Allen West Repeats His Claim That Obama Is an Enemy of the US

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Via Right Wing Watch, here’s former Rep. Allen West on religious right radio show “Trunews,” agreeing with host Rick Wiles that President Obama is an Islamist enemy of the United States.

Following Wiles’s claim that “the reason the Obama administration cannot identify the enemy is because they are the enemy,” West said “that’s something for the American people to come to an understanding of.”

West, who now heads the National Center for Policy Analysis, said that while he is definitely not a conspiracy theorist, he thinks people must begin asking the question: “Whose side is this administration and these people really on?”

Note that Allen West is CEO of the National Center for Policy Analysis — and guess which hero of the left is scheduled to speak to this extreme right wing group in April?

Glenn Greenwald Will Speak to a Koch-Funded Event Named After a Pro-Lynching Racist Dixiecrat Congressman

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208 comments
1 Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2015 11:14:00am

War criminal says what?

2 lawhawk  Feb 19, 2015 11:15:13am

The war criminal says what?

West dishonored his uniform by engaging in criminal acts that should have led to a court martial. Instead, he resigned so as to avoid the dishonorable discharge. But he’s going to comment on the President’s actions? Seriously?

3 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 19, 2015 11:15:56am

This has been a low-level RW talking point for ages. From some quarters, it was more about Obama’s “contempt” for America, but that is obviously not shrill enough to draw attention in the frenzied atmosphere leading up to the next Presidential election…

4 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 11:15:58am

This asshole should be counting his blessings that he’s not rotting away in jail instead of calling the President an enemy of the US.

5 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 19, 2015 11:16:21am

re: #2 lawhawk

The war criminal says what?

West dishonored his uniform by engaging in criminal acts that should have led to a court martial. Instead, he resigned so as to avoid the dishonorable discharge. But he’s going to comment on the President’s actions? Seriously?

The people who like West consider those criminal acts a badge of honor.

6 Great White Snark  Feb 19, 2015 11:16:48am

Breaking News
Video of President Obamas expresses his support for Daesh.

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7 jaunte  Feb 19, 2015 11:16:57am
West, who now heads the National Center for Policy Analysis

Providing a fine example of the quality of their work product.

8 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 11:17:41am

re: #5 Blind Frog Belly White

The people who like West consider those criminal acts a badge of honor.

Of course.

9 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 11:18:14am

So will President Carson appoint West as Sec of Def?

10 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 19, 2015 11:18:25am
11 Justanotherhuman  Feb 19, 2015 11:18:56am

This and the previous are so over the top contemptuous it’s hard for me to even make a cogent comment.

12 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 19, 2015 11:19:42am

re: #9 Kragar

So will President Carson appoint West as Sec of Def?

Well, after all, there shouldn’t be rules when you go to war, and who better to implement that absence of rules?

13 Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2015 11:19:42am
14 Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2015 11:20:32am
15 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2015 11:20:42am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

He seems nice.

16 Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2015 11:20:47am

That’s right - now I’m a “former Nazi.”

17 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 11:21:29am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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He sounds nice and not at all like a complete fucking assclown

18 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 19, 2015 11:21:29am

re: #16 Charles Johnson

That’s right - now I’m a “former Nazi.”

So you’re Pope material!
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19 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 11:21:51am

re: #16 Charles Johnson

At least he said “former”
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20 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 11:23:37am

Who is this guy?

21 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 11:24:06am

re: #16 Charles Johnson

That’s right - now I’m a “former Nazi.”

Does that mean you’ve met Eva Peron?

22 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 19, 2015 11:24:23am

Despite my atheism, I’m a big believer in redemption. I have great respect for the person who looks at what he’s been saying, and who he’s been hanging with, and says, “Holy Shit! What’s WRONG with me?” and goes on to change his ways.

Yeah, I used to think Charles was an asshole, but he got better.

ETA - but never a Nazi!

23 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 11:27:11am

re: #22 Blind Frog Belly White

Despite my atheism, I’m a big believer in redemption. I have great respect for the person who looks at what he’s been saying, and who he’s been hanging with, and says, “Holy Shit! What’s WRONG with me?” and goes on to change his ways.

Yeah, I used to think Charles was an asshole, but he got better.

ETA - but never a Nazi!

Yep. This.

24 Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2015 11:28:15am

The cognitive dissonance of the Ginger Avenger:

Reading Marx is BAD, and makes you a bad person.

He’s read all of Karl Marx’s work.

Hence…

25 Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2015 11:29:15am

re: #3 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

This has been a low-level RW talking point for ages. From some quarters, it was more about Obama’s “contempt” for America, but that is obviously not shrill enough to draw attention in the frenzied atmosphere leading up to the next Presidential election…

Yeah, as much as we may highlight this shit, it’s been going on since the man went from “candidate” to “nominee” in ‘08. They’ve been convinced for years that he absolutely hates America and that he’s engaged in a secret campaign to tear it down. They just can’t agree whether it’s because he’s a secret Muslim, because he’s a secret socialist operative, or if it’s because of his daddy’s hatred of America. But what they agree upon is that if he’s not removed from office and everything he did undone, the country will be utterly destroyed.

26 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 19, 2015 11:30:11am

re: #24 Charles Johnson

The cognitive dissonance of the Ginger Avenger:

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Reading Marx is BAD, and makes you a bad person.

He’s read all of Karl Marx’s work.

Hence…

Just think of all those professors teaching courses on the rise of Fascism. They must be Nazis!

<insert eyerolling gif here>

27 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 11:31:31am

So same sex marriages are occurring in Texas.

Can God’s wrath be far behind?
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28 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 19, 2015 11:32:36am

re: #25 Targetpractice

Yeah, as much as we may highlight this shit, it’s been going on since the man went from “candidate” to “nominee” in ‘08. They’ve been convinced for years that he absolutely hates America and that he’s engaged in a secret campaign to tear it down. They just can’t agree whether it’s because he’s a secret Muslim, because he’s a secret socialist operative, or if it’s because of his daddy’s hatred of America. But what they agree upon is that if he’s not removed from office and everything he did undone, the country will be utterly destroyed.

I remember Newt going on about his “Kenyan worldview”.

Kenyans, as in a people who threw off British rule and gained independence, or Kenya, a country in which Mau-Mau rebels slaughtered white overlords?

29 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 11:32:58am
30 stpaulbear  Feb 19, 2015 11:33:08am

re: #27 Kragar

I think the judge only allowed one marriage. Goofy.

31 EPR-radar  Feb 19, 2015 11:33:15am

People who live in glass houses really shouldn’t throw stones like this.

The case that the GOP is essentially an enemy of America is much stronger than the case that Obama is such an enemy.

32 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 19, 2015 11:34:13am

re: #16 Charles Johnson

That’s right - now I’m a “former Nazi.”

Why does he have #UniteBlue twibbon on his avi. The Lord Glenn has declared #UniteBlue is lame.

33 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 11:35:28am

re: #30 stpaulbear

I think the judge only allowed one marriage. Goofy.

Of course now it has set a legal precedent

34 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 19, 2015 11:36:06am

re: #25 Targetpractice

Yeah, as much as we may highlight this shit, it’s been going on since the man went from “candidate” to “nominee” in ‘08. They’ve been convinced for years that he absolutely hates America and that he’s engaged in a secret campaign to tear it down. They just can’t agree whether it’s because he’s a secret Muslim, because he’s a secret socialist operative, or if it’s because of his daddy’s hatred of America. But what they agree upon is that if he’s not removed from office and everything he did undone, the country will be utterly destroyed.

This. A rational person would base their estimation of a President’s beliefs and priorities on the nature of the policies he proposes and pushes for. What they’ve done is to decide that his beliefs and priorities are evil, and they base their estimation of the nature of the policies he proposes on that. So, if he decides he likes their healthcare reform policy, it MUST be not only bad, but actually EEEEEEVIIIILL!!!!!

35 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 11:36:08am

re: #24 Charles Johnson

The cognitive dissonance of the Ginger Avenger:

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Reading Marx is BAD, and makes you a bad person.

He’s read all of Karl Marx’s work.

Hence…

I don’t see what his point is. Oooh he teaches a course on Marx, he must be a Marxist and even if the guy is, that doesn’t mean he can’t criticize Walker’s bullshit economic policies.

36 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 19, 2015 11:36:09am

re: #33 Kragar

Of course now it has set a legal precedent

And that Precedent hates America

37 Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2015 11:37:28am
38 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 11:38:12am
39 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 11:38:44am

re: #26 Blind Frog Belly White

Just think of all those professors teaching courses on the rise of Fascism. They must be Nazis!

<insert eyerolling gif here>

I took a class on Eastern European nationalism. My professor despite being born in Wisconsin was clearly an Eastern European nationalist. Really, it makes sense that there would be a whole class on Marx. The guy’s arguably one of the most influential political thinkers of the past two hundred years. You don’t have to agree with Marx to feel that way but as I said even if the professor is a MARXIST (by the way Chuckles, red scares were lame when our parents were our age), it doesn’t take away from the fact that he has a right and probably certainly has some valid criticism of Walker.

40 Justanotherhuman  Feb 19, 2015 11:38:45am

re: #24 Charles Johnson

The cognitive dissonance of the Ginger Avenger:

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Reading Marx is BAD, and makes you a bad person.

He’s read all of Karl Marx’s work.

Hence…

Upchuck’s an idiot. The guy teaches PoliSci.

41 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 11:39:14am

re: #38 Kragar

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Except a pencil isn’t designed specifically to poke someone in the eye you stupid pandering fuck.

42 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 19, 2015 11:40:12am

re: #38 Kragar

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“Watch this pencil. I’m gonna make it disappear!”

….

“It’s MAGIC!!”

43 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 19, 2015 11:41:09am

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Except a pencil isn’t designed specifically to poke someone in the eye you stupid pandering fuck.

Please send us a list of mass pencil-pokings in schools in recent years, Mike…

44 Dr Lizardo  Feb 19, 2015 11:41:33am

re: #27 Kragar

So same sex marriages are occurring in Texas.

Can God’s wrath be far behind?
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So, does mean that wingnutty Texans are hoping that God smites Texas? Or just those area that aren’t so wingnutty?

45 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 11:42:53am

re: #43 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Please send us a list of mass pencil-pokings in schools in recent years, Mike…

Yep. Of course, Mike probably is one of these types that blames the banning of forced prayer in schools on school shootings. And gays. Can’t forget them too. Anything but easy access to guns by minors is to blame for school shootings. You know the obvious elephant in the room that pandering dipshits like Huckabee refuse to talk about because any talk about how guns aren’t all totes awesome makes his base go into convulsions.

46 Kilroy01  Feb 19, 2015 11:43:06am

re: #38 Kragar

47 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 19, 2015 11:43:11am

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

So, does mean that wingnutty Texans are hoping that God smites Texas? Or just those area that aren’t so wingnutty?

What Wingnuts don’t realize is that God already DID smite Texas. Just go to Houston. You’ll see.

48 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 19, 2015 11:43:21am

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

So, does mean that wingnutty Texans are hoping that God smites Texas? Or just those area that aren’t so wingnutty?

We are going to lose the war against ISIS over this, you know…

49 EPR-radar  Feb 19, 2015 11:43:24am

re: #43 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Please send us a list of mass pencil-pokings in schools in recent years, Mike…

I’d also like a list of military forces in the world that arm themselves with pencils, Mr. Huckabee.

50 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 19, 2015 11:44:22am

re: #49 EPR-radar

I’d also like a list of military forces in the world that arm themselves with pencils, Mr. Huckabee.

Makes “Pencil Pusher’ sound much more dangerous, though, don’t it?
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51 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 19, 2015 11:44:27am

re:
#24

I have read all of Marx’s work.

Whooaaaah. Watch out. We got a real baddass here…..

52 Lancelot Link  Feb 19, 2015 11:45:09am

re: #38 Kragar

I have never personally witnessed five innocent bystanders seriously wounded in a gang-related pencil attack; a fact not true of guns.

53 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 19, 2015 11:46:04am

re: #39 HappyWarrior

I took a class on Eastern European nationalism. My professor despite being born in Wisconsin was clearly an Eastern European nationalist. Really, it makes sense that there would be a whole class on Marx. The guy’s arguably one of the most influential political thinkers of the past two hundred years. You don’t have to agree with Marx to feel that way but as I said even if the professor is a MARXIST (by the way Chuckles, red scares were lame when our parents were our age), it doesn’t take away from the fact that he has a right and probably certainly has some valid criticism of Walker.

But if it comes right down to it Marx doesn’t know squat about English Football. That’s why he never won any prizes.
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54 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 11:46:31am

They like to say: Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. Aye, that they do, but a gun makes it a hell of a lot easier. That’s why guns were invented.

55 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 11:47:58am

An AR-15 is just like a pencil.

A pencil capable of semi-automatic fire and be be made full auto.

A pencil capable of semi-automatic fire and be be made full auto, and can hold high capacity magazines.

A pencil capable of semi-automatic fire and be be made full auto, and can hold high capacity magazines, and can be effectively fired at targets hundred of yards away.

56 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 19, 2015 11:48:02am
Via Right Wing Watch, here’s former Rep. Allen West on religious right radio show “Trunews,” agreeing with host Rick Wiles that President Obama is an Islamist enemy of the United States.

See, this is the problem with all our unemployment and economic statistics. It counts people like these clowns as “employed” and the swoosh of wingnut welfare $$$ moving them around as GDP. ///

57 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 19, 2015 11:48:11am

re: #50 Blind Frog Belly White

Makes “Pencil Pusher’ sound much more dangerous, though, don’t it?
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Huck witnessed Duck Tracy getting rubbed out by Eraserhead.
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58 EPR-radar  Feb 19, 2015 11:48:47am

re: #54 HappyWarrior

They like to say: Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. Aye, that they do, but a gun makes it a hell of a lot easier. That’s why guns were invented.


The second amendment means that every moment of rage or irritation in the US needs to be a heavily armed moment of rage or irritation.

59 Dr Lizardo  Feb 19, 2015 11:50:07am

re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

60 BeachDem  Feb 19, 2015 11:51:53am

All this right-wing ugliness about Obama and loving America makes my head hurt and my blood pressure rise.

And, as somebody pointed out in the last thread, the Dixie Chicks were ostracized for YEARS for these 12 words:

we’re ashamed that the President of the United States is from Texas

(And in case you didn’t know, the Chicks have always “credited” Free Republic for starting the whole thing.)

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61 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 19, 2015 11:52:14am

re: #38 Kragar

Huckabee on AR-15s: ‘A Pencil Is An Assault Weapon If You Poke It In Someone’s Eye’ rightwingwatch.org … via @rightwingwatch

Sure, Huck. That’s why my buds and I were armed with pencils in Vietnam, big 1/2” jobs with specially hardened graphite in the center; only the best for Uncle Sam’s boys.

62 Great White Snark  Feb 19, 2015 11:52:50am

re: #55 Kragar

So that makes gun dealers pencil pushers?

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63 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 19, 2015 11:52:53am

re: #59 Dr Lizardo

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That is the central pillar of Dominionism, the notion that God favors the USA because our laws reflect (their narrow-minded, bigoted and misogynistic interpretation of ) God’s Divine Law, and as soon as we start allowing abdominations unto His Divine Will such as gay marriage, legalized abortion and progressive taxation, he is gonna open up a mighty-ass can o’ Smite on us.

64 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 11:53:34am

re: #60 BeachDem

All this right-wing ugliness about Obama and loving America makes my head hurt and my blood pressure rise.

And, as somebody pointed out in the last thread, the Dixie Chicks were ostracized for YEARS for these 12 words:

we’re ashamed that the President of the United States is from Texas

(And in case you didn’t know, the Chicks have always “credited” Free Republic for starting the whole thing.)

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I pointed that out downstairs. They went ballistic on the Dixie Chicks. The DC’s didn’t say they were ashamed to be American. No they said they were ashamed to share the same state with a president that they didn’t like but that was somehow awful but it’s okay for right wing officeholders former and current to actually question this president’s love of country.

65 Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2015 11:53:37am

Kind of amazing that nobody wants to touch the story about Greenwald’s speech to an extreme right wing Koch-funded group. He gets a pass from liberals for everything he does, no matter how gross.

66 stpaulbear  Feb 19, 2015 11:54:18am

re: #33 Kragar

Of course now it has set a legal precedent

The foaming wingnut frenzy this sets off is going to be unreal. This is going to be Alabama squared.

PS: CPAC has banned the log cabin republicans.

“The American Conservative Union has the right to invite or not invite whoever they want to the Conservative Political Action Conference, but they should be honest about the reasons why. The ACU is fond of hiding behind a fig leaf stating gay people are welcome as guests, but the ability to buy a ticket to CPAC was never what our debate was about; indeed, I will be attending CPAC, as will hundreds of other Log Cabin Republicans members and supporters. Make no mistake: LCR is actively being prohibited from sponsoring CPAC.

A quick warning: The link is to a gay news site called Joe My God, which has some ads that aren’t safe for work (although it’s not much worse than all of the boob ads that come up on LGF).

Other than for the love of money, I can’t see why any gay man would want to be associated with the republican party, let alone want to attend CPAC. As a gay man, I find it unbelievable.

67 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 11:54:51am
68 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 11:55:43am
69 Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2015 11:56:23am

re: #68 Kragar

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You ever notice that the biggest supports of doing away with public schools are the ones who can afford to send their kids to private schools?

70 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 11:58:19am

re: #68 Kragar

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Kennedy: More reactionary on schooling than the Puritans.

71 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 11:58:43am

re: #69 Targetpractice

You ever notice that the biggest supports of doing away with public schools are the ones who can afford to send their kids to private schools?

That can’t be a coincidence,//

72 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 11:58:57am

re: #69 Targetpractice

You ever notice that the biggest supports of doing away with public schools are the ones who can afford to send their kids to private schools?

“The easiest way for my kids to get ahead is for everyone else’s kids to be dumb.”

73 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 19, 2015 12:00:16pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

You ever notice that the biggest supports of doing away with public schools are the ones who can afford to send their kids to private schools?

Private schools have the right to choose who they admit and can kick students out for disobeying school rules.

Public schools have to accept everyone and cannot kick a student out unless they can prove that the student is a serious threat to other students and teachers.

74 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 12:00:51pm

So I just checked Kennedy’s biography. Graduated from a public high school and a BA in philosophy from UCLA. Public education for me but not for thee.

75 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2015 12:01:55pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

Ever notice how Chuck ALWAYS has to one up everyone? Like someone will challenge him on a point and he will claim to be so well versed in the area that he can’t possibly be wrong. Either he’s read some huge body of material or seen every video relating to an incident or traveled to all 15 places someone has lived, etc.

It’s like he has a psychological need to feel he’s better than everyone else.

76 Gus  Feb 19, 2015 12:02:21pm
…

Current illegal immigration - whereby unmanageably endless hordes of people pour over the border in numbers far too large to assimilate, and who consequently have no need, motivation or ability to assimilate - renders impossible the preservation of any national identity. That is so for reasons having nothing whatever to do with the skin color or origin of the immigrants and everything to do with the fact that what we end up with are segregated groups of people with allegiences to their enclaves, an inability to communicate, cultural perspectives incompatible with prevailing American culture, and absolutely nothing to bind them in any way to what we know as the United States.
…

But if the approach of pro-illegal-immigration advocates is going to be to follow the example of people like Willis and Drum’s commentators and simply scream “racist” at anyone who expresses concerns about the impact of the vast numbers of illegal immigrants pouring into the United States, then their loss in this debate will be as inevitable as it will be well-deserved.

— Glenn Greenwald

77 EPR-radar  Feb 19, 2015 12:04:53pm

re: #66 stpaulbear

…

Other than for the love of money, I can’t see why any gay man would want to be associated with the republican party, let alone want to attend CPAC. As a gay man, I find it unbelievable.

I find it sadly believable. Every group has its Quislings, and gay people are no exception.

78 stpaulbear  Feb 19, 2015 12:05:21pm

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

Ever notice how Chuck ALWAYS has to one up everyone? Like someone will challenge him on a point and he will claim to be so well versed in the area that he can’t possibly be wrong. Either he’s read some huge body of material or seen every video relating to an incident or traveled to all 15 places someone has lived, etc.

It’s like he has a psychological need to feel he’s better than everyone else.

Has CJC ever talked about music? It would be a hoot to hear him talk about bands.

79 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 19, 2015 12:05:51pm

re: #76 Gus

when these people are illegal, undocumented, subject to threats and blackmail, and have to live semi-underground, it is no wonder that they are not going to assimilate…

80 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 19, 2015 12:06:27pm

re: #78 stpaulbear

Has CJC ever talked about music? It would be a hoot to hear him talk about bands.

I assume he likes Hot Jazz and the band Asia.

81 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 12:07:53pm

re: #78 stpaulbear

Has CJC ever talked about music? It would be a hoot to hear him talk about bands.

He had an inside guy in the Beatles.

82 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 19, 2015 12:08:10pm

re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I assume he likes Hot Jazz and the band Asia.

He’s a Belieber.

83 Iwouldprefernotto  Feb 19, 2015 12:10:23pm

re: #82 The Vicious Babushka

He’s a Belieber.

My guess is that he loves nugent.

84 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 12:11:45pm

re: #83 Iwouldprefernotto

My guess is that he loves nugent.

and Gene Simmons and any other washed up right wing rocker here.

85 BeachDem  Feb 19, 2015 12:12:27pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

You ever notice that the biggest supports of doing away with public schools are the ones who can afford to send their kids to private schools?

They’re always bloviating about “equal opportunity doesn’t mean equal outcomes” but they’re really against equal opportunity as well, what with their desire to end public education, kill Head Start, make college unaffordable for most etc.

They. Are. Scum.

86 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 12:12:28pm

Liberal crap being things like slavery or how the US government treated Native Americans.

Its important we look at our history only thru rose colored glasses and never admit to any our mistakes.

Otherwise, we let the terrorists win.

87 lawhawk  Feb 19, 2015 12:12:45pm

re: #78 stpaulbear

Has CJC ever talked about music? It would be a hoot to hear him talk about bands.

He’s a big fan of the 5.6.7.8s.

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88 BeachDem  Feb 19, 2015 12:13:31pm

re: #78 stpaulbear

Has CJC ever talked about music? It would be a hoot to hear him talk about bands.

Well, he did say that he gets more “work” done when listening to classical music rather than hip hop, so there’s that…

89 Justanotherhuman  Feb 19, 2015 12:14:59pm

re: #76 Gus

— Glenn Greenwald

GG is a reactionary cloaking himself under the mantle of ‘progressive’.

He has a lot of people who don’t pay attention to detail really snowed.

90 lawhawk  Feb 19, 2015 12:15:03pm

re: #86 Kragar

Well, cutting out a few decades of US history will save money on education in the long run. Who needs the 1820s through 1890s? Or the 1950s and 1960s? Or any year other than 1981 through 1989?

91 Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2015 12:16:06pm

re: #86 Kragar

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Liberal crap being things like slavery or how the US government treated Native Americans.

Its important we look at our history only thru rose colored glasses and never admit to any our mistakes.

Otherwise, we let the terrorists win.

Only showing a picture of history that shows the country in the best light and downplays the darkest parts? Comrades Stalin, Mao, and Jong-Il would totally approve.

92 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 12:16:11pm

re: #86 Kragar

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Liberal crap being things like slavery or how the US government treated Native Americans.

Its important we look at our history only thru rose colored glasses and never admit to any our mistakes.

Otherwise, we let the terrorists win.

Meaningless liberal crap or pretty much everything that proves that this country has become great in spite of right wing reactionaries like those on Fox and in large because of the hated liberals.

93 BeachDem  Feb 19, 2015 12:17:20pm

re: #86 Kragar

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Liberal crap being things like slavery or how the US government treated Native Americans.

Its important we look at our history only thru rose colored glasses and never admit to any our mistakes.

Otherwise, we let the terrorists win.

Did you see what they want to replace the AP courses with:

One that taught “foundational documents” that include the Ten Commandments, numerous sermons, and three speeches by Reagan — but none by any Democratic president since Lyndon Johnson…

That emphasis would include teaching students Jonathan Edwards’ sermon “Sinners in the Hands of a Angry God,” the purpose of which is to remind the people that God may cast a sinner into Hell at any moment, so the best course of action is to accept Christ immediately. It would also include speeches by both Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, which are included because of their “foundational” value.

rawstory.com

94 The Mother Of All Pies  Feb 19, 2015 12:17:33pm

re: #90 lawhawk

Well, cutting out a few decades of US history will save money on education in the long run. Who needs the 1820s through 1890s? Or the 1950s and 1960s? Or any year other than 1981 through 1989?

And don’t forget they have to teach about the “War of Northern Aggression” and yet emphasize that the “Democrats were the bad guys!”

95 stpaulbear  Feb 19, 2015 12:18:36pm

re: #88 BeachDem

Well, he did say that he gets more “work” done when listening to classical music rather than hip hop, so there’s that…

If CJC were cool*, this would be his theme song.

But he’s not, so it isn’t.

*to be honest, Courtney Taylor is an asshole too.

96 Snarknado!  Feb 19, 2015 12:19:24pm

I’m baaack — and a few weeks without hearing the RWNJ chorus was wonderful. My friend here hasn’t heard it either.

Every Day Is a Good Day
97 piratedan  Feb 19, 2015 12:20:29pm

re: #89 Justanotherhuman

ty for that succinct synopsis of liberal media bias as we know it… Greenwald a progressive? he’s a one trick civil liberties pony who only got on that bandwagon while we had a blahh in office and said nary a thing while all of this evil shit was perpetrated in the name of the country to “make us feel safe”. He manipulated Snowden into stealing information in the name of whistleblowing and yet gets to skip away from all of the repercussions while living out of the country.

gotta say, ever since Obama’s election, we’ve seen a wonderful incestuous relationship develop between the racists and the “libertarians” who have added these groups to the working alliance of the gun fetishists and the religious zealots as the cannon fodder for the noveau riche as they try and perpetuate their control over everyone and everything.

98 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 12:20:33pm

re: #93 BeachDem

99 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 19, 2015 12:21:17pm

re: #96 Snarknado!

I’m baaack — and a few weeks without hearing the RWNJ chorus was wonderful. My friend here hasn’t heard it either.

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I told you to keep the cat and the local raccoons apart!
/// ;P

100 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 12:21:35pm

re: #93 BeachDem

Did you see what they want to replace the AP courses with:

One that taught “foundational documents” that include the Ten Commandments, numerous sermons, and three speeches by Reagan — but none by any Democratic president since Lyndon Johnson…

That emphasis would include teaching students Jonathan Edwards’ sermon “Sinners in the Hands of a Angry God,” the purpose of which is to remind the people that God may cast a sinner into Hell at any moment, so the best course of action is to accept Christ immediately. It would also include speeches by both Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, which are included because of their “foundational” value.

rawstory.com

So they want to replace actual history which is analyzing good and bad parts and replace it with their own propaganda. I just love how the right accuses the left of wanting to indoctrinate our kids and then we see their education plans which is literal bonafide indoctrination. As a graduate of history, we learn history by looking at the good and bad. We are a great nation but we are not a nation without errors made along the way.

101 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 12:22:26pm

re: #97 piratedan

ty for that succinct synopsis of liberal media bias as we know it… Greenwald a progressive? he’s a one trick civil liberties pony who only got on that bandwagon while we had a blahh in office and said nary a thing while all of this evil shit was perpetrated in the name of the country to “make us feel safe”. He manipulated Snowden into stealing information in the name of whistleblowing and yet gets to skip away from all of the repercussions while living out of the country.

gotta say, ever since Obama’s election, we’ve seen a wonderful incestuous relationship develop between the racists and the “libertarians” who have added these groups to the working alliance of the gun fetishists and the religious zealots as the cannon fodder for the noveau riche as they try and perpetuate their control over everyone and everything.

To be fair, the marriage of “libertarians” and “racists” was there in the Bush years too. They accused Bush of being a tool for “Israel and the Zionists.”

102 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 19, 2015 12:24:30pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

So they want to replace actual history which is analyzing good and bad parts and replace it with their own propaganda. I just love how the right accuses the left of wanting to indoctrinate our kids and then we see their education plans which is literal bonafide indoctrination. As a graduate of history, we learn history by looking at the good and bad. We are a great nation but we are not a nation without errors made along the way.

I seem to recall that the Texas School Board wanted to drop Jefferson in favor of Calvin.

103 Justanotherhuman  Feb 19, 2015 12:25:35pm

I want proof, as in copies of the actual data Snowden stole from the NSA, not this BS article.

Report: US, British spies stole encryption keys from largest manufacturer of SIM cards in the world, new documents provided by whistleblower Edward Snowden show - @the_intercept
read more on firstlook.org

Does anyone care to critique it?

104 Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2015 12:25:53pm

re: #78 stpaulbear

Has CJC ever talked about music? It would be a hoot to hear him talk about bands.

Why, yes, he has…

105 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 12:27:09pm

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I seem to recall that the Texas School Board wanted to drop Jefferson in favor of Calvin.

Yes, Barton was quoted as saying Calvin is more important to American thought than Jefferson. This being the guy who had a ton of pull on the last RNC platform and got nearly all that he wanted.

106 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 12:27:42pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Why, yes, he has…

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Yet gangsta rap sells best in the suburbs.

107 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 19, 2015 12:29:04pm

re:
#104

I find I get more work done when I play classical music as opposed to gangster rap. Maybe this explains what’s going on in the inner city?
— Charles C. Johnson

What work has Chuckity ever done?

108 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 12:29:44pm

re: #107 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#104

What work has Chuckity ever done?

Award winning journalist Bullshit artist.

109 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 19, 2015 12:31:39pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Award winning journalist Bullshit artist.

The preferred term is “stand-up philosopher”.
//

110 Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2015 12:32:16pm
111 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 12:32:59pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

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S.P.E.C.T.R.E needs two new villains right?

112 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 12:33:17pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

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113 Lancelot Link  Feb 19, 2015 12:33:17pm

re: #101 HappyWarrior

To be fair, the marriage of “libertarians” and “racists” was there in the Bush years too.

The marriage of “libertarians” and “racists” was there since Ayn Rand started writing.

114 Kilroy01  Feb 19, 2015 12:33:28pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

More like KAOS

115 Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2015 12:33:31pm

And Rudy decides to open his mouth to change feet:

116 stpaulbear  Feb 19, 2015 12:34:20pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Because the only two types of music there have ever been are classical and ‘gangster’ (heavy on the ‘errr’) rap; That which I have been taught I should love, and that which I have been taught I should hate.

117 Lancelot Link  Feb 19, 2015 12:34:47pm

re: #114 Kilroy01

More like KAOS

More like CHUMP.

118 Dr Lizardo  Feb 19, 2015 12:35:11pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

“America’s Mayor” needs to blow it out his ass.

119 goddamnedfrank  Feb 19, 2015 12:35:17pm

This person tweeted this crap at me and then immediately blocked me.

Another right winger inventing their own reality.

120 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 12:35:31pm

re: #113 Lancelot Link

The marriage of “libertarians” and “racists” was there since Ayn Rand started writing.

Yeah.

121 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 12:35:52pm

re: #114 Kilroy01

More like KAOS

P.A.G.A.N.

Pretty sure Chuck already has the goat leggings

122 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 12:36:41pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

And Rudy decides to open his mouth to change feet:

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Really Rudy just shut up already.

123 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 19, 2015 12:36:48pm

re:
#115

Giuliani keeps going: Obama’s not as “patriotic” as other presidents

And patriotism can be precisely determined by stuff. //

Rudy really wants to be the GOP VP in 2016.

124 Dr Lizardo  Feb 19, 2015 12:37:18pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

S.P.E.C.T.R.E needs two new villains right?

No, they’re gonna start a new supervillain organization.

S.P.H.I.N.C.T.E.R.

125 Kilroy01  Feb 19, 2015 12:38:22pm

re: #117 Lancelot Link

Oh I can see Agent 86 fighting the likes of Trump and Walker and winning.

126 bratwurst  Feb 19, 2015 12:39:13pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

If Walker is lucky, he may soon qualify for a pizza party (using a plastic knife and fork, of course) with Trump like Sarah Palin got!

127 Justanotherhuman  Feb 19, 2015 12:39:17pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

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Scott, if you get elected, I wanna be Commerce Secy. Deal?

128 Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2015 12:39:46pm
129 Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2015 12:40:38pm

re: #119 goddamnedfrank

This person tweeted this crap at me and then immediately blocked me.

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Another right winger inventing their own reality.

EXPERTS HAVE PROVEN THESE ARE PHOTOSHOP

130 De Kolta Chair  Feb 19, 2015 12:40:50pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

And yet the Snordmeister’s avatar is H.L. Mencken, a racist and anti-Semite.

Granted, Mencken disliked everybody, with the possible exception of Baltimore’s brewery workers, but still ironic.

131 Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2015 12:41:10pm

re: #128 Charles Johnson

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Well, he can’t win on Koch money alone. I’m sure after he’s done negotiating with Trump’s hair, he’ll be on to kissing Adelson’s ring by boasting of how much he loves Israel.

132 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 12:41:15pm

GOP hypocrisy watch

133 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 19, 2015 12:41:43pm

re:
#119

All Ur experts are belong to US!!!!1

134 BlueSpotinAL  Feb 19, 2015 12:41:44pm

CCJ:”I have read all of Marx’s work.”

Apes read Marx, they just don’t understand it.

135 HappyWarrior  Feb 19, 2015 12:42:39pm

re: #132 Kragar

GOP hypocrisy watch

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There’s Ted Cruz with his concern for individual rights.//

136 Justanotherhuman  Feb 19, 2015 12:47:53pm

re: #134 BlueSpotinAL

OK, so let’s hear you explain The Theories of Surplus Value, Upchuck.

No cheat sheets allowed.

137 darthstar  Feb 19, 2015 12:48:57pm
138 De Kolta Chair  Feb 19, 2015 12:49:54pm

Translation: “The good news is I can buy this guy for $5 and a shiny object. The bad news is he wants to date my daughter.”

139 Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2015 12:50:53pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

That’s right - now I’m a “former Nazi.”

Don’t former Nazis live/hideout in Brazil? hmmmm……..

140 darthstar  Feb 19, 2015 12:51:44pm
141 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 19, 2015 12:52:48pm

re:
#132

#Texas Attorney General @KenPaxtonTX says he will ensure 1st legal gay marriage here is “invalid.” #txlege #ssm

Don’t Tread On Me!!!!11

Less Government! Liberty! Freedom!!!1

142 darthstar  Feb 19, 2015 12:53:06pm

Cute:

A couple, both age 78, went to a sex therapist’s office. The doctor asked, “What can I do for you?”

The man said, “Will you watch us have sex?”

The doctor looked puzzled, but agreed.

When the couple finished, the doctor said, “There’s nothing wrong with the way you have sex,” and charged them $50.

This happened several weeks in a row. The couple would make an appointment, have sex with no problems, pay the doctor, then leave.

Finally, the doctor asked, “Just exactly what are you trying to find out?”

“We’re not trying to find out anything,” the husband replied.
“She’s married and we can’t go to her house. I’m married and we can’t go to my house. The Holiday Inn charges $90. The Hilton charges $108. We do it here for $50…and I get $43 back from Medicare

143 De Kolta Chair  Feb 19, 2015 12:54:39pm

re: #141 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#132

Don’t Tread On Me!!!!11

Less Government! Liberty! Freedom!!!1

CONTRACTS = COMMUNISM!!!

144 De Kolta Chair  Feb 19, 2015 12:59:23pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Why, yes, he has…

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Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, the original gangsta:

145 Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2015 12:59:43pm

re: #143 De Kolta Chair

CONTRACTS = COMMUNISM!!!

Except when those contracts guarantee executives fat bonuses, then they’re iron-clad and any talk of returning those bonuses is an attack on the sanctity of contract law.

146 Justanotherhuman  Feb 19, 2015 1:01:30pm

This story just gets more bizarre.

Las Vegas ‘Road Rage’ Shooting: Police Attempt to Take Suspect Into Custody

abcnews.go.com

The “suspect’ isn’t the alleged shooter, and there is a report that there might not have been “road rage” involved.

147 Romantic Heretic  Feb 19, 2015 1:05:21pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Made me think of this.

Image: Doomed-To-Repeat-History.jpg

148 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 1:09:46pm
149 Justanotherhuman  Feb 19, 2015 1:16:07pm
150 BlueSpotinAL  Feb 19, 2015 1:18:01pm

re: #146 Justanotherhuman

This story just gets more bizarre.

Las Vegas ‘Road Rage’ Shooting: Police Attempt to Take Suspect Into Custody

abcnews.go.com

The “suspect’ isn’t the alleged shooter, and there is a report that there might not have been “road rage” involved.

Nothing would have happened if there were even MOAR GUNZ! involved. //

151 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 19, 2015 1:22:43pm

That sick fascist war criminal should be at Ft. Leavenworth making big rocks into little rocks for the rest of his miserable life.

152 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 19, 2015 1:23:36pm

re: #140 darthstar

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I’m not sure which of those two is dumber or more incompetent…

153 Justanotherhuman  Feb 19, 2015 1:23:47pm

re: #150 BlueSpotinAL

And funny, too, is that these people lived one block from each other.

There’s no doubt more to this story than we may ever know.

154 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 19, 2015 1:25:05pm

re: #149 Justanotherhuman

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Australia is really the canary in the coal mine for global warming, and yet it’s the biggest nest of denialism outside the US. Is it just Rupert Murdoch (both places)? I can’t help but wonder.

155 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 19, 2015 1:27:05pm

Clown from amusement park found in sex offender’s home

headline from a universe i can understand

156 SteelPH  Feb 19, 2015 1:28:20pm

Stop the earth, I wanna get off.

157 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 19, 2015 1:29:04pm

Claim That Obama Is

captive self-proclaimed “conservatives” in my office strenuously assert that so called republicans in washington are not on their side and only do the bidding of “chamber of commerce types and big business”

a little more of this and reality might come to the heartland

158 Joe Bacon  Feb 19, 2015 1:29:20pm

re: #7 jaunte

Allen West puts the ANAL in ANALysis!

159 Joe Bacon  Feb 19, 2015 1:31:25pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

I can just imagine Chucky Cheese listening to NWA…

160 Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2015 1:33:20pm

re: #146 Justanotherhuman

This story just gets more bizarre.

Las Vegas ‘Road Rage’ Shooting: Police Attempt to Take Suspect Into Custody

abcnews.go.com

The “suspect’ isn’t the alleged shooter, and there is a report that there might not have been “road rage” involved.

“An armed society is a polite society”

161 Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2015 1:34:49pm
162 Justanotherhuman  Feb 19, 2015 1:35:32pm

re: #154 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Australia is really the canary in the coal mine for global warming, and yet it’s the biggest nest of denialism outside the US. Is it just Rupert Murdoch (both places)? I can’t help but wonder.

Maybe it’s the wide open spaces/cowboy mentality inherent in both cultures?

163 b_sharp  Feb 19, 2015 1:36:25pm

I spun around 5 times, stomped my feet in time to happy birthday, yelled timber into my sleeve, but the world did not change for the better.

What am I doing wrong?

164 Dr Lizardo  Feb 19, 2015 1:37:29pm

re: #163 b_sharp

I spun around 5 times, stomped my feet in time to happy birthday, yelled timber into my sleeve, but the world did not change for the better.

What am I doing wrong?

Were you wearing ruby slippers?

If not, well……there you go.

165 b_sharp  Feb 19, 2015 1:38:01pm

re: #164 Dr Lizardo

Were you wearing ruby slippers?

If not, well……there you go.

I don’t have ruby slippers.

166 SteelPH  Feb 19, 2015 1:38:12pm

re: #164 Dr Lizardo

Were you wearing ruby slippers?

If not, well……there you go.

Do sapphire clogs count?

167 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 19, 2015 1:38:55pm

“Never look down on a Buff”

Nifty pic of a B-52 from Boneyard Safari, but the first two comments rather detract from the effect:

(Idiot #1) How awesome it would be to deploy sufficient numbers of B52’s to darken the skies over ISIS and then let loose the dogs of war…..

(Idiot #2) Needs to be loaded and headed for a date isis.

I haven’t heard of B-52s in action against ISIS but I could not swear that they haven’t been (and neither could these clowns). The latter seem to feel, though, that the Buffs are held back for some reason other than the lack of a suitable mission requirement.
These idiots who want to arc-light, if not nuke, ISIS seem to be under the impression that it is some evil terrorist country, inhabited only by headchoppers with their evil terrorist witch-wives and demonic little terrorist children; and we could easily eradicate the whole accursed lot of them if Obama were not so protective of his terrorist friends.

168 Joe Bacon  Feb 19, 2015 1:38:57pm

re: #118 Dr Lizardo

He already does. William S Burroughs accurately described Giuliani in a chapter of Naked Lunch—the chapter about The Talking Asshole!

169 Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2015 1:39:58pm
170 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 19, 2015 1:40:44pm

re: #167 Shiplord Kirel

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“Never look down on a Buff”

Nifty pic of a B-52 from Boneyard Safari, but the first two comments rather detract from the effect:

I haven’t heard of B-52s in action against ISIS but I could not swear that they haven’t been (and neither could these clowns). The latter seem to feel, though, that the Buffs are held back for some reason other than the lack of a suitable mission requirement.
These idiots who want to arc-light, if not nuke, ISIS seem to be under the impression that it is some evil terrorist country, inhabited only by headchoppers with their evil terrorist witch-wives and demonic little terrorist children; and we could easily eradicate the whole accursed lot of them if Obama were not so protective of his terrorist friends.

Don’t have any empathy and lack any understanding of nuance. Easier to act ignorant and just make chestbeating equivalent comments. Ook.

171 freetoken  Feb 19, 2015 1:41:37pm

This whole OBAMA HATES AMERICA!!! that seems to have re-erupted the past few days is a total rerun of 2008-2012.

The petty warlord wannabes among the GOP are really hammering their xenophobic provincialism by trying to fan the flames.

I wonder why Mitt made that statement about not running for 2016. Maybe he realized he couldn’t compete in the hate-mongering?

172 Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2015 1:43:21pm

re: #146 Justanotherhuman

This story just gets more bizarre.

Las Vegas ‘Road Rage’ Shooting: Police Attempt to Take Suspect Into Custody

abcnews.go.com

The “suspect’ isn’t the alleged shooter, and there is a report that there might not have been “road rage” involved.

Looks like it was yet another case of two ammosexuals pairing off and one lost (from cnn.com):

The woman killed in an apparent road rage incident last week returned home to pick up her son and then went back out to find the man now suspected of shooting her, a Las Vegas homicide detective said Tuesday.

[…]

When she got home, Meyers told her daughter to go into the house, wake up the girl’s brother and have him get in the car. Meyers’ son Brandon, 22, brought a registered firearm with him.

Meyers drove back out of the neighborhood to see if she could find the man, Steiber said.

“The vehicles and persons found each other,” he said. “Through the course of them finding each other, at one point Mrs. Meyers was following what we consider a suspect vehicle and then at another point they broke apart and Mrs. Meyers went home.”

Shortly after Meyers arrived at her house a second time and got out of her car, a gray or silver sedan pulled into the cul-de-sac and a volley of shots was fired.

The son returned fire, Steiber said.

173 Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2015 1:44:26pm

re: #167 Shiplord Kirel

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“Never look down on a Buff”

Nifty pic of a B-52 from Boneyard Safari, but the first two comments rather detract from the effect:

I haven’t heard of B-52s in action against ISIS but I could not swear that they haven’t been (and neither could these clowns). The latter seem to feel, though, that the Buffs are held back for some reason other than the lack of a suitable mission requirement.
These idiots who want to arc-light, if not nuke, ISIS seem to be under the impression that it is some evil terrorist country, inhabited only by headchoppers with their evil terrorist witch-wives and demonic little terrorist children; and we could easily eradicate the whole accursed lot of them if Obama were not so protective of his terrorist friends.

It generally helps to remember that many of the morons who think the way to solve Daesh is to just keep bombing them until they’re all dead or surrendering are the same ones who thought removing Saddam from power would bring democracy and freedom to the region. And declared anyone who thought otherwise a “Saddam supporter.”

174 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 19, 2015 1:44:30pm

re: #171 freetoken

This whole OBAMA HATES AMERICA!!! that seems to have re-erupted the past few days is a total rerun of 2008-2012.

The petty warlord wannabes among the GOP are really hammering their xenophobic provincialism by trying to fan the flames.

I wonder why Mitt made that statement about not running for 2016. Maybe he realized he couldn’t compete in the hate-mongering?

He probably expects the GOP to beg him to jump back in when all the other losers flame out. It’s probably unlikely—but I wouldn’t rule it out.

175 freetoken  Feb 19, 2015 1:44:55pm

This whole run for the 2016 GOP Presidential candidacy would be quite entertaining if it weren’t so vile.

176 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 1:45:44pm
177 Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2015 1:45:47pm

re: #172 Dr. Matt

Looks like it was yet another case of two ammosexuals pairing off and one lost (from cnn.com):

No offense, but I’m thankful that the only person killed in this incident was one of the initiating parties. Hate to read about how one of the neighbors was killed as the result of an errant bullet.

178 Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2015 1:46:09pm
179 Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2015 1:47:16pm

re: #176 Kragar

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t one of the biggest items in a successful military operation the element of surprise?

180 De Kolta Chair  Feb 19, 2015 1:48:07pm

re: #145 Targetpractice

Except when those contracts guarantee executives fat bonuses, then they’re iron-clad and any talk of returning those bonuses is an attack on the sanctity of contract law.

TORT REFORM NOW!!!1!!!

181 Amory Blaine  Feb 19, 2015 1:48:21pm

Fuck you Rudy

The 9/11 Commission noted in its report that lack of preparedness could have led to the deaths of first responders at the scene of the attacks. The Commission noted that the radios in use by the fire department were the same radios which had been criticized for their ineffectiveness following the 1993 World Trade Center bombings. Giuliani testified to the Commission, where some family members of responders who had died in the attacks appeared to protest his statements.[17] A 1994 mayoral office study of the radios indicated that they were faulty. Replacement radios were purchased in a no-bid contract. They were implemented in early 2001. However, in March 2001 the replacement radios were found to be faulty as well.[18]
Fire Department chiefs issued orders for the firefighters to evacuate. However, the order was issued over the radios that were not working in the towers, thus, the 343 firefighters inside the Twin Towers could not hear the evacuation order. They remained in the towers as the towers collapsed.[19][20] However, when Giuliani testified before the 9/11 Commission he said that the firefighters ignored the evacuation order out of an effort to save lives.

182 Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2015 1:49:49pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

No offense, but I’m thankful that the only person killed in this incident was one of the initiating parties. Hate to read about how one of the neighbors was killed as the result of an errant bullet.

Well said. Most people ignore that this was happening in a friggn’ suburb. One ammosexual is now dead and the other is heading to jail…..”good guys with guns” my ass.

183 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 19, 2015 1:50:23pm

In the 40s it was common belief in all the allied countries that rigid enforcement of the Treaty of Versailles had been a mistake and that more effort toward improving the Weimar Republic’s economy could well have prevented the rise of the Nazis.

Today’s RWNJs would interpret this as “thinking you can stop the SS killers by offering them jobs! Hurr hurr, what a fool!”

184 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 1:50:42pm

re: #179 Targetpractice

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t one of the biggest items in a successful military operation the element of surprise?

If you’re moving around that many troops, locals are going to notice. The operational plans would remain a surprise.

185 freetoken  Feb 19, 2015 1:51:52pm

Getting back to my soap box of worldview-collapse as the over-arching scenario driver in what we see in American politics today:

Okla. debates dumping AP history test over ‘leftist’ bias

Allen West, Rudy, Ben Carson… all these guys are exploiting the angst of the religious right and their conspiratorial allies.

186 Kragar  Feb 19, 2015 1:52:22pm
187 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 19, 2015 1:53:04pm

re: #167 Shiplord Kirel

…some evil terrorist country, inhabited only by headchoppers with their evil terrorist witch-wives and demonic little terrorist children…

and who only have chihuahuas for pets.
(runs for cover)

188 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 19, 2015 1:55:41pm

re:
#178

Stay classy, RWNJ.

Also, too, he says Fat Thighs, like that’s a bad thing.

189 Jack Burton  Feb 19, 2015 1:56:07pm

I made the mistake of listening to Sean Hannity’s show for about 5 minutes today. (Rental car, hadn’t figured out how to hook my phone up to it yet to get my music so I was stuck with the presets for a bit.)

It was 5 minutes of him ranting that Obama has a mental illness coupled with every bullshit talking point they have all been parroting for the last few days. The most asinine shit I’ve heard in months, and I have a dozen or so RWNJ friends on Facebook that post kook memes and BS all day long.

Hannity is totally Clown Shoes now.

Then I found the USB port in the center console.

190 Dr Lizardo  Feb 19, 2015 1:56:24pm

re: #166 SteelPH

Do sapphire clogs count?

Only half your wish comes true then.

191 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 19, 2015 1:56:46pm

I don’t know if any Lizards recently bought a Lenovo laptop but heads up if so: they seriously fucked up.

A pretty shocking thing came to light this evening - Lenovo is installing adware that uses a “man-in-the-middle” attack to break secure connections on affected laptops in order to access sensitive data and inject advertising. As if that wasn’t bad enough they installed a weak certificate into the system in a way that means affected users cannot trust any secure connections they make - TO ANY SITE.

More info about Superfish here and pretty much all over all technical sites.

I did like one friend’s take on it though:

192 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 19, 2015 1:58:15pm

re: #167 Shiplord Kirel

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“Never look down on a Buff”

Nifty pic of a B-52 from Boneyard Safari, but the first two comments rather detract from the effect:

I haven’t heard of B-52s in action against ISIS but I could not swear that they haven’t been (and neither could these clowns). The latter seem to feel, though, that the Buffs are held back for some reason other than the lack of a suitable mission requirement.
These idiots who want to arc-light, if not nuke, ISIS seem to be under the impression that it is some evil terrorist country, inhabited only by headchoppers with their evil terrorist witch-wives and demonic little terrorist children; and we could easily eradicate the whole accursed lot of them if Obama were not so protective of his terrorist friends.

Well, duh. Hence their ridicule of Marie Harf for very sensibly saying we can’t kill our way out of this.

193 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 19, 2015 1:59:04pm

re: #189 Jack Burton

I made the mistake of listening to Sean Hannity’s show for about 5 minutes today. (Rental car, hadn’t figured out how to hook my phone up to it yet to get my music so I was stuck with the presets for a bit.)

It was 5 minutes of him ranting that Obama has a mental illness coupled with every bullshit talking point they have all been parroting for the last few days. The most asinine shit I’ve heard in months, and I have a dozen or so RWNJ friends on Facebook that post kook memes and BS all day long.

Hannity is totally Clown Shoes now.

Then I found the USB port in the center console.

Hannity has apparently revived his pre-2008 “Stop Hillary Express” theme. Worked out well for him last time, didn’t it?

194 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 19, 2015 1:59:05pm

re: #167 Shiplord Kirel

Also, I never realized just now narrow the fuselage on a B52 is, compared to its enormous wingspan.

195 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 19, 2015 2:02:03pm

re: #194 Blind Frog Belly White

Also, I never realized just now narrow the fuselage on a B52 is, compared to its enormous wingspan.

About the same width as a B-17, but a great deal longer and deeper.

196 Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2015 2:02:57pm

Just found myself thinking that the reason for all of the wingnuts now losing their minds about what the President is calling Daesh and his remarks that we’re not at war with Islam is because they lost their old talking point, namely that he’s not doing enough and doesn’t want to go to war with them. And he snatched that away from them when he presented the AUMF to Congress.

197 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 19, 2015 2:04:03pm

re: #195 Shiplord Kirel

About the same width as a B-17, but a great deal longer and deeper.

And with about 80% larger wingspan.

198 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 19, 2015 2:04:31pm

re: #193 Shiplord Kirel

Hannity has apparently revived his pre-2008 “Stop Hillary Express” theme. Worked out well for him last time, didn’t it?

Hey, she’s not President yet, is she?
///

199 Amory Blaine  Feb 19, 2015 2:05:00pm

Scott Walker getting in the White House would be a disaster of epic proportions.

200 WhatEVs  Feb 19, 2015 2:06:46pm

re: #96 Snarknado!

I’m baaack — and a few weeks without hearing the RWNJ chorus was wonderful. My friend here hasn’t heard it either.

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201 Justanotherhuman  Feb 19, 2015 2:07:30pm

Good grief, he looks to be about middle school age.

202 Jack Burton  Feb 19, 2015 2:07:47pm

re: #193 Shiplord Kirel

Hannity has apparently revived his pre-2008 “Stop Hillary Express” theme. Worked out well for him last time, didn’t it?

Regardless of how much I don’t like her, and hope for someone fresh and Obama-esque, given the options and the utter insanity on the right, I will gladly vote for her and hope Hannity doubles down on his failure if we get the same results.

203 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 19, 2015 2:08:26pm

re:
#196

Just found myself thinking that the reason for all of the wingnuts now losing their minds about what the President is calling Daesh and his remarks that we’re not at war with Islam is because they lost their old talking point, namely that he’s not doing enough and doesn’t want to go to war with them. And he snatched that away from them when he presented the AUMF to Congress.

Yes, if only Obama would say RADICAL ISLAM or some such then ISIS would disappear, cowering in fear. //

204 Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2015 2:09:19pm

re: #194 Blind Frog Belly White

Also, I never realized just now narrow the fuselage on a B52 is, compared to its enormous wingspan.

What always got me about the B-52 was its evolution. Started out on paper as a straight-winged bomber with six turboprop engines, ended up a swept-wing bomber with eight turbojets.

205 goddamnedfrank  Feb 19, 2015 2:11:29pm

re: #167 Shiplord Kirel

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“Never look down on a Buff”

Nifty pic of a B-52 from Boneyard Safari, but the first two comments rather detract from the effect:

I haven’t heard of B-52s in action against ISIS but I could not swear that they haven’t been (and neither could these clowns). The latter seem to feel, though, that the Buffs are held back for some reason other than the lack of a suitable mission requirement.

ISIS’s anti aircraft capabilities aren’t that good but they aren’t exactly trivial either. The propaganda victory of downing a 52 and possibly capturing its crew isn’t something we can never allow ISIS to attain. Otherwise we might have actually used them defending Kobane.

A use for the B52 I just thought of would be to design a massively multiple target laser designator for mounting on the Global Hawk, something that could illuminate several dozen separate targets at once. Then use the 52 as a “guided bomb truck,” dropping smart bombs over the battlefield but getting rid of much of the inefficiency and collateral damage risk of traditional carpet bombing.

There was a similar proposal a few years ago to do the same thing with the B1 bomber. The B1-R would have operated as a “missile truck” that would ripple off AMRAAM’s designated by a pair of forward positioned F22’s, then turn around and burn for home. This was supposed to be a way of maximizing the stealth capabilities of the 22’s while compensating for their limited weapons capacity.

206 BillinGlendaleCA  Feb 19, 2015 2:16:28pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

UCLA? I’m tempted to light my diploma on fire(UCLA BS).

207 EPR-radar  Feb 19, 2015 2:18:37pm

re: #199 Amory Blaine

Scott Walker getting in the White House would be a disaster of epic proportions.

True. In fact, any of the GOP candidates in the White House would be an unmitigated disaster.

This is not a party that is capable of governance any more, and the gibbering and grunts that suffice for communicating with the GOP base will not be helpful in foreign relations.

208 jayjaybear  Feb 19, 2015 3:36:20pm

People like West and the other nutso teabaggers almost make me long for the days when we could scoop them up and stick them in a rubber room indefinitely…


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