Santorum Admits He’s Trying to Force a Brokered Convention

GOPocalypse
Politics • Views: 26,742

An interesting but not surprising admission from Rick Santorum today: his aim is not to win the majority of Republican delegates, but to damage Mitt Romney so much that it will force a brokered convention. It’s a Republican battle to the death for the anti-science creationist fanatic.

The memo, to be distributed today, indicates that the Santorum campaign seems more concerned with arguing that Romney will not win a majority of delegates to the Republican National Convention, rather than making the case for why he will. Indeed, the over-2,000-word memo only addresses the possibility of Santorum reaching a majority in its final paragraph, and only as a throw-away. …

The strategy memo also argues that Romney will have difficulty reaching the 50-percent threshold in a three- or four-person race — an argument that is even more true for Santorum, who lacks the same organization and fundraising capacity as the front-runner.

This is a winning-by-losing strategy — and a hard one to sell to voters and donors.

Jump to bottom

124 comments
1 Kragar  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:28:52pm

TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES!!!
TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES!!!

2 erik_t  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:29:34pm

Unusually, I support Rick Santorum's efforts on a topic.

3 Four More Tears  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:31:14pm

I'm here to make crappy jokes and munch popcorn, and I'm all outta popcorn...

4 Kragar  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:32:18pm

Copied from the previous thread

Santorum: Real Americans don't live in NYC, Los Angeles

“I kept saying, you just stick with us, you go out and vote for your values and trust what you know,” Santorum said Saturday, fresh off his victory in the Kansas caucuses. “Because you don’t live in New York City. You don’t live in Los Angeles. You live like most Americans in between those two cities, and you know the values you believe in.”

5 Cinnabar  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:33:22pm

And just who does the convention pick -- one of the people who's already failed? Jeb Bush? ???

6 Kragar  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:34:05pm

re: #5 Mercurial

And just who does the convention pick -- one of the people who's already failed? Jeb Bush? ???

Sarah Palin, Herman Cain, Chuck Norris

7 Cinnabar  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:36:04pm

re: #6 Kragar

Sarah Palin, Herman Cain, Chuck Norris

No, seriously. Or were you being serious? In looking-glass land, there's no way of telling.

8 Kragar  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:40:53pm

re: #7 Mercurial

No, seriously. Or were you being serious? In looking-glass land, there's no way of telling.

At this point, I say the odds are about 50/50.

9 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:41:29pm

I don't understand,

I don't care to understand.

Make them go away.

please

(please don't confuse me with King Who ever and "Who will ride me of this troublesome priest?"

I'm really just frustrated.

10 Gus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:42:32pm

re: #4 Kragar

Copied from the previous thread

Santorum: Real Americans don't live in NYC, Los Angeles

Real Americans. Right about now I'm thinking about "America's city", FDNY, NYPD, the World Trade Center, September 11, 2001, and all the right wing pandering.

11 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:43:12pm
12 erik_t  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:43:30pm

re: #5 Mercurial

And just who does the convention pick -- one of the people who's already failed? Jeb Bush? ???

I'd have to assume some current or former governor. Bush, Daniels, Christie.

Terrible, doomed, hopeless candidacies all, to be sure.

13 jaunte  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:44:43pm

I'm looking forward to the Feats of Strength event: "Pushing Away Science."
It's scheduled just after the Airing of Grievances.

14 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:45:45pm

He's just not a Stand Up Man!

15 nines09  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:46:30pm

re: #4 Kragar

Copied from the previous thread

Santorum: Real Americans don't live in NYC, Los Angeles

"You know.Real Americans. You know. Wink. Wink. Nudge Nudge. Did he miss pissing on anyone? I really lost count.

16 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:47:03pm

Sarah Palin has already been hinting around that she might be interested if it comes to a brokered convention. Gotta love that.

Sarah Palin debating Barack Obama. The gods truly would smile.

17 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:47:08pm

When your moral compass is calibrated by bad thoughts, you generally end up taking your followers to a bad place.

18 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:48:30pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Sarah Palin has already been hinting around that she might be interested if it comes to a brokered convention. Gotta love that.

Sarah Palin debating Barack Obama. The gods truly would smile.

You know, I might pop some popcorn for that.

19 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:48:49pm

Dogs think they need to be fed.

Have a great evening all!

20 mr.fusion  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:50:45pm

re: #5 Mercurial

And just who does the convention pick -- one of the people who's already failed? Jeb Bush? ???

No way it's anybody that's not running

Imagine the uproar if they pick someone who NO ONE cast a vote for after all those primary votes have been cast, all the time campaigning and traveling, and all that money has been spent.

21 Archangelus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:51:12pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Sarah Palin debating Barack Obama.

Comedy gold at its finest (and sickest)...

22 mr.fusion  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:51:26pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Sarah Palin has already been hinting around that she might be interested if it comes to a brokered convention. Gotta love that.

Sarah Palin debating Barack Obama. The gods truly would smile.

The scary thing is.......she'd have a real chance at winning

23 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:52:26pm

re: #22 mr.fusion

The scary thing is...she'd have a real chance at winning

I don't think so ... Very few independents (if any) would pull the lever for her.

24 TedStriker  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:53:35pm

re: #10 Gus

Real Americans. Right about now I'm thinking about "America's city", FDNY, NYPD, the World Trade Center, September 11, 2001, and all the right wing pandering.

NYC was America's City after 9/11 to the RWNJs, just so long as her liberal tendencies stayed in check, because it gave them a reason to call for our armed forces to go kick some ass in the sandbox.

Now that the responsibility for wrapping up those same military operations falls to a Sekrit Black Mooslim Democrat in the White House, their support for NYC (and most other cities that aren't in their traditional strongholds) falls to the wayside.

Fuck Santorum and his fellow travelers in their ear holes.

25 mr.fusion  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:54:25pm

re: #23 _RememberTonyC

I don't think so ... Very few independents (if any) would pull the lever for her.

Whoever the GOP nominee is, they're going to start out with 46% of the vote due to ODS

26 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:55:16pm

Kamikaze candidates, the Republicans have brought this on themselves and deserve every bit of damage Santorum and Gingrich can inflict on them.

27 [deleted]  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:55:17pm
28 recusancy  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:55:20pm

re: #22 mr.fusion

The scary thing is...she'd have a real chance at winning

Winning what? The general? haha

29 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:56:33pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Sarah Palin has already been hinting around that she might be interested if it comes to a brokered convention. Gotta love that.

Sarah Palin debating Barack Obama. The gods truly would smile.

I quote a far wiser (and funnier) man than I:

I'm telling you, Jesus and I are not good enough friends for Him to bless me with a brokered Republican convention, much less one pitting The Smart One against Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods.

Imagine. A weeklong brawl between an effort to rehabilitate the Bush family brand and the ongoing project aimed at turning a marginally literate grifter into a political titan. The almost limtless vista of sheer public mendacity that a hooley like that would produce would be awesome to behold.

30 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:56:40pm

Santorum is not only admitting he can't win the delegate count, he's also admitting that the conventioneers are more wing-nutty than the Republican electorate at large.

What he isn't addressing is that this will give the Republicans a candidate even less likely to beat Obama.

31 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:56:49pm

re: #24 talon_262

NYC was America's City after 9/11 to the RWNJs, just so long as her liberal tendencies stayed in check, because it gave them a reason to call for our armed forces to go kick some ass. Now that the responsibility for wrapping up those same military operations falls to a Sekrit Black Mooslim Democrat in the White House, their support for NYC falls to the wayside.

Fuck Santorum and his fellow travelers in their ear holes.

I'm sure there are still many NY'ers who feel hawkish about the WOT. But the divisiveness fostered by the pols continues to erode our common bonds.

32 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:58:45pm

re: #28 recusancy

Winning what? The general? haha

Economy tanks, Obama loses. You may call BS, but I also didn't think Santorum would be anywhere near Obama in the polls. Yet here we are.

33 Archangelus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:58:58pm

re: #22 mr.fusion

The scary thing is...she'd have a real chance at winning

I wholeheartedly believe that Fidel Castro's chances of winning a Dance-Dance Revolution tournament are higher than the chances of Miss Quitty Quit-quit McQuiter winning any election...

34 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:01:47pm

re: #32 Lenin's Mummy

Economy tanks, Obama loses. You may call BS, but I also didn't think Santorum would be anywhere near Obama in the polls. Yet here we are.

That really is the only scenario I see where the GOP wins by a significant margin, namely the economy imploding between now and November. It's not impossible, but it's also a bad thing to gamble an election on if you're running against an incumbent. What do you say if things don't get worse between now and then? "If I were in office, it would be even better"?

35 Four More Tears  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:04:01pm

re: #32 Lenin's Mummy

Economy tanks, Obama loses. You may call BS, but I also didn't think Santorum would be anywhere near Obama in the polls. Yet here we are.

I don't know if there are any bubbles to burst at the moment to create that level of economic distress. I guess there are always gas prices...

36 SmithCommaJohn  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:04:05pm

They should forget about Tampa, and hold the GOP convention in the Thunderdome.

37 Stanghazi  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:06:47pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Sarah Palin has already been hinting around that she might be interested if it comes to a brokered convention. Gotta love that.

Sarah Palin debating Barack Obama. The gods truly would smile.

She'd call in sick.

38 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:06:57pm

re: #35 Meh.

I don't know if there are any bubbles to burst at the moment to create that level of economic distress. I guess there are always gas prices...

There's the still present debt problems in the EU (Greece in particular), the bubble in China, student loan debts here in the US, gas prices, and who knows what else between now and then.

39 Four More Tears  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:07:00pm

The Problem? Women having sex.

Troglodyte being troglodytic...

40 Gus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:08:20pm
41 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:09:26pm

re: #34 Targetpractice

That really is the only scenario I see where the GOP wins by a significant margin, namely the economy imploding between now and November. It's not impossible, but it's also a bad thing to gamble an election on if you're running against an incumbent. What do you say if things don't get worse between now and then? "If I were in office, it would be even better"?

Another, more likely scenario is that Israel could also bite off more than it can chew in Iran and sees widespread missile bombardment and massive damage in Tel Aviv. Whether or not Obama overtly supports Israel's strike against Iran he'll be in big trouble, the military and left is tired of war and the right will hypocritically second guess every single move he makes, no matter how hawkish and in line with their stated foreign policy. Foreign support would erode, gas prices would jump again, significantly, and there will be few avenues down which Obama could maneuver. Bear in mind also that Afghanistan looks to be getting ready to explode without such a scenario adding even more fuel to that fire.

Overconfidence on the part of Obama's supporters is probably his worst enemy, many of us either don't want to or simply can't recognize how precarious his position is.

42 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:09:35pm

re: #40 Gus

Derp!

Image: Are_Gas_Prices_Something_the_president_can_fix_244.jpg

The "Drill Baby, Drill!" crowd still preaches as dogma that Dubya announcing the opening of more coastline area to drilling, even if the states involved quickly banned such drilling themselves, brought down oil prices.

43 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:11:21pm

re: #38 Targetpractice

There's the still present debt problems in the EU (Greece in particular), the bubble in China, student loan debts here in the US, gas prices, and who knows what else between now and then.

A massive act of terror on the US soil (hopefully not) would be close to a death blow.

44 Targetpractice  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:12:33pm

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

Another, more likely scenario is that Israel could also bite off more than it can chew in Iran and sees widespread missile bombardment and massive damage in Tel Aviv. Whether or not Obama overtly supports Israel's strike against Iran he'll be in big trouble, the military and left is tired of war and the right will hypocritically second guess every single move he makes, no matter how hawkish and in line with their stated foreign policy. Foreign support would erode, gas prices would jump again, significantly and there will be few avenues down which Obama can maneuver. Bear in mind also that Afghanistan looks to be getting ready to explode without such a scenario adding even more fuel to that fire.

Overconfidence on the part of Obama's supporters is probably his worst enemy, many of us either don't want to or simply can't recognize how precarious his position is.

Yeah, the foreign policy arena is another one that Obama could be hobbled. I don't like to think myself overconfident, but I guess it might sound this way as I watch the GOP flounder in trying to find something, anything, to grip onto as a winning campaign issue. Then again, I also have to remember that a lot of folks didn't expect McCain to have significant problems until the Great Recession reared its ugly head in October.

45 Gus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:14:55pm

re: #42 Targetpractice

The "Drill Baby, Drill!" crowd still preaches as dogma that Dubya announcing the opening of more coastline area to drilling, even if the states involved quickly banned such drilling themselves, brought down oil prices.

The rise in Brent crude is allegedly the result of the heated rhetoric regarding action against Iran. The two prime suspects in this matter are the Republican candidates for president and the Netanyahu administration.

46 Gus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:16:09pm

There's also good incentive for the oil industry to artificially inflate gasoline prices.

47 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:16:19pm

re: #25 mr.fusion

Whoever the GOP nominee is, they're going to start out with 46% of the vote due to ODS

So they're 5% short ... An easy win for Obama

48 Gus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:19:13pm

What can the president do? I have no idea. Oil consumption is growing exponentially in China and India. Long term this in itself is not sustainable. Any oil that we recover from within the USA would go into the same global marker -- as other have mentioned here before. Oil companies won't "voluntarily" do anything to keep prices down for gasoline. Oil will go to the highest bidder so to speak.

49 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:21:03pm

Obama could develop psychic powers, teleporting every scrap of uranium and plutonium out of Iran, North Korea and Pakistan, single handedly cure cancer and pay off the national debt by teaching himself to crap gold and the average Republican would still hate him and everything he stands for.

50 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:22:53pm

re: #9 ggt

I don't understand,

I don't care to understand.

Make them go away.

please

(please don't confuse me with King Who ever and "Who will ride me of this troublesome priest?"

I'm really just frustrated.

Happy to meet you Just Frustrated.

51 allegro  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:23:18pm

re: #39 Meh.

The Problem? Women having sex.

Troglodyte being troglodytic...

Does this numbnuts know how women get, yanno, pregnant?

52 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:24:23pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Sarah Palin has already been hinting around that she might be interested if it comes to a brokered convention. Gotta love that.

Sarah Palin debating Barack Obama. The gods truly would smile.

I think they'd be choking back hysterical laughter.

53 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:25:06pm

re: #22 mr.fusion

The scary thing is...she'd have a real chance at winning

Winning!!1!

54 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:26:04pm

re: #51 allegro

Does this numbnuts know how women get, yanno, pregnant?

They dropped the aspirin!

55 ProMayaLiberal  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:26:33pm

re: #51 allegro

It takes two. It's not a unilateral effort, so to speak.

56 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:28:54pm

re: #32 Lenin's Mummy

Economy tanks, Obama loses. You may call BS, but I also didn't think Santorum would be anywhere near Obama in the polls. Yet here we are.

Hasn't there been an effort by the GOP to ruin the economy this past year?

The days of a country having any real control of its own internal economy are gone.

57 Gus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:29:08pm

So can someone tell me how if "heated rhetoric" is leading to higher oil prices how electing someone like Romney who will only increase the "heated rhetoric" leading to continued higher oil prices? Or is the plan that he will magically lower prices by magically getting congress to approve domestic oil drilling while magically eliminating the EPA and regulations? Or is the plan to attack the Iranian nuke facilities which would lead to a magical stabilization of oil future?

58 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:30:22pm

re: #39 Meh.

The Problem? Women having sex.

Troglodyte being troglodytic...

I'm speechless. No really.

59 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:32:29pm

Science, according to Santorum.

60 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:34:10pm

re: #59 wrenchwench

Science, according to Santorum.

Sorry, too busy learning about phylum gastropoda, better known as "things if you stepped on, you would scream."

Oh, and drinking butterbeer. The Princess decided to try making some.

61 Gus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:34:30pm

Bush was president for 8 long years. He and his right hand man had deep pockets with the oil industry. Oil prices climbed throughout those years and the spike began soon after 9/11. Middle East wars and conflict leads to higher oil prices everywhere -- it doesn't matter where we pump for oil. Higher oil prices lead to higher gasoline prices and record profits. The oil companies love this and you won't see them complaining about higher gasoline prices. But again. Bush, a Republican and basically an oil guy, had no effect and oil prices went up. The only excuse was to blame Democrats in congress.

62 jamesfirecat  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:34:52pm

re: #59 wrenchwench

Science, according to Santorum.

Bah, Science has only made Our Unicorns 20% more awesome!

63 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:35:47pm

re: #60 To hold my temper, most of the time.

Sorry, too busy learning about phylum gastropoda, better known as "things if you stepped on, you would scream."

Oh, and drinking butterbeer. The Princess decided to try making some.

Two great tastes that must be great together!

Recipe?

64 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:36:44pm

re: #62 jamesfirecat

Bah, Science has only made Our Unicorns 20% more awesome!

My future scientist nephew is a brony. That's a good thing, right?

65 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:36:51pm

re: #63 wrenchwench

Two great tastes that must be great together!

Recipe?

It involves heavy whipping cream and cream soda. Butterscotch gets involved somehow.

66 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:37:46pm

re: #65 To hold my temper, most of the time.

It involves heavy whipping cream and cream soda. Butterscotch gets involved somehow.

I'll experiment!

67 Kragar  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:38:22pm

What war on women?

N.C. County Kills Family-Planning Funds

The Wilmington, N.C. Star-News reports the commission in the coastal county has “unanimously voted to turn down a state family planning grant that would cover contraceptive supplies along with other medical services related to family planning.”

The commissioners didn’t think it was right to use taxpayer money to pay for women who want to have sex for non-procreative purposes.

From the Star-News:

Chairman Ted Davis said he thought it was a sad day when “taxpayers are asked to pay money for contraceptives” for women having sex without planning responsibly.

“If these young women are being responsible and didn’t have the sex to begin with, we wouldn’t have this problem to begin with,” Davis said.

68 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:38:34pm

re: #60 To hold my temper, most of the time.

Sorry, too busy learning about phylum gastropoda, better known as "things if you stepped on, you would scream."

Oh, and drinking butterbeer. The Princess decided to try making some.

I think that's a Class.

It's in the same class as Butter Scotch and Rum & Butter.

69 Gus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:40:01pm

History of trouble at shooting suspect's base

• Four soldiers from Lewis-McChord were convicted in the 2010 thrill killings of three Afghan civilians.

• In January, a 24-year-old Iraq war veteran from here murdered a Park Ranger on Mt. Rainier.

• Since 2010, 26 Lewis-McChord soldiers have committed suicide.

• "A lot of soldiers give up and we have cases of domestic violence and suicide.

• Last month the head of the base medical center was placed on administrative leave for reversing the diagnoses of 285 soldiers who were told they had Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.

70 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:45:56pm

re: #69 Gus

History of trouble at shooting suspect's base

A pattern emerges.
Time to investigate every thing about that base.

71 Stanghazi  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:46:18pm

Remember that old email about the Muslims on a flight out of Atlanta? Well, it's making the rounds with my uneducated friends again.

Interesting timing eh?

72 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:48:11pm

re: #69 Gus

History of trouble at shooting suspect's base

They don't mention John Allen Muhammad.

We know that John Allen Muhammad, nee Williams, is a Gulf War veteran, formerly stationed at Fort Lewis in Washington State.

73 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:49:01pm

re: #72 wrenchwench

They don't mention John Allen Muhammad.

Yikes.
Something in the water.
Or command staff.
???

74 McSpiff  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:52:31pm

re: #73 Varek Raith

Yikes.
Something in the water.
Or command staff.
???

Or doing 4-7 combat tours...

75 steve_davis  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:53:14pm

re: #1 Kragar

TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES!!!
TWO MEN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVES!!!

Mitt Romney enters, with Ron Paul riding on his shoulders.....

76 Gus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:53:38pm

Another thing they don't consider. Say you completely stop buying OPEC oil. Guess what? Sooner or later they stop ordering Boeing aircraft.

77 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:54:46pm

re: #76 Gus

Another thing they don't consider. Say you completely stop buying OPEC oil. Guess what? Sooner or later they stop ordering Boeing aircraft.

Trade wars.
How do the fucking work?

78 Decatur Deb  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:54:48pm

re: #73 Varek Raith

Yikes.
Something in the water.
Or command staff.
???

Lewis is base for one of the first Stryker vehicle brigade combat teams. That makes them a heavy lifter in the SWA wars.

79 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:55:52pm

re: #78 Decatur Deb

Lewis is base for one of the first Stryker vehicle brigade combat teams. That makes them a heavy lifter in the SWA wars.

Ah, now I'm getting a clearer picture of that base.

80 austin_blue  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:55:57pm

He wants a brokered convention!

Which is why Newtie and Luap Nor must unite with Torquemada In A Sweater Vest and Stay The Course!

81 ProMayaLiberal  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:57:10pm

re: #69 Gus

It's like a nexus of awful. The base needs a closer look.

82 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:57:37pm

re: #69 Gus

History of trouble at shooting suspect's base

Has he been identified? I can't find anything anywhere.

83 Stanghazi  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:57:54pm

re: #82 Blue Spot Vlamingii Tang

Has he been identified? I can't find anything anywhere.

Not that I've seen.

84 Kragar  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:59:04pm

So much for our military collapsing the way the Right Wingers were praying it would.

POLL: DADT Repeal Has ‘No Effect’ On Sixty-Nine Percent Of Troops

Six months after the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell took effect, a new survey shows that 69 percent of members of the armed forces feel that it has had “no effect” on their units, compared to the 59 percent who expected it not to. Additionally, the number of troops who have actually seen a “negative impact” is only 13 percent, lower than the 15 percent expectation. Asked what effect someone’s coming out might have on their unit, 73 percent said there would be “no impact,” with five percent even reporting there would be a “positive impact.”

85 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 4:59:53pm

re: #84 Kragar

So much for our military collapsing the way the Right Wingers were praying it would.

POLL: DADT Repeal Has ‘No Effect’ On Sixty-Nine Percent Of Troops

69%!

86 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:00:06pm

re: #85 wrenchwench

69%!

Damn, beat me.

87 Gus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:00:21pm

re: #77 Varek Raith

Trade wars.
How do the fucking work?

Doesn't even have to be a trade war. If we stopped buying Arab oil for example we'd effectively kill their GDP. We pay them for oil they buy our stuff:

Top 10 US Exports to Saudi Arabia

America’s exports to Saudi Arabia amounted to
$12.5 billion or 0.97% of overall US exports.

1. Passenger cars … $3.3 billion
2. Industrial engines … $1.1 billion
3. Oilfield equipment … $540.6 million
4. Other industrial machines … $523.5 million
5. Electric apparatus … $330 million
6. Civilian aircraft … $315.4 million
7. Excavating machinery … $308.3 million
8. Military parts … $292.6 million
9. Other chemicals … $266.4 million
10. Generators … $244.7 million

Source

Census report exports at $13,819,521,000.

88 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:01:06pm

re: #87 Gus

Doesn't even have to be a trade war. If we stopped buying Arab oil for example we'd effectively kill their GDP. We pay them for oil they buy our stuff:

Source

Census report exports at $13,819,521,000.

LIES

89 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:01:20pm

re: #82 Blue Spot Vlamingii Tang

Has he been identified? I can't find anything anywhere.

Probably not wise to identify him until his wife and family can be placed in protective custody or given whole new identities.

90 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:01:51pm

re: #86 Varek Raith

Damn, beat me.

My typing fingers have warmed up.

I'm still having trouble composing a grammatically correct sentence, however. But a number I can handle. And a % thingy.

91 Gus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:02:40pm

re: #88 Varek Raith

LIES

Indeed! You can add them all up here:

[Link: www.census.gov...]

Hope they like losing their bases in the region too. That is if they want to put an economic stranglehold on them. Bahrain would be lost. Political uncertainty would be rampant. I would even venture that it would lead to greater political mayhem in the region.

92 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:03:24pm

re: #91 Gus

Indeed! You can add them all up here:

[Link: www.census.gov...]

Hope they like losing their bases in the region too. That is if they want to put an economic stranglehold on them. Bahrain would be lost. Political uncertainty would be rampant. I would even venture that it would lead to greater political mayhem in the region.

Long term thinking is for libs!
FREEEEEEDDDDDOOOOMMMMM

93 austin_blue  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:04:50pm

re: #87 Gus

Doesn't even have to be a trade war. If we stopped buying Arab oil for example we'd effectively kill their GDP. We pay them for oil they buy our stuff:

Source

Census report exports at $13,819,521,000.

Yeah, but commodities are commodities. If we don't buy it, China and Japan will.

Oh, and by the way, The Tiny Kingdom is the largest importer per capita of Tabasco cause in the world. Blame ARAMCO.

94 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:05:00pm

re: #90 wrenchwench

My typing fingers have warmed up.

I'm still having trouble composing a grammatically correct sentence, however. But a number I can handle. And a % thingy.

How did you warm them up?

95 Gus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:06:07pm

re: #93 austin_blue

Yeah, but commodities are commodities. If we don't buy it, Chana and Japan will.

Oh, and by the way, The Tiny Kingdom is the largest importer per capita of Tabasco cause in the world. Blame ARAMCO.

True, but China will only buy as much as it needs and that wouldn't "take up the slack" from a lost market.

96 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:07:28pm

re: #83 Stanley Sea for a while, till someone screws up

Not that I've seen.

The article said the family had been moved on base. I figured that must mean people know.

97 Gus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:09:35pm
98 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:10:30pm

re: #94 b_sharp

How did you warm them up?

By typing, oddly enough.

99 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:11:02pm

re: #97 Gus

Now plants are people too.//

100 BongCrodny  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:11:06pm

re: #97 Gus

To be fair, Rick Santorum is a plant.

101 b_sharp  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:11:53pm

re: #98 wrenchwench

By typing, oddly enough.

That's not how I warm my fingers up.

102 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:12:28pm

re: #101 b_sharp

That's not how I warm my fingers up.

I do not want to know.

103 Gus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:12:31pm

re: #100 BongCrodny

To be fair, Rick Santorum is a plant.

A potted plant.

104 Kragar  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:12:37pm

re: #97 Gus

Unfuckingbelievable.

Someone should tell Santorum to try breathing pure Oxygen for a bit, since its so good for us humans.

105 Achilles Tang  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:13:07pm

re: #100 BongCrodny

To be fair, Rick Santorum is a plant.

No, he's a mole; planted by theocrats.

106 austin_blue  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:15:33pm

re: #95 Gus

True, but China will only buy as much as it needs and that wouldn't "take up the slack" from a lost market.

Well here's some data:


[Link: www.eia.gov...]

Which sounds like a lot until you read this:

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

So they had no problem selling an additional 2 MB/D in January, which is more than we buy monthly. No way that we could, individually, hammer them economically.

107 Lidane  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:18:16pm

OT, but I just got home from SXSW and I had the privilege of seeing a joint conversation with Sean Parker and Al Gore. Very, very cool.

I'm sure there will be write-ups about the session since the first question came from an editor over at ThinkProgress and there was a fair bit of media up front, but the main point was in leveraging social media to enhance the political process. They talked a lot about finding ways of informing voters and in combating moneyed interests and propaganda by using the internet and viral campaigns.

Al Gore is every bit the fiery, emotional speaker in person that he is in television interviews. Oh, how I wish he'd been that guy during the 2000 election.

108 Kragar  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:18:34pm
109 Gus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:18:52pm

re: #106 austin_blue

Well here's some data:

[Link: www.eia.gov...]

Which sounds like a lot until you read this:

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

So they had no problem selling an additional 2 MB/D in January, which is more than we buy monthly. No way that we could, individually, hammer them economically.

I didn't mean Saudi Arabia alone. I just used them as an example. I meant if we added them all up and decided to become completely independent from all foreign oil. Save maybe Canada. More importantly all OPEC nations and others. Abiding by this idea of "drill here and rill now."

110 BongCrodny  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:21:46pm

re: #103 Gus

A potted plant.

A creeping phlox.

111 SpaceJesus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:22:09pm

Mississippi, doing what it does I guess

112 Gus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:22:34pm

re: #110 BongCrodny

A creeping phlox.

A poison oak.

113 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:22:38pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Sarah Palin has already been hinting around that she might be interested if it comes to a brokered convention. Gotta love that.

Sarah Palin debating Barack Obama. The gods truly would smile.

I hope he doesn't kid glove her like Biden did. She wasn't torn apart because they didn't want people feeling sorry for her.

114 Lidane  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:24:55pm

re: #113 Wozza Matter?

I hope he doesn't kid glove her like Biden did. She wasn't torn apart because they didn't want people feeling sorry for her.

If Biden had gone after her in 2008, it would have made her a martyr.

If she ends up the GOP nominee after a brokered convention, however, Barack Obama has every right to get tough in debates, especially if she was to start with her gibberish about him being an inexperienced unknown after having been POTUS for almost four years.

115 BongCrodny  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:25:07pm

re: #112 Gus

A poison oak.

A resurrection fern.

116 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:25:36pm

re: #112 Gus

A poison oak.

A fiddlehead fern.

117 Obdicut  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:25:51pm

re: #114 Lidane

It's not going to be Palin. Even the GOP isn't that broken.

118 wrenchwench  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:26:27pm

re: #115 BongCrodny

A resurrection fern.

Yours is better. I just liked the sound of 'fiddlehead'.

119 Lidane  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:26:52pm

re: #117 Obdicut

Oh, I know. Or at least I damn well hope I know.

I'd like to believe they're not that broken, but given the current state of their primaries, I'm not so sure.

121 Gus  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:28:08pm

Of course AGW isn't about CO2 poisoning either.

122 BongCrodny  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:30:05pm

re: #118 wrenchwench

Yours is better. I just liked the sound of 'fiddlehead'.

I'm learning waaaay more about weird plant names than I ever wanted to.

123 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 5:57:27pm

Sorry, but Santorum can only dream of forcing a brokered convention. The math works against any kind of brokered convention. He's not getting 50% of the vote, let alone the 60 he'd need to force a delegate fight at the convention.

Romney will be the nominee and all Santorum is doing is removing all doubt about just how crummy a human being he really is. His comments about NYC are absolutely bottom of the barrel - not surprising since he's trying to court flyover country.

124 Robert O.  Mon, Mar 12, 2012 7:43:09pm

Let them go for it! Democrats should not discourage Republicans from fighting to the bitter end. The longer this going on, the more acrimonious the food fight, the better it is for the country. With the GOP hatefest in disarray, President Obama and his cabinet can have one less problem to worry about while they govern the country. Democrats can quietly build the platform for reclaiming both Houses of Congress. And when the inevitable retirement occurs in SCOTUS, President Obama gets to name new Justices who can stop activist conservative judges from giving us any more decision like Citizens United.


This article has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2023-04-04 11:11 am PDT
LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!Register and sign in to a free LGF account before subscribing, and your ad-free access will be automatically enabled.

Donate with
PayPal
Cash.app
Recent PagesClick to refresh
Best of April 2024 Nothing new here but these are a look back at the a few good images from the past month. Despite the weather, I was quite pleased with several of them. These were taken with older lenses (made from the ...
William Lewis
Yesterday
Views: 136 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 4
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
Cheechako
3 weeks ago
Views: 395 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1