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1 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 9:51:49pm

a different perspective than one's own nose?

2 brennant  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 9:53:42pm

I am not sure if this is downstairs but Trump drops Republican Party registration in NY.

3 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 9:54:31pm

re: #2 brennant

I am not sure if this is downstairs but Trump drops Republican Party registration in NY.

attention whore

4 jaunte  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 9:55:41pm

re: #2 brennant

Special Counsel Michael Cohen said Friday that Trump could enter the race if Republicans fail to nominate a candidate who can defeat President Barack Obama.

I just can't wait.

5 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:00:59pm

re: #2 brennant

I am not sure if this is downstairs but Trump drops Republican Party registration in NY.

And who announced this, again...

(What is the hair registered to vote as?)

6 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:08:57pm

Vikki Carr has one of the best voices I have ever heard ever.

7 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:09:24pm

Sometimes? On your toes is as far as you can see.

(Of course, not sure if I still have toes.)

8 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:19:24pm

Happy Christmas Eve, friends. You can officially stop worrying about everything Christmas related; and begin to enjoy the blessings. And for those of you who just can't let go of the burdens? Here's a virtual hug to you; from me. I hope that my hug is comforting. I'm soft, almost no muscle mass... no strings attached... from a friend...

(((You)))

(If this is offensive? I apologize.) (God Bless... heh)

9 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:20:17pm

re: #6 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Vikki Carr has one of the best voices I have ever heard ever.

Youtube Video

!!!

10 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:20:57pm

re: #8 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And a happy Christmas Eve to you as well!

11 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:22:18pm

Elvis Presley - Blue Christmas

Youtube Video
12 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:24:06pm

Hi gang. It's been a while since I've hung out in this neck of the woods. Been busy theologizing and all. Hope you're all are doing well, especially Charles. Be well, be blessed. Hope everyone is having a good holiday season.

13 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:28:44pm

It just hit me. My Twitter feed is almost completely negative. Fear central.

14 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:30:16pm

Republicans are going to send you to FEMA camps by way of the NDAA and SOPA! Run for the hills with massive butthurt and scariness!

15 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:30:22pm

re: #13 Gus 802

It just hit me. My Twitter feed is almost completely negative. Fear central.

What are the anxieties, today?

16 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:31:54pm

re: #13 Gus 802

Yeah. What's the fear du jour?

17 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:33:58pm

re: #15 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

What are the anxieties, today?

SOPA and NDAA. And some other chit. Who knows. They're all running scared about something or another. Some are more legitimate coming from Russia or Egypt. One guy worried about closing GITMO. Then another reflecting on his nephew. Some #FF stuff that I never seem to be a part of.

18 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:36:20pm

re: #14 Gus 802

Republicans are going to send you to FEMA camps by way of the NDAA and SOPA! Run for the hills with massive butthurt and scariness!

Don't forget Obama is torturing Bradley Manning, King of the Gays! Well, so says Dan Choi, and he oughtta know, since is the first and last gay to ever have lived!

e_e

19 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:38:49pm

re: #8 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The most offensive thing I can find about you is that you're not an omnivore.

Happy Christmas to you as well.

20 Kragarghazi  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:39:08pm

re: #8 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Happy Christmas Eve, friends. You can officially stop worrying about everything Christmas related; and begin to enjoy the blessings. And for those of you who just can't let go of the burdens? Here's a virtual hug to you; from me. I hope that my hug is comforting. I'm soft, almost no muscle mass... no strings attached... from a friend...

(((You)))

(If this is offensive? I apologize.) (God Bless... heh)

STOP OPPRESSING ME!

And have a good holiday as well.

21 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:39:09pm

re: #15 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

What are the anxieties, today?

Fear of Christmas Present?

22 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:39:36pm

re: #18 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Don't forget Obama is torturing Bradley Manning, King of the Gays! Well, so says Dan Choi, and he oughtta know, since is the first and last gay to ever have lived!

e_e

Dan Choi should be retired. He wasn't cut out for being in the army. Buy him out. Give him a 90K pension and tell him to go away.

23 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:41:03pm

It is strange how fear "sells" irrespective of ideology. It seems some personality types just need an apocalypse to obsess over. Not that real problems don't exist. but sheesh, people need to take a chill pill once in a while.

24 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:41:13pm

re: #14 Gus 802

Republicans are going to send you to FEMA camps by way of the NDAA and SOPA! Run for the hills with massive butthurt and scariness!

Bunch of drama queens, like teabaggers in that way. They both want to imagine they're brave truth-tellers, under threat from a fascist police state. If you dropped them into Tahir Square in Cairo and they had to face the Egyptian police (who, unlike the NYPD, really do practice Fascist Policing), the drama queens would piss their pants and cry for their mothers.

25 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:41:46pm

re: #14 Gus 802

Republicans are going to send you to FEMA camps by way of the NDAA and SOPA! Run for the hills with massive butthurt and scariness!

So that's the moonbat pulse. The wingnut pulse...

Something about homos and Jesus, right? With a dash of "Founding Fathers"?

26 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:43:52pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

Bunch of drama queens, like teabaggers in that way. They both want to imagine they're brave truth-tellers, under threat from a fascist police state. If you dropped them into Tahir Square in Cairo and they had to face the Egyptian police (who, unlike the NYPD, really do practice Fascist Policing), the drama queens would piss their pants and cry for their mothers.

That may lead them to burn their Gore-Tex before the cops! Some of the elders try and straighten them out. I think it kind of works. But they easily go astray. Run for them hills!

Too much Alex Jones. It's almost ingrained.

27 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:44:44pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

Bunch of drama queens, like teabaggers in that way. They both want to imagine they're brave truth-tellers, under threat from a fascist police state. If you dropped them into Tahir Square in Cairo and they had to face the Egyptian police (who, unlike the NYPD, really do practice Fascist Policing), the drama queens would piss their pants and cry for their mothers.

I agree with everything in here. I did not call today's lwnj screamers the Teaparty on the Left for nothin'.

I just CAN'T WAIT for the primary season, in which I will be educated by one of the leftybagger bus tours on why I should sit out the election, since Obama = Bush. //

Absurd.

28 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:44:51pm

re: #25 Slumbering Behemoth

Not the homo founders??? Anything but the homo founders!

(sorry, couldn't resist)

29 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:44:51pm

re: #23 Irenicum

It is strange how fear "sells" irrespective of ideology.

Not at all. Like sex, hunger, thirst, and so on... it has a universal appeal.

30 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:47:44pm

re: #29 Slumbering Behemoth

Yep. I said to a FB friend tonight how RP was deeply naive to subscribe to a rational choice notion of human behavior. Our instinctual impulses drive our behavior much more than we're comfortably willing to admit.

31 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:48:59pm

re: #30 Irenicum

Yep. I said to a FB friend tonight how RP was deeply naive to subscribe to a rational choice notion of human behavior. Our instinctual impulses drive our behavior much more than we're comfortably willing to admit.

Perceptions and emotions rule the day!

32 wilburs  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:50:56pm

re: #2 brennant

I am not sure if this is downstairs but Trump drops Republican Party registration in NY.

We Shall Overcomb

great slogan!

33 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:51:15pm

re: #26 Gus 802

That may lead them to burn their Gore-Tex before the cops! Some of the elders try and straighten them out. I think it kind of works. But they easily go astray. Run for them hills!

Too much Alex Jones. It's almost ingrained.

ELEVENTY!!1 sells. It's 'drama' grabs attention, while a calm analysis of the facts is boring to that kind of drama queen. Albusteve has them right: AmIdol Politics.

34 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:51:58pm

re: #27 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I agree with everything in here. I did not call today's lwnj screamers the Teaparty on the Left for nothin'.

I just CAN'T WAIT for the primary season, in which I will be educated by one of the leftybagger bus tours on why I should sit out the election, since Obama = Bush. //

Absurd.

Obamabushhilter is coming to take my pron collection away! I will be in indefinite detention for decades! FEMA camps and Greenwald dreams and reruns of Democracy Now! I am oppressed I tell ya!

Let's relive 2003 again for posterity's sake. Perhaps not.

35 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:52:08pm

Damn. I forgot how cool it is to hang out here.

36 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:52:44pm

re: #32 wilburs

Hahahaha.

37 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:53:05pm

re: #30 Irenicum

I am willing to admit my instinctive faults. Or maybe they're beneficial traits. Dunno. Pressed oddly so, I will achieve.

When a carnival barker is selling the latest brand of political apocalypse? I don't buy snake oil.

38 Kragarghazi  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:53:48pm

re: #32 wilburs

We Shall Overcomb

great slogan!

Image: tumblr_lkjsxrKxoF1qgeo95o1_400.jpg

39 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:53:55pm

SOPA! This can only mean the end. Once Obama signs SOPA I'm sure to go to prison for 200 years.

//

40 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:56:10pm

re: #39 Gus 802

So in these frightening times, when the wingnut stocks up on ammo and dehydrated foods, what does the moonbat stock up on?

41 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:57:42pm

re: #39 Gus 802

I don't know enough about SOPA to speak ex cathedra about it. But I know that people who I respect have landed on both sides of the issue. The ideologues all seem to have "perfect" knowledge about this and every other issue. And of course, that very epistemic certainty scares the shit out of me.

42 Kragarghazi  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:57:57pm

Just in, according to my wife, I am not authorized to wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle yeah until Christmas is over.

43 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:58:22pm

re: #40 Slumbering Behemoth

Very large supplies of herbal remedies.

44 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:58:32pm

re: #22 Gus 802

Dan Choi should be retired. He wasn't cut out for being in the army. Buy him out. Give him a 90K pension and tell him to go away.

I thought Choi was retired.

45 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:59:48pm

re: #42 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My deepest sympathies...

May your wiggle return triumphant.

46 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 10:59:51pm

re: #42 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Wiggle Stick, DENIED!

47 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:00:11pm

re: #44 SanFranciscoZionist

I thought Choi was retired.

I thought he was reinstated. In any case. He sure seems to have a lot of free time on his hands.

48 Kragarghazi  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:01:04pm

re: #45 Irenicum

My deepest sympathies...

May your wiggle return triumphant.

Have to go to the 2:09 mark

Youtube Video
49 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:02:40pm

re: #43 Irenicum

Very large supplies of herbal remedies.

A tendency not unique. Wingnuts go for that as well.

50 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:06:12pm

re: #49 Slumbering Behemoth

Very true. The "woo" is strong with them.

51 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:06:44pm

re: #32 wilburs

We Shall Overcomb

great slogan!

20 updings if I could!

52 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:07:40pm

re: #37 Slumbering Behemoth

I am willing to admit my instinctive faults. Or maybe they're beneficial traits. Dunno. Pressed oddly so, I will achieve.

When a carnival barker is selling the latest brand of political apocalypse? I don't buy snake oil.

Hey, it's a hell of a business if you can survive it.

:0

53 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:08:56pm

re: #50 Irenicum

Very true. The "woo" is strong with them.

It's born of a distrust of "the establishment". To concede that anyone hailed in the mainstream press as knowledgeable is anything other than a malefactor, a dupe, or a shill is seen as taking a step towards becoming "sheeple".

54 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:09:19pm

Where do you think you'll go if you start selling pristine copies of Johnny Depp's latest movie?

55 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:10:28pm

re: #48 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Nice "Thriller" reference at the end there.

56 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:10:35pm

re: #54 Gus 802

Where do you think you'll go if you start selling pristine copies of Johnny Depp's latest movie?

Depends on what country and to whom you try to sell them.

57 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:11:19pm

re: #39 Gus 802

SOPA! This can only mean the end. Once Obama signs SOPA I'm sure to go to prison for 200 years.

//

If we do not find someone -- anyone will do -- to primary him, we will have been stuck with 16 years of George Bush!!!

58 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:11:48pm

re: #54 Gus 802

China, maybe?

59 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:11:53pm

And the OCD over Godaddy. Pathetic.

60 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:12:05pm

re: #54 Gus 802

Where do you think you'll go if you start selling pristine copies of Johnny Depp's latest movie?

Hell!!

Obama is The Devil!!!

!!!

61 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:13:13pm

re: #60 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Hell!!

Obama is The Devil!!!

!!!

That seems to be the conclusion with that crowd.

62 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:13:26pm

re: #59 Gus 802

And the OCD over Godaddy. Pathetic.

Ha, I put up a similar FB post after reading your thing about boycotting iphones and ipads to get Apple to dump SOPA support.

Was hilarious.

63 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:15:39pm

re: #61 Gus 802

That seems to be the conclusion with that crowd.

same
as
tea
baggers

64 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:16:17pm

re: #62 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Ha, I put up a similar FB post after reading your thing about boycotting iphones and ipads to get Apple to dump SOPA support.

Was hilarious.

So did they respond or did Apple drop their support of SOPA?

I absolutely eat up their denial of Apple. It's like watching a controlled experiment.

65 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:17:06pm

re: #59 Gus 802

What's "godaddy", precious?

66 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:20:07pm

re: #65 Slumbering Behemoth

What's "godaddy", precious?

OMG! Little Green Footballs is a Godaddy site. Guess we have blood on our hands. Whatever. I swear these overt PC folks are just a pain in the fucking ass.

67 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:20:41pm

They really are like the religious right.

68 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:21:46pm

re: #53 Dark_Falcon

There's a deep anti-intellectualism which resides in the American (and I suspect in many other cultures too) mindset which is deeply antagonistic and fearful of intellectual inquiry. To question is to subvert. But that may be the very thing that is necessary to deliver us from a darkened construct which is scared shitless by anything outside of its accepted framework. Strangely enough, it's been my doubtful and questioning Christianity that has allowed me to engage in this subversive intellectual inquiry. But I know that it's also been behind many people behaving in exactly the opposite way.

69 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:23:13pm

re: #64 Gus 802

So did they respond or did Apple drop their support of SOPA?

I absolutely eat up their denial of Apple. It's like watching a controlled experiment.

Funny thing is, in 2000 and earlier if you went to some lw rally, people would try and stare you down if you carried a cell phone.

Me, I stare down right back. So, that never went far with me. And now?

Absurd.

70 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:25:07pm

re: #66 Gus 802

OMG! Little Green Footballs is a Godaddy site. Guess we have blood on our hands. Whatever. I swear these overt PC folks are just a pain in the fucking ass.

Right and straight over my head. Clearly I am late to this conversation.

Don't mind me, y'all.

71 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:25:17pm

re: #69 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Funny thing is, in 2000 and earlier if you went to some lw rally, people would try and stare you down if you carried a cell phone.

Me, I stare down right back. So, that never went far with me. And now?

Absurd.

Wait. Let me guess. If you own a cell phone you're responsible for the death of a family of 3rd world people. I heard that from someone if you own more than one pair of shoes.

Lot of guilt. Just like some religions we know.

72 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:25:30pm

re: #68 Irenicum

There's a deep anti-intellectualism which resides in the American (and I suspect in many other cultures too) mindset which is deeply antagonistic and fearful of intellectual inquiry. To question is to subvert. But that may be the very thing that is necessary to deliver us from a darkened construct which is scared shitless by anything outside of its accepted framework. Strangely enough, it's been my doubtful and questioning Christianity that has allowed me to engage in this subversive intellectual inquiry. But I know that it's also been behind many people behaving in exactly the opposite way.

Most conspiracy nuts see themselves as inquirers. The problem is that they only want to inquire into proving what they already think they know. Present the facts and they go into denial.

73 wilburs  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:25:46pm

re: #51 ggt

20 updings if I could!

I shouldn't laugh since I have basically the same hairstyle

74 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:26:52pm

re: #68 Irenicum

If you come from a Christian tradition that has always been under fire and/or in opposition, you get some of that. It's why stupid wingnut and leftybagger bigots alike are constantly frustrated with Black [which is basically to say Black Protestant] voting patterns. Neither are capable of controlling them, which is perplexing to them, since we're so, you know, Christian and intellectually inferior, we just do whatever we're told.

/Schadenfreude

75 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:30:04pm

I'm still weird in the fact that I really do prefer to not have the Federal government be involved with every aspect of my life while complaining about the Federal government.

That's the one thing I never understood about the left. One moment they're full of rage against the Feds. The next they're demanding everything from the Feds. Make up your mind.

76 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:32:04pm

re: #71 Gus 802

Wait. Let me guess. If you own a cell phone you're responsible for the death of a family of 3rd world people. I heard that from someone if you own more than one pair of shoes.

Lot of guilt. Just like some religions we know.

Heh. My culture does not do guilt.

But yeah, own a cell phone, you're a corporate slave, and whatnot.

Lol I had one of them actually tell me I'm a "slave". I was like, um, no, my great grandparents were the actual *real* slaves, choose a better metaphor to try and get your little point across.

Everywhere you go...dorks.

To some people's credit, there was indeed an influx of NASTY, pretentious, truly trust-fund grown up College Republican types, who would go to every other part of the city than the Marina they lived in, and treat everyone else like shit.

But throw me shade, get shade thrown right back directly at you. C'est la vie.

77 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:32:34pm

Early report says Newt didn't get enough signatures to be placed on the Virginia primary ballot.

This is interesting, if true. With Perry already out I'm not sure Romney is well served by not having any substantial competition in that race. Since the die hard conservatives who hate him are already under the impression that GOP insiders are trying to arrange a coronation, the lack of any viable options in the primary may anger some conservatives further, driving them to a third party protest vote in the general election.

78 jvic  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:33:17pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

re: #14 Gus 802

Republicans are going to send you to FEMA camps by way of the NDAA and SOPA! Run for the hills with massive butthurt and scariness!

Bunch of drama queens, like teabaggers in that way. They both want to imagine they're brave truth-tellers, under threat from a fascist police state. If you dropped them into Tahir Square in Cairo and they had to face the Egyptian police (who, unlike the NYPD, really do practice Fascist Policing), the drama queens would piss their pants and cry for their mothers.

Actually, DF, I believe that beyond a certain point the descent into a police state is faster and easier than we can readily imagine from where we are: the slippery slope steepens and becomes a drop-off.

Not that I needed reminding, but googling in response to SFZ's Akhmatova quote in the previous thread reminded me that I am no defiant teller of truth to Grand Inquisitors. That is why I am suspicious of shifts and concentrations of power, especially when they are created hastily without clarity and due diligence.

In the previous paragraph, I deliberately did not restrict the phrase "shifts and concentrations of power" to government power.

79 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:36:20pm

Whether in my FB, G+ or Twitter iterations, anyone who knows me knows that I'm not exactly inclined towards conspiratorial thinking, of either the left or the right, religious or anti-religious. Every tradition has its baggage. I guess it's called being human.

The important thing to me is knowing that we know only in part, and are willing to have our minds changed by new information.

80 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:37:10pm

re: #76 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Heh. My culture does not do guilt.

But yeah, own a cell phone, you're a corporate slave, and whatnot.

Lol I had one of them actually tell me I'm a "slave". I was like, um, no, my great grandparents were the actual *real* slaves, choose a better metaphor to try and get your little point across.

Everywhere you go...dorks.

To some people's credit, there was indeed an influx of NASTY, pretentious, truly trust-fund grown up College Republican types, who would go to every other part of the city than the Marina they lived in, and treat everyone else like shit.

But throw me shade, get shade thrown right back directly at you. C'est la vie.

I lead a very guilt free life as a loner. I prefer it that way. I don't need some pampered person to tell me how to lead my life. I have a cell phone and barely use it. I also do work for developers and real estate. If I wanted to be a cult member I'd join one and trade in my beat up VW for a brand new Subaru, a masters degree.

You know they keep forgetting to remind people that if you take out student loans you really have to either a) pay them back or b) declare bankruptcy. Wish I had a protest movement for my car loan.

81 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:37:34pm

re: #75 Gus 802

I'm still weird in the fact that I really do prefer to not have the Federal government be involved with every aspect of my life while complaining about the Federal government.

That's the one thing I never understood about the left. One moment they're full of rage against the Feds. The next they're demanding everything from the Feds. Make up your mind.

I've always equated it with teenagers.

"MOM, don't tell me what to do! Can I have money to go to the mall?

82 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:39:26pm

re: #78 jvic

Bunch of drama queens, like teabaggers in that way. They both want to imagine they're brave truth-tellers, under threat from a fascist police state. If you dropped them into Tahir Square in Cairo and they had to face the Egyptian police (who, unlike the NYPD, really do practice Fascist Policing), the drama queens would piss their pants and cry for their mothers.

Actually, DF, I believe that beyond a certain point the descent into a police state is faster and easier than we can readily imagine from where we are: the slippery slope steepens and becomes a drop-off.

I don't disagree, I just don't think that the general police response to the 'Occupy' movement is a sign of the USA going down that slope. There have been problems, and sometimes the police did wrong demonstrators, but on balance the police in this country have been decent in their actions and have avoided overreaction.

So yes, the sloop exists, but right now we aren't on it.

83 Gus  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:39:41pm

I'm really tired and must bail fast. Good night.

84 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:41:27pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

If RP got the requisite number of signatures, then he'll get a ton of support. Especially considering the GOP in Va. We live in VERY interesting times.

85 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:42:42pm

re: #80 Gus 802

Yeah, my perspective on that, too, is a bit warped.

My student debt was taken out as an independent student because I had been estranged. Not one of these jackasses -- and I knew quite a few -- in the financial aid line because their parents are supporting them under the table but declared them "independent" so they could get financial aid.

I had one classmate in grad school tell me he NEEDS financial aid. You just don't understand! I am under so much pressure! I need to have a competitive portfolio by the time I get out of here because I need to be able to propose to Wilhelmina by the time she's 26 because her clock is ticking, and I don't want her father to say no because he's head of such and such firm and I want my children to have the same kind of life I had

...I am not making this crud up.

That dude's father was a federal circuit court judge.

Frickin' unreal.

86 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:45:22pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

Very true DF. I've seen that very behavior from my friends on both the far left and far right, as well as in the religious divide. Epistemic closure is very much a bipartisan/multipartisan malady.

87 Big Joe  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:48:06pm

re: #82 Dark_Falcon

So yes, the sloop exists, but right now we aren't on it.

I prefer sloops.

88 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:51:10pm

re: #82 Dark_Falcon

So yes, the sloop exists, but right now we aren't on it.

Again, agreed.

I say to people, look, it has been MUCH WORSE in America.

We are not there. It's also not very glamorous to actually have to be there, either, ask anyone who has done actual civil rights work.

89 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:51:18pm

re: #87 mracb

I prefer sloops.

I meant to write 'slope'. PIMF

90 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:53:16pm

re: #88 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Again, agreed.

I say to people, look, it has been MUCH WORSE in America.

We are not there. It's also not very glamorous to actually have to be there, either, ask anyone who has done actual civil rights work.

Favorited and Quoted For Truth.

You and I don't agree often, but on this we do.

91 wilburs  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:53:37pm

Did you know that (according to wikipedia) KFC is a very popular component of Christmas dinner in Japan?

Obviously the country could benefit from an influx of sharia inducing turkeys.

92 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:55:48pm

re: #91 wilburs

Did you know that (according to wikipedia) KFC is a very popular component of Christmas dinner in Japan?

Obviously the country could benefit from an influx of sharia inducing turkeys.

KFC

Special Recipe?

93 jvic  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:56:46pm

1. re: #82 Dark_Falcon

So yes, the slope exists, but right now we aren't on it.

We the nation, we the human species, are moving--fast and recklessly--in an environment that can change abruptly. The speed is okay with me, but not the dismissive recklessness. It seems that every ten-years the economy or the financial markets give us a so-called once-a-millenium shock.

Then again, I am the child of refugees. The collapse of Central European civilization before, during, and after WW2 is in my bones.

2. I'm glad to read that the job you recently worried about holding is going so well. Merry Christmas.

94 Irenicum  Fri, Dec 23, 2011 11:59:29pm

G'nite gang. Glad to hang out after so long. And also glad to see some of the usual suspects still hanging out.

95 jvic  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 12:06:02am

re: #93 jvic

We the nation, we the human species, are moving--fast and recklessly--in an environment that can change abruptly. The speed is okay with me, but not the dismissive recklessness. It seems that every ten-years the economy or the financial markets give us a so-called once-a-millenium shock.

To rephrase: even if we're not on a slope right this minute, we'd better realize the ground is slippery.

96 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 12:09:52am

re: #95 jvic

To rephrase: even if we're not on a slope right this minute, we'd better realize the ground is slippery.

fast and reckless go together.

I don't think we can separate the two.

We can only work to recognize as much change as we can to know how to smooth it over when there is a lull in the action.

97 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 12:12:02am

re: #96 ggt

fast and reckless go together.

I don't think we can separate the two.

We can only work to recognize as much change as we can to know how to smooth it over when there is a lull in the action.

The problem, IMHO, is those who want to stop/slow change and reverse course to Restore the Mythical Republic and the Mythical Caliphate. And those who want to tweek perceptions to create some future Utopia.

All of which are impossible.

Change is Organic and Dynamic. We are only along for the ride.

98 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 12:15:08am

Fast and Reckless is also a hell of a drug.

Some people like that ride and don't ever want it to stop.

And, I'm done being the armchair philosopher for tonite.

Have a great Christmas Eve morning all!

99 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 12:18:39am

in the airport now
merry christmas to those who celebrate

100 jvic  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 12:22:40am

re: #96 ggt

fast and reckless go together.

I don't think we can separate the two.

We can't separate speed and risk, agreed. Although recklessness is often recognized only in hindsight, we can conscientiously try to separate speed and recklessness. (Funny that this should come up. Earlier today I was musing that the worst screw-ups I've experienced were not created by fools, but by smart people who overrated their capabilities. What about yours truly? No comment.)

2. Good night, all.

101 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 12:27:09am

re: #93 jvic

1.

We the nation, we the human species, are moving--fast and recklessly--in an environment that can change abruptly. The speed is okay with me, but not the dismissive recklessness. It seems that every ten-years the economy or the financial markets give us a so-called once-a-millenium shock.

Then again, I am the child of refugees. The collapse of Central European civilization before, during, and after WW2 is in my bones.

2. I'm glad to read that the job you recently worried about holding is going so well. Merry Christmas.

About my job: It's better because I realized i was going down a slope at whose bottom was my firing. I didn't like that story, so I took a medical leave and got the help it turns out I needed. The pill I now take controls my narcolepsy without being an outright stimulant. I also really put more work into my job, and that helped, too.

Goodnight, all.

102 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 1:26:58am

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

LOL, it's confirmed:

@VA_GOP After verification, RPV has determined that Newt Gingrich did not submit required 10k signatures and has not qualified for the VA primary.

Inept campaign is inept.

103 Varek Raith  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 2:20:29am

re: #102 goddamnedfrank

LOL, it's confirmed:

Inept campaign is inept.

Lol

104 RogueOne  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 4:38:18am

Merry Xmas Eve People, Wake up!

105 RogueOne  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 4:48:58am

Slade:

Youtube Video
106 William of Orange  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 5:32:03am

Still no topic about The Donald? When will they invent 24 hours of daylight in Los Angeles?

107 austin_blue  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 6:13:54am

Greetings, all, from the almost sunny climes of Bedfordshire, UK. It's my Holiday residence for X-mas/New Years.

It is almost, but not quite, completely unlike Texas.

108 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 6:50:02am

Merry Christmas Eve Honcos!!

We are having pheasants for Christmas dinner to avoid a Turkey Sharia!!11!!

Hope all enjoy a break from working and the celebration if that is your thing.

109 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 6:54:45am

Whatever happens next, things have changed in Russia.

[Link: www.ridus.ru...]

110 austin_blue  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 7:00:20am

re: #108 rwdflynavy

Merry Christmas Eve Honcos!!

We are having pheasants for Christmas dinner to avoid a Turkey Sharia!!11!!

Hope all enjoy a break from working and the celebration if that is your thing.

Goose, here!

re: #109 Sergey Romanov

Whatever happens next, things have changed in Russia.

[Link: www.ridus.ru...]

Amazing, isn't it? Between Facebook, Twitter, and Google, The Word is out and the State can do nothing.

111 sattv4u2  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 7:05:06am

re: #108 rwdflynavy

Merry Christmas Eve Honcos!!

We are having pheasants for Christmas dinner to avoid a Turkey Sharia!!11!!

Hope all enjoy a break from working and the celebration if that is your thing.

ugh ,,,, heading to the shower to get ready for work in a few!

112 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 7:19:22am

re: #110 austin_blue

Amazing, isn't it? Between Facebook, Twitter, and Google, The Word is out and the State can do nothing.

They could do "something", but then there might have been an outright uprising.

113 austin_blue  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 7:22:48am

re: #112 Sergey Romanov

They could do "something", but then there might have been an outright uprising.

Oh, agreed! But you will notice on the CNN picture page that crowd control is being performed by "cadets from the Police Academy."

Maybe I should have said: "They could tear this crowd to pieces, but it's a good bet they won't."??

114 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 7:32:12am

It's Christmas Eve! My girls are watching Santa going across the world right now.

115 darthstar  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 7:34:28am

re: #108 rwdflynavy

Merry Christmas Eve Honcos!!

We are having pheasants for Christmas dinner to avoid a Turkey Sharia!!11!!

Hope all enjoy a break from working and the celebration if that is your thing.

In order to avoid Turkey Sharia I've got eight live lobsters I'm bringing to my folks' house for xmas eve noms. And two boxes of oysters (Miyagis and Kumamotos) I'll shuck for appetizers tomorrow.

Mornin' everyone

116 darthstar  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 7:35:40am

re: #114 NJDhockeyfan

It's Christmas Eve! My girls are watching Santa going across the world right now.

I wonder if he's allowed to cross North Korean air space this year.

117 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 7:38:46am

re: #116 darthstar

I wonder if he's allowed to cross North Korean air space this year.

I'm surprised NASA is still able to put that online. I figure someone would have already tried to sue them for the 'Separation of State' bullshit.

118 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 7:39:55am

re: #117 NJDhockeyfan

I'm surprised NASA is still able to put that online. I figure someone would have already tried to sue them for the 'Separation of State' bullshit.

Santa isn't really a religious figure. More a cultural one. But separation of church and state, rather than being bullshit, is immensely important.

119 darthstar  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 7:40:33am

ONOEZ! President Obama says "Merry Christmas!"

Youtube Video
120 Ghazicide  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 7:41:31am

The Separation of Church Christo Pagan Fairy Tales and State is bullshit!

121 abolitionist  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 7:42:39am

Mexico seizes 229 tons of precursor chemicals

MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico said Friday that it seized 229 metric tons of precursor chemicals used to make methamphetamine, the third such huge seizure this month at the Pacific port of Lazaro Cardenas, all of which were bound for a port in Guatemala.

The seizure bringing to over 534 tons the amount of meth chemicals detected at Lazaro Cardenas in less than a month.
[snip]
The Attorney General's Office said the most recent seizure was found in 1,600 drums, and had been shipped from Shanghai, China.

One of our preferred trade partners. I'm rapidly losing my optimisim that good relations with China will continue.

122 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 7:45:11am

re: #118 Obdicut

Santa isn't really a religious figure. More a cultural one. But separation of church and state, rather than being bullshit, is immensely important.

We know that but it doesn't stop some people. There is that candy cane incident for example heading to the Supreme Court now. I'll be interested to see how that ends up.

123 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 7:52:15am

HOLIDAY WINDOWS-NYC.
a few samples of the still elegant art of holiday window design...

124 austin_blue  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 7:53:23am

re: #121 abolitionist

Mexico seizes 229 tons of precursor chemicals

One of our preferred trade partners. I'm rapidly losing my optimisim that good relations with China will continue.

What, you don't approve of unfettered International Capitalism?

;-)

125 abolitionist  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 7:56:23am

re: #124 austin_blue

What, you don't approve of unfettered International Capitalism?

;-)

I'm for fettering, in moderation.

126 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 7:57:17am

[Link: www.ridus.ru...]

127 austin_blue  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 7:59:39am

re: #125 abolitionist

I'm for fettering, in moderation.

As is right and proper.

128 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:00:48am

re: #126 Sergey Romanov

Who are the guys with the eagle crest flags?
[Link: www.ridus.ru...]
Nationalists?

129 darthstar  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:01:09am

re: #122 NJDhockeyfan

We know that but it doesn't stop some people. There is that candy cane incident for example heading to the Supreme Court now. I'll be interested to see how that ends up.

Wow...it has the same lawyer that will be arguing against Obamacare...what are the odds of that happening? And what's wrong with a bunch of crazed evangelicals giving out candycanes with bible verses and asking those condemned to eternal damnation if they don't want to reconsider taking on a personal savior?

130 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:01:41am

re: #122 NJDhockeyfan

We know that but it doesn't stop some people. There is that candy cane incident for example heading to the Supreme Court now. I'll be interested to see how that ends up.

Well, yeah, that case is a straight up violation of the first amendment. Proselytizing on school grounds? Please.

131 darthstar  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:02:05am

re: #126 Sergey Romanov

[Link: www.ridus.ru...]

It's not even close to May day.

132 Ghazicide  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:02:44am

re: #129 darthstar

Leave those Christians alone!

133 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:03:32am

re: #122 NJDhockeyfan

We know that but it doesn't stop some people. There is that candy cane incident for example heading to the Supreme Court now. I'll be interested to see how that ends up.

Here's another take on that story:

Reopening of "Candy Cane Case" no present for Texas principals

There will be no celebrating of Christmas with candy canes by two Texas area principals this holiday season. Yesterday, an appeal was filed with the U.S. Supreme Court seeking to overturn the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals decision granting the educators qualified immunity in the so called "Candy Cane Case." It is doubtful that it is coincidental that the appeal was filed just three days prior to Christmas in a move that is sure to increase publicity for this case.

The background to this appeal is that in Plano, Texas, third grade student Jonathon Morgan sought to distribute to his classmates Christmas gift bags each of which contained candy cane ink pens. Attached to each of these pens was a laminated bookmark on which was printed, "The Legend of the Candy Cane." The message described that the candy cane is a Christian symbol with the shape representing the "J' in "Jesus" and the three stripes representing the trinity. The school principal at the time told the parents that Jonathon could not distribute the gifts.

Continues.

Excerpt from said "legend of the candy cane":

The traditional candy cane has 3 small red stripes to remind us of the soldiers' stripes by which we are healed and a larger stripe which represents the blood shed by Christ on Calvary's tree (Is 53:5; Mt 27:32-50). Some people say that the 3 small stripes honor the Holy Trinity while the larger Exstripe reminds us of the one true God. Others claim that the small stripes represent our mini-passions or sufferings and the great stripe symbolizes Christ's Passion. A green stripe is sometimes placed on candy canes to remind us that Jesus is God's gift to us. (Green is the color of giving.)

And from Snopes.

Claim: Candy canes were created to symbolize Jesus, their shape representing the letter "J" and their colors standing for the purity and blood of Christ.
Status: False
Example: [Collected via email, 1997]

134 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:03:56am

re: #128 Killgore Trout

Who are the guys with the eagle crest flags?
[Link: www.ridus.ru...]
Nationalists?

Monarchists. I'm sure you'd get along well with them.

135 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:04:44am

re: #133 Gus 802

They're not just candy-canes. They have religious messages on them.

136 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:05:22am

re: #134 wlewisiii

Monarchists. I'm sure you'd get along well with them.

Ah, thanks.

138 darthstar  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:10:00am

re: #133 Gus 802

I always like it when it Snopes at Xmas.

139 darthstar  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:14:24am

re: #133 Gus 802

Funny how easy it is, in 18 minutes, to write a short argumentative piece with three references...remember how hard it was to cite three references in high school?

140 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:14:33am

Well, I was always taught that candy canes were symbolic of the sherpherd's staff.

141 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:15:25am

Nopby 3B nytnha!

142 darthstar  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:15:33am

re: #140 EmmmieG

Well, I was always taught that candy canes were symbolic of the sherpherd's staff.

Bumpersitcker spotted the other day, "BAAA" means No.

143 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:15:50am

re: #139 darthstar

Funny how easy it is, in 18 minutes, to write a short argumentative piece with three references...remember how hard it was to cite three references in high school?

Yeah. If only I had this computer stuff when I was a young man! ;)

144 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:16:27am

re: #128 Killgore Trout

Who are the guys with the eagle crest flags?
[Link: www.ridus.ru...]
Nationalists?

Yep.

145 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:16:47am

re: #134 wlewisiii

Monarchists.

Nope.

146 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:18:36am

re: #144 Sergey Romanov

Yep.

Would a nationalist be pro-Putin or anti-Putin or just pro-Russia?

147 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:20:12am

re: #146 EmmmieG

Would a nationalist be pro-Putin or anti-Putin or just pro-Russia?

Nationalist is pro-ethnic Russians. Attitudes toward Russia or Putin vary.

148 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:20:53am

re: #145 Sergey Romanov

Nope.

Interesting. The ones I've always read of using that symbol were those who wanted the restoration of the Romanov's to the throne. Thus, while nationalistic, I would think monarchism first. Is that something that has changed or are there different versions of the royal crest?

149 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:21:03am

re: #147 Sergey Romanov

Nationalist is pro-ethnic Russians. Attitudes toward Russia or Putin vary.

Is that pro-ethnic Russian as in, let's do some folk dancing and have some traditional foods, or pro-ethnic Russian down with everyone else?

150 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:21:13am

[Link: www.ridus.ru...]

151 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:23:45am

Looks like a modified Russian imperial flag.

153 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:26:33am

re: #148 wlewisiii

It's the so-called Imperial flag, it is mainly used by nationalists. Monarchists do not exist as a political force.

154 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:27:22am

BREAKING!

TSA Confiscates Woman’s Frosted Cupcake

A Massachusetts woman who flew home from Las Vegas this week says an airport security officer took her frosted cupcake because he thought its vanilla-bourbon icing could be a “security risk.”

Rebecca Hains told ABCNews.com today that a Transportation Security Administration agent at Las Vegas- McCarran International Airport confiscated her cupcake, saying the frosting sitting atop the red velvet cake was gel-like enough to violate regulations.

The incident took place Wednesday...

155 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:28:13am

re: #153 Sergey Romanov

It's the so-called Imperial flag, it is mainly used by nationalists. Monarchists do not exist as a political force.

There's probably more interest in the whole legend of Anastasia, worldwide.

My daughter just brought home yet another book about Anastasia. This time, she has spent the last century as a prisoner of Baba Yaga and has to be freed.

156 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:28:16am

Cake is a lie! And cupcakes are really IEDs.

TSA 101.

//

157 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:28:26am

re: #153 Sergey Romanov

I'm having fun with the google translations of the comments on those pictures:

To run Kudrin ..??, not it possible that it would break?, But it is severely beat and hang up .... hahahahaaaa ... kicked out of the trough Ediraskoy. Sobshak fuck slut ... there priperlas Kremlin.

158 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:29:44am

re: #157 Obdicut

If you can read the captions, Ksenia Sobshak is the skinny blonde in the off-white coat.

159 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:31:01am

re: #149 EmmmieG

Is that pro-ethnic Russian as in, let's do some folk dancing and have some traditional foods, or pro-ethnic Russian down with everyone else?

It's "Russia for [ethnic] Russians" variety. In practice it is more often than not hostile towards ethnic minorities under the guise of a majority victimhood. IOW, usual ethnic nationalism.

160 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:32:14am

re: #155 EmmmieG

There's probably more interest in the whole legend of Anastasia, worldwide.

My daughter just brought home yet another book about Anastasia. This time, she has spent the last century as a prisoner of Baba Yaga and has to be freed.

Anastasia's bones are buried in St.Petersburg. Makes the whole legend darkly ironic.

161 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:33:38am

re: #153 Sergey Romanov

It's the so-called Imperial flag, it is mainly used by nationalists. Monarchists do not exist as a political force.

Ah, that makes more sense. I would also bet that while not being powerful they're more, uhm, sympathetic to Americans hence I ran into them more often. Thank you for the explanation.

162 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:33:46am

re: #160 Sergey Romanov

Anastasia's bones are buried in St.Petersburg. Makes the whole legend darkly ironic.

Wait--did you know about the whole thing with the German factory worker who claimed to actually be Anastasia? It went on during the Soviet era, so you might never have heard about it.

It's largely why the cartoons and the legends fixate on Anastasia.

163 darthstar  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:33:48am

re: #154 Gus 802

BREAKING!

TSA Confiscates Woman’s Frosted Cupcake

What kind of idiot tries to carry a cupcake with them while they travel?

164 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:34:20am

"That's no cupcake Missy. That's a North Korean anti-personal device!" -- Colonel Flagg

165 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:34:38am

re: #157 Obdicut

I'm having fun with the google translations of the comments on those pictures:

Ksenia Sobchak is Russian Paris Hilton (tho with more brains). Daughter the late mayor of St.Petersburg who was Putin's patron in 1990s. (Before...)

Kudrin is the recently kicked out finance minister. Now he too wants fair elections.

166 darthstar  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:35:21am

Okay...time to get on the road...see you all in about 5 hours or so.

167 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:35:37am

re: #165 Sergey Romanov

Ksenia Sobchak is Russian Paris Hilton (tho with more brains). Daughter the late mayor of St.Petersburg who was Putin's patron in 1990s. (Before...)

Kudrin is the recently kicked out finance minister. Now he too wants fair elections.

He's the guy in the black fur hat not looking at the camera that is facing him, right?

168 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:35:39am

re: #162 EmmmieG

Yeah, I know. I think there were several of those pretenders.

169 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:35:56am

re: #163 darthstar

What kind of idiot tries to carry a cupcake with them while they travel?

What kind of idiot confiscates a cupcake?

170 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:36:47am

re: #154 Gus 802

BREAKING!

TSA Confiscates Woman’s Frosted Cupcake

What next? They will be shooting arrows in knees?

171 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:36:48am

re: #163 darthstar

What kind of idiot tries to carry a cupcake with them while they travel?

I'd rather carry a cupcake than a toddler.

Cupcakes may be messy, but so are toddlers, and cupcakes don't have meltdowns in the aisle while the airplane needs to leave.

172 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:38:07am

re: #167 EmmmieG

He's the guy in the black fur hat not looking at the camera that is facing him, right?

Can't say, closed pages. I think yes. In glasses too.

173 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:38:33am

re: #172 Sergey Romanov

Can't say, closed pages. I think yes. In glasses too.

Yes, glasses.

174 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:39:18am

Breakfast. Merry Christmas everyone.

175 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:43:44am

Interesting point about Kudrin is that he was kicked out by Medvedev because of a conflict of principles (basically he's pushing for more right-wing fiscal policy in social sphere, but also is against overfeeding the fat military complex). However it was between him and Medved, not between him and Pu. Pu hinted more than once that Kudrin is still part of the team. So this is an interesting development.

176 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:52:34am

I loved popular writer Boris Akunin's strongly anti-Putin speech and the response he got when he asked whether people wanted Putin as their president:

[Link: tvrain.ru...]

177 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:53:37am

1941 fruitcake in Ohio sells for $525

Better put that in your carry-on to keep it from getting confiscated by the mall cops.

178 abolitionist  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:54:00am

re: #175 Sergey Romanov

Alexei Kudrin at a meeting of "For Fair Elections" December 24, 2011
Fifth pic from top. (Caption translation by google's chrome browser.)

179 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 8:55:48am

re: #178 abolitionist

yes

180 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:04:40am

The great Air Jordan riots of 2011:

In the early hours of Friday, police used pepper spray on about 20 customers who started fighting at a mall in suburban Seattle, Washington state, as they waited in line to buy the black-and-white Air Jordan 11 Retro Concords....

• At least four people were arrested after customers broke down a door at a store selling the shoes in Lithonia, Georgia
• There was an attempted robbery on a victim who was mistakenly believed to have just bought the shoes in Stockton, California
• About 100 shoppers forced their way into a shopping centre in Taylor, Michigan
• A gunshot rang out as shoppers queued in Richmond, California, although no injuries were reported
• Disorder was also reported in Charlotte, North Carolina; Indianapolis, Indiana; and Omaha, Nebraska

181 Ghazicide  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:06:12am

Image: ct_gaymarriage.jpg

182 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:10:20am

Bare bones Raspberry Pi PC gets ready to launch

The eagerly anticipated Raspberry Pi home computer is about to go into production.

The $25 (£16) machine is being created in the hope that it will inspire a new generation of technology whizz kids...

183 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:12:31am

re: #180 Gus 802

The great Air Jordan riots of 2011:

Remember some folks here in the states pointing and laughing at those foolish soccer hooligans in Europe? They get to stop laughing now. We are no better.

184 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:13:26am

Wholly Evil Media Conspiracy:

Reddit is going into outrage overdrive over the full version of Ron Paul's CNN interview which apparently shows that he didn't walk off after being asked about the newsletters. Rather it was edited to appear as though he did by skipping the last question. (I cannot be bothered to watch it again so I'll have to take Reddit at its word. lulz)

185 prairiefire  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:15:02am

Merry Christmas! Charlie Brown Christmas dance:

Youtube Video

I can dance like the little boy in the orange shirt. It's a real ice breaker!

186 Ghazicide  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:15:58am

The Great Office War

187 Killgore Trout  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:16:08am

re: #184 Alexzander

Reddit is going into outrage overdrive over the full version of Ron Paul's CNN interview which apparently shows that he didn't walk off after being asked about the newsletters. Rather it was edited to appear as though he did by skipping the last question. (I cannot be bothered to watch it again so I'll have to take Reddit at its word. lulz)

I just watched that too just to check. He did walk out, took off his mic and refused to even acknowledge the reporter as he left.

188 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:16:17am

re: #40 Slumbering Behemoth

So in these frightening times, when the wingnut stocks up on ammo and dehydrated foods, what does the moonbat stock up on?

Birkenstocks and homeopathic remedies.

189 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:18:41am

Reddit - Demographics

According to Google DoubleClick Ad Planner's estimate, the median U.S. Reddit user is male, 35–44 years of age, has some college education, and is making a middle-range income of $25,000 - $49,000 USD. The analysis also shows that the top audience interests of the site are development tools, scripting languages, and C and C++, suggesting a computer savvy demographic and culture.

190 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:18:59am

Merry Christmas to all who partake of it, and a Merry Day to the rest of you.
I feel rich this morning. Dinner with dad last night, making dinner for close friends tonight and then it's Christmas with D_L's family. We are truly blessed.

191 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:20:22am

re: #68 Irenicum

There's a deep anti-intellectualism which resides in the American (and I suspect in many other cultures too) mindset which is deeply antagonistic and fearful of intellectual inquiry. To question is to subvert. But that may be the very thing that is necessary to deliver us from a darkened construct which is scared shitless by anything outside of its accepted framework. Strangely enough, it's been my doubtful and questioning Christianity that has allowed me to engage in this subversive intellectual inquiry. But I know that it's also been behind many people behaving in exactly the opposite way.

You think too much. You're over thinking it. Just go with the flow.

192 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:20:26am

re: #171 EmmmieG

I'd rather carry a cupcake than a toddler.

Cupcakes may be messy, but so are toddlers, and cupcakes don't have meltdowns in the aisle while the airplane needs to leave.

There is nothing worse than babies on planes. Nothing.

193 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:21:11am

re: #191 b_sharp

You think too much. You're over thinking it. Just go with the flow.

Play it cool man, just listen to some Stones.

194 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:22:51am

My wife just discovered where she wants to go for vacation.

Christmas Island

195 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:23:34am

re: #192 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

There is nothing worse than babies on planes. Nothing.

They should make baby sections on large planes with sound proof dividers.

196 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:23:41am

re: #185 prairiefire

Merry Christmas! Charlie Brown Christmas dance:

[Video]I can dance like the little boy in the orange shirt. It's a real ice breaker!

I can certainly see it breaking something.

197 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:25:24am

On Ron Paul and the CNN video:

I'm voting for Obama still but I find it very suspicious what the media is doing to this guy!!11ty

Notice how CNN has become "the media."

Be afraid. Be very afraid! //

198 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:25:41am

re: #192 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

There is nothing worse than babies on planes. Nothing.

Drunk assholes.

199 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:25:53am

re: #195 Alexzander

They should make baby sections on large planes with sound proof dividers.

It's called the baggage section.

200 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:27:14am

re: #197 Gus 802

On Ron Paul and the CNN video:

Notice how CNN has become "the media."

Be afraid. Be very afraid! //

And a comment from said Reddit thread:

notice how the snakess puts words into his mouth "you blamed the Israelis for the 1993 bombings in New York" while everyone who knows anything knows that he never said such a thing. What he said is the truth: that we are targeted by terrorists for supporting and arming the Apartheid State of Israel and this terror is a retribution for our actions overseas. Pat Buchanan and just about everyone who is not a Zionist pandering politician said the same thing.

Ron Paul always brings these guys out.

201 Ghazicide  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:27:55am

re: #192 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

There is nothing worse than babies on planes. Nothing.

Snakes are way worse on a plane, unless you have Samuel Jackson.

202 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:28:20am

re: #195 Alexzander

They should make baby sections on large planes with sound proof dividers.

The parents should just stay their asses at home or take Amtrak.

204 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:28:47am

re: #187 Killgore Trout

I just watched that too just to check. He did walk out, took off his mic and refused to even acknowledge the reporter as he left.

Yep. I don't see anything essentially diff in this version.

205 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:29:17am

re: #198 NJDhockeyfan

Drunk assholes.

Those Canucks, they're just comedy gold.

206 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:30:32am

re: #203 NJDhockeyfan

Fired Quebec school secretary starts porn company

I'm glad she has a good head on her shoulders.

207 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:31:51am

re: #204 Sergey Romanov

Yep. I don't see anything essentially diff in this version.

I just watched it too and it's pretty clear that the cold ending was a result of the newsletters questions. That being said, that interviewer really pressed on the newsletters-type questions in a manner I wish they'd do to other candidates.

208 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:32:14am

re: #206 b_sharp

I'm glad she has a good head on her shoulders.

Youtube Video
209 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:34:03am

re: #208 NJDhockeyfan

[Video]

Followed by:

Youtube Video
210 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:38:32am

re: #200 Gus 802

And a comment from said Reddit thread:

Ron Paul always brings these guys out.

And some comments from the uncut CNN Ron Paul video:

• 10/3/2001, A.P. News reported via Israel Radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael an argument erupted at the Israeli cabinet weekly session between Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his foreign Minister Shimon Peres. Peres warned Sharon that refusing American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would harm Israeli interests and "turn the US against us". Sharon yelled at Peres, saying "DONT WORRY ABOUT AMERICAN PRESSURE! WE THE JEWISH PEOPLE, CONTROL AMERICA, AND THE AMERICANS KNOW IT!"

• "I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy not approved by the Jews.. terrific control the Jews have over the news media . I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don't approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress"-----Sec. of State John Foster Dulles, on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff

• She has one sister named Paula. Borger cites her religion as Jewish. Borger lives in Washington, D.C. with her husband, Lance Morgan, a lobbyist who works for Powell Tate and their two sons. Powell Tate is one of the same lobbyists Ron Paul is trying to get out of Washington. The media is trying to fool you!! Think people. Vote Dr. Paul

• Gloria Borger cites her religion as Jewish. Borger lives in Washington, D.C. with her husband, Lance Morgan, a lobbyist who works for Powell Tate. One of the same lobbyists that Ron Paul is trying to get out of Washington. Makes you wonder...

• SHE IS JEWISH? THAT EXPLAINS IT.

• America, GET THE ZIONISTS OUT OF YOUR COUNTRY, THEY ARE GOING TO DESTROY IT.

• Gloria Borger's husband works for: - Powell Tate is a division of Weber Shandwick​, a global public relations and communications leader and political advisory group...so basically, a bunch of rich Jewish lobbyists who would like nothing more than for Ron Paul to fall on his sword....so there is a conflict of interest here, the reporter has her interests at heart and doesn't care about the real questions or facts, which is typical of CNN anyway. LIBERTY WILL WIN - NOT ZIONISM!!! Cheers...........

• typical fucking Jewish reporter....zionists must be shitting themselves that Ron Paul is gonna be the next POTUS....Israel better start making peace with their neighbours...lolz

Note that these aren't from just one user but multiple users.

211 Bipartite Gnomenclature  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:41:56am

As an active participant in the 'War Against Christmas' I'm always torn between saying Merry Christmas in a secular manner and saying Happy Holidays, so from now on my Winter Solstice greeting will be 'Happy Merry' or 'Merry Happy'.

Sometimes I'll say 'Happy Monkey'.

So merry happy monkey folks.

212 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:43:28am

re: #211 b_sharp

As an active participant in the 'War Against Christmas' I'm always torn between saying Merry Christmas in a secular manner and saying Happy Holidays, so from now on my Winter Solstice greeting will be 'Happy Merry' or 'Merry Happy'.

Sometimes I'll say 'Happy Monkey'.

So merry happy monkey folks.

In England "Happy Christmas" is often said although it doesn't really solve your problem.

213 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:44:57am

Ron Paul endorsements:

• Austin Farley
• David Duke
• Don Black
• Derek Black
• James Edwards
• Political Cesspool
• Stormfront
• Vanguard

214 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:47:25am

re: #213 Gus 802

Ron Paul endorsements:

• Austin Farley
• David Duke
• Don Black
• Derek Black
• James Edwards
• Political Cesspool
• Stormfront
• Vanguard

Who compiled that list?

215 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:48:07am

re: #214 Alexzander

Who compiled that list?

Moi. Not meant to be accurate but the feeling is there.

216 Bear  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:52:16am

Interesting. [Link: www.washingtonpost.com...] Now what?

217 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 9:52:30am

@AngryBlackLady Imani ABL
In 6 months, GG will be calling us "Obama psychopaths" or "the Obama assassin squad" or something equally ridiculous. He cracks me up.

GG being Glenn Greenwald. Followed!

@AngryBlackLady Imani ABL
lolz. Just read something from Greenwald -- he's now calling people "pathological Obama apologists." hahahaha. Dude's a clown. #TFY #p2

218 wilburs  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 10:02:13am

re: #216 Bear

Interesting. [Link: www.washingtonpost.com...] Now what?

This is a complete disaster for the GOP. With Paul as the only nonMitt, it insures he stays onstage for while, continuing to tarnish the GOP.

219 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 10:03:01am

INVASION OF THE BODY-SHOPPERS!

Swarms of demonically controlled metal monsters invade the streets of the city. They roar and scream and paw the ground, seeking the destruction of every living thing. They compete and jostle and collide, sometimes destroying each other in their reckless lust for human blood.

The toll mounts and the authorities, outnumbered hundreds to one, are helpless to stem the onslaught. The hideous spectacle strikes fear and revulsion into the hearts of every rational being.

Those who value their lives take refuge where they can. They huddle in fear, and pray in silent despair for divine intervention to strike the monsters down and end the nightmare.

A new Stephen King novel? A bad science fiction scenario?

Nope, just the local traffic during the Christmas season.

220 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 10:07:50am

re: #219 Shiplord Kirel

Stay tuned for the sequel, The Shopping Dead.

221 Gus  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 10:08:49am

Oh brother. On Crooks and Liars: Digby and Sam Seder Talk Ron Paul, Gary Johnson and Libertarianism in 2012

Some of the comments are, interesting.

[rolls eyes]

222 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Dec 24, 2011 10:43:11am

Happy Eve and 4th? day of Chanukah?


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