The Killers Live: “Runaway Horses”

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Lyrics:
Small town girl
Coca Cola grin
Honeysuckle skin
Born beneath the ready sign
Of a strawberry moon
Small town girl
Shows up for her friends
Crazy about The Bends
I was there when she first put away childish things
We had spring in our heels
Unwavering forces
Headfirst into the unknown
Like runaway horses
In a fever till the end
And every step is a silver prayer
In the face of a hard wind
You traded school
For weddings rings and rent
Invitations sent
Of you and him by a barn
Out on the edge of town
Small town girl
Put your dreams on ice
Never thinking twice
Some you’ll surely forget
And some that you never will
There was a promise in our stride
But we changed courses
Headfirst into the unknown
Like runaway horses
In a fever till the end
And every step is a silver prayer
In the face of a hard wind
Like runaway horses
It’s a long way back home again
When every step is a silver prayer
In the face of a hard wind

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 17, 2021 • 8:26:55pm

This youtuber in Iceland often goes to places around the Fagradalsfjall volcano that others do not, so he gets shots that are not common.

Notice the guy standing on the lava (even as hot lava is outgassing not far from him?) Apparently an American.

GELDINGDALUR aka CASTRATION VALLEY IN DUSK 🔥 Lava is 60 to 100 m. thick here!!

Note also that the videographer, in the title, translates what “gelding” means in Geldingadalir. (Note that “dal” means valley.)

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austin_blue  Aug 17, 2021 • 8:34:35pm

Paris, Texas has added masks to the dress code.

Unexpected.

Also, extremely clever.

Adding it to the dress code means it isn’t subject to State “No Masking Mandates” because of how that law was written.

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Belafon  Aug 17, 2021 • 8:35:06pm
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plansbandc  Aug 17, 2021 • 8:36:39pm

re: #3 Belafon

A remake on netflix could be cool.

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gwangung  Aug 17, 2021 • 8:37:56pm

re: #4 plansbandc

They tried with a South Asian female lead….

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gocart mozart  Aug 17, 2021 • 8:40:53pm
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ckkatz  Aug 17, 2021 • 8:47:59pm

re: #1 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Thanks for posting the videos on Geldingdalur! It’s fun following along!

The volcanic system’s Icelandic is Fagradalsfjall which translates into English as follows:

fagur - fair
dalur - dale
fjall - fell (hill)

Note:
fell (noun)
a hill or other area of high land, especially in northwest England
dictionary.cambridge.org

en.wikipedia.org

And yes -
Geldingadalir
divides into
gelding (usually refers to human or ram in Icelandic) - gelding (castrated, English generally uses gelding to refer to a castrated horse)
dalur - dale

tl;dr - probably refers to local farms and local farm animals. Possibly refers to some participants in some brutal battles during the 12th and 13th centuries.
hiticeland.com

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austin_blue  Aug 17, 2021 • 8:48:46pm

re: #6 gocart mozart

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I still have the ticket from the first time I saw Bruce. It was at Gaston Hall at Georgetown University in 1973. Good dog, what a show.

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austin_blue  Aug 17, 2021 • 9:00:24pm

Night all, sleep well.

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Sherlock Hound  Aug 17, 2021 • 9:05:07pm

re: #7 ckkatz

The Middlesex Fells, just northwest of Boston, come to mind.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 17, 2021 • 9:09:23pm

re: #7 ckkatz

tl;dr - probably refers to local farms and local farm animals. Possibly refers to some participants in some brutal battles during the 12th and 13th centuries.

One of the owners of the property on which the current eruption is taking place has a Facebook page, and participates on a Youtube channel that follows the current eruption.

He claims the land has been in his family for over 800 years.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 17, 2021 • 9:16:27pm
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ckkatz  Aug 17, 2021 • 9:21:18pm

re: #11 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

One of the owners of the property on which the current eruption is taking place has a Facebook page, and participates on a Youtube channel that follows the current eruption.

He claims the land has been in his family for over 800 years.

That is quite believable.

Sounds like his family may have just arrived in time for those brutal battles.

I understand that the Icelandic population has been fairly stable (as well as small and isolated) for over a thousand years. Apparently because of this, there is even a dating smartphone app called the Book of Icelanders (Islendingabok) that goes through the genealogy of the interested parties and identifies how related they are.

The stability and small size of the population are quite a change from the usual American mindset.

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gocart mozart  Aug 17, 2021 • 9:27:07pm
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ckkatz  Aug 17, 2021 • 9:32:06pm

re: #10 Sherlock Hound

The Middlesex Fells, just northwest of Boston, come to mind.

I had been reading that the usage of fell for hill was mostly from Northwestern England. So I checked a podcast I was listening to on the English dialect origins of New England.

It was saying that most of the original wave of settlers of New England came from Southwest England. With the following waves coming from Southeast England, particularly East Anglia, and from the Southeast coast directly above London.

So not sure about the etymological history of the Middlesex Fells.

Btw, here’s what the lecture said about the original settlers in Virginia:

The first English-speaking settlement in America was Jamestown,
in the Tidewater area of Virginia. Most of the early English-speaking
settlers in the Tidewater region came from southern and southwestern
England. They were Cavaliers, Royalists who left England as a result
of the English Civil War that unseated their king. They were gentrified,
conservative, and oriented toward England despite their distance.

Also traveling along with the Cavaliers were people of a very different
social class: indentured servants who received passage to the New
World in exchange for a period of servitude on the wealthy Cavaliers’
extensive farmlands.

About 40,000 Cavaliers and servants arrived in the first three-quarters
of the 17th century, and their ways of life, and ways of talking, were
to have persistent founder effects on Southern culture and on the
Southern dialect.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 17, 2021 • 9:32:21pm

Ivermectin. Even Merck, who manufactures it, says it does not work on COVID. And keep reading for the side effects.

merck.com

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gocart mozart  Aug 17, 2021 • 9:37:56pm
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Belafon  Aug 17, 2021 • 9:38:16pm
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Belafon  Aug 17, 2021 • 9:40:14pm

Every job should also be required to have health insurance and paid vacation so that no company has an excuse to give out a less than fulltime job:

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stpaulbear  Aug 17, 2021 • 9:41:16pm

I called Walgreens to refill a prescription this evening and they played me a message that they are giving Covid booster shots to those who qualify. I may be able to qualify as one of the ubiquitous fat people that folks like to rag on so much these days. Diabetes too!! I got a tetanus booster shot a couple weeks ago and I’ve heard that may work as a booster against Covid. I’m still wearing a mask everywhere I go anyway because morons.

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plansbandc  Aug 17, 2021 • 9:45:28pm

re: #20 stpaulbear

As an ample person myself, I’m hoping to get a booster soon also. Dude is ample and diabetic, so he definitely needs one too. I’m sure when they’re available, the health dept. will let us know. NM has really been organized with the vaxx.

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ckkatz  Aug 17, 2021 • 9:47:30pm

re: #19 Belafon

Every job should also be required to have health insurance and paid vacation so that no company has an excuse to give out a less than fulltime job:

I agree with you.

Certainly we are hearing a public policy debate on the health care portion.

I suspect that we are slowly moving towards having the government taking over health care.

I also suspect that most companies would have no problem socializing that cost.

While the healthcare/health insurance industry is opposed. (At 1/4th of the US economy, it has a lot of money and political clout right now.)

eta - corrected typo

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 17, 2021 • 9:53:14pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 17, 2021 • 9:54:07pm
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gwangung  Aug 17, 2021 • 9:57:11pm

re: #14 gocart mozart

Kinda lame as apologies go. Republican politician level.

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stpaulbear  Aug 17, 2021 • 9:58:04pm

re: #21 plansbandc

As an ample person myself, I’m hoping to get a booster soon also. Dude is ample and diabetic, so he definitely needs one too. I’m sure when they’re available, the health dept. will let us know. NM has really been organized with the vaxx.

I don’t think I would have gotten the message from Wags if it wasn’t already approved in MN. Not a big fan of getting shots at the local Wags. Last time across from me there was a lady waiting without a mask with a deep bronchial cough. She finally put a mask on over her mouth but not her nose. I hate everybody…

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gocart mozart  Aug 17, 2021 • 10:01:13pm

I looked it up. 48.8 Celsius = 119.84 Fahrenheit

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Belafon  Aug 17, 2021 • 10:05:48pm

Reading through this really sad thread of people not knowing how to do PEMDAS:

And this guy put the best explanation for why you have to follow it:

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stpaulbear  Aug 17, 2021 • 10:07:00pm

re: #27 gocart mozart

I looked it up. 48.8 Celsius = 119.84 Fahrenheit

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Look on the bright side. Europe will cool down perty gud if the Gulf Stream collapses.

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gocart mozart  Aug 17, 2021 • 10:21:44pm
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JOE 🥓  Aug 17, 2021 • 10:23:00pm

re: #29 stpaulbear

Look on the bright side. Europe will cool down perty gud if the Gulf Stream collapses.

Memories of the Man From U.N.C.L.E. episode “The Concrete Overcoat Affair” where Bad Guy Jack Palance and his evil sidekick Janet Leigh want to detonate a set of nuclear explosions that would divert the Gulf Stream to warm up Greenland…

Part 1

dailymotion.com

Part 2

dailymotion.com

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ckkatz  Aug 17, 2021 • 10:27:26pm

Well, off to bed with me. But first a ‘Dad joke’:

It’s a five minute walk from my house to the neighborhood bar.

It’s a 35 minute walk back from that bar to my house.

The difference is staggering.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 17, 2021 • 10:33:55pm

re: #32 ckkatz

Well, off to bed with me. But first a ‘Dad joke’:

It’s a five minute walk from my house to the neighborhood bar.

It’s a 35 minute walk back from that bar to my house.

The difference is staggering.

Memories of this immortal scene with WC and Shemp!

20dollarbill

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Targetpractice  Aug 17, 2021 • 10:37:51pm

re: #23 DodgerFan1988

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And in another month, these assholes will excuse their opposition to resettling refugees here in the US by declaring “THEY SHOULD HAVE STAYED AND FOUGHT FOR THEIR COUNTRY!!!”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 17, 2021 • 10:54:08pm

re: #28 Belafon

That was circulating around Facebook the other day. Well, it started some time back I suppose, but it showed up in my timeline last week.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 17, 2021 • 10:57:35pm

re: #13 ckkatz

Iceland’s population couldn’t really grow as it can’t expand its agricultural production. Only with the recent advent of aluminum production does Iceland have a cash generating product by which to grow.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 17, 2021 • 11:00:22pm

Also, with the plague Norway sort of collapsed, and so did the need to sail west.

So Iceland had its population (of Scandinavian vikings and whatever slaves they could bring over from Ireland, etc.)

Fortunately the Iceland human population was large enough to escape the biological trap that befell the mammoth populations that were isolated a few thousand years earlier in various parts of North America and Asia, where fitness became a problem due to inbreeding.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 17, 2021 • 11:10:13pm

re: #15 ckkatz

I probably have ancestors from the Jamestown colony. Various online trees suggest such, but I’ve not been able to find documents that support it.

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The founders of Virginia also demonstrate that the claim (by America-God-firsters) that the US was founded to worship God… is just false.

Virginia was founded in order to gain wealth. The first English settlers were clueless about how to live in a “wild” land (they having come from a land that had millennia of land ownership and farming and established villages and hierarchies).

The “lost colony” demonstrated that effectively a few years prior.

Only be learning from the natives, and then importing slaves and indentured servants, could the English colonizers find their dreams of getting wealthy.

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sagehen  Aug 17, 2021 • 11:48:43pm

re: #36 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Iceland’s population couldn’t really grow as it can’t expand its agricultural production. Only with the recent advent of aluminum production does Iceland have a cash generating product by which to grow.

Don’t they have an export fishing industry? And they do pretty well with tourism…

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sagehen  Aug 17, 2021 • 11:53:21pm

re: #38 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I probably have ancestors from the Jamestown colony. Various online trees suggest such, but I’ve not been able to find documents that support it.

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The founders of Virginia also demonstrate that the claim (by America-God-firsters) that the US was founded to worship God… is just false.

Virginia was founded in order to gain wealth. The first English settlers were clueless about how to live in a “wild” land (they having come from a land that had millennia of land ownership and farming and established villages and hierarchies).

The “lost colony” demonstrated that effectively a few years prior.

Only be learning from the natives, and then importing slaves and indentured servants, could the English colonizers find their dreams of getting wealthy.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 18, 2021 • 12:04:38am

re: #39 sagehen

Don’t they have an export fishing industry? And they do pretty well with tourism…

Yes, and IIRC, they even had a mini-war with the UK over fishing rights not too long ago.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 18, 2021 • 12:11:56am

I can only imagine. I haven’t even had a flat yet. I did run out of battery down the hill from the house but I called in the support vehicle to load up the bike.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 18, 2021 • 12:30:34am

Impressive looking venue:

Giovanni Battista Pergolesi - Stabat Mater (Philippe Jaroussky, Emöke Barath, Orfeo 55)

..

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 18, 2021 • 12:45:06am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 18, 2021 • 1:03:25am

Kaniehti:io Horn, my dream girl from way back in 1968… before she was even born.

YouTube

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 18, 2021 • 1:14:34am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 18, 2021 • 1:35:35am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 18, 2021 • 1:38:49am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 18, 2021 • 1:47:12am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 18, 2021 • 1:49:26am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 18, 2021 • 1:58:33am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 2:11:52am

re: #18 Belafon

What’s a song you consider an absolute masterpiece, start to finish, no second of wasted time, every note just in a perfect spot, every word true?

Little Wing by Jimi Hendrix.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 2:13:43am

re: #27 gocart mozart

I looked it up. 48.8 Celsius = 119.84 Fahrenheit

Hotter than anything I ever experienced in Arizona in the 1980’s…I recall highs of 118°F

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 2:24:42am

re: #34 Targetpractice

And in another month, these assholes will excuse their opposition to resettling refugees here in the US by declaring “THEY SHOULD HAVE STAYED AND FOUGHT FOR THEIR COUNTRY!!!”

Sure, just give them another $2 trillion…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 2:27:15am

re: #38 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Only be learning from the natives, and then importing slaves and indentured servants, could the English colonizers find their dreams of getting wealthy.

In other words, they were too lazy to do the work themselves and too cheap to pay people, so they forced slaves to do the work for them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 2:32:06am

re: #47 Dread Pirate Ron

and one 1 ml³ of water weighs 1g, one liter of water weighs 1 kg.

Fucking brilliant.

“We had 3/8 inches of rain last night”…What does that mean to us in the US?

“We had 9.5 liters/m² of rain last night” tells Canadians (and most of the rest of the world) not only how deep it would be if collected but also how much volume we got, because one liter of rain spread of 1m² = 1 mm.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 2:36:06am

Wendell has caught up with the thread. You may return to your normal posting

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William Lewis  Aug 18, 2021 • 2:40:09am

re: #18 Belafon

Fourth of July by X
Best Friend’s Girl by The Cars
Thunder Road by Bruce Springsteen
Sultans of Swing, Tunnel of Love & Telegraph Road by Dire Straits
More than a Feeling by Boston

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steve_davis  Aug 18, 2021 • 4:04:09am

re: #1 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This youtuber in Iceland often goes to places around the Fagradalsfjall volcano that others do not, so he gets shots that are not common.

Notice the guy standing on the lava (even as hot lava is outgassing not far from him?) Apparently an American.

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Note also that the videographer, in the title, translates what “gelding” means in Geldingadalir. (Note that “dal” means valley.)

interesting. and of course dale is the english version of that word. and we have the word gelding as well.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 18, 2021 • 4:04:44am

As I’ve noted before, lots of underwater cameras live streaming on Youtube. One of my favorites is an Aqualink camera located at Keahole Point, HI, because it is situated in a coral reef and the audio picks up the coral eaters crunching the coral.

Yesterday though the little fish scattered out of the way when this approached:

Giant trevally

The Giant Trevally is a predator fish, and a large one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 4:06:29am

Trevally of the Dolls

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Nojay UK  Aug 18, 2021 • 4:07:13am

re: #36 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Only with the recent advent of aluminum production does Iceland have a cash generating product by which to grow.

Iceland is also a major exporter of tropical hardwoods.

Let me explain… Equatorial countries harvest hardwoods like teak and mahogany but the rough logs need to be kiln-dried to be usable and this takes time and heat. Iceland has a lot of heat so the raw hardwood is shipped there, stored in geothermally-heated kilns for over six months and then shipped off to the downstream customers in Europe and elsewhere. Since the timber stays in Iceland for a long enough period, it’s regarded as having been imported and re-exported, not just goods in transit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 4:12:26am

re: #62 Nojay UK

And tourism in Iceland is turning out to be more of a blight than a boon lately

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 18, 2021 • 4:14:15am

re: #62 Nojay UK

Iceland has a lot of heat

Lots and lots of heat:

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steve_davis  Aug 18, 2021 • 4:15:25am

re: #28 Belafon

Reading through this really sad thread of people not knowing how to do PEMDAS:

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this is standard on facebook. “If you can do this, you are a genius.” No, I just know how to do stuff in parentheses before exponents, etc.

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steve_davis  Aug 18, 2021 • 4:20:58am

re: #37 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Also, with the plague Norway sort of collapsed, and so did the need to sail west.

So Iceland had its population (of Scandinavian vikings and whatever slaves they could bring over from Ireland, etc.)

Fortunately the Iceland human population was large enough to escape the biological trap that befell the mammoth populations that were isolated a few thousand years earlier in various parts of North America and Asia, where fitness became a problem due to inbreeding.

they wound up on that island off siberia where things degenerated to the point where the whole population was being supported by ponzi schemes and raffle tickets.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 18, 2021 • 4:22:05am

Quiet music for the morning:

Debussy: Clair de lune, La plus que lente & Beau soir - Dana Zemtsov & Anna Fedorova - Live HD

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 18, 2021 • 4:28:34am

re: #67 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Noticed the matching flower arrangements on stage. They are huge.

If you went to buy something like that the sticker shock will be noticeable.

Sure, it’s in the Netherlands, center of the flower trade in Europe, so the ample supply means such items are probably constantly available.

I remember going to a dance event at a hotel by LAX many years ago, and they had huge arrangements in the hallways. I figure each one was probably $300 or $400. And they are only good for a couple of days, so figure out what it costs per month.

Anyway, finding such arrangements on stages here in the US is rare outside of special events. Most music institutions are just too penurious to buy those things.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 4:46:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 4:54:04am

re: #69 No Malarkey!

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They will slip some 5G trackers in his casket just to be sure…

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 5:25:56am
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Dave In Austin  Aug 18, 2021 • 5:39:41am

With permission of course. HIPPA and all.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 18, 2021 • 5:43:40am

re: #72 Dave In Austin

With permission of course. HIPPA and all.

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I can already hear the cries of DEEP FAKES!! or HOLLYWOOD SPECIAL EFFECTS!

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 5:43:41am

Feds asking for prison time today in one of the misdemeanor insurrection cases.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 18, 2021 • 5:47:03am

re: #74 No Malarkey!

Feds asking for prison time today in one of the misdemeanor insurrection cases.

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“Unlawful picketing” my ass. If the SOB entered the capitol building then the first (among many) charges should be breaking and entering, then add on from there. If my friend broke a window to enter a house and I followed him through, I would be held for breaking and entering even if I didn’t actually break the window for entrance. Just fuck our “justice” system sometimes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 5:47:34am

re: #74 No Malarkey!

Feds asking for prison time today in one of the misdemeanor insurrection cases.

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If they were merely present, I can see misdemeanor “illegal picketing” or “illegal entry” but if they did any sort of damage or injury then they need to face criminal charges.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 18, 2021 • 5:48:42am

re: #75 Eventual Carrion

“Unlawful picketing” my ass. If the SOB entered the capitol building then the first (among many) charges should be breaking and entering, then add on from there. If my friend broke a window to enter a house and I followed him through, I would be held for breaking and entering even if I didn’t actually break the window for entrance. Just fuck our “justice” system sometimes.

You know how it works. They probably pressed those higher charges initially, then offered him a plea deal where they would give him a reduced charge and sentence if he pled guilty. The feds want people to plead guilty; it’s the only way they can hope to avoid a massive backlog in the courtroom.

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Dangerman  Aug 18, 2021 • 5:53:52am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:01:41am

re: #69 No Malarkey!

Meanwhile, it sounds like Phil Valentine isn’t long for this world.

newsweek.com

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Dangerman  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:02:44am

re: #67 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Quiet music for the morning:

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This is perfect music

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:03:34am

re: #80 Dangerman

This is perfect music

agreed, even though afternoon here already

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:04:00am

re: #76 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If they were merely present, I can see misdemeanor “illegal picketing” or “illegal entry” but if they did any sort of damage or injury then they need to face criminal charges.

From what I read, this guy was filming others assaulting police, but didn’t participate otherwise while he was in the Capitol.

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darthstar  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:04:02am

re: #77 Dopamine Fish

You know how it works. They probably pressed those higher charges initially, then offered him a plea deal where they would give him a reduced charge and sentence if he pled guilty. The feds want people to plead guilty; it’s the only way they can hope to avoid a massive backlog in the courtroom.

If it takes another six or eight months to try everyone, so be it. Keep this in America’s conscience going into 22.

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darthstar  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:04:45am

re: #82 No Malarkey!

From what I read, this guy was filming others assaulting police, but didn’t participate otherwise while he was in the Capitol.

Cheering them on, then. Fuck him.

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Dangerman  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:05:48am

re: #82 No Malarkey!

From what I read, this guy was filming others assaulting police, but didn’t participate otherwise while he was in the Capitol.

Did he try and stop them? Of course not.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:05:54am

re: #82 No Malarkey!

From what I read, this guy was filming others assaulting police, but didn’t participate otherwise while he was in the Capitol.

So aiding and abetting, he certainly was not filming it to provide it as evidence…

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darthstar  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:08:38am
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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:14:12am

Holy shit Newsom is in trouble. fivethirtyeight.com has keep polling at only 48.8%. A Covid truther could soon be governor of California.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:15:40am

re: #88 No Malarkey!

Holy shit Newsom is in trouble. fivethirtyeight.com has keep polling at only 48.8%. A Covid truther could soon be governor of California.

This is a most unsettling development, and it shows that the GOP are working hard on recouping their losses in 2020

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:20:18am

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is a most unsettling development, and it shows that the GOP are working hard on recouping their losses in 2020

Apparently nearly half of Californians want their state to look like Florida. Newsom needs to run scare advertising about overrun hospitals and mounting deaths. Meanwhile according to coronavirus.jhu.edu, the US death rate is back over 1,000 a day.

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jeffreyw  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:21:31am

A boy has dreams

Good morning!

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lawhawk  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:22:01am

re: #49 Dread Pirate Ron

Are we sure that’s a Caldor fire? Those stores never had that kind of growth, which is why they’re now out of business. /

Seriously though, the fire season is out of control, and it’s only getting worse. Water authorities have already issued warnings of water cuts on the Colorado River next year, and water levels keep dropping along the basin. Lake Mead and Powell are both in serious trouble, as is the power generating stations up and down the river.

98% of the west is in drought conditions. 64% is in the two worst categories of drought. Those are long term conditions that can’t be turned around with a single storm, or even a single season of normal rain.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:22:33am

re: #90 No Malarkey!

and the GOP is good at beating out the Protest Vote with promises of Green Grass and High Tides Forever

(Just an excuse to post that song)

Green Grass and High Tides

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:24:43am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and the GOP is good at beating out the Protest Vote with promises of Green Grass and High Tides Forever

(Just an excuse to post that song)

[Embedded content]

Never play that song at a jam night, it goes on forever for everyone to get their licks in :-)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:27:17am

re: #94 Eventual Carrion

another band (like Molly Hatchett) that stepped up to fill the hole left in Country Rock Jam Band music left by the demise of Lynrd Skynrd and the Allman Brothers…

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:33:07am
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JOE 🥓  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:33:12am

re: #18 Belafon

[Embedded content]

All I Know by Art Garfunkel.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:37:37am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:38:38am

re: #88 No Malarkey!

Holy shit Newsom is in trouble. fivethirtyeight.com has keep polling at only 48.8%. A Covid truther could soon be governor of California.

I really think the GOP is gonna pull it off.

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Belafon  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:39:25am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and one 1 ml³ of water weighs 1g, one liter of water weighs 1 kg.

Fucking brilliant.

“We had 3/8 inches of rain last night”…What does that mean to us in the US?

“We had 9.5 liters/m² of rain last night” tells Canadians (and most of the rest of the world) not only how deep it would be if collected but also how much volume we got, because one liter of rain spread of 1m² = 1 mm.

That’s a really poor comparison, because if I’m standing in 3/8 of an inch of water, I don’t really care about the volume. “We got one million liters of water.”

“Wow, how deep is that?”

“Well, that’s 1000 cubic meters. Since we live in a 1km square area, that’s 1000/1000000 meters high, or 1 millimeter.”

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:43:12am

re: #88 No Malarkey!

Holy shit Newsom is in trouble. fivethirtyeight.com has keep polling at only 48.8%. A Covid truther could soon be governor of California.

The part you left out of your headline is that Remove is still polling lower than that. While it is a lot closer than it should be, and there is a very VERY real possibility that the GOP might get away with their shenanigans, it is by no means guaranteed. FILL OUT YOUR BALLOTS AND GET THEM IN NOW.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:46:39am

re: #88 No Malarkey!

Holy shit Newsom is in trouble. fivethirtyeight.com has keep polling at only 48.8%. A Covid truther could soon be governor of California.

And how did that latest recall debate go?

Private Eye Interrupts California Debate to Serve GOP Recall Candidate With $100K Court Order

California Republican John Cox arrived at a debate on Tuesday night hoping to shore up his place as one of the top GOP contenders fighting it out for the chance to unseat Gov. Gavin Newsom. Instead, he left with a court order demanding the settlement of an unpaid bill for $100,000. Video of the incident shows a private investigator shouting over the Republican while he was introducing himself, saying “John Cox, you’ve been served.” The Sacramento Bee reports that Cox owes the hefty bill to a Virginia-based consulting firm that worked on his failed 2018 campaign for California governor. The agent, Aman Choudhry, told the newspaper that Cox had been “ducking and dodging courts,” so he decided to show up at the debate.

thedailybeast.com

Meanwhile the Pulpit Pimp Palace down the street from me is all in for Elder with idiots passing out Elder crap at bus stops. These Xtians are just like the $¢ientologist$ who get in my face when I try to get into my Dr’s office at Kaiser Hollywood.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:46:43am

re: #100 Belafon

The point is that there is a direct and easily calculated relationship between mass, weight and volume.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:48:20am

Anti-vaxxers go to a church camp and orphan their children.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:49:58am

re: #102 JOE 🥓

According to that 538 poll, Larry Elder is currently the easy front-runner to replace Newsom in the event of a successful recall, polling at 19.3%. He’s quite comfortably ahead of any of the other would-be candidates.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:50:45am

re: #104 No Malarkey!

Anti-vaxxers go to a church camp and orphan their children.

And this is exactly what makes me sad. If this were pure Darwinism without any innocent victims, I would just say good riddance…

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JOE 🥓  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:51:53am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The point is that there is a direct and easily calculated relationship between mass, weight and volume.

Memories of when Carter tried to transition us to the Metric system and the media went insane attacking speed limit signs that showed 55MPH/88KPH and oh no they saw 70s cars that had speedometers in both FPS and Metric! The media melted down…

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Ming5000  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:52:05am

Amazing video and the replies are gold. We see lots of cat videos, but dogs are secretly living the high life.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:56:22am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:56:27am

re: #107 JOE 🥓

Memories of when Carter tried to transition us to the Metric system and the media went insane attacking speed limit signs that showed 55MPH/88KPH and oh no they saw 70s cars that had speedometers in both FPS and Metric! The media melted down…

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:58:27am

California’s future under Governor Larry Elder.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:58:32am

re: #109 No Malarkey!

“Just like Afghanistan” is a lot more effective than “Just like the Holocaust” because it adds the implied dig at Biden for “cutting and running”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 6:59:20am

re: #111 No Malarkey!

California’s future under Governor Larry Elder.

I am assuming that the vax rate is slightly higher in CA but the trend will be identical…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:02:02am

re: #99 Dr Lizardo

I really think the GOP is gonna pull it off.

If only because of Left wingers who vote “Yes” on recalling Newsom because he’s not pure enough for them.

Did they not learn this lesson when Donald Trump got elected?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:03:27am

re: #114 Eclectic Cyborg

If only because of Left wingers who vote “Yes” on recalling Newsom because he’s not pure enough for them.

Did they not learn this lesson when Donald Trump got elected?

This is a new electoral goat rodeo that they are pulling on us. And if Newsom survives, we will hear all about how the election was “stolen”.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:05:35am

re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am assuming that the vax rate is slightly higher in CA but the trend will be identical…

56% fully vaxxed in California compared to 52% in Florida. Elder will prohibit mask and vaccination mandates, encouraging virus spread to the millions of unvaccinated Californians.

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Belafon  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:07:23am

re: #114 Eclectic Cyborg

If only because of Left wingers who vote “Yes” on recalling Newsom because he’s not pure enough for them.

Did they not learn this lesson when Donald Trump got elected?

I think you really need to blame the people who don’t think it’s important enough to care who is governor given that the keep vs replace doesn’t add to 100.

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Belafon  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:08:12am
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Belafon  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:09:12am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:10:27am

re: #108 Ming5000

What really happens when you leave your dog alone for a minute….

MP4 Video

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:15:55am

re: #114 Eclectic Cyborg

If only because of Left wingers who vote “Yes” on recalling Newsom because he’s not pure enough for them.

Did they not learn this lesson when Donald Trump got elected?

That might be part of it, but I’m also wondering about low voter turnout (as it were, because this is mail-in). Brexit narrowly won because those opposed to Brexit said to themselves, “It’ll never happen, so no need to go vote”. I can see a similar situation, where people don’t bother to return their ballots, thinking that a recall would never prevail.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:25:54am

re: #121 Dr Lizardo

That might be part of it, but I’m also wondering about low voter turnout (as it were, because this is mail-in). Brexit narrowly won because those opposed to Brexit said to themselves, “It’ll never happen, so no need to go vote”. I can see a similar situation, where people don’t bother to return their ballots, thinking that a recall would never prevail.

If they don’t send their ballots in, they will wake up one morning soon, and fringe rightwing extremists will have taken over their state. Anyone know when the new Governor gets sworn in?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:29:01am

re: #122 No Malarkey!

If they don’t send their ballots in, they will wake up one morning soon, and fringe rightwing extremists will have taken over their state. Anyone know when the new Governor gets sworn in?

Yep, just like the anti-Brexit folks woke up the following morning, saw the headlines on the BBC and the broadsheets, and were no doubt saying, “WAIT, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!!” over their toast and jam (or whatever the Brits eat for breakfast, Marmite maybe 🤢).

IIRC, if Newsom is indeed recalled, the new governor is sworn in the next day.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:30:28am
@SamFacto
I must know. What’s a song you consider an absolute masterpiece, start to finish, no second of wasted time, every note just in a perfect spot, every word true?

‘The First Time’, for the poetry of Ewan MacColl and first recorded by Bonnie Dobson. (MacColl singing it, with the wife he wrote it for, isn’t as good.)

It was covered many times, but Dobson’s version isn’t online. Roberta Flack, like many others, overloaded its simplicity. PPM did a good version, but screwed with the lyrics.

Peter, Paul & Mary - The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face

The first time ever I saw your face
I thought the sun rose in your eyes -
And the moon and stars were the gift you gave
To the dark and empty skies, my love,
To the dark and empty skies.

The first time ever I kissed your mouth,
I felt the earth move in my hand -
Like the trembling heart of a captive bird
That was there at my command, my love,
That was there at my command.

The first time ever I lay with you
And felt your heart beat over mine -
I thought our joy would fill the earth
And last till the end of time, my love,
And last till the end of time.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:32:16am

re: #123 Dr Lizardo

Yep, just like the anti-Brexit folks woke up the following morning, saw the headlines on the BBC and the broadsheets, and were no doubt saying, “WAIT, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!!” over their toast and jam (or whatever the Brits eat for breakfast, Marmite maybe 🤢).

IIRC, if Newsom is indeed recalled, the new governor is sworn in the next day.

It may take awhile to count the ballots though. If it’s close like the polls suggest, it might take weeks.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:34:02am

This is why we were never going to successfully nation build in Afghanistan. It’s not a nation.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:34:05am

re: #125 No Malarkey!

It may take awhile to count the ballots though. If it’s close like the polls suggest, it might take weeks.

Yeah, I guess it would be when the California Secretary of State confirms the final results - presumably, once that’s finalized, then a new governor would take over if the previous governor was recalled.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:35:43am

At least there is plenty of vaccine available in the US.

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Belafon  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:40:24am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:40:46am

re: #126 No Malarkey!

This is why we were never going to successfully nation build in Afghanistan. It’s not a nation.

How much did Ash Ghani have to pay out in bribes to be allowed to leave intact?

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Belafon  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:41:33am

re: #128 No Malarkey!

At least there is plenty of vaccine available in the US.

[Embedded content]

I might suggest my son, who got the one J&J shot, get a booster, and my parents, but I would prefer if mine was sent to some country that needs a lot of vaccines because we’re not going to get it under control if we don’t get the world vaccinated.

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Belafon  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:42:35am

re: #126 No Malarkey!

This is why we were never going to successfully nation build in Afghanistan. It’s not a nation.

[Embedded content]

If I were our president, as a sign of good will toward the new government, I would hand him - or at least the money - to the Afghans.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:43:46am

re: #132 Belafon

If I were our president, as a sign of good will toward the new government, I would hand him - or at least the money - to the Afghans.

Where did he flee to? I can well imagine someplace with very lax financial regulations…

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Decatur Deb  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:44:04am

re: #131 Belafon

I might suggest my son, who got the one J&J shot, get a booster, and my parents, but I would prefer if mine was sent to some country that needs a lot of vaccines because we’re not going to get it under control if we don’t get the world vaccinated.

Wife and I will get the booster ASAP. Alabama will flush its surplus, not send it to Nigeria.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:44:07am

re: #131 Belafon

I might suggest my son, who got the one J&J shot, get a booster, and my parents, but I would prefer if mine was sent to some country that needs a lot of vaccines because we’re not going to get it under control if we don’t get the world vaccinated.

Since we have no control over that, I’ll take mine, which might just get wasted otherwise. But we do need to vaccinate the world.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:45:35am

re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Where did he flee to? I can well imagine someplace with very lax financial regulations…

My first guess would be Saudi Arabia, the retirement home of corrupt dictators.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:45:50am

re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Where did he flee to? I can well imagine someplace with very lax financial regulations…

Apparently, he’s now in Dubai. Hey, with $169 million, I’d imagine he could get himself some nice digs at the Burj Khalifa. Maybe even a Ferrari to scuttle around town. Hookers and blow. That sort of thing.

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Belafon  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:46:21am
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Nojay UK  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:54:09am

re: #135 No Malarkey!

Since we have no control over that, I’ll take mine, which might just get wasted otherwise. But we do need to vaccinate the world.

Pardon me while I sigh.

OK, now that’s over, vaccinating the world isn’t going to be achieved by GoFundMes and church collection plates and well-meaning web pages with donation links. It’s going to be achieved by massively building out vaccine production facilities all around the world, ramping up chemical and bio precursor supply lines and commissioning new ‘fill and finish’ plants to produce twenty billion doses of vaccine a year and fuck ‘waste’. By the time we’ve beaten this thing into a corner planet-wide our big problem should be “where are we gonna store all these excess vaccines?”

If we’re not doing that then we’re not taking this epidemic seriously (‘we’ meaning everyone on this ball of rock).

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plansbandc  Aug 18, 2021 • 7:55:48am

re: #67 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

My favorite composer.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:02:34am

re: #114 Eclectic Cyborg

If only because of Left wingers who vote “Yes” on recalling Newsom because he’s not pure enough for them.

Did they not learn this lesson when Donald Trump got elected?

No because lots of DSAers in Los Angeles still supported the jackass on the Green Party ticket because St. Bernie “was cheated out of the nomination”…

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lawhawk  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:04:36am

re: #138 Belafon

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JOE 🥓  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:04:43am

Why hasn’t this clown been locked up?

Infamous Capitol rioter Jenna Ryan cries ‘persecution’ after ‘hit piece’ replaces ‘Jesus’ with ‘Trump’ in her new song

dallasobserver.com

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:07:41am

re: #88 No Malarkey!

Holy shit Newsom is in trouble. fivethirtyeight.com has keep polling at only 48.8%. A Covid truther could soon be governor of California.

And how they get to that from looking at about nine polls, in only one of which has “remove” win out over “keep” (the one working with the smallest sample), I cannot say, not knowing anything about their methodology. But I’m not sure what to make of those figures.

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darthstar  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:08:47am

re: #144 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

And how they get to that from looking at about nine polls, in only one of which has “remove” win out over “keep” (the one working with the smallest sample), I cannot say, not knowing anything about their methodology. But I’m not sure what to make of those figures.

Anxiety drives clicks.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:11:52am

re: #101 Dopamine Fish

The part you left out of your headline is that Remove is still polling lower than that. While it is a lot closer than it should be, and there is a very VERY real possibility that the GOP might get away with their shenanigans, it is by no means guaranteed. FILL OUT YOUR BALLOTS AND GET THEM IN NOW.

I’m waiting until the end of August.

Because.

That’s the deadline for write-in candidates to register (and we might get a viable Democrat to do so).

Or something else could happen, like the outcome of that lawsuit to invalidate the election. There will be plenty of time.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:12:24am

re: #138 Belafon

“Well. He shouldn’t have gotten shot. Duh!”

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:13:34am

Totally random observation here, but I just realized that Michael Rooker, who played Yondu in both Guardians of the Galaxy films, also played the titular character in Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer (and he was disturbingly good, BTW).

FFS, how did I miss that? 🙁

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:13:44am

re: #137 Dr Lizardo

Apparently, he’s now in Dubai. Hey, with $169 million, I’d imagine he could get himself some nice digs at the Burj Khalifa. Maybe even a Ferrari to scuttle around town. Hookers and blow. That sort of thing.

They can smuggle him in and out in a poop truck…

Youtube Video

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:16:13am

re: #149 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They can smuggle him in and out in a poop truck…

LOL yeah, apparently when Dubai was transforming itself into an architectural amusement park, they somehow forgot about the sewer infrastructure.

You know, the little things.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:18:31am

re: #135 No Malarkey!

Since we have no control over that, I’ll take mine, which might just get wasted otherwise. But we do need to vaccinate the world.

28.5% vaccinated (at least one dose) in my county.

I’ll take the booster since I’m apparently surrounded by morons who also refuse to mask

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:18:43am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

LOL yeah, apparently when Dubai was transforming itself into an architectural amusement park, they somehow forgot about the sewer infrastructure.

You know, the little things.

Because it was all about making a shock-and-aweing impression…

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:21:08am

re: #116 No Malarkey!

56% fully vaxxed in California compared to 52% in Florida. Elder will prohibit mask and vaccination mandates, encouraging virus spread to the millions of unvaccinated Californians.

As some of us keep reminding you, CA democrats have a veto-proof, impeach-and-remove-sufficient majority in the legislature.

Also, judging by all of your past records, the gloom and doom here should give us all reason to believe that Newsom will pull this off.

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sagehen  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:24:20am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

Totally random observation here, but I just realized that Michael Rooker, who played Yondu in both Guardians of the Galaxy films, also played the titular character in Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer (and he was disturbingly good, BTW).

FFS, how did I miss that? 🙁

And he was Merle in Walking Dead (Daryl’s brother).

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:25:16am

re: #144 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

And how they get to that from looking at about nine polls, in only one of which has “remove” win out over “keep” (the one working with the smallest sample), I cannot say, not knowing anything about their methodology. But I’m not sure what to make of those figures.

He has a complex system to weigh polls. SurveyUSA he has graded at A, and after he adjusted it, it is remove +9. Polling, however, is an inexact science.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:26:27am

re: #153 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

As some of us keep reminding you, CA democrats have a veto-proof, impeach-and-remove-sufficient majority in the legislature.

Also, judging by all of your past records, the gloom and doom here should give us all reason to believe that Newsom will pull this off.

Yeah, even if the GOP pulled off a recall of Newsom and got Elder in the Governor’s Mansion (and I think they could pull it off), all things considered, it would make little difference. Larry would be just sitting at his desk, essentially powerless to do much of anything, marking time until November 2022 when he’d almost certainly be voted out (if he even bothered to run for election, or hadn’t been impeached and removed before then).

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:26:56am

re: #145 darthstar

Anxiety drives clicks.

I hope it drives people to mail in their ballots.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:27:13am

re: #153 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

As some of us keep reminding you, CA democrats have a veto-proof, impeach-and-remove-sufficient majority in the legislature.

Also, judging by all of your past records, the gloom and doom here should give us all reason to believe that Newsom will pull this off.

I sure hope so; making Elder governor would be the height of insanity.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:28:28am

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

28.5% vaccinated (at least one dose) in my county.

I’ll take the booster since I’m apparently surrounded by morons who also refuse to mask

28.5%?!?!? HOLY SHIT. I seriously, seriously hate the modern GOP.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:29:07am

re: #154 sagehen

And he was Merle in Walking Dead (Daryl’s brother).

And he’s in The Suicide Squad.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:29:50am

Boosters start September 20.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:29:50am

re: #156 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, even if the GOP pulled off a recall of Newsom and got Elder in the Governor’s Mansion (and I think they could pull it off), all things considered, it would make little difference. Larry would be just sitting at his desk, essentially powerless to do much of anything, marking time until November 2022 when he’d almost certainly be voted out (if he even bothered to run for election, or hadn’t been impeached and removed before then).

Oh and if Larry gets elected he’s gonna get impeached and removed. Stepping in to replace him with be the female Lt. Gov Eleni Kounalakis who will reverse anything Lunatic Larry tried.

And Larry will continue to be the typical Right Wing grifter whining about being persecuted by Godless Atheist liberals while he fleeces his marks.

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KingKenrod  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:31:05am

Question: if Newsom resigns before the election, is the election moot?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:31:13am

re: #159 Dopamine Fish

28.5%?!?!? HOLY SHIT. I seriously, seriously hate the modern GOP.

Just for perspective, it might be useful to compare county-level vaccination rates at this stage of the pandemic with the same counties’ flu-shot rates in 2018.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:31:35am

re: #155 No Malarkey!

He has a complex system to weigh polls. SurveyUSA he has graded at A, and after he adjusted it, it is remove +9. Polling, however, is an inexact science.

And another poll with keep +14 is rated “B.” As I said, I don’t understand his methodology.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:31:42am

re: #163 KingKenrod

Question: if Newsom resigns before the election, is the election moot?

This was raised in 2003 and IIRC the recall would be mooted if Davis had resigned.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:33:04am

re: #162 JOE 🥓

Oh and if Larry gets elected he’s gonna get impeached and removed. Stepping in to replace him with be the female Lt. Gov Eleni Kounalakis who will reverse anything Lunatic Larry tried.

And Larry will continue to be the typical Right Wing grifter whining about being persecuted by Godless Atheist liberals while he fleeces his marks.

But while he is governor, until they can remove him, which I assume might take a few weeks, he will be issuing executive orders to promote the spread of coronavirus as much as he can.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:33:36am

re: #163 KingKenrod

Question: if Newsom resigns before the election, is the election moot?

I’m afraid the question is moot. I can’t see Newsom resigning for anything.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:34:53am

re: #165 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

And another poll with keep +14 is rated “B.” As I said, I don’t understand his methodology.

He has an internal rating system for different pollsters, based on their methodology, historical accuracy, any known bias, etc. He fudges all of these subjective factors into two things: An “adjustment” that he applies directly to the poll results themselves, indicating where he thinks reality lies compared to the poll’s actual results, and a weight, indicating how much those adjusted results impact his aggregate data. A historically unreliable pollster will have little impact on his aggregate numbers, and is likely to include a large “fudge factor” in one direction or another to compensate for known bias.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:36:32am

re: #38 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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Teukka  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:37:13am

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

28.5% vaccinated (at least one dose) in my county.

I’ll take the booster since I’m apparently surrounded by morons who also refuse to mask

As of 2021-08-18 at 2 p.m. local, Sweden is at 6,589,191/ 80.5% 1-jabbers, 5,003,350 / 61.1% 2-jabbers…

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KingKenrod  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:37:28am

re: #168 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

I’m afraid the question is moot. I can’t see Newsom resigning for anything.

I guess not

Sometimes ya gotta take one for the team.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:38:59am

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

28.5% vaccinated (at least one dose) in my county.

I’ll take the booster since I’m apparently surrounded by morons who also refuse to mask

Same. Twin Falls County has the 3rd highest covid rate in Idaho and is only 34.64% vaccinated. And like you, I am surrounded by covidiots who refuse to either get vaccinated or mask up (probably both).

Edited to add. At least our GOP Governor is telling people to get vaccinated. BUT he is still refusing to issue a State wide mask mandate leaving it up to the Counties. *sigh*

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:39:35am

re: #173 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

Same. Twin Falls County has the 3rd highest covid rate in Idaho and is only 34.64% vaccinated. And like you, I am surrounded by covidiots who refuse to either get vaccinated or mask up (probably both).

My county is at 78.8% / 74.7%. I’ve even seen a few masks around, especially since one of the gas stations in town posted a sign saying “Masks requested for all customers” late last week.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:40:12am

re: #34 Targetpractice

And in another month, these assholes will excuse their opposition to resettling refugees here in the US by declaring “THEY SHOULD HAVE STAYED AND FOUGHT FOR THEIR COUNTRY!!!”

Didn’t Rand Paul already say that a month ago? msnbc.com

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William Lewis  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:42:30am

This seems an appropriate time to remember this history.

The last battle of the War in Vietnam…

The Last Battle of the Vietnam War: The Mayaguez incident

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danarchy  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:43:48am

re: #165 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

And another poll with keep +14 is rated “B.” As I said, I don’t understand his methodology.

The pollsters are rated on past performance. They take polls within 21 days of an election and see how predictive they were. Change Research was well outside the margin of error on an awful lot of their election night results.

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Sherlock Hound  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:44:21am

re: #149 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They can smuggle him in and out in a poop truck…

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*Bury* him in that poop truck! If I lived in the Burj, I’d say, “this one’s for you!” as I flush.

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sagehen  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:44:40am

re: #156 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, even if the GOP pulled off a recall of Newsom and got Elder in the Governor’s Mansion (and I think they could pull it off), all things considered, it would make little difference. Larry would be just sitting at his desk, essentially powerless to do much of anything, marking time until November 2022 when he’d almost certainly be voted out (if he even bothered to run for election, or hadn’t been impeached and removed before then).

Except maybe appointing a Senator if DiFi (88 years old) dies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:45:22am

re: #178 Sherlock Hound

*Bury* him in that poop truck! If I lived in the Burj, I’d say, “this one’s for you!” as I flush.

Dictators like that tend to be the ones who either cling to the side or remain floating…

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Belafon  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:45:27am

re: #129 Belafon

Its time we raised paramedic pay off of the minimum wage floor.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:45:45am

re: #169 Dopamine Fish

He has an internal rating system for different pollsters, based on their methodology, historical accuracy, any known bias, etc. He fudges all of these subjective factors into two things: An “adjustment” that he applies directly to the poll results themselves, indicating where he thinks reality lies compared to the poll’s actual results, and a weight, indicating how much those adjusted results impact his aggregate data. A historically unreliable pollster will have little impact on his aggregate numbers, and is likely to include a large “fudge factor” in one direction or another to compensate for known bias.

I’ve read his explanation too. It’s not enough to explain why any particular poll is weighted as it is.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:46:48am
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:47:39am

re: #170 Colère Tueur de Lapin

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sagehen  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:47:46am

re: #179 sagehen

Except maybe appointing a Senator if DiFi (88 years old) dies.

Also, does the governor have to sign off on redistricting?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:47:48am

Afghanistan President Ashraf Ghani in UAE, officials say

The UAE’s foreign ministry said the country had welcomed Mr Ghani and his family on humanitarian grounds.

$168 million helped put them in a very humanitarian mood, I am sure…

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:49:52am
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:50:07am

re: #185 sagehen

Also, does the governor have to sign off on redistricting?

Redistricting is out of the hands of the politicians in California.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:50:14am

re: #164 Decatur Deb

Just for perspective, it might be useful to compare county-level vaccination rates at this stage of the pandemic with the same counties’ flu-shot rates in 2018.

found this

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stpaulbear  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:50:27am

An anti-vaxxer tells Beau that he’s being unfair by not providing advice for them too.

Let’s talk about balance and advice for the unvaccinated….

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:51:29am

re: #190 stpaulbear

An anti-vaxxer tells Beau that he’s being unfair by not providing advice for them too.

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The periodic table t-shirt is a nice touch.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:53:16am

Also Good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:54:23am

re: #173 Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict

Same. Twin Falls County has the 3rd highest covid rate in Idaho and is only 34.64% vaccinated. And like you, I am surrounded by covidiots who refuse to either get vaccinated or mask up (probably both).

the only people wearing masks in my county are people who are vaccinated

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JOE 🥓  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:55:14am

One thing I’m noticing since yesterday. When I click on a tinder link posted another page opens on Safari and Twitter gives an error that says

Something went wrong. Try reloading.

It won’t load or access Twitter.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:55:20am

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

the only people wearing masks in my county are people who are vaccinated

and who don’t believe the election was stolen (near 100% overlap on that)

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Belafon  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:55:29am

re: #191 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

The periodic table t-shirt is a nice touch.

Trying to figure out the significance of the red ones.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:55:57am

re: #196 Belafon

Trying to figure out the significance of the red ones.

I likewise. Any thoughts?

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:55:57am

re: #190 stpaulbear

Since I am unfamiliar with the table (like, I know noble gases, hydrogen, helium and lithium), I was like “Wait, no way, the table can’t have elements that spell that out”.

So I checked.

It doesn’t.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:57:15am

8 month mark is December for me. It can’t get here soon enough.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:57:34am

re: #187 The Pie Overlord!

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What an image. And that gold of course was pretty close to pure. He probably apprenticed in about 1880 or 1890. When everything was handmade.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:58:37am

re: #199 GlutenFreeJesus

February for me. I will go to my local supermarket again.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:58:58am

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

found this

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So a lot of people were non-vax years before the Trumpisti made it an article of faith. That has to be included in any countermeasures approach.

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Aug 18, 2021 • 8:59:08am

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

the only people wearing masks in my county are people who are vaccinated

Pretty much.Though the last time I was at the auto parts store I noticed they have gone back to the masks required sign. Used to be one that said if you were vaccinated, no mask required. So there are some signs of intelligence in this F-ing town.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:01:12am

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I likewise. Any thoughts?

The red ones on the shirt are: Ruthenium, Rhodium, Palladium and Silver (Ru, Rh, Pd, Ag).

Some of these are known as “noble metals” but I’m not sure what they all have in common.

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stpaulbear  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:02:49am

re: #176 William Lewis

This seems an appropriate time to remember this history.

The last battle of the War in Vietnam…

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Last night, Lawrence O’Donnell laid in to Ben Sasse and everyone else that was saying that this exit was worse than Vietnam. He was MAD.

Edit: I was very anti-war but I did go in to get my draft card in 1972. I wasn’t sure what I was going to do if push came to shove, but I had a lottery number that I knew would never come up.

Lawrence: ‘Everything About Vietnam Was Much Worse Than What Has Happened In Afghanistan’

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:03:04am

re: #202 Decatur Deb

So a lot of people were non-vax years before the Trumpisit made it an article of faith. That has to be included in any countermeasures approach.

and remember, anti-vax comes not only from those who distrust Modern Science and Big Government, it has a lot of adherents among those who mistrust Big Pharma and Western Medicine.

My Nephew posted a study on FB from the Mellon institute that indicated that PhD’s are the most vaccine-hesitant group.

Of course, not all PhDs are in science, especially not in epidemiology, virology or microbiology.

Calling Drs. Ben Carson and Rand Paul!!!

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:04:42am

re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg

On his shirt they’re S, Ar, Ca, Sm…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:04:55am

re: #199 GlutenFreeJesus

8 month mark is December for me. It can’t get here soon enough.

me, too

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Michele: Recovering Social Media Addict  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:06:26am

Latest press release from the CDC on booster shots. Mine (J&J) is still an unknown at this time.

Joint Statement from HHS Public Health and Medical Experts on COVID-19 Booster Shots.

Media Statement
For Immediate Release: Wednesday, August 18, 2021

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:06:29am

re: #207 Sufficient unto the day…

On his shirt they’re S, Ar, Ca, Sm…

Ah, you’re right. Good catch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:07:50am

re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg

The red ones on the shirt are: Ruthenium, Rhodium, Palladium and Silver (Ru, Rh, Pd, Ag).

Some of these are known as “noble metals” but I’m not sure what they all have in common.

they are all platinum group metals as well.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:07:51am

re: #194 JOE 🥓

One thing I’m noticing since yesterday. When I click on a tinder link posted another page opens on Safari and Twitter gives an error that says

Something went wrong. Try reloading.

It won’t load or access Twitter.

I see that fairly often. You might have to reload more than once, but you should end by seeing the page you want. In extreme cases, copy and paste the link.

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Dangerman  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:10:56am

re: #163 KingKenrod

Question: if Newsom resigns before the election, is the election moot?

from electoral-vote.com 210814

Q:… Specifically, does the recall target the person or the position? To put it another way, assume tomorrow Gavin Newsom…resigned, then as I understand it, Lt. Gov. Eleni Kounalakis takes over as governor. Does the recall election go ahead, with Kounalakis being the one to face recall, or does it die with Newsom’s governorship? J.H., Southend-on-Sea, UK

A: This was not an easy question to answer; we consulted multiple people who write a blog specifically about election law, and they were unable to help. So, we booked a room at a Holiday Inn Express and then, the next morning, rolled up our sleeves and dug into the California codes (which are immense).

There are two passages of the section on recalls that are relevant here. First, the code describes a recall election as an “election to determine whether to recall an officer and, if appropriate, to elect a successor.” This makes clear that the target is the officer, and not the office. It also strongly suggests that if Newsom were to resign, then Kounalakis would take over and would not be in danger of losing her job. Since the office would be occupied, it would no longer be “appropriate” to elect a successor.

…

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HypnoToad  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:11:17am

I just placed one more ‘NO’ recall ballot in city hall’s dropbox. Couldn’t bear to vote for any of the supposedly better republican alternatives. But there’s more! Most of my conservative relatives moved en masse to Kentucky last month to escape the liberal hellhole of California; so there’s four less votes for recall.

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stpaulbear  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:14:54am

re: #214 HypnoToad

I just placed one more ‘NO’ recall ballot in city hall’s dropbox. Couldn’t bear to vote for any of the supposedly better republican alternatives. But there’s more! Most of my conservative relatives moved en masse to Kentucky last month to escape the liberal hellhole of California; so there’s four less votes for recall.

Did they move to KY so they could have senators that worked for THEM?

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BeachDem  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:16:00am

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

the only people wearing masks in my county are people who are vaccinated

Even my dentist has dropped his precautions. They had a mask requirement, took temps and made you fill out a form. Now, none of that, and they’ve put all the magazines, etc. back in the waiting room. Fortunately, I was the only one there (wearing my mask) on Monday. Sigh.

But, hey—at least peeps can carry their guns into hotels, whether the hotel wants them to or not!

SC law change means guns, weapons still allowed at hotels — even if hotel says ‘no’

In hotels, though, gun owners will have additional rights, and will likely be allowed to carry their weapons into the hotel and up to their rooms, regardless of what hotel owners say.

myrtlebeachonline.com

They’re saying it falls under “castle doctrine” bullshit. I say it just perpetuates Pedigru’s pronouncement from 1860 (you know the one—South Carolina, too small for a Republic, too large for an insane asylum.)

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:17:25am

It looks like I am going to keep an eye on the sky today. weather.gov

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Dangerman  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:18:19am

re: #190 stpaulbear

An anti-vaxxer tells Beau that he’s being unfair by not providing advice for them too.

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Video

he mentioned power of attorney and dnr/dni

i don’t think he mentioned health care proxy specifically
that could have been a good discussion as to why you might need one with a tube down your throat and/or induced coma

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:19:01am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:20:19am
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PhillyPretzel  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:20:31am

re: #219 The Pie Overlord!

They look delicious.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:22:53am

Mr. Beat My Meat On Zoom gets fried on CNN

08 18 2021 07 47 42

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:22:56am

re: #216 BeachDem

They’re saying it falls under “castle doctrine” bullshit. I say it just perpetuates Pedigru’s pronouncement from 1860 (you know the one—South Carolina, too small for a Republic, too large for an insane asylum.)

Every hotel needs a well-regulated militia…

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DesertDenizen  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:23:08am

re: #215 stpaulbear

I’m getting ready to flee Arizona for Pennsylvania, partly due to politics.

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HypnoToad  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:23:19am

re: #215 stpaulbear

More to escape all those liberal regulations and live among the like minded. (They love their pick-up trucks, bass boats, and guns) I haven’t seen them in years (I’m not wanted at family functions because my existence upsets them) even though we didn’t live that far apart. They didn’t tell me about their move, or leave any contact information.

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:23:29am

re: #220 Dread Pirate Ron

Which means we are about as cooked as one of Alouettes’ loaves. //

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Decatur Deb  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:24:02am

re: #216 BeachDem

Even my dentist has dropped his precautions. They had a mask requirement, took temps and made you fill out a form. Now, none of that, and they’ve put all the magazines, etc. back in the waiting room. Fortunately, I was the only one there (wearing my mask) on Monday. Sigh.

Even Baja Alabama isn’t that benighted. We are asked to check in by phone and wait in our cars.

I got one haircut during the post-vaccine “thaw”. Would love to have another, but don’t trust the cutters here.

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stpaulbear  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:26:13am

re: #225 HypnoToad

Did you have a personal going away party for them after you found out?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:27:33am

re: #224 DesertDenizen

I’m getting ready to flee Arizona for Pennsylvania, partly due to politics.

I miss Arizona, but things are getting crazy there.

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Belafon  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:28:47am

re: #227 Decatur Deb

The ones at the Great Clips I go to are all still wearing masks.

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DesertDenizen  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:28:49am

re: #229 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Especially in the rural areas. I’m skipping town before the insurrection.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:29:20am

re: #229 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I miss Arizona, but things are getting crazy there.

I miss Pennsylvania, but things are getting sane there.

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Belafon  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:29:41am

re: #224 DesertDenizen

I’m getting ready to flee Arizona for Pennsylvania, partly due to politics.

I think Republicans there are hoping Democrats will flee.

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darthstar  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:30:03am

re: #192 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Also Good morning!

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Nice nekkid ladies! Those are my favorites…I managed to get a few rhizomes this summer when some workers were churning up the green space between our house and the highway. Still haven’t come up yet but they’re all over the neighborhood.

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DesertDenizen  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:30:31am
Click to Reveal

PhillyPretzel, any recommendations for neighborhoods to avoid? My wife and are are 40ish and white. We would like the full urban experience again, and are looking to also open a business near our home.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:30:54am

re: #224 DesertDenizen

Depends on where in PA you are headed. Philly and Pittsburgh are cosmopolitan and are for the most part somewhat open-minded. North of the PA Turnpike big time DT country.

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sagehen  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:31:01am

re: #214 HypnoToad

I just placed one more ‘NO’ recall ballot in city hall’s dropbox. Couldn’t bear to vote for any of the supposedly better republican alternatives. But there’s more! Most of my conservative relatives moved en masse to Kentucky last month to escape the liberal hellhole of California; so there’s four less votes for recall.

Do their mail-in ballots get forwarded? Or do they have a house-sitter running out the last month’s rent who’ll grab them and do something? Or does the landlord or the mailman do whatever he wants with them?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:31:29am

re: #231 DesertDenizen

Especially in the rural areas. I’m skipping town before the insurrection.

yes, a lot of armed crazies up in the hills. Tucson and Flagstaff are still mostly civilized but even most of Phoenix is yahoo city

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DesertDenizen  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:31:48am

re: #233 Belafon

I feel a little guilty about that, but I’ve fought my fight here, including running for County office as a Dem in a very rural area. It’s time for the kids to pick up the slack.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:32:08am

re: #230 Belafon

The ones at the Great Clips I go to are all still wearing masks.

We have one, but they have some degree of local option on things like vaxx. Probably not polite to ask in a Pittsburgh accent. Might have wife call up her KY accent.

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DesertDenizen  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:32:15am

re: #236 PhillyPretzel

I should have been clearer. We’re headed to Philly.

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DesertDenizen  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:33:28am

re: #238 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And I’m down in Cochise County. I expect a serious Miracle Valley Shootout replay within the next few years. But with more powerful weapons and no clue which side the Sheriff will be on.

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HypnoToad  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:33:33am

re: #228 stpaulbear

No. Just sad they swallowed the republican flavor-aid. I’d tried in the past to get their kids interested in things like science, but was rebuffed since that would be socially bad for them, and prevent them from being real ‘muricans.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:33:33am

re: #222 JOE 🥓

Mr. Beat My Meat On Zoom gets fried on CNN

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Is Toobin about to do a Turley?

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darthstar  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:33:49am

Always knew that Jesus was sneaky…

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:34:47am

re: #237 sagehen

Do their mail-in ballots get forwarded? Or do they have a house-sitter running out the last month’s rent who’ll grab them and do something? Or does the landlord or the mailman do whatever he wants with them?

People on all sides of the political spectrum do that: they move and then for various reasons continue to vote in their old district. For years after she moved to the city, my niece voted from her parents’ home address because her vote mattered more there than in her city deep blue district.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:34:50am

re: #245 darthstar

Always knew that Jesus was sneaky…

He gave me the Antibody of Christ!

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:35:16am

re: #245 darthstar

Always knew that Jesus was sneaky…

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That bottom-left box is extremely unfortunate.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:36:08am

re: #235 DesertDenizen

Check my #136 and a lot of the suburbs like Jenkintown are nice areas. Philly has a few decent neighborhoods like Roxborough and Manayunk. Northeast Philly is okay we have a few problems but not too many.

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darthstar  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:36:56am

re: #248 Dopamine Fish

That bottom-left box is extremely unfortunate.

I visited the site on the right - they sell ‘Assholes Live Forever’ swag.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:37:29am

re: #250 darthstar

I visited the site on the right - they sell ‘Assholes Live Forever’ swag.

So it’s a troll?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:37:39am

re: #248 Dopamine Fish

That bottom-left box is extremely unfortunate.

I think that’s the joke. lol

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darthstar  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:38:07am

re: #251 Dopamine Fish

So it’s a troll?

Satire.

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Belafon  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:39:34am

re: #251 Dopamine Fish

So it’s a troll?

If you see someone flash that, you can laugh, because you’re either laughing at them or with them.

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HypnoToad  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:39:47am

re: #252 Eclectic Cyborg

There’s also a nice ‘antichrist’ insinuation in there.

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DesertDenizen  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:41:07am

re: #249 PhillyPretzel

Northeast seems appealing for business purposes. I’m looking at an underserved specialty retail sector, and the only stores in the city proper are 3.5 miles apart near University Center. I was planning on catching the bubble to the northeast and those driving out to the suburbs.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:41:13am

For a couple days I was directing very evil thoughts to Jack because of the change to Twitter that would have forced me to sign up to read all the tweets. Apparently they’ve decided that it was ultimately not a wise move and now these tweets are again available to those who are not members. Thank goodness!

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jaunte  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:42:20am

Alexa, show me a number about to quadruple.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:43:04am

re: #257 Hecuba’s daughter

For a couple days I was directing very evil thoughts to Jack because of the change to Twitter that would have forced me to sign up to read all the tweets. Apparently they’ve decided that it was ultimately not a wise move and now these tweets are again available to those who are not members. Thank goodness!

Still only works on incognito mode for me. I’ll keep checking. Maybe clear my cache/history.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:43:47am

re: #256 DesertDenizen

You might be able to do that depending on the business. There are some small shopping strips in the area. And as to politics Philly has 7 D’s to 1 R’s.

Also keep in mind City taxes. A location just slightly out of the city might work.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:43:49am

re: #258 jaunte

There are entire SCHOOLS that don’t have that many students.

Imagine your elementary school with 30 students on vents in every single classroom. That’s what Texas has right now…and cases are still surging.

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jaunte  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:45:12am

Meanwhile in Louisiana:

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BeachDem  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:45:54am

re: #227 Decatur Deb

I put off getting a haircut (and more to the point, color) until I really was resembling Gravel Gertie. Finally broke down. My hairdresser is really cautious—masks and temps—one to two people in the shop at a time; door locked. Of course, when I went last month, the woman who came in after me was a PROUD non-vaxxer, so my hairdresser kept moving me far away from her and we wore our masks (she made the moron wear hers as well, much to the moron’s chagrin.)

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DesertDenizen  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:46:39am

re: #260 PhillyPretzel

You might be able to do that depending on the business. There are some small shopping strips in the area. And as to politics Philly has 7 D’s to 1 R’s.

Also keep in mind City taxes. A location just slightly out of the city might work.

I’m looking at a Gaming Store. Being near universities is always good, but high traffic visibility is key. One buddy is trying to convince me to open in the King of Prussia mall, but I doubt I’ll be able to afford that.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:48:05am

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DesertDenizen  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:49:42am

re: #265 Ace Rothstein

Say the guy for whom violence is always the preferred answer in his daily life, especially with his wife and kids.

Edit, I mean the guy in the photo, not Ace.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:49:54am

re: #262 jaunte

Meanwhile in Louisiana:

1) Count the non-white faces in the second photo

2) Understand that Louisiana has a large black population

3) Realize there’s a fucked up racial angle to this whole situation.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:50:00am

re: #264 DesertDenizen

KOP before COVID always had a lot of traffic. I have not been there since and I think they have a “Game Stop” in the Plaza section of the mall. Willow Grove Park Mall in Montgomery Co on Rte 63 is a smaller mall appeals to the younger set. I am not sure if they have a gaming store.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:50:13am

re: #199 GlutenFreeJesus

8 month mark is December for me. It can’t get here soon enough.

November for me. Guess I can wait.

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DesertDenizen  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:51:17am

re: #268 PhillyPretzel

KOP before COVID always had a lot of traffic. I have not been there since and I think they have a “Game Stop” in the Plaza section of the mall. Willow Grove Park Mall in Montgomery Co on Rte 63 is a smaller mall appeals to the younger set. I am not sure if they have a gaming store.

I’m looking at tabletop, not video games. There’s two, one in South Philky and one in West Philly, and a few in the suburbs, but the local gaming groups I’ve joined all complain about the drives to the suburbs.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:51:31am

re: #263 BeachDem

I put off getting a haircut (and more to the point, color) until I really was resembling Gravel Gertie. Finally broke down. My hairdresser is really cautious—masks and temps—one to two people in the shop at a time; door locked. Of course, when I went last month, the woman who came in after me was a PROUD non-vaxxer, so my hairdresser kept moving me far away from her and we wore our masks (she made the moron wear hers as well, much to the moron’s chagrin.)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:52:35am

re: #264 DesertDenizen

I’m looking at a Gaming Store. Being near universities is always good, but high traffic visibility is key. One buddy is trying to convince me to open in the King of Prussia mall, but I doubt I’ll be able to afford that.

Are you potentially interested in some contact information on people who run gaming store(s) in the Philly area? They might have some useful information on the potential pitfalls local to the area.

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jaunte  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:53:00am

re: #271 Decatur Deb

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Decatur Deb  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:54:07am

re: #273 jaunte

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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:54:12am

The media and the critics can focus on the rear view mirror all they please. Yet real moral authority comes from actions looking forward. Utah is offering to help with Afghan refugees.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:55:21am

re: #270 DesertDenizen

KOP is part of the Simon Group and WGP is part of the Pennsylvania Real Estate Investment Trust. As I said I have not been to KOP since the COVID virus broke out. I was to WGP to get a replacement iPhone. When I went it was quiet most likely due to the virus.

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Jay C  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:57:37am

I got my second COVID vaccine shot (Pfizer) on Mar. 21, so it’s probably December for me as for the booster.
Which I am going to actively seek out and get ASAP.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 18, 2021 • 9:58:30am

I’m genuinely happy that Mackenzie Scott is giving away so much of Bezos’s money. She’s handing it out right and left to all manner of good causes, while Bezos uses it to joyride to the edge of space in his rocket-powered space dong while the world burns.

Homeboy Industries, believed to be the world’s largest reentry organization for formerly incarcerated and gang-involved men and women, is undergoing what board member the Rev. Allan Figueroa Deck, a Jesuit priest, sees as a ‘quantum leap’ in economic stability.

The Los Angeles-based nonprofit founded by the Rev. Gregory Boyle has received $15 million in long-term funding from the state of California and a $20 million gift from billionaire philanthropist MacKenzie Scott, the former spouse of Jeff Bezos.

This is the first time the organization has received this level of funding and monetary gifts, which, Deck said, will “really bring the organization to a new level of capacity” to serve people who have been in prison and involved in gangs.

“It will assure a level of stability in this really important work that it never has had before,” said Deck, who serves on Homeboy Industries’ board of directors.

americamagazine.org

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 18, 2021 • 10:01:36am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And this is exactly what makes me sad. If this were pure Darwinism without any innocent victims, I would just say good riddance…

They may be better off without parents who are toddlers with oppositional-defiant disorder if they’re adopted by people who can think. If they wind up in a theocratic foster home like one of my friends growing up, it’ll be just like home, so they break even.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 10:01:39am

re: #248 Dopamine Fish

That bottom-left box is extremely unfortunate.

I think it is meant semi-tongue-in-cheek from having checked the website

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Belafon  Aug 18, 2021 • 10:01:44am

re: #258 jaunte

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Alexa, show me a number about to quadruple.

A friend of my son, who we have known since elementary school and is a junior drum major, has tested positive and has missed a few band events (I doubt she started school today). She hasn’t gotten the shot. Her mom is the type that would be easily influenced by her church and Fox and so I’m pissed at her for not getting her daughters vaccinated.

Odds are nothing major will happen to the girl, but the world will definitely lose something major if she is affected in any way. She’s very smart and highly driven (the one quality I can’t teach my son), and will more than likely go on and do really big things if she gets through this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2021 • 10:03:41am

re: #279 Punish Domestic Terrorists

They may be better off without parents who are toddlers with oppositional-defiant disorder if they’re adopted by people who can think. If they wind up in a theocratic foster home like one of my friends growing up, it’ll be just like home, so they break even.

Kids should not have to lose their parents unless they are totally abusive. Just having asshole parents is not enough to warrant them becoming orphans

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 18, 2021 • 10:04:42am

My doctor’s office sent me an email to log onto the Athena website and make an appointment. The website says call the office for an appointment. I’d think they could have just said that in an email.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 18, 2021 • 10:05:13am

re: #270 DesertDenizen

inquirer.com

Feb, 2021 article.

I play (or was playing) cribbage at one of the Alternate Universe locations with a group that included the owner of the chain. And the owner of the Games Keep (in West Chester) is very supportive of other shops, including giving references to them if asked about games or genre stuff he doesn’t have in stock.

The game store for the KOP area was a branch of The Compleat Strategist. In a little tiny strip mall a mile or two from the mall. I haven’t been in the place in years though.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 18, 2021 • 10:06:40am

re: #282 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Kids should not have to lose their parents unless they are totally abusive. Just having asshole parents is not enough to warrant them becoming orphans

We did not shoot the parents for being assholes. Their parents killed themselves. You can’t stop assholes from killing themselves.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 18, 2021 • 10:07:05am

How any rational people can accept a 20-year occupation of a country ,and $2T lit on fire, and then that country crumbles in thirty minutes is to me the real outrage.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 18, 2021 • 10:08:52am

re: #284 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

That was an interesting article. I did not know that existed in Philly and the ‘burbs.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 18, 2021 • 10:15:31am

re: #287 PhillyPretzel

That was an interesting article. I did not know that existed in Philly and the ‘burbs.

I found it interesting as well since when I traveled I usually would visit local game stores. I did not know of a number of those on this list. Very familiar with a few of them as well since I play tabletop board games.

And the types vary widely within the categories. Some, like the comic book stores, generally have a small game section that is an adjunct to their main interest. Others specialize in the CCG (collectable card games) and mainly deal with Magic: The Gathering and games of that sort. Others tend towards miniatures or board games.

Shop size varies as well. Some are very hole-in-the-wall with just some merchandise* while others have varying amounts of player space up to separate rooms of tables just for gaming and supporting weekend tournaments.

* - Red Cap’s Corner in West Philly near UPenn was initially very hole-in-the-wall. They since moved to a different location and had a lot more inventory and also a good deal of player space as well the last time I was in there.

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Dangerman  Aug 18, 2021 • 10:34:53am

re: #275 Rightwingconspirator

The media and the critics can focus on the rear view mirror all they please. Yet real moral authority comes from actions looking forward. Utah is offering to help with Afghan refugees.

Utah can be a mensch when it wants to be

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DesertDenizen  Aug 18, 2021 • 10:36:52am

re: #272 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

That can’t hurt, thank you.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 18, 2021 • 11:00:24am

re: #220 Dread Pirate Ron

Looks like I won’t make it back to California before much of where I would like to visit becomes ashes. It’s sad as fuck.

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retired cynic  Aug 18, 2021 • 11:36:08am

re: #205 stpaulbear

Last night, Lawrence O’Donnell laid in to Ben Sasse and everyone else that was saying that this exit was worse than Vietnam. He was MAD.

Edit: I was very anti-war but I did go in to get my draft card in 1972. I wasn’t sure what I was going to do if push came to shove, but I had a lottery number that I knew would never come up.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 18, 2021 • 3:12:06pm

re: #292 retired cynic

Same same 32something.


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