Because it’s funny, and on this day when Republicans are on the brink of ramming through an insanely destructive (and insanely unpopular) tax bill, I have a feeling we all need something to laugh at.
Clarice (Jodie Foster) has some questions regarding Robert Mueller’s probe into Trump’s ties to Russia directed toward Hannibal Lecter (Stephen Colbert).
This Republican tax bill is a damn scam. Vote them all out.
— John Dingell (@JohnDingell) December 19, 2017
the good news is that if you’ve secretly been a corporation disguising yourself as a hard-working middle-class family, you’ll do GREAT with this tax bill
— Alexandra Petri (@petridishes) December 19, 2017
A story in the @washingtonpost that I was close to “rescinding” the nomination of Justice Gorsuch prior to confirmation is FAKE NEWS. I never even wavered and am very proud of him and the job he is doing as a Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. The unnamed sources don’t exist!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 19, 2017
This confirms Trump threatened to rescind Gorsuch’s nomination. https://t.co/ySIZMEOVYh
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 19, 2017
If this tax bill passes every single Republican needs to immediately shut the fuck up about “fiscal responsibility”.
re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg
If this tax bill passes every single Republican needs to immediately shut the fuck up about “fiscal responsibility”.
They won’t, because they’re not done cornholing the middle class. After the holidays, they’ll get back to that task by taking an axe to “entitlements” to cover up that big hole they just blow in the budget with their cash grab.
Senate committee votes to reject Trump nominee: https://t.co/WA7hQdGjsL pic.twitter.com/p4BjcFA5iM
— The Hill (@thehill) December 19, 2017
The Senate Banking Committee on Tuesday rejected President Trump’s nominee to lead the Export-Import Bank.
The panel in a 10-13 vote declined to advance the nomination of Scott Garrett, a former Republican congressman from New Jersey.
Two Republicans — Sens. Mike Rounds (S.D.) and Tim Scott (S.C.) — joined Democrats in opposing the nominee.
“If there was ever somebody who didn’t belong at the helm of the Ex-Im bank, it was Scott Garrett,” Senate Democratic Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said.
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At his confirmation hearing last month, senators from both parties grilled Garrett over his push to disband the Ex-Im Bank as a member of Congress.
While in the House, Garrett was among the conservatives who persistently tried to shut down the Ex-Im Bank on the grounds that its “crony capitalism” distorts the market to help some of America’s biggest companies.”
Senators questioned whether his views had changed and asked why he should be allowed to lead the agency now.
Garrett vowed that he would let the bank “continue to fully operate,” but many of the senators were unconvinced.
Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio, the top Democrat on the panel, on Tuesday said senators from both parties left that Nov. 1 hearing without any concrete proof that Garrett had actually changed his mind about Ex-Im.
Andrew McCabe arrives at House Intel for an afternoon grilling where GOP members plan to press him about their concerns of FBI bias
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) December 19, 2017
A Fox News contributor speculates on air that FBI officials considered assassinating Trump, then says the theory has been “floated” on “social media.” https://t.co/4UYRgQlvou
— Chris Megerian (@ChrisMegerian) December 19, 2017
An actual news organization would never have this guy on the air again. This is incredibly dangerous. https://t.co/I6ZtciVKOF
— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) December 19, 2017
re: #7 JordanRules
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“Bias we only gave a shit about when it appears to hurt us, not that bias we were sure was going to fry Hillary’s ass until it didn’t.”
Seriously, the idea that they’re suddenly interested in “bias” when they seemed convinced that there would be a “mass exodus” of FBI investigators if Comey “let her go” is so much BS.
re: #7 JordanRules
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Has anyone explained what this was all about? (It’s Trey Gowdy, so it doesn’t have to make sense as long as it’s BENGHAZI!!)
Rep. @TGowdySC says MCCABE could quit FBI to delay his House intel hearing, scheduled for 2 p.m:
“If he were to leave before 2 o’clock today he’d have to have private counsel. They’d have to be read into classified material, It just delays our ability to conduct the interview.”— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) December 19, 2017
Obviously moot, as McCabe showed up and didn’t quit.
I oppose this conference report with every bone in my body. This tax bill is a $2.3 trillion holiday gift for Wall Street, the rich, and the wealthy. Conceived in darkness and birthed with the help of donors and funders. This bill is not for the people. It is not tax reform.
— John Lewis (@repjohnlewis) December 19, 2017
re: #10 BeachDem
I haven’t seen any sense made of that yet.
The $1.5 trillion Republicans want to spend on the #GOPTaxScam would fund CHIP for ***915 YEARS***
— Ron Wyden (@RonWyden) December 18, 2017
They have the votes: Tax bill just reached critical 217 “yes” votes
Tax reform has left the House and on way to the Senate— Matt Laslo (@MattLaslo) December 19, 2017
the most punchable thing you will ever see in your whole life is Paul Ryan’s face the moment he hears protestors begging congress not to kill them to give tax cuts to billionaires pic.twitter.com/WQ5F0nwbGx
— maura “are jack and biz nazis?” quint (@behindyourback) December 19, 2017
It’s going to pass. Republicans are going to fuck the United States big time.
Is it too late to hope a GOP senator or 2 might grow a spine and kill this thing?
re: #16 Charles Johnson
They’re trying to turn the whole country into Kansas.
re: #15 The Vicious Babushka
This is what evil looks like. Unchecked. He’s DARING someone to do something to stop them, and short of being more evil than they are, there’s nothing to do but watch them rip the country to pieces and loot every penny they can. I am sitting here bawling, because I know what’s going to happen, I’ve read enough history to know. I hate these people.
re: #7 JordanRules
This is an absolute disgrace, maybe worse than Trump’s own behavior.
re: #16 Charles Johnson
It’s going to pass. Republicans are going to fuck the United States big time.
And it’s only the start. They’ve figured out they’re fucked next November, so this is their one opportunity with a Republican in the White House to get anything significant passed. Odds are he won’t make it past 2020, and their majority very likely will be gone by then too. So they have to get what they can passed, even if it’s less than they wanted, because they can always go back after they’ve conned voters into giving them back Congress and add what they missed.
re: #11 jaunte
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I oppose this conference report with every bone in my body. This tax bill is a $2.3 trillion holiday gift for Wall Street, the rich, and the wealthy. Conceived in darkness and birthed with the help of donors and funders. This bill is not for the people. It is not tax reform
And it will NOT be “regifted” as higher wages or bonuses
The House Republicans just shivved the United States of America #TaxCutsandJobsAct
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) December 19, 2017
BUT I’LL GET $20 MOAR ON EBERY PAYCHECK. I CAN PAY MY PAYDAY LOAN BACK #MAGA
Honored to preside over the House Floor today. Tune in here → https://t.co/4txeBrV0bB #TaxCutsandJobsAct pic.twitter.com/oMR0Ca66yw
— Rep. Steve Womack (@rep_stevewomack) December 19, 2017
Don’t ever forget how proud he is to preside over the House on the day the #GOP votes to help the rich and hurt the poor and middle class. https://t.co/ZWYdoGgnDw
— Autumn Tolbert (@AutumnDamnIt) December 19, 2017
And if the prevailing theory is that economic instability & inequality do indeed give more bite to the appeal of bigotry…welp
— Vann R. Newkirk II (@fivefifths) December 19, 2017
re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg
They’re trying to turn the whole country into Kansas.
While they live in another state
Today, Republicans sold their souls and principles to give tax breaks to wealthy corporations and their millionaire donors. #GOPTaxScam
— Rep. John Yarmuth (@RepJohnYarmuth) December 19, 2017
This is our country. This is our moment. We will reclaim the principles that have guided us for generations so that our nation is more united, more confident, and more free. pic.twitter.com/9EpTgQg4wK
— Paul Ryan (@SpeakerRyan) December 19, 2017
The only principle which guides the GOP is “FUCK THE POOR!” https://t.co/klFKPl9OlM
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) December 19, 2017
re: #25 dangerman
And it will NOT be “regifted” as higher wages or bonuses
No, but you can be sure every banker, stock broker, and hedge fund manager is sporting wood right now. The Dow will go crazy on all on the stock buybacks and dividends, while companies will be euphoric over being able to “repatriate” all that money they’ve been hiding overseas.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says the Senate would vote on the tax cut bill this evening and send the legislation to President Trump for his signature. https://t.co/GQENBVj4Xf
— The Associated Press (@AP) December 19, 2017
merry christmas y’all…
re: #32 Kragar
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“More united”…in what, hatred of the rich? Because if that’s the case, Ryan, then I do hope you understand that that way tends to lead to a date with either a guillotine or a firing squad. The last time the wealth disparity in this nation was so shockingly high, we watched as numerous nations fell into communist revolutions and barely avoided such due to the New Deal.
Huckabee Sanders: GOP “begged” Dems to work on tax reform https://t.co/Fvrr2JDXh3 pic.twitter.com/4XwtFdQbnI
— The Hill (@thehill) December 19, 2017
Dear @PressSec: You don’t serve in Congress. I do. And I can say with absolute certainty that you are lying. https://t.co/PGGMhnRVzr
— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) December 19, 2017
Current Mood: pic.twitter.com/WPI80iwkzJ
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) December 19, 2017
re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Our job is to strengthen our country and improve the lives of the American people and help them succeed. Taking away healthcare and adding scores of additional giveaways to lobbyists in a tax code already stacked for the special interests clearly fails this test. I voted no. pic.twitter.com/LTUORuBMnr
— Rep. Ted Deutch (@RepTedDeutch) December 19, 2017
U.S. tax cuts won’t make housing more affordable: analysts https://t.co/85W4qkwh7f pic.twitter.com/IFkNbwwMkO
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) December 19, 2017
re: #16 Charles Johnson
It’s going to pass. Republicans are going to fuck the United States big time.
Well, that’s rather blunt. So, thanks.
Look at this mother fucker
Speaker Ryan enthusiastically slams the gavel to mark the House passage of the GOP tax bill. https://t.co/EvZhYrS7nq pic.twitter.com/k4SVGvF2Lw
— NBC News (@NBCNews) December 19, 2017
One more thing to remember about this tax bill:
The tax cut for corporations is permanent.
The tax cut for you is temporary.
That sounds like a good Democrat commercial in 2018. And it should be.— Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) December 19, 2017
re: #48 Kragar
What the hell? When did Walsh switch?
re: #44 Belafon
One could hope he might have to resign to spend more time with his pile of money. I mean there’s no way he’s clean and virtuous. I wish people who know where the bodies are buried (and you know they’re out there) would start digging them up publicly.
re: #32 Kragar
This is our country. This is our moment. We will reclaim the principles that have guided us for generations so that our nation is more united, more confident, and more free. pic.twitter.com
— Paul Ryan
LOLwhut? Do you know who your party elected as president?
re: #49 nowherenorth2
What the hell? When did Walsh switch?
He didn’t. He’s still a dick. But he has had a few “stopped clock” moments as of late.
re: #47 The Vicious Babushka
“And here we have @SpeakerRyan delivering the death blow to the US as the robber barons of the GOP vote to screw millions of Americans.” #TaxCutsandJobsAct pic.twitter.com/0R1v5AX7CC
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) December 19, 2017
re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg
Random. What I get for not being a partof social media.
re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth
no, that was Rand Paul who just got re-elected.
Wasn’t the sociopathic turtle re-elected in 2014, though? That means he’s not on the potential chopping block until 2020 :(
Yes, the assholes are passing this. Deep down, we all knew they would. It is what assholes do. I’m toasting us that we held them off until the very end of December, they wanted to do this 8 months ago. I’m no optimist, but the ancient Greeks knew that pride goes before a fall, and their hubris is at all time highs, even higher than the beer party after they voted to take away healthcare. People full of pride make big mistakes. Many big mistakes. We fight on, not because we are certain we will win, but because it is the moral thing to do.
re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg
He didn’t. He’s still a dick. But he has had a few “stopped clock” moments as of late.
He’s still a dick but a surprisingly lucid one given his past.
No point in criticizing Republicans for not reading the bill. They know where it came from, and that it will funnel even more money to the super-rich. That’s all they need to know. Reading it is irrelevant, and wouldn’t change a single vote.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 19, 2017
Susan Collins says she’s concerned about deficits, and that’s why she’s voting for the tax bill. I’m watching my weight, and that’s why I’m having a huge piece of pie with ice cream.
— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) December 19, 2017
re: #62 Charles Johnson
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None have read it so they can express “surprise” and “dismay” when the specifics come out, with promises of later “fixes” just in time for the midterms.
Huckabee Sanders: GOP “begged” Dems to work on tax reform https://t.co/Fvrr2JDXh3 pic.twitter.com/4XwtFdQbnI
— The Hill (@thehill) December 19, 2017
I haven’t received one email, call, meeting request or text message, from either Republicans in Congress or President @RealDonaldTrump, to work on real bipartisan tax reform. @PressSec is not being truthful here. https://t.co/fJDpPWRRIq
— Rep. Dan Kildee (@RepDanKildee) December 19, 2017
re: #34 Targetpractice
No, but you can be sure every banker, stock broker, and hedge fund manager is sporting wood right now. The Dow will go crazy on all on the stock buybacks and dividends, while companies will be euphoric over being able to “repatriate” all that money they’ve been hiding overseas.
exactly - a gift to the stock market owners, not the workers
and note, iifc, only about 15% of americans have any investment in the market
re: #58 Old Liberal
Unfortunately, we’re in for another long year. Muellers investigation is nowhere near closed and even if Republicans get voted out en masse in November, the new Congress won’t seat until January of 2019.
This could get worse before it gets better.
Reiterates that Pres Trump stands by his oft-stated policy not to release his tax returns until the IRS audit of them is completed. So public won’t be able to see impact of tax cut bill on his taxes until then. pic.twitter.com/39IvHM2xKW
— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) December 19, 2017
Gauntlet thrown: only 2 CA House Republicans voted no on tax bill that may hit CA as hard as any state. Stark contrast to more R’s from NY/NJ voting no. Verdict on that bet due next November. https://t.co/LoeIyVYHUs
— Ronald Brownstein (@RonBrownstein) December 19, 2017
re: #48 Kragar
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These fucking monsters. Making me agree with Joe Walsh.
Serious question: when they say the corporate tax cut is “permanent”, that only means in the context of this specific legislation, correct? That there is no sunset provision? A democratic congress/President could pass new legislation to reverse the tax breaks?
re: #66 dangerman
exactly - a gift to the stock market owners, not the workers
and note, iifc, only about 15% of americans have any investment in the market
I’d love to be able to invest but I have house and car loans to pay, family to feed, clothes that need to be bought, a home in need of repair and health care costs that keep increasing.
re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth
Reiterates that Pres Trump stands by his oft-stated policy not to release his tax returns until the IRS audit of them is completed. So public won’t be able to see impact of tax cut bill on his taxes until then.
ok, then without releasing them, can you tell us the impact the bill will have on his taxes?
re: #70 Mike Lamb
These fucking monsters. Making me agree with Joe Walsh.
Serious question: when they say the corporate tax cut is “permanent”, that only means in the context of this specific legislation, correct? That there is no sunset provision? A democratic congress/President could pass new legislation to reverse the tax breaks?
yep
re: #48 Kragar
.@Kragar_LGF Marie Antoinette “Let them eat cake” is todays’ Donald Trump “let them have fake”
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) December 19, 2017
re: #70 Mike Lamb
These fucking monsters. Making me agree with Joe Walsh.
Serious question: when they say the corporate tax cut is “permanent”, that only means in the context of this specific legislation, correct? That there is no sunset provision? A democratic congress/President could pass new legislation to reverse the tax breaks?
Correct. Permanent until changed again by Congress.
re: #73 dangerman
ok, then without releasing them, can you tell us the impact the bill will have on his taxes?
This won’t benefit Trump…buh-lieve him. It’s no good for him…
If you guessed “Real Estate Pass Through LLCs” (like the ones the Trump family makes their bread and butter with), you would be correct. The @HouseGOP literally just gave @realDonaldTrump and his family $$$ while taking opportunity from small businesses.
— AltEPA (@ActualEPAFacts) December 19, 2017
re: #73 dangerman
ok, then without releasing them, can you tell us the impact the bill will have on his taxes?
Hucky Boo Boo will reply “Why doesn’t Hillary show how much she received in the Uranium deal?”
Honestly, how does that witch sleep? Every word out of her mouth is a lie. Even when she farts and belches she lies!
The bullshit just keeps on coming
.@SteveScalise on the House approving the final tax reform bill: “This is an historic day for you, because now you finally have that shot at the American dream again…” pic.twitter.com/d3FW15QVm5
— Fox News (@FoxNews) December 19, 2017
.@cathymcmorris: “It’s a brighter day for all Americans and their families…everyone is going to have an opportunity for a better life.” pic.twitter.com/AXQvSOa6FQ
— Fox News (@FoxNews) December 19, 2017
re: #56 Interesting Times
Wasn’t the sociopathic turtle re-elected in 2014, though? That means he’s not on the potential chopping block until 2020 :(
His tenure as Majority Leader is at risk.
BTW, I love the link to this on Lawyersgunsandmoney: “You ask for a miracle, I give you the Alabama Republican primary electorate”
re: #80 The Vicious Babushka
The bullshit just keeps on coming
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Who is “you” here? I mean Christ almighty…people won’t turn away extra money even though it’s temporary, but this bullshit that it’s life-changing money is a fucking joke.
Will Trumps tax return for next year be kept secret too?
re: #85 Eclectic Cyborg
Will Trumps tax return for next year be kept secret too?
I’m sure. They’ll have an excuse ready.
re: #67 Eclectic Cyborg
I agree. We are in for a long long downward ride. Stupid doesn’t die easy, and this country is full of stupid right now. I live in Wisconsin and have had to spend time in Kentucky this year, stupid surrounds me.
Based on a scene from Alice in Wonderland, this 1897 puzzle by Sam Loyd asked how many different ways the palindromic question “was it a cat I saw?” can be read in this grid of letters. pic.twitter.com/1JBCwMeEpm
— Haggard Hawks (@HaggardHawks) December 19, 2017
Under #TaxCutsandJobsAct a married couple earning $100,000 per year ($60,000 from wages, $25,000 from their non-corporate business, and $15,000 in business income) will receive a tax cut of $2,603.50, a reduction of nearly 24 percent.
— Senator John Cornyn (@JohnCornyn) December 19, 2017
Ah yes, the famous typical American family we all know and also are a part of https://t.co/nFPpYlaZ7B
— Patrick Monahan (@pattymo) December 19, 2017
re: #85 Eclectic Cyborg
Tax audits are almost always several years behind. They are probably auditing 2013 right now. When they are done with that, they will start on 2014. His returns are audited every year because they are pushing the envelope every year. He will never, ever, not be under audit.
re: #91 Kragar
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Seriously, how many people fall into Cornyn’s hypo? And is that only in red states?
re: #48 Kragar
What world am I inhabiting when I agree with Joe Deadbeat-Dad Walsh?
it will indeed be a better day now that these guys have publicly stated that they’re nothing more than lackeys of the rich (or of Putin, perhaps double dipping on both here). When we vote them out of office, we can then undue this travesty and place the burden back where it belongs, on the wealthy. Don’t expect Dems to go easy on them either, there will be a reckoning and if anything, it will focus the Democratic Party on economic inequality and rectifying that in no uncertain terms.
While there’s a very scary part of me that wants to do violence, those of them that aren’t traitors, I would much rather strip them of their pensions and tax the ever lovin’ crap out of them knowing that this greediness and arrogance made us a better country. For those in cahoots, perp walk every last one of them.
re: #91 Kragar
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House passes GOP tax plan as Congress prepares to deliver Trump’s top legislative priority
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*sigh*
Stand up, dust off, keep the fight alive.— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) December 19, 2017
re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth
POS Republicans could care less about ‘market distortion’- they only want to shit can ExIm because companies with large UNIONIZED workforces (Boeing) benefit from it.
Every other industrialized nation offers below-market interest rates to purchasers of big-ticket items like airplanes, ships, etc. The stupidity of Republicans naturally would dictate they get rid of ExIm.
Now if only Reptards had crossed party lines to deny the rest of tRump’s agency picks…
This is a truly historic day for our country. I’m so excited to finally deliver on tax relief for families, small businesses, and American workers. pic.twitter.com/bPWSXOhfyv
— Paul Ryan (@PRyan) December 19, 2017
The fact that the speaker of the House lies so breathlessly and shamelessly about something so easily fact checked tells you everything you need to know about our current, Orwellian era. https://t.co/C3Efkoub5y
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) December 19, 2017
re: #70 Mike Lamb
These fucking monsters. Making me agree with Joe Walsh.
Serious question: when they say the corporate tax cut is “permanent”, that only means in the context of this specific legislation, correct? That there is no sunset provision? A democratic congress/President could pass new legislation to reverse the tax breaks?
He would have voted for it if he was still in.
Like it or not, big day for @SpeakerRyan. The former waiter at Tortilla Coast, located in the shadows of the U.S. Capitol, today oversees passage of a bill he’s wanted his entire career.
— Ed O’Keefe (@edatpost) December 19, 2017
The fact that passing a bill that raises taxes on waiters at Tortilla Coast in order to give permanent tax cuts to corporations and billionaires and pave the way for gutting Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security is Ryan’s dream is hardly goosebump-worthy. https://t.co/fmF4z7EGH5
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) December 19, 2017
Belief in January was GOP would maneuver in a way—procedurally and policy wise—that would make it impossible for certain Ds to vote against tax reform, gaining at least token “bipartisan” cover and weakening opposition. Nope. Not one. 2/
— Tim Alberta (@TimAlberta) December 19, 2017
re: #102 Kragar
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re: #103 HappyWarrior
A former waiter screwing over current waiters.
A perfect personification of “Fuck you, I’ve got mine.”
re: #99 The Vicious Babushka
Screwing the middle-class and poor is “relief” in Republican-speak. Throw them all out of office!
— Jeff Furlington rejects fascism (@FurlingtonJeff) December 19, 2017
The GOP provided relief for the middle class and poor. They have relieved them of their money and given it to those they consider “more deserving.”
re: #105 Targetpractice
A perfect personification of “Fuck you, I’ve got mine.”
It’s been Ryan’s life in politics to a tee.
I’ve created new charts that show just what an enormous giveaway to the rich the Trump GOP tax plan really is.
They use Tax Policy Center data.
Here’s the key one, showing what happens in 2027:https://t.co/ijnySc7FTt pic.twitter.com/gOzs5JG9iI— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) December 19, 2017
In 2018, here’s what happens:
Bottom quintile gets an average tax cut of $60.
Second quintile gets an average tax cut of $380.
Top 1% gets an average tax cut of $51,140.
Top 0.1% gets an average tax cut of $193,380. https://t.co/E1nLn7N7vA— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) December 19, 2017
re: #107 Targetpractice
The GOP provided relief for the middle class and poor. They have relieved them of their money and given it to those they consider “more deserving.”
Republicans moan, Republicans bitch,
‘Our rich are too poor, and our poor are too rich’
re: #109 Charles Johnson
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Always remember the mantra:
The poor will do more if given less.
The rich will do less unless given more.
I really REALLY hate him
Congratulations to Paul Ryan, Kevin McCarthy, Kevin Brady, Steve Scalise, Cathy McMorris Rodgers and all great House Republicans who voted in favor of cutting your taxes!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 19, 2017
MY SENATOR
THREAD: The Senate is set to vote on the Republican tax bill tonight. I can’t support this plan b/c it’s not a good deal for Michigan middle class families (1/5)
— Senator Gary Peters (@SenGaryPeters) December 19, 2017
MY CONGRESS PERSON
Congresswoman Lawrence Statement on the passage of H.R 1, the “Tax Cuts and Jobs Act” https://t.co/mSMiEnH6Df
— Brenda Lawrence (@RepLawrence) December 19, 2017
re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth
I really REALLY hate him
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They voted to increase the deficit to reward their wealthy donors. You’re all totally-corrupt!
— Jeff Furlington rejects fascism (@FurlingtonJeff) December 19, 2017
THESE TWO ASSHOLES==>
Not sure how everyone will die because of the tax cuts when they’re already dead because of net neutrality repeal.
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) December 19, 2017
They will obviously be more dead… much more dead!!! https://t.co/3LEoX7DCXa
— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) December 19, 2017
re: #117 The Vicious Babushka
THESE TWO ASSHOLES==>
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You’re not a serious person. Your education was completely wasted.
— Jeff Furlington rejects fascism (@FurlingtonJeff) December 19, 2017
He’s as much of a clown as Crowder.
re: #111 EPR-radar
Republicans moan, Republicans bitch,
‘Our rich are too poor, and our poor are too rich’
“The rich don’t have money to create jobs, and the poor have refrigerators and AC! We must remedy this in order to make America!”
#BREAKING: @vademocrats say the recount gives Democrat Shelly Simonds a 1 vote lead in the HD-94 race which would flip the contest from R to D. Waiting for confirmation @nbcwashington
— Julie Carey (@JulieCareyNBC) December 19, 2017
To anyone, no matter your party affiliation, who thinks their vote doesn’t matter or count: The entire balance of power in the Virginia House of Delegates right now is contingent on a single vote. https://t.co/l3i2xpJeSG
— Matt Viser (@mviser) December 19, 2017
re: #117 The Vicious Babushka
THESE TWO ASSHOLES==>
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These two between them are two assholes who deserve a good ass kicking. Never saw Ben condemn Palin or any Republican for hysterics about any Obama policy.
re: #117 The Vicious Babushka
THESE TWO ASSHOLES==>
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— Jeff Furlington rejects fascism (@FurlingtonJeff) December 19, 2017
Now that you mention it, wasn’t society supposed to collapse when gay marriage became legal?
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) December 19, 2017
re: #123 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
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Eric doesn’t talk as much and Barron hardly ever does. Barron is the smartest Trump.
ME AT THE START OF 2017 VS ME NOW pic.twitter.com/ydZsTNNAjT
— Tussauds Orlando (@TussaudsOrlando) December 19, 2017
my son is growing up in a world where it’s 100% normal for Madam Tussauds Wax Museum to roast Walt Disney Imagineering on Twitter https://t.co/8ZwfhU93iI
— Cabel Sasser (@cabel) December 19, 2017
Who’s getting a Trump tax cut,
Nina Turner
Bernie Sanders
Colin Kaepernick
Van Jones
Michael Moore
Cornell West
Killer Mike
Jill Stein
Who’s not getting a tax cut….
You stupid mother fuckers who listened to the people above that both candidates were the same.— Mr. Weeks (@MrDane1982) December 19, 2017
re: #125 Ace-o-aces
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Let’s not forget the economic implosion that was supposed to happen when first Clinton and then Obama raised taxes during their presidencies.
re: #81 Stanley Sea
Rohrbacher & Issa
They are both in trouble, and there are specific targeted campaigns organized against both of them as well as all the other California-based Republican Congresscritters.
The intelligence community hates our fat fuck president so much they told us about aliens
— Henry Zebrowski (@HenryLovesYou) December 19, 2017
re: #130 Kragar
Don’t forget Susan Sarandon.
re: #126 HappyWarrior
Eric doesn’t talk as much and Barron hardly ever does. Barron is the smartest Trump.
Possibly, but I can’t rule out Tiffany
Two favorites here: John Scalzi and cats. They have provided their cats with a new environment for Christmas.
re: #126 HappyWarrior
I have a small glimmer of hope that Barron will be the one to do good things with his life.
re: #138 Ace Rothstein
I have a small glimmer of hope that Barron will be the one to do good things with his life.
That’s just because he’s young. It depends on how long it takes for Melania to take him away from his father’s influence.
re: #137 retired cynic
Two favorites here: John Scalzi and cats. They have provided their cats with a new environment for Christmas.
And one of the comments added this over the top link: And I covet it!
To an unknown Lizard:
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Dear @PressSec: You don’t serve in Congress. I do. And I can say with absolute certainty that you are lying. https://t.co/PGGMhnRVzr
— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) December 19, 2017
Dear @tedlieu - I don’t serve in Congress, but I can read. If you had read the story, not an incorrect tweet, you would see that what I said was Dems should be begging to help Americans keep more of their money. You should spend less time tweeting, more time doing your job. https://t.co/jI3W2a0xaQ
— Sarah Sanders (@PressSec) December 19, 2017
“You should spend less time tweeting, more time doing your job.”
- Official Trump Spokesperson https://t.co/duhNIPMqvt— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) December 19, 2017
Dear @PressSec: You don’t serve in Congress. I do. And I can say with absolute certainty that you are lying. https://t.co/PGGMhnRVzr
— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) December 19, 2017
Dear @tedlieu - I don’t serve in Congress, but I can read. If you had read the story, not an incorrect tweet, you would see that what I said was Dems should be begging to help Americans keep more of their money. You should spend less time tweeting, more time doing your job. https://t.co/jI3W2a0xaQ
— Sarah Sanders (@PressSec) December 19, 2017
The woman who lies for Donald Trump just told @tedlieu he should tweet less and spend more time doing his job. Man. These people. https://t.co/RQzo6bC2Px
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 19, 2017
So she’s not saying that the GOP begged the DNC to help them with the bill, she’s saying that DNC should have been begging to be part of the bill.
Totally different set of circumstances, folks./////
Oh please, Ted, destroy her.
All of America will thank you.
re: #144 Targetpractice
Multiple democrats have publicly stated they would have been willing to work with the GOP on genuine tax reform.
re: #146 Eclectic Cyborg
Multiple democrats have publicly stated they would have been willing to work with the GOP on genuine tax reform.
Which is what makes this whole thing even more of a farce, that the GOP are so desperate to wash the stink of this bill off that they’re openly lying about the DNC not wanting any part of tax reform.
Attention .@GOP:
You signed your 2018 death warrant with this tax travesty.
We are coming for every one of you clowns in the midterms. pic.twitter.com/GAECmRHZa5— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) December 19, 2017
Because I’m self-employed, and for tax reasons I’m considered a sole proprietor, under this tax bill I will be able to take a deduction of 20% right off the top for the sole reason of being self employed, period. No other reason. Someone else that makes the same amount of money I do, but works for someone in a “normal job” won’t. It’s criminal.
A Senate Democratic aide says the parliamentarian has found two provisions violate the Byrd rule, meaning the bill would need to be passed by the House of Representatives AGAINhttps://t.co/pNriUh8Grb pic.twitter.com/1EPkGVdg1n
— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) December 19, 2017
House will have to RE-VOTE the tax bill tomorrow, GOP leadership says. Byrd problems with 2 provisions. Senate votes today after provisions are struck, House votes again tomorrow
— John Bresnahan (@BresPolitico) December 19, 2017
INBOX: Virginia House Republicans concede they lost their majority. Statement from leadership: pic.twitter.com/2cFguDE0tV
— Fenit Nirappil (@FenitN) December 19, 2017
House will have to RE-VOTE the tax bill tomorrow, GOP leadership says. Byrd problems with 2 provisions. Senate votes today after provisions are struck, House votes again tomorrow
— John Bresnahan (@BresPolitico) December 19, 2017
So we have one more day to twist in the wind while Republicans party like it’s 1899. https://t.co/UJbfszRbng
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 19, 2017
re: #152 FormerDirtDart
YAY! Some good news!!!
re: #153 S’latch
It’s 323 days until Tuesday, November 6, 2018.
We need a countdown clock on the right side!!!
re: #154 Charles Johnson
Fucking Robber Barons.
Mayor McCheese (christie) turning himself into a pretzel (morbidly obese pretzel) trying to defend lying Sessions on Nicole Wallace’s show
I can’t believe this UFO bullshit is coming up again.
I love science fiction. But UFOs are not spacecraft piloted by aliens, sorry. The millions of dollars that the Pentagon spent on this is a ridiculous waste of money.
NEW: Senate parliamentarian has advised she would side with Democrats if they challenged three provisions in the final tax bill that is being debated NOW on the floor. They won’t kill the bill if stricken, but House would have to vote again after (!) pic.twitter.com/RN9qwp6IAR
— Laura Litvan (@LauraLitvan) December 19, 2017
re: #161 Charles Johnson
I can’t believe this UFO bullshit is coming up again.
I love science fiction. But UFOs are not spacecraft piloted by aliens, sorry. The millions of dollars that the Pentagon spent on this is a ridiculous waste of money.
Well, to be fair, if anything is likely to arrive to this planet after a very long trip across the space between stars…it’s like to be robotic probes than alien visitors.
re: #161 Charles Johnson
I can’t believe this UFO bullshit is coming up again.
I love science fiction. But UFOs are not spacecraft piloted by aliens, sorry. The millions of dollars that the Pentagon spent on this is a ridiculous waste of money.
Of course not. That’s silly. It’s obviously time travelers.
/
this should be fun for regular tax filers/preparers
The new tax rate takes effect on Jan. 1, a year sooner than proposed, giving firms an extra year of lower tax https://t.co/ESmAERMveK
— The Wall Street Journal (@WSJ) December 19, 2017
re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth
this should be fun for regular tax filers/preparers
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“Our buddies making the millions and billions annually? They get their cuts this year. You folks lucky enough to make it from paycheck to paycheck? You get screwed by those ‘high rates’ another year before you get a break, a year in which we intend to go on screwing you without lube. Thanks for buying that whole ‘economic anxiety,’ losers!”
Today in America a bunch of rich white people are stealing money from ALL working people because they convinced a bunch of poor white people that brown people were to blame for the decline in the economy caused by the LAST TIME rich white people stole money.
— Mikel Jollett (@Mikel_Jollett) December 19, 2017
The FBI is involved with Atlanta’s airport blackout probe. Fire knocked out power to the world’s busiest airport over the weekend. https://t.co/1d79KuA5bg
— AP South U.S. Region (@APSouthRegion) December 19, 2017
re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Yep. Nothing says sucker like the working stiffs that make up the GOP base.
We now go live to the Republican-controlled senate as it convenes ahead of the #GOPTaxScam…. pic.twitter.com/3jc09NNp4M
— Arch1 (@Arch_LGF) December 19, 2017
oh sure…go ahead and try that…
Liberty Counsel says HHS can ignore a court order that it allow two undocumented teens to access abortions https://t.co/FDXCdZsk4g
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) December 19, 2017
re: #162 FormerDirtDart
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I know it is a near impossibility, but it would be downright hilarious if eleven House Republicans decided to have a sudden moment of conscience and changed their vote to a ‘no’ during the re-vote tomorrow.
#BREAKING: Connecticut to end health program for low-income children after Congress fails to pass funding https://t.co/V8BsJWOIx7 pic.twitter.com/IKdVOc5BMM
— The Hill (@thehill) December 19, 2017
Imagine becoming president so you can give yourself a huge tax cut as you uninsure poor kids. https://t.co/rAHGqC3vzt
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) December 19, 2017
Paul Ryan is calling his decision today to pass the #TaxScamBill, which will give himself hundreds of thousands of dollars at the expense of working people, “Our moment.”
He’s right.
This is the moment that will lead to his own defeat.https://t.co/oA480WQ5FY— Randy Bryce (@IronStache) December 19, 2017
re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth
President Sociopath. The brainwashed right made a monster President.
— Jeff Furlington rejects fascism (@FurlingtonJeff) December 19, 2017
re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth
this should be fun for regular tax filers/preparers
@WSJ
The new tax rate takes effect on Jan. 1, a year sooner than proposed, giving firms an extra year of lower tax
I would not be surprised if damn near every corporation in America files for an extension on Jan. 2nd, to give them time to determine what new ways they can carry over 2017 tax liabilities into 2018 to pay even less.
re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth
I think that’s a bonus for them. They WANT to hurt us and want us to die. They hate us and love it that we’re fighting each other instead of them. Their divisive shit has worked just well enough to allow this.
The next Republican to whine about taxes and money and finances in my presence is getting a foot planted somewhere.
Be prepared for Twitter to breakout into arguments about the Byrd Rule.
Don’t trust people who claim to be experts on Bird Law.
It’s not the same thing. pic.twitter.com/9f3esVUTqn— Red T Raccoon (@RedTRaccoon) December 19, 2017
Every time a GOP politician says the #TaxCutsandJobsAct will create jobs, an angel whispers “…in Asia.”
— John Fugelsang (@JohnFugelsang) December 19, 2017
re: #169 HappyWarrior
Yep. Nothing says sucker like the working stiffs that make up the GOP base.
My visit helped confirm my fear that rural white Americans - in areas far beyond the south - have permanently abandoned the Democrats in staggering numbers. It’s not because of policy; if these citizens really looked, they’d find the Democrats’ economic and healthcare agendas and “families before corporations” values would be to their liking. Instead, huge numbers of white rural America believe Democrats stand for an America which they don’t recognize, which they fear, and which they resent.
Strongly suggest reading the whole thing - it confirms, yet again, that it’s useless to try “outreach” to people willfully stuck in the past. Instead, Dems should run on policies that benefit ALL working- and middle-class people (tailored to regional concerns, NOT skin color). Some rural whites might see the light, but the rest, as the diarist says, are gone for good.
re: #169 HappyWarrior
“Yep. Nothing says sucker like the working stiffs that make up the GOP base.”
What continues to surprise me about them are the lengths they’ll go to to push the GOP agenda even if it harms themselves and their families. For example, higher membership in unions would likely increase their salaries and provide good benefits for them and their families and help the economy, but because they watch Fox News, they’ve been convinced that unions are bad and right-to-work laws are great. If they knew that many of those employed by Fox News are probably union members, it would blow their minds. It’s very likely that The Talking Yam has a SAG membership due to his POS reality show The Apprentice, but they wouldn’t believe that either, and if the TY were asked about it, he’d lie.
But according to “Math Guy” @RepErikPaulsen the new tax code will be so simple you can file your taxes on a postcard!! #GOPTaxScam #CorkerKickback pic.twitter.com/lpAN1ourHe
— Kelly Doyle (@NorthWoods_Kel) December 19, 2017
Dear @PressSec: You don’t serve in Congress. I do. And I can say with absolute certainty that you are lying. https://t.co/PGGMhnRVzr
— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) December 19, 2017
Dear @tedlieu - I don’t serve in Congress, but I can read. If you had read the story, not an incorrect tweet, you would see that what I said was Dems should be begging to help Americans keep more of their money. You should spend less time tweeting, more time doing your job. https://t.co/jI3W2a0xaQ
— Sarah Sanders (@PressSec) December 19, 2017
Dear @PressSec: If the Hill tweet was incorrect, then my tweet based on it would also be incorrect. Unlike the Trump Administration, I am confident enough to admit errors. Also, I dare you to give the same tweeting advice you gave me to your boss. https://t.co/EpcCV4VIiM
— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) December 19, 2017
re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #185 Interesting Times
“Strongly suggest reading the whole thing - it confirms, yet again, that it’s useless to try “outreach” to people willfully stuck in the past. Instead, Dems should run on policies that benefit ALL working- and middle-class people (tailored to regional concerns, NOT skin color). Some rural whites might see the light, but the rest, as the diarist says, are gone for good.”
Having lived in GA while being black for over 60 years, I have witnessed firsthand what this diarist wrote about. Many whites in GA and in other states have been convinced by the GOP to hate their fellow Americans even if those persons are focused on creating policies that would improve their lives. All we have to do to get partial confirmation of this is to look at how the majority on the right was convinced to hate Obamacare and think it was “the end of life as we know it in America” all while they were signing up for it and benefiting from it. The very president that they had been told was the anti-Christ was the guy who helped millions of them get healthcare coverage for the first time in their lives. SMDH at their gullibility and stupidity.
re: #186 majii
“Yep. Nothing says sucker like the working stiffs that make up the GOP base.”
What continues to surprise me about them are the lengths they’ll go to to push the GOP agenda even if it harms themselves and their families. For example, higher membership in unions would likely increase their salaries and provide good benefits for them and their families and help the economy, but because they watch Fox News, they’ve been convinced that unions are bad and right-to-work laws are great. If they knew that many of those employed by Fox News are probably union members, it would blow their minds. It’s very likely that The Talking Yam has a SAG membership due to his POS reality show The Apprentice, but they wouldn’t believe that either, and if the TY were asked about it, he’d lie.
Unions in this country ended up being the convenient scapegoat for business leaders and Republican politicians who needed to explain why their “tax cuts for the middle class” were instead leading businesses into automation and moving jobs overseas. So began the portrayal of union leaders as corrupt assholes using dues to live lavish lifestyles, union dues as going to elect “tax and spend” Democrats, and unions themselves as being the driver of jobs away from Americans by pushing unreasonable demands and getting union guys Cadillac benefits at the expense of consumers. See also: The Big 3’s excuse for why their cars suddenly sucked compared to foreign competition and why car prices skyrocketed while quality went out the window.
Hence the move now towards “right-to-work,” which they convince their mind-numbed minions is actually “good” for them because businesses love to move to states where workers have virtually no rights and the state/local laws on worker rights and safety are treated like suggestions rather than enforced. Hence why you won’t hear the horror stories on Fox about Korean-owned companies that set unrealistically high worker production quotas, punish the managers for failing to meet said quotas, and then paper over worker injuries/deaths by blaming the workers and sending the families paltry “Go away” checks.
— hlbchr (@hlbchr) December 18, 2017
OK, this made me laugh. I am ashamed of myself.
re: #186 majii
“Yep. Nothing says sucker like the working stiffs that make up the GOP base.”
What continues to surprise me about them are the lengths they’ll go to to push the GOP agenda even if it harms themselves and their families. For example, higher membership in unions would likely increase their salaries and provide good benefits for them and their families and help the economy, but because they watch Fox News, they’ve been convinced that unions are bad and right-to-work laws are great. If they knew that many of those employed by Fox News are probably union members, it would blow their minds. It’s very likely that The Talking Yam has a SAG membership due to his POS reality show The Apprentice, but they wouldn’t believe that either, and if the TY were asked about it, he’d lie.
You don’t have to tell me. I deal with family members who hated the “CENSORED RACIAL SLUR” in the White House so much they refused to apply for Medicaid or get health insurance!
re: #186 majii
“Yep. Nothing says sucker like the working stiffs that make up the GOP base.”
What continues to surprise me about them are the lengths they’ll go to to push the GOP agenda even if it harms themselves and their families. For example, higher membership in unions would likely increase their salaries and provide good benefits for them and their families and help the economy, but because they watch Fox News, they’ve been convinced that unions are bad and right-to-work laws are great. If they knew that many of those employed by Fox News are probably union members, it would blow their minds. It’s very likely that The Talking Yam has a SAG membership due to his POS reality show The Apprentice, but they wouldn’t believe that either, and if the TY were asked about it, he’d lie.
this is all to rational and logical
they just had their pockets picked
they dont realize it
and they’re happy about it
re: #185 Interesting Times
Strongly suggest reading the whole thing - it confirms, yet again, that it’s useless to try “outreach” to people willfully stuck in the past. Instead, Dems should run on policies that benefit ALL working- and middle-class people (tailored to regional concerns, NOT skin color). Some rural whites might see the light, but the rest, as the diarist says, are gone for good.
What it also shows is that, contrary to the fantasies of the Bros, we cannot win back the South by appealing to the “economic anxiety” of Southern whites. Because they don’t see “economic anxiety” in terms of $15/hr minimum wages or “free” health care, they see it as “those ni-CLANGs get a seat at the same table and I don’t like that!”
re: #194 dangerman
this is all to rational and logical
they just had their pockets picked
they dont realize it
and they’re happy about it
They do not care. As long as they believe that Trump is smacking down colored people and the queers, they’ll see nothing wrong with getting screwed by Wall Street!
re: #186 majii
“Yep. Nothing says sucker like the working stiffs that make up the GOP base.”
What continues to surprise me about them are the lengths they’ll go to to push the GOP agenda even if it harms themselves and their families. For example, higher membership in unions would likely increase their salaries and provide good benefits for them and their families and help the economy, but because they watch Fox News, they’ve been convinced that unions are bad and right-to-work laws are great. If they knew that many of those employed by Fox News are probably union members, it would blow their minds. It’s very likely that The Talking Yam has a SAG membership due to his POS reality show The Apprentice, but they wouldn’t believe that either, and if the TY were asked about it, he’d lie.
Fuck, Reagan was our only president to be president of a Union and he waged war on them. What makes movement conservatism work is scapegoats usually people who look different in some way.
re: #185 Interesting Times
Strongly suggest reading the whole thing - it confirms, yet again, that it’s useless to try “outreach” to people willfully stuck in the past. Instead, Dems should run on policies that benefit ALL working- and middle-class people (tailored to regional concerns, NOT skin color). Some rural whites might see the light, but the rest, as the diarist says, are gone for good.
What that diary doesn’t recognise, and what the ‘intelligent’ newspaper editor also doesn’t recognise, is that these people are indeed gone - not necessarily for good, but for as long as they are fed hate.
This is not a case of progress running up against an intractable stubbornness ingrained into rural white Americans. This is a group of people that have been deliberately targeted and fed hate every hour of every day, whipped into a frenzy of loathing and hatred for the specific goal of making them pliable and willing to buy things, be it crappy goods or political candidates. They have been deliberately made into a hate cult and are unreachable because of that. Does that make any difference to the fact that they are unreachable? Perhaps, only in that if we were to find some way to curtail the massive infrastructure of their cult of hate, there might be a way to lessen their impact at the ballot box. It’s an alternative method of defeating them.
re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth
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NYT (fwiw) editorial on 12/17
The Republican tax bill does not pass the postcard test. It leaves nearly every large tax break in place. It creates as many new preferences for special interests as it gets rid of. It will keep corporate accountants busy for years to come. And no taxpayer will ever see the postcard-size tax return that President Trump laid a kiss on in November as Republican leaders launched their tax overhaul effort. This was not the grand simplification of the code that Republicans promised when they set out to eliminate tax breaks and cut the number of tax brackets as they lowered rates.
emphasis all mine
re: #195 Targetpractice
What it also shows is that, contrary to the fantasies of the Bros, we cannot win back the South by appealing to the “economic anxiety” of Southern whites. Because they don’t see “economic anxiety” in terms of $15/hr minimum wages or “free” health care, they see it as “those ni-CLANGs get a seat at the same table and I don’t like that!”
Which despite what Bernie says is one of the main reasons why we lost their vote. They’d rather screw black working class people than see that they get screwed by the same policies but they’ve been told by GOP politicians a bunch of bs so the cycle continues.
re: #186 majii
Add in the abortion, guns, god and gay. Union members voted Republican since Reagan, mostly over their gun fetish. Understand that the only people left out here are the ones that lacked the intelligence and the drive to go somewhere else. The few smart kids leave and never come back, leaving the dull and disinterested to marry and make more dull disinterested kids. I was a substitute teacher out here, this is a fact not an opinion. These places empty out every 20 years and their dismal economies deplete. Dairies went under in the 80’s, retail went under in the 90’s, recreation/construction went under in the 2000’s. IMHO we non-racists need to focus on the young urban people. I know people like to say “but what about me here in red country”, well, frankly, I’m leaving this state and going to a blue state because the future here is just more decay and desolation.
re: #195 Targetpractice
What it also shows is that, contrary to the fantasies of the Bros, we cannot win back the South by appealing to the “economic anxiety” of Southern whites. Because they don’t see “economic anxiety” in terms of $15/hr minimum wages or “free” health care, they see it as “those ni-CLANGs get a seat at the same table and I don’t like that!”
I’m sure I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again. When many of us look at rural GOP voters and ask why they are voting against their own interests, we’re using a very narrow definition of self interest.
Maybe they won’t get a good job or make more money, but they will get the psychological rewards of being more privileged than some other group. They won’t ever be rich, no matter who is president, so that doesn’t figure into the equation.
re: #196 Joe Bacon 🌹
They do not care. As long as they believe that Trump is smacking down colored people and the queers, they’ll see nothing wrong with getting screwed by Wall Street!
and that is not something you engage to try and change hearts minds opinions etc with persuasion
that’s something you leave in the road behind as you weave around and speed past
and no, politically, im not sure how to do that yet. having a much clearer idea of the problem does help some
re: #199 dangerman
yup
NYT (fwiw) editorial on 12/17emphasis all mine
There will never been a Republican-approved tax code that passes that “test” because so long as there are special interests to line their pockets, there will be carve-outs and loopholes in the tax code.
re: #202 calochortus
I’m sure I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again. When many of us look at rural GOP voters and ask why they are voting against their own interests, we’re using a very narrow definition of self interest.
Maybe they won’t get a good job or make more money, but they will get the psychological rewards of being more privileged than some other group. They won’t ever be rich, no matter who is president, so that doesn’t figure into the equation.
Exactly, they don’t care that they might live in squalor and poverty, just so long as the ni-CLANG next door has it worse than them. If they’ve got to shit in a pot, they want to ensure that nobody with skin darker than them has a pot to shit in. And will vote for a Republican if he promises them not only a pot, but that he’ll swipe those pots from the ni-CLANGs in the process.
re: #191 Targetpractice
“Hence the move now towards “right-to-work,” which they convince their mind-numbed minions is actually “good” for them because businesses love to move to states where workers have virtually no rights and the state/local laws on worker rights and safety are treated like suggestions rather than enforced.”
My youngest brother lives in Washington State and works for Boeing as an electrician. A few years back, we discussed the company’s decision to build a plant in S.C. I told him the top starting salary in S.C. would be a little over $10.00/hr. I used to read The State, SC’s largest newspaper. Those who were commenting there thought that $10.00/hr was a great salary. Working for the same company, my brother makes more than three times what Boeing workers in S.C. make. Part of the deal S.C. lawmakers offered Boeing included the fact that Boeing wouldn’t have to be bothered by “union interference” in S.C. Mark Sanford sold his state’s citizens out to get the Boeing plant. Shortly after the plant went into production mode, work had to stop because the company discovered that quite a few of the workers they’d hired didn’t have the necessary skills to do their jobs and fill the orders. Boeing had to pay a fine to the customer for every Dreamliner it couldn’t deliver on time. Imagine that!
— Frankincensed (@goddamnedfrank) December 19, 2017
re: #204 Targetpractice
There will never been a Republican-approved tax code that passes that “test” because so long as there are special interests to line their pockets, there will be carve-outs and loopholes in the tax code.
oh for sure. each and every line on every single tax form (let alone ‘return’) has many, many special interests behind it
the 86 act (reagan) was a stab at “simplification”. (it didnt).
politics aside, anyone who understands phase ins and phase outs alone knows the code itself can never shrink
I’m sure Abe isn’t pleased with this endorsement:
Former Trump strategist Bannon praises Abe’s nationalist agenda https://t.co/mL3ZY3rWjF pic.twitter.com/hJtxK5ZjdJ
— The Japan Times (@japantimes) December 17, 2017
re: #205 Targetpractice
Exactly, they don’t care that they might live in squalor and poverty, just so long as the ni-CLANG next door has it worse than them. If they’ve got to shit in a pot, they want to ensure that nobody with skin darker than them has a pot to shit in. And will vote for a Republican if he promises them not only a pot, but that he’ll swipe those pots from the ni-CLANGs in the process.
i dont want to start piling on rural america too much here. still i think it’s worse than that:
it seems its any ni-clang anywhere — could be 5 states away or clear across the country
re: #206 majii
“Hence the move now towards “right-to-work,” which they convince their mind-numbed minions is actually “good” for them because businesses love to move to states where workers have virtually no rights and the state/local laws on worker rights and safety are treated like suggestions rather than enforced.”
My youngest brother lives in Washington State and works for Boeing as an electrician. A few years back, we discussed the company’s decision to build a plant in S.C. I told him the top starting salary in S.C. would be a little over $10.00/hr. I used to read The State, SC’s largest newspaper. Those who were commenting there thought that $10.00/hr was a great salary. Working for the same company, my brother makes more than three times what Boeing workers in S.C. make. Part of the deal S.C. lawmakers offered Boeing included the fact that Boeing wouldn’t have to be bothered by “union interference” in S.C. Mark Sanford sold his state’s citizens out to get the Boeing plant. Shortly after the plant went into production mode, work had to stop because the company discovered that quite a few of the workers they’d hired didn’t have the necessary skills to do their jobs and fill the orders. Boeing had to pay a fine to the customer for every Dreamliner it couldn’t deliver on time. Imagine that!
I remember hearing much the same thing back around ‘09-‘10, when the economy was struggling to start rebuilding after the GR. The complaint was that there were a lot of jobs out there…they just required education and experience that was in short supply among workers. Which means companies either weren’t willing to expand or were…but had to spend money retraining people to do what was seen as “basic” work by their new employers. And that’s not including all the businesses that are listing years of experience in a field for entry-level jobs.
Now instead of a decade of whining about the 35% corporate tax rate, we get to listen to a decade of whining about how 21% is communism and 0% is the only way to save the american worker.
re: #205 Targetpractice
Exactly, they don’t care that they might live in squalor and poverty, just so long as the ni-CLANG next door has it worse than them. If they’ve got to shit in a pot, they want to ensure that nobody with skin darker than them has a pot to shit in. And will vote for a Republican if he promises them not only a pot, but that he’ll swipe those pots from the ni-CLANGs in the process.
We all tend to rate our level of prosperity by looking around us. We live in a community with a lot of money sloshing around in it. We aren’t poor by any stretch of the imagination, but I feel confident that our income is well below the average for our area. When you spend time with people who all just got back from some exotic locale or bought a Tesla, or whatever, you need to do a reality check as to where you are on the socio-economic ladder from time to time. If you really are poor, it has to be hard on one’s self esteem, even if it is through no fault of your own.
re: #79 Joe Bacon 🌹
Hucky Boo Boo will reply “Why doesn’t Hillary show how much she received in the Uranium deal?”
Honestly, how does that witch sleep? Every word out of her mouth is a lie. Even when she farts and belches she lies!
well my response to her response would be that she’s not president, had no input and isnt going to sign the bill
then i’d say you show me yours and i’ll show you hers. which i already know is zero.
re: #213 Amory Blaine
Now instead of a decade of whining about the 35% corporate tax rate, we get to listen to a decade of whining about how 21% is communism and 0% is the only way to save the american worker.
“This 21% tax rate is stifling American ingenuity and entrepreneurship! If we had a 0% rate, then businesses would be free to hire more workers and expand their factories!”
re: #185 Interesting Times
Strongly suggest reading the whole thing - it confirms, yet again, that it’s useless to try “outreach” to people willfully stuck in the past. Instead, Dems should run on policies that benefit ALL working- and middle-class people (tailored to regional concerns, NOT skin color). Some rural whites might see the light, but the rest, as the diarist says, are gone for good.
He went to Hillsboro, OH and is quoting freaking Abernathy, who, for some reason, the WaPo lets spew his crap pretty regularly. I occasionally read his crap for an eye-roll or two, and have never learned anything from him other than that he is full of crap. YMMV
While the world has changed, our tax code has not. It has been open season for competitors to come in and take our jobs overseas. That ends today. pic.twitter.com/M4SWNOh5L4
— Paul Ryan (@SpeakerRyan) December 19, 2017
There is no provision in the tax bill that in any way makes it less possible for competitors to take our jobs overseas. https://t.co/Br8GC5tgSU
— Subscribe to My Newsletter (@mattyglesias) December 19, 2017
Ryan has completely internalized the lessons of Trumpism - truth doesn’t matter. Say whatever you think might work.
re: #218 Blind Frog Belly White
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Funny, the last time the tax code changed in a major fashion to favor businesses, what followed was a mass exodus of jobs to foreign locales and automation to replace the simpler tasks.
But I’m sure that was coincidental and that this time what will follow will be a flood of high-paying jobs that address the wealth of unskilled labor this nation enjoys.
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re: #219 Targetpractice
Funny, the last time the tax code changed in a major fashion to favor businesses, what followed was a mass exodus of jobs to foreign locales and automation to replace the simpler tasks.
But I’m sure that was coincidental and that this time what will follow will be a flood of high-paying jobs that address the wealth of unskilled labor this nation enjoys.
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Remembering that Paul Ryan is a follower of Ayn Rand should have been a clue that he not only doesn’t believe that cutting taxes for business owners will raise wages for workers, but also he doesn’t believe that wages for workers SHOULD rise.
What I have never, ever been able to understand is the people who don’t want their (or anyone else’s) kids to be better educated than they are.
Really? Let’s just stagnate and not make any new discoveries?
re: #221 calochortus
Ah dint nede skoool y doo thay nede it?
re: #221 calochortus
What I have never, ever been able to understand is the people who don’t want their (or anyone else’s) kids to be better educated than they are.
Really? Let’s just stagnate and not make any new discoveries?
If you already have that inferiority complex that makes you call people who actually know stuff ‘elites’, then the idea that your children might end up knowing more than you is intolerable. Indeed, the idea that ANYONE might know more than you is intolerable.
re: #223 Blind Frog Belly White
If you already have that inferiority complex that makes you call people who actually know stuff ‘elites’, then the idea that your children might end up knowing more than you is intolerable. Indeed, the idea that ANYONE might know more than you is intolerable.
We lived in Lancaster, PA for a few years and I was honestly shocked that there were people there who didn’t want their kids to be smarter than they were. I want my kids to be smarter, better looking, and happier* than I am.
*I’m a happy, intelligent person. I just want the very best for my kids.
re: #224 calochortus
We lived in Lancaster, PA for a few years and I was honestly shocked that there were people there who didn’t want their kids to be smarter than they were. I want my kids to be smarter, better looking, and happier* than I am.
*I’m a happy, intelligent person. I just want the very best for my kids.
I gre up about an hour west on Rt. 30. There is a VERY strong anti-intellectual strain there. I think, in addition to the question of not wanting their kids to be smarter, there’s also the fear that if their kids go to college, they’ll reject their parents’ religious teachings.
This is completely antithetical to how I was raised. My parents, especially my Mom, raised us to think for ourselves. I know she was disappointed by my atheism, but I know she respected me for arriving at my own conclusions.
I always wonder - if your faith is so fragile that it can only be maintained by keeping its adherents ignorant, what kind of faith is it?
Because 2017 just isn’t quite done with us yet…
Colin Kaepernick, Diddy show they’re serious about buying Panthers https://t.co/hLMFjSwFHz pic.twitter.com/vltPktTwZQ
— New York Post (@nypost) December 19, 2017
Like it or not, big day for @SpeakerRyan. The former waiter at Tortilla Coast, located in the shadows of the U.S. Capitol, today oversees passage of a bill he’s wanted his entire career.
— Ed O’Keefe (@edatpost) December 19, 2017
Paul Ryan was born into one of the wealthiest families in Janesville, Wisconsin. By the time he was 28 he had around $1M in assets which included a home and rental properties. He’s no working class hero because he was a waiter. https://t.co/CKvLsaxezW
— Roqayah Chamseddine (@roqchams) December 19, 2017
re: #227 FormerDirtDart
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He was one of those silver-spoon kids who worked a menial job not because he needed the money, but because he needed the connections that the job would make for him. It’s like the trust fund kiddie who works for a summer as a caddy at daddy’s golf club, he’s there because his daddy’s business partners frequent the club and spending time around them will help when it comes time to take over the business or start his own.
re: #181 A Mom Anon
I think that’s a bonus for them. They WANT to hurt us and want us to die. They hate us and love it that we’re fighting each other instead of them. Their divisive shit has worked just well enough to allow this.
The next Republican to whine about taxes and money and finances in my presence is getting a foot planted somewhere.
Repeated because it needs repeating every few hours.
re: #225 Blind Frog Belly White
I gre up about an hour west on Rt. 30. There is a VERY strong anti-intellectual strain there. I think, in addition to the question of not wanting their kids to be smarter, there’s also the fear that if their kids go to college, they’ll reject their parents’ religious teachings.
This is completely antithetical to how I was raised. My parents, especially my Mom, raised us to think for ourselves. I know she was disappointed by my atheism, but I know she respected me for arriving at my own conclusions.
I always wonder - if your faith is so fragile that it can only be maintained by keeping its adherents ignorant, what kind of faith is it?
Many people’s faith is fragile and I suspect they fear losing it themselves. I think it reduces it to the level of a superstition that you have to believe in or you won’t get the magic. Of course, I’m an atheist, born and raised, so I may not be the best source of theological interpretation.
re: #225 Blind Frog Belly White
I gre up about an hour west on Rt. 30. There is a VERY strong anti-intellectual strain there. I think, in addition to the question of not wanting their kids to be smarter, there’s also the fear that if their kids go to college, they’ll reject their parents’ religious teachings.
This is completely antithetical to how I was raised. My parents, especially my Mom, raised us to think for ourselves. I know she was disappointed by my atheism, but I know she respected me for arriving at my own conclusions.
I always wonder - if your faith is so fragile that it can only be maintained by keeping its adherents ignorant, what kind of faith is it?
The sort of faith that pines for the days when the religious texts and services were conducted strictly in Latin because keeping the peons in the pews ignorant of what the book actually said made it easy to tell them whatever you like and have them believe it was God’s word. While we love the current guy wearing the big hat, it helps to remember that Benedict showed there remains a strong streak of conservatism in Holy Mother Church. And that while you’ll find Sunday preachers who encourage followers to educate themselves, there’s just as many who preach fire and brimstone upon any who question “the word of God.”
re: #223 Blind Frog Belly White
“If you already have that inferiority complex that makes you call people who actually know stuff ‘elites’, then the idea that your children might end up knowing more than you is intolerable. Indeed, the idea that ANYONE might know more than you is intolerable.”
A couple years before I retired in 2009, my principal thought it was a good idea to pair me up with a co-teacher in two of my U.S. history classes. I knew her because she’d been one of my students, but what I didn’t know was that she hated that I knew the subject material better than she did. She started as a special education teacher, then decided she wanted to teach U.S. history which meant she was having to learn the subject matter. It made sense to me that she’d realize I had a better grasp of the subject matter than she did and not be resentful, but she was. I remember a student entering class one day and deciding to play “stump the teacher.” She and I were in the classroom together that day. The young man asked me about Proposition 187 and was surprised when I connected it to taxation and California. The student gave me props, but the look on her face was deadly. I had suspected before that day that she was resentful of my knowledge and ability to recall subject matter, but that day confirmed the idea in my mind that she simply couldn’t believe that I knew more U.S. history than she did. I also felt her negative feelings toward me may have had something to do with her inability to deal with the fact that race doesn’t determine one’s intellectual ability. Many Americans who don’t think that way would be surprised at the number of their fellow citizens who do think that being born into a certain racial group automatically makes one smarter than members of other racial groups. My views on education and my kid are similar to yours. I insisted my daughter educate herself beyond high school, and she did. I want her to do better in life than I’ve done. I always wanted her to be smarter than I am, and I reared her to believe that there’s no shame in being smart.>
re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth
oh sure…go ahead and try that…
We all know these assholes lie; the procedures are being funded by private money, not Federal money.
I get a little consolation from the fact that everyone in Trumpworld is gonna get theirs. If not from Mueller, then from Trump himself. Thread.
I’d love to be able to offer something upbeat today but the best I can offer is this:
A look at just how miserable things are going to get for Trump’s closest allies.
1/— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) December 19, 2017
Thread by a reporter at Phoenix’s NPR affiliate regarding the criminally crappy health care in Arizona prisons by Corizon. I’m a taxpayer and horrified.
WHISTLEBLOWER TESTIMONIAL: Former Prison Doctor Alleges She Was Ordered To Let Inmate Die https://t.co/T4sZ5qAgIu
— Jimmy Jenkins (@newsjunkyjimmy) December 19, 2017
re: #234 makeitstop
That description is so close to my experience that I started wondering if I have PTSD from the years with my crazy ex-boss.
Here’s a clue: when his world was falling apart, he managed to convince me that nobody would hire me because I was too closely tied to him.
After I left, I dithered for a month, putting together a resume and list of contacts. Two days after I sent it out, I got a call back, which led two days later to an interview which was basically “When can you start?” from one ot the guys who hated my ex-boss the most.
re: #234 makeitstop
I get a little consolation from the fact that everyone in Trumpworld is gonna get theirs. If not from Mueller, then from Trump himself. Thread.
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The way things go in such matters, there’s only two real choices for Trump’s inner circle: Turn on him or go down with him. Because the odds you’ll walk away totally unscathed are remote and getting more so with each passing revelation. The last two months have shown that even “low level” guys are gonna get put under the microscope and if you’ve done anything to cover for Donny, you’re gonna spend time in Mueller’s hot seat.
So Bannon is REALLY wanting to establish Breitbart in Asia, preferably in Tokyo or Seoul.
Dear God Almighty, please smite Bannon into the abyss once and for all.
Happy #Hanukkah #Hanukkah2017 8th Light We need light! pic.twitter.com/tUOF5OanCq
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) December 19, 2017
re: #216 Targetpractice
“This 21% tax rate is stifling American ingenuity and entrepreneurship! If we had a 0% rate, then businesses would be free to hire more workers and expand their factories!”
You forgot to add in removing the federal minimum wage. Also add in letting company owned stores and housing becoming the norm again.
re: #239 The Vicious Babushka
Beautiful! Thanks for posting the days of recognition.
re: #102 Kragar
Good on Democrats for standing as one and voting against the tax bill. This is one of the many accomplishments they can run on next November.
Paul Ryan has dreamed of this day since he was at parties in college discussing destroying Social Security and Medicare while filling up his Red Solo at the keg. When I was at parties in college, we talked about sports and girls.
re: #238 electrotek
So Bannon is REALLY wanting to establish Breitbart in Asia, preferably in Tokyo or Seoul.
Japan has always been historically xenophobic, so this isn’t that far of a stretch -at the same time Japan’s population growth has been running negative for quite a while with no signs of it getting any better as their lost decade continues unabated….
re: #238 electrotek
So Bannon is REALLY wanting to establish Breitbart in Asia, preferably in Tokyo or Seoul.
Dear God Almighty, please smite Bannon into the abyss once and for all.
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The last thing we need is a Breitbart Tokyo.
I’m in the numb stage. Didn’t engage today, barely read the comments. Got a shit ton of work completed. (hmmmmmm)
re: #246 Barefoot Grin
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The last thing we need is a Breitbart Tokyo.
It’s already bad enough with those dreaded “sound trucks”.
re: #244 The Major
Japan has always been historically xenophobic, so this isn’t that far of a stretch -at the same time Japan’s population growth has been running negative for quite a while with no signs of it getting any better as their lost decade continues unabated….
Those aren’t really the issues, though. Some Japanese are insular, but many are not. Some pine for the days of semi-divine emperor whose distant ancestor was Amaterasu’s grandson, but many do not. The economy won’t be back to 10% ever again (probably), but it has been doing ok in the last few years.
The problem is that those who understand what led to imperial ambition and emperor-worship and what it would mean again are dying off. If you can manipulate enough young Japanese to believe in Japanese exceptionalism (and there are plenty already), they can cow others into staying silent. Japan won’t be the same kind of threat it was before with the rise of China, but it could become the kind of country you think it already is.
Quite the diplomat, our little Nikki. SHE’S TAKING NAMES (sounds a lot like Omarosa)
At the UN we’re always asked to do more & give more. So, when we make a decision, at the will of the American ppl, abt where to locate OUR embassy, we don’t expect those we’ve helped to target us. On Thurs there’ll be a vote criticizing our choice. The US will be taking names. pic.twitter.com/ZsusB8Hqt4
— Nikki Haley (@nikkihaley) December 19, 2017
re: #249 Barefoot Grin
Those aren’t really the issues, though. Some Japanese are insular, but many are not. Some pine for the days of semi-divine emperor whose distant ancestor was Amaterasu’s grandson, but many do not. The economy won’t be back to 10% ever again (probably), but it has been doing ok in the last few years.
The problem is that those who understand what led to imperial ambition and emperor-worship and what it would mean again are dying off. If you can manipulate enough young Japanese to believe in Japanese exceptionalism (and there are plenty already), they can cow others into staying silent. Japan won’t be the same kind of threat it was before with the rise of China, but it could become the kind of country you think it already is.
I’m just glad the exchange rate is favorable for us right now as I’m looking to buy a Japanese-market car to bring in to the states soon.
re: #243 Ace Rothstein
Paul Ryan has dreamed of this day since he was at parties in college discussing destroying Social Security and Medicare while filling up his Red Solo at the keg. When I was at parties in college, we talked about sports and girls.
“Hi, I’m Paul Ryan. I’m studying Government because can’t wait to rob future kids of the opportunities that made it possible for me to be here, at this college!”
re: #250 BeachDem
Quite the diplomat, our little Nikki. SHE’S TAKING NAMES (sounds a lot like Omarosa)
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