A Song That’s Lost None of Its Power: Peter Gabriel, “Red Rain”

With the trust of a child
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The official Red Rain video. Directed by Matt Mahurin.
http://www.petergabriel.com

Red rain is coming down
Red rain
Red rain is pouring down
Pouring down all over me

I am standing up at the water’s edge in my dream
I cannot make a single sound as you scream
it can’t be that cold, the ground is still warm to touch
(Hay ay ay we touch)
This place is so quiet sensing that storm

Red rain is coming down
Red rain
Red rain is pouring down
Pouring down all over me

Well I’ve seen them buried in a sheltered place in this town
They tell you that this rain can sting, and look down
There is no blood around
See no sign of pain
Hay ay ay no pain
Seeing no red at all, see no rain

Red rain is coming down
Red rain
Red rain is pouring down
Pouring down all over me

Red rain
Putting the pressure on much harder now
To return again and again
Just let the red rain splash you
Let the rain fall on your skin
I come to you defences down
With the trust of a child

Red rain coming down
Red rain
Red rain is pouring down
Pouring down all over me
And I can’t watch anymore
No more denial
It’s so hard to lay down in all of this
Red rain coming down
Red rain is pouring down
Red rain is coming down all over me

I see it
Red rain coming down
Red rain is pouring down
Red rain is coming down all over me
I’m bathing in
Red rain coming down
Red rain is coming down
Red rain is coming down all over me
I’m begging you
Red rain coming down
Red rain coming down
Red rain coming down
Red rain coming down
Over me in the red red sea
Over me, over me, red rain

Written by Peter Gabriel
Published by Real World Music Ltd / Pentagon Lipservices Real World
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309 comments
1
Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 28, 2015 • 9:00:28pm

reposted from downstairs…Borat returns on Jimmy Kimmel:

BORAT Premieres the New Trailer for “The Brothers Grimsby”

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teleskiguy  Dec 28, 2015 • 9:03:21pm
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austin_blue  Dec 28, 2015 • 9:03:47pm

That song is just terrifying.

Eerie as shit. This is why Gabriel is a genius songwriter.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 28, 2015 • 9:10:51pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 28, 2015 • 9:18:10pm

re: #4 FormerDirtDart

You just wait, this will lead to toy guns being more freaking regulated than the real thing…

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austin_blue  Dec 28, 2015 • 9:18:36pm

Ah, a strong El Nino winter. Strap in, kids, it’s going to be a bumpy ride:

cnn.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 28, 2015 • 9:30:26pm

re: #6 austin_blue

Ah, a strong El Nino winter. Strap in, kids, it’s going to be a bumpy ride:

cnn.com

It’s really like The Day After Tomorrow come to life, except the storms are more localized.

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ausador  Dec 28, 2015 • 9:33:49pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

You just wait, this will lead to toy guns being more freaking regulated than the real thing…

Was following a discussion elsewhere today and discovered that miniguns aren’t restricted in any way. There simply isn’t any regulation against owning one on the books yet. So if you want to pony up about $215,000 you can buy this…
everydaynodaysoff.com

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KiTA  Dec 28, 2015 • 9:36:59pm

Got hit by a car on the way home. I’m fine. We’ll see how the leg does after the numbness wears off. I finished my walk home without issue.

… Weird day. All I could think about as it was happening / afterwards was my ex girlfriend from the old job. Does that make me a creepy ex boyfriend? Probably.

Can’t die before the Wingnut freakout from Clinton (or Sanders) winning. It’ll take more than a Dodge Grand Caravan to ruin that for me.

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ibob  Dec 28, 2015 • 9:39:01pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

Having computer problems. Also, reposted from downstairs:

From previous thread. Sorry. Late as always. I had infertility problems also. Know how it feels. Took me 4 1/2 years to get each child. It was easier for me to become a doctor than it was for me to become a mother.

You both have probably seen someone for this so anything I have to contribute is not necessary. The only thing I can say is the most important thing with an infertility workup is having a good obgyn or infertility specialist helping. There should always be a plan, even if the plan waiting for 3 months after a medication change. Otherwise, 6 months will be gone without anything being done and time is important due to your wife’s age. I assume you have had a semen analysis performed at the very least. Infertility is a couple problem.

Wish I could really help. Just don’t give up. Most of the couples I have treated have gotten pregnant eventually.

Also, don’t let your wife go to any baby showers. It is like rubbing salt in a wound. Someone can send a gift in her name.

Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 28, 2015 • 9:39:48pm

re: #8 ausador

Well if I ever want to do a Terminator re-enactment I know where to go.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 28, 2015 • 9:41:19pm

re: #10 ibob

Thank you for your comments. Unfortunately, my health insurance doesn’t cover ANY infertility testing, etc. The only thing it would cover if we went that way was fertility drugs (Clomid, etc.). My wife is planning to hook up with a new OB-GYN soon so we’ll see how that goes.

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ausador  Dec 28, 2015 • 9:52:24pm

This is why drone owners can’t have nice things… (like no registration)

Somebody always has to go too far.

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ausador  Dec 28, 2015 • 10:05:10pm

So the prosecutor didn’t even have to go to the grand jury, he could have charged either or both officers if he had wanted to. The grand jury was used to let him get away with not charging either of them without taking sole responsibility for it. :(

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KGxvi  Dec 28, 2015 • 10:07:10pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

You just wait, this will lead to toy guns being more freaking regulated than the real thing…

When I was a kid, we had water guns that looked like real guns - and I’m not talking pistols, I mean machine gun replicas (do a google image search for Entertech water guns). There were a few incidents where officers shot kids with rather realistic looking water guns. So they started painting the muzzle red, and that didn’t work. So they started painting the water guns all sorts of funky colors so they could not be easily confused with real guns.

My main point is this isn’t a new phenomenon. After 20 years, you’d think cops would be trained to either know the difference between toy guns and real guns, or trained to figure it out quickly without shooting first.

For reference, I had this as a kid: Image: DCP_6111.jpg

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KGxvi  Dec 28, 2015 • 10:12:21pm

re: #8 ausador

Huh… That seems like a loop hole that should probably be closed… Of course, they’ll probably make one where the button is moved/replaced and change the name and then it’ll be legal again.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 28, 2015 • 10:14:33pm

re: #8 ausador

Was following a discussion elsewhere today and discovered that miniguns aren’t restricted in any way. There simply isn’t any regulation against owning one on the books yet. So if you want to pony up about $215,000 you can buy this…
everydaynodaysoff.com

Was that thing made before or after 1986?

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ausador  Dec 28, 2015 • 10:24:46pm

re: #16 KGxvi

Huh… That seems like a loop hole that should probably be closed… Of course, they’ll probably make one where the button is moved/replaced and change the name and then it’ll be legal again.

Was looking at the regs, miniguns manufactured pre-1986 are fully transferrable to anyone with an FFL. Later models require a class III license which is somewhat harder to get, especially if local law enforcement disapproves.

Oh, plus the cost of the federal tax stamp can be as much as $200,000 on top of the purchase price.

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ausador  Dec 28, 2015 • 10:26:17pm

re: #17 Timothy Watson

Was that thing made before or after 1986?

That is pre-86, so fully transferrable as they state in the add.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 28, 2015 • 10:38:10pm

re: #10 ibob

Also it’s very ironic the term “Minigun” has now been co-opted to mean all manner of very large, dangerous, high RPM weapons.

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KingKenrod  Dec 28, 2015 • 10:39:08pm

It’s pretty difficult to find popular music from the mid to late 80’s that isn’t ruined by the production techniques that were popular at the time, but Daniel Lanois’s projects really stand up. So is one of them - I also like Robbie Robertson’s first solo release and of course The Unforgettable Fire & The Joshua Tree. And Dylan’s Oh Mercy is the only post-Desire release of his that I really like.

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teleskiguy  Dec 28, 2015 • 10:59:53pm

re: #21 KingKenrod

Dylan’s Oh Mercy is the only post-Desire release of his that I really like.

Political World

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Amory Blaine  Dec 28, 2015 • 11:04:16pm

Federal judge’s ruling on evidence could fuel John Doe appeal to U.S. Supreme Court

Investigators have asked a federal judge to overrule a state Supreme Court order that they turn over evidence from their secret criminal investigation into Gov. Scott Walker’s recall campaign.

Should U.S. District Judge Lynn Adelman grant the request, it would set up a high-level clash between state and federal courts, perhaps giving the U.S. Supreme Court another reason to intervene, according to a former state Supreme Court justice.

“The (Wisconsin) Supreme Court has created a hornets’ nest over this evidence and I don’t know how they get themselves out of it,” former Justice Janine Geske said in an interview Monday. “I suspect there are going to be some justices at the U.S. Supreme Court who say, ‘We’ve got to look at what’s going on in Wisconsin.’ ”

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freetoken  Dec 28, 2015 • 11:10:05pm

One of my better finds as far as links for this season:

MP3 Audio

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Kragar  Dec 28, 2015 • 11:19:29pm

Heavy metal icon Ian ‘Lemmy’ Kilmister dies at 70

“There is no easy way to say this… our mighty, noble friend Lemmy passed away today after a short battle with an extremely aggressive cancer,” the band said on their official Facebook page.

“He had learnt of the disease on December 26th, and was at home, sitting in front of his favourite video game from The Rainbow… with his family.

“We cannot begin to express our shock and sadness, there aren’t words.”

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KingKenrod  Dec 28, 2015 • 11:19:53pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

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Video

Yeah, that’s a good one. It came out when I was in my early twenties and I frankly hadn’t paid much attention to Dylan until then.

I’ve been on a Dylan tear lately with the complete Basement Tapes and Cutting Edge boxsets being released in the last year.

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KingKenrod  Dec 28, 2015 • 11:21:35pm

One of my favorites from Robbie Robertson’s first solo release, 1987. Production by Lanois and Peter Gabriel plays keyboards.

Robbie Robertson “Broken Arrow” (1987)

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Kragar  Dec 28, 2015 • 11:29:05pm

motörhead - no voices in the sky

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Decatur Deb  Dec 29, 2015 • 12:02:02am

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

Also it’s very ironic the term “Minigun” has now been co-opted to mean all manner of very large, dangerous, high RPM weapons.

“Mini” in relation to it’s cousin the Vulcan 20mm.

(Ammunition is 75 cents/round at 6000rd/min.)

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Kragar  Dec 29, 2015 • 12:04:36am

Sabrina Lowe, of Rowlett, said 10 family members were visiting her apartment Saturday when they heard the distinctive train noise of the approaching tornado, reported NPR.

“We actually went outside and started commanding the winds, because God had given us authority over the winds, the airways,” Lowe said. “And we just began to command this storm not to hit our area. We spoke to the storm and said, ‘Go to unpopulated places.’ It did exactly what we said to do, because God gave us the authority to do that.”

Said tornado killed 8 and destroyed 600 buildings

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Decatur Deb  Dec 29, 2015 • 12:09:12am

re: #30 Kragar

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Said tornado killed 8 and destroyed 600 buildings

God is my co-defendant.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 29, 2015 • 12:10:55am

re: #30 Kragar

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Said tornado killed 8 and destroyed 600 buildings

Can the people who were injured or killed sue her for damages?

Which reminded me of the story of Charles Hatfield, a “rainmaker”, who was threaten with civil liability after flooding in San Diego:
en.wikipedia.org

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 12:21:45am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

The only allowed blatantly racist parody nowadays, if you think about it. At least the cover story for the original film was that it was about Americans (we should know better of course: imagine such a film about, say, a Jewish Israeli embodying all the worst antisemitic stereotypes in America, with the same excuse - that it is only about exposing antisemitism; doesn’t quite work, huh?), but what’s the excuse for using Borat outside that context? And yes, I’m guilty of finding it funny too.

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 29, 2015 • 12:55:54am

I have never found Borat funny, except for the mankini. That made me chuckle.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 29, 2015 • 2:29:06am

re: #3 austin_blue

That song is just terrifying.

Eerie as shit. This is why Gabriel is a genius songwriter.

Never been a favorite, but that is not faint praise or anything, there is just stuff of his I like a LOT better.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 29, 2015 • 2:31:29am

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

You just wait, this will lead to toy guns being more freaking regulated than the real thing…

Yes, and they will argue that toy guns are not Constitutionally protected.

Unless we amend the Second Amendment:

“A make-believe militia being necessary for the playtime of a free state, the right of young children to bear replica arms, shall not be infringed”

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 29, 2015 • 2:47:39am

re: #25 Kragar

Heavy metal icon Ian ‘Lemmy’ Kilmister dies at 70

I thought he died by jumping off a cliff into the sea, no wait that’s Lemming…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 29, 2015 • 2:48:43am

re: #30 Kragar

Texas Christian claims she diverted tornado to another neighborhood: ‘God had given us authority over the winds’

Said tornado killed 8 and destroyed 600 buildings

God gave her authority to order other people to their deaths?

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 2:52:30am

re: #38 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

God gave her authority to order other people to their deaths?

Sounds like the God of the Bible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 29, 2015 • 2:54:26am

re: #39 Nyet

Sounds like the God of the Bible.

It is the God of idiots.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 29, 2015 • 2:55:32am

Something to restore faith in God, though:

US ‘affluenza’ teenager Ethan Couch arrested in Mexico

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 3:05:36am

Meet Christian ISIS:

shoebat.com

Russia will invade the Islamic world, when it takes over Turkey and retakes the Hagia Sophia Church, and will destroy one third of the Islamic population in Turkey. After this, one third of the Muslims on in Turkey will reject Islam and convert to Christianity. This is the prophecy of the Elder Paisios, and this is what entire multitudes of Christian youths in Russia believe. I had the opportunity of interviewing one of these young zealous Christians, named Mila Odegova, to discuss the role that Russia will play in fighting Islam, and in being a major figure in advancing Christianity and combating the Islamic persecution of Christians. Mila is also very much involved in fighting the homosexual agenda in Russia, and is right now even being persecuted by the Russian government for righteously attacking a blasphemous “art” exhibit that insulted Jesus Christ.

[…]

We are willing to help Mila Odegova in her cause against the sodomites and the advancers of antichrist perversion, and for her defense against the government that possibly will cast Mila into prison for her noble actions.

And from elsewhere:

Theodore Shoebat: Let your Orthodox brothers know that they have supporters in America. I support the attack against evil especially against the sodomites

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 29, 2015 • 3:07:39am

re: #42 Nyet

Meet Christian ISIS:

shoebat.com

And from elsewhere:

Ah yes, inasmuch as the Russian slang term for a homosexual is a “pederast” they really see themselves as doing god’s work by ridding the world of gays.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 3:11:19am

re: #43 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Ah yes, inasmuch as the Russian slang term for a homosexual is a “pederast” they really see themselves as doing god’s work by ridding the world of gays.

A translator’s false friend. In colloquial Russian “pederastiya” is not associated with ephebophilia, not on the semantic level. It’s just a full synonym of “gomoseksual’nost’”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 29, 2015 • 3:16:10am

re: #44 Nyet

A translator’s false friend. In colloquial Russian “pederastiya” is not associated with ephebophilia, not on the semantic level. It’s just a full synonym of “gomoseksual’nost’”.

I always wondered about that. Still, there is a widespread belief that homosexuality is an unnatural aberration and one that is only propagated by adult homosexuals corrupting the young.

And guys like RIck Santorum see homosexuality, bestiality, spouse abuse and pederasty as moral equivalents.

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Targetpractice  Dec 29, 2015 • 3:19:05am

re: #14 ausador

So the prosecutor didn’t even have to go to the grand jury, he could have charged either or both officers if he had wanted to. The grand jury was used to let him get away with not charging either of them without taking sole responsibility for it. :(

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That’s really what this entire exercise was, just as it was with Garner in NYC and Brown in Ferguson, a cover for a prosecutor looking to dump a case he didn’t want. Thing is, I think McGinty actually surpassed the fuckery in those prior examples because he’s admitted he deliberately went before that grand jury with the intent to guide them towards not charging the cops.

It’s the conclusion to the statement that “you can indict a ham sandwich,” namely “but only if you want that sandwich indicted.”

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Timothy Watson  Dec 29, 2015 • 3:23:58am

re: #42 Nyet

Meet Christian ISIS:

shoebat.com

And from elsewhere:

And then we can nuke Russia because they’re the wrong kind of Christians.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 3:27:07am

re: #47 Timothy Watson

And then we can nuke Russia because they’re the wrong kind of Christians.

////

I think the American fundies look more and more sympathetically on Russia exactly because they like what they see vis a vis Orthodox fundamentalism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 29, 2015 • 3:28:54am

re: #48 Nyet

I think the American fundies look more and more sympathetically on Russia exactly because they like what they see vis a vis Orthodox fundamentalism.

And close affiliation with government.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 3:35:07am

re: #42 Nyet

Interesting how the common motifs repeat.

Here’s ISIS’ favorite hadith:

littlegreenfootballs.com

They will then fight and a third (part) of the army would run away, whom Allah will never forgive. A third (part of the army). which would be constituted of excellent martyrs in Allah’s eye, would be killed ani the third who would never be put to trial would win and they would be conquerors of Constantinople.

Here’s Paisios’ prophecy:

Specifically, Paisios wrote: “Events will start that will culminate with us taking back Constantinople. Constantinople will be given to us. There will be war between Russia and Turkey. In the beginning the Turks will believe they are winning, but this will lead to their destruction. The Russians, eventually, will win and take over Constantinople. After that it will be ours. They will be forced to give it to us.”

The text reads further, “(The Turks) will be destroyed. They will be eradicated because they are a nation that was built without God’s blessing. One third of the Turks will go back to where they came from, the depths of Turkey. One third will be saved because they will become Christians, and the other third will be killed in this war.” This is based on the Saint Kosmas prophecy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:26:51am

GOOD MORNING!
The Derp is up early.
STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Are they saying victims of sexual harassment are like Hitler?

Of course it is early so there will be MOAR DERPS.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:32:01am

re: #51 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t see anything specifically about sexual harassment, but the site they’re linking to is a creepy “patriot” site.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:32:59am

re: #51 The Vicious Babushka

GOOD MORNING!
The Derp is up early.
STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Are they saying victims of sexual harassment are like Hitler?

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Of course it is early so there will be MOAR DERPS.

Rather irritating to see the RWNJs co-opting the White Rose. They were socialists.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:34:14am

re: #30 Kragar

“Go to unpopulated areas” = “go someplace where we aren’t suicidally standing around looking at a huge tornado bearing down on us, but it’s totally OK if it nails someone else, praise Jesus!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:34:31am

re: #52 Nyet

I don’t see anything specifically about sexual harassment, but the site they’re linking to is a creepy “patriot” site.

The girl in the top photo is crying because she needs a “safe space” from sexual harassment.

To these wingnuts, she’s being just like Hitler.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:36:53am

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

The girl in the top photo is crying because she needs a “safe space” from sexual harassment.

To these wingnuts, she’s being just like Hitler.

Hitler was an evil maniac, but I suspect even he would get pissed at RWNJs comparing him to sexual harassment of young girls.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:37:10am

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

The girl in the top photo is crying because she needs a “safe space” from sexual harassment.

To these wingnuts, she’s being just like Hitler.

The concept of safe space is not limited to sexual harassment.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:38:17am
In a “Safe Space,” restrictions are placed on speech that is considered disrespectful, offensive, or oppressive toward traditionally marginalized identity groups. Debate continues over what speech is restricted and which groups are protected. It can be a physical space, like a University classroom, or a cyberspace, such as a Facebook wall.

An institution which supports a safe space for LGBT students and employees may offer or mandate staff training on diversity; includes being a safe space in the organization’s mission; develops and posts a value statement in the organization’s office, online, or on printed documents; or, if part of a coalition, encourages the coalition to include being a safe space in its mission and values.[2]

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:38:47am

re: #57 Nyet

The concept of safe space is not limited to sexual harassment.

People should be safe from all forms of bullying. Sexual harassment was just the first thing that came into my mind.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:39:49am

re: #52 Nyet

I don’t see anything specifically about sexual harassment, but the site they’re linking to is a creepy “patriot” site.

I think it is a reference to college “safe spaces” for people who are too sensitive to certain concepts.

Because only leftists are victims.

/

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:41:33am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Yes, it’s about those safe spaces.

Safe space: A place where anyone can relax and be fully self-expressed, without fear of being made to feel uncomfortable, unwelcome, or unsafe on account of biological sex, race/ethnicity, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, cultural background, age, or physical or mental ability; a place where the rules guard each person’s self-respect and dignity and strongly encourage everyone to respect others

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:41:35am

HURR HURR ALL TEH MINORITIES THINK I’M TEH MOAST TERRIFICS!!!11!!!!1!!!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:42:10am

re: #52 Nyet

I don’t see anything specifically about sexual harassment, but the site they’re linking to is a creepy “patriot” site.

The Patrick Henry Society classifies the SPLC as a hate group, and that’s all you pretty much need to know to size the PHS up.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:43:57am

re: #63 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Could have guessed from the name.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:45:17am

re: #63 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I mean the Order of the White Rose tho. Dunno what these guys are up to, but they call themselves patriots and there’s some gun nuttery on the front page.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:45:32am

re: #64 Nyet

Could have guessed from the name.

From their Facebook page, the PHS is “a site focused on intelligence analysis, alerts, tactical information, and resources for three-percenters.”

Thanks, guys, I’ll pass.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:48:03am

[Founding Father]/[Liberty-Freedom]/[Brand of Christianity] [Club/Society] is usually a giveaway.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:49:57am

re: #67 Nyet

[Founding Father]/[Liberty-Freedom]/[Brand of Christianity] [Club/Society] is usually a giveaway.

These guys are more like Hitler than the White Rose. They’d call the actual White Rose “SJW”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:50:10am

re: #65 Nyet

I mean the Order of the White Rose tho. Dunno what these guys are up to, but they call themselves patriots and there’s some gun nuttery on the front page.

Oh, yeah, I’m peeking at the whiterose.us page now. They look like sovereign citizen/militia types preparing for the end of the civilization as they know it.

Also nutters.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 4:51:10am

re: #68 The Vicious Babushka

These guys are more like Hitler than the White Rose. They’d call the actual White Rose “SJW”

Heh, good point. Some probably do, like that Franco-loving vet.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 29, 2015 • 5:08:07am

re: #61 Nyet

Yes, it’s about those safe spaces.

Safe space: A place where anyone can relax and be fully self-expressed, without fear of being made to feel uncomfortable, unwelcome, or unsafe on account of biological sex, race/ethnicity, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, cultural background, age, or physical or mental ability; a place where the rules guard each person’s self-respect and dignity and strongly encourage everyone to respect others

Pretty much rules out Alpha Company.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 29, 2015 • 5:11:26am

Some good news

Affluenza Teen Ethan Couch Reportedly Arrested in Mexico

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Tigger2  Dec 29, 2015 • 5:11:30am

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR ALL TEH MINORITIES THINK I’M TEH MOAST TERRIFICS!!!11!!!!1!!!

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LOL I bet they do, he might get a few stragglers

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 5:11:47am

en.wikipedia.org

While at the consulate chapel, he converted three Japanese, one of whom, a former samurai and Shinto priest named Sawabe Takuma, had originally come to his home to kill him. After conversion, Sawabe became one of the first Japanese Orthodox priests.

[…]

During the Russo-Japanese War, Nicholas stayed in Japan. Those days were very difficult for him. His love for the land of his birth conflicted with his duty as the bishop of Japan to support his faithful and to pray for the Japanese Emperor and the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy: in the orthodox liturgy at that time, priests had to explicitly pray not only benediction on the sovereign and his army, but also for the defeat of his enemies in the intercession. Nicholas therefore did not participate in any public services during the war; instead, he encouraged his Japanese faithful to both pray for and to contribute to the Army and Navy. Some encouraged him to go back to Russia, but he refused and worked eagerly for Japanese faithful and Russian prisoners of war.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 29, 2015 • 5:12:02am

re: #65 Nyet

I mean the Order of the White Rose tho. Dunno what these guys are up to, but they call themselves patriots and there’s some gun nuttery on the front page.

There are a couple White Rose “orders”. The one you have plays off Sophie Scholl’s anti-nazi group. That one is a bit more carefully edited than the frothing threeper sites it espouses.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 29, 2015 • 5:12:42am

I appreciate the notion that we should not condone bullying, and that “free speech” does not mean freedom from the consequences of one’s speech but, unfortunately, the notion of “safe spaces” has grown to include keeping college students being safe from being taught concepts that some people might find offensive.

It manifests itself in other ways, too: an Arizona state legislator tried to pass a law making it illegal to force students to learn material that offended their religious beliefs (a thinly-veiled attempt to ban teaching Evolution).

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 5:13:50am

re: #74 Nyet

Here’s the samurai cum Orthodox priest: orthodoxwiki.org

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 5:22:08am

Meanwhile the ruble is falling again. $1 costs more than 72 rubles for the first time in 17 years.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 29, 2015 • 5:30:08am

re: #78 Nyet

Meanwhile the ruble is falling again. $1 costs more than 72 rubles for the first time in 17 years.

I recall that when it got to 700 per dollar, they just removed two zeros.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 5:31:10am

Meanwhile Turkey has become enemy #1 in the Russian media, leaving Ukraine and USA behind. Now it is often called “the sponsor of ISIS”, a label earlier reserved for the USA.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 29, 2015 • 5:34:25am

re: #80 Nyet

Meanwhile Turkey has become enemy #1 in the Russian media, leaving Ukraine and USA behind. Now it is often called “the sponsor of ISIS”, a label earlier reserved for the USA.

Where are Russians going vacation now that Egypt and the Turkish Riviera are ruled out?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 29, 2015 • 5:38:53am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Where are Russians going vacation now that Egypt and the Turkish Riviera are ruled out?

Hainan in China and Thailand are top Russian winter getaways. There are so many Russians living in Sanya, Hainan, that the menus and shop signs are bilingual Chinese-Russian.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 29, 2015 • 5:40:15am

re: #82 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Hainan in China and Thailand are top Russian winter getaways. There are so many Russians living in Sanya, Hainan, that the menus and shop signs are bilingual Chinese-Russian.

I was amused when I was visiting in Venice and heard a shop assistant speaking to a customer in Russian with an Italian accent.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 5:40:29am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

“Cheaper” Europe - like Czechia or Greece - is still popular, for hotter climes one would probably fly to Dominicana, Thailand

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WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2015 • 5:45:45am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:07:36am

HEAR IS MOAR DERPS==>

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:09:15am

re: #66 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

From their Facebook page, the PHS is “a site focused on intelligence analysis, alerts, tactical information, and resources for three-percenters.”

Thanks, guys, I’ll pass.

Trying to remember my history here, but I don’t think Patrick Henry was himself a 3 percenter.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:10:10am

re: #87 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Trying to remember my history here, but I don’t think Patrick Henry was himself a 3 percenter.

No, but he was a slaveowner.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:11:39am

re: #86 The Vicious Babushka

Two Christian bakers in Oregon just yesterday were forced to pay a $144,000 fine to Oregon for being Christians. t.co
— Bryan Fischer

So all Christians are fined $144k now, just for being Christians, Bryan? There must be something you’re not telling us. ////

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:16:43am

re: #89 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So all Christians are fined $144k now, just for being Christians, Bryan? There must be something you’re not telling us. ////

It’s a new librul way to raise money to hand out to lazy good-for-nothings on Teh Welfare.
//

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:18:11am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area that finally feels like the season we’re supposed to be in, if only briefly. Winter occurred sometime overnight, as sleet and some white stuff remained on some grassy areas and cars this morning. It wont last though, as temps are supposed to rise into the 50s this afternoon.

So as the seasons seem to blend into each other these days, so too do the GOP candidates’ supporters.

Batcrap insanity all the way around.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:18:46am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:23:43am

Bryan keeps moving the goalposts.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:24:06am

re: #91 lawhawk

Ted Cruz supporters sound exactly like Trump supporters.

Because Cruz is the same as Trump and voting for him is just as bad. Something not everybody seems to understand.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:24:39am

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

He replied to you!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:24:53am

re: #94 Nyet

Because Cruz is the same as Trump and voting for him is just as bad. Something not everybody seems to understand.

Cruz is just like Trump but WITH MOAR JESUS!!!!!!!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:24:57am

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

I’m pretty sure the KKK would not be asking a black print shop owner to run copies for them. Try again, Bryan.

“It’s just like a kosher deli refusing to sell me sliced ham!”

“Bryan, kosher delis don’t sell ham. You have to go somewhere else.”

“Oppression!!’

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Le Lapin Tueur  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:27:15am

re: #94 Nyet

Because Cruz is the same as Trump and voting for him is just as bad. Something not everybody seems to understand.

If you (shudder) look at the WND comments in the minorities lurvs them sum tRump article, you’ll see that they find tRump acceptable, but a tad too liberal.

Comment- ‘r-v’ kerning in wingnut font is horrible.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:30:14am

First, the KKK isn’t a protected class.

Second, the printer doesn’t print flyers that discriminate for other customers and then deny that same service to a single group.

Third, VB, you have better things to do use logical arguments against the willfully ignorant.

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:30:54am

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

If the baker’s job is to bake a cake (and decorate it accordingly), a printer’s job is to print flyers (with whatever it is that is on them).

That’s a legitimate comparison. If they provide it to some people, but not others, then it would be discriminatory.

And yet…. here’s the rub though. If you provide flyers to some white folks who aren’t KKK, it undermines the fact that you’re discriminating. It isn’t discriminatory on race. Refusing to provide cakes to any person who is gay is a de facto violation of the NMSA 28-1-7 on grounds of discrimination on sexual orientation (a protected class).

More to the point, NMSA 28-1-7 doesn’t protect racists.

It is an unlawful discriminatory practice for:

F. any person in any public accommodation to make a distinction, directly or indirectly, in offering or refusing to offer its services, facilities, accommodations or goods to any person because of race, religion, color, national origin, ancestry, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, spousal affiliation or physical or mental handicap, provided that the physical or mental handicap is unrelated to a person’s ability to acquire or rent and maintain particular real property or housing accommodation;

Refusing to print KKK flyers isn’t discriminatory on grounds of race.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:32:39am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:34:14am

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

Danny’s concept of logic is nebulous, to say the least.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:35:27am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:37:36am

re: #103 The Vicious Babushka

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SATAN!!!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:38:22am

This constant whinging about persecution of Christians in the USA gets really tiresome. If they want to see real persecution, they ought to give China a whirl.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:39:49am

re: #104 Dr Lizardo

SATAN!!!

God’s plan was to send bigass tornadoes into Texas as punishment for convicting those god-fearing cake decorators. /

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:43:29am

Let’s say I own a kosher bakery. That means a am legally obligated to sell kosher pie to all customers, whether they are Jews, Christians, Muslim, Gay, Straight, Atheist, Pastafarian, etc.

I can’t refuse to sell pie to members of whatever church Bryan Fischer belongs to, and I don’t have to sell a bacon pie because that is not a product I provide to anyone.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:49:36am

re: #107 The Vicious Babushka

Let’s say I own a kosher bakery. That means a am legally obligated to sell kosher pie to all customers, whether they are Jews, Christians, Muslim, Gay, Straight, Atheist, Pastafarian, etc.

I can’t refuse to sell pie to members of whatever church Bryan Fischer belongs to, and I don’t have to sell a bacon pie because that is not a product I provide to anyone.

You are dealing with the kind of people who think eating halal turkeys turns people into Muslims. Selling a cake decorated for a gay wedding must then also turn the bakers/decorators into LGBT people.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:52:54am

re: #106 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

God’s plan was to send bigass tornadoes into Texas as punishment for convicting those god-fearing cake decorators. /

In Oregon.

*headdesk*

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makeitstop  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:53:54am

re: #21 KingKenrod

It’s pretty difficult to find popular music from the mid to late 80’s that isn’t ruined by the production techniques that were popular at the time, but Daniel Lanois’s projects really stand up. So is one of them - I also like Robbie Robertson’s first solo release and of course The Unforgettable Fire & The Joshua Tree. And Dylan’s Oh Mercy is the only post-Desire release of his that I really like.

Gabriel and Lanois pulled off a pretty neat trick - preserving the power of Gabriel’s songs while distancing them from the bombast of Genesis.

I pretty much lost interest in Genesis after PG left, but he really went out on a high note with The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway. Sure, it was a double album where maybe a single record would have sufficed, but that album was the bridge between early Genesis and the Gabriel solo stuff - the production was cutting-edge at the time, with a lot more presence than the Genesis albums that immediately proceeded it.

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WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:54:27am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 29, 2015 • 6:59:03am

re: #109 Dr Lizardo

In Oregon.

*headdesk*

He works in strange ways. /

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Sionainn  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:02:45am

Weren’t the bakery couple fined because they doxed the couple trying to buy a wedding cake?

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:04:00am

re: #112 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He works in strange ways. /

When Ireland approvegay marriage, he punished the country by giving it a rainbow and flooding Texas.

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No Country For Old Haters  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:04:09am

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR ALL TEH MINORITIES THINK I’M TEH MOAST TERRIFICS!!!11!!!!1!!!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:05:03am

re: #114 Belafon

When Ireland approvegay marriage, he punished the country by giving it a rainbow and flooding Texas.

You’re catching on.

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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:05:35am

re: #108 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You are dealing with the kind of people who think eating halal turkeys turns people into Muslims. Selling a cake decorated for a gay wedding must then also turn the bakers/decorators into LGBT people.

Is it that, our is it the fact that some of these people just like being “Christian” judgmental assholes that love to have groups of people they can feel they are better than? And by living a “Christian” life of being sanctimonious asswipes God will considered them more saved than others and they will get their pearly rewards when they die.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:05:58am

re: #113 Sionainn

Weren’t the bakery couple fined because they doxed the couple trying to buy a wedding cake?

No, they refused to bake a cake for their wedding.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:07:54am
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No Country For Old Haters  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:09:54am

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:11:45am

re: #115 No Country For Old Haters

WND (do not linked) used a polling outfit I’ve never heard of to produce the results. No idea what the metrics used, the question methodologies, or anything else that a typical polling outfit would use.

The results are from a new WND/Clout poll by Clout Research, a national opinion research firm in Columbus, Ohio. The telephone survey of registered voters was taken Dec. 18-27, except for the holiday, and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.35 percentage points.

Only Dr. Ben Carson pulled more support from the black community than Trump, at 50 percent, and no one had more support from Hispanics than Trump. Among Asians, 37.5 percent supported Sen. Marco Rubio, with Sen. Ted Cruz matching Trump’s 18.8 percent.

Among whites, Trump was far and away the leader, with 37.7 percent of the respondents. Cruz was second at 25.1 percent.

The rankings put Trump in the No. 1 slot, Cruz second at 23.3 percent, Rubio third at 10.1, Carson fourth at 9.4 percent, and Jeb Bush fifth at six percent.

No mention of how many people surveyed (though with that moe, we’re probably talking 700-1000 people). Thing is, the way the poll is reported, it could be that they’re reporting on those minorities who are GOP, which is a minority of all minorities. We’re talking such a small segment, that it’s hard to take anything away other than a catchy headline by a nutbar outfit that probably ran a push poll to get these results.

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No Country For Old Haters  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:12:08am

re: #117 ObserverArt

Is it that, our is it the fact that some of these people just like being “Christian” judgmental assholes that love to have groups of people they can feel they are better than? And by living a “Christian” life of being sanctimonious asswipes God will considered them more saved than others and they will get their pearly rewards when they die.

They like being “Conservative” judgemental assholes.
I’ve met plenty of sane Christians, other than the belief in the supernatural, but every single Conservative I meet turns out to be an insane right-wing authoritarian. Even the non-religious ones.

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makeitstop  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:14:34am

re: #121 lawhawk

WND (do not linked) used a polling outfit I’ve never heard of to produce the results. No idea what the metrics used, the question methodologies, or anything else that a typical polling outfit would use.

No mention of how many people surveyed (though with that moe, we’re probably talking 700-1000 people). Thing is, the way the poll is reported, it could be that they’re reporting on those minorities who are GOP, which is a minority of all minorities. We’re talking such a small segment, that it’s hard to take anything away other than a catchy headline by a nutbar outfit that probably ran a push poll to get these results.

Clout. Didn’t CCJ once tout them as proof of how much of an all-powerful journalist he was?

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:16:49am

Frankly, I wouldn’t order anything edible from people that hostile. They’ll probably spit in the food anyway.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:17:09am

re: #117 ObserverArt

Is it that, our is it the fact that some of these people just like being “Christian” judgmental assholes that love to have groups of people they can feel they are better than? And by living a “Christian” life of being sanctimonious asswipes God will considered them more saved than others and they will get their pearly rewards when they die.

Well, that, too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:17:17am

re: #113 Sionainn

Weren’t the bakery couple fined because they doxed the couple trying to buy a wedding cake?

No, the Oregon bakers weren’t fined for publishing the complainant’s home address, or for otherwise publicizing the complaint against them

It’s true that the agency sought to hold the bakery owners liable for publicizing the complaint against them. But the Commissioner expressly rejected this theory of liability

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No Country For Old Haters  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:17:46am

re: #123 makeitstop

Clout. Didn’t CCJ once tout them as proof of how much of an all-powerful journalist he was?

It might be a wingnut fake business. If you google Clout Polling, it returns a lot of WND.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:17:46am

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

Or we can go straight to the horse’s mouth:

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makeitstop  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:20:11am

re: #127 No Country For Old Haters

It might be a wingnut fake business. If you google Clout Polling, it returns a lot of WND.

I remember Chuckles bragging about a ‘Clout score’ or some such. Seemed iffy when he mentioned it.

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WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:20:25am

re: #117 ObserverArt

Is it that, our is it the fact that some of these people just like being “Christian” judgmental assholes that love to have groups of people they can feel they are better than? And by living a “Christian” life of being sanctimonious asswipes God will considered them more saved than others and they will get their pearly rewards when they die.

Speaking of sanctimonious assholes.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:20:32am

I’m out for the night. See you later, all!

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:22:29am

re: #117 ObserverArt

Is it that, our is it the fact that some of these people just like being “Christian” judgmental assholes that love to have groups of people they can feel they are better than? And by living a “Christian” life of being sanctimonious asswipes God will considered them more saved than others and they will get their pearly rewards when they die.

These people are probably from the sect that thinks that once you’re saved, nothing can take that away, so that makes it easier for them to act like assholes for the rest of their lives. Say what you want about Catholicism, but their salvation through works is a more socially sound principle.

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WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:24:23am

re: #129 makeitstop

I remember Chuckles bragging about a ‘Clout score’ or some such. Seemed iffy when he mentioned it.

Might have meant Klout (which used to be the It thing but has gone down the hole of new tech obscurity).

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:27:17am

re: #133 WhatEVs

Might have meant Klout (which used to be the It thing but has gone down the hole of new tech obscurity).

I never see Klout or 4Square anymore but they used to be freaking everywhere.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:30:07am

re: #134 The Vicious Babushka

I never see Klout or 4Square anymore but they used to be freaking everywhere.

Let me altavista those names. /

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:34:06am

re: #132 Nyet

These people are probably from the sect that thinks that once you’re saved, nothing can take that away, so that makes it easier for them to act like assholes for the rest of their lives. Say what you want about Catholicism, but their salvation through works is a more socially sound principle.

God knows what is deep within our souls, we humans have to orient our view of each other based on our actions.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:38:24am

re: #135 Nyet

Let me altavista those names. /

You win.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:41:27am

I saw this and then yesterday’s Rand Paul’s twitter begging came to mind.
And then pictured something similar to this image

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:42:32am

Texas got hammered by severe storms this week, and federal disaster aid will be forthcoming. But you know the hypocrisy rings every time this happens - because the GOPers who represent Texas will be unconcerned that they demand federal assistance rather than bootstrapping themselves or their citizens to fend for themselves, while they demanded offsets for Sandy aid (which they delayed for 6 months while arguing against funding properly).

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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:45:25am

re: #122 No Country For Old Haters

They like being “Conservative” judgemental assholes.
I’ve met plenty of sane Christians, other than the belief in the supernatural, but every single Conservative I meet turns out to be an insane right-wing authoritarian. Even the non-religious ones.

That’s why I used quotes around Christians, because I don’t think they are. And you are right about them being conservatives, which is another bastardization of a term.

I used to know a lot of cool conservatives/Republicans. Don’t know too many that identify that way now. Many of them grew so hateful we are no longer friends…and not by my doing, but my political stances. It shows how judgmental they can become because in so many ways we are still the same people we were.

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WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:46:40am

Oh brother.

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Sionainn  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:47:14am

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

No, the Oregon bakers weren’t fined for publishing the complainant’s home address, or for otherwise publicizing the complaint against them

What’s weird is I just read the order. On the one hand, the Commissioner denied that the couple were receiving monetary awards for damages due to the publicity, but at the same time, awards them the damages based on ORS 659A.409, which is exactly what the Commissioner was denying. I’m so confused.

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No Country For Old Haters  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:47:16am

re: #139 lawhawk

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:48:31am
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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:50:37am

re: #142 Sionainn

What’s weird is I just read the order. On the one hand, the Commissioner denied that the couple were receiving monetary awards for damages due to the publicity, but at the same time, awards them the damages based on ORS 659A.409, which is exactly what the Commissioner was denying. I’m so confused.

?

§ 659A.409¹
Notice that discrimination will be made in place of public accommodation prohibited
• age exceptions
Except as provided by laws governing the consumption of alcoholic beverages by minors and the frequenting by minors of places of public accommodation where alcoholic beverages are served, and except for special rates or services offered to persons 50 years of age or older, it is an unlawful practice for any person acting on behalf of any place of public accommodation as defined in ORS 659A.400 (Place of public accommodation defined) to publish, circulate, issue or display, or cause to be published, circulated, issued or displayed, any communication, notice, advertisement or sign of any kind to the effect that any of the accommodations, advantages, facilities, services or privileges of the place of public accommodation will be refused, withheld from or denied to, or that any discrimination will be made against, any person on account of race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, national origin, marital status or age if the individual is 18 years of age or older. [Formerly 659.037; 2003 c.521 §3; 2005 c.131 §2; 2007 c.100 §7]

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:53:04am

Ben Shapiro is gay sexing Milo Yeahimadumbass on Twitter again.

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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:53:14am

re: #132 Nyet

These people are probably from the sect that thinks that once you’re saved, nothing can take that away, so that makes it easier for them to act like assholes for the rest of their lives. Say what you want about Catholicism, but their salvation through works is a more socially sound principle.

And even though I wouldn’t consider my self a practicing Catholic, being raised and schooled through high school in the Catholic Church taught me that works and being generally good to all people and the like sticks with you and is the proper way to live. I know nothing I was taught lines up to this new fundamentalism.

As you know, Catholics are baptized at birth, but I don’t remember any of the bishops, priests, and nuns ever saying that gave us a free bill to be an asshole to others. In fact we were always warned about sin and if you were bad nothing was going to “save” you.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:54:19am

re: #147 ObserverArt

Yep. Theology matters.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:54:52am

re: #146 The Vicious Babushka

Ben Shapiro is gay sexing Milo Yeahimadumbass on Twitter again.

As long as it keeps them off the streets…

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2015 • 7:55:05am
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Sionainn  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:00:29am

re: #145 Nyet

?

§ 659A.409¹
Notice that discrimination will be made in place of public accommodation prohibited
• age exceptions
Except as provided by laws governing the consumption of alcoholic beverages by minors and the frequenting by minors of places of public accommodation where alcoholic beverages are served, and except for special rates or services offered to persons 50 years of age or older, it is an unlawful practice for any person acting on behalf of any place of public accommodation as defined in ORS 659A.400 (Place of public accommodation defined) to publish, circulate, issue or display, or cause to be published, circulated, issued or displayed, any communication, notice, advertisement or sign of any kind to the effect that any of the accommodations, advantages, facilities, services or privileges of the place of public accommodation will be refused, withheld from or denied to, or that any discrimination will be made against, any person on account of race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, national origin, marital status or age if the individual is 18 years of age or older. [Formerly 659.037; 2003 c.521 §3; 2005 c.131 §2; 2007 c.100 §7]

Yes, they let people know that they would continue to not bake cakes for gay weddings, thereby violating ORS 659A.409.

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Sionainn  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:02:46am

I think I need some sugar and caffeine. BBL.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:14:00am

Watching briefing on affluenza boys capture
US Marshals working extradition now
Local charges now being filed against Mom, Hindrance to Apprehension
Prosecutors looking at transferring AB’s probation from juvenile system to adult
images show both AB and mom dyed their hair

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:15:43am

re: #151 Sionainn

Yes, they let people know that they would continue to not bake cakes for gay weddings, thereby violating ORS 659A.409.

And therefore they were ordered to pay damages. Not because they published the complaints with addresses and not because of the ensuing publicity for the couple.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:15:46am
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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:17:03am

re: #153 FormerDirtDart

Watching briefing on affluenza boys capture
US Marshals working extradition now
Local charges now being field against Mom, Hindrance to Apprehension
Prosecutors looking at transferring AB’s probation from juvenile system to adult
images show both AB and mom dyed their hair

I wish people would stop calling him affluenza boy. He killed four people while DUI. The judge bought into his sob story. This shows that the judge bought into his defense team’s BS; he knows that he was doing wrong. That’s why he fled the country.

Prosecutors asked for 20 years. He got probation.

Violating probation, and having to serve significant time in prison? Priceless, but it’s still justice delayed since he should never have been out in the first place.

And now there should be significant charges against the mom too. They can have adjoining cells. /

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:17:04am

re: #155 Charles Johnson

After the Jones interview all of this is kinda small potatoes.

Alex Jones & Donald Trump Bombshell Full Interview

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:21:54am

re: #156 lawhawk

I wish people would stop calling him affluenza boy. He killed four people while DUI. The judge bought into his sob story. This shows that the judge bought into his defense team’s BS; he knows that he was doing wrong. That’s why he fled the country.

Prosecutors asked for 20 years. He got probation.

Violating probation, and having to serve significant time in prison? Priceless, but it’s still justice delayed since he should never have been out in the first place.

And now there should be significant charges against the mom too. They can have adjoining cells. /

OK, Murderous Punk, hows that?
Interesting comment from I think the DA on why looking to transfer his probation to adult system:
Since he was punished under juvenile system, if he was incarcerated under those rules now, he would have to be released Apr 11, 2016, 3 and 1/2 months from now, since he will turn 19 then.

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Tigger2  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:23:54am

re: #157 Nyet

After the Jones interview all of this is kinda small potatoes.

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Video

The meeting of the non-minds. The two perfect people to head the Know Nothing Party formerly known as the GOP.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:24:49am

re: #156 lawhawk

I wish people would stop calling him affluenza boy. He killed four people while DUI. The judge bought into his sob story. This shows that the judge bought into his defense team’s BS; he knows that he was doing wrong. That’s why he fled the country.
…

And now there should be significant charges against the mom too. They can have adjoining cells links on the chain gang. /

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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:26:51am

re: #157 Nyet

After the Jones interview all of this is kinda small potatoes.

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Video

Do you realize 20 million people were at Woodstock in 19 and 69?! /

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Great White Snark  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:30:47am

re: #156 lawhawk

I wish people would stop calling him affluenza boy. He killed four people while DUI. The judge bought into his sob story. This shows that the judge bought into his defense team’s BS; he knows that he was doing wrong. That’s why he fled the country.

Prosecutors asked for 20 years. He got probation.

Violating probation, and having to serve significant time in prison? Priceless, but it’s still justice delayed since he should never have been out in the first place.

And now there should be significant charges against the mom too. They can have adjoining cells. /

Well said, but I might suggest his nickname serves a purpose. Like the “Twinkies defense”. A silly name to be sure but memorable. Memorable as in don’t let that happen again. Just a little popular culture cautionary note to our judicial branch maybe. And yeah Mom blew right through any legal forbearance one might give a mom. Jail time.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:37:59am

How various “meetings” and “demonstrations” are organized in Russia:

you go to a special site, post an ad with specifications (e.g.: Slavic appearance, not looking like an alcoholic, specific age, specific height…) and the price. Voila!

massovki.ru
massovki.ru

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WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:38:23am
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:38:40am

OBAMA IS A WEAK PREZIDENT

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Teukka  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:39:11am

re: #163 Nyet

How various “meetings” and “demonstrations” are organized in Russia:

you go to a special site, post an ad with specifications (e.g.: Slavic appearance, not looking like an alcoholic, specific age, specific height…) and the price. Voila!

massovki.ru
massovki.ru

How a … convenient … way to organize neat and tidy protests…

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:40:12am

re: #165 FormerDirtDart

Well, considering that Obama is a Time Lord with a TARDIS, yeah, it is his fault. After all, GOPers blame him for everything from Katrina to the economic meltdown in 2007. /

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:40:37am

re: #165 FormerDirtDart

OBAMA IS A WEAK PREZIDENT

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Gerald Ford’s watch…

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:44:49am

re: #166 Teukka

How a … convenient … way to organize neat and tidy protests…

That’s for the smaller stuff tho. If you need a 100K strong mob crowd, you’ll have to use the “administrative resource” (all the civil employees, such as doctors or teachers or workers etc. are, ahem, “suggested” to attend).

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Teukka  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:46:01am

re: #169 Nyet

That’s for the smaller stuff tho. If you need a 100K strong mob crowd, you’ll have to use the “administrative resource” (all the civil employees, such as doctors or teachers or workers etc. are, ahem, “suggested” to attend).

The word you’re looking for is “voluntold” :P

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:47:44am

re: #170 Teukka

The word you’re looking for is “voluntold” :P

The words are “v dobrovol’no-prinuditel’nom poryadke” (roughly: in a voluntary-forced way).

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WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:50:41am

Heh.

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Teukka  Dec 29, 2015 • 8:51:52am

re: #171 Nyet

The words are “v dobrovol’no-prinuditel’nom poryadke” (roughly: in a voluntary-forced way).

Yeah, “voluntold” is the equivalent in english, combination of volunteer and told as in “told to volunteer”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:00:32am

Crazy Timecube Twitter Lady put me on her mailing list==>

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:01:36am

In the UK:

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:02:40am

re: #174 The Vicious Babushka

Preachy porn!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:02:45am
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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:03:52am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

BNP et al. are just frightened of scaaaary Syrians!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:05:33am
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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:06:34am

Looked up Britain First. They seem nice./

ISLAM

- Introduce a comprehensive ban on the religion of “Islam” within the United Kingdom. This ban will include the prohibition of halal slaughter, sharia courts, religious publications (such as the Koran, Hadiths), the operation of mosques, madrasas and “cultural centres” and the public preaching and / or teaching of Islamic scriptures and doctrines.
- Introduce a prohibition on the use of Islamic face coverings in public, such as the Burka.

Take a note: these very people who want to prohibit a whole religion and its publications also want this:

- Implement an American style “Bill of Rights” guaranteeing freedom of speech, assembly and expression. No exceptions;

Not the smart ones, eh.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:07:58am

re: #180 Nyet

Wait, there’s more:

- Introduce a total ban on the word “racism” in the media. The word “racism” has for too long been a weapon to undermine debate and to suppress discussion on important matters of nationhood, immigration and political correctness.

Freedom of speech my ass.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:09:28am
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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:09:34am

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

In the UK:

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They’re building a fort so they can send out marauding columns to burn liquor stores and spread Shahara-Zod law!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:10:06am

re: #180 Nyet

Britain First is a lot like UKIP except they hate Muslims even more.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:10:50am

re: #180 Nyet

Looked up Britain First. They seem nice./

Take a note: these very people who want to prohibit a whole religion and its publications also want this:

Not the smart ones, eh.

Their “logic” is that Islam is firstly an ideology hostile to Western freedom because SHARIA!!1 and only secondarily a religion. Naturally, its a big pot of DERP as British (and American) law recognized Islam as a religion long any Anglosphere nation had any notable number of Muslims.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:11:06am

re: #181 Nyet

And on a parallel page:

Britain First condemns racism wholeheartedly.

Wait, how can you write this if you want to ban the word?

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:12:13am

re: #185 Dark_Falcon

Their logic doesn’t work because they wrote themselves: no exceptions to the freedom of speech.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:15:32am
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Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:18:16am

re: #187 Nyet

Their logic doesn’t work because they wrote themselves: no exceptions to the freedom of speech.

True, but then their proposals are less a political platform and more a justification for their targeting of Muslims and “Social Justice Warriors”.

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freetoken  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:23:03am

You know you don’t want to miss it, so here are the youtube livestreams:

Live Stream: Donald Trump Holds Rally in Council Bluffs, IA | 12-29-15

Watch Live: Donald Trump Holds Rally in Council Bluffs, IA (12-29-15)

Note that the countdown clocks between the two are off by an hour.

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Sionainn  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:26:38am

re: #154 Nyet

And therefore they were ordered to pay damages. Not because they published the complaints with addresses and not because of the ensuing publicity for the couple.

I get that, but the order also talks extensively about the emotional distress caused by the bakery due to the publicity. It’s why one woman received more money than the other one because she suffered more emotional distress.

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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:29:41am

re: #190 freetoken

You know you don’t want to miss it, so here are the youtube livestreams:

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Note that the countdown clocks between the two are off by an hour.

Can you let us know if this is just more of the same, or is it something newly outrageous? I want to be thrifty with my time, and at the same time protect my mind from another large heaping of Trump Reality.

Edit…I see it hasn’t started yet. So, I think I’ll let that cook a bit and hear about it later. To early for Trump.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:32:23am
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Lidane  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:35:43am

So recently a bunch of MRA douchecanoes boycotted Star Wars (DoNotLink URL) because SJW AGENDA ZOMG!. Let’s see how that turned out:

Spoilers may or may not exist in the comments. I didn’t check.

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Sionainn  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:39:16am

re: #157 Nyet

I had to give up watching the Jones’ interview after about 12 minutes. Whole lot of derp in that video.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:39:25am

re: #194 Lidane

So recently a bunch of MRA douchecanoes boycotted Star Wars (DoNotLink URL) because SJW AGENDA ZOMG!. Let’s see how that turned out:

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Click to Reveal

So the guys in uniform in front of the shop are First Order, right? Them being stormtroopers and all.

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Kent Dorfman  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:42:01am

It’s like ten pounds of potatoes in a five pound sack.

A Paoli bridge collapsed after a tractor-trailer drove onto it, and the truck driver involved in the crash is now facing criminal charges. The historic bridge, which is located in southern Indiana, was completely destroyed during the incident. A math error appears to have been a contributing factor in the driver’s decision to cross the landmark Lick Creek bridge.

The downtown Lick Creek bridge will be closed for several weeks and possibly months before any efforts to rebuild the local landmark can begin. Lambright told law enforcement investigators that she did see the weight limit and “no semis” sign but also said that she did not know “how many pounds six tons was.” The tractor-trailer she was driving reportedly weighed close to 30 tons at the time of the Indiana bridge collapse.

got a little list

I think the driver would have made it with enough speed…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:45:12am
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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:46:05am

re: #195 Sionainn

I didn’t watch at all. :D

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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:49:11am

re: #195 Sionainn

I had to give up watching the Jones’ interview after about 12 minutes. Whole lot of derp in that video.

Me too. After I heard Trump say again he was vindicated by his allegations there were people celebrating all over New Jersey…and now expanded to New York and points around the world and now including Turks yelling Allah Akbar at a tennis match when the French Terror attacks were going on I had enough. Why waste the time.

And that is why I said 20 million people also saw Woodstock. Just ask them.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:49:50am
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freetoken  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:50:05am

Trump’s daughter is getting a lot of attention. I suspect she will be more successful in influencing women and young people than Trump detractors will at first believe.

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Mattand  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:52:30am

re: #180 Nyet

A political party that cherry picks the Bill of Rights and wants to use the government to persecute a specific religion?

coughREPUBLICANScough

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:52:59am

re: #202 freetoken

No doubt, but she hasn’t done anything either. She’s inherited her wealth and works in the family business. And if she’s working on her dad’s campaign, then she’s also responsible in part for the batcrap insanities coming from his campaign on a daily basis.

She’d have to work hard to prove folks wrong, though I get the feeling that she’d go the route of the French National Front’s LePen family.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:53:13am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:53:47am

re: #194 Lidane

So recently a bunch of MRA douchecanoes boycotted Star Wars (DoNotLink URL) because SJW AGENDA ZOMG!. Let’s see how that turned out:

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Spoilers may or may not exist in the comments. I didn’t check.

$4.2 million? Heh….Episode VII has already grossed over $1 billion worldwide. I’m sure Disney’s executives are crying into their scotch in the boardroom.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:54:22am

re: #202 freetoken

Trump’s daughter is getting a lot of attention. I suspect she will be more successful in influencing women and young people than Trump detractors will at first believe.

By ‘daughter’ you mean his elder daughter Ivanka, correct?

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:54:31am

Jerry Lewis is somehow in the news today (saw a SMOTI link touted by Drudge no less), for his comments. Apparently Lewis fits in well with Islamophobes.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:54:40am

re: #205 The Vicious Babushka

The scariest thing is, they really believe their bs.

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Mattand  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:54:42am

re: #202 freetoken

Trump’s daughter is getting a lot of attention. I suspect she will be more successful in influencing women and young people than Trump detractors will at first believe.

Probably. Mainly because many self-described independent American voters are fucking idiots.

“Sure, my dad has vowed to use the White House to harass Americans based on their religion, but isn’t this dress cute?”

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:54:54am

re: #208 lawhawk

Fuck him.

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:55:19am

re: #205 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>HOUR

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It’s hard to keep up with the dumb memes, but they’re doing their worst.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:55:20am

re: #211 Nyet

Fuck him.

He’s a Genius in France

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2015 • 9:56:47am
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Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:00:38am

re: #205 The Vicious Babushka

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WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:01:08am

re: #207 Dark_Falcon

By ‘daughter’ you mean his elder daughter Ivanka, correct?

The one he wants to “date”?

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Great White Snark  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:01:50am

A friend I met at Occupy LA sent me an interesting link on Occupy. Paged.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:05:36am

re: #217 Great White Snark

A friend I met at Occupy LA sent me an interesting link on Occupy. Paged.

That article at Alternet is rambling and incoherent, so it’s no surprise that Occupy fell apart.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:07:02am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Great White Snark  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:07:17am

re: #218 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah that DNA he referred to still shows. Rabble like. Very unfortunate.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:07:30am

re: #217 Great White Snark

A friend I met at Occupy LA sent me an interesting link on Occupy. Paged.

“Occupy failed to rise to the size of the job. The adherents of the perfect killed off the merely great and good.”

Dark_Falcon: Yes, that seems a reasonable point.

Killgore Trout: That’s BS, man! Occupy dissolved because of all the rapey-stabby its members were into!!1

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nines09  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:12:32am

re: #197 Kent Dorfman

It’s like ten pounds of potatoes in a five pound sack.

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I think the driver would have made it with enough speed…

I know you are kidding. But it’s a 13’6” trailer. I think I saw a 13’3” sign somewhere but cannot find it. No. Also, there is not a “No Semi’s” sign there. Just a universal “straight truck” with the slash through it. And the weight restriction. The most revealing is she was

That is NOT a no semi sign. It’s a no truck sign. There is a difference.

not “comfortable” backing up. If you knew how many “drivers” who cannot back up to save their lives were out there, you would shit your pants. Whoever “taught” her did one hell of a job, and I’ll bet it was on her dime.

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:18:31am
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wrenchwench  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:27:25am

re: #222 nines09

If you knew how many “drivers” who cannot back up to save their lives were out there, you would shit your pants. Whoever “taught” her did one hell of a job, and I’ll bet it was on her dime.

When I open the store, I back out a bike with a trailer to park out front. When I nearly hit pedestrians, (every other day or so) I make a joke about, ‘I’m learning how to back a trailer.’ Gets a laugh every time (probably because I haven’t actually hit anyone yet.)

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:30:08am
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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:31:41am

This, of course, was also an official Communist principle.

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:34:50am

re: #208 lawhawk

Jerry Lewis is somehow in the news today (saw a SMOTI link touted by Drudge no less), for his comments. Apparently Lewis fits in well with Islamophobes.

I didn’t even know he was still alive. Sure enough, he is but he will be 90 in March. His son Gary (of Gary Lewis and the Playboys) is 70.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:34:55am

departments.bucknell.edu

Stalin’s Constitution of 1936:

ARTICLE 12. In the U.S.S.R. work is a duty and a matter of honor for every able-bodied citizen, in accordance with the principle: “He who does not work, neither shall he eat.”

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jaunte  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:37:01am

re: #226 Nyet

Schlichter doesn’t seem very bright to have been a colonel.

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b.d.  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:38:17am

re: #229 jaunte

Schlichter doesn’t seem very bright to have been a colonel.

Klink made colonel.

//

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Great White Snark  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:38:27am

re: #221 Dark_Falcon

That kinda exemplifies a creative jam I’m in. Been writing and recording about LA homelessness. But I’m stuck. Appalled at the vacuum left by Occupy that seems to be addressed only at the far margins of public perceptions. Of the MSM attention span.

I keep taking photos and getting video where I can. Mostly I just see it from riding the Red Line and getting to and from work. I think the hospitals are still dumping patients. The courts are as well. It’s a point of contention among businesses that are both taxed extra just for being close to the station, and find business reduced by the ugly environment at 5th and South Hill. The Pershing Sq station.

I think i just resist doing an open ended documentary again. Not feeling the conclusion.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:38:43am

re: #228 Nyet

departments.bucknell.edu

Stalin’s Constitution of 1936:

Not surprisingly, it’s also a theme from Ayn Rand.

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William Lewis  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:39:22am

re: #222 nines09

I was always glad I learned at Schneider’s school in Green Bay. We didn’t get out without knowing much better than this driver apparently did. Heck, I haven’t driven in a number of years but could jump in right now and do better. Sad.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:40:19am

re: #232 The Vicious Babushka

If we consider the Soviet system to have been an instance of state capitalism, it makes sense.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:41:39am

re: #197 Kent Dorfman

It’s like ten pounds of potatoes in a five pound sack.

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I think the driver would have made it with enough speed…

Good grief.
Looking at that bridge I’d be hesitant to drive a loaded pick up on it, let alone a freaking semi.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:41:45am

re: #234 Nyet

If we consider the Soviet system to have been an instance of state capitalism, it makes sense.

Although, really, “From each according to his abilities” does rather imply that you have to work.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:44:29am

re: #226 Nyet

I love how they willfully ignore everything the Bible says about taking care of the poor.

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:45:02am

re: #229 jaunte

Schlichter doesn’t seem very bright to have been a colonel.

I’ve known some pretty dim colonels.

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blueraven  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:45:41am

re: #121 lawhawk

WND (do not linked) used a polling outfit I’ve never heard of to produce the results. No idea what the metrics used, the question methodologies, or anything else that a typical polling outfit would use.

No mention of how many people surveyed (though with that moe, we’re probably talking 700-1000 people). Thing is, the way the poll is reported, it could be that they’re reporting on those minorities who are GOP, which is a minority of all minorities. We’re talking such a small segment, that it’s hard to take anything away other than a catchy headline by a nutbar outfit that probably ran a push poll to get these results.

So I never heard of this polling firm. Found their website and clicked the Team button. The team consists of PJ and Fritz Wenzel. That name did ring a bell. Here’s the pollster ratings at 538 for Wenzel Strategies. Very low “D” rating and a definite R bias.

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jaunte  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:46:11am

re: #237 Belafon

Commandments À La Carte

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:46:43am

re: #237 Belafon

I love how they willfully ignore everything the Bible says about taking care of the poor.

They probably think “the least of these” refers to whoever among them owns the fewest guns…

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:48:23am

re: #235 Not a Sparkly Vampire

We’ve got a bridge of similar design and age, and drive over it regularly. If it’s maintained in good shape, it’s safe. They put the weight/size restrictions on the bridge for good reason.

The driver owes them a new bridge. /half

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:49:12am

re: #236 Blind Frog Belly White

Although, really, “From each according to his abilities” does rather imply that you have to work.

The definition of “work” was rather, ahm, strained.

In 1963, Brodsky’s poetry was denounced by a Leningrad newspaper as “pornographic and anti-Soviet”. His papers were confiscated, he was interrogated, twice put in a mental institution[13] and then arrested. He was charged with social parasitism[14] by the Soviet authorities in a trial in 1964, finding that his series of odd jobs and role as a poet were not a sufficient contribution to society.[7] [15] They called him “a pseudo-poet in velveteen trousers” who failed to fulfill his “constitutional duty to work honestly for the good of the motherland”.[13] The trial judge asked “Who has recognized you as a poet? Who has enrolled you in the ranks of poets?” — “No one,” Brodsky replied, “Who enrolled me in the ranks of the human race?”[9][16] Brodsky was not yet 24.

For his “parasitism” Brodsky was sentenced to five years hard labor and served 18 months on a farm in the village of Norenskaya, in the Archangelsk region, 350 miles from Leningrad.

en.wikipedia.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:50:34am

re: #197 Kent Dorfman

It’s like ten pounds of potatoes in a five pound sack.

Lambright told law enforcement investigators that she did see the weight limit and “no semis” sign but also said that she did not know “how many pounds six tons was.” The tractor-trailer she was driving reportedly weighed close to 30 tons at the time of the Indiana bridge collapse.

Weights and measures, how do they work?

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BeachDem  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:52:16am

Trump’s fans are not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.

“I’ve noticed that some of the Trump fans loved it,” said Tyler Montague, founder and president of PIA. “They’re like, ‘Yeah, this is everything Trump is about, this is dead on.’ We’re like, ‘You’re kidding us, right?’”

rawstory.com

“Make America Great Again”

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:52:38am

re: #226 Nyet

Libs would rather we forget about the Bible. Those that don’t work don’t eat.Atheists will scream! Let ‘em. GOD will sort.
— ron8072

He sounds nice….

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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:53:13am

re: #239 blueraven

So I never heard of this polling firm. Found their website and clicked the Team button. The team consists of PJ and Fritz Wenzel. That name did ring a bell. Here’s the pollster ratings at 538 for Wenzel Strategies. Very low “D” rating and a definite R bias.

I did not know we had so many different polling organizations. Sheesh. I wonder how close you can come to the real results if you added all of them up and averaged them?

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Tigger2  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:54:12am

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

[Embedded content]

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:56:32am

re: #245 BeachDem

I bet we could get Trump to retweet that…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:57:29am

re: #231 Great White Snark

That kinda exemplifies a creative jam I’m in. Been writing and recording about LA homelessness. But I’m stuck. Appalled at the vacuum left by Occupy that seems to be addressed only at the far margins of public perceptions. Of the MSM attention span.

I keep taking photos and getting video where I can. Mostly I just see it from riding the Red Line and getting to and from work. I think the hospitals are still dumping patients. The courts are as well. It’s a point of contention among businesses that are both taxed extra just for being close to the station, and find business reduced by the ugly environment at 5th and South Hill. The Pershing Sq station.

I think i just resist doing an open ended documentary again. Not feeling the conclusion.

WRT hospitals dumping, our nextdoor neighbor, now deceased, suffered from schizophrenia, and frequently went off her meds and had ‘episodes’. One time there was a knocking at our front door. My wife opened it to find our neighbor, clad only in panties, standing there saying she’d locked herself out of her house. Mrs. FBW ushered her into the bathroom, where she tried to drink the shampoo, but without taking the top off the bottle. Mrs. FBW said, “Let me call you a cab”, dialed 911, and the cops, or maybe an ambulance came and whisked her off to the mental ward.

She was released the next day, as her meds had kicked in and she was no longer a threat to herself or others. They could no longer legally hold her. She lived in the house her parents had left to her when they died, so she always had a place to go back to.

But what about those who don’t have a place to go back to, and are not - at that moment - a threat to themselves or others? Hospitals CAN’T hold them. I suspect that’s a lot of what ‘dumping people’ amounts to - can’t hold them anymore legally.

It’s heartbreaking. We ignore mental health, and the mentally ill. “Mainstreaming” began with a combination of the best motives and the worst - that people who might be able to have something like a normal life, combined with “They’re not MY family! Why do I have to pay for them?”

My Dad and my brothers worked in State Mental Hospitals. (In fact my Dad was part of CPS camp #69, the group that exposed the Cleveland State Hospital as the snake pit it was, back during WWII.) So I have a good idea how bat those institutions were, and how many people who might have been able to live in the larger world were kept there. But when we turned people out on the streets and didn’t follow up with the kind of help they needed, we might as well have just driven them out a lonely country road and dropped them off, as only horrible people do with pets they don’t want to take care of.

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Targetpractice  Dec 29, 2015 • 10:58:47am

re: #223 lawhawk

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It continues to make me shake my head, hearing wingnuts one minute bitch up a storm that taking a toy gun to school can get you suspended and how wrong it is because kids can’t play with toys anymore without being treated like criminals…and the next argue that a cop was totally right to gun down a kid because he couldn’t tell that the “gun” the kid had was a toy at first sight.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:01:23am

re: #251 Targetpractice

Wingnut logic: The kids at school shouldn’t have toy guns but them teachers oughta be armed to the teeth!!

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:02:02am

re: #248 Tigger2

And let’s just ignore that it is the President’s constitutional obligation to give a SOTU message to Congress. It’s not like he just gives speeches to Congress on a whim.

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gocart mozart  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:02:42am

re: #92 The Vicious Babushka

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:04:30am

re: #251 Targetpractice

It continues to make me shake my head, hearing wingnuts one minute bitch up a storm that taking a toy gun to school can get you suspended and how wrong it is because kids can’t play with toys anymore without being treated like criminals…and the next argue that a cop was totally right to gun down a kid because he couldn’t tell that the “gun” the kid had was a toy at first sight.

It’s entirely about race, but they may not even recognize that. When they talk about ‘zero tolerance’ and Open Carry and how when they were young they brought their .22 to school because they were going after rabbits later, they’re always imagining a WHITE kind, Opie-like, who is OBVIOUSLY not dangerous. Why can’t Opie take his .22 and go down to that empty field to plink at cans, or hunt rabbits? Why, it’s UnAmerican!

OTOH, when they look at the Tamir Rice case, he’s OBVIOUSLY threatening because he’s black. They won’t admit, even to themselves probably, that this is the difference. But it is.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:05:23am

re: #253 lawhawk

And let’s just ignore that it is the President’s constitutional obligation to give a SOTU message to Congress. It’s not like he just gives speeches to Congress on a whim.

Do you mean some TCOT Troubled Heart is concerned about POTUS State of the Union speech because San Bernadino?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:06:39am

re: #256 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Do you mean some TCOT Troubled Heart is concerned about POTUS State of the Union speech because San Bernadino?

According to the profile bio it’s a “satire” account, but that’s basically just a cover for stupid racist derp.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:06:48am

About 2 months ago I was admiring the neighbor’s brand new, heavy-duty, 2 stage snowblower they had parked in their garage. So shiny and chrome. Well, he came over to borrow a shovel, having misplaced the key for it. Doh!

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ausador  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:08:01am

Meanwhile as the rightwing bemoan our “weak president” and his “ineffectual military response” to ISIS…

The military must feel pretty unappreciated right about now too.

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b_sharp  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:08:49am

re: #258 Amory Blaine

About 2 months ago I was admiring the neighbor’s brand new heavy-duty 2 stage snowblower they had parked in their garage. So shiny and chrome. Well, he came over to borrow a shovel, having misplaced the key for it. Doh!

The key is usually just a plastic flat bar. He should be able to just stick a sanded down Popsicle stick in it.

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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:09:16am

re: #245 BeachDem

Trump’s fans are not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.

“I’ve noticed that some of the Trump fans loved it,” said Tyler Montague, founder and president of PIA. “They’re like, ‘Yeah, this is everything Trump is about, this is dead on.’ We’re like, ‘You’re kidding us, right?’”

rawstory.com

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Video

Oh my! Looks like not only has Trump released the haters, he has made it okay for complete morons that know nothing about anything to proudly support their man TRUMP®.

You know, this much ass kissing by Trump makes me want to hide some little video cameras all over Trump’s plane, campaign vehicles and in the back rooms of the auditoriums, halls and arenas he gives his addresses. I have a feeling he says some not too kind things about some of his supporters…the little people he would never associate with.

By the way, I was going to add hotel rooms to my list of camera locations, but after thinking about it, I can’t see him lowering himself to stay in any old hotel/motel out on the road. They wouldn’t meet his germophobia concerns and have enough tacky faux gold furnishings. I bet he high tails it out of those places as fast as he can and gets back to his jet and then New York as quickly as he can. He has to be fresh in the morning for all his phone calls to the media.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:14:02am
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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:14:33am

re: #251 Targetpractice

It continues to make me shake my head, hearing wingnuts one minute bitch up a storm that taking a toy gun to school can get you suspended and how wrong it is because kids can’t play with toys anymore without being treated like criminals…and the next argue that a cop was totally right to gun down a kid because he couldn’t tell that the “gun” the kid had was a toy at first sight.

re: #252 Eclectic Cyborg

Wingnut logic: The kids at school shouldn’t have toy guns but them teachers oughta be armed to the teeth!!

I gave up trying to analyze the wingnut mind. You simply cannot make sense of nonsense. But you can damage your own brain in trying to understand if there is any logic involved. So I am learning to keep my thoughts very simple when it comes to anything wingnutty.

Fuck ‘em!

: )

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gocart mozart  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:17:09am

re: #245 BeachDem

That’s too subtle for a Trump voter to get.

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jaunte  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:17:21am

re: #262 Charles Johnson

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:20:12am

re: #254 gocart mozart

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Fischer FAILs again. It would be legal for a black printer or any printer for cares about liberty for that matter to refuse to print KKK literature because of the open threat the group poses to liberty and the Constitution. Given the Klan’s racism and history of attacks on black people, a black person who refused them service would be on especially firm ground.

As we’ve gone over here, a lesbian couple can require a Christian baker to bake them a cake with two bride figures saying “Miranda and Sally: Together Forever!” but cannot demand he bake a cake with two pairs of breasts and the line “Miranda and Sally: Four boobs are better than two!”, as that would force him to make something directly offensive to his religion.

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Tigger2  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:20:17am

re: #265 jaunte

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I thought Iowa always picked the craziest religious freak they could find running.

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jaunte  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:21:10am

re: #267 Tigger2

Ted is bringing his dad along in a two-nuts-for-one deal.

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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:23:35am

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

as that would force him to make something directly offensive to his religion.

The first example you cite is directly offensive to the religion of millions in the US.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:23:38am

Here we go again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:24:56am

re: #270 Charles Johnson

Here we go again.

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It’s your destiny, Charles.

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jaunte  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:25:02am

re: #270 Charles Johnson

Chemtrails again?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:25:04am
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:26:22am

re: #270 Charles Johnson

Here we go again.

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That one needs a GFY response.

“That which is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:26:34am

re: #269 Nyet

The first example you cite is directly offensive to the religion of millions in the US.

But it’s close enough to a cake made for heterosexual couples that the baker can be justly told “Get on with it and bake the damn cake!” Stuff which is overtly and graphically sexual is a different case.

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gocart mozart  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:26:37am

I just started following Michael Caine.

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gocart mozart  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:30:32am
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Nyet  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:31:09am

re: #275 Dark_Falcon

But it’s close enough to a cake made for heterosexual couples that the baker can be justly told “Get on with it and bake the damn cake!” Stuff which is overtly and graphically sexual is a different case.

The last sentence is true and has nothing to do with religion. If we were to judge merely by religion, anything - literally anything - can be offensive, because religion is arbitrary.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:31:44am
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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:32:22am

Ha. Looking at that 538 list of polling organizations I see The Columbus Dispatch there. If I read the list correctly, they give the Dispatch a 1.1 point bias to Democrats.

If you know anything about The Columbus Dispatch, you would think that is highly unlikely. They are so Republican, I can’t remember the last time they actually endorsed a Democrat for a high office like President, Senator or Governor.

I don’t want to be biased myself, so I am hoping BeachDem can back me up…or anyone else that knows The Columbus Dispatch.

Which by the way, could be mocked by Trump for being tiny and nearly not worth the tiny amount of paper. I have a friend (our now-retired bass player) that not only worked there, but got his job because his father was a child-hood friend on one Harry Preston Wolf one of the big family that owned it and a large Columbus media empire. He has lost his job and the paper has been sold. I doubt it last many more years.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:32:26am

re: #277 gocart mozart

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Reasonably certain he wouldn’t misspell his own first name.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:34:49am

re: #275 Dark_Falcon

But it’s close enough to a cake made for heterosexual couples that the baker can be justly told “Get on with it and bake the damn cake!” Stuff which is overtly and graphically sexual is a different case.

No, that’s not it.

It’s not about offense to religion, it’s about not discriminating in services/goods they sell. If they sell titty cakes, they have to sell titty cakes to everyone. If they don’t sell titty cakes, you can’t require them to, religion notwithstanding.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:36:53am
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ObserverArt  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:37:52am

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is the kind of material I was addressing yesterday. I was mainly talking about Trump’s own issues that will come back to bite him, but the big mouth probably has all kinds of little things he has said that will also be used against him.

I’d love to see that Clinton database. Knowing how good they are at politics, I bet it is Youuuuuuge!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:38:44am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:38:59am

re: #274 Pawn of the Oppressor

That one needs a GFY response.

“That which is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

My suggestion for Conspiracy Theories is to treat them as if they were actual scientific hypotheses.

First, make the Theorists state their hypothesis, clearly and plainly.

Next, determine what testable predictions those hypotheses make.

Then, test those predictions. If the predictions aren’t true, the hypothesis isn’t either.

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gocart mozart  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:39:00am

re: #281 Blind Frog Belly White

I noticed that too but if it’s not real, kudos on the parody.

and

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:40:10am

re: #287 gocart mozart

I noticed that too but if it’s not real, kudos on the parody.

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The real Michael Caine has a verified twitter account.

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wrenchwench  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:40:11am

As someone who took up jogging in the last 6 months, I don’t have a lot of room to talk.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:41:18am

Hmmm…Twitter photo embedding broken again? Image shows fine on Twitter itself.

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A Cranky One  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:41:58am

re: #282 Blind Frog Belly White

No, that’s not it.

It’s not about offense to religion, it’s about not discriminating in services/goods they sell. If they sell titty cakes, they have to sell titty cakes to everyone. If they don’t sell titty cakes, you can’t require them to, religion notwithstanding.

Why all the fuss about kitty cakes? Shouldn’t they be available to anyone?







What? Titty cakes?

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blueraven  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:42:53am

re: #280 ObserverArt

Ha. Looking at that 538 list of polling organizations I see The Columbus Dispatch there. If I read the list correctly, they give the Dispatch a 1.1 point bias to Democrats.

If you know anything about The Columbus Dispatch, you would think that is highly unlikely. They are so Republican, I can’t remember the last time they actually endorsed a Democrat for a high office like President, Senator or Governor.

I don’t want to be biased myself, so I am hoping BeachDem can back me up…or anyone else that knows The Columbus Dispatch.

Which by the way, could be mocked by Trump for being tiny and nearly not worth the tiny amount of paper. I have a friend (our now-retired bass player) that not only worked there, but got his job because his father was a child-hood friend on one Harry Preston Wolf one of the big family that owned it and a large Columbus media empire. He has lost his job and the paper has been sold. I doubt it last many more years.

Polling organizations do not necessarily follow the political persuasions of the client they serve. Generally speaking media will hire a polling firm independent from the paper. I see their rating is a “C”, so just average at best.

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gocart mozart  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:46:44am
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Dark_Falcon  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:46:54am

re: #282 Blind Frog Belly White

No, that’s not it.

It’s not about offense to religion, it’s about not discriminating in services/goods they sell. If they sell titty cakes, they have to sell titty cakes to everyone. If they don’t sell titty cakes, you can’t require them to, religion notwithstanding.

I was trying to say that, but I was badly affected by narcolepsy and my post’s quality suffered because of it.

Sorry.

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makeitstop  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:47:39am

re: #270 Charles Johnson

Here we go again.

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slow week over there? :)

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:48:01am

re: #293 gocart mozart

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BeachDem  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:48:13am

re: #280 ObserverArt

Ha. Looking at that 538 list of polling organizations I see The Columbus Dispatch there. If I read the list correctly, they give the Dispatch a 1.1 point bias to Democrats.

If you know anything about The Columbus Dispatch, you would think that is highly unlikely. They are so Republican, I can’t remember the last time they actually endorsed a Democrat for a high office like President, Senator or Governor.

I don’t want to be biased myself, so I am hoping BeachDem can back me up…or anyone else that knows The Columbus Dispatch.

Which by the way, could be mocked by Trump for being tiny and nearly not worth the tiny amount of paper. I have a friend (our now-retired bass player) that not only worked there, but got his job because his father was a child-hood friend on one Harry Preston Wolf one of the big family that owned it and a large Columbus media empire. He has lost his job and the paper has been sold. I doubt it last many more years.

Yep, the Dispatch has long been a Republican mouthpiece. But didn’t the recent buyout come from a not-so-Republican group?

I think I’ve mentioned before that my very first job was as a weekend receptionist in the newsroom at the Dispatch, and that the father of one of my college roommates was a sportswriter.

And yep, the Wolfes at one time pretty much controlled media and more in Columbus.
WBNS—Wolf Banks News and Shoes…

I believe I posted this the last time we talked about the Wolfes—still a great read.

columbusmonthly.com

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makeitstop  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:50:22am

re: #281 Blind Frog Belly White

Reasonably certain he wouldn’t misspell his own first name.

I think that’s ‘Mike Alfred’ and not ‘Mikeal Fred.’

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Teukka  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:53:25am

Just a thought which occured to me while scouring the internets… I found this… How many stages can one say are being done by Trump supporters wrt muslims?
http://genocidewatch.org/genocide/tenstagesofgenocide.html

Just checking whether I’m out on my score…

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blueraven  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:54:25am

re: #298 makeitstop

Still, Michael Caine, not Micheal Caine as in the twitter name.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 29, 2015 • 11:59:40am

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

@mtaibbi Why would it be impossible. Obama only won twice bc of skin color
— Trump’s First Member

Hurr hurr

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makeitstop  Dec 29, 2015 • 12:01:11pm

re: #300 blueraven

Still, Michael Caine, not Micheal Caine as in the twitter name.

Details, details. I didn’t look at that :)

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nines09  Dec 29, 2015 • 12:02:28pm

re: #233 William Lewis

Pumpkin and JB actually ruined a lot of decent company jobs. They were always looking to be brokers and have company drivers be turned over to them. “Why worry about compliance and lawsuits? Let us.” was the line. For a slice of the money the driver would be making of course. Part of the reason the industry is desperate right now and will basicly hire anyone is the screwing drivers got for years. If you cheat, you get fired. But you’ll never make schedule unless you cheat. That and the fact that any hick with a badge can yank you over and go through your truck at will at any time and most trucks have black boxes. Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 29, 2015 • 12:10:57pm

re: #289 wrenchwench

Oh, hai—been saving this for you—lots of great design and BIKES!
Artcrank Posters Online | The French Paper Sample Room Blog

French Paper is one of my all time favorite paper companies. I had no idea until the other day, thanks to their blog, that there’s a print shop dedicated to producing & selling posters about about bikes. Here’s a video about them:

ARTCRANK

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CuriousLurker  Dec 29, 2015 • 12:11:42pm

Dammit! OF COURSE he posted a new thread.

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wrenchwench  Dec 29, 2015 • 12:13:54pm

re: #304 CuriousLurker

Oh, hai—been saving this for you—lots of great design and BIKES!
Artcrank Posters Online | The French Paper Sample Room Blog

French Paper is one of my all time favorite paper companies. I had no idea until the other day, thanks to their blog, that there’s a print shop dedicated to producing & selling posters about about bikes. Here’s a video about them:

[Embedded content]

Thanks! I’ve been following their Twitter account for a while, but had not seen that!

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wrenchwench  Dec 29, 2015 • 12:17:15pm

re: #306 wrenchwench

Thanks! I’ve been following their Twitter account for a while, but had not seen that!

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CuriousLurker  Dec 29, 2015 • 12:21:08pm

re: #307 wrenchwench

Thanks, just followed them. Love, love, love the art they print. Funny how sometimes our worlds intersect at the most unexpected junctures.


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