Most Americans Against Defunding Obamacare: Survey

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A solid majority of Americans oppose defunding the new health care law if it means shutting down the government and defaulting on debt.

The CNBC All-America Economic Survey of 800 people across the country conducted by Hart-McInturff, finds that, in general, Americans oppose defunding Obamacare by a plurality of 44 percent to 38 percent.

Opposition to defunding increases sharply when the issue of shutting down the government and defaulting is included. In that case, Americans oppose defunding 59 percent to 19 percent, with 18 percent of respondents unsure. The final 4 percent is a group of people who want to defund Obamacare, but become unsure when asked if they still hold that view if it means shutting down the government.

The Republican-party-led House voted 230-189 on Friday to adopt a short-term government spending bill that would eliminate all funding for the new health care law. The measure could lead to a government shutdown in less than two weeks. The poll, which has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.4 percent, was conducted Monday through Thursday of last week. Full results will be released this Thursday.

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42 comments
1 missliberties  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 7:07:27am

Most Americans don’t have a clue what Obamacare is.

This ‘poll’ should be taken with a huge grain of salt.

The hypocritical GOP is getting people to sign up for it in their states, pretending that it is their initiative.

Here is a document from Texas informing you of how to sign up for evil Obamacare. Does Ted Cruz know about this?

2 Dr. Matt  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:01:24am

Another GOP talking point debunked. Dead Intern Scarborough was ranting on-and-on this morning that not a single poll supported Obamacare.

3 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:02:19am

What the flying fuck:

Piers Morgan offered $1 million to survive 1,000 vaccine shots

I’m not linking to infowars, but it’s an Alex Jones thing.

4 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:03:48am

lolwut

5 Dr. Matt  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:04:57am

re: #3 Carlos Danger

What the flying fuck:

Piers Morgan offered $1 million to survive 1,000 vaccine shots

I’m not linking to infowars, it’s an Alex Jones thing.

Must be the stupidest offer ever from the already dense teatards.

6 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:04:58am

Can’t wait for the GOP/TP to claim that the polls were skewed.

Never mind that when you drill down to the actual programs provided by Obamacare, the support increases. Whether it’s eliminating restrictions for preexisting conditions or providing insurance to dependents through age 26, there’s support for individual parts of the program, but lumped together the GOP has done a masterful job in smearing the program as the second coming of communism/socialism/Obamaism.

States that signed on to do their own exchanges have either embraced the Obamacare program or purposefully chosen language that avoids the linkage all together. States like PA and NJ will take the Obamacare money for the exchanges, but just don’t call their state exchanges Obamacare.

That’s fine by me - the people in those states get the exchanges set up by the states, and they get access to health insurance they otherwise wouldn’t have been able to avoid. The GOP hypocrisy on this will continue to mount, and no one will call them on it (Chuck Todd, is that you?)

7 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:05:01am

Do the wingnuts believe that the United States will be declared a part of the re-formed Soviet Union under President Putin?

Oh wait, that’s what they want!

8 Lidane  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:10:58am

re: #4 Vicious Babushka

Obummer will turn us into the People’s Republic of Muslimistan and force Christians to convert to Islam!

//////

9 Stanley Sea  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:11:11am

In comparison, what was the fight against the new deal like? Similar?

10 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:13:47am
11 Lidane  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:17:58am

re: #3 Carlos Danger

How many people get 1,000 vaccine shots in their lifetime?

12 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:20:39am

re: #9 Stanley Sea

In comparison, what was the fight against the new deal like? Similar?

A coalition of conservative democrats and pro-business republicans managed to defang most of the New Deal after the war started.

Let’s hope “Obamacare” isn’t a shell in 10 years time.

13 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:20:53am

re: #11 Lidane

How many people get 1,000 vaccine shots in their lifetime?

Piers should agree to the challenge as long as Alex Jones will agree to be shot with 1,000 bullets.

14 Stanley Sea  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:24:21am

re: #12 Carlos Danger

A coalition of conservative democrats and pro-business republicans managed to defang most of the New Deal after the war started.

Let’s hope “Obamacare” isn’t a shell in 10 years time.

Well they didn’t get rid of Medicare.

15 b.d.  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:25:17am

re: #3 Carlos Danger

What the flying fuck:

Piers Morgan offered $1 million to survive 1,000 vaccine shots

I’m not linking to infowars, but it’s an Alex Jones thing.

1,000 glasses of water is enough to kill in one sitting

16 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:25:41am

re: #14 Stanley Sea

Well you can always count on angry old people

17 peguyjaures  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:26:31am

re: #13 Vicious Babushka

Drink one glass of water and you should be fine. But try to drink 1000 glasses in a row and you’ll be in trouble. Water is dangerous.

Ban water!

18 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:26:35am

re: #12 Carlos Danger

A coalition of conservative democrats and pro-business republicans managed to defang most of the New Deal after the war started.

The War was a massive government make-work program, kinda made most of the New Deal redundant.

19 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:27:17am

re: #16 Carlos Danger

Well you can always count on angry old people

But you can’t count on the way we’ll swing.

20 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:27:18am

re: #15 b.d.

1,000 glasses of water is enough to kill in one sitting

Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide!

21 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:28:30am

re: #17 peguyjaures

Drink one glass of water and you should be fine. But try to drink 1000 glasses in a row and you’ll be in trouble. Water is dangerous.

Ban water!

Army medical support used to use the term “hydrocution” to describe overdosing in the desert.

22 b.d.  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:29:34am

re: #4 Vicious Babushka
hahaha, who is this Einstein?


23 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:30:22am

re: #15 b.d.

Toxicity is in the dose. For most materials, there is a threshold above which the substance becomes toxic.

But these numbnuts would use that maxim to “prove” that vaccines aren’t safe.

24 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:30:27am
25 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:31:19am

Found this is a 50s history book:

To lessen the dependance of the New Deal domestic and foreign program on conservative Democrats (alienated from the administration over such issues as the Fair Labor Standard Act, the Anti-Lynching Bill [defeated by a Southern filibuster] and appropriations to the Farm Security Admistration), President Roosevelt decided to participate actively in the Democratic primary campaign…

You can just see the Southern Strategy forming right there. So did Robert Taft.

26 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:32:24am

re: #23 lawhawk

Toxicity is in the dose. For most materials, there is a threshold above which the substance becomes toxic.

But these numbnuts would use that maxim to “prove” that vaccines aren’t safe.

Because that would involve science, which they do not believe in when it bucks up against their ideology.

27 Kragar  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:33:42am

Peter LaBarbera Takes On Pope Francis, Claims ‘Satan’s Earthly Minions’ Use Homosexuality To Undermine Catholic Church

Americans For Truth About Homosexuality head Peter LaBarbera is none too pleased with new comments on homosexuality made by Pope Francis, writing that a fear he “and many like-minded pro-family advocates share (including several Catholic friends with whom I’ve spoken) is that the pope is naive about the aggressive homosexualist agenda.”

According to LaBarbera, “Satan’s earthly minions” concocted a plan to bring gay men into the priesthood so they can “seduce and molest” boys in order to discredit and weaken the Church’s authority to condemn homosexuality. LaBarbera now fears that the Pope is giving ammunition to “pro-homosexuality and pro-abortion militants” to further their goal of bringing “corruption and destruction to many institutions.”

28 sagehen  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:33:46am

re: #9 Stanley Sea

In comparison, what was the fight against the new deal like? Similar?

a hundred times worse.

en.wikipedia.org

29 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:35:41am

re: #28 sagehen

a hundred times worse.

en.wikipedia.org

In fact, you could see the New Deal triggering the JBS reaction, including the Koch brothers’ father.

30 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:35:50am

re: #28 sagehen

I have a Reader’s Digest article from the 40s that I saved because it features a Republican representative complaining that janitors make too much money.

31 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:36:22am

LOL.
I’m inclined to think that the article ABL is linking to is a parody. But you never know anymore.

32 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:38:14am

re: #31 Vicious Babushka

Being privileged is not a choice. Being a prick about it is a choice.

33 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:41:10am

re: #29 Decatur Deb

History books make World War II look like some kind of epoch changing event on US politics, but a lot of the issues in the 50s were hanging on all the back from the early 30s. McCarthyism had a lot in common with the anti-Hollywood, anti-Jewish, isolationist current prevalent before the war. Same people, actually.

34 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:44:45am

re: #33 Carlos Danger

History books make World War II look like some kind of epoch changing event on US politics, but a lot of the issues in the 50s were hanging on all the back from the early 30s. McCarthyism had a lot in common with the anti-Hollywood, anti-Jewish, isolationist current prevalent before the war. Same people, actually.

Yup. Anti-wobbly Red Scare crap from WWi era and before. We and the British actually invaded Soviet Russia in 1918-19, in a forgotten war.

amazon.com

35 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:48:24am

re: #34 Decatur Deb

Yup. Anti-wobbly Red Scare crap from WWi era and before. We and the British actually invaded Soviet Russia in 1918-19, in a forgotten war.

amazon.com

one that we conveniently forgot when explaining the motivation of the the USSR, just like we conveneniently forgot the CIA coup that installed the Shah in Iran in the 50’s when explaining the Islamist Revolution of the 70’s

36 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:50:28am

re: #35 Sol Berdinowitz

one that we conveniently forgot when explaining the motivation of the the USSR, just like we conveneniently forgot the CIA coup that installed the Shah in Iran in the 50’s when explaining the Islamist Revolution of the 70’s

Did someone mention Diem, our most ingenious coup?

en.wikipedia.org

37 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:53:32am

re: #36 Decatur Deb

Did someone mention Diem, our most ingenious coup?

en.wikipedia.org

Domino Theory!!!

38 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:55:55am

I was pretty amazed when I saw Thomas Nast cartoons in the 1870s use the term communism left and right— that crap goes back a long ways.

Image: 1878HarpersMar16.jpg

Nast is a celebrated cartoonist, but he had no hesitation trying to pin the pinko meme on the Democrats and drawing Irish people as sub-humanly as possible.

39 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:58:30am

re: #38 Carlos Danger

I was pretty amazed when I saw Thomas Nast cartoons in the 1870s use the term communism left and right— that crap goes back a long ways.

Image: 1878HarpersMar16.jpg

Nast is a celebrated cartoonist, but he had no hesitation trying to pin the pinko meme on the Democrats and drawing Irish people as sub-humanly as possible.

Yeah, Irish were considered a separate race, below white people but above negro.

40 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 10:59:11am

re: #35 Sol Berdinowitz

one that we conveniently forgot when explaining the motivation of the the USSR, just like we conveneniently forgot the CIA coup that installed the Shah in Iran in the 50’s when explaining the Islamist Revolution of the 70’s

A tiny Engineers unit down the street from my office on Ft Rucker had an oversized cement Polar Bear on its lawn. The local custom was to paint it in a new costume for each upcoming holiday. The bear had its origin in the insignia of the Allied Expeditionary Force—the unit was a descendant of the force’s 310th Engineers. Here is a militaria site with a uniform of the era.

usmilitariaforum.com

41 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 11:06:08am

Well, those “million” truckers, haha, won’t get to gripe about oil prices.

Oil falls toward $103 a barrel as Syria risk fades

bigstory.ap.org

Check your avg price here: gasbuddy.com

42 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Sep 23, 2013 1:38:49pm

re: #39 Vicious Babushka

Yeah, Irish were considered a separate race, below white people but above negro.

BioShock Infinite uses that meme as part of the background. The game is fun but it makes it clear that when people rhapsodize about ‘The Good Old Days’ that they have no idea what they are yapping about.

Youtube Video


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