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1 CuriousLurker  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:50:39am

*Heads for kitchen to bake some martyr cookies…*

2 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:50:40am

Oh, it can’t be too soon.

3 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:50:48am

I support Gaddafi’s martyr death, especially at the hands of one of his fighter pilots.

4 Tumulus11  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:50:49am

. Moammar has been into the hallucination pills again. May his wish be granted swiftly.

5 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:51:41am

He’s pretty nutty but I don’t think he has the guts. I’m still betting he’ll flee with suitcases of cash and a couple dozen busty nurses.

6 Four More Tears  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:52:57am

I’m just waiting to see which spelling of his name they use on his tombstone.

7 Four More Tears  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:53:27am

re: #5 Killgore Trout

He’s pretty nutty but I don’t think he has the guts. I’m still betting he’ll flee with suitcases of cash and a couple dozen busty nurses.

Don’t forget his all-female unit of bodyguards.

8 jamesfirecat  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:53:41am

“That could probably be arranged.”

GTMA (thought I felt a little guilty for going for such an obvious riposte…)

9 albusteve  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:54:18am

re: #5 Killgore Trout

He’s pretty nutty but I don’t think he has the guts. I’m still betting he’ll flee with suitcases of cash and a couple dozen busty nurses.

which won’t do him a lot of good if he continues to slaughter his people….I didn’t think he was leaving the other day

10 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:55:37am

The first three words are sufficient. I don’t care about the rest.

11 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:55:48am

He’ll die in a rubber room living his delusion.

12 albusteve  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:56:34am

Saif al-Islam Gaddafi is no longer welcome among London’s bien pensants
[Link: blogs.telegraph.co.uk…]

son #2 hasn’t even killed anybody, yet his star seems to be falling

13 Four More Tears  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:57:03am

So when do we start hearing about how Obama has completely fucked up in regards to Libya?

14 General Nimrod Bodfish  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:57:36am

BBC News:

#
1755: EnoughGaddafi tweets:? “Families not allowed 2 retrieve bodies of killed family members unless they sign waiver saying their loved 1s died in surgery #libya #feb17
15 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:57:41am

Cleric calls for fatwa against Gadhafi

A cleric called for a fatwa Tuesday against embattled Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, saying fighting his citizens “is not heroism.”

Sheik Yusuf Qaradawi, head of the International Union for Muslim Scholars, issued a fatwa on live television, urging the Libyan army to kill Gadhafi, the Los Angeles Times reported.

“It is not heroism to fight your people and to hit them with missiles,” Qaradawi said on al-Jazeera.

“I say to my brothers and sons who are soldiers and officers in the Libyan Army to disobey when (the government) gives orders to kill the people using warplanes,” the cleric said. “I now issue a fatwa urging officers and soldiers who can to kill” Moammar Gadhafi.

16 Lidane  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:58:45am

re: #5 Killgore Trout

He’s pretty nutty but I don’t think he has the guts. I’m still betting he’ll flee with suitcases of cash and a couple dozen busty nurses.

Yeah, this. He doesn’t have the balls to actually die a martyr. He’ll just go to some tropical island with cash and chicks.

17 Lidane  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:59:19am

re: #13 JasonA

So when do we start hearing about how Obama has completely fucked up in regards to Libya?

Bill Kristol is already saying it. It’ll pick up on the right soon enough.

18 Martinsmithy  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:59:29am

Unlike some of the other deposed Arab leaders. Qaddafi probably isn’t welcome in a Saudi Arabian exile.

So he’ll go down fighting, unfortunately.

19 Four More Tears  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:59:52am

re: #17 Lidane

Bill Kristol is already saying it. It’ll pick up on the right soon enough.

Good. I was starting to get disappointed in the noise machine.

20 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:59:53am

So, the evil maniac wants to hang on to the bitter end, and bitter it will be, too. This is what we get for not “propping him up,” all these years. Every dictator we have “propped up” has left a lot more cleanly once the chips were down, at least recently.
The fact is, this moth-eaten cliche “prop up” is an intentionally vague weasel term that could be (and is) applied to any regime we haven’t actively tried to overthrow, and some we have.
Would-be activists also apply it indiscriminately to governments about which they know nothing, except that these governments are not actively hostile to the west. I recently heard a local lefty reflexively claim that US aid “propped up” the “right-wing government” of Brazil, for example. Hey, he’s heard it so often it must apply to everyone in the world, right? Two points: US aid to Brazil is roughly .02% of the GDP (1/5,000), and its government is not “right-wing” unless you are the Shining Path or some similar fossil Maoist gang.

21 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 9:59:55am

RT @SmithSofia: :( RT @Whatisupahead reports of youth being “snatched” from homes in Tripoli. #egypt #gaddafi #gaddaficrimes #feb 17 #syria
22 Lidane  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:00:50am

re: #19 JasonA

Good. I was starting to get disappointed in the noise machine.

They’ll start calling him a wimp for not nuking Libya and turning it into a parking lot soon enough. They just need to get their outrage going first.

23 albusteve  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:00:58am

and in Bahrain

In a nation of only a half a million citizens, the sheer size of the gathering was astonishing. The protest, organized by the Shiite opposition parties, began in the central Bahrain Mall, two miles from the square and seemed to fill the entire length of the highway between the two points.

Security forces were nowhere to be seen along the demonstration route.

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

24 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:01:31am
25 CuriousLurker  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:01:33am

“Brother” Gaddafi, dying as a martyr doesn’t mean what you think it means—the innocent people you have killed are the martyrs. Nonetheless, for the sake of your people may Allah grant your wish soon.

26 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:02:26am

We should send Muamar an emergency shipment of riot gas and police batons. That should finish him off.

28 BishopX  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:04:07am

re: #23 albusteve

Sweet. 20% of the population showed up for the protest.

29 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:05:06am

re: #14 commadore183

BBC News:

#
1755: EnoughGaddafi tweets:? “Families not allowed 2 retrieve bodies of killed family members unless they sign waiver saying their loved 1s died in surgery #libya #feb17

Can they say it was a surgical strike?

30 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:05:32am

There are reports that Khadafi is importing mercenaries and thugs from elsewhere in Africa and Europe to quell the insurrection against his regime, and that he doesn’t even trust his military (with good reason it turns out as they’ve sided with the people against his rule). He’s still got a core group of loyal thugs, but things are going to get a whole lot uglier in Libya because Khadafi is clearly not reality-based in his assessment of the situation.

He’s blaming drugs for the uprising, but what about all his diplomats overseas? They were drugged too? It looks like even his diplomats overseas can’t deal with the bat-shit craziness Khadafi has spawned here.

Hey… Ho…. Khadafi’s got to go… it’s got a nice ring to it… and from the reports - more and more Libyans are signing on to that sentiment as pretty much the rest of the country other than Tripoli is no longer answering to Khadafi.

31 albusteve  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:06:51am
32 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:08:01am

re: #31 albusteve

wow!…the smoking memo!
yawn

Heh.

33 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:08:41am
RT @ShababLibya: BREAKING: Helicopters circling Tripoli now. Gaddafi’s soldiers are armed with machine guns with ammo.#feb17 #libya #gaddaficrimes
34 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:10:23am

Just found this on the Atlantic:

Defected #Libya airforce captain to Aljazeera: Failed attempt on #Gaddafi’s life yesterday. … Officers who refused to follow orders were shot dead. … High ranking officers asked #Gaddafi to step down; replied he will give them “burnt land”. … Once again: Anyone can enter #Libya now from the #Egypt border, no visas or anything. Inform the media.

I would say that it is time for volunteers to enter Libya. Especially ones from the Egyptian Military.

35 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:11:24am

re: #13 JasonA

So when do we start hearing about how Obama has completely fucked up in regards to Libya?

Here ya’ go: Fever Swamp reaction to Obama’s message of condolence to the Libyan protesters.

What they lack in reasoning power, they make up in audacity and ingenuity.

36 General Nimrod Bodfish  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:11:49am

Between his use of the air force and navy to murder his own people and the hiring of mercenaries, Khadafi is desperate to remain in power by any means possible. It’s only a matter of time before he goes, the only question is how he leaves power: by plane or by body bag?

37 Tumulus11  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:12:34am
‘Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, speaking on Tuesday in a defiant but rambling speech, said he would call the people to “cleanse Libya house by house’ unless protesters on the streets surrendered.’
// Reuters.

. It’s time for someone to euthanize this madman.

38 Lidane  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:13:33am

re: #37 Tumulus11

. It’s time for someone to euthanize this madman.

I’m sure someone in his military will get a clean shot. A situation that volatile can’t hold forever. Something’s going to give.

39 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:13:47am

re: #37 Tumulus11

Somebody needs to attack Gaddafi, and prevent the use of the military to kill civilians. I don’t care who it is. Italy, Egypt, US, somebody must act.

40 Winny Spencer  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:13:48am

re: #27 recusancy

Here’s an example of some deep thinking that went on in the GWB administration.

I read Doug Feith’s book War and Decision. Excellent stuff, gives plenty of insight.

41 General Nimrod Bodfish  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:13:55am

BBC News:

#
1812: Greece says it has offered to evacuate 15,000 Chinese citizens by ship from Libya, and is considering requests from other countries to help ferry out their nationals, reports AP.
42 Lidane  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:14:44am

re: #35 Shiplord Kirel

Here ya’ go: Fever Swamp reaction to Obama’s message of condolence to the Libyan protesters.

I love how one of the first comments ties in birther nonsense to what’s going on in Libya. Priceless.

43 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:15:24am

re: #34 ProLifeLiberal

That’s a wholly unwise strategy - at a time when Egypt’s military is trying to restructure and reorganize the Egyptian government and economic situation, the last thing they’d want to do is get involved in an insurrection next door - it would turn an already bad situation worse - and give Libyans who might not have supported Khadafi before benefit of doubt that they’re dealing with outside forces imposing their way on the Libyan people. Seeing Egyptian forces entering Libya would feed into Khadafi’s delusional thinking that this is something being forced on Libya from the US and other outside elements and not something that was organically growing from within Libya after Libyans watched the revolutions next door in Tunisia and Egypt.

44 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:16:49am

re: #13 JasonA

So when do we start hearing about how Obama has completely fucked up in regards to Libya?

Good friggin’ grief, just saw this one:

Obama has a prior relationship with Moamar through his Kenyan family.


So now we have Obama’s Libyan policy, actual or otherwise, tied to birtherism.
There has been resurgence of Birtherism at Free Republic in recent weeks. A couple of years ago, it was almost laughed off the site. Now it is respectable, if not dominant, throughout the rightwing nut-o-sphere.

45 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:17:23am
46 albusteve  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:18:21am

At times the camera panned back to show a towering monument of a gold-colored fist crushing an American fighter jet, outside the building. But at the same time, the view gave a surreal image of the Libyan leader, shouting and waving his arms wildly all alone in a broken-down lobby with no audience, surrounded by broken tiles dangling from the ceiling, shattered conrete pillars and bare plumbing pipes.

[Link: www.chron.com…]

But he said protesters were gearing up to rally again after nightfall, likely to be confronted again by the militias. “Everyone intends for tonight to be the decisive night.”

47 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:18:52am
I haven’t heard this much talk of Libyans since “Back To The Future.” I certainly never expected revolution rumblings in Tripoli.

Heh.

48 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:19:02am

re: #43 lawhawk

What do we do then. This situation shouldn’t be allowed to stand. This monster is slaying his own people by the hundreds. He’s making Mubarak look like a saint.

49 Simply Sarah  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:21:35am

re: #48 ProLifeLiberal

What do we do then. This situation shouldn’t be allowed to stand. This monster is slaying his own people by the hundreds. He’s making Mubarak look like a saint.

I’m very, very torn on this whole situation. On the one hand, I can’t stand to see the things that are being done. On the other, though, I think it would, if possible, be best to let Libyans sort this out themselves, especially since things are so confused right now I’m not sure we could be entirely sure who to shoot and who to protect.

50 jc717  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:23:44am

Who are the opposition groups in Libya?
Who’s likely to gain power once Qaddafi is out?

51 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:24:09am

re: #27 recusancy

Here’s an example of some deep thinking that went on in the GWB administration.

They’re just a bunch of glorified Palins.

52 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:24:41am

Uggh…

RT @freelibyanyouth: From Janzour sirens, gunshots and army vehicles heading into #Tripoli. #Gadaffi has already started acting on his threats of burning #Libya.

RT @hectorcitox: RT @iyad_elbaghdadi: Reports now that bodies were picked up from the streets of #Tripoli and cremated; clean ups going on. #Libya

53 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:25:04am

Actually, the rumors that he went to Venezula were true. It’s just that he goes every 6 months for his Botox injections. The timing just sucked.

Pfffftttt…..

54 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:25:07am

re: #16 Lidane

Yeah, this. He doesn’t have the balls to actually die a martyr. He’ll just go to some tropical island with cash and chicks.

A martyr for what, anyway? A martyr to an upset mob of oppressed Libyans? Seriously.

55 Lidane  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:25:14am

re: #48 ProLifeLiberal

What do we do then. This situation shouldn’t be allowed to stand. This monster is slaying his own people by the hundreds. He’s making Mubarak look like a saint.

There are two BIG problems, though —

1. We’re already in the middle of two wars. Getting involved in a third — and make no mistake, attacking Libya would quickly escalate into a war — is a bad idea.

2. We can’t intervene, because that would just fuel Gadafi’s contention that these protests and uprisings are fueled by outsiders. The Libyan people have to fight this battle themselves.

56 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:25:29am

re: #25 CuriousLurker

“Brother” Gaddafi, dying as a martyr doesn’t mean what you think it means—the innocent people you have killed are the martyrs. Nonetheless, for the sake of your people may Allah grant your wish soon.

“Have a cookie!”

57 General Nimrod Bodfish  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:26:03am

re: #48 ProLifeLiberal

What do we do then. This situation shouldn’t be allowed to stand. This monster is slaying his own people by the hundreds. He’s making Mubarak look like a saint.

As much as it would suck, we just have to wait and hope that the people do depose Gaddafi. As lawhawk said, we go in now, we “confirm” his wild accusations and those that lukewarm to him would then flock to him.

But more than likely, we probably won’t have to do anything to him as his military would take him out soon. Hopefully.

58 What, me worry?  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:26:35am

re: #48 ProLifeLiberal

What do we do then. This situation shouldn’t be allowed to stand. This monster is slaying his own people by the hundreds. He’s making Mubarak look like a saint.

Just what about you makes you a liberal? I’d like to know, because I don’t think you’ve actually ever said one thing that a liberal would say.

59 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:26:48am

re: #55 Lidane

There are two BIG problems, though —

1. We’re already in the middle of two wars. Getting involved in a third — and make no mistake, attacking Libya would quickly escalate into a war — is a bad idea.

2. We can’t intervene, because that would just fuel Gadafi’s contention that these protests and uprisings are fueled by outsiders. The Libyan people have to fight this battle themselves.

Thus, the problem that arises when we look at history and say, “Never again!” is that it usually just ends up meaning we’re never going to bother to get involved again.

60 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:27:17am

re: #48 ProLifeLiberal

This is one of the toughest situations to deal with to date (in the list of countries dealing with uprisings/revolutions/bloody protests/riots) with all the uprisings through the region because of the high body count involved. Do we move against Khadafi, using human rights language like democide to justify action to stop Khadafi’s continued killing of protesters? An argument could be made to act, and with Libya’s own diplomats defecting and calling for action to oust Khadafi, there might be some grounds for an international intervention to stop further bloodshed even if it means accelerating/imposing an exile of Khadafi.

Much more likely though is that the Libyans have to overthrow Khadafi, and we should be there to help with reconstruction and further assistance. I would suspect that is the line that US/UN/EU diplomats are telling the Libyans right now - that this hasn’t risen to the level of UN action (other than strongly worded letters) despite the gruesome reports thus far.

61 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:27:58am

re: #27 recusancy

Here’s an example of some deep thinking that went on in the GWB administration.

That’s the kind of e-mail that lets you know you’re working over the weekend.

62 General Nimrod Bodfish  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:28:46am

BBC News:

#
1824: Ceasefire Magazine tweets: “Gaddafi has achieved the impossible: he made Mubarak look dignified and Ben Ali look like a genius #Gaddafi #17Feb #Libya
63 General Nimrod Bodfish  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:29:35am

BBC News:

#
1828: AFP reports Libya is banned from Arab League meetings.
64 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:30:38am
One of the Doctors who escaped from Tripoli yesterday says Gaddafi is suffering from Alzheimer’s
65 Lidane  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:30:54am

re: #59 negativ

Thus, the problem that arises when we look at history and say, “Never again!” is that it usually just ends up meaning we’re never going to bother to get involved again.

Considering that we failed to intervene in the Rwandan genocide, I’d say that’s true. However, in this case it comes down to the fact that we’re already in two wars in Muslim countries. Adding a third would be a bad idea, and it would change the situation on the ground in a bad way.

66 General Nimrod Bodfish  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:32:02am

BBC News:

#
1830: BBC Arabic has more eyewitnesses accounts of shooting breaking out across Tripoli.
67 Lidane  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:32:08am

re: #61 SanFranciscoZionist

That’s the kind of e-mail that lets you know you’re working 16 hours a day for the foreseeable future, including through your vacations, family occasions, and holidays.

FTFY

68 blueraven  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:32:31am

re: #55 Lidane

There are two BIG problems, though —

1. We’re already in the middle of two wars. Getting involved in a third — and make no mistake, attacking Libya would quickly escalate into a war — is a bad idea.

2. We can’t intervene, because that would just fuel Gadafi’s contention that these protests and uprisings are fueled by outsiders. The Libyan people have to fight this battle themselves.

I think the best we can do is help get aid to the Libyan people in the way of food and other essentials right now.

69 Lidane  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:33:57am

re: #68 blueraven

I think the best we can do is help get aid to the Libyan people in the way of food and other essentials right now.

Food, medical supplies, and humanitarian aid. We can’t even give a whiff of military aid at all, or Gaddafi will point to it as proof that Libya doesn’t want him out, and that it’s all America’s doing.

70 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:34:17am

re: #65 Lidane

Considering that we failed to intervene in the Rwandan genocide, I’d say that’s true.

Considering 1999 bombings, I would say that’s not true.

However, in this case it comes down to the fact that we’re already in two wars in Muslim countries. Adding a third would be a bad idea, and it would change the situation on the ground in a bad way.

Another reason to blame Bush&Co for Iraq. (I’m serious.)

71 CuriousLurker  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:35:02am

I’m not one to argue with the wisdom of the Sufis.

From Saadi:

STANZA.

Thou who art wise, fear him who feareth thee,
Though thou like him a hundred wouldst despise:
Seest thou not, how in last extremity,
The cat will lacerate the leopard’s eyes?
Hence, too, the snake the shepherd wounds; for he
Dreads the raised stone and down-crushed agonies.

[…]

DISTICHS.

All Adam’s race are members of one frame;
Since all, at first, from the same essence came.
When by hard fortune one limb is oppressed,
The other members lose their wonted rest:
If thou feel’st not for others’ misery,
A son of Adam is no name for thee.

STORY X .

A darwesh [dervish], whose prayers were accepted with God, made his appearance in Baghdad. They told this to Hajjaj bin Yusuf [7th century Governor of Iraq], who sent for him, and said, “offer up a good prayer for me.” The darwesh said, “O God! take away his life.” For God’s sake! asked he, what prayer is this?” He replied, “It is a good prayer for thee, and for all the Musalman.”

DISTICHS.

Oppressor! troubler of the poor!
How soon shall this thy mart* be o’er!
What good will empire be to thee?
Better thy death than tyranny.

*Death is compared to the closing of a market.

Gulistan of Sa’di, Chapter I: On the Manners of Kings

72 Winny Spencer  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:36:11am

re: #51 Sergey Romanov

They’re just a bunch of glorified Palins.

Arrant nonsense.

73 CuriousLurker  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:36:16am

re: #56 SanFranciscoZionist

“Have a cookie!”

Exactly.

74 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:39:02am

re: #72 Winny Spencer

Arrant nonsense.

At least you acknowledge that was an insult! ;)

75 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:42:06am

re: #58 marjoriemoon

I tend to be very liberal when it comes more issues than not. I generally believe we should become more Scandinavian in governmental practices, and have a larger social safety, and raise taxes so we do not have to borrow as much. The countries I want us to emulate the most, Sweden and Finland, have very low debt loads.

However, I do see the military as being a reasonable tool to stop these sorts of actions. Our wars in Bosnia and Kosovo are some the moments I’m most proud of in our history. So, right now, I come off as a war-monger, and I’ll admit it.

76 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:47:46am

So, Khadafi wants to die a martyr?

His proposal is… acceptable.

77 General Nimrod Bodfish  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:59:39am

BBC News:

#
1857: The BBC’s China editor Shirong Chen says: “China has decided to put forth the largest overseas evacuation in recent history to help stranded workers in Libya, on land, by air and by sea. Embassy officials from Cairo have been despatched to the border area.”
78 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 11:03:26am

So long, ya twit. You are not going to be missed.

79 Blizard  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 11:10:40am

One thing is for sure, he will die with no one knowing how to spell his name. Meh.

80 General Nimrod Bodfish  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 11:11:07am

BBC News:

#
1910: BBC’s Barbara Plett says the UN is expected to make a statement on Libya later. She says diplomats believe the crisis in Libya has a much greater potential impact on international peace and security than Egypt or Tunisia.
81 Petero1818  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 11:11:16am

From your mouth to Allah’s ears….

82 General Nimrod Bodfish  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 11:19:40am

BBC News:

#
1917: More from the BBC’s Jon Leyne in eastern Libya: This whole area, maybe even as much as half of the country, is under the control of the opposition. There’s not a big fear that Colonel Gaddafi is going to retake this area, it seems to have gone too far for that. The fear is how much havoc he will wreak in a last stand in Tripoli. He is retreating to an ever smaller circle.
83 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 11:21:41am

re: #79 Blizard

One thing is for sure, he will die with no one knowing how to spell his name. Meh.

It’s being transliterated, and there are these gutteral consonants in Arabic that aren’t really easily Romanized.

84 General Nimrod Bodfish  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 11:22:32am

BBC News:

#
1920: More detail from Angela Merkel giving her reaction to Col Gaddafi’s speech: “The news we’ve had from Libya yesterday and today is worrying and the speech by Colonel Gaddafi this afternoon was very, very frightening, especially because he virtually declared war on his own people. If the use of violence does not cease then Germany will exhaust every possibility to exert pressure and influence on Libya.”
85 General Nimrod Bodfish  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 11:23:45am

re: #83 SanFranciscoZionist

His name will probably be written in Arabic on his tombstone, provided that there will be one.

86 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 12:00:22pm

re: #63 commadore183

BBC News:

Why? Did brother Qaddafi fail to meet his quota for anti-Israel instigation?

87 sliv_the_eli  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 12:05:37pm

re: #80 commadore183

BBC News:

Ran this through the BBC-Translate function on Google, and it comes out as follows:
BBC’s Barbara Plett says the UN is expected to make a statement on Libya later. She says diplomats believe the crisis in Libya has a much greater potential impact on international peace and security than Egypt or Tunisia. Britain’s ability to profit from the deal they made to sell out the victims of Pan Am Flt #103 by pretending that the only person ever brought to justice for the crime was on his deathbed and returning him to his retirement in Libya.

88 S'latch  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 12:18:24pm

There probably is a connection between Muammar Gaddafi and LSD and it probably has nothing to do with these protesters.

89 palomino  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 1:31:08pm

Here’s to hoping the people of Libya make his prediction come true.

It would actually be better to try him in court for crimes against humanity, but that risks him fleeing and never being apprehended.

90 Bob Levin  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 2:06:45pm

re: #86 sliv_the_eli

A week before this happened he was urging all Palestinians to march on Israel.

For Qaddafi, most of reality takes place in his mind, only. We will remember him as the sadistic psychopath he is.

91 po8crg  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 3:36:25pm

There are real martyrs out there in Libya; people laying down their lives to free their country from a horrific dictatorship. Gadaffi may die, but he will never be truly a martyr to anything more than his own vaulting ambition.

Anyone else thinking that the reason he isn’t dead is because no-one can spell his name to put it on a bullet?

92 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 4:53:55pm

A link for Libya

uploads from Libya

93 yellow_gaigin  Tue, Feb 22, 2011 10:12:24pm

Someone has to stop “daffey” and his son from killing the Libyan people.

Obama is always on TV with his speeches, where is he now?


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