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austin_blue  Aug 14, 2019 • 11:16:01pm

I keep thinking about penniless immigrants facing a wealth test, like, for instance, Andrew Carnegie.

Hundreds of free libraries across small towns all over America, not happening, because his family was thrown off their land in Scotland, and they were poor as church mice when they came here. And turned away.

Oh, wait, he was white.

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Anymouse šŸŒ¹šŸŽƒ  Aug 14, 2019 • 11:20:28pm

re: #1 austin_blue

I keep thinking about penniless immigrants facing a wealth test, like, for instance, Andrew Carnegie.

Hundreds of free libraries across small towns all over America, not happening, because his family was thrown off their land in Scotland, and they were poor as church mice when they came here. And turned away.

Oh, wait, he was white.

We have a Carnegie Library in Alliance. Perhaps I should suggest that to people around here if they bring up this ā€œpublic chargeā€ nonsense.

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Anymouse šŸŒ¹šŸŽƒ  Aug 14, 2019 • 11:21:46pm

Hung last on the previous thread:

Tropical Storm Krosa is about to strike the southern end of the main island of Japan.

It has 55kt winds with gusts to 70kts.

After it crosses the island it is expected to turn between the Japanese and Chinese coasts, moving toward Sakhalin Island and remaining a tropical storm.

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No other tropical storms are being tracked anywhere on Earth (very quiet tropical storm season).

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Dread Pirate  Aug 14, 2019 • 11:22:57pm
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austin_blue  Aug 14, 2019 • 11:24:35pm

Sorry for the drive-by, all, kismet.

Sweet as you can have dreams!

My nest egg took a $30,000 hit today.

MAGA! Winning!

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Anymouse šŸŒ¹šŸŽƒ  Aug 14, 2019 • 11:33:24pm

Stuff it, FOX.

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Anymouse šŸŒ¹šŸŽƒ  Aug 14, 2019 • 11:58:43pm

Iā€™m off to bed. I hope those who took a beating on the NYSE see some recovery tomorrow.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:11:11am

re: #6 Anymouse šŸŒ¹šŸŽƒ

Kamala Harris slammed for ā€˜politicizingā€™ Philadelphia standoff

Too early to talk about that shooting unless it is to deny that availability of guns had anything to do with it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:18:10am

re: #7 Anymouse šŸŒ¹šŸŽƒ

Iā€™m off to bed. I hope those who took a beating on the NYSE see some recovery tomorrow.

I feel sorry for those affected by the Stock Market decline, but a collapse is one thing that will help usher Trump out the door so we can recover. (I only say this as someone with no investments in the Stock Market)

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:39:53am

re: #9 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I saw a video not long ago - on YouTube - and it was a Chinese economist explaining (quite well, to be honest) Xi Jinpingā€™s economic vision for China going forward.

He had a line that made me chuckle: from memory, it was ā€œXi Jinping is looking ahead, economically speaking, to 2050. Whereas President Trump is looking backwards, to 1950.ā€

I chuckled at that because it was a pretty spot-on observation. Trumpā€™s policies do nothing but advertise his obsolescence and his hopelessly fossilized thinking.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 15, 2019 • 12:55:15am

Someone came up with a UK Daily Mail automatic story generator. It generates a fresh dose of their typical bullshit every time you refresh it.

daily-fail-generator.herokuapp.com

Heh.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:05:39am

re: #10 Dr Lizardo

I saw a video not long ago - on YouTube - and it was a Chinese economist explaining (quite well, to be honest) Xi Jinpingā€™s economic vision for China going forward.

He had a line that made me chuckle: from memory, it was ā€œXi Jinping is looking ahead, economically speaking, to 2050. Whereas President Trump is looking backwards, to 1950.ā€

I chuckled at that because it was a pretty spot-on observation. Trumpā€™s policies do nothing but advertise his obsolescence and his hopelessly fossilized thinking.

our own busines speople do not think far past next quarterā€™s bottom line

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:13:55am

re: #12 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

our own busines speople do not think far past next quarterā€™s bottom line

Good point. Iā€™ve seen it argued that thereā€™s a cultural divide between American thinking and Chinese thinking (indeed, a divide between Western and Asian thought). Basically, Americans are focused on immediate gain with no pain and set short-term goals, whereas China is focused on long-term gains, is willing to tolerate quite a good deal of pain, and tend to set goals with an eye towards the future, even a couple of generations out.

Also, Chinese culture has a very strong emphasis on cultural harmony whereas American culture puts a far greater emphasis on individualism and personal liberty.

China has endured as a civilization for 5,000 years (itā€™s recorded history goes back the Shang Dynasty of ~1600 BC to 1046 BC, and I should emphasize thatā€™s Chinaā€™s accurately recorded history that isnā€™t myth or legend, said myths and legends perhaps being memories of actual persons and events). Itā€™s been up and itā€™s been down.

And it looks to me like Chinaā€™s on the ascendancy again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:26:26am

re: #13 Dr Lizardo

Good point. Iā€™ve seen it argued that thereā€™s a cultural divide between American thinking and Chinese thinking (indeed, a divide between Western and Asian thought). Basically, Americans are focused on immediate gain with no pain and set short-term goals, whereas China is focused on long-term gains, is willing to tolerate quite a good deal of pain, and tend to set goals with an eye towards the future, even a couple of generations out.

Also, Chinese culture has a very strong emphasis on cultural harmony whereas American culture puts a far greater emphasis on individualism and personal liberty.

We call it ā€œpersonal libertyā€ but it we mean corporate freedom. And corporations are nothing but collectives run by their investors and granted special status and protections by the government.

And they are the ones who buy and sell our government leaders.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:28:03am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:33:05am

Corbyn screws up:

Daily Briefing: Corbynā€™s bid to block no-deal Brexit viewed warily

British opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn has urged lawmakers across the spectrum, including rebels in the ruling Conservative Party, to help block a no-deal Brexit by bringing down Boris Johnson and installing him as leader of a caretaker government.

Problem is that the non-Labour folk are, naturally, balking at this:

Lib Dems reject plan to make Jeremy Corbyn PM to block no-deal Brexit as ā€˜nonsenseā€™

But Ms Swinson was quick to dismiss the idea, which would involve a ā€œstrictly time-limitedā€ Labour administration until a general election, saying Mr Corbyn was not the right man for the job.

ā€ Jeremy Corbyn is not the person who is going to be able to build an even temporary majority in the House of Commons for this task - I would expect there are people in his own party and indeed the necessary Conservative backbenchers who would be unwilling to support him,ā€ she said.

ā€œIt is a nonsense.ā€

The UK is suffering from sclerotic political parties.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:35:53am

re: #16 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The UK is suffering from sclerotic political parties.

A fundamental flaw in the system: given a choice between wrecking their own reputation or ruining a nationā€™s economy, what do you think politicians are going to opt for?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:36:10am

re: #16 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The UK is suffering from sclerotic political parties.

Or less charitably, the UK is suffering from a severe case of Cranial-Rectal Inversion Syndrome (CRIS).

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:38:29am

re: #17 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A fundamental flaw in the system: given a choice between wrecking their own reputation or ruining a nationā€™s economy, what do you think politicians are going to opt for?

Add into that equation that thereā€™s a tidy profit to be made from crashing their nationā€™s economy if exploited properly.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:41:45am

Abe wants to rehabilitate the image of his war-criminal grandfatherā€¦ but the new emperor, like his father, has a better grasp of history:

Japanā€™s Emperor And Prime Minister Mark WWII Surrender In Contrasting Annual Rituals

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:41:55am

re: #19 Dr Lizardo

Add into that equation that thereā€™s a tidy profit to be made from crashing their nationā€™s economy if exploited properly.

They have an inbred ruling elite with a pedigree that goes back to 1066ā€¦they never lose.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 15, 2019 • 1:48:54am

China Lake was of course hit hard, being near the epicenter:

Quake damage estimate tops $5B at California Navy base

Earthquakes that struck California last month caused more than $5 billion in damage to Naval Air Weapons Station China Lake, a sprawling desert facility where some of the militaryā€™s most advanced weapons are tested, according to an estimate made public Wednesday.

A survey of nearly 3,600 buildings conducted over 13 days found that repairing or replacing damaged base buildings alone will cost about $2.2 billion, including hangars, repair facilities, offices, a laboratory, 22 ammunition magazines, an air traffic control tower and even a gym and pool, according to an overview presented to potential contractors at an Aug. 1 forum. It was posted Wednesday on the webpage of the Naval Facilities Engineering Command Southwest.

The baseā€™s total repair and replacement cost of $5.2 billion includes buildings as well as furniture, tools, communications and other specialized equipment.

[ā€¦]

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:01:09am

re: #22 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

China Lake was of course hit hard, being near the epicenter:

Quake damage estimate tops $5B at California Navy base

Shame that the money for repairs has already been siphoned off to build The Wall

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ericblair  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:11:56am

re: #16 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Lib Dems reject plan to make Jeremy Corbyn PM to block no-deal Brexit as ā€˜nonsenseā€™

The UK is suffering from sclerotic political parties.

My read is that the LibDems and Greens donā€™t trust Corbyn to do what he says. Heā€™s a Lexiter: he wants to Brexit so that he can execute the original Labour Clause 4 and nationalize as much British industry as possible.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:14:03am

re: #24 ericblair

Itā€™s rather sad, I think. Corbyn like so many old politicians are clinging to past campaign strategies, unable to adapt to the present need.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:14:46am

Corbyn is an example of sunk-cost thinking. Heā€™s still thinking anti-Thatcher, when what the UK needs is a unifier.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 2:58:46am

re: #26 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Corbyn is an example of sunk-cost thinking. Heā€™s still thinking anti-Thatcher, when what the UK needs is a unifier.

Britain is still a Class Society and its political thinking is aligned that way. America is also well on its way to being that.

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ericblair  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:00:12am

re: #26 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Corbyn is an example of sunk-cost thinking. Heā€™s still thinking anti-Thatcher, when what the UK needs is a unifier.

I think heā€™s far more anti-Blair than anti-Thatcher. The Tories are the opposition; itā€™s other Labour members that are the enemy.

I have a theory (which is mine) about why we have manifestly unfit national security threats as US POTUS, UK Labour leader, and now UK fucking PM. All of these started off with rule changes designed to fix something else which then had fatal unintended consequences.

Trump: The GOP wanted to fix the Romney-notRomney back and forth problem from 2012, so compressed the calendar and kept (with an asterisk) winner-take-all primaries. This was supposed to reduce the risk to the front runner. Trouble is, Trump became the frontrunner and all of the other greedy selfish pricks couldnā€™t work together to take him out, because thatā€™s what they are. Voila, Trump.

Corbyn: The Labour leadership in 2014 wanted to democratize the leadership election process and made it much easier for people to join the Labour Party and vote. You could pay 3 pounds and become a voting member. Corbyn was nominated sort of as a sop to inclusiveness, when by normal procedure he shouldnā€™t have been. Then a whole raft of new members signed up, Corbyn ran a Bernie-ish left populist campaign, and now heā€™s boss.

Johnson: The Fixed Term Parliament Act. It used to be that most major votes in Parliament were confidence votes: this meant that if it failed, the PM would/should resign and call new elections. Under the 2011 FTPA, this was reduced to very specifically worded votes and then gave 14 days for somebody to form a new government without elections. Theresa May lost a number of major votes over the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement, yet under the new FTPA that didnā€™t count as confidence. She dragged on with a zombie government that couldnā€™t do anything, then resigned as PM but didnā€™t call elections. So, in the opposite problem to Labour, the Tory leader and therefore instant PM was selected by a small, old, and insular bunch of uber-Tories who picked Johnson because he said Brexit the loudest.

Way to go, everybody.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:07:04am

re: #28 ericblair

Trump: The GOP wanted to fix the Romney-notRomney back and forth problem from 2012, so compressed the calendar and kept (with an asterisk) winner-take-all primaries. This was supposed to reduce the risk to the front runner. Trouble is, Trump became the frontrunner and all of the other greedy selfish pricks couldnā€™t work together to take him out, because thatā€™s what they are. Voila, Trump.

They did not want to alienate Trump voters in the hopes of picking them up after he self-destructed. Except that Trump was campaigning as the anti-politician and complete outsider, which made him immune to gaffes that would have wrecked the campaign or even the career of any other politician.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:19:44am

Here it comes. I have a feeling today is not going to be a good day.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:24:08am

re: #30 MsJ

Here it comes. I have a feeling today is not going to be a good day.

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Welp.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:27:11am

re: #30 MsJ

Here it comes. I have a feeling today is not going to be a good day.

just what we need to distract us from the current batch of scandals

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:32:12am

re: #30 MsJ

Insert Joker [And.Here.We.Go.gif] here.

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ericblair  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:44:00am

re: #29 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They did not want to alienate Trump voters in the hopes of picking them up after he self-destructed. Except that Trump was campaigning as the anti-politician and complete outsider, which made him immune to gaffes that would have wrecked the campaign or even the career of any other politician.

Which is much easier when no one attacks him for it. So the rest of the field all sat back and didnā€™t attack him, figuring that someone else would do it and they would benefit. They could have cooperated, or agreed on one candidate to take the heat, but nope. Gee, who would have thought that purely selfish behavior by everyone would result in catastrophic outcomes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:48:00am

re: #34 ericblair

Which is much easier when no one attacks him for it. So the rest of the field all sat back and didnā€™t attack him, figuring that someone else would do it and they would benefit. They could have cooperated, or agreed on one candidate to take the heat, but nope. Gee, who would have thought that purely selfish behavior by everyone would result in catastrophic outcomes.

Which brings us back to Brexitā€¦

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:48:09am

Bolton (and trumpā€™s) wet dreams of bombing Iran is approaching. trump wants to nuke someone, anyoneā€¦and bolton is on it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:48:38am

re: #36 MsJ

Bolton (and trumpā€™s) wet dreams of bombing Iran is approaching. trump wants to nuke someone, anyoneā€¦and bolton is on it.

The perfect rally-around-the-flag-boys distraction

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:54:26am

I donā€™t think itā€™s gonna work but thatā€™s not any consolation to the Iranian people.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 3:59:57am

That Philadelphia shooter story is absolutely nuts.

Hillā€™s history in the adult criminal justice system began in 2001 when he was 18 and was arrested with a gun that had an altered serial number.

Public records show that he has been arrested about a dozen times since turning 18, and convicted six times on charges that involved illegal possession of guns, drug dealing, and aggravated assault. He has been in and out of prison; the longest sentence handed him came in 2010, when a federal judge gave him a 55-month term.

And, his record would indicate, he does not like to go to prison. In 2008, he was convicted of escaping, fleeing from police, and resisting arrest. Along the way, he beat criminal charges on everything from kidnapping to attempted murder.

ā€¦

More recently, Hill was convicted of perjury in 2013 and sentenced to seven years of probation. He appeared before Common Pleas Court Judge Rayford Means for three different alleged violations of probation ā€” at least two of them related to new cases, which he later beat.

In one of those cases, Philadelphia police arrested Hill in May 2014, after spotting him driving an unregistered scooter. But when officers tried to stop him, he raced down an alleyway against traffic on a one-way street and then onto a sidewalk, sending pedestrians scattering, court records say. Hill crashed the scooter and then fled on foot but was apprehended. He was charged with driving without a license, recklessly endangering another person, and fleeing police, but later was acquitted on all counts.

Philadelphia police arrested Hill again in October 2014 on charges of drug possession and false imprisonment.

According to court filings, his accuser told police she had agreed to sell marijuana for Hill but then later changed her mind. When he summoned her to his house on the 6900 block of Greenway Street in Southwest Philadelphia days later, she says, she overheard Hill and an associate discussing killing her. Fearful for her life, the woman said, she called 911. When officers arrived, she fled as Hill and his associate hid the crack cocaine and marijuana in a tire out back. Investigators discovered 83 grams of marijuana.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:02:15am

re: #38 HappyWarrior

I donā€™t think itā€™s gonna work but thatā€™s not any consolation to the Iranian people.

Totally not going to work. trump has no good will to collect. Heā€™s burned every bit of ā€œpolitical capitolā€ he never really had to start off with. Playing everything to a base of 27% of republicans means that the rest of us will not give him the respect he craves. And at this point, I wouldnā€™t even if he managed to fuck up and accidentally do something right.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:05:02am

re: #40 MsJ

Totally not going to work. trump has no good will to collect. Heā€™s burned every bit of ā€œpolitical capitolā€ he never really had to start off with. Playing everything to a base of 27% of republicans means that the rest of us will not give him the respect he craves. And at this point, I wouldnā€™t even if he managed to fuck up and accidentally do something right.

Right. Man I canā€™t wait for this to end.

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ericblair  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:05:26am

re: #35 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Which brings us back to Brexitā€¦

Oh, yeah. Brexit was always just a stick for politicians to beat other politicians with, until the crazy bigots got help from Russian dark money to actually force it to happen. Since the whole campaign was a bunch of lies, itā€™s impossible to create any sort of Brexit which isnā€™t a pointless charade or a complete disaster, but any Tory who says this is burned at the stake. So now weā€™re down to it, with no coherent plan. Hereā€™s a pretty good twitter thread by a former UK negotiator:

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:08:19am

What a weird ass world we live in. I fully support deporting her! And yeah, itā€™s comedy.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:13:39am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:15:27am

re: #44 MsJ

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Yet Bibi will embrace actual Antisemites.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:31:45am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:38:01am

heā€™s watching tv and retweeting nonsense:

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:40:39am

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

heā€™s watching tv and retweeting nonsense:

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Yet you used the brothers in Boston as rationale to crackdown on Muslims. Stfu.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:46:13am
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lawhawk  Aug 15, 2019 • 4:53:55am

re: #1 austin_blue

Alexander Hamiltonā€¦. Alexander Hamiltonā€¦ thereā€™s a million things he hasnā€™t done. Just you waitā€¦. just you wait.

Add in all the countless other folks who came here to avoid mortal peril (survived a dangerous trip to do it), and often came here with not much more than the clothes on their backs, and yet thrived.

Yeah, itā€™s the racism. Itā€™s always the racism with the right wingers. They just arenā€™t bothering to hide it any longer.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:03:26am
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Ming5000  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:05:39am

re: #50 lawhawk

Alexander Hamiltonā€¦. Alexander Hamiltonā€¦ thereā€™s a million things he hasnā€™t done. Just you waitā€¦. just you wait.

Add in all the countless other folks who came here to avoid mortal peril (survived a dangerous trip to do it), and often came here with not much more than the clothes on their backs, and yet thrived.

Yeah, itā€™s the racism. Itā€™s always the racism with the right wingers. They just arenā€™t bothering to hide it any longer.

Reminds me of this article. Keep the racism in front of everyone.
ā€œHow do you beat Trump in 2020? The same way we beat David Duke in 1991.ā€
washingtonpost.com

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:06:17am

I am missing the problem here. So? Someone help me out.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:06:35am

re: #51 MsJ

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And a lot of people will accept it because they donā€™t believe prisoners have rights.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:08:05am

re: #54 HappyWarrior

And a lot of people will accept it because they donā€™t believe prisoners have rights.

and look at the skin color of 55% of those thugsā€¦

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:09:09am

re: #54 HappyWarrior

And a lot of people will accept it because they donā€™t believe prisoners have rights.

There has to be a balance between something like that and the diametrically opposite of letting that Philadelphia shooter repeatedly get off light or completely.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:09:36am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and look at the skin color of 55% of those thugsā€¦

Kinda in your face, really.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:11:02am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and look at the skin color of 55% of those thugsā€¦

Right.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:12:55am

re: #56 MsJ

There has to be a balance between something like that and the diametrically opposite of letting that Philadelphia shooter repeatedly get off light or completely.

There should be punishment for violent offenders but everyone should get due process. Itā€™s literally in our Constitution.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:15:35am

re: #59 HappyWarrior

There should be punishment for violent offenders but everyone should get due process. Itā€™s literally in our Constitution.

Not everyone gets due process. Thatā€™s the problem.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:20:57am

re: #60 MsJ

Not everyone gets due process. Thatā€™s the problem.

Thatā€™s exactly what I mean. What is encoded in our law and what we actually practice are two separate realities. This is another reason why the Anti-Warren Court backlash hurt us.

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lawhawk  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:25:29am

A very close call:

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:29:31am

re: #53 MsJ

I am missing the problem here. So? Someone help me out.

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The only downside I see is it would have sped up some of the access.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:32:18am

If you think about it, there are a lot of you here that will disagree with her:

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:32:54am
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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:33:36am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:35:14am

re: #65 Belafon

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Good. Bernie needs to lose.

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Ming5000  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:35:30am

re: #65 Belafon

I am not sure what Bernie is expecting from this run, except for ego boosting. He has burned so many bridges I do not see the new President asking him to be on the cabinet. He is also not a good executor, just a talker.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:35:31am

re: #66 Belafon

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Asshole is what I call him.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:36:31am

re: #64 Belafon

If you think about it, there are a lot of you here that will disagree with her:

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If George Wallaceā€™s mother wants to vote Dem, Iā€™ll drive her to the polls.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:36:55am

re: #69 HappyWarrior

Asshole.

Maybe we can make moscowmitch an insult.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:37:11am

re: #68 Ming5000

I am not sure what Bernie is expecting from this run, except for ego boosting. He has burned so many bridges I do not see the new President asking him to be on the cabinet. He is also not a good executor, just a talker.

My brother likes Bernie. Couldnā€™t tell me how Bernie would get shit done with a poor legislative record. His(my brother) heart is in the right place but I think he doesnā€™t understand how the process works.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:39:58am

re: #65 Belafon

ā€œI think Americans have very short attention spans. Wanting the new flavor all the time, you know?ā€

Or maybe we want the flavor that works vs the one that is old and moldy.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:43:11am

re: #63 Belafon

The only downside I see is it would have sped up some of the access.

Slightly disingenuous headline. But itā€™s not like anyone reads the story (or knows what itā€™s aboutā€¦because only headlines matter).

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:44:49am

re: #64 Belafon

If you think about it, there are a lot of you here that will disagree with her:

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Why do you say that? I donā€™t GAF about remorse. I donā€™t care about changing ignorant minds, because they donā€™t change. I just care about them, anyone, everyone voting for any dem, no matter who.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:50:58am

Looking at the raw data in the linkā€¦wowā€¦trump is in trouble. We can only hope that translates to all republicans.

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jeffreyw  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:52:04am

Good morning!

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lawhawk  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:53:23am

Institutional racism. Police departments pushing racist memes and discriminatory views.

Yeah, itā€™s a problem everywhere, not just in places like Missouri.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:54:58am

re: #76 MsJ

Looking at the raw data in the linkā€¦wowā€¦trump is in trouble. We can only hope that translates to all republicans.

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Good. And yeah I think itā€™s possible we could see a second wave.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:56:50am

re: #74 MsJ

Slightly disingenuous headline. But itā€™s not like anyone reads the story (or knows what itā€™s aboutā€¦because only headlines matter).

I read through the article, and I thought the ā€œdealt a blowā€ phrase was a big exaggeration. Itā€™s not like their investigations going to fall apart because of this.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 5:58:27am

re: #80 Belafon

I read through the article, and I thought the ā€œdealt a blowā€ phrase was a big exaggeration. Itā€™s not like their investigations going to fall apart because of this.

Exactly. But few read articles, thatā€™s why headlines are the only things that matter. Headline says A, article says B (directly opposite of headline), REPUBLICANS WIN.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:10:09am
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lawhawk  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:14:13am

re: #83 Decatur Deb

Donā€™t think there is one. I think itā€™s aspirational, not actually something to be acted on.

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b.d.  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:18:12am

re: #84 lawhawk

Donā€™t think there is one. I think itā€™s aspirational, not actually something to be acted on.

Iā€™ll vote for DeBlasio if he does it.

//

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b.d.  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:18:33am

re: #85 b.d.

Iā€™ll vote for DeBlasio if he does it.

//

That should be his campaign theme

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Jay C  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:19:17am

re: #84 lawhawk

Donā€™t think there is one. I think itā€™s aspirational, not actually something to be acted on.

Although the petition is addressed to Mayor De Blasio, IIRC, the renaming of streets in the City is something the City Council has to deal with. But good on them, anywayā€¦.

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FormerDirtDart šŸ•šŸ€  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:21:36am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:24:00am

re: #88 FormerDirtDart šŸ•šŸ€

That bear trapā€™s been sitting there for 70 years. Letā€™s see if we jump on it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:24:59am

re: #88 FormerDirtDart šŸ•šŸ€

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:56:21am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 6:57:25am

re: #91 The Pie Overlord!

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This is really getting scary.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:03:12am
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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:03:34am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:08:12am
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FormerDirtDart šŸ•šŸ€  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:09:10am
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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:12:17am

re: #96 FormerDirtDart šŸ•šŸ€

IMHO, Georgia should never be allowed to have anything in electronic format. After what they did last time, deleting data even after being told not to, fuck em. Let it take 10 hours for results to come in.

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Joe Bacon šŸŒ¹  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:20:25am

Relatives posting the Q shit about Hillary putting sleeping pills in the guards coffee so her hit man could kill Epsteinā€¦

Another one of those days where I want to crawl back into bed and pull the covers over my headā€¦

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:20:30am
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sagehen  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:26:37am

re: #96 FormerDirtDart šŸ•šŸ€

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alternate headlines: STACY SCORES A SCALP!

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:27:08am
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sagehen  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:27:30am

re: #98 Joe Bacon šŸŒ¹

Relatives posting the Q shit about Hillary putting sleeping pills in the guards coffee so her hit man could kill Epsteinā€¦

Another one of those days where I want to crawl back into bed and pull the overs over my headā€¦

Why do you even keep reading your relativesā€™ posts? It canā€™t be good for your blood pressure.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:28:51am

Oh shit.

General Electric shares fell after Madoff whistleblower Harry Markopolos targets the conglomerate in a new report, calling it ā€œa bigger fraud than Enron.ā€

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:30:16am

re: #98 Joe Bacon šŸŒ¹

Relatives posting the Q shit about Hillary putting sleeping pills in the guards coffee so her hit man could kill Epsteinā€¦

Another one of those days where I want to crawl back into bed and pull the overs over my headā€¦

You can remove those people from your FB timeline without unfollowing them. It would help your blood pressure.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:30:56am

what in the utter fuck

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:31:22am

re: #98 Joe Bacon šŸŒ¹

Relatives posting the Q shit about Hillary putting sleeping pills in the guards coffee so her hit man could kill Epsteinā€¦

Another one of those days where I want to crawl back into bed and pull the overs over my headā€¦

So HRC is a Bond villain but couldnā€™t manipulate 70000 votes in the Rust Belt.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:31:56am

re: #104 The Pie Overlord!

You can remove those people from your FB timeline without unfollowing them. It would help your blood pressure.

Thatā€™s what Iā€™ve done too. Highly recommend it.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:32:26am

re: #103 Sufficient unto the dayā€¦

Oh shit.

Ya know, I am not 100% surprised.

Granted, I got this from seeing a show on my tv machine, but I remember during the Too Big To Fail bank crisis that GE was one of the companies (in the film) that couldnā€™t make payroll and Welsh freaking out to Bernanke. Now this is a film and all, but it stuck in my mind.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:32:29am

re: #105 The Pie Overlord!

what in the utter fuck

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Gah.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:34:53am

re: #105 The Pie Overlord!

what in the utter fuck

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b.d.  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:35:54am

re: #105 The Pie Overlord!

what in the utter fuck

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I think smell a Nobel Peace Prize in the making!

//

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:37:17am

I tend to be wary of people having a major scoop twice in their lives, but itā€™s in the news:

cnbc.com

Madoff whistleblower Harry Markopolos released a report on General Electric on Thursday alleging the company is hiding financial problems.

Before the report was made public, GE said, in a statement, ā€œwe have never met, spoken to or had contact with this person. While we canā€™t comment on the detailed content of a report that we havenā€™t seen, the allegations we have heard are entirely false and misleading.ā€

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Decatur Deb  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:37:20am

re: #111 b.d.

I think smell a Nobel Peace Prize in the making!

//

Sitcom Chicom Emmy.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:37:48am

Itā€™s a shame he wonā€™t give up a presidential bid. I like him. Just not as POTUS.

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Joe Bacon šŸŒ¹  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:38:12am

re: #101 MsJ

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ITā€™S THE TWONKY!

imdb.com

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:38:46am

re: #101 MsJ

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Canti is from FLCL is real.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:39:24am

re: #115 Joe Bacon šŸŒ¹

ITā€™S THE TWONKY!

imdb.com

How do you guys know all this stuff? LOL!!

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:40:19am

re: #115 Joe Bacon šŸŒ¹

re: #116 Belafon

The whole thing is 1984ā€¦I canā€™t get that out of my mind.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:41:25am

re: #114 MsJ

Itā€™s a shame he wonā€™t give up a presidential bid. I like him. Just not as POTUS.

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Heā€™ll make a good vp pick. DONā€™T MESS WITH MJ HEGAR! (Playing on the State Farm commercials.)

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:41:46am

Sunday

Monday
Wednesday
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:41:47am

re: #114 MsJ

Itā€™s a shame he wonā€™t give up a presidential bid. I like him. Just not as POTUS.

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That said though, he and Castro are the best voices on this issue. So Iā€™m okay with him staying. Itā€™s not like Cornyn doesnā€™t have an opponent. Maybe Beto can get some position in the new administration. Iā€™d love to see him where Cuccinelli is now.

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b.d.  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:42:03am

re: #114 MsJ

Itā€™s a shame he wonā€™t give up a presidential bid. I like him. Just not as POTUS.

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Looks like the ā€œnot good enoughā€ is the enemy of the good.

Shame, he could challenge Cornyn, not sure anyone else running could, and he doesnā€™t stand a snowballā€™s chance in hell of getting the nomination.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:42:21am

re: #108 MsJ

I canā€™t say Iā€™m surprised either, I think I remember hearing people on CNBC (a subsidiary of GE, mind you), talking about how complicated GEā€™s financials were, and this was back in the EARLY 2000s.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:42:51am

re: #119 Belafon

Heā€™ll make a good vp pick. DONā€™T MESS WITH MJ HEGAR! (Playing on the State Farm commercials.)

VP, Ambassador to Mexico, head of USCIS. Him and Julian Castro are the best advocates for immigrants running.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:43:44am

re: #122 b.d.

Looks like the ā€œnot good enoughā€ is the enemy of the good.

Shame, he could challenge Cornyn, not sure anyone else running could, and he doesnā€™t stand a snowballā€™s chance in hell of getting the nomination.

Hegar is running there and heā€™s raising the issue in a way that the front runners are not.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:43:53am

re: #5 austin_blue

Sorry for the drive-by, all, kismet.

Sweet as you can have dreams!

My nest egg took a $30,000 hit today.

MAGA! Winning!

Our Orange Bankrupt King is going to destroy the economy he inherited from President Obama. Heā€™s going to take us all down with him, unfortunately.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:44:45am

re: #122 b.d.

Sheā€™s running:

(Re)Introduction | MJ For Texas

You might remember her from the doors ad she ran last year.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:45:11am

re: #122 b.d.

Looks like the ā€œnot good enoughā€ is the enemy of the good.

Shame, he could challenge Cornyn, not sure anyone else running could, and he doesnā€™t stand a snowballā€™s chance in hell of getting the nomination.

Alas, I donā€™t know if he has a chance against Cornyn, either. I am sure he doesnā€™t want two losses like that.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:47:03am

re: #98 Joe Bacon šŸŒ¹

Relatives posting the Q shit about Hillary putting sleeping pills in the guards coffee so her hit man could kill Epsteinā€¦

Another one of those days where I want to crawl back into bed and pull the covers over my headā€¦

Ask them why she hasnā€™t offed Trump and other Republicans if sheā€™s so powerful. Also why did Trump protect Epstein? His death happened on Trumpā€™s watch. Trump is responsible for his death and the state of federal prisons; not the Clintons.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:48:28am

Am I a bad person for laughing at this?

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:51:29am

re: #126 Patricia Kayden

Everything Trump Touches Dies Vol II: Nations Are Not Exempt.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:52:57am

re: #105 The Pie Overlord!

I know President Xi very well

I was also familiar with Presidents Viii, iX and X!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:53:31am

re: #120 DangerMan

I did that once as a kid with a monarch caterpillar.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:53:56am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:55:31am

re: #134 MsJ

Even Gibraltar wonā€™t listen to us. lol

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:55:53am

Anyone notice whatā€™s wrong with this whole thing:

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:59:04am

re: #136 GlutenFreeJesus

REAL Shenna Fox is really from the very real Scotland, aye?

Our veterans indeed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 7:59:41am

re: #134 MsJ

JUST IN: Gibraltarā€™s chief minister Fabian Picardo has decided to lift the detention order and allow the Iranian tanker Grace 1 to sail

and what happens if it accidentally collides with a loose sea mine?

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Mescalero09  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:00:59am

re: #101 MsJ

Guy is a genius. CRT (cathode ray tube) glass is hazardous(lead) and in most states it costs $30 plus to recycle them. I had to drive 25 miles one way to pay $35 to have them take my older large TV years back. Even when they have a recycle drive at a designated spot you pay to get rid of them.
Wait until those folks go to throw them out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:02:26am

re: #139 Mescalero09

Guy is a genius. CRT (cathode ray tube) glass is hazardous(lead) and in most states it costs $30 plus to recycle them. I had to drive 25 miles one way to pay $35 to have them take my older large TV years back. Even when they have a recycle drive at a designated spot you pay to get rid of them.
Wait until those folks go to throw them out.

that was my thought as well, in Germany you have to pay to dispose of old TV sets

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:02:59am

re: #137 MsJ

lol and the way they posted it makes it appear sheā€™s the guy playing (badly I might add).

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:04:22am

Rule of law? Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

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Mescalero09  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:04:25am

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Been that way for quite a while. But with Trump EPA maybe you can just chuck them in a river.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:04:36am

re: #141 GlutenFreeJesus

lol and the way they posted it makes it appear sheā€™s the guy playing (badly I might add).

Yeah I noticed it was a guy immediately.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:05:18am

re: #139 Mescalero09

Guy is a genius. CRT (cathode ray tube) glass is hazardous(lead) and in most states it costs $30 plus to recycle them. I had to drive 25 miles one way to pay $35 to have them take my older large TV years back. Even when they have a recycle drive at a designated spot you pay to get rid of them.
Wait until those folks go to throw them out.

The city collected them at no charge.

But yeah, that kinda makes sense. (There were two guys doing this.)

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Mescalero09  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:05:53am

re: #145 MsJ

Ah. Nice of the city.
Guy still made out.

Bob; ā€œHey? Lou? What are we going to do with all these old TV sets? WAITAMINUTEā€¦ā€¦..
I GOT IT!!ā€

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Decatur Deb  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:07:16am

re: #139 Mescalero09

Guy is a genius. CRT (cathode ray tube) glass is hazardous(lead) and in most states it costs $30 plus to recycle them. I had to drive 25 miles one way to pay $35 to have them take my older large TV years back. Even when they have a recycle drive at a designated spot you pay to get rid of them.
Wait until those folks go to throw them out.

If he was a real genius heā€™d declare it performance art and get an NEA grant to cover the gas.

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Mescalero09  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:09:15am

re: #147 Decatur Deb

Then the city would give him his TVā€™s backā€¦

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Decatur Deb  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:10:07am

re: #148 Mescalero09

Then the city would give him his TVā€™s backā€¦

And he sends them around the county schools as enrichment.

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makeitstop  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:16:24am

re: #141 GlutenFreeJesus

lol and the way they posted it makes it appear sheā€™s the guy playing (badly I might add).

I object to the wimpy tone. Itā€™s a damn Strat, you canā€™t make it sound any better than that?

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sagehen  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:18:31am

re: #139 Mescalero09

Guy is a genius. CRT (cathode ray tube) glass is hazardous(lead) and in most states it costs $30 plus to recycle them. I had to drive 25 miles one way to pay $35 to have them take my older large TV years back. Even when they have a recycle drive at a designated spot you pay to get rid of them.
Wait until those folks go to throw them out.

The article said the city is making an exception for these folks; they can drop them off for free.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:21:14am

re: #129 Patricia Kayden

Ask them why she hasnā€™t offed Trump and other Republicans if sheā€™s so powerful. Also why did Trump protect Epstein? His death happened on Trumpā€™s watch. Trump is responsible for his death and the state of federal prisons; not the Clintons.

if a ā€˜criminal mastermindā€™ were that powerful and effective it still doesnt relieve you of the responsibility from being in charge.

unless youā€™re saying the criminal is way more competent than you and your staff are

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Jay C  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:23:38am

re: #152 DangerMan

unless youā€™re saying the criminal is way more competent than you and your staff are

Uhh, DM? This is the Trump Administration weā€™re talking about: the ā€œcompetenceā€ comparison is pretty much a givenā€¦.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:25:51am

re: #153 Jay C

Uhh, DM? This is the Trump Administration weā€™re talking about: the ā€œcompetenceā€ comparison is pretty much a givenā€¦.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:31:25am

LGF is giving me a security certificate error when I attempt to sign in. My browser still me through, but not without a huge POSSIBLY MALICIOUS WEBSITE warning I had to click past.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:32:48am

re: #155 Eclectic Cyborg

ā€¦, but not without a huge POSSIBLY MALICIOUS WEBSITE warning I had to click past.

We TRY to be niceā€¦

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KGxvi  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:44:35am

re: #152 DangerMan

if a ā€˜criminal mastermindā€™ were that powerful and effective it still doesnt relieve you of the responsibility from being in charge.

unless youā€™re saying the criminal is way more competent than you and your staff are

If she were that good a criminal, sheā€™d have figured out how to steal the 2016 electionā€¦

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:45:32am

re: #139 Mescalero09

Guy is a genius. CRT (cathode ray tube) glass is hazardous(lead) and in most states it costs $30 plus to recycle them. I had to drive 25 miles one way to pay $35 to have them take my older large TV years back. Even when they have a recycle drive at a designated spot you pay to get rid of them.
Wait until those folks go to throw them out.

The Police were picking them up. Probably as evidence.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:46:01am

re: #157 KGxvi

If she were that good a criminal, sheā€™d have figured out how to steal the 2016 electionā€¦

Awesome Uncle Vlad stopped her.//

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:46:17am

So the Philadelphia shooter is a black dude with a long criminal history. Get ready for a tirade of racism from the usual suspectsā€¦

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KGxvi  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:47:42am

re: #160 Eclectic Cyborg

So the Philadelphia shooter is a black dude with a long criminal history. Get ready for a tirade of racism from the usual suspectsā€¦

So, then, just another Thursday?

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:48:35am

JFC

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:50:06am

re: #157 KGxvi

If she were that good a criminal, sheā€™d have figured out how to steal the 2016 electionā€¦

Whatever else you can say about Trump, he is very competent about manipulating the mass and social media. He knows that anything incriminating the Clintons is going to develop legs on the Internet and will at some point be picked up by the MSM and treated as if it had some validity.

And that is all a major distraction and a net win for Trump.

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lawhawk  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:50:26am

re: #162 The Pie Overlord!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:52:52am

What if, on January 21, 2025, Donald Trump decided to start serving a third term and nobody stopped him?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:52:53am

re: #162 The Pie Overlord!

JFC

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Uh Lindsay the Garland block was packing the court. And Trump has to get a second term before you can subvert the Constitution. Youā€™re a principle lacking lackey.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:54:17am

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

What if, on January 21, 2025, Donald Trump decided to start serving a third term and nobody stopped him?

Revolution time then and Trump and his immediate family can get the Romanov ending.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:55:07am

I hate to say it though. The way they talk about a third term makes me slightly paranoid a fix is already in.

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makeitstop  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:55:51am

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

What if, on January 21, 2025, Donald Trump decided to start serving a third term and nobody stopped him?

Drag his ass out of the Oval and toss him to the curb.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:56:52am

re: #167 HappyWarrior

Revolution time then and Trump and his immediate family can get the Romanov ending.

I know you are only joking, I just want to see them lose their money and all their political influence. DT will do fine, as will his sons, with books and paid appearancesā€¦but as has ever been the case, anyone associated with them will lose everything.

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KGxvi  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:57:39am

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

What if, on January 21, 2025, Donald Trump decided to start serving a third term and nobody stopped him?

A lot of things would have to happen before then. Youā€™d have to have the GOP agree to nominate him in 2024 at the spry young age of 78. Youā€™d have to have 51 Secretaries of State allow him on the ballot despite being ineligible. Youā€™d have to have the electors vote for him, despite (in many cases) being pledged to vote for someone else. Youā€™d have to have the 2024 winner and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court not administer the oath of office. Youā€™d have to have the Secret Service not toss him out on his ass.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:58:26am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I know you are only joking, I just want to see them lose their money and all their political influence. DT will do fine, as will his sons, with books and paid appearancesā€¦but as has ever been the case, anyone associated with them will lose everything.

If they subvert the rule of law, I absolutely am not completely joking. Every man has his limits. If Trump attempts to subvert it, he and his family deserve to be put on trial for crimes against the country.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 8:59:20am

I probably shouldnā€™t have said Romanov ending. Put him, Ivanka, Jared, & the boys on trial along with Miller and friends.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:00:11am

Iā€™m sorry but heā€™s completely serious about having indefinite power. That should scary everyone.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:03:07am

re: #174 HappyWarrior

Iā€™m sorry but heā€™s completely serious about having indefinite power. That should scary everyone.

Which is why I posed the 2025 question. It seems fucking insane at first, but then, when you starting thinking it overā€¦

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Decatur Deb  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:03:23am

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

What if, on January 21, 2025, Donald Trump decided to start serving a third term and nobody stopped him?

In six years he wonā€™t be able to zip his fly. Sometimes Nature is kind.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:03:48am

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

What if, on January 21, 2025, Donald Trump decided to start serving a third term and nobody stopped him?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:04:18am

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

Which is why I posed the 2025 question. It seems fucking insane at first, but then, when you starting thinking it overā€¦

Yeah itā€™s one ā€œjokeā€ too many for me from someone who is historically unpopular.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:05:31am

I donā€™t want Barron or even necessarily Melania on trial but the boys, Ivanka, & Jared can join him in the docket.

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makeitstop  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:06:21am

re: #171 KGxvi

A lot of things would have to happen before then. Youā€™d have to have the GOP agree to nominate him in 2024 at the spry young age of 78. Youā€™d have to have 51 Secretaries of State allow him on the ballot despite being ineligible. Youā€™d have to have the electors vote for him, despite (in many cases) being pledged to vote for someone else. Youā€™d have to have the 2024 winner and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court not administer the oath of office. Youā€™d have to have the Secret Service not toss him out on his ass.

And you missed the big one - he has to get re-elected.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:06:21am

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

What if, on January 21, 2025, Donald Trump decided to start serving a third term and nobody stopped him?

The Secret Service would handcuff him and take him away unless, of course, he has succeeded in dismantling the USSS in the name of thwarting the Deep State, and replaced it with Prince-selected ā€œpatriot guardsā€ or something.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:06:25am

If he gets another term, 2024 wonā€™t matter.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:08:19am

Well In better news, my sister in law is officially both a citizen and has our family name.

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Jay C  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:08:51am

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

Which is why I posed the 2025 question. It seems fucking insane at first, but then, when you starting thinking it overā€¦

Still is insane.
Not only would Trump have to get re-elected in 2020; but somewhere along the line, the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution would have to be repealed - and repealed in such a way as to apply retroactively to King Orangeanus.
Doesnā€™t strike me as being all that popular of an initiative.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:09:51am

Iā€™m sorry if I came off hyperbolic. Iā€™m just so infuriated at all heā€™s gotten away with.

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retired cynic  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:12:31am

re: #119 Belafon

Heā€™ll make a good vp pick. DONā€™T MESS WITH MJ HEGAR! (Playing on the State Farm commercials.)

Juanita Jean says there is no one in the race against Cornyn currently who has a chance, and she is pushing for Beto to drop out and take on Cornyn.

I have not idea at all, myself, but just sayingā€¦

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Decatur Deb  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:12:42am

re: #184 Jay C

Still is insane.
Not only would Trump have to get re-elected in 2020; but somewhere along the line, the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution would have to be repealed - and repealed in such a way as to apply retroactively to King Orangeanus.
Doesnā€™t strike me as being all that popular of an initiative.

These people are becoming so blatant that any electoral loss is a guaranteed prison sentence for some of them. That means they will try extraordinary shit to keep a hostile (Dem) administration out of power.

(Thatā€™s why I normally hate the idea of going after any departed administration for anything but the most outrageous felonies.)

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:13:06am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Iā€™m sorry if I came off hyperbolic. Iā€™m just so infuriated at all heā€™s gotten away with.

Think about how much Al Capone got away with before he was brought down.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:14:24am

re: #174 HappyWarrior

Iā€™m sorry but heā€™s completely serious about having indefinite power. That should scary everyone.

Thatā€™s not how this will work. Ivanka will run for 2 terms, then Don Jr, then Eric, etc. See ā€” Constitution not technically violated but we will be a banana republic. Of course, we are one now ā€” but it will be a permanent condition.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:14:43am

re: #171 KGxvi

A lot of things would have to happen before then.

He would just have to declare the results invalid and refuse to leave

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:15:20am

re: #188 Belafon

Think about how much Al Capone got away with before he was brought down.

I know but we didnā€™t know Al Capone would go down 90 years ago. Iā€™m confident weā€™ll beat him next year but we need justice too. This cast of characters needs to be far away from power.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:15:41am

re: #189 Hecubaā€™s daughter

Thatā€™s not how this will work. Ivanka will run for 2 terms, then Don Jr, then Eric, etc. See ā€” Constitution not technically violated but we will be a banana republic. Of course, we are one now ā€” but it will be a permanent condition.

Same difference.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:16:02am

re: #189 Hecubaā€™s daughter

Thatā€™s not how this will work. Ivanka will run for 2 terms, then Don Jr, then Eric, etc. See ā€” Constitution not technically violated but we will be a banana republic. Of course, we are one now ā€” but it will be a permanent condition.

Viz. Alabamaā€™s consecutive term-limited governorship: George Wallaceā€”>Lurleen Wallaceā€”>George Wallace.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:18:09am

re: #193 Decatur Deb

Viz. Alabamaā€™s consecutive term-limited governorship: George Wallaceā€”>Lurleen Wallaceā€”>George Wallace.

Yep and Lurleen was just a puppet for George.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:18:41am

re: #193 Decatur Deb

Viz. Alabamaā€™s consecutive term-limited governorship: George Wallaceā€”>Lurleen Wallaceā€”>George Wallace.

Putin-Medvedyev-Putin

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:19:59am

re: #183 HappyWarrior

Well In better news, my sister in law is officially both a citizen and has our family name.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:22:29am

re: #186 retired cynic

Juanita Jean says there is no one in the race against Cornyn currently who has a chance, and she is pushing for Beto to drop out and take on Cornyn.

I have not idea at all, myself, but just sayingā€¦

Nobody knows who could actually beat Cornyn, but I think Beto as VP with someone like Hegar as the senate candidate would bring a lot of people out.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:23:38am

re: #197 Belafon

Nobody knows who could actually beat Cornyn, but I think Beto as VP with someone like Hegar as the senate candidate would bring a lot of people out.

I think itā€™s a great idea.

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sagehen  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:25:57am

re: #171 KGxvi

A lot of things would have to happen before then. Youā€™d have to have the GOP agree to nominate him in 2024 at the spry young age of 78. Youā€™d have to have 51 Secretaries of State allow him on the ballot despite being ineligible. Youā€™d have to have the electors vote for him, despite (in many cases) being pledged to vote for someone else. Youā€™d have to have the 2024 winner and the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court not administer the oath of office. Youā€™d have to have the Secret Service not toss him out on his ass.

All it would take is winning the house, senate and enough state legislatures to jam through a constitutional amendment removing the term limits that they pushed through after FDR.

Of course, if term limits were abolished, Obama could run again.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:26:12am

re: #198 HappyWarrior

I think itā€™s a great idea.

And the GOP would have to spend so much money here theyā€™d start asking if they could pay in rubles.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:27:17am

re: #200 Belafon

And the GOP would have to spend so much money here theyā€™d start asking if they could pay in rubles.

Yep. Governor TCOT would shit himself.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:27:37am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Iā€™m sorry if I came off hyperbolic. Iā€™m just so infuriated at all heā€™s gotten away with.

he won when virtually no one (including his team) thought he would
not that he couldnt, only that he wouldnt
so we are now shy about any kind of ā€œcant happen / never happenā€ discussion

and yes, heā€™s busted a bunch of norms, because heā€™s had help
and thereā€™s been lots of push back
heā€™s nibbled at the edges and at things that we now see are both ambiguous and maybe didnt have so much enforcement teeth
but structurally maybe not so much. while heā€™s delayed things a lot, thereā€™s not a lot of resolution

so weā€™ll see

so im sticking with no, a lot of things cant happen
- he could win a second term - we have to beat him
- he cant lose and not leave (itā€™s a totally different kind of ā€˜canā€™t happenā€™ than him winning in ā€˜16)
- and no, he cant under any circumstances have ā€˜a third termā€™

if a coronary doesnā€™t get him he could lose next year and run again - lay on the grift for four years while waitingā€¦

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Decatur Deb  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:33:01am

re: #199 sagehen

Of course, if term limits were abolished, Obama could run again.

Not according to Chief Justice Kavanaugh and his 7-2 court.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:37:54am

this did not ā€œjust happenā€; as usual the moron is only just now hearing about it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:38:49am

moron

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:38:54am

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

this did not ā€œjust happenā€; as usual the moron is only just now hearing about it.

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Iā€™m glad heā€™s focused on this and not Hong Kong. Idiot should just shut up for once.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:39:38am

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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And you and butrhole Bibi pal with people who make oven jokes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:39:55am

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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He also tweeted that our economy will remain strong even if all others crumble. Fucking idiot.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:43:47am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:45:30am

re: #209 The Pie Overlord!

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This is exactly the solidarity that I like to see happening.

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lawhawk  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:46:12am

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

Itā€™s actually a savvy move to slam all Democrats as anti-Israel. Doesnā€™t matter if heā€™s lying or not - enough people will think itā€™s true and vote for him even as his actions sell out Israel and every other US ally and strategic partner we have to Putin, China, or other rivals.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:48:22am

re: #211 lawhawk

Itā€™s actually a savvy move to slam all Democrats as anti-Israel. Doesnā€™t matter if heā€™s lying or not - enough people will think itā€™s true and vote for him even as his actions sell out Israel and every other US ally and strategic partner we have to Putin, China, or other rivals.

Are there any people who are going to change their vote over this?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:48:53am

Bibi and Trump are the worst things to happen to the Israeli-American relationship. Both are racist clowns who are more into power and demagoguery than improving their nations.

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Citizen K  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:50:02am

re: #211 lawhawk

Itā€™s actually a savvy move to slam all Democrats as anti-Israel. Doesnā€™t matter if heā€™s lying or not - enough people will think itā€™s true and vote for him even as his actions sell out Israel and every other US ally and strategic partner we have to Putin, China, or other rivals.

I mean, itā€™s savvy, but itā€™s also been the GOP strategy for decades. Sadly still effective.

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retired cynic  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:51:00am

re: #202 DangerMan

he won when virtually no one (including his team) thought he would
not that he couldnt, only that he wouldnt
so we are now shy about any kind of ā€œcant happen / never happenā€ discussion ā€¦ snipā€¦

so im sticking with no, a lot of things cant happen
- he could win a second term - we have to beat him
- he cant lose and not leave (itā€™s a totally different kind of ā€˜canā€™t happenā€™ than him winning in ā€˜16)
- and no, he cant under any circumstances have ā€˜a third termā€™

if a coronary doesnā€™t get him he could lose next year and run again - lay on the grift for four years while waitingā€¦

beta.washingtonpost.com ā€” until they donā€™t, Jennifer Rupin, WaPo

And if by next year the economy is going sideways, multiple Democrats are beating Trump handily in the polls, McGahn has spilled the beans and a foreign crisis or two has overwhelmed Trump, leading to a further drop in his approval rating and a spike in the percentage of voters who definitely wonā€™t vote for him, might Sanford or other Republican candidates who scrambled into the ring look like a better bet? Even if the White House might still be lost, Trump wouldnā€™t be around to drag the whole party under.
As I said, this surely is not a prediction. Iā€™m not confident that any of the factors above will pan out. But by the same token, we should be open to the real possibility that the status quo wonā€™t hold indefinitely. Things stay the same ā€” until they donā€™t.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:51:06am

former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-IL), writing in the NYT

ā€œIn Mr. Trump, I see the worst and ugliest iteration of views I expressed for the better part of a decade. To be sure, Iā€™ve had my share of controversy. On more than one occasion, I questioned Mr. Obamaā€™s truthfulness about his religion. At times, I expressed hate for my political opponents. We now see where this can lead. Thereā€™s no place in our politics for personal attacks like that, and I regret making them.ā€

ā€œI didnā€™t vote for Mr. Trump in 2016 because I liked him. I voted for him because he wasnā€™t Hillary Clinton. Once he was elected, I gave him a fair hearing, and tried to give him the benefit of the doubt. But I soon realized that I couldnā€™t support him because of the danger he poses to the country, especially the division he sows at every chance, culminating a few weeks ago in his ugly, racist attack on four minority congresswomen.ā€

ā€œThe fact is, Mr. Trump is a racial arsonist who encourages bigotry and xenophobia to rouse his base and advance his electoral prospects. In this, he inspires imitators.ā€

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:51:31am
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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:52:44am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:54:10am

re: #216 DangerMan

former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-IL), writing in the NYT

Is that Joe Walsh apologizing for the shit he did to Obama? Wow.

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Dread Pirate  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:56:02am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:56:47am

re: #220 Dread Pirate

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Yeah but it was snowing in Australia, just ask Dinesh Dā€™Sousa.

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:56:47am

still relevant

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William Lewis  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:57:08am

re: #216 DangerMan

former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-IL), writing in the NYT

ā€œViews I expressed ā€œ???? An honest Republican actually regrets what he admits he did? Im still asleep arenā€™t I?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:57:11am

re: #222 DangerMan

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still relevant

Absolutely

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:57:51am

re: #223 William Lewis

ā€œViews I expressed ā€œ???? An honest Republican actually regrets what he admits he did? Im still asleep arenā€™t I?

I know. That itā€™s Walsh is a shocker.

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retired cynic  Aug 15, 2019 • 9:58:23am
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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:00:01am

re: #223 William Lewis

ā€œViews I expressed ā€œ???? An honest Republican actually regrets what he admits he did? Im still asleep arenā€™t I?

itā€™s not much and itā€™s not nothing either

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:01:10am

JFC

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:02:22am

According to his golf courseā€™s latest filing with Bedminster Township to justify its ā€œfarmland assessmentā€ tax break, Trump maintains eight goats and farms hay on 113.2 acres. Another 70.6 acres of adjacent woods are also set aside as agricultural, so that a total of 183.8 of the golf resortā€™s 514 acres are taxed at a much lower rate ā€• just over $6 an acre, rather than $462.

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lawhawk  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:02:49am

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:02:49am

re: #227 DangerMan

itā€™s not much and itā€™s not nothing either

Iā€™ve always felt conflicted about people like this. I donā€™t think itā€™s just they think Trump is saying out loud what they were whispering but at the same time, I think they need to own up their culpability for why Trump was viable. Some more than others.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:03:25am

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Just shut the fuck up you illiterate fascist fuck.

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lawhawk  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:05:30am

As of midday today, the DJIA is 25,552.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:06:57am

re: #201 HappyWarrior

Yep. Governor TCOT would shit himself.

I would pay to see that!

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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:06:58am

the guy that attacked the kid for wearing a hat during the national anthemā€¦
now we know what the defense is gonna be:

Brockwayā€™s attorney, claimed last week that his clientā€™s decision-making ability was compromised by a traumatic brain injury that led him to be honorably discharged from the Army. He said President Donald Trumpā€™s rhetoric influenced Brockwayā€™s interaction with the victim.

ā€œHis commander in chief is telling people that if they kneel, they should be fired, or if they burn a flag, they should be punished,ā€ Jasper told the Missoulian. ā€œHe certainly didnā€™t understand it was a crime.ā€

- so he thinkā€™s heā€™s still in the army
- and trump is his superior
- and told him to do this
- and yet he didnt know it was a crime

i thought soldiers dont have to follow unlawful orders

so heā€™s savvy enough to ā€˜figure outā€™ the first three but not the last

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Dread Pirate  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:08:11am
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DangerMan  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:09:02am

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

whoa there fella

youā€™re saying the media has the power to crash the economy?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:09:32am

re: #235 DangerMan

the guy that attacked the kid for wearing a hat during the national anthemā€¦
now we know what the defense is gonna be:

- so he thinkā€™s heā€™s still in the army
- and trump is his superior
- and told him to do this
- and yet he didnt know it was a crime

i thought soldiers dont have to follow unlawful orders

so heā€™s savvy enough to ā€˜figure outā€™ the first three but not the last

Bullshit defense. But either way, then I donā€™t want to see him owning a gun.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:10:11am

re: #216 DangerMan

former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-IL), writing in the NYT

At least he owns up to it. More so than most.

Still #NeverForget that he is directly responsible, as are all his GOP loving, Dem hating candidates, pundits, et fucking al.

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Belafon  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:10:54am

re: #235 DangerMan

Not knowing the law is not a defense. Slamming someone down on the ground who didnā€™t attack you is wrong and you know it, dude.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:11:11am

re: #236 Dread Pirate

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Youā€™re a disgrace. You pal around with real Antissmites and Fundie zealots who want Israel to be raptured but Omar and Tlaib dare criticize you and you freak out. Youā€™re a detriment to peace in the ME with the other sideā€™s zealots.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:12:51am

As a proud American I will never forgive Bibi for how he showed more respect to Glenn Beck than. Barack Obama.

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SteelPH  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:14:53am

re: #242 HappyWarrior

As a proud American I will never forgive Bibi for how he showed more respect to Glenn Beck than. Barack Obama.

That was truly disgraceful.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:16:11am

re: #243 SteelPH

That was truly disgraceful.

It really was given Becks relationship to people like Cleon Skousen and other Christian identity Antisemites.

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KGxvi  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:18:28am

re: #190 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He would just have to declare the results invalid and refuse to leave

We donā€™t need all the pomp and circumstance that goes with Inauguration Day. Just the CJ to administer the oath of office, make sure itā€™s on TVā€¦ once the new president says the words, they have the power to order the Secret Service to evict Trump.

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KGxvi  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:20:36am

re: #199 sagehen

All it would take is winning the house, senate and enough state legislatures to jam through a constitutional amendment removing the term limits that they pushed through after FDR.

Of course, if term limits were abolished, Obama could run again.

You need 3/4 of the states and 2/3 of each House of Congress. Thatā€™s a long haul for a discussion we havenā€™t had in (checks calendar) almost a century.

Iā€™m generally opposed to term limits, so I wouldnā€™t necessarily be opposed to such an amendment (it all depends on the wording).

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:20:37am

re: #240 Belafon

Not knowing the law is not a defense. Slamming someone A CHILD down on the ground who didnā€™t attack you is wrong and you know it, dude.

FIFY

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:24:15am

re: #222 DangerMan

Even removing the racial element gives us:

Calling a Black Democratic POTUS married 25 yrs to 1 wife with 2 children, no mistresses, affairs or scandals, ā€˜the antichristā€™ but a white GOP POTUS married thrice, 5 kids by 3 women, mistresses, affairs & scandals, ā€˜Godā€™s anointed,ā€™ proves your religion is white supremacy blatant partisan bigotry.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:24:51am

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Fake News Media is doing everything they can to crash the economy because they think that will be bad for me and my re-election. The problem they have is that the economy is way too strong and we will soon be winning big on Trade, and everyone knows that, including China!

Economies crash on trade figures, not news reports.

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sagehen  Aug 15, 2019 • 10:48:31am

re: #239 MsJ

At least he owns up to it. More so than most.

Still #NeverForget that he is directly responsible, as are all his GOP loving, Dem hating candidates, pundits, et fucking al.

In 1946/47/48/49 there were a lot of used-to-be-enthusiastic-Nazis looking around at the rubble, having been forced to look at the just-liberated camps, listening to the Nuremberg trials on the radio, saying ā€œOMG WHAT HAVE WE DONE?!?!ā€

Somebody had to be first.

Iā€™m willing to give Joe Walsh a conditional benefit-of-the-doubt. For now.


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