A Fantastic New Brad Mehldau Piece and Video: “O Ephraim”

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Brad Mehldau’s “O Ephraim,” from his album Finding Gabriel, due May 17, 2019. Download the track now when you pre-order the album: http://smarturl.it/findinggabriel

On the song, Mehldau performs on OB-6 Polyphonic synthesizer, voice, Steinway C grand piano, drums, Fender Rhodes, Musser Ampli-Celeste, and Morfbeats gamelan strips.

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Artwork by Dima Drjuchin
Animated by Robert Edridge-Waks

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2019 • 11:11:50am
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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 11:13:23am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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And to be honest, I don’t feel sorry for the people he ripped off. You really thought crowdfunding would fund a government project? I mean I hope he does get what he deserves in the end but the marks are such idiots.

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A dark and stormy covfefe  May 12, 2019 • 11:14:57am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Is laughing wrong?

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Anymouse 🌹  May 12, 2019 • 11:16:06am

Hung out to dry on the previous thread:

re: #330 HappyWarrior

For all his cracks about liberals and safe spaces, he’s the one that lives in one. How else can you be if you assume that someone who thinks it’s barbaric to imprison women over abortion is a “leftist.” I’m really hoping that little show we saw starts cracking the armor at the image he’s made for himself. It showed me what I’ve known about Ben for a long time. There is literally no room for shades of gray in his world. You’re a leftist if oyu don’t share his worldview.

re: #342 Anymouse 🌹

Maybe he can team up with Kevin Williamson and start a nutter shortwave broadcast on the horrors of the liberal agenda.

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2019 • 11:18:54am
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Teddy's Person  May 12, 2019 • 11:20:39am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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deplorable (Thanks Hilary!)

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PhillyPretzel  May 12, 2019 • 11:21:20am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

DT described in one word: “Fraud”

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2019 • 11:22:26am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Gee, if only there was some way they could have see this coming.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2019 • 11:22:30am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

What ONE WORD would you use to describe Donald Trump?

“Trump”.

Within a few years, calling someone a trump in a bar will be fighting words.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 12, 2019 • 11:22:52am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Well, there’s a good thing about all that.

That’s $22,000,000 that can’t be used for things like funding conservative candidates for office.

That said, I feel sorry for those donors in one specific way.

They’ve been exploited by Movement Conservative to hate anyone who looks different than they do, comes from a different country, speaks a different language, &c.

They’ve been moulded for years into marks.

Even for a very intelligent and well-informed person, a grift can be difficult to see when it’s presented to you. After decades of propaganda, the folks who contributed to this probably never saw it coming.

Maybe this will shake a few of them loose, or perhaps cause them to withdraw entirely from supporting political causes.

As for the person who exploited them, if the evidence supports it, jail. Wire fraud, theft, whatever they can get him for.

Considering people like Kris Kobach signed on to this as “board members,” perhaps it will end their political careers as well.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2019 • 11:23:09am

re: #7 PhillyPretzel

DT described in one word: “Fraud”

Criminal.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 11:23:32am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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Ignorant

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2019 • 11:23:42am

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹

I wonder, can they sue Gofundme over this?

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Anymouse 🌹  May 12, 2019 • 11:23:55am

re: #7 PhillyPretzel

DT described in one word: “Fraud”

Orange.

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Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2019 • 11:24:28am

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder, can they sue Gofundme over this?

That’s a damn good question. Any of LGF’s resident lawyers/legal eagles around to answer that one?

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 11:24:31am

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder, can they sue Gofundme over this?

I don’t see how they could. TBH I think you gotta be pretty damn stupid if you thought that you could get an appropriation funded through crowdsourcing.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 12, 2019 • 11:24:50am

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder, can they sue Gofundme over this?

No. GoFundMe removed the fundraiser and refunded all money donated to it.

What happened after that was the guy set up his own Website and solicited donations through that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2019 • 11:25:11am

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder, can they sue Gofundme over this?

I think that once you donate, you have no say, but as mentioned, at least GFM took action, they do not want their name tained by association with such grift

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 11:25:38am

re: #15 Dr Lizardo

That’s a damn good question. Any of LGF’s resident lawyers/legal eagles around to answer that one?

I don’t think they could but the question I have is why did GFM allow this to proceed in the first place. I don’t see how this could fall under a fraud statute but I will admit that I’m probably the least informed of LGF’s Legal people. KG, Lawhawk, and others know much more than I do.

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Dr Lizardo  May 12, 2019 • 11:25:59am

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

No. GoFundMe removed the fundraiser and refunded all money donated to it.

What happened after that was the guy set up his own Website and solicited donations through that.

Ah, OK.

Then this fellow could potentially be sued for fraud. Not to mention possible criminal charges if indeed he’s been defrauding people.

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Teddy's Person  May 12, 2019 • 11:28:16am

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

No. GoFundMe removed the fundraiser and refunded all money donated to it.

What happened after that was the guy set up his own Website and solicited donations through that.

I’d forgotten that part of the story. I suspect most of the money came from the usual wingnut welfare sources who saw this as a way to distract from their looting and exploiting.

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Chrysicat  May 12, 2019 • 11:36:23am
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DangerMan  May 12, 2019 • 11:37:35am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Classic. A grifter grifting on top of a grift. It’s grifting all the way down.

Jon Cooper
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BREAKING: A source close to the Florida man who raised over $22 million on GoFundMe in the “We The People Will Build the Wall” campaign just revealed today that the money has been diverted to pay for a ‘million dollar’ yacht and high-flying lifestyle https://

$22million that won’t be going to R candidates

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DangerMan  May 12, 2019 • 11:39:20am

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

No. GoFundMe removed the fundraiser and refunded all money donated to it.

What happened after that was the guy set up his own Website and solicited donations through that.

Ie he scammed them twice!

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2019 • 11:41:51am

I bet the name of the Yacht is MAGA.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 12, 2019 • 11:49:49am
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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 11:52:27am

re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Fat Bastard wore it better.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 12, 2019 • 11:53:56am

re: #9 Decatur Deb

“Trump”.

Within a few years, calling someone a trump in a bar will be fighting words.

Bridge will be a more popular card game since bidding “no trump” is already built in.

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jaunte  May 12, 2019 • 11:55:03am

Whee!

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 12, 2019 • 11:55:23am

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹

It will be written off as a person failing conservatism and not as a failure of conservatism. Which is how they always excuse the moral failures of their movement.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 12, 2019 • 12:06:02pm

I’m off to bed.

For all you mothers out there, people who have mothers, people who have sisters who are mothers, people who know mothers, people who would like to be mothers, people who don’t want to be mothers, and people who are “mothers,” have a Happy Mother’s Day.

💟

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Interesting Times  May 12, 2019 • 12:06:49pm

Read the whole thing (FB post and linked article) - something just may be happening here (and look, you can potentially appeal to a sliver of trump voters WITHOUT endorsing racist crap!)

Facebook Post

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PhillyPretzel  May 12, 2019 • 12:11:40pm

re: #32 Interesting Times

Yay! And they are listening to a woman to boot. I am very happy to hear that. :)

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Interesting Times  May 12, 2019 • 12:13:45pm

re: #32 Interesting Times

Here’s the tweet Kathleen Geier mentioned - click the “image” icon so you can read all of them:

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Anymouse 🌹  May 12, 2019 • 12:16:08pm

re: #33 PhillyPretzel

Yay! And they are listening to a woman to boot. I am very happy to hear that. :)

I don’t know how well Elizabeth Warren’s ideas would play here.

It might be an interesting topic of discussion for me to float around my village.

Now I really am going off to bed. Catch y’all later.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 12:16:21pm

re: #34 Interesting Times

Here’s the tweet Kathleen Geier mentioned - click the “image” icon so you can read all of them:

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Trump has to be petrified by that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2019 • 12:22:17pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t know how well Elizabeth Warren’s ideas would play here.

It might be an interesting topic of discussion for me to float around my village.

Now I really am going off to bed. Catch y’all later.

“Brokeahontas” is starting to stick.

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2019 • 12:24:25pm
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William Lewis  May 12, 2019 • 12:27:05pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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quisling.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 12:27:35pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

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And then they complain about “discourse”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2019 • 12:30:46pm
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Belafon  May 12, 2019 • 12:30:47pm

re: #32 Interesting Times

Read the whole thing (FB post and linked article) - something just may be happening here (and look, you can potentially appeal to a sliver of trump voters WITHOUT endorsing racist crap!)

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I think it would be awesome if an idea person would win. But I have seen far too many people nod in agreement with Democratic ideas and pull the R lever.

Here’s a question, though: Why isn’t she being accused of just appealing to the same voters Bernie and Pete are?

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plansbandc  May 12, 2019 • 12:30:53pm

Trump in one word? Sociopath.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 12:31:52pm

re: #42 Belafon

I think it would be awesome if an idea person would win. But I have seen far too many people nod in agreement with Democratic ideas and pull the R lever.

Here’s a question, though: Why isn’t she being accused of just appealing to the same voters Bernie and Pete are?

From what I’ve seen, she hasn’t made excuses for those who voted for Trump like Bernie and Pete have. I agree with you btw. I hear Republican voters express interest in liberal policy only to return to the GOP when socialism gets screamed.

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Interesting Times  May 12, 2019 • 12:32:04pm

re: #42 Belafon

I think it would be awesome if an idea person would win. But I have seen far too many people nod in agreement with Democratic ideas and pull the R lever.

Here’s a question, though: Why isn’t she being accused of just appealing to the same voters Bernie and Pete are?

Because she also bothers to address issues relevant to POC.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2019 • 12:32:08pm
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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 12:33:07pm

re: #45 Interesting Times

Because she also bothers to address issues relevant to POC.

Right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2019 • 12:33:30pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 12, 2019 • 12:35:06pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Evil.

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Interesting Times  May 12, 2019 • 12:35:09pm

Ha:

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 12:35:47pm

re: #50 Interesting Times

Ha:

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Burn.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 12, 2019 • 12:38:14pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t know how well Elizabeth Warren’s ideas would play here.

It might be an interesting topic of discussion for me to float around my village.

Now I really am going off to bed. Catch y’all later.

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2019 • 12:39:47pm
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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 12:41:17pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

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Get a job? Liberaltard? Wow so original.

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Teukka  May 12, 2019 • 12:48:32pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2019 • 12:50:29pm

Narrator’s Voice: No, Stephanie, he may have watched it, but he didn’t hear it.

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Wah Gwaan?!  May 12, 2019 • 12:58:53pm

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2019 • 12:59:45pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2019 • 1:06:50pm

Gonna be a rough day here in Tokyo. Went to bed at 10:30 and woke up at 3:30 and couldn’t get back to sleep…. Wait, that’s every day in America for me too. Anyway, time for a walk.

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wrenchwench  May 12, 2019 • 1:11:03pm

re: #59 Barefoot Grin

Anyway, time for a walk.

How stupid would it be to ask… barefoot?

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Renaissance_Man  May 12, 2019 • 1:12:02pm

re: #42 Belafon

I think it would be awesome if an idea person would win. But I have seen far too many people nod in agreement with Democratic ideas and pull the R lever.

Here’s a question, though: Why isn’t she being accused of just appealing to the same voters Bernie and Pete are?

Because she is appealing to them by making plans in their interest. Biden and Pete’s appeals are the same appeals the US media makes - ‘it’s not your fault you’re racist, we have a whole bunch of excuses for you’. Arguably, Bernie’s appeals to them are more in line with what Elizabeth Warren does - actual economic arguments against inequality, and you could say that this is the only real strength of Bernie’s arguments. Unlike him, however, she actually has plans to address racial and gender inequalities, rather than handwaving them away as just the same things that white people are interested in.

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jaunte  May 12, 2019 • 1:13:55pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 12, 2019 • 1:15:22pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Narrator’s Voice: No, Stephanie, he may have watched it, but he didn’t hear it.

Over the years, I’ve heard a lot of people repeat the standard Lost Cause claim that the Civil War was really about a tariff rather than about slavery. This was taught as dogma in Texas public schools well into the 80s.
It’s occurred to me that a lot of these people don’t know what a tariff is or how it works. If you ask them for details they never know the name of the specific act, when it was passed, or which provisions were so egregious that they triggered war. Others have the stupid idea that there had never been tariffs in this country until the period right before the war.

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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2019 • 1:20:22pm

re: #60 wrenchwench

How stupid would it be to ask… barefoot?

:)

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sagehen  May 12, 2019 • 1:20:34pm

re: #62 jaunte

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key graffs from that article:

And yet… she still has a job. People still take her predictions seriously.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 1:21:44pm

re: #63 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Over the years, I’ve heard a lot of people repeat the standard Lost Cause claim that the Civil War was really about a tariff rather than about slavery. This was taught as dogma in Texas public schools well into the 80s.
It’s occurred to me that a lot of these people don’t know what a tariff is or how it works. If you ask them for details they never know the name of the specific act, when it was passed, or which provisions were so egregious that they triggered war. Others have the stupid idea that there had never been tariffs in this country until the period right before the war.

Lincoln wasn’t even President when most of the states seceded. There’s been a movement for a long time to dismiss slavery as a reason for secession.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2019 • 1:22:56pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2019 • 1:24:00pm

re: #66 HappyWarrior

Lincoln wasn’t even President when most of the states seceded. There’s been a movement for a long time to dismiss slavery as a reason for secession.

Apu Explains the Civil War’s Cause

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 1:24:33pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So what should they do to make sure they comply with subpoenas Mike? Or are you once again showing yourself to be an excuse maker for this administration since they share your retrograde views?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 12, 2019 • 1:27:36pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

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The RWNJs cannot win a war of insults anyway. If we have to, we can bring in Scottish truck-drivers and football fans to finish them off, but I don’t think it will come to that.

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steve_davis  May 12, 2019 • 1:29:16pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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the really sad part about this is that if the guy had any sense, he would have paid himself an “administrative fee” that consisted of roughly 70% of donations, and then actually used the 30% for some kind of wall build. He still would have grifted millions, but it would quite possibly have been legal.

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BigPapa  May 12, 2019 • 1:34:32pm

Twitter can be weird. Somebody retweeted a 4 year old tweet of mine now it’s getting hits again.

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Patricia Kayden  May 12, 2019 • 1:38:38pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

LOL!! You’ve got to be kidding me. That’s got to be from the Onion or a movie on Comedy Central. Unbelievable.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 1:40:52pm

re: #72 BigPapa

Twitter can be weird. Somebody retweeted a 4 year old tweet of mine now it’s getting hits again.

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That’s a normal response. He did know there are pro marriage equality Jews and Christians? He’s such a douche and that’s why I enjoyed him getting his ass handed to him.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 1:41:29pm

I imagine that’s getting RTed since Ben had constantly denied he’s hateful.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 12, 2019 • 1:47:20pm

re: #73 Patricia Kayden

LOL!! You’ve got to be kidding me. That’s got to be from the Onion or a movie on Comedy Central. Unbelievable.

Totally believable, when you realize who the target was. lol

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retired cynic  May 12, 2019 • 1:53:19pm

re: #62 jaunte

I saw that WaPo editorial, and it made me so furious I didn’t read it. //

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allegro  May 12, 2019 • 1:53:40pm

Happy Mother’s Day Trump-American style

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2019 • 1:54:56pm

re: #78 allegro

Happy Mother’s Day Trump-American style

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another one:

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Patricia Kayden  May 12, 2019 • 1:55:07pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

And it was handed to him by a Conservative too. LOL.

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Patricia Kayden  May 12, 2019 • 1:56:36pm

re: #78 allegro

Happy Mother’s Day Trump-American style

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The date of the story is July 18, 2012 though.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 1:58:23pm

re: #78 allegro

Happy Mother’s Day Trump-American style

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My mistake.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 1:58:57pm

re: #81 Patricia Kayden

The date of the story is July 18, 2012 though.

Oops.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 1:59:40pm

re: #80 Patricia Kayden

And it was handed to him by a Conservative too. LOL.

That was the best part honestly.

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PhillyPretzel  May 12, 2019 • 2:02:33pm

For those who are interested: Frontline will be airing an episode on The Mueller Report this Tuesday at 10 PM. Please check local listings for this program and its times.

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allegro  May 12, 2019 • 2:02:42pm

re: #81 Patricia Kayden

The date of the story is July 18, 2012 though.

I did not realize that. so there’s ghastly precedent for what the current admin has put into overdrive. Not forgivable.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 2:04:25pm

re: #86 allegro

I did not realize that. so there’s ghastly precedent for what the current admin has put into overdrive. Not forgivable.

If I have a disappointment with the Obama administration, it’s immigration related. I do understand that Obama no matter what was going to get shit tho.

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retired cynic  May 12, 2019 • 2:06:50pm

re: #86 allegro

I did not realize that. so there’s ghastly precedent for what the current admin has put into overdrive. Not forgivable.

She was put in jail when she was arrested working in a poultry plant in 2007, and her child was taken away from her then, and adopted by the Missouri couple. The original judge said you have no options, the MO supremes sent it back, and another judge said the same thing.

So it was appalling. I was glad to see that it wasn’t under Obama’s admin, but even the 2012 case was probably all done on the state level.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 2:08:01pm

re: #88 retired cynic

She was put in jail when she was arrested working in a poultry plant in 2007, and her child was taken away from her then, and adopted by the Missouri couple. The original judge said you have no options, the MO supremes sent it back, and another judge said the same thing.

So it was appalling. I was glad to see that it wasn’t under Obama’s admin, but even the 2012 case was probably all done on the state level.

Good to know. Awful story all way around that said.

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Mike Lamb  May 12, 2019 • 2:16:11pm

re: #78 allegro

Happy Mother’s Day Trump-American style

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So do the adopting parents just lie their ass off when the kid gets to be old enough to ask questions?

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Eventual Carrion  May 12, 2019 • 2:16:15pm

re: #3 A dark and stormy covfefe

Is laughing wrong?

It’s mandatory

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teleskiguy  May 12, 2019 • 2:18:13pm

Fucking moron.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 12, 2019 • 2:19:52pm

re: #86 allegro

I did not realize that. so there’s ghastly precedent for what the current admin has put into overdrive. Not forgivable.

Evangelicals have always loved baby-stealing, so the current policy is music to ther ears.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 2:21:45pm

re: #93 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Evangelicals have always loved baby-stealing, so the current policy is music to ther ears.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2019 • 2:22:35pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

Fucking moron.

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how unfortunate that many of those “great patriot farmers” went bankrupt because of his stupid tariffs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2019 • 2:23:43pm

re: #93 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Evangelicals have always loved baby-stealing, so the current policy is music to ther ears.

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those brown babies are particularly sought-after because they make great live-in domestic help…

I wish I could /// that

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Belafon  May 12, 2019 • 2:25:11pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

those brown babies are particularly sought-after because they make great live-in domestic help…

I wish I could /// that

They adopt brown babies to prove that being brown can be cured by Christianity.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 2:26:42pm

re: #97 Belafon

They adopt brown babies to prove that being brown can be cured by Christianity.

I’ve read some very messed up stories about children of color adopted by white Evangelicals.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2019 • 2:27:04pm

re: #97 Belafon

They adopt brown babies to prove that being brown can be cured by Christianity.

which is how they make them into great domestic help

(as if most of those brown babies weren’t already Christians)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 12, 2019 • 2:29:43pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 2:30:23pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

which is how they make them into great domestic help

(as if most of those brown babies weren’t already Christians)

Yeah but they’re Catlicks.// I remember reading a profile on Tim Tebow and while I don’t dislike him, I found his father’s arrogance disgusting. See the Tebows were missionaries in the Philippines and the father claimed he was there because “most people there don’t know the name of Jesus Christ.” Most Flippinos are Catholic or Muslim. They definitely know Christ.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 2:31:58pm

re: #100 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Belafon  May 12, 2019 • 2:33:29pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

which is how they make them into great domestic help

(as if most of those brown babies weren’t already Christians)

The evangelicals I know and grew up around tended to have all of their kids doing the housework, and a lot of times the oldest girl plays mom to the rest of the children. And these were families where all of the children are theirs. No, the stories I have seen, that Happy is talking about, are those where the black children were adopted and really raised to be what the parents thought of as white.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 2:37:18pm

re: #103 Belafon

The evangelicals I know and grew up around tended to have all of their kids doing the housework, and a lot of times the oldest girl plays mom to the rest of the children. And these were families where all of the children are theirs. No, the stories I have seen, that Happy is talking about, are those where the black children were adopted and really raised to be what the parents thought of as white.

Yeah they totally take away the child’s cultural identity. I read some disturbing accounts about how the Evangelical parents would only let them play with other children of color adopted by fellow Evangelicals and have them play some very racially insensitive games. I hate to cast aspersion on adoptive parents. One of my good friends was adopted and most adopted parents are wonderful but Evangelicals who adopt children from poor countries don’t always have the most altruistic motives and I’m sad to say they use it as a get out of racism accusation card. Should also add that my mom’s cousin adopted and while he’s wrong politically imo he didn’t do it to force the three Russian children to adopt his brand either.

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2019 • 2:40:55pm
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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 2:44:16pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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Treasonous hoax? Oh so investigating Russian interference is treason as was your firing of Comey? You’re a pathetic autocrat wannabe who wishes he could be Putin but has none of Putin’s intelligence or cunning because it would be actually having to get your fat orange ass off Twitter or the golf course.

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teleskiguy  May 12, 2019 • 2:45:44pm
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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 2:46:46pm

re: #107 teleskiguy

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At 5:44 PM.

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steve_davis  May 12, 2019 • 2:46:57pm

re: #78 allegro

Happy Mother’s Day Trump-American style

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interesting bit of buried news: the reason a second judge looked at this is because the Missouri Supreme Court called the first judge’s ruling a “travesty of justice.” I’ve got this odd feeling that the Supreme Court assumed the second judge was going to do what judges are supposed to do when the Supreme Court tells them to look at a case again: find whatever legal realist bit of flummery one needs to in order to arrive at what the supreme court wants. Now that this hasn’t happened, I suspect the Missouri Supreme Court is going to look at the second decision and open a can of whoop-ass.

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teleskiguy  May 12, 2019 • 2:49:28pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

At 5:44 PM.

Actually he sent that at 1:11 local time. You’re looking at the time stamp for my tweet.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2019 • 2:50:05pm

What is the Great Patriot Farmers group he keeps prattling on about??

///

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 2:52:53pm

re: #110 teleskiguy

Actually he sent that at 1:11 local time. You’re looking at the time stamp for my tweet.

Oopsie. Still late on their part. I bet he was prodded.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2019 • 2:53:28pm

Do you think Melania is pissed that the orange asshole didn’t say a single damn thing about her on Mother’s Day?

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 2:53:29pm

re: #111 Eclectic Cyborg

What is the Great Patriot Farmers group he keeps prattling on about??

///

The farmers that wear all white and wanted to MAGA with hoods.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 2:53:43pm

re: #113 Eclectic Cyborg

Do you think Melania is pissed that the orange asshole didn’t say a single damn thing about her on Mother’s Day?

She’s probably used to it.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 12, 2019 • 2:55:46pm

re: #111 Eclectic Cyborg

What is the Great Patriot Farmers group he keeps prattling on about??

///

Blazing Saddles… You know, morons.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2019 • 3:02:09pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

She’s probably used to it.

they probably aren’t in the same state, much less building…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2019 • 3:02:54pm

re: #93 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2019 • 3:03:40pm

jeebus

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BlueGrl21  May 12, 2019 • 3:03:49pm

We’ve talked about genealogy here many times….

It has always been said in my dad’s family that we are Ulster Scots. Forever. Well, my dad got his DNA test done….not exactly.

We’re ~10% Scots-Irish

We’re ~ 72% WELSH. Huh? WTF happened there in the family history? That is NOWHERE.

4% Jewish. I’d heard before that was in my ancestry. There is more from my mother. Diaspora.

The rest is Viking berserkers. Like everyone from that region.

I am shocked. Not in a bad way at all, we just had no idea. But in the most interesting twist of all, I was unintentionally named after two Welsh goddesses, mother and daughter. So, full circle.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 3:04:30pm

re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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So I’m assuming Glenn Greenwald is pissed about this.//

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 3:07:25pm

re: #120 BlueGrl21

We’ve talked about genealogy here many times….

It has always been said in my dad’s family that we are Ulster Scots. Forever. Well, my dad got his DNA test done….not exactly.

We’re ~10% Scots-Irish

We’re ~ 72% WELSH. Huh? WTF happened there in the family history? That is NOWHERE.

4% Jewish. I’d heard before that was in my ancestry. There is more from my mother. Diaspora.

The rest is Viking berserkers. Like everyone from that region.

I am shocked. Not in a bad way at all, we just had no idea. But in the most interesting twist of all, I was unintentionally named after two Welsh goddesses, mother and daughter. So, full circle.

Very interesting. I’m plurality Eastern European with good chunks of Irish and German with tiny amounts of UK, Sweden, & Baltic.

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Teukka  May 12, 2019 • 3:09:27pm

re: #120 BlueGrl21

We’ve talked about genealogy here many times….

It has always been said in my dad’s family that we are Ulster Scots. Forever. Well, my dad got his DNA test done….not exactly.

We’re ~10% Scots-Irish

We’re ~ 72% WELSH. Huh? WTF happened there in the family history? That is NOWHERE.

4% Jewish. I’d heard before that was in my ancestry. There is more from my mother. Diaspora.

The rest is Viking berserkers. Like everyone from that region.

I am shocked. Not in a bad way at all, we just had no idea. But in the most interesting twist of all, I was unintentionally named after two Welsh goddesses, mother and daughter. So, full circle.

re: #122 HappyWarrior

Very interesting. I’m plurality Eastern European with good chunks of Irish and German with tiny amounts of UK, Sweden, & Baltic.

I’m 92.2% Finn, 4.1% Baltic, 3.7% Scandinavian.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2019 • 3:10:51pm
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Eventual Carrion  May 12, 2019 • 3:13:54pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

those brown babies are particularly sought-after because they make great live-in domestic help…

I wish I could /// that

Wish I could downding it for being preposterous.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 12, 2019 • 3:14:16pm

re: #113 Eclectic Cyborg

Do you think Melania is pissed that the orange asshole didn’t say a single damn thing about her on Mother’s Day?

No. People keep implying that melanoma is a normal human, too. I get nothing that suggests she is. Articles about her attitudes towards people and this picture sums it up. She’s a bitch with an economic deal (not a marriage) with the orange shit-goblin.

Holy crap, this is terrifying.
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BlueGrl21  May 12, 2019 • 3:16:59pm

re: #123 Teukka

I’m 92.2% Finn, 4.1% Baltic, 3.7% Scandinavian.

What fascinated me is the Welsh was absolutely nowhere in family history. Turns out my grandmother was Welsh. She never told us. But there are a whole lot of secrets in her family. Her mother died in a mental institution and bipolar is everywhere in their history. My great-grandfather was a Theosophist. Her artist brother had 3 families scattered across the world who did not know about each other. Mental illness + money adds a certain excitement to a family.

Fascinating, Jim.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 12, 2019 • 3:23:04pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 12, 2019 • 3:24:31pm

re: #123 Teukka

I’m 92.2% Finn, 4.1% Baltic, 3.7% Scandinavian.

48.8% Brit/Irish, 25.9% French/German, 2.4% scandahoovian, 18.4% “broadly European”; I have a whopping 0.2% Congolese and 0.1% Native American.

In the T2b maternal haplogroup; I.e, Viking marauder, duh, Northern European. R-S8172 Paternal haplogroup, so Irish savages. 268 Neanderthal variants

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 12, 2019 • 3:27:15pm

re: #127 BlueGrl21

Welsh are the original natives to the British isles before the Romans kicked them out and then the Saxons. No one admits to being Welsh.

(1/2)? /

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2019 • 3:27:55pm

I like the music, so I’ve decided I’m Irish. I can be anything I want to be by invoking the Bastard’s Privilege, and I was a bastard long before it was fashionable.

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allegro  May 12, 2019 • 3:32:27pm

re: #126 Colère Tueur de Lapin

No. People keep implying that melanoma is a normal human, too. I get nothing that suggests she is. Articles about her attitudes towards people and this picture sums it up. She’s a bitch with an economic deal (not a marriage) with the orange shit-goblin.

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TBH she’d probably prefer to hear “Happy Mother’s Day” from Baron’s biological father anyway.

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wrenchwench  May 12, 2019 • 3:33:45pm

re: #131 Decatur Deb

I like the music, so I’ve decided I’m Irish. I can be anything I want to be by invoking the Bastard’s Privilege, and I was a bastard long before it was fashionable.

I like horses, so I decided I’m Mongolian. This was a long time ago. I haven’t ridden a horse in about 45 years. I may have become less Mongolian.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 3:35:16pm

My biggest shock research wise was discovering my Dad’s mom who we had long thought to be the granddaughter of four Irish immigrants had Alsacian born second great grandparents and only one grandparent born in Ireland. Her heritage was still 7/8’s Irish tho with roots deep in the Gaeltecht. Her mother’s maiden name is that of Mayor Pete’s favorite Irish writers- Joyce.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2019 • 3:35:21pm

re: #133 wrenchwench

I like horses, so I decided I’m Mongolian. This was a long time ago. I haven’t ridden a horse in about 45 years. I may have become less Mongolian.

Ah, but that horse thing can make you Irish, too. The goddess Epona ruled there, and the sweepstakes is no accident.

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PhillyPretzel  May 12, 2019 • 3:37:27pm

re: #133 wrenchwench

PBS is airing a special on horses. The name of the show is Equus. On the local PBS station WHYY it will be on Wednesday at 8PM. Your local station may have a different day and time.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 3:40:17pm

re: #135 Decatur Deb

Ah, but that horse thing can make you Irish, too. The goddess Epona ruled there, and the sweepstakes is no accident.

Could be German too. Both my Dads parents had people involved with horses. One of his grandfather’s was a blacksmith and one of hers was a hostler. And my mom’s mom’s maiden name is blacksmith in Slovak I believe.

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Patricia Kayden  May 12, 2019 • 3:43:02pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 12, 2019 • 3:45:08pm

re: #138 Patricia Kayden

Often to “succeed” all one has to do is show up.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 3:45:08pm

re: #138 Patricia Kayden

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This gets better. Apparently his own website used a clip of Neill criticizing people defending Maduro so he kind of had an idea who Neill was before he went on. I really really hope that this is the beginning of a long and painful road to irrelevancy for Ben. It’s bad enough that he’s become this right wing it boywonder but if he could become more well known as the joke he really is, that would be great.

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Interesting Times  May 12, 2019 • 3:47:32pm

Troll level: grand master

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Patricia Kayden  May 12, 2019 • 3:49:29pm

Cool. I never knew this.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 12, 2019 • 3:49:30pm

re: #113 Eclectic Cyborg

Do you think Melania is pissed that the orange asshole didn’t say a single damn thing about her on Mother’s Day?

Why should he? She’s not his mother.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2019 • 3:49:46pm

Great horsey Celtic-ish folk song.

Stan Rogers - Witch of the Westmoreland

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 3:50:18pm

re: #142 Patricia Kayden

Cool. I never knew this.

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I had heard about that. Not surprised.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 3:51:05pm

re: #143 The Vicious Babushka

Why should he? She’s not his mother.

He didn’t say anything about her either. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him talk about her in his time running for and being President.

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allegro  May 12, 2019 • 3:51:12pm

LOL

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Belafon  May 12, 2019 • 3:53:34pm

re: #147 allegro

LOL

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Maybe it’s about all 3 of the whites that asked Native Americans where the best place for them to settle would be.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 3:53:53pm

re: #147 allegro

LOL

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It will be a good read but neglected? Come on NPR.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2019 • 3:53:55pm

re: #135 Decatur Deb

Ah, but that horse thing can make you Irish, too. The goddess Epona ruled there, and the sweepstakes is no accident.

don’t forget the Spanish conquistadors who brought the horses that were successfully co-opted by the Native Americans…and she lives in that general area…

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 3:56:41pm

I’ll probably read it since McCullough is a great historian. Probably one of our best ones but I wish he went with something else. I feel like I know the Frontier story pretty well. TBH I’d like to read more about the time period and cities between the end of the Civil War and the rise of Teddy Roosevelt. That’s right around the time my Dad’s grandparents were coming of age.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2019 • 4:02:36pm

re: #148 Belafon

Maybe it’s about all 3 of the whites that asked Native Americans where the best place for them to settle would be.

and they said: back where you came from.

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wrenchwench  May 12, 2019 • 4:03:56pm

re: #135 Decatur Deb

Ah, but that horse thing can make you Irish, too. The goddess Epona ruled there, and the sweepstakes is no accident.

Mongolians ride them bareback. I rode them bareback. Case closed.

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ckkatz  May 12, 2019 • 4:05:27pm

re: #148 Belafon

Maybe it’s about all 3 of the whites that asked Native Americans where the best place for them to settle would be.

It may be apocryphal, but, one of them might have been John O. Meusebach and a group of German settlers at the Adelsverein land grant near Fredericksburg, Texas in the late 1840’s.

From what I understand, they reportedly asked permission from the local Comanches to settle there. It was granted, and supposedly, that branch of the Comanche Nation generally left them alone after that.

But Texans probably know more about this story, than a Virginian. :)

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William Lewis  May 12, 2019 • 4:06:20pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pfft. You’re being shunned for being Liberty U scum as you give Christians a bad name.

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ckkatz  May 12, 2019 • 4:07:32pm

re: #144 Decatur Deb

I always liked that song.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2019 • 4:07:54pm

re: #153 wrenchwench

Mongolians ride them bareback. I rode them bareback. Case closed.

Now, if you were an eagle huntress there’d be no speculatin’.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 4:08:12pm

re: #154 ckkatz

It may be apocryphal, but, one of them might have been John O. Meusebach and a group of German settlers at the Adelsverein land grant near Fredericksburg, Texas in the late 1840’s.

From what I understand, they reportedly asked permission from the local Comanches to settle there. It was granted, and supposedly, that branch of the Comanche Nation generally left them alone after that.

But Texans probably know more about this story, than a Virginian. :)

The Germans are interesting. Carl Schurz, who is also known as the originator of the quote “My country right or wrong, and if wrong to be corrected” was a huge advocate for Native Americans.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 12, 2019 • 4:08:57pm

re: #155 William Lewis

Pfft. You’re being shunned for being Liberty U scum as you give Christians a bad name.

My pastor was literally calling out the Christians that scream at gay people and Muslims about “YOU’RE GOING TO HELL” from the pulpit this morning, saying, “They are offensive. It’s frankly annoying, it makes it so much harder to talk about Jesus.”

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wrenchwench  May 12, 2019 • 4:09:03pm

re: #157 Decatur Deb

Now, if you were an eagle huntress there’d be no speculatin’.

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I always wanted to be….

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2019 • 4:11:28pm

re: #156 ckkatz

I always liked that song.

Really strong imagery, there. Bit of the Wandering Aengus.

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William Lewis  May 12, 2019 • 4:13:04pm

re: #159 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s why I talk about actions being the only real evangelism. That and “Did I fucking stutter?” ;)

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 12, 2019 • 4:13:26pm

re: #131 Decatur Deb

I like the music, so I’ve decided I’m Irish. I can be anything I want to be by invoking the Bastard’s Privilege, and I was a bastard long before it was fashionable.

I’m Shipping Up To Boston - Dropkick Murphys

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Belafon  May 12, 2019 • 4:13:56pm

re: #154 ckkatz

It may be apocryphal, but, one of them might have been John O. Meusebach and a group of German settlers at the Adelsverein land grant near Fredericksburg, Texas in the late 1840’s.

From what I understand, they reportedly asked permission from the local Comanches to settle there. It was granted, and supposedly, that branch of the Comanche Nation generally left them alone after that.

But Texans probably know more about this story, than a Virginian. :)

They rarely brought up German settlers in Texas history because they were generally anti-slavery.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 4:14:06pm

re: #159 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My pastor was literally calling out the Christians that scream at gay people and Muslims about “YOU’RE GOING TO HELL” from the pulpit this morning, saying, “They are offensive. It’s frankly annoying, it makes it so much harder to talk about Jesus.”

I just don’t know why they think this is helpful. You’re not going to get me interested in your faith if you’re damning my friends. You’ll get me interested by having something compelling. I don’t know if there’s a God or not and honestly I don’t judge people if they do. I do not think believing in God makes you a better person but your actions define that. There are virtuous atheists and there are devout Christians who are awful people.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 12, 2019 • 4:14:32pm

I can’t believe nobody has ever thought of this before. Oh wait…

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 4:14:58pm

re: #162 William Lewis

That’s why I talk about actions being the only real evangelism. That and “Did I fucking stutter?” ;)

Absolutely and it’s why even though I don’t know if I believe in God and I know you do, I know our basic core philosophy is the same.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 12, 2019 • 4:15:56pm

re: #15 Dr Lizardo

That’s a damn good question. Any of LGF’s resident lawyers/legal eagles around to answer that one?

The TOS for GoFundMe basically runs & hides behind the same statutes that govern most internet platforms - that they just exist there to allow people to connect. If enough people clamor about some content, they usually take it down, but there is no affirmative duty.

Caveat lector, basically.

The individual donors could probably sue - anyone can sue anyone at any time, for anything - but they’d have to form a class and show damages. “Relied upon to detriment” is a possible cause of action, but it’d be hard to make that one stand up to more than a stiff breeze.

Best case: a bunch of donors band together to sue. Raise a big stink. Tie a skunk around this dipshit’s neck. Make him rack up a shit-ton of legal bills during the demurrer and Order to Show Cause stages of litigation. Maybe make him defend an injunction of some sort. Start bleeding him dry during the discovery phase.

Which is usually when the Federal Judges step in and say “Settle this, or I’ll start making decisions that neither of you likes.” If he’s insured, the insurance company usually starts putting the screws on to settle. Otherwise, you just keep upping the ante until he kicks loose with some coinage.

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ckkatz  May 12, 2019 • 4:22:01pm

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Really strong imagery, there. Bit of the Wandering Aengus.

I had to look up your reference. Fascinating! And the poem has quite a resonance.

Back in the 1970’s and 1980’s I used to read Analog Magazine. There were two stories in it that still stick in my mind. Sadly I no longer have the names or authors of either.

The first story was of a man who had been marooned on a previously unexplored planet. During the story he slowly makes contact with the inhabitants of the planet and starts to learn about, appreciate, and assimilate into their sophisticated and subtle culture.

At which point the rescuers barge/blunder onto the scene and rescue/kidnap him back to his world. Needless to say, he desperately wants to return to that world, but never will be able to.

I see now it followed the Yeats poem’s storyline. Thank you!

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2019 • 4:22:38pm

re: #163 Eclectic Cyborg

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Video

Trying to imagine the Murphys opening for one of Trump’s rallies:

punknews.org

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 4:26:01pm

re: #170 Decatur Deb

Trying to imagine the Murphys opening for one of Trump’s rallies:

punknews.org

Yeah they’re pretty staunchly liberal. Very pro union. So I can forgive them for being Red Sox and Patriots fans. That said, even though I’ve seen them live, my favorite Irish punk bands are the Pogues and Flogging Molly.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 12, 2019 • 4:27:19pm

re: #171 HappyWarrior

Yeah they’re pretty staunchly liberal. Very pro union. So I can forgive them for being Red Sox and Patriots fans. That said, even though I’ve seen them live, my favorite Irish punk bands are the Pogues and Flogging Molly.

You’re a better person than I am. In my reality, there’s no coming back from that.

/half

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allegro  May 12, 2019 • 4:27:53pm

Maybe there are some honest Trumpers after all

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 12, 2019 • 4:28:17pm

re: #166 The Vicious Babushka

Since I have done a bit (quite a bit) family history research… and that includes of those who moved west from the original 13 colonies… one of the wonderful things to discover is that many communities have public libraries full of local stories in newspapers and misc. publications.

Oh… and family history libraries are full of books written about, get this, the settlers who moved west.

Now, if the NPR tweet-writer is thinking there are not so many critical-historical review of these publications and artefacts, then perhaps that may be true.

While there are quite a few hagiographies (and genealogy is often bent in that direction) that need to be disassembled, still, there are libraries full of American history about the settling of the North American continent.

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2019 • 4:29:07pm
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ckkatz  May 12, 2019 • 4:29:28pm

re: #164 Belafon

They rarely brought up German settlers in Texas history because they were generally anti-slavery.

Interesting, did not know that. The German settlers did take quite a beating in Texas during the Civil War.

One side of my family were Germans that settled along the Kansas-Missouri border in the 1840-1870 period.

And yes, the Civil War in the Missouri/Arkansas region was pretty much a brutal ethnic war between the English who moved in from the South and the later arriving German settlers. The only reason the Germans won there, was because there were a lot more Germans than English in the Missouri/Arkansas/Kansas region

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 4:31:44pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

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You know a thing or two about ripping off Americans dontcha Donnie?

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Belafon  May 12, 2019 • 4:31:47pm

re: #176 ckkatz

Interesting, did not know that. The German settlers did take quite a beating in Texas during the Civil War.

One side of my family were Germans that settled along the Kansas-Missouri border in the 1840-1870 period.

And yes, the Civil War in the Missouri/Arkansas region was pretty much a brutal ethnic war between the English who moved in from the South and the later arriving German settlers. The only reason the Germans won there, was because there were a lot more Germans than English in the Missouri/Arkansas/Kansas region

When Texas put up the vote for secession and joining the Confederacy, the German areas were the only ones that voted to stay in the Union. As you can imagine, that didn’t sit to well with those who created the state for slavery.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2019 • 4:32:20pm

re: #147 allegro

LOL

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Somebody wasn’t watching TV in the 50s to early 60s!

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2019 • 4:32:22pm
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wrenchwench  May 12, 2019 • 4:32:45pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

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Trump really really wants to run against Biden.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 12, 2019 • 4:33:26pm
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PhillyPretzel  May 12, 2019 • 4:33:58pm

re: #181 wrenchwench

Go Warren Go. I do not want to give DT anything he wants.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 4:35:25pm

re: #178 Belafon

When Texas put up the vote for secession and joining the Confederacy, the German areas were the only ones that voted to stay in the Union. As you can imagine, that didn’t sit to well with those who created the state for slavery.

The Germans I have read were one group that was pretty anti slavery. Makes me wonder if that was part of my second great grandfather’s motivations for enlisting. I have no idea. He died when my Dad’s grandmother was a girl. We used to have his discharge papers I believe but I think one of my aunts or uncles got them when my Dad’s mom passed away.I’d love to have those but I do have a photo of him and his blacksmith shop on my wall.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 4:35:42pm

re: #182 The Vicious Babushka

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Because he’s guilty as sin.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 4:36:14pm

re: #181 wrenchwench

Trump really really wants to run against Biden.

He does. I do wonder if Biden will make as succesful as a foil as Clinton did. Personally I’m hoping we go somewhere else.

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wrenchwench  May 12, 2019 • 4:38:38pm

re: #183 PhillyPretzel

Go Warren Go. I do not want to give DT anything he wants.

He’d hate running against Warren. Or Harris. Or O’Rourke. Or Castro. Or Inslee (had to look up the spelling).

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PhillyPretzel  May 12, 2019 • 4:39:08pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

Keep in mind that Obama had to tell Biden several times during the transition to be quiet. I think Biden can run circles around DT.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 12, 2019 • 4:40:43pm

re: #184 HappyWarrior

The Germans I have read were one group that was pretty anti slavery. Makes me wonder if that was part of my second great grandfather’s motivations for enlisting. I have no idea. He died when my Dad’s grandmother was a girl. We used to have his discharge papers I believe but I think one of my aunts or uncles got them when my Dad’s mom passed away.I’d love to have those but I do have a photo of him and his blacksmith shop on my wall.

Yeah, the background of the folks fleeing Germany in the mid-1800s is that a lot of them were basically slaves for centuries under the (not-so)Holy Roman Empire.

They’d gotten fucked over by generations of land-owning shitheels, and they weren’t coming to a new country that promised freedom, only to see that cycle repeating itself.

Also, they hated the snotty, sneering, arrogant English. Deep aversion to “peacocking” in the Germans.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 12, 2019 • 4:42:08pm

re: #176 ckkatz

Interesting, did not know that. The German settlers did take quite a beating in Texas during the Civil War.

My dad has an old Sharps rifle up on the wall, passed down through the generations, from one of our progenitors in the Iron Brigade.

Fuck the confederate traitors.

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BadgerB  May 12, 2019 • 4:42:50pm

re: #144 Decatur Deb
Pretty much anything of Stan Roger’s is great.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 4:48:26pm

re: #189 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Yeah, the background of the folks fleeing Germany in the mid-1800s is that a lot of them were basically slaves for centuries under the (not-so)Holy Roman Empire.

They’d gotten fucked over by generations of land-owning shitheels, and they weren’t coming to a new country that promised freedom, only to see that cycle repeating itself.

Also, they hated the snotty, sneering, arrogant English. Deep aversion to “peacocking” in the Germans.

My surname is German. My Dad’s grandfather emigrated from Germany as a boy after the establishment of the German emperor. As my Dad as well as his own father were brought up Roman Catholic, I had always thought that we probably left since Otto von Bismark wasn’t too fond of Catholics but now that I’ve discovered the direct line is Lutheran, I don’t know. That said, the Catholicism seems to have come from his grandmother’s mother’s parents who were Catholics from the state of Baden. The Civil War second great grandfather I’m not sure was Catholic or Lutheran, a distant cousin told me there may have been a family schism over religion.

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ckkatz  May 12, 2019 • 4:49:02pm

re: #184 HappyWarrior

The Germans I have read were one group that was pretty anti slavery. Makes me wonder if that was part of my second great grandfather’s motivations for enlisting. I have no idea. He died when my Dad’s grandmother was a girl. We used to have his discharge papers I believe but I think one of my aunts or uncles got them when my Dad’s mom passed away.I’d love to have those but I do have a photo of him and his blacksmith shop on my wall.

If you have not yet done so, go down to the National Archives. They have copies of all of the files associated with veterans. I went down there in the 1970’s and pulled up the documents associated with relatives that served during the Civil War. I seem to remember that they also have national pension records there.

Please note that a lot of WW2 records were lost in a huge fire at a St Louis archive back in the ?1970s?.

Also, I believe that records are released only after a delay of ?50? years.

The pension application records can be quite interesting. I have a book about a Revolutionary War Battle based upon the not only on the contemporaneous records and reports, but also the pension applications

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 12, 2019 • 4:49:13pm
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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 4:51:41pm

re: #193 ckkatz

If you have not yet done so, go down to the National Archives. They have copies of all of the files associated with veterans. I went down there in the 1970’s and pulled up the documents associated with relatives that served during the Civil War. I seem to remember that they also have national pension records there.

Please note that a lot of WW2 records were lost in a huge fire at a St Louis archive back in the ?1970s?.

Also, I believe that records are released only after a delay of ?50? years.

The pension application records can be quite interesting. I have a book about a Revolutionary War Battle based upon the not only on the contemporaneous records and reports, but also the pension applications

Yeah a genealogist based in Ohio was making trips to the NA. He got me my second great grandfather’s pension records. Finally identified the name of his hometown! But yeah I’m still waiting for Korean War records. I really don’t know too much about my own grandfather’s service records and I’m curious about them since I’m named after him and he always told us they thought he would have been officer material had he wanted it but eh was happy with civilian life.

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Targetpractice  May 12, 2019 • 4:54:25pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

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He really does sound like a jilted ex-boyfriend. “She just left me because I wouldn’t give her any more money! But when she finds out he hasn’t got any, she’ll come crawling back!”

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 4:54:49pm

I’ve since discovered that conscription was mandatory for all men in the Austrian-Hungarian and German empires during this time so it makes me think that my second great grandfather, the other German one who I share my surname with was likely a veteran of one of Otto’s wars of German unification. Not sure. I did later discover through talking to one of my Great Grandfather’s brother’s granddaughters that the brother was in the Pennsylvania National Guard in the lead up to WWI. I always wondered about how my Great Grandfather felt about the World Wars being a German native. I do know he was on the Ration board and I don’t know if he spoke accented English. I assume not since he came over so young.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2019 • 4:58:28pm
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gwangung  May 12, 2019 • 5:01:42pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

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44 attorney generals, huh. Sounds pretty broad based….

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teleskiguy  May 12, 2019 • 5:07:26pm

To the loving moms out there.

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Patricia Kayden  May 12, 2019 • 5:09:09pm

Hope all the mothers at LGF had a great day.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 5:10:29pm

re: #201 Patricia Kayden

Hope all the mothers at LGF had a great day.

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Awesome lady. The “she” from She’ll be coming around the mountain. I’m sure FNC if she were around today would be complaining about her.

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Belafon  May 12, 2019 • 5:11:23pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

He does. I do wonder if Biden will make as succesful as a foil as Clinton did. Personally I’m hoping we go somewhere else.

I don’t know why he thinks that. Biden may goof at times, but, from what we saw with Ryan, he’s got a sharp tongue. I think he’d have Trump sputtering at the end of a debate.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 12, 2019 • 5:11:48pm

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Awesome lady. The “she” from She’ll be coming around the mountain. I’m sure FNC if she were around today would be complaining about her.

I always thought the “She” from “She’ll be coming round the mountain” was a railroad locomotive, not a person.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 5:13:11pm

re: #204 The Vicious Babushka

I always thought the “She” from “She’ll be coming round the mountain” was a railroad locomotive, not a person.

I had heard it referred to Mother Harris but it looks like I’m wrong:
en.wikipedia.org

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 5:13:41pm

re: #203 Belafon

I don’t know why he thinks that. Biden may goof at times, but, from what we saw with Ryan, he’s got a sharp tongue. I think he’d have Trump sputtering at the end of a debate.

He sees how he got away with doing it to Clinton.

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retired cynic  May 12, 2019 • 5:18:49pm

Oh, wow, see the NASA Astronomy picture of the day for today!

apod.nasa.gov

Ash and Lightning above an Icelandic Volcano

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ckkatz  May 12, 2019 • 5:19:02pm

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Really strong imagery, there. Bit of the Wandering Aengus.

I find cultural stories fascinating. They often describe how groups identify themselves and can be quite powerful. The inner-narrative, so to speak.

One recent example I bumped into was a song by Gjallerhorn. I have posted other songs by them on lgf.

This song is in Finnish, which I find quite impenetrable. Using Google Translate rendered a very incoherent translation into English.

Something about digging up a burning caterpillar and burning the whole place down. I wondered whether the song was an allegory about finding a nuclear bomb or digging up a demon ala Lord of the Rings Mines of Moria.

Then I saw a reference that it was based upon the Finnish Kalevala Saga. A poem written in the late 19th Century.

Still working on this. But it’s a journey, not a destination.

By the way, note the very “Scandinavian” didgeridoo. :)

Gjallarhorn - Eldgjald (lyrics)

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The Vicious Babushka  May 12, 2019 • 5:19:47pm

Baby Whipsies is such a sad little fuckwhistle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2019 • 5:21:33pm
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Belafon  May 12, 2019 • 5:24:13pm

re: #209 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whipsies is such a sad little fuckwhistle.

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For father’s day, we should all send to Ben “Happy ‘fathers that paid attention during our birth’ Day.”

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 5:28:44pm

re: #209 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whipsies is such a sad little fuckwhistle.

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Hahahhaa what a lame ass.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 5:29:08pm

re: #211 Belafon

For father’s day, we should all send to Ben “Happy ‘fathers that paid attention during our birth’ Day.”

Now that would actually be “destroying” him.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 12, 2019 • 5:36:31pm

I was delighted to see that the grifter who ran the Build the Wall fund had diverted a million or more to the purchase of a yacht. I am hoping that ALL Republican contributions are similarly employed. Yachts, expensive clothes, trips to Vegas etc. keep honest working people employed. This is a far better use of these funds than fascist propaganda, let alone the insane infrastructure of concentration camps and related facilities.

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teleskiguy  May 12, 2019 • 5:37:53pm

Got the dongle, did a file transfer from one of my backup harddrives to the laptop. And YES! I found my favorite ski documentary! I thought I had lost it in the ether like five years ago! Swift, Silent, Deep: The Story Of The Jackson Hole Air Force.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  May 12, 2019 • 5:38:29pm

Hey, Happy, I was calling lapsed voters in Virginia yesterday, and I thought I’d mention that people who didn’t vote in the last election may have been taken off the voter rolls.

The deadline to fix that is May 20.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 5:39:05pm

re: #216 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Hey, Happy, I was calling lapsed voters in Virginia yesterday, and I thought I’d mention that people who didn’t vote in the last election may have been taken off the voter rolls.

The deadline to fix that is May 20.

Thanks for the heads up.

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2019 • 5:42:24pm

Apparently there’s some kind of huge controversy firing up the left against Alyssa Milano. I guess she’s unwilling to call Joe Biden a war criminal or something; I started looking at a few tweets and my eyes glazed over instantly. Too many grievances, too little time.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2019 • 5:44:38pm

re: #208 ckkatz

I find cultural stories fascinating. They often describe how groups identify themselves and can be quite powerful. The inner-narrative, so to speak.

One recent example I bumped into was a song by Gjallerhorn. I have posted other songs by them on lgf.

This song is in Finnish, which I find quite impenetrable. Using Google Translate rendered a very incoherent translation into English.

Something about digging up a burning caterpillar and burning the whole place down. I wondered whether the song was an allegory about finding a nuclear bomb or digging up a demon ala Lord of the Rings Mines of Moria.

Then I saw a reference that it was based upon the Finnish Kalevala Saga. A poem written in the late 19th Century.

Still working on this. But it’s a journey, not a destination.

By the way, note the very “Scandinavian” didgeridoo. :)

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Video

Very cool. Sounds like a hurdy-gurdy in there, too.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 5:45:27pm

re: #218 Charles Johnson

Apparently there’s some kind of huge controversy firing up the left against Alyssa Milano. I guess she’s unwilling to call Joe Biden a war criminal or something; I started looking at a few tweets and my eyes glazed over instantly. Too many grievances, too little time.

This is the same stupid mentality that got Trump close enough.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 12, 2019 • 5:47:36pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  May 12, 2019 • 5:48:37pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

And to be honest, I don’t feel sorry for the people he ripped off. You really thought crowdfunding would fund a government project? I mean I hope he does get what he deserves in the end but the marks are such idiots.

I know a few people that sent him $ both with the GFM account and to wherever after that was shut down. I had some fun today at their expense. :)))))

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 5:52:52pm

re: #222 GlutenFreeJesus

I know a few people that sent him $ both with the GFM account and to wherever after that was shut down. I had some fun today at their expense. :)))))

You should have. I mean it’s obvious the guy was a scam-artist. It must suck to hate Hispanic immigrants that much tho.

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Rightwingconspirator  May 12, 2019 • 5:54:03pm

Happy Mothers day!

Rest In Peace Mom. Know that your kindnesses, your love, your lessons gentle and hard made me the man I am today. To this very day so long after you left this earth you live in my soul, my heart and my mind. The hardest days are still made easier by you, even in your physical absence. I love you Mother, Thank You For Everything.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 5:57:40pm

So in honor of mother’s day. I posted photos of all the women I directly descend from. One of my German cousins who I’ve met through my research commented on my second great grandmother’s photo(her third great grandmother’s sister) and said she had some information that she would provide to me that her family has that was written about her or something like that. Very exciting. I know for a fact that she and her sister in law (the wife of my second great grandfather’s brother) traveled back to Germany sometime in the early 1900’s before my grandfather was born and I have a letter she wrote another sister. So I’m eager to learn more about her.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 12, 2019 • 5:59:46pm

re: #223 HappyWarrior

One of them gave $1k that he can’t really afford to part with. lol

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Chrysicat  May 12, 2019 • 6:01:10pm
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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 6:01:28pm

re: #226 GlutenFreeJesus

One of them gave $1k that he can’t really afford to part with. lol

I hope he doesn’t have a family that needed it.

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Dave In Austin  May 12, 2019 • 6:02:17pm

Texas……

My brother lives in Boerne, TX. It’s one of those German “Free-Thinker” areas that had conscription issues. As Brother said it’s not unheard of in these parts to see a couple of old boys in rough boots, spurs, and hats to be in an old world conversation over tea on a hot Texas afternoon.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 6:03:47pm

re: #227 Chrysicat

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He would love being worshiped like Mao was.

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William Lewis  May 12, 2019 • 6:05:14pm

re: #218 Charles Johnson

Apparently there’s some kind of huge controversy firing up the left against Alyssa Milano. I guess she’s unwilling to call Joe Biden a war criminal or something; I started looking at a few tweets and my eyes glazed over instantly. Too many grievances, too little time.

WTF? As a leftist I have never understood the American Left’s love of implosion and self destruction. Joe’s a decent old man, not what I want for president but hardly in need of that. I sometimes wonder how we manage to make any progress at all.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 12, 2019 • 6:07:27pm

re: #228 HappyWarrior

He was married to my friend. He was cheating on her. After the divorce, it came out that everything he bragged about having… the house/Harley/boat/pickup etc… She paid for it all. And she sold all but the house too! ;)

His kids are all grown, and want nothing to do with him either. Well before all of this.

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Rightwingconspirator  May 12, 2019 • 6:07:36pm

re: #231 William Lewis

WTF? As a leftist I have never understood the American Left’s love of implosion and self destruction. Joe’s a decent old man, not what I want for president but hardly in need of that. I sometimes wonder how we manage to make any progress at all.

Purity police. That’s the damning thing. Perfect as the enemy of better.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 6:07:42pm

re: #231 William Lewis

WTF? As a leftist I have never understood the American Left’s love of implosion and self destruction. Joe’s a decent old man, not what I want for president but hardly in need of that. I sometimes wonder how we manage to make any progress at all.

Because they’re obsessed with purity. They have no sense of pragmatism. Biden’s actually pretty low on my list of the candidates that are running but I’d gladly take him over Trump. I would hope that after nearly 2 1/2 years of Trump, they’d realize their foolishness.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 6:08:02pm

re: #232 GlutenFreeJesus

He was married to my friend. He was cheating on her. After the divorce, it came out that everything he bragged about having… the house/Harley/boat/pickup etc… She paid for it all. And she sold all but the house too! ;)

Ahhh then I don’t feel bad at all.

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HappyWarrior  May 12, 2019 • 6:09:34pm

re: #233 Rightwingconspirator

Purity police. That’s the damning thing. Perfect as the enemy of better.

It’s frustrating. I get not wanting Biden to be the nominee. I think we can do better but come the hell on.

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sagehen  May 12, 2019 • 6:54:47pm

re: #130 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Welsh are the original natives to the British isles before the Romans kicked them out and then the Saxons. No one admits to being Welsh.

(1/2)? /

not “no one”…

Tom Jones It’s Not Unusual 1965

And Princess Kate is Welsh.

The pub I used to hang out at on Santa Monica Pier (the Crown & Anchor) was owned by Welsh people, and lots of the regulars were Welsh. When Tom Jones played in LA, they took a whole busload to the show and they had a big Welsh flag…

(our arch-rivals in the darts league, the King’s Head, was full of English people. I don’t understand a word of Welsh, but the tone of voice the C&A crowd used when cursing them made their animus clear).


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