2 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:10:24pm |
Goes together great with this: [Link: www.thenation.com...]
3 | ProMayaLiberal Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:12:46pm |
OT, but something special is occurring in Bahrain.
4 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:13:19pm |
One problem with Europe is that college-educated professional women are the ones with the lowest birthrates.
They do not ever enter the workforce until their mid-20's and by the time they have established themselves in their careers, they do not have a lot of motivation to drop out and have babies, despite legally mandated three-year unpaid maternity leave.
5 | Kragar Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:16:21pm |
Birth control the old fashioned way, a cold loveless marriage.
Which reminds me of what was said over at Hot Air "It doesn't cost anything not to fornicate."
You got that married couples?
6 | ProMayaLiberal Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:16:51pm |
re: #4 ralphieboy
I'm pretty sure that maternity leave is shorter in Southern Europe.
In fact, the nations with the most safety net (Northern Europe), have basically replacement.
I see a lesson here.
7 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:17:44pm |
8 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:20:12pm |
Birth control plans from Breivik, courtesy of PZ Myers' digging:
1. Limit the distribution of birth-control pills (contraceptive pills): Discourage the use of and prevent liberal distribution of contraceptive pills or equivalent prevention methods. The goal should be to make it considerably more difficult to obtain. This alone should increase the fertility rate by 0,1 points but would degrade women's rights.
2. Reform sex education: Reform the current sex education in our school institutions. This may involve limiting it or at least delaying sex education to a later age and discourage casual sex. Sex should only be encouraged within the boundaries of marriage. This alone should increase the fertility rate by 0,1 points.
3. Making abortion illegal: A re-introduction of the ban on abortion should result in an increased fertility rate of approximately 0,1-0,2 points but would strip women of basic rights.
4. Women and education: Discourage women in general to strive for full time careers. This will involve certain sexist and discriminating policies but should increase the fertility rate by up to 0,1-0,2 points.
Women should not be encouraged by society/media to take anything above a bachelor's degree but should not be prevented from taking a master or PhD. Males on the other hand should obviously continue to be encouraged to take higher education - bachelor, master and PhD.
9 | Gus Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:22:31pm |
re: #8 000G
Birth control plans from
Breivik2012 Republican Party Platform, courtesy of PZ Myers' digging:
FTFY ;)
10 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:22:37pm |
12 | ProMayaLiberal Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:24:44pm |
re: #9 Gus 802
Time to tie the Republican Party to Breivik
13 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:25:23pm |
14 | teleskiguy Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:25:34pm |
Highly anecdotal, but:
My roommate got back from visiting his parents in Crested Butte on Tuesday, he'd been watching Fox News with his dad and came in and told me "Fuckin' government is paying for birth control!" I says "What's wrong with that?" and we got into this little spat about people being dependent or independent of government blah dee blah blah.
Anyhoo, my roommate really needs to see this video!
15 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:25:42pm |
re: #9 Gus 802
FTFY ;)
I didn't want to spell it out. But yeah…
OMG DEMOGRAPHIC WINTER MEANS WE NEED TO ENSLAVE EVERYBODY IN ORDER TO GUARANTEE SUSTAINED FREEDOM OF WHITE CHRISTIANS
16 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:25:49pm |
re: #8 000G
Birth control plans from Breivik, courtesy of PZ Myers' digging:
Nothing special, except that, frankly, he's somewhat special among the fuckwads promoting this shit in that he know that he's infringing on women's rights to achieve his goal.
Now, seeing as he's a mass murderer, I don't really need to be this fair, but that's actually kind of nice. At least he's not turning women into second-class citizens in the name of his race war AND pretending that they'll get loads of personal satisfaction out of it, and be much happier than they were when the feminists deluded them into having control over their bodies.
17 | Gus Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:26:12pm |
re: #12 ProLifeLiberal
Time to tie the Republican Party to Breivik
Only in jest. But what the heck. I'm sure we could find plenty of overlap.
18 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:26:23pm |
re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Which reminds me of what was said over at Hot Air "It doesn't cost anything not to fornicate."
What the anti-fornicators fail to acknowledge is that there are at least two other kinds of "sex" people can have that won't result in pregnancy. They are aware of them, but acknowledging them would ruin the anti-fornication meme.
19 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:26:37pm |
re: #12 ProLifeLiberal
Time to tie the Republican Party to Breivik
Only in the sense that some of the same people are influencing both, often through a couple of intermediaries.
20 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:27:06pm |
re: #16 SanFranciscoZionist
but that's actually kind of nice.
Make no mistake, you can find a lot of misogynistic stuff in his manifesto.
21 | Gus Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:27:14pm |
re: #15 000G
I didn't want to spell it out. But yeah…
Aha! You're evil sinister mind control plan worked!
//
22 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:28:35pm |
re: #18 Slumbering Behemoth
What the anti-fornicators fail to acknowledge is that there are at least two other kinds of "sex" people can have that won't result in pregnancy. They are aware of them, but acknowledging them would ruin the anti-fornication meme.
Anal intercourse was a fairly common form of birth control in Renaissance Europe. The preachers railed against it, and threatened--but with very little effect, it would seem.
23 | Gus Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:28:43pm |
re: #19 SanFranciscoZionist
Only in the sense that some of the same people are influencing both, often through a couple of intermediaries.
You're not going to find many Democrats reading Fjordman, Robert Spencer, or Pamela Geller that's for damn sure.
24 | Gus Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:29:06pm |
re: #21 Gus 802
Aha!
You'reYour evil sinister mind control plan worked!//
PIMF I hate stupid typos like that.
25 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:29:28pm |
re: #20 000G
Make no mistake, you can find a lot of misogynistic stuff in his manifesto.
Oh, I'm sure. Also, the good part is, he's in custody, and his fantasy world isn't going to come to pass.
26 | Jack Burton Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:30:17pm |
re: #9 Gus 802
FTFY ;)
Is the fact that birth-rates are decreasing almost everywhere, including traditionally Islamic countries, (and this is a *good* thing based on availability of resources) a completely alien concept to these people?
29 | Gus Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:31:31pm |
Note for the ignorant wingnut mouth breathing lurkers and my personal stalkers. No, I'm not saying the Republican Party had anything to do with motivating Breivik into carrying out his terrorist and murderous plans.
30 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:31:40pm |
re: #18 Slumbering Behemoth
What the anti-fornicators fail to acknowledge is that there are at least two other kinds of "sex" people can have that won't result in pregnancy. They are aware of them, but acknowledging them would ruin the anti-fornication meme.
In other words, this ain't about gov't spending, gov't health care, "fiscal conservatism", or women's reproductive rights. For them, it's about hating people for having sex in a way that does not fit their very narrow world view. Fucking for Fun is evil, and it must be opposed on every front.
31 | recusancy Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:32:35pm |
re: #29 Gus 802
Note for the ignorant wingnut mouth breathing lurkers and my personal stalkers. No, I'm not saying the Republican Party had anything to do with motivating Breivik into carrying out his terrorist and murderous plans.
But they are sympathetic to his view points.
32 | recusancy Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:33:02pm |
re: #31 recusancy
But they are sympathetic to his view points.
It's about the only thing their sympathetic towards. Well, that and rich people.
33 | Vicious Michigan Union Thug Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:33:06pm |
While everybody else is birth controlling themselves into extinction, my family will TAKE OVER THE WORLD! That's why my daughters are making babies and also going to graduate school!
Zionist Overlords rule.
BWAHAHA!
//
35 | Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:33:39pm |
re: #29 Gus 802
Note for the ignorant wingnut mouth breathing lurkers and my personal stalkers. No, I'm not saying the Republican Party had anything to do with motivating Breivik into carrying out his terrorist and murderous plans.
Blood Liable!
36 | Vicious Michigan Union Thug Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:34:06pm |
re: #29 Gus 802
Note for the ignorant wingnut mouth breathing lurkers and my personal stalkers. No, I'm not saying the Republican Party had anything to do with motivating Breivik into carrying out his terrorist and murderous plans.
I am getting these Twitter followers Gus_XXX (where XXX=some random number), I just block and report them for spam.
37 | BongCrodny Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:34:13pm |
re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Birth control the old fashioned way, a cold loveless marriage.
Which reminds me of what was said over at Hot Air "It doesn't cost anything not to fornicate."
You got that married couples?
I read a article recently that suggested that men who ejaculate frequently are less likely to contract prostate and/or testicular cancer than those who live a wank-free life, so it could be argued there's an implied cost in *not* ejaculating.
Those folks over at Hot Air -- are they ever right about anything?
38 | Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:34:51pm |
re: #33 Alouette
While everybody else is birth controlling themselves into extinction, my family will TAKE OVER THE WORLD! That's why my daughters are making babies and also going to graduate school!
Zionist Overlords rule.
BWAHAHA!
//
I, for one, welcome our Babushka overlord. If only because of the pies. /
39 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:35:01pm |
re: #26 ArchangelMichael
Is the fact that birth-rates are decreasing almost everywhere, including traditionally Islamic countries, (and this is a *good* thing based on availability of resources) a completely alien concept to these people?
For some reason, I'm recalling a scene in "Gorky Park", where Renko is listening to a radio program trying to encourage Russian women to have more children, and predicting a dark future in which the USSR will be 'starved of Russians'.
One nice thing about being an American--if we don't meet our replacement quota, you know what? More people will come from other places, and become Americans, and their kids will carry on!
(We really are the Borg.)
40 | SteveMcG Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:35:03pm |
41 | Gus Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:35:44pm |
re: #36 Alouette
I am getting these Twitter followers Gus_XXX (where XXX=some random number), I just block and report them for spam.
Good. Thanks. Yeah, they seem to be spawning. I live in their heads. Much like Charles.
42 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:35:53pm |
re: #30 Slumbering Behemoth
In other words, this ain't about gov't spending, gov't health care, "fiscal conservatism", or women's reproductive rights. For them, it's about hating people for having sex in a way that does not fit their very narrow world view. Fucking for Fun is evil, and it must be opposed on every front.
If Fucking for Fun is evil, why is fucking so much fun?
Have these folks considered this question?
43 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:36:02pm |
re: #36 Alouette
I am getting these Twitter followers Gus_XXX (where XXX=some random number), I just block and report them for spam.
They all want to be Gus. Their jealousy is blatantly obvious.
44 | Vicious Michigan Union Thug Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:36:51pm |
re: #38 Sergey Romanov
I, for one, welcome our Babushka overlord. If only because of the pies. /
We will keep the masses controlled and submissive with the pies.
Those who resist do not get the Key Lime Pie!
/
45 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:37:24pm |
re: #31 recusancy
But they are sympathetic to his view points.
I don't know as I would say that.
Now Pam, she's sympathetic to his view points. The GOP, I fear, is being damaged by some people who are.
46 | Gus Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:37:28pm |
re: #43 Slumbering Behemoth
They all want to be Gus. Their jealousy is blatantly obvious.
I'm like Easyrider to them. In more ways than one. Much like the Taliban, they can't handle my freedoms.
47 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:38:05pm |
re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist
If Fucking for Fun is evil, why is fucking so much fun?
Have these folks considered this question?
I'm gonna take a wild guess here and say that for them, fucking is either no fun, or a non-existent activity in their lives.
48 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:41:08pm |
re: #44 Alouette
We will keep the masses controlled and submissive with the pies.
Those who resist do not get the Key Lime Pie!
/
The Behemoth does not like Key Lime Pie. The Behemoth likes Tri-Tip. Your reign of oppression has failed before it has begun. I shall be forever free.
TRI-TIP!!! Shall be my battle cry.
49 | Gus Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:43:16pm |
re: #47 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm gonna take a wild guess here and say that for them, fucking is either no fun, or a non-existent activity in their lives.
My inclination would be to say the latter. However, I think there's a lot of personal self interest here in that they believe that this is living according to "the word of God" and if they don't follow those guidelines they're basically screwed when they die. It's sort of like Heaven Insurance™. Live this way and you'll definitely go to heaven and avoid hell. So it's not something they really want to do but do so out of fear.
50 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Aug 4, 2011 12:47:30pm |
re: #29 Gus 802
Note for the ignorant wingnut mouth breathing lurkers and my personal stalkers. No, I'm not saying the Republican Party had anything to do with motivating Breivik into carrying out his terrorist and murderous plans.
For me, this exercise in comparative ideology was not so much about the GOP but about the ultra-conservative, or rather: anti-liberal agenda they (and Breivik) follow.