One of my favorite new bands, the two Long Island brothers who make up the Lemon Twigs mix pop music with Who-style rock, Todd Rundgren eclecticism and goofy musical theater, and make it work beautifully.
Trump’s golf cart rentals in the U.S. have cost taxpayers $300,675 since he took office, according to federal documents that TMZ obtained. https://t.co/Zj2xWxajXr
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) September 10, 2018
Republicans like to talk about “voter fraud.” Truth is, they’re projecting. Opinion | Distinguished persons of the week: End voting fraud! https://t.co/gqfOyKWx7J
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) September 10, 2018
Vice President Mike Pence says he’d agree to take a lie detector test “in a heartbeat” to prove he isn’t the author of an anti-Trump New York Times opinion piece: https://t.co/yadU5bsSRE
— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) September 9, 2018
Please recall that Richard Nixon also ordered & used thousands of lie-detector tests.
And this isn’t the first time Trump has wanted to strap members of his administration into a polygraph. He also wanted to do this for the incessant leaks coming from the WH. https://t.co/9mFXJayRj7— darsky: Crusader for Justice (@darsky) September 10, 2018
re: #2 Patricia Kayden
And since he owns all the courses, that’s money straight to his own pocket.
re: #4 Patricia Kayden
The really stupid thing here is that Lie Detectors can be beaten. That’s why they aren’t admissible in court.
re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg
The really stupid thing here is that Lie Detectors can be beaten. That’s why they aren’t admissible in court.
Given that the sociopathy in the White House is apparently airborne, I’m guessing there’s not an asshole in the building that wouldn’t pass one anyway
re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg
There is a reason they’re called polygraph tests instead of lie detectors. The examiner has to establish a baseline by asking questions the testee doesn’t want to answer to see what happens when he/she is nervous. Then they get to the nitty gritty of did you do it
Pence is just working his and Trump’s marks. That’s all they do.
Glad I set the alarm on my phone to remind me
All systems go for launch of Telstar 18 VANTAGE; team is monitoring weather conditions. Targeting liftoff at 12:00 a.m. EDT, 4:00 UTC. Launch webcast will go live about 15 minutes before liftoff → https://t.co/gtC39uBC7z
— SpaceX (@SpaceX) September 10, 2018
re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg
The really stupid thing here is that Lie Detectors can be beaten. That’s why they aren’t admissible in court.
The really really stupid thing is they don’t detect lies.
At best they may indicate nervousness
The slow ticking of time bombs set off by Brexit:
Arctic sea ice about to hit its minimum for the year, and most of what is left is slush:
NHC Update, 11pm:
Hurricane #Florence is still on track to make landfall in North Carolina on Thursday as a Category 4 — becoming the strongest hurricane to ever make landfall north of South Carolina.
For official updates, follow: @NHC_Atlantic pic.twitter.com/EOOdK9Vbaa— Eric Holthaus (@EricHolthaus) September 10, 2018
This is looking pretty bad. 😕 https://t.co/DX12wz2JDz
— Katie Mack (@AstroKatie) September 10, 2018
#DeltaFire update: Interstate 5, the state’s main north-south transportation artery, will remain closed indefinitely by the raging wildfire.
via @ctuan: https://t.co/VHrMtZ3iG9 pic.twitter.com/KzQ7LHpXYs— San Francisco Chronicle (@sfchronicle) September 10, 2018
re: #15 teleskiguy
It’s looking like all that area at the end of the ‘cone of uncertainty’ are going to get a lot of rain later this week. A foot or more in a lot of places, three feet maybe in others. Not good. If you’re in the area definitely prepare for a long term electricity outage.
A Category 4 storm has maximum sustained winds near its eye at between 130-156 m.p.h.
MsRedSpot is going to North Carolina - on Thursday. :(
re: #19 BlueSpotinAL
She should seriously maybe cancel. I have this sinking feeling Florence is gonna be fucked up.
re: #15 teleskiguy
Various models have been giving different projections, though most are centered on the Carolinas.
Most of the models indicate a slowing once hitting land, and various looping scenarios come up.
All this leads to a major precipitation event.
re: #20 teleskiguy
It is a possibility. Maybe Pat Robertson can pray this one away like he did with Hurricane Gloria. Which hit Mid-Atlantic and New England.
re: #23 BlueSpotinAL
It is a possibility. Maybe Pat Robertson can pray this one away like he did with Hurricane Gloria. Which hit Mid-Atlantic and New England.
When I was in Virginia Beach, he did that with Hugo. South Carolina was very happy for his prayers.
Damn
and this T-0 can continue creeping this morning. The 4 hr launch window started at around 11:28 PM EDT
New T-0 of 12:30 a.m. EDT, 4:30 UTC for weather. Vehicle and payload still look good for launch.
— SpaceX (@SpaceX) September 10, 2018
re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Damn
and this T-0 can continue creeping this morning. The 4 hr launch window started at around 11:28 PM EDTNew T-0 of 12:30 a.m. EDT, 4:30 UTC for weather. Vehicle and payload still look good for launch.
LOL
Pushing T-0 to 12:45 a.m. EDT, 4:45 UTC for weather. Vehicle and payload remain in good health for launch of Telstar 18 VANTAGE.
— SpaceX (@SpaceX) September 10, 2018
LOL. pic.twitter.com/YxWmt72mKz
— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) September 10, 2018
Whoever made this meme you’re a fucking idiot. This is me you assholes. Shana Tova everyone! Happy 5779!!!!! #ShanahTovah #RoshHashanah #funny #HappyNewYear #lchaim #Meme #comedy #rip #ripburtreynolds #burtreynolds #ronjeremy #GAE #goldenartistsentertainment pic.twitter.com/t6YKhdh3pv
— Ron Jeremy (@RealRonJeremy) September 10, 2018
re: #22 freetoken
The Pacific cyclone season has been absolutely gonzo this year.
what a time to be alive pic.twitter.com/YMWACuQfDN
— Jessica Smetana (@jessica_smetana) September 10, 2018
re: #31 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
The President of the United States was Barack Obama the last time the Browns won a game.
Sources: Susan Collins has made a deal with GOP leadership. She is voting “yes” to confirm Kavanaugh.
— TOᑭ ᖇOᑭE TᖇAViS (@TopRopeTravis) September 8, 2018
re: #33 Anymouse 🌹
Whatever does Collins get for all these deals she makes with the GOP “leadership”???
re: #34 freetoken
Whatever does Collins get for all these deals she makes with the GOP “leadership”???
Knowing the GOP these days they probably promised that nothing would happen to her family.
re: #34 freetoken
Whatever does Collins get for all these deals she makes with the GOP “leadership”???
Probably fat sacks of cash.
Days like today, I think maybe it would be a good thing if Olivia Pope’s father were a real person.
I did love that show, but… every single main character (including all the presidential candidates and their running mates and campaign managers and senior aides and most of the cabinet) were murderers. And not in some abstract, bad-policy way. Not in a “gave an order or hired it out” way. They were all murderers in a “with their own two hands in person” kind of way.
Also, the people who went to prison — none of them did what they were convicted of. All of them were grotesquely criminal and deserved locked up, but they all got away with with the actual crimes they committed, then were framed for things that others of them had done.
re: #34 freetoken
Whatever does Collins get for all these deals she makes with the GOP “leadership”???
She doesn’t care. This is a clear signal that she will not run for re-election and she will clear the field for LePage to replace her.
re: #39 Joe Bacon 🌹
Instead of “What’s wrong with Kansas?”, I think we need to start a “What’s wrong with Maine?” meme.
re: #33 Anymouse 🌹
FYI: People from all over the country have already pledged close to $750K to fund @SenatorCollins’ opponent if she votes for Kavanaugh, and the fund has only been open a few days. Looking to top $1M by Monday.
Call. Pledge. Fight. #NoKavanaugh https://t.co/nybm7mRV8B— Jonathan Blaque (@jblaque) September 8, 2018
Maybe the deal was to get some of that sweet Russian interference.
My life encompasses all the Telstars.
I feel old.
re: #34 freetoken
Whatever does Collins get for all these deals she makes with the GOP “leadership”???
I have no freakin’ idea.
Someone over at Wonkette from a different state than Maine said they called her office. When the staffer asked which state, he then said they don’t take opinions from out-of-state. The caller said “why not? Does she take money from out-of-state?”
re: #39 Joe Bacon 🌹
She doesn’t care. This is a clear signal that she will not run for re-election and she will clear the field for LePage to replace her.
Not sure how that would work out. LePage won both times with a minority of the vote, with independents running to split the Democratic votes. An independent running for Senate would be a lot tougher.
Democrats need to learn strategic voting.
re: #47 Anymouse 🌹
I have no freakin’ idea.
Someone over at Wonkette from a different state than Maine said they called her office. When the staffer asked which state, he then said they don’t take opinions from out-of-state. The caller said “why not? Does she take money from out-of-state?”
Yes and I see postings on Facebook that her staff isn’t counting anti-Kavanaugh calls. I’m not surprised since she has been totally corrupt ever since she set foot in the Senate. She won’t even go to the bathroom without Mitch’s permission.
re: #48 Anymouse 🌹
Not sure how that would work out. LePage won both times with a minority of the vote, with independents running to split the Democratic votes. An independent running for Senate would be a lot tougher.
Democrats need to learn strategic voting.
Thanks to Eliot Cutler, LePage got into the Governor’s chair. I fully expect Cutler to do the same thing when LePage runs to replace Collins.
For the NFL fans:
.@NFL My diaper is filled with thick, creamy #sports.
— rob delaney (@robdelaney) September 8, 2014
‘ICC is dead to us’: US to use ‘any means’ to shield citizens & allies from war crime probes https://t.co/Hdo0KwBYL0
— RT (@RT_com) September 10, 2018
The US is becoming a rogue nation. It may be time for the world to consider a blockade of the US.
Ben Garrison, clueless… .
this, friends, is just a transcendent self-own pic.twitter.com/gQFXN5H1ct
— Simon Maloy (@SimonMaloy) September 10, 2018
re: #52 Single-handed sailor
The US is becoming a rogue nation. It may be time for the world to consider a blockade of the US.
I’ll wait to see it from a real outlet, not Russian propaganda.
Trump administration to take tough stance against International Criminal Court https://t.co/P1FIuJu6aZ
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) September 10, 2018
What makes Russia propaganda so insidious is sometimes it’s true.
re: #53 Anymouse 🌹
Ben Garrison, clueless… .
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re: #52 Single-handed sailor
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They’ve already started dumping Treasury securities. I’ve been predicting that along with the rest of the world dumping the dollar as the reserve currency.
re: #57 Joe Bacon 🌹
They’ve already started dumping Treasury securities. I’ve been predicting that along with the rest of the world dumping the dollar as the reserve currency.
But what then are they going to use as reserve currency? With the uncertainty due to the rise of fascist parties in Europe and Brexit, will they switch to the Euro? Someone here may have talked about a basket of currencies, but is that really feasible?
China’s trade surplus with US hits record $31 billion (from @AP) https://t.co/mOWZ9YUfrn
— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) September 9, 2018
Greatest negotiator.
re: #58 Hecuba’s daughter
But what then are they going to use as reserve currency? With the uncertainty due to the rise of fascist parties in Europe and Brexit, will they switch to the Euro? Someone here may have talked about a basket of currencies, but is that really feasible?
Yes because the rest of the world wants to smack Trump down and then kick him in the ass a couple more times!
re: #58 Hecuba’s daughter
But what then are they going to use as reserve currency? With the uncertainty due to the rise of fascist parties in Europe and Brexit, will they switch to the Euro? Someone here may have talked about a basket of currencies, but is that really feasible?
Bitcoin.
re: #10 KGxvi
Dallas cop arrested. Out on $300k bond, per cnn
How the fuck wasn’t she arrested at the scene? I’m pretty sure if anybody other than a cop just kills someone for opening their own door they’d be thrown in jail immediately.
Ten tweets. I can see Mr. Wright expanding this into a post at Stonekettle Station:
Over the last eight years, despite what we heard from President Obama on Friday, this country was struggling. President Obama’s answer was to raise taxes, to double the national debt, to increase regulation, to pass Obamacare into law, to stifle American energy. pic.twitter.com/xtAy7Hfl6s
— Vice President Mike Pence (@VP) September 9, 2018
Pence, “… raise taxes, to double the national debt, to increase regulation, to pass Obamacare into law, to stifle American energy.”
These people are just shameless.
Absolutely shameless.
Here’s a couple of items you’ll note @Vp didn’t address:
1/ https://t.co/HFxyWAeHES— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) September 9, 2018
re: #62 goddamnedfrank
How the fuck wasn’t she arrested at the scene? I’m pretty sure if anybody other than a cop just kills someone for opening their own door they’d be thrown in jail immediately.
I think you have answered your own question, yes?
My apartment complex keeps a massive jar of Starburst in the lobby and it’s slowly turning into a jar of just yellow and orange Starburst because nobody wants those garbage flavors pic.twitter.com/tBWVt4V5Qs
— Peter J. Hasson (@peterjhasson) September 10, 2018
Wow…imagine choosing to take red (the worst flavor) when you have delicious yellow and orange….
1. If you call Starburst by the flavor as opposed to the color you’re a monster. It’s red, orange, yellow, and pink.
2. If you don’t love pink, you’re a sociopath https://t.co/28FkjNkcdV— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) September 10, 2018
There is another scary side to this. Had a discussion with US generals about whether tweets counted as orders. Everyone said, of course not, until it was remarked that SecState Tillerson was fired by tweet. Room went silent.
Untested waters here…— Peter W. Singer (@peterwsinger) September 9, 2018
One dark thirty. Night all.
Tomorrow is indictment Monday!
Well, we can hope. The Fredo’s have to be high on the list.
Maybe Miss Silicon(e) and her husband, Mr. We’re Off The Grid For The Next Two Days Because We Really Really Really Are Orthodox, should also be worried.
Let’s see how strong their faith is if it goes pear shaped.
re: #2 Patricia Kayden
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Why the hell hasn’t the Secret Service bought their own golf carts. Rent a couple of nearby storage units to keep them in and for charging the batteries.
To answer my own question, it makes too much sense.
Up to 90% of the voting machines in Illinois need to be replaced. https://t.co/nTy13Q8OpR
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) September 10, 2018
I’ve always been on the hardware side but I’m pretty sure that’s not how software works.
Without using numbers, how old are you?
— Eric Alper (@ThatEricAlper) September 7, 2018
The Godfather (first one) premiered. https://t.co/pxgDC4jbPs
— Teo (@Teukka72) September 10, 2018
re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg
The really stupid thing here is that Lie Detectors can be beaten. That’s why they aren’t admissible in court.
They know that, it is all about publicity.
re: #58 Hecuba’s daughter
But what then are they going to use as reserve currency? With the uncertainty due to the rise of fascist parties in Europe and Brexit, will they switch to the Euro? Someone here may have talked about a basket of currencies, but is that really feasible?
That is the main issue standing in the way; with instability in Greece and Italy, the Euro is not a viable option, and no other currency is large or strong enough to replace the US Dollar.
re: #59 Single-handed sailor
China’s trade surplus with US hits record $31 billion
This is going to offered up as a reason to raise tariffs even more. Because deficits are bad if they are with other countries.
re: #59 Single-handed sailor
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I though Trump’s tariffs were supposed to fix that. Oh well.
At-risk House Republicans say no to new tax bill https://t.co/SV6XvupnXi
— POLITICO (@politico) September 10, 2018
re: #55 Single-handed sailor
Bolton and other Republicans are afraid that they could end up in the docket at the ICC.
re: #78 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Bolton and other Republicans are afraid that they could end up in the docket at the ICC.
They would be unable to travel outside the country.
I wondered what kind of idiot could hate the new PS4 Spider-Man game and … of course pic.twitter.com/C1Noeukrl6
— Lodestar Frank (@goddamnedfrank) September 10, 2018
Trump expected to declassify Carter Page and Bruce Ohr documents as soon as this week… https://t.co/dKjZXcruTD
— Jonathan Swan (@jonathanvswan) September 9, 2018
Weird, the White House is willing to declassify explosive national security documents but is still keeping much of Brett Kavanaugh’s record a secret.
Something … doesn’t compute. https://t.co/n4OfEX5lNR— Cristian Farias (@cristianafarias) September 10, 2018
re: #81 Patricia Kayden
Weird, the White House is willing to declassify explosive national security documents but is still keeping much of Brett Kavanaugh’s record a secret.
Something … doesn’t compute.
nothing like selective declassification
re: #83 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
From an online dating site:
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I think we have found Patient Zero of the incel epidemic.
Otoh, Andrew may be hoping that this Trumpet sees his ad:
re: #83 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Might as well tell women he’ll club them over the head and carry them back to his cave.
Regarding the OP, The Lemon Twigs attended Hicksville High School, a couple of townships over from where I grew up.
Yes, there really is a Hicksville. It was founded by the son-in-law of Elias Hicks, the Quaker preacher.
re: #87 freetoken
I am afraid to contemplate their explanation, but I wonder if the Flat Erfers can explain cyclonic motion? It results from both convection currents and the Coriolis effect on a round Earth.
Just a random thought.
Here’s a timeline about the steps leading to desegregation of the US military in the years before Truman’s 1948 EO.
Several models show Florence hitting North Carolina on Friday morning, perhaps as the strongest hurricane to hit the US north of South Carolina.
If that isn’t bad enough, several of the models show Florence stops on the coast or just inland and hang out for a couple of days.
By Friday the news cycle will be completely dominated by Florence.
I expect the Administration and the GOP Congress to try and sneak various nefarious things in under the radar.
re: #91 freetoken
By Friday the news cycle will be completely dominated by Florence.
I expect the Administration and the GOP Congress to try and sneak various nefarious things in under the radar.
Like defunding NOAA. Good stuff like that.
The fact that some religious groups are critical of the recommendation to study atheism, secularism, and humanism alongside major religions demonstrates it’s the right recommendation for secondary education https://t.co/iZ4ODtCmVa
— Prof Stavrakopoulou (@ProfFrancesca) September 9, 2018
I really don’t want a visit from Aunt Flo.
The three moles at Trump’s Montana rally.
#plaidshirtguy and my buds pic.twitter.com/A1GUlga5Z9
— Tyler Linfesty (@TLinfesty) September 9, 2018
They were all approached by staffers and asked to leave, because they managed to snag key seats right behind the Fearless Leader and proceeded to be less than worshipful.
re: #93 freetoken
The fact that some religious groups are critical of the recommendation to study atheism, secularism, and humanism alongside major religions demonstrates it’s the right recommendation for secondary education
…because it recognizes that the role of religion in society has changed over the past centuries.
Just one key example: There was a time when the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony and the legal status of marriage were identical. Now we have come to see them as separate issues.
I think that the United States, by recognizing the separation of Church and State, did a lot to advance this worldview.
It’s awake and having trouble with math.
The GDP Rate (4.2%) is higher than the Unemployment Rate (3.9%) for the first time in over 100 years!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 10, 2018
Meaningless comparison, but whatever floats your boat. https://t.co/cSRt8tj4FM
— Wheat-dogg- more stable, more genius than Trumptor (@liguy743) September 10, 2018
Breaking: Mi6 flipped an Fsb spy embedded in the Ru embassy in Rome, his real task was to harvest classified intel about Nato from former DM Pinotti’s staff,he expressed a desire to desert cause Putin is “determined to march towards conflict with the West” https://t.co/RxNEaMLyH0
— Groundhog day (@DreamescapePs) September 10, 2018
re: #98 Teukka
Breaking: Mi6 flipped an Fsb spy embedded in the Ru embassy in Rome, his real task was to harvest classified intel about Nato from former DM Pinotti’s staff,he expressed a desire to desert cause Putin is “determined to march towards conflict with the West”
All through the 90’s, Russia was in such a state of social, political and economic chaos that it was not in a position to take up any conflict with the West over divergent interests.
Now Putin is flipping that situation and doing a successful job of it.
re: #99 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
All through the 90’s, Russia was in such a state of social, political and economic chaos that it was not in a position to take up any conflict with the West over divergent interests.
Now Putin is flipping that situation and doing a successful job of it.
“This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.”
— Admiral Josh Painter in “The Hunt for Red October”
re: #100 Teukka
“This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.”
— Admiral Josh Painter in “The Hunt for Red October”
I think we can be grateful that by the time the USSR fell apart that its military was also in a shambolic state or we could have seen a desperate military coup that might have taken us to the brink of WW3 and beyond.
We cannot compare the current situation with the Cold War, Russia is no longer exporting a world ideology and its ambitions are local and territorial, but those ambitions include bringing the rest of the former Soviet republics back under its sphere of control.
More economics math fail
If the Democrats had won the Election in 2016, GDP, which was about 1% and going down, would have been minus 4% instead of up 4.2%. I opened up our beautiful economic engine with Regulation and Tax Cuts. Our system was choking and would have been made worse. Still plenty to do!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 10, 2018
re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I think we can be grateful that by the time the USSR fell apart that its military was also in a shambolic state or we could have seen a desperate military coup that might have taken us to the brink of WW3 and beyond.
We cannot compare the current situation with the Cold War, Russia is no longer exporting a world ideology and its ambitions are local and territorial, but those ambitions include bringing the rest of the former Soviet republics back under its sphere of control.
Yep, expanding it’s territory, such as the former Soviet republics and other areas formerly under Russian control, such as Finland and Alaska. While the threat of a full global thermonuclear exchange isn’t as high as during the Cold War, there’s a non-negligible risk of a small to medium exchange which will have bad consequences, and the prospect of a plain vanilla war is not that pleasant either…
re: #103 Teukka
Yep, expanding it’s territory, such as the former Soviet republics and other areas formerly under Russian control, such as Finland and Alaska. While the threat of a full global thermonuclear exchange isn’t as high as during the Cold War, there’s a non-negligible risk of a small to medium exchange which will have bad consequences, and the prospect of a plain vanilla war is not that pleasant either…
I think that Finland and Alaska are safe for the foreseeable future, but Putin sees any region with a sizable Russian ethnic diaspora as fair game for “reintegration”. And there are an estimated 20-30 millions Russian stranded outside the Russian Federation, acting as Putin’s Sudetendeutsche.
re: #29 Dave In Austin
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Darwin award contender
A member of our well regulated militia pulls out a gun to show off while in a car with his friends. They tell him to be careful, but he assures them the gun is unloaded. (It’s not.) He fires it, shoots himself in the neck, and dies in the car. https://t.co/cSVM3rv0ZI
— WellRegulatedMilitia (@Well_Regulated_) September 10, 2018
re: #83 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
From an online dating site:
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14 miles away….well, hell, I live in South Carolina, so he’s probably the guy down the walkway.
G’morning people.
I was scrolling through the threads yesterday and saw a comment that made me go back a couple of threads and scroll through more comments. Just thought I’d share.
White. People. Don’t. Get. To. Use. Nigger.
White people also don’t get to tell other people not to worry about a white person’s use of the word nigger.
The fact that *this* community needs to be reminded of that in 2018 is quite literally appalling. There are 3 black people who comment regularly on this site, and I haven’t seen one of them in a couple of months. That bullshit where someone uses it, and everyone ignores, cosigns, or downplays the concerns of the *one person* who had the courage to stick her neck out to mention it…made this a much less safe place for us. The joking around afterward where someone said ‘they rarely use it’, and that seemed to be fine, is actually the point where I stop paying to be here.
This is why we don’t trust you.
re: #88 wheat-dogg
I am afraid to contemplate their explanation, but I wonder if the Flat Erfers can explain cyclonic motion? It results from both convection currents and the Coriolis effect on a round Earth.
Just a random thought.
it’s no use, young man. it’s turtles all the way down.
re: #108 Bass Reeves
G’morning people.
I was scrolling through the threads yesterday and saw a comment that made me go back a couple of threads and scroll through more comments. Just thought I’d share.
White. People. Don’t. Get. To. Use. Nigger.
It is not the word, it’s the context, but there is very little in the way of context where it is not offensive.
re: #109 steve_davis
it’s no use, young man. it’s turtles all the way down.
I really think that a good share of the Flat Earth Movement consists of trolls and/or performance artists seeking attention and/or having fun by cajoling the gullible while confounding and and provoking outrage among people too literal to see through what they are doing.
re: #48 Anymouse 🌹
Not sure how that would work out. LePage won both times with a minority of the vote, with independents running to split the Democratic votes. An independent running for Senate would be a lot tougher.
Democrats need to learn strategic voting.
Maine’s other senator, Angus King, is an independent. Previously, he was governor of Maine for 8 years, also as an independent.
He caucuses with the Dems, he’s more pragmatic than ideological (mildly liberal), does his homework and makes actual sense when doing media appearances.
Thread if you want to see photos of Ivanka pre- and post-cosmetic surgery. She used to look like a female version of Eric and Don Jr., bless her heart.
When you hear Ted Cruz is campaigning against silicone and hair dye. pic.twitter.com/ypKHWXd0jO
— Schooley (@Rschooley) September 9, 2018
re: #108 Bass Reeves
Agreed. The excuse of context was bullshit. You don’t use that word, you don’t put that word in anyone’s mouth.
re: #114 Shropshire Slasher
Don’t ask me how I know stepping on those feels like stepping in cat puke.
I had to say goodbye to my doggie Saturday morning. Stupid asshole cancer can just fuck right off. This is the shit cherry on a shit sundae. Sad doesn’t even cover it. Abby was my best buddy. Fuck.
Meanwhile I see that the fuckery continues non stop. I’m trying to convince and encourage millenials to vote in November. To the point of being a pest. So there’s that. I’m so tired and worn out. The man people in my life are on notice, this girl is taking care of herself for awhile. No one else will, so that is my new job. I’ve been a caregiver in some form or fashion since age 10. I think I deserve a break, a long one.
re: #118 A Mom Anon
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re: #116 Stanley Sea
Agreed. The excuse of context was bullshit. You don’t use that word, you don’t put that word in anyone’s mouth.
context does play a role, I still recall George Carlin’s comment about how “you can prick your finger but don’t finger your prick!”
of course, nuance and context are all but dead in the Twitter feed and talking point-based shouting match of modern political and social discourse.
Not everyone believes, out of respect behind privacy curtain.
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re: #121 Shropshire Slasher
Not everyone believes, out of respect behind privacy curtain.
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re: #121 Shropshire Slasher
I know lot’s of folks that don’t “really” believe they are going to hit the lottery, but still buy a ticket, because it’s so nice to dream. ; )
Not sure of the reliability of the information, but it does make me wonder what other links are going to get buried (pun intended) as Mueller’s investigation continues.
Professor #JosephMifsud, 57, who allegedly acted as a link between #Trump’s campaign and the #Kremlin is “MISSING AND MAY BE DEAD” according to court documents#Papadopoulos said the Professor made the offer to arrange the meeting#MOG#MAGAhttps://t.co/OpAGzAYc8z
— Michael O’Grady (@mog7546) September 9, 2018
re: #124 lizardofid
I know lot’s of folks that don’t “really” believe they are going to hit the lottery, but still buy a ticket, because it’s so nice to dream. ; )
I have adopted the Magnum Lottery pension plan: I buy a lottery ticket every day until I retire. If I have not won by then, I go buy a Magnum .44 and knock off a bank. Even if I get caught, I am then guaranteed meals, medical care and a warm place to stay for the rest of my life…
re: #123 A Mom Anon
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re: #86 wheat-dogg
Regarding the OP, The Lemon Twigs attended Hicksville High School, a couple of townships over from where I grew up.
Yes, there really is a Hicksville. It was founded by the son-in-law of Elias Hicks, the Quaker preacher.
ditto
re: #88 wheat-dogg
I am afraid to contemplate their explanation, but I wonder if the Flat Erfers can explain cyclonic motion? It results from both convection currents and the Coriolis effect on a round Earth.
Just a random thought.
any explanation of anything related to flat earth is nothing but nonsensical rhetorical twaddle
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re: #118 A Mom Anon
I had to say goodbye to my doggie Saturday morning. Stupid asshole cancer can just fuck right off. This is the shit cherry on a shit sundae. Sad doesn’t even cover it. Abby was my best buddy. Fuck.
Meanwhile I see that the fuckery continues non stop. I’m trying to convince and encourage millenials to vote in November. To the point of being a pest. So there’s that. I’m so tired and worn out. The man people in my life are on notice, this girl is taking care of herself for awhile. No one else will, so that is my new job. I’ve been a caregiver in some form or fashion since age 10. I think I deserve a break, a long one.
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re: #102 wheat-dogg
More economics math fail
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re: #134 Mike Lamb
That’s some high density bullshit for this early on a Monday.
tell them what they want to hear and they will listen intently, shutting out everything else around them. that has been a winning approach to date and I only expect it to intensify
re: #102 wheat-dogg
More economics math fail
Unemployment was also 50% from 2008-2016, so our recovery is even all the more amazing. MAGA!
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re: #134 Mike Lamb
That’s some high density bullshit for this early on a Monday.
He is (choose one)
(1) deluded
(2) ignorant
(3) hopelessly confused
(4) hoping he can hoodwink his idiot MAGAts with numbers
(5) all of the above.
re: #94 Shropshire Slasher
I really don’t want a visit from Aunt Flo.
Morning!
I sure as hell hope this isn’t another hurricane like Ike in 2008. That storm not only tore the hell out of Texas, it continued to rip the hell out of middle America and up into Canada.
I remember the 80 mph winds that hit late the Sunday that weekend. Nothing like I’ve ever seen in Ohio before. Just Columbus alone had over 300,000 power outages, and the wind damage to roofs and anything that wasn’t tied down was extreme. Blue tarps over roofs all over the city.
Hoping for some kind of a change in it’s path to either turn it away from the coast or lessens its effects.
re: #138 wheat-dogg
He is (choose one)
(1) deluded
(2) ignorant
(3) hopelessly confused
(4) hoping he can hoodwink his idiot MAGAts with numbers
(5) all of the above.
its a trick question, right?
i choose 5
then i choose 1, 2, 3, and 4 for added emphasis
Meanwhile, in my neck of the woods, one of the nearby water mains has bust a leak, and the upper floors of several apartment buildings have no water pressure. That includes the one where all the foreign teachers live. I’m on the second floor, so I am OK, but some of my colleagues are way past peeved that they will have no water till tomorrow. One is fuming mad that “no one told me I would not have water until tomorrow!! I’m writing the president of the university a letter!!”
In fact, we have a WeChat group for all the teachers in the building, of which she is a member, and we were notified early this morning. When we called her attention to it, she then complained it said “this afternoon” but now the water will be off until tomorrow afternoon, so it’s somehow our fault.
She is also acting like it is impossible to get a hotel room at 8:00 at night.
Takeaway from our three polls of Indiana, Missouri and Tennessee: Dems have a clear path to win back the Senate.
Is it the most likely outcome? No.
But is it more in play than people think? Yes. https://t.co/NkAxonM16y— Mark Murray (@mmurraypolitics) September 7, 2018
re: #143 Belafon
Takeaway from our three polls of Indiana, Missouri and Tennessee: Dems have a clear path to win back the Senate.
I know it is an overly optimistic scenario
so imagine them winning back House and Senate and initiating impeachment hearings against DJT
RW spin: “How is that Trump, after doing such a great job for two years, is suddenly being treated as a criminal? Witch Hunt!!!”
re: #83 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
From an online dating site:
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With pink curtains and a sparkly, dangly chandelier? Good grief.
re: #83 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
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I think we have found Patient Zero of the incel epidemic.
Needs to add something about Nike-shoe-burning.
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re: #145 retired cynic
With pink curtains and a sparkly, dangly chandelier? Good grief.
he has some very deep-seated issues
re: #108 Bass Reeves
G’morning people.
I was scrolling through the threads yesterday and saw a comment that made me go back a couple of threads and scroll through more comments. Just thought I’d share.
White. People. Don’t. Get. To. Use. Nigger.
White people also don’t get to tell other people not to worry about a white person’s use of the word nigger.
The fact that *this* community needs to be reminded of that in 2018 is quite literally appalling. There are 3 black people who comment regularly on this site, and I haven’t seen one of them in a couple of months. That bullshit where someone uses it, and everyone ignores, cosigns, or downplays the concerns of the *one person* who had the courage to stick her neck out to mention it…made this a much less safe place for us. The joking around afterward where someone said ‘they rarely use it’, and that seemed to be fine, is actually the point where I stop paying to be here.
This is why we don’t trust you.
Since I am one of the people you are obviously addressing I want to mention I had no problem with the person mentioning she was upset by the comment.
I used one word that was key, and maybe not totally understood and that was “emotional” and it will be hard to explain it if you don’t know why I used it.
I also used the word “surprised” and stated that I didn’t think it would be done again.
If no one understands why I posted what I did, all I can say is it is personal because of what happened a few weeks ago.
And that is not made to be an excuse. I totally understand what you are saying.
I also said I was trying to use some understanding a few comments later.
Sometimes understanding is good going both ways.
From my standpoint, I’d like to see no one use it. It creates issues and allows excuses. It would be fine by me if it was wiped from our lexicon completely.
re: #145 retired cynic
With pink curtains and a sparkly, dangly chandelier? Good grief.
At first glance, I thought it was a parody of a grinder profile. Then a real Grinder profile. Then not one.
Yeah, he’s outa luck, like this Kyle dude.
Easy things to ask on a first date that tell you whether a girl is worth deeper investment:
* Relationship with father
* Sexual past
* Views on children
* Attitude towards men
* Ability to cook/clean/domestic duties
All can easily be woven into a first date conversation.— Kyle Trouble (@KyleTrouble) September 8, 2018
re: #149 wheat-dogg
At first glance, I thought it was a parody of a grinder profile. Then a real Grinder profile. Then not one.
Yeah, he’s outa luck, like this Kyle dude.
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re: #149 wheat-dogg
At first glance, I thought it was a parody of a grinder profile. Then a real Grinder profile. Then not one.
Yeah, he’s outa luck, like this Kyle dude.
The last one is a real kicker.
re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
So true. Come to think about it, all ethnic slurs should be off limits. We’re better than that around here, and smarter. I’m another Af-AM, and while I don’t flinch, it’s still ugly. I don’t use it myself in any context.
re: #149 wheat-dogg
Easy things to ask on a first date that tell you whether a girl is worth deeper investment:
* Relationship with father
I have to grant him that the first one is important - if she has or has had a dysfunctional relationship with the first man in her life, it is likely to affect things down the line.
I met this lady in Frankfurt, went to her place for the first time and saw a family picture, asked what her dad did for a living.
“My father is a bastard,” she replied. “I’ll never love him.”
But I ignored that advice and we wound up marrying and stayed that way for 13 years before I gave up trying to deal with some serious emotional problems.
re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I have to grant him that the first one is important - if she has or has had a dysfunctional relationship with the first man in her life, it is likely to affect things down the line.
I met this lady in Frankfurt, went to her place for the first time and saw a family picture, asked what her dad did for a living.
“My father is a bastard,” she replied. “I’ll never love him.”
But I ignored that advice and we wound up marrying and stayed that way for 13 years before I gave up trying to deal with some serious emotional problems.
You really think someone should bring up their relationship with their dad on your first date? The question wasn’t about dysfunctional relationships, it was about her relationship with her dad.
re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
If I asked that many personal questions on a first date, I’d never get the second one. Maybe one is OK, but his whole list reads like an HR questionnaire at a Fortune 500 company.
re: #154 HappyWarrior
You really think someone should bring up their relationship with their dad on your first date? The question wasn’t about dysfunctional relationships, it was about her relationship with her dad.
Not necessarily on a first date, but establishing the nature of her relationship with her parents is important before you get too involved. I found that out the hard way.
btw, I was just asking what her dad did for a living, she was the one who volunteered to tell me that he was an unloving bastard.
Needless to say “domestic duties” is a real zinger of a topic to bring up using those terms at any point.
re: #155 wheat-dogg
If I asked that many personal questions on a first date, I’d never get the second one. Maybe one is OK, but his whole list reads like an HR questionnaire at a Fortune 500 company.
He’s trying to set the terms of the relationship. I’m sure he’ll get a lot of them that way.
re: #156 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Not necessarily on a first date, but establishing the nature of her relationship with her dad is important before you get too involved. I found that out the hard way.
Her dad or any parent. The guy specifically brought up the father. The first date should be about whether finding out if your interests are compatible. Not some deep psych evaluation like Kyle wants out of his lady.
I’m not the best at the dating game I concede but I usually use the first date to find out about what kind of music, movies, entertainment, etc we like, some small bits about family: siblings, parents, nieces/nephews, places we’ve traveled to, etc. I don’t know. I don’t think it’s right to ask someone you just met about their relationship with their parents. That’s something I understand you do as the relationship gets more intimate. That he singled out father was telling to me.
re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I know it is an overly optimistic scenario
so imagine them winning back House and Senate and initiating impeachment hearings against DJT
RW spin: “How is that Trump, after doing such a great job for two years, is suddenly being treated as a criminal? Witch Hunt!!!”
They would have to do more than take back the senate, they would need 2/3 of the senate to actually remove him. I don’t see any scenario where that happens. They could certainly impeach him. At least he would go down in history as one of the very few presidents ever to be impeached, but it may also motivate republican voters like nothing else could for 2020.
re: #158 HappyWarrior
Her dad or any parent. The guy specifically brought up the father. The first date should be about whether finding out if your interests are compatible. Not some deep psych evaluation like Kyle wants out of his lady.
exactly, like I said, I was just asking a few general questions about her family and found out about her dominant dad and her passive-aggressive mom…
but she played fiddle.
I have a weakness for fiddle players.
Most recent fiddle player GF had a somewhat healthier relationship to her dad, but there were some issues that I started to notice later.
Also should have been a clue when she told me that although her mom and dad were still married, they had not shared a bed since she was young…
re: #160 danarchy
They would have to do more than take back the senate, they would need 2/3 of the senate to actually remove him. I don’t see any scenario where that happens. They could certainly impeach him. At least he would go down in history as one of the very few presidents ever to be impeached, but it may also motivate republican voters like nothing else could for 2020.
it would also allow them to subpoena a lot of very damaging evidence
re: #159 HappyWarrior
I’m not the best at the dating game I concede but I usually use the first date to find out about what kind of music, movies, entertainment, etc we like, some small bits about family: siblings, parents, nieces/nephews, places we’ve traveled to, etc. I don’t know. I don’t think it’s right to ask someone you just met about their relationship with their parents. That’s something I understand you do as the relationship gets more intimate. That he singled out father was telling to me.
He’s looking for a particular kind of woman, fitting some ideal roles he carries in his head. It’s the same motivation for some Western guys who hook up with Asian women, expecting them to be meek and submissive. Hint: they ain’t, especially after you’re married and they take control of the family finances.
Maybe I’m weird, but I don’t want the first date to be a job interview.
From Balloon Juice, some tweets on why diversity is important:
8/People from diverse backgrounds are constantly struggling to understand each other better, to take each other’s divergent family histories and cultural backgrounds into account, in order to get along at work, at school, in marriages, etc.
That effort strengthens us.— Noah Smith (@Noahpinion) September 9, 2018
9/Our institutions, too — schools, companies, etc. - are forced to take more of an account of people’s backgrounds than they would if they could simply assume that everyone came from the same background.
Diversity means we can’t expect or force people to fall in line.— Noah Smith (@Noahpinion) September 9, 2018
13/But if we succeed - if we CONTINUE to succeed - then I believe the payoff will be unique and unmatched.
A country with institutions strong enough not to have to rely on homogeneity will be the strongest country imaginable.
The America experiment must continue.
(end) pic.twitter.com/XbCSPjeOhA— Noah Smith (@Noahpinion) September 9, 2018
re: #152 CarolJ
So true. Come to think about it, all ethnic slurs should be off limits. We’re better than that around here, and smarter. I’m another Af-AM, and while I don’t flinch, it’s still ugly. I don’t use it myself in any context.
i dont use it either - mostly because i have no need or context
however i think intent and purpose matter
i listen to a lot of raw-dog comedy on sirius radio. it’s thrown around a lot and often is funny. or just a meaningless throwaway filler word
richard pryor is not david duke
a white comedian whose name i cant recall had a bit explaning that he was ‘adopted’ by his black buddies and got ‘permission’ to use it. he got in trouble when he used it in front of a different group of black youth. it was very funny
i just finished re-watching ‘in the heat of the night’
1967 times were different - both on screen and off
and the movie stands up just fine
the racism is overt and obvious
‘that word’ was used 7 times. it was clear who was using it and why
words are not things
words have more than one meaning and use
and yes they evolve over time
withouth knowing the meaning and intent behind the choice of any word they are just sounds
Dating…
Been married for almost 12 years.
Not that I’d ever consider divorcing my wife but I’d probably put up with anything not to date again.
re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
it would also allow them to subpoena a lot of very damaging evidence
I forget which committees they are, but the head of those committees can access the president’s taxes.
also in the heat of the night there were lots of “boy” and one “whitey”
Stanley, you around? I haven’t gloated about Saturday night yet.
re: #163 wheat-dogg
Maybe I’m weird, but I don’t want the first date to be a job interview.
That is not at all weird.
re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
That is not at all weird.
I was being facetious.
re: #165 dangerman
words are not things
words have more than one meaning and use
and yes they evolve over timewithouth knowing the meaning and intent behind the choice of any word they are just sounds
context and nuance are difficult things for some to master
And on that note, it’s time for bed in the Middle Kingdom, which still sells a shit-ton of stuff to the USA.
re: #169 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
Stanley, you around? I haven’t gloated about Saturday night yet.
Haha. Congrats!
We suck.
re: #173 wheat-dogg
And on that note, it’s time for bed in the Middle Kingdom, which still sells a shit-ton of stuff to the USA.
the bulk of our economy is about marketing and selling things that are produced abroad
re: #166 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
Dating…
Been married for almost 12 years.
Not that I’d ever consider divorcing my wife but I’d probably put up with anything not to date again.
I don’t know how some people get married several times. Dating just exhausts me but I’m an Aspie weirdo with no small talk skills.
Models throwing up all sorts of scary scenarios for NC.
Here is the GFS model which shows Florence being an extremely strong hurricane as it hits NC, late Thursday night local time:
And after two days, notice how little Florence has moved:
Other models have Florence as not quite so strong, but even then worse because there is more rain, and all seem to indicate that the cyclone could hang around for several days.
re: #164 Belafon
From Balloon Juice, some tweets on why diversity is important:
Hey, c’mon, Tucker was just ‘asking questions’.
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Regarding the “N” word and Saturday’s postings.
I wouldn’t mind Charles’ input on it.
As pointed out, it used to be ‘filtered’ but I can’t say I remember how that worked because I never typed it and I have no idea if some posters did their own modifications.
re: #176 HappyWarrior
I don’t know how some people get married several times. Dating just exhausts me but I’m an Aspie weirdo with no small talk skills.
Yes, my past partners were people I just enjoyed hanging out and talking with about any number of subjects.
I need a woman who has some art or poetry or music in her that speaks to me.
I recall a girlfriend from New Jersey with her Northern NJ accent saying “Depth. I like depth. Depth in art, depth in music, depth in people.”
Kind of a shame I let that one get away.
re: #175 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
the bulk of our economy is about marketing and selling things that are produced abroad
A very large fraction of our economy is the nonproductive effort of determining who is entitled to have these things—ascertaining if they have the right pieces of paper in their pocket or the right bits in a computer somewhere, preventing them from getting these things if they don’t, and detecting when they get these things if they’re not allowed to and punishing them for it. An absolute drain with nothing to show for it.
re: #179 ObserverArt
Regarding the “N” word and Saturday’s postings.
I wouldn’t mind Charles’ input on it.
As pointed out, it used to be ‘filtered’ but I can’t say I remember how that worked because I never typed it and I have no idea if some posters did their own modifications.
My mom did not mind me using certain words in certain contexts. It was okay to say that there was dog shit on the lawn but got upset when I called someone a shithead.
re: #179 ObserverArt
Regarding the “N” word and Saturday’s postings.
I wouldn’t mind Charles’ input on it.
As pointed out, it used to be ‘filtered’ but I can’t say I remember how that worked because I never typed it and I have no idea if some posters did their own modifications.
It was filtered, I believe because of the old guard that I’m assuming had been using it way too frequently. He recently removed the filter because it was blocking it and other words, namely the one that got Samantha Bee some flack, under the assumption that those of us remaining were adults and would use it in very specific circumstances.
re: #181 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
A very large fraction of our economy is the nonproductive effort of determining who is entitled to have these things—ascertaining if they have the right pieces of paper in their pocket or the right bits in a computer somewhere, preventing them from getting these things if they don’t, and detecting when they get these things if they’re not allowed to and punishing them for it. An absolute drain with nothing to show for it.
And traditional bookkeeping is all but outdated because corporations rarely own anything that can be objectively assessed, they lease or outsource nearly everything and own only licenses and rights to brands and processes.
re: #183 Belafon
It was filtered, I believe because of the old guard that I’m assuming had been using it way too frequently. He recently removed the filter because it was blocking it and other words, namely the one that got Samantha Bee some flack, under the assumption that those of us remaining were adults and would use it in very specific circumstances.
I haven’t commented at Balloon Juice for a dog’s age—does their filter still block the word “shoes”? And “socialism” because it has “Cialis” in the middle?
The GDP Rate (4.2%) is higher than the Unemployment Rate (3.9%) for the first time in over 100 years!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 10, 2018
Since 1948, there have been 63 quarters with a GDP growth rate higher than avg quarterly unemployment rate
Recent Quarters with GDP Growth higher than Unemployment Rate:
•Q2 2018
•Q1 2006
•Q3 2003
•Q2 2000
•Q4 1999
•Q3 1999
•Q4 1998
•Q3 1998
•Q3 1997
•Q2 1997
•Q2 1996 https://t.co/xc873PMf6K— Fox News Research (@FoxNewsResearch) September 10, 2018
Awkward!
re: #183 Belafon
It was filtered, I believe because of the old guard that I’m assuming had been using it way too frequently. He recently removed the filter because it was blocking it and other words, namely the one that got Samantha Bee some flack, under the assumption that those of us remaining were adults and would use it in very specific circumstances.
Well, that seems to have caused some issues.
Then again…does a filter just mask an intent?
I don’t know how you do it either. I just don’t think Ski meant any offense but I do understand why the word shouldn’t be used.
re: #188 HappyWarrior
Awkward.
When even Fox News feels compelled to correct the Fearless Leader, that is major awkward.
[trump] I’M NOT LYING, I’M MAKING IT UP. [/trump]
Well damn,
I hadn’t seen this earlier. Now I know why Rob Portman is all in on Brett Kavanaugh.
This was from back on July 12th.
re: #150 HappyWarrior
Got a lot of guys out there who think they’re entitled to women.
Not just any woman, but a woman who is classically beautiful and willing to be their sex slave, maid and mommy…beck and call and all that. They want a living, breathing, but not speaking Real Doll.
re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I have to grant him that the first one is important - if she has or has had a dysfunctional relationship with the first man in her life, it is likely to affect things down the line.
I met this lady in Frankfurt, went to her place for the first time and saw a family picture, asked what her dad did for a living.
“My father is a bastard,” she replied. “I’ll never love him.”
But I ignored that advice and we wound up marrying and stayed that way for 13 years before I gave up trying to deal with some serious emotional problems.
How someone gets along with family is huge. I hate drama and going into someone else’s family drama is too much for me to deal with.
That said, what this guy is doing is interviewing instead of living. A date should be fun and exploratory. If you are actively looking for an out, which he is, the date and any possibility of a relationship will fail.
And, bam! You’re an incel.
re: #194 MsJ
Not just any woman, but a woman who is classically beautiful and willing to be their sex slave, maid and mommy…beck and call and all that. They want a living, breathing, but not speaking Real Doll.
He wants the sort of woman that his Victorian father of the landed gentry would have selected for him as a good match, one rife with all the virtues of the 19th century.
re: #195 MsJ
How someone gets along with family is huge. I hate drama and going into someone else’s family drama is too much for me to deal with.
That said, what this guy is doing is interviewing instead of living. A date should be fun and exploratory. If you are actively looking for an out, which he is, the date and any possibility of a relationship will fail.
And, bam! You’re an incel.
Again, not the sort of thing I would get into on a first date, but in this case, the woman volunteered that information when I was just asking general questions about what her dad did for a living.
I guess that said enough in itself, but I ignored the warning signs.
re: #118 A Mom Anon
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re: #164 Belafon
Tucker Carlson and his ilk are living proof that we might fail. They are the failure mode.
Deserves as many updings as possible for this insight/truth…
JFC, this thread. Damn.
FOR YOU PEOPLE WHO KEEP TWEETING OVER AND OVER ABOUT HOW BILL CLINTON IS A DEMOCRATIC SEX PERVERT - THIS THREAD IS FOR YOU:
— 🧛♂️🔮Pirate on a Deadline: EEEK! ⌨️ (@PirateWench) September 10, 2018
Morning, all. We got back from a long weekend far from TV, phones, and internet. It was restful. Fortunately we were southeast of the Delta fire (north of Redding) and mostly away from the smoke. On the other hand, the drive home was very smoky because of that fire and another one that started over the weekend in Napa County. Sigh.
I-5 is still closed north of Redding, with a very long, slow detour around the fire due to a lack of other roads up there. It did make traffic pretty light coming back home yesterday because there is no route for trucks around the fire. As I said, we weren’t directly affected, but my brother and sister-in-law are headed up to Oregon today. I’m glad it’s not me. I’m sure they’re trying to get I-5 open again ASAP (see the part about no way for trucks to get through) but the area hadn’t burned in over a century, so there’s lots of fuel.
On the good side, we had a lovely time with the kids and their significant others.
And how old am I without numbers (or dates, or whatever it was?) Tenzing Norgay and Edmund Hillary summited Everest.
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re: #186 Ace-o-aces
Ouch!!! That’s got to sting for Trump and his ilk. Most of that data is from the Clinton years.
re: #118 A Mom Anon
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How old am I without numbers? Adlai Stevenson nominated.
re: #205 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
How old am I without numbers? Adlai Stevenson nominated.
How old am I without numbers?
Here ya go.
Is there any truth to this pic.
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re: #207 Dr Lizardo
How old am I without numbers?
Here ya go.
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re: #113 wheat-dogg
Thread if you want to see photos of Ivanka pre- and post-cosmetic surgery. She used to look like a female version of Eric and Don Jr., bless her heart.
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re: #208 Teukka
Is there any truth to this pic.
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Yeah: I get a “Your Account temporarily locked” notice from FB trying to follow the link. ¿Que pasa?
AAACK! Liked it better when blocked….
But no, looks photoshopped to me (face looks badly matched to head).
gosh, I really do not care what consenting adults do for fun in private in their spare time, it is only of interest when subsequent hush money payments violate campaign finance laws…
re: #213 Jay C
Yeah: I get a “Your Account temporarily locked” notice from FB trying to follow the link. ¿Que pasa?
Wat. Updated with locally saved pic. Reload.
re: #216 Jay C
I did.
And regret it.
See #213.
That I don’t understand. I saved the pic because the status post link was broken.
Hurricane #Florence this morning as seen from @Space_Station. A few moments later, #Isaac & the outer bands of #Helene were also visible. pic.twitter.com/WJQfS4au4m
— Ricky Arnold (@astro_ricky) September 10, 2018
As I said, #Florence is a HUGE storm. And two *additional* storms are chasing its tail.
This is #HurricaneFlorence as seen from space. Note its size in comparison to the curvature of planet Earth:https://t.co/oooNKIJcXD pic.twitter.com/rRMkn4CiG7— Leah McElrath (@leahmcelrath) September 10, 2018
re: #208 Teukka
Is there any truth to this pic.
I’m going to assume it’s a photoshop unless other evidence comes forth. Feels far too much like someone out for clicks/shares.
re: #220 gocart mozart
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“curvature of planet Earth”
Wrong… if that guy with the home made rocket could have gotten higher than a kite (pun!) he would tell you there is no curvature!
Yes… / … the earth is a sphere formed by gravity. Fort Collins a few miles away from me here in CO has a large group of mostly middle aged old men who are part of the “Flat Earth Society” and they are nuts.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
— 🧛♂️🔮Pirate on a Deadline: EEEK! ⌨️ (@PirateWench) September 10, 2018
That’s my former mayor.
re: #222 CongoJack
“curvature of planet Earth”
Wrong… if that guy with the home made rocket could have gotten higher than a kite (pun!) he would tell you there is no curvature!
Yes… / … the earth is a sphere formed by gravity. Fort Collins a few miles away from me here in CO has a large group of mostly middle aged old men who are part of the “Flat Earth Society” and they are nuts.
again, I am sure a lot of them are just trolls or “performance artists” who dig the outrage and the attention it gets them
re: #221 Interesting Times
I’m going to assume it’s a photoshop unless other evidence comes forth. Feels far too much like someone out for clicks/shares.
Here’s an ELA of it: fotoforensics.com
re: #211 Skip Intro
You can see she’s had some serious work done to her kidneys.
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You can also see she’s not orthodox observant. That dress…
re: #211 Skip Intro
You can see she’s had some serious work done to her kidneys.
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Is okay to say she looks better smaller?
re: #229 ObserverArt
Is okay to say she looks better smaller?
you know, I find that when it comes to women, it is a matter of overall proportions, over-sized breasts on a small figure are not necessarily more appealing
re: #174 Stanley Sea
Haha. Congrats!
We suck.
The young man who caught the first TD pass- I coached in High School.
And My High School team made SportsCenter Top Ten plays on Friday night (#2)
Lawyer Once Known as ‘The DWI Guy’ arrested for DWAI
Syracuse attorney Tom Anelli, who for years advertised heavily on radio airwaves as being “The DWI Guy,” was taken into custody by State Police Friday evening in Liverpool.
Troopers tell CNYCentral, a woman who had been a passenger in Anelli’s vehicle reported they got into a verbal argument and she left the vehicle and was walking along Tulip Street in Liverpool at about 9:30 p.m.
I wonder if he will represent himself…
re: #233 Shropshire Slasher
Lawyer Once Known as ‘The DWI Guy’ arrested for DWAI
I wonder if he will represent himself…
better call Saul
re: #200 MsJ
JFC, this thread. Damn.
They never should have let Bill Clinton have those third and fourth terms.
When you hear Ted Cruz is campaigning against silicone and hair dye. pic.twitter.com/ypKHWXd0jO
— Schooley (@Rschooley) September 9, 2018
re: #232 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
The young man who caught the first TD pass- I coached in High School.
And My High School team made SportsCenter Top Ten plays on Friday night (#2)
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tag ur favorite pro-life guy #KavanaghHearing pic.twitter.com/wxwvoJBE3A
— Liz Plank (@feministabulous) September 7, 2018
jeebus…she is nutz
“‘If in fact (Kavanaugh) was not truthful, then obviously that would be a major problem for me,’ Collins said.” https://t.co/nrYOPq1uhN
— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) September 10, 2018
re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth
jeebus…she is nutz
She is what happens when you twist yourself beyond your elasticity point.
re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth
jeebus…she is nutz
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If she was truly “moderate”, Collins would never consider confirming a political operative dressed up as a judge.
re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth
jeebus…she is nutz
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Ah, good ol’ Republican street theater. “Oh, I’m so conflicted, I’m not sure about this, I need all the facts…but I’m pretty sure I’m going to vote with the rest of my party anyway.”
those last few frames tho…
Hurricane #Florence making a run at Category 5 right now. pic.twitter.com/I4iJh0xK3r— Eric Holthaus (@EricHolthaus) September 10, 2018
It measures the height of the cloud tops. The stronger the storm, the higher the clouds. Dark red/black is very strong, and if you start seeing white and pink mixed in there, likely a cat 5 system.
— I Want Off This Ride (@VinceValence) September 10, 2018
Ceremony sees people from 68 countries receive Irish citizenship https://t.co/gu992YLGDl
— The Irish Times (@IrishTimes) September 10, 2018
Those holding a Polish nationality made up 85 of the newly proclaimed Irish citizens, representing the largest share of any national background.
The second-largest representation went to the United Kingdom, with 47 British recipients in total at Monday’s ceremony.
David Bacon, originally from England, had arrived in Ireland in 2005 with his Irish wife, Aisling, whom he had wed in 2001. Now an Offaly resident himself, he sees Ireland as his home and says he very much identifies with Irish culture and life, adding, “I always thought about citizenship, and when Brexit landed I knew I had to do it sooner rather than later.”
I’ll save Collins and Murkowski the time, the voters are not going to forgive you for voting to confirm Kavanaugh if you hem and haw a lot about being “uncertain.” You’re not some newbie senators who are “feeling out” the role, you’re veterans with reputations as “moderates” who still vote with the party 9 times outta 10. So the more noise you make, the more obvious it becomes that you’re putting on a show when your minds are already made up. If you’re going to vote to confirm, then drop the act and be honest with the voters. This is the wrong year to play them for saps.
re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Not to brag on my second great grandfather’s home but Ireland seems to have avoided a lot of the alt-right bs that our country and the Brits are facing. They’ve had their problems for sure but Ireland seems to be moving forward. Their current Taoseach (Prime Minister basically) is an openly gay son of an Indian immigrant and native Irish woman. I’m glad to see they’re being so welcoming because there’s a great saying I hear about what it means to be Irish and ti should apply to our country, that it’s not about race but a desire to be part of the nation.
re: #248 HappyWarrior
Not to brag on my second great grandfather’s home but Ireland seems to have avoided a lot of the alt-right bs that our country and the Brits are facing. They’ve had their problems for sure but Ireland seems to be moving forward. Their current Taoseach (Prime Minister basically) is an openly gay son of an Indian immigrant and native Irish woman. I’m glad to see they’re being so welcoming because there’s a great saying I hear about what it means to be Irish and ti should apply to our country, that it’s not about race but a desire to be part of the nation.
and they understand what it means to be able to have a nation willing to take in people looking for a better life
Gotta love Australian racism:
My toon in today’s @theheraldsun on #SerenaWilliams @usopen pic.twitter.com/didwtQg1R5
— Mark Knight (@Knightcartoons) September 10, 2018
re: #222 CongoJack
“curvature of planet Earth”
Wrong… if that guy with the home made rocket could have gotten higher than a kite (pun!) he would tell you there is no curvature!
Yes… / … the earth is a sphere formed by gravity. Fort Collins a few miles away from me here in CO has a large group of mostly middle aged old men who are part of the “Flat Earth Society” and they are nuts.
Ursula K. Leguin - a bit paraphrased
Well … The sun rises in the east. To pretend the sun can rise in the west is a fiction, to claim that it does so as fact (or “alternative fact”) is a lie.
A lie is a non-fact deliberately told as fact. Lies are told in order to reassure oneself, or to fool, or scare, or manipulate others. Santa Claus is a fiction. He’s harmless. Lies are seldom completely harmless, and often very dangerous. In most times, most places, by most people, liars are considered contemptible.
to claim the earth is ‘flat’ is a lie.
nothing more than rhetorical word play
it couldnt be done with any science because it is not reality
crackpots
Good on her for calling it as it is:
My toon in today’s @theheraldsun on #SerenaWilliams @usopen pic.twitter.com/didwtQg1R5
— Mark Knight (@Knightcartoons) September 10, 2018
Well done on reducing one of the greatest sportswomen alive to racist and sexist tropes and turning a second great sportswoman into a faceless prop. https://t.co/YOxVMuTXEC
— J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) September 10, 2018
re: #249 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
and they understand what it means to be able to have a nation willing to take in people looking for a better life
Yes, I think that’s part of why the Irish haven’t fallen victim to the nasty nativism that’s risen in the UK, France, Germany, and other places.
re: #252 electrotek
Ms Rowling hit the nail on the head.
re: #200 MsJ
JFC, this thread. Damn.
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There’s also a beautiful tribute in Ireland to the Creek Tribe I believe who despite all they had gone through here in America still lent out a helping hand during the Famine years in Ireland. Ireland’s got its flaws like any other nation. For years, they were way way too tied to the church’s whims on issues like abortion, divorce, and homosexuality but it does encourage me that the country is moving forward on a lot of key issues and has become a welcoming place to newcomers just as families like my own were once here and elsewhere.
My best advice to Collins and Murkowski is to approach Kavanaugh as if Obama or Hillary had nominated him. Would you be so on the fence for a Dem nominee where 80-90% of their total record was being withheld on “confidentiality” grounds? Would you support the nomination of a Dem candidate who feels a president can’t be subpoeaned by a Dem president under investigation for obstruction of justice? If a Dem nominee was facing accusations of having committed perjury multiple times, would you be saying in public that you’re “uncertain”? If that Dem nominee was a figure in some of the most controversial decisions of the Obama administration, would you be actively considering to confirm them?
If the answer to any of the above is “No,” but you’re still going to confirm Bob Kavanaugh anyway, then you’re wasting all our time by suggesting you’re in any way “conflicted.”
@Theheraldsun is OK with open racism? That’s disappointing.
— Jeff “We call BS” Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) September 10, 2018
re: #260 Targetpractice
My best advice to Collins and Murkowski is to approach Kavanaugh as if Obama or Hillary had nominated him.
I have long stopped asking “What if Obama had done it?” That is the point. They voted for the anti-Obama, the anti-Hillary, the anti-politician, the anti-statesman.
They got it and we are going to be stuck cleaning up the mess for decades to come.
re: #261 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
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re: #261 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
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re: #263 electrotek
It’s a Murdoch-owned outlet, of course they’re fine with it.
again: she is a woman, a black woman, and a successful black woman.
brings out the worst in them
re: #264 Mike Lamb
Am I the only one that sees an allusion to a bone through her nose based on how he drew the cheekbones/ears?
that’s not a bone, it’s a graphic dog whistle
re: #260 Targetpractice
My best advice to Collins and Murkowski is to approach Kavanaugh as if Obama or Hillary had nominated him. Would you be so on the fence for a Dem nominee where 80-90% of their total record was being withheld on “confidentiality” grounds? Would you support the nomination of a Dem candidate who feels a president can’t be subpoeaned by a Dem president under investigation for obstruction of justice? If a Dem nominee was facing accusations of having committed perjury multiple times, would you be saying in public that you’re “uncertain”? If that Dem nominee was a figure in some of the most controversial decisions of the Obama administration, would you be actively considering to confirm them?
If the answer to any of the above is “No,” but you’re still going to confirm Bob Kavanaugh anyway, then you’re wasting all our time by suggesting you’re in any way “conflicted.”
while this is a spot on analysis, she would lie and just say “yes”
John Bolton just announced the United States will withdraw ALL support from the ICC. pic.twitter.com/rq63ow65qu
— Natalie Johnson (@nataliejohnsonn) September 10, 2018
Just what any dictator would want.
To applause from this room, Bolton says:
“We will not cooperate with the ICC. Will will provide no assistance to the ICC. We will not join the ICC. We will let the ICC die on its own. After all, for all intents and purposes, the ICC is already dead to us.”— Olivia Gazis (@Olivia_Gazis) September 10, 2018
Bolton announces the U.S. will cease cooperation with the International Criminal Court.
The ICC prosecutes war crimes/crimes against humanity.
It is the only court empowered to prosecute governments when they target their own people.
🚨Pay attention🚨https://t.co/FlSxga2v6l— Leah McElrath (@leahmcelrath) September 10, 2018
well, the ICC probably doesn’t give a rat’s ass what Bolton and the moron says.
Gee, I can’t imagine why Trump and Bolton would choose to have the US leave a court that is considering looking into US war crimes in Afghanistan and Israel war crimes against the Palestinians…
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re: #246 Targetpractice
I’ll save Collins and Murkowski the time, the voters are not going to forgive you for voting to confirm Kavanaugh if you hem and haw a lot about being “uncertain.” You’re not some newbie senators who are “feeling out” the role, you’re veterans with reputations as “moderates” who still vote with the party 9 times outta 10. So the more noise you make, the more obvious it becomes that you’re putting on a show when your minds are already made up. If you’re going to vote to confirm, then drop the act and be honest with the voters. This is the wrong year to play them for saps.
Does anyone know if Collins has expressed interest in continuing her Senate career and running again in 2020?
She is 65 currently, so another term or two is probably in her plans.
If she is not, then pressure from Maine citizens will have no effect. The other gamble she may be considering is she is two years away from another run and may be hoping people forget or cool down if she votes on Kavanaugh.
Murkowski was just elected in ‘16, but she appears to be getting pressured on several issues by her constituents. And as a winner of her seat at less than 50% of the vote she rides a thin line.
This article from HuffPost over the weekend goes to what some of that pressure entails. One biggie is Alaska having big troubles with Climate Change and Kavanaugh is not looking good at all on that issue.
Lisa Murkowski’s Biggest Reason To Oppose Brett Kavanaugh May Not Be Abortion Rights
WASHINGTON ― For all the speculation about Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) and whether she’ll vote for Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, there is an issue beyond abortion rights perhaps weighing more heavily on her as she makes her decision: protections for Alaska Natives.
Advocates for Alaska Natives, who were crucial to Murkowski’s re-election in 2010, tell HuffPost they’ve been flooding her office all week and urging her to oppose Kavanaugh.
They’re raising concerns about his record on climate change, which is already causing real damage in Alaska. As a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, Kavanaugh in 2017 held that the Environmental Protection Agency lacks the authority to regulate hydrofluorocarbons, chemicals linked to global warming. They’re also unhappy with his record on voting rights. Kavanaugh voted in 2012 to uphold a South Carolina voter ID law that disenfranchised more than 80,000 minority registered voters.
The most pressing matter, however, is a case the Supreme Court is reviewing on Nov. 5 that could devastate Alaska Natives’ subsistence fishing rights. The case, Sturgeon v. Frost, raises questions about who has the authority to regulate water in national parks in the state ― the federal government or the state of Alaska. The case arose after Alaska resident John Sturgeon, who was on an annual moose-hunting trip, was riding a hovercraft on a river running through a national park when Park Service officials threatened to give him a citation. Sturgeon is arguing that his ability to use his hovercraft in this scenario is about states’ rights and that federal authority should be eliminated.
Kavanaugh has previously ruled to limit federal power in cases before him. If he gets confirmed and votes with the other four right-leaning justices in favor of Sturgeon’s argument, it will destroy the way of life for tribal communities who rely on subsistence fishing in protected federal waters, some Alaska Native rights groups say.
“This would be a death knell to us in Alaska, absolutely,” said Heather Kendall-Miller, an Alaska Native and an attorney with the Native American Rights Fund. “If this goes down, Alaska will be in a state of chaos when the fishing season begins. There will be lots of civil disobedience. It will be explosive.”
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…more at link
re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth
well, the ICC probably doesn’t give a rat’s ass what Bolton and the moron says.
My reaction as soon as I saw John Bolton trending:
re: #108 Bass Reeves
G’morning people.
I was scrolling through the threads yesterday and saw a comment that made me go back a couple of threads and scroll through more comments. Just thought I’d share.
White. People. Don’t. Get. To. Use. Nigger.
White people also don’t get to tell other people not to worry about a white person’s use of the word nigger.
The fact that *this* community needs to be reminded of that in 2018 is quite literally appalling. There are 3 black people who comment regularly on this site, and I haven’t seen one of them in a couple of months. That bullshit where someone uses it, and everyone ignores, cosigns, or downplays the concerns of the *one person* who had the courage to stick her neck out to mention it…made this a much less safe place for us. The joking around afterward where someone said ‘they rarely use it’, and that seemed to be fine, is actually the point where I stop paying to be here.
This is why we don’t trust you.
I crossed that line. I realized it the same day, thought about posting an ‘It’s not for me to say…’ comment, realized I already HAD said, got finger-tied, and took the easy route of doing nothing. This was totally inadequate. I apologize.
Why diversity is important, proven from the computer world:
Researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Cardiff University in the U.K. found that artificial intelligence (AI) bots can develop prejudices by learning from each other. The team created a game in which AI bots must decide to either donate to a bot within their own group or to a bot in another group, factoring in donation strategies and the bots’ reputations. As the game progressed, the bots became increasingly prejudiced against bots from other groups. The bots devised new strategies by copying each other, mimicking approaches that offered a better short-term reward. Cardiff’s Roger Whitaker says, “Our simulations show that prejudice is a powerful force of nature and through evolution, it can easily become incentivized in virtual populations, to the detriment of wider connectivity with others.” He says protection from prejudicial groups can cause individuals to create further prejudicial groups, resulting in “widespread prejudice” that is difficult to reverse. Lower levels of prejudice occurred when a greater number of subgroups were present in a population.
re: #250 electrotek
Gotta love Australian racism:
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I would wager Australian racists probably are as bigoted about Naomi Osaka as they are Serena.
She is Japanese-Haitian after all.
But that lousy cartoon is taking a shot at someone easy for them to attack right now. There is plenty of time to attack Naomi later.
Finally home from my day trip to Atlantic City.
The drive home was pretty rough. Parts of AC were without power as we headed out, and the main route out of the city was flooded over in a few spots. Thank dog for relatively high-stance SUVs, or we’d still be down there. And it rained all the way from AC to my front door.
The Hard Rock is a real nice joint, and their staff was aces. But I got the vibe from the town that it’s just kind of limping along. But I got that same vibe the last time I was there somewhere around 1997, so I might be wrong on that.
re: #263 electrotek
It’s a Murdoch-owned outlet, of course they’re fine with it.
He has moved up my list of ‘Enemy of the World.’
Currently running #2 just a tick behind Trump.
re: #271 Targetpractice
Gee, I can’t imagine why Trump and Bolton would choose to have the US leave a court that is considering looking into US war crimes in Afghanistan and Israel war crimes against the Palestinians…
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Rule of Law except for you know, us.
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re: #280 Sir John Barron
Rule of Law except for you know, us.
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Kind of like how we act like terrorists are barbaric and then we do shit like waterboard. That always pissed me off.
re: #252 electrotek
Good on her for calling it as it is:
“JK Rowling, I see you need to have some mansplaining mansplained to you. Let me mansplain….”
re: #108 Bass Reeves
G’morning people.
I was scrolling through the threads yesterday and saw a comment that made me go back a couple of threads and scroll through more comments. Just thought I’d share.
White. People. Don’t. Get. To. Use. Nigger.
White people also don’t get to tell other people not to worry about a white person’s use of the word nigger.
The fact that *this* community needs to be reminded of that in 2018 is quite literally appalling. There are 3 black people who comment regularly on this site, and I haven’t seen one of them in a couple of months. That bullshit where someone uses it, and everyone ignores, cosigns, or downplays the concerns of the *one person* who had the courage to stick her neck out to mention it…made this a much less safe place for us. The joking around afterward where someone said ‘they rarely use it’, and that seemed to be fine, is actually the point where I stop paying to be here.
This is why we don’t trust you.
I agree and I apologize.
They snake a lot of things into those, you know. pic.twitter.com/CpatuSUNBt
— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) September 9, 2018
re: #252 electrotek
Wow. What a nasty, racist cartoon. Does that cartoonist do that when White men behave defensively during sporting events? I bet the answer is no.
re: #286 Patricia Kayden
If they’re black, sure he does.
U.S. Voters Believe Anonymous #PresidentTrump Charges 2-1, Poll Finds; Voters Are High on Economy, Split on #BrettKavanaugh https://t.co/f2WjRFpYmT
— Quinnipiac University Poll (@QuinnipiacPoll) September 10, 2018
re: #268 jaunte
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Just what any dictator would want.
Our people were never subject to ICC in the first place, because we said our own courts were sufficient if any of our people committed such crimes. And we did, in fact, convict some of our military of atrocities overseas.
The reason we supported ICC was so that countries who DON’T have reliable courts, who don’t have the means or the will… but maybe this is something North Korea or Russia asked for, or factions in some of the countries we’ll be taking sides in their upcoming civil wars.
re: #289 sagehen
Once more, Republicans doing what Putin would want.
My toon in today’s @theheraldsun on #SerenaWilliams @usopen pic.twitter.com/didwtQg1R5
— Mark Knight (@Knightcartoons) September 10, 2018
This is almost impressively racist
The lips, the nose, the hair, the bosom, the posterior. All indistinguishable from antebellum US media.
Meanwhile her Haitian-Japanese opponent is drawn as… a white girl with blonde hair? https://t.co/s19aeNwjbn— T. Greg Doucette (@greg_doucette) September 10, 2018
re: #288 gocart mozart
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Voters love the economy but Trump’s poll numbers are still dragging along. Seems no amount of cheerleading the economy is gonna save his ass.
A thing once known as the Press Briefing has been added to the schedule at 2pm, WH says.
— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) September 10, 2018
re: #278 makeitstop
Everything dies, baby that’s a fact
But maybe everything that dies, someday comes back…
(and the Boss wrote that back in ‘82…)
re: #290 jaunte
Once more, Republicans doing what Putin would want.
Maybe, maybe not: dumping on the ICC, along with virtually any and every transnational institution or organization, has been a trademark policy of neocon-run Republican policy for decades (and pretty much institutionalized in the GOP since GWB’s election in 2000).
With a creature like John Bolton (the neocon hawk’s neocon hawk) in a position of power in this Administration, this sort of “public execution” of US support for the ICC was only to be expected.
Oh, of course, the Admin will wrap it all up in the flag, and rely on its RW media enablers to spin this as just all part of “Trump’s standing up for American sovereignty” or whatever star-spangled BS they want to tie it to: but the fact is that becoming/being a “rogue nation” is seen as a feature, not a bug by a non-trivial segment of the country’s political power-structure.
Immensely counterproductive, IMO, to the US’ international stature, but as long as
1) Political “points” can be won by jingoistic bluster
2) “Foreigners” can be blamed for any negative results
nothing much is going to be done.
Just want to weigh in, as an art historian, on @FareedZakaria’s comments on Steve Bannon. Zakaria presents his interview with Bannon as an ostensibly neutral act of “listening” to someone else’s perspective. But just look at how @CNN visually framed the whole thing pic.twitter.com/uLRbptBxKl
— Michael Lobel (@mlobelart) September 9, 2018
Great thread on @FareedZakaria’s disturbingly disengenuous presentation of his interview with Steve Bannon. This wasn’t just normalization - they glamorized Bannon. https://t.co/GqEyW4M5nE
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 10, 2018
This “quote” from Obama is completely fabricated. He never said this. I know, can you believe it? The Narcissist in Chief is lying again.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 10, 2018
re: #108 Bass Reeves
I missed that when it happened but I just went back and agree that it was completely out of line.
re: #288 gocart mozart
We’ve reached the crazification factor on strong approval for Trump, according to that poll. And despite 70% saying the economy is good or excellent, only 41% satisfied with the direction of the nation (with only 15% very satisfied). If those kinds of numbers are consistent across polls, there’s got to be a lot of Republican strategists freaking the fuck out right now.
re: #296 Charles Johnson
non. Zakaria presents his interview with Bannon as an ostensibly neutral act of “listening” to someone else’s perspective.
Great thread on @FareedZakaria’s disturbingly disengenuous presentation of his interview with Steve Bannon. This wasn’t just normalization - they glamorized Bannon.
zakaria’s job is not only to listen.
it is to hear.
and then if necessary challenge bullshit
finally - the word ‘perspective’ itself already implies legitimacy right there.
THAT’s why you don’t give an inch from the start.
we do a fair bit of speculating around here. ponder this:
jackbutler5555 • 34 minutes ago
As if there wasn’t enough paranoia in the White House. Now Omarosa has tapes. I wonder if Omarosa has tapes of White House staff saying what they said they didn’t say to Woodward
Fareed Zakaria needs to get his head out of his ass. Bannon would have Zakaria deported back to Mumbai (where he was born) if he got his hands on real power. Seriously, Fareed, you are stupid!
tell us something we already don’t know.
Former Trump aide Omarosa Manigault Newman to @TheView: “I was in a toxic relationship with Donald Trump and I regret that I was so complicit. You know, Hillary Clinton was robbed, and I was … a co-conspirator in that robbery” https://t.co/iyOFUSMPnv pic.twitter.com/ueWbgbi7tR
— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) September 10, 2018
Here’s the video clip of Obama’s magic wand comment. Not only did he not say “President Trump,” he wasn’t referring to the GDP AT ALL. https://t.co/qb2QutPvYy
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 10, 2018
Starts at about 3:00.
re: #301 dangerman
we do a fair bit of speculating around here. ponder this:
jackbutler5555 • 34 minutes ago
As if there wasn’t enough paranoia in the White House. Now Omarosa has tapes. I wonder if Omarosa has tapes of White House staff saying what they said they didn’t say to Woodward
(whispers)Woodward has those tapes anyway
re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth
tell us something we already don’t know.
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something something, admitting it is the first step, something something
re: #288 gocart mozart
Good stuff.
American voters believe 55 - 28 percent anonymous allegations that senior aides to President Donald Trump work behind his back to keep him from making what the aides believe are bad decisions, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today.
Republicans don’t believe these accounts 52 - 27 percent, the only listed party, gender, education, age or racial group which does not believe that aides are working behind the president’s back, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University National Poll finds.
But American voters say 51 - 39 percent that the person who wrote the allegations did the wrong thing by submitting them to the media to be published anonymously.
American voters disapprove 54 - 38 percent of the job President Trump is doing, compared to a 54 - 41 percent disapproval August 14.
The only listed groups approving of the president are Republicans, 84 - 7 percent and white voters with no college degree, 51 - 40 percent.
A total of 70 percent of American voters say the nation’s economy is “excellent” or “good,” matching the all-time high rating for the economy. Another 28 percent say the economy is “not so good” or “poor.”
“American voters believe those tales of intrigue coming from the Trump White House, but they think it’s wrong to tell those tales anonymously,” said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.
“The economy booms, but President Donald Trump’s numbers are a bust. An anemic 38 percent approval rating is compounded by lows on honesty, strength and intelligence.
“But Trump’s base remains loyal.”
American voters give President Trump his lowest grade for honesty since he was elected, saying 60 - 32 percent that he is not honest. Trump gets low grades on most character traits:
57 - 38 percent that he does not have good leadership skills;
55 - 41 percent that he does not care about average Americans;
65 - 30 percent that he is not level-headed;
57 - 39 percent that he is a strong person;
51 - 42 percent that he is intelligent;
60 - 33 percent that he does not share voters’ values;
55 - 41 percent that he is not fit to serve as president;
48 - 42 percent that he is mentally stable.
re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth
tell us something we already don’t know.
The fact that someone associated with this White House can admit that is kind of new.
re: #307 MsJ
“If you add ten points, like I do with the polls, everyone admits I’m smarter than Obama.” - Trump most likely.
re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth
tell us something we already don’t know.
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WHERE ARE YOUR FUCKING TAPES?
Even after posting a video clip.
It’s true. YOu are the liar!!!
— **Eileen wright** (@albanyconserv) September 10, 2018
re: #298 goddamnedfrank
I completely missed that when it happened but I just went back and agree that it was completely out of line.
I am now completely conflicted about my own comment and the reason why I made it.
I just hope BassReeves and others are open to both apologies and maybe a little understanding.
There is that word again: understanding.
It seems to be a double-edged word. You try to understand one point and end up stepping on another.
re: #311 Charles Johnson
Even after posting a video clip.
They’re not going to believe their lying eyes/ears.
ROFL!
Aight man. @chrisdelia wins. pic.twitter.com/drUwRrxkNX
— Larry Legend (@larryislegend) September 3, 2018
re: #312 ObserverArt
When I read the original comment, it once again reminded me of my relatives, which the Palins often do. And that’s exactly how they would be thinking and saying. (I stay as far away from them as possible, btw.) But, upon reading Bass Reeves’ comment, I’ve realized that it should not have been used outside of an explicit quote from someone. It shouldn’t be used to insinuate because there’s a history of the word that really means it should be left alone.
Meanwhile, Hurricane Florence is setting up to pack a helluva punch on the Carolinas. Apparently, there’s potential for the storm to stall when it makes landfall.
re: #305 KGxvi
(whispers)Woodward has those tapes anyway
im just playing around here
i assume woodward has tapes of his interviews where someone tells him what they said or what happened. the quotes in the book are being called fake, lies, untrue anyway
omarosa maginot-line may have tapes of the actual statements live
re: #288 gocart mozart
I wonder why they’re high on the economy, though, as the numbers, while they’re good, are not that incredibly better than what we had when this guy got in the WH.
Two years of hearing from DJT and conservative punditry that the country was a sh*thole, that the *real unemployment rate* was much, MUCH higher than the government reported UER, and that all the gov numbers were fake news, has brought to a sudden end and now all the gov data is reported as fact has made the “change” in the economy seem all the greater.
re: #309 Belafon
“If you add ten points, like I do with the polls, everyone admits I’m smarter than Obama.” - Trump most likely.
polls make you look ten points lighter
Your the liar. Obama definitely said it. Your the fake news. Libtards still reeling from crooked Hillary’s loss.
— Timothy Owens (@tlo20135) September 10, 2018
re: #320 Barefoot Grin
Here comes Her Malevolence, SHS.
How long did it take to reprogram the Stepford Secretary?
Your the liar. Obama definitely said it. Your the fake news. Libtards still reeling from crooked Hillary’s loss.
— Timothy Owens (@tlo20135) September 10, 2018
*You’re https://t.co/t8qGqFoBUP
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 10, 2018
re: #313 Belafon
They’re not going to believe their lying eyes/ears.
they’ll say he didnt say it there, it was somewhere else
then you’ll say find a clip
and they’ll say do it yourself, i dont have time (or whatever)
and of course you cant prove that something has never existed
dont accept the premise. arguing and engaging make it a ‘legitimate difference of opinion. so dont.
“that statement is a lie. come back with video or don’t bother”
re: #304 Charles Johnson
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Charles, what was the Trump tweet quote?
re: #322 Belafon
How long did it take to reprogram the Stepford Secretary?
Press briefings are vanishingly rare these days. I think the recharge/reboot is taking longer and longer.
Obama said the words “magic wand” therefore anything attached to those words.
re: #326 Barefoot Grin
Press briefings are vanishingly rare these days. I think the recharge/reboot is taking longer and longer.
It’s an old battery, doesn’t hold the charge like it used to. My first iphone was like that after a while, would hold enough of a charge to stay on but if I used it for more than 3 minutes it would die.
LISTEN: MSNBC just played the rest of Omarosa’s secret recording of an Oct ‘17 White House meeting. On it, Trump and his staff have a laugh discussing an ambush in Niger that left 4 US soldiers dead. pic.twitter.com/W1oe5YGhon
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 10, 2018
“I was elected. The judge was appointed.” Doug Ford when I ask him if he is worried he’ll be called a dictator by imposing notwithstanding clause and squashing judge’s ruling #onpoli pic.twitter.com/x5OA22LdYV
— Cynthia Mulligan (@CityCynthia) September 10, 2018
Doug Ford essentially says his government is not bound by the rule of law: “What’s extraordinary is a democratic government trying to be shut down by the courts.”
— Jonathan Goldsbie (@goldsbie) September 10, 2018
In other words: Those judges — who are they to judge?
— Jonathan Goldsbie (@goldsbie) September 10, 2018
see Jonathan’s TL for more background info
re: #323 Charles Johnson
I wonder if the conservative’s break with reality was precipitated by their grade school teachers trying to teach them about homonyms.
re: #327 jaunte
Obama said the words “magic wand” therefore anything attached to those words.
Obama should also stay silent while Orange guy with small hands lies about him and criticizes him every day.
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re: #331 Single-handed sailor
I’m starting to think it may be a reflexive troll on par with ‘Democrat Party.’
re: #329 gocart mozart
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I’m glad she’s upset now but it would have meant something had she done it then rather than being a bully for Trump.
*You’re https://t.co/1h1VMCWzuI
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 10, 2018
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 10, 2018
This is authoritarian garbage from Sarah Sanders. No, the FBI shouldn’t be “looking into” who wrote the op-ed, unless we now live in a police state.
— Matthew Miller (@matthewamiller) September 10, 2018
re: #337 jaunte
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Exactly. If they want to look into it internally fine but it’s not the FBI’s business.
No wonder voters are confused. Two headlines about the same Trump tweet. One is the real story, and the other is journalistic malpractice. @WCBM680, try to do better. Here’s the real story: https://t.co/9dp6HnzCvN pic.twitter.com/3zcXz9fzHY
— Steve Silberman (@stevesilberman) September 10, 2018
A perfect portrait of a Trump voter. pic.twitter.com/a5fYlOiyxB
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 10, 2018
Congratulations on being utter racist trash I guess
— Lodestar Frank (@goddamnedfrank) September 10, 2018
When is the Kavanagh vote supposed to be?
I want her to get elected just so she can get impeached for this
— Sam Craft (@dwbh) September 10, 2018
re: #340 Charles Johnson
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The truth is his tweets make him look unhinged but yeah it’s all about trolling the libs. Btw he’s supposed to be President not a Twitter troll. If you want some to troll liberals, keep them out of important jobs.
re: #344 HappyWarrior
The truth is his tweets make him look unhinged but yeah it’s all about trolling the libs. Btw he’s supposed to be President not a Twitter troll. If you want some to troll liberals, keep them out of important jobs.
Unfortunately, he’s currently both.
John Oliver’s main story last night made me hate Rick Scott even more. No wonder the GOP wins the state: the widespread disenfranchisement of citizens who have served their time is a disgrace. 20% of African Americans are ineligible to vote — and the only way they can regain their privilege is by an all white board led by Scott (a criminal himself) who basically ignores or denies most such requests.
There is a referendum on the ballot to restore these rights — but given who can vote in the state, it likely will not pass.
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Mandatory evacuation. Me, BeachDem. My fam. 2 cats. Noon tomorrow. Oh boy.
re: #349 Stanley Sea
Mandatory evacuation. Me, BeachDem. My fam. 2 cats. Noon tomorrow. Oh boy.
Oh, stay safe, you and the kittehs.
OK, went to services this morning. Kept my mouth shut when I saw someone wearing these…
I thought there was no way those could be for sale.
I was wrong.
re: #351 Joe Bacon 🌹
OK, went to services this morning. Kept my mouth shut when I saw someone wearing these…
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I thought there was no way those could be for sale.
I was wrong.
Oh boy, so sorry
re: #351 Joe Bacon 🌹
OK, went to services this morning. Kept my mouth shut when I saw someone wearing these…
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I thought there was no way those could be for sale.
I was wrong.
You can go to the Nike website and custom make shoes.
You should tell them they should take off the shoes before they light them on fire.
People like the police. pic.twitter.com/tMFousyMfu
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) September 10, 2018
I think this is the problem in a nutshell. People like the police, and that turns into unwavering support, which then becomes unwillingness to think any ill of police, so any story where police shoot some unarmed person, or about racial discrimination in policing becomes an attack on police in general. People can’t grasp the idea that any given officer may respond at least in part out of some racist feeling, without that officer being A Bad Person.
So, then there’s a video of a cop shooting an unarmed person, and that causes discomfort - how can a Good Cop be a Bad Person? So, they resolve the discomfort by either making the shooting victim into the Bad Guy (“Why didn’t he comply?”) or they make the cop into a Bad Person (“He’s a Bad Apple! Cops aren’t racist!”).
And we now worship cops like heroes, talk about how dangerous the job is, how their families wonder whether ‘This is the day he doesn’t come home’, and generally exaggerate the risk. Roofers, lumberjacks, commercial fishermen, construction workers in general - these jobs are objectively more dangerous than policing, which doesn’t even crack the top 10 most dangerous jobs. But we don’t talk about THEIR families wondering if ‘This is the day…’
And if I write this on FB, people will think I’m an anti-cop asshole.
re: #351 Joe Bacon 🌹
OK, went to services this morning. Kept my mouth shut when I saw someone wearing these…
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I thought there was no way those could be for sale.
I was wrong.
I would mock someone who wore those for Obama or Clinton. Those are ugly.
re: #346 Blind Frog Belly White
De gustibus non est disputandum, but…Ewwww…
there is no fruit in bagels
the rest is fine
re: #356 dangerman
there is no fruit in bagels
the rest is fine
Not big on the whole tree bark aspect either, in this context. Cinnamon-raisin bread can be fucking fantastic, but with smoked salmon and capers? Yeesh.
re: #354 Blind Frog Belly White
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I think this is the problem in a nutshell. People like the police, and that turns into unwavering support, which then becomes unwillingness to think any ill of police, so any story where police shoot some unarmed person, or about racial discrimination in policing becomes an attack on police in general. People can’t grasp the idea that any given officer may respond at least in part out of some racist feeling, without that officer being A Bad Person.
So, then there’s a video of a cop shooting an unarmed person, and that causes discomfort - how can a Good Cop be a Bad Person? So, they resolve the discomfort by either making the shooting victim into the Bad Guy (“Why didn’t he comply?”) or they make the cop into a Bad Person (“He’s a Bad Apple! Cops aren’t racist!”).
And we now worship cops like heroes, talk about how dangerous the job is, how their families wonder whether ‘This is the day he doesn’t come home’, and generally exaggerate the risk. Roofers, lumberjacks, commercial fishermen, construction workers in general - these jobs are objectively more dangerous than policing, which doesn’t even crack the top 10 most dangerous jobs. But we don’t talk about THEIR families wondering if ‘This is the day…’
And if I write this on FB, people will think I’m an anti-cop asshole.
You hit the ball out of the park as far as I’m concerned. I think a lot of this goes back to 9/11 where cops, firefighters, & emts were lauded for their role and I might add rightfully but we need the same skepticism or rather want for accountability directed at cops that is directed elsewhere at the moment when we should hold cops up to a standard.
re: #356 dangerman
there is no fruit in bagels
the rest is fine
Cinnamon Raisin bagels are great but with salmon? Come on now.
re: #354 Blind Frog Belly White
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I think this is the problem in a nutshell. People like the police, and that turns into unwavering support, which then becomes unwillingness to think any ill of police, so any story where police shoot some unarmed person, or about racial discrimination in policing becomes an attack on police in general. People can’t grasp the idea that any given officer may respond at least in part out of some racist feeling, without that officer being A Bad Person.
So, then there’s a video of a cop shooting an unarmed person, and that causes discomfort - how can a Good Cop be a Bad Person? So, they resolve the discomfort by either making the shooting victim into the Bad Guy (“Why didn’t he comply?”) or they make the cop into a Bad Person (“He’s a Bad Apple! Cops aren’t racist!”).
And we now worship cops like heroes, talk about how dangerous the job is, how their families wonder whether ‘This is the day he doesn’t come home’, and generally exaggerate the risk. Roofers, lumberjacks, commercial fishermen, construction workers in general - these jobs are objectively more dangerous than policing, which doesn’t even crack the top 10 most dangerous jobs. But we don’t talk about THEIR families wondering if ‘This is the day…’
And if I write this on FB, people will think I’m an anti-cop asshole.
How in the hell could anybody have any “confidence” in the Police Department? Cops are the enemy. The enemy of everyone. The enemy of every human value, every value we’re supposed to hold as a nation. I don’t care who calls me an anti-cop asshole—I glory in the title.
People love the cops until they’re the ones hassled.
re: #354 Blind Frog Belly White
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I think this is the problem in a nutshell. People like the police, and that turns into unwavering support, which then becomes unwillingness to think any ill of police, so any story where police shoot some unarmed person, or about racial discrimination in policing becomes an attack on police in general. People can’t grasp the idea that any given officer may respond at least in part out of some racist feeling, without that officer being A Bad Person.
So, then there’s a video of a cop shooting an unarmed person, and that causes discomfort - how can a Good Cop be a Bad Person? So, they resolve the discomfort by either making the shooting victim into the Bad Guy (“Why didn’t he comply?”) or they make the cop into a Bad Person (“He’s a Bad Apple! Cops aren’t racist!”).
And we now worship cops like heroes, talk about how dangerous the job is, how their families wonder whether ‘This is the day he doesn’t come home’, and generally exaggerate the risk. Roofers, lumberjacks, commercial fishermen, construction workers in general - these jobs are objectively more dangerous than policing, which doesn’t even crack the top 10 most dangerous jobs. But we don’t talk about THEIR families wondering if ‘This is the day…’
And if I write this on FB, people will think I’m an anti-cop asshole.
everything is turning into black and white / either/or thinking
or more accurately - non-thinking
when the world is 99% grey
re: #359 HappyWarrior
Cinnamon Raisin bagels are great but with salmon? Come on now.
cin raisin bagels are not in pineapple pizza territory
for us, thought they are not a thing
nor strawberry, blueberry, lemon, and on and on
i make a kick-ass apple cin rumraisin bread that mrs dm adores.
no need to outsource
re: #362 dangerman
everything is turning into black and white / either/or thinking
or more accurately - non-thinking
when the world is 99% grey
It reduces all the color and shading in the real world into a simple line drawing.
re: #360 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
How in the hell could anybody have any “confidence” in the Police Department? Cops are the enemy. The enemy of everyone. The enemy of every human value, every value we’re supposed to hold as a nation. I don’t care who calls me an anti-cop asshole—I glory in the title.
well to be fair there is no “the police department”
any more than there is ‘the left’ or whatever
its an overarching term for lots of big, small, city, country, bureaucratic, elected, appointed…just so many variations
some are good some are not so good. it could be a lot like congress. congress sux. my guy’s great
re: #364 Blind Frog Belly White
It reduces all the color and shading in the real world into a simple line drawing.
‘you’re either with us or against us’
it’s what’s pushing all this tribal-like thinking
re: #366 dangerman
‘you’re either with us or against us’
it’s what’s pushing all this tribal-like thinking
“When you’re a Jet, you’re a Jet all the way,
“From your first cigarette to your last dying day!”
(Sorry. It just popped into my head, so I figured I’d pop it into everyone else’s)
re: #191 Sir John Barron
The unemployment rate in all those quarters was fake.
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It took me a while to find it, but I finally found the post where the Rude Pundit nailed how things would ‘change’ once Trump got into office. From July 22, 2016.
And Trump went further than any of the fearmongers before him in portraying the United States as a nightmare, a lawless landscape of rampant crime (which is really down), cops being gunned down (fewer than ever), and undocumented immigrants murdering the fuck out of us (very rarely). The world itself is falling to pieces (despite it being one of the most peaceful periods in the planet’s history). Every one of Trump’s assertions is factually wrong. That’s not just an opinion. Facts, actual numbers, something that Trump is very fond of mentioning, bear that out. But, no, the whole place is turning to shit, according to Trump. The only solution Trump offered is Trump. Trump will make it all better. All you gotta do is vote him in. Then America will be great again. He’ll do it all by himself.
Or maybe, just maybe, this is the con: You make everyone believe that the world is turning to shit and then when you’re elected, you just change the spin. “Oh, hey, look, crime is way down,” you say, not even hinting that it was down before you were elected. “Oh, hey, look, my strategy on ISIS worked,” you say, not mentioning that it was headed that way anyways. “Oh, hey, look, I’ve put into place a nearly two-year process for incoming refugees,” you announce, leaving out that that’s how it’s been for a long time. See how easy it is to make America great again? You just start saying it is and then, racist blinders off, everyone looks around and says, “Well, shit, things really are pretty good.” And for shit that wasn’t getting done because Republicans wouldn’t let it get done, like child care and infrastructure spending, hell, all of a sudden, the GOP will be the biggest fan of funding bridges and roads. And who gets all the credit? Not the n*****r president who obviously fucked it all up because he’s such a n****r. All accolades go to Trump.
re: #365 dangerman
well to be fair there is no “the police department”
any more than there is ‘the left’ or whateverits an overarching term for lots of big, small, city, country, bureaucratic, elected, appointed…just so many variations
some are good some are not so good. it could be a lot like congress. congress sux. my guy’s great
The Cop Mentality is the psychological type that fancies themselves like the dominant male in a baboon troop—every individual they encounter has to perform some ritual of abasement before them. And if they won’t, they’ve got their government-supplied penis-substitute—that their victim paid for—to force them to. This mental type must be ruthlessly weeded out of society. Completely.
re: #351 Joe Bacon 🌹
OK, went to services this morning. Kept my mouth shut when I saw someone wearing these…
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I thought there was no way those could be for sale.
I was wrong.
Looks like more of a propaganda organization than a store.
Oddly, not everything on the page is free.
re: #372 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Looks like more of a propaganda organization than a store.
Oddly, not everything on the page is free.
Maybe it’s not declaring that the Trump Gear is Free, but rather an exhortation to liberate it?
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