Samantha Bee Has the Best Commentary on Debate 3: The Good, the Bad, the Nasty

Our media are so punch drunk they no longer notice how awful he is
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I’ve been waiting for Samantha Bee to put the third presidential debate through her comedy grinder, in part because so much of the media’s commentary on it was absurdly forgiving of Donald Trump’s ridiculous horribleness. And she does not disappoint.

(Both parts of her segment on the debate are included in the playlist above.)

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205 comments
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:30:28am

Sam is all the things that the new Daily Show ain’t…

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Kragar  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:35:35am
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Franklin  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:36:26am

This is Samantha Bee at her very best.

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darthstar  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:39:38am

Gun nuts for gun nuts. Yeah, they’re afraid of homosexuals, but they don’t mind caressing some earth tone testicles while they shoot their loads.

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MsJ  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:40:51am

Samantha Bee is so freaking good.

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jeffreyw  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:41:37am

Lunch?

Imgur

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KGxvi  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:41:44am

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sam is all the things that the new Daily Show ain’t…

As is John Oliver.

Also, watching the video, the “no puppet, no puppet… you’re the puppet!” line is just fucking amazing. Oh, and I just realized Chris Wallace had to get his attention halfway through the question on accepting the results of the election with a “sir”… it’s like trying to train a dog “sit, sit… donny… sit.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:42:19am

re: #4 darthstar

Gun nuts for gun nuts. Yeah, they’re afraid of homosexuals, but they don’t mind caressing some earth tone testicles while they shoot their loads.

yes, that is what they need to complement their ersatz penis, as they obviously have neither in their trousers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:43:43am

re: #7 KGxvi

Sam is all the things that the new Daily Show ain’t…

As is John Oliver.

They would have done well to just hand the show over to the two of them jointly, it would be awesome.

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Franklin  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:44:17am
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Franklin  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:45:33am

So this happened

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KGxvi  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:46:33am

re: #9 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They would have done well to just hand the show over to the two of them jointly, it would be awesome.

Bee, RiggleJones, and Oliver had all already signed new deals before Stewart announced his retirement.

Edited because I had the wrong person married to Sam Bee

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EmmaAnne  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:48:12am

I adore Samantha Bee, but in fairness she can spend a week on a segment. It’s got to be a lot tougher to be funny and polished four days a week.

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Nyet  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:49:23am

re: #7 KGxvi

Iframe

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Tigger2  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:49:51am

...

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Jenner7  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:50:17am
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freetoken  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:50:33am

I use Google News to get links to many news articles. What is interesting today, and yesterday, is that the “Top Stories” section has few election stories.

Now, I realize that Google tries to be really smart and shape the news feeds to my preferences, but after months of articles about Drumpfskind, and less so Clinton, or this or that election issue, now all of a sudden the stories are other news - e.g. right now the big headline is the VW deal.

A couple of the “Top Stories” on the summary page are about Drumpfskind, but that is fewer than what I am used to.

(I have customized sections for “Elections” and “Donald Trump” so I can click on those for many headlines.)

Same on Facebook, btw. The trending stories on my display are mostly not election related.

Maybe Americans’ interests are now over the election? Have we, as a group, already accepted Clinton as the winner and now we are bored and want something different?

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darthstar  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:50:41am

Hate to nut & run, but I’ve got shit to do. Have a good day everyone.

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dangerman  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:51:15am

re: #6 jeffreyw

Lunch?

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mexi-lasagna

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wrenchwench  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:52:02am

Seeing Hugh Hewitt saying the words, ‘…it’s outside the norms..’ is some kind of audio/visual redundancy.

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dangerman  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:53:02am

re: #13 EmmaAnne

I adore Samantha Bee, but in fairness she can spend a week on a segment. It’s got to be a lot tougher to be funny and polished four days a week.

a crack writing and support staff

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EmmaAnne  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:53:29am

Colorado is looking good!

denverpost.com

Note that the comparison year is 2014 (because we didn’t have all mail-in in 2012) so the absolute numbers comparison isn’t very useful. But checkout the Dems voting rate versus the Repubs!

Colorado Early Voting
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Charles Johnson  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:53:49am
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Franklin  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:54:18am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:56:22am
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jeffreyw  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:57:21am

re: #19 dangerman

That’s just how my plate looked, mine was dog cleaned shortly thereafter.

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wrenchwench  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:58:53am

re: #19 dangerman

mexi-lasagna

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re: #26 jeffreyw

That’s just how my plate looked, mine was dog cleaned shortly thereafter.

I sense a new theme coming….The Clean Plate Club!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 25, 2016 • 11:59:39am

ummm….

Truly honored to receive the first ever presidential endorsement from the Bay of Pigs Veterans Association.

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Kragar  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:01:34pm
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electrotek  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:02:50pm

Does anyone else believe that a Da’esh terrorist attack in Iran is only a matter of time?

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dangerman  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:03:09pm

re: #26 jeffreyw

That’s just how my plate looked, mine was dog cleaned shortly thereafter.

i tried cat cleaning plates. they hate getting wet and soapy. sponges dont have claws

notice how im working my way up to pictures of actual food

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freetoken  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:03:27pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

Working the small crowds… but this one seems not to carry much sway at the polls. Is there a big back-to-the-Bay-of-Pigs movement?

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jeffreyw  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:04:45pm

re: #31 dangerman

i tried cat cleaning plates. they hate getting wet and soapy. sponges dont have claws

notice how im working my way up to pictures of actual food

Cats are too picky to be good cleaners.

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freetoken  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:05:44pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Sad thing is, I’m pretty sure the Drumpfskind supporters on my Facebook really don’t care about the contents of that commercial. Some of them may even be quite fine with discriminating based on skin color. Heck, at least one of his supporters on my Facebook wall is apparently one of those pro-Crusades folk.

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lawhawk  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:06:00pm

re: #32 freetoken

Working the small crowds… but this one seems not to carry much sway at the polls. Is there a big back-to-the-Bay-of-Pigs movement?

It’s an attempt to sway anti-Castro sentiment. Nothing more. For most Americans, this just doesn’t resonate.

Of course, most Americans are intrigued by the ability to quaff Cuban rum and smoke Cuban cigars since they’ve been hyped for decades due to the embargo.

Businesses are looking at the potential expansion opportunities; first and foremost - the tourism industry.

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MsJ  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:06:52pm

And so it begins…this will be on Nightly News tonight…and everywhere else.

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dangerman  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:07:01pm

re: #33 jeffreyw

Cats are too picky to be good cleaners.

we tried duct taping their four feet together first - something for us to grip on and protect from the scratching. but no matter how hard you rub, they dont get the plates clean

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Jay C  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:07:15pm

re: #30 electrotek

Does anyone else believe that a Da’esh terrorist attack in Iran is only a matter of time?

TBH, I’m kind of surprised there haven’t been any by now. Reported attacks, that is: Iran isn’t the most open country for press reporting; so unless an attack was pulled off, say, right in the middle of Tehran in broad daylight with massive damage/casualties, it might be easy to cover up.

But then again, Iran also is a country with quite different notions of how to best maintain “internal security”….

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nines09  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:07:34pm

re: #4 darthstar

Gun nuts for gun nuts. Yeah, they’re afraid of homosexuals, but they don’t mind caressing some earth tone testicles while they shoot their loads.

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Then they know what a set of balls feels like?

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freetoken  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:07:48pm

re: #35 lawhawk

Businesses are looking at the potential expansion opportunities; first and foremost - the tourism industry.

And Drumpfskind would have been one of them, if he wasn’t running for President.

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Belafon  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:09:13pm

re: #36 MsJ

And so it begins…this will be on Nightly News tonight…and everywhere else.

I wonder if they’ll report that this is only in states that refused to set up a marketplace, you know, Republican controlled states?

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electrotek  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:10:03pm

re: #38 Jay C

TBH, I’m kind of surprised there haven’t been any by now. Reported attacks, that is: Iran isn’t the most open country for press reporting; so unless an attack was pulled off, say, right in the middle of Tehran in broad daylight with massive damage/casualties, it might be easy to cover up.

But then again, Iran also is a country with quite different notions of how to best maintain “internal security”….

Was reading this piece on al-Monitor last night about the potential of an attack occurring in Iran sooner or later.

Islamic State in Persia?

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lawhawk  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:10:39pm

re: #36 MsJ

As I’ve been noting, this is a metric without context.

For instance, in most northeastern states, the increases are actually low single digits because the marketplaces there are larger and more stable. The ones where the increases are greatest are where there isn’t competition in the marketplaces, where the states didn’t expand Medicare, and where the GOP has generally opposed Obamacare all along.

Other factors? Insurers putting profits over all else (including on getting out of certain state marketplaces if the feds don’t approve corporate mergers to maximize profits).

Charles Gaba has much much much more on the subject, including the notion of weighted averages, and what this all means and why there are steep increases.

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freetoken  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:10:51pm

Trump Adviser: There’s No anti-Semitic Sentiment Among Trump Supporters

Donald Trump’s adviser David Friedman said Tuesday that there was no anti-Semitic sentiment among the Republican candidate’s supporters, days after a study by the Anti-Defamation League credited them with the lion’s share of anti-Semitic abuse of journalists on Twitter.

[…]

So there.

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electrotek  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:11:23pm

re: #38 Jay C

TBH, I’m kind of surprised there haven’t been any by now. Reported attacks, that is: Iran isn’t the most open country for press reporting; so unless an attack was pulled off, say, right in the middle of Tehran in broad daylight with massive damage/casualties, it might be easy to cover up.

But then again, Iran also is a country with quite different notions of how to best maintain “internal security”….

Plus I can’t imagine a devastating attack in Tehran and the consequences it would have for Iran’s Sunni minority. You know they would cop the most amount of backlash that would make the Western anti-Muslim backlash look like a picnic in the park.

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Belafon  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:12:22pm

re: #44 freetoken

Trump Adviser: There’s No anti-Semitic Sentiment Among Trump Supporters

So there.

No true Trump supporter…

Now the question is: Do you finish that sentence with “is anti-Semitic” or “is not anti-Semitic”?

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EPR-radar  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:13:00pm

re: #36 MsJ

Does everyone in the media have amnesia? Annual health insurance rate increases of 10% or more were routine before Obamacare was enacted.

So any intelligent reporting should compare the real numbers before and after the ACA, on a state by state basis, as opposed to mindless stuff like “double digit rate increases ==> ACA is a disaster”.

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Joe Bacon  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:13:28pm

re: #4 darthstar

Gun nuts for gun nuts. Yeah, they’re afraid of homosexuals, but they don’t mind caressing some earth tone testicles while they shoot their loads.

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A white man open carrying a rifle with this “extension”…who won’t laugh at such a pathetic loser…

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Decatur Deb  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:13:54pm

re: #16 Jenner7

Boom. Colin Powell says he will vote for Hillary Clinton. Says will serve w/ distinction and cites experience and stamina

THAT’S JUST BECAUSE SHE’S BLACK !!1!

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KGxvi  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:14:06pm

re: #30 electrotek

Does anyone else believe that a Da’esh terrorist attack in Iran is only a matter of time?

I don’t think so. They’re too busy trying to gain (and hold) territory in Syria and Iraq. In that regard, they are acting more like a traditional state than a non-state actor. But an attack in Iran would only serve to give Iran a basis to step up its efforts against ISIL in Iraq and Syria. So there’s no strategic advantage to doing so, at least at this time.

Of course, it’s entirely possible that they act in a non-rational way in the midst of a war, we’ve seen that plenty of times in history. Like when Napoleon and Hitler tried to take Moscow during the winter; or Imperial Japan deciding to bomb Pearl Harbor; or a few other examples of states trying to fight two front wars.

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MsJ  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:14:18pm

re: #41 Belafon

I wonder if they’ll report that this is only in states that refused to set up a marketplace, you know, Republican controlled states?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

{breathe}

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!

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lawhawk  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:15:09pm

re: #29 Kragar

This is my rifle this is my gun.

This one’s for firing. This one is for fun.

Only a bunch of self-conscious pricks would think that this is even necessary or needed as a thing. Which is precisely why it is a thing.

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gocart mozart  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:17:43pm
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lawhawk  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:18:40pm

re: #47 EPR-radar

Does everyone in the media have amnesia? Annual health insurance rate increases of 10% or more were routine before Obamacare was enacted.

So any intelligent reporting should compare the real numbers before and after the ACA, on a state by state basis, as opposed to mindless stuff like “double digit rate increases ==> ACA is a disaster”.

Annual health increases have been occurring long before the ACA was enacted. The reason we know what rates are being hiked in the marketplaces is because this is public information. We don’t get that level of knowledge of the employer-insurance policies because that’s not generated in the same way. So, it’s harder to find out what employer policies are doing.

I know what my company has done - and it’s a double digit hike. They’ve got some excuses on why the rates are higher: several years of below average (compared to comparable sized companies) increases, plus higher than expected usage. They’re also continuing to shift burdens.

This is a trend that continues, and the insurance companies are doing whatever they think they can get away with it because ultimately they have to answer to shareholders.

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electrotek  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:19:09pm

re: #50 KGxvi

I don’t think so. They’re too busy trying to gain (and hold) territory in Syria and Iraq. In that regard, they are acting more like a traditional state than a non-state actor. But an attack in Iran would only serve to give Iran a basis to step up its efforts against ISIL in Iraq and Syria. So there’s no strategic advantage to doing so, at least at this time.

Of course, it’s entirely possible that they act in a non-rational way in the midst of a war, we’ve seen that plenty of times in history. Like when Napoleon and Hitler tried to take Moscow during the winter; or Imperial Japan deciding to bomb Pearl Harbor; or a few other examples of states trying to fight two front wars.

Well, they did just commit a devastating attack in Quetta yesterday.

And they have dreams of conquering Iran as well.

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lawhawk  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:20:19pm
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lawhawk  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:21:35pm

Catfight among deplorables:

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Thanos  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:22:59pm

re: #17 freetoken

I use Google News to get links to many news articles. What is interesting today, and yesterday, is that the “Top Stories” section has few election stories.

Now, I realize that Google tries to be really smart and shape the news feeds to my preferences, but after months of articles about Drumpfskind, and less so Clinton, or this or that election issue, now all of a sudden the stories are other news - e.g. right now the big headline is the VW deal.

A couple of the “Top Stories” on the summary page are about Drumpfskind, but that is fewer than what I am used to.

(I have customized sections for “Elections” and “Donald Trump” so I can click on those for many headlines.)

Same on Facebook, btw. The trending stories on my display are mostly not election related.

Maybe Americans’ interests are now over the election? Have we, as a group, already accepted Clinton as the winner and now we are bored and want something different?

I noticed the same thing, I think that people have reached peak Trump saturation, and want no more.

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KGxvi  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:23:09pm

re: #55 electrotek

Well, they did just commit a devastating attack in Quetta yesterday.

And they have dreams of conquering Iran as well.

I’m sure they have dreams of conquering Iran, I’m just saying if they’re acting rationally (always a big question when you’re an aspiring/expanding empire), they would try to conquer Syria and Iraq before going after Iran.

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electrotek  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:24:17pm

re: #59 KGxvi

I’m sure they have dreams of conquering Iran, I’m just saying if they’re acting rationally (always a big question when you’re an aspiring/expanding empire), they would try to conquer Syria and Iraq before going after Iran.

Very true.

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electrotek  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:24:31pm

These people don’t hide their bloodlust, do they?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:30:32pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

This ad from the Clinton campaign is another excellent piece of short filmmaking, even apart from the political message — like the one a couple of days ago about Khizr Khan. It’s amazingly well done.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:34:42pm

So a video from Trump in Florida last night (apparently) is being posted on FB as proof he’s going to win. I can’t believe I know people so ignorant.

And the “trump voted in Texas being changed to Clinton” BS.

Just setting things up for the rigged/stolen election talk.

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MsJ  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:34:47pm

Man, this is some article about what drives Trump. Really, read this thing.

nytimes.com

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Nyet  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:34:50pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:34:54pm

I notice in the Senate races, 538 now has Feingold, Duckworth, Kander, Bayh, McGinty, and Hassan pretty solidly ahead and Ross in NC with an over 42% chance. Cortez-Masto is leading in NV, too.

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Nyet  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:35:24pm

re: #65 Nyet

amz
@amzcon
moderate conservative. Believes in family values and by the rule of law. judeo values rule. Judea Samaria as well as undivided Jerusalem are Israeli land.

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dangerman  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:36:57pm

re: #56 lawhawk

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like we were saying this morning
everything disproportionately affects them
because there are more d’s than r’s

they want to take away the idea of more people = more votes = majority, because they arent one right now

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Mike Lamb  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:38:24pm

re: #67 Nyet

Definitely reeks of “moderate”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:39:04pm
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Thanos  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:41:56pm

There are three millennia worth of bandit clans that have really ruled the Baloch and Pushtun regions while being nominally ruled by external dynasties. (Sassanid, Mughal, British) Over time the Balochi and Pushtun tribes always consume and destroy their external rulers, I’d like to see ISIS try to take over that region…

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Charles Johnson  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:42:00pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:43:01pm

You gotta love how RWNJs bitch about Obamacare premiums going up while simultaneously not giving a shit about the bloated, broken system that is causing the increase.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:44:07pm

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jeffreyw  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:44:42pm

re: #37 dangerman

we tried duct taping their four feet together first - something for us to grip on and protect from the scratching. but no matter how hard you rub, they dont get the plates clean

Did you dip them in soapy water first?

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wrenchwench  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:44:56pm

re: #67 Nyet

Reported.

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Snarknado!  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:45:08pm

re: #4 darthstar

Gun nuts for gun nuts. Yeah, they’re afraid of homosexuals, but they don’t mind caressing some earth tone testicles while they shoot their loads.

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Add the owner, and all their guns have three nuts. They shouldn’t be selling those things in pairs….

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lawhawk  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:45:49pm

re: #74 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

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wrenchwench  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:46:10pm

re: #75 jeffreyw

Did you dip them in soapy water first?

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That’s the most dangerous part.

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Thanos  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:49:31pm

re: #74 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Tell her congrats from all of us, that’s some awesome work & my wife watched that one.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:54:07pm
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:54:21pm

re: #78 lawhawk

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It was on last night but they will replay it I am sure. :)

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:54:59pm

re: #80 Thanos

Will do and thanks!

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Nyet  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:57:07pm

If this election has done anything good, it’s weeding large sections of the American liberals off Wikileaks.

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lawhawk  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:59:29pm

Sanford. Gee, why does that town ring a bell. Oh wait. Trayvon Martin comes to mind. Also, a long history of racial discrimination.

So no, African Americans wont be voting Trump. They know all too well what Trump means and represents.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 25, 2016 • 12:59:31pm

yes, that white lady is holding up that sign today in Sanford, FL.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:00:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:01:35pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

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oh, look at those gods2 tshirts…

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gocart mozart  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:01:39pm
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:02:04pm

America’s Wang comes through in the end.

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gocart mozart  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:02:51pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:03:16pm
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CleverToad  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:03:25pm

Hafta go back and read the rest of the thread, as time allows, but wanted to drop this off for your amusement, before I drop the ballots into the nearest convenient box.

The Arapahoe County (CO) mail ballots include a full list of voting locations and drop-off boxes inside the envelope. On the outside, they’re plugging a handy feature called “Ballot Track” that lets you track your ballot online and sign up for free messages by email, phone or text when the ballot is mailed to you, and received for counting.

It also includes this note:
“Vote Early! Return your ballot before Election Day and enjoy a quieter election season. As soon as we receive your ballot, your name can be removed from campaign lists.”

This is a R-leaning county that we managed to swing blue for Obama in 2012. Hoping to improve on that performance this year.

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gocart mozart  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:03:44pm
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Maxwell Not So Smart  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:05:26pm

Trump reminds me of “festivus for the rest of us”. This is another of the daily airing of grievances. Zero policy just a huge orange whiney baby.

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freetoken  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:05:33pm

Mini-Drumpf:

Philippines’ Duterte hits out at U.S., then heads to Japan

[…]

Duterte vented at Washington on several fronts, from its bombings of Manila at the end of World War Two to embassy officials once questioning his intentions when he applied for a visa to visit a girlfriend.

[…]

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gocart mozart  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:05:57pm
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lawhawk  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:07:02pm
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lawhawk  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:08:41pm

re: #98 lawhawk

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Sir John Barron  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:09:03pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yes, that white lady is holding up that sign today in Sanford, FL.

She looks more Hispanic to me, but it’s a bit hard to tell, in the picture I’m seeing. But it wouldn’t surprise me.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:10:55pm

re: #85 lawhawk

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Sanford. Gee, why does that town ring a bell. Oh wait. Trayvon Martin comes to mind. Also, a long history of racial discrimination.

So no, African Americans wont be voting Trump. They know all too well what Trump means and represents.

Ironically, Sanford is named for Henry Shelton Sanford who was hired by King Leopold II to lobby European leaders for acceptance of Belgian control over the Congo. That didn’t turn out too well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:11:06pm

re: #100 Sir John Barron

She looks more Hispanic to me, but it’s a bit hard to tell, in the picture I’m seeing. But it wouldn’t surprise me.

Looks like somebody’s old grey-haired white grandma to me, but YMMV.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:11:59pm

re: #100 Sir John Barron

She looks more Hispanic to me, but it’s a bit hard to tell, in the picture I’m seeing. But it wouldn’t surprise me.

Uh, OK, seeing better pic now, blond hair. Yup.

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freetoken  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:13:44pm

Today’s GOP:

GOP Senator On Climate Change: ‘Civilization Thrives’ In Warm Weather!

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI), who is engaged in a tough re-election fight against former Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI), said Monday that he is not concerned about climate change because “civilization thrives” in warm climates.

During an interview on Wisconsin radio station WHBY highlighted by the Huffington Post, the Republican senator said the climate was warmer during the “rise of civilizations in Mexico and Greece.” He then pivoted to note that people enjoy living in places like Florida and Texas.

“How many people are moving up toward the Antarctica, or the Arctic? Most people move down to Texas and Florida, where it’s a little bit warmer,” he said.

[…]

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Kragar  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:15:07pm
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Kragar  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:15:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:16:13pm
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Nyet  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:16:54pm
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dangerman  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:16:55pm

re: #75 jeffreyw

Did you dip them in soapy water first?

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oh yes. iv’e gotten that look ;-)

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freetoken  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:16:58pm

re: #100 Sir John Barron

re: #103 Sir John Barron

Ahem… as noted extensively, “race” is not a biological concept. This is illustrated very well with the misleading terms “white” and “black” which are increasingly not useful in describing population groups.

Someone can be “Hispanic” in the literal sense - of having an connection to Hispania (Latin for the Iberian peninsula), and at the same time be phenotypically blonde haired.

111
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:17:09pm

those damned death panels will not die…

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Maxwell Not So Smart  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:18:13pm

Trump “fact checkers are as crooked as hell” “the press are lying scum” “Clinton wants to shut down American Energy”.

The guy is totally nuts.

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Franklin  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:19:05pm

re: #108 Nyet

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Kragar  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:19:05pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

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EPR-radar  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:19:36pm

re: #81 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

This may be the most delusional thing I’ve ever seen from a RWNJ, and God knows there is intense competition for that title.

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Franklin  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:20:35pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

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those damned death panels will not die…

Maybe they should face…

(•_•)
( •_•)>⌐■-■
(⌐■_■)

a death panel.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:21:52pm

re: #115 EPR-radar

This may be the most delusional thing I’ve ever seen from a RWNJ, and God knows there is intense competition for that title.

So in this dude’s experience, white women are having sex dreams about Trump?

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EPR-radar  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:22:59pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

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those damned death panels will not die…

Because they have always been there in one form or another. The lie in this RWNJ meme is pretending that there was ever a time when we didn’t have “death panels”.

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austin_blue  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:23:45pm

re: #65 Nyet

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wow.

Just got back from early voting. Add two more for the Hillary column.

And two against Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Mars), who lives in San Antonio but got gerrymandered onto our ‘hood.

He is so conservative that he will only fly on airplanes w/ two right wings. Anti-science nutcase.

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Jay C  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:23:59pm

re: #117 Sir John Barron

So in this dude’s experience, white women are having sex dreams about Trump?

I’m pretty convinced that whatever sort of sex dreams white women may be having, they are most definitely NOT in “this dude’s experience”…

121
Maxwell Not So Smart  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:24:22pm

Not sure if you’ve seen Trumpland yet.

Moore in the film. Something close to this: We rightly mourn 3,000 from 9/11. 50,000 Americans die every year because of no or not enough health care and the GOP doesn’t want to fix it.

I’m thinking about that line from the movie while Trump is going on about 3 people who got shot in crimes. This from a person that doesn’t want to see 1 gun taken off the street.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:25:00pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

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those damned death panels will not die…

Still confused why RWNJ wouldn’t like death panels. They like death a lot. Especially for libtards, non-Americans, etc.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:25:37pm

re: #115 EPR-radar

This may be the most delusional thing I’ve ever seen from a RWNJ, and God knows there is intense competition for that title.

Matt Forney is the dollar-store Vienna sausage of alt right derp…but there are equally dumb guys. He hangs out with them.

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EPR-radar  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:27:00pm

re: #122 Sir John Barron

Still confused why RWNJ wouldn’t like death panels. They like death a lot. Especially for libtards, non-Americans, etc.

The Republicans are a death cult that pretends it isn’t a death cult.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:27:48pm

I like Lawrence Tribe but I hate it when dudes pull this kind of obtuse, in an idealistic world bullshit. Fact is men and women don’t have equal stakes in this race and it’s not at all sexist for women to recognize that, band together and vote on that basis.

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wrenchwench  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:28:03pm

re: #110 freetoken

Ahem… as noted extensively, “race” is not a biological concept. This is illustrated very well with the misleading terms “white” and “black” which are increasingly not useful in describing population groups.

Someone can be “Hispanic” in the literal sense - of having an connection to Hispania (Latin for the Iberian peninsula), and at the same time be phenotypically blonde haired.

Agreed, “race” is not a biological concept. However, ‘Hispanic’ is not a racial concept. Even the the US Census says, ‘Hispanics can be of any race’. They do not go on to say ‘race is not a biological concept’. We may get there someday.

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EPR-radar  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:28:26pm

re: #120 Jay C

I’m pretty convinced that whatever sort of sex dreams white women may be having, they are most definitely NOT in “this dude’s experience”…

If I were such a turn off to women that they would rather think of Trump than deal with me, I wouldn’t brag about it.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:29:00pm

re: #11 Franklin

So this happened

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Sorry Jill, in October young voters moved decisively to Clinton.

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Nyet  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:29:29pm

re: #125 goddamnedfrank

- All lives matter!

- Yes, but.

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Belafon  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:31:10pm

re: #125 goddamnedfrank

I like Lawrence Tribe but I hate it when dudes pull this kind of obtuse, in an idealistic world bullshit. Fact is men and women don’t have equal stakes in this race and it’s not at all sexist for women to recognize that, band together and vote on that basis.

He just did the gender equivalent of “All Lives Matter.”

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Danack  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:31:23pm

From electoral-vote.com the democrats have a teeny, tiny advantage in the GOTV effort.

The Democrats have 5,100 paid staffers in the battleground states. The Republicans have 1,400.

(And some select battle-ground states)

Add to this the unpaid volunteers and the Democratic party has a massive advantage.

Also….having 230 workers in New Hampshire, which has a massive 4 electoral votes, when Arizona with 11 electoral votes has only 11 Republican staffers is a great example of ineptitude of the Trump campaign.

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MsJ  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:31:27pm

re: #125 goddamnedfrank

I like Lawrence Tribe but I hate it when dudes pull this kind of obtuse, in an idealistic world bullshit. Fact is men and women don’t have equal stakes in this race and it’s not at all sexist for women to recognize that, band together and vote on that basis.

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Belafon  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:33:32pm

re: #131 Danack

From electoral-vote.com the democrats have a teeny, tiny advantage in the GOTV effort.

Add to this the unpaid volunteers and the Democratic party has a massive advantage.

Also….having 230 workers in New Hampshire, which has a massive 4 electoral votes, when Arizona with 11 electoral votes has only 11 Republican staffers is a great example of ineptitude of the Trump campaign.

It’s probably about keeping Ayotte in office.

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EPR-radar  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:33:49pm

re: #125 goddamnedfrank

This from Tribe is just stupid: “Men have no less reason to oppose DJT than do women.”

It is perfectly clear that Trump and the Republicans threaten women with their anti-choice bullshit in a way that will never directly affect any man.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:34:31pm

Lakeland, FL, October 14:


Today in Sanford:

What do you think? Same woman?

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Nyet  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:35:16pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s OK, it’s Dolezal’s sister. //

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Kragar  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:35:54pm
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freetoken  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:36:38pm

re: #133 Belafon

It’s probably about keeping Ayotte in office.

And also why Ayotte has been so wishy-washy on Drumpfskind.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:36:39pm

good freaking grief…

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lawhawk  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:38:12pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

The website affiliated with that group is a bunch of nutters. See my posts immediately above. And nuts is being charitable.

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Nyet  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:39:27pm

re: #137 Kragar

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:40:24pm

re: #140 lawhawk

The website affiliated with that group is a bunch of nutters. See my posts immediately above. And nuts is being charitable.

Oh yeah, I pointed that out when they showed up at Trump’s Lakeland rally.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:41:09pm
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Kragar  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:41:19pm
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freetoken  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:41:28pm

Many of us here have lamented over junk TV hiding under the guise of educational television, e.g., the History channel and aliens, and my favorite of NatGeo now being a Murdoch outlet.

Anyway, another one of these TV-for-idiots is what the “Science” channel has become. WaPo notices:

The Bermuda Triangle mystery isn’t solved, and this scientist didn’t suggest it was

A Science Channel show is making waves about the Bermuda Triangle this week. It appears to have claimed that the mystery of the region is solved — except that’s not at all what the scientist interviewed intended.

The “What on Earth” segment portrays Randall Cerveny, director of the meteorology department at Arizona State University, as having discovered the secret to the mysterious disappearances, sinkings and crashes that have occurred in the famous region east of the Bahamas. Or at least, he appears to think he has the answer, when in reality he has no interest in anything having to do with the Bermuda Triangle.

“The editing on this was horrendous,” Cerveny told The Washington Post. “I was really upset when I saw this.”

[…]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:41:28pm
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Jay C  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:41:39pm

re: #131 Danack

From electoral-vote.com the democrats have a teeny, tiny advantage in the GOTV effort.

Add to this the unpaid volunteers and the Democratic party has a massive advantage.

Also….having 230 workers in New Hampshire, which has a massive 4 electoral votes, when Arizona with 11 electoral votes has only 11 Republican staffers is a great example of ineptitude of the Trump campaign.

I’m sure that the lack of pushing a ground game in Arizona is due to to the Trump campaign’s thinking - if that word can even be applied to such a buffoon circus - that AZ was so “red”, and such a lock (after all, Sheriff Joe Arpaio is a big Trump booster!) that few “national” resources need have been allocated: probably expecting that the local GOP machine and the reliable retired-bigot vote would do the job for them.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:43:34pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

good freaking grief…

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will the Mexicans pay for that, too?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:44:32pm

re: #36 MsJ

Obamacare premiums to go up by double-digit percentages for millions of people next year, HHS says.

The (false) logic behind it is “if we just abolish ACA, premiums will magically go back down to 2010 levels”.

As if.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:45:44pm
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bratwurst  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:46:13pm

Hey, remember when soon-to-be-ex-Senator Mark Kirk announced he would be writing in the name of Colin Powell instead of supporting his own party’s nominee for POTUS?

Well today we learned who Powell is voting for himself:

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Nyet  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:48:14pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:49:43pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

good freaking grief…

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Houston, we have a problem

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wrenchwench  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:52:30pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:53:20pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:55:18pm

re: #126 wrenchwench

Agreed, “race” is not a biological concept. However, ‘Hispanic’ is not a racial concept. Even the the US Census says, ‘Hispanics can be of any race’. They do not go on to say ‘race is not a biological concept’. We may get there someday.

When the general public hears “Hispanic”, they think “Mexican”. When they think “Mexican”, they think: “Looks like a Southwestern Indian.” An awful lot of truly Hispanic people would slide under their radar, while they’d want to deport a lot of people who’ve lived here for thousands of years.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:57:17pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:58:24pm
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freetoken  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:59:00pm

re: #126 wrenchwench

Agreed, “race” is not a biological concept. However, ‘Hispanic’ is not a racial concept. Even the the US Census says, ‘Hispanics can be of any race’. They do not go on to say ‘race is not a biological concept’. We may get there someday.

Certainly. As I noted, “Hispanic” comes from the word “Hispania”.

If someone grew up in a culture in which Spanish is the first language, the label “hispanic” fits well.

I’ve known Puerto Ricans who were blonde. They are labeled hispanic because they come from a culture in which their Spanish ancestry was significant.

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dangerman  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:59:19pm

re: #123 The Ghost of a Flea

Matt Forney is the dollar-store Vienna sausage of alt right derp…but there are equally dumb guys. He hangs out with them.

i have no idea what this means

and i love it

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gocart mozart  Oct 25, 2016 • 1:59:23pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:00:02pm

re: #156 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

When the general public hears “Hispanic”, they think “Mexican”. When they think “Mexican”, they think: “Looks like a Southwestern Indian.” An awful lot of truly Hispanic people would slide under their radar, while they’d want to deport a lot of people who’ve lived here for thousands of years.

Just don’t talk about it in Northern New Mexico. Fights do ensue. Some ‘Hispanics’ will not go for the term ‘chicano’, and so on and on.

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gocart mozart  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:00:05pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:01:43pm

re: #159 freetoken

If someone grew up in a culture in which Spanish is the first language, the label “hispanic” fits well.

Yet, some will insist that Brazillians are Hispanic. Oy.

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Nyet  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:05:17pm
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freetoken  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:05:49pm

re: #164 wrenchwench

Yet, some will insist that Brazillians are Hispanic. Oy.

Because the old Latin Hispania would include today’s Portugal.

I just accept whatever the Brazilians want to call themselves. Same for the Haitians and other islanders who speak French.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:05:50pm

re: #164 wrenchwench

Yet, some will insist that Brazillians are Hispanic. Oy.

recall the back-and-forth in “enlightened” blogsites over George Zimmerman and his “ethnicity”…

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dangerman  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:06:21pm

re: #149 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The (false) logic behind it is “if we just abolish ACA, premiums will magically go back down to 2010 levels”.

As if.

forget 2010. the test question is “would you be happy if we abolish ACA and set premiums to what they would have estimated to be today if obamacare hadnt happened

169
electrotek  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:07:10pm

What does that make Latinos of Lebanese descent then?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:07:39pm

James Woods LOL!

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Nyet  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:07:54pm

re: #169 electrotek

What does that make Latinos of Lebanese descent then?

A little bit of this, a little bit of that.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:08:29pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

James Woods LOL!

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Only 16 states?! What am I paying my George Soros dues for, then?

////

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dangerman  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:08:34pm

re: #156 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

When the general public hears “Hispanic”, they think “Mexican”. When they think “Mexican”, they think: “Looks like a Southwestern Indian.” An awful lot of truly Hispanic people would slide under their radar, while they’d want to deport a lot of people who’ve lived here for thousands of years.

race, culture, ethnicity, country of origin (birth), religion - you cant determine any of this by *looking* at someone

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Nyet  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:09:00pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:09:37pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

James Woods LOL!

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People can demand a paper ballot all they want.
Doesn’t mean a damned thing if there are no paper ballots.

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wrenchwench  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:10:11pm

re: #165 Nyet

pri.org

The last bit there works well.

[…]

For me, living in this country has taught me the many nuances that still exist when it comes to talking about race, a concept in itself controversial, considered outdated by many, but that here is as valid as ever.

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dangerman  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:12:07pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

James Woods LOL!

[Embedded content]

[Embedded content]Demand a #PaperBallot when you vote. The machines in 16 states are under the control of #GeorgeSoros, thus ensuring a #rigged election.

soros is not an octopus

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freetoken  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:12:45pm

RCP finally turns Minnesota blue:

realclearpolitics.com

Pushes Hillary over 270.

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Nyet  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:14:09pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:14:16pm
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freetoken  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:16:57pm

Rasmussen flipped today also:

rasmussenreports.com

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Sir John Barron  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:17:45pm

re: #180 wrenchwench

Has there always been early-voting? I don’t recall it growing up in NJ.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:18:22pm

re: #178 freetoken

RCP finally turns Minnesota blue:

realclearpolitics.com

Pushes Hillary over 270.

RCP has a POV.

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Nyet  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:19:27pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:20:11pm

re: #182 Sir John Barron

Has there always been early-voting? I don’t recall it growing up in NJ.

Differing states. Alabama still doesn’t have “early” or “mail” as distinct from excused “absentee”.

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Scottishdragon  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:21:26pm

re: #174 Nyet

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What a shame about James Woods. I saw him in El Salvador and his voice over as Hades in Disney’s Hercules was funny as hell.

:(

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Sir John Barron  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:21:46pm

re: #185 Decatur Deb

Differing states. Alabama still doesn’t have “early” or “mail” as distinct from excused “absentee”.

Yeah, in Maryland, early voting starts Thursday. And I intend to be in line bright and early.

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wrenchwench  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:23:01pm

re: #182 Sir John Barron

Has there always been early-voting? I don’t recall it growing up in NJ.

Wiki says no. Started in places in 1992.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:23:04pm

re: #186 Scottishdragon

What a shame about James Woods. I saw him in El Salvador and his voice over as Hades in Disney’s Hercules was funny as hell.

:(

Yeah, he’s been good in a number of movies. I liked him in Nixon as well. Guess he’s done a few Oliver Stone movies.

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wrenchwench  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:23:20pm

re: #184 Nyet

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Tag Gag-worthy.

works either way.

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gocart mozart  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:26:50pm

Blacks 4 Trump

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Jenner7  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:28:55pm
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freetoken  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:30:53pm

The Cook Report:

cookpolitical.com

claims 201 House seats are solid Republican. That means the GOP just needs 16 seats out of the 57 that are in the “lean” “likely” or “toss up” categories, in order to retain the House.

Even if Hillary is elected President, the House under Republican control will not only block any initiative from the Administration, but I suspect will run a continual set of investigations into Hillary and her appointees (at least, of the ones who can make it through the cloture votes in the Senate.)

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Nyet  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:31:39pm

...

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KGxvi  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:33:09pm

re: #159 freetoken

Certainly. As I noted, “Hispanic” comes from the word “Hispania”.

If someone grew up in a culture in which Spanish is the first language, the label “hispanic” fits well.

I’ve known Puerto Ricans who were blonde. They are labeled hispanic because they come from a culture in which their Spanish ancestry was significant.

Hispanic (includes Spain, excludes Brazil) and Latino (includes Brazil, excludes Spain) are ethnicities rather than races. That’s why J-Lo, David Ortiz, and George Lopez all qualify as both, even though they each look very different. It confuses the hell out of people who haven’t spent a lot of time with the social sciences.

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Timothy Watson  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:33:26pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

James Woods LOL!

[Embedded content]

Anyone remember the good ol’ days when rigged voting machines were a moonbat conspiracy theory?

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:38:06pm

re: #74 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

wow!

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MsJ  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:38:12pm

re: #193 Jenner7

Trump. Finally doing something righteous. //

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:38:59pm

re: #193 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

wow…his baldness is really obvious in that pic.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 25, 2016 • 2:47:17pm

re: #197 Timothy Watson

Anyone remember the good ol’ days when rigged voting machines were a moonbat conspiracy theory?

I remember it well. I probably indulged in it a time or two, to varying degrees.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 25, 2016 • 3:17:37pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

For someone so aware of our vast and powerful conspiracy, he sure is being bold. Maybe he finally recognizes that no one will give a shit when he “disappears.”
(Wait - does our conspiracy “disappear” people of just mock them? I get confused sometimes.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 25, 2016 • 4:05:43pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

good freaking grief…

[Embedded content]

Really, he’s getting to the point of promising everything to everyone.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Oct 25, 2016 • 4:24:54pm

re: #140 lawhawk

The website affiliated with that group is a bunch of nutters. See my posts immediately above. And nuts is being charitable.

I wonder how it is that the Secret Service isn’t really concerned about those people. I can see Trump’s people being stupid enough to have them there, but I can’t see the Secret Service allowing those kinds of nutters that close.

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b_sharp  Oct 25, 2016 • 4:31:50pm

Charles, I was just able to see a private comment without being logged in.

I was logged in on my laptop but not my phone. I clicked on the button while on my phone and the comment became visible.

It may have been because I was originally logged in on my phone, then logged in while on my laptop. The check for login may have delayed long enough for me to read the private comment. Just a guess.


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