Former Rogan Guest Chuck C. Johnson: “Joe Rogan Should Be Canceled, and Also He Might Be Gay”

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Believe me, dear friends, I hesitate to inflict this on you, but it’s such a piece of work I fear I have very little choice. You see, our pal Chuck C. Johnson, the guy who raised money for Nazis, denied the Holocaust on Reddit, doxxed Ebola victims and rape victims, and recently got a little notoriety boost at least partly from me because I tweeted a short clip of his 2015 appearance on the Joe Rogan podcast, has a new Substack babble/rant and it’s uh, something.

In Chuck’s latest grift, he’s a new man, a reformed, safer version of the Rage Furby we once knew, a regular guy who supports Joe Biden and gives money to progressives like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (which he actually did, by the way - he donated $250 in September 2021).

And this new man is embracing cancel culture with a vengeance. He wants Joe Rogan canceled. In fact, he wants Spotify canceled too. Oh, and also? Joe Rogan might be gay because he preens so much.

I don’t think I want to actually link to it, but you can find it at the Substack site if you really feel it’s necessary. Here’s a screenshot.

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372 comments
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Captain Magic  Feb 7, 2022 • 3:26:35pm

He has taken an anti-Wikileaks stance, so there’s that. And he’s also right that Spotify sucks for music artists.

Oh what to do, what to do….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2022 • 3:28:02pm

Good juju appreciated.

Just found out my 4 year-old niece tested positive. She had her birthday party on Saturday. Twelve people were there including my mom, my brother and my sister-in-law.

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stpaulbear  Feb 7, 2022 • 3:28:49pm

Wow. Haven’t seen a Furby post like this in ages. I hope they do the job and can go away soon.

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austin_blue  Feb 7, 2022 • 3:29:26pm

I wonder if he knows that Rogan would rip his head off and shit down his neck (which would be apropos for Chuck, given his, umm, predilections).

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austin_blue  Feb 7, 2022 • 3:30:25pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Good juju appreciated.

Just found out my 4 year-old niece tested positive. She had her birthday party on Saturday. Twelve people were there including my mom, my brother and my sister-in-law.

Well, shit. That really sucks. Best wishes for them all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 3:30:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 3:32:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 3:34:32pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2022 • 3:34:55pm

re: #5 austin_blue

Well, shit. That really sucks. Best wishes for them all.

Thankfully they are all vaccinated. They aren’t all boosted (boosters have been rolling out much more slowly in Canada).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 3:46:31pm

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — The Ohio Supreme Court on Monday rejected a second set of Ohio Statehouse district maps that retained strong Republican majorities as gerrymandered — and sent them back for a third try.

In yet another 4-3 ruling, the high court found the bipartisan Ohio Redistricting Commission’s second attempt at drawing the maps had again failed to pass constitutional muster. No Democrats supported either plan.

Moderate Republican Chief Justice Maureen O’Connor, who at 70 years old must leave the court Dec. 31 due to age limits, again provided a pivotal swing vote, joining the court’s three Democrats.

In another victory for voting rights and Democratic groups, the court gave the redistricting commission 10 days — until Feb. 17 — to pass a constitutional map. How that will go remains unclear. The Republican-dominated panel has failed twice already to reach bipartisan consensus despite the looming legal threats.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 3:47:36pm

JFC

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 3:56:01pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

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austin_blue  Feb 7, 2022 • 3:59:41pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

Well, damn, Kavanaugh, just get out there and yell “No Ni***rs Need Voting Rights!” and have done with it.

What a waste of a privileged White Boy.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:00:01pm

re: #103 stpaulbear

Beau posted a video today basically saying that everyone should just let the Ottawa protest run it’s course. I think he’s pretty off with this one.

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That’s not exactly what he’s saying. He’s saying that Canada appears to be following “The Manual” and by that he means literally a manual written by the US Army for dealing with protests and insurgencies.

The publication is FM3-24 Insurgencies and Countering Insurgencies.

Security clamp-downs on something like this usually ends in strengthening the case of the protesters.

So what should be done “according to the manual” is zero in on the ones actively being violent or destructive to property and stopping those supporting the protest (such as those supplying them with food, etc). As soon as the support system dries up, the protest dries up.

It appears that might be what Canada is going to do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:00:50pm
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austin_blue  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:03:44pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

What a maroon!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:04:14pm

I got it 3. How’d that happen?

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prairiefire  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:04:18pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Best wishes, speedy recovery.

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Acemarilllion  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:06:42pm

Real men would settle this in the octagon.

Chuck “Shitty Gritty” Johnson vs Joe “Just Asking” Rogan.

I would pay $5 PPV to see Chuck shit the 8-sided floor.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:08:31pm
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Captain Magic  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:10:38pm

Coincidence that both Thiele and Musk are into fascism given they fled South Africa after the fall of apartheid?

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:13:21pm

why do you hurt me this way

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EstebanTornado1963  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:17:30pm

Hate crap like this.

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austin_blue  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:19:25pm

re: #21 Captain Magic

Coincidence that both Thiele and Musk are into fascism given they fled South Africa after the fall of apartheid?

They aren’t into fascism at all. They are both very much into Vulture Capitalism, where you invest your money in countries where you are protected from Risk and protected from Loss by the Tax Code.

It means you have Political sway over the Proles.

It’s fantastic! It’s all Pheasants and Champagne for you and Hamburger Helper for everybody else!

God Bless America!

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William Lewis  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:21:34pm

re: #24 austin_blue

They aren’t into fascism at all. They are both very much into Vulture Capitalism, where you invest your money in countries where you are protected from Risk and protected from Loss by the Tax Code.

It means you have Political sway over the Proles.

It’s fantastic! It’s all Pheasants and Champagne for you and Hamburger Helper for everybody else!

God Bless America!

They don’t mind fascism though because it enables their vulture capitalism.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:22:26pm

re: #23 EstebanTornado1963

I thought this was the usual meme-bullshit or meme-wishful thinking that often comes out of the left, but yes it does actually say this:

18 U.S. Code § 2071 (b)
Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:25:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:27:42pm
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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:28:15pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

Macedonian Troll Farm Worker 59482362 has something to say!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:30:41pm
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darthstar  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:37:04pm

He kept us waiting for over 2000 years…he can wait a few minutes.

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austin_blue  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:37:08pm

re: #25 William Lewis

They don’t mind fascism though because it enables their vulture capitalism.

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I’ll disagree, to a point. Fascism works, and Germany, Italy, Spain, and Chile (in a sorta Western-based Argentine-hybrid form) was great for folks who brought a shit-pot of money to the table to pay for Capital Costs that set up industries that supported the Government, especially in war-related weapons industries. Krupps, BMW, Messerschmidt, Focke-Wulf, Mauser, &c, made shitpots of money building weapons for the Nazis. It was similar in Italy and Spain. Chile was just a Fascist dystopia when Pinochet was in charge (Ask the students. Oh, you can’t! They all got executed without trial!).

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Captain Magic  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:38:26pm
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austin_blue  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:39:09pm

re: #29 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

Macedonian Troll Farm Worker 59482362 has something to say!

Ain’t it the truth?

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wrenchwench  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:40:28pm

re: #31 darthstar

He kept us waiting for over 2000 years…he can wait a few minutes.

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We shoulda had the meter running….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:42:32pm
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darthstar  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:44:13pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jesus…

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:45:05pm

re: #37 darthstar

Jesus…

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If Pelosi had helped me declare martial law I’d still be president.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:45:38pm

re: #33 Captain Magic

I believe Pushaw pulled that tweet awhile ago. But that is always the problem with social media; when you post something, it can linger forever well after you deleted the original.

As my old boss always complained about Excel workbooks he sent to a user — that user could forward it to dozens of others and my boss lost control of his code. He could correct an error but the correction never made its way to the other users.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:48:32pm

re: #37 darthstar

Jesus…

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Yeah Responsible Adults, unlike the former toddler in chief and his gang of poo flingers.

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b_sharp  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:49:41pm

re: #17 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I got it 3. How’d that happen?

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Arrrrggh

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Dave In Austin  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:52:19pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:52:42pm

re: #38 darthstar

If Pelosi had helped me declare martial law I’d still be president.

That is one hell of an argument.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:53:04pm

re: #42 Dave In Austin

Bro De Toilette

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:53:09pm
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b_sharp  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:54:38pm

I win

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CleverToad  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:54:53pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Good juju appreciated.

Just found out my 4 year-old niece tested positive. She had her birthday party on Saturday. Twelve people were there including my mom, my brother and my sister-in-law.

{{EC & the Cyborg clan}} Juju sent, fingers crossed for the little one and all of you

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stpaulbear  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:55:00pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

I was getting anxious while doing this one because I’d had my first Wordle fail while doing puzzles on the offical archive site. The early Wordles are a LOT harder. I’ve gone to six or lost for all the old ones I’ve tried.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:56:22pm

re: #46 b_sharp

I feel like that some days.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:56:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:58:01pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, he took the Sharpie hurricane map…

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mmmirele  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:59:24pm

Heads’ up, Matt Walsh is trying a scam documentary on transgender persons! (Thread)

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 7, 2022 • 4:59:38pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

Of course. It proves he was correct (when he was not).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:05:03pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:05:41pm

re: #48 stpaulbear

I was getting anxious while doing this one because I’d had my first Wordle fail while doing puzzles on the offical archive site. The early Wordles are a LOT harder. I’ve gone to six or lost for all the old ones I’ve tried.

Wordle 233 5/6

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I agree that they do seem harder — and I will never forgive you for providing the link so that I am forced to waste my time solving these old puzzles. It’s all your fault that I have no will power when it comes to certain puzzles!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:07:00pm

wonder what furniture they stole on the way out.
Remember all those moving trucks parked outside the WH?

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:08:04pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tables, chairs and sofas. Who knows?

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(((Archangel1)))  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:09:25pm

So the Pizza Screw-up Saga I hinted at in a post from a few days ago involving the regional franchise of an international chain has actually managed to get infuriatingly worse. (Putting in private for length).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:10:18pm

re: #57 PhillyPretzel

Tables, chairs and sofas. Who knows?

GSA should have an inventory of every single item that should be there.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:11:39pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

They probably do. I am only guessing at this point. DT is the type who takes things because it appeals to him.

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stpaulbear  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:12:36pm

re: #55 Hecuba’s daughter

I agree that they do seem harder — and I will never forgive you for providing the link so that I am forced to waste my time solving this old puzzles. It’s all your fault that I have no will power when it comes to certain puzzles!

I’m limiting myself to 2 archive Wordles a day. For some reason they still feel like a special project and haven’t become potato chips.

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Captain Magic  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:15:48pm

An important Youtube on how Facebook inserts themselves as ‘fact checkers’:

Youtube Video

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(((Archangel1)))  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:19:56pm

Charles, in case you see this: post text went crazy on my end when embedding content in my last post (not the first time either). Took several tries to get it right - seems it goes nuts whenever there’s more than a single line of text above the embedded material.

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Captain Ron  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:21:40pm
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Dangerman  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:22:32pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]
boxes that were said to have been among those thrown together during Trump’s hasty departure from the WH

Bullshit

I already said
Bullshit

Tfg wasn’t running around in a panic packing boxes at the last minute.

Ffs

He gave orders to other people.
And not at the last minute.
Look at what was taken.
This was calculated.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:25:41pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:26:52pm

re: #61 stpaulbear

I’m limiting myself to 2 archive Wordles a day. For some reason they still feel like a special project and haven’t become potato chips.

What is this link you have?

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:27:37pm

re: #46 b_sharp

You’re doing it in Canadian…the words are in English.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:28:19pm

re: #37 darthstar

Report her tweets. They’re misleading election lies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:28:20pm

...

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:28:37pm

re: #64 Dread Pirate Ron

Put on some helmets! Do they not want to see their 90s?

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:31:48pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

They know they gonna get dragged so public replies are closed.

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Dangerman  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:32:17pm

Anything that my party does that comes across as being stupid is not going to help us.”

— Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT), quoted by CNN, on the impact of the RNC censures of Reps. Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger on the midterm elections.

Also

The Hill: Romney says he texted with niece McDaniel after RNC censure

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Captain Ron  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:33:21pm

re: #71 darthstar

Put on some helmets! Do they not want to see their 90s?

I see 90% helmeted around here.

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Captain Magic  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:33:36pm

Carville lays it out:

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(((Archangel1)))  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:34:20pm

re: #64 Dread Pirate Ron

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Awesome, now to just get rid of those pesky decades of fear and hate for bicycles over a childhood accident that mangled my foot. On the bright side, I’ve got 40+ years to get it right. ;)

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:34:21pm

I don’t check my followers very often but just noticed I’m only 9 followers away from the big 50K. A nice round number. Who doesn’t love round numbers? Do I get some kind of award, or maybe some cash? No?

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Dangerman  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:36:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:43:49pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:45:11pm

re: #62 Captain Magic

When he complains about the “English language” he comes off as just another grumpy curmudgeon.

And brining in George Orwell is not useful at this point. Facebook is not doing “newspeak”. Instead, Facebook is simply throwing up their hands as a result of being overwhelmed with what is demanded.

Yes, Facebook has problems with how they choose to moderate their users and what is posted on Facebook and Instagram.

But I have a bigger problem with those who think there is even a way to fix this.

What we’re looking at here is the real disparity between knowledgable experts and the masses.

And even I, who don’t like Facebook, can understand that Facebook can’t get in the business of actually determining whether to let ride each and every item posted.

The good doctor seems to think that his single issue is the only issue with which Facebook has to deal. The BMJ is almost nothing compared to what is posted on Facebook daily around the world.

Something like Facebook has to hire third party “fact checkers” because if the company did their own fact checking then everyone would whine about that.

Ultimately I think what we’re dealing with here is the “market of ideas”. And from that video it seems the doctor is not aware that the old-school way of communicating, where small groups of experts (in this case the readers and writers of BMJ entries) can stay behind their closed doors, is over. Anything written in a journal is open for use and abuse. And some publisher (in this case Facebook) of online content is always going to struggle with how any information is used and abused.

Over the years much has been discussed about issues which scientists create. The classic case is the atom bomb. Research has consequences, for good and bad. In science communities the debate continues over how much science efforts need to self-moderate their research.

So while I think the doctor has a point about the fact checkers not seeming to know whether to bring in their own medical experts to help the fact checkers indeed check facts, I think the protesting in that video is sort of OBE. We are far beyond the point where medical researchers can publish and be expected to not be torn into by every possible party who has a computer.

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b_sharp  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:45:20pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

I don’t check my followers very often but just noticed I’m only 9 followers away from the big 50K. A nice round number. Who doesn’t love round numbers? Do I get some kind of award, or maybe some cash? No?

Fame makes a mark.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:46:56pm

re: #72 The Pie Overlord!

But you can respond to the idiot who actually put forward that bill.

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sagehen  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:47:58pm

so Phillypretzel, do you have HBO? Are you watching The Gilded Age? It’s sorta kinda a Downton prequel; the nouveau riche family, the Russells, are the kind of people Cora Crawley came from…

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:51:03pm

re: #74 Dread Pirate Ron

I see 90% helmeted around here.

Why are they so selfish? Do they want us to support them forever?

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stpaulbear  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:51:06pm

re: #64 Dread Pirate Ron

“New research show 80-year old regular cyclists to have the immune system and body fat levels of people in their 20’s.”

No doubt that biking is a healthy exercise, but I’m not buying that statement. They’re using a tricked-out definition of “regular cyclists”.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:51:37pm
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stpaulbear  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:52:33pm

re: #67 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What is this link you have?

devangthakkar.com

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:55:00pm

My over the fence neighbor just handed me two frozen ducks he got hunting, as well as a couple of antelope tenderloins…going to have some fun with those. Said he’s pulling his pots out this week as they’re done with their commercial crab sales, so I should get a few live bugs to cook up later this week.

Have I said I love where I live? His boat is behind the Polaris.

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stpaulbear  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:55:25pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

I don’t check my followers very often but just noticed I’m only 9 followers away from the big 50K. A nice round number. Who doesn’t love round numbers? Do I get some kind of award, or maybe some cash? No?

A pizza.

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EstebanTornado1963  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:56:35pm

re: #89 stpaulbear

A pizza.

What toppings?😂

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Captain Ron  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:57:35pm

What the hell is that thing?

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:57:43pm
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darthstar  Feb 7, 2022 • 5:59:21pm

Aw, shit…I missed my turnover to 250K karma by 133…now I have to wait another 12 years until 500.

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:02:21pm

re: #91 Dread Pirate Ron

120 bucks for a well loved dildo? but only 34.50 for how it was loved?

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Dave In Austin  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:03:45pm

The Gilded Age is on , I’m out.

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:03:55pm

re: #90 EstebanTornado1963

What toppings?😂

Canadian bacon and pineapple unless you’re a communist.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:05:01pm

re: #89 stpaulbear

pizza is good

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:07:27pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

pizza is good

No argument here…though. Missus brought home a couple of truffles so we’re having polenta and ham with truffle butter. Yes, I will be riding the Peloton tomorrow morning.

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Captain Ron  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:08:38pm

re: #96 darthstar

Canadian bacon and pineapple unless you’re a communist.

Pepperoni and Canadian Bacon. Dangerous PCBs.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:09:08pm

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steve_davis  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:09:10pm

re: #98 darthstar

No argument here…though. Missus brought home a couple of truffles so we’re having polenta and ham with truffle butter. Yes, I will be riding the Peloton tomorrow morning.

I’ve got two pizzas frozen in pieces up in the freezer. They’re the good pizza joint’s deep dish, which means for around 30 bucks (50% off the second pizza on Tuesdays) I’ve got easy lunch or dinner for several weeks (can’t really eat more than a slice of the stuff at a time anymore. Ah, to be a teenager again!)

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:09:19pm

Trump’s hurricane sharpie map was among the items found at Mar a Lago. The National Archives should auction that off. I’d pay a couple hundred bucks for it and frame it…though I suspect it would go for far more than that.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:14:13pm
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Belafon  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:16:19pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Trump.

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:17:32pm

re: #95 Dave In Austin

The Gilded Age is on , I’m out.

Spoiler:

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:18:06pm

re: #100 Patricia Kayden

He still referred to that orange fucker as “President.” That pisses me off. He should have said ‘Donald’.

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:18:55pm

re: #102 darthstar

I don’t know, it might be worth more to put it in the Smithsonian’s Delusional Presidents exhibit.

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Captain Ron  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:20:37pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Canada should finance retaliatory truckers strikes in US.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:21:49pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:27:39pm
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jaunte  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:28:38pm

“Canadian”

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:31:01pm

Fuck you, Amazon Prime and your suggestions based on my shopping gullibility…I don’t need another t-shirt…but this one is funny.

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:32:04pm

re: #110 The Pie Overlord!

Let them cross, then let Canada confiscate their trucks pending their hearings. That’ll stop the assholes.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:34:56pm

re: #112 darthstar

Fuck you, Amazon Prime and your suggestions based on my shopping gullibility…I don’t need another t-shirt…but this one is funny.

Bought it for my son for his birthday.

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Dangerman  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:35:42pm

re: #107 jaunte

I don’t know, it might be worth more to put it in the Smithsonian’s Delusional Presidents exhibit.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:37:21pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:37:50pm
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jaunte  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:39:14pm
“Over time that would mean starvation for people in the cities”

And also over less time, for people in the country.

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darthstar  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:42:17pm

re: #118 jaunte

And also over less time, for people in the country.

Tucker: Turning America blue one viewer at a time.

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jaunte  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:43:52pm

re: #119 darthstar

He’s talking to the same bozos who imagine they can survive on shooting deer, rabbit and squirrel.

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Captain Magic  Feb 7, 2022 • 6:51:08pm
He’s talking to the same bozos who imagine they can survive on shooting deer, rabbit and squirrel.

Let them eat squirrel brains -soon they’ll be dead.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2022 • 7:11:02pm
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darthstar  Feb 7, 2022 • 7:11:18pm

Polenta, ham, and braising greens with shaved black truffle.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 7, 2022 • 7:20:37pm

re: #123 darthstar

Polenta, ham, and braising greens with shaved black truffle.

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Nice Twistware. I like it.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 7, 2022 • 7:22:11pm
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Florida Panhandler  Feb 7, 2022 • 7:25:57pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

If anyone is doubting this 6-3 SCOTUS will not assist the Republican Party’s overt hijacking of the upcoming elections and deliver the White House to Trump or any other right wing criminal you are not paying attention.

The fix is in. This SCOTUS has no regard for anything other than wealthy white male supremacy. As masochistic as it may sound, these current right wing justices are true believers in the cause, whether they be white, black, or a woman. They are in fact sadists above all. And this is their time to inflict what they have long dreamed about.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 7, 2022 • 7:27:38pm
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William Lewis  Feb 7, 2022 • 7:29:14pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

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Glad I followed you before I got suspended :)

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 7, 2022 • 7:31:03pm
“The president accepted Dr. Eric Lander’s resignation letter this evening with gratitude for his work at OSTP on the pandemic, the Cancer Moonshot, climate change, and other key priorities,” White House press secretary Jen Psaki said in a statement, referring to the Office of Science and Technology Policy. “He knows that Dr. Lander will continue to make important contributions to the scientific community in the years ahead.”

In his resignation letter, Lander said he was “devastated that I caused hurt to past and present colleagues” and did not believe he could continue effectively in his role.

A White House investigation into Lander — the first presidential science adviser to hold a cabinet-level position — found credible evidence he had bullied and spoken harshly to members of his staff. The White House said senior officials had met with him to discuss his behavior, and had he continued within the administration, he would be subject to “corrective actions.”

Yet in allowing Lander to remain on staff, the White House risked violating Biden’s pledge — made in the early days of the administration — that he would fire “on the spot” any staffer who treated others with disrespect.

Embattled Biden Science Adviser Eric Lander Resigns After Outcry (Bloomberg via MSN)

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 7, 2022 • 7:55:03pm

re: #119 darthstar

Tucker: Turning America blue one viewer at a time.

Don’t count on that.

And here is what my brain-dead Trumpster friend posted on FB:

Insurance companies are reporting there is a 40% increase in deaths in the healthiest in our population in the ages from 18-65.
What is going on? Our media should be panicking about this but no one is reporting this.
What has happened in the last year that has never happened before?
We need to have an answer.

Some idiot congressman was discussing this a couple weeks ago — so don’t know why she was so delayed in picking up this information.

When there is that level of ignorance, it is clear that Tucker is turning his audience into zombies one viewer at a time.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 7, 2022 • 8:01:39pm

re: #123 darthstar

Polenta, ham, and braising greens with shaved black truffle.

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What are you having while the dog gets that plate of food?
/ ;)

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 7, 2022 • 8:09:34pm
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Captain Ron  Feb 7, 2022 • 8:15:58pm

2x4s with nails should be prepared for the counter-protest.

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Captain Ron  Feb 7, 2022 • 8:31:26pm

Swedish meatballs between chocolate chip cookies. Surprisingly good actually.

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Belafon  Feb 7, 2022 • 8:36:11pm

re: #133 Dread Pirate Ron

2x4s with nails should be prepared for the counter-protest.

Road spikes

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retired cynic  Feb 7, 2022 • 8:40:38pm

re: #134 Dread Pirate Ron

No.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 7, 2022 • 8:42:48pm

re: #136 retired cynic

No.

I second this!

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Captain Ron  Feb 7, 2022 • 9:24:53pm

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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2022 • 9:43:20pm

re: #132 DodgerFan1988

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Because really, what better way to get your protest hated on a national scale than working to shut down one of the most anticipated Superb Owls in years?

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 7, 2022 • 9:47:36pm

re: #126 Florida Panhandler

If anyone is doubting this 6-3 SCOTUS will not assist the Republican Party’s overt hijacking of the upcoming elections and deliver the White House to Trump or any other right wing criminal you are not paying attention.

The fix is in. This SCOTUS has no regard for anything other than wealthy white male supremacy. As masochistic as it may sound, these current right wing justices are true believers in the cause, whether they be white, black, or a woman. They are in fact sadists above all. And this is their time to inflict what they have long dreamed about.

This very same supreme court could have done this in 2020. A couple of them were supposedly chose specifically to do this. What did they do? They chose to give Trump the finger, several times over, and now MAGA world is now calling Brett Kavanaugh a liberal. So please spare me with the unnecessary doom and gloom. Worry more about RvW and get ready to use it as a motivator for people to vote.

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RinaX  Feb 7, 2022 • 9:56:29pm

I suffered my first Wordle fail on Saturday. Blame it on the margaritas I had before playing. Anyways, this is #2 in my newest streak.
Wordle 234 4/6

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Dave In Austin  Feb 7, 2022 • 9:58:24pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2022 • 10:03:10pm

re: #142 Dave In Austin

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“Yeah, well, that’s different!”

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 7, 2022 • 10:16:29pm

re: #141 RinaX

So my wordle —- another one where there were multiple possibilities

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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2022 • 10:19:28pm

Oh, and consider the timing of that clip: March 2020. IOW, Rogan was totally cool with vaccines when it was thought that getting them out there and the public on them would bring a quick halt to the pandemic to Trump’s credit. If you have the stomach to go through the archives, you’ll probably find that his attitude towards vaccines changed right around Nov or Dec 2020, the moment it became obvious that any benefit to vaccines would end up credited to Biden.

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stpaulbear  Feb 7, 2022 • 10:23:47pm

re: #144 Hecuba’s daughter

We played the same game except I needed a couple tries to get to your starting point.

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stpaulbear  Feb 7, 2022 • 10:27:35pm

re: #146 stpaulbear

Refresh 146. I posted too soon

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Targetpractice  Feb 7, 2022 • 10:37:22pm

And really, I don’t expect Rogan defenders to respond to that clip in any way but hauling the goalposts to a new location, most likely slaughtering a bunch of syllables to argue that Rogan is not against vaccines but against mandates. Which is why he keeps inviting anti-vaxxers and “skeptics” onto his show and letting them spew without any real pushback.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 7, 2022 • 11:18:35pm

re: #146 stpaulbear

We played the same game except I needed a couple tries to get to your starting point.

Wordle 234 6/6

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Sometimes the first couple words allow you to eliminate some of the combinations — and sometimes not!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 8, 2022 • 12:31:12am

re: #87 stpaulbear

devangthakkar.com

Thank you!

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 8, 2022 • 1:23:02am

Thought I had it for sure on the 4th guess.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 8, 2022 • 1:56:01am

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Hubs and I play against each other daily (he’s usually better than me getting it way too often in 3 where it more often takes me 4) and a few days ago he’s stuck and says “nothing end in GHT” and I just 👀 and said “oh really?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 8, 2022 • 3:06:38am

Used to listen to Spotify regularly on my ex-GF’s account and found that it did a good job of suggesting material based on our tastes.

But I have stopped listening to it since. Do not have it on my phone or computer.

I am again looking at the current debate as one that illustrates how poorly educated Americans are in matters of media and civics and how easily it is to yank people’s chains in that respect by using the right buzzwords.

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 3:15:28am
The conventional wisdom now is that Mr. Trump controls the Republican Party and can have the 2024 nomination if he wants it. But someone should remind voters that Mr. Trump ended as a three-time election loser. He mobilized Democrats against him in historic numbers to cost the GOP the House in 2018, then the White House in 2020 and finally the two Georgia Senate seats in 2021.

Wsj

And I’d go with five time.
Lost the popular vote twice

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 8, 2022 • 3:19:32am

re: #154 Dangerman

The conventional wisdom now is that Mr. Trump controls the Republican Party and can have the 2024 nomination if he wants it

He controls a rock-solid share of the GOP voter base and can win any primary he enters. In that respect, he controls the party. And as I have just read, even someone like JD Vance is foundering in the Ohio GOP senatorial primaries because his opponents dug out some old anti-Trump statements of his.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 8, 2022 • 3:22:28am

Oh dear. Sarah Kendzior’s podcasts are on Spotify…

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 8, 2022 • 3:45:55am
Click to Reveal

Today worked out pretty well.

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JC1  Feb 8, 2022 • 4:12:46am

Got it in 3, first time in a while.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 8, 2022 • 4:16:14am

re: #157 Dopamine Fish

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thanks for the hide

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 8, 2022 • 4:24:02am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

thanks for the hide

But how do you know?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 8, 2022 • 4:29:31am

re: #160 Barefoot Grin

But how do you know?

I just assumed given the context…was I correct?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 8, 2022 • 4:30:35am

(I will do the same if I ever nail Sarah K and want to share the nitty-gritty details)

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 8, 2022 • 4:36:04am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I just assumed given the context…was I correct?

I’ll give you six guesses.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 8, 2022 • 4:39:46am

Anyone want to know more About This Item? And why would you have to dry clean fake leather? Oh, Amazon, you crack me up sometimes.

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lawhawk  Feb 8, 2022 • 4:41:10am

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Court’s FedSoc wing decided there wasn’t enough time to act using the VRA to stop the Alabama legislature from disenfranchising blacks of their right to vote. Roberts made this possible when he overturned preclearance in Shelby.

This would have never passed muster under Shelby, but by killing preclearance, states were free to push these gerrymandered schemes to disenfranchise persons of color.

Now, they’re arguing that there’s not enough time to act to fix the districting. That’s total bullshit. They have the ability to set a time limit to impose new districts ahead of primaries and there’s enough time to get this done. They chose not to, thereby undermining the VRA even further.

Once again, the GOP attacks voting rights, and the Court gives them the tools to do it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 8, 2022 • 4:42:06am

re: #163 Barefoot Grin

I’ll give you six guesses.

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did I guess correctly?

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 8, 2022 • 4:49:55am
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Patricia Kayden  Feb 8, 2022 • 4:50:57am
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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:00:10am
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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:15:02am

This is when you start hoping for a delta-omicron crossover.

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:20:36am

re: #167 Patricia Kayden

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He has to put his nose in everything

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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:28:22am

re: #171 Dangerman

“No one should have to apologize for hating n*****s.”

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jeffreyw  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:29:21am

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:36:25am

re: #171 Dangerman

He has to put his nose in everything

.

He knows how to appeal to his base and remain relevant

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steve_davis  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:37:00am

re: #120 jaunte

He’s talking to the same bozos who imagine they can survive on shooting deer, rabbit and squirrel.

In South Carolina you could definitely survive on deer and feral hog.

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Captain Magic  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:37:48am
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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:43:46am

re: #174 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He knows how to appeal to his base and remain relevant

he thinks he knows everything and has to be the center of attention.
yeah, they eat it up

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:45:00am

re: #177 Dangerman

he thinks he knows everything and has to be the center of attention.
yeah, they eat it up

His base thinks he knows everything and he is the center of their attention span

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:45:06am

re: #175 steve_davis

In South Carolina you could definitely survive on deer and feral hog.

but you couldnt feed a platoon of yahoos for very long

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(((Archangel1)))  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:45:22am

Wordle 234 6/6*

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Excuse me while I go stand in the shame corner for the next half hour…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:46:37am

re: #175 steve_davis

In South Carolina you could definitely survive on deer and feral hog.

If you know how to dress and preserve it properly…

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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:51:24am
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steve_davis  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:53:16am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If you know how to dress and preserve it properly…

In South Carolina? Fuuuuuck. Always got to fight that one kid who wants to write the process essay on how to dress the deer. Imagine if Pennsylvania’s love of deer season smoked crack off tin foil for a couple months. That’s South Carolina. Cops literally arrest dozens every year for shooting at a mechanical deer they set up, which causes passerby to unload from their vehicles. Hey, those rear window gun mounts aren’t for decoration.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 8, 2022 • 5:55:42am

I am just saying, trichinosis and various other issues are likely to be as deadly as Covid if there is a breakdown in the meat supply…

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:12:24am

re: #173 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:21:52am

re: #175 steve_davis

In South Carolina you could definitely survive on deer and feral hog.

Can you really do that, if you don’t kill your neighbors first to get rid of the competition for now very limited food supplies?

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darthstar  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:25:40am

Mornin’ wordlers. Had to use up all the possible consonant blends.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:28:07am

re: #116 Charles Johnson

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“Over time that would mean starvation for people in the cities goober blockades destroyed by A-10s, Apaches, and (my favorite) 120 mm canister shot, their remains bulldozed into nameless graves, and the surviving traitors and terrorists forced at gunpoint to make deliveries … at least for the few weeks it would take to recruit and train replacement drivers.”

Tucker’s audience is over estimating trucker unity on this issue and the power of their alleged monopoly to an insane degree. This rather reminds me of something from a very different time and place, the Suez Canal, 1956. When Nasser nationalized the canal, the Anglo-French canal company responded that they weren’t worried, since the Egyptians would not be able to operate the canal without skilled and experienced European canal pilots (the company having failed to train Egyptian pilots in the 85 years they had been operating it.) It didn’t work out that way. About a third of the foreign pilots, Americans, Japanese and some Europeans, told the company to fuck off and signed on with the Egyptians. Kruschev made a big show of sending Russian master mariners to help out, and they did help. Finally, many of the Egyptians assistants and long time helpers proved to have developed substantial piloting skill themselves once they were allowed to use it.
The canal was operating normally within a few weeks, so the imperialists went to plan B, invasion and war.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:30:42am

More than half of Kentucky prison jobs are vacant, and the Department of Corrections is paying for huge amounts of overtime as employees work 60-72 hour weeks. This is largely because the state hasn’t given employees any raises for years and the state pension was gutted for new hires because its the worst funded in the nation. But the state is flush with cash, so even the the GOP dominated legislature is proposing 6% raises for all state workers. Another part of the problem, not mentioned in the article, is that Kentucky has maybe the highest incarceration rate in the nation, and hence the world. kentucky.com (the article may be behind a paywall)

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:31:07am
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HRH Stanley Sea  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:34:14am

Yay me. I was worried for a minute.

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lawhawk  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:37:21am

re: #190 DodgerFan1988

American slavery in the global context.

Yeah, the US ended slavery later than most other countries. The US instituted segregation and Jim Crow to maintain racist power and control over former enslaved persons and to deny their rights and freedoms. And the current GOP is still at it.

The justifications for slavery included religious belief/teachings, as well as pseudoscientific ones. We still see those excuses and justifications today.

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:41:25am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If you know how to dress and preserve it properly…

Ive been called a snappy dresser.

preserving a fresh kill is a whole separate thing no matter what you’re wearing

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:42:08am

re: #193 Dangerman

Ive been called a snappy dresser.

preserving a fresh kill is a whole separate thing no matter what you’re wearing

Every girl crazy ‘bout a sharp dressed hog…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:44:03am

Yes, it was other Africans selling slaves to the Europeans…

But hey, the Colombians/Afghans would not be producing and selling cocaine/heroin if there were not such a lucrative market for it in America and Europe…

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:47:20am

Fifty years ago today:

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:47:25am

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:47:47am

Morning Lizard’s. The Wok arrived last night. I’ll work on seasoning today.

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darthstar  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:50:47am

You knew it was coming…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:51:59am

re: #192 lawhawk

Truth is, we didn’t actually end shit.

There is more slavery throughout the world TODAY than there was even in times of antiquity.

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darthstar  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:52:27am

I can tell you right now I won’t be a regular mathler.

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A Cranky One  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:54:09am

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A Mom Anon  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:55:02am

re: #190 DodgerFan1988

Some asshat in that thread is using the Washington Examiner’s opinion pages to try and make her look like a liar. The essay parses her words, saying she was wrong about the country being basically founded on slavery. Instead they say she corrected herself by saying many but not all of the white people who came here wanted slavery to remain in an interview. So somehow that makes her whole 1619 Project invalid, or something. The National Review is exactly what she called it, a tabloid publication.

I was raised by right wing conservatives and after all this time I still don’t get how anyone can think like this and truly believe this mess. Not and remain sane and well adjusted.

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Teukka  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:55:16am

re: #169 Belafon

Amplified. My Contribution:

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:57:00am

re: #199 darthstar

You knew it was coming…

mathler.com 7 3/6

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I was told there would be no math.

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darthstar  Feb 8, 2022 • 6:57:08am

Last night’s dinner…polenta with braised greens, ham and shaved black truffle.

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wrenchwench  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:00:48am

Not pure luck. That would be a 1/6.

Click to Reveal

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Teukka  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:04:16am

This will not end well for GA. Mark my words.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:04:57am
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darthstar  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:05:37am

Funny thing happened on the way home Sunday - after spending an afternoon playing with a friend’s black poodle, Milo sees a woman with curly black hair in the car next to us, thinks she’s a poodle, and barks at her. I had to do a double-take myself as you couldn’t see her face at first.

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:06:14am

re: #204 Teukka

Amplified. My Contribution:

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Yes you can be unvaccinated and not wear z mask and never get covid

If you do get it, it might be a mild case.

Or it could be WHAMMO!!!

Oh yes, definitely worth the risk

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:06:52am

In a nutshell:

We have slavery in America because there were white settlers who were too weak or too lazy to do the work on their own and too cheap to pay people enough to do it for them.

They tried forcing the natives, but they would just escape into the wilderness, so they had to forcibly import people who were totally unfamiliar with the countryside and dependent on them to survive.

And we are not supposed to feel bad about people who would do such things?

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Decatur Deb  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:07:03am

re: #208 Teukka

This will not end well for GA. Mark my words.

No need to worry until they ban handwashing in hospitals.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:07:35am

re: #211 Dangerman

Oh yes, definitely worth the risk

“The price of FREEDOM!!!”

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:07:40am

re: #206 darthstar

Last night’s dinner…polenta with braised greens, ham and shaved black truffle.

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Were doing reruns now?

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Decatur Deb  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:09:11am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In a nutshell:

We have slavery in America because the original white settlers were too weak or too lazy to do the work on their own and too cheap to pay people enough to do it for them.

…
And we are not supposed to feel bad about people who would do such things?

The Amish and other Anabaptist settlers of Pennsylvania would like a word…

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:10:01am

re: #203 A Mom Anon

Your parents and their allies are pushing a myth collection that was concocted mostly by post-civil-war southern whites and is nonsense. However — and I regret very much having to say this — the 1619 project people are well on their way to concocting a myth that, while more congenial in many ways, is just as far from accurate (and has just as little regard for facts). Its authors are pushing their (political) views, not seeking truth, and propaganda is the death of history.

Stick with the history types, not the political scientists.

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:10:02am

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:10:35am

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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:10:39am

re: #216 Decatur Deb

The Amish and other Anabaptist settlers of Pennsylvania would like a word…

Not every white person….

It’s like every other conversation.

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lawhawk  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:11:05am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They enslaved people in the hopes of civilizing them. They exterminated Native Americans because they were savages. They enslaved people because that free labor helped enrich them personally and let them free to enjoy life, when others were doing the hard work.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:11:07am

re: #197 Dangerman

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If abortion being made illegal in half the country this summer doesn’t get the young people to the polls in November, I don’t know what will.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:11:14am

re: #216 Decatur Deb

The Amish and other Anabaptist settlers of Pennsylvania would like a word…

I fixed the wording on that…obviously not all white settlers

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jeffreyw  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:11:43am

re: #215 Dangerman

Were doing reruns now?

He’s angling for the coveted Pie Overlord endorsement.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:12:39am

re: #220 Belafon

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I fixed the wording on that…obviously not all white settlers

It’s easy to get swept up in media reality.

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William Lewis  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:13:10am

re: #196 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Fifty years ago today:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:14:29am

re: #221 lawhawk

They enslaved people in the hopes of civilizing them. They exterminated Native Americans because they were savages. They enslaved people because that free labor helped enrich them personally and let them free to enjoy life, when others were doing the hard work.

…those were the arguments.

They did not care about “civilizing” slaves beyond teaching them to be subservient.

They exterminated the Natives because they were occupying real estate that they had claimed for themselves and their slaves to work on…

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No Malarkey!  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:15:43am

re: #208 Teukka

This will not end well for GA. Mark my words.

I hope there are still enough sane Georgia GOP legislators to stop this.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:15:45am

re: #219 Dangerman

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That person does not know what “gaslight” means.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:17:02am

re: #228 No Malarkey!

I hope there are still enough sane Georgia GOP legislators to stop this.

Yeah, right. The GOP is going full GQP. I hope this means that they’re going to drive the crazy train right off the cliff, but I’m not on the optimistic side of the swinging pendulum right now.

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:18:43am

re: #228 No Malarkey!

I hope there are still enough sane Georgia GOP legislators to stop this.

Sane People will still vax their kids whether its a school requirement or not

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:19:33am

re: #229 Punish Domestic Terrorists

That person does not know what “gaslight” means.

Yeah they dont always ring on key

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Decatur Deb  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:19:57am

re: #230 Dopamine Fish

Yeah, right. The GOP is going full GQP. I hope this means that they’re going to drive the crazy train right off the cliff, but I’m not on the optimistic side of the swinging pendulum right now.

There is a fairly wide tolerance for individual/group irrationality. But when we get crazy enough, reality kills us. Coming soon to a GOP state near you.

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Teukka  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:20:40am

re: #213 Decatur Deb

No need to worry until they ban handwashing in hospitals.

*crackle* “Dr Semmelweis, paging doctor Ignaz Semmelweis…”

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:20:42am

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steve_davis  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:22:22am

Found this in one of Dad’s CD’s labeled “My Documents.” Okay. Dad was brilliant, but his mind was organized along Byzantine lines. Had to chuckle, as I am wearing what I can only imagine is the single most perfectly tied tie in the history of the universe. Glasses in my shirt pocket, because I knew the photographer was up there and I’m vain as hell, or at least I was before I started posting selfies of me and my cat while we lie in bed together. I think this is 1999.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:24:10am

re: #231 Dangerman

Sane People will still vax their kids whether its a school requirement or not

But kids shouldn’t have to suffer because their parents are antivaxxers. Who could’ve guessed that the development of lifesaving vaccines during a deadly pandemic would create a mass anti-vaccine political movement? Insanity.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:24:41am

re: #224 jeffreyw

He’s angling for the coveted Pie Overlord endorsement.

I’m still waiting for mine. Guess I’m going to have to up my game to the next level. Yeah, the competition around here is that great.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:25:03am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You keep saying that, but it doesn’t get truer as you say it. In fact, tobacco, rice and cotton cultivation (also sugar) are labor intensive. Without some kind of imported labor, whether European or not, they couldn’t have existed, and indentured Europeans worked side by side with Indian slaver before Africans mostly replaced them.

(Also, just by the by, the enslaving of Indians in the south continued right up to the Emancipation Proclamation.)

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:25:13am

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:25:47am

re: #237 No Malarkey!

But kids shouldn’t have to suffer because their parents are antivaxxers. Who could’ve guessed that the development of lifesaving vaccines during a deadly pandemic would create a mass anti-vaccine political movement? Insanity.

What’s completely incomprehensible to me is that the people who are so vocally anti-COVID-vaxx (specifically, not talking about the general purpose anti-vaxxers who have been there all along) were fully pro-vaxx in the early days, when it was the “Trump vaccine,” before it became clear that Joe Biden would be President when the vaccine started rolling out in earnest.

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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:30:28am

re: #231 Dangerman

Sane People will still vax their kids whether its a school requirement or not

Yet their kids might still get sick if we drop below the threshold to keep the viruses from spreading.

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Mattand  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:30:59am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In a nutshell:

We have slavery in America because there were white settlers who were too weak or too lazy to do the work on their own and too cheap to pay people enough to do it for them.

They tried forcing the natives, but they would just escape into the wilderness, so they had to forcibly import people who were totally unfamiliar with the countryside and dependent on them to survive.

And we are not supposed to feel bad about people who would do such things?

I haven’t favorited that many posts in my time here, but this is one of them.

This comment just speaks volumes of what most White Americans refuse to admit to themselves: we ascended to our place in history on the backs of slaves while preaching to the world we stood for freedom and equality.

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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:39:10am

re: #239 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

You keep saying that, but it doesn’t get truer as you say it. In fact, tobacco, rice and cotton cultivation (also sugar) are labor intensive. Without some kind of imported labor, whether European or not, they couldn’t have existed, and indentured Europeans worked side by side with Indian slaver before Africans mostly replaced them.

(Also, just by the by, the enslaving of Indians in the south continued right up to the Emancipation Proclamation.)

Everything you’re saying seems to confirm Wendell’s statement to me. Why couldn’t the owners have worked along side their workers rather than enslaving them?

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Captain Magic  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:45:18am

From Electoral-Vote:

What Other Crimes Did Trump Commit?
Prosecutors sometimes have to make a tough decision: Indict a suspect for the terrible crimes that he committed but that might be hard to prove to a jury, or indict him for mundane crimes that are much easier to prove. The former may be more satisfying, but getting someone locked up for petty theft robbing a liquor store is sometimes easier than for a disputed murder committed doing the robbery. The poster child here is Al Capone, who wasn’t nailed for the crimes he committed as a mobster, but for failing to pay income tax on his ill-gotten gains.

The same logic could apply to Donald Trump. Nailing him for a conspiracy to commit sedition could be tough to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt (especially if one or more jury members were hard-core Trumpists). But there are also some more mundane crimes available that are much easier to prove, including these:

The Ukrainian coverup: Someone who knew about Donald Trump’s call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky filed a whistleblower complaint according to law. The inspector general concluded it was credible and under law was required to inform Congress. He didn’t. Somebody blocked him from doing it? Who? It shouldn’t be hard to find out since the IG is alive and available to testify under oath. There is written evidence from Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI), of all people, suggesting that Trump was the one and was actively trying to cover his tracks. Obstructing a federal official from carrying out his duties is a federal felony.

Shredding official records: Trump often tore up federal records by hand. This goes back to at least 2018. At that time, two federal employees told the media that their job was to paste the pieces together so the National Archives could preserve them, as required by the Federal Records Act 18 U.S.C. 2071. That someone put them back together later doesn’t matter. It is a crime to destroy federal records that the law says must be archived. If 18 U.S.C. 2071 seems vaguely familiar, it might be. That is the section of the law that Republicans accused Hillary Clinton of violating when she erased some of her e-mails. Of course, whether she broke the law depends on which e-mails she erased. Federal law did not require her to archive e-birthday cards from Chelsea.

The Republican National Convention: Trump ran part of the 2020 Republican National Convention from the White House lawn. The Hatch Act prohibits federal employees from carrying out partisan political activities on federal property, but the president is exempt from the Act. However, 18 U.S.C. 610. makes it a federal felony to command a federal employee to engage in political activity. The president is not exempt from this law. There was a large set erected for Trump’s speech on the lawn, with a stage, flags, lighting, a sound system, and much more. Did the stage crew fairy do this on her own? Or did Trump order one or more federal employees to engage in an in-kind contribution to his campaign, a federal crime? It shouldn’t be hard to find some crew members who set up the stage, lights, sound, etc., ask them who gave them their orders, and follow the chain up the tree. At some point a civil servant will point to a Trump aide. Then the aide can be asked under oath: “Did you just decide on your own to erect a stage on the White House lawn, or did someone tell you to do so, and if so, whom?”
None of these are terribly difficult to investigate. AG Merrick Garland doesn’t have to use his 40 years experience full-time on this. A couple of summer interns should be able to collect most of the evidence for him to judge in a couple of months. (V)

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:48:53am

re: #244 Belafon

Everything you’re saying seems to confirm Wendell’s statement to me. Why couldn’t the owners have worked along side their workers rather than enslaving them?

They’d have to work, rather than lounge around and drink while exploiting others, which is the American way. Republican elites wouldn’t even accept that today.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:50:49am

re: #244 Belafon

Everything you’re saying seems to confirm Wendell’s statement to me. Why couldn’t the owners have worked along side their workers rather than enslaving them?

That’s like asking why factory owner/managers don’t work the assembly lines. For one thing, they have other things to do; for another, once we have some money, most of us cut back on the manual work — in which those early colonist/owners are no different from any other humans.

Also, everything everyone is saying is about plantation owners, who aren’t the norm. Most southern slaveowners had one or two slaves snd yes, they worked alongside them. They had to.

Also, we’re talking about multiple colonies, founded and developed by all sorts of different people over centuries. These twenty-five-words-or-less summaries the twitter universe is so fond of are practically bound to be annoying nonsense.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:51:09am

re: #244 Belafon

Everything you’re saying seems to confirm Wendell’s statement to me. Why couldn’t the owners have worked along side their workers rather than enslaving them?

For the same reason Bezos doesn’t deliver my packages. Humans.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:56:31am

re: #239 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

You keep saying that, but it doesn’t get truer as you say it. In fact, tobacco, rice and cotton cultivation (also sugar) are labor intensive. Without some kind of imported labor, whether European or not, they couldn’t have existed, and indentured Europeans worked side by side with Indian slaver before Africans mostly replaced them.

(Also, just by the by, the enslaving of Indians in the south continued right up to the Emancipation Proclamation.)

I understand the need for imported labor. but indentured servants are being paid and are not the property of the landowner. that was never enough: they needed to force people to do the hardest work

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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:58:37am

re: #247 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

That’s like asking why factory owner/managers don’t work the assembly lines. For one thing, they have other things to do; for another, once we have some money, most of us cut back on the manual work — in which those early colonist/owners are no different from any other humans.

Also, everything everyone is saying is about plantation owners, who aren’t the norm. Most southern slaveowners had one or two slaves snd yes, they worked alongside them. They had to.

Also, we’re talking about multiple colonies, founded and developed by all sorts of different people over centuries. These twenty-five-words-or-less summaries the twitter universe is so fond of are practically bound to be annoying nonsense.

As long as you’re treating farms as factories.

Yes, to get the plantations to super-scale, the owners would need to act more like managers than laborers. Which would be fine, if they were paying the laborers. But, as Wendell said, they were too cheap to pay the labor force what they would need to do, and they didn’t want to do the work on the farm.

I’m pretty sure a lot of farmers would scoff at the idea that they do the same type of work as a factory manager.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:58:47am

Youtube Video

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 8, 2022 • 7:59:14am

re: #249 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I understand the need for imported labor. but indentured servants are being paid and are not the property of the landowner. that was never enough they needed to force people to do the hardest work

No better than Orcs.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:00:23am

I overslept this morning because I stayed up late watching the figure skating competition.

Still half asleep while I did this:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:00:30am

re: #224 jeffreyw

He’s angling for the coveted Pie Overlord endorsement.

might be handicapped by the ham with that one…

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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:01:17am

Even the husbands of the women with cooking shows on Food Network know to look busy when the camera’s pointing at them.

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Mattand  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:02:27am

re: #247 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

That’s like asking why factory owner/managers don’t work the assembly lines. For one thing, they have other things to do; for another, once we have some money, most of us cut back on the manual work — in which those early colonist/owners are no different from any other humans.

Also, everything everyone is saying is about plantation owners, who aren’t the norm. Most southern slaveowners had one or two slaves snd yes, they worked alongside them. They had to.

Also, we’re talking about multiple colonies, founded and developed by all sorts of different people over centuries. These twenty-five-words-or-less summaries the twitter universe is so fond of are practically bound to be annoying nonsense.

I know it’s early in the morning, I don’t know if I’ve seen the whole conversation, and I don’t want to start a pile-on, but:

I’ve told this story before, but when the in-laws visited the Constitution Center in Philly (great museum, by the way, if you ever get the opportunity), at some point the subject of slavery came up. Within that video/lecture/display/whatever, it was mentioned that slavery was a huge reason the American economy exploded.

Because, naturally, when you keep humans as property and their only compensation is “I won’t torture or murder you unless you do what I want”, and give them the barest of necessities just to keep them alive, it tends to put money in your pocket.

Afterwards, my father-in-law just was beyond excited to learn that slavery was the engine of the American economy. He repeated it to me a few times as I stood in stunned silence, because the follow-up of “But yeah, that’s a bad thing” never appeared. Just never occurred to him, for a variety of reasons, to make that extra step.

So, again, trying to be civil because I don’t think this is your intent, but, dude: you’re really leaning in that direction.

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gocart mozart  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:06:23am

re: #253 The Pie Overlord!

I did the Wordle on my second guess. My best result yet. I don’t know how to screenshot it.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:06:42am

Does the starlink launch always cut off? I never got to Max Q!

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Teukka  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:06:57am

Kurzgesagt dropped the first one for the year.

Youtube Video

Soundtrack behind spoiler.

Click to Reveal

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:08:58am

re: #257 gocart mozart

I did the Wordle on my second guess. My best result yet. I don’t know how to screenshot it.

Just click the SHARE on your stats popup and it will copy the grid to your clipboard.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:09:10am

re: #257 gocart mozart

I did the Wordle on my second guess. My best result yet. I don’t know how to screenshot it.

There’s a button labeled “Share” after you complete it, click or tap that and it copies to your clipboard and you can paste it in here.

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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:09:23am

re: #257 gocart mozart

I did the Wordle on my second guess. My best result yet. I don’t know how to screenshot it.

I haven’t played it, but the google says something about clicking on the rankings button to get to something so that you can share it the way people are here.

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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:10:30am

re: #259 Teukka

Kurzgesagt dropped the first one for the year.

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Roland Emmerich should have made Seven Eves.

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gocart mozart  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:14:50am
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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:19:24am
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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:19:57am

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:24:06am

re: #266 The Pie Overlord!

“Horse farm owner” WTF Detroit News! Just say “Mother of School Shooter”

That would be two different people, I think.

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:27:11am

re: #250 Belafon

As long as you’re treating farms as factories.

Yes, to get the plantations to super-scale, the owners would need to act more like managers than laborers. Which would be fine, if they were paying the laborers. But, as Wendell said, they were too cheap to pay the labor force what they would need to do, and they didn’t want to do the work on the farm.

I’m pretty sure a lot of farmers would scoff at the idea that they do the same type of work as a factory manager.

while we’re piling on,

- yes, whether the owner worked side by side is an issue, but imo a distraction

- that they werent paying for the labor is of course a huge issue and to a large extent it’s what allowed the ‘business model’ to work

- then there’s that third thing - the ‘workers’ were not merely unpaid labor. they were slaves. they had no choice, no rights. they couldnt leave and look for other work or a different life. they were miserably, horribly treated, mostly in abhorrent living conditions, etc. oh and then there was the torture…

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dat_said  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:32:01am

re: #213 Decatur Deb

No need to worry until they ban handwashing in hospitals.

One of the most frustrating times in my implantable medical device career was when the company sent me out into the field to get some insight into device infection rates.

Followed one doctor on rounds as he’s making wound checks and as he’s getting ready to do one I have to pipe up and say “Doctor, you should scrub your hands first”. He got grumpy and told me he had done that after the last patient. I reminded him that he had shaken a couple hands between rooms, held a clip board, and handled at least one doorknob. I think he was pissed at me but he did wash his hands.

Interviewing a different doctor and assistant and I start off asking if he knew what their infection rate was. His reply was they didn’t have a problem (not what I asked). So, I changed tactics and asked how many implants does his group do a year - about one a week. Did they have any infections last year - we had two, we flushed one with antibiotics and that cleared and one we had to remove the device and leads, oh, we had another but that cleared on it’s own so you can see we took care of everything and no device infection problems here. In my head I’m thinking 4% infection rate, oh wait now you’re telling me it’s 6% - yeah, small numbers but that’s way over the average of 1.5% so maybe you should review your practices.

And then a third doctor doing EP tests eating a bagel and a cupcake while standing over the patient….

Yeah, definitely frustrating

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:33:16am

re: #165 lawhawk

The Court’s FedSoc wing decided there wasn’t enough time to act using the VRA to stop the Alabama legislature from disenfranchising blacks of their right to vote. Roberts made this possible when he overturned preclearance in Shelby.

…

Once again, the GOP attacks voting rights, and the Court gives them the tools to do it.

It was the Federalist Society that launched the attack on Voting Rights. It is the KKK for those with suits, ties, and law degrees.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:37:24am

re: #259 Teukka

Dammit, if only that had been posted before Roland Emmerich started writing Moonfall, who knows, he might’ve come up with one hell of a great disaster flick. Then again, based on the descriptions in that video, it might look too much like 2012, which is still my favorite of his. An absolutely bonkers, over-the-top “end of the world” film.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:37:37am
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sagehen  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:41:08am

I thought about watching the Olympics on TV, but then realized YouTube has all the Kamila Valieva and Nathan Chen, and I could easily live without most of the rest. (also followed the occasional recommended link, like the German ice-dancing team who did a Joker and Harley Quinn routine.)

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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:42:21am

re: #272 Dopamine Fish

Change could to should.

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retired cynic  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:43:41am

re: #273 sagehen

I signed up for the free NBC account that they advertised for viewing the Olympics. Good thing it was free. I never could find anything I wanted to watch that was viewable on the free account. meh

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Decatur Deb  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:45:20am

re: #269 dat_said

One of the most frustrating times in my implantable medical device career was when the company sent me out into the field to get some insight into device infection rates.

Followed one doctor on rounds as he’s making wound checks and as he’s getting ready to do one I have to pipe up and say “Doctor, you should scrub your hands first”. He got grumpy and told me he had done that after the last patient. I reminded him that he had shaken a couple hands between rooms, held a clip board, and handled at least one doorknob. I think he was pissed at me but he did wash his hands.

Interviewing a different doctor and assistant and I start off asking if he knew what their infection rate was. His reply was they didn’t have a problem (not what I asked). So, I changed tactics and asked how many implants does his group do a year - about one a week. Did they have any infections last year - we had two, we flushed one with antibiotics and that cleared and one we had to remove the device and leads, oh, we had another but that cleared on it’s own so you can see we took care of everything and no device infection problems here. In my head I’m thinking 4% infection rate, oh wait now you’re telling me it’s 6% - yeah, small numbers but that’s way over the average of 1.5% so maybe you should review your practices.

And then a third doctor doing EP tests eating a bagel and a cupcake while standing over the patient….

Yeah, definitely frustrating

Wife was an RN. They had nicknames for doctors, based on their post-op rates.

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ckkatz  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:45:41am

A few more data points…

In areas where factory farms (ie ‘plantations’) were economically viable, the factory farm owners took over all richest land.

Further, they also forced the local economy into a support economy for their activities ad goals.

Economically, service providers, such as doctors, lawyers, journalists, and shopkeepers had to cater to their needs first.

Raw power wise, the factory farm owners could hire and maintain overseers and others who often were used to intimidate dissenters. One reason women were so prominent in the abolition movement is that males were beaten up or simply murdered so often. It was still often a step too far to do that to females in those days.

Needless to say, the small farmers who were pushed aside formed their own “Free Soil” movement and got significant support in areas where factory farming did not control everything.

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sagehen  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:47:44am

Russian ice-dancing team came in 2nd with “You Can Leave Your Hat On”

Youtube Video

The Americans won rhythm dance event with a Janet Jackson medley

Youtube Video

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:49:27am

re: #165 lawhawk

The Court’s FedSoc wing decided there wasn’t enough time to act using the VRA to stop the Alabama legislature from disenfranchising blacks of their right to vote. Roberts made this possible when he overturned preclearance in Shelby.

re: #270 Hecuba’s daughter

i think i read that this is not ‘permanent’.
the map will be used this cycle while the underlying case still goes forward.
still, not great…

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Decatur Deb  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:51:41am

re: #277 ckkatz

A few more data points…

In areas where factory farms (ie ‘plantations’) were economically viable, the factory farm owners took over all richest land.

Further, they also forced the local economy into a support economy for their activities ad goals.

Economically, service providers, such as doctors, lawyers, journalists, and shopkeepers had to cater to their needs first.

Raw power wise, the factory farm owners could hire and maintain overseers and others who often were used to intimidate dissenters. One reason women were so prominent in the abolition movement is that males were beaten up or simply murdered so often. It was still often a step too far to do that to females in those days.

Needless to say, the small farmers who were pushed aside formed their own “Free Soil” movement and got significant support in areas where factory farming did not control everything.

For perspective, in the peak year of slavery there were 2,341 farms holding 100 or more slaves. Of those, 22 farms had more than 500. The largest count of owners, 79,000, held 1 slave.
faculty.weber.edu

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mmmirele  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:52:47am

re: #52 mmmirele

Well that was quick. (Twitter suspends account for fake transgender documentary.)

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Captain Magic  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:55:17am
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lawhawk  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:57:28am
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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:57:50am

re: #280 Decatur Deb

For perspective, in the peak year of slavery there were 2,341 farms holding 100 or more slaves. Of those, 22 farms had more than 500. The largest count of owners, 79,000, held 1 slave.
faculty.weber.edu

“Neighbor, we have to stick together. I know you’ve only got one slave, but if you stick with me, and fight those no-nothing Northerners, you can eventually get a plantation as big as mine.”

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Jay C  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:59:12am

Wordle 234 5/6

⬜🟨🟩🟨⬜
⬜🟩🟩⬜🟩
⬜🟩🟩⬜🟩
⬜🟩🟩⬜🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

I see I was not alone today in having the same problem with the game: I went “Wow! Nearly got it!” after the second guess, then belatedly realized how many common words there were with that combination.
Oh well. Still undefeated….

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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:59:21am

re: #283 lawhawk

Can I touch the stolen loot?

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:59:40am

re: #267 Punish Domestic Terrorists

That would be two different people, I think.

I realized that just as I posted it.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 8, 2022 • 8:59:53am

re: #284 Belafon

“Neighbor, we have to stick together. I know you’ve only got one slave, but if you stick with me, and fight those no-nothing Northerners, you can eventually get a plantation as big as mine.”

“In the meanwhile, my 350 makes me exempt from conscription, so I’ll watch over yours, and your wife.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:03:10am
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dat_said  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:04:16am

re: #276 Decatur Deb

Wife was an RN. They had nicknames for doctors, based on their post-op rates.

The company has several medical advisory boards, most of which are physician exclusive. There is one, the HealthCare Professionals, which consists of mainly nursing trained professionals and that is the only one where I get consistently good feedback on new potential solutions. Ask a doctor about a particular work flow and you get a narrow myopic view. Ask a health care professional and it’s a wide angle lens view with detail. They know what goes on before prep, pre surgery test, prep, surgery, post op, recovery what hallways a patient gets wheeled down, everything. A doctor knows where to cut and when to look at the machines that beep.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:07:39am

re: #249 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I understand the need for imported labor. but indentured servants are being paid and are not the property of the landowner. that was never enough: they needed to force people to do the hardest work

By definition, indentured servants are people who work for a fixed length of time without pay. And they don’t get to choose their work.

Fun fact: during the time when indentured servants and slaves were both employed, the death rate among the former was higher. The one would be free to go when the indentures were done, but the slave was there forever, thus more valuable and meriting better treatment.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:09:18am

re: #250 Belafon

As long as you’re treating farms as factories.

Yes, to get the plantations to super-scale, the owners would need to act more like managers than laborers. Which would be fine, if they were paying the laborers. But, as Wendell said, they were too cheap to pay the labor force what they would need to do, and they didn’t want to do the work on the farm.

I’m pretty sure a lot of farmers would scoff at the idea that they do the same type of work as a factory manager.

Farms have changed even more than factories since then.

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gocart mozart  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:09:28am

Youtube Video

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Mattand  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:13:02am

re: #285 Jay C

Wordle 234 5/6

⬜🟨🟩🟨⬜
⬜🟩🟩⬜🟩
⬜🟩🟩⬜🟩
⬜🟩🟩⬜🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

I see I was not alone today in having the same problem with the game: I went “Wow! Nearly got it!” after the second guess, then belatedly realized how many common words there were with that combination.
Oh well. Still undefeated….

I’m playing across two different browsers, so I’m not sure the exact count, but I’m like 10W, 2L. I have a good starting word that I figured out, so that seems to be helping.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:13:19am

re: #290 dat_said

The company has several medical advisory boards, most of which are physician exclusive. There is one, the HealthCare Professionals, which consists of mainly nursing trained professionals and that is the only one where I get consistently good feedback on new potential solutions. Ask a doctor about a particular work flow and you get a narrow myopic view. Ask a health care professional and it’s a wide angle lens view with detail. They know what goes on before prep, pre surgery test, prep, surgery, post op, recovery what hallways a patient gets wheeled down, everything. A doctor knows where to cut and when to look at the machines that beep.

Certainly the case the two times my wife gave birth. The doctor came in, delivered the baby, and left (fortunately, smooth in both cases). The nurses ran the show.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:18:07am

re: #222 No Malarkey!

If abortion being made illegal in half the country this summer doesn’t get the young people to the polls in November, I don’t know what will.

The states outlawing abortion are the same states that make it difficult to vote

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:20:37am

re: #256 Mattand

Thing is, it’s really not true — or true only from the invention of the cotton gin to the civil war. The north was overtaking the south in every way by the time the war approached.

And whether slavery was a necessary part of the flourishing US economy (note I’m not saying that it did not provide that boost in the early US) is not certain either. Slave labor is not as efficient as free labor because there’s nothing in it for the slave. If the south had employed free labor after the revolution, would they have been less prosperous? There’s no way to go back and test, but in other places and times, free labor has beaten servile labor.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:23:49am

Wordle 234 5/6

⬜⬜🟩🟨🟩
⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜🟩🟩⬜🟩
⬜🟩🟩⬜🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Mattand  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:27:41am

re: #297 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Thing is, it’s really not true — or true only from the invention of the cotton gin to the civil war. The north was overtaking the south in every way by the time the war approached.

And whether slavery was a necessary part of the flourishing US economy (note I’m saying that it did not provide that boost in the early US) is not certain either. Slave labor is not as efficient as free labor because there’s nothing in it for the slave. If the south had employed free labor after the revolution, would they have been less prosperous? There’s no way to go back and test, but in other places and times, free labor has beaten servile labor.

A country who relies on even a single slave being forced to work under threat of torture and death as a contribution to its economy should be ashamed of itself, even if it has all the cotton gins in the world.

You seem like a decent person and I’ve always enjoyed your commentary, but this really isn’t the hill you should pick to die on.

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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:31:25am

re: #297 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Thing is, it’s really not true — or true only from the invention of the cotton gin to the civil war. The north was overtaking the south in every way by the time the war approached.

And whether slavery was a necessary part of the flourishing US economy (note I’m saying that it did not provide that boost in the early US) is not certain either. Slave labor is not as efficient as free labor because there’s nothing in it for the slave. If the south had employed free labor after the revolution, would they have been less prosperous? There’s no way to go back and test, but in other places and times, free labor has beaten servile labor.

But it was more profitable.

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BeachDem  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:35:24am

How to shorten a headline:

Nikki Haley’s Clueless New Trump Defense Trashed On Twitter

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:35:39am

re: #284 Belafon

“Neighbor, we have to stick together. I know you’ve only got one slave, but if you stick with me, and fight those no-nothing Northerners, you can eventually get a plantation as big as mine.”

Another fun fact: the number of southerners who fought for the union is greater than the number who fought for the Confederacy (yes, that includes the escaped slaves).

And another: plantation owners were exempt from military service.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:45:11am

re: #299 Mattand

A country who relies on even a single slave being forced to work under threat of torture and death as a contribution to its economy should be ashamed of itself, even if it has all the cotton gins in the world.

You seem like a decent person and I’ve always enjoyed your commentary, but this really isn’t the hill you should pick to die on.

You have not and will not hear me defend slavery. Getting the facts straight is a hill I’m prepared to die on. (Also keeping things in context — if your “one slave” rule is applied to world history, every tribe, association and nation of all time is in the same morally reprehensible boat.)

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darthstar  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:46:05am

re: #301 BeachDem

How to shorten a headline:

Nikki Haley’s Clueless New Trump Defense Trashed On Twitter

She still thinks she can be the next Melania?

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sagehen  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:46:43am

re: #280 Decatur Deb

For perspective, in the peak year of slavery there were 2,341 farms holding 100 or more slaves. Of those, 22 farms had more than 500. The largest count of owners, 79,000, held 1 slave.
faculty.weber.edu

the purchase price of a slave, inflation-adjusted, is approximately the price today of a mid-range car. It makes sense that most would only have one.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:47:56am

re: #300 Belafon

But it was more profitable.

Huh? The more prosperous economy is by definition the more profitable. The profits would probably be more spread out (or maybe not — see the Gilded Age or our own current period).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:48:51am

re: #302 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

And another: plantation owners were exempt from military service.

Just like all the Vietnam deferments rich kids were able to get.

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:49:21am

If one is claiming slavery made the economy boom, it did not. The boom came from technological advances. Slaves and the poor did not benefit so much. If you look

The business owners in the north and plantation owners in the south got most of the GDP and the slaves and poor got most of the per capita.

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darthstar  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:50:01am

Why didn’t souvenir shops carry this when I was a kid?

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:50:21am

This is what happens when you use Google Image Search to find pictures to use in your ad.

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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:51:43am

re: #306 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Huh? The more prosperous economy is by definition the more profitable. The profits would probably be more spread out (or maybe not — see the Gilded Age or our own current period).

Owning slaves was more profitable than not owning them even if it wasn’t an efficient use of labor. Not paying for labor, if you can make them put more in that it takes you to manage them, is profitable.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:52:33am

re: #310 The Pie Overlord!

This is what happens when you use Google Image Search to find pictures to use in your ad.

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“Chasidim — the broadway musical.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:53:21am

re: #312 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

“Chasidim — the broadway musical.”

The Bottle Dancers from Fiddler on the Roof.

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sagehen  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:55:46am

re: #307 Eclectic Cyborg

Just like all the Vietnam deferments rich kids were able to get.

when my brothers were in high school, “what to do if they’re drafted” was dinner-table conversation almost every day.

As it turned out, they came of draft age the year we didn’t call up anyone, so none of our contingency plans needed to be invoked, but we had MANY. This was such a relief we didn’t even have to pay attention to what was their lottery number.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 8, 2022 • 9:55:52am

re: #300 Belafon

But it was more profitable.

I’ve had this…discussion…with libertarians, too. They refuse to acknowledge that free labor is more profitable, even with the disparity of efficiency.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:00:28am

re: #304 darthstar

She still thinks she can be the next Melania?

That’s…Disgusting. (shudder)

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:02:06am

re: #311 Belafon

Owning slaves was more profitable than not owning them even if it wasn’t an efficient use of labor. Not paying for labor, if you can make them put more in that it takes you to manage them, is profitable.

Don’t forget, you still have to feed and house them well enough that they remain healthy enough to work. Add to that the built-in inefficiency of slave labor (“so what’s in it for me?”) and the difference may not be so great. Gilded Age industrialists amassed enormous fortunes too.

I know there were a few southerners who tried other “models” than the standard plantation slavery, it would be interesting to find out how they worked out.

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steve_davis  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:02:55am

re: #183 steve_davis

In South Carolina? Fuuuuuck. Always got to fight that one kid who wants to write the process essay on how to dress the deer. Imagine if Pennsylvania’s love of deer season smoked crack off tin foil for a couple months. That’s South Carolina. Cops literally arrest dozens every year for shooting at a mechanical deer they set up, which causes passerby to unload from their vehicles. Hey, those rear window gun mounts aren’t for decoration.

the feral hogs reproduce even faster than the feral neighbors.

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jaunte  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:03:18am
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Belafon  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:05:36am

re: #319 jaunte

“It wasn’t the bullet that killed your daughter, it was her refusal to keep the blood inside her body that did it.”

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sagehen  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:06:10am

re: #317 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Don’t forget, you still have to feed and house them well enough that they remain healthy enough to work. Add to that the built-in inefficiency of slave labor (“so what’s in it for me?”) and the difference may not be so great. Gilded Age industrialists amassed enormous fortunes too.

I know there were a few southerners who tried other “models” than the standard plantation slavery, it would be interesting to find out how they worked out.

No need to wonder; just look at tenant farmers. A big part of KKK activities in the 1920s and 1930s was to prevent the tenants from either organizing or fleeing north.

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darthstar  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:06:17am

re: #318 steve_davis

the feral hogs reproduce even faster than the feral neighbors.

That’s a good thing.

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Jay C  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:08:33am

re: #305 sagehen

the purchase price of a slave, inflation-adjusted, is approximately the price today of a mid-range car. It makes sense that most would only have one.

Also, if a slave woman had a child, it was - legally - also her owner’s “property” so there was some sort of appreciation of “value” there: not to mention that slaves were also often inherited, or giftable, like any other chattel.

ISTR that that was Ulysses Grant’s case: his wife was the daughter of a Missouri slaveholder who had given a slave to the newlyweds as a wedding present (as well as help with setting up their own farm - the slave was a farmhand): whom Grant freed ( much to his father-in-law’s annoyance) practically as soon as he could file the paperwork.

I also recall from reading Grant’s bio, that it was something of an embarrassment during the Civil War: Julia Grant had owned, I think, three slaves (domestic servants), and had been somewhat reluctant to have to free them when her husband got his well-deserved (and quite public) promotions.

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steve_davis  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:08:39am

re: #249 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I understand the need for imported labor. but indentured servants are being paid and are not the property of the landowner. that was never enough: they needed to force people to do the hardest work

Indentured servants were effectively slaves for seven years, as I understand it. They basically were working off the debt incurred by having some coyote hook them up with sea transport over here.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:09:15am

re: #321 sagehen

No need to wonder; just look at tenant farmers. A big part of KKK activities in the 1920s and 1930s was to prevent the tenants from either organizing or fleeing north.

I’d still rather see a side-by-side comparison, if such were available.

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:10:40am

re: #283 lawhawk

[Embedded content]
DOJ says it has recovered a whopping $3.6 billion worth of crypto.

can we see it?

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:11:31am

re: #286 Belafon

Can I touch the stolen loot?

oh gmta!

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jaunte  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:11:32am

re: #326 Dangerman

They spread it out on a table but it was just one tiny flash drive.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:12:39am

re: #326 Dangerman

can we see it?

It is right next to their beanie baby collection.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:13:56am

re: #311 Belafon

Owning slaves was more profitable than not owning them even if it wasn’t an efficient use of labor. Not paying for labor, if you can make them put more in that it takes you to manage them, is profitable.

Also slaves were themselves capital that an owner could sell and borrow money on, who created more wealth for their owners by giving birth, regardless of how efficient their labor was. And I have doubts about how efficient Irish immigrants would be working in a cotton field in Alabama in the summer.

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darthstar  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:14:17am

re: #326 Dangerman

can we see it?

How do you launder something that doesn’t exist? Also, can’t they just delete it?

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jaunte  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:15:05am

“In 2005, [Sandy Berger] was fined and sentenced to two years of probation plus community service for unauthorized removal of classified material from the National Archives.”
en.wikipedia.org

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darthstar  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:15:09am

re: #329 Shropshire Slasher

It is right next to their beanie baby collection.

Beanie babies have value…give one to a puppy and you get sparkly poop in a day.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:17:51am

re: #315 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I’ve had this…discussion…with libertarians, too. They refuse to acknowledge that free labor is more profitable, even with the disparity of efficiency.

Does that include the WT Sherman surcharge?

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darthstar  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:18:16am

re: #332 jaunte

[Embedded content]

“In 2005, [Sandy Berger] was fined and sentenced to two years of probation plus community service for unauthorized removal of classified material from the National Archives.”
en.wikipedia.org

I can see Trump doing community service. Walking along the road in a yellow vest with a plastic bag and a gripper in the other hand picking up trash. You could make bank selling tickets to that.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:27:31am

re: #280 Decatur Deb

For perspective, in the peak year of slavery there were 2,341 farms holding 100 or more slaves. Of those, 22 farms had more than 500. The largest count of owners, 79,000, held 1 slave.
faculty.weber.edu

In pre-mechanization farming buying a slave would be somewhat similar to investing in a combine or other piece of machinery, or work livestock like a horse or ox, to simply help out with the labor.

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ckkatz  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:28:34am

re: #280 Decatur Deb

For perspective, in the peak year of slavery there were 2,341 farms holding 100 or more slaves. Of those, 22 farms had more than 500. The largest count of owners, 79,000, held 1 slave.
faculty.weber.edu

Very true.

It would be interesting to see the amount of land, by quality, each group held.

In Virginia, those top tier slave owners quickly became known as the “First Families of Virginia”. Many of their last names are well known from the American Revolution. (Why pay ‘pizzo’ (protection) to the King of England when you can keep it yourselves.)

I remember reading a note in a book on secession that mentioned Western Virginia (west of the Blue Ridge Mountains) was more populous than Eastern Virginia due to the plantation economy in Eastern Virginia. That Western Virginia became West Virginia, btw.

And yes, as noted, The Confederate States instituted the 20 slave rule later in the Civil War. Owners of 20 or more slaves were exempt from the draft. The official concern was to prevent a slave revolt.

Not mentioned is that there were a lot of local, state and Confederacy-level quasi-military positions that exempted the holder from the draft. The rich wormed into those as well.

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IngisKahn  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:28:43am

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darthstar  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:29:52am

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mmmirele  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:32:23am

re: #324 steve_davis

Indentured servants were effectively slaves for seven years, as I understand it. They basically were working off the debt incurred by having some coyote hook them up with sea transport over here.

My seventh(?) great-grandfather, Francis Dollarhide (no, no the person in “Red Dragon”,) was an indentured servant. However, this is believed to be a dodge to hide the money he was bringing with him to Maryland. Once he was freed from his indenture, he set himself as a tobacco planter. Given the SHEER DIFFICULTY of searching out a name similar to that of a notorious book/movie villain, I do not know if he owned slaves. Let’s just say I wouldn’t be surprised if he did, however.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:33:39am

The Wordle of Tomorrow. Where’s my flying car?

Wordle 235 3/6*

⬛⬛⬛⬛🟨
🟨🟨🟨⬛🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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ckkatz  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:34:46am

re: #336 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

In pre-mechanization farming buying a slave would be somewhat similar to investing in a combine or other piece of machinery, or work livestock like a horse or ox, to simply help out with the labor.

And in sugar plantations, the expected useful life was much lower than in other agricultural endeavors. This fact was known, not only to the investors and owners, but also to the participants. Which is why there was a lot more violence in the sugar plantation economy. And may explain why European governments got out of the business (or sold it off to others).

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:37:19am

re: #337 ckkatz

The residents of to-become-West-Virginia were also very annoyed that the Tidewater Aristocracy refused to reallocate representation in the Virginia legislature based on the actual population distribution after 1840.

So they were being disenfranchised by the same people and families who one generation earlier (give or take) took such great pride in the rights of man and separating from England due to not being allowed representation (among other reasons).

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darthstar  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:38:05am

So StrongMind, based on what I’m seeing on their website, is a source for home school curriculum, and it was the relation with odious Charlie Kirk that finally got them to stop and say, ‘Whoa fuck no!’

Course list

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:39:14am

re: #338 IngisKahn

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darthstar  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:40:14am

re: #344 darthstar

So StrongMind, based on what I’m seeing on their website, is a source for home school curriculum, and it was the relation with odious Charlie Kirk that finally got them to stop and say, ‘Whoa fuck no!’

Course list

This is great:

But a key subcontractor saw matters differently. The firm selected to help prepare curriculum was Freedom Learning Group, an education company run by military spouses and veterans. Its chief executive, Elizabeth O’Brien, told The Post in a text message last week, “When advised that the ultimate client was Turning Point USA, we notified the curriculum developer that we are terminating the contract.”

Creamer informed Turning Point USA of the setback the same day, effectively dissolving the partnership by making clear that StrongMind no longer had the capacity to help start the academy, according to a person familiar with the conversation.

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IngisKahn  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:40:29am

re: #344 darthstar

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:42:00am

Darwin award candidate dies trying to learn to ride a motorcycle while several levels up a parking garage with expected consequences. The headline and beginning of the article are misleading, but they get around to saying what was actually happening toward the end of the article.

ktla.com

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darthstar  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:42:31am

re: #347 IngisKahn

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ckkatz  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:44:31am

re: #324 steve_davis

One of the books I read on the Mohawk River (New York State) campaigns of the Seven Years and American Revolutionary War period discussed that a bit.

According to that book,
- The ship captain or his investors would advance the cost of transportation to the port plus profit,
- Then local folks would come to the ship and offer to pay off the ship captain or investors,
- There were two common ways to do this.
1. The local would negotiate a contract with the indentured servant and upon agreement, would pay off the captain.
2. The contracts would be standardized and offered for sale at a public event.

- It was one thing if the transportee was a single young male, or more rarely, a single young female. It was more of a problem when entire families were brought over for indentured servitude. Often they would be separated.

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darthstar  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:47:12am

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:47:38am

re: #348 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Darwin award candidate dies trying to learn to ride a motorcycle while several levels up a parking garage with expected consequences. The headline and beginning of the article are misleading, but they get around to saying what was actually happening toward the end of the article.

ktla.com

If the motorcycle dont get ya the covid will

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:54:09am

It really is a special kind of stupid to learn to ride a motorcycle in a PARKING GARAGE.

Holy hell.

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Dangerman  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:54:13am
Former White House aide Omarosa Manigault Newman told MSNBC that former President Donald Trump “loved to tear up those documents” and even ate them.

Said Newman: “After Michael Cohen left the office and I walked in to the Oval, Donald — in my view — was chewing what he had just torn up.”

She added: “It was very bizarre because he is a germophobe he never puts paper in his mouth.”

What’sa few germs compared to a trip to the slammer?

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ckkatz  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:57:45am

re: #196 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Amazing how things have changed in the intervening 50 years. Particularly when one realizes that countries like France and England had a stable mutual hate going on for centuries.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 8, 2022 • 10:57:56am

Amazon Fresh doesn’t seem to have a mechanism to tell them that they delivered someone else’s groceries to you. I gave up when working my way through the options.
I suppose it doesn’t matter since they’d have to toss the stuff anyway.

Someone is missing a lot of burrito tortillas and some dog dental treats. Those missing tortillas will have wrecked their meal plan for the week.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:03:09am

re: #351 darthstar

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Obviously, a lot of factors go in to a divorce and post-divorce relationships. They could have realized they were meant to be friends, not married, whatever. But, you can treat your ex-wife respectfully, set a good example, etc., without cooking your ex-wife breakfast on her birthday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:06:53am

The Kept and the Killed

Of the 270,000 photographs commissioned by the US Farm Security Administration to document the Great Depression, more than a third were “killed”. Erica X Eisen examines the history behind this hole-punched archive and the unknowable void at its center.

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William Lewis  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:07:11am

Early winter morning, early winter light…

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sagehen  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:12:15am

re: #357 Mike Lamb

Obviously, a lot of factors go in to a divorce and post-divorce relationships. They could have realized they were meant to be friends, not married, whatever. But, you can treat your ex-wife respectfully, set a good example, etc., without cooking your ex-wife breakfast on her birthday.

if it was my ex, a cinnamon roll from a good bakery would be sufficient. Or if it was an exceptionally friendly divorce, maybe an everything bagel.

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IngisKahn  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:12:31am

re: #353 Eclectic Cyborg

It really is a special kind of stupid to learn to ride a motorcycle in a PARKING GARAGE.

Holy hell.

I’ve seen enough learners zoom off into the bushes to confirm that.

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steve_davis  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:14:51am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Kept and the Killed

with modern technology, at least some of those killed photos could be recovered. for landscapes, for instance, just clone into the voided area. Obviously, there’d need to be some pretty clear indication that a shot had been retouched, but for many, I don’t think cloning some landscape into a hole in the middle of a landscape would be a mortal sin.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:14:57am

re: #361 IngisKahn

I’ve seen enough learners zoom off into the bushes to confirm that.

My boss wanted to take my bike for a ride about 15 years ago. He took off straight toward the building, and got it under control at the last moment.

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William Lewis  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:16:13am

re: #362 steve_davis

with modern technology, at least some of those killed photos could be recovered. for landscapes, for instance, just clone into the voided area. Obviously, there’d need to be some pretty clear indication that a shot had been retouched, but for many, I don’t think cloning some landscape into a hole in the middle of a landscape would be a mortal sin.

Print them as for a book about the dangers of vandalizing public records?

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A Cranky One  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:16:41am
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Mattand  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:19:54am

re: #303 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

You have not and will not hear me defend slavery. Getting the facts straight is a hill I’m prepared to die on. (Also keeping things in context — if your “one slave” rule is applied to world history, every tribe, association and nation of all time is in the same morally reprehensible boat.)

Yeah, unfortunately, it’s not coming off that way.

As for the “one slave” rule: no other country in world history has proclaimed how it is the shining paragon of freedom that the US has.

No other country has been as self-important about how only they’ve gotten freedom right, while openly allowing the slave trade to continue for fucking decades after the rest of the world walked away from it.

We are supposed to be the fucking gold standard for freedom, but when our reliance and promotion of slavery comes up, it’s either “LA LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU” or “Well, as you can see from this meticulous 238 slide Cato Institute PowerPoint deck, the cost ratio balance of the Confederate GDP clearly shows that slavery was merely 2% less than expected contributions.”

I’m sorry, but doing shit like ‘debunking’ slavery’s financial impact is the tiny opening every fucking right wing troll needs to say “Eh, slavery wasn’t that bad.”

YMMV.

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ckkatz  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:31:25am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Kept and the Killed

Really cool to see this!

The article about how photographs were treated in the 1930s and 1940s versus today was quite interesting.

It seems to me that data, and the means to communicate and use it were much limited back then. And I suspect that pictures of subsistence and marginal farmers were considered nothing new or informative in those days.

It sounds like Stryker’s newspaper mindset of informing current day users of something new and informative was not able to also consider the idea of recording the era for posterity. Very much a business rather than governmental mindset.

The photographer, Carl Mydans, was local to the DC region. A lot of his pictures were of the Beltsville, Maryland USDA Research Farms just north of DC along US 1 in Prince Georges County, Maryland.

The photo, and a lot of his other ones are labelled “Prince Georges County, Maryland” and maybe from that location.

In his time, the area was isolated and rural. (Even into the 1980’s there were private farms.) It is now pretty much all suburban except for US Govt installations.

Thanks for posting!

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Mike Lamb  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:33:26am

re: #365 A Cranky One

In that dog’s brain, he’s saving that guy from drowning.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:34:36am

re: #366 Mattand

You won’t hear me proclaiming American exceptionalism either.

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A Mom Anon  Feb 8, 2022 • 11:36:40am

re: #366 Mattand

I’m just trying to understand why the 1619 Project is full of bad info. I thought it was the result of a lot of extensive research.

We also have a legacy in North America of what happened in the Indian Residential Schools. It’s sort of being addressed, but that has also left behind generational trauma, more than we are willing to realize as a country. Going to pretty much any of the remaining reservations reveals a lot of neglect and not giving a shit about “those people”.Some of these places weren’t closed down until the 1970s through the early 90s. We’re learning more about what happened and to what extent, but that is only because of the tireless work of native peoples doing the research and making it public.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 8, 2022 • 12:02:40pm

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Kept and the Killed

There is an old photo saying: “The difference between a good photographer and a great photographer is the size of their garbage can.” The writer of the article is an art historian, but she doesn’t show much understanding of how a photo essay makes it to publication. All or most of the punctured photos are well-killed.

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William Lewis  Feb 8, 2022 • 12:19:12pm

re: #371 Decatur Deb

There is an old photo saying: “The difference between a good photographer and a great photographer is the size of their garbage can.” The writer of the article is an art historian, but she doesn’t show much understanding of how a photo essay makes it to publication. All or most of the punctured photos are well-killed.

There is a huge difference between editing and destroying. For example, the contact sheet from Diane Arbus “Boy with a toy grenade” shows all the alternate takes that were rejected for the one that became the famous print:

Should the rest of the negatives had a hole punched in them? That’s what I think is the real sin here.


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