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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:35:53pm
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darthstar  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:36:23pm

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:40:27pm
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darthstar  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:41:48pm

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Reality Based Steve  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:44:58pm

re: #4 darthstar

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Can’t be true…. All the RWNJs say that only liberals are “Low Information Voters”.

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:57:16pm

re: #4 darthstar

54% of Republicans think Obama is a ni-CLANG!

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2015 • 9:57:57pm

re: #4 darthstar

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We need a term that encompasses obstinate and aggressive ignorance. Because I don’t think a good chunk of the respondents are answering honestly, they know the correct answer but they reject it. It’s what I previously called the lie as a shibboleth. These GOP primary votes know their answers are full of shit, but they feel they can identify themselves from the other by repeating it with a straight face. And the sad thing is they repeat it so often that they start to believe it reflexively via some surface, mimetic portion of their brain though deeper down they know what they’re saying is complete horse shit.

It’s a kind of consensual mass brainwashing, a sociological pathology of weak minds who for whatever reason find themselves unwilling or unable to publicly reject this totally fantastical Party zeitgeist.

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 10:08:25pm

“It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever,” until it turns the clock back as much as it can.

-the GOP

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 31, 2015 • 10:08:30pm

cnn.com

Keep winning friends, Israel. Sigh.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 31, 2015 • 10:09:37pm

Any ideas? I was going to say wget but it looks like State has shut down directory access.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 31, 2015 • 10:09:44pm

re: #6 teleskiguy

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54 98% of Republicans think Obama is a ni-CLANG!

You’re way off.

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bratwurst  Aug 31, 2015 • 10:19:33pm

Sure, we’ve heard from a LOT of horrible people on the Denali thing…but let’s check in a with a human sack of garbage, shall we?

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Jenner7  Aug 31, 2015 • 10:31:40pm

I discovered this two weeks ago and I can’t get it out of my head.

The Weeknd Can’t Feel My Face

G’night.

Video

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Aug 31, 2015 • 11:04:28pm

re: #12 bratwurst

If McKinley hadn’t glommed Hawaii one of his successors would have. It was the last big chunk of land available to be Manifest Destinied good and hard.

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 11:08:11pm

I found this picture quite peculiar.

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William Lewis  Aug 31, 2015 • 11:10:16pm

re: #14 Higgs Boson’s Mate

If McKinley hadn’t glommed Hawaii one of his successors would have. It was the last big chunk of land available to be Manifest Destinied good and hard.

Too important to strategy in the Pacific Ocean for us not to have it. It was pure and simple imperialism and yet it’s one of those bad moments in our history that I have a hard time feeling bad about. If we had not moved the navy to Pearl Harbor from San Diego in May 1940, I think things regarding WWII in the Pacific could have been significantly different than things were in history.

For all of America’s mistakes pre & post war, it would have been worse for all of them in the Pacific basin had we lost.

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 11:16:15pm

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 11:18:43pm

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 11:19:06pm

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Lani  Aug 31, 2015 • 11:20:33pm

re: #16 William Lewis

It wasn’t the last. The Philippines was, but minds changed about that.

The Hawaiian government knew someone would take it over and curried favor with the UK, hoping for the best deal. That’s why the Union Jack is part of the state flag.

McKinley is not highly regarded here, and all the usual abuses of colonialism occurred after the islands were annexed.

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William Lewis  Aug 31, 2015 • 11:20:47pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

I found this picture quite peculiar.

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Fairly typical of the era. In 1939, the Chinese had been locked in a very viscous war with the Japanese since (officially) 1937 but years before that as well. All were liable for conscription and the C96 pistol with shoulder stock was a very popular carbine. If it is unfamiliar, well, that’s because western propaganda, er, “movies” tended to ignore them and their very desperate fights (by BOTH the Nationalists and Communists) against the fascists of Japan unless we could wrap our good white folks around the fight.

The The 1st American Volunteer Group (AVG) of the Chinese Air Force in 1941-1942, (aka The Flying Tigers) for the most famous example of us not caring unless white lives were at stake. Note: Claire Chennault was not guilty of this.

The John Birch scum would later parlay that same disinterest into their later assault on power.

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William Lewis  Aug 31, 2015 • 11:22:56pm

re: #20 Lani

It wasn’t the last. The Philippines was, but minds changed about that.

The Hawaiian government knew someone would take it over and curried favor with the UK, hoping for the best deal. That’s why the Union Jack is part of the state flag.

McKinley is not highly regarded here, and all the usual abuses of colonialism occurred after the islands were annexed.

Good reminder. The English were better thought of from very early on once the missionaries from New England showed up. I am of that background but I repented and have become an Anglican instead of a Congregationalist… ;)

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 11:23:59pm

re: #20 Lani

Why, hello there, hatchling! Welcome to the bouncy castle! It’s fun in here.

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 11:38:44pm

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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2015 • 11:40:47pm

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:22:40am

re: #20 Lani

It wasn’t the last. The Philippines was, but minds changed about that.

The Hawaiian government knew someone would take it over and curried favor with the UK, hoping for the best deal. That’s why the Union Jack is part of the state flag.

McKinley is not highly regarded here, and all the usual abuses of colonialism occurred after the islands were annexed.

Aloha hatchling.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:28:39am

Nice.

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William Lewis  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:31:22am

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

Nice.

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That’s a bit of people actually being Christian that the rest of us who pretend to follow Him should remember.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:34:23am

re: #28 William Lewis

That’s a bit of people actually being Christian that the rest of us who pretend to follow Him should remember.

Remember there are only about 330,000 people in Iceland.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 1:37:39am

re: #9 GlutenFreeJesus

cnn.com

Keep winning friends, Israel. Sigh.

They’re lucky he wasn’t a Ferguson cop making aliyah.

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Snarknado!  Sep 1, 2015 • 1:45:29am

So I’m running out for another museum crawl, but I have a conundrum for you all before I go…

Since Saturday evening, every time I try to access the LGF main page on my Android phone, I get taken to a site called “three” in the UK that says I’ve exhausted my credit and need to top up. That I should have exhausted my credit with them is no surprise, since I’ve never had dealings with them — they seem to be dealers in SIM cards for travelers.

It’s only a problem with the main page, not the articles, and only on my phone.

The only thing I can think of to do is clear out my history, but I’m loath to do that if it won’t solve the problem. Does anyone have any idea whether that will do it? Or WTF is going on here?

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 1:47:49am

re: #31 Snarknado!

So I’m running out for another museum crawl, but I have a conundrum for you all before I go…

Since Saturday evening, every time I try to access the LGF main page on my Android phone, I get taken to a site called “three” in the UK that says I’ve exhausted my credit and need to top up. That I should have exhausted my credit with them is no surprise, since I’ve never had dealings with them — they seem to be dealers in SIM cards for travelers.

It’s only a problem with the main page, not the articles, and only on my phone.

The only thing I can think of to do is clear out my history, but I’m loath to do that if it won’t solve the problem. Does anyone have any idea whether that will do it? Or WTF is going on here?

Phishing malware?

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Snarknado!  Sep 1, 2015 • 1:52:37am

re: #32 Decatur Deb

Phishing malware?

Could be, but the site seems reputable — and anyway, what I really want to know is why typing “littlegreenfootballs.com” now takes me to that site, and so does clicking on “front page” from any article page. Or rather, how to stop it — I don’t much care why it’s happening if I can make it not happen.

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KiTA  Sep 1, 2015 • 1:55:30am

re: #32 Decatur Deb

Phishing malware?

That sounds fishy (phishy?) but it might just be a redirecting advertisement. I myself have had clicking on things redirect to an odd advertisement page (Google Chrome on Win 10). The page still loads in a new window, but the original tab is redirected to a blank ad page.

It’s been my experience that a lot of redirecting ads, an absolute ton of them, are targeting Android and iOS because the average webdesigner doesn’t test on mobile so they can get away with doing it for significantly longer.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 3:20:15am

If a bad person apparently exposes a wrongdoing by a person you think is good, the worst thing to do is circle the wagons.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 3:38:50am

This happened over the weekend in my area:
Vintage WWII ship passes by Maysville en route to Pittsburgh

The USS LST 325 (Photo by Lorraine Mullikin)

According to lstmemorial.org, a website dedicated to the LST 325, the 73-year-old ship set sail on the Ohio River, from Evansville, Ind., Thursday en route to Pittsburgh, Pa., with an estimated arrival date in Pittsburgh of Sept. 1.

snip

The ship will dock at the North Shore Riverfront Park adjacent to Heinz Field, and be open for tours from Sept. 2-8. It will set sail for Cincinnati on Sept. 9 with an arrival date of Sept. 11. The ship will be open for tours in Cincinnati from Sept. 12-16. On Sept. 17, the ship will depart Cincinnati to return to Evansville.

The ship is an amphibious vessel that was designed to land battle ready tanks, troops and supplies on enemy shores, according to lstmemorial.org.

According to the website, The USS LST 325 participated in several operations during World War II, including D-Day in Normandy, Operation HUSKY, and the invasion of Sicily and is now the last fully-operational World War II LST.

“This particular LST was originally known as LST-325 during the Second World War, USNS LST-325 during its arctic operations in the 1950’s, and later L-144 (A/G Syros) while it was in the service of the Greek Navy,” the website says.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 1, 2015 • 3:48:39am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 4:13:46am

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Lidane  Sep 1, 2015 • 4:15:26am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 4:16:42am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 4:23:03am

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 4:23:44am

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

Need to check Freerepublic stat.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 4:27:33am

Hmm, just for one year.

Also, no splodey freeper heads as of now.

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CleverToad  Sep 1, 2015 • 4:29:51am

re: #25 teleskiguy

“You remind me of Paul… My pet tarantula…”

I flash to Witch Hazel whenever I see one of these little buggers. Gotta love the classics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 4:32:25am

re: #43 Nyet

Hmm, just for one year.

Obviously a limited time offer…

Also, no splodey freeper heads as of now.

They probably aren’t awake yet.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 4:33:15am

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

There is one thread, and it does mention absolution for abortion, but the focus is on SSPX, so maybe they didn’t notice…

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 4:33:17am

Well this sucks.

I left my lunch at home.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 4:33:18am

When the circus comes to town:

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Lidane  Sep 1, 2015 • 4:34:04am

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

It depends on how much bail money the RWNJs are willing to pay for.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 4:52:27am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 4:53:47am

Yep, prayer circles are a protest thing in Kentucky…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 4:56:39am

Fundies are easy to recognize in eastern Kentucky.

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CleverToad  Sep 1, 2015 • 4:56:55am

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

Contempt, of course, rather than lose all that attention. At this point she’s gotten herself on a soapbox she can’t step down from.

If she goes to jail does the rest of the office function without her and issue licenses as they’re obliged to? How many people work in that office, presumably at a much lower salary?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:00:24am

re: #53 CleverToad

Contempt, of course, rather than lose all that attention. At this point she’s gotten herself on a soapbox she can’t step down from.

If she goes to jail does the rest of the office function without her and issue licenses as they’re obliged to? How many people work in that office, presumably at a much lower salary?

If she goes to jail, a temporary appointment can be made (most likely one of the deputy clerks—one of which is her son).
I don’t know how many people work in her office. My county, which has a much smaller population, has four or five deputy clerks.

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Lidane  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:03:13am

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

If she goes to jail, a temporary appointment can be made (most likely one of the deputy clerks—one of which is her son).
I don’t know how many people work in her office. My county, which has a much smaller population, has four or five deputy clerks.

Thing is, the county clerk’s office is legally obligated to issue marriage licenses. At some point, they’re going to have to start doing their jobs. Couples in Rowan County shouldn’t have to drive to another county to exercise their constitutional rights.

Something is going to have to give.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:04:32am

The Rowan County Clerk’s office was scheduled to open four minutes ago.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:06:30am

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Lidane  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:07:18am

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

So she’s got a bail fund set up. Wonder how long it will last.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:07:45am

re: #58 Lidane

So she’s got a bail fund set up. Wonder how long it will last.

Grifters gonna grift…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:08:14am

re: #58 Lidane

So she’s got a bail fund set up. Wonder how long it will last.

She has something set up.
She was smiling as she went into the office earlier.

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CleverToad  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:08:57am

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hope not too many people have routine business they’d hoped to conduct at that office today. The circus is going to take up most of the time and the parking places. :P

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:09:55am

Casey from Casey county…

Your move bro

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:10:53am

re: #62 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Casey from Casey county…

Your move bro

he’s gonna fight to the death…

sigh

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Lidane  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:11:30am

At some point the state of Kentucky is going to have to put their foot down. The normal business in this county office cannot be carried out because of the wannabe martyr who is the clerk.

It’s one thing to make a stand on your beliefs. It’s another to bring the normal functions of an office to a halt for your own agenda.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:11:35am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:14:25am

what an arrogant eejit

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aagcobb  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:15:28am

As I said yesterday, getting arrested and spending a bit of time in jail will enhance Kim Davis’ martyrdom status when she goes on the rightwing grifter circuit.

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CleverToad  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:18:34am

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

Decision made under God’s authority in the certain knowledge that she’s going to profit from it. Prosperity gospel in action.

*sigh*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:18:50am

Who would have ever thought that my wingnut county would be more progressive than Rowan County.
My county clerk has already issued SSM licenses and it was no big deal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:21:28am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:24:24am

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:24:49am

re: #12 bratwurst

Sure, we’ve heard from a LOT of horrible people on the Denali thing…but let’s check in a with a human sack of garbage, shall we?

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And NOT one word about Pluto!

Disney is an American Icon!

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:25:12am

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

what an arrogant eejit

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Fuck your god, do your fucking job.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:26:43am

I am soooo embarrassed by this harridan’s stupidity.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:26:56am

re: #59 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Grifters gonna grift…

I wish I had more updings to give!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:27:55am

Kim threw her deputy clerks to the media wolves.
She is hiding inside her office.

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Joe Bacon  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:29:18am

The Republican Party has mutated into Monty Python’s Silly Party

Election Night Special

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aagcobb  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:31:50am

re: #16 William Lewis

Too important to strategy in the Pacific Ocean for us not to have it. It was pure and simple imperialism and yet it’s one of those bad moments in our history that I have a hard time feeling bad about. If we had not moved the navy to Pearl Harbor from San Diego in May 1940, I think things regarding WWII in the Pacific could have been significantly different than things were in history.

For all of America’s mistakes pre & post war, it would have been worse for all of them in the Pacific basin had we lost.

Maybe. Or maybe, if the US had backed the Queen and returned her to power we could’ve leased a naval base from the Kingdom at Pearl Harbor. And while the Chinese suffered under Japanese occupation, they suffered through the Chinese civil war and the subsequent communist dictatorship as well. We’ll never know how history would’ve changed.

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Joe Bacon  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:31:55am

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

what an arrogant eejit

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Hey, she wants to go on the Right Wing Church Circuit and get all that Je$u$ money from those gullible fools!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:32:31am

This WKYT reporter has video in her twitter TL.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:32:51am
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Alyosha  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:33:26am

Never a dull moment.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:33:48am

If people want to live in theocracy, the need to find another country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:34:59am

Casey Davis was on CNN this morning:

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Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:35:23am

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kim threw her deputy clerks to the media wolves.
She is hiding inside her office.

She’s like one of those Japanese soldiers who didn’t know that WWII was over and kept fighting in the jungle for 25 years. The soldiers had an excuse, they really didn’t know that the war was over. She does and refuses to except it.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:37:27am

‘Gadget allergy’ disability recognised in French court

A French woman has won a court-ordered disability grant after claiming to suffer from a ‘gadget allergy’ due to electromagnetic radiation.

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coin operated  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:38:03am

Martyrdom or not, I hope to see both Davis clowns frog marching soon.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:38:12am

Why isn’t Kim Davis being arrested, impeached, removed from her position, etc? WTF?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:39:07am

re: #88 Dr. Matt

Why isn’t Kim Davis being arrested, impeached, removed from her position, etc? WTF?

The morning is still young…

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aagcobb  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:40:28am

re: #88 Dr. Matt

Why isn’t Kim Davis being arrested, impeached, removed from her position, etc? WTF?

The Attorney General may soon appoint a special prosecutor to investigate her for official misconduct. Now that there is no stay in effect protecting her from the US District Court’s order, her jailing and/or fine is just a matter of getting a contempt of court hearing scheduled, I guess within a couple of weeks, in front of Judge Bunning.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:40:50am

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

The morning is still young…

Has anyone filed a lawsuit against her yet? I hope so. And I hope she ends up dead broke.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:41:55am

re: #91 Dr. Matt

Has anyone filed a lawsuit against her yet? I hope so. And I hope she ends up dead broke.

There are several lawsuits already filed against her.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:41:57am
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aagcobb  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:42:11am

re: #91 Dr. Matt

Has anyone filed a lawsuit against her yet? I hope so. And I hope she ends up dead broke.

Yes. The US District Court has ordered her to issue marriage licenses, and the US Supreme Court denied her request for a stay yesterday.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:43:44am

re: #94 aagcobb

Yes. The US District Court has ordered her to issue marriage licenses, and the US Supreme Court denied her request of a stay yesterday.

In other words, the same “people” that claim to uphold the constitution and the bible, pick and choose which parts they want to obey, i.e., gun humping and homophobia

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:45:53am

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CleverToad  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:47:41am

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

Again.
Wonder what her employees thought of her as a boss before this brouhaha, and what they think now. Not giving the impression of a competent manager, in this self-inflicted crisis.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:48:55am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:49:41am

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Alyosha  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:50:36am

Weird seeing this situation unfold in real time in that kind of minor bureaucratic setting. If Kafka wrote bad comedy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:50:57am

I know it’s awful to make fun of a person’s appearance, but:

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:51:04am

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s the Confederate Flag Guy Moment. Assistants to Kim Davis overheard her saying, “If I’ve lost Confederate Flag Guy, I’ve lost Middle America”

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:51:45am
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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:52:03am

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

Think he’s got to go back further. He’s a revolutionary war re-enactor. Tricorn hat and garb is from 1790s, not 1850s/1860s.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:53:26am

Morning, Lizards.

Smoke detector apparently decided to express a low battery via a false alarm. Best as we can tell. No sign of smoke. The other smoke alarm (the one that will actually alert firefighters) has made nary a peep.

But I don’t think I’m getting back to sleep any time soon.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:54:22am

re: #104 lawhawk

Think he’s got to go back further. He’s a revolutionary war re-enactor. Tricorn hat and garb is from 1790s, not 1850s/1860s.

I was just about to say that. Guy could be an Eleventy-One Percenter, they like to use colonial dudes in their memes.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:54:23am

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

I know it’s awful to make fun of a person’s appearance, but:

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She IS looking rather Westboro Baptist today.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:56:11am

It seems that the anti-gay right wing extremists take on the 1A is completely divorced from reality. They think that it gives them the right to impose their religious views on everyone else as Davis is doing here.

That’s precisely the way that the 1A is not supposed to work. It’s supposed to prevent a person from using government to impose their religious views on everyone else.

You are entitled to your own religious views, but you cannot impose them on anyone else as part of a government policy - the law is supposed to be neutral on its face.

The religious objections to Davis doing her damned job in marrying couples who are of the same sex reeks of the same kind of logic that right wingers were pushing decades ago when couples sought to marry someone of a different color (intermarriage - miscegenation). The logic failed then, and it fails now.

These people are using religion to further their hate. And it’s leading only to suffering.

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:56:12am

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

what an arrogant eejit

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:57:49am

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

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Any ideas? I was going to say wget but it looks like State has shut down directory access.

If they made the emails individually clickable that’s fucking brilliant.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:58:05am

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:59:25am

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 5:59:44am

re: #106 The Vicious Babushka

No idea what the red flag he’s toting around says - could be molon labe or some other kind of nonsense.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:03:54am

re: #113 lawhawk

No idea what the red flag he’s toting around says - could be molon labe or some other kind of nonsense.

It’s a version of the Huntington (WV) Militia flag.
huntingtonmilitia.com

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CleverToad  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:04:59am

Off to deal with the Real World for a few hours. Will have to re-join this thrilling drama in progress later.

Will there be an arrest? Will there be a riot? Will anyone get any actual work done at the county office or the local TV station today? Tune in next time for the next exciting installment of Spotlight Seekers: KY…

sheesh

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:05:41am

re: #104 lawhawk

Think he’s got to go back further. He’s a revolutionary war re-enactor. Tricorn hat and garb is from 1790s, not 1850s/1860s.

He’s just happy he got to put on his outfit one more time. It’s been a looooong time since Glenn Beck held a rally.

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Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:07:19am

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

My friend on Kim Davis: “Like, what? People get fined $200k and go to prison for downloading Britney Spears mp3s but THIS is untouchable?”

I’m not a lawyer, but people should go to jail for listening to Spears…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:08:47am

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ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:09:02am

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Whoa! That is a huge statement for Catholics.

It is also a real issue for Republican politicians. Say, like Rick Santorum.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:11:07am

re: #119 ObserverArt

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:11:32am

re: #108 lawhawk

These people are using religion to further their hate. And it’s leading only to suffering.

We have a history of that in this country.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:12:06am

Does anyone see a problem with defining sharia to mean any time someone decides to impose religious “laws” on a secular government?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:13:23am

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:16:06am

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gotta love the spin. The Pope doesn’t want to forgive these women. He only gave the power to the priests for mere one year to forgive them. At the same time he gave the absolution power to the SSPX priests, thus continuing his predecessor’s policy of coddling that nest of antisemites.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:17:27am

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

Casey Davis was on CNN this morning:

Is this the bicycle riding freedom fighter?

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:18:24am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:18:48am

re: #125 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Is this the bicycle riding freedom fighter?

yep

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:18:58am

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I love how it a Priest (a man) has the discretion to forgive what only (according to the Church) only God can forgive.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:19:02am

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

what an arrogant eejit

Upding

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:19:54am

re: #73 Eventual Carrion

Fuck your god, do your fucking job.

Do your job, quit or be fired.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:21:15am

The Holocaust denier bishop Richard Williamson was only expelled from SSPX after some technical insubordination issues surfaced, they were fine with his Holocaust denial.

On 16 October 2013, the society offered to perform a funeral for Nazi war-criminal Erich Priebke, but the ceremony did not take place due to protests by some 500 people outside the headquarters of the society in Albano, near Rome. The local authorities of the Catholic Church had refused him a public funeral, citing a rule of canon law that, unless they gave some signs of repentance before death, a public funeral must be refused to manifest sinners to whom it cannot be granted without public scandal of the faithful.[61][62] The society issued a statement on its website saying, “A Christian who was baptized and received the sacraments of confession and the Eucharist, no matter what his faults and sins were, to the extent that he dies reconciled with God and the church, has a right to the celebration of the holy Mass and a funeral.”

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ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:22:12am

re: #124 Nyet

Gotta love the spin. The Pope doesn’t want to forgive these women. He only gave the power to the priests for mere one year to forgive them. At the same time he gave the absolution power to the SSPX priests, thus continuing his predecessor’s policy of coddling that nest of antisemites.

Agreed, But it still is a major thing just to mention absolve and abortion in any statement from a Catholic Pope.

I think we’ll be able to judge how big it is by the backlash or lack thereof.

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Mattand  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:22:23am

re: #119 ObserverArt

Whoa! That is a huge statement for Catholics.

It is also a real issue for Republican politicians. Say, like Rick Santorum.

I just hate the whole patronizing, idiotic idea that a woman needs to “forgiven” at all for having an abortion in the first place. But, yeah, Franics is going to make some heads go full metal Scanners this morning.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:22:39am

Because…
The cat is wearing a hat
And…
That cat looks pretty damn good in that hat

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:23:17am

How the Billionaire Kingpins of School Privatization Got Stopped in Their Own Back Yard
A unique coalition in Little Rock, Arkansas is pushing back hard on a Walton Family-funded attempt at a charter takeover.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:23:35am

more circus:

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:24:06am

re: #132 ObserverArt

Agreed, But it still is a major thing just to mention absolve and abortion in any statement from a Catholic Pope.

I think we’ll be able to judge how big it is by the backlash or lack thereof.

BULLSHIT! He can fish all he wants, but this fish ain’t bitin’!

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Ian G.  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:24:10am

Hi all, back from vacation to see something so idiotic from the right that my brain is hurting (must be a day that ends in “y”) about that great mountain in Alaska. Well, the only thing I remember from Palin’s incoherent resignation speech as AK governor was her reference to the mountain as Denali.

But to placate the right, I offer to name another mountain after a white man from Ohio. Stone Mountain in Georgia should be renamed “Mount Sherman”. I’d also add a statue of Billy Tecumseh on top, flipping off the traitors carved into the rock below him.

On a more serious note, it’s well past time to stop calling Mt Everest that name, and restore its local names (Sagarmatha in Nepalese or Chomolungma in Tibetan).

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:25:58am

From a Catholic freeper:

Moreover, earlier in his pontificate, this Pope was pretty hard on priests. He seemed to be bashing them on a daily basis. This move to grant all priests in the world the faculty to lift the censure which results from procuring an abortion is a sign of his confidence in priests… for a change.

I take heart from this bold move

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:26:57am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:27:29am

re: #139 Nyet

From a Catholic freeper:

Because it’s all about the priests

—gah!

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:27:38am

#138 Ian G.

On a more serious note, it’s well past time to stop calling Mt Everest that name, and restore its local names (Sagarmatha in Nepalese or Chomolungma in Tibetan).

Agree. Can’t upding your comment from work or I would.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:28:37am

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:28:43am

re: #124 Nyet

Gotta love the spin. The Pope doesn’t want to forgive these women. He only gave the power to the priests for mere one year to forgive them. At the same time he gave the absolution power to the SSPX priests, thus continuing his predecessor’s policy of coddling that nest of antisemites.

re: #128 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I love how it a Priest (a man) has the discretion to forgive what only (according to the Church) only God can forgive.

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There’s a whole lot of breathless reporting on this. The trend to take that discretion from priests is a relatively recent side effect of the anti-abortion mania in the church. Killing, prenatal or otherwise, was not a matter for excommunication. Using the Holy Year “for now” is probably a way to tiptoe out of the corner the hierarchy has painted itself into.

(The church has always (i.e. from earliest doctrinal standardization) held that priests can bind or loosen via the sacrament formerly known as Penance.)

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:29:43am

re: #141 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

It’s about the power. The women must beg for forgiveness.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:30:16am

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RadicalModerate  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:30:31am

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So, is it her belief that this doesn’t apply to her? That section regarding “without favor, affection, or partiality” is pretty damned specific to this situation.

30A.020 Oath of clerk and deputies.

Every clerk and deputy, in addition to the oath prescribed by Section 228 of the Constitution, shall, before entering on the duties of his office, take the following oath in presence of the Circuit Court: “I, ….., do swear that I will well and truly discharge the duties of the office of ………….. County Circuit Court clerk, according to the best of my skill and judgment, making the due entries and records of all orders, judgments, decrees, opinions and proceedings of the court, and carefully filing and preserving in my office all books and papers which come to my possession by virtue of my office; and that I will not knowingly or willingly commit any malfeasance of office, and will faithfully execute the duties of my office without favor, affection or partiality, so help me God.” The fact that the oath has been administered shall be entered on the record of the Circuit Court.
Effective: January 2, 1978
History: Created 1976 (1st Extra. Sess.) Ky. Acts ch. 21, sec. 2, effective January 2, 1978

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ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:30:41am

re: #137 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

BULLSHIT! He can fish all he wants, but this fish ain’t bitin’!

Let me ask it this way.

Do you think he needed to say anything at all about abortion and being able to forgive if nothing has or is changing?

If he didn’t , then why did he?

I understand your’s and other’s position on Catholics and birth control and abortion. I agree. It is one of the many reasons I am not a practicing Catholic even after years of being steeped in it.

All I am saying is it is a big thing for the Pope to even come out and make the statement. To me that indicates he may well be putting a little crack in some long held thinking. If he is not, there was no reason to make the statement.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:30:41am

Anyway, primary sources are the best.

press.vatican.va

One of the serious problems of our time is clearly the changed relationship with respect to life. A widespread and insensitive mentality has led to the loss of the proper personal and social sensitivity to welcome new life. The tragedy of abortion is experienced by some with a superficial awareness, as if not realizing the extreme harm that such an act entails. Many others, on the other hand, although experiencing this moment as a defeat, believe that they have no other option. I think in particular of all the women who have resorted to abortion. I am well aware of the pressure that has led them to this decision. I know that it is an existential and moral ordeal. I have met so many women who bear in their heart the scar of this agonizing and painful decision. What has happened is profoundly unjust; yet only understanding the truth of it can enable one not to lose hope. The forgiveness of God cannot be denied to one who has repented, especially when that person approaches the Sacrament of Confession with a sincere heart in order to obtain reconciliation with the Father. For this reason too, I have decided, notwithstanding anything to the contrary, to concede to all priests for the Jubilee Year the discretion to absolve of the sin of abortion those who have procured it and who, with contrite heart, seek forgiveness for it. May priests fulfil this great task by expressing words of genuine welcome combined with a reflection that explains the gravity of the sin committed, besides indicating a path of authentic conversion by which to obtain the true and generous forgiveness of the Father who renews all with his presence.

A final consideration concerns those faithful who for various reasons choose to attend churches officiated by priests of the Fraternity of St Pius X. This Jubilee Year of Mercy excludes no one. From various quarters, several Brother Bishops have told me of their good faith and sacramental practice, combined however with an uneasy situation from the pastoral standpoint. I trust that in the near future solutions may be found to recover full communion with the priests and superiors of the Fraternity. In the meantime, motivated by the need to respond to the good of these faithful, through my own disposition, I establish that those who during the Holy Year of Mercy approach these priests of the Fraternity of St Pius X to celebrate the Sacrament of Reconciliation shall validly and licitly receive the absolution of their sins.

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Varek Raith  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:30:54am

re: #146 FormerDirtDart

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FFS.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:31:29am

re: #148 ObserverArt

He didn’t need to say anything about the bigoted SSPX, but he did. Why did he?

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:32:36am

You must be repentant and on your knees, and only then, maybe, you will be forgiven.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:35:09am
Bishop Bernard Fellay, the society’s superior general, said those most opposed to Rome granting canonical recognition to the SSPX have been “the enemies of the Church: the Jews, the Masons, the modernists”.
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darthstar  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:35:35am

Dodgeball…the best PE activity ever…

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:35:42am

re: #151 Nyet

He didn’t need to say anything about the bigoted SSPX, but he did. Why did he?

Because they’re causing a lot of confusion, especially in the RW side most likely to freak about abortion.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:36:01am

Yawn.

I’m a hypocrite? For what - pointing out that the 1A doesn’t say what these idiots think it says? Or allows them to do? Kim Davis is a govt functionary. She has to follow the law - not make up her own law. That’s a textbook violation of the 1A.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:37:39am

re: #156 Decatur Deb

Because they’re causing a lot of confusion, especially in the RW side most likely to freak about abortion.

I didn’t understand your answer.

If they’re causing confusion, reiterate that they’re a bunch of excommunicated schismatics not having anything to do with the church. Don’t coddle them.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:38:25am

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

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As a Bible Believing Christian, that job is her God-Given RIGHT!!!

/gah

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:38:46am

re: #145 Nyet

It’s about the power. The women must beg for forgiveness.

yup

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:39:46am

2010!

Tom Toles
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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:40:11am

re: #158 Nyet

I didn’t understand your answer.

If they’re causing confusion, reiterate that they’re a bunch of excommunicated schismatics not having anything to do with the church. Don’t coddle them.

But they do have something to do with the church. They still can, but may not, validly administer the sacraments. He’s trying to reel them and their flocks back in.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:40:49am

#157 lawhawk:

I was told in the military that I was there to defend the constitution, but I didn’t get to enjoy most of the rights. As a government employee, she’s there to make it easier for others to enjoy them.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:41:35am

re: #162 Decatur Deb

So can the Russian Orthodox Church, why doesn’t he try it with them? //

Why would he want a bunch of Jew-haters back in the flock?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:42:37am

re: #148 ObserverArt

Let me ask it this way.

Do you think he needed to say anything at all about abortion and being able to forgive if nothing has or is changing?

If he didn’t , then why did he? …

I don’t really care what his strategy is.

I won’t take him seriously until women are treated as human beings by the church. When Women are eligible to be pope —when a woman is able to choose motherhood — then I will believe the Church is doing the work of G-d.

Until then, it does the work of male human beings —straight or not—it is in the business of protecting their power and interests.

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ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:42:43am

re: #151 Nyet

He didn’t need to say anything about the bigoted SSPX, but he did. Why did he?

All I can think of is this Pope is trying to patch a lot of crap up, bring as many people back into the church, hit a reset button and see if the whole stinking thing can be dragged into the modern world.

Just a gut feeling on my part. I actually do not follow Catholic policy all that much.

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:45:37am

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:46:13am

re: #164 Nyet

So can the Russian Orthodox Church, why doesn’t he try it with them? //

Why would he want a bunch of Jew-haters back in the flock?

The status of the Orthodox priests is questionable from the RC viewpoint—the succession of their individual bishops would have to be researched historically. The RC is determinedly universal. Its ultimate goal is to have every asshole in communion.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:46:53am

re: #165 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

One of the arguments for the exclusion of women from priesthood is that all the apostles were male.

Well then, all the priests must be Jewish too. /

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No Country For Old Haters  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:47:07am

re: #157 lawhawk

Yawn.

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I’m a hypocrite? For what - pointing out that the 1A doesn’t say what these idiots think it says? Or allows them to do? Kim Davis is a govt functionary. She has to follow the law - not make up her own law. That’s a textbook violation of the 1A.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:49:06am

Francis is trying to deflect public attention from the banking scandal. He knows the Church would not survive as public opinion now stands, if the full scope of the Church’s involvment in world affairs were known.

The Church is not a democracy and transparancy would collapse their whole power structure.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:49:27am

re: #168 Decatur Deb

The ROC concedes that the Orthodox sacraments are valid by apostolic succession.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:51:06am

I’ll concede that Francis is a much better, gentler asshole than usual. Still an asshole though. Goes with the office.

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ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:52:32am

re: #165 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I don’t really care what his strategy is.

I won’t take him seriously until women are treated as human beings by the church. When Women are eligible to be pope —when a woman is able to choose motherhood — then I will believe the Church is doing the work of G-d.

Until then, it does the work of male human beings —straight or not—it is in the business of protecting their power and interests.

I agree. Again. I am no longer a practicing Catholic for many of the same reasons you point out and even some more.

I am only commenting based on the news of what is happening with the new Pope since he has been in position. I am interested in watching what he is up to only because I was raised and schooled in the Catholic Church and all my family and relatives and a good portion of my friends are from a similar background.

Pope Francis is an interesting political figure.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:52:42am

Women are not eligible for all the Sacraments in the Church. Nuns do not take Holy Orders.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:52:43am

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:53:31am

re: #174 ObserverArt

I agree. Again. I am no longer a practicing Catholic for many of the same reasons you point out and even some more.

I am only commenting based on the news of what is happening with the new Pope since he has been in position. I am interested in watching what he is up to only because I was raised and schooled in the Catholic Church and all my family and relatives and a good portion of my friends are from a similar background.

Pope Francis is an interesting political figure.

sorry, I don’t agree, he is another gold-leaf ornamented figurehead, like all the others.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:54:15am

I certainly won’t dictate to the religious how they should practice their religion, but I reserve the right to laugh at their reasons.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:54:39am

I know I sound very hard-assed when it comes to the RC church and the Pope. Please remember that I am the gender that is not considered human by this group.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:56:35am

re: #172 Nyet

The ROC concedes that the Orthodox sacraments are valid by apostolic succession.

When last I paid attention to that, they accepted the idea, but were not sure it extended to all the lines of succession. That was one of the stumbling blocks at earlier attempts at reunification. A similar situation held with the Anglicans for a number of generations after Henry VIII.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:56:44am

re: #179 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I am the gender that is not considered human by this group

Well, I would call it an exaggeration, but anyway it’s not better than the other conservative Christian or, more generally, Abrahamic traditions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:57:14am

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:57:49am

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:58:37am

re: #173 Nyet

I’ll concede that Francis is a much better, gentler asshole than usual. Still an asshole though. Goes with the office.

Some degree of assholery is inherent in just about any position higher than Brigadier General. And that’s being liberal.

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ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:58:59am

re: #177 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

sorry, I don’t agree, he is another gold-leaf ornamented figurehead, like all the others.

I am not asking you to agree to anything. And you can deny he is a political figure all you want. It however ignores he speaks for a huge part of the world and that alone makes him a political figure.

I’m not much on fascists like Hitler, Mussolini, Franco and others. Don’t like them at all. But it would be stupid of me to say they are not political figures.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:59:02am

re: #181 Nyet

Well, I would call it an exaggeration, but anyway it’s not better then the other conservative Christian or, more generally, Abrahamic traditions.

I am really tired of non-women deciding what is true for women.

Either I have civil rights or I don’t.

Humans have civil rights —I don’t according to the Church.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:59:12am

re: #184 Decatur Deb

Some degree of assholery is inherent in just about any position higher than Brigadier General. And that’s being liberal.

This stems not from his position.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 6:59:48am

re: #186 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

That doesn’t mean you’re not human to them though.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:00:28am

re: #188 Nyet

That doesn’t mean you’re not human to them though.

I forgot, some humans are more equal than others.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:00:46am

re: #185 ObserverArt

I am not asking you to agree to anything. And you can deny he is a political figure all you want. It however ignores he speaks for a huge part of the world and that alone makes him a political figure.

I’m not much on fascists like Hitler, Mussolini, Franco and others. Don’t like them at all. But it would be stupid of me to say they are not political figures.

I don’t agree that he is interesting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:00:55am

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ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:01:10am

re: #179 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I know I sound very hard-assed when it comes to the RC church and the Pope. Please remember that I am the gender that is not considered human by this group.

I don’t know if I ever asked or read a comment about it, but are you or were you Catholic?

If not, is your displeasure with the church due to your activity in women’s issues?

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:01:17am

re: #189 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I forgot, some humans are more equal than others.

In some ideologies. Still human though.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:01:54am

re: #192 ObserverArt

I don’t know if I ever asked or read a comment about it, but are you or were you Catholic?

If not, is your displeasure with the church due to your activity in women’s issues?

Oh yeah, 1-8 grade Catholic School.

I have personal experience.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:02:08am

re: #187 Nyet

This stems not from his position.

It does not arise from such positions, it is a selection factor for such positions.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:02:12am

re: #184 Decatur Deb

Some degree of assholery is inherent in just about any position higher than Brigadier General. And that’s being liberal.

In the Navy it was any Rank higher than Lt. Commander. One of my COs, a Commander, told me that directly when the Nav was trying to push me into OCS.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:03:15am

To clarify, it’s the MEN in the Church I have issues with.

The idea of Universal Church is a wonderful idea to me.

I’d just like to be able to participate fully -and not bow to any other human.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:03:45am

re: #195 Decatur Deb

It does not arise from such positions, it is a selection factor for such positions.

It arises from the ideology that anyone in his position has to defend.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:04:24am

LOL!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:04:34am

re: #186 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I am really tired of non-women deciding what is true for women.

Either I have civil rights or I don’t.

Humans have civil rights —I don’t according to the Church.

That might be the source of your angst—churches are not in the ‘civil’ business.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:05:18am

re: #193 Nyet

In some ideologies. Still human though.

There are no degrees of human. Either you are human (i.e have civil rights) or you don’t.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:06:01am

re: #201 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

There are no degrees of human. Either you are human (i.e have civil rights) or you don’t.

Being human doesn’t depend on civil rights. Slaves were thought of as human but had barely any rights.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:06:03am

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:07:13am

re: #200 Decatur Deb

That might be the source of your angst—churches are not in the ‘civil’ business.

I was taught in Catholic School that God loves all his children equally.

Tell me that doesn’t indicate equality?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:07:36am

re: #202 Nyet

Being human doesn’t depend on civil rights. Slaves were thought of as human but had barely any rights.

NO, they were 3/5 human.

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aagcobb  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:09:33am

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Ky AG may soon appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Kim Davis for official misconduct as well.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:10:10am

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:10:18am

The derp is strong this morning. And only appears to be growing. Progstoday and Hoft are in fine form with their baffling BS, which gets lapped up by those who don’t know, or care.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:10:40am

re: #205 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

NO, they were 3/5 human.

There was no such concept as a 3/5 human.

And before you quote the 3/5 compromise (which concerns only the US anyway, and I’m not talking about the US), no, that is not the same as “3/5 human”.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:10:42am

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ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:11:10am

re: #197 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

To clarify, it’s the MEN in the Church I have issues with.

The idea of Universal Church is a wonderful idea to me.

I’d just like to be able to participate fully -and not bow to any other human.

No, it is the Catholic Church you have issues with. You can’t get around the men because they run the show.

I got out because I don’t want to be a member of a club that I don’t agree with. To me it was and is hypocritical to be a part of something I do not believe or even agree with. I only went through it until I was 18 for my parents and considered it my right to walk away as an adult decision.

But as I always say, I respected the education and am glad to have had that disciplined education background.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:11:49am

re: #204 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I was taught in Catholic School that God loves all his children equally.

Tell me that doesn’t indicate equality?

Then why does he fuck some of them over so thoroughly? Equal is not identical, ask a nun.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:12:31am

re: #208 lawhawk

The derp is strong this morning. And only appears to be growing. Progstoday and Hoft are in fine form with their baffling BS, which gets lapped up by those who don’t know, or care.

In what was otherwise an OK column this morning, the Post’s Dana Milbank had to quote the SMOTI and his wacko website along with Ben of the Corn at the Dead Breitbarts as examples of Denali derp.

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:13:58am

#205 I Stand With Planned Parenthood:

That’s true of American slaves. The Old Testament documents a number of rules for slaves and how they were to be treated.

Once again showing that Southern Christians didn’t bother to read the book they carried around.

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steve_davis  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:14:44am

re: #12 bratwurst

Sure, we’ve heard from a LOT of horrible people on the Denali thing…but let’s check in a with a human sack of garbage, shall we?

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hey, karl, would Obama’s mother still have been born in Kansas? If so, that makes you kind of a dumbass.

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ChuckJager95  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:15:07am

re: #210 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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Tom Shillue is to comedy as Black Live Matter is to a criminal organization.

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ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:15:16am

re: #210 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Fox News Guest Host Calls Black Lives Matter A ‘Criminal Organization’
Comedian Tom Shillue denounced the Black Lives Matter movement as organized criminals whose protests should be stopped and whose leaders should be arrested.

Damn. He sure is not funny.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:16:18am

re: #211 ObserverArt

No, it is the Catholic Church you have issues with. You can’t get around the men because they run the show.

I got out because I don’t want to be a member of a club that I don’t agree with. To me it was and is hypocritical to be a part of something I do not believe or even agree with. I only went through it until I was 18 for my parents and considered it my right to walk away as an adult decision.

But as I always say, I respected the education and am glad to have had that disciplined education background.

re: #212 Decatur Deb

Then why does he fuck some of them over so thoroughly? Equal is not identical, ask a nun.

Again, I love how those who aren’t my gender, telling me what I think, feel and know.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:16:24am

re: #214 Belafon

Oh, they did. They even wrote very interesting Bible-based slavery apologias.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:18:07am

re: #218 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Again, I love how those who aren’t my gender, telling me what I think, feel and know.

What comment did that?

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Amory Blaine  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:18:15am

re: #149 Nyet

So it’s a jubilee year, temporary order for the year of mercy?

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:19:18am

re: #219 Nyet

Dabney was an evil fuck, but oh boy, his interpretation of the Bible fits the original meaning more than the current liberal interpretations.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:20:10am

re: #209 Nyet

There was no such concept as a 3/5 human.

And before you’re going to quote the 3/5 compromise (which concerns only the US anyway, and I’m not talking about the US), no, that is not the same as “3/5 human”.

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode-Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New-York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three.

You can split hairs all you want. 3/5 of a person is 3/5 human.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:20:27am

re: #221 Amory Blaine

Yep.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:21:56am

re: #208 lawhawk

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:22:52am

MODERN DAY ROSA PARKS!!!1!!!!!
Only if Rosa Parks was the bus driver who did not allow “certain people” to board the bus.

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ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:23:30am

re: #218 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Again, I love how those who aren’t my gender, telling me what I think, feel and know.

Is that what we are doing? I am agreeing with you except that you seem to want a change that isn’t coming in an organization that has been the way it is for hundreds of years.

Sorry you see it that way. I’ll not broach the subject with you further.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:23:32am

bbl

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:23:49am

re: #223 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I’m not splitting the hairs, I’m reading the text as it is.

Nowhere does it say that the slaves were considered 3/5 of humans or persons ontologically. What it says is that the said the representation numbers would be based on 3/5 of persons.

They were still persons. Humans.

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Tigger2  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:24:44am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:27:04am

re: #227 ObserverArt

Is that what we are doing? I am agreeing with you except that you seem to want a change that isn’t coming in an organization that has been the way it is for hundreds of years.

Sorry you see it that way. I’ll not broach the subject with you further.

If I felt you were trying to understand my point of view, I’d be more understanding. All I seem to hear is that I am wrong.

Much like Fox News telling black people that —well you know — Rationalization and Justification for continuning the current power structure that is destroying our species and much of the planet.

Saying the Church has always been this way isn’t a convincing argument to me. I’d like to hear how we can pressure it to change. Waiting for the Pope to hold out more than a carrot is a losing proposition —because the current power structure will doing nothing but bait us —take our money and continue with business as usual.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:29:30am

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:29:39am

Ahem…

Portuguese Empire: 1415 - 1999
Ottoman Empire: 1299 - 1922
Khmer Empire: 802 - 1432
Ethiopian Empire: 1270 - approx. 1935
Kanem Empire: 700 - 1376
Holy Roman Empire: 962 - 1806
Silla Empire: 57 B.C. - 935 C.E.
Venetian Empire: 697 - 1797
Kush Empire: 1070 B.C. - approx. 350 C.E.
Roman Empire: 27 B.C. - 1453 C.E.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:30:11am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:31:35am

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:31:42am

bbl

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:31:58am

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

Someone feels left out.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:33:39am

Basically, if we’re taking the Abrahamic sphere, being human = being a descendant of Adam (without any angels in your genealogy). Slaves were considered fully human. Their descendants of Adam status was not doubted. That they were without most rights was considered a result of the curse.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:34:10am

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

Casey Co clerk goes on CNN to remind people that he’s not issuing marriage licenses, either, just so you know.

Hey I’m a martyr hero, too, did you hear about my bicycle ride?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:34:49am

re: #239 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Hey I’m a martyr hero, too, did you hear about my bicycle ride?

Don’t forget me when you’re writing those checks!

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Mattand  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:34:56am

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #237 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In the fantasy world I live in, the CNN anchor would bluntly remind this asshole that the US is a secular nation, and his religious beliefs don’t get to trump the Constitution and the US Code.

I’m guessing that didn’t happen.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:35:10am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just like worse than Holocaust!!!!1

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:35:28am

re: #241 Mattand

In the fantasy world I live in, the CNN anchor would bluntly remind this asshole that the US is a secular nation, and his religious beliefs don’t get to trump the Constitution and the US Code.

I’m guessing that didn’t happen.

I have no idea, because verifying one way or another would require turning on CNN.

And it’s way too fucking early for that.

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aagcobb  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:35:48am

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I think he’s mad that no-one has sued him yet, and Kim is getting all the attention.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:36:00am

re: #230 Tigger2

O’Keefe is mostly upset because HC’s campaign doesn’t sell wife-beater tees.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:36:26am

ObserverArt

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:37:32am

re: #245 De Kolta Chair

O’Keefe is mostly upset because HC’s campaign doesn’t sell wife-beater tees.

How did OKeefe get across the boarder?
/

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Mattand  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:38:03am

re: #238 Nyet

Basically, if we’re taking the Abrahamic sphere, being human = being a descendant of Adam (without any angels in your genealogy). Slaves were considered fully human. Their descendants of Adam status was not doubted. That they were without most rights was considered a result of the curse.

LOL, to me, that just proves religion has been ruining people’s lives since at least the Bronze Age.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:38:29am

re: #233 De Kolta Chair

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Ahem…

Portuguese Empire: 1415 - 1999
Ottoman Empire: 1299 - 1922
Khmer Empire: 802 - 1432
Ethiopian Empire: 1270 - approx. 1935
Kanem Empire: 700 - 1376
Holy Roman Empire: 962 - 1806
Silla Empire: 57 B.C. - 935 C.E.
Venetian Empire: 697 - 1797
Kush Empire: 1070 B.C. - approx. 350 C.E.
Roman Empire: 27 B.C. - 1453 C.E.

Pharaonic Egypt: More than half of human history, even allowing for that Hyksos thing.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:39:01am

re: #248 Mattand

LOL, to me, that just proves religion has been ruining people’s lives since at least the Bronze Age.

Yes.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:41:20am

re: #210 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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Don’t criminals usually carry guns and threaten people? If so, the Tea Farty and Toothless Keepers are a criminal org, not the BLM folks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:41:21am

re: #241 Mattand

In the fantasy world I live in, the CNN anchor would bluntly remind this asshole that the US is a secular nation, and his religious beliefs don’t get to trump the Constitution and the US Code.

I’m guessing that didn’t happen.

On CNN he apparently said, “There is a power that is above what man may put on paper.”

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aagcobb  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:41:48am

re: #233 De Kolta Chair

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Ahem…

Portuguese Empire: 1415 - 1999
Ottoman Empire: 1299 - 1922
Khmer Empire: 802 - 1432
Ethiopian Empire: 1270 - approx. 1935
Kanem Empire: 700 - 1376
Holy Roman Empire: 962 - 1806
Silla Empire: 57 B.C. - 935 C.E.
Venetian Empire: 697 - 1797
Kush Empire: 1070 B.C. - approx. 350 C.E.
Roman Empire: 27 B.C. - 1453 C.E.

Pretty funny, the Chinese yuan gets devalued, and luap nor thinks its the dollar that is failing. Get grandpa another cup of broth and tuck him into his rocker with a warm afghan while he mutters about sound money.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:42:22am

re: #233 De Kolta Chair

If you think that the American “Empire” is going to collapse because of gay marriage, or because we’re not on the gold standard, or some other BS, then we’re not much of an empire in the first place.

And I don’t think that we’re an empire so much as a hegemony. We’ve got a huge sphere of influence, either direct or indirect, and it goes beyond mere military force, though that plays into things as well.

But the GOP appears hellbent on undermining the hegemony by diverting resources to building walls on both borders, which would cost billions and then billions more to staff them. They want to cut taxes even further, destroy the safety net, and spend on military gear, while not paying those in our service a proper wage (and certainly not providing sufficient care to those who have separated from service either with decent wages, health care, etc.).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:44:38am

The CNN person presses Casey Davis and he was deliberately obtuse.
He claims that SCOTUS has no power to call part of the Kentucky constitution unconstitutional.

Oh, and he’s a Benghazi troofer! He ends the interview about how Hillary killed those guys.

gaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh

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aagcobb  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:44:55am

re: #249 Decatur Deb

Pharaonic Egypt: More than half of human history, even allowing for that Hyksos thing.

“Empires” still going strong after millennia (unless you define them as requiring an actual monarch): British, Japanese, Russian, Chinese

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ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:45:02am

re: #246 Amory Blaine

ObserverArt

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Thanks!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:45:13am

DERP==>

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:46:33am

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:46:41am

#248 Mattand:

Remember, one of the reasons Judaism was popular is that, as reflected in the story of Abraham and Isaac, God no longer required the sacrifice of a child. It was a huge improvement over the other local religions.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:47:21am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:47:49am

bwhahahaaaa

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Tigger2  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:50:18am

re: #261 lawhawk

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They want no jail time, they are a lot nicer then I would have been.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:51:06am

Heh heh

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Mattand  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:51:48am

re: #260 Belafon

#248 Mattand:

Remember, one of the reasons Judaism was popular is that, as reflected in the story of Abraham and Isaac, God no longer required the sacrifice of a child. It was a huge improvement over the other local religions.

Eh. It’s religion. At the end of the day, it still subscribes to things like believing in an all powerful supernatural deity, and that eating certain foods anger him/her/it.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:51:57am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

On CNN he apparently said, “There is a power that is above what man may put on paper.”

Yes, mother nature. She will kick your ass (and your gods ass also).

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aagcobb  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:52:21am

re: #263 Tigger2

They want no jail time, they are a lot nicer then I would have been.

They are trying to deny her martyrdom status and bankrupt her instead.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:52:47am

re: #263 Tigger2

I would have sought jail time as well. Fines could easily be paid off with a gofundme or other such effort - so that the monetary pain would be avoided. Jail is not so easily avoided.

Guess they were trying to be magnanimous. They know that they’re likely to succeed.

Still, because of how fundraising will likely result in Davis not paying anything out of pocket, jail would be the proper outcome here.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:53:11am

re: #260 Belafon

#248 Mattand:

Remember, one of the reasons Judaism was popular is that, as reflected in the story of Abraham and Isaac, God no longer required the sacrifice of a child. It was a huge improvement over the other local religions.

I wouldn’t say that the Isaac sacrifice story shows this. Quite the contrary, it praised the readiness to sacrifice one’s child merely on God’s command. That Isaac was not sacrificed was not the point of the story. And Jephthah’s daughter was.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:55:14am

Is Charles playing with fonts again?

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aagcobb  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:55:23am

re: #268 lawhawk

I would have sought jail time as well. Fines could easily be paid off with a gofundme or other such effort - so that the monetary pain would be avoided. Jail is not so easily avoided.

Guess they were trying to be magnanimous. They know that they’re likely to succeed.

Still, because of how fundraising will likely result in Davis not paying anything out of pocket, jail would be the proper outcome here.

I would assume it would be a daily fine that would continue as long as she refuses to do her job. If set high enough (I would like to see $10k per day), the fund raising may not be able to keep up with the fines after a couple of weeks, then Davis would be facing financial ruin.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:56:10am

Somebody attempting to defend Kim Davis with this lame shit==>

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:56:42am

re: #271 aagcobb

I would assume it would be a daily fine that would continue as long as she refuses to do her job. If set high enough (I would like to see $10k per day), the fund raising may not be able to keep up with the fines after a couple of weeks, then Davis would be facing financial ruin.

daily fine plus a per incident of non-compliance fine.
The latter could be particularly spectacular since Kim Davis isn’t issuing marriage licenses to anyone.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:58:29am

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Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:58:39am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

On CNN he apparently said, “There is a power that is above what man may put on paper.”

And we know this because the bible is written…on paper

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:58:55am

what in the utter fuck==>

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:59:01am

That’s not the only thing they don’t understand

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Tigger2  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:59:02am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

Somebody attempting to defend Kim Davis with this lame shit==>

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 7:59:49am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

Somebody attempting to defend Kim Davis with this lame shit==>

She’s not keeping them from marrying. They have other options. They r demanding she conform 2 their worldview. #tcot t.co
— Kay Brooks (@KayBrooks) September 1, 2015

Uh, no….they are demanding that Kim Davis does her fucking job. Jebus. What idiots.

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Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:00:25am

re: #278 Tigger2

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It’s not about worldview, it’s about doing your fucking job.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:01:20am

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ObserverArt  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:01:25am

re: #231 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

If I felt you were trying to understand my point of view, I’d be more understanding. All I seem to hear is that I am wrong.

Much like Fox News telling black people that —well you know — Rationalization and Justification for continuning the current power structure that is destroying our species and much of the planet.

Saying the Church has always been this way isn’t a convincing argument to me. I’d like to hear how we can pressure it to change. Waiting for the Pope to hold out more than a carrot is a losing proposition —because the current power structure will doing nothing but bait us —take our money and continue with business as usual.

Well, the key word here is “we” as used in your second sentence in the last paragraph.

I am not part of we. I am not a practicing member, therefore I have already determined there would be no change and walked away due to that and more.

It is a private club and if you are a member, you give up rights they do not grant. That to me is the church’s biggest issue and one that confused me. They have members that do not buy what they are selling. It is full up with all kinds of hypocrisy. How can that be good for anyone?

If anything I think the new Pope has a feel that is his biggest issue too.

Maybe you saw my comments as telling you what to do because you are interested in change in the church.

And interestingly, it is also the biggest issue with the politics of this country. We have a bunch of people that are hypocrites of our Constitution. And one of the big things driving this mess is…religion!

That separation thing.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:02:04am

re: #279 Dr. Matt

Uh, no….they are demanding that Kim Davis does her fucking job. Jebus. What idiots.

Hurr hurr they could go to another state over there no problem!

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Tigger2  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:02:07am

re: #280 Iwouldprefernotto

It’s not about worldview, it’s about doing your fucking job.

It is her religious view that is keeping her from doing her job, that needs to be pointed out.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:02:53am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

I shudder to think what game they will make about the Holocaust.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:03:03am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

what in the utter fuck==>

Yeeesh.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:04:16am

re: #285 Nyet

I shudder to think what game they will make about the Holocaust.

I’m sure there already are games about the Holocaust.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:04:59am

re: #287 The Vicious Babushka

Hopefully without tetris.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:05:11am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

what in the utter fuck==>

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How can someone be that braindead and still find his way to the executive bathroom?

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:05:28am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:06:09am

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

O’Keefe confirms “I’m not running for president”
— Olivia Nuzzi

Can’t begin to express how all the sadz this makes me.

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A Cranky One  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:06:15am

Just saw the following alarm on a device, immediately thought of CCJ.

Backup Monitor: Last Dump taken -1 days ago. See logs for more details.
Defined threshold: 7 days
Take another Dump!

Guess I’m a sick puppy.

/

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:07:47am

re: #277 De Kolta Chair

That’s not the only thing they don’t understand

Twitter: How does it work?

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makeitstop  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:08:01am

re: #268 lawhawk

I would have sought jail time as well. Fines could easily be paid off with a gofundme or other such effort - so that the monetary pain would be avoided. Jail is not so easily avoided.

But isn’t she prohibited from doing crowd funding due to the fact that she’s breaking the law?

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ChuckJager95  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:08:02am

So I’ve spent the last twenty minutes arguing with people that say I haven’t watched certain videos yet insist that they cut through A LIVE BABBYS FACE in one of them.

There’s also more that one RWNJ performing medal-winning mental gymnastics by equating a person willfully robbing people of their civil rights with large cities who won’t throw every free dollar at enforcing federal laws regarding immigration.

So, a day ending in “y.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:08:30am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:08:56am

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>
Slave owners were “Job Creators”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:09:41am

eejit

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:10:38am

re: #297 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>
Slave owners were “Job Creators”

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Those pyramids didn’t stack themselves.

Hmmm. Another Tetris application!!

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aagcobb  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:10:55am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

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eejit

Because getting married is exactly like being gassed or enslaved. Well, maybe for some people./

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:11:17am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kim Davis is an American hero. Standing on timeless truth against politically correct tyranny in the courthouse door against outside agitators…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:11:24am

And, of course, our GOP candidate for governor once again shows he has no clue as to how things work:

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WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:11:42am

re: #263 Tigger2

They want no jail time, they are a lot nicer then I would have been.

They know that would make her a martyr.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:11:45am

re: #301 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Her George Wallace moment…

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:12:24am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

I support Kim Davis like I would support a clerk who wouldn’t sign a form allowing a box car into Auschwitz, register a black citizen to vote, “law” or not.
— Bryan Fischer

These just write themselves

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:12:32am

Charles Gaba continues to eviscerate the GOP candidates “plans” to repeal Obamacare. And that’s to say that they don’t have a plan so much as a bunch of gibberish talking points that don’t do what they say they would do, target the wrong groups for subsidies, and don’t target costs. Instead, they’re focused on repeal and eliminate the very protections that most people actually want (expanded coverage to age 26 for dependents, eliminate lifetime caps, and eliminate preexisting condition limits).

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ChuckJager95  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:13:27am

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@libertybell1776 @realDonaldTrump @GOP @Reince Most Founding Fathers also had extensive political experience. https://t.co/lJTaFgpRum

— Charles Kent (@ChuckJager95) September 1, 2015

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:13:28am

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WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:13:44am

re: #268 lawhawk

I would have sought jail time as well. Fines could easily be paid off with a gofundme or other such effort - so that the monetary pain would be avoided. Jail is not so easily avoided.

Guess they were trying to be magnanimous. They know that they’re likely to succeed.

Still, because of how fundraising will likely result in Davis not paying anything out of pocket, jail would be the proper outcome here.

I didn’t think you could use GoFundMe if there was a legal issue surrounding the campaign.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:13:52am

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

And, of course, our GOP candidate for governor once again shows he has no clue as to how things work:

I’m once again urging Gov. Beshear and A.G. Conway to protect First Amendment rights:

Of course they should protect First A rights—that “No Establishment” shtick.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:17:04am

re: #294 makeitstop

You’d think that is the case, but we’ve seen fundraising efforts that attempt to circumvent that very idea before. Legal defense fund or some such nonsense.

GoFundMe prohibits “Campaigns in defense of formal charges or claims of heinous crimes, violent, hateful, sexual or discriminatory acts” but we’ve seen other similar services used in their stead.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:17:12am

here’s the motion that was filed today:

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:17:37am

re: #306 lawhawk

WALKER: Our system’s purely about freedom. It’s about giving people the freedom…We give patients as consumers the freedom to choose where they want to go or — frankly, part of our plan says if you want to pool together your resources as consumers, and pick your own plan, you can do that on your own

So all of us lizards could “pool together” our “resources” and pick our own plan. We aren’t related, don’t live in the same community, different ages, etc. Sounds like fun. And Freedom.

///

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Bird in the Paw  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:20:05am

Why Lewis is saving lives. Fewer marriages, fewer people falling off boats and drowning

Kentucky: Marriage vs. drowning off fishing boat
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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:20:32am

re: #313 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So all of us lizards could “pool together” our “resources” and pick our own plan. We aren’t related, don’t live in the same community, different ages, etc. Sounds like fun. And Freedom.

///

Pool together resources in a marketplace. Wait. That’s exactly what the ACA did - by creating a market that didn’t exist, relying on private/publicly owned insurers that offer their own products that comply with uniform national baseline rules.

Oh, he wants a return to the individual market, where rates were incredibly high and deterred people from seeking/obtaining insurance.

They also incentivize the wrong groups - by focusing on age, and not income level. By giving young no incentive to get insurance, your pool of insureds will skew to the old/infirm, and those more likely to use medical care. That would create the very death spiral that the right wing claimed would happen with the ACA - but hasn’t.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:22:31am

She should receive a huge fine. Not necessarily anything that ruins her, but something that stings.

She should fucking do her job and not waste anyone’s time and other resources.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:22:43am

re: #306 lawhawk

Walker Plan:

Sale of Health Insurance across State Lines: Allow individuals to shop in any state for insurance

Sound easy, simple.

Why not just set up a local network and…oh wait

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:24:11am

re: #317 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Walker Plan:

Sound easy, simple.

Why not just set up a local network and…oh wait

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Yeah, because a doctor’s office in Denver is just what people in Michigan need!

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:24:23am

re: #317 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The insurance across state lines sounds great, until you realize that it would be a race to the bottom. State with least amount of coverage protections would be idolized, while actual care and coverage would suffer - leaving people to carry ever greater health care costs.

It shifts the health care burden entirely on to the person.

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WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:25:04am

re: #313 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So all of us lizards could “pool together” our “resources” and pick our own plan. We aren’t related, don’t live in the same community, different ages, etc. Sounds like fun. And Freedom.

///

Let’s add into the mix those who are less skilled in reading medical legalese…just what is it they will be purchasing?

More Republican scamming. It’s disgusting how little they think of their fellow Americans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:25:05am

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:25:15am

One bark for yes, two barks for no, and three barks for Timmy fell down a well again.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:26:01am

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:27:39am

re: #313 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So all of us lizards could “pool together” our “resources” and pick our own plan. We aren’t related, don’t live in the same community, different ages, etc. Sounds like fun. And Freedom.

///

Lots of consumers are flummoxed annually by open enrollment. That seems an accurate predictor of how well the pooling of resources and picking your own plan parts would work out.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:29:58am

re: #306 lawhawk

And that LET INSURERS SELL INSURANCE ACROSS STATE LINES!!! freedom rhetoric?

It’s got problems.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:30:47am

What is even the point of being able to select an insurance carrier in another state, when all their participating physicians, hospitals and clinics are located in another state? That doesn’t even make any freaking sense.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:31:55am

re: #326 The Vicious Babushka

What is even the point of being able to select an insurance carrier in another state, when all their participating physicians, hospitals and clinics are located in another state? That doesn’t even make any freaking sense.

The free market will sort this out. Eventually. Maybe.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:32:09am

my favorite god on twitter:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:34:25am

BREAKING! Matt Bevin is still clueless:

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:35:58am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

$5,000 per day oughta do it.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:36:13am

re: #325 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And that LET INSURERS SELL INSURANCE ACROSS STATE LINES!!! freedom rhetoric?

It’s got problems.

WHY DOES THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HATE STATE’S RIGHTS???

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:37:28am

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

Adding insult to injury, Conway’s refusal to defend Kentucky’s same-sex marriage ban is costing Kentucky taxpayers $2.3 million. #kygov
— Matt Bevin

Not too bright, is this Matt Bevin?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:38:20am

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

Adding insult to injury, Conway’s refusal to defend Kentucky’s same-sex marriage ban is costing Kentucky taxpayers $2.3 million. #kygov
— Matt Bevin

SCOTUS should step in and rule on these state bans. Oh wait….
/

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:39:13am

re: #326 The Vicious Babushka

What is even the point of being able to select an insurance carrier in another state, when all their participating physicians, hospitals and clinics are located in another state? That doesn’t even make any freaking sense.

That point makes it clear that Walker knows exactly zed point fuck about health insurance. The insurers establish provider networks, that’s part of what you’re paying for. The size and geographical extent of those networks is governed by the size of the insurer. Selling health insurance to consumers in areas where the insurer has no network would necessitate the insurer developing a new reimbursement model. Billing and reimbursement is already a nightmare, few reputable companies will go for out-of-area sales.

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ChuckJager95  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:39:38am

re: #323 Dave In Austin

Twitter’s acting up for me or I would link the conversation I had with this person (I’m assuming) so you can see what you’re up against, but it went something like this:

“Trump is a businessman, like a lot of our Founding Fathers.”

“Most Founding Fathers also had extensive political experience.”

“I would stack Trump’s experience in business negotiations up against them anytime.”

“Against Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, et al?”

“Yep.”

*checks profile* “So you’re a ‘Constitutional originalist’, but the originators of the Constitution are less worthy than Trump?”

“Hey I get it, you don’t like Trump, that’s fine. Maybe you like Cruz, I’m OK with that.”

That last line almost has me convinced that it’s a parody account. Almost.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:40:13am

Kim Davis and her defenders say “just go to another county to get married”.

Except for this little detail:

KRS § 402.080 provides:
No marriage shall be solemnized without a license therefor. The license shall be issued by the clerk of the county in which the female resides at the time, unless the female is eighteen (18) years of age or over or a widow, and the license is issued on her application in person or by writing signed by her, in which case it may be issued by any county clerk.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:40:35am

re: #332 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Not too bright, is this Matt Bevin?

He’s the best the Kentucky GOP has to offer….

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:41:38am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kim Davis and her defenders say “just go to another county to get married”.

Except for this little detail:

SHES NOT FORCING THEM TO GET MARRIED AGAINST GODS LAW!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:41:40am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kim Davis and her defenders say “just go to another county to get married”.

Except for this little detail:

What if there is no female?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:42:58am

re: #339 The Vicious Babushka

What if there is no female?

There is that.
But Kim Davis is not issuing ANY marriage licenses and is telling anyone in Rowan County who wants to get married to go somewhere else.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:46:23am

So where are all the brave clerks denying marriage licenses to divorcees?

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Archangelus  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:47:05am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

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eejit

Putting it mildly IMHO…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:47:13am
MOREHEAD — A federal judge has ordered Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis to appear in his courtroom Thursday and explain why she should not be held in contempt of court, according to Rowan County Attorney Cecil Watkins. All of Davis’ deputy clerks are to join her, Watkins said.

kentucky.com

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:49:30am

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why?

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calochortus  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:49:30am

re: #306 lawhawk

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Charles Gaba continues to eviscerate the GOP candidates “plans” to repeal Obamacare. And that’s to say that they don’t have a plan so much as a bunch of gibberish talking points that don’t do what they say they would do, target the wrong groups for subsidies, and don’t target costs. Instead, they’re focused on repeal and eliminate the very protections that most people actually want (expanded coverage to age 26 for dependents, eliminate lifetime caps, and eliminate preexisting condition limits).

a.) If you love the credit card industry operating under South Dakota’s rather lax laws, you’ll love having all your health insurance choices operating under the laws of some state that lowers the bar to attract the insurers to their state.

b.) Even if all these companies are competing in that national market, why would any one of them suddenly want to offer insurance to someone with a personal or even family history of cancer? The laws of economics for the companies won’t magically change just because they can sell their product in another state.

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FormerDirtDart  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:50:57am

It’s high time for every marriage equality supporter in Kentucky to descend on Morehead KY brandishing assault rifles and banners, lots of guns & banners, asserting the need to pursue 2nd Amendment remedies.

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:53:21am

re: #344 Nyet

Why?

No idea except, perhaps, that deputy county clerks are also violating the oath of office they took when they were hired.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:54:26am

re: #345 calochortus

It’ll be a race for catastrophic care coverage only - and even then, if some SD insurer isn’t covering hospitals in your state, you’ll be out of luck.

Heck, even now with doctors and hospitals in network, you can find that you’re getting billed for out of network services that you had no choice over. For instance, you’re going to the ER for an injury and need surgery. You chose the hospital b/c it is in network, and your personal surgeon at the hospital is also in-network.

However, the ER dept is out of network b/c they’ve outsourced that work, and the anesthesiologist is also out of network. They hit you for higher costs as a result - even though you tried to do everything in-network.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:54:28am

re: #346 FormerDirtDart

It’s high time for every marriage equality supporter in Kentucky to descend on Morehead KY brandishing assault rifles and banners, lots of guns & banners, asserting the need to pursue 2nd Amendment remedies.

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander

nope, I wouldn’t even consider doing anything like that.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:55:53am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

No idea except, perhaps, that deputy county clerks are also violating the oath of office they took when they were hired.

Yep. If they are going along with her unlawful order to defy the law, they are complicit.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 8:58:36am

re: #350 Eventual Carrion

The fines should apply to them as well in their individual capacities.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:00:11am

re: #350 Eventual Carrion

Yep. If they are going along with her unlawful order to defy the law, they are complicit.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:01:59am

Meanwhile Russia has blocked archive.org

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:03:37am

Developing:

Massive manhunt underway. Reports also indicate the officer was killed.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:04:22am

re: #342 Archangelus

Putting it mildly IMHO…

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An instant classic

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:05:38am

re: #315 lawhawk

Pool together resources in a marketplace. Wait. That’s exactly what the ACA did - by creating a market that didn’t exist, relying on private/publicly owned insurers that offer their own products that comply with uniform national baseline rules.

Oh, he wants a return to the individual market, where rates were incredibly high and deterred people from seeking/obtaining insurance.

They also incentivize the wrong groups - by focusing on age, and not income level. By giving young no incentive to get insurance, your pool of insureds will skew to the old/infirm, and those more likely to use medical care. That would create the very death spiral that the right wing claimed would happen with the ACA - but hasn’t.

That’s some nice earth logic.

Which means it will be roundly ignored.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:06:55am

re: #353 Nyet

“Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past.”

Of all of the novels that could have been prophetic, did it have to be 1984?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:08:56am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:10:40am

keeping it classy and oh so presidential:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:11:46am

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:12:48am

The amusing aspect of Kim Davis’ disregard of the law is that RWNJs are now siding with government workers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:13:36am

re: #361 Dr. Matt

The amusing aspect of Kim Davis’ disregard of the law is that RWNJs are now siding with government workers.

even worse, government workers paid with taxpayer money and not doing their jobs!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:13:37am

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

keeping it classy and oh so presidential:

Shouldn’t the Donald start worrying about Real Dr. Ben Carson?

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:14:46am

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:16:48am

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

Will Kim Davis subpoena God to appear with her in Federal Court on Thursday? Cuz I think He’s busy dealing with football matches.

That’d be really inconvenient, because I was supposed to meet up with God, Lord Krishna, Zoroaster and the Buddha for pizza and bowling on Thursday.

*smh* - this woman’s a loon.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:17:18am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

The joke would be on them: there are three bassoon players in my family.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:20:32am

re: #365 Dr Lizardo

That’d be really inconvenient, because I was supposed to meet up with God, Lord Krishna, Zoroaster and the Buddha for pizza and bowling on Thursday.

*smh* - this woman’s a loon.

Crom is pissed to have been left off. And Cthulhu is not to be trifled with. Oh, and Zod expects much kneeling.

Durga, however, has a free hand to juggle Kim’s prayers.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:22:28am

Crom, Cthulhu and General Zod are with me on Saturdays for mountain biking. Cthulhu had a hell of time finding a bike big enough for him, though.

Then on Sundays, it’s a quiet day - chilling with Nyarlathotep.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:23:54am

re: #368 Dr Lizardo

Friday night - disco at Azathoth’s?

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Teukka  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:23:58am

re: #368 Dr Lizardo

Crom, Cthulhu and General Zod are with me on Saturdays for mountain biking. Cthulhu had a hell of time finding a bike big enough for him, though.

Then on Sundays, it’s a quiet day - chilling with Nyarlathotep.

BTW, what’s the word on the presidential run? Will it be AncientPAC and Cthulhu-Nyarlathotep ‘16?

*ducks*

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:23:58am

Of course they are. The CMP agitprop aren’t getting the job done, so they’re resorting to familiar tactics.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:26:52am

Whoa. Kim Davis makes nearly $80K per year….for not doing her job.

*I fixed the url*

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:29:10am

re: #372 Dr. Matt

Whoa. Kim Davis makes nearly $80K per year….for not doing her job.

80K per year in Kentucky is comparable to 120K in San Diego, 200K in NYC, and 100K in Chicago.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:29:34am

re: #372 Dr. Matt

Whoa. Kim Davis makes nearly $80K per year….for not doing her job.

And, inheriting her job.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:32:54am

heh

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:34:27am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

Republican Walker, in office since age 25, denies he’s a career politician. t.co
— AP Politics

Entrepreneur, job creator.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:35:38am

oh good fucking grief

loads of codswallop at the link.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:37:10am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

Then let Jesus pay her.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:37:29am

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

BREAKING: Contempt of court hearing for Kim Davis scheduled for Ashland on Thursday at 11, according to Rowan Co attorney. ^JC
— Bluegrass Politics

And all around the country, conservative Christian churches will be all abuzz about that faithful Christian being persecuted and threated with jail in Kentucky just for standing up for her beliefs and “Jesus”.

Glad I got out of that scene.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:37:52am

That Constitution thing, how the fuck does it work==>

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:38:55am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

Upding for codswallop.

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Lidane  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:39:16am

re: #380 The Vicious Babushka

Bryan Fischer blocked me on Twitter ages ago. I wear it like a badge of honor.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:39:24am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good fucking grief

loads of codswallop at the link.

To issue a marriage license which conflicts with God’s definition of marriage, with my name affixed to the certificate, would violate my conscience. It is not a light issue for me. It is a Heaven or Hell decision. For me it is a decision of obedience.

I think she’s suffering from one or more mental illnesses.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:40:05am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

Also:

I never imagined a day like this would come, where I would be asked to violate a central teaching of Scripture and of Jesus Himself regarding marriage.

I don’t think Jesus ever mentioned homosexuality. Sexual immorality yes, but there’s an ongoing theological debate as to what exactly He meant by that.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:40:14am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

I never sought to be in this position, and I would much rather not have been placed in this position.

And yet there she is, dually elected to that position and having taken an oath to fulfill the office’s obligations.

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coin operated  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:40:31am

re: #380 The Vicious Babushka

I thought I’d seen weapons-grade stupid before, but it appears that the RWNJ have a special centrifuge in operation.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:41:19am

HEAR IS MOAR STUPIDS==>

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:42:08am

re: #387 The Vicious Babushka

I wonder if he’d be singing the same tune if SCOTUS was located in Alabama and stacked with wingnuts?

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:42:17am

How can she not believe this won’t end well for her? She’s opposing the SCOTUS.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:42:28am

re: #380 The Vicious Babushka

75% of Kentucky VOTED to make marriage one-man, one-woman. That’s how the LAW is made. SCOTUS has NO authority to make LAW.
— Bryan Fischer

I guess today was not the day Bryan would care about the rights of numerical minorities.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:43:25am

re: #389 Dr. Matt

How can she not believe this won’t end well for her? She’s opposing the SCOTUS.

I suspect she’ll carry on the martyrdom/persecution thing for awhile, finally cave and resign. Then start doing the RW talk circuit and eventually land a book deal.

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Bird in the Paw  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:44:01am

Does he really not understand the role of SCOTUS to determine the constitutionality of law under, you know, the constitution? Which defines the framework of the legal system. Or is he a pandering fool. Am I asking questions that are terminally obvious?

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Mattand  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:44:01am

re: #380 The Vicious Babushka

That Constitution thing, how the fuck does it work==>

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God, that amount of conservatives who honestly believe the courts in this country aren’t allowed to interpret law is just fucking staggering. And depressing.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:44:30am

re: #387 The Vicious Babushka

DOMA is an actual LAW: passed by Congress, signed by the president.

Like Obamacare?

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:44:46am

re: #391 Eclectic Cyborg

I suspect she’ll carry on the martyrdom/persecution thing for awhile, finally cave and resign. Then start doing the RW talk circuit and eventually land a book deal.

Don’t forget the GoFundMe page(s) that will be set up for her.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:45:27am

re: #393 Mattand

God, that amount of conservatives who honestly believe the courts in this country aren’t allowed to interpret law is just fucking staggering. And depressing.

They seemed to believe courts had lots of allowance to interpret the ACA just early this Summer.

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blueraven  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:46:24am

CNN press conference of Chicago area police officer: 3 male suspects on the loose; 2 white, one black.

Reports officer was injured…not dead (at least as reported)

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Mattand  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:47:04am

re: #366 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The joke would be on them: there are three bassoon players in my family.

Your relatives should attend that concert and change their cell phone alerts to either the hamster dance or Never Gonna Give You Up, and then just text the shit out of each other the whole show.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:48:07am

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:48:12am

re: #396 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

They seemed to believe courts had lots of allowance to interpret the ACA just early this Summer.

Wingnut arguments never fail to make my head spin.

Have they developed amnesia over their five year effort to have SCOTUS kill Obamacare?

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plansbandc  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:48:22am

Sports talk radio station here has been running a ton of anti SSM commercials lately. I think they are from the Liberty Counsel. (don’t want to pay close enough attention to find out)

Theme is five lawyers (The Supremes who voted yes) don’t have the constitutional authority to change the institution of marriage.

It’s RWNJ “Christianity” at its finest. I’m sick of hearing them.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:48:38am

re: #387 The Vicious Babushka

Who can forget Fischer’s furious reaction when Citizens United was handed down?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:48:49am

re: #380 The Vicious Babushka

That Constitution thing, how the fuck does it work==>

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There are more than 3 million registered voters in Kentucky.
On that particular ballot election in 2004, voter turnout was very low. The vote total in favor of the amendment was 1,222,125, which was 74.6% of the vote, NOT of all Kentuckians. (“no” votes were 417,097, one of those were mine.)
That Kentucky Constitution amendment was overturned in US District Court, decision upheld by the 6th District Court, and the amendment is no longer valid since the SCOTUS decision in June.

ballotpedia.org

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:49:28am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

So she is shitting on the 1st amdt while saying it shields her.

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Teukka  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:50:50am

re: #404 Nyet

So she is shitting on the 1st amdt while saying it shields her.

So what you’re saying is that she’s basically smearing herself with excrement?
*ducks*

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:52:16am

re: #405 Teukka

So what you’re saying is that she’s basically smearing herself with excrement?
*ducks*

Well, in fairness, that’s the RW’ers have become. Small, petulant children playing with their own feces.

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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:52:46am

re: #384 Eclectic Cyborg

Also:

I don’t think Jesus ever mentioned homosexuality. Sexual immorality yes, but there’s an ongoing theological debate as to what exactly He meant by that.

What would Jesus do?

Flip some tables and throw some people out of the office.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:53:28am

re: #380 The Vicious Babushka

That Constitution thing, how the fuck does it work==>

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I thought the Supreme Court’s whole job was to make (common) law.

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Shiplord Kirel  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:54:55am

re: #387 The Vicious Babushka

HEAR IS MOAR STUPIDS==>

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Bryan would change his tune if Congress were to pass the “Emergency FEMA Camp Confinement for Fundamentalist Grifters Act,” which would be struck down for about the same reasons as DOMA and similar unconstitutional grandstanding.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:55:11am

re: #407 wrenchwench

What would Jesus do?

Flip some tables and throw some people out of the office.

Wouldn’t bake them a cake. Might give them a fish.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:55:23am

re: #384 Eclectic Cyborg

Also:

I don’t think Jesus ever mentioned homosexuality. Sexual immorality yes, but there’s an ongoing theological debate as to what exactly He meant by that.

Arguably, OT and Paul’s letters are also Jesus’ word [too] since Jesus is, after all, God.

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Teukka  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:55:33am

re: #406 Dr Lizardo

Well, in fairness, that’s the RW’ers have become. Small, petulant children playing with their own feces.

Indeed they have…
*smh*

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:56:03am

re: #407 wrenchwench

What would Jesus do?

Flip some tables and throw some people out of the office.

And prohibit divorce.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:56:12am

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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:57:16am

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Lidane  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:57:22am

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

kentucky.com

Sounds like the federal judge wants everyone in that office to explain to him why they’re actively refusing to follow his order, even after SCOTUS has told them they’re not going to intervene.

Federal judges tend to get testy if they don’t have their orders followed. Should be fun.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 9:58:39am

re: #406 Dr Lizardo

Well, in fairness, that’s the RW’ers have become. Small, petulant children playing with their own feces.

And all it’s earned them is a Congressional majority. That speaks worlds about the DNC, doesn’t it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:01:02am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good fucking grief

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loads of codswallop at the link.

In addition to my desire to serve the people of Rowan County, I owe my life to Jesus Christ who loves me and gave His life for me. Following the death of my godly mother-in-law over four years ago, I went to church to fulfill her dying wish.

There I heard a message of grace and forgiveness and surrendered my life to Jesus Christ. I am not perfect. No one is. But I am forgiven and I love my Lord and must be obedient to Him and to the Word of God.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:03:04am

re: #416 Lidane

Sounds like the federal judge wants everyone in that office to explain to him why they’re actively refusing to follow his order, even after SCOTUS has told them they’re not going to intervene.

Federal judges tend to get testy if they don’t have their orders followed. Should be fun.

The federal courthouse in Ashland is less than an hour’s drive away from me.
I’d go to watch it if it wasn’t going to be such a media circus.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:03:05am

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Belafon  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:05:13am

#417 Higgs Boson’s Mate:

That they need to encourage Democrats to play with their own feces?

I remember when Pelosi was sending out DOOM emails in 2014. They were generally viewed by most people as backfiring. Democrats have to be given “what’s in it for me” reasons to go to the polls. Trying to tell them that “the world is going to end if you don’t” doesn’t really seem to resonate.

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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:05:57am

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kim Davis is dishing out God’swallop.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:06:13am

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:06:45am

Another day in gun-obsessed America. The his time a cop was killed and 3 suspects are on the run with his gun and mace. Good luck finding them. The area is swampy/wooded/industrialized. Everything is on lockdown and the Metra to Milwaukee has been shut down. Law enforcement is going door to door checking on every residential house in the area. Schools locked down too.

wgntv.com

Going to be a long day here.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:08:37am

Not this shit…..

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:08:43am

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Some people say I should resign, but no I’ve done a real good job even though I’m not doing my job and I would like to keep earning money and I’ve never done anything else.”

/

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:09:07am

re: #424 GlutenFreeJesus

Another day in gun-obsessed America. The his time a cop was killed and 3 suspects are on the run with his gun and mace. Good luck finding them. The area is swampy/wooded/industrialized. Everything is on lockdown and the Metra to Milwaukee has been shut down.

wgntv.com

Going to be a long day here.

Another day, more senseless killing. Damn.

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Kragar  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:09:10am

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Her version of Jesus” doesn’t sign her fucking paychecks.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:09:14am

re: #423 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s the funniest thing I’ve seen all day

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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:09:39am

deleted

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Kragar  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:10:21am

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BlueGrl21  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:10:46am

I am Episcopalian, but most of my friends growing up were Catholic. My aunt was a nun. I attended Catholic churches every Sunday and took Communion anyway, because protest. I was never struck by lightning.

I’m Irish, which should explain the entire paragraph above.

My best friend went to Notre Dame Paris on a trip and felt in such a place, confession was in order. She walked over to the booth and began to speak to the priest.

“Forgive me Father, for I have sinned. I am living with a man and we are not married.”

The priest responded, “Do you plan to marry him?”

Startled, she responded, “Well, I’m not sure, I mean we’ve talked about it, but you know, it’s just not something I want to do right now. I have doubts. He can be a real asshole.”

“You must consider this. As for the living together, it’s alright.”

She told me she walked out of the booth and just laughed.

She broke up with him a couple of months later and always tells people it was a French priest that caused the breakup.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:11:39am

re: #423 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #429 Dave In Austin

See, if I were Presidentin’, I’d have gone up to Alaska, had a presser with a nice view of Denali in the background, then said, “I hereby proclaim this mountain’s name to be ‘Denali’” then given the old black power salute and said, “Alhamdulillah” and watched wingnut heads explode from sea to shining sea.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:12:50am

re: #423 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s stupid. It means “Kill the white people”, everyone knows that. The Inuit people had a way with words.

//

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blueraven  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:14:05am

So, in other news, Google has changed their logo.

google.com

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:14:23am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

In addition to my desire to serve the people of Rowan County, I owe my life to Jesus Christ who loves me and gave His life for me. Following the death of my godly mother-in-law over four years ago, I went to church to fulfill her dying wish.

There I heard a message of grace and forgiveness and surrendered my life to Jesus Christ. I am not perfect. No one is. But I am forgiven and I love my Lord and must be obedient to Him and to the Word of God.
the preacher tell me gays were going to hell and birth control is abortion and Obama is Kenyan…

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Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:14:28am

re: #433 Dr Lizardo

See, if I were Presidentin’, I’d have gone up to Alaska, had a presser with a nice view of Denali in the background, then said, “I hereby proclaim this mountain’s name to be ‘Denali’” then given the old black power salute and said, “Alhamdulillah” and watched wingnut heads explode from sea to shining sea.

If there is to be a renaming ceremony it is only fitting that the Prez invite the governor and former governors.

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allegro  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:14:53am

I’ve been wondering about the other clerks in Kimmy’s office. Are they entirely complicit in refusing marriage licenses or are they being threatened with their jobs if they refuse to comply with her claimed conscience? If they did their jobs anyway in compliance with the law could she fire them? If she fired them for actually doing their jobs according to the law, could they refuse to leave?

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:15:18am

re: #435 blueraven

What’s the diff?/

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:15:32am

re: #437 Decatur Deb

If there is to be a renaming ceremony it is only fitting that the Prez invite the governor and former governors.

LOLOL Governor Half-Term Palin would probably have a stroke.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:15:48am

re: #435 blueraven

So, in other news, Google has changed their logo.

google.com

I’m sure this is Obama’s fault.

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Lidane  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:16:14am

re: #431 Kragar

The best part? The federal judge who’s hauling them all in is a Bush appointee:

en.wikipedia.org

And that judge’s father was the other Republican US Senator from Kentucky before Rand Paul took his place:

en.wikipedia.org

Should be fun.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:18:33am

re: #437 Decatur Deb

If there is to be a renaming ceremony it is only fitting that the Prez invite the governor and former governors half-governors.

fixed

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Kragar  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:18:38am

LOL

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:20:16am

re: #444 Kragar

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LOL

In her case wouldn’t that be “polyandry” hair? LOL

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:22:05am

re: #421 Belafon

#417 Higgs Boson’s Mate:

That they need to encourage Democrats to play with their own feces?

I remember when Pelosi was sending out DOOM emails in 2014. They were generally viewed by most people as backfiring. Democrats have to be given “what’s in it for me” reasons to go to the polls. Trying to tell them that “the world is going to end if you don’t” doesn’t really seem to resonate.

Just saying that the DNC seems unable to deal with the strategies of the GOP, even when those strategies take years to put in place. Anyone who wasn’t aware of the outcome from letting the GOP dominate so many state legislatures wasn’t paying attention. That would include the DNC.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:23:22am

re: #443 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

No quitters allowed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:23:55am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:24:15am

re: #438 allegro

I’ve been wondering about the other clerks in Kimmy’s office. Are they entirely complicit in refusing marriage licenses or are they being threatened with their jobs if they refuse to comply with her claimed conscience? If they did their jobs anyway in compliance with the law could she fire them? If she fired them for actually doing their jobs according to the law, could they refuse to leave?

At least one of the deputy clerks is her son.
All of the clerks are probably terrified of her.

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:24:52am

re: #448 The Vicious Babushka

Thomas J: Never Made A Cake In His Life

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:27:06am

temper tantrum! TEMPER TANTRUM!!!

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:27:21am

re: #448 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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A cynic would conclude that the wingers’ only path to feeling significant is by maintaining that they’re important enough to be threatened with death by conspiracies that only they are aware of.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:27:27am

re: #448 The Vicious Babushka

REMEMBER THIS: Only 1.6% of Americans Identify as Homosexual t.co #college #women #news #UniteBlue pic.twitter.com
— Thomas J

Oh is this the day that the rights of numerical minorities don’t count?

/

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:28:05am

re: #451 Backwoods_Sleuth

temper tantrum! TEMPER TANTRUM!!!

But Davis “harbors no ill will of anyone”.

/

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:29:43am

ATTN SCOTT WALKER, this photo is not a “selfie”==>

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EmmaAnne  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:30:06am

re: #417 Higgs Boson’s Mate

And all it’s earned them is a Congressional majority. That speaks worlds about the DNC, doesn’t it.

Not a huge fan of the DNC, but I think we have met the enemy, and it is us. No organization is going to get out the vote. We all have to.

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BlueGrl21  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:30:36am

re: #436 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

From Ms. Kim: “In addition to my desire to serve the people of Rowan County, I owe my life to Jesus Christ who loves me and gave His life for me.”

From the Jesus Dude: “Therefore render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

This one is pretty clear. The Man was saying that if you really care more about the Heavenly Kingdom then why would you not follow the secular law? Who cares? Government, laws, and faith are separate things, different spheres. Quit worrying about stupid shit.

I’m paraphrasing, but you get the idea.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:31:25am

re: #448 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

Citing data that are 2+ years old on this particular topic is obtuse. As gender and sexual identity data are now being collected more often in state and national databases and registries, better estimates of the LGBTQ community will be known.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:32:29am

re: #449 Backwoods_Sleuth

At least one of the deputy clerks is her son.
All of the clerks are probably terrified of her.

I wonder if they have independent authority from her? Is her signature required on all licenses, documents, etc?

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:32:30am

re: #457 BlueGrl21

“Jesus told me to keep being a jerk until I’m removed from my job, so I have no choice.”

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Kragar  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:32:57am

re: #455 The Vicious Babushka

“Yeah, looks like you’ve got some dry rot in the ceiling beams there. Its gonna need to all come out.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:33:14am

re: #458 Dr. Matt

Citing data that are 2+ years old on this particular topic is obtuse. As gender and sexual identity data are now being collected more often in state and national databases and registries, better estimates of the LGBTQ community will be known.

The idea that they are being executed for not baking a cake is just silly.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:33:44am

re: #457 BlueGrl21

From Ms. Kim: “In addition to my desire to serve the people of Rowan County, I owe my life to Jesus Christ who loves me and gave His life for me.”

From the Jesus Dude: “Therefore render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

This one is pretty clear. The Man was saying that if you really care more about the Heavenly Kingdom then why would you not follow the secular law? Who cares? Government, laws, and faith are separate things, different spheres. Quit worry about stupid shit.

I’m paraphrasing, but you get the idea.

But mah church sez my religious liberties are the most important thing!

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Jenner7  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:34:04am

RIP for this officer and my thoughts are with his family. I hope they find these suspects quickly.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:35:01am

re: #458 Dr. Matt

Citing data that are 2+ years old on this particular topic is obtuse. As gender and sexual identity data are now being collected more often in state and national databases and registries, better estimates of the LGBTQ community will be known.

Wow I guess the SCOTUS didn’t about this two year old data, we’ll get this over to them right away.

//

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:36:45am

re: #351 lawhawk

Cleaning house, as it were. Also, a warning to Casey Davis and others.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:38:12am

re: #458 Dr. Matt

Citing data that are 2+ years old on this particular topic is obtuse. As gender and sexual identity data are now being collected more often in state and national databases and registries, better estimates of the LGBTQ community will be known.

It’s also completely irrelevant, how many interracial marriages/couples were there compared to noninterracial when Loving v. Virginia was decided?

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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:38:17am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:39:11am

re: #459 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I wonder if they have independent authority from her? Is her signature required on all licenses, documents, etc?

It’s her signature that is required.

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BlueGrl21  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:39:39am

re: #463 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

But mah church sez my religious liberties are the most important thing!

As I have told many, many of my Christian Conservative friends, Jesus never said, “Go forth and be an asshole in my name.”

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Jenner7  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:40:04am

The couple that filed against Davis are being entirely too nice. I heard they want fines, not jail time for Davis.

I’d say throw her disgusting ass in jail.

Also, waiting for the indictment against Hillary for illegally selling Canadian a t-shirt.

//

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:42:03am

Ok, so let’s say the court decides to fine her daily. Does there come a point at which the amount of unpaid fines would require she be arrested for failing to comply as ordered or could she just let the fines rack up indefinitely while still refusing?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:42:25am

re: #471 Jenner7

The couple that filed against Davis are being entirely too nice. I heard they want fines, not jail time for Davis.

I’d say throw her disgusting ass in jail.

Also, waiting for the indictment against Hillary for illegally selling Canadian a t-shirt.

//

Yes but BREAKING!! BOMBSHELL!!!! HRC violates LAW!!!!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:43:19am

re: #471 Jenner7

The couple that filed against Davis are being entirely too nice. I heard they want fines, not jail time for Davis.

I’d say throw her disgusting ass in jail.

Also, waiting for the indictment against Hillary for illegally selling Canadian a t-shirt.

//

Hillary campaign financed by illegal alien foreigners!!!!

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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:45:06am

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WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:46:13am

re: #455 The Vicious Babushka

ATTN SCOTT WALKER, this photo is not a “selfie”==>

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It’s an Ussie.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:49:33am

Dafuq is this==>

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:52:15am

Well, don’t count on her getting impeached, given KY’s legislature. Looks like all that’s available is fines and the pokey. And you can bet that there’s going to be some ceiling as to how high the fines and how long they can keep this Lord-loving-lyingass-loon locked up.

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:53:25am

So it looks like Kentucky’s favorite clerk is keeping all the marriage licenses for herself…to protect the sanctity of her fourth marriage.

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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:53:46am

re: #477 The Vicious Babushka

Dafuq is this==>

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The antidote:

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:54:45am

re: #440 Dr Lizardo

LOLOL Governor Half-Term Palin would probably have a stroke.

Or only stay for half the ceremony.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:55:25am

re: #478 Eric The Fruit Bat

Well, don’t count on her getting impeached, given KY’s legislature. Looks like all that’s available is fines and the pokey. And you can bet that there’s going to be some ceiling as to how high the fines and how long they can keep this Lord-loving-lyingass-loon locked up.

Really should be a means for the State’s AG to step in, have someone from their office insert themselves in the office and perform the function Davis doesn’t want to do.

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Lidane  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:55:40am

re: #471 Jenner7

The couple that filed against Davis are being entirely too nice. I heard they want fines, not jail time for Davis.

I’d say throw her disgusting ass in jail.

Makes sense, though.

Putting her in jail makes her the fake martyr that the RWNJs want. Fining her every day that she refuses to follow the law will either bankrupt her quickly or force the RWNJs to dig deep and keep paying her to not do her job.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:55:52am

re: #481 Eventual Carrion

Or only stay for half the ceremony.

Internet. Won.

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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:56:30am

re: #477 The Vicious Babushka

You might enjoy the Rejected Princesses website. Started with cartoons of women who would not have made the Disney cut, and has expanded a lot.

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darthstar  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:56:34am

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Mike Lamb  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:56:44am

re: #448 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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It’s only 1.6% of the population, so fuck’em, amirite?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:57:20am

re: #480 wrenchwench

The antidote:

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I did not know there was a “Mrs. Universe” pageant. Is the only difference that contestants are allowed to be married? Seems kinda lame, just combine them into a “Ms. Universe” pageant.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:57:22am

Anyone else on mobile safari having issues with this thread loading/crashing constantly? Sigh.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:58:11am

re: #487 Mike Lamb

It’s only 1.6% of the population, so fuck’em, amirite?

Just think what they could accomplish if they were III% of the population!

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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2015 • 10:58:59am

Trace O’Connell acquitted of disorderly conduct in racially-charged case

Trace O’Connell, the Philip man accused of spilling beer on Native American children at a local hockey game in January, has been acquitted of the disorderly conduct charge against him.

The verdict, issued in the racially charged trial, was filed Tuesday morning by Magistrate Judge Eric Strawn.

In July, Strawn estimated it would take three to four weeks to make his decision, as he wanted to “leave no stone unturned.”

O’Connell, 41, was charged with violating Rapid City’s municipal disorderly conduct ordinance. The incident occurred Jan. 24 during a Rapid City Rush hockey game in the ice arena at the Rushmore Plaza Civic Center. During the January game, O’Connell, who is white, was among about 20 people in an arena suite. Seated directly below the suite was a group of about 50 students and seven adult chaperons from American Horse School, which is in Allen on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation.

The criminal complaint against O’Connell alleged that he “caused beer to be spilled upon another person or persons, and uttered racially charged and confrontational words within the hearing of minor(s) and adult(s).”

[…]

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Mike Lamb  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:00:51am

re: #490 The Vicious Babushka

Just think what they could accomplish if they were III% of the population!

It only takes 1.5% of the population to make things fabulous!

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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:00:53am

re: #488 The Vicious Babushka

I did not know there was a “Mrs. Universe” pageant. Is the only difference that contestants are allowed to be married? Seems kinda lame, just combine them into a “Ms. Universe” pageant.

I think it should be limited to ‘Ms.Galactic.’ Who knows what beauties are in the other galaxies?

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Iwouldprefernotto  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:02:07am

re: #493 wrenchwench

I think it should be limited to ‘Ms.Galactic.’ Who knows what beauties are in the other galaxies?

Yes, but do you want to go where no man has gone before?

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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:03:11am

re: #494 Iwouldprefernotto

Yes, but do you want to go where no man has gone before?

If I am accompanied by Patrick Stewart, I’ll go anywhere.

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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:07:08am

I’m ready for my closeup.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:07:34am

re: #456 EmmaAnne

Not a huge fan of the DNC, but I think we have met the enemy, and it is us. No organization is going to get out the vote. We all have to.

Beyond doubt. OTOH, I’ve volunteered for the Dems since the days when envelope stuffing was a big part of the campaign scutwork. All of volunteers in the world can only do so much without some intelligent direction to co-ordinate their efforts.

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Kragar  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:07:45am

re: #494 Iwouldprefernotto

Yes, but do you want to go where no man has gone before?

Someone beat you to it.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:09:00am

re: #471 Jenner7

I agree. Time and time again it shows that playing nice doesn’t work with these wing nuts. Jail her for contempt, she’s already a watermark anyways. then liberals can grab the language and go on the offensive (ha ha). Let this be their Waterloo.

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blueraven  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:10:16am

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:11:52am

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>
Spoilered to prevent you from throwing up in your mouth.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:12:25am

re: #493 wrenchwench

I think it should be limited to ‘Ms.Galactic.’ Who knows what beauties are in the other galaxies?

What about those beauties who reproduce by parthenogenesis? Are they to be lopped from the contest like so many excess limbs on the Procrustean Bed of gendercentricity? Well, are they?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:13:03am

Poor Andrew Messenger has no clue.

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Jenner7  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:13:09am

re: #500 blueraven

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:13:12am

re: #501 The Vicious Babushka

The boy has only one area of expertise.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:13:27am

re: #501 The Vicious Babushka

Um….

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Teukka  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:13:40am

re: #501 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>
Spoilered to prevent you from throwing up in your mouth.

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It really is a race to the bottom of the Mariana trench, isn’t it?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:13:57am

re: #501 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>
Spoilered to prevent you from throwing up in your mouth.

*Spoiler*

Gosh that’s the funniest, wittiest, truest thing I’ve ever heard.

/

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:14:21am

re: #502 Higgs Boson’s Mate

What about those beauties who reproduce by parthenogenesis? Are they to be lopped from the contest like so many excess limbs on the Procrustean Bed of gendercentricity? Well, are they?

Are trans contestants allowed to enter the “Miss” or “Mrs” pageants? Is there a “Miss/Mrs. Trans America” pageant?

Pageants are silly and should have been discontinued in the 1970’s.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:14:59am

re: #504 Jenner7

SCOOP by @pkcapitol: Chris Coons backs Iran deal, putting Obama on brink of a major diplomatic victory t.co
— Ed O’Keefe

Dems in disarray

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:16:06am

re: #504 Jenner7

Democratic Senators backing a Democratic president on a major treaty, is that inspiring or what? Odds are that at least one of them will pretend that he never heard of Obama or the treaty the next time he runs for re-election.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:16:22am

re: #507 Teukka

It really is a race to the bottom of the Mariana trench, isn’t it?

Think SeaQuest DSV and all the unknown life that might exist. For example, we’ve found a species that has been trained to perfection using Pavlov’s dogs technique, are dumber than dirt, and somehow don’t kill themselves by running into walls.

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Kragar  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:16:25am

re: #503 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:17:31am
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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:17:36am

re: #502 Higgs Boson’s Mate

What about those beauties who reproduce by parthenogenesis? Are they to be lopped from the contest like so many excess limbs on the Procrustean Bed of gendercentricity? Well, are they?

A lot of lizards reproduce parthenogenetically. New Mexico’s state reptile, for one.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:17:54am

re: #501 The Vicious Babushka

But did he tweet it LOUDER?

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Kragar  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:18:29am

re: #501 The Vicious Babushka

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:19:24am

re: #517 Kragar

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LOL

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:20:08am

re: #517 Kragar

Maybe if you didn’t keep it in a jar on your desk… t.co
— Kragar

Damn

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:20:52am

If penis stays white longer than four hours, see a doctor.

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Kragar  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:21:25am

re: #518 The Vicious Babushka

LOL

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:21:46am

re: #515 wrenchwench

A lot of lizards reproduce parthenogenetically. New Mexico’s state reptile, for one.

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There are days when I do believe that parthenogenesis should have been nature’s ultimate goal for Homo sapiens.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:22:35am

re: #517 Kragar

I suspect Steven’s just not real bright.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:23:29am

Just a small sample of the area being searched for the three cop killers in NW IL.

If they aren’t long gone by now, they’ll have one hell of a time tracking them down. Schools still on hard lockdown. Students locked in classrooms for more than 5 hours, not allowed to even move within school buildings.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:24:02am

re: #501 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST TWEET OF THE DAY==>
Spoilered to prevent you from throwing up in your mouth.

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Where I’m from, “gone white” is a euphemism for “bled out.”

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Timothy Watson  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:24:35am

re: #523 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I suspect Steven’s just not real bright.

I need to find the old post where we were mocking his investment “advice” and he was bemoaning not being able to buy a car outright and financing a car was teh ebil or something.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:25:39am

Uh oh looks like Miss Carly will be sitting at the kids table again on CNN.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:26:10am

re: #527 The Vicious Babushka

Uh oh looks like Miss Carly will be sitting at the kids table again on CNN.

liberal conspiracy. /

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:28:03am

re: #526 Timothy Watson

I need to find the old post where we were mocking his investment “advice” and he was bemoaning not being able to buy a car outright and financing a car was teh ebil or something.

That was a doozy. He proved proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with geometric logic that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:28:06am

Captain Kirk has spoken:

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:28:37am

re: #527 The Vicious Babushka

Uh oh looks like Miss Carly will be sitting at the kids table again on CNN.

So who’s that leave us with?
1. Donald
2. Carson
3. Perry Graham Rand
4. Huck
5. Kasich
6. NJ
7. Canada
8. Walker
9. Florida Bush
10. Florida Rubio

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:28:43am

re: #530 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s ceased to boldly go.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:29:25am

re: #530 Backwoods_Sleuth

Captain Kirk has spoken:

Shouldn’t need to be said.

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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:29:52am

re: #522 Higgs Boson’s Mate

There are days when I do believe that parthenogenesis should have been nature’s ultimate goal for Homo sapiens.

Scientists are working on it! That would be the fruition of a robust set of DNA.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:30:09am

re: #532 jaunte

He’s ceased to boldly go.

Maybe he did once and then he boldly went.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:30:44am

re: #527 The Vicious Babushka

Uh oh looks like Miss Carly will be sitting at the kids table again on CNN.

That’s the infamous HP dead corporate bounce. For all the talk about how she was the big winner in the debates (big kid or l’il kid’s table), the outcome is same - she like rest of the afterthoughts are still afterthoughts.

Christie, however, promises to be a mushroom cloud laying mofo, because he hasn’t exactly lit things up so far. In other words, he’s going to attempt nuking a union on tv, because all prior efforts to eviscerate one have failed to elicit support even among the GOP.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:32:19am

re: #534 wrenchwench

Scientists are working on it! That would be the fruition of a robust set of DNA.

I’m talkin’ polyploidy. We evolved from a polyploid species after all.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:34:31am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:34:32am

MOAR DERP FROM INBRED CROWDER==>

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:34:34am

re: #536 lawhawk

Sadly, I pack away my “Carly is Gnarly” t shirt.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:35:50am

re: #530 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is why I’m a Star Wars fan.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:35:51am

re: #530 Backwoods_Sleuth

What would a privileged old white male know about pizza!

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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:36:36am

re: #538 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I’m talkin’ polyploidy. We evolved from a polyploid species after all.

Clearly, you advanced farther in Biology class than I did.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:36:46am

re: #540 The Vicious Babushka

MOAR DERP FROM INBRED CROWDER==>

I don’t know. First Steven talks about his junk. Now he’s talking about SSM. I’m not suggesting anything I’m just asking questions…

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:36:47am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:36:49am

HURR HURR LIBRULZ IS TEH INTOLERANZ WHEN THEY SAYS WE CANTS BE INTOLERANT!!!!1!!!1!!!

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b.d.  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:37:48am

re: #530 Backwoods_Sleuth

Captain Kirk has spoken:

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I take no pizza advice from Canadians.

BUILD THE DAMN FENCE!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:38:33am

Just saw the first Paypal scam tweet using Kim Davis’s name.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:38:55am

re: #548 b.d.

Also, Canadians invented the “Hawaiian” pizza.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:39:37am

HURR HURR SCIENCE IS TEH DEMONIC!!!!1!!!

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:39:48am

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It's on his hat!  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:39:57am

I don’t care who invented it, pineapple on pizza is delicious.

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Timothy Watson  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:40:32am

re: #550 Nyet

Also, Canadians invented the “Hawaiian” pizza.

Canada must burn then. The parents on South Park: The Movie had it right.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:41:19am

This thread is making me hungry,

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It's on his hat!  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:41:20am

re: #551 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR SCIENCE IS TEH DEMONIC!!!!1!!!

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His column is called The Stand?

I much prefer the Stephen King novel. Less disturbing.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:42:28am

re: #552 Dr. Matt

And Hurricane Fred in the Atlantic became the first hurricane to form east of the Cape Verdes and actually hit the Cape Verdes as a hurricane. We’re starting to see stuff in meteorology never seen before as long as records exist.

Not good at all - especially considering that just a few weeks ago, sand from Africa was thwarting development of hurricanes in that part of the ocean. Now, conditions are ripe to develop storms. And we’re in the height of the hurricane season.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:42:54am

re: #551 The Vicious Babushka

My latest column: Is Illness Demonic or Physical? t.co
— Bryan Fischer

I always love reading these tweets from 1738.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:43:02am

re: #554 Timothy Watson

Canada must burn then. The parents on South Park: The Movie had it right.

That’s right, let’s burn Canada and plunder all that delicious pineapple pizza!

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:43:27am

God vs. the Constitution in Kentucky
By Jesse Wegman

…it’s worth repeating once again: No one is telling Ms. Davis what she may or may not believe, or how to live her own life in accord with the dictates of her conscience and her God. What they are saying is that as an employee and representative of the government, she lives under the law, not above it.
takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:43:50am

re: #558 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I always love reading these tweets from 1738.

1438.

18th century folks were more enlightened.

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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:43:53am

I like her twitter bio:

Just a Girl From Homer, Alaska Survived being sued by Sarah Palin-she quit half way through. I fish. A lot. I’m a Factivist. Cricket nut.

She’s also in Wikipedia:

Shannyn Moore (born June 12, 1970) is an American political blogger based in Alaska. Moore is a writer for The Huffington Post and has been a prominent critic of former Alaska governor Sarah Palin. She has appeared on such television shows as The Rachel Maddow Show and Countdown with Keith Olbermann.[1][2] Moore also launched her own political talk show, Moore Up North, in November 2009.[3]

After Sarah Palin announced her resignation as Governor of Alaska, Palin and her attorneys released a statement threatening legal action to those who “propagate defamatory material” about her. The statement added “To the extent several websites, most notably liberal Alaska blogger Shannyn Moore, are now claiming as ‘fact’ that Governor Palin resigned because she is ‘under federal investigation’ for embezzlement or other criminal wrongdoing, we will be exploring legal options this week to address such defamation”, her attorney said. “This is to provide notice to Ms. Moore, and those who re-publish the defamation, such as Huffington Post, MSNBC, the New York Times and The Washington Post, that the Palins will not allow them to propagate defamatory material without answering to this in a court of law.”[4]

Moore responded in a press conference that Palin is “a coward and a bully” and that she never claimed the rumors were fact but only pointed out they existed.[4]

Shame on me for not knowing of her sooner!

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:44:44am

Oh goodie, another bogus CMP agitprop video just dropped (making claims that a fetus just dropped out).

564
Timothy Watson  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:45:09am

Goddamn expensive college textbooks.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:45:54am

re: #564 Timothy Watson

Average price?

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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:46:40am

re: #564 Timothy Watson

Goddamn expensive college textbooks.

They should all be available on the internet. Gotta figure out how to pay the authors (fairly).

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Lidane  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:47:08am

re: #564 Timothy Watson

Goddamn expensive college textbooks.

That’s why renting textbooks, buying used on Amazon, or eBooks are the way to go.

Fuck the textbook industry. Talk about a scam.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:48:10am

re: #551 The Vicious Babushka

My latest column: Is Illness Demonic or Physical? t.co
— Bryan Fischer

I’ll answer this one:

If true Christian patriot America is sick=physical
If heathen anti-Christian secular liberal Muslims get sick=demonic.

/

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Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:49:16am

re: #567 Lidane

That’s why renting textbooks, buying used on Amazon, or eBooks are the way to go.

rodney dangerfield back to school bookstore

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Timothy Watson  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:51:16am

re: #565 Nyet

Average price?

One’s $264 new, $155 used.

For the others, the teachers are either using old versions or say the older versions will work (one professor listed review questions for 4th through the 9th editions of the book). 9th edition new is $330, got 8th edition used for $38.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:51:28am

re: #540 The Vicious Babushka

MOAR DERP FROM INBRED CROWDER==>

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Leaving aside the bigotry angle momentarily, where is it written that I have to be tolerant of someone breaking the law? Why do I have to tolerate someone that won’t do her job?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:52:08am

re: #570 Timothy Watson

One’s $264 new, $155 used.

For the others, the teachers are either using old versions or say the older versions will work (one professor listed review questions for 4th through the 9th editions of the book). 9th edition new is $330, got 8th edition used for $38.

Get the eff outta here.

My god.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:52:14am

re: #570 Timothy Watson

*whistle*

With such prices I’d go pirating without a second thought.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:52:42am

re: #570 Timothy Watson

Can you name a couple of the priciest?

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:52:43am

re: #544 wrenchwench

Clearly, you advanced farther in Biology class than I did.

Learned what little I know well after school. Decades ago, a very well-educated young woman and I were living together. She discovered that polyploid strains of cannabis delivered the most potent smoke. We embarked on inducing ploidy in some of the heartier strains of cannabis and a few years later we had a grocery bag full of seeds. A buddy and I took that bag on a long road trip…

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Timothy Watson  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:52:48am

re: #566 wrenchwench

They should all be available on the internet. Gotta figure out how to pay the authors (fairly).

I bought the 14th edition of Intermediate Accounting textbook in the spring, the university decided to go to the 15th edition this semester (the last semester I need the damn book). I…”found” a PDF of the 15th edition online.

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lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:53:13am

Whoa.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:53:24am

re: #573 Nyet

*whistle*

With such prices I’d go pirating without a second thought.

organized crime seems like a better route.

/

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Jenner7  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:53:29am

Had a lost Great Dane puppy wander into my neighborhood. He looked so thin, so we fed him. Called the city and they took him home. Ran into the city official again, turns out his sibling is also missing. Lady who owns them says she’s been feeding them what the vet recommends and that she fed them this morning. I hope they find the other one, they are beautiful puppies.

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Kragar  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:53:36am

re: #571 Mike Lamb

Leaving aside the bigotry angle momentarily, where is it written that I have to be tolerant of someone breaking the law? Why do I have to tolerate someone that won’t do her job?

Where does it state the order of precedence on which religious beliefs are to be applied?

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:53:43am

re: #576 Timothy Watson

That’s the spirit!

582
Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:54:27am

re: #576 Timothy Watson

Donald E. Kieso, Jerry J. Weygandt, Terry D. Warfield?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:54:32am

re: #571 Mike Lamb

Leaving aside the bigotry angle momentarily, where is it written that I have to be tolerant of someone breaking the law? Why do I have to tolerate someone that won’t do her job?

Because liberals are all like you can’t say the N word and call us intolerant and so liberals are intolerant HURR HURR!!!

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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:55:43am

re: #575 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I knew that stuff was educational!

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:55:54am

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It's on his hat!  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:57:18am

re: #580 Kragar

Where does it state the order of precedence on which religious beliefs are to be applied?

PEMDAS:

Presbyterian, Evangelical, Methodist, Deist, Apostolic, Seventh-Day Adventist

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:57:31am

re: #583 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Because liberals are all like you can’t say the N word and call us intolerant and so liberals are intolerant HURR HURR!!!

RWNJ MEME==>

FIXED==>

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:57:32am

re: #577 lawhawk

Wow. He’s still alive?

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Timothy Watson  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:57:43am

re: #582 Nyet

Donald E. Kieso, Jerry J. Weygandt, Terry D. Warfield?

Yeah, that’s the one. 154mb download. :)

Funny thing was that I was just looking for the instructor’s powerpoint slides to review since the instructor hadn’t posted them and ended up finding the PDF of the 15th edition. :)

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Kragar  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:57:59am

O’Keefe’s Project Veritas Action accused the Clinton campaign on September 1 of allowing a Canadian tourist to launder money, in the form of allowing a t-shirt to be purchased.

In the video representatives of the Clinton campaign at a campaign event point out to a woman from Montreal that that the campaign can’t take contributions from anyone who isn’t American. An undercover activist from Project Veritas then makes the purchase on behalf of the Canadian.

As The Washington Post’s Dave Weigel points out: “There are just two catches. One: No one’s ever thrown the book at an American for purchasing merchandise from a campaign, then giving it to a foreigner as a gift. Two: The person who takes the Canadian’s money and gives it to the Clinton campaign is the Project Veritas Action journalist.”

Weigel further notes, “Daniel Pollack, the director of communications at Project Veritas, argued that the on-camera swag exchange was part of a Clinton scandal continuum, comparable to the stories about foreign businessmen donating to Bill Clinton’s foundation and expecting something from Hillary Clinton’s state department.”

O’Keefe held a press conference September 1 to promote the video, where journalists reportedly asked him “Is this a joke?”

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:59:12am

re: #584 wrenchwench

I knew that stuff was educational!

Heh. The neat part for me is that after giving up pot for years and years my doctor recommended that I try medical marijuana to alleviate the effects chronic depression and PTSD. The stuff works well and it’s definitely polyploid so I may actually be enjoying some of the fruits of my labors.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:59:22am

re: #569 Dr. Matt

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Larger

Professor Sam Kinison. R.I.P.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:59:38am

re: #551 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR SCIENCE IS TEH DEMONIC!!!!1!!!

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I told Bryan, in his case I vote mental.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:59:39am

LOLWHUT==>

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Lidane  Sep 1, 2015 • 11:59:51am

re: #570 Timothy Watson

One’s $264 new, $155 used.

For the others, the teachers are either using old versions or say the older versions will work (one professor listed review questions for 4th through the 9th editions of the book). 9th edition new is $330, got 8th edition used for $38.

Amazon. Seriously. Especially if you can use an older version of a textbook.

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Skip Intro  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:00:14pm

re: #486 darthstar

In Iowa, an aide to Walker said that the Governor was “still processing” the news that he had been put up for sale. “It takes a while for Scott to understand things,” the aide said.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:00:53pm

re: #590 Kragar

O’Keefe held a press conference September 1 to promote the video, where journalists reportedly asked him “Is this a joke?”

Non-award winning journalists must not care about corruption, scandal and malfeasance in high places.

///

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:01:09pm

re: #589 Timothy Watson

kWsT0WydoYCQfZTzKX0Vvt+jC1aEOE/9H+dkQfktseIw9NqBjJwcHxoXMf6vuGFH

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:01:15pm

re: #594 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWHUT==>

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She’s a blue dog democrat.
Liberal? Nope.

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wrenchwench  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:02:05pm

re: #591 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Heh. The neat part for me is that after giving up pot for years and years my doctor recommended that I try medical marijuana to alleviate the effects chronic depression and PTSD. The stuff works well and it’s definitely polyploid so I may actually be enjoying some of the fruits of my labors.

Along with many other people. Your distribution was a service to so many.

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Nyet  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:02:09pm

re: #594 The Vicious Babushka

He also called Dylann Roof a liberal.

Basically, he’s saying that he’s waaaay to the right of them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:02:34pm

And it’s not any kind of “news” that Kim Davis is a democrat. That’s been reported since day one.

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Lidane  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:03:25pm

re: #599 Backwoods_Sleuth

She’s a blue dog democrat.
Liberal? Nope.

She’s a “Democrat”. My guess is that a bunch of Republicans all lined up to run for office so she ran as a Democrat to have an easier chance of winning.’

Happens all over the south, especially here in Texas.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:03:28pm

re: #590 Kragar

O’Keefe’s Project Veritas Action accused the Clinton campaign on September 1 of allowing a Canadian tourist to launder money, in the form of allowing a t-shirt to be purchased.

I wonder what the war room discussion at Project Veritas Action was like when this plan was proposed.

“This is? This the best we got?”

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jaunte  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:03:39pm

Slime mold using the murders of police to boost his campaign.

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It's on his hat!  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:04:07pm

re: #602 Backwoods_Sleuth

And it’s not any kind of “news” that Kim Davis is a democrat. That’s been reported since day one.

Actually, I wasn’t aware, and I thought I had been paying close attention to this story.

Goes to show how unimportant party affiliation is when all your job entails is paperwork.

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aagcobb  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:04:13pm

re: #602 Backwoods_Sleuth

And it’s not any kind of “news” that Kim Davis is a democrat. That’s been reported since day one.

Unlike more southern states, many of Kentucky’s conservative Democrats haven’t switched their registration to the GOP. Yet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:05:03pm

re: #603 Lidane

She’s a “Democrat”. My guess is that a bunch of Republicans all lined up to run for office so she ran as a Democrat to have an easier chance of winning.’

Happens all over the south, especially here in Texas.

She got elected because her mom was county clerk before her. That elected office has been in the family for decades.

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Kryptik  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:05:24pm

re: #587 The Vicious Babushka

“I am FILLED with Christ’s love!”
Video

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:05:35pm

re: #608 Backwoods_Sleuth

She got elected because her mom was county clerk before her. That elected office has been in the family for decades.

So, kind of like a local Bush.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:05:49pm

re: #610 The Vicious Babushka

So, kind of like a local Bush.

yep

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retired cynic  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:06:10pm

re: #608 Backwoods_Sleuth

She got elected because her mom was county clerk before her. That elected office has been in the family for decades.

And her son is set to take it over after her. Right?

613
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:07:07pm

re: #585 jaunte

wow…my tweet already has 4 favorites and 12 retweets.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:07:23pm

re: #612 retired cynic

And her son is set to take it over after her. Right?

no doubt.

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Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:07:57pm

re: #608 Backwoods_Sleuth

She got elected because her mom was county clerk before her. That elected office has been in the family for decades.

The results of an outside audit would likely be interesting even to non-accountants.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:09:07pm

re: #605 jaunte

Cruz links violence against police to Obama administration’s “vilifying” of police going back to HL Gates in 2009 pic.twitter.com
— Christopher Hooks

The police, or police actions, can never be criticized by anyone ever and to do so is worse than the holocaust.

Also, why are Democrats so politically correct all the time, telling people what they can and cannot say, who we can or cannot criticize?

////

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:09:53pm

re: #614 Backwoods_Sleuth

no doubt.

Is the son married or is a marriage being arranged for him to bear an heir or heirs?

618
Kragar  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:10:08pm

619
Dr Lizardo  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:11:07pm

re: #577 lawhawk

I’d never even heard of that; I had to look it up. Apparently, the case went to a grand jury early last year.

en.wikipedia.org

and warning, the description is somewhat graphic as to Ms. Argentino’s injuries.

Wow.

And with that, goodnight, Lizards.

620
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:12:24pm

re: #617 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Is the son married or is a marriage being arranged for him to bear an heir or heirs?

no idea.
don’t wanna know…

621
Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:15:17pm

re: #617 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Is the son married or is a marriage being arranged for him to bear an heir or heirs?

I stand foursquare for the right to bear heirs as long as you don’t put on airs about it.

622
lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:18:13pm

re: #603 Lidane

The same way that Democrats switch over to the R line in the NYC metro area.

623
lawhawk  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:19:57pm

re: #588 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I know! Considering how young so many wrestlers die from the injuries sustained, or the drugs, or the wear and tear of a very hard life, he’s one of the few real survivors.

And it turns out that he may have killed a women in the course of a domestic disturbance. Just sad - and even sadder that it took this long to consider bringing him to justice.

624
De Kolta Chair  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:24:13pm

This is my SHOCKED face…

625
Eventual Carrion  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:31:26pm

re: #590 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Did Hill at least kiss the Canadian like Bush did for his Saudi backer?

626
Eventual Carrion  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:33:31pm

re: #596 Skip Intro

They’re still trying to get him weened off Velcro strap shoes to the hard tie kind.

627
Eventual Carrion  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:34:32pm

re: #603 Lidane

She’s a “Democrat”. My guess is that a bunch of Republicans all lined up to run for office so she ran as a Democrat to have an easier chance of winning.’

Happens all over the south, especially here in Texas.

We have many here in local elections that run as both rep/dem.

628
plansbandc  Sep 1, 2015 • 12:54:31pm

re: #501 The Vicious Babushka

I feel ever so sorry for the poor white men in this country. They are so put upon and besieged like.

629
WhatEVs  Sep 1, 2015 • 1:02:05pm

re: #501 The Vicious Babushka

Likewise…


630
Dr. Matt  Sep 1, 2015 • 1:03:32pm

re: #594 The Vicious Babushka

BTW, Kim Davis is a liberal Democrat. Just FYI. t.co
— Steven Crowder (@scrowder) September 1, 2015

Then why are RWNJs defending her?

631
Dave In Austin  Sep 1, 2015 • 1:23:32pm

re: #591 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Thank you….

632
Decatur Deb  Sep 1, 2015 • 2:38:15pm

re: #600 wrenchwench

Along with many other people. Your distribution was a service to so many.

Johnny Stemsnseeds.

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EPR-radar  Sep 1, 2015 • 2:40:21pm

re: #223 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

You can split hairs all you want. 3/5 of a person is 3/5 human.

I’m late to this party, but this kind of analysis can’t be applied to the 3/5 compromise.

It falls apart instantaneously once it is noted that the north wanted slaves to count for nothing in terms of representation and the south wanted 100%. 60% was the eventual compromise.

The fact that the south wanted the number to be higher hardly means that the south thought the black slaves were more human. They just wanted as much power in the House of Representatives and in the electoral college as possible.


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