Donald Trump Tries to Excuse His Disgraceful Behavior by Posting a Video Clip of Hillary — From Russian State TV

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Still obsessing over Hillary Clinton, our so-called president tried to divert attention from his treasonous behavior in Helsinki by posting an unattributed video clip of his nemesis talking about the desirability of good relations with Russia.

The video clip was originally recorded two years before Vladimir Putin became the leader of Russia. So sure, it’s deceptive, as usual. But that’s not the most grotesque part of this.

Look at the logo at upper right. The clip Trump tweeted is actually from a program on Russian state television, Channel One.

For reference, here’s the same logo in another clip from Channel One’s YouTube channel.

(h/t: Teukka.)

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403 comments
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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 12:51:53pm

Trump is on different from the Ukrainian puppet that Putin used to have his hand underneath.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2018 • 12:52:39pm

RT to the rescue. Again. With an assist from America Today (Faux).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2018 • 12:53:08pm

Welcome to the new media reality

it grows more intolerable every day

I am glad to be an expatriate and not exposed to this on a permanent basis, or it would warp my mind irrevocably

is that their long-term goal?

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Teukka  Jul 19, 2018 • 12:55:23pm

Twitter thread. For reference.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 12:56:33pm

Stable genius

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Dr. Matt  Jul 19, 2018 • 12:56:39pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2018 • 12:57:44pm

re: #5 jaunte

Stable genius

Which by the way had really yuuuuuuuuge ratings when I ran the show. Just like my approval ratings, Very high.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 12:57:58pm

re: #5 jaunte

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Stable genius

This is the same goat fucker who ran claiming the economy was in terrible shape. Sorry Dumbass but economies don’t work the way you and your cult think they do. The only reason you haven’t completely fallen flat is because Obama gifted you his economy that you’re slowly fucking with your economic illiteracy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 12:58:02pm

re: #5 jaunte

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Stable genius

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 12:59:29pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2018 • 12:59:29pm

re: #8 HappyWarrior

This is the same goat fucker who ran claiming the economy was in terrible shape. Sorry Dumbass but economies don’t work the way you and your cult think they do. The only reason you haven’t completely fallen flat is because Obama gifted you his economy that you’re slowly fucking with your economic illiteracy.

As long as he is allowed to make hollow, baseless and subjective claims without being called out on them, he will continue unabated.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:00:03pm

re: #10 jaunte

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If he does, count me in for a protest of Vlad and the Dotard both.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:00:18pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

HO-LEEE-SHI——

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Teukka  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:00:22pm

re: #4 Teukka

Twitter thread. For reference.

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Начало эфира Первого канала (16.08.2011) / Channel One Russia Opening

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:00:44pm

re: #11 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As long as he is allowed to make hollow, baseless and subjective claims without being called out on them, he will continue unabated.

Yeah, no shit. That’s why it needs to be called out by everyone. Don’t let Trump get away with claiming Obama’s successes as his own. He has no successes.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:01:44pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He has a child’s understanding of the military.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:01:49pm

re: #10 jaunte

Wherever those two are together, the audience size should be measured in decibels.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:02:25pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

Yeah, no shit. That’s why it needs to be called out by everyone. Don’t let Trump get away with claiming Obama’s successes as his own. He has no successes.

Just call him out for making totally vapid and hollow claims about how great things are and how he is the best or whatever…they have no meaning at all and do not deserve to be repeated except to point out how hollow and meaningless they truly are.

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:02:39pm

“Judge” Pirro meets Ana Navarro and Whoopi. It goes pretty much just how you’d expect.

Whoopi Goldberg abruptly ends Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro interview after screaming match:‘I’m done’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:03:31pm

re: #14 Teukka

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Putin wasn’t even president then.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:03:50pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:03:58pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

He has a child’s understanding of the military.

On the plus side, we can save money during his Military Extavaganza by pointing to an empty sky and telling him a full squadron of F35s is doing a flyover.

“But I can’t hear anything!”

“That’s Stealth Technology, Mr. President!”

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:05:43pm

re: #19 makeitstop

Pirro is a crazy person with garbage in her head. Some of these shows are going to have to restrain their need for spectacle, just as a public service.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:05:52pm
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Teukka  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:05:58pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

Putin wasn’t even president then.

Yes, “Prime Minister”…

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:06:45pm

re: #22 Blind Frog Belly White

On the plus side, we can save money during his Military Extavaganza by pointing to an empty sky and telling him a full squadron of F35s is doing a flyover.

“But I can’t hear anything!”

“That’s Stealth Technology, Mr. President!”

“We’ve even got a plane for you, Mr. President. Right over here.”
“But I can’t see it.”
“It’s right in front of you. Let me show you how to get into the cockpit.”
- The Emperors New Jet

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:06:54pm

re: #21 jaunte

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HRC has stood up to Trump far more than Bernie has before or since.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:07:57pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

Putin wasn’t even president then.

A “strong Russia” also means one with strong democratic institutions, something not particularly present there right now

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:07:57pm

re: #22 Blind Frog Belly White

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:08:05pm

re: #23 jaunte

Pirro is a crazy person with garbage spiders and squirrels in her head. Some of these shows are going to have to restrain their need for spectacle, just as a public service.

FTFY

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:08:22pm

re: #28 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A “strong Russia” also means one with strong democratic institutions, something not particularly present there right now

Which is what she was getting at.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:09:08pm

The people who posted weird worshiping photos of Putin 4 years ago now believe that Trump is “tough” on Russia.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:09:18pm

Seeing this, I’m reminded of Mark Levin’s little rant on Faux Tuesday night, going on about past instances where US leaders played nice with Soviet ones. The fucker reached all the way back to the Yalta Conference to claim that Trump fellating Putin was totally with precedent and Democrats should shut up about it.

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SteelPH  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:10:07pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

The people who posted weird worshiping photos of Putin 4 years ago now believe that Trump is “tough” on Russia.

While still worshiping Putin.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:10:36pm

re: #29 Unshaken Defiance

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HA! Like Zim and the Megadoomer…

“Wait, you can’t see it, but you can see ME? That’s stupid!”
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:10:38pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:11:02pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

He has a child’s understanding of the military.

FTFY

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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:11:04pm

re: #25 Teukka

From the top:

(h/t: Teukka.)

Good job! Thanks.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:11:18pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

Seeing this, I’m reminded of Mark Levin’s little rant on Faux Tuesday night, going on about past instances where US leaders played nice with Soviet ones. The fucker reached all the way back to the Yalta Conference to claim that Trump fellating Putin was totally with precedent and Democrats should shut up about it.

The same Yalta Conference that nearly every Republican has criticized since it happened. It’s one thing to make nice. It’s another to do what Trump did and that stupid Trump fucker Levin knows it. But go ahead Mark, champion a regime that loves fermenting hate against the Jewish people, you dumb schmuck.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:11:27pm

re: #34 SteelPH

While still worshiping Putin.

Yep!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:11:39pm

re: #37 Sir John Barron

FTFY

Yep.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:11:47pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:12:27pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

Seeing this, I’m reminded of Mark Levin’s little rant on Faux Tuesday night, going on about past instances where US leaders played nice with Soviet ones. The fucker reached all the way back to the Yalta Conference to claim that Trump fellating Putin was totally with precedent and Democrats should shut up about it.

Marriage of necessity, though like Trump, Roosevelt seemed a little too enamoured of his counterpart.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:12:57pm

re: #42 jaunte

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Hopefully some Republican congressmen will be dumb enough to meet Vlad and get their picture taken with him. If Rubio can primary Crist based on a hug to Obama, then we can defeat Republicans being chummy with Vlad.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:13:03pm

So Putin will review the troops with Trump?

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:13:16pm

re: #42 jaunte

Putin: I have an idea. Let’s show up on election day, and draw all of the Democrats to Washington. Then they won’t be able to vote.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:14:19pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:14:24pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

The people who posted weird worshiping photos of Putin 4 years ago now believe that Trump is “tough” on Russia.

Oh, they still love him, only now the arguments are that while Vlad is a thug, he’s a thug we can work with. You know, just like all the past dictators we cozied up to while insisting we were about freedom and liberty.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:14:30pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

Seeing this, I’m reminded of Mark Levin’s little rant on Faux Tuesday night, going on about past instances where US leaders played nice with Soviet ones. The fucker reached all the way back to the Yalta Conference to claim that Trump fellating Putin was totally with precedent and Democrats should shut up about it.

Yeah, right after Stalin attacked the country’s election system, had opposition figures who’d escaped to other countries murdered, yeah the exact same thing.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:14:39pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:15:03pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Well, could be other people, too.”

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:17:41pm

re: #25 Teukka

Yes, “Prime Minister”

He’s all up in the Channel One wiki link you tweeted. Involved in ways that aren’t surprising at all.

“Berezovsky claims that in 2001 he was forced by the Putin administration to sell his shares. He first tried to sell them to a third party, but failed. A close friend of Berezovsky, Nikolai Glushkov, was arrested while seriously ill, and Berezovsky gave up the shares and transferred them to Roman Abramovich’s Sibneft with the understanding that Glushkov would then be released. This promise was not fulfilled.[11][12] Soon after Berezovsky’s withdrawal, the new ownership changed the channel’s name to Pervy Kanal (Channel One). Konstantin Ernst remains as general director. As of 2008, Channel One’s minority shares are held by three little-known companies, ORT-KB, Eberlink2002, and Rastrkom-2002. Their parent companies are domiciled in Panama and Seychelles and are managed by Evrofinans Group. The ultimate owner is still believed to be Roman Abramovich, who also controls the Video International advertising agency, the exclusive media seller of Channel One.”

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:19:31pm

Meanwhile here is another Trump action that I predicted when he first took office- he is directly trying to influence The Fed in order to keep interest rates artificially low.

yahoo.com

Trump has absolutely no understanding of how interest rates and bond prices work. He is going to wreck the economy sooner rather than later by putting pressure on Fed leadership to ignore fundamental Economics- yet another “Elitist” pursuit that he knows NOTHING about. Hey Trump- great way to crater US Bond prices and have countries around the world dump our assets that keep all of America afloat.

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Jay C  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:20:44pm

re: #52 JordanRules

SRSLY:

“Pervy Kanal”

LOL

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:21:09pm

Magnitsky backgrounder:

“…What Trump Jr. found himself unexpectedly ensnared by last year was, in a way, the original sin of Vladimir Putin’s Russia. Before there was Syria, before Ukraine, before election meddling, there was the case of the murdered lawyer Sergei Magnitsky.”

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:22:18pm

re: #54 Jay C

SRSLY:

“Pervy Kanal”

LOL

Inorite?

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Teukka  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:24:21pm

re: #56 makeitstop

Inorite?

Curioser and curioser, as Alice said.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:26:26pm
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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:26:52pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:27:04pm

re: #58 JordanRules

We invite him to DC or face nuclear war. Which would you prefer?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:27:09pm

This Nixon bio feels so relevant. They’re talking about the Marshall Plan. To young Nixon’s credit, he did support it despite his financial backers opposing it. The debate about it reminds me of how Trump and Tucker talked about NATO and Montenegro. “Why do we need to help them anyway?”

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Teukka  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:27:18pm

re: #58 JordanRules

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Donalde Trumpescu? *badumtssssh*

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:27:30pm

re: #58 JordanRules

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Not a bad analogy, Mr. Smith.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:28:46pm
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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:28:48pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:29:18pm

re: #54 Jay C

SRSLY:

“Pervy Kanal”

LOL

Is that the ‘backchannel connection’ that Mariia Butina is so famous for?
//

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:30:05pm

What we’re seeing is the wingnuts falling back on their Cold War instincts: “Yeah, he’s a murdering sonovabitch, but he’s our sonovabitch! Obviously we can work with a guy who has similar goals!”

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:30:13pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:30:31pm

re: #62 Teukka

Donalde Trumpescu? *badumtssssh*

Well SOMETHING is DEFINITELY askew!

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:30:45pm

Seeing a lot of posts by my Facebook conservative “friends” and family supporting the Russian FSB request to interrogate U.S. officials. “What’s the problem if they (America citizens) did nothing wrong?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:31:26pm

re: #60 Sir John Barron

We invite him to DC or face nuclear war. Which would you prefer?

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Nice country got here, Donald! Shame if something were to happen to it!

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:31:51pm

re: #70 DodgerFan1988

Ask them to define “wrong” in Russian.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:32:08pm

re: #70 DodgerFan1988

Seeing a lot of posts by my Facebook conservative “friends” and family supporting the Russian FSB request to interrogate U.S. officials. “What’s the problem if they (America citizens) did nothing wrong?”

WHAT. THE. FUCK?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:32:11pm

re: #70 DodgerFan1988

Seeing a lot of posts by my Facebook conservative “friends” and family supporting the Russian FSB request to interrogate U.S. officials. “What’s the problem if they (America citizens) did nothing wrong?”

this is the hole they keep digging

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:33:14pm

re: #73 Blind Frog Belly White

WHAT. THE. FUCK?

Remember when these same people freaked out about the “Amero.” Ah good times.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:33:50pm

re: #70 DodgerFan1988

Seeing a lot of posts by my Facebook conservative “friends” and family supporting the Russian FSB request to interrogate U.S. officials. “What’s the problem if they (America citizens) did nothing wrong?”

There’s a word for those who willingly collaborate: Quislings.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:34:28pm

re: #19 makeitstop

“Judge” Pirro meets Ana Navarro and Whoopi. It goes pretty much just how you’d expect.

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Video

Why even invite her on your show? What the hell did you expect from Jeane Pirro? **rolls eyes**

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:36:20pm

re: #70 DodgerFan1988

Seeing a lot of posts by my Facebook conservative “friends” and family supporting the Russian FSB request to interrogate U.S. officials. “What’s the problem if they (America citizens) did nothing wrong?”

“So, what you’re saying is that you’d volunteer to be interrogated by the Russian security forces over your role in sanctions, right? I can arrange for them to know about it.”

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:36:48pm

re: #53 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Meanwhile here is another Trump action that I predicted when he first took office- he is directly trying to influence The Fed in order to keep interest rates artificially low.

yahoo.com

Trump has absolutely no understanding of how interest rates and bond prices work. He is going to wreck the economy sooner rather than later by putting pressure on Fed leadership to ignore fundamental Economics- yet another “Elitist” pursuit that he knows NOTHING about. Hey Trump- great way to crater US Bond prices and have countries around the world dump our assets that keep all of America afloat.

Here is the chart for the Euro - US Dollar exchange rate. This is driven primarily by speculation about future interest rate differences between two currencies (higher rates, more demand for the currency, higher price currency commands). See if you can spot when speculators think that the Federal Reserve is less likely to raise rates.

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Varek Raith  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:38:37pm

re: #70 DodgerFan1988

Seeing a lot of posts by my Facebook conservative “friends” and family supporting the Russian FSB request to interrogate U.S. officials. “What’s the problem if they (America citizens) did nothing wrong?”

-_-

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:38:57pm

re: #70 DodgerFan1988

Seeing a lot of posts by my Facebook conservative “friends” and family supporting the Russian FSB request to interrogate U.S. officials. “What’s the problem if they (America citizens) did nothing wrong?”

Those “friends” and family are idiots then. Nuff said.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:39:18pm

The crowd who imagines themselves as “WOLVERINES!” now question what’s so wrong with working with the enemy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:40:48pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

The crowd who imagines themselves as “WOLVERINES!” now question what’s so wrong with working with the enemy.

This is all cognitively dissonating them so much. Most of them still have memories of hating Commies but are somehow drawn to loving Putin.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:40:49pm
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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:41:13pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:43:54pm

I was wondering why the spoken words don’t sync with HRC’s lip movements. Did she really say that? There are “Deep Fake” video editing tools.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:44:26pm

re: #86 The Vicious Babushka

I was wondering why the spoken words don’t sync with HRC’s lip movements. Did she really say that? There are “Deep Fake” video editing tools.

again, note the date. and note the context

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sagehen  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:44:51pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

Seeing this, I’m reminded of Mark Levin’s little rant on Faux Tuesday night, going on about past instances where US leaders played nice with Soviet ones. The fucker reached all the way back to the Yalta Conference to claim that Trump fellating Putin was totally with precedent and Democrats should shut up about it.

“If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.”
— Winston Churchill

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:46:11pm
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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:46:44pm

Cowardice.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:47:21pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:48:12pm

re: #23 jaunte

Pirro is a crazy person with garbage in her head. Some of these shows are going to have to restrain their need for spectacle, just as a public service.

Got that right. Pirro has been marinated in Fox Crazy for so long she is already overcooked from all the acid.

She can’t say anything that isn’t right off one of their stupid “entertainer” evening shows.

She is the Pirro Parrot.

And having these people on TV is akin to a crowd forming to watch a crazy person hurt themselves for their entertainment. Everyone gets damage.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:48:25pm

On July 1, Governor Matt Bevin abruptly canceled Medicaid dental and vision coverage for nearly 400k Kentuckians because he was having a temper tantrum about a judge blocking his Medicaid work requirements. Those benefits have just been reinstated.

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Jay C  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:48:30pm

BTW, in case anyone was wondering, apparently Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) was the other “non-voter” in today’s 98-0 Senate resolution: though why is still unknown.

Funny, in today’s near-instantaneous real-time news environment, I first found this out from a comment on a diary I posted on the vote at dKos. I guess the blogosphere IS ahead of “traditional media” some times….

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:48:32pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

#NewProfilePic#FreeMariaButina pic.twitter.com

— MFA Russia 🇷🇺

LOL

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:50:30pm

re: #93 Big Beautiful Door

On July 1, Governor Matt Bevin abruptly canceled Medicaid dental and vision coverage for nearly 400k Kentuckians

You might think cruelty like that would cost a governor or political official, but in this climate….

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:50:54pm

re: #90 jaunte

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Cowardice.

Like I mentioned the other day, most of those in this admin’s highest offices will not quit no matter how high the shit gets because doing so basically means the end of their careers. There’s no room in the wingnut welfare circuit for those who go against Dear Leader, and most have been associated with this man so long that even having a very public break with him for moral/ethical reasons will not wash off the stink. Their careers have become toxic byproducts of every wrong they’ve associated themselves with or quietly allowed to go by and now they’re stuck. The most they can hope for is Comrade Combover leaves office while they still have time on the clock.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:51:06pm

re: #90 jaunte

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Cowardice.

No, Mr. Coats, just missing your bus or train is “what it is”, the President of the United States taking Putin’s line on the most important national security matter of the age is NOT that. WTF is wrong with you. Grow a spine. If this were Obama or a Clinton, you’d want his balls on a plate.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:51:39pm

re: #43 Barefoot Grin

Marriage of necessity, though like Trump, Roosevelt seemed a little too enamoured of his counterpart.

To be fair, Soviet troops had been doing the bulk of the fighting to defeat Nazi Germany at the time. All Putin defeated was the Clinton Campaign.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:51:58pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:53:08pm

re: #97 Targetpractice

Like I mentioned the other day, most of those in this admin’s highest offices will not quit no matter how high the shit gets because doing so basically means the end of their careers. There’s no room in the wingnut welfare circuit for those who go against Dear Leader, and most have been associated with this man so long that even having a very public break with him for moral/ethical reasons will not wash off the stink. Their careers have become toxic byproducts of every wrong they’ve associated themselves with or quietly allowed to go by and now they’re stuck. The most they can hope for is Comrade Combover leaves office while they still have time on the clock.

Although I sort of prefer that Coats stay in his position, as opposed to have Doturd put someone else there who would be more slavish to him and Russia.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:53:57pm

re: #70 DodgerFan1988

Our Trump loving friends and family are part of an effort to build a worldwide white Christian supremacist movement that as of now pits about 2% of the world’s population against the other 98%.

The 35%-45% of America that support Orange McDouche are about 1.5%-2% of the total world population. They naively think they can organize a worldwide white-centric Christian alliance with Russia as a reliable primary member- without any real understanding of Russia and the Russian mindset under Putin.

Russia is not interested in promoting American-style Evangelical Christianity, guns for everyone, or any sort of traditional freedoms and democracy. Putin’s Russia has made it publicly clear time and time again that their primary concern via public statements and actions is restoring Russian domination throughout their periphery and well into Europe itself. Putin also uses the utterly corrupt Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) to maintain religious order and actively persecute and heavily regulate any other religious minorities including Evangelical Churches and Pastors.

Putin is viewed as an ally by our 35% and Orange McDouche. We are in the midst of a civil war where a minority of the country is successfully using a violently hostile outside power to help their efforts to defeat the majority.. 35% and Orange McDouche are traitors.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:53:58pm

re: #101 Sir John Barron

Although I sort of prefer that Coats stay in his position, as opposed to have Doturd put someone else there who would be more slavish to him and Russia.

That’s very true. See McMaster being replaced by Bolton.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:54:22pm

And we can be sure that Vlad is not going to bring among his entourage any members of the FSB or SVR to do things like listening in to Donny’s unsecured cellphone calls…

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:56:09pm
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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:56:10pm
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Varek Raith  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:56:37pm

re: #90 jaunte

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Cowardice.

JFCOAPS.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:56:45pm

Has any other President in history ever gotten up to publicly announce that they did not really say what they said in a previous statement?

Not a correction of facts or a change of opinion, but to claim that they “misspoke” and really meant the opposite of what they said in public (and in the presence of the leader of a foreign country)?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:57:32pm

re: #83 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is all cognitively dissonating them so much. Most of them still have memories of hating Commies but are somehow drawn to loving Putin.

They still hate commies; its just that they think the Democrats are the commies and Putin isn’t, because he hates teh Gheyz, just like them.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:58:27pm

re: #73 Blind Frog Belly White

WHAT. THE. FUCK?

Sadly, Russian propaganda works.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:59:17pm

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Has any other President in history ever gotten up to publicly announce that they did not really say what they said in a previous statement?

Not a correction of facts or a change of opinion, but to claim that they “misspoke” and really meant the opposite of what they said in public (and in the presence of the leader of a foreign country)?

All I can think of is the years of obsession to this day by wingnuts over Obama saying “act of terror” instead of “terrorist attack.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:59:48pm

re: #111 Targetpractice

All I can think of is the years of obsession to this day by wingnuts over Obama saying “act of terror” instead of “terrorist attack.”

No kidding.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:59:51pm

Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee have gotten extremely petty in their attempts to stonewall Democrats who are trying to investigate Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. After all, those Republicans, led by committee chairman Representative Devin Nunes, ended the House Intel Russia probe in April and cleared the White House of any wrongdoing. But Democrats pledged to continue interviewing witnesses, and now the GOP is making that increasingly difficult.

Democrats tell CNN that they aren’t allowed into conference rooms to conduct interviews, they’ve been denied funds to pay for witness travel to Washington, D.C., and Nunes is even preventing them from using the House’s transcription services, which costs the committee nothing. As a result, they’ve been left to conduct interviews in the office of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, as they did Wednesday with George Papadopoulos’s wife Simona, who had to pay her own way to D.C.

Along with these small annoyances, Republicans on the committee are making one big thing difficult: Nunes is blocking Democrats from sharing what they’ve learned in witness interviews with Special Counsel Robert Mueller. Representative Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the committee, tells CNN that some of the witnesses interviewed by House may have lied and he wants to tell Mueller all about it, but he can’t do so without Nunes’s help.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 19, 2018 • 1:59:55pm

re: #110 DodgerFan1988

sadly, “most Americans” don’t actually get out and vote.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:00:05pm

re: #110 DodgerFan1988

NEW POLL: Republicans overwhelmingly back Trump’s handling of press conference with Putin — 85% see election interference as a distraction.www.

I am going to go out on a limb here and speculate that a good share of those 85% of Republican supporters are harboring secret doubts about Trump’s behavior, but are not about to admit it, not even to an anonymous poll.

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:00:06pm

re: #73 Blind Frog Belly White

WHAT. THE. FUCK?

This is where we have gone now.

I don’t see how the Republic stands if one party now insists on help from a foreign power to maintain power and punish enemies.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:00:39pm

re: #110 DodgerFan1988

Sadly, Russian propaganda works.

I often see when my kids do stuff that gets them in trouble as a distraction. But I still have to deal with it.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:00:52pm

re: #110 DodgerFan1988

Sadly, Russian propaganda works.

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DIY MAGA eagerly buying the rope and hanging themselves.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:00:57pm

re: #96 Sir John Barron

You might think cruelty like that would cost a governor or political official, but in this climate….

I hope it does; he has to run for reelection next year.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:01:02pm

re: #114 Rocky-in-Connecticut

sadly, “most Americans” don’t actually get out and vote.

I can only hope that Trump has done a enough to motivate a lot more Americans to get out and vote.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:01:10pm

re: #118 jaunte

DIY MAGA eagerly buying the rope and hanging themselves.

Owing the libs by stepping on our dicks ourselves.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:01:56pm

re: #50 goddamnedfrank

Space Force Commodore
@goddamnedfrank
“You can tell that I am a very smart person because I say both parties are equally bad,” said the white dudebro while staring at himself in the mirror longingly and stroking his beard.

4:11 PM - Jul 19, 2018

I bet that beard is is a very creative, one-of-a-kind, special beard that he spends time fussing over and constantly considering because it is his whole being.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:02:49pm

re: #110 DodgerFan1988

Sadly, Russian propaganda works.

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“Well yeah, I have a problem with how he handled the press conference, but the fake news media went overboard with their criticism so I’m gonna give him a pass!”

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:03:36pm

re: #99 Big Beautiful Door

To be fair, Soviet troops had been doing the bulk of the fighting to defeat Nazi Germany at the time. All Putin defeated was the Clinton Campaign.

Very true. Still, poor Winston left sitting there all alone….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:05:45pm
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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:05:47pm
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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:05:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:06:57pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Gotta love the Oath Keepers who claim to be anti big government sucking up to a tyrannical government. It’s almost like they’re motivated by their racism and not you know principle that the fuckers lack.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:07:54pm

re: #127 JordanRules

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Yes, Donald, that’s why Obama took off the sanctions you put on Russia. Oh wait that was you, you Vlad, Vlad’s ass puppet. You our country’s greatest disgrace. At least Benedict Arnold and many of the CSA generals had served this country before they betrayed us.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:08:06pm
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Varek Raith  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:08:08pm

re: #127 JordanRules

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Someone hit me with a 2x4.
Thanks.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:08:32pm

re: #127 JordanRules

BWAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Trump knows he’s been caught pleasing Putin.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:08:59pm

re: #127 JordanRules

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“Not a puppet! You’re the puppet!”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:09:16pm

At least Nixon wasn’t stupid enough to accuse the Dems of breaking into their own HQ.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:11:53pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

At least Nixon wasn’t stupid enough to accuse the Dems of breaking into their own HQ.

He was just not fortunate enough to have Fox News back then. Imagine them reporting on Watergate…

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Cheechako  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:12:25pm

I guess Putin will have to face a big decision when he visits DC this fall. Will he stay at the trump Hotel or the Lincoln Bedroom in the White House?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:12:26pm

re: #135 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He was just not fortunate enough to have Fox News back then. Imagine them reporting on Watergate…

Oh no doubt about that at all.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:13:13pm

re: #110 DodgerFan1988

Sadly, Russian propaganda works.

A distraction from what? Their party’s ability to hold onto power?

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:13:37pm

re: #136 Cheechako

I guess Putin will have to face a big decision when he visits DC this fall.

Ivanka or Melania?

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:13:53pm

re: #135 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He was just not fortunate enough to have Fox News back then. Imagine them reporting on Watergate…

“Tonight, we have startling new evidence that the burglars involved in the Watergate break-in were in fact let in by a DNC staff member. Did the DNC orchestrate the burglary of their own offices in order to frame President Nixon? More on this, tonight on Hannity.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:14:45pm

re: #140 Targetpractice

“Tonight, we have startling new evidence that the burglars involved in the Watergate break-in were in fact let in by a DNC staff member. Did the DNC orchestrate the burglary of their own offices in order to frame President Nixon? More on this, tonight on Hannity.”

I really want some clever sketch comedian to do FNC throughout history.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:14:59pm

This is getting to be an epidemic. There was an incident like this in Weatherford yesterday. An RWNJ started screaming at employees of a Dollar General store that they “are stealing our country.” They threw him out and he attacked an employee in the parking lot. He is cooling his heels in the local jail. RWNJ media and politicians are not even pretending to support democratic principles anymore. They are just hooting and gibbering to fill the time until they think they can settle everything by brute force.

Hayden man arrested for hate crime following fight with youth pastor

On July 12, officers responded to a large fight at a Coeur d’Alene McDonald’s. Court documents say a Hayden man was charged with battery and malicious harassment, which is considered a hate crime in Idaho, following an investigation by police.

When officers arrived on scene, the fight had broken up, but witnesses were interviewed at the scene.

The victim, Quezalcoatl Ceniceros, told police he was getting ice cream with his church youth group, when a man, later identified as Richard Sovenski, became confrontational with the young people waiting in line. Ceniceros and Sovenski began arguing inside the restaurant before they went outside to the parking lot.

According to the documents, Ceniceros told police Sovenski pushed him to the ground and punched him one time in the shoulder as he fell to the ground. He then took out his cell phone and recorded the rest of the incident on his phone.

Documents say the video shows Sovenski yelling and cursing at the group as well as calling one of them a ‘half breed’

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:15:17pm

re: #136 Cheechako

I guess Putin will have to face a big decision when he visits DC this fall. Will he stay at the trump Hotel or the Lincoln Bedroom in the White House?

Wouldn’t he take the main bedroom?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:16:01pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But they have all the guns!///

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TedStriker  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:16:06pm

re: #83 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is all cognitively dissonating them so much. Most of them still have memories of hating Commies but are somehow drawn to loving Putin.

Putin is the strongman of their dreams, someone who will crush any meaningful dissent; if Putin helping Trump gets them there, then they’re all for it.

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makeitstop  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:16:26pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

I really want some clever sketch comedian to do FNC throughout history.

Not a comedian, but here you go.

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Cheechako  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:17:23pm

re: #139 jaunte

Ivanka or Melania?

Both???

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:18:01pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

I really want some clever sketch comedian to do FNC throughout history.

“And now breaking news: Military sources tell us that they have sighted a major naval fleet building up in Pearl Harbor, including the USS Yorktown that was reported as sunk by the Japanese Navy during the disastrous ‘Battle of the Coral Sea.’ Navy officials won’t comment on the fleet build-up, but our sources say this build-up coincides with reports about the breaking of the Japanese naval code.”

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sagehen  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:18:29pm

re: #142 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Seriously tangential to the story, but… what the hell kind of insane parents name their child Quetzalcoatl?

the feathered serpent
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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:18:32pm

re: #140 Targetpractice

“Tonight, we have startling new evidence that the burglars involved in the Watergate break-in were in fact let in by a DNC staff member. Did the DNC orchestrate the burglary of their own offices in order to frame President Nixon? More on this, tonight on Hannity.”

The arrested participants were members of the CIA or have previous experience in the government, meaning they were Deep State Dems.

/

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:18:36pm

re: #140 Targetpractice

“Tonight, we have startling new evidence that the burglars involved in the Watergate break-in were in fact let in by a DNC staff member. Did the DNC orchestrate the burglary of their own offices in order to frame President Nixon? More on this, tonight on Hannity.”

He may still go there. The New Deal and the Yalta conference are still current events to these people so Watergate is like last week.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:18:57pm

re: #142 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This is getting to be an epidemic. There was an incident like this in Weatherford yesterday. An RWNJ started screaming at employees of a Dollar General store that they “are stealing our country.” They threw him out and he attacked an employee in the parking lot. He is cooling his heels in the local jail. RWNJ media and politicians are not even pretending to support democratic principles anymore. They are just hooting and gibbering to fill the time until they think they can settle everything by brute force. Hayden man arrested for hate crime following fight with youth pastor

They problem is, people just aren’t cowering in fear and hiding like these people were hoping. Trump threatens to get rid of the Mexicans, and yet, the Mexicans are still seen in public. So, they’re upping the ante.

But they’re going to fail. And they’re going to lose their jobs, if not end up in jail, because of it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:19:03pm

re: #146 makeitstop

Not a comedian, but here you go.

TY.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:19:28pm

Mueller Investigation Broadening To Determine If Trump Has Any Ties To United States

some theorize russia-only influences might be less than completely ideal for american political leaders

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:19:41pm

Non-binding? Of course.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:20:20pm

re: #143 Belafon

Wouldn’t he take the main bedroom?

Melania would have to move out for the night.

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Teukka  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:20:30pm

Sweden forest fire summary as of Thu PM:

o According to SOS Alarm (112 operator) there was 49 ongoing rescue operation regarding wildfires of varying size around the country during Thursday afternoon.
o Gävleborg, Dalarna and Jämtland Counties are the worst hit.
o In many locations in the country people have been forced to evacuate from their homes.
o During Thursday afternoon a total of 13 VMA’s (Important Public Announcements) were in effect for several counties, which is a record according to SOS Alarm.
o Two Italian fire bombers are on location in Härjedalen and Ljusdal, and France has promised to send two firebombers which are en route or should arrived.
o In many locations the situation is dire with rescue services personnel and other volunteers who have for several days tried to fight the fires. 500 volunteers from the Swedish Defence Forces have returned from their vacation to help the rescue services.
o SMHI (Swedish NOAA) warns that the risk of fire in forest and terrain is very high or extremely high in the entire country.
o Prohibition of open fire is in effect in the entire country.

Source: Aftonbladet

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:20:41pm

re: #149 sagehen

Seriously tangential to the story, but… what the hell kind of insane parents name their child Quetzalcoatl?

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Probably nicknamed “Queso.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:22:00pm

re: #158 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Probably nicknamed “Queso.”

kind of a cheesy nickname…

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:22:48pm
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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:22:55pm

re: #155 MsJ

Non-binding? Of course.

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Yup. It didn’t really do shit that’s why it was unanimous.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:23:03pm

Such a fucking punk:

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:23:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:23:43pm

re: #162 Dr. Matt

Such a fucking punk:

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IS that why you haven’t implemented the sanctions, Donald Vladimirovitch.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:24:28pm

re: #162 Dr. Matt

Such a fucking punk:

A leader who was “tough” on a foreign adversary does not usually have to spend the rest of the week saying how “tough” he was.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:25:07pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

IS that why you haven’t implemented the sanctions, Donald Vladimirovitch.

He projects so much that there isn’t a screen big enough to capture his bullshit.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:25:38pm

re: #163 MsJ

I sure hope the goats remembered to thank DJT for their good fortunate today.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:25:44pm

re: #162 Dr. Matt

Such a fucking punk:

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The man who argued against sanctions that were passed by veto-proof majorities because he felt they got in the way of his making “deals” with Russia and who reportedly blew up at his advisors when he learned that the US had expelled more Russians than our European allies…is “tougher” on Russia. I think the sentiment I heard the other night is right, the actions of this administration have been tough, but Trump personally has been weak and defended such as a “good thing” because he wants to be best buds with Putin.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:25:45pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:29:57pm

re: #143 Belafon

Wouldn’t he take the main bedroom?

The Lincoln Bedroom, like back in Clinton scandal days. It sends a message!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:30:32pm

re: #169 jaunte

Trump said once again that the American media is the real enemy. He’s right. They keep exposing his lies, mistakes, conflicts of interest, and subservience to Putin. They are his enemy. They’re the ally of everyone who doesn’t want to see Putin running the United States.

logical conclusin: FOX is not news.

then what does that make them? state propaganda? infotainment? performance art?
a test to see how gullible a nation can be? all of the above?

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:31:05pm
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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:32:28pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:33:53pm

re: #173 jaunte

BREAKING: We knew it was a lie. Now Trump’s own Justice Dept admits in response to @protctdemocracy FOIA that no law requires family separations at the border.

But Jeff sessions told us the Bible says so!

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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:34:50pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:36:42pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:37:44pm

re: #149 sagehen

Seriously tangential to the story, but… what the hell kind of insane parents name their child Quetzalcoatl?

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It’s Aztec for Jesús. So the Aztec kind of insane parents would do that.

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Teukka  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:37:45pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

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*checks coffee for traces of drugs*

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:38:33pm

re: #173 jaunte

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These assholes need to rot in jail for a long time.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:38:47pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

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Oh? You don’t say!

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Dr. Matt  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:40:25pm

re: #175 gocart mozart

Am I stupid because I don’t who is Eric Foner and Robert Dallek?

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BigPapa  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:40:29pm

Interpreters? Putin is KGB. I have no doubt he can speak or understand English to a functional level. That they would record everything is to be expected.

I’m sure Trump knows Russian.

OK, there’s no way in hell he knows Russian.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:42:09pm

re: #149 sagehen

Seriously tangential to the story, but… what the hell kind of insane parents name their child Quetzalcoatl?

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Better than Huitzilopochtli….

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:42:43pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔
@Green_Footballs
Ya think?

5:36 PM - Jul 19, 2018

That kind of crack journalism makes my head hurt.

My head hurts a lot lately.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:43:42pm

re: #181 Dr. Matt

Am I stupid because I don’t who is Eric Foner and Robert Dallek?

Historians. Dallek has written mostly about 20th century President whereas Foner, a former casual friend of my American history professor in community college is an expert on Reconstruction. I’d take their word on history over Dinesh who thinks the GOP is the same party it was now in 1860 and the Dems are too. Dinesh is just jealous of two people who actually research their shit rather than an abusive asshole who stuck his dick in Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter.

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TedStriker  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:44:07pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

Ya think?

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) July 19, 2018

Hell, I took that to be a given.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:44:37pm

re: #182 BigPapa

Interpreters? Putin is KGB. I have no doubt he can speak or understand English to a functional level. That they would record everything is to be expected.

I’m sure Trump knows Russian.

OK, there’s no way in hell he knows Russian.

I imagine Trump’s Russian is worse than the pretend Japanese my niece pretends to speak when she plays restaurant and welcomes me to her Japanese restaurant.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:45:33pm

re: #182 BigPapa

Interpreters? Putin is KGB. I have no doubt he can speak or understand English to a functional level. That they would record everything is to be expected.

I’m sure Trump knows Russian.

OK, there’s no way in hell he knows Russian.

Yeah, he just pretends not to speak English, but he definitely does.
Trump doesn’t really do English for real or pretend.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:45:45pm

I not only believe Vlad had the convo recorded, I expect to hear “leaks” about its contents going into the next two years.

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The Major  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:46:03pm

…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:46:27pm

Trump knows Russian like he knows the military and the Bible which is to say notta goddamn thing.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:46:35pm

re: #188 JordanRules

Trump doesn’t really do English for real or pretend.

President Brainworms has the best words.

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sagehen  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:46:39pm

OT: Tonight on BBC-America, 8pm eastern time

Doctor Who — The Lost Episode

In a previously unbroadcast and legendary story by Douglas Adams, Shada combines original live-action footage with hand-drawn animation, remastered footage and newly-recorded voices of the original cast

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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:47:04pm
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BigPapa  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:47:18pm

On corporate virtue:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:47:30pm

re: #189 Targetpractice

I not only believe Vlad had the convo recorded, I expect to hear “leaks” about its contents going into the next years.

And Trump being the dumbass patsy he is will blame the media because his good pal Vlad would never do that. I can’t wait for Vlad to expose how little he really thinks of Donald.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:49:40pm

re: #188 JordanRules

Yeah, he just pretends not to speak English, but he definitely does.
Trump doesn’t really do English for real or pretend.

Trump needs an interpreter around him at all times.

American style English to Trump is difficult.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:50:53pm

re: #189 Targetpractice

I not only believe Vlad had the convo recorded, I expect to hear “leaks” about its contents going into the next two years.

We were discussing earlier how our U.S. Intel may already know what was said too. They just need to be real cool about it. Can’t let Vlad know.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:53:19pm

re: #45 Barefoot Grin

So Putin will review the troops with Trump?

Will he go to a Trump rally? Hell yes he will.

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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:56:16pm
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MsJ  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:58:16pm
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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:58:36pm

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Fox News is a religious cult.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 2:59:12pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:03:25pm
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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:06:21pm
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BigPapa  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:06:59pm

We’ve lulled ourselves into complacency believing all the Fox News white hairs will die off . What we didn’t plan on was gerrymandering and local/state offices that supported the minority of old WASPs still holding a disproportionate amount of electoral power.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:08:35pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:08:59pm

re: #206 BigPapa

It’s not just old people. Young racists are moving up the ranks of the GOP as well.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:09:31pm

re: #207 jaunte

Why would they care? They won.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:10:36pm

re: #209 Skip Intro

Maybe she’ll get a response from a soybean farmer.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:11:22pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:11:31pm

re: #205 jaunte

Shouldn’t they brush up on their English first?

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:12:20pm

re: #207 jaunte

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:12:33pm

re: #212 Patricia Kayden

It’s a chance to not know two languages at once.

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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:12:42pm

re: #205 jaunte

[The neo-Confederate group League of the South announced this week that it will soon be introducing a Russian language section to its website.]

All those white nationalists are gonna have to get themselves some other nation to be all white over. This one is demographically doomed to them.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:13:36pm

re: #215 wrenchwench

They seem to be trying to make apartheid South Africa happen here.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:13:38pm

re: #211 DodgerFan1988

And Russians know that a sizeable portion of our population is a-ok with them interfering in our elections for Republicans. Unless Democrats take over the House or Senate this November, we’re doomed.

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Teukka  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:14:42pm

Paramedic who came to the aid of civilians in the Turku terrorist knife attack gets another medal:

The fourth recipient of a George Medal is Hassan Zubier, who came to the aid of victims of a knife attack while he was on holiday with his family in Finland.

Mr Zubier, who was born in Kent but now lives in Sweden, sustained wounds to his neck, chest and arm as he fought a knifeman who stabbed two women to death.

The paramedic, who now has to use a wheelchair because of his injuries, said he was “honoured to be recognised” but received the award “with mixed feelings, remembering that two people lost their lives”.

Source: BBC News - London Bridge terror attack heroes on Civilian Gallantry List

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:14:56pm

re: #215 wrenchwench

They can move to Eastern Europe which is pretty White and homogenous. I’m sure Russia will welcome them with open arms.

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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:15:11pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:15:16pm

re: #216 jaunte

They seem to be trying to make apartheid South Africa happen here.

It’s over all over for them. Not even western Europe is white enough for them any more.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:16:09pm

re: #205 jaunte

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What in the name of the Czar;s name is going on here? There are probably more people with Hispanic heritage who served with the CSA than Russian.

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:16:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:16:55pm

re: #208 Skip Intro

It’s not just old people. Young racists are moving up the ranks of the GOP as well.

You are so right about that. It’s why you won’t see me blaming the Boomers.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:17:27pm

Wait…the conservative MAGA meatheads that have fought off the contention Trump was helped by Russia are now going to flip and say it has all been cool with them?

Damn. What a disease. These people need to be quarantined until we can find out what the hell is going on!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:18:48pm

re: #225 ObserverArt

Wait…the conservative MAGA meatheads that have fought off the contention Trump was helped by Russia are now going to flip and say it has all been cool with them?

Damn. What a disease. These people need to be quarantined until we can find out what the hell is going on!

Detrumpification.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:19:08pm
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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:20:49pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

What in the name of the Czar;s name is going on here? There are probably more people with Hispanic heritage who served with the CSA than Russian.

You know what’s going on.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:20:53pm

re: #216 jaunte

They seem to be trying to make apartheid South Africa happen here.

Trying??????????????

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wrenchwench  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:21:42pm

They’re rioting in Africa

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:22:51pm

re: #226 HappyWarrior

Detrumpification.

It’s going to be tough.

This really is beyond cult in some ways. Even cults stick to a damn script.

These clowns follow every crazy thing Trump bellows even if it is totally opposed to what he said a day ago.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:23:59pm

re: #231 ObserverArt

It’s going to be tough.

This really is beyond cult in some ways. Even cults stick to a damn script.

These clowns follow every crazy thing Trump bellows even if it is totally opposed to what he said a day ago.

L. Ron Trump…

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Chrysicat  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:24:13pm
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MsJ  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:24:45pm

And the hits keep coming.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:25:09pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:27:40pm

re: #232 Joe Bacon 🌹

L. Ron Trump…

Without the “cans.”

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Bubblehead II  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:27:46pm

Lizards, calling it day. As always, may the Deity of your choice smile down upon you and yours.

Evanescence - Lost in Paradise (Lyric Video)

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:28:57pm

re: #234 MsJ

And the hits keep coming.

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Maybe Putin”s coming here in the fall to pick up the keys to the country. That nuclear football would make a great Xmas gift.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:29:11pm

re: #228 JordanRules

You know what’s going on.

Yeah I do. It’s just amazing how LoS is flaunting it.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:29:15pm

“The Gerasimov Doctrine”
“It’s Russia’s new chaos theory of political warfare. And it’s probably being used on you.”
politico.com

“Codebreaking the Alt Right: “Russia is Our Friend!”“
altrightorigins.com

“CHARLOTTESVILLE’S ALT-RIGHT LEADERS HAVE A PASSION FOR VLADIMIR PUTIN”
newsweek.com

“Trump, Putin, and the Alt-Right International”
“In boosting Trump and funding fringe parties in Europe, Russia has helped construct a new kind of “comintern”—and it’s even more effective than the Cold War version.”
theatlantic.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:30:14pm

re: #235 goddamnedfrank

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TBH modern conservatism as it starts with Buckley and those like him has always been this way. Sure, there may have been principled opposition to the New Deal and I understand that but the right as we know it has its roots in McCarthyism, Jim Crow, and the other far right movements of the past.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:31:19pm

re: #231 ObserverArt

It’s going to be tough.

This really is beyond cult in some ways. Even cults stick to a damn script.

These clowns follow every crazy thing Trump bellows even if it is totally opposed to what he said a day ago.

I know. I see it all the damn time.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:32:19pm

Poll: only 28 percent of young voters say they will certainly vote in the 2018 midterms

Then you can kiss your country goodbye, assholes.

vox.com

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:34:00pm
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Mattand  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:36:21pm

re: #231 ObserverArt

It’s going to be tough.

This really is beyond cult in some ways. Even cults stick to a damn script.

These clowns follow every crazy thing Trump bellows even if it is totally opposed to what he said a day ago.

I have to admit, I’d love for people like Dark Falcon, NJDevilfan, and sattv4u2 to temporarily pop back in. Partly so I can verbally pound on them, and partly to see their insane rationalizations up close and personal. Kinda like studying lab specimens.

I’d imagine sattv4u2 would be a “Trump having Russia’s help is a good thing” dipshit. He was a big “Trayvon Martin had it coming” proponent. I could see him being a complete MAGAt.

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:40:04pm

re: #245 Mattand

I have to admit, I’d love for people like Dark Falcon, NJDevilfan, and sattv4u2 to temporarily pop back in. Partly so I can verbally pound on them, and partly to see their insane rationalizations up close and personal. Kinda like studying lab specimens.

I’d imagine sattv4u2 would be a “Trump having Russia’s help is a good thing” dipshit. He was a big “Trayvon Martin had it coming” proponent. I could see him being a complete MAGAt.

Rah. Fucking. Team.

All that’s needed to become a monster.

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Teukka  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:43:39pm

re: #237 Bubblehead II

Lizards, calling it day. As always, may the Deity of your choice smile down upon you and yours.

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One of Evanescence’s latest :) Listen what she has as a backing band :)

Evanescence - Imperfection Lyrics

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:47:33pm

re: #244 JordanRules

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Psychological torture of a child, being conducted by the US government. Its criminal.

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Teukka  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:48:46pm

re: #248 Big Beautiful Door

Psychological torture of a child, being conducted by the US government. Its criminal.

It’s not criminal when we do it

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:50:00pm

re: #234 MsJ

AS I’ve said before, the US Military is next. Look for top level officers to be “retired” or openly fired and replaced with sworn Trump loyalists.

The November 2016 Elections were when the USA stepped through the Looking Glass.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:50:57pm

re: #246 MsJ

Rah. Fucking. Team.

All that’s needed to become a monster.

Yep.

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:51:28pm

re: #247 Teukka

One of Evanescence’s latest :) Listen what she has as a backing band :)

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She had the single best voice I’ve ever heard.

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Teukka  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:52:47pm

re: #252 MsJ

She had the single best voice I’ve ever heard.

And you can hear that nowadays, she obviously has a better singing coach, her voice is so much richer :)

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:53:58pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:56:00pm

re: #254 JordanRules

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Is he trying to get himself fired?

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:56:16pm
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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:59:35pm

I’m sure Bolton has really no qualms about reversing his previous anti-Russian stance as long as the overall agenda of white supremacism and conservative cultural dominance is achieved.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 3:59:44pm

re: #255 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Is he trying to get himself fired?

In that if he keeps doing his job he might get fired, yes.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:01:37pm

re: #257 Rocky-in-Connecticut

I’m sure Bolton has really no qualms about reversing his previous anti-Russian stance as long as the overall agenda of white supremacism and conservative cultural dominance is achieved.

Absolutely.
The whole GOP and their base reversed their stand. Most of them went from ‘hate it’ to ‘love it’ in like a month. They don’t give a damn.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:03:18pm

re: #259 JordanRules

Absolutely.
The whole GOP and their base reversed their stand. Most of them went from ‘hate it’ to ‘love it’ in like a month. They don’t give a damn.

I’m sure if Trump started praising Al Queda and ISIS, they would too.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:05:11pm

re: #243 Skip Intro

Poll: only 28 percent of young voters say they will certainly vote in the 2018 midterms

Then you can kiss your country goodbye, assholes.

vox.com

I said last night that I didn’t expect all these younger voters to show up in November. It seems I will be proven right.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:05:40pm

re: #260 HappyWarrior

I’m sure if Trump started praising Al Queda and ISIS, they would too.

For a strategic victory sure, not for the long hall though.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:06:06pm

re: #243 Skip Intro

Poll: only 28 percent of young voters say they will certainly vote in the 2018 midterms

Then you can kiss your country goodbye, assholes.

vox.com

What a bunch of fucking dumbasses.

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:06:14pm

Uhm… not buying whatever the heck they’re selling.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:06:48pm

re: #261 Targetpractice

I said last night that I didn’t expect all these younger voters to show up in November. It seems I will be proven right.

It’s why we need to shut up about the Boomers. I don’t like our generation being blamed for stupid shit but our apathy is exactly why Trump might ended up prevailing in the worst possible way.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:07:31pm

re: #264 MsJ

Uhm… not buying whatever the heck they’re selling.

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It’s part of the strategy that France used to combat attempted election interference and the like.

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:08:29pm

re: #266 JordanRules

It’s part of the strategy that France used to combat attempted election interference and the like.

Oh don’t get me wrong, I’m hoping. I just have no expectations of this happening.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:09:19pm

re: #265 HappyWarrior

It’s why we need to shut up about the Boomers. I don’t like our generation being blamed for stupid shit but our apathy is exactly why Trump might ended up prevailing in the worst possible way.

Hasn’t voter apathy in the younger demos been an issue with just about every generation?

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:09:32pm

re: #264 MsJ

Uhm… not buying whatever the heck they’re selling.

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Seems to me Rosenstein is going to start announcing Russian hack attempts in our election because they can not trust the Trump administration to do it.

It sends a message to America this is not normal procedure but it is what we have to do to keep things as safe as we can.

An acknowledgment Trumps is not protecting the election.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:10:01pm

re: #267 MsJ

Oh don’t get me wrong, I’m hoping. I just have no expectations of this happening.

Yeah, they could try to fire him any day.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:12:06pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:12:12pm

re: #268 JordanRules

Hasn’t voter apathy in the younger demos been an issue with just about every generation?

It is like everyone when they get older forgetting what they did as youth.

I have voted pretty consistently since the year I graduated high school, but I know many that didn’t when I was college age and a bit older.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:12:36pm
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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:12:47pm

… and Putin gives fresh marching orders…

yahoo.com

Expect Trump to follow Putin’s lead and start blaming Ukraine and Georgia for being invaded.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:13:10pm

re: #249 Teukka

It’s not criminal when we do it

“The 10 year old Honduran illegal is the real criminal!”

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:13:27pm

re: #271 Dave In Austin

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Yup! That timeout is a badge of honor.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:16:17pm

re: #272 ObserverArt

It is like everyone when they get older forgetting what they did as youth.

I have voted pretty consistently since the year I graduated high school, but I know many that didn’t when I was college age and a bit older.

Pretty much the same experiences for me and I’m an Xer.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:16:48pm

We need to get out a disinformation campaign about Kenya and Somalia hacking into our election systems and having success.

All kinds of protections for the vote will change almost immediately.

Am I kidding??? Yeah, but sad thing is, it may work.

We might get proper protected voting machines with all kinds of paper and other security trails.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:21:28pm

Wow, Bill Kristol followed me. Strange days indeed.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:22:53pm

re: #276 JordanRules

12hrs reduced usage or some such shit. I can still post. Don’t know really what it means.

I guess if you call someone a Traitor, it’s hate speech?

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Teukka  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:24:07pm

re: #280 Dave In Austin

12hrs reduced usage or some such shit. I can still post. Don’t know really what it means.

I guess if you call someone a Traitor, it’s hate speech?

What about demonstratively begin tweeting things which for the most part are redacted?

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:24:41pm

re: #280 Dave In Austin

12hrs reduced usage or some such shit. I can still post. Don’t know really what it means.

I guess if you call someone a Traitor, it’s hate speech?

Hannity’s chosen sides. He is a traitor.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:26:32pm

re: #279 Charles Johnson

Wow, Bill Kristol followed me. Strange days indeed.

He also followed Hillary Clinton recently.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:27:16pm

re: #283 teleskiguy

He also followed Hillary Clinton recently.

Trump is bringing us together.

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BigPapa  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:27:31pm

Hannity is a traitor. No dispute there.

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JEA62  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:28:55pm

You can’t shame someone without any morals. And you can’t change the opinion of people who are brainwashed.

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Chrysicat  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:30:59pm

If you can’t trust a meme, what can you trust?

(sarc on the ‘what can you’ part, obvs)

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meteor  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:36:59pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:39:51pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:40:14pm
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MsJ  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:41:02pm

Who posted the “Pam don’t die!” cat video the other day and how do I find it again?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:42:18pm

re: #261 Targetpractice

I said last night that I didn’t expect all these younger voters to show up in November. It seems I will be proven right.

Though midterms usually have much lower voter participation across-the-board than presidential elections. The Democrats advantage in the generic ballot has expanded back out to over 9 points.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:44:39pm

Smoke showing up on radar with the fire burning in my county. I can see a large pyrocumulous cloud out my window, again. #LakeChristineFire

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:45:18pm

re: #272 ObserverArt

It is like everyone when they get older forgetting what they did as youth.

I have voted pretty consistently since the year I graduated high school, but I know many that didn’t when I was college age and a bit older.

I’ve voted in whet electron since I was 18. I rarely voted in primaries as I wasn’t knowledgeable enough in most.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:46:12pm

re: #292 Big Beautiful Door

Though midterms usually have much lower voter participation across-the-board than presidential elections. The Democrats advantage in the generic ballot has expanded back out to over 9 points.

But don’t we need 55-45 in votes to get a bare majority, whereas the GOP has a huge majority despite the vote going 52-48 the other way?

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:48:13pm

re: #295 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Pretty much.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:48:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:50:06pm

re: #297 Patricia Kayden

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You’re either jacking yourself off or complaining. Just resign the Presidency and move in with Vlad.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:51:58pm

re: #295 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

But don’t we need 55-45 in votes to get a bare majority, whereas the GOP has a huge majority despite the vote going 52-48 the other way?

The Democrats are getting close to a 10 point advantage, and they have a shot at winning the House with a lower margin than that.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:53:00pm

re: #287 Chrysicat

If you can’t trust a meme, what can you trust?

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(sarc on the ‘what can you’ part, obvs)

Sophia is a fucking idiot

edited to add more fuck to idiot. Her timeline is derp all the way down.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:53:26pm

re: #289 Patricia Kayden

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I would be all for Stolichnaya sponsoring a fully stocked free bar closed off Ted Nugent concert with full auto guns allowed inside.

Because Freedom.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:55:15pm

re: #289 Patricia Kayden

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I do not understand why Ted wants to endanger his fans lives by preventing them from bringing their guns to his concert.

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KingKenrod  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:57:12pm

The actual percentages in generic ballot polls probably don’t matter that much - they don’t predict election margins. They are a measure of relative enthusiasm.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 4:57:24pm

re: #302 Big Beautiful Door

I do not understand why Ted wants to endanger his fans lives by preventing them from bringing their guns to his concert.

Doesn’t Ted know that gun free zones don’t work!//

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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:03:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:04:02pm

re: #291 MsJ

Who posted the “Pam don’t die!” cat video the other day and how do I find it again?

it was me.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:05:06pm

re: #305 gocart mozart

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Am I losing if I can’t tell if this is a joke or not given the stuff that some of these people complain about.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:05:08pm

Anyway, in the previous thread I posted too late that Bounds defeat gives me a sliver of hope that Kavanaugh can be as well, because it only takes one GOP Senator if the Democrats stay united. I know that Rand Paul has expressed reservations, and I have called him, and I hope all other Kentucky lizards call Paul as well.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:05:44pm

re: #303 KingKenrod

The actual percentages in generic ballot polls probably don’t matter that much - they don’t predict election margins. They are a measure of relative enthusiasm.

Nate Silver thinks its significant, and he has a pretty good sense for these things.

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ObserverArt  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:06:19pm

re: #302 Big Beautiful Door

I do not understand why Ted wants to endanger his fans lives by preventing them from bringing their guns to his concert.

NRA says gun safe zones are far from safe. What gives Teddy? Not the man you think you are?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:07:16pm

re: #308 Big Beautiful Door

Anyway, in the previous thread I posted too late that Bounds defeat gives me a sliver of hope that Kavanaugh can be as well, because it only takes one GOP Senator if the Democrats stay united. I know that Rand Paul has expressed reservations, and I have called him, and I hope all other Kentucky lizards call Paul as well.

I like this strategy. But wouldn’t it take two since Pence can break the tie? Wait I’m sorry. I keep on forgetting McCain hasn’t been voting.

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delilah  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:07:55pm

re: #309 Big Beautiful Door

Nate Silver thinks its significant, and he has a pretty good sense for these things.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:08:04pm

re: #311 HappyWarrior

I like this strategy. But wouldn’t it take two since Pence can break the tie?

No because McCain isn’t available to vote.

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Chrysicat  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:08:38pm

re: #305 gocart mozart

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The 3-quarters-view promo still looks like Aang in a blonde wig to me, but the problem isn’t the chest structure, it’s the facial one :-P

That said, since others have been questioning, @LedZepBoxedSet is on our side, and the TOHO thing is her idea of parody. Not sure how good or effective it is, but she’s not an actual incel psycho.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:09:44pm

re: #313 Big Beautiful Door

No because McCain isn’t available to vote.

The day after he dies the GOP will have his replacement ready to go.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:09:47pm

re: #312 delilah

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Correct, Silver was the only poll aggregator who gave Trump a significant chance of winning, and he got a lot of grief for it, while Wang and others said Clinton was a 99% lock.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:11:21pm

re: #315 Skip Intro

The day after he dies the GOP will have his replacement ready to go.

In the meantime, lets hope the Democrats get to at least 51 Senators in November and McCain lives to see the New Year.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:15:42pm

re: #313 Big Beautiful Door

No because McCain isn’t available to vote.

Yeah I realized my mistake.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:17:01pm

Here is a good sign for the Democrats; challengers have raised more money than GOP incumbents in 56 Districts.

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delilah  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:17:14pm

re: #316 Big Beautiful Door

Correct, Silver was the only poll aggregator who gave Trump a significant chance of winning, and he got a lot of grief for it, while Wang and others said Clinton was a 99% lock.

Did you click the link? That’s not what it says.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:18:28pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:19:15pm

Well, hallelujah! I just got my ballot for the Primary, and right on the front it says “New: No stamp needed to mail your ballot”.

When Oregon started with all mail-in ballots, they were Postage Paid. The Republicans sued, calling it “buying votes” and forced them to require postage. So after Washington went to mail-in, we’ve always had to add a stamp.

Not only was that an illegal Poll Tax, but it discouraged votes from a lot of people who seldom buy stamps any more (And young people never?).

I don’t know what changed, or whether to expect a lawsuit, but if there is one, and it wins, hopefully it won’t change anything before November.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:22:33pm

re: #316 Big Beautiful Door

Correct, Silver was the only poll aggregator who gave Trump a significant chance of winning, and he got a lot of grief for it, while Wang and others said Clinton was a 99% lock.

Yeah he did take a lot of flack for it. We totally underestimated it though I do think Wang was right and did not foresee the fishy business that occured.

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:22:52pm
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delilah  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:23:22pm

re: #319 Big Beautiful Door

Here is a good sign for the Democrats; challengers have raised more money than GOP incumbents in 56 Districts.

I swear I’m not picking on you, but did you see this?

Because the attempts to interfere with our elections are ongoing, I worry people may not know to be vigilant.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:25:59pm

re: #320 delilah

Did you click the link? That’s not what it says.

I did, it gave Trump a 28.6% chance of winning, better than 1 in 4, much better odds than any other poll aggregator. Things with only 1 chance in 4 of happening happen pretty frequently.

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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:26:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:30:47pm

re: #327 gocart mozart

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Is that Dantes our old pal Dantes? And going after Dallek and Foner? Yeah go for it Dinesh. Go after two respected historians who know more about history on their worst day than you do any day.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:31:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:33:20pm

FFS though Dinesh didn’t even know about all the Dixiecrats taht turned Republicans but yeah Dinesh, Bob Dallek and Eric Foner are the frauds. Ironically, Foner has written positively about a certain often maligned 19th century GOP President.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:33:40pm

re: #325 delilah

I swear I’m not picking on you, but did you see this?

Because the attempts to interfere with our elections are ongoing, I worry people may not know to be vigilant.

Of course. I’m glad Rosenstein stated that the DOJ won’t keep evidence of foreign election tampering secret anymore.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:34:21pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:36:59pm
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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:39:09pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:39:52pm
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freetoken  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:40:42pm

Several tornadoes in Iowa today:

spc.noaa.gov

The biggest one appears to have been in Marshalltown:

Looks like downtown has lots of older brick buildings. Typical of the upper Mississippi valley area, like the old Steel belt - the boom years were from the end of the 19th century thru the 1950’s.

Then stagnation, as jobs disappeared.

Anyway, I dislike tornadoes, sad to see old buildings get destroyed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:41:06pm
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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:41:39pm

My Surprised Face. Let me show it to you.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:43:20pm

re: #334 jaunte

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Is that the smallest city to house a major-party convention?

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:43:22pm

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

it was me.

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Thank you so much!!!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:43:40pm

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:45:33pm

re: #334 jaunte

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I didn’t know there was a Charlotte in Russia.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:47:10pm

re: #339 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Is that the smallest city to house a major-party convention?

Charlotte’s bigger than Cleveland isn’t it? Not sure where the Dems should have theirs. AM was suggesting Omaha and while I agree with his premise that we shouldn’t ignore those voters, probably not the best idea IMO since I think it needs to be in a region we struggled in. Wouldn’t mind a reversal of some sorts and doing it in say Pittsburgh, Detroit, or Cleveland and showing the GOP who actually gives a fuck about the working class.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:47:56pm

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’d ask him if Trump ever listens to his truth or just makes his own up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:48:53pm

re: #343 HappyWarrior

Charlotte’s bigger than Cleveland isn’t it? Not sure where the Dems should have theirs. AM was suggesting Omaha and while I agree with his premise that we shouldn’t ignore those voters, probably not the best idea IMO since I think it needs to be in a region we struggled in. Wouldn’t mind a reversal of some sorts and doing it in say Pittsburgh, Detroit, or Cleveland and showing the GOP who actually gives a fuck about the working class.

Lots of cities don’t even bother putting in bids anymore because of the costs involved in hosting the conventions (not the least of which is security).

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:49:33pm

I think the Dems had the right idea: Denver in ‘08 and Charlotte ‘12. Both places that they wanted to grow in and those were places they in fact did though Obama lost NC in 12.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:50:21pm

re: #345 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lots of cities don’t even bother putting in bids anymore because of the costs involved in hosting the conventions (not the least of which is security).

Right. I certainly wouldn’t want it honestly. It’s like the Olympics.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:51:55pm

re: #339 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think the Libertarians were in Anaheim once, but, yeah, not major.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:53:31pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:54:18pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:54:23pm
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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:55:35pm

Go read the Buzzfeed article just so you get the depth of how gullible the right is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:55:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:57:32pm

re: #348 jaunte

I think the Libertarians were in Anaheim once, but, yeah, not major.

Dems had theirs in Charlotte in 2012 didn’t they?

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:58:24pm

re: #352 Belafon

“Guns, freedom, honeypot maybe.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 5:58:25pm

re: #352 Belafon

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Go read the Buzzfeed article just so you get the depth of how gullible the right is.

Oh I think she did more than speak their language wink.

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:00:44pm

re: #265 HappyWarrior

It’s why we need to shut up about the Boomers. I don’t like our generation being blamed for stupid shit but our apathy is exactly why Trump might ended up prevailing in the worst possible way.

Thank you.

There was a big local kerfuffle the other day between some young and old peeps. The young ones didn’t like the positions the older ones were taking and basically said, you’d better change your tone if you want to engage millennials and get them to vote. All I could think of was what if the tables were reversed? What if all the “olds” said, you’d better change your tone or we won’t vote anymore.

Who has the most to lose by not voting? People my age, who are the most reliable voters, will not be around to have to deal with many of the consequences, so it seems that there’s a whole lot more at stake for young people. For them to say they won’t vote if they aren’t cajoled and catered to seems illogical to me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:02:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:03:45pm

re: #357 BeachDem

Thank you.

There was a big local kerfuffle the other day between some young and old peeps. The young ones didn’t like the positions the older ones were taking and basically said, you’d better change your tone if you want to engage millennials and get them to vote. All I could think of was what if the tables were reversed? What if all the “olds” said, you’d better change your tone or we won’t vote anymore.

Who has the most to lose by not voting? People my age, who are the most reliable voters, will not be around to have to deal with many of the consequences, so it seems that there’s a whole lot more at stake for young people. For them to say they won’t vote if they aren’t cajoled and catered to seems illogical to me.

Of course. Don’t get me wrong. I get annoyed at the condescendation towards my generation too but when I see people my age blame the boomers, I want to smack them. We’re not in a generational war IMO. We’re at war with an ideology. There are plenty of obnoxious wingnut assholes my age and there are plenty of progressive minded people like yourself and some of the activists I’ve met in the campaigns I’ve worked on who work their butts off.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:04:08pm

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She was a busy, busy lady.

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danarchy  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:04:33pm

re: #339 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Is that the smallest city to house a major-party convention?

Charlotte isn’t that small. Bigger than Boston, Minneapolis, Tampa. All cities that have recently hosted National conventions.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:06:28pm

re: #352 Belafon

She would make an excellent Viagra overdose antidote.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:07:50pm

An interesting note about the part of Slovakia I’m going to and wehre my family is from. Anyhow, though my family are Slovak nationals, they are ethnically Rusyns. Now, this is a controversial issue. Rusyns often consider themselves Rusyn and I have to agree with them. Most Slovaks are Roman Catholic and are Western Slavic peoples. Rusyns are more likely to be Greek Rite Catholics as my grandmother was before conversion to Roman Catholicism or Orthodox. Tehy are also Eastern Slavs like Ukrainians and Russians. Here’s where things get dicey. Slovakia, where my family still lives, they acknowledge the unique cultural status of the Rusyn people. The Ukrainain government unfortunately does not and sees them as fellow Ukrainians. It escapes me at the moment what Poland, another large Rusyn population center does but I think they’re like the Slovaks. Anyhow, that’s been a proxy war that the Russian and Ukrainian governments have sort of waged there too. No violence as far as I know but while I disagree with the Ukrainian government’s assessment of my cousins cultural identity, I definitely believe in standing by them against Putin harassing their nation.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:08:51pm

re: #361 danarchy

Charlotte isn’t that small. Bigger than Boston, Minneapolis, Tampa. All cities that have recently hosted National conventions.

Prime location for a baseball team should the MLB contract one team and move it or expand IIRC. Ironically, the Twins of Minnepolis were nearly moved there.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:11:27pm

Read the article on Buliva though. Buzzfeed can have good reporting sometimes. She played those gullible idiots perfectly.

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:11:43pm

re: #343 HappyWarrior

Charlotte’s bigger than Cleveland isn’t it? Not sure where the Dems should have theirs. AM was suggesting Omaha and while I agree with his premise that we shouldn’t ignore those voters, probably not the best idea IMO since I think it needs to be in a region we struggled in. Wouldn’t mind a reversal of some sorts and doing it in say Pittsburgh, Detroit, or Cleveland and showing the GOP who actually gives a fuck about the working class.

Dem 2012 convention was in Charlotte and it was a big success.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:12:55pm

re: #360 HappyWarrior

She was a busy, busy lady.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:16:14pm

re: #352 Belafon

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Go read the Buzzfeed article just so you get the depth of how gullible the right is.

“After Butina asked Trump that question about Russia at the town hall, his advisers reportedly watched the video and wondered how that had happened and where she had come from. Trump adviser Steve Bannon told Reince Priebus, who would eventually become Trump’s White House chief of staff, that it was odd that Trump had a fully developed answer to her question.”

That bolded part has me really intrigued.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:19:11pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:24:17pm

This is a great thread if you want to see a dude double, triple and quadruple down on being trash.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:30:39pm

re: #370 goddamnedfrank

This is a great thread if you want to see a dude double, triple and quadruple down on being trash.

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Not surprised.
I’m already sick of the corny one-note jokes, but I know they will continue to fly.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:31:23pm

Sally Yates is on Rachel.

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:31:49pm

Does anyone here follow this twitter account (under wraps in case it’s bogus)

A friend pointed it out to me today and says the guy has been right on point about indictments, etc. That every time he posts a FEATHERS announcement, it comes to pass. She thinks it’s a former high level person. What think you all?

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fern01  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:36:52pm

re: #10 jaunte

Everyone prepare now for the site of Putin staying at Trump’s hotel

It’s a given that trump would stay at a hotel owned by Putin - isn’t Putin too smart to stay in a trump hotel?

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:38:12pm

re: #370 goddamnedfrank

This is a great thread if you want to see a dude double, triple and quadruple down on being trash.

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They didn’t need the best looking one, they need the kne that best spoke right-winger.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:38:26pm

re: #375 fern01

I think he’s too conscious of power symbolism to stay anywhere but his own place.

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austin_blue  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:39:17pm

re: #293 teleskiguy

Smoke showing up on radar with the fire burning in my county. I can see a large pyrocumulous cloud out my window, again. #LakeChristineFire

How far away? What are the winds? In the potential growth line?

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:39:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:39:48pm

we are doomed

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:40:13pm

re: #370 goddamnedfrank

This is a great thread if you want to see a dude double, triple and quadruple down on being trash.

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“didn’t send his best”
He probably did, in fact, send his best. Her appearance would have been a carefully weighed factor in her selection for this job. She would be attractive enough to score with the marks and still look like an earnest, devoted fanatic; and not like, well, a honey pot. They would truly believe in her sincerity and open up accordingly.

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fern01  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:40:23pm

re: #48 Targetpractice

Oh, they still love him, only now the arguments are that while Vlad is a thug, he’s a thug we can work with our thug. You know, just like all the past dictators we cozied up to while insisting we were about freedom and liberty.

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:40:56pm

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:41:56pm

re: #378 austin_blue

How far away? What are the winds? In the potential growth line?

About 20 miles as the crow flies. Winds are steady out of the southwest. Fire is buring in rugged remote terrain, no structures currently threatened.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:43:17pm

re: #373 BeachDem

Click to Reveal

Yeah, I’m familiar with it.

He’s part of the Louise Mensch crew and has some controversial social media history with folks like Malcolm Nance. I don’t mess with that crew at all, but I do think he could have been formerly high level and well connected, just like Mensch was a Conservative politician and political pundit in the UK. That whole bunch is super suspect to me.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:43:35pm

re: #374 goddamnedfrank

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Why?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:44:22pm

re: #383 Skip Intro

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The white flag is a nice touch.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:46:05pm
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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:47:20pm

re: #385 JordanRules

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:47:42pm

re: #388 The Vicious Babushka

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You are the swamp, Jesse. Your former boss made his bones doing shit for Nixon and your other boss is an elderly Aussie who has been sticking his prick in and proclaiming he understands patriotism better than actual Americans for years.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:47:45pm

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

we are doomed

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The Groove Tube - Brown 25

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:47:53pm
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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:48:06pm
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plansbandc  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:50:08pm

re: #393 JordanRules

Been a football fan since I was 5. I am getting closer by the day to being finished with the NFL.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:50:15pm

re: #374 goddamnedfrank

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Compared to this great Rachel with Yates segment that is just even more pathetic. Damn you CNN.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:53:24pm

re: #370 goddamnedfrank

It’s also easy to find an unflattering picture of just about anyone. I’ve seen others where she looks much different, like this one:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:53:35pm

the tweet is real:

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fern01  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:56:49pm

re: #162 Dr. Matt

Such a fucking punk:

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I don’t remember hearing President Obama say one negative word about GWB - despite there were many negative words that could have been said.

I also don’t remember trump saying one word of truth about President Obama.

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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:59:57pm
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MsJ  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:04:47pm

re: #370 goddamnedfrank

This is a great thread if you want to see a dude double, triple and quadruple down on being trash.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:14:28pm

re: #393 JordanRules

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All about appeasing Trump. All dolphin players should kneel just to make a point- you can’t suspend all of us.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:20:47pm

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

Who the hell would trust a guy named “Al Extortion”??

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austin_blue  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:38:35pm

re: #373 BeachDem

Does anyone here follow this twitter account (under wraps in case it’s bogus)

A friend pointed it out to me today and says the guy has been right on point about indictments, etc. That every time he posts a FEATHERS announcement, it comes to pass. She thinks it’s a former high level person. What think you all?

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Chekists are people from the KGB and FSB that since the fall of the USSR see themselves as the Keepers of the Flame.

They, along with a few favored Oligarchs, run the Soviet Union. These are the fabled “100 families” that pull the strings in today’s Russia, and Putin is the puppet master.


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