VIDEO: A Surprising Development for Once: Mitt Romney Says He’ll Vote to Convict Trump

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It’s been a long time since a Republican surprised me, but Mitt Romney did it today. Don’t get me wrong, this doesn’t make me a fan. Romney is independently wealthy and his Senate seat is pretty safe, so he doesn’t face the same kind of political pressure from the Trump cult that many GOP senators do.

It won’t affect the outcome. The complicit GOP is still going to acquit their crime boss. And even though it technically means the impeachment process was not “partisan,” I don’t expect the GOP to stop insisting it was.

But still, I didn’t expect him to do the right thing, so I have to say good for Mitt Romney, just this one time.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:08:10pm

I have to admit, I have a *little* more respect for Romney today than I did yesterday.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:10:19pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

I have to admit, I have a *little* more respect for Romney today than I did yesterday.

Same. First ever to vote for the removal of his president in their party. It also really is going to make certain talking points harder to get away with it and we both know Trump is furious.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:10:51pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:12:08pm
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ericblair  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:12:30pm
It won’t affect the outcome. The complicit GOP is still going to acquit their crime boss. And even though it technically means the impeachment process was not “partisan,” I don’t expect the GOP to stop insisting it was.

The main effect will be to make the other gooper senators look like the shitty little weaklings they are.

I don’t think it was some triple-bank political calculation by Romney. I think he honestly believes he swore an oath, and he’s already eaten all the shit from that traitor criminal that he’s going to eat.

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b.d. (Is Rush Dead Yet?)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:12:39pm

And the pack of rabid chihuahuas scamper away from Nancy and towards Mittens.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:13:32pm

I wonder how Romney would’ve voted if he was up for election this year, but he will be remembered for doing the right thing. And I’ll give him credit; if he still harbored any hope of becoming President, he shut the door on any possibility of that permanently today.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:13:37pm

re: #3 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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as i said down below, every single comment, with the swiftness and vehemence highlights and reinforces the fecklessness of the rest of the Republican senators

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:14:11pm

re: #6 b.d. (Is Rush Dead Yet?)

And the pack of rabid chihuahuas scamper away from Nancy and towards Mittens.

That’s the brilliant part. Nancy can go “ Well you see how he acts.” It didn’t even take Trump Jr a hour.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:14:51pm

re: #7 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I wonder how Romney would’ve voted if he was up for election this year, but he will be remembered for doing the right thing. And I’ll give him credit; if he still harbored any hope of becoming President, he shut the door on any possibility of that permanently today.

Yep. Mitt won’t be president nor should he but he did the right thing.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:15:04pm

I’ve been wondering how long the made-in-hell alliance of Mormon and Evangelical conservatives would last, considering that the latter regard Mormons as hell-bound heretics who baptize dead people and refuse to smoke cigars.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:15:41pm

Also give Doug Jones credit; in an election year in Bama, the safe move for him would’ve been voting to acquit.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:16:03pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:16:26pm

re: #11 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’ve been wondering how long the made-in-hell alliance of Mormon and Evangelical conservatives would last, considering that the latter regard Mormons as hell-bound heretics who baptize dead people and refuse to smoke cigars.

Mormons also aren’t as xenophobic about immigrants which is why it was annoying to see candidate Mitt pander to that

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:17:57pm

re: #12 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Also give Doug Jones credit; in an election year in Bama, the safe move for him would’ve been voting to acquit.

Absolutely

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:18:39pm

re: #7 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I wonder how Romney would’ve voted if he was up for election this year, but he will be remembered for doing the right thing. And I’ll give him credit; if he still harbored any hope of becoming President, he shut the door on any possibility of that permanently today.

How will the other Republican Senator from Utah vote?

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:19:10pm
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Dave In Austin  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:19:53pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

I have to admit, I have a *little* more respect for Romney today than I did yesterday.

I figured he’d be the only one if there was one.
No Mormon Fucks to Give anymore and with the full blessing from the Elders and Bishops.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:19:57pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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Don Jr knows this isn’t gonna end well.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:20:17pm
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:21:04pm
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:21:43pm

re: #20 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Furrowed brows.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:22:32pm

yes, it takes a certain amount of courage to buck your party - especially this party and at this time given its cult-like nature. after all you didn’t take an oath to him, did you? or did you?

so yeah mitt gets some props for that.

however

it shouldnt take some extra kind of deep reserve courage worthy of special recognition to do what you promised to do when you took the oath of your office and/or the additional oath to act in judgement of an impeachment.

it’s what you agreed to do
you dont get bonus points for doing what you agreed to do
and if you cant then you damn well dont take the oath. or you quit.

if you end up not doing what you agreed to, even knowing the specific sort of challenges that would be ahead in the execution of your office, that’s just cowardice or corruption

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ericblair  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:23:47pm
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:24:52pm

re: #19 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Don Jr knows this isn’t gonna end well.

wanna bet? (that he knows that)

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:25:39pm

re: #23 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

You can’t always punish those that deserve it. So, instead, you praise those that do the right thing.

Should there be no honors for soldiers since they take an oath to defend the constitution?

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:25:40pm

re: #21 Scottish Dragon

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another uncontrolled LOL

the cats are looking at me

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:25:41pm

re: #25 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

wanna bet? (that he knows that)

Sounds like a fool’s bet to me haha.

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:25:52pm

Calling it now: Trump will reference back to that famous dinner to rant that Romney “begged” him for a job, begged for his endorsement, and has begged him for other things, and so this vote today is just an expression of his bitterness.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:26:04pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

IM NOT TRIGGERED YOUR TRIGGERED!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:27:02pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

Calling it now: Trump will reference back to that famous dinner to rant that Romney “begged” him for a job, begged for his endorsement, and has begged him for other things, and so this vote today is just an expression of his bitterness.

Please sir he said, I would be a great Secretary of State but I said No, MAGA!

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Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:28:34pm

re: #6 b.d. (Is Rush Dead Yet?)

And the pack of rabid chihuahuas scamper away from Nancy and towards Mittens.

upding for “pack of rabid chihuahuas”

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:28:45pm

re: #12 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Also give Doug Jones credit; in an election year in Bama, the safe move for him would’ve been voting to acquit.

Are things so far gone now we give credit for doing the thing he was elected to do?

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:29:24pm

re: #19 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Don Jr knows this isn’t gonna end well.

What isn’t?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:29:31pm

re: #31 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Please sir he said, I would be a great Secretary of State but I said No, MAGA!

I’ve been reading “A Very Stable Genius” so I am enjoying the thought of the massive temper tantrum Trump is throwing right now.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:29:46pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

Calling it now: Trump will reference back to that famous dinner to rant that Romney “begged” him for a job, begged for his endorsement, and has begged him for other things, and so this vote today is just an expression of his bitterness.

I am expecting a twitter rampage lasting at least 12 tweets

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:30:02pm

Someone should go find this tweet from Rubin, I can’t at work, but here’s the text:

Jennifer Rubin @ JRubinBlogger
Between Schiff, Romney, a gay man winning in Iowa and Nancy Pelosi I have the comfort of knowing this country can be great if it chooses

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:30:15pm

re: #3 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I guess Mitt is No True Scotsman now.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:30:28pm
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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:30:56pm
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:31:18pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

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shoulder spasms gonna be all over da place!

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sagehen  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:31:19pm

re: #5 ericblair

The main effect will be to make the other gooper senators look like the shitty little weaklings they are.

I don’t think it was some triple-bank political calculation by Romney. I think he honestly believes he swore an oath, and he’s already eaten all the shit from that traitor criminal that he’s going to eat.

plus… he knows that we remember 8 years ago when he said Russia was our number one geopolitical foe, and a lot of us laughed at him at that time. We’ve had to eat crow on that one.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:31:30pm

re: #23 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

Here’s a good take:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:31:30pm

re: #33 Skip Intro

Are things so far gone now we give credit for doing the thing he was elected to do?

Politicians so often do the politically expedient thing, I think they should get some credit when they do the right thing.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:31:44pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

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Poor Guaido.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:32:29pm

re: #44 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Politicians so often do the politically expedient thing, I think they should get some credit when they do the right thing.

That’s an incredibly low bar in this case, isn’t it?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:32:38pm

re: #42 sagehen

plus… he knows that we remember 8 years ago when he said Russia was our number one geopolitical foe, and a lot of us laughed at him at that time. We’ve had to eat crow on that one.

I’ve been thinking about that. I mean yeah Mitt is an opportunist in many ways but he wasn’t wrong there.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:33:06pm

re: #34 Skip Intro

What isn’t?

The whole grift.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:33:14pm

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:33:16pm

re: #46 Skip Intro

That’s an incredibly low bar in this case, isn’t it?

I thank my kids for doing things I ask of them all the time.

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ericblair  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:33:26pm

re: #40 Belafon

Wow. The Trump administration is withholding nearly a billion dollars for a clean energy program it has unsuccessfully tried to cut, congressional Democrats said Wednesday, raising the specter of (more) improper political interference.
bloomberg.com …

Hi again, Green Party of the United States, happy now?

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:33:26pm

re: #26 Belafon

You can’t always punish those that deserve it. So, instead, you praise those that do the right thing.

Should there be no honors for soldiers since they take an oath to defend the constitution?

i dont want to split this hair too fine because i think we agree

we give awards and medals for good works, exemplary lives, challenges overcome.
not merely because someone never became a criminal
(limbaugh notwithstanding)

and the challenges in soldiering are an entirely different animal than those for sitting in congress

honors certainly for what you do and how you do it.
what you face and how you confront it.

not merely for adhering to your oath.
because i find that a low standard. especially in the case of this senate that cant even manage to do that.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:33:38pm

re: #48 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The whole grift.

I don’t think that’s going away anytime soon.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:33:46pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Heh, Trump’s probably raging at Guaido right now. LOL.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:33:56pm

Anyone mention that Mitt will be the first Senator in American history to vote to remove a President of his own party?

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Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:34:09pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

But Noron Odonnel and the media said his speech was perfect last night, just great showmanship.

//

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Dave In Austin  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:34:13pm
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:34:58pm

re: #28 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Sounds like a fool’s bet to me haha.

YouTube

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:35:26pm

re: #50 Belafon

I thank my kids for doing things I ask of them all the time.

Are your kids US Senators deciding the fate of the most corrupt man ever to be president of the US?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:35:35pm

re: #57 Dave In Austin

Right, but the House only “partisan” because the GOP PNG’d Amash.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:35:37pm

re: #53 Skip Intro

I don’t think that’s going away anytime soon.

I didn’t say it ends today. I said it’s going to eventually. I don’t like Romney and you’re right about low expectations but this is a vote of a member of one party voting for his own party’s president removal.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:35:42pm
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:35:47pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

Calling it now: Trump will reference back to that famous dinner to rant that Romney “begged” him for a job, begged for his endorsement, and has begged him for other things, and so this vote today is just an expression of his bitterness.

and i would say to trump, that may all be true
it’s still an indelible vote to convict

sad

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:35:57pm

re: #46 Skip Intro

That’s an incredibly low bar in this case, isn’t it?

Doug Jones just threw away his senate seat, so I don’t think so.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:36:22pm

re: #62 lawhawk

Glorious.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:36:25pm

re: #52 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

I think we’re on the same side. But it takes courage to buck a bunch of people around you, no matter how much you promised to do the right thing (I just pushed back on a jab a Pelosi, and I’m about the only Democrat in the group). The way to encourage that behavior is to praise those who do it.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:36:32pm

re: #33 Skip Intro

Are things so far gone now we give credit for doing the thing he was elected to do?

a more pithier way of saying what i was rambling about

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BeachDem  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:36:32pm

re: #37 Belafon

Someone should go find this tweet from Rubin, I can’t at work, but here’s the text:

Here you go

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:36:54pm

re: #61 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

And I didn’t say today.

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:37:36pm

While Mitt will be the subject of the most public rage from Cheeto, the guy who can expect to hear the most screaming behind closed doors is Mitch. After all, he was supposed to deliver an “acquittal” vote from the entire caucus (and possible a Dem or two) today. It was supposed to be Donny’s big triumph, that he’d managed to not only defeat the “partisan” attack by the Dems, but do so with entire party united in support of his greatness. Now Mitt’s gone and shattered that dream, which means Mitch has failed his Don yet again.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:37:50pm

re: #49 Skip Intro

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The next Misfits album cover.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:37:53pm

Meanwhile full props to Romney for doing something I never thought I’d see him do. He’s the one sticking his neck way out there, not Doug Jones.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:38:00pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

And then say “HE CRIED LIKE A DOG!!!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:38:07pm

re: #40 Belafon

Wow. The Trump administration is withholding nearly a billion dollars for a clean energy program it has unsuccessfully tried to cut, congressional Democrats said Wednesday, raising the specter of (more) improper political interference.

They just need to announce that they are investigating the Bidens and the money will be released…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:38:09pm

re: #69 Skip Intro

And I didn’t say today.

Fair enough.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:38:10pm

re: #38 Blind Frog Belly White

I guess Mitt is No True Scotsman now.

well who of us ever is?

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:39:06pm

re: #64 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Doug Jones just threw away his senate seat, so I don’t think so.

I think the odds of him being re-elected were already pretty low. At least this way he goes out with his reputation and dignity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:39:11pm
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:39:13pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

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“whitehouse was completely caught off guard”

romney pulled a mccain

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:39:30pm

re: #59 Skip Intro

Are your kids US Senators deciding the fate of the most corrupt man ever to be president of the US?

Should the reponse to the one Republican doing the right thing be “Yay, I wish others were like you” or “Well, you did your job. What do you expect from me?”

My whole push back on this is that the way to get people to do the right thing is to encourage them to do the right thing, and rewards work far better than “well, at least you weren’t crappy.”

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:40:24pm

re: #75 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Honestly, unless a miracle occurs I just don’t see Trump being defeated, even if the election is relatively clean. His cult are fanatics.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:40:27pm

re: #44 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Politicians so often do the politically expedient thing, I think they should get some credit when they do the right thing.

that is how far we’ve fallen

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:40:53pm

re: #80 Belafon

Should the reponse to the one Republican doing the right thing be “Yay, I wish others were like you” or “Well, you did your job. What do you expect from me?”

My whole push back on this is that the way to get people to do the right thing is to encourage them to do the right thing, and rewards work far better than “well, at least you weren’t crappy.”

This is also going to damage the whole party…a lot of people are going to be asking why Mitt was the only GOP Senator to stand up and do his job.

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BeachDem  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:41:21pm

re: #62 lawhawk

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Yay—I was worried about Sinema. She’s been a bit wavery.

(My wingnut brother’s next door neighbor in Arizona had a Sinema sign the size of a billboard in his yard. Somebody was asking for directions to brother’s house and I said, “Just look for the Sinema billboard, then go one house down.” Brother was not pleased with me.)

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:41:58pm

re: #81 Skip Intro

Honestly, unless a miracle occurs I just don’t see Trump being defeated, even if the election is relatively clean. His cult are fanatics.

I see it. Yes, his cultists are fanatics - but the Democrats are highly motivated right now to curbstomp the GOP.

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William Lewis  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:42:29pm

Holy flying dizbusters! Daddys ghost must be haunting him.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:42:37pm

re: #80 Belafon

In Romney’s case I think so. His vote won’t matter, and he’s going to be under attack from the Trumpturds from now until he dies, yet he did it anyway. Well, I’m assuming he did it.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:42:49pm

re: #81 Skip Intro

Nine months these days is like a decade. You damn well know the Orange Anus is going to fuck everything up by the end of the week.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:42:55pm

re: #61 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I didn’t say it ends today. I said it’s going to eventually. I don’t like Romney and you’re right about low expectations but this is a vote of a member of one party voting for his own party’s president removal.

mitt has definitely said outloud what all the rest of them are too petrified to say

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:42:59pm

re: #62 lawhawk

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That only leaves Manchin as the remaining “swing vote.” I hope Joe understands that, after the decisions by Doug Jones and Mitt Romney today, that a vote to “acquit” on his party will not look “brave” or “principled” but instead look exactly what it is: the craven act of career politician worried only about his future reelection bids.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:43:25pm

re: #85 Dr Lizardo

I see it. Yes, his cultists are fanatics - but the Democrats are highly motivated right now to curbstomp the GOP.

They weren’t real motivated in Iowa this week, and that’s all I have to go on.

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EPR-radar  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:43:42pm

re: #81 Skip Intro

Honestly, unless a miracle occurs I just don’t see Trump being defeated, even if the election is relatively clean. His cult are fanatics.

Trump’s cult hasn’t grown since 2016. Therefore they are not the danger in 2020.

The danger in 2020 is that the D base is prone to get moody about doing their civic duty, and swing voters are intrinsically meatheads, equally able to vote for and against fascism for the pettiest of reasons.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:44:02pm
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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:44:06pm

re: #88 Ace Rothstein

Nine months these days is like a decade. You damn well know the Orange Anus is going to fuck everything up by the end of the week.

I certainly do.

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Teddy's Person  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:44:20pm

I am just heartsick today. Republicans are putting the needs of a malignant narcissist above their Constitutional duty of checks and balances. It’s not even party over country. It’s Donald fucking Trump over country. They could get their tax cuts and judges from Pence. I know, Trump controls their base, but I don’t think he has an unbreakable hold on those fucking morons. They could paint Trump as a failed businessman or even worse - a Democrat. They’ve had decades of smearing their perceived enemies. No, they want Trump because deep down in places they don’t talk about at parties they’re exactly like him. He allows them to finally say the quiet parts out loud, and they’re like pigs in shit.

And if you told me this morning that Mitt would give me a little relief from the onslaught of fascism today, I wouldn’t have believed you.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:44:30pm

Time to call it a day. Have fun, Lizards.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:44:57pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:44:57pm

re: #81 Skip Intro

Honestly, unless a miracle occurs I just don’t see Trump being defeated, even if the election is relatively clean. His cult are fanatics.

…and the media are on his side, or rather on the side of revenues, and Trump is ratings gold. They have a vested financial interest in keeping him around.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:45:43pm

re: #81 Skip Intro

Honestly, unless a miracle occurs I just don’t see Trump being defeated, even if the election is relatively clean. His cult are fanatics.

I’m more optimistic than you are on that front I concede but I think we both can agree that we’ve got nine months to go so nothing is certain. I’m just happy that he can’t act like it was a total witchhunt/hoax or whatever he wants to call it. Now he’s going to spin it either way but it’s nice that particular detail is against him.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:45:58pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

While Mitt will be the subject of the most public rage from Cheeto, the guy who can expect to hear the most screaming behind closed doors is Mitch. After all, he was supposed to deliver an “acquittal” vote from the entire caucus (and possible a Dem or two) today. It was supposed to be Donny’s big triumph, that he’d managed to not only defeat the “partisan” attack by the Dems, but do so with entire party united in support of his greatness. Now Mitt’s gone and shattered that dream, which means Mitch has failed his Don yet again.

it wont stop trump

i was acquitted by everyone except one guy who i never met

(i never met lev parnas either, i dont care how many pictures you think you got)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:46:32pm

You don’t think …..I mean it can’t be. Right? Okay, I’ll say it: Is it possible that Mitt actually believes all this God/sin/judgement/eternal damnation stuff? The Republicans would understandably be perplexed, since such a thing is completely outside their frame of reference.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:47:00pm

re: #101 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

You don’t think …..I mean it can’t be. Right? Okay, I’ll say it: Is it possible that Mitt actually believes all this God/sin/judgement/eternal damnation stuff? The Republicans would understandably be perplexed, since such a thing is completely outside their frame of reference.

No.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:47:38pm

Yeah, this is a rare light in an otherwise shit day

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:47:52pm

re: #91 Skip Intro

The caucus system is totally broken and there’s little reason to believe that it’s an indicator for anything other than how awful caucuses are. What people need to focus on is the GOTV in the primaries and the general election, and registering new voters.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:48:11pm

re: #85 Dr Lizardo

I see it. Yes, his cultists are fanatics - but the Democrats are highly motivated right now to curbstomp the GOP.

and there are more of us

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ericblair  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:48:16pm

re: #85 Dr Lizardo

I see it. Yes, his cultists are fanatics - but the Democrats are highly motivated right now to curbstomp the GOP.

What demographic group didn’t vote for Trump in 2016 that is going to in 2020? And how many of his primary supporters (old white men) have died in the last four years? He won with basically the narrowest possible margin in 2016. Not that everyone can assume it’s in the bag and go lie on the beach, but it’s the farthest thing from hopeless.

Also, I give more than even odds that Trump is either drooling in a hospital pillow or tucked away in a box by November, so there’s that.

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EPR-radar  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:48:30pm

re: #100 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

it wont stop trump

i was acquitted by everyone except one guy who i never met

(i never met lev parnas either, i dont care how many pictures you think you got)

I don’t care about it not stopping Trump, because that was never a possibility in the first place.

But not having his ‘perfect’ exoneration from the Senate will send Twitler into a rug-chewing rage. Wouldn’t it be a shame if that excess was bad for his health?

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:49:40pm

re: #106 ericblair

Maybe Limbaugh is the warmup act.

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:50:45pm

re: #107 EPR-radar

I don’t care about it not stopping Trump, because that was never a possibility in the first place.

But not having his ‘perfect’ exoneration from the Senate will send Twitler into a rug-chewing rage. Wouldn’t it be a shame if that excess was bad for his health?

Ayeah, consider how he’s spent weeks boasting that not a single Republican in the House voted to impeach him and there were Democrats who even voted against it. That was what he expected to do after today, go around boasting that he’d sailed through the entire way without a single defection and thus the entire thing had been “partisan” from start to finish. It’s not going to stop him from claiming that the whole thing was “partisan,” but after today it certainly stops him from insisting that not a single Republican voted against him.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:51:30pm

re: #109 Targetpractice

Ayeah, consider how he’s spent weeks boasting that not a single Republican in the House voted to impeach him and there were Democrats who even voted against it. That was what he expected to do after today, go around boasting that he’d sailed through the entire way without a single defection and thus the entire thing had been “partisan” from start to finish. It’s not going to stop him from claiming that the whole thing was “partisan,” but after today it certainly stops him from insisting that not a single Republican voted against him.

And not just any Republican. A former nominee.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:51:52pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:52:18pm

Sinema is a yes.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:53:11pm

re: #110 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

And not just any Republican. A former nominee.

yeah, but a loser. I actually won //

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William Lewis  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:53:22pm

re: #108 Ace Rothstein

Maybe Limbaugh is the warmup act.

Would it be horrible of me to wish for him to the first of a Classic “It happens in Threes” with Moscow Mitch and Mango Mussolini?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:53:39pm

re: #113 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

yeah, but a loser. I actually won //

Yeah i’m sure that’s what will be coming from the troll farms.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:54:24pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:54:29pm

“Head on a pike” does not bear the weight as a threat that it once did, I guess…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:54:44pm

re: #113 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

yeah, but a loser. I actually won //

But Romney got a higher percentage of votes…..

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:55:25pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Oh wow.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:55:43pm

re: #115 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah i’m sure that’s what will be coming from the troll farms.

it was tough in the beginning
it took us a while to nail down the schtick
now it’s all so banally predictable

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:55:45pm

re: #114 William Lewis

No. You would be doing a great service for your country.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:55:48pm

re: #101 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

You don’t think …..I mean it can’t be. Right? Okay, I’ll say it: Is it possible that Mitt actually believes all this God/sin/judgement/eternal damnation stuff? The Republicans would understandably be perplexed, since such a thing is completely outside their frame of reference.

Actually, he’s about the only Repug I would have thought did believe his own religious teachings. As much as anything because he doesn’t flaunt them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:55:53pm

re: #118 Blind Frog Belly White

But Romney got a higher percentage of votes…..

and he released his tax returns (for one year)

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:56:01pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Here’s my cynicism: Romney gave Manchin cover.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:56:12pm

Shocked. Shocked I say

No, really this time

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:56:59pm

re: #122 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Actually, he’s about the only Repug I would have thought did believe his own religious teachings. As much as anything because he doesn’t flaunt them.

It is also tactical: if Trump goes down this year and a people like Graham go down with the ship, he will be in a better position to control the remains of the GOP.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:57:10pm

Mitch is so full of shit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:57:45pm

re: #124 Belafon

Here’s my cynicism: Romney gave Manchin cover.

Not only that, but he denied Collins and Alexander any cover for their weak-ass hairsplitting excuses.

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:57:51pm

And thus the bitterness will be absolutely epic: Not a single Senate Dem defection and a prominent Senate Repub defection that the WH totally did not see coming. The seething is gonna be legen…wait for it…dary!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:58:03pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:58:38pm

re: #125 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Shocked. Shocked I say

No, really this time

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EPR-radar  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:59:17pm

re: #124 Belafon

Here’s my cynicism: Romney gave Manchin cover.

I’ll take a perfect D Senate vote on removal from office any way I can get it.

No D defections was always the maximum realistic hope, and now we’re past that with Romney.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 12:59:33pm

Mitch complaining about factional fever. Hahahhahaha

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:00:15pm

re: #133 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Mitch complaining about factional fever. Hahahhahaha

The same thought keeps looping in his head as he makes these remarks: “Fuck my life.”

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:00:15pm
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Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:00:42pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

What’s gotten into Joe Manchin all of a sudden?

But good on him.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:02:10pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:02:34pm

re: #135 Charles Johnson

Trump will also be furious with Mitch, who no doubt promised him no defections.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:02:49pm

re: #137 lawhawk

He literally brags about stopping all of the legislation the House passes.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:03:19pm

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They sure are and they sure do.

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ericblair  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:03:22pm

re: #114 William Lewis

Would it be horrible of me to wish for him to the first of a Classic “It happens in Threes” with Moscow Mitch and Mango Mussolini?

Come sit by me.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:04:09pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Get my fainting couch!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:04:21pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:05:12pm

Here comes the final vote.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:05:13pm

re: #143 Blind Frog Belly White

He’ll hate Mitt forever for that.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:06:05pm

First count- abuse of power.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:06:09pm

re: #145 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He’ll hate Mitt forever for that.

The funny thing is Romney is richer than Trump and Trump knows it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:06:15pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:06:29pm

re: #136 Sir John Barron

What’s gotten into Joe Manchin all of a sudden?

But good on him.

I have never and will never complain about Manchin. Somehow, he wins in the heart of MAGAville, and while he doesn’t always vote with us, any Republican from there would NEVER vote with us.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:06:45pm

re: #81 Skip Intro

Honestly, unless a miracle occurs I just don’t see Trump being defeated, even if the election is relatively clean. His cult are fanatics.

His cult is a minority. If the majority stay United, Trump loses.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:06:46pm

re: #147 Skip Intro

The funny thing is Romney is richer than Trump and Trump knows it.

Same thing with Bloomberg.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:07:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:07:15pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:07:41pm

re: #143 Blind Frog Belly White

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He lost the news cycle to Nancy tearing up the speech, then he lost the outrage cycle about that to Mitt declaring he’d vote to convict. All in less than 24 hours. He’s gotta be absolutely livid right now.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:07:50pm
New York Times: “When all the partisan posturing, parliamentary wrangling and legalistic arguing are stripped away, the impeachment process that dominated Washington for months produced a set of facts that is largely beyond dispute: The president of the United States pressured a foreign government to take actions aimed at his political opponents.”

“As the Senate moved toward acquitting President Trump on Wednesday, even some Republicans stopped trying to defend his actions or dispute the evidence, focusing instead on the idea that his conduct did not deserve removal from office, especially in an election year.”

the constitution doesnt say no impeachment in the last year of a term.
are you saying if he did this earlier you’d have booted him? no you’d have found another twisted rationale

so heres the problem with this idiotic kind of vote logic
he is impeached. in the last year of his term
everyone knows he did it - many of you admit it
but you wont remove him because it’s an election year or some other nonsense

because you wont convict, you are stuck with this as more or less ‘precedent’

this ludicrous reasoning to acquit is giving full cover and actually enshrining the specific and admitted bad (illegal) behavior as allowable in the future

- the abuse of power
- the obstruction of congress

congratulations

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:07:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:08:03pm
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:08:06pm

re: #147 Skip Intro

We’re all richer than Trump.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:08:12pm

re: #151 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Same thing with Bloomberg.

A reporter asked Bloomberg about an election between two New York billionaires. Bloomberg said, “Who’s the other one?”

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Interesting Times  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:08:30pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

Here comes the final vote.

Even though it’s a forgone conclusion, here’s something that can be used as a taunting point:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:08:44pm

re: #136 Sir John Barron

What’s gotten into Joe Manchin all of a sudden?

But good on him.

It seems all the Democrats will vote to convict. Acquittal will be partisan.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:09:04pm

re: #159 Blind Frog Belly White

A reporter asked Bloomberg about an election between two New York billionaires. Bloomberg said, “Who’s the other one?”

Mike’s also self made.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:09:17pm

re: #161 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It seems all the Democrats will vote to convict. Acquittal will be partisan.

And there’s your ad.

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EPR-radar  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:10:10pm

re: #154 Targetpractice

He lost the news cycle to Nancy tearing up the speech, then he lost the outrage cycle about that to Mitt declaring he’d vote to convict. All in less than 24 hours. He’s gotta be absolutely livid right now.

Someone, somewhere, must be working on the corresponding Downfall parody. Hopefully it ends up being well done.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:10:30pm

re: #147 Skip Intro

The funny thing is Romney is richer than Trump and Trump knows it.

michael bloomberg: who’s the other billionnaire running? oh you must mean Mitt Romney.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:10:41pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

McConnell will guide the bull to any china that remains unbroken.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:10:54pm

re: #165 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

michael bloomberg: who’s the other billionnaire running? oh you must mean Mitt Romney.

Wouldn’t that be hilarious?

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:11:00pm

Let’s take a moment to feel bad for all the news stenographers who had “BSAB because Republicans vote in lockstep to acquit” ready to go who are now scrambling to spin Romney’s defection as actually “good” for Trump.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:11:39pm

re: #168 Targetpractice

Let’s take a moment to feel bad for all the news stenographers who had “BSAB because Republicans vote in lockstep to acquit” ready to go who are now scrambling to spin Romney’s defection as actually “good” for Trump.

IT SHOWS HIS BREAK FROM HIS PARTY”S ESTABLISHMETN!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:12:09pm

It’s not a bug, it’s a feature

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:12:14pm

at least Mitt can say he wasn’t impeached…your dad can’t say the same.

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ericblair  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:13:35pm

re: #155 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

the constitution doesnt say no impeachment in the last year of a term.
are you saying if he did this earlier you’d have booted him? no you’d have found another twisted rationale

Also when the offense involved TRYING TO FIX THE NEXT ELECTION. For fuck’s sake, do these people think we’re all totally stupid?

Just like the reactionaries on the Supreme Court allowing gerrymandering the election for partisan gain, and if The People don’t like it, they can vote out the incumbents, except they gamed the election so you can’t do that…some catch, that Catch-22. Fuck all these people, and may they get what they deserve good and hard.

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:13:49pm

It’s good to know that all that “heads on pikes” business was untrue, right?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:13:50pm

Collins voted not guilty, as we knew she would.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:13:53pm

Just remember: No matter which way this vote goes the fucker is STILL IMPEACHED.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:14:38pm

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

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at least Mitt can he wasn’t impeached…your dad can’t say the same.

hell we said they would pull the “romney is a loser” card an hour ago

don jr probably had to look it up in the manual first

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:14:41pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:15:27pm

re: #174 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Collins voted not guilty, as we knew she would.

So we can downgrade the alert from “Furrowed Brow” now?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:15:34pm

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

at least Mitt can he wasn’t impeached…your dad can’t say the same.

The astonishing thing is he’s the second most whiny Donald John Trump :).

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Dave In Austin  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:15:35pm

re: #170 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

It’s not a bug, it’s a feature

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:15:48pm

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

Just remember: No matter which way this vote goes the fucker is STILL IMPEACHED.

that stain doesnt wash out
not even in the history books

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:15:53pm

re: #151 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Same thing with Bloomberg.

As of now Bloomberg is my guy.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:16:11pm
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ericblair  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:16:29pm

re: #168 Targetpractice

Let’s take a moment to feel bad for all the news stenographers who had “BSAB because Republicans vote in lockstep to acquit” ready to go who are now scrambling to spin Romney’s defection as actually “good” for Trump.

The poor stenographers. They had the BERNIE WINS BIG all written up for Tuesday, a bunch of thumbsuckers on how TRUMP REALLY BECAME PREZNIT last night, and a whole bunch more TOTES PARTISAN REMOVAL VOTE for today. They’re going to have to beat their interns very badly to get some column inches out.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:17:02pm

re: #182 Skip Intro

As of now Bloomberg is my guy.

I’m more open minded about him than I was. I’ll give him this much. He knows how to respond on the quick and the ads are solid.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:17:04pm

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

at least Mitt can say he wasn’t impeached…your dad can’t say the same.

That would be a Dem pickup Junior. Works for me. You’re not very good at this politics thing, are you?

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EPR-radar  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:17:39pm

re: #184 ericblair

The poor stenographers. They had the BERNIE WINS BIG all written up for Tuesday, a bunch of thumbsuckers on how TRUMP REALLY BECAME PREZNIT last night, and a whole bunch more TOTES PARTISAN REMOVAL VOTE for today. They’re going to have to beat their interns very badly to get some column inches out.

I find I can bear the misfortunes of the worthless US political media with great fortitude.

They have also lost the opportunity to pontificate endlessly on Pelosi ripping up the speech.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:17:41pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:18:29pm

re: #186 Skip Intro

That would be a Dem pickup Junior. Works for me.

I assume if Trump loses, Mitch will welcome Romney back into the party if he needs his vote to remain majority leader.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:18:40pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:19:20pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:19:21pm

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

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at least Mitt can he wasn’t impeached…your dad can’t say the same.

Romney should have a spokesperson tweet to Don Junior that his daddy will NEVER love him the way his daddy loves Ivanka.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:19:33pm

re: #189 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I assume if Trump loses, Mitch will welcome Romney back into the party if he needs his vote to remain majority leader.

Hopefully Mitch will be in Kentucky this time next February.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:19:55pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:20:26pm

Second article now. Expect the same numbers.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:20:29pm

So Trump’s SOTU high lasted all of less than a day.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:20:51pm

re: #191 Charles Johnson

Yeah I was hoping that maybe Mitt would have maybe inspired one of them to speak up but I knew it was slim to nil.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:20:52pm

re: #193 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Hopefully Mitch will be in Kentucky this time next February.

That would be really nice, and I will vote to make that happen in November.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:21:11pm
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jaunte  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:21:28pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:21:34pm

re: #196 Ace Rothstein

So Trump’s SOTU high lasted all of less than a day.

Oh, he’s going to gloat all fucking week about this acquittal. Be prepared to be nauseated.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:21:53pm

52 Not Guilty 48 Guilty on the first count. No surprise there.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:21:55pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:22:07pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:22:41pm

re: #201 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh, he’s going to gloat all fucking week about this acquittal. Be prepared to be nauseated.

Good. Let him gloat. I’ve been theorizing that the “perfect call” was a result of him being on a hamburder high after Mueller’s testimony on 7/24.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:22:43pm

re: #201 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh, he’s going to gloat all fucking week about this acquittal. Be prepared to be nauseated.

But Romney’s vote sours his victory; I’m glad of that.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:22:52pm

re: #201 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh, he’s going to gloat all fucking week about this acquittal. Be prepared to be nauseated.

It’s going to be worse than that. He’s going to say he was never impeached, and every single right wing outlet is going to agree with him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:22:57pm

re: #203 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

And with that, it goes from “This Partisan Impeachment!” to “This Partisan Acquittal!”

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:23:07pm
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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:23:08pm

re: #200 jaunte

There’s a similar metric involved in the House impeachment as well.

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aatharuv  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:23:09pm

re: #201 Eclectic Cyborg

The Republicans are going to say acquital. Everyone else should be saying, non-conviction — really, this vote was the equivalent of a hung jury. Unfortunately, everyone else, including NPR a few seconds back, is also saying acquital.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:23:26pm

lol

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:23:47pm

re: #208 Blind Frog Belly White

And with that, it goes from “This Partisan Impeachment!” to “This Partisan Acquittal!”

Yeah Mitt threw a wrench in that. Now of course right wing media is gonna keep the narrative but this is a legitimate wrench.

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BeachDem  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:23:53pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

Here comes the final vote.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:23:54pm

re: #192 A Three Hour Tour

Romney should have a spokesperson tweet to Don Junior that his daddy will NEVER love him the way his daddy loves Ivanka.

i’ve had more spontaneous LOLs today than i think i can remember

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:24:37pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol

The entire party is united except that one guy the President’s son demanded be expelled from the party.

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:24:51pm

re: #84 BeachDem

Yay—I was worried about Sinema. She’s been a bit wavery.

(My wingnut brother’s next door neighbor in Arizona had a Sinema sign the size of a billboard in his yard. Somebody was asking for directions to brother’s house and I said, “Just look for the Sinema billboard, then go one house down.” Brother was not pleased with me.)

Maybe Doug Jones’ vote helped.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:25:49pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lol. Lots of people in that thread calling each other Betas.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:25:51pm

re: #217 BlueSpotinAL

Maybe Doug Jones’ vote helped.

Yeah I think so. Doug’s up for re-election. She’s not going to be up until 2024- that’s anotehr election year. And her state is going to be a lot more friendly for a Democrat in 2024 than it is now.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:26:13pm

And Here We Goooooooooo………

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:26:20pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mitt Romney is an irrelevant relic.

The entire Republican Party is united behind @realDonaldTrump and knows he did nothing wrong.

Let’s call it what it is. You’re sour about Trump’s success and you want to keep your elitist dinner invites.

I have to agree with the first part: he is now a relic within his own party Even if Trump loses, his standing in the party is so diminished that he will have little say. Never-Trumpers will be seen by GOP True Believers as traitors and opportunist turncoats.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:26:32pm

re: #218 jaunte

Lol. Lots of people in that thread calling each other Betas.

They really seem eager to prove the idea that their whole movement is one giant MRA movement.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:27:27pm

re: #211 aatharuv

The Republicans are going to say acquital. Everyone else should be saying, non-conviction — really, this vote was the equivalent of a hung jury. Unfortunately, everyone else, including NPR a few seconds back, is also saying acquital.

apparently convict or acquit is the language

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:27:48pm

No Exoneration

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:27:51pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol

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sure, if by ‘united’ you mean ‘not everybody’

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:28:20pm

IMPORTANT: Acquittal does NOT equal INNOCENCE.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:29:15pm

re: #220 Dave In Austin

The Federalist. What a bunch of fucking morons.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:29:28pm

re: #226 Eclectic Cyborg

IMPORTANT: Acquittal does NOT equal INNOCENCE.

TO the GOP spin machine it means

EXONERATED + BASELESS PARTISAN WITCH HUNT

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Citizen K  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:30:06pm

re: #188 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

It’s worth a reminder that the Maladministration removed gang and cartel violence as acceptable asylum claims. This is exactly what they wanted to see.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:30:10pm

I’m sure all of those people thinking Trump is acquitted believe OJ was innocent. //

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:30:40pm

re: #226 Eclectic Cyborg

IMPORTANT: Acquittal does NOT equal INNOCENCE.

it means not convicted. nothing else

and when your own party admits you did it but they wont remove you anyway, that’s hardly ‘exoneration’. unless they dont count as ‘united’ either

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Interesting Times  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:30:44pm

Ooof:

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:31:26pm

re: #228 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

TO the GOP spin machine it means

EXONERATED + BASELESS PARTISAN WITCH HUNT

A lot good that did them. Ronna couldn’t even convince her own uncle.

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:31:46pm

re: #226 Eclectic Cyborg

IMPORTANT: Acquittal does NOT equal INNOCENCE.

I don’t consider it an “acquital.” When the jury in a criminal trial stands at 7-5 in favor of acquittal and there is no way to change the outcome, the best the defense can expect at that point is for the judge to rule a mistrial and the prosecution to choose not to retry the case before a new jury. Any judge who tried to rule that an “acquittal” would have his ass before an ethics board in a New York minute.

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aatharuv  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:31:53pm

re: #226 Eclectic Cyborg

IMPORTANT: Acquittal does NOT equal INNOCENCE.

Agreed, but words have connotations beyond their mere dictionary definitions. Using words that are 100% clearer are needed to drive the point home that he wasn’t cleared of the charges, even if he was acquited.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:32:23pm

re: #232 Interesting Times

Each day for the rest of his life term in office Lindsey Graham will live in enraged jealousy of Mitt Romney’s courage craven fear of Putin’s kompromat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:33:46pm

there’s always a tweet:

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:33:55pm

47 Guilty 53 Not Guilty. Again nothing surprising here.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:35:02pm

re: #238 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

47 Guilty 53 Not Guilty. Again nothing surprising here.

Who switched?

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BeachDem  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:35:19pm

re: #232 Interesting Times

Ooof:

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Each day for the rest of his life @LindseyGrahamSC will live in enraged jealousy of @MittRomney’s courage.

Assumes Lindsey has any idea what courage is…or any other admirable quality.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:35:25pm

re: #238 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

47 Guilty 53 Not Guily. Again nothing surprising here.

I’m surprised Manchin went all in on both counts

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aatharuv  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:35:37pm

re: #239 Belafon

Who switched?

Romney was only going to convict on obstruction.abuse of power.

Edit: Woops, I got the articles wrong, as pointed out by FormerDirtDart. Fixed my mistake.

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Chrysicat  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:35:39pm

Haven’t checked either Twitter or the news to confirm it yet, but one of my friends says she’ll never log in again because her TL would be flooded with Bernie-or-Bust leftists.

In particular, one of the folks she’d thought was balanced; just a few minutes ago RT’d a tweet that recapped that the DNC is assuming direct oversight of vote tabulation in all remaining primaries and caucuses because of the disaster in Iowa, and added a photo-meme captioned “holy shit, they’re actually rigging it”.

Which incidentally means that we’ll lose even more Sandernista votes by nominating anyone who isn’t Bernie this year than in ‘16, while I still remain convinced he’ll pull a McGovern if he is nominated due the the justified fear that since the majority of his supporters are Leninists, he might be one.

I just want to die now…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:35:40pm

re: #238 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

47 Guilty 53 Not Guilty. Again nothing surprising here.

Mitt split his vote. Guilty on count 1, not guilty on count 2.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:35:47pm

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

.@MittRomney has announced he is running for the Senate from the wonderful State of Utah. He will make a great Senator and worthy successor to @OrrinHatch, and has my full support and endorsement!] look good with his head on a pike!!!

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:36:00pm

re: #242 aatharuv

Romney was only going to convict on obstruction.

OK. That’s still better than nothing.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:36:19pm

re: #239 Belafon

Who switched?

Romney. Not guilty on the second charge.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:36:27pm

ALL HAIL KING TRUMP.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:36:41pm

re: #239 Belafon

Who switched?

Mitt, I believe. I guess the President may not extort an ally to make up dirt on one of his political opponents, but if he does he’s allowed to cover it up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:37:14pm

re: #242 aatharuv

Romney was only going to convict on obstruction.

As for questions posed upthread, this has nothing to do with moral convictions or beliefs, it is political posturing and strategy.

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:37:30pm

re: #187 EPR-radar

I find I can bear the misfortunes of the worthless US political media with great fortitude.

They have also lost the opportunity to pontificate endlessly on Pelosi ripping up the speech.

Howl

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:37:54pm

re: #219 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah I think so. Doug’s up for re-election. She’s not going to be up until 2024- that’s anotehr election year. And her state is going to be a lot more friendly for a Democrat in 2024 than it is now.

People are thinking Doug Jones is toast. Let me tell you, Roy Moore could ride again! A lot of ways the votes could be split with so many other “traditional” (yet awful) candidates.
Jefferson Beauregard Sessions, III
Bradley Byrne

and of course, nontraditional
Tommy Tuberville (ex Auburn football coach, I still think the Tides fans can’t pull the lever for him)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:38:41pm

re: #252 BlueSpotinAL

People are thinking Doug Jones is toast. Let me tell you, Roy Moore could ride again! A lot of ways the votes could be split with so many other “traditional” (yet awful) candidates.
Jefferson Beauregard Sessions, III
Bradley Byrne

and of course, nontraditional
Tommy Tuberville (ex Auburn football coach, I still think the Tides fans can’t pull the lever for him)

That would be hilarious if Moore rode again.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:39:14pm

re: #242 aatharuv

Romney was only going to convict on obstruction.

Other way. Art 1 was Abuse of Power (Guilty from Romney)
Art 2 was Obstruction of Congress

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:40:02pm

re: #254 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Other way. Art 1 was Abuse of Power (Guilty from Romney)
Art 2 was Obstruction of Congress

I don’t get that but hey it’s something.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:40:10pm

re: #253 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

That would be hilarious if Moore rode again.

Alabama’s GOP are dumb enough to do it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:40:22pm

The fact that he voted guilty on one vote got Trump Jr into a shit fit.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:40:54pm

re: #256 Blind Frog Belly White

Alabama’s GOP are dumb enough to do it.

Lest we forget that the GOP electorate’s love of nominating crazies has helped us before.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:42:35pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:43:05pm

Donald Trump - the only impeached President ever to have a member of his own party vote to convict and remove.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:43:27pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol

Brad sounds triggered

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Dave In Austin  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:44:11pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:44:16pm

re: #260 Blind Frog Belly White

Donald Trump - the only impeached President ever to have a member of his own party vote to convict and remove.

Hey he’s making history just like he wanted to.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:45:47pm

re: #261 Sir John Barron

Brad sounds triggered

Those grapes are probably sour, anyway.

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:45:55pm

re: #253 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

That would be hilarious if Moore rode again.

Roy Moore’s horse has a twitter, and is blocked by Roy Moore.

twitter.com

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BeachDem  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:47:01pm

re: #260 Blind Frog Belly White

Donald Trump - the only impeached President ever to have a member of his own party vote to convict and remove.

And Lindsey still bitching about Nancy’s pens.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:48:54pm

re: #266 BeachDem

And Lindsey still bitching about Nancy’s pens.

Performative outrage.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:50:13pm

I’m sitting here with a dejected 11 year old, trying to reassure him that he will live to see history’s longer verdict on all of this.

But it’s depressing as hell in the moment.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:51:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:53:00pm
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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:54:28pm

re: #268 i(m)p(each)sos

I’m sitting here with a dejected 11 year old, trying to reassure him that he will live to see history’s longer verdict on all of this.

But it’s depressing as hell in the moment.

Tell him that it’s the fact the he’s paying attention is part of the reason we will live to see it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:55:15pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:55:30pm

If I have to be honest, I have to say that the Impeachment went as well as it could have. The House Managers presented our case and lost. This is not a reflection of them. We fail if we don’t keep investigating, keep asking the questions and insisting on answers. I give Nancy an A with extra credit for ripping up the “speech.” As many have pointed out, the hard work is just beginning. Nothing during this process helped trump.
fight on.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:55:38pm

So like clockwork he proves that he didn’t learn a goddamned thing.

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:55:43pm

Mitt did something significant today, something that is only going to hurt his vulnerable colleagues: He not only acknowledged that Trump broke the law, he voted to convict him for doing so. And the flying monkeys are showing him not a bit of mercy because he only voted on that count.

So Susan, Cory, Joni, take note: You’re fucked no matter how you slice it. You voted to “acquit,” so not matter how you spin it, nobody is going to buy how “troubled” you were by Donny’s actions. And any acknowledgment that the call was less than “perfect,” even if you declare it wasn’t worth impeaching, is gonna lead to you being savaged by hordes of rabid MAGAts.

The cherry on top? Donny doesn’t reward loyalty because he expects it to be unconditional. He thinks you work for him, rather than you both working for the American voters. So if you’re hoping he’s gonna help you get over the finish line, then there’s a bridge for sale in NY that I’m giving away for cheap.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:56:01pm

re: #272 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Can’t wait to the right wingers who claim MLK as their own to be outraged about this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:56:25pm
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BeachDem  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:56:46pm

Odds that the vulgar talking yam will take George Conway’s major burn at face value and start quoting from it?

George Conway: I believe the president, and in the president

washingtonpost.com

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:56:56pm

re: #249 Blind Frog Belly White

Mitt, I believe. I guess the President may not extort an ally to make up dirt on one of his political opponents, but if he does he’s allowed to cover it up.

none of the acquit logic makes sense. none of it.

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A Three Hour Tour  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:57:18pm

re: #248 Eclectic Cyborg

ALL HAIL KING TRUMP.

Three and a half years ago, a BernieBro friend of a friend on Facebook tried to insist that I thought the president was akin to a king or emperor when I tried to convince him of the necessity of preventing a Trump victory, even if at the cost of Bernie supporters having to vote for Hillary.

He tried in vain to convince me that same Republicans would work with Democrats to hold Trump in check.

As I tried to tell him then, it wasn’t a matter of me believing a Republican president to be like unto a king, but rather the Republicans believed so.

Well, the history of the past three years has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they do.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:57:27pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:57:56pm

Moron just retweeted a stupid fucking meme of himself.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:58:05pm

re: #269 I Would Prefer Not To

I’ll care when they’re outraged that Javanka have made millions off the presidency.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 1:58:39pm

re: #262 Dave In Austin

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mitch has a stack of bills in his desk drawer
just saying

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:00:03pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:01:13pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

You know if these guys hate women so much. They can always start an all men’s colony on the summit of a volcano.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:01:14pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:02:11pm

re: #286 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

You know if these guys hate women so much. They can always start an all men’s colony on the summit of a volcano.

Come on, man, even volcano gods don’t deserve that sort of misery.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:02:33pm

re: #287 Charles Johnson

Oh he’s just joking. He’s totally learned his lesson!

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:02:42pm

re: #284 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

mitch has a stack of bills in his desk drawer
just saying

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and no, i didnt mean payoffs
(that’s in a different drawer)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:02:59pm

re: #288 Targetpractice

Come on, man, even volcano gods don’t deserve that sort of misery.

Yeah sorry Pele. Uh got any better ideas?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:03:00pm

re: #286 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

You know if these guys hate women so much. They can always start an all men’s colony on the summit of a volcano.

No shortage of virgins to toss in.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:03:30pm

Mattingly- CNN’s Congressional guy reports that Romney was very much a lone voice in his caucus. I don’t like Mitt but he did the right thing here and it will be remembered.

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:03:36pm

re: #291 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah sorry Pele. Uh got any better ideas?

Catapulting them into the sun has a certain appeal.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:03:58pm

re: #289 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Oh he’s just joking. He’s totally learned his lesson!

He is going to make Lamar Alexander and Susan Collins look so, so stupid.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:04:12pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

people die, cheat, steal
sometimes they just dont feel like honoring their oaths and vows.

you know, like republican senators, save one half of one

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:04:37pm

re: #295 Blind Frog Belly White

He is going to make Lamar Alexander and Susan Collins look so, so stupid.

He already has. Wait until he opens his mouth.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:05:28pm

re: #295 Blind Frog Belly White

He is going to make Lamar Alexander and Susan Collins look so, so stupider than they already do.

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gocart mozart  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:05:57pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:05:58pm

Accosta gets it immediately. That talking point about this being partisan is gone.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:06:09pm

So I’m gonna guess here that Ronna Romney’s job at the GOP is toast.

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:06:28pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Having known several single mothers over the years, the constant variable (in my observations) are the immature jackasses who are there for the sex and love the “benefits” of being a dad, but are nowhere to be found when the responsibilities of the job crop up.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:07:40pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:07:46pm

re: #299 gocart mozart

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Translation: She and Mitch had a “heart-to-heart” and it was made clear to her that there are limits to how much of a “moderate” she afford to be.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:08:09pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:08:49pm

Check this out

That’s SB winning QB Pat Mahomes mocking Trump.

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:09:08pm

re: #284 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

mitch has a stack of bills in his desk drawer
just saying

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One stack is $$$$$$.

The other was sent over by Pelosi..

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:09:12pm

re: #299 gocart mozart

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a better word would have been “guilty”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:09:15pm

re: #301 Skip Intro

So I’m gonna guess here that Ronna Romney’s job at the GOP is toast.

Probably.

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:09:35pm

re: #306 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Check this out

[Embedded content]

That’s SB winning QB Pat Mahomes mocking Trump.

Something I’m sure will not be brought up when the team is invited to the WH for a buffet of fast food trash.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:09:55pm

re: #301 Skip Intro

So I’m gonna guess here that Ronna Romney’s job at the GOP is toast.

well if they can blame joe for hunter…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:10:37pm

LOL
sure, Jan…

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:10:58pm

re: #243 Chrysicat

Haven’t checked either Twitter or the news to confirm it yet, but one of my friends says she’ll never log in again because her TL would be flooded with Bernie-or-Bust leftists.

In particular, one of the folks she’d thought was balanced; just a few minutes ago RT’d a tweet that recapped that the DNC is assuming direct oversight of vote tabulation in all remaining primaries and caucuses because of the disaster in Iowa, and added a photo-meme captioned “holy shit, they’re actually rigging it”.

Which incidentally means that we’ll lose even more Sandernista votes by nominating anyone who isn’t Bernie this year than in ‘16, while I still remain convinced he’ll pull a McGovern if he is nominated due the the justified fear that since the majority of his supporters are Leninists, he might be one.

I just want to die now…

Sanders has stated publicly that he will vote for the Democratic candidate, because that’s better than DT. Who knows whether his rabid followers will do it.

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bratwurst  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:11:04pm

Perhaps I am alone in this, but I am getting angry that the insane news cycle we are living in is in danger of letting the Iowa Democratic Party off the hook.

I continue to believe there is s strong connection between the electoral process being turned into a reality TV show and the fact we have a sociopathic reality game show host with a fake orange tan as POTUS.

For me:

(A) Caucuses must be eliminated from the process completely.

(B) Iowa loses “first in nation” status forever. Let’s break the continuous 48 states into groups by size (sorry folks in AK & HI, but it is simply too prohibitively expensive for non-billionaires to be campaigning for months in your states) and randomly draw a comparable state (in the 2-4 million kind of range) to begin with. Then there is at least a CHANCE the first state will represent the country better than Iowa and New Hampshire.

(C) The people responsible for this debacle need to be sent looking for work outside of politics.

Anything less than the above is fucking bullshit IMO.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:11:17pm

November. Make them pay. Get organizing NOW.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:11:30pm

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL
sure, Jan…

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But was only announced afterwards.

Ri-i-ight.

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:11:42pm

re: #301 Skip Intro

So I’m gonna guess here that Ronna Romney’s job at the GOP is toast.

She’s gonna have to get creative in how she shows fealty to The Don if she wants to keep her job. Don’t think it’s gonna be possible short of excommunicating him from the party. Or performing the Klingon ritual of discommendation by having him stand in the well of the Senate as the party leaders turn their backs towards him.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:11:42pm

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL
sure, Jan…

Yeah sure.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:12:11pm

re: #252 BlueSpotinAL

People are thinking Doug Jones is toast. Let me tell you, Roy Moore could ride again! A lot of ways the votes could be split with so many other “traditional” (yet awful) candidates.
Jefferson Beauregard Sessions, III
Bradley Byrne

and of course, nontraditional
Tommy Tuberville (ex Auburn football coach, I still think the Tides fans can’t pull the lever for him)

I’m hoping Moore and Sessions split the Repugs.

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:12:29pm

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL
sure, Jan…

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Saying the decision came before the announcement doesn’t mean much, as I very much doubt that he kept quiet about his intention prior to taking the podium.

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:13:41pm

re: #314 bratwurst

I have seen several nearly prehistoric articles saying, basically, “this debacle proves that this Iowa first in the nation business has got to stop!”

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gocart mozart  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:14:20pm

Storyline Fever

On occasion, we all do battle with motivational paralysis
Unable to perform some simple task
Trapped at the stage of analysis
Thoughts of the shortness of life may beget
Bouts of shortness of breath in your chest
Doubts about the worth of the nights you got left
Crowding out all the fear and regret
You got storyline fever, storyline flu
It’s filtering how everything looks to you
Don’t you reckon it’s affecting your attitude?
Storyline fever got its hooks in you
Storyline fever got its hooks in you
You took your love to the marketplace
In the wanting corner of a Western state
Where every other shopper is a basket case
Just relies on the horizon, forms a frowning face
Hanging around those haunts at night
Where half the clientele was part poltergeist
Grinding an axe against all that exists
Minus their protected exceptions to it
You got storyline fever, storyline flu
Apparently impairing your point of view
It’s making horseshit sound true to you
Now it’s impacting how you’re acting too
Now it’s impacting how you’re acting too
Got a comb over cut circa Abscam sting
Make a better Larry than Lizard King
But you got to find a way to make it work
‘Cause your feet is where your demons lurk
When you’re seller and commodity
You gotta sell yourself immodestly
Turn your pedestal into a carving board
If that’s what the audience is starving for
You got storyline fever, storyline flu
You’re filtering how everything looks to you
Don’t you reckon it’s affecting your attitude?
Storyline fever got its hooks in you
Storyline fever got its hooks in you

Songwriter: David Berman

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:14:46pm

re: #321 retired cynic

I have seen several nearly prehistoric articles saying, basically, “this debacle proves that this Iowa first in the nation business has got to stop!”

Yeah I hope this gets sorted out soon. The IADP fucked up no doubt about it. And yes a caucus in a lily white state to start out the primaries is beyond stupid.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:16:09pm

He’s claiming “victory” over the “hoax.”

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:16:16pm

Shamelessly pilfered from Fark:

Mitt: “Mitch, do I have cover to split my vote or are the margins too tight?”
Mitch: “Lemme lean on Collins a bit and get back to you.”
Collins: “I think Trump has learned his lesson.”
Mitch: “All good, Mitt.”
Mitt: “Behold, America. I have principles!”

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bratwurst  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:17:00pm

re: #321 retired cynic

I have seen several nearly prehistoric articles saying, basically, “this debacle proves that this Iowa first in the nation business has got to stop!”

Same here…that is why I am so afraid they are going to get away with this. I would have thought it was obvious that the stakes right now are WAY TOO HIGH to run a shit show masquerading as electoral process, but apparently not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:17:37pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:18:38pm
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Chrysicat  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:18:47pm

re: #272 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:18:50pm

re: #301 Skip Intro

So I’m gonna guess here that Ronna Romney’s job at the GOP is toast.

She’s willing to sell out her uncle to keep it. I’m guessing she’ll tell them where he lives.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:19:06pm

re: #291 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah sorry Pele. Uh got any better ideas?

The runoff pond at a hog farm?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:20:36pm

re: #331 Jebediah, RBG

The runoff pond at a hog farm?

There ya go. Jordan Peterson can make pig shit mud sandwiches for them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:22:38pm

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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And who the fuck didn’t see that coming?

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Chrysicat  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:22:49pm

re: #301 Skip Intro

So I’m gonna guess here that Ronna Romney’s job at the GOP is toast.

I wouldn’t bet on it. I’ve already seen a tweet from her basically condemning him to hell for doing that. OTOH, it’s a very good thing for Mitt that the king will probably be dead by 2024 because if Trump’s alive, he’ll bankroll multiple primary challengers.

And that’s assuming that he doesn’t have the party reworked in such a way that it’s illegal to declare oneself a Republican without a membership card and then deny one to Mitt.

Mitt did the bravest thing he ever has in his life. And it’s likely to cost him his extended family.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:23:41pm

re: #328 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:24:10pm

re: #314 bratwurst

Perhaps I am alone in this, but I am getting angry that the insane news cycle we are living in is in danger of letting the Iowa Democratic Party off the hook.

I continue to believe there is s strong connection between the electoral process being turned into a reality TV show and the fact we have a sociopathic reality game show host with a fake orange tan as POTUS.

For me:

(A) Caucuses must be eliminated from the process completely.

(B) Iowa loses “first in nation” status forever. Let’s break the continuous 48 states into groups by size (sorry folks in AK & HI, but it is simply too prohibitively expensive for non-billionaires to be campaigning for months in your states) and randomly draw a comparable state (in the 2-4 million kind of range) to begin with. Then there is at least a CHANCE the first state will represent the country better than Iowa and New Hampshire.

(C) The people responsible for this debacle need to be sent looking for work outside of politics.

Anything less than the above is fucking bullshit IMO.

Neither the DNC nor the Iowa Democratic party controls when Iowa goes on the calendar. That is controlled by the state government. So, for it to change, Democrats will have to gain control of the legislature and governor.

Similarly for the caucus vs primary. If the state doesn’t want to pay for a primary, the party will have to. And running a primary without the help of the state will be expensive.

Also, though, the Iowa caucus is 5/9 in determining the nominee, thus it’s useless at determining the top of the ticket. OTOH, it can weed out lower candidates.

It needs to change, but the state party doesn’t have as much power as people think.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:25:51pm

re: #325 Targetpractice

Shamelessly pilfered from Fark:

Any non-loyalty will be seen by the GOP as grounds for excommunication. This was a pretty brave move by him.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:28:58pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:30:21pm

re: #329 Chrysicat

Probably could have editted this down to include Rustin’s name
a confidant of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr
confidant of MLK, Bayard Rustin.
with 8 extra characters to spare

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:31:04pm

Has Donnie started rage tweeting at Mittens yet?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:32:31pm

OK, can’t wait for the late Friday evening news dump from the White House this weekend

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Chrysicat  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:34:07pm

re: #334 Chrysicat

I wouldn’t bet on it. I’ve already seen a tweet from her basically condemning him to hell for doing that. OTOH, it’s a very good thing for Mitt that the king will probably be dead by 2024 because if Trump’s alive, he’ll bankroll multiple primary challengers.

And that’s assuming that he doesn’t have the party reworked in such a way that it’s illegal to declare oneself a Republican without a membership card and then deny one to Mitt.

Mitt did the bravest thing he ever has in his life. And it’s likely to cost him his extended family.

Though I hadn’t thought about this:

He still did a brave thing. It was nonetheless very much the wrong thing and if he had to acquit on one article, Article I would have been the better one for just the reason “Independent Justice” pointed out. He’s still making the President a king, since Congress can’t investigate any allegation.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:35:22pm

re: #342 Chrysicat

Though I hadn’t thought about this:

He still did a brave thing. It was nonetheless very much the wrong thing and if he had to acquit on one article, Article I would have been the better one for just the reason “Independent Justice” pointed out. He’s still making the President a king, since Congress can’t investigate any allegation.

That is a good point. Would have been better if he just voted guilty on both counts.

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Disloyal Archangel  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:41:18pm

Sorely tempted to post much, much worse that would probably get me suspended…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:43:20pm

re: #344 Disloyal Archangel

Sorely tempted to post worse that would get me suspended there…

More people voted for his impeachment than anyone in history and more voted for his removal. Those are record numbers! He should be psyched. We know how much Count Dumbald loves numbers.

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garzooma  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:45:32pm

re: #342 Chrysicat

Though I hadn’t thought about this:

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He still did a brave thing. It was nonetheless very much the wrong thing and if he had to acquit on one article, Article I would have been the better one for just the reason “Independent Justice” pointed out. He’s still making the President a king, since Congress can’t investigate any allegation.

I agree that not convicting on Article II was bad for the reasons you cite. But Dems also didn’t impeach on the obstruction that Mueller described. So the world just doesn’t see obstruction the way I do.

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BeachDem  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:46:53pm

re: #338 Charles Johnson

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And speaking of absolute assholes…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:47:13pm

re: #346 garzooma

I agree that not convicting on Article II was bad for the reasons you cite. But Dems also didn’t impeach on the obstruction that Mueller described. So the world just doesn’t see obstruction the way I do.

Yeah I thought Mueller outlined clear obstruction too. I’m just glad that he can’t hide the whole PARTISAN IMPEACHMENT and actuality Mitt gave a new phrase PARTISAN ACQUITTAL. We knew it was coming but here it is.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:48:02pm

re: #347 BeachDem

And speaking of absolute assholes…

McCarthy is the Paul Ryan of Newt Gingriches.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:48:06pm
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gocart mozart  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:49:23pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:49:59pm

I feel I should point out here that an acquitted person is certainly capable of committing further crimes.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:51:59pm

re: #352 Eclectic Cyborg

I feel I should point out here that an acquitted person is certainly capable of committing further crimes.

The last time he claimed he was exonerated he went out and did the thing got him impeached. So yeah I’m okay with him being cocky about this. It means he’ll be reckless and stupid. He’s not going to use his opportunity to be contrite about what happened. He’s going to go on a bizarre stream of conscience rant about whatever eating his ass up at the moment.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:52:31pm

And yeah he absolutely can be impeached again. Will it happen? Probably not but here we are.

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gocart mozart  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:53:01pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:54:36pm

re: #355 gocart mozart

Didn’t that idiot Charlie Kirk seriously use him for his Blexit idea? Maybe next he’ll bring El Chap o for Latinos por Trump and Kim Jong Un for Asians for Trump and MBS for Muslims for Trump.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:55:48pm
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jaunte  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:56:25pm

Trumpists are followers.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:57:05pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:57:07pm

re: #357 jaunte

Mitt’s going to win in the court of public opinion over the right wingers attacking him on this. The media loves a maverick story.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:57:39pm

re: #358 jaunte

Trumpists are followers.

They really are. They’re some of the biggest political sheep I’ve ever seen.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:57:40pm
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jaunte  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:57:50pm

Big Head Seb and the Mobsters.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 2:59:04pm

re: #363 jaunte

Big Head Seb and the Mobsters.

What kind of music are they? Hungarian Screamo? Because my old roommate liked Screamo but it didn’t do it for me. Gimme Americana.

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:01:30pm

What exactly did Trump “win”?

- The best one can argue about his approval rating is that it has rebounded to where it began last September, much like it did during the Clinton impeachment, but that still leaves him underwater and experiencing (at best) a dead-cat bounce. So the assertions that impeachment would make him more popular are shredded

- Despite all the assertions that he’d be better set to win reelection, he’s still trailing in most election projections. And all those projections assume the economy stays the same or experiences approval no greater than what has already happened. So if the economy tanks in the next 9 months, then he’s fucked.

- The predictions that impeachment would be wildly unpopular and he’d benefit from such? Nope, the best the Repubs have managed is polls showing impeach/removal within the margin of error, there has never been a point in the proceedings where people were as opposed as they were by the time the Clinton “trial” concluded.

- And the final indignity is that all of the above likely explains why he will be the only president in history to have a member of his own party vote for his conviction, while not a single member of the opposition party voted for “acquittal” like 10 Republicans did for Clinton. So while he’ll try to insist (despite the evidence) that the conviction vote was “partisan,” the one thing he can’t do without leading to laughter is insist that his “acquittal” was “bipartisan.”

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:01:51pm

re: #335 Skip Intro

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HEY! Iowa was the one who fucked up. Not us.

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BeachDem  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:04:27pm

re: #350 jaunte

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:04:40pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:04:54pm

re: #365 Targetpractice

What exactly did Trump “win”?

- The best one can argue about his approval rating is that it has rebounded to where it began last September, much like it did during the Clinton impeachment, but that still leaves him underwater and experiencing (at best) a dead-cat bounce. So the assertions that impeachment would make him more popular are shredded

- Despite all the assertions that he’d be better set to win reelection, he’s still trailing in most election projections. And all those projections assume the economy stays the same or experiences approval no greater than what has already happened. So if the economy tanks in the next 9 months, then he’s fucked.

- The predictions that impeachment would be wildly unpopular and he’d benefit from such? Nope, the best the Repubs have managed is polls showing impeach/removal within the margin of error, there has never been a point in the proceedings where people were as opposed as they were by the time the Clinton “trial” concluded.

- And the final indignity is that all of the above likely explains why he will be the only president in history to have a member of his own party vote for his conviction, while not a single member of the opposition party voted for “acquittal” like 10 Republicans did for Clinton. So while he’ll try to insist (despite the evidence) that the conviction vote was “partisan,” the one thing he can’t do without leading to laughter is insist that his “acquittal” was “bipartisan.”

There’s another factor. He’ll probably try something stupid again. This isn’t someone who learns from fucking up. If he was, he wouldn’t be here tonight. We’re here because he probably legit thought no one would go after him if he tried something again since Mueller “failed.” I’m sure there’s more rotting onions waiting to come out.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:07:05pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:08:54pm

re: #369 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

There’s another factor. He’ll probably try something stupid again. This isn’t someone who learns from fucking up. If he was, he wouldn’t be here tonight. We’re here because he probably legit thought no one would go after him if he tried something again since Mueller “failed.” I’m sure there’s more rotting onions waiting to come out.

Absolutely, he’s going to try again because A) he thinks Dems will shy away from further investigations/impeachment now that he’s “beat” them, B) knows that Senate Repubs won’t ever vote to convict him, and C) that the public will take his side if the Dems do try to impeach him again.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:09:12pm

re: #370 jaunte

My favorite was the supposedly libertarian and skeptical of too powerful government Rand Paul saying the name of the alleged WBer but then again I’ve always thought Rand and his father were both frauds when it came to liberties when push came to shove. Both of them have some rotten stuff in their closets.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:09:33pm

re: #371 Targetpractice

Absolutely, he’s going to try again because A) he thinks Dems will shy away from further investigations/impeachment now that he’s “beat” them, B) knows that Senate Repubs won’t ever vote to convict him, and C) that the public will take his side if the Dems do try to impeach him again.

A matter of when not if at this point IMHO.

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Disloyal Archangel  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:11:29pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:14:05pm

Amazing. The Republicans are piking Mitt Romney for an acquittal vote on ONE COUNT.

I said before: TEN FUCKING REPUBLICANS could have voted to convict and we still would have had acquittal by a significant margin. The outcome of this was never in doubt but because one guy voted against the party on one vote that in the end didn’t mean shit, he’s suddenly persona non grata.

Great priorities there you morons.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:14:35pm

re: #374 Disloyal Archangel

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Acquitted only because the founders never considered that a guy like McConnell would run the Senate.

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:15:13pm

re: #376 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Acquitted only because the founders never considered that a guy like McConnell would run the Senate.

And that the Senators would let him.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:15:51pm

re: #375 Eclectic Cyborg

Amazing. The Republicans are piking Mitt Romney for an acquittal vote on ONE COUNT.

I said before: TEN FUCKING REPUBLICANS could have voted to convict and we still would have had acquittal by a significant margin. The outcome of this was never in doubt but because one guy voted against the party on one vote that in the end didn’t mean shit, he’s suddenly persona non grata.

Great priorities there you morons.

Well when your movement is a cult. I guess Reagan can finally rest because Trump is the Great Successor.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:16:08pm

re: #377 retired cynic

And that the Senators would let him.

Yep.

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garzooma  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:16:50pm

re: #372 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

My favorite was the supposedly libertarian and skeptical of too powerful government Rand Paul saying the name of the alleged WBer but then again I’ve always thought Rand and his father were both frauds when it came to liberties when push came to shove. Both of them have some rotten stuff in their closets.

If Trump shot someone on 5th Avenue, Rand Paul would harass anyone who called 911.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:17:15pm

re: #380 garzooma

If Trump shot someone on 5th Avenue, Rand Paul would harass anyone who called 911.

And he’d refuse to allow the cops to provide first aid.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:17:41pm

re: #375 Eclectic Cyborg

They can’t bear the least show of independent thought.

“Unfaith in aught is want of faith in all.
It is the little rift within the lute,
That by and by will make the music mute,
And ever widening slowly silence all.
The little rift within the lover’s lute
Or little pitted speck in garnered fruit,
That rotting inward slowly moulders all.”
enotes.com

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:19:02pm

re: #370 jaunte

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:19:41pm

re: #380 garzooma

If Trump shot someone on 5th Avenue, Rand Paul would harass anyone who called 911.

But on the flip side could the whistleblower pee in Rand’s bourbon if the President thought it advanced the national interest because I think Rand Paul drinking pee advances that.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:20:28pm

re: #374 Disloyal Archangel

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Mueller: “If we could have exonerated President Trump we would have.”

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:20:53pm

re: #383 Belafon

Living nose deep in the muck, smears are the tool.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:21:25pm

re: #385 Barefoot Grin

Mueller: “If we could have exonerated President Trump we would have.”

I think Trump just heard the word exonerated and thought he was clear.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:21:28pm
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:21:41pm

re: #342 Chrysicat

Though I hadn’t thought about this:

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He still did a brave thing. It was nonetheless very much the wrong thing and if he had to acquit on one article, Article I would have been the better one for just the reason “Independent Justice” pointed out. He’s still making the President a king, since Congress can’t investigate any allegation.

i know this is an unpopular point of view
and it will be an uphill battle when it comes

nevertheless

what happened in the impeachment trial re article 2 may be a ‘precedent’

it is not a precedent and can (and probably will) be clawed back.
possibly when the R’s try to do it to a D president

in any event there is no stare decisis in the constitution w/r/t impeachments

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:24:40pm

re: #388 jaunte

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And if you think Trump is going to take those reveals quietly, nope.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:24:52pm

re: #362 Charles Johnson

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nancy et al knew this day was coming, just as we all did

i wonder what their plan is
because if they have one, they hatched it way back before they embarked on this

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:25:21pm

re: #365 Targetpractice

What exactly did Trump “win”?

- The best one can argue about his approval rating is that it has rebounded to where it began last September, much like it did during the Clinton impeachment, but that still leaves him underwater and experiencing (at best) a dead-cat bounce. So the assertions that impeachment would make him more popular are shredded

- Despite all the assertions that he’d be better set to win reelection, he’s still trailing in most election projections. And all those projections assume the economy stays the same or experiences approval no greater than what has already happened. So if the economy tanks in the next 9 months, then he’s fucked.

- The predictions that impeachment would be wildly unpopular and he’d benefit from such? Nope, the best the Repubs have managed is polls showing impeach/removal within the margin of error, there has never been a point in the proceedings where people were as opposed as they were by the time the Clinton “trial” concluded.

- And the final indignity is that all of the above likely explains why he will be the only president in history to have a member of his own party vote for his conviction, while not a single member of the opposition party voted for “acquittal” like 10 Republicans did for Clinton. So while he’ll try to insist (despite the evidence) that the conviction vote was “partisan,” the one thing he can’t do without leading to laughter is insist that his “acquittal” was “bipartisan.”

post impeachment dead cat bounce is all

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:26:38pm

Thank you Senator Romney. And kudos to the Democratic Senators in blood red states like Jones and Manchin.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:27:27pm

re: #393 Patricia Kayden

Thank you Senator Romney. And kudos to the Democratic Senators in blood red states like Jones and Manchin.

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Sinema and Tester in too. They stood together.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:27:45pm

re: #359 jaunte

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Seb obviously has no idea how hot some guys are in skirts/kilts.

of course, he isn’t one of those hot guys and never will be…

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:28:38pm

re: #374 Disloyal Archangel

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‘bipartisan’ only if you mean both parties got to vote
oh, and ‘not removed’ is not nearly ‘vindicated’

remember your own party has stated out loud that they think you did it but you shouldnt be removed so close to an election.

that may be ‘vindication’ but it aint vindication

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:29:08pm

re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth

Seb obviously has no idea how hot some guys are in skirts/kilts.

of course, he isn’t one of those hot guys and never will be…

and do not get me started on guys in pajamas….yowser

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:29:12pm

re: #376 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Acquitted only because the founders never considered that a guy like McConnell would run the Senate.

and that his party would blindly follow

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:30:09pm

re: #371 Targetpractice

Absolutely, he’s going to try again because A) he thinks Dems will shy away from further investigations/impeachment now that he’s “beat” them, B) knows that Senate Repubs won’t ever vote to convict him, and C) that the public will take his side if the Dems do try to impeach him again.

A) Adam Schiff has already announced more investigations.

B) True enough, I fear.

C) Why would you assume that? 71% thought there should be witnesses, after all. They might be eager to hear more.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:30:28pm

Gorka is just another cowardly follower, inciting the mob.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:30:41pm

re: #396 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

Vindicated*

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unproven innocence  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:31:15pm

Hope this is not inappropriate:

Beethoven “Moonlight Sonata” for Old Elephant

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:31:28pm

re: #109 Targetpractice

Ayeah, consider how he’s spent weeks boasting that not a single Republican in the House voted to impeach him and there were Democrats who even voted against it. That was what he expected to do after today, go around boasting that he’d sailed through the entire way without a single defection and thus the entire thing had been “partisan” from start to finish. It’s not going to stop him from claiming that the whole thing was “partisan,” but after today it certainly stops him from insisting that not a single Republican voted against him.

Fox will put a (D-Mormon) after Romney’s picture and Trump will claim it anyways.

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Kilroy was here  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:31:40pm

Liberal Redneck - Pelosi Disrespects Trump
NWS

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:31:47pm

re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth

Seb obviously has no idea how hot some guys are in skirts/kilts.

of course, he isn’t one of those hot guys and never will be…

my nephew-in-law and his wedding party (the men) will all be in kilts next october

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:32:31pm

The only good thing about all of this is finally we can stop pretending that the mythical “they” is going to save us from Trump. The superheros aren’t coming so let’s just select a candidate and get on with it. It’s all up to us now.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:32:49pm

re: #401 Eclectic Cyborg

Vindicated*

eggzacto

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:33:49pm

Just heard that Kirk Douglas has died. Sad.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:34:38pm

re: #406 Skip Intro

The only good thing about all of this is finally we can stop pretending that the mythical “they” is going to save us from Trump. The superheros aren’t coming so let’s just select a candidate and get on with it. It’s all up to us now.

and the R’s have removed all doubt about exactly what they are

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Dread Pirate  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:37:08pm

re: #409 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

and the R’s have removed all doubt about exactly what they are

RICO conspirators.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:37:28pm

re: #408 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Just heard that Kirk Douglas has died. Sad.

Sad but in times like that you gotta think of the life lived too. The man saw a lot. Hopefully he gets a nice tribute at the Oscars.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:37:51pm

re: #406 Skip Intro

The only good thing about all of this is finally we can stop pretending that the mythical “they” is going to save us from Trump. The superheros aren’t coming so let’s just select a candidate and get on with it. It’s all up to us now.

Yep, time to find a nominee to take this guy on.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:38:38pm

Just a reminder!

Trump got 52 votes to acquit on all counts BUT BILL CLINTON GOT 55 VOTES TO ACQUIT ON ALL COUNTS.

TRUMP STILL GOT FEWER VOTES THAN A CLINTON DID!!!!!!!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:40:20pm

re: #413 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just a reminder!

Trump got 52 votes to acquit on all counts BUT BILL CLINTON GOT 55 VOTES TO ACQUIT ON ALL COUNTS.

TRUMP STILL GOT FEWER VOTES THAN A CLINTON DID!!!!!!!

52 on count 1, 53 on numero two. But yes. More people voted for the imepachment than tehy did Clinton’s too. That’s gotta sting him.

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BeachDem  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:40:38pm

re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth

Seb obviously has no idea how hot some guys are in skirts/kilts.

of course, he isn’t one of those hot guys and never will be…

I’m excited because if Mitt is a millennial then so am I!!

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:40:49pm

re: #405 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

my nephew-in-law and his wedding party (the men) will all be in kilts next october

klys had a thing about kilts! Miss her!

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Dread Pirate  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:44:41pm
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BeachDem  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:46:59pm

Such adults:

White House statement: “Only the President’s political opponents - all Democrats, and one failed Republican presidential candidate - voted for the manufactured impeachment articles.”

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William Lewis  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:48:49pm

re: #405 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

my nephew-in-law and his wedding party (the men) will all be in kilts next october

I keep thinking about getting 511’s tactical kilt to wear during my sword drills. :D

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:50:51pm

re: #418 BeachDem

Such adults:

White House statement: “Only the President’s political opponents - all Democrats, and one failed Republican presidential candidate - voted for the manufactured impeachment articles.”

One failed Republican presidential candidate who got a higher percentage of the vote abc didn’t cry to Vlad fir help

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:51:31pm

re: #334 Chrysicat

I wouldn’t bet on it. I’ve already seen a tweet from her basically condemning him to hell for doing that. OTOH, it’s a very good thing for Mitt that the king will probably be dead by 2024 because if Trump’s alive, he’ll bankroll multiple primary challengers.

And that’s assuming that he doesn’t have the party reworked in such a way that it’s illegal to declare oneself a Republican without a membership card and then deny one to Mitt.

Mitt did the bravest thing he ever has in his life. And it’s likely to cost him his extended family.

Trump wouldn’t personally bankroll *any* of them. It’s not how the grift works.

He’d simply voice approval for anyone else using *their* money to do it.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:52:36pm

I expect someone to say that the vote was partisan because anyone voting to remove cannot ever be a Republican.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:55:49pm
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Sherlock Hound  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:55:56pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:56:08pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:56:50pm

re: #423 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Oh no! Hell of a good run though.

Kirk Douglas, Indomitable Icon of Hollywood’s Golden Age, Dies at 103

And I was beginning to think he’d live forever. That pretty much closes the book on the Golden Age of Hollywood.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:57:40pm

re: #425 Sherlock Hound

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:58:28pm

re: #427 Eclectic Cyborg

And I was beginning to think he’d live forever. That pretty much closes the book on the Golden Age of Hollywood.

No, I think Olivia de Haviland is still alive.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:58:47pm

re: #426 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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b.d. (Is Rush Dead Yet?)  Feb 5, 2020 • 3:59:44pm

re: #423 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Oh no! Hell of a good run though.

Kirk Douglas, Indomitable Icon of Hollywood’s Golden Age, Dies at 103

The story has it that a gypsy put a curse on Kirk 90 years ago and he was bound to this earthly existence until one Republican did an honorable thing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:00:07pm

re: #429 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

No, I think Olivia de Haviland is still alive.

And you would be correct. Wow, I had no idea. She also happens to be 103.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:01:39pm

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SteelPH  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:02:15pm

re: #434 Eclectic Cyborg

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Disloyal Archangel  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:02:18pm

I’m going off Twitter for a while. Trump’s crappy tweets keep flooding everything, and it’s a miracle I haven’t posted 50 replies to his BS by now.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:03:00pm

re: #433 SteelPH

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Disloyal Archangel  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:05:17pm

re: #433 SteelPH

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:05:28pm

re: #402 unproven innocence

Hope this is not inappropriate:

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That was beautiful. Thank you.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:07:58pm

re: #410 Dread Pirate

RICO conspirators.

I see them in the same vein as the all white juries during the Jim Crow era who acquitted klansmen of lynchings even though the accused boasted about it.

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:09:42pm

re: #440 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

I see them in the same vein as the all white juries during the Jim Crow era who acquitted klansmen of lynchings even though the accused boasted about it.

Same genetic strain.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:10:51pm

re: #438 Disloyal Archangel

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:10:58pm

re: #440 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

I see them in the same vein as the all white juries during the Jim Crow era who acquitted klansmen of lynchings even though the accused boasted about it.

There’s a bunch of ignorant people who just think Jim Crow was separate but equal. Was worse than that. Black people had to flee the South and I hope our Jewish members aren’t offended by this analogy but in a way very similar to how Jews fled the Russian Empire. Isabel Wilkerson’s The Warmth of Other Suns was a fascinating read about the Great Migration.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:11:05pm

re: #424 Dread Pirate

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The desperate attempt to equate the paper to the people mentioned therein is really something. The fauxest of faux outrages.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:12:48pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:12:56pm

re: #433 SteelPH

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:14:05pm

This is the other big lie (David Brooks’ tweet). One that Mitch himself told today in his press conference.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:16:01pm

re: #447 Barefoot Grin

This is the other big lie (David Brooks’ tweet). One that Mitch himself told today in his press conference.

It’s why Trump’s constant complaints of a Do Nothing Congress fail all the time and the constant crap that THE DEMOCRATS HATE ME. I follow my Rep on Twitter and I feel bad for her staff since she has the bots and Trumpcultits but she always posts stuff about what she’s doing. I’m definitely hoping that the Virginia side of the campaign is in coordination with the congressional and also our senate campaign. No idea who the Republicans are going to run against Warner but safe to say he’s favored right now.

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:16:23pm

re: #447 Barefoot Grin

This is the other big lie (David Brooks’ tweet). One that Mitch himself told today in his press conference.

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One year, anyway. Before that, the House and Senate were on the same page with the WH.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:16:40pm
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:17:15pm

re: #447 Barefoot Grin

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:18:17pm
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Mike Lamb  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:18:32pm

re: #447 Barefoot Grin

This is the other big lie (David Brooks’ tweet). One that Mitch himself told today in his press conference.

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I mean, good Christ, Mueller was appointed by Sessions. Fuck Brooks.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:19:22pm

re: #453 Mike Lamb

I mean, good Christ, Mueller was appointed by Sessions. Fuck Brooks.

Brooks is Exhibit A for why Americans hate pundits. Wish the Onion had spoofed him back in the day.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:19:35pm

re: #452 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Oh?

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:21:09pm

re: #449 retired cynic

One year, anyway. Before that, the House and Senate were on the same page with the WH.

Yes, someone pointed out Susan’s error—13 months.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:21:21pm

re: #447 Barefoot Grin

This is the other big lie (David Brooks’ tweet). One that Mitch himself told today in his press conference.

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And of course, it still presumes that Trump and the GOP are good faith, rationale actors, despite all evidence to teh contrary.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:21:36pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:24:40pm

This reply is pretty much exactly what I am thinking.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:30:33pm

OK I just hit my Chris Matthews limit…where is that remote…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:32:40pm

re: #460 Jebediah, RBG

OK I just hit my Chris Matthews limit…where is that remote…

Chris had me tuning away from MSNBC immediately after the Dem SOTU response last night.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:36:20pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:36:53pm

re: #461 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Chris had me tuning away from MSNBC immediately after the Dem SOTU response last night.

My limit just now was when he started saying Pelosi wasn’t smart ripping up the speech, that getting in the gutter with him “isn’t working for you!”
Oh yeah? It’s working for me, tweety, and so is my mute button.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:38:09pm

re: #462 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:38:09pm

OH HAI. We are back in The D. It is 27° here but at least we got in ahead of the snowstorm that’s coming tonight.

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:39:17pm

re: #465 The Pie Overlord!

OH HAI. We are back in The D. It is 27° here but at least we got in ahead of the snowstorm that’s coming tonight.

Welcome back. Hope Z’s foot is better.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:39:42pm

re: #462 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

The deep division was created by your party and that cancer-infested tub of lard your President honored last night, “Senator.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:39:59pm

re: #466 retired cynic

Welcome back. Hope Z’s foot is better.

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retired cynic  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:41:09pm

re: #468 The Pie Overlord!

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:41:15pm

re: #463 Jebediah, RBG

My limit just now was when he started saying Pelosi wasn’t smart ripping up the speech, that getting in the gutter with him “isn’t working for you!”
Oh yeah? It’s working for me, tweety, and so is my mute button.

What worked for me was that she divided the speech in half and tore it up twice making sure that all of the sheets were aligned by thumping it on her desk while looking at Trump’s flanged wings of barely-there hair jutting from the back of his empty head.

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stpaulbear  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:42:00pm

re: #425 Sherlock Hound

A Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient asserts that disabled people are nothing more than political pawns. Shameful and harmful.
RT-R*sh Limbaugh claims Democrats “go out and they find disabled people” like Greta Thunberg and Michael J. Fox mediamatters.org …

Trump’s Medal of Fiefdom.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:42:15pm
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gocart mozart  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:46:33pm

re: #384 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

But on the flip side could the whistleblower pee in Rand’s bourbon

Whether there is pee in Rand’s bourbon should be left up to the marketplace to decide. If he gets sick, it should be his choice whether he want’s to continue to buy that brand. There should be no law against it though because that would be tyranny. This rule only applies to libertarians.

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gocart mozart  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:47:08pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:49:12pm

So the Iowa Democratic caucus counters are up to 86%… maybe they will be done after all, before NH laps them??

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Mescalero09  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:50:43pm

Kirk Douglas has passed. I can hear him screaming “I’m Spartacus!”
Time and tide, and at 103 he had quite a ride.

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Disloyal Archangel  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:50:44pm

re: #442 Belafon

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:51:01pm

re: #468 The Pie Overlord!

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fern01  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:51:15pm

re: #170 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

It’s not a bug, it’s a feature

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:51:25pm

re: #475 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So the Iowa Democratic caucus counters are up to 86%… maybe they will be done after all, before NH laps them??

It too two weeks for the 2012 caucus to determine the GOP winner.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:52:19pm
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BeachDem  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:56:27pm

re: #462 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:58:05pm
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Semper Fi  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:58:29pm

re: #468 The Pie Overlord!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:58:42pm
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Patricia Kayden  Feb 5, 2020 • 4:59:03pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 5, 2020 • 5:01:22pm

Almost all Republicans now are dependent upon Trump’s deplorables in order to get re-elected.

Romney is one of the very few Republicans who doesn’t need them.

So this move by Romney, though on the surface is the high ground, was for him a rather low-priced stand.

Murkowski - remember in the last election she ran as an independent because one of the idiot Trumper types manipulate the AK GOP. She beat him and the Democrat. Maybe she feels she couldn’t pull off the same stunt twice.

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BeachDem  Feb 5, 2020 • 5:03:08pm

re: #480 Belafon

It too two weeks for the 2012 caucus to determine the GOP winner.

And even then, nobody was sure they got it right.

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gocart mozart  Feb 5, 2020 • 5:04:28pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2020 • 5:04:49pm

I keep seeing that Trump was acquitted. But was he, really?

In criminal trials, the verdict of the jury must be unanimous, either to convict or acquit. If that bar isn’t reached, and the state opts not to retry, the defendant has not really been acquitted. He still has the benefit of the presumption of innocence in the law, but failure to convict is not the same as acquittal.

In impeachment trials, the threshold for conviction is 2/3. Shouldn’t that also be the threshold for acquittal?

Sure, if you don’t get 2/3, the accused isn’t convicted, but he’s not exonerated, either.

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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2020 • 5:13:26pm

re: #491 Blind Frog Belly White

By tomorrow’s press bragger he’s going to be unimpeached too.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 5, 2020 • 5:14:35pm

Sort of OT but not exactly: I just got three pieces of mail from our so-called president. All three pieces have my name spelled incorrectly. DT has truly pissed me off. Not only will he not get my vote but I am thinking of sending back said pieces of mail saying said person does not exist. I cannot think of anything else to do at the moment.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 5, 2020 • 5:14:48pm

Jesus, that video is objectively fucking insane.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 5, 2020 • 5:15:13pm

Damn damning

Sherrod Brown (D-OH): “In private, many of my colleagues agree that the president is reckless and unfit. They admit his lies. And they acknowledge what he did was wrong. They know this president has done things Richard Nixon never did. And they know that more damning evidence is likely to come out.”

“So watching the mental contortions they perform to justify their votes is painful to behold: They claim that calling witnesses would have meant a never-ending trial. They tell us they’ve made up their minds, so why would we need new evidence? They say to convict this president now would lead to the impeachment of every future president — as if every president will try to sell our national security to the highest bidder.”

“I have asked some of them, ‘If the Senate votes to acquit, what will you do to keep this president from getting worse?’ Their responses have been shrugs and sheepish looks.”

Profiles in courage

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 5, 2020 • 5:16:46pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 5, 2020 • 5:18:43pm

re: #494 goddamnedfrank

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Jesus, that video is objectively fucking insane.

Did they seriously accuse him of being a Democratic spy? Glad he’s taking this well tho.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 5, 2020 • 5:22:50pm

re: #493 PhillyPretzel

Sort of OT but not exactly: I just got three pieces of mail from our so-called president. All three pieces have my name spelled incorrectly. DT has truly pissed me off. Not only will he not get my vote but I am thinking of sending back said pieces of mail saying said person does not exist. I cannot think of anything else to do at the moment.

If they included a postage paid return envelope, tape a brick to it and mail it back.

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fern01  Feb 5, 2020 • 5:27:01pm

re: #334 Chrysicat

I wouldn’t bet on it. I’ve already seen a tweet from her basically condemning him to hell for doing that. OTOH, it’s a very good thing for Mitt that the king will probably be dead by 2024 because if Trump’s alive, he’ll bankroll multiple primary challengers.

And that’s assuming that he doesn’t have the party reworked in such a way that it’s illegal to declare oneself a Republican without a membership card and then deny one to Mitt.

Mitt did the bravest thing he ever has in his life. And it’s likely to cost him his extended family.

Trump bankrolls nothing - he will con someone into doing the bankrolling - it won’t be Donald.

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cat-tikvah  Feb 5, 2020 • 8:16:28pm

re: #372 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

My favorite was the supposedly libertarian and skeptical of too powerful government Rand Paul saying the name of the alleged WBer but then again I’ve always thought Rand and his father were both frauds when it came to liberties when push came to shove. Both of them have some rotten stuff in their closets.

I was in the Senate office buildings today and Rand Paul walked right by me and I said “Outing the whistleblower was shameful!” He didn’t respond. I’d like to mention that his Senate office is the ONLY one that keeps its door locked.


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