Mitt Romney parroted his standard right wing positions to the NAACP convention today, promising to get rid of the Affordable Care Act, and was booed by the audience several times.
After one of the most blatantly race-baiting Republican primary campaigns we’ve ever seen, is anyone surprised by this? People can tell when they’re being patronized by a liar.
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Kragar Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:49:14am |
Rush said this just showed how brave Romney was, and that it was brilliant because Romney just spoke over their heads to get his real message out.
Right.
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alinuxguru Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:53:22am |
re: #1 Kragar
The tea party is already chumming their right wing base waters. They are now tweeting incessantly about how the NAACP may or may not have required people to show two forms of ID to see Eric Holder. *THIS* is clearly hypocritical of them denying people the right to see Holder and is *exactly* the same thing as a Constitutional Right.
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Bulworth Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:54:33am |
Too bad there apparently was no opportunity for conversation here. As in, “Governor, when you say you will act to repeal ‘Obamacare’, do you realize you would be making millions of workers and families uninsured once again?”
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Kragar Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:56:52am |
re: #4 Bulworth
Too bad there apparently was no opportunity for conversation here. As in, “Governor, when you say you will act to repeal ‘Obamacare’, do you realize you would be making millions of workers and families uninsured once again?”
Thats not a bug, its a feature.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:57:44am |
The fact is Mitt Romney isn’t trying to get Black Votes right now. He’s trying to show White folks “SEE! I TRIED!” #mittNAACP— Elon James White (@elonjames) July 11, 2012
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:58:24am |
re: #3 Lidane
Related:
NAACP Reacts To Mitt Romney: ‘Patronizing,’ ‘Totally Disconnected,’ ‘A Serious Misjudgment’
They just described Mitt Romney to a tee.
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lawhawk Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:59:02am |
The GOP will take what it wants out of the appearance - talking points that it already had concluded would happen, plus the belief that the GOP is simply superior to those in attendance at the NAACP - in terms of economic and social outlook.
It simply ignores that for all the talk of Romney and the GOP wanting to repeal the PPACA (Obamacare), the individual mandate was a GOP policy that it sought for the better part of two decades until Obama got it enacted. Now, the GOP hollers that it is: 1) unconstitutional (therefore assuming the position of trying to claim their very policies they sought to be enacted were unconstitutional); 2) wants to repeal the entirety of the act despite most people recognizing that it’s beneficial to them and would bring 30 more people access to insurance; and 3) Romney’s version was the base for the PPACA.
No one following the health care debate can argue with those two salient facts (though they will try), or the fact that Obama used one of McCain’s own ideas from the 2008 campaign in his health care plan:
Only in America could a Democratic president pass Mitt Romney’s health plan and fund it partly through John McCain’s best idea from the last campaign (taxing some employer provided plans) and be branded a “socialist.”
Instead, we’ve got GOPers claiming that they’ll have nothing to do with the PPACA - such as Perry in Texas, which has among the highest rates of uninsureds in the nation (nearly 25% uninsureds).
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gwangung Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:59:15am |
re: #6 Charles Johnson
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Only really stupid white people would be taken in by that.
Hm. A lot of those out there….
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:00:11am |
It’s hopeless really what the NAACP say. I’ve known many a right winger who see them as a black version of the KKK. Yeah, I know it’s insane.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:01:06am |
re: #6 Charles Johnson
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Ayep, they’re gonna play it up as “He tried to ‘open a dialogue,” or some such bullshit.
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EastSider Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:02:02am |
I’ve heard this pitch now a few times, that “the economy is bad for everyone” and then a run of demographic specific stats on how bad African Americans/college students/Latinos etc have had it “under” Obama. It has to be the thinnest tripe I’ve ever heard.
Let’s accept the premise anyway:
1) The economy was bad because of Bush-era policies. Most of the proposals today from the right are to re-instate or expand upon these policies, and I have not seen any credible reason for why they would work this time. (It reminds me of the “communism has never been tried in its ideal form” canard).
2) Republicans have spent the last 4 years fighting everything the President has tried to do. Much of that was programs designed to help the economy. If we’re really blaming Obama for the economy (and really, it boils down to him not fixing the economy fast enough, apparently), you have to look at the Republicans who have blocked most of the efforts to spur growth (and then took credit for programs where they did work).
3) Where republicans have taken power, they have not focused on the economy. They have pushed extreme social legislation that reflects positions of the power-holding far right.
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GunstarGreen Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:05:37am |
Standing in front of a crowd of people that directly benefit from the PPACA and giving a speech about how you intend to dismantle the PPACA is a pretty silly idea.
So of course it will be hailed as a heroic attempt to “cross the aisle” or whatever the “bipartisan” buzzword of the day is.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:07:21am |
Here’s what will happen. Fox News will play clips of Romney being booed and ignore the fact that Romney in fact got a standing ovation upon his entrance. The Fox pundits, Hannity, Bret Baier, etc will all use the booing to tell their moronic audience that the NAACP are nothing but water-carriers for the left and they will whine about black voters voting Democratic and use the tired line about how Lincoln was a Republican and how the Democrats were the racist party. The former of course is true but ignores the fact that the Republican party and the right went out of their way to alienate minority voters the second Nixon decided to embrace Strom Thurmond and the old segregationists. whom had been alienated by the Democratic Party’s moves to the left on race during the Kennedy and especially Johnson years.
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allegro Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:08:05am |
This is rather like giving a speech to an atheist conference and focusing on “teaching the controversy” and bringing back school prayer. Out of touch? Oh yes.
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Randall Gross Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:08:13am |
I’m betting that some of the same GOP diehards who were saying “Right on Joe!” during the “You LIE!” interruption of the State of the Union address will wax wroth about about this.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:11:28am |
Think the last paragraph of this article says it best:
Romney Shouts Out Black Leaders In NAACP Speech, But Avoids Key Issues
Political observers on both sides of the aisle said Romney’s speech to the NAACP was likely more about convincing white suburban voters that he’s not racist than it was about actually reaching across the deep political divide that separates most of the black electorate from the Republican Party. But Romney seemed to make an effort — while still making clear why the divide exists in the first place.
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EastSider Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:12:22am |
The math is straightforward for this election.
Vote difference between candidates A and B = the following:
A’s base * (% of A’s base turning out)
B’s base * (% of B’s base turning out)
Swing Votes * (% of swing votes you win)
2012 will be a base/turnout election. This isn’t going to win Romney any swing votes, it’s not going to push down Obama’s turnout, but it is a sellable, sound-bitable clip of red meat that will help turn out the far right.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:13:21am |
I see he didn’t even bring up voting rights which is a big issue to the NAACP. Romney’s a buffoon. He as the one member said is totally out of touch with average Americans. I still remember his “advice” to students not doing well in school. “Borrow 20 grand from your parents and start your own business.” The moron should be grateful that Obama hatred is rampant enough for him to have a shot at being president.
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:13:23am |
Worst nightmare: Some rickety powder keg will go off in the Middle East, gas prices will shoot up, the brainless masses will blame Obama, and Mitt will win.
Actually, there are two ways agitators of the brainless can exploit this: Blame Obama directly for gas prices (something over which he has very limited control), or accuse him of instigating the ME crisis in a “wag the dog” scenario. Of course, even if he were utterly evil and manipulative he would not start a war simply to commit political suicide. The target audience isn’t known for its cool analytical abilities however.
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Randall Gross Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:14:57am |
Some WaPo analysis - contrasting Romney’s speech and approach with McCain’s speech and approach.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com…]
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Kragar Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:14:57am |
The entire purpose of this speech was so the Right could say “Romney went to speak in front of the NAACP, so why won’t Obama come speak in front of the Tea Party/NRA/Evangelicals?”
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:16:53am |
re: #22 Kragar
The entire purpose of this speech was so the Right could say “Romney went to speak in front of the NAACP, so why won’t Obama come speak in front of the Tea Party/NRA/Evangelicals?”
Or why can’t there be a NAAWP or if they know that David Duke started a group with that name equate the two.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:18:57am |
re: #20 Shiplord Kirel
Worst nightmare: Some rickety powder keg will go off in the Middle East, gas prices will shoot up, the brainless masses will blame Obama, and Mitt will win.
Actually, there are two ways agitators of the brainless can exploit this: Blame Obama directly for gas prices (something over which he has very limited control), or accuse him of instigating the ME crisis in a “wag the dog” scenario. Of course, even if he were utterly evil and manipulative he would not start a war simply to commit political suicide. The target audience isn’t known for its cool analytical abilities however.
But, but, if there’s a war, or war situation brewing, you don’t want to change your leadership right at the brink of dealing with it! At least if that leader is a REPUBLICAN.
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Kronocide Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:19:16am |
Any NAAWP would have to campaign against Fox News, which is holding white people (and the rest of us) back.
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nines09 Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:20:15am |
re: #1 Kragar
Rush said this just showed how brave Romney was, and that it was brilliant because Romney just spoke over their heads to get his real message out.
Right.
Rush could blow chunks live on air and his listeners would agree. In fact I think he does that daily. I’ll give credit to the people in that room. They know bull shit when they hear it and a hack when they see one.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:22:47am |
I am amused to hear Romney complaining about Obama running a negative campaign. Has Mitt forgotten that he’s claimed that Obama pretty much never has had a real job because he’s spent much of his career in the public sector or that he continues to tout Donald Trump as a fundraiser. I think Mitt Romney is the kind of guy who thinks the rules should apply to everyone but him. His actions this campaign and throughout his life show him to be that kind of person.
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:23:06am |
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Kragar Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:25:26am |
AFA’s Buster Wilson Warns of ‘Pagan’ Rule, Reveals Membership in ‘Oath Keepers’
Wilson said he is a membership in the extremist group Oath Keepers and broadcasted the group’s ten conspiratorial “Orders We Will Not Obey,” based on warnings of potential concentration camps, looming dictatorships and foreign militaries in America. “For instance, I will not ever obey a law to help encamp Tupelo as a concentration camp, I will never obey a law as a law enforcement officer to take away your firearms, I will never obey a to do anything to take away your constitutional rights, I’m an oath keeper,” Wilson said:
Despite its benign language of defending and guarding the Constitution, Oath Keepers is actually a fringe group which has had a number of its local leaders arrested for various crimes and whose own founder backed the creation of militia groups and an alternative economy to “resist what the globalists have in store for us.”
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bratwurst Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:26:12am |
BREAKING: 7 dead after creating drinking game where they took a shot every time Fox News said “those people” while covering Romney at #NAACP— Top Conservative Cat (@TeaPartyCat) July 11, 2012
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:26:17am |
re: #28 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
Which comes as a surprise to absolutely no one, if you listen to Rush’s belching as mentioned by Kragar above. This wasn’t Romney going to the NAACP and trying to win their vote, it was him making a stock speech to an audience of black people to claim that he’s an “inclusive president.”
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dragonfire1981 Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:29:05am |
re: #28 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
You’re not supposed to come out and say it you fools!
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HappyWarrior Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:29:42am |
re: #29 Kragar
AFA’s Buster Wilson Warns of ‘Pagan’ Rule, Reveals Membership in ‘Oath Keepers’
I wish they’d pick a narrative and stay with it. Either we’re having Shariah, mass secularism, or pagan rule. It can’t be all three at the same time. Oh and the Oathkeepers are a bunch of paranoid nutsos. “Won’t obay a law to encamp Tupelo into a concentration camp.” And these are the same people who dismissed anyone who criticized Bush’s policies as being anti American. Double standard dummies.
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dragonfire1981 Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:30:05am |
re: #22 Kragar
The entire purpose of this speech was so the Right could say “Romney went to speak in front of the NAACP, so why won’t Obama come speak in front of the Tea Party/NRA/Evangelicals?”
“And now the Tea Party Patriots of Texas present President Barack Obama!”
*sound of guns cocking*
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iossarian Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:30:18am |
re: #28 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance
Here’s a tip. If you want your guy to look like he can be “President of the entire United States”, then try to have him not look like he’s deliberately being a dick to his hosts.
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jaunte Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:31:33am |
“You just can’t satisfy those people, and oh how I’ve tried!”
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dragonfire1981 Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:31:42am |
re: #33 HappyWarrior
I wish they’d pick a narrative and stay with it. Either we’re having Shariah, mass secularism, or pagan rule. It can’t be all three at the same time. Oh and the Oathkeepers are a bunch of paranoid nutsos. “Won’t obay a law to encamp Tupelo into a concentration camp.” And these are the same people who dismissed anyone who criticized Bush’s policies as being anti American. Double standard dummies.
Remember, ANYTHING non-Christian equals Pagan. Islam, Buddhism, Shintoism, Atheism and of course Paganism is ALL represented under the umbrella of “Pagan”. Simple rule is: If Jesus has nothing to do with it it’s secular/pagan.
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Kragar Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:31:49am |
re: #33 HappyWarrior
I wish they’d pick a narrative and stay with it. Either we’re having Shariah, mass secularism, or pagan rule. It can’t be all three at the same time. Oh and the Oathkeepers are a bunch of paranoid nutsos. “Won’t obay a law to encamp Tupelo into a concentration camp.” And these are the same people who dismissed anyone who criticized Bush’s policies as being anti American. Double standard dummies.
Homosexual Pagan Sharia is the most dangerous form of Sharia.
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GunstarGreen Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:33:16am |
re: #33 HappyWarrior
I wish they’d pick a narrative and stay with it. Either we’re having Shariah, mass secularism, or pagan rule. It can’t be all three at the same time. Oh and the Oathkeepers are a bunch of paranoid nutsos. “Won’t obay a law to encamp Tupelo into a concentration camp.” And these are the same people who dismissed anyone who criticized Bush’s policies as being anti American. Double standard dummies.
They have a single narrative; it is that “Things That Are Not Christian Rule” are coming to usurp our Christian Nation.
What exactly those non-Christian things are is unimportant and varies from moment to moment, the salient point is that it is not God’s Law in God’s Country, thus horrible things will happen when we lose God’s Favor.
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Kronocide Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:34:20am |
re: #38 Kragar
Homosexual Pagan Sharia is the most dangerous form of Sharia.
Get Commie in there, DONE.
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TedStriker Wed, Jul 11, 2012 12:43:44pm |
re: #6 Charles Johnson
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Pretty much…at this point, any politicking or pandering Romney is doing with any groups that do not mainly consist of white males (the more affluent, the better) is just for show.
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TedStriker Wed, Jul 11, 2012 12:49:27pm |
re: #22 Kragar
The entire purpose of this speech was so the Right could say “Romney went to speak in front of the NAACP, so why won’t Obama come speak in front of the Tea Party/NRA/Evangelicals?”
re: #34 dragonfire1981
“And now the Tea Party Patriots of Texas present President Barack Obama!”
*sound of guns cocking*
The reception that President Obama would get from some of those groups would rival or surpass Bart’s arrival in Rock Ridge in Blazing Saddles.
I think that President Obama could channel Cleavon Little in that situation very well…
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jul 11, 2012 2:03:51pm |
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Usually refered to as anyways Wed, Jul 11, 2012 2:05:22pm |
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Mozort Wed, Jul 11, 2012 2:28:44pm |
My bad, it’s actually a Bulworth.
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Patricia Kayden Wed, Jul 11, 2012 3:01:55pm |
That NAACP audience was much nicer/civil to Romney than a crowd of T’Baggers would be to President Obama.
I’m sure that Romney loved the booing since it played into his theme that he as a mega-millions rich dude, he knows what’s right for the poor Negroes. At one point in his speech, he actually said, “If you want a president who will make things better in the African-American community, you are looking at him.” I’d really like to hear the details of how he’s going to “make things better” for any community.
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labman57 Wed, Jul 11, 2012 5:31:45pm |
Mitt’s definition of “nonessential program” — any federal program which does not directly benefit major corporations or the ultra-wealthy.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:39:20pm |
re: #37 dragonfire1981
Remember, ANYTHING non-Christian equals Pagan. Islam, Buddhism, Shintoism, Atheism and of course Paganism is ALL represented under the umbrella of “Pagan”. Simple rule is: If Jesus has nothing to do with it it’s secular/pagan.
Jabberwock actually explains this fairly well about Chick Tracts, and Slacktivist about the Left Behind Books. There is no such thing in this world as various religious beliefs or lack thereof, there is only acceptance of Evangelical Christianity, Wingnut Variant, ie, The Truth, or deliberate cold-blooded rejection of it. All of those who reject it are part of the same conspiracy against God.
Chick is quite interesting in this regard. He does ‘historical’ tracts that identify Catholicism, Islam, New Age groups, Satanists and atheists as all essentially being the same group—goddess worshipers who adore Semiramis.
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