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Watch this. Watch the barely veiled horror on the hosts’ faces as the president of the United States spits into his phone like a senile pensioner calling late-night C-SPAN pic.twitter.com/Ciu11j6h5H
— Adam Weinstein (@AdamWeinstein) April 26, 2018
re: #1 Charles Johnson
That’s when you’d love to have microphones at Fox: “My God, he’s as crazy as they say he is.”
Trump’s personal cell phone usage could be a national security threat. Together w/ @RepRubenGallego we sent a letter to the @WhiteHouse Communications Agency, @SecretService, & @ODNIgov urging them to take steps to ensure @POTUS comms are protected. More: https://t.co/ibx6LhAoeE. pic.twitter.com/2SY50gRgLy
— Rep. Ted Lieu (@RepTedLieu) April 25, 2018
Fox this evening:
“Earlier today, the President called in to talk to us. Here’s how it went:
Fox: Hello, Mr. President
Trump: Thank you for listening to me.
Fox: Did you get Melania anything.
Trump: I got her a card.
Fox: Thanks again, Mr. President.
He’s a busy man, so we didn’t want to keep him on too long.”
Totally opposite. These two nitwits perjured themselves by lying to Congress under oath that they didn’t take any money from Trump campaign.
FEC disclosures indicate they did. Stop lying. It’ll keep you out of prison.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) April 26, 2018
Hannity destroys own reputation by continually claiming other right wing smear merchants and agitprop slingers caught lying under oath are actually destroying the people questioning them.
Nice to see the Fake News! canard get blown up by Trump and on FoxNews. Kinda hard for the wingnuts to hide from that one.
re: #5 lawhawk
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Hannity destroys own reputation by continually claiming other right wing smear merchants and agitprop slingers caught lying under oath are actually destroying the people questioning them.
Hannity destroying his own reputation reminds me of the old line about how do you bomb someone into the stone age when they already live there.
DEVELOPING: Verdict reached in retrial of sexual assault charges against Bill Cosby, DA’s office says.
— NBC News (@NBCNews) April 26, 2018
Two things that seem obvious:
1) Diamond and Silk have repeatedly lied under oath in congressional testimony.
2) They would greatly benefit from an effort to punish them for that.— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) April 26, 2018
LOL
I’m blocked by Michael Cohen, Donald Trump and Sean Hannity.
They know I know.— andy lassner (@andylassner) April 24, 2018
I’m blocked by James Woods, Rosanne Barr, Lou Dobbs & Sebastian Gorka.
Proud of that… 👊🏽
Trade you my Gorka & Woodsy (can’t have Rosanne… she too hot right now) for a Hannity, a Donny Jr. and a player to be named later? 👇👇👇 https://t.co/B7pGXrJd0I— Billy Baldwin (@BillyBaldwin) April 25, 2018
heh, look at the guy’s reaction at the 1:00 min mark when she says “fake news”
Rep. Hakeem Jeffries confronts Diamond and Silk with the FEC record showing the duo were paid $1,274.94 for field consulting work despite them repeatedly telling a congressional committee that they’ve never been paid by the Trump campaign. (via ABC)pic.twitter.com/HBQVYYu38o
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) April 26, 2018
re: #14 gocart mozart
heh, look at the guy’s reaction at the 1:00 min mark when she says “fake news”
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I believe that look translates to “did she just… really?”
re: #14 gocart mozart
heh, look at the guy’s reaction at the 1:00 min mark when she says “fake news”
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Do they not understand that being ‘reimbursed’ is the same as getting paid?
re: #12 MsJ
Three way deal: I’m blocked by Gorka, Woods, and Junior. I’ll accept a case of baseballs in return.
re: #17 lawhawk
Three way deal: I’m blocked by Gorka, Woods, and Junior. I’ll accept a case of baseballs in return.
New or used baseballs?
re: #16 makeitstop
They don’t know or care. They will make any prosecution over this out to be persecution because they’re conservatives - not because they lied to Congress over getting paid by Trump.
re: #20 lawhawk
They don’t know or care. They will make any prosecution over this out to be persecution because they’re conservatives - not because they lied to Congress over getting paid by Trump.
I doubt they know. D&S don’t strike me as smart.
So Trump is visiting the UK on July 13.? This should be fun…
What’s really funny is that some conservatives over here have urged him to miss out London in favour of Scotland. Bwahahahaha!
The letter to the president was signed by the heads of British conservative think tanks the Bow Group, Bruges Group, Parliament Street and the Freedom Association, as well as the chairman of Republicans Overseas Scotland and a contributor to ThinkScotland.
They told the president the political and media establishment in London was “far out of touch” with the feelings of ordinary people outside the capital, many of whom they said “strongly support” his leadership
This would be the capital where half of the population of the UK lives. And, also, Buckingham Palace.
The letter states: “Your ancestral homeland of Scotland represents a powerful bond between you and Britain, and given the nature of the climate in London, it is a superior destination.
Bwahahahaha!!!!!
“Scotland and the North of England also offer a variety of locations where you would be able to speak directly to ordinary British people and witness the true level of support that exists for you and the special relationship between the US and the UK.”
Like this? (NSFW)
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Michael Avenatti hints $1.6 million abortion payout was for Trump — not GOP donor https://t.co/flKQJZMJiA
— Raw Story (@RawStory) April 26, 2018
I do believe that is illegal.
re: #16 makeitstop
Do they not understand that being ‘reimbursed’ is the same as getting paid?
The worst punishment for them will be being denied attention.
I earn more than $320 a week, and I don’t even have a job
This teacher takes home just $320/week — less than her teen daughter makes as a nanny.
Arizona teachers explain why they are walking out of classes by sharing stories about gifts from strangers, multiple jobs and the feeling their students are suffering https://t.co/mLqxqApv7Q pic.twitter.com/CGx8wynsRd— CNN (@CNN) April 26, 2018
re: #5 lawhawk
Hannity doesn’t believe anything he says. He’s a man with no education, who became wealthy by misleading Conservatives to get them frothing with delusional rage.
— Jeff “We call BS” Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) April 26, 2018
I’d “say no education or skills”, but lying with a straight face day after day is a skill.
re: #6 b.d. (Candy Man)
Nice to see the Fake News! canard get blown up by Trump and on FoxNews. Kinda hard for the wingnuts to hide from that one.
Watch them. I bet they ate that interview up and are saying “attaboy Mr. President, you tell them fake news people at CNN, NBC, CBS, WaPo, NYTimes what’s what!”
BREAKING: Bill Cosby convicted of drugging and molesting a woman in first big celebrity trial of (hash)MeToo era.
— The Associated Press (@AP) April 26, 2018
Jury: Bill Cosby guilty on all 3 counts - https://t.co/RXQR6a1Y0D
— Breaking News (@BreakingNews) April 26, 2018
re: #31 lawhawk
I have to say I am surprised. My reading of what went on did not sound good for the prosecution. I am glad, though.
My childhood “dad” broke my fucking heart.
re: #24 Alephnaught
Scotland? As in the place filled with people like this:
Yeah, good luck with that.
re: #31 lawhawk
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Sad end for him but it’s even more disturbing he did this and got away with it for so long.
re: #1 Charles Johnson
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Isn’t he just spewing stuff back at them that he heard on Fox & Friends? Are they all like “Oh we know that’s all bullshit, we never meant anyone to actually take it seriously!”
re: #35 HappyWarrior
Sad end for him but it’s even more disturbing he did this and got away with it for so long.
I loved his early comedy and his first TV show…never paid much attention to The Cosby Show…
This is Luke watching @foxandfriends this morning. pic.twitter.com/MHvZHGX1Y2
— Mark Hamill (@HamillHimself) April 26, 2018
No link. People looked. Nothing in the WSJ.
STOP FALLING FOR BULLSHIT. We’re supposed to be smarter than they are. GAH!
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) April 26, 2018
re: #35 HappyWarrior
Sad end for him but it’s even more disturbing he did this and got away with it for so long.
I’m sure he has plenty of fans in prison who don’t care about drugging and raping.
re: #37 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I loved his early comedy and his first TV show…never paid much attention to The Cosby Show…
He never did it for me but he was iconic.
re: #22 HappyWarrior
I doubt they know. D&S don’t strike me as smart.
How can you as a White person say that when you didn’t talk to their mouths???
I guess you read fake news too!
(Did I do that right?)
re: #36 The Vicious Babushka
Isn’t he just spewing stuff back at them that he heard on Fox & Friends? Are they all like “Oh we know that’s all bullshit, we never meant anyone to actually take it seriously!”
A shorter version of Trump’s call:
re: #39 MsJ
It’s all confirmation bias bulkshit (because it’s more than mere bullshit).
I am no fan of Bill Cosby but never-the-less some free advice - if you are innocent, do not remain silent. You look guilty as hell!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 20, 2014
A 2014 tweet that combines the Michael Cohen and Bill Cosby stories in one… https://t.co/uB1tRX3qWO
— Brian Klaas (@brianklaas) April 26, 2018
Amid a scramble to put together a profile on Kim Jong Un, U.S. officials said another challenge was determining how much information to give Trump https://t.co/TO0BeWWXJB via @davidbrunnstrom @mattspetalnick
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) April 26, 2018
re: #44 lawhawk
It’s all confirmation bias bulkshit (because it’s more than mere bullshit).
In this case, it’s at least believable. Look at Trump…..I’d reckon he weighs in at well over 250 so saying he’s at 289 is probably pretty damn close to the truth.
Yeah, and probably serious hypertension as well. Lack of exercise, poor diet, etc.
re: #37 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I loved his early comedy and his first TV show…never paid much attention to The Cosby Show…
There is literally an entire generation of black professionals who looked to The Cosby Show and A Different World as aspirational, and are pretty much furious.
re: #48 Bass Reeves
There is literally an entire generation of black professionals who looked to The Cosby Show and A Different World as aspirational, and are pretty much furious.
Can’t say I blame them.
re: #37 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I loved his early comedy and his first TV show…never paid much attention to The Cosby Show…
Me too. I was telling The Boys this, that before he fell into the whole “Fat Albert/Jello Pudding” era of not-funny-anymore, he was fucking BRILLIANT, that his routines were pantswettingly funny.
But really, that ended before 1970.
re: #34 KGxvi
Scotland? As in the place filled with people like this:
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Yeah, good luck with that.
And the place which reacted on Twitter to Trump’s endorsal of the Brexit vote like this: (Keeping the Scottish Doctor theme going)
Don’t fuck with the Scots. We love you David! #Brexithttps://t.co/XgAIYcE7tt
— Full Frontal (@FullFrontalSamB) June 29, 2016
(Actually, that’s a more polite accent than most of the tweets were written in. And they missed my favourite one where someone called Trump a “shit-tobogganist”.)
re: #50 Blind Frog Belly White
Me too. I was telling The Boys this, that before he fell into the whole “Fat Albert/Jello Pudding” era of not-funny-anymore, he was fucking BRILLIANT, that his routines were pantswettingly funny.
But really, that ended before 1970.
He really understood how kids think…
re: #51 Alephnaught
And the place which reacted on Twitter to Trump’s endorsal of the Brexit vote like this: (Keeping the Scottish Doctor theme going)
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(Actually, that’s a more polite accent than most of the tweets were written in. And they missed my favourite one where someone called Trump a “shit-tobogganist”.)
COCKSPLAT! I will never not love that.
Michael Cohen must be having an interesting morning. Less than 24 hours ago he filed paperwork to plead the 5th in a case to protect the guy who he has spent a large portion of his professional career covering for. A guy who he considered a friend, who he did unethical if not illegal things in defense of, who no doubt told him in private moments how great a friend he considered him, before that “friend” got elected to the White House and took along the kids that hate Mike’s guts but left Mike back in NYC to keep doing his bidding.
Now Mike is facing the very real possibility of jail time over something he claims was a “favor” to that friend…and his friend, in less than 5 minutes, just blew a massive hole in his legal case right below the waterline. Any real hope of asserting “attorney-client privilege” is gone, as is the defense that his friend was totally ignorant of the payout meant to silence personally embarrassing info. And it’s now inevitable that his “friend” is going to go to the press in the near future to begin distancing himself in the hope of avoiding legal consequences if Mike is convicted.
Were I Mike, I’d seriously consider returning any calls from Robert Mueller in the past couple weeks. Probation and a fine is better than doing time in the pen waiting for a pardon that may never come.
At 1:45, the Senate is voting to confirm Richard Grenell to be U.S. ambassador to Germany.
Congrats to the first person I ever blocked on Twitter for aggressive rudeness! pic.twitter.com/WTzO2ofPTw— Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) April 26, 2018
Grenell is one of the ugliest, nastiest trolls on Twitter, so of course he’s getting a plum government job. https://t.co/0jPq3OREi5
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 26, 2018
Whoa. Amid a post-verdict discussion over whether to revoke convicted Cosby’s bail, the DA noted he owns a private plane.
“Doesn’t matter that I have a plane, you a**hole!” Cosby shouted, per @MattPieper.— Steven Portnoy (@stevenportnoy) April 26, 2018
re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
He really understood how kids think…
*boomboom…boomboom…boomboom…*
It’s in your home state…
*boomboom…boomboom…boomboom…*
It’s outside of your door…
*boomboom…boomboom…boomboom…*
And it’s going to eat YOU up!
re: #46 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
I don’t know which is worse, the fact that the intelligence community isn’t sure if it can trust Trump, or that they don’t think he’ll listen/internalize what they tell him, or… well, this part:
Early in his administration, Trump was shown a scale model of North Korea’s sprawling nuclear bomb test site with a removable mountaintop and a miniature Statue of Liberty inside so he could grasp the size of the facility, two U.S. officials said.
re: #57 Blind Frog Belly White
*boomboom…boomboom…boomboom…*
It’s in your home state…
*boomboom…boomboom…boomboom…*
It’s outside of your door…
*boomboom…boomboom…boomboom…*
And it’s going to eat YOU up!
which is why you have to spread jello all over the floor and set the couch on fire.
makes perfect sense
Your moment of “Stupid Watergate” today comes from Jefferson Beauregard:
‘This thing needs to conclude’: Jeff Sessions says Mueller probe is distracting Trump from ‘France and North Korea’ https://t.co/v0A24o781n
— Raw Story (@RawStory) April 26, 2018
For those who aren’t students of history, one of the popular arguments by the White House as “shit got real” was that the whole thing was “distracting” Nixon from addressing America’s “real problems.”
Stonewalling https://t.co/wuEvOkr4Kf
— Raw Story (@RawStory) April 26, 2018
re: #55 Charles Johnson
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Ah Greneil, a second act after Mitt fired him for being gay.
re: #50 Blind Frog Belly White
Me too. I was telling The Boys this, that before he fell into the whole “Fat Albert/Jello Pudding” era of not-funny-anymore, he was fucking BRILLIANT, that his routines were pantswettingly funny.
But really, that ended before 1970.
He went from comic to social lecturer.
Makes me wonder if at that same time is when he started his pattern of abuse of women. He may have used his moralizing to act as cover for what was really going on.
You know, sort of like the despicable actions of some of the corrupt priests in the Catholic Church hiding behind the cloth and cross.
The timeline fits too. I think he got into the Fat Albert thing in the early 70s. You know what else was big in the early 70s? Quaaludes, also known as Sopors. A quick way to feel “drunk” without drinking and the hangover. And that was his drug of choice.
re: #61 Kragar
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From the crowd that brought you “HILLARY NEEDS TO TURN OVER HER SPEECH TRANSCRIPTS SO WE CAN KNOW WHAT SHE PROMISED TO THE BANKS!”
re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
which is why you have to spread jello all over the floor and set the couch on fire.
makes perfect sense
*boomboom…boomboom…boomboom…*
What chicken heart are you talking about?
The one on the radio!
*boomboom…boomboom…boomboom…*
Silly idiot - turn it off!
*boomboom…boomboom…boomboom…*
*Click*
Hadn’t thought of that.
.@DiamondandSilk DESTROY Democrats on Capitol Hill… https://t.co/8TYpLFGM62
— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) April 26, 2018
Please explain how committing perjury multiple times destroys Democrats. https://t.co/56XDfUowOa
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) April 26, 2018
Not the first time I’ve been @-ed by mistake (I HOPE) for similar handled @BillCosby but definitely the funniest pic.twitter.com/iLbuSKpSCI
— Bill Corbett (@BillCorbett) April 26, 2018
re: #60 Targetpractice
Your moment of “Stupid Watergate” today comes from Jefferson Beauregard:
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For those who aren’t students of history, one of the popular arguments by the White House as “shit got real” was that the whole thing was “distracting” Nixon from addressing America’s “real problems.”
Isn’t “this investigation is a distraction” pretty much page 3 of the White House manual for handling issues? Seems like something every recent president has used at some point.
re: #63 ObserverArt
He went from comic to social lecturer.
Makes me wonder if at that same time is when he started his pattern of abuse of women. He may have used his moralizing to act as cover for what was really going on.
You know, sort of like the despicable actions of some of the corrupt priests in the Catholic Church hiding behind the cloth and cross.
The timeline fits too. I think he got into the Fat Albert thing in the early 70s. You know what else was big in the early 70s? Quaaludes, also known as Sopors. A quick way to feel “drunk” without drinking and the hangover. And that was his drug of choice.
Quaaludes were the party drug of the 70’s…back when “date rape” was not a concept yet…
re: #68 KGxvi
Isn’t “this investigation is a distraction” pretty much page 3 of the White House manual for handling issues? Seems like something every recent president has used at some point.
All Republicans have to do is confess and throw themselves on the mercy of the courts and we can end this right now.
re: #54 Targetpractice
Michael Cohen must be having an interesting morning. Less than 24 hours ago he filed paperwork to plead the 5th in a case to protect the guy who he has spent a large portion of his professional career covering for. A guy who he considered a friend, who he did unethical if not illegal things in defense of, who no doubt told him in private moments how great a friend he considered him, before that “friend” got elected to the White House and took along the kids that hate Mike’s guts but left Mike back in NYC to keep doing his bidding.
Now Mike is facing the very real possibility of jail time over something he claims was a “favor” to that friend…and his friend, in less than 5 minutes, just blew a massive hole in his legal case right below the waterline. Any real hope of asserting “attorney-client privilege” is gone, as is the defense that his friend was totally ignorant of the payout meant to silence personally embarrassing info. And it’s now inevitable that his “friend” is going to go to the press in the near future to begin distancing himself in the hope of avoiding legal consequences if Mike is convicted.
Were I Mike, I’d seriously consider returning any calls from Robert Mueller in the past couple weeks. Probation and a fine is better than doing time in the pen waiting for a pardon that may never come.
That’s Trump!
People like Cohen are to be used.
I hope Cohen is smart enough to realize Trump bullshitted him the whole time and that he was going to be dumped on at first need.
Problem is, Cohen seems to be dense enough to think Trump is a good guy in a tough position and he may still take the hit for him.
Look at some of the people Trump has surrounded himself with. Many are not the brightest bulbs. And Trump knew that and used them.
re: #60 Targetpractice
Your moment of “Stupid Watergate” today comes from Jefferson Beauregard:
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For those who aren’t students of history, one of the popular arguments by the White House as “shit got real” was that the whole thing was “distracting” Nixon from addressing America’s “real problems.”
I want to see ‘Bad Lipreading’ do John Dean’s testimony at the Watergate hearings.
re: #60 Targetpractice
Your moment of “Stupid Watergate” today comes from Jefferson Beauregard:
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For those who aren’t students of history, one of the popular arguments by the White House as “shit got real” was that the whole thing was “distracting” Nixon from addressing America’s “real problems.”
…Does this mean Trump wants to nuke France?
re: #39 MsJ
No link. People looked. Nothing in the WSJ.
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He is on our side? Hmmm…he has a habit of tweeting fake BREAKING NEWS with no link. Think that is a bot or works for the other team. Tweet examples under tags so as not to spread.
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re: #66 Kragar
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Yep Hannity, destroyed.
JUST IN: Diamond and Silk falsely claim under oath they weren’t paid by Trump campaign https://t.co/OZtp8DunGF pic.twitter.com/UuTISIl2sM
— The Hill (@thehill) April 26, 2018
re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Quaaludes were the party drug of the 70’s…back when “date rape” was not a concept yet…
‘Date rape’ was a concept as soon as dating was a concept.
A thing that keeps happening that gets no attention: pro-choice GOP Sens. Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski are voting to confirm lifetime federal judges who are incredibly anti-choice. https://t.co/nrhxnyafTO
— Jennifer Bendery (@jbendery) April 26, 2018
re: #63 ObserverArt
He went from comic to social lecturer.
Makes me wonder if at that same time is when he started his pattern of abuse of women. He may have used his moralizing to act as cover for what was really going on.
You know, sort of like the despicable actions of some of the corrupt priests in the Catholic Church hiding behind the cloth and cross.
The timeline fits too. I think he got into the Fat Albert thing in the early 70s. You know what else was big in the early 70s? Quaaludes, also known as Sopors. A quick way to feel “drunk” without drinking and the hangover. And that was his drug of choice.
I think his moralistic lecturing started about 30 years later, in the 00’s.
But to me, his comedy went downhill as he lost touch with his childhood, or maybe he ran out of things to say? Like a band that puts out brilliant work for a while but then runs out of good songs.
I felt like he had a good run in standup in the 1960s, then kind of lost his way artistically till The Cosby Show, where he found some footing again as part of a team, then lost his way again after that.
I don’t know that I’d even tie his artistic ups and downs to his serial rapist activities. He’s kind of an object lesson that someone can be brilliantly funny and do good works while being a monster in another aspect of his life. Few monsters are simply monsters entirely.
Meet it is I set it down
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain
WATCH LIVE: Thousands of teachers in Phoenix, AZ walk out in protest over low pay and funding. https://t.co/sabnm3K5rU pic.twitter.com/mcJIunixG2
— ABC News (@ABC) April 26, 2018
re: #76 wrenchwench
‘Date rape’ was a concept as soon as dating was a concept.
I was being a bit facetious, but attitudes about it were quite different back then
re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I was being a bit facetious, but attitudes about it were quite different back then
Not a thing about which to be facetious.
Whose attitude was different?
re: #63 ObserverArt
He finished his Master’s/PhD in the 70s and made a deliberate turn towards respectability in the 80s. I think that was slightly separate than the drugging women part.
My wife and I noted that his respectability stuff was actually counter to the conclusions in his thesis, but that was a few years before this stuff resurfaced.
re: #60 Targetpractice
Your moment of “Stupid Watergate” today comes from Jefferson Beauregard:
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For those who aren’t students of history, one of the popular arguments by the White House as “shit got real” was that the whole thing was “distracting” Nixon from addressing America’s “real problems.”
do your work
dont watch fox
‘distractions’ solved
re: #81 wrenchwench
Not a thing about which to be facetious.
Whose attitude was different?
the attitude of society towards the women who actually came forward and claimed to have been raped by their dates, as they generally knew they would be seen as sluts who deserved it
It took a while before women started getting taken seriously on this account and daring to come forward
re: #78 Blind Frog Belly White
I think his moralistic lecturing started about 30 years later, in the 00’s.
But to me, his comedy went downhill as he lost touch with his childhood, or maybe he ran out of things to say? Like a band that puts out brilliant work for a while but then runs out of good songs.
I felt like he had a good run in standup in the 1960s, then kind of lost his way artistically till The Cosby Show, where he found some footing again as part of a team, then lost his way again after that.
I don’t know that I’d even tie his artistic ups and downs to his serial rapist activities. He’s kind of an object lesson that someone can be brilliantly funny and do good works while being a monster in another aspect of his life. Few monsters are simply monsters entirely.
The Cosby Show was moralizing. Wasn’t he seen as everyone’s father figure? He preached on that show and acted like how a proper African American family should act.
You don’t have to tie anything together. He did that with his actions. The comedian is the rapist.
re: #51 Alephnaught
And the place which reacted on Twitter to Trump’s endorsal of the Brexit vote like this: (Keeping the Scottish Doctor theme going)
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(Actually, that’s a more polite accent than most of the tweets were written in. And they missed my favourite one where someone called Trump a “shit-tobogganist”.)
I love him/Broadchurch!
re: #78 Blind Frog Belly White
But to me, his comedy went downhill as he lost touch with his childhood, or maybe he ran out of things to say? Like a band that puts out brilliant work for a while but then runs out of good songs.
I remember hearing some rock star basically say you can’t tell good stories after a certain age (I want to say 30) because all the interesting stuff happens to young people. Same thing about becoming too rich/famous, you need that struggle. Same probably holds true for comedy.
re: #82 Bass Reeves
He finished his Master’s/PhD in the 70s and made a deliberate turn towards respectability in the 80s. I think that was slightly separate than the drugging women part.
My wife and I noted that his respectability stuff was actually counter to the conclusions in his thesis, but that was a few years before this stuff resurfaced.
Does anyone really know how long he had been doing his crimes? I think it goes back into the 60s.
I believe what has happened is he was such a nice guy that all was ignored until it started to get big attention in the last few years.
I think everyone bought in on Bill Cosby…not the real Bill Cosby. He was that good at the cover.
re: #89 dangerman
remember this?
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or this one?
fuck, I forgot how topical those lyrics still are:
“You said that you were lied to
Well that ain’t hard too see
But you must have been fooled again by your friends across the sea
And maybe you were fooled again by your people here at home
Because nobody could talk like you
And know what’s going on
Nobody elected your family
And we didn’t elect your friends
No one voted for your advisers
And nobody wants the men
You’re the one we voted for, so you must take the blame
For handing out authority to men who were insane”
re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
the attitude of
societymen towards the women who actually came forward and claimed to have been raped by their dates, as they generally knew they would be seen as sluts who deserved itIt took a while before women started getting taken seriously on this account and daring to come forward
FTFY
Men were in charge of everything. Almost everything.
re: #92 wrenchwench
FTFY
Men were in charge of everything. Almost everything.
Get ‘em liquored up is as old as the hills.
You are right wrench. Drugs just made it easier and slicker. The goal, the crime, is the same.
re: #77 Charles Johnson
Fairly sure they voted for most all of W’s nominees who had the same positions. There’s an argument to be made that Senators should vote for an otherwise qualified judicial appointment, even if that nominee doesn’t agree on hot button issues. The idea being that in 15-20 years on the bench, they might only see 2 or 3 cases on that issue. But they’re going to see hundreds on all sorts of mundane issues like whether or not a triable issue of material fact exists in a particular case or whether a rebuttable presumption should apply (and if so was it rebutted).
I’m not entirely sure I agree with that point of view. And it rings hollow coming from Republicans following the Garland Incident. But in “ordinary” times, I could understand the approach.
re: #51 Alephnaught
The only thing better than Tennant getting all cussy over Trump is Capaldi getting cussy.
because we live in hell i have downloaded the campaign ad for white supremacist Paul Nehlen, who paid Diamond and Silk $7000 for it. enjoy pic.twitter.com/GweDKtIwux
— 👹 special boy (@HonoredSpirit) April 26, 2018
The Diamond and Silk campaign ad for Paul Nehlen, who later revealed himself to be a white supremacist, is a wild ride https://t.co/Vsv0TNc6VI
— Will Sommer (@willsommer) April 26, 2018
Imagine what we’d discover if all Trump’s nominees and appointments were drug-tested.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 26, 2018
re: #81 wrenchwench
Not a thing about which to be facetious.
Whose attitude was different?
Not to stick my oar in and move this off point, but that question, “Whose attitude was different?” is something that needs consideration.
When I was growing up, there were a lot of things that we now recognize as nonconsensual, even as rape, that were just ‘not something nice guys do’.
Think how many movies include scenes where a guy proves himself to be somehow a better guy than the average run of men because he had an opportunity to ‘take advantage of’ a woman who was drunk - that’s nice, but the implication is that he’s somehow NOBLE for not doing it, that to have done would have been acceptable, even expected.
There’s a discussion of this in Molly Ringwald’s excellent piece looking at the movies she made in the 1980s in light of the Me Too movement. We look back and cringe at scenes we laughed at a few decades ago.
So, clearly society in general didn’t see things the same then as we do now. But what about individuals? Did women ALWAYS see it this way? Or do women now find themselves looking back and thinking, “I accepted that as just part of dating then, but really, it was NOT OKAY!”?
re: #85 ObserverArt
The Cosby Show was moralizing. Wasn’t he seen as everyone’s father figure? He preached on that show and acted like how a proper African American family should act.
You don’t have to tie anything together. He did that with his actions. The comedian is the rapist.
My view of the Cosby show wasn’t that it was moralizing so much as it was saying “We don’t have to be their stereotype of us”, and presented an example rather than a sermon.
re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White
Not to stick my oar in and move this off point, but that question, “Whose attitude was different?” is something that needs consideration.
When I was growing up, there were a lot of things that we now recognize as nonconsensual, even as rape, that were just ‘not something nice guys do’.
I remember that attitude: there were virtuous women that you dated but did not have sex with until marriage, and non-virtuous women that you just fucked and dumped.
That attitude was common well into the 60’s and only started to change then but it was still prevalent and still shapes our thinking about sexual relations to this day
re: #101 Charles Johnson
Imagine what we’d discover if all Trump’s nominees and appointments were drug-tested.
Imagine what we’d discover if all Trump’s nominees and appointments were -
-background checked
-iq-tested
-polygraphed (yes, i know)
He’s what happens when cocaine decides it wants to be a real live boy.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 26, 2018
re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White
Not to stick my oar in and move this off point, but that question, “Whose attitude was different?” is something that needs consideration.
When I was growing up, there were a lot of things that we now recognize as nonconsensual, even as rape, that were just ‘not something nice guys do’.
Think how many movies include scenes where a guy proves himself to be somehow a better guy than the average run of men because he had an opportunity to ‘take advantage of’ a woman who was drunk - that’s nice, but the implication is that he’s somehow NOBLE for not doing it, that to have done would have been acceptable, even expected.
There’s a discussion of this in Molly Ringwald’s excellent piece looking at the movies she made in the 1980s in light of the Me Too movement. We look back and cringe at scenes we laughed at a few decades ago.
So, clearly society in general didn’t see things the same then as we do now. But what about individuals? Did women ALWAYS see it this way? Or do women now find themselves looking back and thinking, “I accepted that as just part of dating then, but really, it was NOT OKAY!”?
Some women always saw things this way. Some did not. That’s OK, we all had to deal with things as they were. We all do that differently. And things change. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. And it all gets reflected on over the years.
re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White
A couple of other recent examples: people paying attention to the lyrics of Baby It’s Cold Outside; the “Apu situation” on the Simpsons; prison rape jokes; Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany’s.
I’m not sure the best way to deal with a lot of those things. You can make the obvious point of “this isn’t acceptable now” and get into the discussion of whether it should have ever been acceptable, but that leads to the problem of not recognizing that society evolves and that at some point, something we see as no big deal will be looked back on in the future as terrible.
re: #66 Kragar
How are your 750 houses today Sean?
re: #109 KGxvi
A couple of other recent examples: people paying attention to the lyrics of Baby It’s Cold Outside; the “Apu situation” on the Simpsons; prison rape jokes; Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany’s.
I’m not sure the best way to deal with a lot of those things. You can make the obvious point of “this isn’t acceptable now” and get into the discussion of whether it should have ever been acceptable, but that leads to the problem of not recognizing that society evolves and that at some point, something we see as no big deal will be looked back on in the future as terrible.
If people ever come to look back and judge my words & actions in 50-75 years, I would like them to judge me by my contemporary standards and not theirs…
re: #110 Sir John Barron
How are your 750 houses today Sean?
Ask Mike Cohen, he was the one he discussed real estate with…
re: #109 KGxvi
A couple of other recent examples: people paying attention to the lyrics of Baby It’s Cold Outside; the “Apu situation” on the Simpsons; prison rape jokes; Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany’s.
I’m not sure the best way to deal with a lot of those things. You can make the obvious point of “this isn’t acceptable now” and get into the discussion of whether it should have ever been acceptable, but that leads to the problem of not recognizing that society evolves and that at some point, something we see as no big deal will be looked back on in the future as terrible.
When Warner Brothers originally released their Loony Toons cartoons on DVD, they left out a bunch of them that we now know are racist. A lot of people cried foul, including people like Whoopi Goldberg. The newer release includes those, with discussions from people like Whoopi about the following content.
re: #1 Charles Johnson
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Yet Hugh Hewitt praised Trump’s appearance. Bizarre but true.
re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I remember that attitude: there were virtuous women that you dated but did not have sex with until marriage, and non-virtuous women that you just fucked and dumped.
That attitude was common well into the 60’s and only started to change then but it was still prevalent and still shapes our thinking about sexual relations to this day
There are those who think that the Sexual Revolution was a really bad deal for women, because it just made women more likely to have sex, from which men would clearly be the beneficiary. There’s some truth in that, but it’s a lot more complicated, I think.
It blurred the line between the ‘virtuous’ and ‘nonvirtuous’ women you speak of, meaning that the ‘virtuous’ ones were more free to explore their own desires. And the ‘nonvirtuous’ ones were less stigmatized.
I think the idea that the Sexual Revolution just made it easier for for guys to get laid has embedded in it the commoditization of sex, the idea that sex is something that women do for men, not something women might actually want to do.
And eventually, the whole thing has moved around to realizing that if sex is something women might want to do, that their participation is entirely their choice, that wanting to or not wanting to is their prerogative and that neither one should be stigmatized or ignored.
I dunno. Am I making any sense here?
re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White
So, clearly society in general didn’t see things the same then as we do now. But what about individuals? Did women ALWAYS see it this way? Or do women now find themselves looking back and thinking, “I accepted that as just part of dating then, but really, it was NOT OKAY!”?
I’ll tell you what *I* accepted back then:
Keeping my mouth shut because it was a fact that I would not be believed and/or whatever happened was completely my fault.
Truth be told, I’m not seeing a whole lot of improvement these days despite the #MeToo campaign.
re: #109 KGxvi
A couple of other recent examples: people paying attention to the lyrics of Baby It’s Cold Outside; the “Apu situation” on the Simpsons; prison rape jokes; Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany’s.
I’m not sure the best way to deal with a lot of those things. You can make the obvious point of “this isn’t acceptable now” and get into the discussion of whether it should have ever been acceptable, but that leads to the problem of not recognizing that society evolves and that at some point, something we see as no big deal will be looked back on in the future as terrible.
Society evolves. Individuals evolve. But, unlike the biological evolution, people are responsible for themselves and society. The trick is to prevent the backsliding, and keep things going in the right direction. And acknowledging the past is a necessary part, not for distribution of guilt, but for reconciliation and learning.
The week so far…
Memo 1: “Ensure you encrypt all sensitive email correspondence.”
Memo 2: “Make sure you update your access cards.”
Memo 3: “You cannot unlock encrypted emails using the new access cards” pic.twitter.com/5MPgTcl8QX— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) April 26, 2018
re: #114 Patricia Kayden
Yet Hugh Hewitt praised Trump’s appearance. Bizarre but true.
Hugh is all about Team Republican, in other words: he’s a fan. He just wants his team (whether it’s the Browns, Indians, Notre Dame, or the Republican Party) to win. He really is a nice guy, I never had a bad interaction with him in law school, and even my more liberal classmates liked him on a personal level. But he roots for his teams and there’s nothing he won’t spin as good news for them.
re: #109 KGxvi
A couple of other recent examples: people paying attention to the lyrics of Baby It’s Cold Outside; the “Apu situation” on the Simpsons; prison rape jokes; Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany’s.
I’m not sure the best way to deal with a lot of those things. You can make the obvious point of “this isn’t acceptable now” and get into the discussion of whether it should have ever been acceptable, but that leads to the problem of not recognizing that society evolves and that at some point, something we see as no big deal will be looked back on in the future as terrible.
and further, you’d only be dealing with segments of the population - both back then, and now. everybody, everywhere doesnt think the same way.
you wind up with a grid:
for some it was acceptable back then and still should be
for others it wasnt then and isnt now
for still others it was, and now it isnt
and the last - it wasnt then and should be now - you know, the incels
and sadly, this applies to all sorts of issues
re: #109 KGxvi
A couple of other recent examples: people paying attention to the lyrics of Baby It’s Cold Outside; the “Apu situation” on the Simpsons; prison rape jokes; Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany’s.
I’m not sure the best way to deal with a lot of those things. You can make the obvious point of “this isn’t acceptable now” and get into the discussion of whether it should have ever been acceptable, but that leads to the problem of not recognizing that society evolves and that at some point, something we see as no big deal will be looked back on in the future as terrible.
and ps - that mickey rooney role was cringe worthy even back then. what a bizarre decision to write the part that way
re: #114 Patricia Kayden
Yet Hugh Hewitt praised Trump’s appearance. Bizarre but true.
Hugh Hewett would praise Trump’s bowl movements.
re: #113 Belafon
When Warner Brothers originally released their Loony Toons cartoons on DVD, they left out a bunch of them that we now know are racist. A lot of people cried foul, including people like Whoopi Goldberg. The newer release includes those, with discussions from people like Whoopi about the following content.
I think I remember Warner Bros having a disclaimer similar to the one below at the beginning of their cartoon compilations when I was watching them on videotape sometime in the early ’90s.
re: #123 Skip Intro
Hugh Hewett would praise Trump’s bowl movements.
isn’t that just a euphemism for his morning tweets?
re: #115 Blind Frog Belly White
And eventually, the whole thing has moved around to realizing that if sex is something women might want to do, that their participation is entirely their choice, that wanting to or not wanting to is their prerogative and that neither one should be stigmatized or ignored.
I dunno. Am I making any sense here?
Yes, you are, this is a really deep and nuanced topic, and an emotionally charged one.
I think that the Sexual Revolution is still going on. And we are seeing that although there can be such a thing as “casual sex”, it is often fraught with a lot of consequences and complications.
After all, the whole point of the sex drive is the ultimate consequence: creating a human life.
re: #113 Belafon
When Warner Brothers originally released their Loony Toons cartoons on DVD, they left out a bunch of them that we now know are racist. A lot of people cried foul, including people like Whoopi Goldberg. The newer release includes those, with discussions from people like Whoopi about the following content.
And Disney has disowned Song of the South
re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Yes, you are, this is a really deep and nuanced topic, and an emotionally charged one.
I think that the Sexual Revolution is still going on. And we are seeing that although there can be such a thing as “casual sex”, it is often fraught with a lot of consequences and complications.
After all, the whole point of the sex drive is the ultimate consequence: creating a human life.
One of the best aspects of the Sexual Revolution was actually separating reproduction from the sex drive.
re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
And Disney has disowned Song of the South
Just in the US. It’s apparently available outside the US.
Also, it’s the theme of the Splash Mountain rides at Disneyland/Disneyworld.
re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Yes, you are, this is a really deep and nuanced topic, and an emotionally charged one.
I think that the Sexual Revolution is still going on. And we are seeing that although there can be such a thing as “casual sex”, it is often fraught with a lot of consequences and complications.
After all, the whole point of the sex drive is the ultimate consequence: creating a human life.
That’s what the science of evolution says. People defy science in so many ways. We can now separate sex from procreation. That’s what is revolutionary. That is what has made women able to do almost all the things that men do. The war is still being waged.
re: #33 MsJ
I have to say I am surprised. My reading of what went on did not sound good for the prosecution. I am glad, though.
My childhood “dad” broke my fucking heart.
My dad loved Cosby. I’m glad he’s not around to see this.
re: #125 scottslemmons
I think I remember Warner Bros having a disclaimer similar to the one below at the beginning of their cartoon compilations when I was watching them on videotape sometime in the early ’90s.
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If you found that, it might be back when they released them on video, so I guess I didn’t remember far enough back. The DVDs do contain this:
re: #130 Blind Frog Belly White
One of the best aspects of the Sexual Revolution was actually separating reproduction from the sex drive.
Rick Santorum would disagree with you on that point…
another thing it did was to start to free women from their role as chattel whose market value was diminished if they engaged in premarital sex
Otto Warmbier’s parents sue North Korea for having ‘brutally tortured and murdered’ him. The timing could have big implications. https://t.co/HpqDHW8gQQ
— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) April 26, 2018
This should make things…interesting.
re: #109 KGxvi
A couple of other recent examples: people paying attention to the lyrics of Baby It’s Cold Outside; the “Apu situation” on the Simpsons; prison rape jokes; Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany’s.
I’m not sure the best way to deal with a lot of those things. You can make the obvious point of “this isn’t acceptable now” and get into the discussion of whether it should have ever been acceptable, but that leads to the problem of not recognizing that society evolves and that at some point, something we see as no big deal will be looked back on in the future as terrible.
I’m in the camp that these things were always terrible and many if not most of us knew it at the time. The difference is that society as a whole was simply okay with being cruel to minorities and stereotyping them. I grew up with Asian American friends who were traumatized by the Long Duk Dong character in Sixteen Candles and the bullying it cosigned. I also remember thinking that the sex by deception scene in Revenge of the Nerds was rape.
It’s not that people don’t get that these things are terrible in real time, it’s that the creators and too many in the audience thought they were terrible AND transgressive and therefore somehow that translated as funny, when in fact they were just shitty.
re: #132 wrenchwench
That’s what the science of evolution says. People defy science in so many ways. We can now separate sex from procreation. That’s what is revolutionary. That is what has made women able to do almost all the things that men do. The war is still being waged.
there were ways known to us long before modern science, but they were frowned upon, outlawed or stigmatized because they allowed women to control their bodies, and by extension, to control men…
He’s Islamophobic! He’s homophobic! He’s a warmonger! He’s our new face to the rest of the world, so now there’s really no hiding who we are. #Pompeo pic.twitter.com/6kTnr6gDjK
— Full Frontal (@FullFrontalSamB) April 26, 2018
re: #130 Blind Frog Belly White
One of the best aspects of the Sexual Revolution was actually separating reproduction from the sex drive.
QFT., or something.
re: #135 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Rick Santorum would disagree with you on that point…
another thing it did was to start to free women from their role as chattel whose market value was diminished if they engaged in premarital sex
Him and the incels. They don’t like the modern world because women have the choice not to marry.
Dave, Dave! You’re, err… squishing me a bit down here. pic.twitter.com/Tlp4f3Xbd0
— In Otter News (@Otter_News) April 26, 2018
re: #138 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
there were ways known to us long before modern science, but they were frowned upon, outlawed or stigmatized because they allowed women to control their bodies, and by extension, to control men…
I don’t get the bolded part.
re: #93 Skip Intro
“And Trump could live for 200 years! He’s just that healthy.”
stable genius moron:
Trump calls for replacing Electoral College system with popular vote: It would be “much easier to win” https://t.co/BlINVNnDZi pic.twitter.com/JWXfQuuxLI
— The Hill (@thehill) April 26, 2018
I’m guessing nobody told him how he won.
re: #119 KGxvi
Hugh is a lawyer?!!!! Wow. Didn’t know that. Perhaps my estimation of what it takes to be a lawyer is too high.
re: #143 wrenchwench
I don’t get the bolded part.
women who are not afraid of getting pregnant can use the power of their coochies to drive men to distraction, this is why we cannot let them have birth control!
It took 60 accusers, 50 years and two trials to bring one sexual abuser to justice. Has #MeToo gone too far?
— Rebecca Cohen (@GynoStar) April 26, 2018
re: #104 Blind Frog Belly White
My view of the Cosby show wasn’t that it was moralizing so much as it was saying “We don’t have to be their stereotype of us”, and presented an example rather than a sermon.
I think you are weighing the word too much in the direction of the word you used: preaching.
It was done more subtly.
Here is definition of moralizing from The Free Dictionary online:
mor*al*ize (môr′ə-līz′, mŏr′-)
v. mor*al*ized, mor*al*iz*ing, mor*al*iz*es
v.intr.
To think about or express moral judgments or reflections.
v. tr.
1. To interpret or explain the moral meaning of.
2. To improve the morals of; reform.
I think #2 hits what I am talking about.
It took me a bit of time to remember this Harvard psychologist who consulted with Cosby of The Cosby Show. Pretty clear what the Cosby show was designed to do with what he says in this video.
re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth
I concur. So does Secretary Clinton.
re: #131 KGxvi
Just in the US. It’s apparently available outside the US.
Also, it’s the theme of the Splash Mountain rides at Disneyland/Disneyworld.
I went and looked at the snopes page about the movie. James Baskett, who played Uncle Remus, was Disney’s first black actor. He couldn’t attend the showing of the movie, because no one would rent him a room.
They should figure out a way to remake it, getting rid of the “slavery wasn’t that bad” feel. There are a lot of kids that don’t know the Brer Rabbit stories, nor do a lot of them know the Emperor’s New Clothes (which I know is a different group of stories).
re: #144 Patricia Kayden
“And Trump could live for 200 years! He’s just that healthy.”
The Doc from Central Casting must have some great pills in his bag.
re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth
Trump calls for replacing Electoral College system with popular vote: It would be “much easier to win”.
What the fucking fuckitty fuck? I just can’t even
I lost the ability to laugh at Trump jokes a long time ago, but this is really brain-twisting.
re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I’m guessing nobody told him how he won.
And no one should. We should encourage him to work on getting rid of the electoral college. It will keep him out of trouble and if he gets it done, that’s a bonus.
re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
women who are not afraid of getting pregnant can use the power of their coochies to drive men to distraction, this is why we cannot let them have birth control!
That statement makes me think men are controlled by their hormones. Some of them. The ones who think that way.
re: #146 Patricia Kayden
Hugh is a lawyer?!!!! Wow. Didn’t know that. Perhaps my estimation of what it takes to be a lawyer is too high.
He had a couple of general counsel jobs in the Reagan administration. And, at least when I was in law school in the early aughts, was a name partner at a firm that did land rights issues. So, he’s got a solid pedigree. But again, when it comes to politics, you just have to remember that he’s a fan of Team R more than anything else.
re: #121 Skip Intro
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Lol! I’m dying. They look sick to their sniveling stomachs. Poor dears. If they actually paid any attention, they’d have figured out long ago that Trump is a raging lunatic — just a wealthier version of Alex Jones, to be honest.
re: #149 ObserverArt
I’d say that in modern America, the connotative meaning of moralize is substantially negative.
re: #154 calochortus
And no one should. We should encourage him to work on getting rid of the electoral college. It will keep him out of trouble and if he gets it done, that’s a bonus.
And by encourage, I mean Democrats should go “No, no, no! Don’t do that.”
(Speaking of Brer Rabbit.)
re: #150 Patricia Kayden
I concur. So does Secretary Clinton.
Interestingly, so did James Madison, but he knew it couldn’t win because of slavery, so we got the three-fifths compromise and the electoral college instead.
re: #155 wrenchwench
That statement makes me think men are controlled by their hormones. Some of them. The ones who think that way.
I am again being facetious, or rather blithely expressing an attitude that was and still is prevalent: that women cannot be allowed to use their wiles to control menfolk without having to face the consequence of an unwanted pregnancy and the moral stigma attached to it.
It was accepted that men are driven by their testosterone, that was seen to be a good thing, as long as men controlled things.
it is a complicated topic, and I realize that any comment I toss off needs a ton of footnotes and clarification.
re: #155 wrenchwench
That statement makes me think men are controlled by their hormones. Some of them. The ones who think that way.
That’s the assumption behind telling women not to dress too scantily, because men will become inflamed and should not be expected to not be rapey. “What were you wearing? Did you lead him on? Why did you agree to go to his room?”
re: #158 Patricia Kayden
I’m going with sarcasm.
re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
What the fucking fuckitty fuck? I just can’t even
I lost the ability to laugh at Trump jokes a long time ago, but this is really brain-twisting.
It’s denial in response to narcissistic injury. He can’t accept that he didn’t win the popular vote and only barely managed to game out an electoral college win with FBI & Russian interference. So he naturally needs to make it seems like he won by the “harder” route and that millions of “illegals” voted against him.
re: #148 lawhawk
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I think what gets me are all the wingnuts who once defended Cosby because he was their ideal of what a black man “should be” and insisted that all his victims were “gold diggers” who will now insist they “always” knew he was guilty.
re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I am again being facetious, or rather blithely expressing an attitude that was and still is prevalent: that women cannot be allowed to use their wiles to control menfolk without having to face the consequence of an unwanted pregnancy and the moral stigma attached to it.
It was accepted that men are driven by their testosterone, that was seen to be a good thing, as long as men controlled things.
it is a complicated topic, and I realize that any comment I toss off needs a ton of footnotes and clarification.
The part I’m having trouble dealing with is that you can no longer find humor in jokes about Trump, but you can be facetious in the area of women’s freedom. Because that’s what we’re typing about.
re: #161 KGxvi
From my previous research, the whole idea of the Electoral College came about as the Constitutional Convention was winding down. It was already well into summer, and folks wanted to get home. They knew Washington was going to be the president, and they figured the House would always pick the president because the big states would choose their favorite sons. They also figured the new Congress would sort out any problems.
re: #165 goddamnedfrank
It’s denial against narcissistic injury. He can’t accept that he didn’t win the popular vote and only barely managed to game out an electoral college win with FBI & Russian interference. So he naturally needs to make it seems like he won by the “harder” route and that millions of “illegals” voted against him.
Ayep, to this day he remains absolutely convinced he won the popular vote if you just remove all the “illegal votes.”
re: #165 goddamnedfrank
It’s denial against narcissistic injury. He can’t accept that he didn’t win the popular vote and only barely managed to game out an electoral college win with FBI & Russian interference. So he naturally needs to make it seems like he won by the “harder” route and that millions of “illegals” voted against him.
Funny that Trump has broached something I agree with. I think that the EC should be kept on but kick in if no candidate gains a clear majority of the popular vote.
Otherwise we need a runoff system or a first-past the post. I could deal with the former but not the latter.
re: #101 Charles Johnson
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Charles, they would have to build another wing at the Betty Ford Clinic!
Cosby yells “you asshole” at prosecutor for suggesting he’d flee on private plane after guilty verdict https://t.co/SM5UdDdksN pic.twitter.com/O2814YHZrt
— The Hill (@thehill) April 26, 2018
Guess what. Cosby avoided justice for decades through a sense of entitlement.
He’s not entitled to any benefit of doubt as a now convicted felon.
did not know this and not surprised.
White QB josh allen is a racist.
the most surprising point of the story is not that he is a racist, but that you should know to scrub your racist tweets before people find them and point them out to show who the person really is.
re: #167 wrenchwench
The part I’m having trouble dealing with is that you can no longer find humor in jokes about Trump, but you can be facetious in the area of women’s freedom. Because that’s what we’re typing about.
I will be more humorless in any further discussion of the topic if you are having trouble with that.
re: #166 Targetpractice
I think what gets me are all the wingnuts who once defended Cosby because he was their ideal of what a black man “should be” and insisted that all his victims were “gold diggers” who will now insist they “always” knew he was guilty.
Conservatives only liked Cosby because he told young black men to pull up their pants. They only like black people that they can weaponize against other black people.
re: #168 dirkdigglerjr
From my previous research, the whole idea of the Electoral College came about as the Constitutional Convention was winding down. It was already well into summer, and folks wanted to get home. They knew Washington was going to be the president, and they figured the House would always pick the president because the big states would choose their favorite sons. They also figured the new Congress would sort out any problems.
They went through a few different ideas. One would have been a more parliamentary system where the president was chosen by the Congress (which, we sort of have as a back up), but then there were concerns about the independence of the branches. One was popular vote, but that ran into the same problem as representation in Congress did (slavery and how to count slaves). And so they sort of just settled on the electoral college as a least worst option - which in a lot of ways is what most of the constitution is.
re: #174 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I will be more humorless in any further discussion of the topic if you are having trouble with that.
Just be yourself. I’ll get used to it, or I will scroll on by.
re: #175 goddamnedfrank
Hence their current use of “diamond and silk” and Kanye.
re: #119 KGxvi
Hugh is all about Team Republican, in other words: he’s a fan. He just wants his team (whether it’s the Browns, Indians, Notre Dame, or the Republican Party) to win. He really is a nice guy, I never had a bad interaction with him in law school, and even my more liberal classmates liked him on a personal level. But he roots for his teams and there’s nothing he won’t spin as good news for them.
Lately his praise in Trump seems to be centered around the fact that Trump is packing courts with deep conservatives and how that is going to be Trump’s lasting legacy.
Ugh.
Yet, we all need to work together and stop all the partisanship.
re: #177 wrenchwench
Just be yourself. I’ll get used to it, or I will scroll on by.
Wasn’t that a Burt Bacharach/Dionne Warwick song?
re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Funny that Trump has broached something I agree with. I think that the EC should be kept on but kick in if no candidate gains a clear majority of the popular vote.
Otherwise we need a runoff system or a first-past the post. I could deal with the former but not the latter.
Trump and Bush would still have won under that criteria. Neither Clinton nor Gore got a clear majority of the popular vote, just clear pluralities.
I’d scrap the EC entirely and either just go with popular vote winner or top two run off.
re: #180 Blind Frog Belly White
Wasn’t that a Burt Bacharach/Dionne Warwick song?
Now updated for the more sedentary.
re: #178 lawhawk
Hence their current use of “diamond and silk” and Kanye.
Yep. Also why they made Michael Steel GOP chairman after Obama was elected.
For those not keeping track of Trump’s part-time job as a wrestling star:
WWE, whose Linda McMahon is in Trump’s cabinet, is being paid by the KSA to put on a giant show in the KSA tomorrow.
Women performers are not allowed and are staying home.
Apparently this is part of a multi-year deal between KSA and WWE.
The amount that the government of KSA is paying WWE is not yet public (though in the next quarterly FTC filings we’ll find out), but rumors:
Per sources: WWE are making in the region of $100-200M for #WWEGRR just for hosting the event.
— PWStream (@PWStream) April 25, 2018
I believe that total - $100M to $200M - is for the 10 year contract, not just the one show tomorrow. Some are reporting it is for one show, but I think that is wrong.
And supposedly WWE keeps all merchandise sales gross.
Whatever the contract amount per year, this makes the show the most profitable show in WWE history, larger than any of their big annual Wrestlemanias.
It’s mind-boggling-more money than any other wrestling show in history.
Now, my question: Does anyone believe WWE would have gotten this luxury contract if Linda McMahon was not in Trump’s cabinet?
re: #155 wrenchwench
That statement makes me think men are controlled by their hormones. Some of them. The ones who think that way.
Only the men under 60. Teenage boys are entirely controlled by hormones. That slowly changes as we age.
re: #181 goddamnedfrank
Trump and Bush would still have won under that criteria. Neither Clinton nor Gore got a clear majority of the popular vote, just clear pluralities.
I’d scrap the EC entirely and either just go with popular vote winner or top two run off.
I personally would have no problem with runoff elections, but I don’t know if our electoral system could handle it, not to mention our media election reporting system.
I am afraid we would suffer from a collective national meltdown…
re: #185 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Only the men under 60. Teenage boys are entirely controlled by hormones. That slowly changes as we age.
The most important part of parenting is getting kids through puberty. It takes a village.
WWE “gave” either $5 or $6 million to Trump’s “foundation” as charity (tax write off for the WWE corporation.)
Is this the payback? What’s the chance that Trump asked the King of SA to reward his friend Linda McMahon???
re: #155 wrenchwench
That statement makes me think men are controlled by their hormones. Some of them. The ones who think that way.
Humans are controlled by their hormones. Period.
It’s science.
What controls it is the brain and what the brain learns, believes and uses.
If a brain is present.
re: #177 wrenchwench
Just be yourself. I’ll get used to it, or I will scroll on by.
Sorry, I should not take the liberty of assuming that you are aware that I am fully in favor of women asserting their sexual freedom and their right to withdraw consent at any point.
That is part of what I meant when I said that the Sexual Revolution is still going on, there are things that we need to address.
I grew up learning that women are to be respected and protected and cannot imagine forcing myself on any woman who is not receptive.
There are a lot of outdated attitudes that still linger in our society and come out in strangely regressive ways whenever women try to speak out for their sexual and personal rights.
And the way that the concept of “consent” is seen by a lot of people scares me.
— Bodega Cats (@Bodegacats_) April 25, 2018
when u are in the 14 items or fewer line and the person in front of u has like 50 fuckin items in their shopping carthttps://t.co/4SyAYNPSs4
— darth™ (@darth) April 26, 2018
What about a bunch of bananas though darth, are those 1 item or 6?
— Andrew Caldwell (@AndrewBCaldwell) April 26, 2018
My browser was lagging bad, and I couldn’t figure out why. Then I noticed that I still had Raw Story open in a tab. Closed that tab and everything is back to normal.
That’s why I rarely click on any of their links. That site is an absolute resource hog.
The more we learn about Cohen, Trump, and their relationship, it’s as though Trump was an abusive spouse and Cohen took the abuse because he had no better options.
Trump humiliated Michael Cohen at his son’s bar mitzvah https://t.co/dE3yytMI88 pic.twitter.com/8qGJHo8SC4
— Jonathan Chait (@jonathanchait) April 26, 2018
And people wonder if Cohen’s going to flip? The question should be how quickly and how much Cohen knows beyond the case that we know thus far exists (Daniels NDA) to other real estate business and chicanery.
when u think it is chocolate chip but it is raisin pic.twitter.com/9EdPO5lS8d
— darth™ (@darth) April 26, 2018
re: #184 freetoken
Now, my question: Does anyone believe WWE would have gotten this luxury contract if Linda McMahon was not in Trump’s cabinet?
That’s tough to answer. The deal, from the Saudi side, is part of the Crown Prince’s Vision 2030 plan to modernize the country. So it’s possible that this happens either way. Especially since WWE has had shows in the region - there was a show in December in Abu Dhabi that included women competitors.
Perhaps there’s more money in the deal because Linda McMahon is a member of Trump’s cabinet. But that’s a risky gambit for a publicly traded company to take. Keep an eye out for the WWE’s FTC filings next month.
That said, most smarks don’t even seem to know the details of this contract. It was only announced last month and came together very quickly - with some suspicion that it altered the ending of at least one match at Wrestlemania.
Meanwhile, in the USA, Trump Admin announced today the end of temporary protected status (TPS) for Nepal, giving nearly 9,000 Nepalese citizens 12 months to leave the United States. https://t.co/vijYqFRlXi
— Bill Frelick (@BillFrelick) April 26, 2018
re: #159 Blind Frog Belly White
I’d say that in modern America, the connotative meaning of moralize is substantially negative.
That is lazy thinking. It does not change the word’s definitions.
I like words and all their definitions. And I try to never be a lazy thinker. That is what has got this country to this point.
Take “fake” as a word in the context of fake news. Are you prepared to allow the current connotative take on that word to be correct when it is so far from it?
(Cheap example, I know…but it gets to the point. Hello George Orwell)
re: #195 lawhawk
I am in awe of this description:
“… Trump alternates between rewarding Cohen for his canine loyalty and humiliating him for sport.”
re: #199 ObserverArt
That is lazy thinking. It does not change the word’s definitions.
I like words and all their definitions. And I try to never be a lazy thinker. That is what has got this country to this point.
Take “fake” as a word in the context of fake news. Are you prepared to allow the current connotative take on that word to be correct when it is so far from it?
(Cheap example, I know…but it gets to the point. Hello George Orwell)
“Entitlements”.
re: #189 freetoken
WWE “gave” either $5 or $6 million to Trump’s “foundation” as charity (tax write off for the WWE corporation.)
Is this the payback? What’s the chance that Trump asked the King of SA to reward his friend Linda McMahon???
That was always a screwy thing, especially since Trump didn’t receive any other sort of compensation for his appearances between 2007 and 2009. My guess is that was Trump trying to launder money in plain sight - especially since the Trump Foundation was always loose with its books.
re: #201 Blind Frog Belly White
To expand, words mean what people mean when they use them - connotative meaning - regardless of how the dictionary defines them - denotative meaning.
re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth
I gave my pet rat half of a chocolate chunk granola bar yesterday. Now he goes totally berserk when he sees me, trying to get my attention so he can get some more.
re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White
To expand, words mean what people mean when they use them - connotative meaning - regardless of how the dictionary defines them - denotative meaning.
and when I see them, I leave the discussion because all it can do at that point is chase its tail
re: #204 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
I gave my pet rat half of a chocolate chunk granola bar yesterday. Now he goes totally berserk when he sees me, trying to get my attention so he can get some more.
give him a raisin granola bar, he will calm down…
re: #204 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
I gave my pet rat half of a chocolate chunk granola bar yesterday. Now he goes totally berserk when he sees me, trying to get my attention so he can get some more.
rat version of crack, obviously.
re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth
I am in awe of this description:
You could substitute any of Trump’s associates in for Cohen and the dynamic would be the same. The man does not have friends, only victims.
re: #181 goddamnedfrank
Trump and Bush would still have won under that criteria. Neither Clinton nor Gore got a clear majority of the popular vote, just clear pluralities.
I’d scrap the EC entirely and either just go with popular vote winner or top two run off.
There are various forms of instant-runoff voting that would take care of this.
re: #198 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
[Meanwhile, in the USA, Trump Admin announced today the end of temporary protected status (TPS) for Nepal, giving nearly 9,000 Nepalese citizens 12 months to leave the United States.]
I have a friend who is doing his second tour of duty with the Peace Corps in Nepal. He’s planning to be home in June. I don’t think he wants to stay longer. He’s seventy.
re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth
rat version of crack, obviously.
They seem to have the same sense of taste as we do, which is probably why they get into our food and create famines.
re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth
rat version of crack, obviously.
I have long suspected that I am part rat.
re: #205 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
and when I see them, I leave the discussion because all it can do at that point is chase its tail
What - words?
re: #204 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
I gave my pet rat half of a chocolate chunk granola bar yesterday. Now he goes totally berserk when he sees me, trying to get my attention so he can get some more.
I’ve seen that TV show. It didn’t end very well for the cat.
re: #172 lawhawk
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Guess what. Cosby avoided justice for decades through a sense of entitlement.
He’s not entitled to any benefit of doubt as a now convicted felon.
The real Bill Cosby was revealed with that comment to the prosecutor.
Truth out!
re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
give him a raisin granola bar, he will calm down…
He’s my sweet little guy. I would never do that to him. Loose raisins are fine, raisins where you expect chocolate are evil.
Most people ruin oatmeal cookies with raisins. Chocolate chip oatmeal cookies are about as good as a cookie can get.
Move over, Cronut! The croissant taco has arrived in San Francisco. pic.twitter.com/VkLWZlYGwX
— Thrillist (@Thrillist) April 26, 2018
re: #212 wrenchwench
I have long suspected that I am part rat.
Do you grab food and run away with it to eat in private?
re: #209 petesh
There are various forms of instant-runoff voting that would take care of this.
I remember a paper a dozen or so years ago that showed that no form of election setup, not even instant runoff, can properly select peoples priorities in all cases.
re: #213 Blind Frog Belly White
What - words?
yes, when those connotative terms make their way into a discussion, I see no point in sticking around
re: #218 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Do you grab food and run away with it to eat in private?
only when we do not care to share…
re: #216 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
He’s my sweet little guy. I would never do that to him. Loose raisins are fine, raisins where you expect chocolate are evil.
Most people ruin oatmeal cookies with raisins. Chocolate chip oatmeal cookies are about as good as a cookie can get.
Why the fuck would anyone put chocolate chips in an oatmeal cookie? That’s what raisins are for. That, and rum raisin ice cream.
re: #218 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Do you grab food and run away with it to eat in private?
Every chance I get. But I carry water with me, since my dehydration episode.
Here’s Trump ranting about the fake news media while the Fox & Friends desperately try to get him to talk about something else. pic.twitter.com/yvWdfpeRc9
— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) April 26, 2018
Presidential. Childish snickering over idiotic nicknames. Trump’s infatuation w/ reporters he swears he doesn’t watch. Unhinged rants interrupted by a question about nuclear proliferation meetings w/ a lunatic dictator that currently seems more competent & controlled. #ThanksGOP https://t.co/JxVFJGqY7B
— Gaby Dow (@GabrielaDow) April 26, 2018
Ok I think it’s fair to say—listening to this—that the President of the United States is a hot mess right now. Also: ‘I don’t watch CNN but Anderson did a good job last night’. https://t.co/uKI4YHDPoC
— Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) April 26, 2018
re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #173 VegasGolfer
did not know this and not surprised.
White QB josh allen is a racist.
the most surprising point of the story is not that he is a racist, but that you should know to scrub your racist tweets before people find them and point them out to show who the person really is.
Yeah, I’ve been listening to some sports talk stuff today and that seems to be the take. I heard on guy locally say there should be software that allows you to go through your social media and clean it up.
He used the ‘young and dumb’ excuse too.
re: #223 wrenchwench
Every chance I get. But I carry water with me, since my dehydration episode.
I’ve never had a dehydration episode. More like a dehydration teaser at the start of an episode.
re: #227 Blind Frog Belly White
I’ve never had a dehydration episode. More like a dehydration teaser at the start of an episode.
I’m learning to pay attention to those.
Women, according to clipping files in the @chicagotribune archives pic.twitter.com/w0DVxAlGRp
— Kori Rumore Finley (@rumormill) April 26, 2018
re: #228 wrenchwench
I’m learning to pay attention to those.
When you’re prone to kidney stones, you think about water a lot.
Called into nearby @pizzahut to make big order. Arrived to pick it up. Mgr couldn’t find it. He asked employee abt it, & guy flat-out lied, says I had called to cancel. I walked out. Never again Pizza Hut! Incompetence is human, but lying to blame customer to cover one’s butt?!
— Rod Dreher (@roddreher) April 26, 2018
You have terrible taste in Pizza. You should be banned from setting foot in Italy.
— Ed Mix (@the_edwin_mix) April 26, 2018
re: #174 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I will be more humorless in any further discussion of the topic if you are having trouble with that.
I think you should just think about what Wrench said and take it to heart. She makes a good point.
I think you were being a bit whimsical with the past from the past male thinking and maybe using that as a bit of an excuse for the past.
It was never right even if it was common.
And face it, Wrench is a hell of a debater.
To celebrate the visit to the UK of Donald Trump, the Tripe Marketing Board is delighted to announce that we will be issuing STRICTLY LIMITED EDITION reproduction Trump wigs.
Available from all good tripe retailers from 1 July. #trumpvisit pic.twitter.com/3knacXpREm— Tripe Marketing Board (@TripeUK) April 26, 2018
Excellent article about conservative snowflakes
.@chick_in_kiev on wingnut snowflake sydrome. Good get, @villagevoice https://t.co/GVIbMqvvOl
— Roy Edroso (@edroso) April 26, 2018
re: #222 Blind Frog Belly White
Why the fuck would anyone put chocolate chips in an oatmeal cookie? That’s what raisins are for. That, and rum raisin ice cream.
Because it’s a million times better than raisins. Don’t knock it until you try it.
re: #137 goddamnedfrank
I’m in the camp that these things were always terrible and many if not most of us knew it at the time. The difference is that society as a whole was simply okay with being cruel to minorities and stereotyping them. I grew up with Asian American friends who were traumatized by the Long Duk Dong character in Sixteen Candles and the bullying it cosigned. I also remember thinking that the sex by deception scene in Revenge of the Nerds was rape.
So much this. A few things used to be ok and now aren’t - terms like colored or retarded. But it was never ok to pressure women into sex they didn’t want or make fun of people for their accent or refuse to let certain groups eat at your restaurant or beat up gay people. And I think we have a pretty good idea of what we are doing now that will be looked on with horror by future generations (again absent changes in terminology or custom).
re: #235 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
For my tastes, chocolate in oatmeal cookies is not so pleasant.
re: #232 ObserverArt
I think you should just think about what Wrench said and take it to heart. She makes a good point.
I think you were being a bit whimsical with the past from the past male thinking and maybe using that as a bit of an excuse for the past.
It was never right even if it was common.
And face it, Wrench is a hell of a debater.
Compliments will get you nowhere!
But you might get an upding.
re: #232 ObserverArt
I think you should just think about what Wrench said and take it to heart. She makes a good point.
I think you were being a bit whimsical with the past from the past male thinking and maybe using that as a bit of an excuse for the past.
It was never right even if it was common.
And face it, Wrench is a hell of a debater.
I did, read #192
re: #188 wrenchwench
The most important part of parenting is getting kids through puberty. It takes a village.
Or nuns!
I can attest to the nuns.
re: #235 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Because it’s a million times better than raisins. Don’t knock it until you try it.
You assume too much. I have tried them. They were an abomination. Jesus wept.
When I eat an oatmeal cookie, risking the calamitous flatulence oats cause me, I want fucking RAISINS!!!! the way the god I don’t believe in intended!!!!
re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth
That looks like the residue from one of the Alien face huggers.
re: #192 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I grew up learning that women are to be respected and protected and cannot imagine forcing myself on any woman who is not receptive.
So you now know that this is sexist, right? Women get to decide what they do because they are fullblown people, not because they are to be protected.
re: #239 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I did, read #192
That still came off as dismissive to me. You basically are sorry she was offended but it was because she was wrong about what you meant.
re: #243 Blind Frog Belly White
You assume too much. I have tried them. They were an abomination. Jesus wept.
When I eat an oatmeal cookie, risking the calamitous flatulence oats cause me, I want fucking RAISINS!!!! the way the god I don’t believe in intended!!!!
re: #237 freetoken
For my tastes, chocolate in oatmeal cookies is not so pleasant.
Some people are devoid of rat.
When grandpa’s telling the same stories again and you can’t get him off the phone pic.twitter.com/GfCAfksEJJ
— The Daily Show (@TheDailyShow) April 26, 2018
re: #243 Blind Frog Belly White
You assume too much. I have tried them. They were an abomination. Jesus wept.
When I eat an oatmeal cookie, risking the calamitous flatulence oats cause me, I want fucking RAISINS!!!! the way the god I don’t believe in intended!!!!
I assumed you were inexperienced, rather than deeply wrong. A raisin in a cookie is like pineapple on pizza.
re: #243 Blind Frog Belly White
Imagine how you’d feel if someone put oatmeal in your chocolate chip cookie.
re: #242 wrenchwench
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re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White
To expand, words mean what people mean when they use them - connotative meaning - regardless of how the dictionary defines them - denotative meaning.
And, how did I use the word? I’m a people.
; )
re: #251 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
I assumed you were inexperienced, rather than deeply wrong. A raisin in a cookie is like pineapple on pizza.
The hell you say! Linking me to those foul heretics!
Did he have too much Provigil this morning when he called in to Fox or not enough?
— Ed Mix (@the_edwin_mix) April 26, 2018
re: #254 ObserverArt
And, how did I use the word? I’m a people.
; )
Yes, but you are not ALL people.
Though I assume you are all people, that is, not partly anything else.
re: #255 Blind Frog Belly White
The hell you say! Linking me to those foul heretics!
If you don’t want to be linked to them, don’t put fruit where it does not belong.
re: #245 Charmingly Persistent
So you now know that this is sexist, right? Women get to decide what they do because they are fullblown people, not because they are to be protected.
Then “protected” is perhaps not the best term if it implies a certain superior position. In any case, they are not to be harassed or molested in any way. And please note from the rest of my comment that I am fully in favor of women asserting their personal and sexual rights.
Example: I just ate a Hostess cupcake for breakfast.
— John Dingell (@JohnDingell) April 26, 2018
Naps are okay, but I thought I hid the cupcakes. Yogurt > Hostess. https://t.co/kNHn6sWbIA
— Rep. Debbie Dingell (@RepDebDingell) April 26, 2018
re: #253 freetoken
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re: #259 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
If you don’t want to be linked to them, don’t put fruit where it does not belong.
Hey, at least I don’t put prunes in stew, like Russians do.
re: #263 wrenchwench
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re: #248 Charmingly Persistent
That still came off as dismissive to me. You basically are sorry she was offended but it was because she was wrong about what you meant.
I was trying to apologize for taking liberties in assuming that she knew where I stood without having clarified my position first.
re: #257 gocart mozart
That would explain why he seems sharp at times. Modafinil is very effective at improving focus.
— Jeff “We call BS” Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) April 26, 2018
The stuff really works to make a person temporarily more capable. I would not want to be addicted to it, since you’d probably become a zombie when not on it. It would explain the way Trump fades at times.
Can’t wait to see Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson and the whole Fox News crew - who convulsed in pearl-clutching horror when Obama invited Common to the White House - celebrate these non-Trump-related words by Kanye: pic.twitter.com/OZ7LEEE2H4
— Rex Huppke (@RexHuppke) April 26, 2018
re: #268 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
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The stuff really works to make a person temporarily more capable. I would not want to be addicted to it, since you’d probably become a zombie when not on it. It would explain the way Trump fades at times.
Christ, you mean that the still-abysmally-awful Best-Of-Trump is only possible with chemical intervention? That’s depressing.
re: #239 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I did, read #192
I had not worked my way down the thread before I made my post. Sorry, I am one that tries to read the thread as I go…so I often get behind.
re: #242 wrenchwench
I miss Decatur Deb.
Me too. As with many others. I find it kind of odd that Deb just dropped out. I hope he comes back around.
This one is going to make an impact. Help us fund next one https://t.co/Ebdiejc8wy pic.twitter.com/newB8NkZHh
— Claude Taylor (@TrueFactsStated) April 26, 2018
you realize that Russia is no longer communist, the hammer and sickle is no longer part of their flag and Putin is a right wing fascist? The “Red’ baiting is stupid and counter productive and undercuts your argument against the orange choad fascist.
— Ed Mix (@the_edwin_mix) April 26, 2018
When we’re almost about to control the world, someone’s going to bring in a Hawaiian pizza and chocolate chip oatmeal cookies, and we’ll tear each other apart.
uhhhhh
Paul Ryan just fired the House chaplain, who had prayed that lawmakers ensure the benefits of the tax law are “balanced and shared by all Americans.” (They did not.) https://t.co/qsGpy8VmiQ
— Topher Spiro (@TopherSpiro) April 26, 2018
I gotta go test ride a bike. Then go to the dentist.
Later, lizards.
re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth
uhhhhh
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Conroy eh? Maybe a distant cousin of mine. Screw Ryan.
re: #271 Blind Frog Belly White
Christ, you mean that the still-abysmally-awful Best-Of-Trump is only possible with chemical intervention? That’s depressing.
I’m afraid so. I haven’t had any in a long time, but the stuff will make a dullard passable as a smart person, and a smart person very-smart. Trump’s probably addicted to the stuff, which would explain how he mentally collapses at times.
re: #275 gocart mozart
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Today’s mandatory 30-second mental exercise for all GOP House and Senate members. Ask: why left/media so focused on destroying certain Trump officials —Pruitt, Mulvaney, Zinke. Answer: Because they are most effective reformers. Remember: Support is how to reward that courage.
— Kimberley Strassel (@KimStrassel) April 26, 2018
Or, and I’m just spitballing here, it’s because they’re corrupt assholes. https://t.co/djeB9boi4X
— The Rude Pundit (@rudepundit) April 26, 2018
re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth
Congrats: you’re backing a bunch of corrupt and criminal cronies who are busy sabotaging functioning government and redistributing wealth to rich and the burdens to everyone else.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) April 26, 2018
re: #258 Blind Frog Belly White
Yes, but you are not ALL people.
Though I assume you are all people, that is, not partly anything else.
You are a determined cuss aren’t you?!
I understand what you mean. But really I find the simplification of words tragic.
It’s like buying the Crayola 88 color box of crayons and they are all grey.
All of the old authors and poets of the classics are spinning in their graves.
You really can’t understand that it’s corruption and incompetence that’s the problem, not tricksy leftists controlling the media, which tends to be owned by wealthy Conservatives? Corruption is not courage.
— Jeff “We call BS” Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) April 26, 2018
re: #276 Belafon
When we’re almost about to control the world, someone’s going to bring in a Hawaiian pizza and chocolate chip oatmeal cookies, and we’ll tear each other apart.
Well, they are different levels of sins.
Chocolate chips in oatmeal cookies are mere venial sins.
Pineapple on pizza, though… well, that’s one of the unforgivable sins.
Descriptions of the death of net neutrality often get dismissed as hyperbole, but @MarshaBlackburn, the telecom’s biggest advocate in the Senate, actually suggested dividing the internet into fast and slow lanes. Used TSA pre-check as an example.https://t.co/Yw32xyKAxi
— Kevin Collier (@kevincollier) April 26, 2018
The Republican plan to make the Internet more like the airport. https://t.co/ASz1Z9RXuX
— David Carroll 🦅 (@profcarroll) April 26, 2018
And why the fuck would ANYBODY think that would be a good idea? https://t.co/h25T1CKU4q
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) April 26, 2018
*blink*
MICHAEL COHEN once bragged at a wedding that he was part of the Russian mob. The groom didn’t believe him. https://t.co/pQsoX15N1E
— Kenneth P. Vogel (@kenvogel) April 26, 2018
re: #288 freetoken
Well, they are different levels of sins.
Chocolate chips in oatmeal cookies are mere venial sins.
Pineapple on pizza, though… well, that’s one of the unforgivable sins.
I feel like if you were freetokin’ rather than freetoken, you’d have more appreciation for chocolate oatmeal cookies.
re: #274 ObserverArt
Me too. As with many others. I find it kind of odd that Deb just dropped out. I hope he comes back around.
anybody know what happened?
re: #194 makeitstop
My browser was lagging bad, and I couldn’t figure out why. Then I noticed that I still had Raw Story open in a tab. Closed that tab and everything is back to normal.
That’s why I rarely click on any of their links. That site is an absolute resource hog.
Yep. They have at least 2 auto-run videos loading at the same time.
re: #293 Sir John Barron
anybody know what happened?
I don’t think there is a known reason. He just put up an image and a short message as his last post and that was it.
Trump snowflake loses court battle.
“A Manhattan judge ruled Wednesday that there’s nothing “outrageous” about throwing the president’s supporters out of bars — because the law doesn’t protect against political discrimination.
Philadelphia accountant Greg Piatek, 31, was bounced from a West Village watering hole in January 2017, just after Trump took the oath of office, for wearing a “Make America Great Again” cap, according to his lawsuit over the incident.
“Anyone who supports Trump — or believes in what you believe — is not welcome here! And you need to leave right now because we won’t serve you!” Piatek claims the staff of The Happiest Hour on West 10th Street told him after he and his pals complained about the rude service they were getting from a bartender.”
The most offensive to me was the part where this moron wore his maga hat to the 9/11 memorial to “honor” the victims. As if the victims would all be trump supporters.
Hope they make him pay the court costs for the trial.
re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth
The thing is, it actually all makes sense. If you don’t think government can be a force for good in people’s lives, that it’s something you have to fight against, it makes perfect sense to use it to make yourself rich.
You realise you’re referencing the Sun newspaper right? I’m guessing someone as well informed as you understand the recent history of the Sun newspaper? Hacking voicemails to murdered school girls etc.? I’m sure the guy was troubled but I wouldn’t believe a word the Sun reported
— Harry Horsley (@harryhorsley) April 26, 2018
and as if she even has the first clue as to who he was…
re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth
that….doesn’t sound half bad actually.
Explosion that injured 11 at Wisconsin oil refinery forces the evacuation of homes, schools and a hospital. https://t.co/daHpTshtDP pic.twitter.com/hD38B0R7JO
— AP Central U.S. (@APCentralRegion) April 26, 2018
“Disgraced CBS anchor Charlie Rose is being slated to star in a show where he’ll interview other high-profile men who have also been toppled by #MeToo scandals.” https://t.co/OKUrim3SV6
— Dana Rubinstein (@danarubinstein) April 26, 2018
You guys don’t seem to understand.
We’re done with you.
You don’t get a comeback.
It’s over.
Maybe Charlie Rose and Matt Lauer can start a knitting club.
You know, like folks told Hillary to do.
First rule of knitting club: stay the fuck off my TV.https://t.co/MqQNJRBTd0— Holly Figueroa O’Reilly 🌊 BWCS (@AynRandPaulRyan) April 26, 2018
how on earth did somebody in Tuscany make this recording of my cat this morning????
No Words…🐱😟♥️ pic.twitter.com/sEeZ5LtD3w
— Stefano S. Magi (@StefanodocSM) April 26, 2018
re: #285 ObserverArt
You are a determined cuss aren’t you?!
I understand what you mean. But really I find the simplification of words tragic.
It’s like buying the Crayola 88 color box of crayons and they are all grey.
All of the old authors and poets of the classics are spinning in their graves.
Dude - I’m off work for a couple days. Determined to do nothing of consequence. What could be less consequential than arguing trivial points with people with whom you’re in nearly complete agreement?
But really, I feel like insisting on denotative meaning without accounting for connotative meaning is simplification of words. Language is a living thing, it changes as people use it to express their ideas and as those ideas run into other ideas.
Sometimes, it can drive you batty, like when people get angry about the word ‘Entitlements’ being applied to Medicare and Social Security. But that’s now language is.
“Moralizing”, in the minds of most people, means the kind of hypocritical, holier-than-thou preaching that characterized Cosby’s “Pull Up Your Pants” speeches. OTOH, The Cosby Show presented a black family that was affluent, middle class, intact, and yet not simply a white family in blackface. Exemplifying, not moralizing.
Admiral Ronny Jackson’ll be reassigned and quietly retire.
He’ll collect his full pension and he’ll be entitled to VA health benefits.
Meanwhile, soldiers and sailors who suffered from undiagnosed PTSD and abused alcohol, they were kicked out.
No retirements. No healthcare.— The Warax (@iAmTheWarax) April 26, 2018
This is the reality of the military justice system. Servicemembers are held to a higher standard while their leaders get away with murder. There must be stronger accounability of officers in the armed forces. Otherwise, their troops will (and have) suffer. This is not justice. https://t.co/os8BeZxKWF
— Dan Spohnholtz (@dspohnholtz) April 26, 2018
meanwhile in Kentucky:
Pike County’s treasurer failed to deposit $1 million in checks for months https://t.co/zLBk9Urznx @HLWright @report4america pic.twitter.com/kmS2UjPFbu
— heraldleader (@heraldleader) April 26, 2018
“I have just had a lot of personal issues and also a little bit of medical issues,” she said. https://t.co/XqxKa32wK1
— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) April 26, 2018
lots of “economic anxiety” in lily-white coal country…
re: #266 freetoken
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The rule of law matters.
High crimes and misdemeanors matter. Trump’s done both. It’s a laundry list: emoluments clause violations, obstruction of justice, lying to FBI/Congress, campaign finance violations, mishandling classified info, etc.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) April 26, 2018
Stormy Daniels lawyer thanks “Fox & Friends” for bringing Trump on to make “hugely damaging” admissions https://t.co/TZIYY3NIAZ pic.twitter.com/vH6Y6maMmX
— The Hill (@thehill) April 26, 2018
Dear @realDonaldTrump: Can you please go on Fox & Friends once a week and rant? Let America hear your unfiltered self on live TV. It’s exciting and helps Dems. Thanks. https://t.co/J7mUTx2y7s
— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) April 26, 2018
Staring at boobs is just one of six easy ways men can live longer https://t.co/CpVekvkIKC pic.twitter.com/sNxotsuYmn
— New York Post (@nypost) April 25, 2018
Turtle neck all year round.. lets wipe em out. https://t.co/yteQEBzYja
— Mr KTD (@daddisaurus) April 25, 2018
Trump: “Our Justice Department, which I try to stay away from, but pretty soon I won’t.”
— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) April 26, 2018
Not every day that the president threatens to obstruct justice live on national television. https://t.co/nEBHFa2sEx
— Matthew Miller (@matthewamiller) April 26, 2018
re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth
I think this Charlie Rose obstinance goes to some of the earlier discussion around here today about men and women and sexual pressure, etc.
No matter what we are taught, or learn, some people are just going to do what they want and then they will later makes excuses for it.
re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth
It may seem like an inconvenience or an invasion of privacy to many women, but staring at boobs creates a positive mindset in men.
The same effect occurs when they look at cute animals.
Furries will outlive us all.
Need a smile this morning? Watch Trump’s Fox & Friends interview with the sound OFF. Seeing those three, vapid, groveling sycophants fidget & squirm, as if slowly, finally, realizing that the product they sell is defective? Waiter, more! pic.twitter.com/rD6C9lHMIM
— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@BettyBowers) April 26, 2018
re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth
It’s here that I will point out that the owner of the NYPost also owns Page3, a pioneer in bringing boobs to the masses of British tabloid readers.
But don’t dare bring that up to the religious right con-artists being employed by Fox News.
re: #308 lawhawk
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re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth
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No surprise there. Can’t let house members be reminded of what Christ actually teaches. They might accidentally do the right thing rather than what their billionaire bosses tell them to do.
Last one was rammed by a Dodge Dart. A Dodge Demon would really have lit up the fundies but they are kind of rare these days.
Arkansas has installed a new Ten Commandments monument at its capitol — and it’s already facing potential legal challenges. https://t.co/82csm3UbAQ
— NPR (@NPR) April 26, 2018
re: #304 Blind Frog Belly White
Dude - I’m off work for a couple days. Determined to do nothing of consequence. What could be less consequential than arguing trivial points with people with whom you’re in nearly complete agreement?
But really, I feel like insisting on denotative meaning without accounting for connotative meaning is simplification of words. Language is a living thing, it changes as people use it to express their ideas and as those ideas run into other ideas.
Sometimes, it can drive you batty, like when people get angry about the word ‘Entitlements’ being applied to Medicare and Social Security. But that’s now language is.
“Moralizing”, in the minds of most people, means the kind of hypocritical, holier-than-thou preaching that characterized Cosby’s “Pull Up Your Pants” speeches. OTOH, The Cosby Show presented a black family that was affluent, middle class, intact, and yet not simply a white family in blackface. Exemplifying, not moralizing.
I know you know what I mean. We are not out speaking to most people. This is an intelligent board with good solid discussion.
You are not wrong, but that doesn’t make it right. (Hows that for word usage?)
I hope you don’t think I am wrong, because that is the box of grey crayons.
How about I go to the root of the word I was using. That would be moral.
And the definition of that (should you accept) is: concerned with the principles of right and wrong behavior and the goodness or badness of human character.
Is that not exactly what The Cosby Show was exemplifying and what it wanted to achieve? Were not Cosby and Poussaint teaching good behavior and character?
And with that…I am done for the evening. I have some woodwork to strip the last bits of paint off of…then watch the Cleveland Browns select in the NFL draft.
Good discussion. Well, I hope you see it that way.
And I will never give up my full 88 colors! Or, my definitions. They are all still in the dictionaries even if people don’t use dictionaries anymore?
oh, ok…next question…
WATCH: EPA Chief Scott Pruitt blames his staff for the decision to put a $43,000 phone booth in his office.
“I was not involved in the approval of $43,000 and if I’d known about it … I would have refused it.” pic.twitter.com/8hhcUMLJtW— MSNBC (@MSNBC) April 26, 2018
re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I really don’t know why they’re acting surprised. He’s not saying anything that is new or different, he’s every bit as crazy as he’s ever been. They might feel uncomfortable hearing it said out loud, but his fans are lapping it up and asking for seconds.
re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth
oh, ok…next question…
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“And I never questioned why it was there, the need for it, the cost of it, or who approved it since I totally know I didn’t do that. I’m just so busy cornholing our nation’s environmental laws that I can’t be bothered with the little stuff.”
Most interesting fact from today’s hearing IMO - FBI imaged 16 (by my count) cell phones and blackberries seized in MC raids. Usually not a good sign when the target appears to have saved old phones and there are that many phones recovered. BIGLY bad…for many. #basta
— Michael Avenatti (@MichaelAvenatti) April 26, 2018
An explosion just tore through a Wisconsin refinery just hours after Republican lawmakers took turns asking EPA administrator Scott Pruitt to relax regulations on refineries. https://t.co/Evb8HQMdZj
— Alexander Kaufman (@AlexCKaufman) April 26, 2018
re: #281 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
I’m afraid so. I haven’t had any in a long time, but the stuff will make a dullard passable as a smart person, and a smart person very-smart. Trump’s probably addicted to the stuff, which would explain how he mentally collapses at times.
You’d think he’d lose weight.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Kim Jong Un’s doctor insists he is 155 lbs pic.twitter.com/LEMMi9DhuS
— Roland Scahill (@rolandscahill) April 26, 2018
re: #328 Stanley Sea
You’d think he’d lose weight.
Not with his diet.
That *might* be enough to hold him at neutral. Possibly.
Michael Cohen told associates in 2016 he expected to be named W.H. chief of staff, sources tell WSJ. Trump thought he carried too many risks, has privately described Cohen as a “bull in a china shop,” who when brought in to fix a problem breaks more china.https://t.co/keVdK1RDj1
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) April 26, 2018
re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth
how on earth did somebody in Tuscany make this recording of my cat this morning????
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I’d have gone out to the fish monger and brought him home a tuna. And a salmon. And a trout. And a prime rib roast.
That face. SWOOOOOOOON!!!!!
re: #315 Blind Frog Belly White
It may seem like an inconvenience or an invasion of privacy to many women, but staring at boobs creates a positive mindset in men.
Um, isn’t the logical response to get someone who would LIKE you staring at their boobs?
re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth
oh, ok…next question…
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Yes, because employees would randomly decide to put something that specific in the boss’s office. Or did it go like this:
Pruitt: I’d really, really, really hate it if someone installed a super cool phone booth in my office. Now…I’m going to be gone for a few days. I’m going to leave the door open. Absolutely DO NOT use my absence as the opportunity to install a really cool phone booth in my office.
That has really gotta sting: You spend months boasting you’re gonna be the next Chief of Staff, and instead you get left behind while Javanka (who hate your guts) get high-level jobs and CoS goes to a party lackey.
It’s pretty rare to see the Senate Ethics Committee give out any type of punishment. This Public Letter of Admonition to Senator Menendez is the harshest thing they’ve done in years. https://t.co/l8pdHgjHQd pic.twitter.com/HXw302dJZK
— Citizens for Ethics (@CREWcrew) April 26, 2018
raisins
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salad pic.twitter.com/iXDgiOcxrs— darth™ (@darth) April 20, 2018
Now @Elliott_Broidy has to come out and say, “NO! I PAID FOR THAT ABORTION!”
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) April 26, 2018
re: #53 MsJ
And where there’s an active independence movement going on? Way to strengthen ties with England….
As I am 95 years old, I know what fascism looks like that’s why when Donald Trump comes to visit Britain, I’ll be out on the streets protesting because his politics is the same politics as Mussolini and Hitler’s. #FridayThe13th pic.twitter.com/qvsSZrrUKO
— Harry Leslie Smith (@Harryslaststand) April 26, 2018
Mike Pompeo’s confirmation as Secretary of State is a MAJOR win for Trumphttps://t.co/uVOf7AfjZk pic.twitter.com/2MddagvfsW
— Chris Cillizza (@CillizzaCNN) April 26, 2018
First time in US history that a President getting his Sec State confirmed by a Senate his party controls has been a “MAJOR win.” #LowBar. Giving everyone health care? Passing an infrastructure plan? THOSE are major wins. Replacing the guy you fired? Not so much…. https://t.co/iWs6qwGcTD
— Ronald Klain (@RonaldKlain) April 26, 2018
“You gotta lay down the law or else they make a fool out of you. I write it all down in this book. Every fucking nickle goes down in this book”https://t.co/W3NBeNEk07
— Ed Mix (@the_edwin_mix) April 26, 2018
re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth
meanwhile in Kentucky:
heraldleader✔
Pike County’s treasurer failed to deposit $1 million in checks for months …
Developing - Michigan judge strikes down state law appropriating money to private schools to cover the cost of state mandates. Says it’s unconstitutional #mileg
— David Eggert (@DavidEggert00) April 26, 2018
In Memoriam: R.I.P. Charles Neville, founding member of the Neville Brothers https://t.co/cCNGTEbq2B
— JamBase (@JamBase) April 26, 2018
CAN THE NEWS JUST FUCKIN SLOW DOWN FOR A SECOND HERE pic.twitter.com/EZBojvjaYT
— darth™ (@darth) April 26, 2018
if u want to know how long this thursday news day has been so far this is me this morning and me now pic.twitter.com/Ol1lJjyv0l
— darth™ (@darth) April 26, 2018
ARE WE DONE WITH ALL THE NEWS TODAY ARE WE pic.twitter.com/A1hgwyF8M1
— darth™ (@darth) April 26, 2018
— Matthew Prorok (@MJtheProphet) April 26, 2018
A new study confirms that support for Trump was driven by white fears, not economic anxiety https://t.co/zt4987pwVh pic.twitter.com/TBXDyc6e2C
— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) April 26, 2018
In other news, water has been found to be moist. https://t.co/dJYHFlMpnP
— Liberal Librarian (@Lib_Librarian) April 26, 2018
re: #47 Dr Lizardo
In this case, it’s at least believable. Look at Trump…..I’d reckon he weighs in at well over 250 so saying he’s at 289 is probably pretty damn close to the truth.
Yeah, and probably serious hypertension as well. Lack of exercise, poor diet, etc.
It’s not lack of exercise. It’s saving energy! //
re: #358 GlutenFreeJesus
It’s not lack of exercise. It’s saving dragon energy! //
Ronny Jackson also took the fifth today but it was scotch.
— Ed Mix (@the_edwin_mix) April 25, 2018
Basically Trump got elected because too many of my fellow white men are whiny little shits who think they’re owed power for being white males.
.@RepAnnaEshoo to @EPAScottPruitt at hearing today re: his travel costs “With all due respect I may be elected but I’m not a fool. That’s really a lousy answer” @KQEDnews
— Ted Goldberg (@TedrickG) April 26, 2018
re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth
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“Do you have any remorse for the excessive spending?” Rep. Anna Eshoo asks Pruitt https://t.co/T3jX4baSO3 pic.twitter.com/2DKtOkg2C2
— POLITICO (@politico) April 26, 2018
re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Yeah the foxes in the hen house problem will be solved by the foxes!
William Keebler, the leader of a Utah anti-government militia group accused of trying to detonate an explosive at a remote Bureau of Land Management cabin two years ago, pleaded guilty in federal court Thursday https://t.co/XVwccr2vwM
— The Salt Lake Tribune (@sltrib) April 26, 2018
Bundy / Finicum supporter Bill Keebler pleads guilty to trying to bomb a Bureau of Land Management building. https://t.co/KBe7e1iIkO
— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) April 26, 2018
Terrorist. pic.twitter.com/BnqqZLjDKb
— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) April 26, 2018
I’ve never been ashamed to be a white man but I’ve never ever thought something was owed to be for being a white man.
re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I’m guessing nobody told him how he won.
He still thinks millions voted illegally.
Daily Beast Suspends Joy Reid Column: ‘We’re Going to Hit Pause’https://t.co/DghOC4kT1R
— Andie the Obamanista (@TheObamanista) April 26, 2018
Allan Brauer suspends reading and sharing content from @thedailybeast that is not authored by @JoyAnnReid. Bye! https://t.co/FS7kmkAm7l
— Allan Brauer (@allanbrauer) April 26, 2018
Presto! Trump campaign now fundraising off the Kanye tweets. This text to supporters links to campaign MAGA hats for sale. pic.twitter.com/BNnmdD7paZ
— Julie Bykowicz (@bykowicz) April 26, 2018
“And a white man get paid offa all of that.” —Kanye West https://t.co/d2FVSZAA4L
— Adam Serwer 🍝 (@AdamSerwer) April 26, 2018
re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth
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No one is attacking Kanye. We’re laughing at him. And it’s nice you think a black guy can have an opinion after he said something nice about Trump but don’t he dare call out police brutality.
re: #336 jeffreyw
You are dead to me.
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Chocolate chip raisin coconut peanut butter oatmeal cookies are da bomb.
Oh Jesus. Coconut?
Calling it a night. Good wishes to all, To all a good night.
re: #322 ObserverArt
I know you know what I mean. We are not out speaking to most people. This is an intelligent board with good solid discussion.
You are not wrong, but that doesn’t make it right. (Hows that for word usage?)
I hope you don’t think I am wrong, because that is the box of grey crayons.
How about I go to the root of the word I was using. That would be moral.
And the definition of that (should you accept) is: concerned with the principles of right and wrong behavior and the goodness or badness of human character.
Is that not exactly what The Cosby Show was exemplifying and what it wanted to achieve? Were not Cosby and Poussaint teaching good behavior and character?
And with that…I am done for the evening. I have some woodwork to strip the last bits of paint off of…then watch the Cleveland Browns select in the NFL draft.
Good discussion. Well, I hope you see it that way.
And I will never give up my full 88 colors! Or, my definitions. They are all still in the dictionaries even if people don’t use dictionaries anymore?
Of course it’s a good discussion. And in the end, we’re arguing about a trivial point within a larger agreement.
Coincidentally, i took a break as you were typing this, to go to the bench and take down the newly-received Hamilton 992b movement I was describing the other day. It’s one of Hamilton’s last two pocket watch movements. The quality is amazing. It’s a pleasure to work on.
Mind you, I might change my mind if the damn thing gives me any problems….