An Exceptional John Oliver Deep Dive Into the Power of Public Shaming [VIDEO]
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John Oliver talks about the power of public shaming, good and bad.
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Excellent segment by John Oliver! The long interview at the end with Monica Lewinsky was really powerful.
re: #2 Ferdinand
Excellent segment by John Oliver! The long interview at the end with Monica Lewinsky was really powerful.
Particularly when she raised the issue about changing her name to be able to find a job and career. First, it would have been building a relationship with a company on a lie/obfuscation. Second, why should she have to change her name if Bill doesn’t.
Why would anyone do this to a dog? https://t.co/aBdcEusaR8
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 18, 2019
re: #3 lawhawk
Particularly when she raised the issue about changing her name to be able to find a job and career. First, it would have been building a relationship with a company on a lie/obfuscation. Second, why should she have to change her name if Bill doesn’t.
There has always been this inequality in the treatment of relationships between men and women: “boys will be boys” vs a woman is a slut. Men don’t damage their reputation by being a “Don Juan”; it’s treated with amusement by our society. But a woman? A female celebrity may be able to get away with occasional affairs but anything more, and she’s automatically a nymphomaniac or a tramp.
In the latest Brexit news - in a fairly fast-moving newsday regarding Brexit:
Sense of absolute shock among ministers - no idea what to do. “There’s no plan yet, everyone is just trying to come to terms with it,” one says.
— Jessica Elgot (@jessicaelgot) March 18, 2019
re: #3 lawhawk
Also, Oliver takes Jay Leno to the woodchipper for his repeated use of going after Lewinsky personally all while headlining the Tonight Show and then claiming that more civility is needed today among the current crop of late night hosts.
Yeah, Oliver calls out Leno as a hypocrite who refuses to apologize to Lewinsky for his actions over the years.
And Here. We. Go.
We are now on the urgent question about Brexit.
Justine Greening, the Tory pro-European, asks for a statement about the article 50 extension procedure.
Kwasi Kwarteng, the Brexit minister, says the government will seek to negotiate an article 50 extension.
He says, although article 50 does not say how a country should seek an article 50 extension, Theresa May will write to Donald Tusk, the European council president, with a request.
It is expected the European council will discuss this at the summit later this week.
If it agrees an extension, a statutory instrument will be laid next week. It will have to be passed by MPs and by peers, he says.
re: #6 Dr Lizardo
In the latest Brexit news - in a fairly fast-moving newsday regarding Brexit:
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Couldn’t they revise their parliamentary procedures? What does it take to adopt such a change?
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re: #6 Dr Lizardo
In the latest Brexit news - in a fairly fast-moving newsday regarding Brexit:
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What’s that definition of insanity again?
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re: #4 Charles Johnson
Seriously, if someone tells you, over and over and over, that they don’t like dogs, believe them. Getting them one won’t be good for the dog, and won’t improve them.
re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Ah, if only we’d been warned. But weren’t we? Now that we know, there’s no excuse for staying complacent. Carry the torch by wearing this one out and loudly. With blessings from Uncle George. Save 20% OFF your entire order of Takei Tees now until 3/20! https://t.co/ZnthLixlxA pic.twitter.com/77heYdn1u5
— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) March 18, 2019
So when will Scotland vote again on SCExit? And would the EU automatically accept them as a member?
re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg
What’s that definition of insanity again?
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Or, playing chicken with a semi one too many times.
re: #8 Dr Lizardo
If it agrees an extension, a statutory instrument will be laid next week. It will have to be passed by MPs and by peers, he says.
Oh, yeah. That’ll fucking work.
Brexit has been revealed to one and all to be an omnishambles of Olympian proportions.
It is beyond farcical at this point.
re: #17 MsJ
Hey you! How’s Daisy doing?
Just brought her home from the animal hospital.
Keeping her as comfortable as possible, she’s napping right now.
re: #19 Dr Lizardo
Brexit has been revealed to one and all to be an omnishambles of Olympian proportions.
It is beyond farcical at this point.
May: hold my beer
Corbin: hold my beer
Putin: challenge, accepted? Excellent….
Here’s what Offutt AFB looks like currently pic.twitter.com/mdBzZNCnWY
— Angry Staffer (@AngrierWHStaff) March 18, 2019
I wish I could watch these videos. But YouTube recognizes I’m Canadian and John Oliver’s videos can only be watched in the US. :(
re: #19 Dr Lizardo
Brexit has been revealed to one and all to be an omnishambles of Olympian proportions.
It is beyond farcical at this point.
Deal? Or No Deal?
NEITHER!
I’ve literally been wondering how long it would take Republicans to come up with that exact nickname.
They’re nothing if not predictable. And sophomoric. https://t.co/lkVlrHw84l— Matthew Chapman (@fawfulfan) March 18, 2019
re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth
“You’ll be okay. Just make sure you’re off the ground before you get to the water.”
re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth
That’s quite a boat ramp - they could probably launch the RMS Queen Mary 2 off that baby.
re: #21 lawhawk
May: hold my beer
Corbin: hold my beerPutin: challenge, accepted? Excellent….
Let’s place the blame where it really belongs: David Cameron. He got Britain into the mess and he resigned instead of trying to clean up afterwards. Theresa was put into a no-win situation.
re: #23 Romantic Heretic
I wish I could watch these videos. But YouTube recognizes I’m Canadian and John Oliver’s videos can only be watched in the US. :(
Sounds like you need to use a VPN.
re: #28 Hecuba’s daughter
Let’s place the blame where it really belongs: David Cameron. He got Britain into the mess and he resigned instead of trying to clean up afterwards. Theresa was put into a no-win situation.
May is doing her best to make it a hard-lose situation, though.
re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth
Offutt Air Base. Home of Strategic Air Command. Their new HQ is on the high ground, but runways, taxiways, and other facilities are currently flooded out. Damage will probably be in the millions of dollars. One building that was flooded included a bunch of very expensive flight sims. The 55th Wing HQ is underwater. A bunch of the planes were flown out before the flooding hit the runway.
re: #29 Belafon
Sounds like you need to use a VPN.
My VPN sucks. It works sometimes and them out screws up everything else (like my banking apps).
Trump: ‘Any Shooting Actually Inspired By Me Would Have Left Thousands Dead’ https://t.co/gxCWl1x1Aq pic.twitter.com/rN902qyFbY
— The Onion (@TheOnion) March 18, 2019
re: #25 jaunte
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Beta male. You suggested that to a man who cries about SNL making fun of him. Meanwhile Beto laughed when Triumph the Insult Dog mocked him. Your network doesn’t know what a man is.
re: #6 Dr Lizardo
In the latest Brexit news - in a fairly fast-moving newsday regarding Brexit:
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Sense of absolute shock among ministers - no idea what to do. “There’s no plan yet, everyone is just trying to come to terms with it,” one says
Because *no one* saw this coming?
Really?
Monica Lewinsky is absolutely charming. She seems like a good person.
re: #36 makeitstop
Monica Lewinsky is absolutely charming. She seems like a good person.
I got a positive impression of her too. Oliver did a great job interviewing her too. She’s got a great sense of humor. Whole segment I think was very insightful but humorous too.
re: #34 HappyWarrior
I still say any candidate accused of being a beta male should challenge Trump to a 100 foot sprint.
re: #38 jaunte
I still say any candidate accused of being a beta male should challenge Trump to a 100 foot sprint.
Or a round of golf, no golf carts allowed.
re: #38 jaunte
I still say any candidate accused of being a beta male should challenge Trump to a 100 foot sprint.
“Walk a mile in my shoes. Or, hell, just walk a mile. See if you can.”
tfw you’re writing some code you know smells bad, but you can’t find any other way to do this thing you’re doing
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 18, 2019
So if I’m understanding what’s going on correctly, the US President gratuitously attacked a dead Senator to psychologically dominate and humiliate the man’s best friend, also a Senator, while the rest of Congress looked on—a demonstration of his power following the veto. https://t.co/nJWjrlS5GZ
— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) March 18, 2019
re: #38 jaunte
I still say any candidate accused of being a beta male should challenge Trump to a 100 foot sprint.
I am just amused by the idea that Trump is this bad ass. It brings to mind when Ann Coulter called HW Bush a wimp. I never would have voted for him but a wimp he wasn’t. Trump is your textbook coward.
re: #43 HappyWarrior
I am just amused by the idea that Trump is this bad ass. It brings to mind when Ann Coulter called HW Bush a wimp. I never would have voted for him but a wimp he wasn’t. Trump is your textbook coward.
My mom died today. Joining my dad who passed away 40 days ago. She was a pretty remarkable lady. An immigrant from Cuba, she lived with the Oblate Sisters of Providence in Baltimore during college. Here (on the left) she is in Cuba in the 1930s. pic.twitter.com/oZNzEqa7ig
— Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) March 18, 2019
Oh great a new thread. And there I was toiling away in the old one.
Another “not my day!”
Sigh. I give up.
Soledad O’Brien just announced that her mom passed away, just about a month after her dad did.
My mom died today. Joining my dad who passed away 40 days ago. She was a pretty remarkable lady. An immigrant from Cuba, she lived with the Oblate Sisters of Providence in Baltimore during college. Here (on the left) she is in Cuba in the 1930s. pic.twitter.com/oZNzEqa7ig
— Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) March 18, 2019
Losing a parent is rough, losing both weeks apart? That’s just inconsolable.
re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth
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It’s like the scene in Season 3 of “Sherlock”, where Charles Augustus Magnussen makes a show of pissing in Sherlock’s fireplace, because he’s powerful enough to do what he wants.
Update: Rep. Steve King appears to have deleted his taunt about a civil war. It’s no longer on his Facebook page. https://t.co/Y3xPnSPoKv
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) March 18, 2019
re: #49 ObserverArt
Oh great a new thread. And there I was toiling away in the old one.
Another “not my day!”
Sigh. I give up.
Proves you’re human. Er, a lizard
re: #43 HappyWarrior
I am just amused by the idea that Trump is this bad ass. It brings to mind when Ann Coulter called HW Bush a wimp. I never would have voted for him but a wimp he wasn’t. Trump is your textbook coward.
Wait, you mean all those masturbatory fantasies of Trump The Conqueror that Ben Garrison draws aren’t real?
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She put this ad in our local paper when I was a kid—to protest discriminatory housing in our town. We were the only black family in our neighborhood, so it didn’t win her a lot of friends: pic.twitter.com/RPGnAx7659
— Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) March 18, 2019
Still an unpopular message; still needs saying.
re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth
He’s probably trying to find a version that has Iowa red.
re: #55 jaunte
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Still an unpopular message; still needs saying.
I can see where Soledad gets her sense of justice from.
re: #54 Blind Frog Belly White
Wait, you mean all those masturbatory fantasies of Trump The Conqueror that Ben Garrison draws aren’t real?
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Haha the very same.
re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Pretty sure we already did this and we know how it turned out…
Bulgarian police used pepper spray against protesters in front of parliament, but didn’t take the wind direction into account pic.twitter.com/4LVgqrnWV1 #Bulgaria #protests
— Jerry Hicks (@JerryHicksUnite) March 17, 2019
.@JohnCornyn - I’m the one who called you last week to ask you to vote for my bill against giving away hundreds of miles of Texas land to the federal government in a Washington power grab. You never called me back. I don’t feel bad though; I hear it happens to lots of Texans. https://t.co/1WSfND2R9a
— Joaquin Castro (@JoaquinCastrotx) March 18, 2019
re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth
“You never have to worry about that with bullets. Checkmate, libtards.”
Today, HB 481—effectively banning abortion in GA—passed out of committee on a party & gender line vote. Every male senator on #GaSciTechCmte voted for the bill.
Make no mistake: #HB481 is not a “heartbeat” bill—it is a forced pregnancy bill, and it must be stopped. #TrustWomen https://t.co/5pKFA9xLga— Stacey Abrams (@staceyabrams) March 18, 2019
re: #62 jaunte
Rep Castro was also the lead sponsor of the resolution to overturn Trump’s emergency declaration
ICYMI: We’re not saying Tucker Carlson is a white supremacist; he’s the one saying it. pic.twitter.com/7skBKckXj5
— Full Frontal (@FullFrontalSamB) March 18, 2019
re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I take Tucker at his word. He is what he is on FNC. An unrepentant bigot who thinks he’s special for having a white penis.
“Under the DOL’s new proposal, too many people will continue to be in the same unfair situation: given a scintilla of managerial duties, an elevated title, paid on a salary basis, & then made to work many overtime hours essentially for free” @TerriGerstein https://t.co/OLQLxZ4M3D
— NELP (@NelpNews) March 18, 2019
A little more corporate fascism creeping in every day.
Analysis: Church service interrupts Trump’s weekend of attacks https://t.co/Es7p2D24nj pic.twitter.com/ZUcWKGU2HA
— SFGate (@SFGate) March 18, 2019
The Trump administration is proposing new limits on student borrowing as part of a broader plan to curb the cost of college. The plan says Congress should put a cap on federal student loans to prevent borrowers from taking on unmanageable debt. https://t.co/DrC2qbi0H1
— The Associated Press (@AP) March 18, 2019
jeebus…don’t even think about discussing ways to make higher education affordable, just go ahead and put physical financial limits on those who can’t afford it.
re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth
There are already caps on the amount of loans you can take out in a given year and for undergrad/grad school.
What they’re talking about is further restricting access to education loans, which means those who are least able to afford education will find themselves without the means to pay for it.
I get that there’s a school of thought that the easy availability of student loans enables schools to boost education expenses faster than the rate of inflation, but the reality is that those loans are necessary because high education has long been unaffordable without loans that can cover the costs (room, board, expenses, books, etc.)
Dutch police arrest wanted man following a shooting in the city of Utrecht which left three people dead https://t.co/8OedeSbMlE
— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) March 18, 2019
Gargamel complains sales of his Smurf cookbook are weak because he ate all the Smurfs. https://t.co/3XqoOymnD7
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) March 18, 2019
re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Speaking of, anybody hear from our Nebraska MIA lizard lately?
re: #76 sagehen
Speaking of, anybody hear from our Nebraska MIA lizard lately?
somebody said last night that he moved over to wonkette
re: #76 sagehen
Speaking of, anybody hear from our Nebraska MIA lizard lately?
I’ve been missing Stanley Sea lately. Where’d she go?
re: #78 makeitstop
I’ve been missing Stanley Sea lately. Where’d she go?
Been wondering too. I think her and BeachDem talk irl.
France’s EU minister names her cat ‘Brexit’ because ‘he meows loudly to be let out but won’t go through the door.’ https://t.co/DHQFYisgta
— Robert Lloyd (@LATimesTVLloyd) March 18, 2019
re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth
somebody said last night that he moved over to wonkette
What is his name IRL so I can check him out on wonkette?
re: #28 Hecuba’s daughter
Let’s place the blame where it really belongs: David Cameron. He got Britain into the mess and he resigned instead of trying to clean up afterwards. Theresa was put into a no-win situation.
Specifically so she could take the blame.
Not that she doesn’t deserve some blame.
re: #82 Hecuba’s daughter
What is his name IRL so I can check him out on wonkette?
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re: #34 HappyWarrior
Beta male. You suggested that to a man who cries about SNL making fun of him. Meanwhile Beto laughed when Triumph the Insult Dog mocked him. Your network doesn’t know what a man is.
That whole alpha make drives the ugly narrative as much as white supremacy does. Real men kill people. Real men beat their women.
It’s as toxic as everything else.
re: #84 MsJ
Given her choices…like brinksmanship where she re-offers the same deemed-unacceptable Brexit deal, her snap election to consolidate power, her refusal to acknowledge the bad faith that preceded the vote, et cetera…Theresa May freely accepted the bad the hand that she is playing.
She might not be a liar like Farage or Johnson, or spineless tit like Cameron, but she is first and foremost a party creature toeing a party line.
Even if one believes that Theresa was handed a no-win scenario, she has had ample opportunity to bail out of this shitshow. She could have taken the hint when Boris jumped ship that Brexit was a boondoggle and run from it.
re: #32 MsJ
My VPN sucks. It works sometimes and them out screws up everything else (like my banking apps).
Concerning VPNs, you can’t expect your bank(s) to be totally ok with repeated attempted logins FAR from where they know you live, unless they don’t care at all about security. They *might* be ok with it provided it happens only rarely.
I have multiple pcs, and several browers on each, so for my banking needs, letting cookies live beyond a single browser session could potentially cause me some problems. (Hey, you are using a different browser/pc/os, not what we usually see when you login, so would you please answer this security Q?) So I prefer that cookies expire in ALL browsers when the browser is closed (ie, “session-only” cookies setting), by default. Also, I prefer using (almost aways) just one browser on one PC for banking.
However, I have found it necessary to use three or so different profiles within a single browser because it is near-impossible to have a single secure browser configuration that works everywhere without issues. For example, one bank insists that cross-site scripting be allowed, as it hands off to onlinebank[dot]com (or whatever) during login. But that’s a scripting behaviour that is so broadly abused by malware that it should be blocked by default. With NoScript add-on, it IS blocked by default, except perhaps for some whitelisted sites. So I can allow that relaxed setting, but only in that one profile, which is used only for that one banking site. Everywhere else, cross-site scripting is generally forbidden.
re: #86 MsJ
That whole alpha make drives the ugly narrative as much as white supremacy does. Real men kill people. Real men beat their women.
It’s as toxic as everything else.
It’s incredibly stupid.
re: #88 Targetpractice
Even if one believes that Theresa was handed a no-win scenario, she has had ample opportunity to bail out of this shitshow. She could have taken the hint when Boris jumped ship that Brexit was a boondoggle and run from it.
Who would have been better among Tory party members? I am unfamiliar with the Tory players. Certainly no one in either Labour or Tory has distinguished themselves in this debacle, but is there someone who could have succeeded if placed in command of the party after the unfortunate referendum?
re: #87 The Ghost of Quesos Past
Given her choices…like brinksmanship where she re-offers the same deemed-unacceptable Brexit deal, her snap election to consolidate power, her refusal to acknowledge the bad faith that preceded the vote, et cetera…Theresa May freely accepted the bad the hand that she is playing.
She might not be a liar like Farage or Johnson, or spineless tit like Cameron, but she is first and foremost a party creature toeing a party line.
May is also trying to prevent a potentially (electorally) fatal split from emerging in the Tories.
Imagine if Article 50 gets revoked: the Tory voters, who back Brexit by a large majority, would end up walking away to UKIP or whatever new Brexit-style party Nigel Farage can whip up.
This would instantly put the Tories in a deadly disadvantage come election time; under their “first-past-the-post” system, Labour (if they stayed united) could end up winning outright majorities for the foreseeable future and the Tories would end up condemned to wander the wilderness for a generation - because it would probably take that long for the rift to heal.
re: #96 HappyWarrior
Yeah I’m not surprised. It’s always struck me as a very juvenile way of viewing masculinity.
I think it’s very insulting to men.
re: #97 BlueGrl21
I think it’s very insulting to men.
It is. It’s far more sexist towards men than anything I’ve seen from feminists.
For Lizards who live in the Upper Midwest, looks like Shopko has bit the dust.
Shopko announced Monday it will be closing all of its remaining stores.
Shopko officials said despite its best efforts, it was unable to find a buyer, according to WFRV.
The company will be winding down its retail operations starting this week.
re: #78 makeitstop
I’ve been missing Stanley Sea lately. Where’d she go?
She like many have just stop showing up. Kragar is no longer around either. As are many others.
It is sort of disappointing because you get interested in what everyone is doing, etc. and then they don’t come around any longer.
As far as ‘mouse, he seems to have quit because he got some kickback over a comment about the Kentucky kids and that not everyone joined him in his stance.
He said he could no longer post here because we were more or less making excuses for the kids.
He seems to have lumped everyone together as one against him, which is far from the truth.
Where is it written that everyone needs to be on the same page on a political debate forum?
re: #97 BlueGrl21
Sexist as hell.
It’s an attempt to scientifically (eye roll) call a man a pussy. Because the worst thing anyone could ever be is feminine.
re: #93 Hecuba’s daughter
Who would have been better among Tory party members? I am unfamiliar with the Tory players. Certainly no one in either Labour or Tory has distinguished themselves in this debacle, but is there someone who could have succeeded if placed in command of the party after the unfortunate referendum?
The only thing unfortunate about the referendum was that everybody underestimated the possibility it would succeed. Hell, even Farange insisted upon it being non-binding because he didn’t think would succeed and he didn’t want to lose the talking point. Cameron totally expected it would fail, leaving the issue much like “Replace & Replace” for our own GOP: A campaign issue that they use to whip up the far-right, but they know will never come to fruition because it’s massively unpopular.
It’s success was the worst possible scenario for the Tories because they had no plan for the damned thing actually happening. They figured Brexit would barely make it into the double digits, so they had no roadmap or preliminary plan for the negotiations that invoking Article 50 would required. Then they compounded their bad luck by having a leadership crisis, with Cameron bailing and catching Johnson and Farange with the shrapnel on the way out. May wasn’t handed a shitty situation, she volunteered for the job, and then upped the level of fucked the party found itself in by calling snap elections that cost them their majority.
So it’s not a question of “Who would be better?” because Brexit was never supposed to have happened in the first place. Once you’re past that point, all you’re left with is 31 flavors of shit.
re: #100 ObserverArt
She like many have just stop showing up. Kragar is no longer around either. As are many others.
It is sort of disappointing because you get interested in what everyone is doing, etc. and then they don’t come around any longer.
As far as ‘mouse, he seems to have quit because he got some kickback over a comment about the Kentucky kids and that not everyone joined him in his stance.
He said he could no longer post here because we were more or less making excuses for the kids.
He seems to have lumped everyone together as one against him, which is far from the truth.
Where is it written that everyone needs to be on the same page on a political debate forum?
I saw that he returned after that. I like AM. I do but I think he acted like a jerk to Wheat the day of that disagreement. And considering the wrong kid had initially been identified, I feel Wheat who is a teacher and probably has more experience with high school kids than AM was justified in urging against doxxing. No one said the criticism of the Covington kids wasn’t without merit. And you’re right. We’re not always going to agree. You and I had a good discussion about O’Rourke and the tax issue the other day that was civil even though we had some disagreement.
re: #101 plansbandc
Sexist as hell.
It’s an attempt to scientifically (eye roll) call a man a pussy. Because the worst thing anyone could ever be is feminine.
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New USA Today/Suffolk U poll finds trust in Mueller dropping.
Ummm… why wouldn’t it be dropping? Trump spends every moment of every day fixated on the moment when Mueller’s next indictment is going to come out, and attacking Mueller nonstop. He’s got all the networks covering his every word and utterance and Fox magnifies those anti-Mueller sentiments even more.
In Mueller’s corner is…. *crickets*. Mueller isn’t talking, because his job is to investigate Trumpworld, not reply to every fucking Tweet Trump issues from the shitter.
It’s also why we’re in dangerous uncharted waters here because Mueller is not going to save the nation or the Constitution. Far too many have bought into Trump/GOP worldview and ignoring the Constitution is far too easy for the GOP to do these days (as witnessed by the approval of Trump’s national emergency by far too many GOPers in Congress).
what exactly qualifies as food ‘with sauce’ i mean are we talking only chicken fried steak smothered in gravy or does the lemon capers and butter on chicken piccata qualify as sauce
i mean what is sauce even— darth™ (@darth) March 18, 2019
also do not sleep on the incidental sauces like when u sneak a plate of french fries under a roasting rotisserie chicken do not neglect the incidental sauces they can change your life
— darth™ (@darth) March 18, 2019
eggs benedict is egg sauce on eggs this is just science
— darth™ (@darth) March 18, 2019
See, in the minds of the Tories, this is how things were supposed to go:
- Conservative Party wins a majority by promising a referendum on Brexit, undercutting UKIP’s popularity and drawing in their voters to shore up the Tory far-right.
- The referendum is held, with everybody expecting low turnout and a “Leave” vote in the lower double digits (if that), leaving Farange with egg of his face and the Brexit crowd looking like a vocal but tiny minority of voters.
- Cameron goes out and promises the Leavers that while the referendum failed, he would be pursuing a harsher line with the EU about immigration policies, with the threat that if the UK didn’t get more favorable policies then they’d hold another referendum.
- UKIP would have been slowly folded into the Conservative Party as the latter took up the former’s call for Brexit but in a more “moderate” fashion.
Cameron was totally too clever by half and that was what totally fucked him and the Tories.
re: #107 Targetpractice
See, in the minds of the Tories, this is how things were supposed to go:
- Conservative Party wins a majority by promising a referendum on Brexit, undercutting UKIP’s popularity and drawing in their voters to shore up the Tory far-right.
- The referendum is held, with everybody expecting low turnout and a “Leave” vote in the lower double digits (if that), leaving Farange with egg of his face and the Brexit crowd looking like a vocal but tiny minority of voters.
- Cameron goes out and promises the Leavers that while the referendum failed, he would be pursuing a harsher line with the EU about immigration policies, with the threat that if the UK didn’t get more favorable policies then they’d hold another referendum.
- UKIP would have been slowly folded into the Conservative Party as the latter took up the former’s call for Brexit but in a more “moderate” fashion.
Cameron was totally too clever by half and that was what totally fucked him and the Tories.
Add to that you got Labour on a truly far left path and Corbyn.
re: #89 unproven innocence
Concerning VPNs, you can’t expect your bank(s) to be totally ok with repeated attempted logins FAR from where they know you live, unless they don’t care at all about security. They *might* be ok with it provided it happens only rarely.
I have multiple pcs, and several browers on each, so for my banking needs, letting cookies live beyond a single browser session could potentially cause me some problems. (Hey, you are using a different browser/pc/os, not what we usually see when you login, so would you please answer this security Q?) So I prefer that cookies expire in ALL browsers when the browser is closed (ie, “session-only” cookies setting), by default. Also, I prefer using (almost aways) just one browser on one PC for banking.
However, I have found it necessary to use three or so different profiles within a single browser because it is near-impossible to have a single secure browser configuration that works everywhere without issues. For example, one bank insists that cross-site scripting be allowed, as it hands off to onlinebank[dot]com (or whatever) during login. But that’s a scripting behaviour that is so broadly abused by malware that it should be blocked by default. With NoScript add-on, it IS blocked by default, except perhaps for some whitelisted sites. So I can allow that relaxed setting, but only in that one profile, which is used only for that one banking site. Everywhere else, cross-site scripting is generally forbidden.
No, that’s not it.
If I use the VPN and then turn it off (and close out the app), I can no longer access my bank on a separate attempt. The VPN borks up my entire phone. I had to hard reset my router last time.
So I just don’t use the VPN any longer.
re: #100 ObserverArt
My saddest losses were Jordan and BassReeves. I miss them both very much.
I either missed or had forgotten that Public Integrity was doing the Broidy probe. Think that means Mueller has spun pieces off or produced evidence/cooperators for five offices that we know of: SDNY, DC, EDVA, NSD, Crim. Tentacles everywhere. https://t.co/p9zgmPsH9z
— Matthew Miller (@matthewamiller) March 18, 2019
as lawhawk would say, it would appear that Broidy is fooked (a legal term)
re: #102 Targetpractice
It was supposed to fail.
They didn’t consider the lies and Murdoch newspapers for the olds.
oh…
So the U.S. state department is segregating press access based on reporters’ religious beliefs?! In America?! https://t.co/4z3ScDcodA
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) March 18, 2019
re: #111 MsJ
My saddest losses were Jordan and BassReeves. I miss them both very much.
We all do. I guess we (the collective LGF, because once again what a few did is held against the whole board) won’t get a chance to make amends.
And I do not understand that. How do you get past all forms of racism if you can’t talk it out?
re: #102 Targetpractice
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It’s success was the worst possible scenario for the Tories because they had no plan for the damned thing actually happening. They figured Brexit would barely make it into the double digits, so they had no roadmap or preliminary plan for the negotiations that invoking Article 50 would required. Then they compounded their bad luck by having a leadership crisis, with Cameron bailing and catching Johnson and Farange with the shrapnel on the way out. May wasn’t handed a shitty situation, she volunteered for the job, and then upped the level of fucked the party found itself in by calling snap elections that cost them their majority.
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Nobody thought it would pass but it did. So May volunteered to “save the day” when Cameron bailed and she exacerbated the situation. But, given that Brexit actually passed, was there any Tory who would have handled the situation better? If not, then is it fair to blame her except for her ignorance in thinking she could do anything? So if she hadn’t volunteered, it would be a different Tory who would be reaping all the abuse.
when he realized iowa was blue? https://t.co/3XjdfJ5MkC
— darth™ (@darth) March 18, 2019
re: #109 HappyWarrior
Add to that you got Labour on a truly far left path and Corbyn.
In such a scenario, Labour would have been left standing around holding their dicks, as Cameron would have neutralized the biggest obstacle to the Conservative Party leading a majority gov’t: Nigel Farange and the godsdamned UKIP. Corbyn would have been an even bigger albatross for Labour because he’s personally pro-Brexit, a position that right now makes it laughable that he’s leader of the party that insists it is pro-Remain.
So what you’d have is a Cameron who had fulfilled a campaign promise of holding a referendum and in the process gelding one of the noisiest provocateurs in British politics, secured his party’s majority by shoring up its far-right flank, and provided a new talking point about holding a future referendum over Brussels.
*blink*
Anthony Comello, Suspect in Gambino Crime Boss Murder, Showed Up to Court with ‘MAGA Forever’ Written On His Hand https://t.co/GPoWxB4bZz pic.twitter.com/pBjdNeUYII
— Law & Crime (@lawcrimenews) March 18, 2019
re: #115 ObserverArt
We all do. I guess we (the collective LGF, because once again what a few did is held against the whole board) won’t get a chance to make amends.
And I do not understand that. How do you get past all forms of racism if you can’t talk it out?
Everybody gets to decide for themselves where they are comfortable with what.
re: #116 Hecuba’s daughter
Nobody thought it would pass but it did. So May volunteered to “save the day” when Cameron bailed and she exacerbated the situation. But, given that Brexit actually passed, was there any Tory who would have handled the situation better? If not, then is it fair to blame her except for her ignorance in thinking she could do anything? So if she hadn’t volunteered, it would be a different Tory who would be reaping all the abuse.
Yes, it’s totally fair to blame someone when they have ample opportunities to bail from a bad situation but they stay on because “there’s nobody better.” Nothing she has done has helped the situation, whether for her party or for the nation, so there is no redeeming quality to her stewardship of this clusterfuck.
Big if true https://t.co/eamuolKoVW
— Joe Sonka 😐 (@joesonka) March 18, 2019
This is what Pelosi and Schumer are asking for in the investigation into Cindy Yang pic.twitter.com/itc0ZNuNIV
— Sam Stein (@samstein) March 18, 2019
By the way, why is it taken as a given that there’s “nobody better” than May? Is it because she has some quality or skill for negotiation and leadership that has somehow kept this shitshow from becoming apocalyptic by comparison? Or is it (more likely) just a case of nobody wanting to step up and be the new whipping boy, so that she seems “better” because the alternative is a hot potato being tossed around until some unlucky bastard ends up catching it?
If you think it’s really pretty, there’s more. If you find it creepy, don’t look.
The Bobbitt worm here buries itself in the ocean floor, where it patiently waits for prey to swim or walk by. When something brushes against its antennae, it strikes so viciously and rapidly that it sometimes slices its prey clean in half. 1/ pic.twitter.com/CcBz5HpdLE
— Anna Hughes (@AnnaGHughes) March 18, 2019
re: #127 wrenchwench
If you think it’s really pretty, there’s more. If you find it creepy, don’t look.
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re: #123 Targetpractice
Yes, it’s totally fair to blame someone when they have ample opportunities to bail from a bad situation but they stay on because “there’s nobody better.” Nothing she has done has helped the situation, whether for her party or for the nation, so there is no redeeming quality to her stewardship of this clusterfuck.
So it comes down to — as someone here (don’t recall who) quoted the classic lines the other day —
A STRANGE GAME.
THE ONLY WINNING MOVE IS
NOT TO PLAY.
re: #121 wrenchwench
Everybody gets to decide for themselves where they are comfortable with what.
They do.
I’ll give up trying to explain what I mean because it isn’t easy to explain the wake an individual choice makes in a group setting.
re: #109 HappyWarrior
Add to that you got Labour on a truly far left path and Corbyn.
Except Corbyn wants Brexit, too.
re: #129 Hecuba’s daughter
So it comes down to — as someone here (don’t recall who) quoted the classic lines the other day —
A STRANGE GAME.
THE ONLY WINNING MOVE IS
NOT TO PLAY.
The winning move for May’s career would have been to step down at PM ages ago, the first prime opportunity being after the snap elections reduced the Tories to a minority government. She could probably have kept her seat, but she would have never been PM ever again. Every step of the way after that has simply been compounding bad decisions, leading to a situation now where they don’t simply want her out of the leadership, they want her gone.
Soooo. Captain Marvel. Yeah. It was pretty friggin’ great. :)
re: #113 MsJ
It was supposed to fail.
They didn’t consider the lies and Murdoch newspapers for the olds.
And the Cambridge Analytica/Facebook/Russia fuckery for the youngs.
re: #110 MsJ
No, that’s not it.
If I use the VPN and then turn it off (and close out the app), I can no longer access my bank on a separate attempt. The VPN borks up my entire phone. I had to hard reset my router last time.
So I just don’t use the VPN any longer.
Ok. Didn’t realize it was your phone being used for banking. I’ve not gotten into using VPNs yet, but I do use a separate router/wifi just for my Samsung phone —which I’ve used just once for banking, recently.
I suppose it’s possible that your phone might have been using DNS server addresses offered by your VPN service, but that they might then be unavailable without the VPN service being ON, until you reset your router. I’m guessing your phone would then get whatever default DNS adresses your router would offer. Or whatever your cellular service provided if you didn’t use your local wifi.
re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Suspect in Gambino Crime Boss Murder Showed Up to Court with ‘MAGA Forever’ Written On His Hand
Sure looks like a Q in the middle.
Imagine for a moment you are President of the United States.
You can convene the best minds to address the world’s most pressing problems, and improve the lives of millions
Instead, you watch a single TV network, promote and defend those who propagate your falsehoods
How sad.— Adam Schiff (@AdamSchiff) March 17, 2019
re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth
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That bigoted asshole just doesn’t learn. BTW Steve. You’re not winning any fight. You’re scared of our cities which unlike your district have a real sense of community to them. Your side would turn on each other quickly.
Things at FOX News are a changin’
Lib Murdoch boys are calling the shots.
Need a viewer revolt. I stopped watching after they axed Roger Ailes, Bill Shine, Eric Bolling and Bill O’Reilly.
They now lean center left.
I watch @newsmax @OANN https://t.co/aHHt06fTVl— David A. Clarke, Jr. (@SheriffClarke) March 17, 2019
re: #142 Belafon
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Okay Sheriff Stupid. That really goes to show how little you know abou ideology because FNC still ahs the morons that lick Trump’s ass every day.
re: #143 HappyWarrior
Okay Sheriff Stupid. That really goes to show how little you know about policy because FNC still ahs the morons that lick Trump’s ass every day.
There’s probably a fair amount of sour grapes there, too. Remember, Sheriff Flair was recently dropped as a FNC contributor, because he got too crazy even for them.
re: #143 HappyWarrior
Okay Sheriff Stupid. That really goes to show how little you know about policy because FNC still ahs the morons that lick Trump’s ass every day.
The more they fight with each other, the better.
re: #144 makeitstop
There’s probably a fair amount of sour grapes there, too. Remember, Sheriff Flair was recently dropped as a FNC contributor, because he got too crazy even for them.
Yeah that’s right. I had forgotten that he got axed.
‘I Don’t Want My Client To Be Blindsided’: Executives and Their Lawyers Brace for Rep. Katie Porter’s Questions https://t.co/OdzmZQP82I
— Ryan Barber (@cryanbarber) March 18, 2019
Rep. @katieporteroc has developed a distinct questioning style: using a company’s own court arguments against its CEO.
“This tactic is a new and particularly effective example of what has long been the risk for a corporate executive, the face of a company, testifying in Congress” https://t.co/LKYNjPQNsr— Ryan Barber (@cryanbarber) March 18, 2019
re: #138 Amory Blaine
Suspect in Gambino Crime Boss Murder Showed Up to Court with ‘MAGA Forever’ Written On His Hand
Sure looks like a Q in the middle.
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— ꜱᴀᴍ ᴛʜɪᴇʟᴍᴀɴ (@samthielman) March 18, 2019
re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Reading the comments and seeing idiots posting that Q is going after the Mafia.
Beyond insanity!
Please enjoy Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar bringing his boyfriend to meet Mike Pence. pic.twitter.com/xLUb1o8Bng
— Alyssa Milano (@Alyssa_Milano) March 18, 2019
re: #144 makeitstop
There’s probably a fair amount of sour grapes there, too. Remember, Sheriff Flair was recently dropped as a FNC contributor, because he got too crazy even for them.
Too crazy for them Lib Murdoch boys, the new them, not the old him.
Maybe all those advertising boycotts started to get to those Lib boys after all and they decided if they wanted to have anything left to inherit from the ol’ man, getting programming that might bring advertisers is needed.
I think it is called business, and damn do we need the conservatives to be bad for business everywhere. Nothing brings change faster in America than the desire to make and not lose money.
😂😂😂😂 pic.twitter.com/ftzT5SJrzO
— gunner-gal26 (@gunner_x49) March 18, 2019
re: #147 Dread Pirate Whitebeard
With so many lawyers in Congress, you’d think that this is something that would be fairly common already. As a litigator, one of the best things was coming across a party that made contradictory claims in prior cases. It sets up the old “so, are you lying now or were you lying then?” scenario.
re: #12 Blind Frog Belly White
Seriously, if someone tells you, over and over and over, that they don’t like dogs, believe them. Getting them one won’t be good for the dog, and won’t improve them.
No! No dog for Trump!
Trump would take the dog into his bathroom at night, hold its head under water, and laugh as it struggles.
Trump is a sadist. Pure evil.
He lives only to hurt and take delight in other’s pain.
Trump would kick a dog to death. And laugh while he was doing it.
moron is so full of shit
My team is staying in close contact with Governor Kim Reynolds (@IAGovernor) of Iowa and the local officials managing these floods. We support you and thank all of the first responders working long hours to help the great people of Iowa! https://t.co/mZ4grxQ1Sa
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 18, 2019
Our prayers are with the great people of South Dakota. We are staying in close contact with @GovKristiNoem and all the State and Local leaders during and after these devastating floods. Everyone be safe! https://t.co/9CNcPJZ3qi
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 18, 2019
re: #126 Targetpractice
By the way, why is it taken as a given that there’s “nobody better” than May? Is it because she has some quality or skill for negotiation and leadership that has somehow kept this shitshow from becoming apocalyptic by comparison? Or is it (more likely) just a case of nobody wanting to step up and be the new whipping boy, so that she seems “better” because the alternative is a hot potato being tossed around until some unlucky bastard ends up catching it?
The latter, I fear. I have mixed feelings for May. She knew this was going to be tough and absolutely did not have to take the job. Her first decision was putting Boris Johnson as foreign sec. He may have some qualities I’m not aware of but literally ANY job in the reformed cabinet would have been better. Almost every decision she has taken since then seems not to have worked, either.
But she hasn’t quit.
With all the sniping, obstructive wings of her own party and the Parliament working against them, I think many others would have by now.
Perhaps she should quit, I dunno, but the fact that nobody else is stepping up makes me appreciate, perhaps just a little, that she’s trying to see it out.
The fact no one else is an obvious leader to do this, is maybe a telling point in her favour…
I am godless. pic.twitter.com/ZAeU3t3cbB
— Black Metal Cats (@evilbmcats) March 18, 2019
So, your options are breathe this shit and die or seal yourself in a box and die. Have a great day, Houston! https://t.co/bGFormlDrL
— Blue Heron Farm (@BlueHeronFarmTX) March 18, 2019
re: #154 plansbandc
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re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth
I might have to go back out to the country for a couple of days.
re: #147 Dread Pirate Whitebeard
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I’m really liking Rep. Katie Porter.
She studied under Elizabeth Warren at Yale so she has some political moxie.
She has a nice pleasant manner about her and then she goes for the throat with heavy questions that are hard to run away from.
Rachel Maddow asked her if she plans out how she uses her five minutes in sessions to get as much done as she does?
The young Democrat Reps are kicking ass, and they are doing it much in their own ways. It is refreshing. Hopefully that wipes out any questions as to women being good at politics in an old-boys world. They are embarrassing those old boys.
re: #86 MsJ
That whole alpha make drives the ugly narrative as much as white supremacy does. Real men kill people. Real men beat their women.
It’s as toxic as everything else.
Real men are apparently supposed to be complete assholes and contemptible bullies.
This whole line of thinking is projection from angry little guys who apparently either got bullied in school - or who have been convinced by 40 years of right-wing propaganda that they are being bullied by the big, all-powerful lib’ruls (who are also at the same time week-kneed, limp-wristed wimps).
It’s so fucking juvenile; it’d be sad if these punks didn’t band together to beef up each other’s courage and then rat-pack people.
“The levees are busted and we aren’t even into the wet season when the rivers run high.” Authorities say about 200 miles of levees have either been breached or overtopped in Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri and Kansas. https://t.co/WzgRvqd3Wy
— AP Central U.S. (@APCentralRegion) March 18, 2019
re: #157 plansbandc
Trump would kick a dog to death. And laugh while he was doing it.
No way. He would ignore the dog and let it starve to death.
re: #164 ObserverArt
I’m really liking Rep. Katie Porter.
She studied under Elizabeth Warren at Yale so she has some political moxie.
She has a nice pleasant manner about her and then she goes for the throat with heavy questions that are hard to run away from.
Rachel Maddow asked her if she plans out how she uses her five minutes in sessions to get as much done as she does?
The young Democrat Reps are kicking ass, and they are doing it much in their own ways. It is refreshing. Hopefully that wipes out any questions as to women being good at politics in an old-boys world. They are embarrassing those old boys.
They really are a lot of great ones. This was a great freshman class. Hopefully we get some good ones next year and in the Senate too.
re: #168 Hecuba’s daughter
No way. He would ignore the dog and let it starve to death.
And then blame the dog.
re: #168 Hecuba’s daughter
That would be the long game. I still think he’d kick it to death if it chewed on or peed on something.
Russia decides to deploy nuclear-capable strategic bombers to Crimea: RIA https://t.co/90OeDtQPmH pic.twitter.com/1rHXjA9LLH
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) March 18, 2019
what can go wrong?
re: #171 plansbandc
That would be the long game. I still think he’d kick it to death if it chewed on or peed on something.
There really is something to be said about Trump not liking animals. He doesn’t seem to be a particularly devoted father either.
Just looked on a map at Nebraska and the area around where anymouse lives. He’s only a mile plus away from the North Platte River. I hope he is okay as I think the North Platte was one of the flooding areas in the state. It is long so, no idea how big it is in ‘mouses area. He’s been beaten about by the weather for some time now, no one needs flooding on top of it all.
re: #173 HappyWarrior
There really is something to be said about Trump not liking animals. He doesn’t seem to be a particularly devoted father either.
And the really ironic thing is a dog would give him the unconditional love he craves so badly.
But yeah, I’m in the ‘No dog for Trump’ camp. That son of a bitch doesn’t deserve a dog.
re: #173 HappyWarrior
There really is something to be said about Trump not liking animals. He doesn’t seem to be a particularly devoted father either.
There’s plenty of evidence that he is a complete piece of shit garbage human in every way before we even get to “he doesn’t like children or animals”.
re: #176 Jack Burton
There’s plenty of evidence that he is a complete piece of shit garbage human in every way before we even get to “he doesn’t like children or animals”.
True.
re: #175 makeitstop
And the really ironic thing is a dog would give him the unconditional love he craves so badly.
But yeah, I’m in the ‘No dog for Trump’ camp. That son of a bitch doesn’t deserve a dog.
Absolutely
re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #176 Jack Burton
There’s plenty of evidence that he is a complete piece of shit garbage human in every way before we even get to “he doesn’t like children or animals”.
Reminds me of a former coworker. Blind had a beautiful guide dog that we caught her beating. Made us so angry that we contacted the guide dog agency and provided pictures of the abuse.
They took the dog away from her and blocked her from ever getting another one.
She tried to file a union grievance and they refused…because they took the pictures documenting the abuse.
She quit soon after that.
re: #174 ObserverArt
Just looked on a map at Nebraska and the area around where anymouse lives. He’s only a mile plus away from the North Platte River. I hope he is okay as I think the North Platte was one of the flooding areas in the state. It is long so, no idea how big it is in ‘mouses area. He’s been beaten about by the weather for some time now, no one needs flooding on top of it all.
And hopefully, if AM is still lurking here, he’ll drop a comment or two to let us know he’s OK.
re: #171 plansbandc
That would be the long game. I still think he’d kick it to death if it chewed on or peed on something.
Nah, passively letting something starve wouldn’t reward his inner Cruel Toddler enough. He has to see others squirm - remember the Mitt Romney dinner photo?
Later, Trump made Mitt get down on his knees and polish his shoes with his tongue. Mitch McConnell apparently has no problem doing this on a daily basis.Trump needs to make others hurt as much as he hurts inside.
It’s so fucked up.
Breaking news perks: I’ve learned more about chemistry in the past four hours than I did in four years of high school #deerparkfirehttps://t.co/YKvjTJB9gH
— Sarah Smith (@sarahesmith23) March 18, 2019
Because no dog should die alone in a shelter, I sprung 19 year-old Popeye after work today. Welcome to The Hot Mess Express buddy. 🚂❤️😅 pic.twitter.com/CqepiUdVy0
— Sarah Lauch (@SarahLauch) March 18, 2019
“KEVIN, MOVE DAMMIT, I’VE GOT THIS” pic.twitter.com/7eYJ7fraU3
— Paul Bronks (@SlenderSherbet) March 18, 2019
such an embarrassing moron
Trump hails Greek-Americans’ contributions in “business, science, education, music, religion, and sports.” He adds, “They didn’t say ‘sports.’ I added ‘sports.’ I know a lot of great athletes. That’s true…They didn’t have that one. That’s not good. Have to fire that writer.”
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) March 18, 2019
re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth
Our National Embarassment Olympian
re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth
such an embarrassing moron
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A Trump admin official told a media conference call, on condition of anonymity, that “obviously, there’s great synergy there and there’s a great mutual respect” between Trump and far-right Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro, who will meet tomorrow.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) March 18, 2019
O_o
re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth
such an embarrassing moron
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Trump hails Greek-Americans’ contributions in “business, science, education, music, religion, and sports.” He adds, “They didn’t say ‘sports.’ I added ‘sports.’ I know a lot of great athletes. That’s true…They didn’t have that one. That’s not good. Have to fire that writer.”
I guess Ms. McIver will have to fall on her quill again…
re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth
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DATELINE May 3, 1938
Hitler and Mussolini meet in Rome.
It got a little hairy yesterday, my birthday ride home! https://t.co/p093eDu6um pic.twitter.com/yqWbE3X2Kr
— Muckmaker™ (@RealMuckmaker) March 18, 2019
re: #33 Charles Johnson
It’s bad that I laughed at that. Sigh.
re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth
He just consults his big and tremendous picture book of stereotypes for what to say to a particular group of people.
re: #192 Jack Burton
DATELINE May 3, 1938
Hitler and Mussolini meet in Rome.
But Putin isn’t present?
please clap…
While the press doesn’t like writing about it, nor do I need them to, I donate my yearly Presidential salary of $400,000.00 to different agencies throughout the year, this to Homeland Security. If I didn’t do it there would be hell to pay from the FAKE NEWS MEDIA! pic.twitter.com/xqIGUOwh4x
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 18, 2019
re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Is a repeat of 2008 on the horizon with CLO’s being the 2019 version of credit defaut swaps? nytimes.com
i would say that if u have the sauce on the side there is no such thing as too much sauce https://t.co/KqJdRonHRg
— darth™ (@darth) March 18, 2019
Your America, @LindseyGrahamSC? https://t.co/sPF8CUipyb
— Col. Morris Davis (@ColMorrisDavis) March 18, 2019
re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth
I hope nobody is surprised by this. The warning signs have been perfectly clear since he took office.
re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth
They’re fine with a dictator as long as he’s THEIR dictator.
re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth
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How many golf outings at Mar-A-Lago does that pay for?
for our evening amusement:
So anyway, this is happening. pic.twitter.com/F9KtEJcY1a
— Brad Heath (@bradheath) March 18, 2019
In state court in Virginia, weirdly enough.
— Brad Heath (@bradheath) March 18, 2019
For those who’ve asked, @big_cases can’t follow cases in state court. (Or in E.D. Va., which might be where this is headed.)
— Brad Heath (@bradheath) March 18, 2019
re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth
I’m curious how Virginia State Court has jurisdiction. Nunes is a citizen of California, Mair is in DC. Twitter is likely a Delaware corporation but is headquartered in California (in twitter’s case there’s a solid argument that they have sufficient contacts with most any jurisdiction, but still, preference is usually given to where the corporate headquarters is located, especially if plaintiff is from the same state). Most likely, this is going to end up in the Northern District of California, would be my guess. Or maybe the district of DC.
re: #207 KGxvi
I’m curious how Virginia State Court has jurisdiction. Nunes is a citizen of California, Mair is in DC. Twitter is likely a Delaware corporation but is headquartered in California (in twitter’s case there’s a solid argument that they have sufficient contacts with most any jurisdiction, but still, preference is usually given to where the corporate headquarters is located, especially if plaintiff is from the same state). Most likely, this is going to end up in the Northern District of California, would be my guess. Or maybe the district of DC.
maybe the cow lives in Virginia…
re: #206 freetoken
Current twitter trends is America is a nutshell:
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re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Bahahahahahahahahaha! Oh, discovery on that one would be glorious.
re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth
the greatest exhibit ever in a federal complaint? pic.twitter.com/2bTSkOcIcq
— Dan Nguyen (@dancow) March 18, 2019
Poor Devin Nunes! Someone on Twitter pretended to be his mom and said mean things about him! And they also pretended to be his cow!
So now Nunes is suing Twitter for $250MM, alleging that the platform was “complicit” in shadow-banning conservatives.
More working the refs to ensure that hate speech for white racist murderers goes unchecked and unpunished: foxnews.com
Trying to make sense of why all those twitter trends are trending at one time….
Beto, Grover, and Jesus walk into a Miami bar to watch the NCAA on ESPN, and in his over-exuberant way Grover shouts “Texas Tech all the way”. Beto looks over to Grover and says “isn’t it great in America that we can all get along”, to which Jesus replies “impeach that motherfucker Trump already!”
Beto, Grover, and Jesus walk into a Miami bar to watch the NCAA on ESPN, and Grover exuberantly shouts “Texas Tech all the way”. Beto looks over and says “isn’t it great in America that we can all get along”, to which Jesus replies “impeach that motherfucker Trump already!”
— freetoken fights fecking fascists (@freetoken) March 18, 2019
re: #206 freetoken
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I’m a new member of the church of Grover.
What is it with these 250 million dollar lawsuits trying to suppress free speech? The Covington brat and now Devin Nunes? Is there some magical reason associated with the 250 million number?
re: #218 Hecuba’s daughter
What is it with these 250 million dollar lawsuits trying to suppress free speech? The Covington brat and now Devin Nunes? Is there some magical reason associated with the 250 million number?
I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to be so big that it scares people and companies into self-censoring.
BEES!
if you were or are the friendly gent (blue coat) who was in the shop half an hour ago and left a big jar of bees on the table in the poetry section, please come back and reclaim your jar of bees. if you aren’t, please rt until we find him #FindTheBeeGent
— LRB Bookshop (@LRBbookshop) March 16, 2019
re: #219 Belafon
I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to be so big that it scares people and companies into self-censoring.
I’ve got to believe these lawsuits are being financed by some malevolent force with deep pockets: the Mercers, Peter Thiel, the Koch Bros, Putin?
re: #218 Hecuba’s daughter
What is it with these 250 million dollar lawsuits trying to suppress free speech? The Covington brat and now Devin Nunes? Is there some magical reason associated with the 250 million number?
I know I’ve asked this question before, but what (in the considered opinion of the more law-savvy among us) is the likelihood of these big-ticket suits ever going anywhere? My own IANAL notion is that the plaintiffs are liklier to die of old age than see any money from these stunts, but what do I know….?
re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter
I’ve got to believe these lawsuits are being financed by some malevolent force with deep pockets: the Mercers, Peter Thiel, the Koch Bros, Putin?
I wouldn’t be entirely surprised, but filing is cheap. Maybe we could find someone to fund the other side just to see Nunes in court.
Bennu is ready for its close-up! New images obtained by our @OSIRISREx spacecraft reveals “ponds” of regolith — bedrock layered with loose dust or broken rocks. These images were taken 1.1 miles (1.8 km) from the asteroid’s surface. Take a flyby: https://t.co/B5WgY06oAs pic.twitter.com/x8u7lrKBWd
— NASA (@NASA) March 18, 2019
re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth
please clap…
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Each Mar-A-Lago golf outing you gouge the taxpayers $1 million PER DAY so your crappy “donation” covers about 10 hours. And meanwhile you grift millions from your Emoluments properties. #TheResistance #Resist #MAGA https://t.co/NpBkqprJdG
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) March 18, 2019
Nothing to see here, just the president of the United States watching Fox News all day. pic.twitter.com/Clbvzr0GCt
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 18, 2019
LOL the complaint calls the human centipede a “sexual act”.
re: #14 Hecuba’s daughter
So when will Scotland vote again on SCExit? And would the EU automatically accept them as a member?
Their economy is very dependent on England - they would have difficulty taking up the Euro but whether they could become part of the EU & retain the UK Pound - that would be interesting.
I can think of no logical reason why canada geese evolved to be this gangsterpic.twitter.com/rdogfgDBQV
— SPECIES (@SpeciesPodcast) March 18, 2019
I do declare, the good character of Mr. Devin Nunes has been soiled.
Whatever shall we do?
re: #227 KingKenrod
LOL the complaint calls the human centipede a “sexual act”.
Whoever filed the lawsuit was clearly ignorant about contemporary z-rated horror films but twitter was not similarly uneducated.
How is this real? https://t.co/yhzMXKd6SC
— Downtown Griffy Newmz (@GriffLightning) March 17, 2019
Thank you
— Ed Asner (@TheOnlyEdAsner) March 18, 2019
A day before the @GOP posted Beto O’Rourke’s 1998 mugshot for a DWI, the executive director of the @LAGOP was arrested in New Orleans at 1:30AM (on the night of his wedding) for battery on a police officer. https://t.co/kxh2KCKhYs pic.twitter.com/rhZB2kS81W
— Lamar White, Jr. (@LamarWhiteJr) March 18, 2019
awkward…
That list includes military training centers in Virginia, a plant to prevent water contamination at Camp Lejeune, a cybersecurity facility in Georgia. I hope my colleagues in Congress will take a serious look at this and then vote to OVERRIDE the President’s veto.
— Tim Kaine (@timkaine) March 18, 2019
re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth
Pelosi can take the fun out of this by embargoing replacement of any appropriation that is pillaged for the wall.
re: #227 KingKenrod
LOL the complaint calls the human centipede a “sexual act”.
Perhaps it is the way Nunes does it?
re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth
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No place needs better border security, except maybe between Illinois and Indiana to keep guns out of Chicago.
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) March 19, 2019
And after all, the Department of Homeland Security can really use an extra hundred grand. https://t.co/erVh0COXdj
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 19, 2019
I mean, the DHS budget is only $47.5 billion a year. That hundred grand from Trump will really come in handy.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 19, 2019
re: #240 Charles Johnson
Something tells me that $100,000 is going to once again wind up in Trump’s pocket as a kickback.
re: #241 Joe Bacon 🌹
Something tells me that $100,000 is going to once again wind up in Trump’s pocket as a kickback.
“Homeland Security” must be a stripper name.
Excellent interview with Monica Lewinsky. I deeply respect her as a human now, she’s doing good work, and she’s whip smart and witty.
A discussion about Beto during Nicole Wallace’s show today. John Heilemann was hosting today. He was recently out and about with Beto. A panel discusses Beto’s style and substance. It’s a good starting point on how the media is going to approach Beto now that he is a little more known.
re: #217 Belafon
I’m a new member of the church of Grover.
I was gonna join, but the secret ritual involving Gonzo and Beaker sacrificing one of the Spitting Image puppets was a bit creepy.
re: #241 Joe Bacon 🌹
Something tells me that $100,000 is going to once again wind up in Trump’s pocket as a kickback.
Something tells me that’s a fake ass check.
This may not be the greatest exhibit in the history of Federal Court system, but it is a strong contender.
Does Nunes know that he has now enshrined his place as back bitch in the shit-gobbling human centipede for all time?
the greatest exhibit ever in a federal complaint? pic.twitter.com/2bTSkOcIcq
— Dan Nguyen (@dancow) March 18, 2019
Also: WTF is “herp-face”? Something to do with herpes on your face? I get that as an insult, but what would that look like in the really real world?
Never mind. Please do not go to Google for this. Post no images. Move along.
Many people are saying that Donald Trump’s I.Q. is in the negative numbers. Toe fungus has been measured with a higher I.Q. than Donald J. Trump. #TheResistance https://t.co/AcZkdcCVr6
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) March 19, 2019
Choose your fighter. pic.twitter.com/dL2qxfI5Eh
— Royam (@fuguhitman) March 18, 2019
Normally, the President of the United States would immediately condemn the use of state power to silence and jail people who criticize an authoritarian regime. Instead, the current president fantasizes about being able to do the same in the United States. https://t.co/5Lbn0lLSHU
— Brian Klaas (@brianklaas) March 18, 2019
Cutting edge policy innovation. https://t.co/ypNRKGkfLK
— Arvind P. Ravikumar (@arvindpawan1) March 19, 2019
re: #247 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)
This may not be the greatest exhibit in the history of Federal Court system, but it is a strong contender.
Does Nunes know that he has now enshrined his place as back bitch in the shit-gobbling human centipede for all time?
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Also: WTF is “herp-face”? Something to do with herpes on your face? I get that as an insult, but what would that look like in the really real world?
Never mind. Please do not go to Google for this. Post no images. Move along.
Herp face probably means less as in herpes and more as in herp a derp.
Hope that helps you sleep a little more soundly tonight.
re: #250 Dread Pirate Whitebeard
From the tweet: “Instead, the current president fantasizes about being able to do the same in the United States.”
It should be added that any Trump fantasies are certain to be deeply pathological.
re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg
Something tells me that’s a fake ass check.
Has to be…it’s both impossible and illegal. Government agencies are not charities or investment opportunities.
Trump is freaking out on Twitter because Deutsche Bank is cooperating with the authorities.
Trump’s financial ties with Deutsche Bank are the subject of investigations by 2 congressional committees and the New York attorney general. Investigators hope to use Deutsche Bank as a window into Trump’s personal and business finances.https://t.co/VujC5zwyju
— The New York Times (@nytimes) March 18, 2019
Just catching up on the news, and it looks like another day in WTF happened to America. Devin Nunes discovered Twitter and is suing for ALL OF THEM KATIE, some anit-vax dipshit in Kentucky is suing the government so he can play his senior year of basketball and maybe kill some folks with lowered immune systems FOR FREEDUM, and the so called President is shit-posting at a dead senator among a dozen others instead of DOING HIS FUCKING JOB. This is fine …
So hard to keep up these days. https://t.co/645cI1dc7p
— Judy Kuhn (@JudyKuhn1) March 18, 2019
OK, I still haven’t seen the Devin Nunes suit, and there’s some question as to whether it’s real, but the short fingered vulgarian retweeted about it, so there’s that. So here’s some comments.
1) Twitter is a private platform that can manage itself however it sees fit as long as it is doing right by its shareholders. If Twitter wants to shadowban or deplatform people, it can and there’s not a damned thing Devin Nunes can do about that.
2) The lawsuit was filed in state court, which is the wrong court for the diverse plaintiffs. I think Liz Mair lives in New York and Twitter likely has its legal location in Delaware. So removal to federal court is going to happen if this thing goes anywhere.
3) Devin Nunes is a public figure and thus has to meet the New York Times v. Sullivan “actual malice” standard.
4) Devin Nunes is a politician, and political speech is pretty close to the heart of the 1st Amendment.
5) Anonymous political speech, such as from Twitter accounts like DevinNunesMom or DevinNunesCow, is so incredibly protected under the 1st Amendment. McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission (1995) struck down an Ohio law that didn’t allow for anonymous political speech, for example.
6) One of my lawyer buddies reminded me of the safe harbor provisions (Section 230) of the Communications Decency Act. Federal courts in California take a pretty expansive view about the protections afforded under Section 230 to Internet companies.
All of these things taken together indicate this thing is dumb, not likely to go anywhere and may end up getting dismissed. But it’s going to have to be litigated, unfortunately.
You know who’s really good at public shaming? Devin Nunes. He never fails to find a way to further shame himself.
Oh my fucking god this is funny…from the complaint:
“Devin Nunes’ Mom stated that Nunes had turned out worse than Jacob Wohl;”— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) March 19, 2019
re: #261 mmmirele
Yup, working the refs so they do the censoring themselves.
Ode to Snowflake Nunes.
Devin Nunes has taken the route
Of filing a damages suit.
He’s mad about how
His mom and his cow
Used Twitter to harm his repute.— Limericking (@Limericking) March 19, 2019
re: #251 teleskiguy
Every constituency needs a voice.
re: #259 Jason Munro
Just catching up on the news, and it looks like another day in WTF happened to America. Devin Nunes discovered Twitter and is suing for ALL OF THEM KATIE, some anit-vax dipshit in Kentucky is suing the government so he can play his senior year of basketball and maybe kill some folks with lowered immune systems FOR FREEDUM, and the so called President is shit-posting at a dead senator among a dozen others instead of DOING HIS FUCKING JOB. This is fine …
Correction: WTF is happening to the world…
This is one of the most bizzare election ad you have ever seen: Israel’s Minister of Justice (!!) Ayelet Shaked plays a model, sprays herself with “Fascism” perfume and says: “Smells like democracy to me”. Viktor Orban on steroids pic.twitter.com/s8Y4Oziw75
— Barak Ravid (@BarakRavid) March 18, 2019
re: #262 darthstar
You know who’s really good at public shaming? Devin Nunes. He never fails to find a way to further shame himself.
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I will pay the judge to call him a snowflake.
Nunes had to go all the way to Charlottesville to find an attorney, one Steven Biss. Apparently Biss has been suspended from the practice of law at least once previously. It says volumes to me that he couldn’t find a lawyer in Northern Virginia to take his case.
1. Devin Nunes attorney in his $250 million lawsuit against Twitter and the Devin Nunes’ Mom parody Twitter account, Steven Biss, had his law license suspended for all of 2009 for violating securities law and general incompetence https://t.co/KdU75g7vOg pic.twitter.com/BdNMBCwvOU
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) March 19, 2019
And then there’s this cluster of a case, which I don’t want to get into, but looks like a couple of conspiracy theorists battling it out.
That case is cray cray. Here’s this, for example…two pages of batshit crazy (the third page is addresses): It caught my eye because that post office is very close to my house.
re: #268 mmmirele
Nunes is from California, and Twitter is headquartered in California… so why didn’t Nunes sue in a California court?
JFC
Glenn Greenwald is on Fox News trashing MSNBC and not trying to hold Laura Ingraham accountable for her appalling bigotry at all. pic.twitter.com/3MC3sxSnTd
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 19, 2019
re: #270 The Vicious Babushka
good fucking grief
Glenn Greenwald.
I knew right away when he was writing about Edward Snowden that he was a huckster.
re: #269 freetoken
Nunes is from California, and Twitter is headquartered in California… so why didn’t Nunes sue in a California court?
Well, he’d have to sue in federal court for the diversity jurisdiction. Twitter likely has its legal location in Delaware. Plus, Liz Mair doesn’t live in California. And who the heck knows where DevinNunesMom and DevinNunesCow live.
Devin Nunes Mom account has been suspended but you can still follow Devin’s Cow:
Yes 🐄 https://t.co/K1TkFh4JbD
— Devin Nunes’ cow (@DevinCow) March 19, 2019
re: #273 teleskiguy
Glenn Greenwald.
I knew right away when he was writing about Edward Snowden that he was a huckster.
Especially after the way that prick stabbed Reality Winner in the back. Which makes me ask why at every turn has Greenwald come to the defense of Trump? Is he following Putin’s orders? Is he really Q?
re: #244 ObserverArt
A discussion about Beto during Nicole Wallace’s show today. John Heilemann was hosting today. He was recently out and about with Beto. A panel discusses Beto’s style and substance. It’s a good starting point on how the media is going to approach Beto now that he is a little more known.
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A few negative Beto stories on WaPo at the minute - seems a few folks are not wanting him in the race. So he’s probably getting it right.
re: #240 Charles Johnson
so trump was going to donate his salary to charity. He’s turning government departments into charities? Given he is running most into the ground, they probably need some charity.
“Ilhan Omar Removed From Congress.” Love when the YouTube algorithm recommends me some lies in between basketball videos pic.twitter.com/LP0d4acDCp
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) March 19, 2019
re: #270 The Vicious Babushka
A Glenn and a Ben who like the sound of their voices, and another Ben who hears voices - tonight on the Ingraham Angle.
Here is how a true leader behaves, cares, steps in and shows empathy. Thank you, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Arden. https://t.co/VfddfiGCyn
— Karine Jean-Pierre (@K_JeanPierre) March 18, 2019
I love New Zealand.
re: #272 The Vicious Babushka
Glenn Greenwald is Q!!!!
Why is Glenn a hack? Because he carries a well-ground axe and he uses it.
YouTube
In case you missed a high octane performance by Dick Dale of the song Nitro
re: #270 The Vicious Babushka
JFC
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The Ingraham angle, about thirty degrees from horizontal, all the fingers together in a plane.
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