In Today’s Episode of “Pandering to Idiots,” Donald Trump Vows to Rename Denali Back to Mt. McKinley

Super classy and so very smart
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What can anyone say about pandering this naked? Donald Trump consistently out-panders the most pander-prone Republicans. That’s why he’s leading the pander-pack.

By the way, in Alaska, even Republicans are in favor of changing the name back to Denali; they’ve been trying to make this happen for more than 40 years, in fact.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 31, 2015 • 5:58:10pm

Trump will learn, eventually, that there is no satisfying these people. If not now, then after the election, when he is either pilloried for losing because he “isn’t conservative enough”, or pilloried for not accomplishing enough during his entirely-too-long-for-my-tastes presidency.

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jaunte  Aug 31, 2015 • 5:58:32pm

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Archangelus  Aug 31, 2015 • 5:58:37pm

There’s pathetic, and then there’s Trump, who seems to be carving out his own personal subcategory for the definition…

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jaunte  Aug 31, 2015 • 5:59:31pm

Trump sells a lot of stuff to people who pay more for it because it has his name on it. He knows dumb.

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2015 • 5:59:43pm

Trump is simply giving voice to the GOP’s unbridled id, who thinks that renaming the mountain back to “Mt. McKinley” is more important than the wishes of the people of Alaska.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:01:16pm

Whether he intends to or not, Trump is doing a fine job of showing us just how post-racial we are in this country. I wonder, though, how many Americans even give a shit that their neighbors aren’t far removed from the citizens of Rock Ridge.

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aagcobb  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:01:36pm

I can hardly wait for Palin’s tasty word salad on this issue, since I understand she actually supported changing the name (but probably not by Obummer’s unconstitutional tyrannical decree.)/

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Lidane  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:01:46pm

It was Denali for centuries. Even the Russians called it Denali, for fuck’s sake.

It was forcibly renamed in 1897 when McKinley was running for POTUS by a gold prospector for entirely political reasons. It would be like Bill Gates climbing the tallest mountain in Washington and then naming it after Hillary Clinton to get political favors for Microsoft.

Ohio can be insulted all they want. McKinley never went to Alaska. Never climbed a mountain. His only accomplishment as POTUS was getting shot. If they like him so damn much, Ohio can name something after him. Alaska isn’t obligated to give their highest mountain a name of someone who had no connection to the state at all.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:01:48pm

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:03:25pm

re: #7 aagcobb

I can hardly wait for Palin’s tasty word salad on this issue, since I understand she actually supported changing the name (but probably not by Obummer’s unconstitutional tyrannical decree.)/

Palin would enthusiastically support changing the name of that mountain to Mount Coca Cola if they sufficiently greased her palm.

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Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:03:47pm

I thought Trump only liked president’s who didn’t get shot.

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b.d.  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:04:09pm

How to Name a Mountain After Ronald Reagan

MOLLY BALL FEB 8, 2013

If this activist gets his way, there will be a Mount Reagan in Nevada, possibly as soon as next year. But it hasn’t been easy.

theatlantic.com

The initiative is part of the Ronald Reagan Legacy Project, a push to memorialize the former president as widely as possible that’s backed by anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist, who is an old friend of Muth’s. The sometimes-controversial effort has gotten more than 3,000 landmarks named for the Gipper, including highways, buildings, and schools — but never a mountain. While 12 other presidents have U.S. mountains named for them, and FDR has a peak in Canada, getting approval for Mount Reagan has proved unexpectedly difficult.

That is a good article

(from downstairs)

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:04:35pm

Like most wingnut moments in the last six years, this is not about any “conservative” principle, it is simply about opposing anything that the President does because they don’t like him. If he’d said he’d allow Congress to make a decision and leave the mountain named “Mt. McKinley” until then, they’d scream he was willfully ignoring the will of the people of Alaska just to win favor with Ohio voters in time for 2016.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:04:55pm

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b.d.  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:05:18pm

Why doesn’t Trump change the name of one of his buildings to McKinley?

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Dr. Matt  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:08:41pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

Ugh. WTF did you just make me watch? I hate you.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:08:45pm
any questions?
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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:09:24pm

The name of the Golden Gate Bridge is an affront to those of us here in New York. As President I will rename the Navajo Bridge in Arizona the Bull Connor Bridge, so Alabamans have something to be proud about.

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:09:32pm

Gov. Palin’s farewell address mentions Denali, not McKinley.

Her TV show? Calls it Denali, not McKinley, when she’s attempting to climb a portion (though this seems more a reference to the national park than the Mountain).

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Dr. Matt  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:12:34pm

re: #19 lawhawk

Gov. Palin’s farewell address mentions Denali, not McKinley.

Her TV show? Calls it Denali, not McKinley, when she’s attempting to climb a portion (though this seems more a reference to the national park than the Mountain).

Whoa. Nice finds.

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gocart mozart  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:12:37pm

Alaska should lobby to change the name of Cleveland to Tedstevensville.

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b.d.  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:12:51pm

Didn’t they rename all of Trump’s casinos to “Vacant”?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:14:08pm

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:15:39pm

Trump is cornering the conservative low information voter market. It’s all about hating Obama for Presidentin’ while black. Again, it’s like when Neil deGrasse Tyson caught shit when the IAU designated Pluto as a dwarf planet. A black man takes a stand on a relatively minor classification issue and ignorant white oldfuckers freak right the hell out.

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stpaulbear  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:15:40pm

re: #21 gocart mozart

Alaska should lobby to change the name of Cleveland to Tedstevensville.

or Gnome.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:16:27pm

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:18:02pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

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Game of Derp.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:18:09pm

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:19:17pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

The crown of King Nothing.

Metallica - King Nothing (Video)

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:19:21pm

Succinct

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MONDAY, AUGUST 31, 2015
ORDER IN PENDING CASE
15A250 DAVIS, KIM V. MILLER, APRIL, ET AL.
The application for stay presented to Justice Kagan and by
her referred to the Court is denied.

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WhatEVs  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:20:22pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

Oooh baby! Humpa humpa!

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Jenner7  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:22:22pm

re: #30 FormerDirtDart

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Dr. Matt  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:22:53pm

NOT The Onion:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:22:56pm

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:23:45pm

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bratwurst  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:24:13pm

This is what educated people are up against:

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WhatEVs  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:25:09pm

re: #22 b.d.

Didn’t they rename all of Trump’s casinos to “Vacant”?

I thought it was “Bankrupt”.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:27:29pm

facepalm

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Targetpractice  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:28:18pm

re: #30 FormerDirtDart

Succinct

And starting tomorrow, we get to listen as the screams about how she has a “right” to not do her job get cranked up to 11.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:28:40pm

Apparently I’m not supposed to make judgments about diaper fetishists. Who knew?

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jaunte  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:29:06pm

Safety pin warning.

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Lidane  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:30:07pm

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Unabogie  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:30:30pm

THAT FESTERING HAIR!

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Dave In Austin  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:31:48pm

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:32:12pm

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:32:43pm

We have a groundhog that likes to munch on the grass outside the shop. I’ve named him “Donald”. /true_story

RBS

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:33:51pm

Diaper fetish advocates are up in arms over my tweets.

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aagcobb  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:34:19pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

Apparently I’m not supposed to make judgments about diaper fetishists. Who knew?

Miley wouldn’t./

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jaunte  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:34:27pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Girding their loins for battle.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:34:44pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Diaper fetish advocates are up in arms over my tweets.

Sounds like you are in a pretty shitty predicament.

*snicker*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:35:49pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Diaper fetish advocates are up in arms over my tweets.

You are soooooooooo insensitive!!11!!

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EPR-radar  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:36:17pm

re: #36 bratwurst

There’s a reason GOP candidates are so stupid. They need to get the votes of stupid people in GOP primaries.

It is altogether possible that democratic self rule will fail because stupidity is more popular than sense.

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:36:43pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:36:48pm

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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:37:14pm

Charles, LGF gang, I made the fun comment/story about Ohio protesters and Mount McKinley posted earlier today into a page complete with image and a few minor additions. I hope you like it as I’m a little hesitant about doing pages.

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b.d.  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:37:41pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Diaper fetish advocates are up in arms over my tweets.

Chuck C Johnson would be in a lot less trouble today if he had just used a diaper.

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Jenner7  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:37:41pm

re: #36 bratwurst

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KiTA  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:38:16pm

MediaMatters has a pretty exhaustive takedown of the Planned Parenthood hoax:

mediamatters.org

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:39:53pm

re: #55 ObserverArt

Charles, LGF gang, I made the fun comment/story about Ohio protesters and Mount McKinley posted earlier today into a page complete with image and a few minor additions. I hope you like it as I’m a little hesitant about doing pages.

Very excellent. Candidate for promotion. Love the illustration!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:40:20pm

re: #55 ObserverArt

Charles, LGF gang, I made the fun comment/story about Ohio protesters and Mount McKinley posted earlier today into a page complete with image and a few minor additions. I hope you like it as I’m a little hesitant about doing pages.

It’s great!
You need to add some tags, like Denali, Ohio, McKinley, Satire.

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aagcobb  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:40:45pm

re: #52 EPR-radar

There’s a reason GOP candidates are so stupid. They need to get the votes of stupid people in GOP primaries.

It is altogether possible that democratic self rule will fail because stupidity is more popular than sense.

I still have confidence that the average American voter is not stupid enough to fall for this shit, and I hope they prove me correct next November.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:41:24pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s great!
You need to add some tags, like Denali, Ohio, McKinley, Satire.

Tags are good.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:41:57pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Diaper fetish advocates are up in arms over my tweets.

this might be a good time to make a ringing declaration on the subject of how american society is being destroyed by ‘political correctness’

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Ojoe  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:42:47pm

Uh Donald, it can have 2 names & there are better things to talk about anyway.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:43:40pm

re: #61 aagcobb

I still have confidence that the average American voter is not stupid enough to fall for this shit, and I hope they prove me correct next November.

“nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the american public”

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Ojoe  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:44:13pm

re: #65 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

That’s Mencken, isn’t it?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:47:51pm

re: #66 Ojoe

That’s Mencken, isn’t it?

yes but slightly mangled to fit the case

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage.

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.

No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.

H. L. Mencken

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:49:42pm

Two wild flower shots from near Madras, OR in 1989. I like the depth of field effect in particular.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:49:58pm

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bratwurst  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:50:32pm

This lead to an amazing tweet by the often hilarious Dick Nixon account…the author is remarkably adept in simulating the man’s voice (even if he’s too obsessed with baseball), but probably needs to be supervised by mental health professionals. Well worth a follow in any case.

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A Cranky One  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:50:52pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Diaper fetish advocates are up in arms over my tweets.

Of course they’re upset. Normally they’re pampered.

/*sneaks away

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:52:04pm

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:52:26pm

Good grief. Sometimes Twitter is ridiculous.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:52:34pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Diaper fetish advocates are up in arms over my tweets.

Daughter1 got roped into producing maternity kits for some isolated Bolivian medical clinic. They specified cloth-only, since there was no resupply in the mountains. I told her to try and get retired diapers from cloth diaper service companies. I told her to google “used diapers” to find them.

She got back to me on that.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:53:36pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

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Welcome to the Twee Left.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:54:20pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

apparently it’s bad to shame people about their “private sex lives”, but it was peachy-keen to allow him to publicly shame his wife by making her stand by him during the press conference.
I still remember the look on her face.

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stpaulbear  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:54:36pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

Good grief. Sometimes Twitter is ridiculous.

Well, it depends…

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EPR-radar  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:55:27pm

re: #67 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

More on point than usual: “In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.” H.L. Mencken

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Ojoe  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:56:23pm

re: #67 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

I love the part about “good and hard.” Ha ha.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:57:14pm

re: #74 Decatur Deb

Daughter1 got roped into producing maternity kits for some isolated Bolivian medical clinic. They specified cloth-only, since there was no resupply in the mountains. I told her to try and get retired diapers from cloth diaper service companies. I told her to google “used diapers” to find them.

She got back to me on that.

google “used diapers”

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bratwurst  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:57:58pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

Good grief. Sometimes Twitter is ridiculous.

While I find the type of people you’re dealing with to be highly annoying, I am still not ready to blame them for the rise of Donald Trump the way S.E. Cupp does.

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:59:49pm

I just realized what this whole “Denali - McKinley” thing reminds me of. I remember when Obama sent about 100 troops or so to Africa to help provide training and support for the hunt for Kony and The Lord’s Resistance Army.

Limbaugh in particular jumped on that, how Obama was targeting Christians. A lot of the RWNJs made Pavlov proud as they reflexively attacked Obama for his actions. After they figured out just who Kony and the LRA was, they did the “We never said that… nope, you’ve got us confused with someone else”.

FWIW, when I spent a year in Alaska about 20+ years ago, we all called it Denali.

RBS

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 31, 2015 • 6:59:58pm
Growing in fear of Dennis Moore

Another from Central Oregon.

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No Depression  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:02:06pm

I have to agree with the Twitter people. Attacking someone for their diaper fetish is nothing but an ad hominem smear. //

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CuriousLurker  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:02:32pm

Oh man, Pam is laying it on thick, as usual:

They came for baseball great Curt Schilling last week. Who will they come for next? […]

It is chilling. America has entered the next stage of submission and dhimmitude. Dark days ahead, very dark days.

First they came for Geller, and you did nothing.

Then they came for Robert Spencer, Geert Wilders, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, etc.

And they will come for you, and there will be no one - and I mean no one - to fight for you. […]

donotlink.com

You were warned—when the Islamonazis come for you, Bob, Geert, Ayaan and I won’t be here to save your sorry asses, you ungrateful bastards!!11!

Drama Llama
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jaunte  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:04:03pm

re: #71 A Cranky One

Of course they’re upset. Normally they’re pampered.

/*sneaks away

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freetoken  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:04:42pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

Apparently I’m not supposed to make judgments about diaper fetishists. Who knew?

Now you’ve crossed the line.

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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:04:51pm

re: #85 CuriousLurker

Oh man, Pam is laying it on thick, as usual:

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You were warned—when the Islamonazis come for you, Bob, Geert, Ayaan and I won’t be here to save your sorry asses, you ungrateful bastards!!11!

[Embedded content]

Gotta give her credit. She managed to get this message past the guards.

/

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freetoken  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:05:57pm

There’s no separating a man from his diapers.

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jaunte  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:06:34pm

re: #89 freetoken

Wouldn’t be prudent.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:06:54pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Sounds like they need changing if they’re getting fussy.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:08:01pm

Time for a nappy. ‘Nite, all.

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:09:55pm

Neckbeard alert.

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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:12:20pm

re: #93 teleskiguy

Neckbeard alert.

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Damn. First time I’ve heard enough and never clicked to play the video.

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WhatEVs  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:16:08pm

re: #93 teleskiguy

More like “Our penises are so small we need magnifying glasses and tweezers to wack off, but other than that, we’re fabulous!”

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bratwurst  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:16:51pm

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:17:04pm

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Chan Kobun  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:17:30pm

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Amory Blaine  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:18:51pm

Old Fashioned Applewood Smoked Bone-In Ham

Applewood Smoked Bacon

Nueske’s smoked meats is a hometown favorite if you choose.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:20:07pm

If you’re a cashier at Walmart or an insurance salesman in Tuskegee, your diaper fetish is nobody’s business but your own. If you’re a GOP Senator who publicly promotes himself as an advocate of family values and works to destroy public education, your diaper fetish is VERY relevant. And not in a good way.

A diaper fetish isn’t some kind of free pass for bad behavior.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:20:38pm

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

So, she’s telling me I can remove any Confederate flags I want if they’re in a national park? Sweet.

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stpaulbear  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:20:47pm

Hmm. Karl Rove has a book coming out about McKinley in November. It’s up for pre-order on Amazon.

Is Obama a genius troll? Of course he is.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:21:00pm

re: #93 teleskiguy

Neckbeard alert.

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:21:36pm

re: #102 stpaulbear

Is Obama a genius troll? Of course he is.

“All out of fucks to give” Obama is my favorite Obama.

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WhatEVs  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:24:39pm

re: #102 stpaulbear

Hmm. Carl Rove has a book coming out about McKinley in November. It’s up for pre-order on Amazon.

Is Obama a genius troll? Of course he is.

That’s hysterical!

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Kragar  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:25:36pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:25:39pm

re: #103 The Vicious Babushka

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Whoa He manages to simultaneously insult blacks AND working class whites!

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:26:38pm

re: #106 Kragar

Only 82 Favs as opposed to almost 1,100 RTs. Good stuff.

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Kragar  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:27:02pm

re: #103 The Vicious Babushka

It should be at least as funny as when he got his ass kicked picking a fight with a union guy

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Amory Blaine  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:27:47pm

re: #106 Kragar

Is it freshly squeezed?

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CleverToad  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:27:58pm

re: #102 stpaulbear

Rove is probably delighted by the timing — he’ll market the book to the RWNJs as an opportunity to protest Obama’s foul renaming. “Here, hold up your copy at the next Confederate Flag rally and pretend you knew who McKinley was before they renamed the mountain!”

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Kragar  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:28:01pm

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WhatEVs  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:28:19pm

re: #110 Amory Blaine

Is it freshly sqeezed?

Does it matter? :-D

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#CampaignZero  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:29:25pm

re: #99 Amory Blaine

Old Fashioned Applewood Smoked Bone-In HamEmbedded Image

Applewood Smoked Bacon

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Nueske’s smoked meats is a hometown favorite if you choose.

Was it the liver sausage you were talking about?

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Kragar  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:29:50pm

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Amory Blaine  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:30:35pm

Well if it’s freshly squeezed I feel like I’m voting for something other than against the opponent. //:{ -

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Amory Blaine  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:31:35pm

re: #114 #CampaignZero

Yeah, but from a different shop, European Sausage which is my fave.

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Kragar  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:33:22pm

re: #117 Amory Blaine

Yeah, but from a different shop, European Sausage which is my fave.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:38:54pm

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Kragar  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:39:08pm

Techmarine time, which means putting a guy who looks like this:

on to a bike like this:

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Amory Blaine  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:39:34pm

Pulled pork BBQ sandwich on an onion roll for lunch tomorrow. Can’t wait. G’nite lizards.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:41:05pm

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Kragar  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:43:32pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

Because a single structure in the middle of a metropolitan area is exactly the same as 2000 miles of border

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:44:46pm

re: #123 Kragar

Tells you much about his claim that ‘I build things’, don’t it?

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plansbandc  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:44:55pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

Offensensitivity.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:45:23pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

Conflating the challengers in defending a fence enclosing a relatively compact perimeter which has a substantial guard force and a fence that is mostly out in the desert with only remote monitoring?

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:48:35pm

re: #102 stpaulbear

Hmm. Karl Rove has a book coming out about McKinley in November. It’s up for pre-order on Amazon.

Is Obama a genius troll? Of course he is.

His conclusion will be that McKinley’s assassination led directly to Obama winning Ohio in the 2012 election.

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The Dude Abides  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:48:52pm

re: #68 Feline Fearless Leader

Two wild flower shots from near Madras, OR in 1989. I like the depth of field effect in particular.

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I was just there last month for work! Beautiful area.

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jaunte  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:49:28pm

re: #102 stpaulbear

Is Obama a genius troll? Of course he is.

Forcing Americans to read their own history.

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:49:48pm

Been dealing with a “Obama has declared war on the Police” type. Did a quick check. The number of officers killed in Line Of Duty is at record low levels. The highest number killed during Obama’s years in office (171 in 2011) is lower than the lowest number during St. Ronnies reign (176 in 1985). For the last two years, the count is at the lowest level since 1959. It was 107 in 2013 and 117 in 2014.

Since these numbers come from the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Foundation website, I suspect that even a RWNJ would have to admit that they are probably pretty accurate. nleomf.org

There is nothing I like better than the sound of somebody simply not replying, because they have nothing left to say.

RBS

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Csarneson  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:53:22pm

Some political advisor gave a trump some solid advice though. Sure he’s intellectually dishonest, but Ohio is the swing state that’s worth trying to win. Nobody cares about Alaska’s electoral votes. They are solid R regardless.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2015 • 7:59:12pm

re: #130 Reality Based Steve

Been dealing with a “Obama has declared war on the Police” type. Did a quick check. The number of officers killed in Line Of Duty is at record low levels. The highest number killed during Obama’s years in office (171 in 2011) is lower than the lowest number during St. Ronnies reign (176 in 1985). For the last two years, the count is at the lowest level since 1959. It was 107 in 2013 and 117 in 2014.

Since these numbers come from the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Foundation website, I suspect that even a RWNJ would have to admit that they are probably pretty accurate. nleomf.org

There is nothing I like better than the sound of somebody simply not replying, because they have nothing left to say.

RBS

Policing isn’t even close to being in the top ten most dangerous professions. Commercial fishermen, loggers, roofers, steel / construction workers, sanitation workers and several other trades I can’t remember right now are killed and injured on the job in far greater numbers

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The Dude Abides  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:01:22pm

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

Communications tower climbers is up there.

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retired cynic  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:02:43pm

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

Policing isn’t even close to being in the top ten most dangerous professions. Commercial fishermen, loggers, roofers, steel / construction workers, sanitation workers and several other trades I can’t remember right now are killed and injured on the job in far greater numbers

Farmers!

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calochortus  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:04:18pm

re: #112 Kragar

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There is a Jeff Davis Peak in Nevada. Named in 1855 by a member of the military for his boss,the then Secretary of War, Jefferson Davis. A few years later, the name didn’t look so good, so the highest point was renamed Wheeler Peak, with a lower point retaining the Jeff Davis name. Both are now in Great Basin National Park.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:08:09pm

And a few more from out West.

Wallpaper candidate
Indian Paintbrush - Arches NM in 1993
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:09:17pm

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

Policing isn’t even close to being in the top ten most dangerous professions. Commercial fishermen, loggers, roofers, steel / construction workers, sanitation workers and several other trades I can’t remember right now are killed and injured on the job in far greater numbers

And when they die, we don’t name roads of bridges after them, we don’t have enormous funerals where the Mayor and Governor eulogize the fallen, and we don’t have long, long processions to the cemetary.

When somebody says ‘Police lives matter!’, I point this out to them - we all know police lives matter, because we not only do all of that when they die, we also give them guns and the authority to take lives.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:10:10pm

Mrs. FBW is going full bore preparing for her new job. She starts teaching on Thursday. She’s involved, driven, energetic - and happy! She was languishing at home all summer with no job, and no deadlines.

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#CampaignZero  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:13:05pm

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

Policing isn’t even close to being in the top ten most dangerous professions. Commercial fishermen, loggers, roofers, steel / construction workers, sanitation workers and several other trades I can’t remember right now are killed and injured on the job in far greater numbers

but but heroes.

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PT Barnum  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:13:21pm

One thing about a diaper fetish, it’s really difficult to pin it on someone, so don’t do any thing rash. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to take a powder before anyone gets too pushy or pissed off.

I’m here all all week. Tip your waitress and try the veal.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:14:06pm

And one more since it’s a bit of an oddball plant. Indian Pipes

Link

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:15:08pm

re: #141 Feline Fearless Leader

And one more since it’s a bit of an oddball plant. Indian Pipes

Link

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Fungus. Fungi are cool.

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#CampaignZero  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:15:28pm

re: #137 Blind Frog Belly White

And when they die, we don’t name roads of bridges after them, we don’t have enormous funerals where the Mayor and Governor eulogize the fallen, and we don’t have long, long processions to the cemetary.

When somebody says ‘Police lives matter!’, I point this out to them - we all know police lives matter, because we not only do all of that when they die, we also give them guns and the authority to take lives.

I saved this. You summed it up.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:15:50pm

re: #142 Blind Frog Belly White

Fungus. Fungi are cool.

As long as they are growing on the ground and not on your foot.

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PT Barnum  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:16:37pm

re: #131 Csarneson

If he wins over that issue, we deserve what we get

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:17:07pm

re: #142 Blind Frog Belly White

Fungus. Fungi are cool.

Not a fungus. A non-chlorophyll bearing plant. Which means that it’s parasitic and thus a bit like a fungus in that regard.

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WhatEVs  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:18:17pm

As only Wonkette can.

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PT Barnum  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:18:34pm

Been gone awhile, how’re things?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:19:22pm

re: #146 Feline Fearless Leader

Not a fungus. A non-chlorophyll bearing plant. Which means that it’s parasitic and thus a bit like a fungus in that regard.

You’re right. Serves me right for not checking what I was 85% certain I knew.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:20:07pm

But I maintain, fungi ARE cool!

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PT Barnum  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:20:10pm

re: #147 WhatEVs

As only Wonkette can.

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Saw the interview on CBS Sunday morning. Made me throw up the dog and kick my breakfast.

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#CampaignZero  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:20:20pm

re: #148 PT Barnum

Been gone awhile, how’re things?

Good to see ya.

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PT Barnum  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:22:12pm

re: #150 Blind Frog Belly White

Mushroom walks into a bar, bartender says “we don’t serve mushrooms.” The mushroom said, “Hey, I’m a fungi!”

Drops head in shame, slinks off.

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Csarneson  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:22:37pm

re: #145 PT Barnum

The electoral college is so stacked against him it doesn’t matter. Literally any democrat could win this time out. Still their only road to a win goes through Ohio so it might be a solid stance with the buckeye rednecks.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:22:46pm

Bubba the gunsmith goes to Brazil, where he turns an old M1 Garand from a piece of history into an abomination only a mall ninja could love:

Details here.

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WhatEVs  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:23:24pm

Most trusted source in Zzzzzzz’s.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:24:27pm

re: #154 Csarneson

The electoral college is so stacked against him it doesn’t matter. Literally any democrat could win this time out. Still their only road to a win goes through Ohio so it might be a solid stance with the buckeye rednecks.

You wish. The Dem field isn’t all that strong and you’re assuming turnout and voter splits that a long way from being known.

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PT Barnum  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:25:55pm

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

You wish. The Dem field isn’t all that strong and you’re assuming turnout and voter splits that a long way from being known.

Do you really want one of the GOP clowns to win?

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:26:55pm

re: #158 PT Barnum

Do you really want one of the GOP clowns to win?

He absolutely does.

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:27:43pm

re: #158 PT Barnum

Do you really want one of the GOP clowns to win?

They ain’t all clowns. But I have to put my foot up (gout). BBIAB

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jaunte  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:28:13pm

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:29:02pm

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

They ain’t all clowns.

Yeah they are. They’re all a bunch of reactionary loons.

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#CampaignZero  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:29:47pm

Night y’all, be kind.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:29:55pm

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

They ain’t all clowns. But I have to put my foot up (gout). BBIAB

Tell me which Republicans would cause you to not vote next year. And I want you to think hard. Not the 9/1/15 DF, but the 11/16 DF.

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PT Barnum  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:30:56pm

re: #159 teleskiguy

That has to be the saddest thing. The GOP’s been reduced to trying to out deep each other to appeal to their rabid base, and you still think one of them should be president.

None of these guys should get any closer to the Oval office than the White House tour.

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:30:57pm

re: #164 Belafon

Tell me which Republicans would cause you to not vote next year. And I want you to think hard. Not the 9/1/15 DF, but the 11/16 DF.

I asked him a while back if he would vote Trump if he got the nomination, he said he wouldn’t vote for president. I have a hard time believing that.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:32:06pm

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

You wish. The Dem field isn’t all that strong and you’re assuming turnout and voter splits that a long way from being known.

Venturing near some dangerous territory with this comment. Some of us still remember the grotesque predictions you made about black voter turnout in 2012.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:33:10pm
SOON

G’night Lizards.

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Kragar  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:34:31pm

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:34:37pm

For those keeping score, Dark_Falcon is a reflexive partisan because his pops would disown him if he turned commie voted for anybody that didn’t have an R next to their name. He means well, misguided as he is.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:37:30pm

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

Uh. Yes they are.

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Jenner7  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:39:50pm

When did the Republican party start to implode? When George W. Bush was elected? When Obama was? Or was it before Bush??

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Timothy Watson  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:42:00pm

Has anyone proposed impeaching Obama over McKinleyGate yet?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:42:24pm

There hasn’t been a non clown GOP candidate for President since Jon Huntsman Jr.

I still wasn’t much of a fan, but he stood out dramatically as the only semi reasonable, obviously intelligent and competent option running on the Republican side. It spoke volumes how much the primary electorate hated him.

175
teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:45:22pm

re: #174 goddamnedfrank

There hasn’t been a non clown GOP candidate for President since Jon Huntsman Jr.

I still wasn’t much of a fan, but he stood out dramatically as the only semi reasonable, obviously intelligent and competent option running on the Republican side. It spoke volumes how much the primary electorate hated him.

I have to admit this tweet piqued my curiosity of the man back in those days.

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bratwurst  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:47:12pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

Bubba the gunsmith goes to Brazil, where he turns an old M1 Garand from a piece of history into an abomination only a mall ninja could love:

Embedded Image

Details here.

I am going to downding all gun porn until this country can go two full weeks without a mass shooting incident.

And yes, I realize this means I am going to be downdinging all gun porn forever.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:50:34pm

re: #176 bratwurst

I am going to downding all gun porn until this country can go two full weeks without a mass shooting incident.

And yes, I realize this means I am going to be downdinging all gun porn forever.

That thing was the diaper fetish equivalent of gun porn.

178
BeachDem  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:52:06pm

re: #165 PT Barnum

That has to be the saddest thing. The GOP’s been reduced to trying to out deep each other to appeal to their rabid base, and you still think one of them should be president.

None of these guys should get any closer to the Oval office than the White House tour.

179
RadicalModerate  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:55:11pm

re: #164 Belafon

Tell me which Republicans would cause you to not vote next year. And I want you to think hard. Not the 9/1/15 DF, but the 11/16 DF.

Hell, I’m still waiting for an answer to when I asked him last week to name a member of the party on the national stage who isn’t a raving lunatic, or someone who doesn’t openly embrace said fanatics.

Caveat: Said politician must be currently alive.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:55:26pm

KaA1/lqOdCsserye8y4QhTbr5fx8sB370Z8WbEth73KSkQ866Xr0hCZ4WLlBmSm8

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bratwurst  Aug 31, 2015 • 8:55:33pm

re: #154 Csarneson

The electoral college is so stacked against him it doesn’t matter. Literally any democrat could win this time out. Still their only road to a win goes through Ohio so it might be a solid stance with the buckeye rednecks.

First of all…no, “literally any democrat” is not going to run away with anything.

Second of all, the election is not for 14 months. I seriously doubt this is going to mean anything then. The one and only reason for Trump (or Boehner or anyone else) to take a stand on this is to appeal to fucking idiots.

Finally, you are a shitty shitty troll who thought he could get away with nonsense like this and this. Fuck off.

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:00:58pm

re: #170 teleskiguy

This isn’t a fair comment. I don’t know if Dark_Falcon is a reflexive partisan because of family, though he has alluded as such in the past.

Thing is, familial politics is not a good thing. My grandfather was a racist and loved what Joe McCarthy was doing in the 50s. My father hung up on me during a phone conversation when I told him I would vote for Hillary to keep a Republican out of the White House. If you agree with everything your parents taught you, are you truly free?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:09:55pm

re: #182 teleskiguy

This isn’t a fair comment. I don’t know if Dark_Falcon is a reflexive partisan because of family, though he has alluded as such in the past.

Thing is, familial politics is not a good thing. My grandfather was a racist and loved what Joe McCarthy was doing in the 50s. My father hung up on me during a phone conversation when I told him I would vote for Hillary to keep a Republican out of the White House. If you agree with everything your parents taught you, are you truly free?

It’s fair. Dark has flat out said that his views result entirely from his father’s side of the family and his own friends. He’s an adult and still he’s said multiple times that his opinions are primarily rooted in these external influences, he owns that.

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Kragar  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:10:26pm

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:12:37pm

re: #10 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Palin would enthusiastically support changing the name of that mountain to Mount Coca Cola if they sufficiently greased her palm.

Big Rock Candy Mountain

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:12:42pm

Night All. Just have to say that I absolutely do NOT want a motorcycle, had one, tried to kill me. If I did however, this is the one I’d want….

Easy Rider Chopper
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William Lewis  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:16:25pm

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

They ain’t all clowns. But I have to put my foot up (gout). BBIAB

I can admit to knowing a tiny handful of honest and honorable Republicans. 75% are dead and the rest have been run out of politics because “RINO” or, worse in the case of the best congressman I ever voted for, “GAY”.

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darthstar  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:20:42pm

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Dark_Falcon  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:22:21pm

re: #185 BeenHereAwhile

Big Rock Candy Mountain

That fits Sarah Palin pretty well. She’s the Wingnut Welfare Queen.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:24:12pm

re: #82 Reality Based Steve

I just realized what this whole “Denali - McKinley” thing reminds me of. I remember when Obama sent about 100 troops or so to Africa to help provide training and support for the hunt for Kony and The Lord’s Resistance Army.

Limbaugh in particular jumped on that, how Obama was targeting Christians. A lot of the RWNJs made Pavlov proud as they reflexively attacked Obama for his actions. After they figured out just who Kony and the LRA was, they did the “We never said that… nope, you’ve got us confused with someone else”.

FWIW, when I spent a year in Alaska about 20+ years ago, we all called it Denali.

RBS

They forgot about the LRA having children choose “short sleeve, or long sleeve.”

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Jenner7  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:24:50pm

re: #172 Jenner7

I think it started with Bush, but really peaked at Obama getting elected. And with Trump, they’ve hit bottom.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:32:21pm

Please, tell me again how the Republican Party isn’t dominated by ignorant fucking racist trash.

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BeachDem  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:47:47pm

re: #191 Jenner7

I think it started with Bush, but really peaked at Obama getting elected. And with Trump, they’ve hit bottom.

Okay, fine, so we’re supposed to pretend to take Donald Trump seriously and continue to indulge this fantasy so narcissistic that Kanye West has called him to take that shit down a notch…

Trump cites the conservative news port-a-potty, Breitbart, which means either he’s paying good money in exchange for blow jobs and clicks or he just doesn’t give a shit what his sources are. ‘Cause, see, for example, Trump offers the kind of proposal makes stupid people smile stupidly because they think it’s common sense…

For “high crime neighborhoods,” he sends us not to crime statistics or even a report of criminality. No, we get to click over to an article that is a summary of a caller to Laura Ingraham’s radio ear bleeder…

This isn’t an indictment of Breitbart. If you go to the circus, expect to see heaps of elephant dung. But it is an indictment of Trump, who doesn’t give a fuck who his “experts” are. rudepundit.blogspot.com

And our “news” media suck it up like Hoovers.

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BeachDem  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:51:39pm

re: #192 goddamnedfrank

Please, tell me again how the Republican Party isn’t dominated by ignorant fucking racist trash.

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Even more pathetic


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