1 mr.fusion  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:46:54am

Brilliant

They really shot themselves in the foot with this one.

See, no one knew who Jeremiah Wright, or Shirley Sherrod was, or what ACORN did before the right went full on destroy mode. With Common and Jill Scott, they are well known. They have hundreds of thousands of fans. It’s obvious to anyone who’s plugged into pop culture even a little bit that these people aren’t radical cop-killing black panthers.

2 Iwouldprefernotto  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:50:05am

I love Jon Stewart as much as I hate Sarah Palin.

3 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:50:13am

re: #1 mr.fusion

Brilliant

They really shot themselves in the foot with this one.

See, no one knew who Jeremiah Wright, or Shirley Sherrod was, or what ACORN did before the right went full on destroy mode. With Common and Jill Scott, they are well known. They have hundreds of thousands of fans. It’s obvious to anyone who’s plugged into pop culture even a little bit that these people aren’t radical cop-killing black panthers.

Who said Common and Jill Scott are radical cop-killing black panthers. That’s stupid.

4 APox  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:52:58am

re: #3 Walter L. Newton

Who said Common and Jill Scott are radical cop-killing black panthers. That’s stupid.

Are you serious?

5 iossarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:53:42am

re: #4 APox

Are you serious?

I’m serious like cancer
When I say that rhythm is a dancer

6 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:54:25am

re: #4 APox

Are you serious?

You mean that’s not a stupid thing to say?

7 iossarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:55:09am

re: #6 Walter L. Newton

You mean that’s not a stupid thing to say?

Walter, did you even watch the clip?

Hannity: “That sounds like cop-killing to me. Does it sound like that to you?”

8 mr.fusion  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:00:20am

re: #3 Walter L. Newton

Who said Common and Jill Scott are radical cop-killing black panthers. That’s stupid.

Come on

9 APox  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:03:40am

As to the clip — I wish they had shown him do his rap it was pretty funny, that whole commentary was probably one of my all time favorites.

I wish more people would watch stuff like this to get some context in their lives beyond just watching Hannity every night. Ah well.

10 mr.fusion  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:06:01am

re: #9 APox


I wish more people would watch stuff like this to get some context in their lives beyond just watching Hannity every night. Ah well.

This will turn into another one of those truthless facts accepted by those with ODS.

This stimulus didn’t create a single job
Global Warming is a hoax
Obama went on an apology tour
Tax cuts for the wealthy on the shoulders of the middle class creates jobs
Voter fraud is taking place at an alarming rate
and on and on and on and on

11 tnguitarist  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:07:49am

re: #3 Walter L. Newton

Who said Common and Jill Scott are radical cop-killing black panthers. That’s stupid.

Hannity said Common was.

12 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:10:22am

Maybe the wingnuts would like to address this… it appears that Common is pro-life…

From now on,
I’ma use self-control instead of birth control
Cause 315 dollars ain’t worth your soul
315 dollars ain’t worth your soul
315 dollars ain’t worth it

(Retrospect For Life - [Link: www.songmeanings.net…] )

13 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:11:19am

re: #9 APox

This clip?

14 iossarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:13:52am

re: #12 Walter L. Newton

Maybe the wingnuts would like to address this… it appears that Common is pro-life…

If by that you mean he’s anti-abortion, I’d say you’re reading a lot into that song.

15 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:14:59am

re: #14 iossarian

If by that you mean he’s anti-abortion, I’d say you’re reading a lot into that song.

Then you translate it for me.

16 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:16:00am

re: #15 Walter L. Newton

Then you translate it for me.

Yeah, I’m with Walter on this one. That’s a pretty touching song. Maybe Hannity could read it on Fox news?

17 McSpiff  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:17:55am

re: #12 Walter L. Newton

Maybe the wingnuts would like to address this… it appears that Common is pro-life…

From now on,
I’ma use self-control instead of birth control
Cause 315 dollars ain’t worth your soul
315 dollars ain’t worth your soul
315 dollars ain’t worth it

(Retrospect For Life - [Link: www.songmeanings.net…] )

Not to get too deeply into my personal life on LGF, but believe me, you can agree with that and not be anti-choice. An abortion is not something I’d wish on any women, from what I’ve seen it can be one of the hardest things for someone to go through. Doesn’t always mean its not the right choice tho.

I’d love for nothing more than to live in a pro-choice world with 0 abortions.

18 iossarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:18:04am

re: #15 Walter L. Newton

Then you translate it for me.

Seems he’s pretty much saying that he regrets not having taken the chance to be a parent, instead wasting his time smoking dope.

I didn’t see him calling for the right to a safe abortion to be taken away, but maybe you can go further than my admittedly simple textual analysis?

19 Interesting Times  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:18:05am

re: #9 APox

I wish more people would watch stuff like this to get some context in their lives beyond just watching Hannity every night. Ah well.

The best part was when he showed Hannity calling white supremacist Ted Nugent a “friend of the show” and completely excusing his death threats against Obama and H. Clinton - thus exposing Hannity, once again, as a hypocritical pile of festering feces.

20 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:19:17am

re: #18 iossarian

Seems he’s pretty much saying that he regrets not having taken the chance to be a parent, instead wasting his time smoking dope.

I didn’t see him calling for the right to a safe abortion to be taken away, but maybe you can go further than my admittedly simple textual analysis?

You don’t have to be anti-abortion to be pro-life. I never even used the term anti-abortion. But, go ahead, speak for Common like you speak for me.

21 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:20:05am

John McCain: Abusive interrogation didn’t yield trail to Osama bin Laden

McCain, the top Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said he asked Panetta “for the facts. And I received the following information:

“The trail to Bin Laden did not begin with a disclosure from Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, who was waterboarded 183 times. We did not first learn from Khalid Shaikh Mohammed the real name of Bin Laden’s courier, or his alias, Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti – the man who ultimately enabled us to find Bin Laden. The first mention of the name Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti, as well as a description of him as an important member of Al Qaeda, came from a detainee held in another country.”

McCain added: “We did not learn Abu Ahmed’s real name or alias as a result of waterboarding or any ‘enhanced interrogation technique’ used on a detainee in U.S. custody. None of the three detainees who were waterboarded provided Abu Ahmed’s real name, his whereabouts, or an accurate description of his role in Al Qaeda.”

The senator continued: “In fact, not only did the use of ‘enhanced interrogation techniques’ on Khalid Shaikh Mohammed not provide us with key leads on Bin Laden’s courier, Abu Ahmed; it actually produced false and misleading information. Khalid Shaikh Mohammed specifically told his interrogators that Abu Ahmed had moved to Peshawar, got married, and ceased his role as an Al Qaeda facilitator – which was not true, as we now know. All we learned about Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti through the use of waterboarding and other ‘enhanced interrogation techniques’ against Khalid Shaikh Mohammed was the confirmation of the already known fact that the courier existed and used an alias.

The staff of the Senate Intelligence Committee told McCain, the senator said, “that, in fact, the best intelligence gained from a CIA detainee – information describing Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti’s real role in Al Qaeda and his true relationship to Osama bin Laden – was obtained through standard, noncoercive means, not through any ‘enhanced interrogation technique.’

“In short, it was not torture or cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment of detainees that got us the major leads that ultimately enabled our intelligence community to find Osama bin Laden.”

22 iossarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:20:17am

re: #17 McSpiff

I know what you’re saying and I think it’s a reasonable position.

That being said, part of the reason that abortion is a difficult thing for people to go through with is precisely because of social opprobrium. I personally have absolutely no problem with early-pregnancy abortion. I think it’s a necessary and entirely reasonable component of a holistic approach to family planning that includes sex education and easy access to contraception.

In other words, everything that the GOP is apparently opposed to.

23 iossarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:20:44am

re: #20 Walter L. Newton

You don’t have to be anti-abortion to be pro-life. I never even used the term anti-abortion. But, go ahead, speak for Common like you speak for me.

Y U PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH!!!

24 McSpiff  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:20:51am

re: #20 Walter L. Newton

You don’t have to be anti-abortion to be pro-life. I never even used the term anti-abortion. But, go ahead, speak for Common like you speak for me.

Well, you can use the word however you like, but it does have meaning.

Definitions of pro-life on the Web:

advocating full legal protection of embryos and fetuses (especially opposing the legalization of induced abortions)
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

The pro-life movement is a political and social movement focused chiefly around opposition to abortion, and support for the legal banning of elective abortion. Those involved in the movement generally maintain that human fetuses and embryos are persons, and therefore have a right to life. …
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Life

“Pro-Life” (also known as “John Carpenter’s Pro-Life”) is the fifth episode of the second season of Masters of Horror.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro-Life_(Masters_of_Horror_episode)

Of, pertaining to, or supportive of the right to life; believing that life should be protected from conception to natural death in almost all circumstances; Specifically opposed to the advocacy, practice, or legalization of abortion
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pro-life

25 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:21:40am

re: #24 McSpiff

Well, you can use the word however you like, but it does have meaning.

Scummy

26 recusancy  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:22:31am

It’s funny watching people (old, white) delve into the work of a very mainstream artist who they know absolutely nothing about and a culture they know absolutely nothing about. This is where the generation gap becomes very visible.

27 McSpiff  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:23:24am

re: #25 Walter L. Newton

Scummy

Scientia potentia est.

28 iossarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:23:43am

Pro-life doesn’t mean you’re anti-abortion, it just means you like babies.

WHO DOESN’T LIKE BABIES???

Therefore Obama is bad. Your honor, the prosecution rests!

29 mr.fusion  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:24:25am

re: #26 recusancy

It’s funny watching people (old, white) delve into the work of a very mainstream artist who they know absolutely nothing about and a culture they know absolutely nothing about. This is where the generation gap becomes very visible.

This certainly solidifies the perception that the GOP is strictly the party of old white curmudgeons.

30 recusancy  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:24:40am

re: #28 iossarian

Pro-life doesn’t mean you’re anti-abortion, it just means you like babies.

WHO DOESN’T LIKE BABIES???

Therefore Obama is bad. Your honor, the prosecution rests!

Meanwhile I loves me some abortion! Can’t get enough of it! ///

31 Lidane  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:25:13am

LOL Hannity. Keep taking things out of context, you douche. Common is awesome:

32 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:25:42am

re: #29 mr.fusion

This certainly solidifies the perception that the GOP is strictly the party of old white curmudgeons.

Correction… “the GOP is strictly the party of old white curmudgeons SCUM

33 Why I Never!  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:26:12am

re: #29 mr.fusion

This certainly solidifies the perception that the GOP is strictly the party of old white curmudgeons.

It’s not just a perception: Gallup Poll May 2009: GOP Losses Span Nearly All Demographic Groups

Guess which one they kept.

34 iossarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:26:38am

re: #33 iceweasel

It’s not just a perception: Gallup Poll May 2009: GOP Losses Span Nearly All Demographic Groups

Guess which one they kept.

Black one-legged lesbians?

35 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:26:47am

re: #3 Walter L. Newton

Who said Common and Jill Scott are radical cop-killing black panthers. That’s stupid.

Well, not in so many words, but still…

This punk has been shoving it in the face of decent Americans for over two years now. He smirks. He looks down his nose. He dismisses.

He thinks (and so far has been proven right) that a combination of good speaking skills, white guilt, black and Hispanic pay-offs and The Race Card will keep his poll numbers up.

So the gauntlet has been thrown down: “MY people will keep me in office, and F*CK the rest of you.”

…and if there is any doubt that (a) His Holiness and the First Bitch could give a crap about most Americans, check out their response to inviting a white-hating, assassination-promoting black rapper to the White House for a “poetry” event.

“Obama administration defends first lady’s decision to invite rapper Common to White House poetry event, saying that while Obama may not agree with all his lyrics, the president appreciates his efforts to get children into poetry.”

The guy called for Bush to be killed. He hates whites. He calls women “ho’s”.

You gonna let this racist creep Obama and his anti-white-American wife stay in the White House and look down their noses at YOU?

SERIOUSLY?

*NSFW or Braincells linkie thingie*
[Link: www.moonbattery.com…]
*NSFW or Braincells linkie thingie*

I have worse quotes, but posting them here would probably get me in trouble with Charles. Yes Walter, people egged on by FOX, by Rush, and the rest of the hate machine are calling them that, and even worse.

:(

36 Lidane  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:27:15am

re: #26 recusancy

It’s funny watching people (old, white) delve into the work of a very mainstream artist who they know absolutely nothing about and a culture they know absolutely nothing about. This is where the generation gap becomes very visible.

It’s less of a generation gap and more of a cultural one. Hannity’s not that old. He’s not even 50, which means he’s young enough to have grown up around rap and hip hop as it grew and developed. He just chose not to understand it, or even give it a chance.

37 iossarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:28:18am

re: #32 Walter L. Newton

Correction… “the GOP is strictly the party of old white curmudgeons SCUM

That projection must come in handy in the theatre business.

38 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:28:28am

re: #33 iceweasel

It’s not just a perception: Gallup Poll May 2009: GOP Losses Span Nearly All Demographic Groups

Guess which one they kept.

You know how polls lie…

39 McSpiff  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:28:33am

re: #22 iossarian

I know what you’re saying and I think it’s a reasonable position.

That being said, part of the reason that abortion is a difficult thing for people to go through with is precisely because of social opprobrium. I personally have absolutely no problem with early-pregnancy abortion. I think it’s a necessary and entirely reasonable component of a holistic approach to family planning that includes sex education and easy access to contraception.

In other words, everything that the GOP is apparently opposed to.

Well, abortion is one of those topics I generally avoid posting on because my views on it are entirely based on the experiences I’ve had in my life, not any sort of well reasoned opinions or research. I really don’t know what impact abortion has on the average women, how much of that impact is due to social factors, to what degree counseling helps, etc. My opinion is that it should always be a last resort type of thing. But thats merely my opinion, subject to change without notice, etc

40 recusancy  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:28:38am

re: #36 Lidane

It’s less of a generation gap and more of a cultural one. Hannity’s not that old. He’s not even 50, which means he’s young enough to have grown up around rap and hip hop as it grew and developed. He just chose not to understand it, or even give it a chance.

The gap I’m talking about starts around 35ish. It was around when he was young but it didn’t permeate every day life.

41 Why I Never!  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:29:14am

re: #34 iossarian

Black one-legged lesbians?

They lean left.

*rimshot*

42 Kragar (Antichrist )  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:30:02am

re: #41 iceweasel

They lean left.

*rimshot*

Quit making fun of Eileen.

43 funky chicken  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:31:27am

re: #7 iossarian

Walter, did you even watch the clip?

Hannity: “That sounds like cop-killing to me. Does it sound like that to you?”

Oh Good Lord. But don’t blame Walter for not knowing the depths of stupidity of Sean Hannity.

44 recusancy  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:32:11am

re: #43 funky chicken

Oh Good Lord. But don’t blame Walter for not knowing the depths of stupidity of Sean Hannity.

All he had to do was watch the clip before commenting on it.

45 Walter L. Newton  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:32:25am

re: #44 recusancy

All he had to do was watch the clip before commenting on it.

I did.

46 BongCrodny  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:34:55am

re: #21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

John McCain: Abusive interrogation didn’t yield trail to Osama bin Laden


This guy McCain, is he some sort of terrorist sympathizer or something?

47 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:36:40am

re: #26 recusancy

It’s funny watching people (old, white) delve into the work of a very mainstream artist who they know absolutely nothing about and a culture they know absolutely nothing about. This is where the generation gap becomes very visible.

Look up the evil, lewd, and demon controlled hip gyrations of Elvis some time, seriously…

48 recusancy  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:37:41am

re: #47 ausador

Look up the evil, lewd, and demon controlled hip gyrations of Elvis some time, seriously…

umm… ok.

49 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:38:34am

re: #46 BongCrodny

This guy McCain, is he some sort of terrorist sympathizer or something?

I think he has some really good reason to be sympathetic to people who have been tortured.

50 recusancy  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:41:31am

re: #49 EmmmieG

I think he has some really good reason to be sympathetic to people who have been tortured.

It’s not being sympathetic to people who have been tortured. It’s holding America to a high moral standard. We can’t be exceptional if we’re as low as the enemy.

51 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:46:00am

re: #48 recusancy

umm… ok.

Sorry, I guess that should have been “What they (as in ‘old,white’ people trying to explain the new “rock” culture) called the evil, lewd, and demon controlled hip gyrations of Elvis some time.”

/the way I wrote it originally sounds a bit fanatical and creepy, oops. ;)

52 recusancy  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:51:06am

re: #51 ausador

Sorry, I guess that should have been “What they (as in ‘old,white’ people trying to explain the new “rock” culture) called the evil, lewd, and demon controlled hip gyrations of Elvis some time.”

/the way I wrote it originally sounds a bit fanatical and creepy, oops. ;)

Oh, I thought you were telling me that the old white people DO understand hip hop and modern black cutlure because they had Elvis.

53 BongCrodny  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:54:58am

re: #50 recusancy

It’s not being sympathetic to people who have been tortured. It’s holding America to a high moral standard. We can’t be exceptional if we’re as low as the enemy.


Some sites were crowing over the rumors that “harsh interrogation” allegedly produced results in locating bin Laden. You read between the lines, and it was like they were advocating or even anticipating the use of torture 24-7.

I’m really lost over the idea that torture seems to be a good thing.

54 Lidane  Thu, May 12, 2011 11:21:04am

re: #40 recusancy

The gap I’m talking about starts around 35ish. It was around when he was young but it didn’t permeate every day life.

I’d say it starts around 40-ish. I’m 38 and grew up around rap and hip-hop because I’d hear it at school all the time.

55 sagehen  Thu, May 12, 2011 11:30:29am

Just ‘cause I want to jam it down their throats, have some Young Jeezy:

56 garhighway  Thu, May 12, 2011 2:18:25pm

re: #42 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Quit making fun of Eileen.

And Peg.


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