Richie Kotzen in His Kitchen: “As You Are” (Official Self Quarantine Music Video)

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This is the Official (corona virus era) Music Video
for the Richie Kotzen song ‘As You Are’
Taken From the 2020 Release ’50 for 50’
Directed by Julia Lage
Edited by Richie Kotzen

Side Note… Please take no offense to the middle finger at the camera.
It is a gesture not to you the viewer but to the situation at the time of
this filming.

AS YOU ARE
(WORDS AND MUSIC BY RICHIE KOTZEN)

YOU AINT GOT TO PLAY NO GAMES WITH ME BABY
YOU DON’T EVER NEED TO CHANGE
AINT GONNA PLAY NO ROLL WE AINT ACTIN
YOU GONNA MAKE MISTAKES BUT I GOTCHA
AINT GONNA SLEEP ALONE
I’M TAKIN TIME I’M PLANING ON LIVING IT UP

ROLL ROLL WITH ME I’M IN FLOW WITH YA
YOU ALL READY KNOW

NO ONE UNDERSTANDS YOU LIKE I DO
I SEE YOU AS YOU ARE NOT AS I AM
NO ONE UNDERSTANDS ME LIKE YOU DO
I KNOW YOU SEE ME AS I AM AND NOT AS YOU ARE

I AINT GOTTA WATCH MY BACK CUZ YA GOT ME
YOU DON’T NEED FOR ME TO CHANGE
YOU WONT EVER PULL THE PLUG CUZ YOU’RE POWER
YOU LISTEN TO ME
I’M GONNA MAKE MISTAKES BUT YOU GOT ME
I’LL NEVER DIE ALONE
I’M TRUSTIN US NOW LETS GET TO LIVIN IT UP

ROLL ROLL WITH ME I’M IN FLOW WITH YA
YOU ALL READY KNOW YEA YEA

NO ONE UNDERSTANDS YOU LIKE I DO
I SEE YOU AS YOU ARE NOT AS I AM
NO ONE UNDERSTANDS ME LIKE YOU DO
I KNOW YOU SEE ME AS I AM AND NOT AS YOU ARE

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286 comments
1
Belafon  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:16:09pm

I bought a page of Scooby Doo stamps, and a page of Sesame Street stamps. That out to last me until about 2025.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:20:58pm

re: #1 Belafon

I bought a page of Scooby Doo stamps, and a page of Sesame Street stamps. That out to last me until about 2025.

A novel idea: Write letters to friends and family. People still like getting physical letters.

Or you can use them for the “Postcards to Voters” campaign.

3
Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:22:09pm

A good read:

US’s global reputation hits rock-bottom over Trump’s coronavirus response (The Guardian)

International relations expert warns policy failure could do lasting damage as president insults allies and undermines alliances

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:23:47pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹🏡

A novel idea: Write letters to friends and family. People still like getting physical letters.

Or you can use them for the “Postcards to Voters” campaign.

My son and I joked about sending texts via mail. One small message at a time.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:24:34pm

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹🏡

A good read:

US’s global reputation hits rock-bottom over Trump’s coronavirus response (The Guardian)

International relations expert warns policy failure could do lasting damage as president insults allies and undermines alliances

Could? COULD?

Yeah. Ok.

6
Belafon  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:25:21pm

I actually don’t have many friends. And the family I want to be in contact with lives near me.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:26:17pm

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Our global reputation was in the shitter long before Coronavirus thanks to that asshole.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:26:20pm

One of my goals for this year was to make more friends, which is why I was going to the D&D games.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:27:34pm

More sad news…Police chief in my home town of Ambridge PA died from Covid19. He was a good friend of Dad’s.

😢

Now that makes 6 people I know who have contracted Covid 19. 4 died, 1 survived, 1 on a respirator…

Fuck You, Trump!

10
Belafon  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:28:35pm

re: #5 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Could? COULD?

Yeah. Ok.

Almost all of them are waiting on November, but if each month takes a year to get through, they could finally have to decide to find a different partner to take care of themselves.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:31:29pm

re: #10 Belafon

Almost all of them are waiting on November, but if each month takes a year to get through, they could finally have to decide to find a different partner to take care of themselves.

I think that Ship of state has sailed. How could any country trust US again? Trump isn’t the disease, Republicanism is. Trump is the manifestation.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:31:46pm
13
Belafon  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:32:56pm

re: #12 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Why is that significant?

14
Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:40:01pm

Here’s a puzzle for you folks to work on.

I’ll provide the answers tomorrow…

15
teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:42:38pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:46:04pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon 🌹

1, 10, and 11 are stumping me.

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sagehen  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:49:46pm

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹🏡

A good read:

US’s global reputation hits rock-bottom over Trump’s coronavirus response (The Guardian)

We’ve been coasting for 70 years on the reputation that was at one time well-deserved, earned in WWII and retained for decades after. Obama was able to partially rehabilitate us from W’s damage to that rep, but… now, even if we have a great 4-8 years with the next president, the whole world will be walking on eggshells waiting for us to screw up again. It’ll take at least 4 good presidents in a row for people to even begin to trust us again.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:52:21pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon 🌹

Here’s a puzzle for you folks to work on.

I’ll provide the answers tomorrow…

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I’m just glad they didn’t include The Bollocks.

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sagehen  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:52:44pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon 🌹

Here’s a puzzle for you folks to work on.

I’ll provide the answers tomorrow…

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Some of them are easy; Guns ‘n Roses, the Beatles, Smashing Pumpkins, the Doors.

I’ll have to think awhile on the rest.

OOH!! Led Zeppelin, Alice in Chains…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:52:55pm

re: #13 Belafon

Why is that significant?

I’m assuming something to do with Easter?

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:54:57pm

re: #16 teleskiguy

1, 10, and 11 are stumping me.

11 is melonhead.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:55:32pm

re: #12 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:56:22pm

re: #19 sagehen

Some of them are easy; Guns ‘n Roses, the Beatles, Smashing Pumpkins, the Doors.

I’ll have to think awhile on the rest.

Alice in Chains, Radiohead.

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VegasGolfer  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:57:29pm

re: #21 Belafon

Blind Melon

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:57:46pm

re: #20 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m assuming something to do with Easter?

I’m not getting it, and, unless it’s an allegory for not caring about kids in cages, I’m missing why this is worthy of attention.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2020 • 9:59:04pm

1,3,10 are the ones I don’t get.

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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2020 • 10:00:44pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2020 • 10:01:53pm

re: #27 Belafon

3 is Stone Temple Pilots.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2020 • 10:03:36pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

3 is Stone Temple Pilots.

Thanks. That’s what happens when you get a word stuck in your head. I could only think “rock”. Though I guess you could call a cover band Rock Palace Guards.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 12, 2020 • 10:06:36pm

The Frank Sinatra channel uploaded a tune the other day, which taunts social distancing, sort of:

Frank Sinatra - The Nearness Of You (2020 Mix / Audio)

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William Lewis  Apr 12, 2020 • 10:10:58pm

I think I have them all except #1. Good puzzle.

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ckkatz  Apr 12, 2020 • 10:13:50pm

re: #32 William Lewis

Pearl jam?

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William Lewis  Apr 12, 2020 • 10:17:49pm

re: #33 ckkatz

Pearl jam?

I think you got it :D

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Citizen K  Apr 12, 2020 • 10:21:13pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon 🌹

Here’s a puzzle for you folks to work on.

I’ll provide the answers tomorrow…

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10 and 14 are the ones I’m really not sure on after the seeing some of the other comments. Def Leppard for 10?

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 12, 2020 • 10:28:27pm

re: #16 teleskiguy

1, 10, and 11 are stumping me.

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Citizen K  Apr 12, 2020 • 10:29:31pm

re: #36 Renaissance_Man

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Dread Pirate  Apr 12, 2020 • 10:33:56pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2020 • 10:42:52pm
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41
ckkatz  Apr 12, 2020 • 11:01:17pm

I am guessing that #4 isnt the Atomic Kittens or Cat Power. :)

42
austin_blue  Apr 12, 2020 • 11:07:21pm

re: #111 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So the new cases in the US reported today is the lowest daily total since April 5th.

This is probably more due to the weekend and Easter and those impacting the reporting process than anything else.

Yet I do expect cries of OPEN THE ECONOMY! from those who will jump on this decline as some sort of sign that the danger is past.

<<<>>>

Texas population: 29 million people.

Tests the last two days: 8,815.

Governor Greg “Wheels” Abbot wants to open up the State.

He has absolutely no idea how widespread the plague is in the State. Our testing protocol is an absolute piece of shit.

Meanwhile, churches all over the State had large gatherings of Christians today, worshiping in large groups because they were exempted from social distancing.

Let’s see what it looks like in twenty days.

Meanwhile, the rest of us who have been following the rules here in Austin are going to need to buy food next to people who are infected because they celebrated their Lord’s resurrection.

Rational public health policy has jumped off the springboard, done a double pike with three twists, and belly-flopped into the pool.

43
Dread Pirate  Apr 12, 2020 • 11:11:51pm

Hah, John Oliver found his rat erotica drawing from 1992!

44
Jack Burton  Apr 12, 2020 • 11:23:17pm

re: #42 austin_blue

The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation has been projecting this weekend to be the peak of resource use (number of ICU beds, etc) for the United States. If things are just starting to go down, it lines up with their projections.

That said, IHME says this will only be valid if stay at home orders and social distancing remain in place through most of May and I know all these GOP fuckers in state governments are going to do their best to screw us all.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 12, 2020 • 11:24:11pm

re: #8 Belafon

One of my goals for this year was to make more friends, which is why I was going to the D&D games.

Haha, joke’s on us.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 12, 2020 • 11:24:31pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 12, 2020 • 11:24:51pm

No one’s talking about cancelling ski season next winter. At least, not yet.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 12, 2020 • 11:25:12pm

re: #45 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You left out the / at the end of the private tag ending your message; as such, it’s in the open.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 12, 2020 • 11:25:55pm

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹🏡

You left out the / at the end of the private tag ending your message; as such, it’s in the open.

Was fixed within 30 seconds of posting, but thank you.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 12, 2020 • 11:27:49pm

re: #49 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Was fixed within 30 seconds of posting, but thank you.

You’re welcome.

I’m thinking about putting my mail address in my profile, in case someone is unhinged enough to write me a letter. /s

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Jack Burton  Apr 12, 2020 • 11:28:34pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹🏡

A government function mandated in the constitution.

Every time right wingers whine about loving the Constitution I’m going to throw this in their faces from now until the end of time. Especially if they succeed.

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Targetpractice  Apr 12, 2020 • 11:38:23pm

Elections. Have. Consequences.:

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EPR-radar  Apr 12, 2020 • 11:46:29pm

re: #51 Jack Burton

A government function mandated in the constitution.

Every time right wingers whine about loving the Constitution I’m going to throw this in their faces from now until the end of time. Especially if they succeed.

I have to say this business of the Republicans trying to kill off the USPS right in the middle of a pandemic is surprising.

I mean, I already know Republicans are the murdering scum of the earth, and have wanted to kill off the USPS for decades because their ideology will not permit the existence of a single government success story.

But they have already doomed the USPS with that absurd requirement to fund retirement benefits for 75 years going forward. Surely the ‘sensible’ GOP plan would be a pitifully inadequate temporary USPS support plan that does nothing to deal with the slow poison the GOP has already inflicted on the postal service, but gets them some positive coverage in the both-sides press.

If Republicans have decided they no longer need to pretend to be civilized, things will get very ugly very quickly.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 12, 2020 • 11:49:58pm

re: #53 EPR-radar

This is totally unrelated but I was right on the name, dammit.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 12, 2020 • 11:53:05pm

Who are these douchecanoes with their “Ban Karen, it’s as bad as the N-word” nonsense, anyway?

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EPR-radar  Apr 12, 2020 • 11:53:05pm

re: #54 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This is totally unrelated but I was right on the name, dammit.

I’m old enough to appreciate these small triumphs of memory.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 12, 2020 • 11:54:02pm

re: #56 EPR-radar

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Targetpractice  Apr 12, 2020 • 11:56:24pm

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Who are these douchecanoes with their “Ban Karen, it’s as bad as the N-word” nonsense, anyway?

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Can’t speak for all, but the ones I’ve seen tend to be young, white guys engaged in what we used to call back in the day “white knighting.”

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EPR-radar  Apr 13, 2020 • 12:05:16am

re: #57 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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EPR-radar  Apr 13, 2020 • 12:06:41am

re: #44 Jack Burton

The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation has been projecting this weekend to be the peak of resource use (number of ICU beds, etc) for the United States. If things are just starting to go down, it lines up with their projections.

That said, IHME says this will only be valid if stay at home orders and social distancing remain in place through most of May and I know all these GOP fuckers in state governments are going to do their best to screw us all.

With ‘president’ Scalding Jet of Liquid Feces leading this pack of Republicans morons.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 13, 2020 • 12:07:53am

Off to watch more uplifting television to take my mind away from our conservative dystopian hellscape (“Dark Shadows”)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 13, 2020 • 12:09:37am

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Who are these douchecanoes with their “Ban Karen, it’s as bad as the N-word” nonsense, anyway?

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Satirists?

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 13, 2020 • 12:19:53am

re: #16 teleskiguy

1, 10, and 11 are stumping me.

Click to Reveal

11 is Blind Melon maybe?

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 13, 2020 • 12:20:42am

Seriously, if that footage of a line of ambulances in Moscow had been around when Zack Snyder remade Dawn of the Dead back in 2004, he probably would’ve put it in the opening credits montage.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 13, 2020 • 12:24:29am
Click to Reveal

10 could be Steppenwolf? Shit’s inscrutable

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 12:35:02am

re: #8 Belafon

One of my goals for this year was to make more friends, which is why I was going to the D&D games.

not easy once one reaches a certain age. I am putting a great deal of effort into at least maintaining contact with existing friends.

Had to cut off contact with a very old buddy of 25 years or more as the Corona crisis really brought out his inner Fascist and I just could not deal with him any more.

Another buddy has been going through 4 bottles of whiskey a week since I have known him, nearly ten years, so now, 2,000+ bottles later, his brains are so pickled that it is also difficult to have a conversation with him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 12:39:28am

re: #52 Targetpractice

I have signed legislation that repeals Virginia’s voter ID law, makes Election Day a state holiday, and expands access to early voting. Voting is a fundamental right—these laws strengthen our democracy by making it easier to cast a ballot, not harder.

GOP are already planning to “uncover” examples of “massive voter fraud” in VA and/or any other states that try to expand access to voting.

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LadyBehir  Apr 13, 2020 • 12:54:54am

10 is Panther? Something like that. I don’t know the band but saw this game a while ago. Thought it looked like a smooshed Nittany Lion so I was trying to work that as a band name somehow.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 12:57:46am

re: #68 LadyBehir

10 is Panther? Something like that. I don’t know the band but saw this game a while ago. Thought it looked like a smooshed Nittany Lion so I was trying to work that as a band name somehow.

Pantera?

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LadyBehir  Apr 13, 2020 • 1:07:41am

maybe. Something like that. I don’t know bands.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 13, 2020 • 1:19:23am

Nebraska has 23 new cases tonight after today’s final count.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 13, 2020 • 1:26:05am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 1:28:58am

Germany has just passed 3,000 deaths and 127K cases. Good news is that at least 60K cases are reported recovered and the rate of doubling is now well over 10 days.

Weather has turned crappy today, but the balmy Easter weather did not induce too many people to get out and congregate to any dangerous extent.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 13, 2020 • 3:52:03am

We’re just starting to see the global economic fallout of this pandemic:

The Yiwu International Trade Market has always been renowned as a window into the vitality of Chinese manufacturing, crammed with stalls showcasing everything from flashlights to machine parts.

But today, as the coronavirus pandemic rips through the global economy, it offers a strikingly different picture - the dismal effect Covid-19 is having on the nation’s exports.
The usually bustling wholesale market, home to some 70,000 vendors supplying 1,700 different types of manufactured goods, is a shadow of its former self.

Only a handful of foreign buyers traipse through aisles of the sprawling 4-million-square-metre (43 million square feet) complex, while store owners - with no customers to tend to - sit hunched over their phones or talking in small groups.

scmp.com

I think even the recent OPEC/Russia deal to decrease production isn’t going to have that much of an impact, because if indeed we’re really headed into another Great Depression (as the IMF is forecasting*) oil demand is gonna tank anyway.

*time.com

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Decatur Deb  Apr 13, 2020 • 3:54:45am

What happens when you cross Francis of Assisi and Frantz Fanon?

In Easter message, Pope Francis proposes universal basic income
americamagazine.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 3:55:49am

re: #74 Dr Lizardo

We’re just starting to see the global economic fallout of this pandemic:

What is the point of holding a trade fair to introduce new products when you are not sure that suppliers will be able to deliver them on time?

Everything is on hold, and our entire economy, especially in branches like electronics and fashion, is all about keeping up a flood of new products on the market to displace the old

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 4:17:42am

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 4:24:39am

oh dear (from politicalwire.com)

White House adviser Peter Navarro was combative 60 Minutes last night and issued a specific challenge.

Said Navarro: “I challenge you: Show me the 60 Minutes episode a year ago, two years ago, or during the Obama administration, during the Bush administration, that said, ‘Hey, global pandemic’s coming, you gotta do X, Y, and Z, and by the way, we would shut down the entire global economy to fight it.’ Show me that episode, then you’ll have some credence in terms of attacking the Trump administration for not being prepared.”

Well, roll the videotape.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 4:30:41am

re: #78 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Said Navarro: “I challenge you: Show me the 60 Minutes episode a year ago, two years ago, or during the Obama administration, during the Bush administration, that said, ‘Hey, global pandemic’s coming, you gotta do X, Y, and Z, and by the way, we would shut down the entire global economy to fight it.’ Show me that episode, then you’ll have some credence in terms of attacking the Trump administration for not being prepared.”

and this is why there is no point in broadcasting these people live: you have to have a chance to go disprove the blatant lies these people are spreading.

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Teukka  Apr 13, 2020 • 4:42:51am

re: #78 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

oh dear (from politicalwire.com)

Well, that return of fire was quick…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 13, 2020 • 4:46:45am

This pandemic is surely bringing several things to the surface.

But how people will react is still a question in my mind.

Once again it needs repeating - until a vaccine is available, the lethality of SARS-Cov-2 is enough to see many, many people die.

All the projections such as from IHME are predicated on active mitigation and suppression techniques. If we just through up our hands and give up any suppression efforts, then we are just going to accept more deaths.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 13, 2020 • 4:49:09am

re: #81 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Gotta get those nail spas open.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 13, 2020 • 4:52:26am

The so-called “Red Dawn” E-mail chain of physicians and public health officials reaches into Nebraska:

CDC ‘really missing the mark’: Emails show UNMC doc concerned by federal virus response​ (Goes to the Omaha World-Herald, UNMC is the University of Nebraska Medical Center, more at the link):

Weeks before the novel coronavirus hit Nebraska, medical experts from around the nation communicated regularly by email, pondering the severity of the outbreak, sharing frustrations and planning for the worst.

The chain of emails includes several messages from Dr. James Lawler, a director in the University of Nebraska Medical Center’s Global Center for Health Security, who worked with Gov. Pete Ricketts to develop Nebraska’s pandemic plan.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 4:54:02am

re: #82 Decatur Deb

Gotta get those nail spas open.

There is a need to keep the economy afloat, to ensure that people have income to cover at least the necessities of life, but there is a broad range of options short of “just re-open everything and take the ‘occasional’ loss of life as unavoidable collateral damage”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 13, 2020 • 5:02:38am

re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The number of cases in the US have been rising somewhat linearly the past couple of weeks. I suspect this has more to do with testing limitations and the reporting process than the actual spread of the virus.

Where we, the US, really failed is in not recognizing the need for massive testing in January, so the test producing capability (which rests more on the reagent production than anything to do with kits) could be large enough by now to test everybody.

Without having a sure way to know who is infected we can’t be sure of who needs to be quarantined.

Without knowing who to quarantine, we all have to stay home to avoid contact.

Thus the “economy” (as if there really is such a thing outside of people) is shut down.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 5:04:56am

re: #85 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

yes, and that shows where our priorities need to be placed. Trump made it clear from the outset that he was fine with fudging the statistics to make things look better, and that seems to be reflected in the policies that we have been implementing (or neglecting) since.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 13, 2020 • 5:05:32am

Marcy Wheeler wrote an article about the issue on the USS Theodore Roosevelt, and seems to think that military discipline would make it easier to prevent the spread of Covid-19 throughout a vessel.

I tried to point out why that’s not so, but she doubled down on my comment at emptywheel. I took another stab at it, but I doubt she is going to defer to my experience aboard Haze Grey Cruise Line vessels.

emptywheel.net

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 5:13:52am

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Marcy Wheeler wrote an article about the issue on the USS Theodore Roosevelt, and seems to think that military discipline would make it easier to prevent the spread of Covid-19 throughout a vessel.

I could perhaps see that applying to a military installation on land, but not to a warship where people work, eat, and sleep elbow to elbow.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 13, 2020 • 5:15:50am

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I could perhaps see that applying to a military installation on land, but not to a warship where people work, eat, and sleep elbow to elbow.

She was referring specifically to vessels in her article.

I didn’t address the additional problem of the ventilation system on a ship. Shut that down for a significant length of time, you can suffocate people, especially below the waterline.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 5:19:26am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹🏡

She was referring specifically to vessels in her article.

I didn’t address the additional problem of the ventilation system on a ship. Shut that down for a significant length of time, you can suffocate people, especially below the waterline.

Did not check out the article or comments, but that sounds totally clueless

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CarolJ  Apr 13, 2020 • 5:20:20am

Even shore installations don’t give much space to soldiers. It might these days be closer to a college dormitory than the rows of bunks of old, but still it’s close quarters with multiple occupants whose identities can change any day according to deployments and assignments. You don’t have any control over that at all-who they are or when they come. So Marcy is wrong here. And on a ship, you don’t have the benefit of people coming and going all the time outside the camp either. Germs just keep circulating around and around from the same people all the time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 5:22:38am

re: #91 CarolJ

Even shore installations don’t give much space to soldiers.

At least they have the option of spreading service people out to temporary quarters or tents, that option is not really available on a ship.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 13, 2020 • 5:29:03am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Did not check out the article or comments, but that sounds totally clueless

I have no idea why Marcy Wheeler is considered some kind of, any kind of actually, security expert.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 13, 2020 • 5:33:52am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Did not check out the article or comments, but that sounds totally clueless

I get the idea she was trying to advance, that a bunch of civilians on a cruise ship don’t follow orders well. (She also made an ageist shot at people who travel on cruise ships, apparently unaware younger people take cruises as well.)

In the case of the MV Diamond Princess, several people who were told to quarantine themselves in their cabins decided to wander the ship instead.

She also seemed to imply that crewmembers delivering meals and cleaning compartments and such helped spread the virus, without seeming to acknowledge that military vessel crewmembers spend an awful lot of time cleaning as well.

Moreover, despite the military discipline she mentions in that article, that didn’t seem to stop the virus from spreading on the Theodore Roosevelt.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 5:36:09am

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I get the idea she was trying to advance, that a bunch of civilians on a cruise ship don’t follow orders well. (She also made an ageist shot at people who travel on cruise ships, apparently unaware younger people take cruises as well.)

Of course, discipline will not be comparable, but the conditions are the same. Cruise ships are designed to be as cramped as possible to encourage people to get out and spend money at the casinos and shops.

Military ships also devote a minimum to crews to allow more room for military equipment.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 13, 2020 • 5:38:14am

re: #93 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I have no idea why Marcy Wheeler is considered some kind of, any kind of actually, security expert.

I don’t either. The only experience she seems to have in that area is based on her blogging as an accredited journalist during the Scooter Libby trial.

en.wikipedia.org (Marcy Wheeler’s entry)

Because of that, she got invited to write or was interviewed at a lot of left-leaning sites, which then propelled her to places like the Washington Post.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 13, 2020 • 5:45:53am

The Charles DeGaulle, flagship carrier of France, has 50 infected sailors.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 13, 2020 • 5:47:33am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Of course, discipline will not be comparable, but the conditions are the same. Cruise ships are designed to be as cramped as possible to encourage people to get out and spend money at the casinos and shops.

Military ships also devote a minimum to crews to allow more room for military equipment.

My only experience with anything resembling a cruise ship was our ferry trip from Juneau to Prince Rupert. My wife and I had an inboard compartment. Even there, it’s bunk beds and cramped space (the more people you can put on a vessel, the more money you can make).

Outside our tiny compartment, other spaces had lots of people (the galley, the observation deck, &c).

That’s also true of trains: Our trip to Poland we had first class compartments, but those are still pretty small. Getting out of the compartment to do anything more than standing up meant walking down narrow passageways or eating in a relatively small dining car (the only advantage of first class was a broader menu, meals were part of the ticket price, and special hours were set aside for first-class passengers).

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stpaulbear  Apr 13, 2020 • 5:50:55am

re: #1 Belafon

I bought a page of Scooby Doo stamps, and a page of Sesame Street stamps. That out to last me until about 2025.

I’ve been collecting commemorative stamps for quite a while. A couple months ago I bought about $90 worth. I consider them to be art.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 13, 2020 • 5:53:37am

re: #14 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:04:27am

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I don’t either. The only experience she seems to have in that area is based on her blogging as an accredited journalist during the Scooter Libby trial.

en.wikipedia.org (Marcy Wheeler’s entry)

Because of that, she got invited to write or was interviewed at a lot of left-leaning sites, which then propelled her to places like the Washington Post.

Wheeler is one of Jane Hamsher’s crowd from FireDogLake. I have a hard time taking anything Wheeler says seriously.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:04:43am

The sun is up, I’m going to head off to bed.

The church across the street yesterday stuck to their promise: They did not hold services. Easter is usually a pretty big deal for them; they draw in people from all over the place and increase the town populace by about a factor of three for a few hours while they hold services and then a dinner afterwards.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:04:43am

Good morning.

Wet and windy here near Philly. Wind picked up last night and then a lot of rain from the south came in. Enough wind that my upper windows are getting hit directly and thus are closed - which the cats dislike. (Fat Cat has made up for this by dipping into my coffee earlier than she usually does.)

Counties around mine seem to have more cases of COVID-19, but I have not checked if that is scaling with population or not. Friends in western PA seem a bit more blase’ about things, but that area is further back on the curve than here - though they are sheltering in place, practicing distancing, etc.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:06:57am

re: #21 Belafon

11 is melonhead.

I saw it as Blind Melon.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:07:24am

re: #101 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Wheeler is one of Jane Hamsher’s crowd from FireDogLake. I have a hard time taking anything Wheeler says seriously.

I read about Jane Hamsher on Wikipedia. I’ve only heard of FireDogLake in passing; I never viewed the Website.

She seems to have been a real purity pony. Wikipedia’s article on her also talks of a controversy where she was involved in a rodent-copulation campaign against Joe Leiberman where she promoted a digitally-altered photograph of him in blackface.

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makeitstop  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:20:15am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I read about Jane Hamsher on Wikipedia. I’ve only heard of FireDogLake in passing; I never viewed the Website.

She seems to have been a real purity pony. Wikipedia’s article on her also talks of a controversy where she was involved in a rodent-copulation campaign against Joe Leiberman where she promoted a digitally-altered photograph of him in blackface.

Hamsher started the PUMA (Party Unity My Ass) movement after Obama won the nomination over Hillary. And she was one of those people to whom ‘the most dangerous spot to be is between her and a camera’ applied - total publicity hound, and after a while even the people who followed her called her out for that.

And let’s not mention that she teamed up with alleged former spy and terrible haircut victim Larry Johnson (he of the ‘Whitey tape’ hoax) and then really went off into cloud cuckoo land

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:21:10am

I read the section on the military. It didn’t seem quite as bad to me other than describing the Roosevelt as a “fiasco.” Some group had to be first, though.

Nowhere has the challenge of COVID been more dramatic, however, than on the USS Theodore Roosevelt. As the scandal over Captain Theodore Crozier’s removal and the ouster of Navy Secretary Thomas Modly has continued, the Navy has continued to test the entire crew of around 4,800. With 92% tested yesterday, 550 tested positive, meaning 12% of those tested, tested positive. That’s a lower rate than the Diamond Princess’ 19% positive rate, but of a younger and presumably far healthier population, during a period with a higher level of awareness of the virus, and among a population more likely to maintain the discipline of social distancing.

Keeping sailors on a ship from infecting each other is a daunting task, but the military has more resources to conduct evacuation and to conduct contract tracing than any private employer this side of Amazon. As other ships and bases face the challenge in the wake of the Roosevelt fiasco, it will be a measure of whether even the military can catch the virus and contact trace before other big clusters arise.

If the military can’t do it, your average small business isn’t going to be able to pull it off.

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jeffreyw  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:23:01am

Essential Worker

Good morning!

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:23:47am

Do you know how quickly Trump will claim credit for this, especially since a black woman is leading it:

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:29:00am
Stanley Chera, a millionaire friend of Donald Trump’s (and a Republican donor) caught the coronavirus and has been in a coma for weeks. It was announced yesterday that he has now died of COVID-19. He is one of 21,500 Americans who have succumbed to the disease.

Anyone can get it
Anyone can survive it
Anyone can die from it

Even republicans
Even rich people
Even real estate developers
Even rich republican real estate developers

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lawhawk  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:29:30am

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I could perhaps see that applying to a military installation on land, but not to a warship where people work, eat, and sleep elbow to elbow.

Or on submarines where they hot bunk.

Everyone operates in such close quarters on board ships that it’s impossible to adequately provide social distancing.

We see the result with more than 10% of the crew infected, and that number grows daily.

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mmmirele  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:37:06am

re: #110 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Donald Trump has no friends. Or family. Only people he can use.

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Mattand  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:42:23am

re: #112 mmmirele

Donald Trump has no friends. Or family. Only people he can use.

Have to admit, my empathy level bottomed out when I heard this guy was friends with Cheetolini. Maybe I’m wrong, but if you’re traveling in that circle, things like decency and morality are probably not your strong suits.

But, yeah, your comment is spot on. Dude probably went to his grave thinking “At least my friend was President” and Trump is most likely “Who died? Okay, whatever.”

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:45:46am

Is anyone surprised it was all “vaporware”?

From politicalwire.com

One month ago today, President Trump declared a national emergency,” NPR reports.

“In a Rose Garden address, flanked by leaders from giant retailers and medical testing companies, he promised a mobilization of public and private resources to attack the coronavirus… But few of those promises have come to pass.”

“NPR’s Investigations Team dug into each of the claims made from the podium that day. And rather than a sweeping national campaign of screening, drive-through sample collection and lab testing, it found a smattering of small pilot projects and aborted efforts.”

“In some cases, no action was taken at all.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:50:11am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Well. This goes into my end-game capitalism scrapbook.

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lawhawk  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:50:39am

re: #114 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

It’s the Trump/GOP way - claim that you’re doing all these grand measures, and when anyone checks, they find nothing.

It’s the same way Trump claimed to have a health care plan or an infrastructure plan. It was always vaporware and malware. He doesn’t have a policy shop. He’s got a crime syndicate.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:51:04am

re: #107 Belafon

I read the section on the military. It didn’t seem quite as bad to me other than describing the Roosevelt as a “fiasco.” Some group had to be first, though.

The part I objected to is in the part you cited.

That’s a lower rate than the Diamond Princess’ 19% positive rate, but of a younger and presumably far healthier population, during a period with a higher level of awareness of the virus, and among a population more likely to maintain the discipline of social distancing.[emphasis mine]

That ain’t possible on a warship. Anything that’s a large open space on a carrier is used for multiple things (for example, the forward and aft galleys on a carrier are also weapons assembly areas), and there aren’t a whole lot of large open spaces on other types of vessels. (When I was stationed on a guided missile cruiser as an avionics technician, the hanger was stuffed full of equipment, two helicopters, &c).

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:52:19am

re: #108 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Is the essential feline supervisor nearby as well?

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:53:46am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“BioAnal” is just great.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:58:38am

And any moronic response like democrats are wasting time attacking the president’s actions while he’s hard at work trying to find a cure…I’d ask simply what specifically and exactly is the president doing to find a cure that others in his admin can’t attend a hearing or deliver dox.

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makeitstop  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:59:35am

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹🏡

The part I objected to is in the part you cited.

(for example, the forward and aft galleys on a carrier are also weapons assembly areas

I misread that as ‘art galleries’ and thought ‘what a strange thing to have on a ship.’

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:59:43am

re: #114 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Is anyone surprised it was all “vaporware”?

From politicalwire.com

I heard that this morning and thought, “welp, there goes funding for NPR.”

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danarchy  Apr 13, 2020 • 6:59:44am

Is it just me or does this seem a little premature?

Spain loosens coronavirus lockdown, death toll passes 17,000 but pace slows

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:00:52am

re: #123 danarchy

Is it just me or does this seem a little premature?

Spain loosens coronavirus lockdown, death toll passes 17,000 but pace slows

Yeah, that seems unwise.

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Teukka  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:01:32am

re: #124 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, that seems unwise.

*dons flak jacket, brain bucket and tyvek suit, makes “thumbs up” sign*

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:04:21am

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹🏡

The part I objected to is in the part you cited.

That ain’t possible on a warship. Anything that’s a large open space on a carrier is used for multiple things (for example, the forward and aft galleys on a carrier are also weapons assembly areas), and there aren’t a whole lot of large open spaces on other types of vessels. (When I was stationed on a guided missile cruiser as an avionics technician, the hanger was stuffed full of equipment, two helicopters, &c).

My bunks on the Stennis, another Nimitz class carrier, were three high. But, she is right in a sense. The captain could order them in some places to stay as far apart as possible. One of the hard places would be the engine room - the place where the first outbreak occurred - because it runs about 110-140 dB. You had to be pretty close to each other so that you could hear the other person yelling. But, if you can order people to stay as far apart as possible and it still spreads, how are you going to keep people who think it’s their gawd given right to breathe on each other from spreading it?

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makeitstop  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:04:25am

Wilson thinks Fauci’s days are numbered. Thread.

Sadly, I’m inclined to agree. And as bad as Trump has fucked this up so far, the sky’s the limit for fuckup potential if Fauci gets kicked to the curb.

(And again - if Trump fires Fauci, Biden should get him on his team with the quickness.)

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:05:35am

re: #121 makeitstop

I misread that as ‘art galleries’ and thought ‘what a strange thing to have on a ship.’

Video on the Stennis is showing sailors in the craft room - even sailors need hobbies - making masks for the crew.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:06:01am

re: #122 Barefoot Grin

I heard that this morning and thought, “welp, there goes funding for NPR.”

NPR gets almost no funding anymore from the federal government.

While NPR does not receive any direct federal funding, it does receive a small number of competitive grants from CPB and federal agencies like the Department of Education and the Department of Commerce. This funding amounts to approximately 2% of NPR’s overall revenues.[24]

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:09:23am

re: #127 makeitstop

Wilson thinks Fauci’s days are numbered. Thread.

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Sadly, I’m inclined to agree. And as bad as Trump has fucked this up so far, the sky’s the limit for fuckup potential if Fauci gets kicked to the curb.

(And again - if Trump fires Fauci, Biden should get him on his team with the quickness.)

I hadn’t thought of that, but hell yes. On “firing Fauci” it’s running about 98% against, but there’s a growing number of folks with long strings of numbers in their names calling him disloyal and a lunatic.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:14:38am

re: #129 Colère Tueur de Lapin

NPR gets almost no funding anymore from the federal government.

I’m way out of the loop. Thanks. Maybe that’s why we’re about to have another fund drive.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:18:12am

Got our $3,400 relief deposit in our checking account today. Yay!

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:23:09am

re: #127 makeitstop

Wilson thinks Fauci’s days are numbered. Thread.

Sadly, I’m inclined to agree. And as bad as Trump has fucked this up so far, the sky’s the limit for fuckup potential if Fauci gets kicked to the curb.

(And again - if Trump fires Fauci, Biden should get him on his team with the quickness.)

Biden snagging Fauci might be the only thing that keeps him from being fired.

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makeitstop  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:23:29am

Bad news from Japan - a second wave of infections in Hokkaido prefecture.

Japan’s Hokkaido prefecture, which accounted for the country’s highest number of coronavirus infections as the pandemic initially swept through Asia, has seen a sudden uptick in cases, causing government officials there to declare a state of emergency less than a month after lifting a similar order.

The governor of Hokkaido, the country’s northernmost main island and the largest prefecture by size, made the announcement Sunday following nearly a week of double-digit increases in cases in the prefecture, according to Kyodo news service.

“We are facing a crisis of a second wave in the spread of (the coronavirus) infections,” Gov. Naomichi Suzuki told reporters in the capital, Sapporo.

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jeffreyw  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:24:36am

re: #118 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Is the essential feline supervisor nearby as well?

They were technically on shift, but were lingering over coffee.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:25:16am

re: #134 makeitstop

Bad news from Japan - a second wave of infections in Hokkaido prefecture.

What we will be seeing in late May if lots of red states reopen their economies May 1 as Trump wants.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:25:17am

re: #120 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

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And any moronic response like democrats are wasting time attacking the president’s actions while he’s hard at work trying to find a cure…I’d ask simply what specifically and exactly is the president doing to find a cure that others in his admin can’t attend a hearing or deliver dox.

He is promoting hydroxychloroquine like it’s Dr. J. Collis Browne’s Chlorodyne Influenza Tonic.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:30:02am

re: #93 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I have no idea why Marcy Wheeler is considered some kind of, any kind of actually, security expert.

im guessing she, like Navarro* and so many others falls into a category that has become “a mainstay of American culture in the last few decades,” as wrote Nicole Hemmer: the “well-credentialed huckster,” asserting expertise outside their chosen fields

or more generally, anyone who can write a sentence and read a bit is all of a sudden an expert

* who said as a social scientist he’s qualified to review and critique actual, you know, medical science

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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:31:25am

Rawstory: Longtime Trump friend Stanley Chera dies from COVID-19 complications

Stanley Chera, a New York real estate developer and a longtime friend of President Donald Trump, has died from complications related to being infected by COVID-19.

CNN reports that Chera died over the weekend after being hospitalized last month after testing positive for the coronavirus.

Trump in recent weeks has talked about having a friend in a coma due to COVID-19 infection, and sources told the New York Times earlier this month that the friend in question was Chera.

In addition to his career as a real estate developer, Chera was also a significant donor to Trump’s political campaign.

What are the odds that Darth Orange might start taking this damned situation seriously now that someone close to him has died from it?
I’m not holding my breath…

140
makeitstop  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:33:26am

The reviews are in: Trump commits ultimate TV sin with daily briefings — he’s boring

Forever addicted to being in front of television cameras, Trump’s strategy of hosting nonstop White House briefings on the pandemic has sparked a heated media debate about whether the marathon sessions of lies and misinformation ought be carried live on TV every day. (Hint: They absolutely should not be.) Void of empathy and human emotion beyond Trump’s endless desire for political revenge, the news-free briefings now drag on day after day, as Trump rambles through disjointed commentaries about an array of unrelated topics.

Instead of enhancing his stature, the briefings confirm that Trump is guilty of committing that mortal TV sin — he’s boring. And overexposed, hosting more than two dozen pandemic briefings to date. Even his Republican allies think it’s a problem.

Rupert Murdoch’s Wall Street Journal last week mocked the Trump briefings as being a “waste,” and counseled, “If Mr. Trump wants to make his briefings more helpful to the country, here’s our advice. Make them no more than 45 minutes, except on rare occasions.” Meanwhile, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) is urging Trump to cut the briefings back to once a week, Republican Congresswoman Susan Brooks of Indiana complained, “they’re going on too long,” former Fox News anchor Brit Hume suggested Trump start talking less, and former George W. Bush White House staffer Tony Fratto admits, “no one needs two-hour briefings.”

Another instance of Trump undermining his own case due to not knowing when to shut the fuck up.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:34:47am

re: #9 Joe Bacon 🌹

More sad news…Police chief in my home town of Ambridge PA died from Covid19. He was a good friend of Dad’s.

😢

Now that makes 6 people I know who have contracted Covid 19. 4 died, 1 survived, 1 on a respirator…

Fuck You, Trump!

💔

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jeffreyw  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:35:43am

re: #132 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Got our $3,400 relief deposit in our checking account today. Yay!

Made me look! :) I’m seeing it as pending, due to post 15 April.

ACH Deposit IRS TREAS 310 TAX REF

Tax refunds are taxable, usually, but I’ve heard different things: yes they are taxable, no they aren’t, and maybe they are, maybe they aren’t. Is that 4 things, or three?

143
Ace Rothstein  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:37:10am

re: #142 jeffreyw

They’re not taxable.

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ozharas  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:39:23am

The Navy says a sailor on the USS Theodore Roosevelt has died from coronavirus. The ship’s commander was ousted after he wrote a memo that said, in part, “We are not at war. Sailors do not need to die. If we do not act now, we are failing to properly take care” of our sailors.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:39:35am

re: #108 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Greetings from the west!

Waiting for handouts
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:39:48am

OK, folks!

Looks like you did great on the puzzle!

Once again here it is:

And here’s the answers!

1. Pearl Jam
2. Guns and Roses
3. Stone Temple Pilots
4.Queen
5.The Doors
6. Led Zeppelin
7. Radio Head
8. Smashing Pumpkins
9. Alice In Chains
10. Pantera
11. Melonhead
12. Rolling Stones
13. Sex Pistols
14. The Police
15. The Beatles

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:41:35am

re: #127 makeitstop

Wilson thinks Fauci’s days are numbered. Thread.

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Sadly, I’m inclined to agree. And as bad as Trump has fucked this up so far, the sky’s the limit for fuckup potential if Fauci gets kicked to the curb.

(And again - if Trump fires Fauci, Biden should get him on his team with the quickness.)

From today’s electoral-vote.com

The main problem with firing Fauci, which Trump may dimly realize, is that Fauci is 79 and has served six presidents. He has a lot of expertise in the area of infectious diseases and a lot of credibility. He doesn’t have to worry about finding a new job although getting a gig as a contributor on CNN or MSNBC probably wouldn’t be that hard. So far he has been fairly circumspect about saying things like “Trump is directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans” … Once he is terminated, there is nothing to stop him from getting on television regularly to blame Trump in no uncertain terms. Some voters might actually believe him, which wouldn’t be a plus for Trump’s reelection prospects. Lyndon Johnson, who despised FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, never fired him, famously saying: “It is probably better to have him inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in,” but Johnson was a smarter politician than Trump

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:46:15am

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹🏡

The part I objected to is in the part you cited.

That ain’t possible on a warship. Anything that’s a large open space on a carrier is used for multiple things (for example, the forward and aft galleys on a carrier are also weapons assembly areas), and there aren’t a whole lot of large open spaces on other types of vessels. (When I was stationed on a guided missile cruiser as an avionics technician, the hanger was stuffed full of equipment, two helicopters, &c).

Whereas cruise ships have private rooms for the passengers, the crew are mostly two to a room, the decks are mostly clear, and there are multiple large venues.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:46:57am

re: #111 lawhawk

Or on submarines where they hot bunk.

Everyone operates in such close quarters on board ships that it’s impossible to adequately provide social distancing.

We see the result with more than 10% of the crew infected, and that number grows daily.

Not good.

Sailor aboard USS Theodore Roosevelt dies of coronavirus

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:47:39am

re: #121 makeitstop

I misread that as ‘art galleries’ and thought ‘what a strange thing to have on a ship.’

They have them on cruise ships. Of course, everything in them is for sale.

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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:48:33am
152
plansbandc  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:49:10am

re: #127 makeitstop

He’s an expert, he had the audacity to tell the truth, and he contradicted tRump. He’s most definitely gone.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:51:33am

re: #127 makeitstop

Wilson thinks Fauci’s days are numbered. Thread.

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Sadly, I’m inclined to agree. And as bad as Trump has fucked this up so far, the sky’s the limit for fuckup potential if Fauci gets kicked to the curb.

(And again - if Trump fires Fauci, Biden should get him on his team with the quickness.)

If DT fires Fauci, he’s instantly able to speak freely. That might give them pause (in fact, I have wondered if that’s why he’s still there).

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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:51:43am

re: #146 Joe Bacon 🌹

OK, folks!

Looks like you did great on the puzzle!

Once again here it is:

[Embedded content]

And here’s the answers!

1. Pearl Jam
2. Guns and Roses
3. Stone Temple Pilots
4.Queen
5.The Doors
6. Led Zeppelin
7. Radio Head
8. Smashing Pumpkins
9. Alice In Chains
10. Pantera
11. Melonhead
12. Rolling Stones
13. Sex Pistols
14. The Police
15. The Beatles

Satisfied with myself that i got most of them right, but wasn’t even close with 3, 11, and 13 - especially 3 where I guessed the figure to be just about everything other than “pilot”… xD

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fern01  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:53:00am

re: #4 Belafon

My son and I joked about sending texts via mail. One small message at a time.

A couple of my elderly relatives send tweets by mail. 10 at a time.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:54:44am

re: #137 The Pie Overlord!

He is promoting hydroxychloroquine like it’s Dr. J. Collis Browne’s Chlorodyne Influenza Tonic.

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so unless he’s dressed up like ivanka in a simulated lab, im guessing he and his admin def has time for hearings

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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:54:45am

re: #153 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

If DT fires Fauci, he’s instantly able to speak freely. That might give them pause (in fact, I have wondered if that’s why he’s still there).

That’s probably the only reason he’s still there. Firing your only credible health guy in the middle of a nation-wide pandemic is a recipe for disaster at any time for a president, and all the more so in a freaking election year..

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:56:17am

re: #156 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

so unless he’s dressed up like ivanka in a simulated lab, im guessing he and his admin def has time for hearings

Memories of Grandma Bacon telling me of all the “influenza tonics” flooded the market during the 1918 pandemic. Yes, lots of folks were killed by them until the FDA stopped the sales…

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:56:23am

re: #139 Disloyal Archangel

Rawstory: Longtime Trump friend Stanley Chera dies from COVID-19 complications

What are the odds that Darth Orange might start taking this damned situation seriously now that someone close to him has died from it?
I’m not holding my breath…

i’d say not because it was someone ‘close to him’
but because it was someone just like him
republican, real estate developer, rich

and that still wont make him take this situation seriously for anyone other than protecting him and (some of ) his family

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 13, 2020 • 7:59:40am

re: #142 jeffreyw

Made me look! :) I’m seeing it as pending, due to post 15 April.

Tax refunds are taxable, usually, but I’ve heard different things: yes they are taxable, no they aren’t, and maybe they are, maybe they aren’t. Is that 4 things, or three?

Someone posted an article about that downstairs, I think. They’re calling it a refund of overpayment that because that’s the only category the computers have. Such refunds are not taxable.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:00:14am

re: #142 jeffreyw

Made me look! :) I’m seeing it as pending, due to post 15 April.

Tax refunds are taxable, usually, but I’ve heard different things: yes they are taxable, no they aren’t, and maybe they are, maybe they aren’t. Is that 4 things, or three?

they are not taxable
they are not reportable (except for certain very few people)
they are not a reduction of a future refund or balance due

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:04:53am

re: #146 Joe Bacon 🌹

OK, folks!

Looks like you did great on the puzzle!

And here’s the answers!

i take certain exceptions, because it’s early and i got nothing to do

2. Gun and Rose
3. Stone Temple Pilot
8. Potentially Smashed Pumpkin
9. Alice and Chains
13. Sex Pistol

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:05:34am

re: #115 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Well. This goes into my end-game capitalism scrapbook.

It just goes to show that the Dow Jones is an index of the stock market’s performance, not a direct indicator of the health or strength of the overall economy.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:06:11am

re: #159 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

i’d say not because it was someone ‘close to him’
but because it was someone just like him
republican, real estate developer, rich

and that still wont make him take this situation seriously for anyone other than protecting him and (some of ) his family

Trump’s only concern in this I bet is whether Chera left his money to the church or the king (Trump).

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:06:59am

re: #155 fern01

A couple of my elderly relatives send tweets by mail. 10 at a time.

we used to call that ‘a letter’. sometimes it consisted of paragraphs //

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:08:33am

re: #164 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Trump’s only concern in this I bet is whether Chera left his money to the church or the king (Trump).

ding!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:11:37am

re: #158 Joe Bacon 🌹

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lawhawk  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:13:30am

Oh right - this is your preferred outcome, right before the End Times and your apocalyptic worldview.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:14:11am

re: #167 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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170
Belafon  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:14:56am

re: #168 lawhawk

Oh right - this is your preferred outcome, right before the End Times and your apocalyptic worldview.

To prove it’s them, you’d have to stop gay marriage, abortion, remove all minorities, put women back in the kitchen…

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lawhawk  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:14:56am

re: #151 Disloyal Archangel

Reagan and the AIDS pandemic might beg to differ.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:15:59am

re: #152 plansbandc

He’s an expert, he had the audacity to tell the truth, and he contradicted tRump. He’s most definitely gone.

it is just a matter of how to shunt him out the door…

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steve_davis  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:16:10am

re: #75 Decatur Deb

What happens when you cross Francis of Assisi and Frantz Fanon?

In Easter message, Pope Francis proposes universal basic income
americamagazine.org

my only issue with a basic income is the worry that inflation will simply find a way of ensuring that somebody making, say, 12k a year minimum still doesn’t actually have enough money to do anything with. Landlords will raise rents on the assumption that everybody now has at least a minimum amount of income to invest in rentals, etc.

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lawhawk  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:17:47am

It’s now reported that a crew member of the USS Theodore Roosevelt died of covid19 complications.

That’s on Trump, Esper, and the chain of command. They failed. They ignored the threat of covid19 and did nothing to aid Capt. Crozier mitigate the effects when they had a chance. They rather blamed the captain and crew, when they were left on their own to pick up the pieces due to the Navy failing to institute any protocols for covid19 - whether it was revoking shore leaves, putting isolation in place prior to boarding, etc. They have actively undermined Navy readiness as a result. They have left us weakened and our fleet is out of place and unable to answer potential threats thanks to Trump’s dumbfuckery.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:18:35am
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makeitstop  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:18:49am

I honestly thought Bill Bennett was dead. But noooooo - he’s on Fox and trying to revive the ‘Corona is just the flu!’ talking point.

Assholes. A lot of people are gonna die because of this bullshit.

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Jay C  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:20:22am

re: #146 Joe Bacon 🌹

OK, folks!

Looks like you did great on the puzzle!

Once again here it is:

[Embedded content]

And here’s the answers!

1. Pearl Jam
2. Guns and Roses
3. Stone Temple Pilots
4.Queen
5.The Doors
6. Led Zeppelin
7. Radio Head
8. Smashing Pumpkins
9. Alice In Chains
10. Pantera
11. Melonhead
12. Rolling Stones
13. Sex Pistols
14. The Police
15. The Beatles

Got em all except no. 10. (I thought “John Cougar”, but then, being an
Old, I’ve no idea of who “Pantera” is….)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:21:53am

re: #169 Joe Bacon 🌹

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:23:11am

re: #177 Jay C

Got em all except no. 10. (I thought “John Cougar”, but then, being an
Old, I’ve no idea of who “Pantera” is….)

I had #10 as well as either John Cougar or Def Leppard.

I had #4 as Prince rather than Queen.

No idea on #11.

And had an alternative for #5 as “Three Doors Down”.

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makeitstop  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:23:28am

re: #146 Joe Bacon 🌹

OK, folks!

Looks like you did great on the puzzle!

Once again here it is:

[Embedded content]

And here’s the answers!

1. Pearl Jam
2. Guns and Roses
3. Stone Temple Pilots
4.Queen
5.The Doors
6. Led Zeppelin
7. Radio Head
8. Smashing Pumpkins
9. Alice In Chains
10. Pantera
11. Melonhead
12. Rolling Stones
13. Sex Pistols
14. The Police
15. The Beatles

I’d quibble on #11 - it could just as easily be Blind Melon.

(I’ve never heard of a band called Melonhead.)

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:25:46am

re: #174 lawhawk

It’s now reported that a crew member of the USS Theodore Roosevelt died of covid19 complications.

That’s on Trump, Esper, and the chain of command. They failed. They ignored the threat of covid19 and did nothing to aid Capt. Crozier mitigate the effects when they had a chance. They rather blamed the captain and crew, when they were left on their own to pick up the pieces due to the Navy failing to institute any protocols for covid19 - whether it was revoking shore leaves, putting isolation in place prior to boarding, etc. They have actively undermined Navy readiness as a result. They have left us weakened and our fleet is out of place and unable to answer potential threats thanks to Trump’s dumbfuckery.

axing Crozier is like axing the IG’s and trying to out the ukraine whistleblower

ironically this admin is really bad at coordinating messaging (though contradiction doesnt seem to matter). but they are real good at killing any messenger of truth

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:26:11am

re: #180 makeitstop

I can’t find any evidence of a well known band called “Melonhead”. I did find a group called “The Melonheads”, but they aren’t famous, they are just a group with a few hundred fans on Facebook.

I’m going to say the answer was Blind Melon too.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:26:41am

re: #176 makeitstop

I honestly thought Bill Bennett was dead. But noooooo - he’s on Fox and trying to revive the ‘Corona is just the flu!’ talking point.

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Assholes. A lot of people are gonna die because of this bullshit.

Ah the same Bill “Mr. Morality” Bennett caught with prostitutes in Las Vegas…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:27:12am

POWER GRAB ALERT

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:29:39am

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

POWER GRAB ALERT

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So who would have predicted that the real “Jade Helm” federal government seizing power over the states would be done by the conservatives?
///

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:30:21am

re: #185 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So who would have predicted that the real “Jade Helm” federal government seizing power over the states would be done by the conservatives?
///

Everyone? 😁

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:30:31am

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

….It is the decision of the President, and for many good reasons. With that being said, the Administration and I are working closely with the Governors, and this will continue. A decision by me, in conjunction with the Governors and input from others, will be made shortly!

…so when it comes to supplying vital medical equipment and assistance, he is “not responsible”, but when it comes to endangering lives in the hopes of getting the economy back on its feet to improve his re-election chances, then he is “fully responsible”.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:31:43am

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

Someone needs to tweet this at Trump:

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stpaulbear  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:31:52am

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

POWER GRAB ALERT

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NObody can talk about ANYthing without him getting homicidally defensive and reactionary.

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retired cynic  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:33:56am

re: #93 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I have no idea why Marcy Wheeler is considered some kind of, any kind of actually, security expert.

I don’t know, of course, but I tend to like her posts. And it seems like she had a good convo with Anymouse, and agreed with him. Just my take.

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Interesting Times  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:34:36am

If you want to wait for the corporate media to point this out, you’ll die of natural old age first:

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:34:48am

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 200412 edition ————————————>
“We *Will* Rock You”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:34:56am

re: #178 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Decatur Deb  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:36:05am

re: #173 steve_davis

my only issue with a basic income is the worry that inflation will simply find a way of ensuring that somebody making, say, 12k a year minimum still doesn’t actually have enough money to do anything with. Landlords will raise rents on the assumption that everybody now has at least a minimum amount of income to invest in rentals, etc.

Landlords? All the landlords will be working on rural infrastructure projects, building People’s Cathedrals.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:37:47am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…so when it comes to supplying vital medical equipment and assistance, he is “not responsible”, but when it comes to endangering lives in the hopes of getting the economy back on its feet to improve his re-election chances, then he is “fully responsible”.

im good with that

like the impeachment stain, it wont wash out

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:38:19am

re: #146 Joe Bacon 🌹

OK, folks!

Looks like you did great on the puzzle!

Once again here it is:

[Embedded content]

And here’s the answers!

1. Pearl Jam
2. Guns and Roses
3. Stone Temple Pilots
4.Queen
5.The Doors
6. Led Zeppelin
7. Radio Head
8. Smashing Pumpkins
9. Alice In Chains
10. Pantera
11. Melonhead
12. Rolling Stones
13. Sex Pistols
14. The Police
15. The Beatles

I got all but:
5. I had 3 Doors Down
9. I had nothing
10. I had nothing
11. I had Blind Melon

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:38:40am

re: #188 Dr Lizardo

Someone needs to tweet this at Trump:

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oh yeah?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:39:10am

re: #196 Eventual Carrion

Three doors down. Brilliant!

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Ming5000  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:39:28am

re: #78 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

oh dear (from politicalwire.com)

Dr Fauci , in 2005, comes off really well in that 60 Minutes episode

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:40:41am

re: #173 steve_davis

my only issue with a basic income is the worry that inflation will simply find a way of ensuring that somebody making, say, 12k a year minimum still doesn’t actually have enough money to do anything with. Landlords will raise rents on the assumption that everybody now has at least a minimum amount of income to invest in rentals, etc.

Then I will build an apartment that assumes less.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:42:22am

re: #191 Interesting Times

If you want to wait for the corporate media to point this out, you’ll die of natural old age first:

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you know what else works?
test as many people as possible
isolate the positives
contact tracing
retest subsets of negatives as necessary - ie other symptoms
ensure the positive, non hospitalized stay isolated
etc

this is annoying. and expensive.
it’s not hard

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:43:38am

re: #199 Ming5000

Dr Fauci , in 2005, comes off really well in that 60 Minutes episode

it was great that they got video of him

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:43:56am

Re: the discussions on Trump condemning the Post Office to death to stop VBM. I think that the issue is far simpler and typically Trumpan: he is saying: “You want to save the Post Office? Well, give me my 500 billion dollar slush fund so that I can finally be richer than Putin, and you can have your little Post Office.” Everything with him is transactional — it has nothing to do with broader policy objectives, but to let him get away with highway robbery. It’s extortion, pure and simple.

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fern01  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:44:45am

re: #165 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

we used to call that ‘a letter’. sometimes it consisted of paragraphs //

Except when this lot send letters - they are 6 pages long - written in tiny script on both sides of the paper. 10 tweets is seriously minimal. :)

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:46:57am

re: #123 danarchy

Is it just me or does this seem a little premature?

Spain loosens coronavirus lockdown, death toll passes 17,000 but pace slows

My sister’s best friend has lived in Spain since the 1970’s. The lockdown there is far stricter than ANYTHING we’ve seen here. People are confined to their property — only one person can go shopping. It may be premature — but it’s a far harsher imprisonment than we have been experiencing.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:47:09am
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Citizen K  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:48:20am

re: #146 Joe Bacon 🌹

OK, folks!

Looks like you did great on the puzzle!

Once again here it is:

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And here’s the answers!

1. Pearl Jam
2. Guns and Roses
3. Stone Temple Pilots
4.Queen
5.The Doors
6. Led Zeppelin
7. Radio Head
8. Smashing Pumpkins
9. Alice In Chains
10. Pantera
11. Melonhead
12. Rolling Stones
13. Sex Pistols
14. The Police
15. The Beatles

I feel like 11 would have fit ‘Blind Melon’ moreso. Melonhead seems a bit more…obscure by comparison? I dunno.

And The Police might have been easier to guess if there were more there (and they looked more distinct from the Pilot in 3.

Pantera definitely makes sense but at the same time I wouldn’t have thought of it at all on my own.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:49:33am

re: #191 Interesting Times

“if we stay in a lockdown, people will die because they have no money” is one of those arguments based on a false binary 1. Lift restrictions or 2. Keep restrictions in place and nothing else.

The correct answer is 3. Keep restrictions and ***the government should pay people***

How much of the 40% of America that the 1% own are they willing to part with to help save lives and aid those worst affected by the crisis?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:50:44am

re: #205 Hecuba’s daughter

The opportunity we have here (sure to be squandered by Cheetolini) is to see how it goes in other countries when they ease up and bit. Ideally, that way we can get an idea of what works and what doesn’t and get a solid plan in place for when we eventually start this process.

Of Trump is going to Trump, so expect yet ANOTHER shitshow, most likely because things will start to open up too quickly and, instead of warning against it, Trump will be cheering it on.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:52:12am

OT
Raindrops on nasturtiums
iPhone 8 with fisheye clip on lens

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:53:11am

re: #130 Barefoot Grin

I hadn’t thought of that, but hell yes. On “firing Fauci” it’s running about 98% against, but there’s a growing number of folks with long strings of numbers in their names calling him disloyal and a lunatic.

It’s not just Russian bots — it’s almost the whole Trump base who demonize anyone who dares criticize their lord and master. Our brother who was very complimentary of Fauci a few weeks ago hasn’t said anything but he’s not really on social media so I don’t know if he’s joined the pack of hyenas (no intent to insult hyenas) trying to bring Fauci down. However, a college classmate of mine has been posting scurrilous videos that attack Fauci on a regular basis.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:53:24am

re: #206 Omar Comin’ Yo

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Good but sucks at the same time.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:54:01am

Standard lens iPhone 8

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:56:00am

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

POWER GRAB ALERT

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:56:08am

im out running this morning and as usual there some trash people toss in the grass outside the park fences. park personnel clean it up when they mow.

today i saw gloves. yup - your thought is exactly what mine was.

but here’s the thing.
these people - park staff, janitors, custodians, garbage collectors, etc - have been fighting working conditions for years.

remember garbage collectors who get stuck with needles? part of the job / tough.
people who clean the sinks, toilets, pick up the trash, with bare hands…no one’s forcing you…

some time ago some managements broke down and started giving some of them gloves. sometimes in some places. because they’re just ‘germs’, right?

well now nearly everyone knows what covid is how it spreads and how every single person might be needing gloves and a mask all the time.

and that includes these folks; at their jobs.

what it took to recognize them as not only human but entitled to the same protections you expect for yourself.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:57:17am

re: #213 So Cal Greek Hippie

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Standard lens iPhone 8

The sharpness of the standard is more impressive. Clip on WA and Teles suffer from the inherent “auxilliary lens” compromises of the silver era. There are some surprising astrophotos made with consumer telescopes and eyepiece cellphone holders, though.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 13, 2020 • 8:58:14am

re: #188 Dr Lizardo

Someone needs to tweet this at Trump:

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Done.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:03:49am
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A Cranky One  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:04:00am

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:05:55am

This makes me feel a little better:

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:07:47am

re: #220 Flying Squirrel Girl

Me too.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:10:26am

End of the World review:

As I mentioned the other day, I am really disappointed with this real-life apocalypse compared to various fictional presentations. It lacks zombies, bug-eyed monsters, meteors or nuclear explosions, though the latter could still make an appearance as the plot evolves.
It comes off a little better compared to traditional versions, since there is definitely plenty of plague but no rain of frogs, and there are no reports of rivers turning to blood. In fact, some of them are clearing up with the decline in pollution. One bright spot is the presence of detestable villains, more than enough of them in fact, led by an evil emperor, Cheeto the Naked.
On the whole, though, it is singularly lacking in entertainment value. I give it 2 stars out of 5.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:14:15am

re: #222 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

End of the World review:

As I mentioned the other day, I am really disappointed with this real-life apocalypse compared to various fictional presentations. It lacks zombies, bug-eyed monsters, meteor or nuclear explosions, though the latter could still make an appearance as the plot evolves.
It comes off a little better compared to traditional versions, since there is definitely plenty of plague but no rain of frogs, and there are no reports of rivers turning to blood. In fact, some of them are clearing up with the decline in pollution. One bright spot is the presence of detestable villains, more than enough of them in fact, led by an evil emperor, Cheeto the Naked.
On the whole, though, it is singularly lacking in entertainment value. I give it 2 stars out of 5.

It also lacks the military cordoning off cities — and shooting those who try to escape.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:15:00am

re: #222 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

End of the World review:

As I mentioned the other day, I am really disappointed with this real-life apocalypse compared to various fictional presentations. It lacks zombies, bug-eyed monsters, meteors or nuclear explosions, though the latter could still make an appearance as the plot evolves.
It comes off a little better compared to traditional versions, since there is definitely plenty of plague but no rain of frogs, and there are no reports of rivers turning to blood. In fact, some of them are clearing up with the decline in pollution. One bright spot is the presence of detestable villains, more than enough of them in fact, led by an evil emperor, Cheeto the Naked.
On the whole, though, it is singularly lacking in entertainment value. I give it 2 stars out of 5.

our pond is not nearly ready
and we’ve made no announcement
still, some toads have moved in
they poop on our deck

i spent the morning removing toad stools

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:16:01am

re: #223 Hecuba’s daughter

It also lacks the military cordoning off cities — and shooting those who try to escape.

That could yet appear as the story continues.

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lawhawk  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:17:45am

re: #222 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

And yet, people wouldn’t act any different than they are now if those infected with covid19 acted like actual zombies.

Right wingers would still be acting as though nothing is wrong and that we should go about our daily business even as the zombies infect more and more people.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:20:33am

re: #206 Omar Comin’ Yo

Last month was the first March without a school shooting in the United States since 2002.

According to Wiki, there were 26 mass shootings in March 2020, but none of them in a school.

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makeitstop  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:20:33am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:21:55am

re: #219 A Cranky One

Sounds like religion.

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Teukka  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:23:35am

re: #225 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That could yet appear as the story continues.

As could instead of mutating itself into oblivion, SARS-CoV-2 mutates into Captain Trips…
Wish I was ///

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:30:22am

re: #207 Citizen K
I got a few of them right then.

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makeitstop  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:31:06am

Ted Cruz, murdered on Twitter yet again - this time by Gov. Whitmer, who I’m liking more and more nowadays.

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makeitstop  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:34:23am

GAH. Preznit Baby.

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Targetpractice  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:35:25am

re: #233 makeitstop

GAH. Preznit Baby.

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Fauci’s gotta have something on him. That’s the only explanation. Donny would have fired his ass already otherwise.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:35:28am

re: #142 jeffreyw

Made me look! :) I’m seeing it as pending, due to post 15 April.

Tax refunds are taxable, usually, but I’ve heard different things: yes they are taxable, no they aren’t, and maybe they are, maybe they aren’t. Is that 4 things, or three?

True or False: Your Stimulus Check is Just An Advance on Next Year’s Tax Refund

Two snippets:

Will this eat into my tax refund for 2020?

No. The ‘advance’ you’ve been hearing about is in reference to a special tax credit that’ll appear on the tax return you file in 2021 for the 2020 tax year — a tax credit that wouldn’t have been there if it wasn’t for these stimulus checks.

So the Internal Revenue Service isn’t giving you some of your 2020 tax refund upfront. The stimulus check will be in addition to what you would’ve otherwise expected.
Will it count towards my taxable income for 2020?

No. This money is not considered income. It won’t be taxable and it won’t affect your income tax bracket for 2020.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:36:55am

re: #229 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Sounds like religion.

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maybe it’s the shit that goes out over the airwaves

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:37:30am

re: #233 makeitstop

Not saying nice things? DT is doing the exact opposite of Dr Fauci has suggested and DT still wants praise.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:38:15am

re: #216 Decatur Deb


Clip on macro: Small flower, blurry because it’s hard to focus on a moving thing at that zoom
Shell is approximately 1/4” diameter

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makeitstop  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:38:55am

re: #234 Targetpractice

Fauci’s gotta have something on him. That’s the only explanation. Donny would have fired his ass already otherwise.

A few people have pointed out that if Fauci were fired, then he’d really get to say what he’s thinking - about Trump as well as the COVID response.

That said, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if Fauci gets his walking papers. Trump is just stupid enough to do it.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:39:02am

re: #234 Targetpractice

Fauci’s gotta have something on him. That’s the only explanation. Donny would have fired his ass already otherwise.

if he were axed, he’d likely speak freely

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:39:19am
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Targetpractice  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:40:03am

re: #241 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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“States rights,” folks.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:40:21am

re: #237 PhillyPretzel

Not saying nice things? DT is doing the exact opposite of Dr Fauci has suggested and DT still wants praise.

he is morbidly concerned with what people think of him

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Targetpractice  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:40:51am

re: #243 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

he is morbidly concerned with what people think of him

Malignant narcissism.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:41:10am

re: #240 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

if he were axed, he’d likely speak freely

It’s probably someone’s full time job at the White House to remind Trump of that every hour on the hour.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:42:02am

re: #239 makeitstop

A few people have pointed out that if Fauci were fired, then he’d really get to say what he’s thinking - about Trump as well as the COVID response.

That said, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if Fauci gets his walking papers. Trump is just stupid enough to do it.

yeah fire the 6 term infectious disease expert in the middle of this
that’ll be a good look

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:42:40am

re: #240 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

if he were axed, he’d likely speak freely

And as mentioned earlier, Biden would pick him up and put him on his own team…

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Teukka  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:44:32am

re: #246 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

yeah fire the 6 term infectious disease expert in the middle of this
that’ll be a good look

Leading to an absolutely magnificent look when the rate of contagion accelerates significantly as a result.
[N.B.: Irony, Snark and Sarc]

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makeitstop  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:44:58am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:45:53am

re: #241 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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biggest decision of his life?
delusional nonsense (what else is new?)

the president has virtually no power here
it’s with the governors mostly
there’s no switch to ‘reopen the economy’ - there’s nothing he can ‘do’

this is what happens when you make an uneducated, incurious “outsider” president.
he’s never read, studied, or even understands the constitution or how any of this works. he just wants what he wants.

USA Today: “Federal law allows Washington to impose quarantines in some circumstances and limit travel between states, but the Trump administration has not invoked those powers. And the Supreme Court has struck down attempts by the federal government to intervene within states.”

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stpaulbear  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:46:04am

re: #234 Targetpractice

Fauci’s gotta have something on him. That’s the only explanation. Donny would have fired his ass already otherwise.

Fauci has huge amounts of gravitas. Trump will never have it. Even Trump can sense that firing Fauci will be an unrecoverable own-goal.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:46:55am

re: #244 Targetpractice

Malignant narcissism.

in fact i’d go a step further from my comment
he doesnt really care what people think about him
he cares what people say about him

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:49:12am

re: #245 Teddy’s Person

It’s probably someone’s full time job at the White House to remind Trump of that every hour on the hour.

fauci could add fuel to the fire but hell, everybody already knows

the NYT is already on it (Trump had more warnings of impending disaster than Bush did and ignored all of them)

and axios has a list of 10 warnings ignored

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:49:44am

Midday mental health break

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:49:59am

re: #249 makeitstop

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navarro’s probably still hiding under his bed

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:54:40am

re: #255 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

navarro’s probably still hiding under his bed

Trump is trying to coax him out and telling him he did the right thing: just LIE OUT LOUD.

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:55:41am

re: #234 Targetpractice

Fauci’s gotta have something on him. That’s the only explanation. Donny would have fired his ass already otherwise.

Every station but Fox will have him on. The Biden campaign will hire him.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:56:15am
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gocart mozart  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:57:48am
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Jay C  Apr 13, 2020 • 9:59:20am

re: #251 stpaulbear

Fauci has huge amounts of gravitas. Trump will never have it. Even Trump can sense that firing Fauci will be an unrecoverable own-goal.

I’d opine otherwise. Donald Trump doesn’t seem to think ( or more precisely, has never acted like) there really is anything like an “unrecoverable “ mistake: that no matter WHAT he does, or no matter WHAT the negative consequences,
1. He himself, or the WH org will simply deny, gaslight or blame-shift (probably all at once);
2. He/they will rely on RW media enablers to bolster point 1
3. He/they will just move on to the next disaster confident that 40% of the electorate will cheeringly back him up….

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:00:50am

re: #259 gocart mozart

Which office is Stormy running for again?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:01:17am

re: #254 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Midday mental health break

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:02:11am

re: #262 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Unfortunately a sign of times.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:02:42am

re: #251 stpaulbear

Fauci has huge amounts of gravitas. Trump will never have it. Even Trump can sense that firing Fauci will be an unrecoverable own-goal.

an interesting thing about this fire fauci nonsense is trump retweets some rando who’s using the firefauci tag

as if what?
it’s ‘the people’ who want him gone so trump has no choice?
as if what the people want is a criteria for hiring and firing anyway
and as if he ever listens to the people
which people?
and how many????

this is looney toons

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Jay C  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:02:50am

re: #261 Belafon

Which office is Stormy running for again?

Does it matter? I’d vote for her over most/any Republican in an instant.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:04:07am
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Belafon  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:04:31am

re: #260 Jay C

I’d opine otherwise. Donald Trump doesn’t seem to think ( or more precisely, has never acted like) there really is anything like an “unrecoverable “ mistake: that no matter WHAT he does, or no matter WHAT the negative consequences,
1. He himself, or the WH org will simply deny, gaslight or blame-shift (probably all at once);
2. He/they will rely on RW media enablers to bolster point 1
3. He/they will just move on to the next disaster confident that 40% of the electorate will cheeringly back him up….

It’s step 3 that he’s no longer in control of. He can’t move on from this disaster.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:04:45am
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Belafon  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:06:06am

re: #265 Jay C

Does it matter? I’d vote for her over most/any Republican in an instant.

Agree. I was just making the statement about our “supporting” her compared to their supporting Trump.

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makeitstop  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:08:14am

Laura Ingraham has lost her fucking mind.

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lawhawk  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:09:35am

Fuck Trump and the complicit GOP.

My twitter feed is full of this:

People grieving for their lost family members due to covid19.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:09:37am
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Jay C  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:09:51am

re: #267 Belafon

It’s step 3 that he’s no longer in control of. He can’t move on from this disaster.

Maybe, maybe not. But it’s pretty certain Trump (backed up by the whole GOP) is sure likely to try….

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Targetpractice  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:10:02am

re: #270 makeitstop

Laura Ingraham has lost her fucking mind.

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It’s the only way it makes sense in the minds of wingnuts: If you’re not rooting for the resurrection of the economy in Trump’s name, then you’re against him and thus in favor of anything that would hurt him.

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lawhawk  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:11:29am

re: #270 makeitstop

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makeitstop  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:12:34am

re: #274 Targetpractice

It’s the only way it makes sense in the minds of wingnuts: If you’re not rooting for the resurrection of the economy in Trump’s name, then you’re against him and thus in favor of anything that would hurt him.

I went to her tweet and read the comments. Her followers are fucking gone, and they ain’t never coming back. Fuckin’ scary.

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stpaulbear  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:13:21am

re: #264 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

an interesting thing about this fire fauci nonsense is trump retweets some rando who’s using the firefauci tag

as if what?
it’s ‘the people’ who want him gone so trump has no choice?
as if what the people want is a criteria for hiring and firing anyway
and as if he ever listens to the people
which people?
and how many????

this is looney toons

If Trump thinks he can’t fire Fauci, he’ll insult, demean, and hurt Fauci to keep himself on top.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:13:54am

Trump:“‘Why is Dr. Fauci not saying nice things about me?’”

Uhhh, because that’s not his fucking job, you narcissistic shitgoblin.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:13:59am
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:15:27am

re: #260 Jay C

I’d opine otherwise. Donald Trump doesn’t seem to think ( or more precisely, has never acted like) there really is anything like an “unrecoverable ” mistake: that no matter WHAT he does, or no matter WHAT the negative consequences,
1. He himself, or the WH org will simply deny, gaslight or blame-shift (probably all at once);
2. He/they will rely on RW media enablers to bolster point 1
3. He/they will just move on to the next disaster confident that 40% of the electorate will cheeringly back him up….

Trump is following the Bernie model — he believes that he doesn’t need a majority of voters, just 40%. Remember, Bernie thought he could capture the nomination with only 30% support among Democrats.

And this 40% will stay with Trump no matter how he botches this, unless they are among the 2-4% of the population who die from the disease before they can vote for him. Thanks to the EC and widespread voter suppression and GOP controlled states that prevent VBM, this could be enough to get him victory. 53% of Wisconsin voters voted for Democrats, but thanks to gerrymandering (equivalent of EC), the GOP controls 64% of the legislature.

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makeitstop  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:16:05am

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Gotta be some 1A hotshot lawyer who can take this on pro bono.

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Targetpractice  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:17:47am

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump:“‘Why is Dr. Fauci not saying nice things about me?’”

Uhhh, because that’s not his fucking job, you narcissistic shitgoblin.

In Trump’s mind, it is. “L’etat c’est moi” “I am the state.” That’s his entire worldview based upon decades of being the boss with unlimited authority and thus unquestionable rule. In his mind, Dr. Fauci does not work for the federal gov’t, he serves Trump and thus owes everything to him. Likewise he believes that the federal government, rather than operating as the entity of a mutual pact between the states, is the highest level of government and thus the states answer to it.

So yes, in his mind, Dr. Fauci’s job is to blow rainbows up his ass constantly.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:32:21am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

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America fuck yeah!

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:34:36am

re: #274 Targetpractice

It’s the only way it makes sense in the minds of wingnuts: If you’re not rooting for the resurrection of the economy* in Trump’s name, then you’re against him and thus in favor of anything that would hurt him.

* Now, today**. And not some time in the future when the Eggheads say it might be safe and prudent.

**Because again, America fuck yeah!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 13, 2020 • 10:42:16am

re: #270 makeitstop

Laura Ingraham has lost her fucking mind.

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Ming5000  Apr 13, 2020 • 11:27:52am

re: #228 makeitstop

1st time I ever retweeted Joe Walsh


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