Egyptian strongman Hosni Mubarak is digging in his heels and trying to outlast the protesters, and today for the first time he called a meeting with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.
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rwmofo Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:35:48pm |
I realize most of you are commemorating the birthday of our greatest President today, but the absolutely gorgeous Natalie Cole is celebrating her birthday today as well.
What? You haven't heard of Natalie Cole? She's famous for singing Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds - of course.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:39:08pm |
re: #1 rwmofo
I realize most of you are commemorating the birthday of our greatest President today, but the absolutely gorgeous Natalie Cole is celebrating her birthday today as well.
What? You haven't heard of Natalie Cole? She's famous for singing Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds - of course.
I have heard of Natalie...she's Nat King Cole's daughter. Lovely woman, lovely voice.
Now, what does Mubarak hope he can get out of meeting with the MB?
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:39:19pm |
Didn't she appear with her dead father on a video or something?
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:40:22pm |
MBarak is just buying time. He also knows what a bogeyman the MB is to the west, he wants to scare them with the though that thery might assume power and turn Egypt into Iran on the Nile
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:41:50pm |
re: #4 ralphieboy
MBarak is just buying time. He also knows what a bogeyman the MB is to the west, he wants to scare them with the though that thery might assume power and turn Egypt into Iran on the Nile
"If it wasn't for us, you'd all be speaking Farsi!!"
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Tumulus11 Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:42:29pm |
. What part of 'Leave' does Mr. Mubarak not understand?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:43:39pm |
re: #6 Tumulus11
. What part of 'Leave' does Mr. Mubarak not understand?
The implied subject of 'you'.
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JAFO Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:44:49pm |
I wonder if Mubarak is Elevating the stature of the Muslim Brotherhood here for nefarious reasons. If they seem to be the forerunner in a future Egyptian government he stands a better chance of holding on to power.
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Eclectic Infidel Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:45:02pm |
re: #4 ralphieboy
MBarak is just buying time. He also knows what a bogeyman the MB is to the west, he wants to scare them with the though that thery might assume power and turn Egypt into Iran on the Nile
I don't think Mubarak is going to step down either. Ruling Egypt with the military is far too profitable, thanks in part to the U.S. Heh. This talk of revolution is just that, talk.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:45:25pm |
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Stanghazi Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:46:21pm |
re: #11 Sergey Romanov
Shouldn't that be "Our Glorious Leader Who Is Alive Forever"?
They're looking back wishing they'd Lenin'd him.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:46:42pm |
re: #12 Stanley Sea
ew. jes ew.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:49:23pm |
re: #11 Sergey Romanov
Shouldn't that be "Our Glorious Leader Who Is Alive Forever"?
The Tisroc (may he live forever!)
Seriously. Reagan was better than Washington, better than Lincoln, better than FDR? For real, for real?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:49:48pm |
re: #12 Stanley Sea
They're looking back wishing they'd Lenin'd him.
I really think it's time to bury Lenin.
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Stanghazi Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:51:29pm |
re: #15 SanFranciscoZionist
I really think it's time to bury Lenin.
One of the craziest things ever done is keep that body around.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:52:37pm |
re: #14 SanFranciscoZionist
Someone who sponsored Nicaraguan Einsatzgr Contras is not anywhere near even being a "good" president or human being. IMO. Jes' sayin'.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:52:44pm |
re: #16 Stanley Sea
One of the craziest things ever done is keep that body around.
OTOH, my father, old Cold Warrior that he was, was able to visit Russia in the early nineties, lean toward the glass, and mutter "I win, you lose, asshole."
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:53:26pm |
re: #15 SanFranciscoZionist
I really think it's time to bury Lenin.
The idea is regularly floated. More as a distraction than anything.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:54:25pm |
re: #18 SanFranciscoZionist
OTOH, my father, old Cold Warrior that he was, was able to visit Russia in the early nineties, lean toward the glass, and mutter "I win, you lose, asshole."
Well, since there is little precious left of real Lenin there... ;)
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:54:37pm |
re: #18 SanFranciscoZionist
Groucho Marx did an 'unsmiling Charleston' on the top of the bunker where Hitler died.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:55:13pm |
re: #17 Sergey Romanov
Like lots of politicians, he is simply a surface onto which conservative project their ideals of what True Conservatism should be, just as the left does with JFK/FDR.
The farther removed from reality, the cleaner the surface they have to work with.
.
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:55:14pm |
re: #14 SanFranciscoZionist
The Tisroc (may he live forever!)
Seriously. Reagan was better than Washington, better than Lincoln, better than FDR? For real, for real?
My understanding is that the belief that American liberals are the most evil of all enemies, responsible for all wickedness and barely even human, started during his time. Since this is the only tenet of the modern American Conservative, it makes sense that they would pay homage to their founding father.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:56:05pm |
re: #21 Obdicut
Groucho Marx did an 'unsmiling Charleston' on the top of the bunker where Hitler died.
My. I suppose it's too much to hope that's on film.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:58:48pm |
re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist
My. I suppose it's too much to hope that's on film.
No, but people have dedicated music to it...
[Link: 69.16.233.70...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:59:13pm |
re: #23 Renaissance_Man
My understanding is that the belief that American liberals are the most evil of all enemies, responsible for all wickedness and barely even human, started during his time. Since this is the only tenet of the modern American Conservative, it makes sense that they would pay homage to their founding father.
Oddly enough, Reagan himself was successful in part because he didn't have this hysterical edge that the modern RWRs display (that's Right Wing Radical). He was genial.
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Eclectic Infidel Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:59:34pm |
Just got this email (humor..sort of) on my activist list:
"Can one of you please get the following message to Egypt?
Please do not destroy the pyramids.
We will not rebuild them.
Signed
The Jews"
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:59:37pm |
re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist
Funny... earlier my daughter and I were discussing what we'd pay $200.00 to see. Yeah. I'd pay big bucks for that.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:00:42pm |
re: #27 eclectic infidel
Funny as hell, and terrifying.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:02:25pm |
re: #27 eclectic infidel
Just got this email (humor..sort of) on my activist list:
"Can one of you please get the following message to Egypt?
Please do not destroy the pyramids.
We will not rebuild them.Signed
The Jews"
Because you will be in captivity in Babylon building Ziggurats?
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:06:20pm |
re: #26 SanFranciscoZionist
Oddly enough, Reagan himself was successful in part because he didn't have this hysterical edge that the modern RWRs display (that's Right Wing Radical). He was genial.
He was indeed, but he did solidify the enemy in the minds of the flock. The enemy was them - those liberals, the gubmint, and so it was patriotic and right to stick it to your gubmint every chance you got. And if you were really patriotic, you'd stick up for the wealthy, and make sure they got as much of the government's money as they could, because if they fleeced taxpayers, that was proof that the government was bad, and they were awesome.
I personally doubt that America will ever recover from the paradigm shift of complete fiscal irresponsibility and supply-side economics that his presidency wrought.
It did win the Cold War, though.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:09:29pm |
The Soviet Union was ready to collapse economically in the early 70's, then the oil crisi intervened and they were able to buoy up their economy for another decade or so. The arms race that Reagan instituted just speeded up the process.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:10:28pm |
Mildly off topic, put I was reading the comments on the Gawker thread related to the wedding at the protest. This awesome comment came up.
Now that's how you get tanked at a Muslim wedding while remaining halal!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:13:21pm |
re: #1 rwmofo
I realize most of you are commemorating the birthday of our greatest President today, but the absolutely gorgeous Natalie Cole is celebrating her birthday today as well.
What? You haven't heard of Natalie Cole? She's famous for singing Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds - of course.
hahaha greatest at what?
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Stanghazi Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:13:30pm |
Sandmonkey Sandmonkey
Guys, CodePink people contacted me & said they only collected money once 2send flowers 2 Tahrir & won't engage in other fundraising #jan25
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:15:06pm |
re: #23 Renaissance_Man
My understanding is that the belief that American liberals are the most evil of all enemies, responsible for all wickedness and barely even human, started during his time. Since this is the only tenet of the modern American Conservative, it makes sense that they would pay homage to their founding father.
It was Reagan who brought the religious right on board as a reliable GOP voting bloc. In fact, he almost created it from a howling mob of televangelists and cranky ideologues.
I commented on this at some length last August. This is also a pretty good exposition of where I am coming from here (it was also my highest rated LGF comment).
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:15:15pm |
re: #11 Sergey Romanov
Shouldn't that be "Our Glorious Leader Who Is Alive Forever"?
Our exalted and Beyond Reproach Sun God Lord Jesus Pharoah-Prophet Ronald The Astral Traveller Reagan
Because all the other modern Republican presidents didn't do so hot :D
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:17:18pm |
Back to topic...I think Mubarak is now seeing if he can stay in power by giving some concessions to dissident groups.
I have no idea if this might work or not.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:17:35pm |
re: #38 Shiplord Kirel
It was Reagan who brought the religious right on board as a reliable GOP voting bloc. In fact, he almost created it from a howling mob of televangelists and cranky ideologues.
I commented on this at some length last August. This is also a pretty good exposition of where I am coming from here (it was also my highest rated LGF comment).
He's our greatest president for getting a bunch of bigoted, superstitious morons to become an incredibly powerful voting bloc!
Thanks for that, Reagan! Thanks for empowering scumbags!
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:17:49pm |
re: #38 Shiplord Kirel
It was Reagan who brought the religious right on board as a reliable GOP voting bloc. In fact, he almost created it from a howling mob of televangelists and cranky ideologues.
I commented on this at some length last August. This is also a pretty good exposition of where I am coming from here (it was also my highest rated LGF comment).
Yes, that post is totally accurate and deserves every one of its dings.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:19:11pm |
re: #38 Shiplord Kirel
I love the phrase "howling mob of televangelists"
because I'm imagining a horde of guys with fake preacher hair, cornflower blue suits and big grins, just SCREAMING
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:19:13pm |
re: #38 Shiplord Kirel
It was Reagan who brought the religious right on board as a reliable GOP voting bloc. In fact, he almost created it from a howling mob of televangelists and cranky ideologues.
He created them but then abandoned them as soon as Nancy's personal astrologer told her the stars were propitious.
But like a woman scorned, the Religious Right set about to seek revenge, and in order to make sure they would not be jilted again, they began insinuating their people into all levels of politics, government and administration.
We see their hand in the Texas Schoolboard, various state legislatures and in foisting Sarah Palin on McCain in 2008 as a quid pro quo for their support.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:20:01pm |
Listen to the little anecdote Reagan tells here and tell me he was not a sick fuck.
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Alexzander Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:21:55pm |
This article claims that several senior members of Anonymous who helped take down websites in the US as well as government sites of Tunisia and Egypt are going to be identified soon, and face possible 10 year sentences.
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austin_blue Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:21:55pm |
re: #44 ralphieboy
He created them but then abandoned them as soon as Nancy's personal astrologer told her the stars were propitious.
But like a woman scorned, the Religious Right set about to seek revenge, and in order to make sure they would not be jilted again, they began insinuating their people into all levels of politics, government and administration.
We see their hand in the Texas Schoolboard, various state legislatures and in foisting Sarah Palin on McCain in 2008 as a quid pro quo for their support.
Good points, all.
Afternoon Lizardi, on this most propitious day for Ad Men everywhere!
Will their 30-seconds mean fame, or infamy?
Oh, and there will also be a football game...
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:23:18pm |
re: #46 Alexzander
This article claims that several senior members of Anonymous who helped take down websites in the US as well as government sites of Tunisia and Egypt are going to be identified soon, and face possible 10 year sentences.
10 year sentence for a teenage nerd = probably a whole lot less than that
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:23:40pm |
re: #45 Sergey Romanov
Listen to the little anecdote Reagan tells here and tell me he was not a sick fuck.
[Video]
Better kids die now but believers than in a natural way but atheists. How is that not Talibanic?
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Amory Blaine Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:24:07pm |
Is it possible that a grassroots movement, combined with Mubareks word, could result in a peaceful transfer of power at the prescribed date in September?
There seems to be a lot of risk of nefarious groups seizing power amidst chaos. A powerful grassroots organization could maintain hard pressure on Mubarek with his self capitulation, paving the way for the type of candidates that the people seem to want, rather than people who are willing to seize power in a vacuum.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:24:38pm |
re: #45 Sergey Romanov
I had a low opinion o him to begin with. All of the (now former) Republicans in my family were Eisenhower types who have voted democratic in Presidential Election since at least 1992. They openly told me that them voting for Reagan was amistake, and that he is the one who started this country into debt. They liked Clinton, of course.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:24:57pm |
re: #46 Alexzander
I have a theory that the same sorts of people who are Anonymous are the same sorts of kids who were in years past, "raised by television"
If you're "raised by the internet" you end up in Anonymous, because you're socializing with these other scriptkiddie types and you forget there's consequences
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:26:29pm |
[Link: friendlyatheist.com...]
As the meeting ended, Reagan became even more direct and personal. He noted that his own son Ron did not believe in God either. “The President concluded that there was one thing he had long yearned to do for his atheist son. He wanted to serve his son the perfect gourmet dinner, to have him enjoy the meal, and then to ask him if he believed there was a cook.”
Of the two American notetakers who were present for this extraordinary conversation, one took Reagan’s effort at face value. “Reagan thought he could convert Gorbachev, or make him see the light,” said Rudolf Perina, who was then the director of Soviet affairs on the National Security Council in a 2005 interview.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:26:34pm |
re: #49 Sergey Romanov
Better kids die now but believers than in a natural way but atheists. How is that not Talibanic?
I can just see his speechwriters hand crafting every line to appeal to slowminded and superstitious people who believe in gods and devils and hell and heaven
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:28:19pm |
re: #54 WindUpBird
Uh, that came out as if you're saying that about religious people in general. And I'm not going with that.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:28:19pm |
re: #53 Sergey Romanov
herp de derp, believe in magic men who run the universe otherwise yer a commie!!!
People are just such hilariously dumb animals, it's amazing this athiest/commie nonsense worked on us, but it sure seems to have
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austin_blue Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:29:34pm |
re: #50 Amory Blaine
Is it possible that a grassroots movement, combined with Mubareks word, could result in a peaceful transfer of power at the prescribed date in September?
There seems to be a lot of risk of nefarious groups seizing power amidst chaos. A powerful grassroots organization could maintain hard pressure on Mubarek with his self capitulation, paving the way for the type of candidates that the people seem to want, rather than people who are willing to seize power in a vacuum.
I would be damned worried if I was running the Egyptian Army. If I was Mubarek, I'd be raiding the bank accounts before I was forced out. When he leaves, he will leave rich and the Army, and the country, much poorer. They need to get some accountants tracing money transfers now and getting him gone quickly.
My $.02. Which is probably what it's worth.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:29:48pm |
re: #55 Sergey Romanov
Uh, that came out as if you're saying that about religious people in general. And I'm not going with that.
no, I'm not either!
I'm referring to the Religious Right. Capitalized, because we all know what that means. FOTF, AFA, Robertson, that fatass, whatshis name who blamed 9.11 on Lesbians. Hagee, all the usual suspects. Bigots, refuse, garbage
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:30:41pm |
re: #59 WindUpBird
Yeah, I got what you're saying, but the way you said it can be interpreted very wrongly.
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recusancy Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:31:04pm |
re: #1 rwmofo
It's also Tom Brokaw, Bob Marley, Axl Rose, and Rick Astly's brithday.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:32:12pm |
re: #59 WindUpBird
Falwell! That guy
yes, my parents are methodist, my best friend is presbyterian, my sister in law is Catholic, I worked 15 years for a Lutheran health care organization. don't worry, I'm not trashing religion, I'm trashing people in power who use it as a tool to turn loyal Americans into a hated enemy
Which is what Reagan did, he took loyal athiest americans and he told Americanthey were shit. I'm not a fan of that guy or what he did to America
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:32:22pm |
re: #61 recusancy
It's also Tom Brokaw, Bob Marley, Axl Rose, and Rick Astly's brithday.
Axl Rose and Reagan!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:32:46pm |
re: #60 Sergey Romanov
Yeah, I got what you're saying, but the way you said it can be interpreted very wrongly.
I'm used to that :D
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austin_blue Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:33:26pm |
re: #61 recusancy
It's also Tom Brokaw, Bob Marley, Axl Rose, and Rick Astly's brithday.
Bob's getting his 30-year pin this May..
;->)
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Henchman 25 Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:33:39pm |
To me, there are two Ronald Reagans. The first is our 40th President Ronald Reagan, and the second is the fantasy superhero of the wingnuts, Saint Ronald of Reagan.
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Varek Raith Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:33:40pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:34:13pm |
[Link: www.positiveatheism.org...]
The truth is, politics and morality are inseparable. And as morality's foundation is religion, religion and politics are necessarily related. We need religion as a guide. We need it because we are imperfect.
-- Ronald Reagan, at an ecumenical prayer breakfast in Dallas on August 23, 1984, in "Quotable: Where Reagan and Religion Intersect" (Dallas Morning News: June 11, 2004)
God, the source of all knowledge, should never have been expelled from our children's classrooms.
-- Ronald Reagan, address, National Religious Broadcasters, Washington, DC (January, 1984), quoted from Menendez and Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious Freedom
Well, it's a theory, it is a scientific theory only, and it has in recent years been challenged in the world of science and is not yet believed in the scientific community to be as infallible as it once was believed. But if it was going to be taught in the schools, then I think that also the biblical theory of creation, which is not a theory, but the biblical story of creation, should also be taught.
-- Ronald Reagan, during a press conference as US presidential candidate (1980), having been asked if he thought the theory of evolution should be taught in the public schools, in Science (1980, 209:1214), quoted from Tim Berra, Evolution and the Myth of Creationism, Chapter 5
For the first time ever, everything is in place for the Battle of Armageddon and the Second Coming of Christ.
-- Ronald Reagan, to James Mills regarding events in Libya (1971), quoted from "A Brief History of the Apocalypse"
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:34:21pm |
re: #67 SteelPH
To me, there are two Ronald Reagans. The first is our 40th President Ronald Reagan, and the second is the fantasy superhero of the wingnuts, Saint Ronald of Reagan.
The first guy? Iran contra!
The second guy? (file not found)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:34:57pm |
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:35:22pm |
re: #68 Varek Raith
What in the world was that? I haven't seen that before, so I'm curious.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:37:28pm |
re: #69 Sergey Romanov
Are there sound clips for the armageddon line? That'd make a great sample
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Gus Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:37:48pm |
re: #45 Sergey Romanov
Listen to the little anecdote Reagan tells here and tell me he was not a sick fuck.
[Video]
What an ignorant man. But, that's a typical point of view by a lot of Americans. Let's not forget that Reagan was the man that ushered in the religious right not only in the GOP but the American political landscape.
Let's also not forget how the Reagan administration dragged their feet about South Africa for years and refused to join the international community with regards to apartheid until the bitter end.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:37:48pm |
re: #71 WindUpBird
wow, I never knew he said some of this stuff
fucking psycho
And some far-lefties say Obama is to the right of Reagan. Nope.
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:38:28pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:38:55pm |
re: #75 Sergey Romanov
And some far-lefties say Obama is to the right of Reagan. Nope.
ahahahaha who says that? They must be having spot remover for breakfast
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recusancy Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:39:04pm |
Krauthammer: Global Warming Is A Religion I guess this is what passes for intellectual and moderate on the right these days.
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Henchman 25 Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:40:12pm |
re: #78 recusancy
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:40:22pm |
re: #16 Stanley Sea
One of the craziest things ever done is keep that body around.
Not very original, either:
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wee fury Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:41:38pm |
Many tributes to deceased President Ronald Reagan today.
OK.
Need to get settled in for the Super Bowl. Hooray Packers!
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:43:12pm |
If Mubarak really wanted to launch a crackdown, he should do it today during the Superbowl. Most Americans wouldn't even blink.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:43:26pm |
O'reilly and Obama up next on Fox..
Way to ruin the football day with politics...
I'll have thoughts in 5 minutes about this
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Gus Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:43:28pm |
The Reagan Legacy:
• Iran-Contra Affair
• Department of Housing and Urban Development grant rigging
• Jamies Watt, Secretary of Interior
• Lobbying scandal
• EPA scandals
• Inslaw Affair
• Savings & loan crisis
• Lyn Nofziger
• Michael Deaver
• Illegal use of Agriculture Department disaster funds
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:44:30pm |
re: #69 Sergey Romanov
It is also with Reagan that the overall decline in basic education set in:
Students no longer learn what a scientific theory is and how one develops, nor do they learn distinction between science and religion.
They are no longer taught the difference between critical history and mythology. They grow up thinking that the Bible is a science text book.
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Stanghazi Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:46:52pm |
JamesUrbaniak James Urbaniak
Giant Reagan head to appear in sky over Super Bowl, declare winner.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:46:52pm |
re: #85 ralphieboy
It is also with Reagan that the overall decline in basic education set in:
Students no longer learn what a scientific theory is and how one develops, nor do they learn distinction between science and religion.
They are no longer taught the difference between critical history and mythology. They grow up thinking that the Bible is a science text book.
I dunno, I think black people were getting a shitty deal in American education way before reagan ;-)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:47:05pm |
re: #86 Stanley Sea
JamesUrbaniak James Urbaniak
Giant Reagan head to appear in sky over Super Bowl, declare winner.
Like Zardoz
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recusancy Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:47:07pm |
re: #84 Gus 802
The Reagan Legacy:
• Iran-Contra Affair
• Department of Housing and Urban Development grant rigging
• Jamies Watt, Secretary of Interior
• Lobbying scandal
• EPA scandals
• Inslaw Affair
• Savings & loan crisis
• Lyn Nofziger
• Michael Deaver
• Illegal use of Agriculture Department disaster funds
• Mujahidin / Al Quaeda / Bin Laden
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:47:57pm |
re: #86 Stanley Sea
JamesUrbaniak James Urbaniak
Giant Reagan head to appear in sky over Super Bowl, declare winner.
this, but reagan
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austin_blue Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:48:52pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:48:59pm |
re: #89 recusancy
S&L crisis! Speaking of GROUNDHOG DAY
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:49:47pm |
re: #87 WindUpBird
I dunno, I think black people were getting a shitty deal in American education way before reagan ;-)
That's what I menat by the overall decline.
Funny, I went to school in Gary, Indiana in the 60's and 70's, and found the school system there was pretty exemplary. But from what I heard, it all went down rapidly from there.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:51:20pm |
re: #91 austin_blue
Man alive, that movie sucked.
Yeah, it blew, but it was also AWESOME
look at this list!
*flying giant stone head that shoots guns out of its mouth
*at a crowd of guys in hotpants and bandoliers
*sean connery in a wedding dress
*sean connery hurling a woman into a pile of straw
*sean connery being attacked by an angry mob of insane senior citizens
*sean connery falling through a pyramid made of mirrors
*people in a hippie circle psychically aging each other
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:51:40pm |
re: #95 Stanley Sea
IGNORING THE AIDS CRISIS
He saw it for what it was: God's punishment for homosexuality.
/
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RadicalModerate Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:52:14pm |
Bill O'Reilly's interview of Barack Obama is on the Super Bowl preview show now, and he's being a total dick toward the President.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:52:26pm |
re: #93 ralphieboy
That's what I menat by the overall decline.
Funny, I went to school in Gary, Indiana in the 60's and 70's, and found the school system there was pretty exemplary. But from what I heard, it all went down rapidly from there.
I had a great school experience, but I was lucky enough to be in an accelerated program in a suburb of Seattle with good funding :P And even then my parents had to fight like Foreman to get me in
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Eclectic Infidel Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:52:54pm |
re: #84 Gus 802
The Reagan Legacy:
• Iran-Contra Affair
• Department of Housing and Urban Development grant rigging
• Jamies Watt, Secretary of Interior
• Lobbying scandal
• EPA scandals
• Inslaw Affair
• Savings & loan crisis
• Lyn Nofziger
• Michael Deaver
• Illegal use of Agriculture Department disaster funds
What the U.S. did to the poor Nicaraguans via the Contras is morally shameful. The Sandinistas overthrew a brutal dictator and the result? Poor villagers were rounded up and murdered, raped, and terrorized, courtesy of the U.S. government. Vile stuff. A big FU to Reagan's memory.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:53:11pm |
re: #98 RadicalModerate
Bill O'Reilly's interview of Barack Obama is on the Super Bowl preview show now, and he's being a total dick toward the President.
of course he is, he's a dumbass
O'Reilly is simply the dumbest man with a major tv show
Find me somebody stupider!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:53:41pm |
But whatever I may say about Reagan, I will give credit where credit is due (even if those were just words):
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
In 1987, Reagan aide Paul Bremer, later George W. Bush's point man in Baghdad, even argued that terrorism suspects should be tried in civilian courts. "A major element of our strategy has been to delegitimize terrorists, to get society to see them for what they are - criminals - and to use democracy's most potent tool, the rule of law, against them," Bremer said. In 1988, Reagan signed the United Nations Convention Against Torture, which stated that torture could be used under "no exceptional circumstances, whatsoever."
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:53:49pm |
re: #101 WindUpBird
of course he is, he's a dumbass
O'Reilly is simply the dumbest man with a major tv show
Find me somebody stupider!
Joe Rogan.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:53:57pm |
re: #100 eclectic infidel
What the U.S. did to the poor Nicaraguans via the Contras is morally shameful. The Sandinistas overthrew a brutal dictator and the result? Poor villagers were rounded up and murdered, raped, and terrorized, courtesy of the U.S. government. Vile stuff. A big FU to Reagan's memory.
But but but he's a smily nice man!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:54:20pm |
re: #101 WindUpBird
I'm a rightie and I wish he'd stop interrupting the FUCKING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
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Gus Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:54:20pm |
Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein:
The U.S. Tilts toward Iraq, 1980-1984
The U.S. restored formal relations with Iraq in November 1984, but the U.S. had begun, several years earlier, to provide it with intelligence and military support (in secret and contrary to this country's official neutrality) in accordance with policy directives from President Ronald Reagan. These were prepared pursuant to his March 1982 National Security Study Memorandum (NSSM 4-82) asking for a review of U.S. policy toward the Middle East.
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lostlakehiker Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:54:35pm |
Mubarak, and Egypt, are in a bit of a fix. If he steps down forthwith, most sectors of society won't have any organization in place. That would place the MB nicely to win any elections, whether or not they have more than about 20% support.
If he promises to hold them later, allowing the rest of society to try to organize some parties and contest the election, who can trust that promise? Maybe he'd honor it, and maybe he'd take revenge in his own sweet time on the protesters.
If only there were some way for him to bind himself to the promise.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:54:38pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:55:31pm |
re: #105 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm a rightie and I wish he'd stop interrupting the FUCKING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
There's a point (and I got like this with Bush too) where people just start disrespecting the entire idea of a president at all
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:56:29pm |
re: #91 austin_blue
Man alive, that movie sucked.
Yeah, but it gave the world Sean Connery's most regrettable moment.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:56:39pm |
re: #69 Sergey Romanov
Thanks for posting this. People who know my background are sometimes surprised at my criticism of Reagan. Things like this are the reason. I had never heard the Armageddon quote but I was very familiar with the others.
The current deification of Reagan reminds me of something Kruschev said about Stalin's persistent admirers:
There are still some people who think that we have Stalin to thank for all our progress, who quake before Stalin's dirty underdrawers, who stand at attention and salute them.
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RadicalModerate Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:56:54pm |
O'Reilly just said to Obama's face that "you're just a big-government liberal who just wants to intrude on Americans' personal freedom".
Calling him a total dick was being kind.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:57:52pm |
re: #111 goddamnedfrank
Yeah, but it gave the world Sean Connery's most regrettable moment.
Oh come on dude
THIS: Image: zardoz_bride.jpg
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:58:37pm |
re: #112 Shiplord Kirel
Let's not get carried away: I think Reagan was a dick, but he was neither a dictator nor a mass murderer...
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Renaissance_Man Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:58:37pm |
re: #101 WindUpBird
of course he is, he's a dumbass
O'Reilly is simply the dumbest man with a major tv show
Find me somebody stupider!
Glenn Beck.
The biggest farce of his show is not the wild conspiracy theories. It's the fact that his audience considers him an intellectual. That to me is the single most amazing thing about the Conservative cult, even over and above the genuine Doublethink.
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Gus Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:59:13pm |
Oh. And for the lurkers here's one from Fox News:
Report: Reagan Gave Military Aid to Iraq
NEW YORK — The Reagan administration secretly gave Iraq vital tactical help despite knowing that Iraqi troops would use chemical warfare in its war against Iran, The New York Times reported Sunday.
Iraq's use of chemical weapons in that conflict, from 1981 to 1988, is now cited by the Bush administration as a reason to topple the regime of Saddam Hussein in Baghdad.
Senior military officers with direct knowledge of the American dealings with Iraq told the newspaper that the covert program was in full swing even though the Reagan administration's top brass were publicly blasting Baghdad for relying on poison gas, most notable on minority Kurds in March 1988. Among the loudest condemners was then-national security adviser Gen. Colin Powell, now secretary of state under Bush.
A spokesman for Powell called the latest allegations that the U.S. knowingly let Iraq use chemical weapons "dead wrong," but would not further discuss it. Other senior military officials from the period and the Defense Intelligence Agency declined to comment.
The new revelations are evidence that the United States was more deeply involved in the Iran-Iraq war than previously believed. The U.S. had taken a firm anti-Iran stance to protect oil-producing states nearby from Tehran's brand of Islamic zealotry, and it was long known that Washington gave Iraq intelligence assistance in the form of satellite reconnaissance.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:59:13pm |
re: #117 ralphieboy
Let's not get carried away: I think Reagan was a dick, but he was neither a dictator nor a mass murderer...
he's not a mass murderer, he is however responsible for what we have now GOP-wise
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Lidane Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:59:24pm |
Dear O'Reilly--
You're not interviewing some rapper. You're talking to the POTUS. Have some fucking respect.
No love,
Me
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:59:29pm |
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lostlakehiker Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:59:38pm |
re: #95 Stanley Sea
IGNORING THE AIDS CRISIS
And what was Reagan supposed to do? We had laws governing communicable diseases, but the Left was sufficiently powerful to make "nullification" a reality with respect to those.
The science that eventually led to treatments that have somewhat contained AIDS was then only a distant hope. With treatment impossible, and quarantine impossible for political reasons, AIDS was destined to spread. The rate at which it spread didn't change as presidents went in and out of office. The rate changed as science got a handle on the disease, and as the pool of those most likely to become infected began to hit saturation.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:59:39pm |
re: #118 Renaissance_Man
Glenn Beck.
The biggest farce of his show is not the wild conspiracy theories. It's the fact that his audience considers him an intellectual. That to me is the single most amazing thing about the Conservative cult, even over and above the genuine Doublethink.
actually, I TOTALLY DISAGREE
You're mistaken craven manipulation (Beck) for stupidity (O'Reilly)
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:59:41pm |
re: #116 WindUpBird
NSFW awesome Zardoz scene with Sean Connery looking creepy and amused.
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Alexzander Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:00:08pm |
Feel free to offer some good quotes from the interview! odd place for O'Reilly to try and place a harsh interview.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:00:44pm |
re: #113 RadicalModerate
O'Reilly just said to Obama's face that "you're just a big-government liberal who just wants to intrude on Americans' personal freedom".
Calling him a total dick was being kind.
I have a hard time sympathizing with Obama here because he knew what he bargained for. Duuuuh. Why would he want to further legitimize Loofahman by giving him an interview?
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Lidane Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:00:56pm |
re: #119 Stanley Sea
O'Reilly is such a dick.
It's a testament to Obama's character that he hasn't punched O'Reilly or called him out for being a dick yet.
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Henchman 25 Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:01:15pm |
re: #127 Alexzander
It's barely even an interview. It's just O'Reilly interrupting him and calling him names.
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:01:34pm |
re: #124 lostlakehiker
And what was Reagan supposed to do? We had laws governing communicable diseases, but the Left was sufficiently powerful to make "nullification" a reality with respect to those.
Fund research, acknowledge the disease, educate people about it. You know, like we do now.
The rate changed as science got a handle on the disease, and as the pool of those most likely to become infected began to hit saturation.
And as people became aware of it as a problem and adopted safer sex.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:01:50pm |
re: #117 ralphieboy
Let's not get carried away: I think Reagan was a dick, but he was neither a dictator nor a mass murderer...
Did I say he was? What I am clearly equating is not the two men, but the mindless and forgetful attitudes of their admirers, especially the all-encompassing drive to credit them with all progress. I stand by that comparison.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:02:06pm |
O'Reilly: "I hope you think I'm fair to you, I try to be."
Obama just looked at him.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:02:13pm |
re: #126 Obdicut
is this before or after they go to "Second level" and age Friend? :D
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:02:15pm |
re: #117 ralphieboy
Not a mass-murderer but has a responsibility for mass murder.
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Stanghazi Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:02:18pm |
re: #127 Alexzander
Feel free to offer some good quotes from the interview! odd place for O'Reilly to try and place a harsh interview.
"How do you feel about the people that hate you?"
"I mean they really hate you"
Obama: "thick skin"
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:02:42pm |
re: #130 SteelPH
It's barely even an interview. It's just O'Reilly interrupting him and calling him names.
Hopefully someone will do a remix of it
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:03:36pm |
re: #128 Sergey Romanov
I have a hard time sympathizing with Obama here because he knew what he bargained for. Duuuh. Why would he want to further legitimize Loofahman by giving him an interview?
That actually occured to me
Maybe it's judo, if O'reilly looks enough like a dick, he looks like a child in front of a president
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:04:26pm |
re: #129 Lidane
It's a testament to Obama's character that he hasn't punched O'Reilly or called him out for being a dick yet.
Heh. Just a several days ago head of the Russian liberal-left part Yabloko was giving an interview to some guy apparently from pro-Putin org.
Here's what happened:
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albusteve Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:04:36pm |
BO knows football, BO watches the game, no more shmoozing after kickoff....
man, you gotta love that....he did okay, Bill O didn't push him around
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HoosierHoops Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:04:52pm |
re: #129 Lidane
It's a testament to Obama's character that he hasn't punched O'Reilly or called him out for being a dick yet.
Obama carried himself and did very well tonight...O'Rielly seemed to look to gotcha points and didn't look so good..
But that's nothing new
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Alexzander Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:04:53pm |
Do people watching "the interview" get the impression this might backfire for O'Reilly? Or will the wingnuts eat this up?
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:04:53pm |
re: #135 Sergey Romanov
Not a mass-murderer but has a responsibility for mass murder.
I just get touchy about making comparisons between truly evil, amoral mass murderers (Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao, etc) and people who were just mildly despicable (insert name here)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:05:12pm |
re: #124 lostlakehiker
And what was Reagan supposed to do? We had laws governing communicable diseases, but the Left was sufficiently powerful to make "nullification" a reality with respect to those.
The science that eventually led to treatments that have somewhat contained AIDS was then only a distant hope. With treatment impossible, and quarantine impossible for political reasons, AIDS was destined to spread. The rate at which it spread didn't change as presidents went in and out of office. The rate changed as science got a handle on the disease, and as the pool of those most likely to become infected began to hit saturation.
I'm glad you're not in charge, you seem to believe the president has no role in this?
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lostlakehiker Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:05:17pm |
re: #17 Sergey Romanov
Someone who sponsored Nicaraguan
EinsatzgrContras is not anywhere near even being a "good" president or human being. IMO. Jes' sayin'.
Communism is already responsible for 100 million murders. What's so terribly wrong about having put a bit of a lid on that score when it came to Nicaragua?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:05:40pm |
re: #138 WindUpBird
That actually occured to me
Maybe it's judo, if O'reilly looks enough like a dick, he looks like a child in front of a president
It's not Obama's duty to make Falafel look like a dick.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:05:53pm |
re: #142 Alexzander
Do people watching "the interview" get the impression this might backfire for O'Reilly? Or will the wingnuts eat this up?
it'll maybe be both
it may backfire to moderate republicans, but the wingnuts WILL eat it up
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Gus Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:06:18pm |
Ten days after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld wrote himself a note.
"At the right moment," it said, "we may want to give Saddam Hussein a way out for his family to live in comfort."
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RadicalModerate Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:06:20pm |
Of course, now we're going to see the right-wing blogosphere crowing that "O'Reilly totally owned Obama". Then again, interacting with the real world never has been their strong point.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:06:21pm |
re: #142 Alexzander
Do people watching "the interview" get the impression this might backfire for O'Reilly? Or will the wingnuts eat this up?
The wingnuts will think that BillO stuck it to Obama. People with more than two brain cells to rub together will see a childish, belligerent anchor who kept interrupting and talking over the POTUS trying to score cheap political points.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:06:37pm |
re: #146 Sergey Romanov
It's not Obama's duty to make Falafel look like a dick.
it's not his duty, but it could be strategy to take that interview knowing o'reilly will be a moron
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:06:39pm |
re: #143 ralphieboy
I get ya.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:06:52pm |
re: #141 HoosierHoops
Obama carried himself and did very well tonight...O'Rielly seemed to look to gotcha points and didn't look so good..
But that's nothing new
BO has thicker skin than some posters here....LOL!
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Tumulus11 Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:07:19pm |
O'Reilly: 'Will you be watching the game? Do you know football?'
Pres. Obama: 'I know football.'
O'Reilly: 'Cause I know you're a basketball guy.'
Obama: 'I know football. I know football. And I'll be watching the game.'
. Obama knows football.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:07:22pm |
re: #151 WindUpBird
Who arranged the interview? Couldn't they have said "no"? Fox News is not a legitimate news source anyway.
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:07:36pm |
re: #145 lostlakehiker
Communism is already responsible for 100 million murders. What's so terribly wrong about having put a bit of a lid on that score when it came to Nicaragua?
I'm sorry, did you seriously just ask what was wrong about funding right-wing death squads?
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:08:19pm |
re: #145 lostlakehiker
Fascism has also killed millions. The question was not a gloabal one, it referrred to Nicaragua. Your equivalencies are totally illogical and unfounded.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:08:26pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:08:31pm |
re: #155 Sergey Romanov
Who arranged the interview? Couldn't they have said "no"? Fox News is not a legitimate news source anyway.
I'm saying that Obama willingly took the interview, expecting this, and wanting to, by contrast, intentionally look like the better man
Like pro wrestling. If O'Reilly looks like a "heel", then Obama wins
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:09:10pm |
re: #156 Obdicut
I'm sorry, did you seriously just ask what was wrong about funding right-wing death squads?
he's all yours *_*
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Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:09:15pm |
re: #156 Obdicut
I'm sorry, did you seriously just ask what was wrong about funding right-wing death squads?
They were anti-Communist. That justifies any excesses on their part.
/
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:09:58pm |
re: #145 lostlakehiker
Communism is already responsible for 100 million murders. What's so terribly wrong about having put a bit of a lid on that score when it came to Nicaragua?
Because we're not entered in a fucking genocide Olympics.
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austin_blue Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:10:49pm |
re: #145 lostlakehiker
Communism is already responsible for 100 million murders. What's so terribly wrong about having put a bit of a lid on that score when it came to Nicaragua?
ReallY?
Really?!?
It was a democratically elected government, that's why. You don't form and fund an armed faction in another country because you don't like their election results. That's what the Bad Guys do.
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Gus Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:11:40pm |
re: #124 lostlakehiker
And what was Reagan supposed to do? We had laws governing communicable diseases, but the Left was sufficiently powerful to make "nullification" a reality with respect to those.
The science that eventually led to treatments that have somewhat contained AIDS was then only a distant hope. With treatment impossible, and quarantine impossible for political reasons, AIDS was destined to spread. The rate at which it spread didn't change as presidents went in and out of office. The rate changed as science got a handle on the disease, and as the pool of those most likely to become infected began to hit saturation.
It's pretty simple you know. The reason the Reagan administration ignored AIDs is because the tighty righties hate gays. Plain and simple. AIDs was considered a "gay disease" and they didn't give a crap because these holy rollers think homosexuality is an "abomination towards God". It is incumbent upon any president to lead the charge with the NIH and CDC to mitigate any outbreak of new or existing diseases. To that end, Reagan failed.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:12:16pm |
re: #153 albusteve
BO has thicker skin than some posters here...LOL!
There is nobody here that is the ruler of the free world...
You know what pissed me off? O'Reilly asked Obama if he knew what a blitz was...Our most athletic President of all time..Did he ask Bush about Football when he was on the couch choking on potato chips? I don't think so
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Lidane Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:13:28pm |
re: #156 Obdicut
I'm sorry, did you seriously just ask what was wrong about funding right-wing death squads?
Oh come on. It's not funding "death squads". It's funding freedom fighters. =P
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:14:04pm |
Sergey Dovlatov once quipped: "Next to Communists, I hate anti-Communists the most". Illogical, but has a certain historical sense.
PS: I'm an anti-Communist, if anyone wonders.
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Jaerik Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:14:54pm |
re: #9 mracb
I wonder if Mubarak is Elevating the stature of the Muslim Brotherhood here for nefarious reasons. If they seem to be the forerunner in a future Egyptian government he stands a better chance of holding on to power.
So far I just can't get myself afraid of the MB in Egypt. I deplore extremists of all stripes but every protest message I've seen so far has quite adamantly rejected the thought of a new theocratic government.
As recently as yesterday you had Christians shielding praying Muslims with their own bodies and vice versa, and I just don't see the rage nor the Ayatollah-like figure threatening to radicalize things.
The MB has already promised not to field a Presidential candidate or run in any parliamentary elections, citing the opinion of the West. And the only person they've endorsed, ElBaradei, is famously liberal on church-state issues.
Obviously, we'll have to see if they hold to that promise. But so far I just don't see reason to panic or assume worst-case-scenarios.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:15:28pm |
re: #165 HoosierHoops
There is nobody here that is the ruler of the free world...
You know what pissed me off? O'Reilly asked Obama if he knew what a blitz was...Our most athletic President of all time..Did he ask Bush about Football when he was on the couch choking on potato chips? I don't think so
blitz?....Bill must have been projecting, but BO picked it up easily...ha!
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:15:36pm |
re: #167 Sergey Romanov
Sergey Dovlatov once quipped: "Next to Communists, I hate anti-Communists the most". Illogical, but has a certain historical sense.
PS: I'm an anti-Communist, if anyone wonders.
I take it he didn't live through "Barbarosa".
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Gus Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:15:43pm |
re: #166 Lidane
Oh come on. It's not funding "death squads". It's funding freedom fighters. =P
Hey, don't you know? If you don't support death squads, er, I mean freedom fighters, that means you support the Communists!!11ty
//
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Sionainn Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:16:45pm |
re: #69 Sergey Romanov
[Link: www.positiveatheism.org...]
The truth is, politics and morality are inseparable. And as morality's foundation is religion, religion and politics are necessarily related. We need religion as a guide. We need it because we are imperfect.
-- Ronald Reagan, at an ecumenical prayer breakfast in Dallas on August 23, 1984, in "Quotable: Where Reagan and Religion Intersect" (Dallas Morning News: June 11, 2004)God, the source of all knowledge, should never have been expelled from our children's classrooms.
-- Ronald Reagan, address, National Religious Broadcasters, Washington, DC (January, 1984), quoted from Menendez and Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious FreedomWell, it's a theory, it is a scientific theory only, and it has in recent years been challenged in the world of science and is not yet believed in the scientific community to be as infallible as it once was believed. But if it was going to be taught in the schools, then I think that also the biblical theory of creation, which is not a theory, but the biblical story of creation, should also be taught.
-- Ronald Reagan, during a press conference as US presidential candidate (1980), having been asked if he thought the theory of evolution should be taught in the public schools, in Science (1980, 209:1214), quoted from Tim Berra, Evolution and the Myth of Creationism, Chapter 5For the first time ever, everything is in place for the Battle of Armageddon and the Second Coming of Christ.
-- Ronald Reagan, to James Mills regarding events in Libya (1971), quoted from "A Brief History of the Apocalypse"
Bleh. Can't stand sanctimonious assholes, even dead ones.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:17:29pm |
re: #170 Decatur Deb
Barbarossa? Was that when evil anti-Communists attacked evil Communists?
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:18:27pm |
re: #173 Sergey Romanov
Barbarossa? Was that when evil anti-Communists attacked evil Communists?
Evil can be scaled.
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lostlakehiker Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:18:30pm |
re: #78 recusancy
Krauthammer: Global Warming Is A Religion I guess this is what passes for intellectual and moderate on the right these days.
Krauthammer is criticizing Gore. And Gore does push the edge, saying things that, if not construed very carefully, seem to lay every last bad bit of weather at the doors of global warming.
The truth is that global warming is real, but even without it, we would still have had some of the heat waves we have. We would still have had some of the heavy snowfalls and rains we have. We would still have had hurricanes.
It's very difficult to make the case for global warming to an audience that knows nothing about statistics. You're stuck. You can be careful, restrained, and scientific, and say that various bad things figure to get more frequent, and have in fact already done so. Nobody will listen, because it just goes over their head. But you'll have the consolation of knowing you were right.
Or you can go with a more dramatic presentation, substituting for "become more frequent" the phrase "caused by". And then you'll garner an audience. But you open yourself, and everybody in your camp, to the charge that it's all lies. It's not exactly lying, to fudge the truth because the details are just so confusing and you're trying to get the main point across. But it isn't exactly honest either.
And so Krauthammer can score some debating points on Gore, at least with listeners who intuitively recognize that it just doesn't make sense that today's bad weather is "caused by" global warming. After all, weather has always been a mix of good and bad.
And the central point has been missed. What mix of good and bad? It is the mix that is changing.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:19:06pm |
re: #165 HoosierHoops
There is nobody here that is the ruler of the free world...
You know what pissed me off? O'Reilly asked Obama if he knew what a blitz was...Our most athletic President of all time..Did he ask Bush about Football when he was on the couch choking on potato chips? I don't think so
I'm almost surprised O'Reilly didn't deliberately toss a football way over his head and then claim muslims won't touch pigskin. He was pretty much that hostile.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:19:09pm |
re: #168 Jaerik
So far I just can't get myself afraid of the MB in Egypt. I deplore extremists of all stripes but every protest message I've seen so far has quite adamantly rejected the thought of a new theocratic government.
As recently as yesterday you had Christians shielding praying Muslims with their own bodies and vice versa, and I just don't see the rage nor the Ayatollah-like figure threatening to radicalize things.
Beyond that, there is a sizable non-Muslim population in Egypt, and the younger generations there are wary of extremism in general. The idea that our only options in Egypt are Mubarak or the MB is far too simplistic and ignores what the protesters are actually saying and doing.
BillO kept trying to fearmonger on the MB and it didn't work. That's not to say they're not a threat, but they're not at the forefront of what we're seeing in Egypt from the protesters at all.
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lostlakehiker Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:20:35pm |
re: #156 Obdicut
I'm sorry, did you seriously just ask what was wrong about funding right-wing death squads?
When death squads are at work, and murder is in the air, why stand aside and let the Communists carry the day? You perfectly well know that the death toll would have been radically higher had the Sandinistas won. In Greece, Churchill funded the anti-communist effort against Stalin's death squads. And this sort of fighting gets dirty.
So take it up with Churchill.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:20:38pm |
re: #175 lostlakehiker
Pfft. Krauthammer is a hack and has been for years.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:21:00pm |
re: #174 Decatur Deb
Evil can be scaled.
Let's not over-analyze a quip.
Let's just remember that anti-Communist rhetoric often serves as a cover for evil. Cf. early WACL.
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lostlakehiker Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:22:34pm |
re: #163 austin_blue
ReallY?
Really?!?
It was a democratically elected government, that's why. You don't form and fund an armed faction in another country because you don't like their election results. That's what the Bad Guys do.
When they held a REAL election, Violetta Chamorra won. (spelling may be off.)
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:22:53pm |
re: #180 Sergey Romanov
Let's not over-analyze a quip.
Let's just remember that anti-Communist rhetoric often serves as a cover for evil. Cf. early WACL.
Just seemed oddly reversed coming from someone with a Russian name. (Don't compute "WACL".)
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Gus Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:23:06pm |
This reminds me of the argument again Park51 when people would say "hey you can't build a church in Saudi Arabia." Ergo, if 100 million people died as a result of Communism (most of which died through starvation) what's a couple of 40,000 or more dead at the hand of, er, freedom fighters.
It's a lot more than that if you start adding things up. Over 100,000 where killed in East Timor. 60,000 plus through Operation Condor.
The important point here though isn't what the Communists did -- which was wrong and immoral. But what our leaders have done in the name of the USA which is supposed to be a free and open society. A democracy and a republic. Not a nation that operates in secret supporting clandestine operation that leads to the deaths of 100s of thousands of people in the long run.
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Sionainn Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:23:07pm |
re: #130 SteelPH
It's barely even an interview. It's just O'Reilly interrupting him and calling him names.
That's all O'Reilly knows how to do.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:23:27pm |
re: #147 WindUpBird
it'll maybe be both
it may backfire to moderate republicans, but the wingnuts WILL eat it up
Barak Obama is the President.
I'm not watching this interview, but people should always show respect at least to the office, by being respectful toward who holds the office.
O'Reilly is apparently not doing so.
I think you're right - there will be many turned off by his schtick.
Actually, there were lots of us who were turned off a looooong time ago, that "fair and balanced" bit, and O'Reilly's huge EGO. Ugh.
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:23:27pm |
re: #178 lostlakehiker
The Sandanistas did 'win', you idiot. They won free elections, and then lost free elections. What we did was fund paramilitary fuckers who looted, raped, and killed. The Sandanistas are still one of the main parties in Nicaruaga.
Do you just have no fucking clue what you're talking about, and that's why you're blithely blabbering about how it would have been worse if the Sandinistas won?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:24:42pm |
re: #182 Decatur Deb
Just seemed oddly reversed coming from someone with a Russian name. (Don't compute "WACL".)
[Link: www.searchlightmagazine.com...]
In 1974 the BLR became the British Chapter of the World Anti-Communist League (WACL) and administered the WACL’s then European regional section, the League for European Freedom. The WACL was filled with former Nazi collaborators, antisemites, Latin American death squad leaders and right-wing American congressmen. In 1984, after a change in the WACL leadership, the BLR was expelled for being too antisemitic.
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albusteve Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:25:24pm |
re: #184 Sionainn
That's all O'Reilly knows how to do.
so Bill stole all the attention?....hahaha!
waaaahhhh
waaaahhhh
good grief BO was just dandy....why not give him some credit for his part?
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:26:02pm |
re: #178 lostlakehiker
Dude, the 1984 elections were free and open and certified by international observers. The Sandanistas won. The commies won in a fair election.
The appropriate response to that is not to fund violent right-wing assholes who ambush aid workers.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:26:11pm |
re: #178 lostlakehiker
So take it up with Churchill.
Churchill is dead. So is Reagan. We should be looking at situations on the ground as they are now instead of just going back to what might have worked 25 or 70 years ago.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:26:46pm |
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sizzleRI Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:28:41pm |
re: #164 Gus 802
It's pretty simple you know. The reason the Reagan administration ignored AIDs is because the tighty righties hate gays. Plain and simple. AIDs was considered a "gay disease" and they didn't give a crap because these holy rollers think homosexuality is an "abomination towards God". It is incumbent upon any president to lead the charge with the NIH and CDC to mitigate any outbreak of new or existing diseases. To that end, Reagan failed.
This was it. It was a disease that killed people they didn't care about. Never mind that it could fucking spread. They chose not to test the blood supply because it only affected the queers and we all know how viruses are very particular like that.
When George Bush senior spoke to the World Health Organization as vice president every single doctor there stood up and turned their back on him because of how the Reagan administration dealt with the AIDS epidemic.
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Gus Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:32:05pm |
re: #178 lostlakehiker
When death squads are at work, and murder is in the air, why stand aside and let the Communists carry the day? You perfectly well know that the death toll would have been radically higher had the Sandinistas won. In Greece, Churchill funded the anti-communist effort against Stalin's death squads. And this sort of fighting gets dirty.
So take it up with Churchill.
Yes. Support them while they're fighting the Communists then ignore them when the Communists retreat. Afterwards you're left with the Mujahideen that they helped create filling up the void of mayhem. For what I ask. Do you think America really gave a shit about Nicaragua? Or was it just to stop Soviet expansionism? Look at all the help we're giving them now which is close to nothing. Looks at how the USA ignores Mexico in large part while it continues to self-destruct because of the drug loads. Glory, glory hallelujah, what has the USA done for Argentina recently?
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TedStriker Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:33:07pm |
re: #145 lostlakehiker
'Scuse me? Because it just sounded to me like you just more or less said, "to make an omelet, you gotta break a few eggs"...
GAZE
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:34:36pm |
re: #183 Gus 802
Not to mention that 100M number is bullshit. The real number is hard to count and is open to interpretation (e.g. how you count famines depends on whether you believe they were intentional (like many earlier authors believed) and thus murder or the result of cynicism, incompetence and lack of caring (like many authors believe now), akin to Reagan's involvement with the Contras) and is obviously enormous in any case (so this is not an attempt at minimization). 100M comes from the Black Book of Communism, and not from the bulk of the text but from an intro by one of the co-authors. Two other co-authors later publicly disassociated themselves from this estimate (offering their own - from 63 to 93 million).
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:36:13pm |
re: #187 Sergey Romanov
re: #191 Decatur Deb
Ahh. Was Sun Myung Moon involved?
Googled my own answer--Kuomintang spinoff with Moon holding the Korea franchise. Half the crazy crap in the universe that has "Liberty" in the title tracks back to Jerry Falwell. Half that with "World" involves Moon. The Koch brothers have been more poetic in their naming.
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Gus Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:36:13pm |
re: #189 Obdicut
Dude, the 1984 elections were free and open and certified by international observers. The Sandanistas won. The commies won in a fair election.
The appropriate response to that is not to fund violent right-wing assholes who ambush aid workers.
And nuns.
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Sionainn Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:36:33pm |
re: #188 albusteve
so Bill stole all the attention?...hahaha!
waaahhh
waaahhh
good grief BO was just dandy...why not give him some credit for his part?
I haven't seen the interview. I'm hoping it shows up on video soon. My comment was based on knowing O'Reilly's m.o. It's no surprise to me that Obama held his own. It cracks me up when I hear rightwingers going on about Obama's seething anger, etc., and then watch calm, cool Obama. Makes me wonder what planet they are living on.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:38:29pm |
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:40:45pm |
Sarah Palin's many admirers are already comparing their idol to Reagan:
Stupid Media Tricks: Obama is no Ronald Reagan (Texans for Palin):
Of all the stupid media tricks we've seen from the state-controlled, lamestream media, the attenpt to equate Obama with Ronald Reagan is perhaps the stupidest. If anything, Obama is the anti-Reagan.Every picture tells a story, as Rod Stewart used to sing. Is there any doubt which political figure below is Reaganesque and which is Kerryesque?
To a great extent I actually agree with this. Obama isn't Reagan, though I'm not enough of an Obama fan to call him the "anti-Reagan" (note the echo of "antichrist")./
As for Palin, there are some real points of equivalence. Besides ideological similarities, they both emerged from media backgrounds and had professional training in that area, both are highly photogenic and proficient in folksy sound-bites and cracker-barrel philosophy.
Reagan was much better at it, but with the general dumbing down of the electorate over the last 30 years, Palin might represent simply an updated version.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:41:40pm |
re: #198 Sionainn
It cracks me up when I hear rightwingers going on about Obama's seething anger, etc., and then watch calm, cool Obama. Makes me wonder what planet they are living on.
They project what they know on others.
Trying to turn Obama into a guy driven by anger is hilariously wrong. There's a reason that a photoshop of Obama as Spock went viral in 2008. The guy's a damned Zen master compared to the frothing loons who hate him so much.
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TedStriker Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:42:18pm |
re: #166 Lidane
Oh come on. It's not funding "death squads". It's funding freedom fighters. =P
It's like the old Carlin bit, "If firefighters fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight?"
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Lidane Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:42:45pm |
re: #201 Shiplord Kirel
I'm hardly a Reagan fangirl, but he was miles better than Palin. To start with, he actually finished the jobs he was elected to. =P
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BishopX Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:43:34pm |
re: #204 Lidane
And he was capable of speaking in complete sentences.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:50:10pm |
re: #203 talon_262
It's like the old Carlin bit, "If firefighters fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight?"
George Carlin was a big part of my teenage years and I love that bit:
[Link: vodpod.com...]
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Eclectic Infidel Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:51:58pm |
re: #145 lostlakehiker
Communism is already responsible for 100 million murders. What's so terribly wrong about having put a bit of a lid on that score when it came to Nicaragua?
Nicaragua was no threat - and they overthrew a brutal dictator.
The means by which the Contras waged war was despicable, if our soldiers behaved the way those monsters did, they'd have been locked up.
Why don't you do some research on the grievous human rights abuses carried out by the Contras. Don't take my word for it.
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Eclectic Infidel Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:53:17pm |
re: #178 lostlakehiker
When death squads are at work, and murder is in the air, why stand aside and let the Communists carry the day? You perfectly well know that the death toll would have been radically higher had the Sandinistas won. In Greece, Churchill funded the anti-communist effort against Stalin's death squads. And this sort of fighting gets dirty.
So take it up with Churchill.
Your ignorance is astounding.
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Lidane Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:54:40pm |
re: #209 eclectic infidel
Your ignorance is astounding.
Seriously. It's almost Palin-esque in its sheer idiocy.
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TedStriker Sun, Feb 6, 2011 2:57:09pm |
re: #208 eclectic infidel
Don't confuse the poor sod with facts, because there's omelets to be made...
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 3:01:30pm |
re: #211 talon_262
Don't confuse the poor sod with facts, because there's omelets to be made...
Or, as comrade Stalin used to say, "When the forest is cut, the chips fly".
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SilentAlfa Sun, Feb 6, 2011 3:12:00pm |
re: #178 lostlakehiker
When death squads are at work, and murder is in the air, why stand aside and let the Communists carry the day? You perfectly well know that the death toll would have been radically higher had the Sandinistas won. In Greece, Churchill funded the anti-communist effort against Stalin's death squads. And this sort of fighting gets dirty.
So take it up with Churchill.
i agree, sometimes the only way to prevent somebody else from rounding up hundreds of thousands of people for extermination is to do it yourself
don't know why people are downdinging this man he has got a handle on rational thinking
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Feb 6, 2011 3:16:23pm |
re: #213 SilentAlfa
Sarcasm, people, sarcasm.
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Obdicut Sun, Feb 6, 2011 3:19:00pm |
re: #213 SilentAlfa
We had to install a reign of terror because they were totally going to install a rein of terror. Dead nuns for freedom!
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right_wing2 Sun, Feb 6, 2011 4:28:24pm |
re: #14 SanFranciscoZionist
Reagan better than Washington & Lincoln? No. Better than FDR? Yes.
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I think it was Suleiman, not Mubarak, who called a meeting with members of the Muslim Brotherhood.
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