High End Fusion From Japan: Ichikoro, “SAMURAI”

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SAMURAI (Official Music Video)

Music by ichikoro
Produced by Think
Recorded&Mixed&Mastered by Kenichi Koga at Xylomania Studio

Digital single「SAMURAI」
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Video Credits
Director: Takumi Osera (THINGS.)
DOP: Kohta Kimura
Lighting Director: Shunichiro Murakami
1st AC: Hayata Kosei
1st LA: Katsumi Karasawa
Hairmake: Konatsu
Hairmake Assistant: Rinna
Styling&Costume making: Shinya Watanabe (Numero Siete), Akihiro Takaiwa
Production Manager: Haruka Odaki
Production: THINGS.

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243 comments
1
PhillyPretzel  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:12:29pm

This is a such a wonderful thing not to have to type FT at the start of a new thread. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:22:58pm
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plansbandc  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:25:09pm

re: #1 PhillyPretzel

It’s a 350 lb. load off our shoulders every day.

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Dangerman  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:29:48pm

Aqualung
hush
Roxanne

are we still playing?

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mmmirele  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:32:20pm

My mother finally woke up and so my brother and I were able to give her an Easter basket. She loved it, but especially the stuffed bunny.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:33:20pm

re: #3 plansbandc

It’s a 350 lb. load off our shoulders every day.

But, but 239….

Maybe, Ronnie J. meany kilos?

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jaunte  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:35:57pm
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Dangerman  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:37:18pm

re: #4 Dangerman

Aqualung
hush
Roxanne

are we still playing?

that hush was supposed to be tush..zz top
but hush also

fire..Ohio players

and Ohio

now dinner

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:40:29pm

re: #4 Dangerman

Aqualung
hush
Roxanne

are we still playing?

Goldfinger

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:43:48pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:44:39pm

re: #10 Patricia Kayden

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MrBWS asks: Is that Texas?

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:44:57pm

re: #10 Patricia Kayden

Looks like someone did not use the spell checker let alone a dictionary.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:45:16pm

I don’t listen to titles with less words than this masterpiece. Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving With a Pict

Several Species Of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together In A Cave And Grooving With A Pict…

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jaunte  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:45:29pm

re: #10 Patricia Kayden

Hell on germs.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:46:03pm

Unholy water.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:46:22pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS asks: Is that Texas?

😂 Don’t know.

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William Lewis  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:46:31pm

re: #5 mmmirele

My mother finally woke up and so my brother and I were able to give her an Easter basket. She loved it, but especially the stuffed bunny.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:52:24pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:56:09pm
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plansbandc  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:59:02pm

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 4, 2021 • 4:59:39pm

Hadn’t heard of Ichikoro. That kicked ass. Thank you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:00:04pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:02:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:08:10pm
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b.d. (America is Great Again)  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:16:20pm

Thoughts and Prayers

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:17:08pm

I’m just about in the middle of Al Franken’s conversation with immigration law expert Ali Noorani. It’s depressing, but essential conversation about the lies that the Republicans are telling about the so-called “crisis.”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:17:16pm
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jamesfirecat  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:17:21pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

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While I strongly support that peaceful guy telling them, he wasn’t wearing a mask, so I can’t give full marks/support.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:20:51pm

re: #23 Dread Pirate Ron

They should have recruited some Black members. That would have gotten the police’s attention.

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aatharuv  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:21:57pm

re: #27 Dread Pirate Ron

Is she delusional enough to think a racist is going to care about the difference between Koreans and Chinese… or even Japanese. I’m guessing she’s never heard of Vincent Chin.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:23:16pm
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Thanos  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:23:25pm

Drummer on this doing well on that Spartan drum kit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:26:54pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:28:38pm

Broadly speaking, if you start with “how could I be a racist if I…” you are probably a racist.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:29:39pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

In Kentucky, the yahoos can bring their long guns into the State Capitol building, and they do.

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nines09  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:33:05pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

Asshole calls asshole an asshole and suddenly becomes hero.
Invested in cannibis after screaming his entire life to lock up users and dealers.
Fuck. Off. Bitch.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:34:39pm

re: #27 Dread Pirate Ron

Ummm. Anyone of ANY color can be racist.

Come the fuck on now.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:35:09pm

It’s Happening! NASA’s Mars Helicopter Has Touched Down on The Red Planet

NASA’s Ingenuity mini-helicopter has been dropped on the surface of Mars in preparation for its first flight, the US space agency said.

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A Mom Anon  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:36:53pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

This country has a lot of soul searching to do. Which won’t be possible without sustained, unwavering leadership. And even then, about a third of the country is just consumed with spite and retribution, hatred for some made up enemy that is all the rest of us. I don’t see how we can ever heal at this point, I really don’t. Not while the GOP in its current form is in existence at any level of government. Not while conservative media has a stranglehold as the main information/news source of a majority of the country. I’m trying to be hopeful, but I also have to remain realistic.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:37:34pm

re: #36 nines09

Asshole calls asshole an asshole and suddenly becomes hero.
Invested in cannibis after screaming his entire life to lock up users and dealers.
Fuck. Off. Bitch.

And as I learned today on Al Franken’s podcast, if Boehner hadn’t delayed the house vote on immigration reform, it would have have passed and we wouldn’t have Trump. But he dithered and Eric Cantor got beaten by [an asshole who I actually know in real life] David Brat, who ran on anti-immigration stuff. And then it was all over except for the tri-corner hats.

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nines09  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:41:56pm

re: #40 Barefoot Grin

He’s a fucking self serving paid lamprey just like the entire GOP is.
Watch the press fall over themselves licking yet again the boots of fascist racist motherfuckers.
No end.
No bottom.
Buy the media and judges and make paper as you work that field that never dies.
40 years later, The Cargo Cult still waits for the cowboy, but settles for the Nazi.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:44:14pm
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No Malarkey!  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:47:51pm

re: #39 A Mom Anon

This country has a lot of soul searching to do. Which won’t be possible without sustained, unwavering leadership. And even then, about a third of the country is just consumed with spite and retribution, hatred for some made up enemy that is all the rest of us. I don’t see how we can ever heal at this point, I really don’t. Not while the GOP in its current form is in existence at any level of government. Not while conservative media has a stranglehold as the main information/news source of a majority of the country. I’m trying to be hopeful, but I also have to remain realistic.

All signs point to Republicans planning to use the big lie of election fraud to put Republicans in charge of certifying election returns in swing states, so that they can steal the 2024 election, regardless of how the people vote. The Democrats are fighting in courts, and we have to have a response ready if the GQP tries to steal the election in a legalistic way.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:53:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:55:42pm
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EstebanTornado1963  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:56:45pm
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🌹UOJB!  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:57:20pm

re: #25 b.d. (America is Great Again)

Thoughts and Prayers

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Who is Greenwald blaming?

Hillary?
Hunter?
Nancy?
Champ?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2021 • 5:58:12pm
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nines09  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:02:09pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

Florida.
That’s the word.
Florida.
Meanwhile toxic water flows unimpeded into Tampa Bay because what the fuck is a beach?
And hundreds of homeowners are evacuated and what the hell is clean water?
In my travels I have been up and down and over and under Florida.
I would NEVER live in Florida unless it was beach side/front and a reverse osmosis water treatment.
I’ve been on both coasts and up and down and across, and Florida is a failed No-Pest-Strip and the bugs are still there.
Then you have the politicians….

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nines09  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:02:38pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

Never be human try.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:04:36pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:05:38pm

re: #1 PhillyPretzel

This is a such a wonderful thing not to have to type FT at the start of a new thread. :)

IT AIN’T FAKE! OUR PRAYERS ARE ANSWERED!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:05:39pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:06:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:07:06pm
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🌹UOJB!  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:10:50pm

re: #27 Dread Pirate Ron

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jaunte  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:12:22pm

re: #56 🌹UOJB!

“I’m not so sure I agree 100% with your chess work, Sery.”

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:17:43pm

re: #46 EstebanTornado1963

I won’t even read her tweets. Can’t stand her. The only reason we even know about her is because her Dad was John McCain.

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nines09  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:20:42pm

Raw and real and jfc it will never come back.

I Can’t Get Next to You (Live)

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:21:23pm

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:23:42pm
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🌹UOJB!  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:23:59pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:25:13pm

re: #49 nines09

Florida.
That’s the word.
Florida.
Meanwhile toxic water flows unimpeded into Tampa Bay because what the fuck is a beach?
And hundreds of homeowners are evacuated and what the hell is clean water?
In my travels I have been up and down and over and under Florida.
I would NEVER live in Florida unless it was beach side/front and a reverse osmosis water treatment.
I’ve been on both coasts and up and down and across, and Florida is a failed No-Pest-Strip and the bugs are still there.
Then you have the politicians….

Florida tap water is the nastiest shit I have ever tasted. I have to brush my teeth with bottled water.

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lawhawk  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:29:03pm

re: #63 The Pie Overlord!

Florida “drinking” water isn’t potable. It’s sulfurous crap that doesn’t taste like water. It’s like rotten eggs had sex with a skunk and a stink bug.

Second worst? Water in and around the Finger Lakes NY also has a lot of hydrogen sulfide too. Nasty as anything.

But only in Florida do they create wastewater ponds of radioactive water and then don’t make sure that the collection ponds are properly maintained so that when they fail, they have ability to contaminate everything downstream. For a state that supposedly prides itself on water quality, their water policy is uniformly awful.

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ipsos  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:33:48pm

re: #64 lawhawk

Florida “drinking” water isn’t potable. It’s sulfurous crap that doesn’t taste like water. It’s like rotten eggs had sex with a skunk and a stink bug.

Second worst? Water in and around the Finger Lakes NY also has a lot of hydrogen sulfide too. Nasty as anything.

Not all of the Finger Lakes has terrible water. The city of Rochester owns nearly the entire shoreline around Hemlock and Canadice lakes in the western Finger Lakes, which serve as the source for the city’s public water, and it’s some of the purest and best-tasting water anywhere. (With the added benefit that those lakes haven’t had the explosive tourism and resort development that you see around larger lakes like Canandaigua and Seneca, so they’ve become something of an ecological sanctuary, too.)

Plus, the Cobbs Hill reservoir where the pipeline from Hemlock Lake arrives at the edge of the city happens to be a very convenient one-mile walk from my house, and it’s a very popular spot for walking and recreation. Win win win!

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jaunte  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:33:51pm

re: #59 nines09

I have that on vinyl around here somewhere.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:38:28pm
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nines09  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:40:59pm

re: #66 jaunte

Get it.
Plug it in.
Play it without any interruption.
Talent.

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nines09  Apr 4, 2021 • 6:48:38pm

The Easter Bunny is on duty.
Sleep well.
I bet this is Florida.
Maybe not.
Sure.
Nite nite all.

Easter Bunny beats up guy😂😂

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ckkatz  Apr 4, 2021 • 7:01:57pm

re: #10 Patricia Kayden

Sheesh! Mistype a couple of letters and your whole message is urined!

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Belafon  Apr 4, 2021 • 7:05:14pm

re: #39 A Mom Anon

This country has a lot of soul searching to do. Which won’t be possible without sustained, unwavering leadership. And even then, about a third of the country is just consumed with spite and retribution, hatred for some made up enemy that is all the rest of us. I don’t see how we can ever heal at this point, I really don’t. Not while the GOP in its current form is in existence at any level of government. Not while conservative media has a stranglehold as the main information/news source of a majority of the country. I’m trying to be hopeful, but I also have to remain realistic.

About a third of our country has generally always been full of spite. The problem we have to solve right now is how to get them out of power.

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SerialUpDinger  Apr 4, 2021 • 7:13:02pm

YouTube




The Doll Song by Offenbach from Tales of Hoffman
Something different for a Sunday Evening.

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gocart mozart  Apr 4, 2021 • 7:14:37pm
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nines09  Apr 4, 2021 • 7:15:21pm

one more peeps…

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Amory Blaine  Apr 4, 2021 • 7:19:48pm

re: #38 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s Happening! NASA’s Mars Helicopter Has Touched Down on The Red Planet

Can’t be. Texas told me propellers don’t spin when it’s cold.

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Belafon  Apr 4, 2021 • 7:20:44pm

re: #67 Dread Pirate Ron

[Embedded content]

Kids not being picked on at school.

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nines09  Apr 4, 2021 • 7:28:11pm

“Yeah. I know a guy. Uh huh.”
we gone

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Dangerman  Apr 4, 2021 • 7:28:56pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

Goldfinger

One.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 4, 2021 • 7:30:02pm

I was staying at a friend’s “spare” house in punta gorda fl. (mom died rip) for a week awhile back. Went on a walk in the hood and someone’s ground sprinklers came on and the misty water smelled like shit. I was like omg that sucks.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 4, 2021 • 7:43:35pm

re: #27 Dread Pirate Ron

re: #30 aatharuv

I’d bet she’s never read Brian Reynolds Myers book “The Cleanest Race: How North Koreans See Themselves And Why It Matters”, which studies North Korea’s internal propaganda and concludes that the DPRK’s guiding ideology isn’t Juche as much as it is a race-based nationalism derived from Japanese fascism.

Just because she’s non-white doesn’t mean she’s not capable of racism or bigotry.

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Dangerman  Apr 4, 2021 • 7:45:02pm

re: #80 Amory Blaine

I was staying at a friend’s “spare” house in punta gorda fl. (mom died rip) for a week awhile back. Went on a walk in the hood and someone’s ground sprinklers came on and the misty water smelled like shit. I was like omg that sucks.

likely pond, canal or untreated well water.
not muni.
and def not treated well water. way too expensive and pointless.

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Dangerman  Apr 4, 2021 • 7:47:30pm

fwiw our local city water is what water should be
odorless
tasteless
colorless

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2021 • 7:48:42pm

One of the things I love about my hometown (Ottawa) is that drinking water is really good.

It’s not bad where I am now either, thankfully.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 4, 2021 • 7:49:29pm

re: #83 Dangerman

fwiw our local city water is what water should be
odorless
tasteless
colorless

Our local city water is horrendously mineral-laden, but it’s trucked in. The city water tower is loaded by the fire department (in fact, they’re directly adjacent to each other). I don’t remember where the fire captain said he gets it from, but it’s probably from a lake, if it’s got all that in it. The lakes are clean, but not THAT clean.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 4, 2021 • 7:53:18pm

I figured the water was advantageous to growing citrus. * Shrug.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 4, 2021 • 7:54:39pm

I always wondered why Las Vegas didn’t just treat their water at the source instead of millions of people all having separate treatment at the house.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 4, 2021 • 7:55:36pm

re: #87 Amory Blaine

I always wondered why Las Vegas didn’t just treat their water at the source instead of millions of people all having separate treatment at the house.

I presume that would be a question of volume, to be honest, but I am not my father (a civil engineer).

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Amory Blaine  Apr 4, 2021 • 8:02:51pm

re: #88 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

I suppose I should be embarrassed as my degree is in civil engineering 😁.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 4, 2021 • 8:03:32pm

This link takes you to a drone video of the reservoir my grandfather oversaw construction of for Ambridge PA.

It’s the JC Bacon Dam in Independence Township, PA

facebook.com

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 4, 2021 • 8:03:55pm

re: #89 Amory Blaine

I suppose I should be embarrassed as my degree is in civil engineering 😁.

Haha, engineers represent! I know the discipline has a wide domain, so it’s absolutely no knock on you that you don’t know the answer. I’d be interested to know, myself.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 4, 2021 • 8:04:50pm

I basically went back to school for the luls.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 4, 2021 • 8:06:08pm

re: #29 Patricia Kayden

They should have recruited some Black members. That would have gotten the police’s attention.

Apparently not all boogaloo members are racist or white supremacists — some are just antigovernment gun fanatics.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 4, 2021 • 8:06:44pm

re: #92 Amory Blaine

I basically went back to school for the luls.

My dad was one of the first in the family to go to post-secondary school, married a woman without his dad’s approval, and struggled his way to the American Dream and is now living a cushy retired life on a quiet farm in the middle of fucking nowhere, with his engineering licenses hanging proudly alongside his Purdue diploma in his office at the front of their house.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 4, 2021 • 8:07:06pm

If I retire in 5 years, like it says on the calendar I might go back for a law degree. Just to be a dick.

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wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2021 • 8:11:05pm

re: #95 Amory Blaine

If I retire in 5 years, like it says on the calendar I might go back for a law degree. Just to be a dick.

Best reason I ever heard for law school.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 4, 2021 • 8:14:49pm

re: #96 wrenchwench

It would be a challenge for me because of the esoteric nature of the law. I found much comfort in the cold lonely reality of the math.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2021 • 8:15:31pm

Bloody hell, I’m starting to get Epoch Times ads on Youtube.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 4, 2021 • 8:15:51pm

re: #98 Eclectic Cyborg

Bloody hell, I’m starting to get Epoch Times ads on Youtube.

I’ve been getting PragerU for a while now. Ugh.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 4, 2021 • 8:26:41pm

re: #99 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

The worst part of that is if I’m not paying attention, because their ads are like 2-3 minutes, and so I’ll look up at the TV and they’ll be in the middle of the most racist bullshit and I’m like, I’m letting that on my screen?

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 4, 2021 • 8:41:34pm

re: #98 Eclectic Cyborg

Bloody hell, I’m starting to get Epoch Times ads on Youtube.

You Tube keeps sticking that on my screen along with Prager U.

Sick of both of them!

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 4, 2021 • 8:45:30pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2021 • 9:12:14pm

re: #97 Amory Blaine

It would be a challenge for me because of the esoteric nature of the law. I found much comfort in the cold lonely reality of the math.

My mom went to law school while I was in high school. I learned that the law is not for me. It’s based too much on precedent, not on what makes sense. Esoteric is a nice word for it.

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William Lewis  Apr 4, 2021 • 9:19:00pm

re: #103 wrenchwench

My mom went to law school while I was in high school. I learned that the law is not for me. It’s based too much on precedent, not on what makes sense. Esoteric is a nice word for it.

In the modern world, perhaps. But back when laws and constitutions didn’t really exist, someone being able to tell the judge/reeve/noble/king that the last 5 times something happened, this (fine/punishment) was considered appropriate was an important part in the stability of the judicial system. Without precedent, one can argue that we’d be still using wergild as the core of the legal system.

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wrenchwench  Apr 4, 2021 • 9:22:48pm

re: #104 William Lewis

In the modern world, perhaps. But back when laws and constitutions didn’t really exist, someone being able to tell the judge/reeve/noble/king that the last 5 times something happened, this (fine/punishment) was considered appropriate was an important part in the stability of the judicial system. Without precedent, one can argue that we’d be still using wergild as the core of the legal system.

Precedent is based on precedent? All the way down?

It’s worse than I thought.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 4, 2021 • 9:46:09pm
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austin_blue  Apr 4, 2021 • 9:58:14pm

So back in the mid to late 30’s, there was this crazy white guy named Raymond Scott. He was the music director from 1940-43 at CBS Radio, but he was already famous for a frenetic style of jazz later termed as “Bug Music”. He was a Julliard grad, a fine pianist, a great bandleader, a great composer, and an engineer who made a lot of devices that revolutionized how recordings were made.

Here:

en.wikipedia.org

Here is some selected Bug Music:

Powerhouse

Dinner Music For A Pack Of Hungry Cannibals

The Raymond Scott Quintette - War Dance For Wooden Indians

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austin_blue  Apr 4, 2021 • 10:08:00pm

Oh, and here’s a little Easter-adjacent song from Chaski (She Who Must Be Obeyed is the harpist). It’s an old Scottish folk tune, best known by me from Cat Stevens’ Teaser and the Firecat.

Chaski presents Morning Has Broken

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2021 • 10:23:18pm

re: #46 EstebanTornado1963

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It’s easy to understand Meghan’s frustration: She bet four years of her career on the idea that Trump would win and all her BS about Dems losing big for not winning over “Reasonable Republicans” like herself would come true…and lost big. Election Day 2020 was supposed to be here vindication, supposed to show people that she’d been right all those times when she said Dems would have to appeal to people like her to beat Trump. The ones who went into last year convinced that it was a “can’t lose” situation for themselves and so acted as horribly as possible because they figured the worst scenario they faced was a slim victory against a guy they were sure simply couldn’t win.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 4, 2021 • 10:23:50pm

John Oliver rocks.
His main topic this week is the debt. 4 stars. would recommend.

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2021 • 10:29:26pm

Bad news, folks: Matt Gaetz has lost his Dem friend:

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mmmirele  Apr 4, 2021 • 10:42:09pm

re: #54 Dread Pirate Ron

One thing people probably don’t know is that the Hashemite clan ruled Mecca (yes, THAT Mecca) from the 900s, were pushed out after World War I and given Jordan as a consolation prize. The House of Saud likes to call itself the guardians of the two sacred mosques, but in point of fact the Hashemite clan has a better claim to Mecca, if they had to have a king anyway. The Hashemites also have a very well documented claim to be direct descendants of the prophet Muhammad.

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mmmirele  Apr 4, 2021 • 10:49:17pm

re: #95 Amory Blaine

If I retire in 5 years, like it says on the calendar I might go back for a law degree. Just to be a dick.

When I started law school in 1986, there was a lot of complaint about the school enrolling a retired guy. The complaint was that there was so much competition for spots (even at my State U) and why would you enroll a guy who was probably never going to practice? (Maybe because he gave the law school a lot of money?) In any case, he died suddenly in his last semester and he was awarded his degree posthumously at graduation.

Today, if you have a BA in something, can fog a mirror, can spare the $100K - $150K on up for tuition (or find someone to loan it to you) they’ll let you in. There are too many law schools and they are NOT PICKY. ETA: IOW you may not have to agonize over taking the LSAT.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 4, 2021 • 11:06:48pm

re: #112 mmmirele

One thing people probably don’t know is that the Hashemite clan ruled Mecca (yes, THAT Mecca) from the 900s, were pushed out after World War I and given Jordan as a consolation prize. The House of Saud likes to call itself the guardians of the two sacred mosques, but in point of fact the Hashemite clan has a better claim to Mecca, if they had to have a king anyway. The Hashemites also have a very well documented claim to be direct descendants of the prophet Muhammad.

Indeed:

The Banu Hashim claim to trace their ancestry from Hashim ibn ‘Abd Manaf (died c. 497), the great-grandfather of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, although the definition today mainly refers to the descendants of Muhammad’s daughter Fatimah.

en.wikipedia.org.

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darthstar  Apr 4, 2021 • 11:09:34pm

Anybody else smell bullshit?
CALLING ALL NATIONAL MEDIA
Fucking Trump playbook.

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2021 • 11:23:50pm

re: #115 darthstar

Anybody else smell bullshit?
CALLING ALL NATIONAL MEDIA
Fucking Trump playbook.

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Seriously? A “former staffer” announces a presser using official Gaetz office letterhead…and there are actually people who think this is going to be anything other than more BS?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 4, 2021 • 11:25:37pm

re: #115 darthstar

Isn’t that the guy who quit a few days ago? He may be worth listening to.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 4, 2021 • 11:36:51pm

Don’t you hate when you leave a word out of your post?

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2021 • 11:49:20pm

re: #118 Dread Pirate Ron

Don’t you hate when you leave a word out of your post?

Imagine how we old-timers feel remembering back when the “edit” pencil wasn’t there. Your mistakes lived in infamy.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Apr 5, 2021 • 12:00:18am

Personal stuff

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 5, 2021 • 12:16:05am
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Targetpractice  Apr 5, 2021 • 12:20:43am

I’m sure people will be thrilled to learn that, as we move into the spring season and mark over a year since CV-19 went from being that thing we heard about on the news to being that thing we spent every waking hour worrying was going to kill us all, that the introduction of a vaccine and the lessening of worry of imminent death has returned most customers and guests to their natural state of mind: Total assholes.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Apr 5, 2021 • 12:26:01am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 5, 2021 • 1:40:28am

Birmingham police said there was an altercation among a group of men in Patton Park at around 7 p.m. local time. That then led to gunfire, which caused various injuries and at least one death. The person killed was a 32-year-old woman, police said. She is believed to have been a bystander and was found dead in the backseat of a car. The park was filled with families at the time of the shooting.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 5, 2021 • 1:49:31am

NBC news apparently doesn’t understand the word “INERT”, it must be the all capital letters that confuse them.

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John Hughes  Apr 5, 2021 • 1:53:21am

re: #125 Dread Pirate Ron

They’d be reduced to gibbering fear if they visited any seaside British town and saw the disarmed sea mine repurposed as a collecting box for the RNLI. (Royal National Lifeboat Institute, the people who organise the voluntary Lifeboat service).

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boredtechindenver  Apr 5, 2021 • 1:56:25am

I got my second shot this afternoon. I don’t expect any side effects other than maybe a slight fever, but I have a previously scheduled doctor’s appointment for quarterly diabetes checkup.

I do have something I need to report to my doctor. Since my first shot, I have had recurring shooting pain in my right thumb that feels like a hot wire, and my right thumb knuckle is numb on the outside surface. I was worried that it might be rheumatoid arthritis as that runs in my family, but my mother says that is not what RA feels like to her, so I will be reporting this to my doctor.

Even if it is a side effect, I would rather have the pain than Covid.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 5, 2021 • 2:23:13am

Canadians speak a funny version of French. Their French gets even weirder in New Brunswick.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Apr 5, 2021 • 3:10:27am

He looks great for his age, me on the other hand…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 5, 2021 • 3:26:59am

re: #129 Dread Pirate Ron

Dude’s been out of shape for half a century.

And in his younger days was infamous for his escapades in the brothels of Tijuana.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 5, 2021 • 3:32:57am

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Hank Williams - I’ll Never get Out of This World Alive [1952]



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jeffreyw  Apr 5, 2021 • 4:23:46am

Good morning!

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 5, 2021 • 5:07:00am

Earthquakes in LA, but a bunch of li’l ones. Baby quakes.

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2021 • 5:17:08am
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Teukka  Apr 5, 2021 • 5:20:24am

re: #77 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 5, 2021 • 5:35:14am

re: #130 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Dude’s been out of shape for half a century.

And in his younger days was infamous for his escapades in the brothels of Tijuana.

IIRC, during the Star Trek days in the ’60s, he had to sometimes wear a girdle because he’d get a little tubby.

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2021 • 5:43:31am

re: #133 The Pie Overlord!

Earthquakes in LA, but a bunch of li’l ones. Baby quakes.

Better baby quakes than the parents. It can rough and tumble when that happens. Foreshocks? Or just stress relief that 2020 is over.

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Dangerman  Apr 5, 2021 • 5:43:35am

right now

there are at least two iguanas hanging out

the other one was digging under the butterfly bed - we’re gonna have to do something about that - and when we came within 10 feet it took off for the fence line. this one didnt flinch and we were about a foot away.

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2021 • 5:47:11am

re: #134 Belafon

GOP hasn’t prioritized infrastructure spending for decades. The ARRA of 2009 was a fraction of what it should have been because the GOP slashed the size - and economists identify the too-small stimulus as a reason that it took far longer for the economy to recover from the Great Recession than it should have.

Biden’s not making the same mistakes.

He’s not going to let GOPers obstruct, delay, and water down the infrastructure bill either. He’s identified that the infrastructure needs have support of a majority of Americans, and tax hikes on the wealthy likewise get support. GOP in Congress care only about tax cuts, and don’t care about anything else (see also John Oliver’s latest on “The Debt!”)

The National Debt: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

The rich will continue to profit handsomely as they benefit from efficiencies in infrastructure just as everyone else does. It’s just that they will not see the tax cuts as they once did.

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Dangerman  Apr 5, 2021 • 5:53:40am

re: #139 lawhawk

GOP hasn’t prioritized infrastructure spending for decades. The ARRA of 2009 was a fraction of what it should have been because the GOP slashed the size - and economists identify the too-small stimulus as a reason that it took far longer for the economy to recover from the Great Recession than it should have.

Biden’s not making the same mistakes.

He’s not going to let GOPers obstruct, delay, and water down the infrastructure bill either. He’s identified that the infrastructure needs have support of a majority of Americans, and tax hikes on the wealthy likewise get support. GOP in Congress care only about tax cuts, and don’t care about anything else (see also John Oliver’s latest on “The Debt!”)

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The rich will continue to profit handsomely as they benefit from efficiencies in infrastructure just as everyone else does. It’s just that they will not see the tax cuts as they once did.

Biden is being president to/for all Americans
Not just the R senators in DC

This change in focus - delivering directly to America what it needs and forcing the senate to come along (or not) -, and that his plans are popular is pissing the Rs off cause there’s no counter argument and they can’t stop it

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A Mom Anon  Apr 5, 2021 • 5:57:49am

re: #140 Dangerman

All of the sudden “bipartisanship” means what the people want and need and have said over and over that’s what’s needed in our communities. Not what the GOP on Capitol Hill want. It’s about damned time.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 5, 2021 • 5:59:48am

re: #140 Dangerman

Biden is being president to/for all Americans
Not just the R senators in DC

This change in focus - delivering directly to America what it needs and forcing the senate to come along (or not) -, and that his plans are popular is pissing the Rs off cause there’s no counter argument and they can’t stop it

Until this passed, don’t assume they cannot stop it. A lot can happen between now and the date the legislation reaches the Senate; if Manchin switched parties or some Democrat has a health crisis that removed them from active participation, we would be facing the apocalypse. McConnell has no intention of allowing any meaningful legislation — other than tax cuts for the wealth — to pass while a Democrat is President.

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2021 • 6:07:55am
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No Malarkey!  Apr 5, 2021 • 6:15:22am

Social security recipients finally getting their $1,400 relief deposits today.

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2021 • 6:30:48am
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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2021 • 6:37:44am
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Belafon  Apr 5, 2021 • 6:43:57am

re: #146 lawhawk

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He should trademark TFG.

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Dangerman  Apr 5, 2021 • 6:54:09am

re: #146 lawhawk

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 5, 2021 • 6:58:31am

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yet everyone around him doesn’t seem to fear his finger on the trigger.

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Florida Panhandler  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:01:39am

re: #80 Amory Blaine

I was staying at a friend’s “spare” house in punta gorda fl. (mom died rip) for a week awhile back. Went on a walk in the hood and someone’s ground sprinklers came on and the misty water smelled like shit. I was like omg that sucks.

Very common for Florida homeowners to have their own private shallow water well just for lawn duty. The well water is terrible and typically leaves orange rust residue wherever it lands but long term makes economic sense instead of paying for high water bills.

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Dangerman  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:02:12am

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Dangerman  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:06:52am

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darthstar  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:07:06am

Almost sounds criminal.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:13:35am

This is ENORMOUS news:

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:17:18am

re: #157 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

This is ENORMOUS news:

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Massive.

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:17:44am

re: #157 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

This is ENORMOUS news:

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Which court ruled that way?

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:18:48am

re: #159 Belafon

Which court ruled that way?

None other than the Supreme Court of the United States, in a 6-2 decision.

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:21:23am

re: #156 darthstar

Trump’s campaign donation scams were criminal. They were designed to cause repeat payments and to make it more difficult for those caught in his scam to get their money back.

Trump purposefully designed those donations to become repeating payments. That was no accident and it’s bulkshit that media outlets are treating this like some accident or unfortunate set of circumstances.

Trump’s had to refund more than $100 million to his idiot donors.

That’s not an innocent error. That’s evidence of a systematic scam to deprive people of money to enrich his own efforts.

Prosecutors should be looking into this as well.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:25:54am

re: #161 lawhawk

Does AG James accept anonymous tips via the internet?

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Dangerman  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:26:34am

re: #156 darthstar

Almost sounds criminal.

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2020 the Trump campaign had 200,000 disputed transactions and refunded $122.7 million to donors.

Biden $6m, 37k

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:28:18am

re: #163 Dangerman

2020 the Trump campaign had 200,000 disputed transactions and refunded $122.7 million to donors.

Biden $6m, 37k

Biden saw an average refund of $162 each.

Trump saw average refund of $610 each.

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JC1  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:29:18am

re: #157 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

This is ENORMOUS news:

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Sanity prevails.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:29:37am

re: #121 Dread Pirate Ron

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Yeah. Just like how do they get the deer to cross the roads where they put those signs.

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:32:42am

re: #165 JC1

Sanity prevails.

Yes, and as my coworker said, anytime Oracle gets slapped is a good day.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:36:40am

re: #167 Belafon

Yes, and as my coworker said, anytime Oracle gets slapped is a good day.

I wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:36:49am

re: #167 Belafon

Yes, and as my coworker said, anytime Oracle gets slapped is a good day.

Any day that One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison gets screwed over, is a good one!

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Jay C  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:38:06am

re: #167 Belafon

Yes, and as my coworker said, anytime Oracle gets slapped is a good day.

You’re probably right, but what was the issue before the Court?

From Mike Dunford’s thread, I gather that Google had (had to?) copy some bits of Java code for something or other and Oracle was suing for infringement??

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:41:06am

re: #170 Jay C

Google was using Oracle APIs as part of its android systems. Oracle sued, citing infringement. Google claimed fair use of the APIs.

Google won, convincing the court that this was indeed fair use.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:42:39am

re: #170 Jay C

You’re probably right, but what was the issue before the Court?

From Mike Dunford’s thread, I gather that Google had (had to?) copy some bits of Java code for something or other and Oracle was suing for infringement??

The issue, as best I can summarize, is this: Java has a layer referred to in the opinion and popular parlance as an “API”. In my best non-technical terms, the API defines the names, parameters, and results of commands (functions, or methods, for the technical folks) that define Java. Google wanted to use this API for Android, because many programmers know Java. Oracle said, sure, but only if you do it our way. Google laughed in their faces and then went and built their own “Java”, using the same interface definition (API). Oracle sued, claiming copyright infringement. SCOTUS said, fuck you very much, have a nice day, they’re allowed to do that.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:44:03am

re: #138 Dangerman

right now

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there are at least two iguanas hanging out

the other one was digging under the butterfly bed - we’re gonna have to do something about that - and when we came within 10 feet it took off for the fence line. this one didnt flinch and we were about a foot away.

Mr. Lizard! A monster! Would you care for a HAMBURGAR?

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:46:16am
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Dangerman  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:46:43am

re: #138 Dangerman

right now

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there are at least two iguanas hanging out

the other one was digging under the butterfly bed - we’re gonna have to do something about that - and when we came within 10 feet it took off for the fence line. this one didnt flinch and we were about a foot away.

it looks like the iguanas are trying to dig a nest
we covered the bed in some screening hoping they’ll find somehwere else to dig - and not the jasmine bed 20 feet to the left

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:46:53am
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Dangerman  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:48:08am

bonnie and clyde
one digs
one stands lookout

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JC1  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:48:14am

re: #167 Belafon

Yes, and as my coworker said, anytime Oracle gets slapped is a good day.

The only company I like seeing slapped down more is Rambus.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:50:38am

re: #178 JC1

The only company I like seeing slapped down more is Rambus.

Guilty confession: I thought RDRAM was a cool technology and built a box using it. That box, now that I look back on it, was the shortest-lived box I owned.

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Dangerman  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:51:15am

re: #176 lawhawk

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the means and manner to obtain the ID are what’s racist

Rand needs to read the constitution. he should talk to madison cawthorne upthread

but then, they both already know what they’re saying is nonsense

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:52:24am

re: #180 Dangerman

But their idiotic know nothing base doesn’t care about facts, law, or reality.

They’ve bought into the baffling bulkshit and that’s all their worm infested brains are able to contain. Fox has ruined generations of Americans with their know nothing misinformation.

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mmmirele  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:52:49am

re: #161 lawhawk

Trump’s campaign donation scams were criminal. They were designed to cause repeat payments and to make it more difficult for those caught in his scam to get their money back.

Trump purposefully designed those donations to become repeating payments. That was no accident and it’s bulkshit that media outlets are treating this like some accident or unfortunate set of circumstances.

Trump’s had to refund more than $100 million to his idiot donors.

That’s not an innocent error. That’s evidence of a systematic scam to deprive people of money to enrich his own efforts.

Prosecutors should be looking into this as well.

If it weren’t a presidential campaign for a major party, that merchant would have lost its credit card processor. The article says that 10 percent of their donations harvested via this method (~$12 million) were returned. Some of them were obvious, like the guy who “donated” $8,000 via Trump’s checkbox scheme. This is WAY above the $2,900 an individual can donate and the money would have to be refunded. It was a way of getting a short term loan on the back of Trump’s contributors.

But being one to three percent of fraud claims at banks? That’s HUGE. Think about how many merchants there are who take credit cards. Millions? But to have one merchant, for a short time, pop to the top, that’s huge.

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JC1  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:56:17am

re: #179 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

Guilty confession: I thought RDRAM was a cool technology and built a box using it. That box, now that I look back on it, was the shortest-lived box I owned.

Their tech was okay for certain applications. My issue with them was their IMHO completely unethical behavior and litigious nature. No engineering company should employ more lawyers than engineers and base their business model on suing everybody for billions.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:57:07am

re: #183 JC1

Their tech was okay for certain applications. My issue with them was their IMHO completely unethical behavior and litigious nature. No engineering company should employ more lawyers than engineers and base their business model on suing everybody for billions.

This was my problem with SCO. Greatest day of my life was when SCO v. IBM was decided and poor ol’ Darl McBride had to slink off and declare bankruptcy.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:58:18am

re: #178 JC1

Rambus.

AH, those were the days when Rambus was considered a gorilla, just like Intel was from that notorious book “The Gorilla Game”. While both companies are still around Rambus is basically a shell of its former self, while Intel is having to fight against AMD.

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:59:14am

re: #182 mmmirele

Any retailer that had that kind of refund rate would normally see their processing fees hiked, or suspended altogether. There are rules about refund rates.

How those fees are refunded also makes a huge difference. If the processor keeps the interchange and imposes fees, Trumpworld would be out even more money. That’s as good as a fine.

If we’re talking $122 million in refunds, that’s huge. How was that refund handled? If Trumpworld lost the interchange and saw fees placed on top, that’s a considerable amount - and only knowing the specific terms of the credit card processing would clarify.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:59:30am

re: #180 Dangerman

the means and manner to obtain the ID are what’s racist

Rand needs to read the constitution. he should talk to madison cawthorne upthread

but then, they both already know what they’re saying is nonsense

The meme I saw this morning: MLB teams make you show ID when you pickup tickets at their Will Call window, but they don’t want ID to vote.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Apr 5, 2021 • 7:59:34am

re: #132 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

Mum and dad were off foraging, so I got this barely visible shot of the chicks. They’ll be gone in a week or so, and juncos don’t reuse their nests, so the crisis is almost over.

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JC1  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:01:23am

re: #185 Eric The Fruit Bat

AH, those were the days when Rambus was considered a gorilla, just like Intel was from that notorious book “The Gorilla Game”. While both companies are still around Rambus is basically a shell of its former self, while Intel is having to fight against AMD.

Unless a miracle happens, Intel is a dead Corp walking. They won’t catch up with AMD until at least 2023 and both companies will face increasing competition from ARM variants.

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O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:02:13am

re: #189 JC1

Unless a miracle happens, Intel is a dead Corp walking. They won’t catch up with AMD until at least 2023 and both companies will face increasing competition from ARM variants.

I had a friend asking me, once Apple switched their new Macbooks to ARM processors, why everyone wasn’t doing it. Inertia was basically the only answer I could come up with.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:08:09am

Over 8 million vaccinated this weekend!

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danarchy  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:09:07am

re: #180 Dangerman

the means and manner to obtain the ID are what’s racist

Rand needs to read the constitution. he should talk to madison cawthorne upthread

but then, they both already know what they’re saying is nonsense

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I think the voter ID thing is just a whole lot to do about nothing. Multiple studies have shown that where it has been implemented it has a negligible effect on voter fraud which is pretty negligible anyhow, but it also has a negligible effect on voter turnout.

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Mattand  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:09:19am

re: #190 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

I had a friend asking me, once Apple switched their new Macbooks to ARM processors, why everyone wasn’t doing it. Inertia was basically the only answer I could come up with.

Leo LaPorte and the various panelists on his TWiT podcasts, both Apple and non-Apple users, are calling the new M1 chips massive game changers.

One thing that I can’t wrap my head around is that these machines do away with the concept of user added RAM sticks. The RAM isn’t soldered on to the motherboard, it’s basically in the damn chip.

You’re stuck with whatever RAM the computer comes with, but apparently these things scream.

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:09:49am

re: #187 Sherlock Hound

The meme I saw this morning: MLB teams make you show ID when you pickup tickets at their Will Call window, but they don’t want ID to vote.

The actual worst part of the Georgia law is not the ID or the giving people water. it’s the fact that the legislature can just replace an local election board as they see fit.

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:11:11am

re: #191 No Malarkey!

Over 8 million vaccinated this weekend!

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Hopefully we can switch to helping other countries soon.

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JC1  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:11:15am

re: #190 O say, does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave..

I had a friend asking me, once Apple switched their new Macbooks to ARM processors, why everyone wasn’t doing it. Inertia was basically the only answer I could come up with.

Millions of pieces of windows software that won’t run on ARM.

Apple isn’t selling their chip to anyone else, and other ARM chips aren’t as good.

X86/AMD64 gets crapped on a lot, yet it’s still here after PowerPC, Itanium, Dec Alpha, Sun Spark, etc have failed.

Maybe ARM will finally knock it out. Time will tell.

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Jay C  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:11:17am

re: #191 No Malarkey!

Over 8 million vaccinated this weekend!

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This is truly impressive: given the size of the US, and the US population (and the brain-dead attitudes about the virus and vaccine so disgracefully prevalent here), I would not have thought we would be leading the pack in that particular metric.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:12:12am

re: #194 Belafon

The actual worst part of the Georgia law is not the ID or the giving people water. it’s the fact that the legislature can just replace an local election board as they see fit.

The GQP is setting up to ignore votes cast by black Democrats so that they can award electors to Trump in 2024 no matter how the people vote.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:15:01am

re: #197 Jay C

This is truly impressive: given the size of the US, and the US population (and the brain-dead attitudes about the virus and vaccine so disgracefully prevalent here), I would not have thought we would be leading the pack in that particular metric.

The Administration is doing a bang up job. And as millions get vaccinated without sparking a zombie apocalypse, vaccine reluctance is declining, though there will be a hard core of anti-vaccers who refuse no matter what. Hopefully not enough to prevent herd immunity.

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Dangerman  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:15:58am

a thread or two back y’all were talking about parts of the United States, and the deep south.

Over the years i’ve ridden through every one of the 48.

I’ve met wonderful people most everywhere.
Never anyone directly hostile and looking back, I can’t think of any overtly bad experiences.

That’s with a loud obnoxious Harley with new york plates (back then).
I sure was wary of what might happen in ‘the south’.

The nicest people I ever met, the two most memorable encounters still resonate:
Mississippi and Alabama.

story and a couple of pix.

Click to Reveal

On a ride from NOLA to memphis in the late 80’s the bike started to wheeze and cough somewhere in

mississippi. i limped into a honda dealer i want to say in Greenville. I said i know you guys dont know anything about harleys but can you help?

They were not busy and two fellas spent close to 2 hours testing and troubleshooting from the point of view

of highschool engine mechanics. spark, gas, air, etc. then a 3rd joined in becaus it was a challenge. They finally found it. A carb gasket had disintegrated from the engine heat. Sucking air through the gap so the fuel mxture was off. they pulled the carb, used liquid gasket and charged me like $40. I was off before dark and back in memphis for dinner.

Next day i took it to the local harley dealer, told them the story and asked them to re-fix it. they said the job was perfect. They wouldnt touch it, and i never did. I put a lot of miles on that gasket.

I wrote to Honda.

During a one year grand tour in ‘92-93 I wound up in a small fishing campground on Weiss lake in Alabama. How I got there is an eerie story for another time.

i pulled in and met the nicest elderly campground owners. friendly and accommodating.
One of the locals, whose name i no longer recall, lived in a small trailer there.

i was tent camping. a huge storm came through at night - they were all worried for me but i wouldnt quit and seek the shelter of a camper.

turned out fine and next day i have a new buddy, wants to take me sight seeing.
(remember NY plates and Im sure he saw the horns we all have)

we get in his car and take off, literally for the hills; totally at his mercy. do you hear Dueling Banjos?

we come out in an upper valley somewhere in the mountains and it’s a huge flea market / swap meet, the likes of which i had never seen. totally different from the old Roosevelt Raceway ‘flea market’ on long island.

I had a blast of a time.

i took off a couple of days later for Jacksboro TN to pick up the trailer i had just bought and that i’d end up

putting 50k miles or so on it.

Mississippi and Alabama. whodathunkit?
i wasnt a NY snob. just full of prejudgement.
30-40 years later i still remember these folks well enough.
They changed my view of Americans, the world and myself.

‘the rig’ - years later, riding to teach a scuba class in Ft. Lauderdale, the Keys, Pennsylvania, etc.

Boise City, OK around 2007

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:17:38am

re: #192 danarchy

I think the voter ID thing is just a whole lot to do about nothing. Multiple studies have shown that where it has been implemented it has a negligible effect on voter fraud which is pretty negligible anyhow, but it also has a negligible effect on voter turnout.

Gee, are those “studies” from The Heritage or Cato think tanks?

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:18:48am

re: #142 Hecuba’s daughter

Until this passed, don’t assume they cannot stop it. A lot can happen between now and the date the legislation reaches the Senate; if Manchin switched parties or some Democrat has a health crisis that removed them from active participation, we would be facing the apocalypse. McConnell has no intention of allowing any meaningful legislation — other than tax cuts for the wealth — to pass while a Democrat is President.

Of the ten oldest senators, seven are Republicans. One party is in just as great jeopardy as the other, particularly when the midterms come.

Why would Manchin change parties? So he can get primaried from the right down the line?

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Dangerman  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:19:30am

re: #186 lawhawk

Any retailer that had that kind of refund rate would normally see their processing fees hiked, or suspended altogether. There are rules about refund rates.

How those fees are refunded also makes a huge difference. If the processor keeps the interchange and imposes fees, Trumpworld would be out even more money. That’s as good as a fine.

If we’re talking $122 million in refunds, that’s huge. How was that refund handled? If Trumpworld lost the interchange and saw fees placed on top, that’s a considerable amount - and only knowing the specific terms of the credit card processing would clarify.

if i understand it, a sizable chunk of that $122m was not credit cards but direct debits to bank accounts.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:23:54am

re: #193 Mattand

Leo LaPorte and the various panelists on his TWiT podcasts, both Apple and non-Apple users, are calling the new M1 chips massive game changers.

One thing that I can’t wrap my head around is that these machines do away with the concept of user added RAM sticks. The RAM isn’t soldered on to the motherboard, it’s basically in the damn chip.

You’re stuck with whatever RAM the computer comes with, but apparently these things scream.

I can vouch for that. The M1 MacBook Air and M1 MacMini are a lot faster. Example—Playing chess with either, they calculate faster and deeper than the Intel Mac mini i7 which is now my backup hooked to my TV.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:25:34am

The vaccines are working.

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calochortus  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:27:20am

re: #205 No Malarkey!

The vaccines are working.

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Which is good, but bear in mind that yesterday was Easter and a lot of things may have happened but not yet have been reported.

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:29:05am

re: #205 No Malarkey!

The vaccines are working.

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That’s a pretty big drop for one day, as there were 800 the previous day:

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Dangerman  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:29:46am

re: #187 Sherlock Hound

The meme I saw this morning: MLB teams make you show ID when you pickup tickets at their Will Call window, but they don’t want ID to vote.

i walked into a local restaurant last night to pick up a to go order
i gave my first name

they couldnt find it
said someone with the same name just picked it up 10 minutes ago

i pulled out my phone and showed them the order, then found it in the system and remade it

it’s not high volume these days and obviously they gave the wrong guy the wrong order based on casual ‘what’s your name’

just as easy to say what’s your order number or show me the email or whatever.
i guess that’s what they’ll be doing from now on.

these are just basic confirmation and confusion avoidance situations.
they are designed to ensure the person who already paid or reserved, gets their merchandise.

these are not constitutional crises.

these anti-voting laws are not designed to ensure that everyone who wants to vote can. they are designed to make it harder to get ID to vote and to then actually vote.

want to call it ‘voting rights’, ‘voting integrity’, ‘voting protection’ or whatever?
make it easy and fair for everyone who wants an ID to get one
make it easy and fair for everyone who wants to vote to be able to.

at a minimum that means
- distance to voting places
- time in line
- reasonable alternate procedures - mail/absentee for anyone who can’t or won’t make it to the polls

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:30:35am

re: #200 Dangerman

a thread or two back y’all were talking about parts of the United States, and the deep south.

Over the years i’ve ridden through every one of the 48.

I’ve met wonderful people most everywhere.
Never anyone directly hostile and looking back, I can’t think of any overtly bad experiences.

That’s with a loud obnoxious Harley with new york plates (back then).
I sure was wary of what might happen in ‘the south’.

The nicest people I ever met, the two most memorable encounters still resonate:
Mississippi and Alabama.

story and a couple of pix.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:32:40am

re: #197 Jay C

This is truly impressive: given the size of the US, and the US population (and the brain-dead attitudes about the virus and vaccine so disgracefully prevalent here), I would not have thought we would be leading the pack in that particular metric.

The massive size of the US health care system, plus the underlying infrastructure, means that if there is the will, America can still do amazing things.

America’s strength has always been infrastructure. The grid, the highway system, the ability to move goods and people across the nation - no other place on earth has anything close. It is the result of enormous wealth, a single governmental system that has spanned the nation in both space and time, and no major wars to destroy infrastructure for 150 years.

America’s ability to do amazing things and great good is unparalleled. The fact that it refuses to do so just so a few people can be its new aristocracy is all the more heartbreaking and galling.

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:32:45am

re: #205 No Malarkey!

Weekend reporting is notoriously lower than the weekly rates. Let’s see the 3/7 day moving averages before celebrating. Cases are still on upswing, including in NYC metro, despite more vaccinations getting done.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:36:50am

re: #211 lawhawk

PA cases are rising too. Time will tell as to COVID-19.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:38:11am

re: #207 Belafon

That’s a pretty big drop for one day, as there were 800 the previous day:

[Embedded content]

Holiday weekend. This might easily be a lag in reporting.

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Teukka  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:52:46am
215
b.d. (America is Great Again)  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:53:14am

re: #213 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Holiday weekend. This might easily be a lag in reporting.

You don’t want to declare anyone really dead on Easter.

//

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:55:08am

re: #215 b.d. (America is Great Again)

You don’t want to declare anyone really dead on Easter.

//

Does it really count as dying if they come back to life later?

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Dangerman  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:56:48am
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) issued a statement accusing U.S. corporations that oppose the GOP-sponsored law curbing voting access in Georgia of using “economic blackmail” to spread “disinformation,” Axios reports.

Said McConnell: “We are witnessing a coordinated campaign by powerful and wealthy people to mislead and bully the American people.”

aside from i cant stop laughing, why do the R’s hate capitalism?

and isn’t the italics basically the entire tactical philosophy of the Republican Party?

finally, mitch certainly took a more muted tone when his own President tried to overthrow the government

shameless

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:57:32am

Trump: Boycott Coke because of speaking out against Georgia’s voter suppression efforts.

GOP: sure thing boss.

Trump in 2017: Boycott Pepsi because they’re bad (and not making Diet Coke)

GOP: Sure thing boss.

Wait… what the fuck are we supposed to drink, if we can’t drink Coke or Pepsi. I’m not drinking that RC Cola crapola. /half

The reality is that these boycotts are bulkshit, and GOP efforts to silence Coke because they ultimately came out against voter suppression shows the extent to which the GOP is a fascist party.

219
GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 5, 2021 • 8:59:12am

re: #218 lawhawk

There’s always Faygo Cola.

220
PhillyPretzel  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:00:20am

re: #218 lawhawk

re: #219 GlutenFreeJesus

Seltzer.

221
Belafon  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:00:26am

re: #204 🌹UOJB!

I can vouch for that. The M1 MacBook Air and M1 MacMini are a lot faster. Example—Playing chess with either, they calculate faster and deeper than the Intel Mac mini i7 which is now my backup hooked to my TV.

So we’re back to the RISC vs CISC battle. I love how computing goes in cycles, very much like how we’re now moving more in a mainframe style of work with the cloud.

222
Teddy's Person  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:01:03am

re: #217 Dangerman

Said McConnell: “We are witnessing a coordinated campaign by powerful and wealthy people to mislead and bully the American people.”

Mitch added: “How dare they. That’s my job.”

223
🌹UOJB!  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:04:41am

re: #219 GlutenFreeJesus

There’s always Faygo Cola.

And RC which was my favorite when I was a kid!

224
🌹UOJB!  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:07:20am

re: #214 Teukka

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Ain’t nothin like Xtian love for the KKKlan!

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Dangerman  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:12:02am

the atlantic / David Graham

“If these scandals seem to demand an explanation for how a member of Congress, entrusted to hold power in Washington, could behave in such a way, the reality may be the opposite: Only a member of Congress could behave like this and get away with it.”

“Whether Gaetz’s alleged behavior rose to the criminal is yet to be seen, but if true, it would have gotten him fired long ago in any conventional gig. Congress is no normal gig, though. It is, almost by design, a hostile workplace.”

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Dangerman  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:12:36am

re: #222 Teddy’s Person

Mitch added: “How dare they. That’s my job.”

exacto

sucks being an impotent minority ‘leader’

227
A Cranky One  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:16:26am

228
wrenchwench  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:16:29am

re: #200 Dangerman

Great stories!

Boise City, OK around 2007

I was there in 1986, on a bike ride* from PA to CA, with the man I married in 2014. When I complimented the pie at the diner, the waitress said, ‘It’s pretty good, for store boughten!’

*no motors (ed. to clarify)

229
Dangerman  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:24:44am

re: #228 wrenchwench

Great stories!

I was there in 1986, on a bike ride* from PA to CA, with the man I married in 2014. When I complimented the pie at the diner, the waitress said, ‘It’s pretty good, for store boughten!’

*no motors (ed. to clarify)

;-)

back in NY, way back around 85 i was on a blind date
i said i’d just come back from riding my bike to memphis
she said that’s a long way and i said yeah
guess i didnt mention i went down in one overnight
then she said she had a bike too. i beamed and said what kind
Schwinn
so i explained…
we didnt have a second date. i dont think that was why

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Mattand  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:26:36am

Current lead article at Politico:

Biden’s Next Big Bill Could Revive -or Bury- His Bipartisan Brand

Wow, deep political insight there.

The Phillies just started their new season. Their amount of wins could get them in -or deny them- a trip to the World Series.

The sun is shining today. The amount of time you spend it could cause -or not cause- a bad sunburn

Your body needs oxygen to survive. The amount you take in could determine if you live -or die.

I honestly think they have a bot generating their headlines.

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wrenchwench  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:29:16am

re: #229 Dangerman

;-)

back in NY, way back around 85 i was on a blind date
i said i’d just come back from riding my bike to memphis
she said that’s a long way and i said yeah
guess i didnt mention i went down in one overnight
then she said she had a bike too. i beamed and said what kind
Schwinn
so i explained…
we didnt have a second date. i dont think that was why

I was on a red Univega Novara Sport, 12 speed at the time (18 later). 2 weeks ago, my assistent manager rode his bike to work for the first time. It was a red Univega Novara Sport. The opposite end of the size offerings.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:30:07am

re: #213 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Holiday weekend. This might easily be a lag in reporting.

This isn’t the first holiday weekend since last March.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:34:47am
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:37:19am

re: #227 A Cranky One

Cute, but except for the woman part, demonstrably false. The FF were eliminating property qualifications as the Constitution was being debated and ratified — they were pretty much all gone by 1804. They were also abolishing slavery — not in the southern colonies, of course, but absolutely they were not uniformly in favor of the institution. Abolitionism didn’t start with the Dred Scott decision.

ETA: Most of the people we call Founding Fathers spent the years between the Stamp Tax Act and the Declaration making themselves the best read government-builders in history. And they spent their spare time debating among themselves, so I’d say they definitely deserve to be listened to — and not in tweet-length bites.

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:39:51am

re: #234 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Cute, but except for the woman part, demonstrably false. The FF were eliminating property qualifications as the Constitution was being debated and ratified — they were pretty much all gone by 1804. They were also abolishing slavery — not in the southern colonies, of course, but absolutely they were not uniformly in favor of the institution. Abolitionism didn’t start with the Dred Scott decision.

Slavery was written into the constitution. The Founding Fathers were ok with it enough to keep it in even if they were opposed.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:43:00am

re: #235 Belafon

Slavery was written into the constitution. The Founding Fathers were ok with it enough to keep it in even if they were opposed.

Their choice was between the US with slavery or no country at all. And slavery would still be there.

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:49:33am

re: #236 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Their choice was between the US with slavery or no country at all. And slavery would still be there.

Therefore, those founding the country were ok with slaves and amendments had to be passed to end it.

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A Cranky One  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:54:54am

The founding fathers weren’t monolithic in their beliefs nor were they infallible. I think the point is that often the reverence given them and the devotion to the idea that the intent of the founding fathers is paramount is ridiculous.

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🌹UOJB!  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:55:22am

re: #230 Mattand

Current lead article at Politico:

Wow, deep political insight there.

I honestly think the have a bot generating their headlines.

Charlie Pierce correctly refers to those GOP Stenographers as Tiger Beat On The Potomac

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Apr 5, 2021 • 9:57:59am

re: #237 Belafon

Therefore, those founding the country were ok with slaves and amendments had to be passed to end it.

Therefore, those founding the country believed that having a country at all was better than no country. There was NO WAY they could have abolished slavery at that time, and they considered this the lesser evil.

Did someone mention purity ponies?

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sagehen  Apr 5, 2021 • 10:01:21am

re: #192 danarchy

I think the voter ID thing is just a whole lot to do about nothing. Multiple studies have shown that where it has been implemented it has a negligible effect on voter fraud which is pretty negligible anyhow, but it also has a negligible effect on voter turnout.

Voter ID for absentee ballots (two copies) means you need access to a copy machine. I live in a big crowded city, so there’s a shipping/etc store only 4 blocks away that charges only 50¢ per page. For people not in big crowded cities, it’s probably more than 4 blocks to a copy machine. And in some places, more than 50¢ per page.

That’s a poll tax.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 5, 2021 • 10:10:06am

re: #216 Belafon

Does it really count as dying if they come back to life later?

Especially if they may only be “mostly dead”.

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Alephnaught  Apr 5, 2021 • 10:23:19am

re: #27 Dread Pirate Ron

How can person from race [A] be racist to person of race [B]? Well, it’s pretty simple: if person of race [A] is pedalling racial stereotypes of race [B] to a person of race [B], then person of race [A] is being racist. It doesn’t matter which race that person of race [A] is, what matters is the pedalling of racist stereotypes of race [B] towards a person of race [B]. That’s the racism, and it doesn’t matter what race [A] is, it’s still racism against [B].


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