualities developed in overseas labs, Mexican meth is destroying families and individuals at an alarming rate through addiction, crime and violence.
We now have a very serious problem facing the United States and the security of all it’s people. This is not a Democratic or Republican, Liberal or Conservative issue and has nothing to do with the migrant worker except that he/she now pays with their lives. It’s about violent crime! Put aside for a moment the fact that a poorly educated minority is placed in between two governments, manipulated by subversive humanitarian groups, at the mercy of international organized crime and politics in an area of our country where they face the dangers of the wilderness, the crime of a large city and no law. The criminal element is thriving on their mere presence. Put aside for now, the controversy of amnesty or children’s hopes of education and the American Dream. What ever your stance on these issues, let your opinions rest for a moment, because a sensationalizing media will be there to resurrect your particular cause and feed your secular view after the commercials. Border Violence and the tip of terrorism is at our door and it is not locked on the other hand it is wide open.
Some of the pictures are hard to look at.
132 | Gus Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:11:59am |
re: #124 albusteve
from the website...
[Link: www.sherrikane.com...]whoa nellie!
Whoa indeed! Check out this one:
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133 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:12:09am |
re: #129 Gus 802
Figures. I've long given up on trying to point out the convergence of these nuts and some factions on the right. It all fits into the crazed narrative of "the Obama police". Funny, these are the same nuts that were also going after Bush. They're truthers and Drudge and Glenn Beck has been pimping them for the past 2 years.
they have found their groove, got a solid playbook, plenty of targets and an unlimited agenda...out there trolling for their trophy incident
134 | Political Atheist Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:12:35am |
re: #125 albusteve
Freakin huge. If that were me getting attacked it would be a far larger story, as when big attacks small, small must not hold back. Hunt the weapon and wreck it. In this case hands and arms. The nature of those injuries show an intent to defend, not revenge.
135 | darthstar Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:13:09am |
re: #123 Killgore Trout
Check out the comments from Glenn Beck fans at the Blaze...
‘Truther’ TV Crew Left Bloodied in Video Confrontation With Cops Guarding ObamaPretty much universal support for the truthers.
I can't wait until tomorrow, because next year is going to be different! Right?
136 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:13:59am |
re: #131 NJDhockeyfan
she will simply deny the obvious and move along...that's her gig, softening up the border for votes
137 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:16:49am |
re: #132 Gus 802
I have seen those murals and was really dumbfounded...I have no clue what they mean, but they are pretty shocking...I mean, it's an airport
138 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:17:08am |
Authorities Say Teen Tried to Smuggle Ammo Into Mexico
HIDALGO - A Mexican teen accused of trying to smuggle ammo into Mexico is in U.S. custody tonight.
Customs and Border Protection and ICE special agents said 18-year old Victor Vazquez-Ramirez tried to smuggle a 100-round box of ammunition.
CBP officers said he was walking along this international bridge. The bullets were in his sweatshirt pocket. Vazquez told ICE agents he was in the United States illegally.
He said he picked up the ammo from a friend and was taking it to his uncle in Reynosa to fire in the air during a New Year's Day celebration.
Court records show Vazquez had been voluntarily deported nearly 40 times. He has no other criminal history in the United States.
139 | Gus Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:17:21am |
A new flu pandemic marketing campaign is underway, and to support Big Pharma’s agenda, it includes hefty propaganda. Chief whistle-blowers are being discredited for defending the public against the advancing biological apocalypse, toxic vaccinations, and deadly drugs.
I am talking about Dr. Leonard Horowitz, and Jane Burgermeister, who led the battle for We The People in the 2009 Swine Flu fright, fraud, and vaccination campaign. Their efforts, multiplied by hundreds of other journalist-activists who circulated their research, prompted the majority of medical professionals to reject the David Rockefeller-directed World Health Organization's H1N1 "immunization" agenda.
The petrochemical-pharmaceutical cartel is very clever, and "they" will do anything to neutralize resistance to their genocidal practices. The best thing we can do is stay strong, vigilant, and support each other...
Sherri Kane
140 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:18:07am |
re: #136 albusteve
she will simply deny the obvious and move along...that's her gig, softening up the border for votes
And because trying to actually fix problem inevitably hurts or at least annoys people. Better to stick to chirpy nonsense so you don't piss people off.
141 | Killgore Trout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:18:34am |
re: #135 darthstar
I can't wait until tomorrow, because next year is going to be different! Right?
Damn, it's New Year's Eve, isn't it?
142 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:19:34am |
143 | darthstar Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:20:36am |
re: #138 NJDhockeyfan
Probably a box of .22s but since he was an illegal alien trying to get back into Mexico, it could mean a big news special on the flow of guns and ammo from the US to Mexico. Scary brown people, next on FOX/ABC/CNN/CBS/NBC!
144 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:20:37am |
re: #140 Dark_Falcon
And because trying to actually fix problem inevitably hurts or at least annoys people. Better to stick to chirpy nonsense so you don't piss people off.
it's dereliction...simply ignoring the Constitution and the overwhelming will of the people...and one wonders about my piss poor attitude toward the feds...re-election trumps everything
145 | darthstar Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:20:53am |
146 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:20:54am |
re: #118 Killgore Trout
These idiots have love to antagonize cops so they can play the victim. They do it all the time.
Don't take those kind of freedoms for granted, though, even though they can be abused. In Germany, you cannot legally just film police and in most states here they do not wear name or nummer identification badges.
147 | Gus Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:23:02am |
re: #137 albusteve
I have seen those murals and was really dumbfounded...I have no clue what they mean, but they are pretty shocking...I mean, it's an airport
DIA Conspiracies Take Off
Conspiracy theorists think something's fishy at Denver International Airport.
148 | jaunte Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:24:25am |
re: #139 Gus 802
Chemtrails to colloidal silver, she's got it all.
149 | Gus Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:24:53am |
re: #147 Gus 802
DIA Conspiracies Take Off
Conspiracy theorists think something's fishy at Denver International Airport.
Excerpt. From the artist:
Back in 1994, Leo Tanguma was working in his studio in the Lakeside Mall when a van full of people pulled up.
"And they weren't hostile," he recalls. "They asked a lot of questions." They wanted to know about all the different symbols in the murals that he'd been commissioned to make for the still-unopened DIA. "And I explained it like I explain it to everybody," the artist says. The first part of the environmental mural is about the ways that humans destroy nature and themselves through destruction and genocide. The second part is about humanity coming together to rehabilitate nature and revive their own compassion.
Tanguma likes to keep things simple. He may be left-wing, but he says he's not a liberal intellectual. He's a Christian who thinks of his murals as painted sermons, depicting the virtues of the poor and hardworking, and warning against the evils of greed and violence. Like many painters trained in the Mexican style of mural art, Tanguma gears his work to the street and all of its elements, everyone from businessmen and college professors to people like his parents, who were all but illiterate. The last thing Tanguma wants is for viewers to mistake his meaning.
The visitors stayed for more than an hour, looking around his studio, talking. One of the women asked Tanguma if the airport had told him what to paint. He remembers that, because he remembers how she said it. He told her no, that he was given no instructions on content. And then the visitors began to talk about how the United Nations was another conspiracy to take over the United States.
"How do you figure that?" he asked.
Before they left, they went to the back of their van and pulled out a thick, photocopied book detailing the U.N. conspiracy. They gave Tanguma the book. He knew where it was until about ten years ago, when he moved his studio from the strip mall to a modest house in Arvada where he lives with his wife.
Now that his art has become so central to a growing group of conspiracies, he wishes he could find it.
150 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:25:46am |
re: #143 darthstar
Probably a box of .22s but since he was an illegal alien trying to get back into Mexico, it could mean a big news special on the flow of guns and ammo from the US to Mexico. Scary brown people, next on FOX/ABC/CNN/CBS/NBC!
a .22 Mag is an extremely lethal round if you hit the right spot...light, quiet and cheap....very usable...or the could be .308 Lapua, perfect for long range killing....you claim a "box of .22s" just to set up your snark...go ahead and blow it off
152 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:27:10am |
re: #147 Gus 802
DIA Conspiracies Take Off
Conspiracy theorists think something's fishy at Denver International Airport.
Well yes, there's something fishy. Charles maintains a nitrogen-filled chamber under DIA as a second home. I'm surprised its taken them this long to figure it out.
153 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:28:05am |
re: #147 Gus 802
DIA Conspiracies Take Off
Conspiracy theorists think something's fishy at Denver International Airport.
I have no clue, but they are definitely meaty stuff...I suppose you could simply ask the artist what's up
154 | Gus Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:28:17am |
Here's her buddy Leonard Horowitz.
Horowitz is the most publicized proponent of the conspiracy theory that HIV was deliberately designed by US military lab in the 1970s for use as a genocidal weapon. The scientific consensus is that HIV is a variation of simian immunodeficiency virus that crossed into humans and mutated into a virus lethal to humans...
On April 27, 2008, Barack Obama's former pastor, Jeremiah Wright, during questions and answers at the National Press Club in connection with the general controversy over his opinions, was asked by a moderator, "In your sermon, you said the government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. So I ask you: Do you honestly believe your statement and those words?" Wright responded, "Have you read Horowitz's book, "Emerging Viruses: AIDS and Ebola," whoever wrote that question? .... I read different things. As I said to my members, if you haven't read things, then you can't – based on this Tuskegee experiment and based on what has happened to Africans in this country, I believe our government is capable of doing anything."
On October 7, 2009, Horowitz told al Jazeera that H1N1 vaccines would cause sterility, as part of a plan of "pangenocide" against Muslims. An identical claim was previously circulated by Muslim clerics in Kano, Nigeria in 2003, leading to a resurgence of polio in North Africa. Horowitz was a speaker at Conspiracy Con in 2001, 2004 and 2007.
155 | Political Atheist Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:28:39am |
re: #143 darthstar
Hey, given the drug war carnage, it is a big deal. Too many deaths to be flippant.
157 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:31:19am |
re: #150 albusteve
a .22 Mag is an extremely lethal round if you hit the right spot...light, quiet and cheap...very usable...or the could be .308 Lapua, perfect for long range killing...you claim a "box of .22s" just to set up your snark...go ahead and blow it off
Good point. Add to that the fact that we do have a responsibility to help control the flow of arms to the cartels. This was a legit arrest, Darth, don't blow it off.
159 | darthstar Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:32:24am |
re: #150 albusteve
a .22 Mag is an extremely lethal round if you hit the right spot...light, quiet and cheap...very usable...or the could be .308 Lapua, perfect for long range killing...you claim a "box of .22s" just to set up your snark...go ahead and blow it off
100 rounds fit in his pocket. 100 .308s would be the size of a small brick. The kid has no criminal record and has a history of coming to the US to get shit. 40 voluntary deportations - he's a day crosser. Now, of course, he's a felon, and his days of casually coming to California to destroy our democracy, the sanctity of marriage, and the security of our very nation before going home to his family are at an end.
160 | darthstar Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:33:28am |
re: #155 Rightwingconspirator
Hey, given the drug war carnage, it is a big deal. Too many deaths to be flippant.
The drug warriors simply pay clean-cut looking white people to load a car full of guns and ammo and drive it across the border, as they probably won't get searched.
161 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:35:54am |
re: #105 000G
[Link: www.newsweek.com...]
:-)
Christmas with Julian, complete with photos of Julian working hard tossing firewood somewhere, and then relaxing after a hard day's work in his holey-socked feet.
Please excuse me while I gag.
Are you truly fascinated with this guy, or what?
162 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:36:05am |
re: #159 darthstar
100 rounds fit in his pocket. 100 .308s would be the size of a small brick. The kid has no criminal record and has a history of coming to the US to get shit. 40 voluntary deportations - he's a day crosser. Now, of course, he's a felon, and his days of casually coming to California to destroy our democracy, the sanctity of marriage, and the security of our very nation before going home to his family are at an end.
wow, really?....he's a desperate, usable young man...a victim of our border policies...we are creating these people and it's morally wrong...it has nothing to do with destroying democracy etc
163 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:36:39am |
re: #159 darthstar
100 rounds fit in his pocket. 100 .308s would be the size of a small brick. The kid has no criminal record and has a history of coming to the US to get shit. 40 voluntary deportations - he's a day crosser. Now, of course, he's a felon, and his days of casually coming to California to destroy our democracy, the sanctity of marriage, and the security of our very nation before going home to his family are at an end.
He may be some innocent lost kid from Mexico trying to help his daddy get fireworks bullets to celebrate New Years or he could be working for a drug cartel. They are known to hire children ya know. Nobody knows yet so don't just assume anything. Nobody else is.
164 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:37:24am |
re: #161 reine.de.tout
Christmas with Julian, complete with photos of Julian working hard tossing firewood somewhere, and then relaxing after a hard day's work in his holey-socked feet.
Please excuse me while I gag.
Are you truly fascinated with this guy, or what?
groupies...there are media stars and their groupies
165 | darthstar Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:38:04am |
re: #162 albusteve
wow, really?...he's a desperate, usable young man...a victim of our border policies...we are creating these people and it's morally wrong...it has nothing to do with destroying democracy etc
Sorry...was just trying to buy into the xenophobia...guess I fell short...again.
166 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:38:14am |
re: #159 darthstar
100 rounds fit in his pocket. 100 .308s would be the size of a small brick. The kid has no criminal record and has a history of coming to the US to get shit. 40 voluntary deportations - he's a day crosser. Now, of course, he's a felon, and his days of casually coming to California to destroy our democracy, the sanctity of marriage, and the security of our very nation before going home to his family are at an end.
Maybe they were 9mm or .38 Special, you just don't know. The fact is Mexico has laws about taking ammo into that country and we have laws to prevent ammo smuggling. Given cartel violence, such ammo being brought to drug gangs is a real possibility. In any case, to arrest him and charge him is not an "overreaction", it's proper enforcement of the law.
167 | Political Atheist Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:38:31am |
re: #160 darthstar
It's not nearly that simple.
In 2007-2008, according to ATF Special Agent William Newell, Mexico submitted 11,000 guns to the ATF for tracing. Close to 6,000 were successfully traced -- and of those, 90 percent -- 5,114 to be exact, according to testimony in Congress by William Hoover -- were found to have come from the U.S.
But in those same two years, according to the Mexican government, 29,000 guns were recovered at crime scenes.
In other words, 68 percent of the guns that were recovered were never submitted for tracing. And when you weed out the roughly 6,000 guns that could not be traced from the remaining 32 percent, it means 83 percent of the guns found at crime scenes in Mexico could not be traced to the U.S.
So, if not from the U.S., where do they come from? There are a variety of sources:
-- The Black Market. Mexico is a virtual arms bazaar, with fragmentation grenades from South Korea, AK-47s from China, and shoulder-fired rocket launchers from Spain, Israel and former Soviet bloc manufacturers.
-- Russian crime organizations. Interpol says Russian Mafia groups such as Poldolskaya and Moscow-based Solntsevskaya are actively trafficking drugs and arms in Mexico.
- South America. During the late 1990s, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) established a clandestine arms smuggling and drug trafficking partnership with the Tijuana cartel, according to the Federal Research Division report from the Library of Congress.
-- Asia. According to a 2006 Amnesty International Report, China has provided arms to countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America. Chinese assault weapons and Korean explosives have been recovered in Mexico.
-- The Mexican Army. More than 150,000 soldiers deserted in the last six years, according to Mexican Congressman Robert Badillo. Many took their weapons with them, including the standard issue M-16 assault rifle made in Belgium.
-- Guatemala. U.S. intelligence agencies say traffickers move immigrants, stolen cars, guns and drugs, including most of America's cocaine, along the porous Mexican-Guatemalan border. On March 27, La Hora, a Guatemalan newspaper, reported that police seized 500 grenades and a load of AK-47s on the border. Police say the cache was transported by a Mexican drug cartel operating out of Ixcan, a border town.
'These Don't Come From El Paso'
Ed Head, a firearms instructor in Arizona who spent 24 years with the U.S. Border Patrol, recently displayed an array of weapons considered "assault rifles" that are similar to those recovered in Mexico, but are unavailable for sale in the U.S.
"These kinds of guns -- the auto versions of these guns -- they are not coming from El Paso," he said. "They are coming from other sources. They are brought in from Guatemala. They are brought in from places like China. They are being diverted from the military. But you don't get these guns from the U.S."
Some guns, he said, "are legitimately shipped to the government of Mexico, by Colt, for example, in the United States. They are approved by the U.S. government for use by the Mexican military service. The guns end up in Mexico that way -- the fully auto versions -- they are not smuggled in across the river."
168 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:38:38am |
169 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:39:16am |
re: #161 reine.de.tout
Christmas with Julian, complete with photos of Julian working hard tossing firewood somewhere, and then relaxing after a hard day's work in his holey-socked feet.
Please excuse me while I gag.
Are you truly fascinated with this guy, or what?
I thought folks here at LGF would have a good laugh over it, that's why I posted the link.
170 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:40:18am |
re: #165 darthstar
Sorry...was just trying to buy into the xenophobia...guess I fell short...again.
I know of no xenophobes at LGF regardless of accusations....it's a cheezy fallback
171 | darthstar Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:40:34am |
re: #166 Dark_Falcon
Maybe they were 9mm or .38 Special, you just don't know. The fact is Mexico has laws about taking ammo into that country and we have laws to prevent ammo smuggling. Given cartel violence, such ammo being brought to drug gangs is a real possibility. In any case, to arrest him and charge him is not an "overreaction", it's proper enforcement of the law.
Agreed. He broke the law. But he's not a 'smuggler' in the "scary evil people" sense of the word. His record of saying, "My bad...I'll go back to Mexico" 40 times shows he's probably not a menace to society, but given our post 9/11 paranoia in this country (still!), it's better to assume the worst.
172 | Political Atheist Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:40:36am |
re: #169 000G
He did make it easier to skip breakfast... News Nausea can do that.
173 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:41:19am |
re: #169 000G
I thought folks here at LGF would have a good laugh over it, that's why I posted the link.
ah.
Maybe somebody did.
Me personally, I had a serious gagging-upset stomach reaction.
174 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:41:24am |
re: #165 darthstar
Sorry...was just trying to buy into the xenophobia...guess I fell short...again.
There was no ELEVENTY!!1 in that article, or in anything NJD Hockey Fan or Albusteve said. The concerns were legitimate, and so was the arrest. Carrying ammo is not the same as being a day laborer.
175 | darthstar Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:41:32am |
re: #167 Rightwingconspirator
And this kid had 100 rounds of ammo that fit into a sweater pocket.
176 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:42:39am |
re: #171 darthstar
Agreed. He broke the law. But he's not a 'smuggler' in the "scary evil people" sense of the word. His record of saying, "My bad...I'll go back to Mexico" 40 times shows he's probably not a menace to society, but given our post 9/11 paranoia in this country (still!), it's better to assume the worst.
uh, what?
40 times he's had to say "My bad, I'll go back to Mexico"?
Once, twice, yeah.
40 times leads me to believe he's not really serious about it, ya know?
(admission: I did not read the article)
177 | Gus Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:43:58am |
re: #168 reine.de.tout
"petrochemical-pharmaceutical cartel"?
I had no clue there was such a thing.
You learn something new everyday. I'm sure there are also Martians involved.
/
178 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:44:03am |
re: #171 darthstar
Agreed. He broke the law. But he's not a 'smuggler' in the "scary evil people" sense of the word. His record of saying, "My bad...I'll go back to Mexico" 40 times shows he's probably not a menace to society, but given our post 9/11 paranoia in this country (still!), it's better to assume the worst.
Yeah, those silly kids wouldn't harm anyone.
Except when they do...
14-year-old: Mexican drug gang made me behead 4
In cargo pants and a T-shirt, the skinny, American-born 14-year-old looked like he should be in middle school. Instead he was surrounded by three armed Mexican soldiers in ski masks and camouflage as he told reporters that he helped a Mexican drug gang behead four people.
Mexican officials say they arrested the youth known as "El Ponchis" late Thursday at an airport south of Mexico City with a 19-year-old sister who is accused of helping him dump the bodies. Authorities said he was caught with two cell phones that held photographs of tortured victims.
Many youths have been used by drug cartels in their bloody battles against the government and each other, but the story of El Ponchis may be the most shocking. A YouTube video that emerged a month ago sparked talk of a child hit man — said by some to be as young as 12.
"I participated in four executions, but I did it drugged and under threat that if I didn't, they would kill me," the boy said calmly when he was handed over to the federal prosecutor Friday morning, showing no remorse.
Authorities identified the curly-haired suspect by his first name only — Edgar.
He told reporters early Friday he was kidnapped at the age of 11 and forced to work for the Cartel of the South Pacific, a branch of the splintered Beltran Leyva gang, and that he had participated in at least four decapitations.
Authorities said the siblings were detained at an airport near Cuernavaca in Morelos state with paid tickets to flee the country.
179 | darthstar Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:44:50am |
re: #178 NJDhockeyfan
Yeah, those silly kids wouldn't harm anyone.
Except when they do...
See? That's why I stopped watching the A-Team.
180 | Political Atheist Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:45:20am |
re: #176 reine.de.tout
uh, what?
40 times he's had to say "My bad, I'll go back to Mexico"?
Once, twice, yeah.
40 times leads me to believe he's not really serious about it, ya know?
(admission: I did not read the article)
40 times? Unrepentant would be a fair description. Talk about repeat offenders. And now he escalates to smuggling. What was next drug cash?
181 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:45:48am |
re: #177 Gus 802
You learn something new everyday. I'm sure there are also Martians involved.
/
I had no clue my oil-well-drilling hubby was also a part of a pharmaceutical cartel. Way I see it, he's not being paid nearly enough! Time for a raise!
182 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:46:05am |
Why Fox News Continues to Roll
I don’t believe this is about one political opinion versus another. I believe this is about people wanting, and needing, to form opinions faster and with less work on their own part.
It is, frankly, easier for someone to turn on either Fox News or MSNBC, listen to the frequent opinion expressed, right or left, and benchmark themselves against that opinion rather than forming their own opinion based on independent thinking.
So if a new Supreme Court Justice was named tomorrow, more people would check out what Fox and MSNBC said about him or her, and then quickly decide whether or not they were in favor or opposed to approving the candidate. “If Fox (or MSNBC) like him, so do I,” a viewer can decide, (or the opposite) based totally on that viewer’s political stance and how it relates to Fox or MSNBC.
In the past, many of those people would have spent the time with a more objective outlet, like CNN or the New York Times, done more research of the candidate, and made up their own minds. Now, it’s just faster to have someone do that for you.
It’s a bad thing for democracy. We are creating a less-informed but more opinionated public.
183 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:47:00am |
re: #171 darthstar
Agreed. He broke the law. But he's not a 'smuggler' in the "scary evil people" sense of the word. His record of saying, "My bad...I'll go back to Mexico" 40 times shows he's probably not a menace to society, but given our post 9/11 paranoia in this country (still!), it's better to assume the worst.
I never said he has evil. But the charge may be smuggling because that is what the statutes call it. There's also the fact that US law treats carrying ammo as different than many other produces. If a cop found a 100 round box of ammo in your pocket even away from the border, you'd likely be in trouble. It's not paranoia, its the law.
184 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:47:29am |
re: #179 darthstar
See? That's why I stopped watching the A-Team.
any time you want to post your ideas concerning the border/illegal immigration/drug war thoughts I'd be willing to read them
185 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:47:39am |
re: #183 Dark_Falcon
I never said he has evil. But the charge may be smuggling because that is what the statutes call it. There's also the fact that US law treats carrying ammo as different than many other produces. If a cop found a 100 round box of ammo in your pocket even away from the border, you'd likely be in trouble. It's not paranoia, its the law.
OR, the charge may be smuggling because he's done it 40 times?
186 | darthstar Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:47:39am |
re: #180 Rightwingconspirator
40 times? Unrepentant would be a fair description. Talk about repeat offenders. And now he escalates to smuggling. What was next drug cash?
Probably Justin Bieber t-shirts. Or something even more evil. Sorry. I can't live in fear like this. He said he was going to take the rounds to his father. Maybe the authorities will question his father, who will have to surrender his gun (which is probably illegal, anyway), and this will not result in new homeland security policy changes about disrobing at airports.
187 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:49:16am |
n the past, many of those people would have spent the time with a more objective outlet, like CNN or the New York Times,
haha!...good one
188 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:49:45am |
re: #179 darthstar
See? That's why I stopped watching the A-Team.
This is not a thing to be flippant about. These cartels are wrecking havoc, and US law enforcement has a part to play in stopping them. Should we just abdicate that duty, and let people die?
189 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:50:00am |
re: #186 darthstar
Probably Justin Bieber t-shirts. Or something even more evil. Sorry. I can't live in fear like this. He said he was going to take the rounds to his father. Maybe the authorities will question his father, who will have to surrender his gun (which is probably illegal, anyway), and this will not result in new homeland security policy changes about disrobing at airports.
Did somebody say it would? (trying to catch up here)
190 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:50:04am |
re: #187 albusteve
n the past, many of those people would have spent the time with a more objective outlet, like CNN or the New York Times,haha!...good one
That's funny as shit! Hahahahahaha!
191 | darthstar Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:50:05am |
re: #185 reine.de.tout
OR, the charge may be smuggling because he's done it 40 times?
Voluntary deportation is what happens when La Migra checks your papers and you don't have any, nor do you have any contraband (you get searched) on you. You board a bus, they drive you to the border crossing, and you walk across the bridge (which, really, is a bridge, I walked it several times in college when we'd park on the CA side, cross over, and take a cab to TJ for cheap tequila and beer).
192 | lawhawk Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:51:05am |
re: #186 darthstar
Justin Bieber is a Zionist conspiracy! After all, who else would usher in the apocalypse? //////
193 | What, me worry? Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:52:16am |
re: #178 NJDhockeyfan
I think that article is quite clear that they're put up to it, usually at the threat of their deaths or their families... ala Charles Taylor.
194 | darthstar Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:52:31am |
re: #188 Dark_Falcon
This is not a thing to be flippant about. These cartels are wrecking havoc, and US law enforcement has a part to play in stopping them. Should we just abdicate that duty, and let people die?
NJD elevated it from 100 rounds to beheadings. He can choose to live in fear, but I won't buy into it and will mock that kind of fear mongering every time I see it.
Yes, it happens. And it sucks. But not every 14 year old Mexican kid is a potential beheading jihadist Republican, for fuck's sake...sheesh.
Okay...enough internettin' for this year. See you all next year, if that comet manages to miss our planet at midnight local time.
195 | Gus Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:53:20am |
re: #116 Killgore Trout
Drudge has this at the top of the page...
TV Crew Covering President Claims Mistreatment9-11 Truthers
I know I'm beating a dead horse here but here's a crazy comment from that link:
gommygoomy
Dec. 31, 2010 7:35am HST
Is this surprising? He's a LEFTIST. This is the same treatment you would have received from "Security Forces" in any dictatorship. Cuba. Russia. Iran. North Korea. Venezuela. Who do you think you are? Who did you think this guy was? Frank Marshall Davis. Jeremiah Wright. Bill Ayers. Khalid Rashidi. The Black Panthers. WHO did you think this guy was? He's Mussolini. He's Lenin. He's Stalin and Mao and Mugabe. He's Castro and he's Chavez.
The irony of course is that Jeremiah Wright was endorsing a book by Leonard Horowitz who is a buddy of Sherri Kane.
Stalin and Mao and Mugabe? These people are insane.
196 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:53:47am |
re: #191 darthstar
Voluntary deportation is what happens when La Migra checks your papers and you don't have any, nor do you have any contraband (you get searched) on you. You board a bus, they drive you to the border crossing, and you walk across the bridge (which, really, is a bridge, I walked it several times in college when we'd park on the CA side, cross over, and take a cab to TJ for cheap tequila and beer).
I have no clue about this kid that we're talking about.
But assuming kids are kids and no danger to anyone, is, well, unrealistic, IMO.
197 | What, me worry? Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:53:53am |
re: #192 lawhawk
Justin Bieber is a Zionist conspiracy! After all, who else would usher in the apocalypse? ///
lol Poor Justin. I have new found love for the poor kid.
198 | Gus Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:54:44am |
re: #195 Gus 802
I know I'm beating a dead horse here but here's a crazy comment from that link:
The irony of course is that Jeremiah Wright was endorsing a book by Leonard Horowitz who is a buddy of Sherri Kane.
Stalin and Mao and Mugabe? These people are insane.
Oops. Wrong link on the Wright endorsement. Correct one here.
200 | Stanghazi Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:56:14am |
re: #192 lawhawk
Justin Bieber is a Zionist conspiracy! After all, who else would usher in the apocalypse? ///
Did you see the article yesterday where the Anti-Mosque guy (the construction worker) got fooled by a satirical article about Beiber being for Park 51?
[Link: www.talkingpointsmemo.com...]
And with that, the circle was completed.
202 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:57:05am |
re: #194 darthstar
NJD elevated it from 100 rounds to beheadings. He can choose to live in fear, but I won't buy into it and will mock that kind of fear mongering every time I see it.
Yes, it happens. And it sucks. But not every 14 year old Mexican kid is a potential beheading jihadist Republican, for fuck's sake...sheesh.
Okay...enough internettin' for this year. See you all next year, if that comet manages to miss our planet at midnight local time.
We're not saying that! What we've been saying is that carrying ammo across the border is a serious matter, and should not simply be brushed aside. Don't be so quick to judge, we're not loonies here. Geeze Louise.
203 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:57:16am |
re: #194 darthstar
NJD elevated it from 100 rounds to beheadings. He can choose to live in fear, but I won't buy into it and will mock that kind of fear mongering every time I see it.
Yes, it happens. And it sucks. But not every 14 year old Mexican kid is a potential beheading jihadist Republican, for fuck's sake...sheesh.
Okay...enough internettin' for this year. See you all next year, if that comet manages to miss our planet at midnight local time.
I never suggested that but don't assume every child caught at the border with ammo is innocent either.
206 | jaunte Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:57:44am |
re: #161 reine.de.tout
Christmas with Julian, complete with photos of Julian working hard tossing firewood somewhere, and then relaxing after a hard day's work in his holey-socked feet.
Please excuse me while I gag.
Are you truly fascinated with this guy, or what?
I had no idea he was a firewood tosser.
207 | NJDhockeyfan Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:58:15am |
Later gators. Gotta git. Have a great day!
208 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:58:21am |
re: #206 jaunte
I had no idea he was a firewood tosser.
Or fence-jumper (if you looked at the photos).
Actually, I had no idea he did much of anything at all except hang around looking ultra-cool.
209 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:58:44am |
re: #202 Dark_Falcon
We're not saying that! What we've been saying is that carrying ammo across the border is a serious matter, and should not simply be brushed aside. Don't be so quick to judge, we're not loonies here. Geeze Louise.
yes we are...if we want a tight, secure border, we are in the minority, even loonies
210 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:59:27am |
211 | Stanghazi Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:59:49am |
re: #205 Gus 802
We are about to embark on The Year of Eleventy!
Be afraid!
/
Actually Gus, I think you just gave the best prediction for our upcoming year.
Get ready folks!
212 | Political Atheist Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:01:01am |
re: #196 reine.de.tout
Anything that impugns or reduces in any way the "illegal immigration is good" meme takes those kinds of hits. Which sucks.
213 | Gus Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:01:21am |
re: #211 Stanley Sea
Actually Gus, I think you just gave the best prediction for our upcoming year.
Get ready folks!
11/11/11 is [also] coming soon! The end of the world is near!
//
214 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:01:28am |
217 | What, me worry? Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:02:40am |
re: #203 NJDhockeyfan
I never suggested that but don't assume every child caught at the border with ammo is innocent either.
How can you say that after posting that article that they're kidnapped, drugged and threatened into it? I have no clue if that's the case for all, but I'm assuming it's the great majority. And that makes more sense if it's happened with this kid 40 times.
When I used to visit my mom in AZ, we'd go to Nogales, just across the border. This is going back some 15 years, but the amount of child beggars were extraordinary. They didn't choose to do that.
218 | Political Atheist Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:02:45am |
219 | jaunte Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:03:31am |
re: #218 Rightwingconspirator
Well he's tossing someone else's firewood, so I'm not sure.
220 | Gus Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:04:14am |
re: #218 Rightwingconspirator
Is that what they call wanking these days?
I thought I saw a bottle of Tabasco sauce in the background.
//
222 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:04:54am |
well, it's finally over....
NM Gov Bill Richardson has decided against amnesty for Billy the Kid, a banner news story this past fall...the Kid blew away at least four people between 1878 and 1881...some needed killin and others were just in the way...for once Billy the Gov made the right choice imo...there is no solid proof the Gov Lew Wallace actually offered the Kid amnesty for his role in the famed Lincoln County War, the crown jewel of NM history....so be it
223 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:06:03am |
re: #214 Dark_Falcon
Aw come on, Steve. That was worth at least 3 points.
maybe, but there is no 3 pts
224 | Stanghazi Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:06:19am |
re: #222 albusteve
well, it's finally over...
NM Gov Bill Richardson has decided against amnesty for Billy the Kid, a banner news story this past fall...the Kid blew away at least four people between 1878 and 1881...some needed killin and others were just in the way...for once Billy the Gov made the right choice imo...there is no solid proof the Gov Lew Wallace actually offered the Kid amnesty for his role in the famed Lincoln County War, the crown jewel of NM history...so be it
Heard that story on NPR yesterday. Weird.
Jim Morrision, yes. Billy the Kid? huh?
225 | lostlakehiker Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:06:20am |
re: #21 engineer dog
they are working hard to breed them,
book hating, dog fighting, chock full of resentments,
impatiently slapping their palm with a blackjack,
upset because it's not time yet to beat up the wog
just because, that's all, just because[[snip]]
but this is not that place, this is not that time,
the ideas that our country was founded on are not such fertile soil for hate
not that that stops some peopleso little patches of hate weeds grow up, carefully tended and pumped full of artificial fertilizers,
watered by torrents of tough times, disappointments, things that hurt but have no explanations...if we were able to know what the future holds for us, it would be unbearable
i don't know if the weeds will grow over the garden
but it didn't happen yet
Despite all that, I think the future we will in the end choose holds more good than bad. Weeds don't get the industrial-strength fertilization and tending that the garden gets. Where is the cathedral from which this hate is preached? And yes, there is the odd mosque, but the truly rabid stuff is coming from holes-in-the-wall, not edifices for the ages.
Our leadership is better. I've been reading a history of the run-up to WW1, and the Kings, Kaisers, and Czars (really, it's Tsars, but the spell checker has a snit when I spell it that way) are such clueless fops. Many of them are just flat stupid. They'd lose to Palin at tic-tac-toe. D U M B.
Our institutions are better. Provided we dodge the worst of the bullet of AGW, we won't find ourselves in a spot where it's impossible to get around major, desperate economic calamities, the sort that throw half the population out of work and starve a tenth of us.
Barring that kind of economic meltdown, there's no starting point for the logic that since somebody has to die, it may as well be "them". When most everybody has some sort of chance at a life, havoc doesn't look very attractive.
This leaves us with nuisance-grade nihilists, not the sort that can ride a wave of brown-shirts or Red Banners or Green Banners or what have you into office.
226 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:08:16am |
re: #224 Stanley Sea
Heard that story on NPR yesterday. Weird.
Jim Morrision, yes. Billy the Kid? huh?
why is it weird?...those were real people and real events
227 | Kronocide Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:08:37am |
I predict a antivaxer eruption in 3...2..1..
228 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:09:50am |
re: #212 Rightwingconspirator
Anything that impugns or reduces in any way the "illegal immigration is good" meme takes those kinds of hits. Which sucks.
Yes, it does, and reduces or diminishes any genuine arguments in favor of immigrants, legal or not.
229 | Gus Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:10:03am |
re: #227 BigPapa
I predict a antivaxer eruption in 3...2..1..
The petrochemical-pharmaceutical cartelEleventy is at it again!
230 | Stanghazi Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:10:05am |
re: #226 albusteve
why is it weird?...those were real people and real events
I just don't get the NEED to pardon Billy. Who really cares? His heirs?
231 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:10:34am |
re: #225 lostlakehiker
Our leadership is better. I've been reading a history of the run-up to WW1, and the Kings, Kaisers, and Czars (really, it's Tsars, but the spell checker has a snit when I spell it that way) are such clueless fops. Many of them are just flat stupid. They'd lose to Palin at tic-tac-toe. D U M B.
Our institutions are better. Provided we dodge the worst of the bullet of AGW, we won't find ourselves in a spot where it's impossible to get around major, desperate economic calamities, the sort that throw half the population out of work and starve a tenth of us.
Apropos AGW: [Link: www.politico.com...]
232 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:11:38am |
re: #229 Gus 802
The petrochemical-pharmaceutical cartelEleventy is at it again!
And we have our very own representative of that cartel, right here (MOI!)!
Do you feel priviliged?
233 | What, me worry? Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:11:39am |
re: #226 albusteve
why is it weird?...those were real people and real events
it's weird because of all the really important things going on in this country, one would think Richardson and Crist have better things to do.
234 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:12:25am |
235 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:12:32am |
re: #85 Walter L. Newton
Oh, the quotes were just to set the phrase off... not to question the validity.
By the way... do you see the woman in this image from your link?
I think that's cool.
236 | Decatur Deb Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:13:34am |
On the last day of the year we are having the best weather of the year--75, partly cloudy. We are pumping heat and humidity into the problems in the center of the country, however.
237 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:13:51am |
re: #233 marjoriemoon
it's weird because of all the really important things going on in this country, one would think Richardson and Crist have better things to do.
I believe our gubmint officials need some comic relief at times.
And these sorts of non-issues do the job.
238 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:14:10am |
re: #230 Stanley Sea
I just don't get the NEED to pardon Billy. Who really cares? His heirs?
yes, the heirs of Gov Wallace and Pat Garrett who's grandson live here in ABQ, and others...it was a huge statewide scandal at the time and never resolved...much greater in scope than anything to do with Jim Morrison
239 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:14:49am |
re: #236 Decatur Deb
On the last day of the year we are having the best weather of the year--75, partly cloudy. We are pumping heat and humidity into the problems in the center of the country, however.
We're miserable.
71, humid, raining (hard), just a terrible no-good day.
240 | Stanghazi Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:15:09am |
re: #238 albusteve
yes, the heirs of Gov Wallace and Pat Garrett who's grandson live here in ABQ, and others...it was a huge statewide scandal at the time and never resolved...much greater in scope than anything to do with Jim Morrison
Oh, must read more. Thanks!
241 | Decatur Deb Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:15:43am |
re: #239 reine.de.tout
We're miserable.
71, humid, raining (hard), just a terrible no-good day.
Yeah--there's a tornado watch box between you and us.
242 | What, me worry? Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:15:54am |
re: #237 reine.de.tout
I believe our gubmint officials need some comic relief at times.
And these sorts of non-issues do the job.
lol you know my pat answer for that.... go help a soup kitchen!
Do the youngins even know who Billy the Kid was?? or for that matter, Jim Morrison?
243 | lostlakehiker Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:15:55am |
re: #228 reine.de.tout
Yes, it does, and reduces or diminishes any genuine arguments in favor of immigrants, legal or not.
Every immigrant is another mouth to feed, and another two hands and a brain to work with. But some immigrants have brains packed with skills we need and able hands, and others are not in any position to do much useful work that would otherwise not get done. While the unemployment rate hovers near 10 percent, our own poor need what unskilled work there is. We've got problems, and many illegal immigrants, and some who arrive legally, just add to the problems.
The exceptions among the illegal immigrants, and the heavy majority among those admitted because they are thought to have a useful skill, work out better. An hermetically sealed border that admits no immigration admits no Nicola Tesla, no Andrew Carnegie, and so forth. There are modern analogues. We need them.
244 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:16:11am |
246 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:17:06am |
re: #233 marjoriemoon
it's weird because of all the really important things going on in this country, one would think Richardson and Crist have better things to do.
that point was brought up about Richardson, but he didn't exactly govern NM these past eight years anyway...as for really important stuff happening in this country, a lot of garbage gets an unbelievable amount of attention....out here it was a fun story
247 | Gus Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:17:17am |
4.0°F here. Light snow. Talked to my folks and it's in the 50s in NJ.
248 | jaunte Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:17:27am |
re: #239 reine.de.tout
We're miserable.
71, humid, raining (hard), just a terrible no-good day.
Same here. Clammy.
249 | Decatur Deb Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:18:15am |
re: #247 Gus 802
4.0°F here. Light snow. Talked to my folks and it's in the 50s in NJ.
Bad. I'll get back to you in mid-August.
250 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:19:52am |
re: #227 BigPapa
I predict a antivaxer eruption in 3...2..1..
And the first comment is actually sane for once:
vociferous 10:11 AM on December 31, 2010
I hope they refuse to give out any exemptions,except for reasons of medical necessity. The anti-vaccination movement has harmed too many Californians already. It is time to put public health ahead of ignorant parents who think they know better than the medical community.
251 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:20:03am |
re: #242 marjoriemoon
lol you know my pat answer for that... go help a soup kitchen!
Do the youngins even know who Billy the Kid was?? or for that matter, Jim Morrison?
everybody out here knows who Billy the Kid was...nobody claimed it was of any interest to outstaters....your buzzkill won't work
252 | Gus Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:20:08am |
re: #249 Decatur Deb
Bad. I'll get back to you in mid-August.
To damn cold out there. Especially if you have to walk. Looking forward to spring.
253 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:20:50am |
re: #222 albusteve
Lawyer: [cross-examining Rooster] How many men have you shot since you became a marshal, Mr. Cogburn?
Rooster Cogburn: I never shot nobody I didn't have to.
Lawyer: That was not the question. How many?
Rooster Cogburn: Uh... shot or killed?
Lawyer: Oh, let's restrict it to "killed" so we may have a manageable figure.
254 | Decatur Deb Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:20:56am |
"Spy" is acting a little squirrelly at this end, not placing text in ding boxes.
255 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:21:03am |
So, I have a kindle that I love.
Daughter borrowed it and liked it, but she wanted the Nook, not the kindle.
We go to the store and look at the Nook.
IMO, the Kindle is easier and more intuitive to use, but then I'm old, what do I know?
Anyhow - the salesperson at the Barnes & Noble starts going on about how the Kindle only has 750,000 titles to choose from, whereas the Nook as about 2 million.
Most of the ones they're talking about in those figures aren't newer books which seem to be available in both Kindle and Nook format. The ones they're talking about are older titles for which there will be limited interest to begin with.
I'm at a loss to figure out why this is such a "selling" point. I mean, 750,000 book titles is more than any one person can read in a lifetime, so why would having even more than that be a major selling point?
256 | Kronocide Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:21:43am |
"I think we need to approach it as a solvable problem," Cullen said. "There's a way to talk about this in sort of a rational, decision-based framework that has people saying, 'Oh, OK, I see the risks and what I can do about it’ without feeling overwhelmed."
Read more: [Link: www.politico.com...]
I question whether the soft/gentle approach is correct.
257 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:22:10am |
re: #253 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Lawyer: [cross-examining Rooster] How many men have you shot since you became a marshal, Mr. Cogburn?
Rooster Cogburn: I never shot nobody I didn't have to.
Lawyer: That was not the question. How many?
Rooster Cogburn: Uh... shot or killed?
Lawyer: Oh, let's restrict it to "killed" so we may have a manageable figure.
can't wait to see it...terrific cast
258 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:22:18am |
re: #253 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Lawyer: [cross-examining Rooster] How many men have you shot since you became a marshal, Mr. Cogburn?
Rooster Cogburn: I never shot nobody I didn't have to.
Lawyer: That was not the question. How many?
Rooster Cogburn: Uh... shot or killed?
Lawyer: Oh, let's restrict it to "killed" so we may have a manageable figure.
You saw it?
Liked it?
I thought it was great.
259 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:22:36am |
re: #247 Gus 802
4.0°F here. Light snow. Talked to my folks and it's in the 50s in NJ.
I haven't been out yet. I still have a fever from last night, so i likely won't see my parents or my best friend today.
260 | Decatur Deb Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:23:34am |
re: #255 reine.de.tout
So, I have a kindle that I love.
Daughter borrowed it and liked it, but she wanted the Nook, not the kindle.We go to the store and look at the Nook.
IMO, the Kindle is easier and more intuitive to use, but then I'm old, what do I know?Anyhow - the salesperson at the Barnes & Noble starts going on about how the Kindle only has 750,000 titles to choose from, whereas the Nook as about 2 million.
Most of the ones they're talking about in those figures aren't newer books which seem to be available in both Kindle and Nook format. The ones they're talking about are older titles for which there will be limited interest to begin with.
I'm at a loss to figure out why this is such a "selling" point. I mean, 750,000 book titles is more than any one person can read in a lifetime, so why would having even more than that be a major selling point?
It makes no sense for me to ever buy a book. Between what I have on shelves and 2 cd-roms, I can not possibly live long enough to read those I want. Then there's LGF to eat up my vision and reading time.
261 | Gus Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:24:37am |
Looks like highs around 40 for NYC. Even includes some showers and rain. So much for the "ice age" meme we've been hearing of late.
262 | Stanghazi Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:25:00am |
You have no idea how beautiful a day it is here in So Cal. Chilly, but crisp and perfectly clear.
263 | albusteve Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:25:35am |
re: #256 BigPapa
"I think we need to approach it as a solvable problem," Cullen said. "There's a way to talk about this in sort of a rational, decision-based framework that has people saying, 'Oh, OK, I see the risks and what I can do about it’ without feeling overwhelmed."
Read more: [Link: www.politico.com...]
I question whether the soft/gentle approach is correct.
a national emergency....it's the only way around the skeptics
264 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:26:14am |
265 | Kronocide Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:27:24am |
re: #263 albusteve
a national emergency...it's the only way around the skeptics
There's no going around the skeptics, they'll take whatever tact they can.
We need to go through them.
266 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:27:26am |
re: #264 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
re: #258 reine.de.tout
Saw the John Wayne version the other night in preparation. Honestly, his Oscar for his portrayal was a lifetime achievement award. He was in better movies where his acting was better.
Jeff Bridges' casting has me very jazzed.
Saw it with my daughter, who also recently saw the new Tron movie.
She was amazed that the guy in Tron was the same guy playing Rooster Cogburn in "True Grit". Mark of greatness, IMO.
267 | What, me worry? Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:27:40am |
re: #251 albusteve
everybody out here knows who Billy the Kid was...nobody claimed it was of any interest to outstaters...your buzzkill won't work
Ooof and I was trying so hard!
268 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:29:04am |
re: #266 reine.de.tout
Don't tell her, but he was mostly computer generated in Tron.
269 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:29:38am |
re: #244 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
No one ever gets my El Guapo jokes.
270 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:30:53am |
re: #268 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Don't tell her, but he was mostly computer generated in Tron.
LOL.
Oh, she knew that.
It was just that the parts are so very different, and I thought he was perfect as Rooster Cogburn.
271 | Mr Pancakes Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:31:00am |
273 | Mr Pancakes Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:32:23am |
274 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:33:27am |
re: #271 Mr Pancakes
Three Amigos?
They said in the article earlier that a Mexican teenager was caught smuggling bullets for his uncle to shoot into the air for New Years. I was asking if his uncle was El Guapo.
That was fucking hysterical and was left dingless.
I am going to be even more of a ding whore in 2011.
275 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:34:55am |
re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yes. It's possible.
276 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:35:09am |
re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They said in the article earlier that a Mexican teenager was caught smuggling bullets for his uncle to shoot into the air for New Years. I was asking if his uncle was El Guapo.
That was fucking hysterical and was left dingless.
I am going to be even more of a ding whore in 2011.
Hey, FBV - check your e mail.
277 | Dark_Falcon Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:35:45am |
re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They said in the article earlier that a Mexican teenager was caught smuggling bullets for his uncle to shoot into the air for New Years. I was asking if his uncle was El Guapo.
That was fucking hysterical and was left dingless.
I am going to be even more of a ding whore in 2011.
Here's your unding and your SMACK! Happy now?
278 | What, me worry? Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:35:51am |
re: #275 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yes. It's possible.
I just dinged up your last 5 posts only because I adore you that much.
279 | Mr Pancakes Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:36:03am |
re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They said in the article earlier that a Mexican teenager was caught smuggling bullets for his uncle to shoot into the air for New Years. I was asking if his uncle was El Guapo.
That was fucking hysterical and was left dingless.
I am going to be even more of a ding whore in 2011.
Ah.... gotcha...... I jumped in the thread late....... sounds like my wife's family in Tijuana also on New Years. "Let loose the pit bulls and shoot in the air!" Seems to be a family tradition.
280 | reine.de.tout Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:36:34am |
re: #278 marjoriemoon
I just dinged up your last 5 posts only because I adore you that much.
I'm updinging too.
But he sure is paltry with giving 'em out.
281 | What, me worry? Fri, Dec 31, 2010 10:37:52am |
re: #280 reine.de.tout
I'm updinging too.
But he sure is paltry with giving 'em out.
Oh yea! Good call there! lol