Trump would love to talk about anything but the coronavirus crisis, but his attempts to change the subject to Iran and immigration aren’t working. #Colbert #StephenAtHome #Monologue
No I’m not dying. Getting better slowly. I just wanted to prepare for my eventual demise and have a lot of time on my hands. I decided to write what I want on my tombstone. I want people to know not who I was, but what I stood for, what I believed. i’m also hoping that kids will ask their parents and they will learn about the times we lived in and the evils we fought.
Here’s a preview.
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Chester County, PA COVID-19 numbers as of yesterday.
Confirmed cases: 1,017 (+40)
Total tested: 5,339 (+184)
Deaths: 64 (-3) <—- screwy! 67 as of yesterday and what is reported elsewhere.
re: #1 I Would Prefer Not To
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I just wrote my first obituary where the virus is named as the cause of death.
For a 94-year-old woman in a nursing home in Kankakee.
:(
“… the unofficial message from the Oval Office is an unmistakable warning: Those who challenge the president’s erratic and often inaccurate coronavirus views will be punished — or made to atone.” https://t.co/OLoppOepcT
— Robert Costa (@costareports) April 23, 2020
Patients injected in Europe’s first human trial for COVID-19 vaccine: report https://t.co/cKgZmCHeFo pic.twitter.com/qEnhFuCqNU
— The Hill (@thehill) April 23, 2020
re: #6 Dr. Matt
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a happier bunch of guinea pigs.
re: #8 Charles Johnson
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a happier bunch of guinea pigs.
Photo unrelated to the story? The woman on the right looks like she’s wearing a T-shirt related to Minnesota.
re: #8 Charles Johnson
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a happier bunch of guinea pigs.
Seriously though, that’s the wrong preview image for the article (if you look closer, they’re all coming out of a Walmart, and why would a European with dreaded “socialized healthcare” be wearing an “Access to Insulin is a Human Right” shirt?) The article itself shows this image instead.
re: #6 Dr. Matt
They fixed the picture
Patients injected in Europe’s first human trial for COVID-19 vaccine: report https://t.co/cZvJzfAWWv pic.twitter.com/xDaEw8HrY1
— The Hill (@thehill) April 23, 2020
re: #11 Interesting Times
Seriously though, that’s the wrong preview image for the article (if you look closer, they’re all coming out of a Walmart, and why would a European with dreaded “socialized healthcare” be wearing an “Access to Insulin is a Human Right” shirt?) The article itself shows this image instead.
They’re coming out of a Canadian Walmart. But this is TheHill. They are notorious for screwing up their images and clickbaiting stories.
Karen asked for it. And she #WINS!
K*ren: “Arrest me”
Cop: Okay
K*ren: 😲 pic.twitter.com/5NJnPsSj8k— Scottie PIPM (@scottiepipm) April 23, 2020
re: #13 lawhawk
They’re coming out of a Canadian Walmart. But this is TheHill. They are notorious for screwing up their images and clickbaiting stories.
True. If you want the legit story and a real (as opposed to stock) image, skip the Hillbait and read the BBC article they linked to instead (come to think of it, the woman actually getting the vaccine looks pretty happy too!)
re: #14 Dave In Austin
Oh the humanity inconvenience!
re: #14 Dave In Austin
Karen asked for it. And she #WINS!
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It would be funnier, except this shit was not only staged, but they proceeded to harass the officer for just doing his job:
this gotta be a scene straight outta parks n rec or something cmon how can ppl be this dense 🤦♂️ (RIP headphone users) pic.twitter.com/dBZSyX083q
— Scottie PIPM (@scottiepipm) April 23, 2020
re: #14 Dave In Austin
White people do these stunts without worrying the state health and human services people might come collect their kids.
Guaranteeing the spread of covid19 across his state and another wave of illnesses that will stress his state’s health care systems. https://t.co/4C79aSl5EA
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) April 23, 2020
re: #20 lawhawk
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“Will be allowed.” How many restaurants you figure will rush to open over the weekend to 50% capacity? There will be some, but the major chains are either going to remain closed or leave it up to their franchisees to decide with the understanding that they’ll be liable for any cases of CV-19 that can be traced back to their location.
re: #20 lawhawk
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If my local diner chain reopened to seating I’d still wouldn’t go. (Much as I’d like to simply to help out the wait staffs’ income.)
I’m still surprised the insurance industry has not been more outspoken yet on this issue.
re: #22 Dr. Matt
White Privilege at 11
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Yep, white privilege means knowing you’ll be home by suppertime with little more than a slap on the wrist.
Interesting bit of perspective here.
Canada is one of the most similar countries to the United States. They have roughly 10 percent of the population we do (37 million vs. 330 million). Thus, IF both countries were managing Covid-19 at similar levels you would expect our numbers to be somewhere around 10 times what the Canadian figures are.
However, to date Canada has reported around 42 500 cases. The United States? About 856 000.
Run the numbers and you’ll quickly discover our figures are about TWENTY times what the Canadian numbers are.
Why? There are many reasons but mainly because Canada was much quicker to shut things down early on in the outbreak, they have been much more aggressive with testing and they don’t have a for profit healthcare system.
And oh yeah, they actually have competent Federal leadership.
I really think the OPEN IT BACK UP NOW! brigade is massively overestimating the number of people who will be willing to just run out the door and start patronizing all these businesses again. I know I sure as hell won’t be in a hurry.
re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg
Interesting bit of perspective here.
Canada is one of the most similar countries to the United States. They have roughly 10 percent of the population we do (37 million vs. 330 million). Thus, IF both countries were managing Covid-19 at similar levels you would expect our numbers to be somewhere around 10 times what the Canadian figures are.
However, to date Canada has reported around 42 500 cases. The United States? About 856 000.
Run the numbers and you’ll quickly discover our figures are about TWENTY times what the Canadian numbers are.
Why? There are many reasons but mainly because Canada was much quicker to shut things down early on in the outbreak, they have been much more aggressive with testing and they don’t have a for profit healthcare system.
And oh yeah, they actually have competent Federal leadership.
You mean their federal and provincial governments are cooperating? THAT’S SOCIALIST!
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re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg
I really think the OPEN IT BACK UP NOW! brigade is massively overestimating the number of people who will be willing to just run out the door and start patronizing all these businesses again. I know I sure as hell won’t be in a hurry.
I think underlying the astroturfed protest based on “rights” is a very cynical plan to allow the states and employers to avoid paying people unemployment. Just another step in screwing the lower class out of money.
Oh and you know what else? Canada does NOT have Fox News!
re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg
Oh and you know what else? Canada does NOT have Fox News!
Oh! That ups them from Socialist to Communist!
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— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) April 23, 2020
re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg
I really think the OPEN IT BACK UP NOW! brigade is massively overestimating the number of people who will be willing to just run out the door and start patronizing all these businesses again. I know I sure as hell won’t be in a hurry.
My prediction now is there will be an initial spike, perhaps for a few days or a week at the most. One that will get all sorts of news coverage about how the American people are so eager to go “back to normal” that they’re throwing caution to the wind and heading to all those businesses that had been closed for weeks.
And 90-95% of it will be pure astroturf, wingnuts rushing to buy up non-essentials or get their hair done for no other reason than to “stiggit” to liberals. While the media coverage will be driven by the pundits who bet the farm on Dems facing “dire consequences” for extending shelter-in-place orders in their own states.
re: #31 gocart mozart
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re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg
So.. what you’re saying is you’d let me move up and rent your garage? I’d take that shit in a second. I already had good reasons to move to Canada but this bumps Snow Mexico to a solid second place because my sister lives in Australia.
re: #35 BigPapa
Hell, I’m not going to lie. I’ve certainly had thoughts of moving back as of late.
re: #24 Targetpractice
Yep, white privilege means knowing you’ll be home by suppertime with little more than a slap on the wrist.
Depends on how much she pisses off the judge.
TITLE 18
CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
CHAPTER 70
TRESPASS AND MALICIOUS INJURIES TO PROPERTY
(a) Penalties for criminal trespass.
(i) Any person who pleads guilty to or is found guilty of a violation of subsection (2)(a) of this section for the first time:
1. If no damage of any kind was committed during the trespass and the person accused does not remain if ordered to depart by the owner of the real property or his agent, then the person shall be guilty of an infraction and fined in the amount of three hundred dollars ($300); or
2. Except as provided in subparagraph (i)1. of this paragraph, the person may be sentenced to jail for a period of no more than six (6) months and shall be fined in an amount no less than five hundred dollars ($500) and no more than one thousand dollars ($1,000).
re: #38 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire
Depends on how much she pisses off the judge.
TITLE 18
CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
CHAPTER 70
TRESPASS AND MALICIOUS INJURIES TO PROPERTY(a) Penalties for criminal trespass.
(i) Any person who pleads guilty to or is found guilty of a violation of subsection (2)(a) of this section for the first time:
1. If no damage of any kind was committed during the trespass and the person accused does not remain if ordered to depart by the owner of the real property or his agent, then the person shall be guilty of an infraction and fined in the amount of three hundred dollars ($300); or
2. Except as provided in subparagraph (i)1. of this paragraph, the person may be sentenced to jail for a period of no more than six (6) months and shall be fined in an amount no less than five hundred dollars ($500) and no more than one thousand dollars ($1,000).
And you can damn well bet she will turn everything about this into a complete shit show, which probably raises the odds of the judge smacking her around a bit.
As Trump says calls for more testing are a “media trap” designed to damage him, that we’re doing more testing than any governors “even want,” and that swabs and reagents are “so easy to get,” here’s what Fauci told Time magazine today. https://t.co/QicH2IzniC pic.twitter.com/x6LJ0gPKg4
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) April 23, 2020
re: #39 Mike Lamb
And you can damn well bet she will turn everything about this into a complete shit show, which probably raises the odds of the judge smacking her around a bit.
We can only hope.
Coming soon: an investigation into Trump’s catastrophic bungling of the COVID-19 crisis. https://t.co/Croj5Yvrzd
— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) April 23, 2020
I had just started to hope there would be no briefing today only to see the moron just tweeted out there will be one.
re: #40 Eclectic Cyborg
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Also, see: Walz, Tim, Governor (D-MN), who has said that our state needs to quadruple its level of testing to even consider reopening the state (putting the lie to “doing more testing than any governors ‘even want’”).
Evening Lizardim. 2204 new tests, a new high for us, brings us to new highs in other ways: 221 positives, up to 2721; and 21 deaths, up to an even 200. We’re going to see more of this in the days ahead, as the health care trifecta of State, Research, and Care (MDH, U of M, and Mayo) ramps up its test load. But I have faith that, when the testing regimen has been established, we will see how clearly Minnesota has bought time to survive the onslaught of this first wave and come out the other side.
re: #44 Eclectic Cyborg
I had just started to hope there would be no briefing today only to see the moron just tweeted out there will be one.
— Dayle Winston Brand (@DayleBrand) April 23, 2020
re: #43 jaunte
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But can we take a hint?
cnn.com
Giant asteroid flying by Earth next week looks like it’s wearing a face mask
re: #46 Interesting Times
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Sorry, my vote’s given to the guy who shouts out, “SHUT THE FUCK UP, DONNIE, YOU’RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT!”
re: #49 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Or better yet: Sir we all know what your game is so just spill the beans and resign with the rest of your cronies and we will pick a competent person to steer us through this virus and its after effects.
So…I may have a problem, I walked out to get something from the car (car was just sitting there) and I heard a loud *SPROINK* come from my car, I haven’t tried driving it since I heard the noise…
Those who pay closer attention to the political reporting pulse of the country might be able to help me. In a discussion elsewhere and someone put up a link to someone on YouTube by name of “Timcast”.
I did a quick glance at his Twitter stuff and he is obviously rabidly Anti-Biden. And seems to be anti-everything.
So my question is whether this guy believes in anything, or is he simply a ranting head trying to get clicks?
re: #31 gocart mozart
Usually my first lizard brain reflex thought about toxic masculinity is “human constructs blah blah blah.”
And then I see people like Gorka say this shit and I’m like “oh, yeah, duh.”
re: #54 Dr. Matt
Stunning Poll Finds Whopping 4 in 10 Republicans Say Coronavirus Threat ‘Has Been Exaggerated
I’m more amazed that 6 in 10 say it hasn’t.
re: #54 Dr. Matt
Stunning Poll Finds Whopping 4 in 10 Republicans Say Coronavirus Threat ‘Has Been Exaggerated
Not surprising at all.
re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg
Oh and you know what else? Canada does NOT have Fox News!
That’s not exactly true. Fox is broadcast up here. But it’s the American Fox. The Canadian “Fox” died because, short of the Western provinces, few were into the bullshit they were selling.
re: #58 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
That’s not exactly true. Fox is broadcast up here. But it’s the American Fox. The Canadian “Fox” died because, short of the Western provinces, few were into the bullshit they were selling.
This is basically what I meant.
Noticed that today’s additional death reports from Louisiana is above the 2𝜎 level in the IHME model.
re: #54 Dr. Matt
Stunning Poll Finds Whopping 4 in 10 Republicans Say Coronavirus Threat ‘Has Been Exaggerated
Republicans are a plague themselves so naturally they will tend to support their own, even if it is a tiny virus rather than an obese goober.
re: #60 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
More deaths projected than California. About 1/10th our population.
re: #62 CBGB
Manly men wear Delta ball caps as fashion statements next to their ART WAR vanity plates.
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I mean, come on.
Isn’t he afraid he’ll be ambushed by one of the Antifa hit teams the NRA claims are lurking behind every bush waiting to pounce on unwary patriots? Brave man, I must say. Either that or he knows that the rest of his side is as utterly full of shit as he is.
So I’m back in Canada from going to the states. Honestly, going out these days is terrifying.
When I came back into Canada they weren’t happy that I’d gone to the US even with the explanation of why - but it was all good.
I was told that, by law (which recently passed), I must self isolate for 14 days and if I break that self isolation it’s punishable by (I forgot how many) years in prison and a $1,000,000 fine. Had to give them my address, phone and email info. They’re going to check up on me. They take this shit seriously.
They don’t have to worry, I’m going nowhere. And hopefully that includes not dying.
I got taco bell while I was out. Fuck it. And I’m about to either take a Valium or drink a lot of vodka because I just fucking need it.
re: #62 CBGB
Manly men wear Delta ball caps as fashion statements next to their ART WAR vanity plates.
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I mean, come on.
Mustang convertibles… what “manly men” in the car communities generally regard as the least manly of the muscle/pony cars.
re: #66 Jack Burton
Mustang convertibles… what “manly men” in the car communities generally regard as the least manly of the muscle/pony cars.
I’ll stick to wanting a Lotus Evora though I would take a first generation Porsche Boxster as acceptable.
As for Art of War, ask him what his favorite is from the 36 Stratagems… 😎
re: #67 William Lewis
In peace prepare for war and in war prepare for peace. The Art of War is of vital importance to the state it is a matter of life or death a road to safety or to ruin hence under no circumstances can it be neglected.
re: #62 CBGB
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I mean, come on.
That’s a straight 11 out of 10 on the tackiness scale.
Televangelist/scammer Jim Bakker is pulling out all the stops-send money now, checks only-because he might have to declare bankruptcy.
He first got into trouble by peddling a colloidal silver “cure” for the coronavirus. Missouri is suing him and NYAG Leticia James sent him a cease and desist. Then his credit card processor cut him off. Then AT&T, owner of DirecTV, sent a letter to the several networks who air Bakker, warning them vaguely of maybe not being in compliance with their contracts if they continued to air him.
Then this: kansascity.com
I’m thinking there is something serious going on behind the scenes because credit card processors really don’t like giving up that sweet, sweet 1.9 to 2.5 percent off the top of transactions. Unless, of course, the processor was getting a lot of chargebacks or some other shenanigans.
re: #62 CBGB
Manly men wear Delta ball caps as fashion statements next to their ART WAR vanity plates.
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I mean, come on.
Pink shirt and sewn loafers. Street fighter.
Up to 2.7 Million in New York May Have Been Infected, Antibody Study Finds
13.9% of people tested in a New York COVID-19 antibody study tested positive, meaning they had the virus, Cuomo says; that means up to 2.7 million people could have been infected statewide
This NY antibody study included many more positive (for antibody) people than the California studies. The studies in California, though Santa Clara did tests on roughly the same number of people, had far fewer antibody positives, thus false positives are more important in the statistics in California.
The upshot of the NY study is that, instead of a case fatality ratio of near 10%, the infection fatality ratio in the population is closer to 1%.
This is in accord with places that are doing much more dense testing of the active infections.
Dang. I just saw a wasp. I do not see any evidence of a nest but I am pissed. Tomorrow it is supposed to rain so I do not think I will see any of them. I still have the wasp spray from the summer if I need it.
re: #72 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
At this point I am convinced it’s possible to become infected with the virus and not necessarily be asymptomatic but not get sick to a level where you show major symptoms. I don’t know how else you explain those antibody findings.
Trump on states “opening up”: “It’s exciting to see…awe-inspiring…we’re coming out of it and we’re coming out of it well.” (Yesterday, he said he was strongly opposed to Georgia’s particular opening plan.)
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) April 23, 2020
re: #67 William Lewis
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re: #76 Eclectic Cyborg
I’ve been wondering about this. Is it possible that you could get this virus and your immune system kills it off and you never knew you even had it?
OFFS.
Trump says “you won’t even believe” how the virus reacts to sunlight. He says someone will come up and talk about this.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) April 23, 2020
BREAD THREAD
Large batch of challah dough made from a precious 5-lb bag of @kingarthurflour This will make enough loaves for the next 6 weeks. Watch this thread for the rising, shaping & baking steps of the process! #stayhome #QuarantineLife #resist #COVID19 #coronavirus pic.twitter.com/904zlzQOKH
— Lemon Harangue Pie (@Pie_Overlord) April 23, 2020
re: #79 Ace Rothstein
I’ve been wondering about this. Is it possible that you could get this virus and your immune system kills it off and you never knew you even had it?
Quite possibly. West Nile virus was like that as well.
re: #73 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
Descendant of the dinos prepares to take over the world for his avian community.
re: #76 Eclectic Cyborg
At this point I am convinced it’s possible to become infected with the virus and not necessarily be asymptomatic but not get sick to a level where you show major symptoms. I don’t know how else you explain those antibody findings.
Many people, if they are running a slight fever, may never notice it, especially when it’s cool and windy outside.
Same with an occasional cough. We just don’t think anything of it if we cough once or twice.
Or if we’re sleepy one morning and don’t want to get out of bed.
Repeating my concern about the California data: self-selection by volunteers combined with a few false-positives can inflate the anti-body positive results.
Not yet found any scientific data on the NY study. But when you’re looking at around 600 antibody-positives, a few false positives are not significant. The LA/USC study probably only had around 10 antibody-positive results (out of the roughly 680 tests overall), so a couple of false positives will make a significant change in the “adjusted” values.
re: #76 Eclectic Cyborg
At this point I am convinced it’s possible to become infected with the virus and not necessarily be asymptomatic but not get sick to a level where you show major symptoms. I don’t know how else you explain those antibody findings.
That is common to basically any infectious agent. Many, if not most, people who get exposed will be asymptomatic. Not all agents are contagious while asymptomatic though.
re: #79 Ace Rothstein
I’ve been wondering about this. Is it possible that you could get this virus and your immune system kills it off and you never knew you even had it?
That’s the most common result for most infectious agents.
AGGH MAKE HIM STOP
Trump says “we’re very close to a vaccine,” then immediately says we’re not very close on the testing of the vaccine, because you have to test it and it takes a long time. (Uhh…) (Fauci has floated a 12-to-18-month timeline; many are skeptical even it’ll be that fast.)
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) April 23, 2020
re: #78 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
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re: #88 Eclectic Cyborg
AGGH MAKE HIM STOP
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The way to stroke him out would be to arrange for all the reporter’s phone to ring. They answer them - and then all leave in a jumbled hurry while talking about “an important story!”
(I can dream, can’t I?)
re: #81 The Pie Overlord!
BREAD THREAD
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Do you have some sort of endorsement deal with King Arthur flour? ;)
re: #91 danarchy
It is the best flour you can buy.
re: #78 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
You don’t need a paypal account to receive money, just to send it. The recipient tells paypal what account to put the money in when the email is received.
re: #75 PhillyPretzel
Dang. I just saw a wasp. I do not see any evidence of a nest but I am pissed. Tomorrow it is supposed to rain so I do not think I will see any of them. I still have the wasp spray from the summer if I need it.
Do you have a lighter?
re: #76 Eclectic Cyborg
At this point I am convinced it’s possible to become infected with the virus and not necessarily be asymptomatic but not get sick to a level where you show major symptoms. I don’t know how else you explain those antibody findings.
I’m confused haven’t they always said from the beginning that 80% of cases were mild to moderate?
re: #72 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Up to 2.7 Million in New York May Have Been Infected, Antibody Study Finds
This NY antibody study included many more positive (for antibody) people than the California studies. The studies in California, though Santa Clara did tests on roughly the same number of people, had far fewer antibody positives, thus false positives are more important in the statistics in California.
The upshot of the NY study is that, instead of a case fatality ratio of near 10%, the infection fatality ratio in the population is closer to 1%.
This is in accord with places that are doing much more dense testing of the active infections.
Now we can hope to figure out what kind of immunity, if any, is imparted after recovery.
Lightly Salted Weasel D*cks — [Explicit Language] TRex David Ferguson and Jody Hamilton are here; Georgia’s Brian Kemp proceeding with his reckless re-open plan; The 1918 flu epidemic; Trump disagrees with Kemp’s plan; Greg Abbott, Franklin Graham, Dan Patrick and the Death Cult; Las Vegas mayor volunteers to be the control group; Embers of Corona; Trump wiped out all of the job gains since the Great Recession; Trump is muzzling all experts who aren’t him; Trump says Dems are rigging the election; With music by Cookie and Mike Farley; and more!
re: #94 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
You don’t need a paypal account to receive money, just to send it. The recipient tells paypal what account to put the money in when the email is received.
I had no idea.
William, whatever you want. It’s your money and I feel bad talking it from you.
I hadn’t seen this clip before and it’s really something
Osama bin Laden is trending so time to bring back this gem pic.twitter.com/961D8yvF2i
— Carlos (@ChuckeEChaves) April 23, 2020
re: #101 PhillyPretzel
Yes, I have a Zippo.
Maybe it’s redundant advice, but if you do find the nest, be sure to wait til nighttime (or the coldest time of day) to destroy it, to be sure to max out the casualty rate.
Pence: “If we can get the doctors to agree the virus is gay we can then cure it with conversion therapy. I know it works. It cured me.”
— The Cookie Doggo (@pelecookie) April 23, 2020
re: #98 danarchy
I’m confused haven’t they always said from the beginning that 80% of cases were mild to moderate?
Of the cases China tested, 80% of cases did not require hospitalization.
We have no idea what % of the population had it but never got tested because their symptoms were so mild as to not be noticeable or they were completely asymptomatic. The Diamond Princess data suggest that 10-15% of cases may be asymptomatic. There’s not a good handle on what % of cases are mild enough to pass unnoticed. There probably won’t be for a while.
re: #108 Jay C
Maybe it’s redundant advice, but if you do find the nest, be sure to wait til nighttime (or the coldest time of day) to destroy it, to be sure to max out the casualty rate.
Also to reduce the murderous attack on you when the wasps get wind of it.
re: #72 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Up to 2.7 Million in New York May Have Been Infected, Antibody Study Finds
This NY antibody study included many more positive (for antibody) people than the California studies. The studies in California, though Santa Clara did tests on roughly the same number of people, had far fewer antibody positives, thus false positives are more important in the statistics in California.
The upshot of the NY study is that, instead of a case fatality ratio of near 10%, the infection fatality ratio in the population is closer to 1%.
This is in accord with places that are doing much more dense testing of the active infections.
My continuing question on this: How accurate is the antibody test NY used in detecting this particular coronavirus? How many false positives? Didn’t the NY Times article talk about problems with most of the tests that were being used in general (not necessarily the one(s) in New York)?
re: #112 Hecuba’s daughter
My continuing question on this: How accurate is the antibody test NY used in detecting this particular coronavirus? How many false positives? Didn’t the NY Times article talk about problems with most of the tests that were being used in general (not necessarily the one(s) in New York)?
And were the people in the study really randomly selected?
re: #81 The Pie Overlord!
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Berenson is one of the many worthy candidates to replace the aged Geraldo Rivera as our official National Idiot.
This is a real tweet from a supposed “journalist.”@AlexBerenson did you know there’s a difference between how HIV & #COVID19 are spread?#COVIDIOTS https://t.co/LZGtHOvrLJ
— TheReal Truther (@thereal_truther) April 23, 2020
re: #106 Joe Bacon 🌹
Why does my gut tell me that his Mustang is an automatic V6?
(Not that there’s anything wrong with that)
Obligatory:
re: #108 Jay C
I just sprayed the door frame with spray paint. Rust-oleum Paint and Primer in one. :)
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re: #105 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
I had no idea.
William, whatever you want. It’s your money and I feel bad talking it from you.
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re: #112 Hecuba’s daughter
If I can find the NY study released in a journal somewhere, or a preprint, that is what I will be seeking.
re: #115 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Berenson is one of the many worthy candidates to replace the aged Geraldo Rivera as our official National Idiot.
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I do remember how, once the country acknowledged the seriousness of HIV (i.e. once the number of folks dying from AIDS became too large to ignore), they immediately overcompensated by treating the infected as pariahs and worrying that just casual contact might lead to infection.
Trump will now authorize Space Force to somehow drive the Earth into the Sun.
All better.— The Cookie Doggo (@pelecookie) April 23, 2020
So Tanning Beds
Trump says he asked DHS science officials, upon hearing light can kill the virus, if the light can be used to “hit the body” or even used “inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way.” He says they’ll test it. pic.twitter.com/UUmYNrEeIP
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) April 23, 2020
re: #125 Dave In Austin
great… idiots are going to start swallowing glow sticks now, aren’t they?
re: #96 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools! One of or Orchids (Or Kids?) I’m babysitting while the wife is away.
Protestors are in the town next to mine. Governor Baker lives in Swampscott.
Protestors Rally Outside Governor Baker’s Home
I’m told there was some moron in a MAGA shirt in downtown Salem near me.
re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #126 KGxvi
great… idiots are going to start swallowing glow sticks now, aren’t they?
Of course not. They’re going to cut them open and carefully filter the glass shards before drinking the elixir.
re: #112 Hecuba’s daughter
My continuing question on this: How accurate is the antibody test NY used in detecting this particular coronavirus? How many false positives? Didn’t the NY Times article talk about problems with most of the tests that were being used in general (not necessarily the one(s) in New York)?
I know: my wife had two negative CV tests, both of which came back within a couple of hours, I had one that was reported back in 24 hrs: it’s not reassuring at all to find out that apparently
A) the quicker the test, the higher the likelihood of a false reading, and
B) even with the *best* tests, there is still a (relatively) high rate of false readings and
C) even those folks who know what they’re doing (I.e., not most Republicans) have had to admit they still don’t have a true- scientific - handle on how this pandemic is spreading.
Except, of course, that testing is vital and it still isn’t being done enough.
Fun times.
re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth
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re: #121 Targetpractice
I do remember how, once the country acknowledged the seriousness of HIV (i.e. once the number of folks dying from AIDS became too large to ignore), they immediately overcompensated by treating the infected as pariahs and worrying that just casual contact might lead to infection.
It was also because hemophiliacs started dying and the experts started realizing that the blood supply was contaminated. I know of women during that time who normally would have been given blood transfusions after a problematic delivery but instead the doctors thought it was too risky.
re: #121 Targetpractice
I do remember how, once the country acknowledged the seriousness of HIV (i.e. once the number of folks dying from AIDS became too large to ignore), they immediately overcompensated by treating the infected as pariahs and worrying that just casual contact might lead to infection.
I’ve mentioned before how I shut down some co-workers who kept pestering me to have them as guests so they could swim in the pool at my apartment complex. I told them that one resident was HIV-positive (which was true) and he swam regularly in the pool (which wasn’t true). They never mentioned the pool again.
This was basically the same crowd of goobers who were amazed to learn that I was a Vietnam veteran, since I was reasonably well-groomed, polite, and civil; and had not once threatened to shoot the place up with an M-60.
re: #134 William Lewis
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Soros’ detractors compliment him, in their conspiracy theories, with possessing a lot of energy for an 89-year-old who uses a wheelchair. He’s supposedly running his second massive international conspiracy of the year. This while 20-somethings can’t motivate to shower daily.
— Dan Friedman (@dfriedman33) April 23, 2020
re: #134 William Lewis
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re: #126 KGxvi
great… idiots are going to start swallowing glow sticks now, aren’t they?
No, they will break them open and mix the contents with fish tank cleaner.
Corona Cocktails
re: #66 Jack Burton
Mustang convertibles… what “manly men” in the car communities generally regard as the least manly of the muscle/pony cars.
Car’s got a 6 in it. This has been the subject of ridicule since he parked it on the sidewalk that time.
Communist Chinese government official data: not a single person has died of COVID-19 in the entire country of 1.3 billion people since April 14th.
Believable, @WHO?https://t.co/IDmHjjuCEb https://t.co/0HneXrWW92 pic.twitter.com/Pi7BZZ9aRB— jerylbier (@JerylBier) April 23, 2020
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re: #144 Patricia Kayden
Trump is jealous that he can’t do this.
re: #141 William Lewis
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re: #146 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Trump is jealous that he can’t do this.
Yeah: the Chinese seem to have found a way to reduce the incidence of Coronavirus deaths to almost nothing: and in such short order, too!!
I wonder if he is actually going to have someone on the WH staff look into this to try to figure out how WE can “catch up”.
NOTE: this is sarcasm. Pretty sad, though that it really isn’t all that obvious.
WTAF
“The disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. It gets in the lungs” — Trump seems to suggests that injecting disinfectant inside people could be a treatment for the coronavirus pic.twitter.com/amis9Rphsm
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) April 23, 2020
re: #150 The Pie Overlord!
For Pete’s sake shut the heck up DT. Disinfectant cannot be used inside the body. He is going to get people killed. ::: shakes head in confusion :::
Faye Dunaway could play Dr. Birx if we survive long enough to make a movie about this.
What’s Faye Dunaway doing these days? How do we even know that she is NOT Dr. Birx?
Trump says he asked DHS science officials, upon hearing light can kill the virus, if the light can be used to “hit the body” or even used “inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way.” He says they’ll test it. pic.twitter.com/UUmYNrEeIP
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) April 23, 2020
re: #143 makeitstop
Car’s got a 6 in it. This has been the subject of ridicule since he parked it on the sidewalk that time.
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had an enormous white owl visit the farm this morning.
I can’t even imagine that there would be a snowy owl in eastern Kentucky, so it must have been an albino great horned.
re: #150 The Pie Overlord!
WTAF
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OK, riiiiiiight: let’s get a “disinfectant” “inside the lungs” - maybe, I dunno, chlorine or something, maybe? Really, what could go wrong….?
Trump claimed Joe Biden doesn’t want to debate him because of the coronavirus. The below Biden quote is from today. https://t.co/4RPpeAqP9n
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) April 23, 2020
Guess I better go out and grab all the bleach I can get my hands on.
Funny thing is that Trump doesn’t seem to grasp that it’s not that we don’t know how to kill this virus. Most strong disinfectants will work. Eliminating it from a living body without killing the body is of course somewhat more complicated.
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) April 23, 2020
Ditto
Watching Donald Trump’s maniacal monologue ending today’s press rally is making me REALLY wish I could #VoteBiden right the heck now.
We need a real president, not someone who @CNN has to #StopAiringTrump because he’s filled with lies.@JoeBiden will be a real president. pic.twitter.com/oDZQ1teEJH— Grant Stern (@grantstern) April 23, 2020
re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth
THIS.
It’s easy as fuck to kill a virus. Freeze it out, burn it, use a harsh chemical to destroy it.
Unfortunately, all of these will ALSO kill the host, which is what we’re trying to avoid.
re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth
had an enormous white owl visit the farm this morning.
I can’t even imagine that there would be a snowy owl in eastern Kentucky, so it must have been an albino great horned.
Might still be a Snowy.
From wikipedia:
In January 2009, a snowy owl appeared in Spring Hill, Tennessee, the first reported sighting in the state since 1987.[13] Also notable is the mass southern migration in the winter of 2011/2012, when thousands of snowy owls were spotted in various locations across the United States.[14] This was then followed by an even larger mass southern migration in 2013/2014 with the first snowy owls seen in Florida for decades.[
re: #163 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Might still be a Snowy.
From wikipedia:
Everything is so weird these days.
all I know for sure is that it was a ginormous white owl
re: #144 Patricia Kayden
However, death reports are just that, reports. The death reports in the US are often limited to hospital or nursing home deaths, for example, and don’t include deaths elsewhere.
re: #165 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
However, death reports are just that, reports. The death reports in the US are often limited to hospital or nursing home deaths, for example, and don’t include deaths elsewhere.
After a while, the Social Security system gets and publishes data on most deaths. Money talks.
re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth
Probably a snowy. We had them in Texas last year. They well go way south.
re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth
had an enormous white owl visit the farm this morning.
I can’t even imagine that there would be a snowy owl in eastern Kentucky, so it must have been an albino great horned.
Wow. And all I had was a groundhog outside my kitchen window. Through the screen.
re: #21 Targetpractice
“Will be allowed.” How many restaurants you figure will rush to open over the weekend to 50% capacity? There will be some, but the major chains are either going to remain closed or leave it up to their franchisees to decide with the understanding that they’ll be liable for any cases of CV-19 that can be traced back to their location.
The kind of people that will show up to have a sit-down dinner are also going to be the kind of people who are stingy as hell about tipping. Tipping is socialism.
re: #154 Eclectic Cyborg
Don’t play that vile version that is an abomination of all that is good and decent.
re: #168 SerialUpDinger
That is such a great trail, especially view at the top. Many happy memories hiking Santa Monica Mountains
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