I have to admit I still enjoy seeing press briefings that don’t consist of non-stop lies and gaslighting and dumbassery, even though there’s still plenty of dumbassery from the press corps — especially from the clowns of Fox News and other right wing propaganda outlets.
From previous thread: re: #480 No Malarkey!
Its one thing if Zelenskyy voluntarily makes such concessions, but if he were going to do that, he would do it now to prevent more bloodshed and destruction. There is no way he will grant official recognition to the dismemberment of his country once the Russian army is disintegrating. I am sure that Biden will not pressure Zelenskyy to surrender Ukrainian sovereignty. First, Biden has character, and second, appeasing a dictator at the expense of a heroic ally is extremely bad optics; it would provoke a storm of outrage. I would bet my bottom dollar there will be no NATO pressure on Zelenskyy to grant official territorial concessions to Russia to end the war.
re: #1 No Malarkey!
From previous thread:
people are protesting the war in Moscow and St. Pete. Putin is running out of supplies. Since we are not losing troops we have no reason to pressure Zelinsky. Also losers don’t get to dictate terms.
re: #2 I Would Prefer Not To
people are protesting the war in Moscow and St. Pete. Putin is running out of supplies. Since we are not losing troops we have no reason to pressure Zelinsky. Also losers don’t get to dictate terms.
100% agree.
So I’m playing “extreme worst case scenario” thinker here.
If Putin absolutely lost his fucking marbles and dropped a nuke on Kiev, would that pretty much guarantee someone responds with a retaliatory strike and levels Moscow?
re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg
So I’m playing “extreme worst case scenario” thinker here.
If Putin absolutely lost his fucking marbles and dropped a nuke on Kiev, would that pretty much guarantee someone responds with a retaliatory strike and levels Moscow?
No, because that would lead to further retaliatory strikes, and who is willing to sacrifice London, or Paris, or D.C. for Kyiv?
Looks like the ruble skyrocketed back up to 0.0071 from after an initial loss of .0019 from .0084 to .0065. Bummer.
re: #6 darthstar
Looks like the ruble skyrocketed back up to 0.0071 from after an initial loss of .0019 from .0084 to .0065. Bummer.
Dead cat bounce.
The defense has rested without presenting any witnesses in the first criminal trial of a January 6 terrorist.
The jury is brought back in, and Welch officially declares that the defense rests (no witnesses). Friedrich reminds the jury that the defense has no obligation to put on a case and that the burden of proof rests with the government. Instructions time.
— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) March 7, 2022
re: #5 No Malarkey!
No, because that would lead to further retaliatory strikes, and who is willing to sacrifice London, or Paris, or D.C. for Kyiv?
That was the other likely outcome I had come up with.
re: #8 No Malarkey!
The defense has rested without presenting any witnesses in the first criminal trial of a January 6 terrorist.
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re: #1 No Malarkey!
From previous thread:
I think it’s a bit optimistic still to believe that Putin will not push for some face-saving measure(s). If the options before him as “take your toys and go home” and “pound Ukraine until it submits,” then he’s likely to pick the latter and damn the consequences. Really, if he called in Tu-160s and leveled Kyiv with tens of thousands of pounds of dumb bombs, what is the rest of the world prepared to do to stop him?
re: #12 Targetpractice
I think it’s a bit optimistic still to believe that Putin will not push for some face-saving measure(s). If the options before him as “take your toys and go home” and “pound Ukraine until it submits,” then he’s likely to pick the latter and damn the consequences. Really, if he called in Tu-160s and leveled Kyiv with tens of thousands of pounds of dumb bombs, what is the rest of the world prepared to do to stop him?
Everything they can think of short of going to war with Russia. Of course Putin is going to push for face saving measures. But Biden isn’t going to push Zelenskyy to officially recognize the dismemberment of his country. If Zelenskyy chooses to do so to stop the death and destruction, it will be up to him.
re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg
So I’m playing “extreme worst case scenario” thinker here.
If Putin absolutely lost his fucking marbles and dropped a nuke on Kiev, would that pretty much guarantee someone responds with a retaliatory strike and levels Moscow?
Yes. We would do that. A capital for a capital.
re: #12 Targetpractice
I think it’s a bit optimistic still to believe that Putin will not push for some face-saving measure(s). If the options before him as “take your toys and go home” and “pound Ukraine until it submits,” then he’s likely to pick the latter and damn the consequences. Really, if he called in Tu-160s and leveled Kyiv with tens of thousands of pounds of dumb bombs, what is the rest of the world prepared to do to stop him?
I would hope we are doing operations to communicate that when this is over there will be trials for war crimes. Not every Russian soldier is willing to go to jail for Putin.
If it was acceptable to buy oil from Russia before the war, why the fuck would it be unacceptable to buy oil from Venezuela or Iran?
“Is the supply of oil so important that it’s acceptable to cut deals in some cases with countries that may have engaged in unsavory actions in the past?” pic.twitter.com/BCAhja5bIe
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 7, 2022
If you’re not on that list right now, you’re doing something wrong. 🧐
— Jo 🌻 (@JoJoFromJerz) March 7, 2022
re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg
So I’m playing “extreme worst case scenario” thinker here.
If Putin absolutely lost his fucking marbles and dropped a nuke on Kiev, would that pretty much guarantee someone responds with a retaliatory strike and levels Moscow?
Plot twist: Missile fails due to age and explodes over Russia? It was one of the concerns raised in that alleged FSB analyst document…
re: #14 steve_davis
Yes. We would do that. A capital for a capital.
So which American city are you ready to sacrifice in order to nuke Moscow. Washington? New York? Chicago?
Just love that we’re not using this crisis as a moment to get away from oil and all the authoritarianism and misery and destruction it causes, and not even taking the briefest of seconds to acknowledge our refusal to do it already got us here in the first place.
— Jared Yates Sexton (@JYSexton) March 7, 2022
re: #17 Patricia Kayden
Weird, but it seems that Putin has just recognized Taiwan as an independent country.
/credit to Jeff Fecke.
Extending the Agriculture Department’s authority to extend the waivers, which expires in June, had been previously seen as fairly noncontroversial, even bipartisan.
— Helena Bottemiller Evich (@hbottemiller) March 7, 2022
SNA is scrambling to put pressure on McConnell to back down. The group’s Kentucky association and throngs of school leaders in the state have been trying to apply direct pressure, arguing that there is bipartisan support for extending the waivers.
— Helena Bottemiller Evich (@hbottemiller) March 7, 2022
Discovery should be fun. https://t.co/bbFhJvrh6W
— thomas rayosun long 🛹 (@ACoupleOkooks) March 7, 2022
re: #19 Teukka
Plot twist: Missile fails due to age and explodes over Russia? It was one of the concerns raised in that alleged FSB analyst document…
Yup…that’s *got* to be a concern after the series of maintenance failures we’re seeing in Ukraine.
I don’t know who thought this lawsuit was a good idea.
The more it stays in the news, the more Texans learn about how Greg Abbott helped his donors steal billions of dollars from us though rigging the utility markets. https://t.co/HLZYBrDAjS— Alex Wild (@Myrmecos) March 7, 2022
Pickled cucumbers are getting a bad rap!
https://t.co/yRM5P88bGr found the woman who knocked down a Russian drone with a jar of pickled tomatoes. She wants to set the record straight: those were NOT picked cucumbers. The gist of her story is in this thread 1/https://t.co/13txRgttLt
— Katya Gorchinskaya (@kgorchinskaya) March 7, 2022
“Z is the official international sign for “shall be confiscated by next available farmer”.” Pass this along!
And yeah, they’re not just in the Russian Fed…
@kamilkazani today on German Autobahn between Bremen and Hamburg … pic.twitter.com/I8sJEdsT1g
— Raphael Brinkert (@RaphaelBrinkert) March 6, 2022
re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg
So I’m playing “extreme worst case scenario” thinker here.
If Putin absolutely lost his fucking marbles and dropped a nuke on Kiev, would that pretty much guarantee someone responds with a retaliatory strike and levels Moscow?
You don’t send nukes in ones and twos.
“We will shoot you like rabid dogs.”
Here is the full video of Ukraine’s women-warriors’ address to Russians. I am so proud. pic.twitter.com/EOzS9YlU9W
— Nika Melkozerova (@NikaMelkozerova) March 7, 2022
re: #29 Teukka
“Z is the official international sign for “shall be confiscated by next available farmer”.” Pass this along!
And yeah, they’re not just in the Russian Fed…
Could also be an international sign for “Punch me in the face.”
We’re having air combat over Kyiv now.
Two Russian aircraft have been downed over the city, the military says.— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) March 7, 2022
re: #22 jaunte
People talk about it constantly. “Getting away from oil” is not a short term thing. Renewables require storage which doesn’t exist at the moment, Nuclear plants can take years to license and bring online. Short term people need oil and gas to, you know, heat their homes and go to work.
Hello my friends from all over. Somehow my cat talked me into my own account. @TheManksy for her stuff. Here for photography, unbridled opinions and some entertaining links. (I hope) pic.twitter.com/QLMorwUgJx
— Subway Redline (@SubwayRiderGuy) March 7, 2022
For a sovereign, wise Ukraine pic.twitter.com/a2TXZHmouw
— Subway Redline (@SubwayRiderGuy) March 7, 2022
re: #35 danarchy
Oh I know. Since May two wells have been grinding away 24-7 about 2,000 feet away from me.
Putin is fast realizing that trying to take over Ukraine isn’t as easy as it was for him to take over the Republican Party.
— VoteVets (@votevets) March 7, 2022
re: #36 Rightwingconspirator
If the Z was behind the red “No” symbol, I’d know what that means, but with it in front of the symbol, I do not.
re: #39 Punish Domestic Terrorists
If the Z was behind the red “No” symbol, I’d know what that means, but with it in front of the symbol, I do not.
It means someone forgot to send to front in the image editor.
re: #20 No Malarkey!
So which American city are you ready to sacrifice in order to nuke Moscow. Washington? New York? Chicago?
We already sacrificed Kiev. That’s the point of the hypothetical. What would you suggest as an alternative? A sternly worded letter? A subcommittee at the UN to look into the matter?
re: #35 danarchy
People talk about it constantly. “Getting away from oil” is not a short term thing. Renewables require storage which doesn’t exist at the moment, Nuclear plants can take years to license and bring online. Short term people need oil and gas to, you know, heat their homes and go to work.
Facts. Unfortunately, that won’t fit on a bumper sticker, so is often ignored in what passes for public discourse. And, we’re worse off for it.
Pentagon spox: They are having morale problems, they are having supply problems, they are having equipment problems, and we believe they are several days behind their expectations, but I cannot speak for what is going on inside Putin’s head.
re: #16 No Malarkey!
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maybe it puts even more pressure on russia, dumbass (not you)
“Is the supply of oil so important that it’s acceptable to cut deals in some cases with countries that may have engaged in unsavory actions in the past?” pic.twitter.com/BCAhja5bIe
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 7, 2022
Road sign in Odessa
Straight on: fuck off
Left: fuck off again
Right: fuck off to Russia pic.twitter.com/2c1dzKxno9— Shaun Walker (@shaunwalker7) March 7, 2022
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Somewhat bizarre to have endless messages in my mentions telling my this is photoshopped and “schooling” me in being able to recognise fakes. I took the photograph myself three hours ago. Here it is from further away. pic.twitter.com/VCmxwyCiYV
— Shaun Walker (@shaunwalker7) March 7, 2022
re: #41 steve_davis
We already sacrificed Kiev. That’s the point of the hypothetical. What would you suggest as an alternative? A sternly worded letter? A subcommittee at the UN to look into the matter?
Which isn’t an American city. In your worst case scenario, the only alternative that makes it even more horrible is starting a nuclear exchange between two nuclear powers. So I would suggest not doing that. If President Biden, in careful consultation with our allies, decided to retaliate with a nuclear weapon, it should be against a military target with as few civilians in the vicinity as possible. Its never appropriate to slaughter millions of innocent civilians and potentially end civilization in the process.
re: #24 No Malarkey!
You’ll never convince me Republicans don’t get off on being cruel to other people.
A GOP leadership aide laid out the case against extending waivers as an attempt to clamp down on government spending and get schools back to normal.“These were designed as ‘temporary’ Covid measures,” the aide said, noting that extending the waivers costs $11B https://t.co/DXtpGYPYYc
— Helena Bottemiller Evich (@hbottemiller) March 7, 2022
re: #45 ckkatz
Google translate says it says “To dew on the fuck,” which I think may be incorrect.
re: #43 darthstar
Pentagon spox: They are having morale problems, they are having supply problems, they are having equipment problems, and we believe they are several days behind their expectations, but I cannot speak for what is going on inside Putin’s head.
Updated for humor purposes:
They are having morale problems, they are having supply problems, they are having equipment problems, and we believe they are several days behind their expectations, but enough about the former President and his people. As to the situation with Russia right now…”
re: #45 ckkatz
Seen variations of that… straight on, Hague, turn right, Hague, and turn around… you might still reach the Hague.
Interesting thread on the military situation.
Some ideas on the state of the war in Ukraine two weeks in, where it might be headed, and why it remains an unwinnable war for Russia which the Russians would be best to end soon or they face an extraordinarily bleak future. And why this is a lesson on the stupidity of war.
— Phillips P. OBrien (@PhillipsPOBrien) March 7, 2022
More confirmation on MSNBC right now that Lukashenko got cold feet and there are no Belarusian fighters in Ukraine. - Ambassador McFaul Another guy - Barry McCaffrey, says as many as 60 Russian aircraft have been knocked out of the sky.
re: #47 No Malarkey!
Civilization isn’t all it’s made out to be.
re: #49 Punish Domestic Terrorists
Google translate says it says “To dew on the fuck,” which I think may be incorrect.
Yes, translation can make for some interesting results.
I read somewhere that at the conclusion of the Hitler and Germany signing ceremony for the 1939 pact to dismember Poland, one Russian officer toasted in German to “Eternal Fiendship”.
I presume that it was unintentional, even if remarkably prescient.
re: #47 No Malarkey!
Which isn’t an American city. In your worst case scenario, the only alternative that makes it even more horrible is starting a nuclear exchange between two nuclear powers. So I would suggest not doing that. If President Biden, in careful consultation with our allies, decided to retaliate with a nuclear weapon, it should be against a military target with as few civilians in the vicinity as possible. Its never appropriate to slaughter millions of innocent civilians and potentially end civilization in the process.
Does not matter. The West would have to take out an equivalent Russian city. Otherwise you’ve just greenlighted everybody with nuclear weapons or ambitions to get at least one free shot against an enemy. How would you feel as an American if 15 million Californians got vaporized by the Russians and the world’s preeminent western nuclear power, say France, was like, “okay, we need to send a message now. Let’s nuke a silo in the Ural Mountains.”
re: #53 darthstar
More confirmation on MSNBC right now that Lukashenko got cold feet and there are no Belarusian fighters in Ukraine. - Ambassador McFaul Another guy - Barry McCaffrey, says as many as 60 Russian aircraft have been knocked out of the sky.
I mostly know Barry from his Reefer-Madness-style lies about cannabis decades ago, so I have not been happy to see him dusted off and put on the TV news circuit.
re: #51 lawhawk
Seen variations of that… straight on, Hague, turn right, Hague, and turn around… you might still reach the Hague.
Yes!
I have also seen those.
In response to the Russian POW’s admitting they had no idea that they were in Ukraine; I was just thinking that much of the Russian leadership is just now beginning to realize where they are and just what road they are on.
re: #56 steve_davis
Does not matter. The West would have to take out an equivalent Russian city. Otherwise you’ve just greenlighted everybody with nuclear weapons or ambitions to get at least one free shot against an enemy. How would you feel as an American if 15 million Californians got vaporized by the Russians and the world’s preeminent western nuclear power, say France, was like, “okay, we need to send a message now. Let’s nuke a silo in the Ural Mountains.”
We would retaliate against the Russians, so there would be no need for France to do so.
re: #13 No Malarkey!
Everything they can think of short of going to war with Russia. Of course Putin is going to push for face saving measures. But Biden isn’t going to push Zelenskyy to officially recognize the dismemberment of his country. If Zelenskyy chooses to do so to stop the death and destruction, it will be up to him.
If Ukrainian forces were openly contesting the “republics” and Crimea, I could see a strong case being made for ordering the Russians out and the land restored to Ukraine proper. As is? Yeah, I don’t believe Moscow is going to accept that it not only lost the war to take the whole of the country, but that it must also abandon territory it’s held (and the West has allowed it to hold) since at least 2014.
Call me extreme, but the correct answer to each and every idea about a nuclear first strike of any size is NO.
re: #61 Rightwingconspirator
Same here. No nukes.
re: #61 Rightwingconspirator
Call me extreme, but the correct answer to each and every idea about a nuclear first strike of any size is NO.
I’m beginning to doubt your commitment to the right-wing conspiracy.
re: #16 No Malarkey!
If it was acceptable to buy oil from Russia before the war, why the fuck would it be unacceptable to buy oil from Venezuela or Iran?
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and yet the self-described “realist” conservatives can’t won’t add 2+2 to admit that shifting as much of our energy consumption as possible to home-grown renewables might save us from having to go through this same mishegas EVERY SINGLE TIME there’s a foreign policy question that has anything at all to do with countries that have fossil fuels.
“Florida’s controversial surgeon general announced Monday that the state is breaking with guidance from the CDC and will be the first state in the nation to recommend against giving the Covid-19 vaccines to kids ages 5 and older,” Politico reports.
this guy is a melonhead
and a ghoul
In the end, the Drake equation is all about us. Distant aliens? Who cares. Will we exist in 100 years? That’s more to the point.
re: #60 Targetpractice
If Ukrainian forces were openly contesting the “republics” and Crimea, I could see a strong case being made for ordering the Russians out and the land restored to Ukraine proper. As is? Yeah, I don’t believe Moscow is going to accept that it not only lost the war to take the whole of the country, but that it must also abandon territory it’s held (and the West has allowed it to hold) since at least 2014.
You misunderstand me. I’m not proposing that as terms to end the war that Russia be forced to hand Crimea over to Ukraine. I am saying that to end the war we will not force Ukraine to officially recognize Russian Sovereignty over Crimea, or recognize the separatist “republics.” I assume Zelenskyy would accept a ceasefire that requires Russia to withdraw the forces that invaded Ukraine on February 24, and that he would not extend the war to conduct a Ukrainian offensive into Crimea.
re: #24 No Malarkey!
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Stupid kids should have just stayed in the womb. Then at least the conservatives would ACT like they care about them.
re: #64 Punish Domestic Terrorists
I’m beginning to doubt your commitment to the right-wing conspiracy.
LOL I wonder what the new members think when they first run across my posts.
re: #31 Decatur Deb
You don’t send nukes in ones and twos.
upside — a nuclear winter would solve that pesky global warming situation. Also, if the population of the Earth were reduced for 40%…
re: #73 sagehen
That is a solution? It does not sound like one to me.
re: #35 danarchy
People talk about it constantly. “Getting away from oil” is not a short term thing. Renewables require storage which doesn’t exist at the moment, Nuclear plants can take years to license and bring online. Short term people need oil and gas to, you know, heat their homes and go to work.
I used to be a supporter of nuclear energy. Fukushima caused me to rethink; I was getting over my squeamishness, but now what Russia’s doing in Chernobyl and now Zaporizhzhia has revived all my worries. (and, uh… the melting-down plant in Fear the Walking Dead has had some effect on my thinking.)
re: #72 Rightwingconspirator
LOL I wonder what the new members think when they first run across my posts.
“Vast right wing conspiracy” is old, but it really was in place vs. the Clintons (and vs. every Democrat since then).
Truth telling by Democrats about Republicans is always punished by the mainstream media.
re: #70 No Malarkey!
You misunderstand me. I’m not proposing that as terms to end the war that Russia be forced to hand Crimea over to Ukraine. I am saying that to end the war we will not force Ukraine to officially recognize Russian Sovereignty over Crimea, or recognize the separatist “republics.” I assume Zelenskyy would accept a ceasefire that requires Russia to withdraw the forces that invaded Ukraine on February 24, and that he would not extend the war to conduct a Ukrainian offensive into Crimea.
I’m pretty sure Ukraine, as a lot of people do, considers the occupation of Crimea to be an occupation. Why would Ukraine want to let Russia stay there?
re: #74 PhillyPretzel
That is a solution? It does not sound like one to me.
Well a nuclear winter would certainly decrease temperatures for a while, and the resultant drop in population would reduce future co2 emissions. No one said it was a GOOD solution.
re: #17 Patricia Kayden
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re: #78 danarchy
That is a little bit like the situation I am in right now with getting signatures on my petition. A neighbor said he wants to help. I have made a call today to his phone and it just rang. I will call later about 5PM and see if I get an answer.
What I find interesting is how quickly this equipment is getting to the soldiers in the field and being successfully used. Clearly there was a lot of pre-planning and training before the invasion.
Also, the Russians are currently producing only a few aircraft and armored vehicles a month. Their losses in Ukraine, plus the usual wear and tear, are going to take years to replace.
New this morning: US and other NATO members have so far sent Ukraine 17,000 antitank missiles and 2,000 stinger anti-aircraft missiles, a senior US official tells me.
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) March 7, 2022
re: #75 sagehen
I used to be a supporter of nuclear energy. Fukushima caused me to rethink; I was getting over my squeamishness, but now what Russia’s going In Chernobyl and now Zaporizhzhia has revived all my worries. (and, uh… the melting-down plant in Fear the Walking Dead has had some effect on my thinking.)
It can be done well. “Done well” includes not giving the concrete contracts to the mob. Remains to be seen if it can be done well in a profit-making model.
re: #77 Belafon
I’m pretty sure Ukraine, as a lot of people do, considers the occupation of Crimea to be an occupation. Why would Ukraine want to let Russia stay there?
To stop the Russians from bombing their cities and killing a lot of innocent Ukrainians.
re: #74 PhillyPretzel
That is a solution? It does not sound like one to me.
So far, the neo-Malthusians haven’t come out of the woodwork on Twitter. Give them time. ///
re: #53 darthstar
More confirmation on MSNBC right now that Lukashenko got cold feet and there are no Belarusian fighters in Ukraine. - Ambassador McFaul Another guy - Barry McCaffrey, says as many as 60 Russian aircraft have been knocked out of the sky.
A couple more downed Russian aircraft and we may actually be approaching the Ruble cost of one Oligarch super-yacht…minus the Picasso and Monet painting on board, of course.
re: #46 Punish Domestic Terrorists
See the Original Art That Inspired the Grateful Dead’s Classic Logo (Rolling Stone)
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I watched the first 3 episodes of “A Long Strange Trip” on Amazon Prime last night. So far so good.
re: #59 No Malarkey!
We would retaliate against the Russians, so there would be no need for France to do so.
well, yes :-), I understand that. But that’s why in that hypothetical I made France the preeminent nuclear power. I’m trying to find a hypothetical that expresses why, as sad as it may be, there would have to be an equivalent response for the initial action. I think the problem I’m having with your hypothetical is that you’re treating Kiev like it doesn’t really exist. “Oh, well, 2 million Ukrainians just got vaporized, and the fallout is gonna effectively kill everybody in Kharkiv. But hey, not us!” (And yes, I realize I’m being very flippant, and that this is not the way you would posit it). In my hypohetical, I think we would be obligated to say, “if Russia can do that, and the world effectively takes no action, Russia will never again feel any compunction to operate under the rules of Mutually Assured Destruction, which will make them an even greater danger to the rest of us.”
re: #81 ckkatz
What I find interesting is how quickly this equipment is getting to the soldiers in the field and being successfully used. Clearly there was a lot of pre-planning and training before the invasion.
Also, the Russians are currently producing only a few aircraft and armored vehicles a month. Their losses in Ukraine, plus the usual wear and tear, are going to take years to replace.
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Wish that when they bring weapons in, they could take refugees out on the return trip. I suppose you can’t combine those two functions or the refugees are fair game to attack.
re: #75 sagehen
I used to be a supporter of nuclear energy. Fukushima caused me to rethink; I was getting over my squeamishness, but now what Russia’s going In Chernobyl and now Zaporizhzhia has revived all my worries. (and, uh… the melting-down plant in Fear the Walking Dead has had some effect on my thinking.)
I still support nuclear, the newest generation of reactors can be made relatively small and incredibly safe. They can use reprocessed fuel from older generation reactors eliminating a lot of the problems with waste. It is a pick your poison thing. Long term we need to move to renewables with grid storage, but that has its limits. There will always need to be some energy generation that can relatively quickly be taken on and off line for peak situations and we need a medium term solution until the grid can be upgraded and storage solutions can be implemented. That medium term is either gas and oil or nuclear.
re: #83 No Malarkey!
To stop the Russians from bombing their cities and killing a lot of innocent Ukrainians.
One possible concession, if Putin needs a fig-leaf, is to allow a UN-supervised plebiscite in Crimea. Wouldn’t give him anything else unless the civilian blood gets unbearably hideous.
re: #88 stpaulbear
Wish that when they bring weapons in, they could take refugees out on the return trip. I suppose you can’t combine those two functions or the refugees are fair game to attack.
That, and it would be a hell of lot harder to keep the supply lines secret.
re: #32 darthstar
We shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.
Winston Churchill June 1940
re: #87 steve_davis
well, yes :-), I understand that. But that’s why in that hypothetical I made France the preeminent nuclear power. I’m trying to find a hypothetical that expresses why, as sad as it may be, there would have to be an equivalent response for the initial action. I think the problem I’m having with your hypothetical is that you’re treating Kiev like it doesn’t really exist. “Oh, well, 2 million Ukrainians just got vaporized, and the fallout is gonna effectively kill everybody in Kharkiv. But hey, not us!” (And yes, I realize I’m being very flippant, and that this is not the way you would posit it). In my hypohetical, I think we would be obligated to say, “if Russia can do that, and the world effectively takes no action, Russia will never again feel any compunction to operate under the rules of Mutually Assured Destruction, which will make them an even greater danger to the rest of us.”
That is one theory. Another is that if we say to Russia, “look, we are going to nuke Moscow and murder millions of your people because you did it to Kyiv, but let’s stop it right there, OK?” We will get a big fat Nyet for an answer, then millions of Americans will die when they vaporize one of our cities, and so on and so forth until hundreds of millions of people are dead, and everyone else wishes they were. So in your worst case scenario in which Kyiv is nuked by an insane Putin, we maybe get the word out to Russians that they need to do something about him before everyone is dead, but we don’t murder millions of innocent people.
re: #87 steve_davis
If Russia nukes Kyiv, we don’t take out “one silo in the Urals.” We take out ALL the silos.
re: #88 stpaulbear
Wish that when they bring weapons in, they could take refugees out on the return trip. I suppose you can’t combine those two functions or the refugees are fair game to attack.
Refugees don’t seem to have a problem getting out. Last I heard, 1.5 million had already left Ukraine, so there have probably been tens or even hundreds of thousands more today.
re: #14 steve_davis
Yes. We would do that. A capital for a capital.
History is still on our side as the only country to use nuclear bombs in anger. Putin just sprinkles polonium around.
re: #88 stpaulbear
Wish that when they bring weapons in, they could take refugees out on the return trip. I suppose you can’t combine those two functions or the refugees are fair game to attack.
Yes it is a terrible tragedy.
According to this BBC article, 1.5 million Ukrainians have fled Ukraine in the past two weeks. That is a huge mass of people!
And yet, I am seeing estimates that the number of ‘displaced’ Ukrainians, both externally and internally could easily reach 20% of the entire population
How many refugees have fled Ukraine and where are they going?
bbc.com
re: #92 cat-tikvah
The UKR needs one more day to tie the Alamo resistance, which happened at almost the exact time of year. They have already far exceeded the Spartans at Thermopylae, but have a good way to go to match Masada.
re: #90 Decatur Deb
One possible concession, if Putin needs a fig-leaf, is to allow a UN-supervised plebiscite in Crimea. Wouldn’t give him anything else unless the civilian blood gets unbearably hideous.
I would save negotiations over the status of Crimea until after a ceasefire and withdrawal of the invasion force, to save innocent lives. I obviously don’t know what Zelenskyy’s bottom line to get a ceasefire is though.
re: #96 No Malarkey!
Refugees don’t seem to have a problem getting out. Last I heard, 1.5 million had already left Ukraine, so there have probably been tens or even hundreds of thousands more today.
GMTA!
Sorry, I didn’t see your post before I posted.
re: #65 Decatur Deb
I paid attention in flint-knapping class.
I was always much better at cat-napping. ;)
re: #101 ckkatz
GMTA!
Sorry, I didn’t see your post before I posted.
Happens all the time, no apology needed.
re: #100 No Malarkey!
I would save negotiations over the status of Crimea until after a ceasefire and withdrawal of the invasion force, to save innocent lives. I obviously don’t know what Zelenskyy’s bottom line to get a ceasefire is though.
After Putin craps out, they don’t have to give him shit.
re: #95 sagehen
If Russia nukes Kyiv, we don’t take out “one silo in the Urals.” We take out ALL the silos.
There’s a reason we’re not giving out Daisy Cutters and other MOABs. WMDs are incremental and cumulative…you don’t want to start down that path.
re: #82 Decatur Deb
It can be done well. “Done well” includes not giving the concrete contracts to the mob. Remains to be seen if it can be done well in a profit-making model.
Exactly. This is another subject where elevating the public discussion above posters and sound bites would be beneficial. We should be exploring what can be done to make it safer, and leave less problems to deal with as far as waste. If there are efficiencies to be had in these area’s by sacrificing potential profits, they need honest exploration. Even if it require tax dollars to get there.
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re: #99 Decatur Deb
The UKR needs one more day to tie the Alamo resistance, which happened at almost the exact time of year. They have already far exceeded the Spartans at Thermopylae, but have a good way to go to match Masada.
um…. do I need to remind you that at the Alamo, Thermopolye and Masada all the defenders DIED? Like… all of them. The admiring movies generations later doesn’t really make up for that.
Russia is upset someone violated its territory.
#Statement by the Embassy on the violation of its territory pic.twitter.com/AMCGKTzRsL
— Russia in Ireland (@Rus_Emb_Ireland) March 7, 2022
Our speculation on Russia using nukes seems a bit excessive, but, if he did, I think the reaction from the west would be to flatten his military with about half of everything we’ve got, move troops in and remove everything of Russia from Ukraine with extreme prejudice, and build a wall of armor on the Russian border that would lay waste to western part of Russia if a rabbit twitched in that area.
re: #108 darthstar
Russia is upset someone violated its territory.
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They want to GTFO of Ireland and go back to Russia? That’s one way they can assure their safety.
re: #107 sagehen
um…. do I need to remind you that at the Alamo, Thermopolye and Masada all the defenders DIED? Like… all of them. The admiring movies generations later doesn’t really make up for that.
Twelve days ago that looked like the best deal the Ukrainians were offered.
re: #108 darthstar
Russia is upset someone violated its territory.
Russia is either tone deaf, stupid, or is trolling the planet with that press release.
re: #108 darthstar
Russia is upset someone violated its territory.
They were going in after the Nazis.
#Ukraine: The Ukrainian Army hit another Russian supply convoy near #Kyiv, damaging/destroying a number of supply trucks, appears to be at least 6 that were likely hit. pic.twitter.com/MypX9IwZ40
— 🇺🇦 Ukraine Weapons Tracker (@UAWeapons) March 7, 2022
Heh…
Some time ago, one of the folks here posted a YouTube link for Elevator Muzak.
I finally got around to listening to it this afternoon. I am in a reverie of being back in the 1960’s and 1970’s when it was very popular as “Easy Listening”.
Thanks for posting that!
Funny the things that comprise our memories of times and places.
re: #95 sagehen
but then we start to run into the issue that was the basis of malarkey’s argument, which is that we want to respond, but we don’t want to kill civilians doing it. My position is that’s thoroughly impractical, but if we take out all the silos, then we’re effectively ending the world because there is no way Russia would watch hundreds of icbm’s coming over the arctic cap and think “gee, I wonder if they’re going to hit any cities?”
re: #26 coin operated
Yup…that’s *got* to be a concern after the series of maintenance failures we’re seeing in Ukraine.
A concern for everyone but Putin who thinks everything is in pristine condition because his generals, who he’d have killed if they dare say otherwise, would tell him exactly what he’d want to hear.
re: #108 darthstar
Russia is upset someone violated its territory.
I’d keep a lower profile if I represented the criminals in Moscow as they murder Ukrainians. In other words, Russian embassy, fuck off.
— Jeff Flanagan (@JeffMFlanagan) March 7, 2022
re: #116 darthstar
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and i think that’s a different one than the one I saw today on twitter where it looked like 7 or so fuel trucks in a convoy got taken out in an ambush.
re: #39 Punish Domestic Terrorists
If the Z was behind the red “No” symbol, I’d know what that means, but with it in front of the symbol, I do not.
A reference to Zeno’s Paradox perhaps?
re: #119 Eclectic Cyborg
Damn it, stole my line… I was gonna post that! ;)
From a respected Swedish journalist:
“The Polish military analysts OSW state that Ukraine has switched to continued resistance in certain areas, ie what we in Sweden call the free war, stay behind, resistance movement, or for that matter guerrilla war. But in Ukraine it is of course called partizani. At the same time, Putin’s National Guard, Rosgvardia, has begun clean-up operations to fight the partisans as occupiers. Incidentally, for up to ten years, Ukrainian partisans fought against the Soviet Union after World War II, something that is relatively unknown here in the West.”
I’m certain some of all the light AT and AA that is flooding into Ukraine will come to very good use in these fights.
re: #113 darthstar
Hey…has anybody seen a box of heads?
Where the heads went is a good question. So is where they came from.
re: #124 steve_davis
and i think that’s a different one than the one I saw today on twitter where it looked like 7 or so fuel trucks in a convoy got taken out in an ambush.
Good…The more fresh convoy disemboweling we see the better. Hopefully the conscripts all abandoned their vehicles and ran for cover after the first got hit. They’re victims too.
re: #118 ckkatz
Heh…
Some time ago, one of the folks here posted a YouTube link for Elevator Muzak.
I finally got around to listening to it this afternoon. I am in a reverie of being back in the 1960’s and 1970’s when it was very popular as “Easy Listening”.
Thanks for posting that!
Funny the things that comprise our memories of times and places.
if you go on youtube, if the page is still there, somebody uploaded about an hour and a half of the Kmart store music from 1974. It creeps me the hell out every time. It’s that orchestration where they run it through reverb, or something, to give it that creeps-me-the-fuck-out vibe.
Also , i dont think Putin will nuke Kiev, since its the birthplace of Russia. Lviv is more likely target since winds could carry the fallout into the EU.
re: #110 Dr. Matt
re: #108 darthstar
Russia is upset someone violated its territory.
TBF, on the face of it, vandalizing Embassies is not an activity that should be encouraged; and it sounds like the Russians in Dublin were as pissed about “…the presence of Garda officers, who stood idle” as they were about having their gate pulled down. Which is quite right and justified.
That said, “Fuck you, murdering Russky scum”….
re: #133 Jay C
TBF, on the face of it, vandalizing Embassies is not an activity that should be encouraged; and it sounds like the Russians in Dublin were as pissed about “…the presence of Garda officers, who stood idle” as they were about having their gate pulled down. Which is quite right and justified.
That said, “Fuck you, murdering Russky scum”….
What about throwing rolls of toilet paper over their gates?
re: #110 Dr. Matt
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2022 continues its zero fucks philosophy.
Most people who have a box of human heads stolen from them will not report the theft to the police. It goes even worse than reporting stolen heroin does.
Me: Can I get an op-ed?@nytopinion: Are you being cancelled?
Me: I mean, I wrote a book so no
NYTopinion: Is the book about being cancelled?
Me: No.
NYTopinion: Sir, this is the cancellation prevention hotline. Please move along— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) March 7, 2022
re: #116 darthstar
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The continued Russian problems with supplies reminds me of this ol’ comic:
re: #135 Punish Domestic Terrorists
Most people who have a box of human heads stolen from them will not report the theft to the police. It goes even worse than reporting stolen heroin does.
Even if you kept the receipts?
re: #20 No Malarkey!
So which American city are you ready to sacrifice in order to nuke Moscow. Washington? New York? Chicago?
You absolutely have to hit back. If you don’t, what’s to stop Putin from telling every other non nuclear country to surrender or he’ll nuke their capital? If Russia nukes a Ukrainian city, you drop multiple nukes on whatever city Putin is in to make sure you get him.
re: #132 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips
What am I going to do now with these 8 headless torsos I have in my garage?
8/25 Russian units commenced advancing out of their assembly areas in Crimea and the Donetsk region early during the invasion. While the Ukrainians fought well, there appears to have been a significant overmatch of Russian ground forces in the south. Map - @JominiW pic.twitter.com/bS0NyvSpEQ
— Major General (just retired!) Mick Ryan (@WarintheFuture) March 7, 2022
Having been diagnosed with EBV back in the early 1980s (via a blood test), I am fascinated by this article which completely upends everything I was told about EBV at the time.
The Puzzling Virus That Infects Almost Everyone
Statistically speaking, the virus known as Epstein-Barr is inside you right now. It is inside 95 percent of us. It spreads through saliva, so perhaps you first caught the virus as a baby from your mother, who caught it as a baby from her mother. Or you picked it up at day care. Or perhaps from a friend with whom you shared a Coke. Or the pretty girl you kissed at the party that cold New Year’s Eve.
If you caught the virus in this last scenario—as a teen or young adult—then Epstein-Barr may have triggered mono, or the “kissing disease,” in which a massive immune response against the pathogen causes weeks of sore throat, fever, and debilitating fatigue. For reasons poorly understood but not unique among viruses, Epstein-Barr virus, or EBV, hits harder the later you get it in life. If you first caught the virus as a baby or young child, as most people do, the initial infection was likely mild, if not asymptomatic. Unremarkable. And so this virus has managed to fly under the radar, despite infecting almost the entire globe. EBV is sometimes jokingly said to stand for “everybody’s virus.” Once inside the body, the virus hides inside your cells for the rest of your life, but it seems mostly benign.
Except, except. In the decades since its discovery by the virologists Anthony Epstein and Yvonne Barr in 1964, the virus has been linked not only to mono but also quite definitively to cancers in the head and neck, blood, and stomach. It’s also been linked, more controversially, to several autoimmune disorders. Recently, the link to one autoimmune disorder got a lot stronger: Two separate studies published this year make the case—convincingly, experts say—that Epstein-Barr virus is a cause of multiple sclerosis, in which the body mistakenly attacks the nervous system. “When you mentioned the virus and MS 20 years ago, people were like, Get lost … It was a very negative attitude,” says Alberto Ascherio, an epidemiologist at Harvard and a lead author of one of those studies, which used 20 years of blood samples to show that getting infected with EBV massively increases the risk of developing multiple sclerosis. The connection between virus and disease is hard to dismiss now. But how is it that EBV causes such a huge range of outcomes, from a barely noticeable infection to chronic, life-altering illness?
more in the article at the link.
I am seriously, oh…
re: #134 darthstar
What about throwing rolls of toilet paper over their gates?
Depends. Is it used or new?
re: #135 Punish Domestic Terrorists
Most people who have a box of human heads stolen from them will not report the theft to the police. It goes even worse than reporting stolen heroin does.
Nah, only thing worse is calling the cops to claim you got sold counterfeit drugs.
re: #140 JC1
You absolutely have to hit back. If you don’t, what’s to stop Putin from telling every other non nuclear country to surrender or he’ll nuke their capital? If Russia nukes a Ukrainian city, you drop multiple nukes on whatever city Putin is in to make sure you get him.
If you’re Ukranian and have nukes sure, but America isn’t going to nuke Russia and end our civilization for Ukraine.
re: #145 Targetpractice
Nah, only thing worse is calling the cops to claim you got sold counterfeit drugs.
Only if the cops sold you those counterfeit drugs.
re: #139 John Hughes
ckkatz, Captain Magic (Eric The Fruit Bat), PhillyPretzel, I’m disappointed in you.
re: #133 Jay C
TBF, on the face of it, vandalizing Embassies is not an activity that should be encouraged; and it sounds like the Russians in Dublin were as pissed about “…the presence of Garda officers, who stood idle” as they were about having their gate pulled down. Which is quite right and justified.
That said, “Fuck you, murdering Russky scum”….
re: #133 Jay C
TBF, on the face of it, vandalizing Embassies is not an activity that should be encouraged; and it sounds like the Russians in Dublin were as pissed about “…the presence of Garda officers, who stood idle” as they were about having their gate pulled down. Which is quite right and justified.
That said, “Fuck you, murdering Russky scum”….
Yeah, this was last week
“Russian embassy, go fuck yourself”
Ukraine: Slovenia’s consulate building in Kharkiv destroyed by Russian rocket attack
Russian army is pretty much stopped.
Interesting, Pentagon saying no ‘noteworthy’ progress for the Russian army in the last few days. What they are doing is using things that dont require movement—artillery, missiles and bombs. They are also the weapons that terrorize civilians. https://t.co/Xc7o0V12x8
— Phillips P. OBrien (@PhillipsPOBrien) March 7, 2022
Interesting…
2 B-52s circling over Romania, just hanging out, making their presence known.
Gorgon 11
Gorgon 12 pic.twitter.com/5tMKei0JN7— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) March 7, 2022
re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth
somebody is buying low…
more likely folks who were shorting rubles are taking profits.
re: #150 No Malarkey!
Russian army is pretty much stopped.
They seem to have given up on forcing the issue and so are stuck trying to break morale by shelling the population into capitulation.
re: #146 Punish Domestic Terrorists
If you’re Ukranian and have nukes sure, but America isn’t going to nuke Russia and end our civilization for Ukraine.
We sure as hell shouldn’t preemptively take the option off the table. The posture has to be that we hit back.
Shit…I was hoping for early March.
⚡️Morgan Stanley predicts a default of Russia in mid-April - Bloomberg
— Ragıp Soylu (@ragipsoylu) March 7, 2022
Quordle
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re: #159 PhillyPretzel
Sure we’ll get a better sense of that once the MOEX opens…if it *ever* opens.
re: #160 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
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re: #160 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
I screwed the pooch on today’s quordle.
re: #163 steve_davis
I’ve only done one quordle. I made it through but it was unbelievably stressful. Never again! :-)
I absolutely love it. It’s challenging and I enjoy it so much.
Watching the UN Security Council meeting now.
The UA ambassador just mentioned that the council meeting is like group therapy trying to talk sense to a member that is in need of mental health hygiene.
Good day.
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The Russian ambassador is now saying not me, you. You are the beast.
Also, RU is the one trying to get the humanitarian corridors open.
Really, what is the purpose of these meetings?
re: #166 Ming5000
Watching the UN Security Council meeting now.
The UA ambassador just mentioned that the council meeting is like group therapy trying to talk sense to a member that is in need of mental health hygiene.
re: #158 darthstar
Default will only hurt the creditors.
Russia is already squeezed out of most international markets.
Unless the Chinese are still willing to take Russian money, Putin is going to have a hard time buying anything in quantity.
re: #65 Decatur Deb
I paid attention in flint-knapping class.
How are you at synthesizing high blood pressure medication?
re: #173 John Hughes
How are you at synthesizing high blood pressure medication?
We’ll be going back to leeches for that.
re: #73 sagehen
upside — a nuclear winter would solve that pesky global warming situation. Also, if the population of the Earth were reduced for 40%…
And, of course it would be getting rid of the most expensive parts of the global population.
re: #172 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Default will only hurt the creditors.
Russia is already squeezed out of most international markets.
Unless the Chinese are still willing to take Russian money, Putin is going to have a hard time buying anything in quantity.
Russia will have to crash the oil market with dirt cheap oil as it’s nears default conditions. Oil and other important commodities are about to possibly get a lot cheaper later this year as Russia starts to sell everything down to the the kitchen sink to pay for this travesty of Military Incompetence by Vladimir Putin.
re: #172 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Default will only hurt the creditors.
Russia is already squeezed out of most international markets.
Unless the Chinese are still willing to take Russian money, Putin is going to have a hard time buying anything in quantity.
Aren’t the Chinese still trying to get the Russians onto their CIPS payment system? That is their alternative to the Swift payment system that the russians got blocked from as part of the sanctions. To me that indicates they are perfectly willing to take Russian money. Even if it costs them in the short run it could help their long term goals of challenging the US dollar as a reserve currency.
re: #164 darthstar
I screwed the pooch on today’s quordle.
Have you tried heardle? I’m horrible with music.
re: #142 The Ghost of a Flea
I’m curious about yours:
8/25 Russian units commenced advancing out of their assembly areas in Crimea and the Donetsk region early during the invasion. While the Ukrainians fought well, there appears to have been a significant overmatch of Russian ground forces in the south. Map - @JominiW pic.twitter.com/bS0NyvSpEQ
— Major General (just retired!) Mick Ryan (@WarintheFuture) March 7, 2022
vs #150 this:
Interesting, Pentagon saying no ‘noteworthy’ progress for the Russian army in the last few days. What they are doing is using things that dont require movement—artillery, missiles and bombs. They are also the weapons that terrorize civilians. https://t.co/Xc7o0V12x8
— Phillips P. OBrien (@PhillipsPOBrien) March 7, 2022
Because I doubt the DOD is only focused on one area.
re: #75 sagehen
; I was getting over my squeamishness, but now what Russia’s doing in Chernobyl and now Zaporizhzhia has revived all my worries.
Russia hasn’t actually “done” anything yet, they’ve threatened.
And “psycho lunatics might fuck shit up” is an argument against all infrastructure.
re: #177 danarchy
Aren’t the Chinese still trying to get the Russians onto their CIPS payment system? That is their alternative to the Swift payment system that the russians got blocked from as part of the sanctions. To me that indicates they are perfectly willing to take Russian money. Even if it costs them in the short run it could help their long term goals of challenging the US dollar as a reserve currency.
CIPS = China takes over Russia without firing a shot.
Sun-Tsu would be most pleased.
re: #176 Florida Panhandler
Russia will have to crash the oil market with dirt cheap oil as it’s nears default conditions. Oil and other important commodities are about to possibly get a lot cheaper later this year as Russia starts to sell everything down to the the kitchen sink to pay for this travesty of Military Incompetence by Vladimir Putin.
Russia needed 100 dollar/barrel oil to cover their costs and debts BEFORE they invaded Ukraine. Driving the price down with a dump in the market will only confuse Republicans who are busy blaming President Biden for the cost of gas.
re: #182 darthstar
Isn’t that cost close to what the Canadian Tar Sands need to break even?
re: #184 I Would Prefer Not To
That is a creative use of wine corks.
re: #49 Punish Domestic Terrorists
Google translate says it says “To dew on the fuck,” which I think may be incorrect.
The Ukranian word “роса” means dew, and “Росія” means Russia, so google translate mistook one for the other. (The less a language is used in the world, the less likely google translate is to be really reliable.)
A strong cold vortex will be over Ukraine later in the week. I hope the Russians forgot their winter uniforms.
☀️/❄️ Lente versus winter! Op veel plaatsen in Europa is het deze week zonnig en zacht, maar Oost-Europa duikt opnieuw de winter in. Zwaartepunt van de kou valt uitgerekend boven Oekraïne: daar kan het vanaf donderdag lokaal -15 tot -20° worden…
Animatie: WXcharts (T850 hPa) pic.twitter.com/ljBKRSEfc5— Wouter van Bernebeek (@StormchaserNL) March 7, 2022
re: #188 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
I have seen those.
This is like Putin saying giving aid to Ukraine might make him invade Ukraine. https://t.co/lNumXviJOx
— Kat 4 Obama (@Kat4Obama) March 7, 2022
lol
re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth
NEW: Republicans warn Justice Department probe of Trump would trigger political war
Which would be different from the last 10 years how?
re: #142 The Ghost of a Flea
re: #179 Belafon
In the south the Russians have been prevented from moving further west by the Pivdennyi Buh river.
The Ukrainians defense of Mykolaiv has been solid, so for days the Russians moved north looking to cross the Pivdennyi Buh river at Voznesensk & Oleksandrivka
Can’t get to Odessa without crossing the Pivdennyi Buh. And I think they’ve been holding that amphibious group off Odessa until they can get some unit there overland first. Not wanting to repeat the failures of their air assault landings around Kyiv in the initial days of the invasion
But, thats just my assessment
re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth
What political war would that be, Mr. Reporter Who Should Know Better?
The political war Republicans have been waging non-stop since 1994?
Echoes of the Bosnian Serb army which would routinely say similar as it shelled Sarajevo.
Russia’s UN ambassador just said Ukrainians are shelling themselves
— Samuel Ramani (@SamRamani2) March 7, 2022
re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth
Yeah, how dare we investigate the most corrupt President who ever lived?
/
re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth
lol
This is like Putin saying giving aid to Ukraine might make him invade Ukraine. https://t.co/lNumXviJOx
— Kat 4 Obama (@Kat4Obama) March 7, 2022
so are they saying he didnt do anything wrong
or
that no one should investigate that he did or what he did
re: #189 Sherlock Hound
A strong cold vortex will be over Ukraine later in the week. I hope the Russians forgot their winter uniforms.
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So General Winter has volunteered to fight for the Ukrainians this time round???
Members of the Serbian & Russian communities in Australia rally in support of Russian occupation forces in Ukraine. You can spot some Serbian military headgear (šajkača) too, plus a Greek & Assyrian flag. Red Australian ensign also popular among local “sovereign citizen” types. https://t.co/DtknLPqG8D
— Jasmin Mujanović (@JasminMuj) March 7, 2022
re: #204 Dangerman
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so are they saying he didnt do anything wrong
or
that no one should investigate that he did or what he did
Questions for Republicans threatening the DOJ:
1. Did you participate in illegal activity withTrump?
2. If not, why are you worried about him being prosecuted?
re: #208 darthstar
I never met it and I do not wish to meet it. I will be very happy if he gets hit with everything.
re: #204 Dangerman
so are they saying he didnt do anything wrong
or
that no one should investigate that he did or what he did
The second one, I think.
re: #205 Jay C
So General Winter has volunteered to fight for the Ukrainians this time round???
hard to know what side he’s on, really.
Russian General-major Vitaly Gerasimov, deputy commander of Russian 41st army, was liquidated near Kharkiv, Ukrainian Main Intelligence Directorate said. This is Russia’s second general KIA within the last 11 days. https://t.co/rWpuAHihdg
— Sergej Sumlenny (@sumlenny) March 7, 2022
If true, wouldn’t this be three Generals? 2 Russian (Vitaly Gerasimov and Andrei Sukhovetsky) and 1 Chechnyan (Magomed Tushayev)?
re: #206 electrotek
It’s less bizarro, looking at the Russian Empire’s foreign policy.
Russia has long seen itself as protector of the Christian minorities in the Ottoman Empire, especially the Eastern Christians (Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East, etc), who faced persecution, ethnic cleansing, and genocide at the hands of the Ottomans, just like Russia similarly performed ethnic cleansing and genocide against several Muslim groups in the European parts of Russia.
re: #210 Eclectic Cyborg
re: #204 Dangerman
so are they saying he didnt do anything wrong
or
that no one should investigate that he did or what he didThe second one, I think.
I agree: the announcement of any serious investigation Naaah, strike that: Trump’s been “investigated” out the yingyang, his misdeeds aren’t even all that hidden: I’m guessing the announcement of any actual move against TGF by Justice will be greeted with a Wall Of Wail by the GOP and the RW media squawking in well-oiled unison about the Hideous And Blatant Injustice Of It All: purse-mouthed mumping from the talking-heads about “criminalizing politics”, and, of course, vows to take revenge if and when they ever get their hands on the relevant agencies again.
re: #215 Jay C
I agree: the announcement of any serious
investigationNaaah, strike that: Trump’s been “investigated” out the yingyang, his misdeeds aren’t even all that hidden: I’m guessing the announcement of any actual move against TGF by Justice will be greeted with a Wall Of Wail by the GOP and the RW media squawking in well-oiled unison about the Hideous And Blatant Injustice Of It All: purse-mouthed mumping from the talking-heads about “criminalizing politics”, and, of course, vows to take revenge if and when they ever get their hands on the relevant agencies again.
you know they’ve already written these stories in anticipation
re: #215 Jay C
I agree: the announcement of any serious
investigationNaaah, strike that: Trump’s been “investigated” out the yingyang, his misdeeds aren’t even all that hidden: I’m guessing the announcement of any actual move against TGF by Justice will be greeted with a Wall Of Wail by the GOP and the RW media squawking in well-oiled unison about the Hideous And Blatant Injustice Of It All: purse-mouthed mumping from the talking-heads about “criminalizing politics”, and, of course, vows to take revenge if and when they ever get their hands on the relevant agencies again.
Fuck them all with rusty farm implements. All DC Republicans are crooks, and if I had my way, they would be arrested first, then the digging would begin to determine their crimes. Republican crooks in jail can’t cover up their crimes as effectively as Republican crooks who are stupidly allowed to remain free.
SCOTUS has rejected the GOP’s argument that legislatures are free to engage in illegal gerrymandering without state judicial interference, ensuring fair maps in N.C. and Pennsylvania.
In the North Carolina case, Alito dissents (joined by Thomas and Gorsuch). Kavanaugh writes a concurrence saying that the Republicans have raised serious arguments but that SCOTUS should resolve the issue on its regular merits docket, not the shadow docket.
— SCOTUSblog (@SCOTUSblog) March 7, 2022
re: #216 Dangerman
you know they’ve already written these stories in anticipation
And the mainstream media stands ready to amplify these false grievances. I really wonder if the NYT endorsed the Nazi “backstab legend” back in the day.
re: #213 dat_said
Remembering that everything has been carefully curated by Ukrainian Intelligence. Nonetheless, this, at least so far, seems likely accurate:
Jesus, Ukraine just killed Gen. Maj. Vitaly Gerassimov, chief of staff of the 41 Army. At Kharkiv.
Russia, if you’re listening: delete your army.— Christo Grozev (@christogrozev) March 7, 2022
This is not the worst part. In the phone call in which the FSB officer assigned to the 41st Army reports the death to his boss in Tula, he says they’ve lost all secure communications. Thus the phone call using a local sim card. Thus the intercept. pic.twitter.com/cgHHo7VaRi
— Christo Grozev (@christogrozev) March 7, 2022
Zoë Kravitz’s DC debut is long overdue, it seems. Though she’s currently making waves as Selina Kyle and her Catwoman alter ego in Matt Reeves’s The Batman, the actress says she was passed over for a role in 2012’s The Dark Knight Rises, the final installment in director Christopher Nolan’s Batman trilogy. Kravitz, who is biracial, tells the Observer she was turned down for an audition because she was considered to be too “urban.”
Zoë Kravitz was told she was too ‘urban’ to audition for ‘The Dark Knight Rises’ (Yahoo News)
re: #220 ckkatz
Remembering that everything has been carefully curated by Ukrainian Intelligence. Nonetheless, this, at least so far, seems likely accurate:
This invasion has been one of the biggest clusterfucks in the history of warfare. One would think that there will be very senior generals getting lined up against the wall soon.
Dang. Heavy weather is moving through PA and headed to Philly and eastern PA.
weather.gov
re: #218 No Malarkey!
SCOTUS has rejected the GOP’s argument that legislatures are free to engage in illegal gerrymandering without state judicial interference, ensuring fair maps in N.C. and Pennsylvania.
This one actually surprises me a little bit.
Looks like a few grifters have been having a not so good time:
Former Rand Paul Aide Charged With Funneling Russian Money Into Trump Election https://t.co/lBA11lFfkB
— Anne Nelson (@anelsona) March 7, 2022
🚨@sianushka and I do a deep dive into the London arrest of a former Fox News director, the first person charged with violating sanctions in response to Russia’s 2014 invasion.
The TV Exec, the Oligarch and the Global Far-Right—@BylineTimes https://t.co/RGKJnPgeuj— Heidi Cuda (@Heidi_Cuda) March 7, 2022
re: #224 Eclectic Cyborg
The D’s will now have the advantage in PA and that is why I will be running around trying to get signatures on my petition. I was supposed to have 3 weeks and now it is down to a few days.
More on Russian incompetence
The idiots tried to use the Era cryptophones in Kharkiv, after destroying many 3g cell towers and also replacing others with stingrays. Era needs 3g/4g to communicate.
The Russian army is equipped with secure phones that can’t work in areas where the Russian army operates.— Christo Grozev (@christogrozev) March 7, 2022
Can one of the terms of the peace treaty be sending Putin to Saint Helena?
re: #228 KGxvi
DT and Putin should both go to the White Tower. And they should be in the same cell.
re: #221 Punish Domestic Terrorists
‘cos you shold only cast “rural” characters in a quintessentially urban story.
Or am I being naive about there usage of the word “urban” here?
This ruling ensures the 2022 House map will be much less skewed towards Republicans than the current one (and perhaps not skewed towards Rs at all). https://t.co/7sJAw2rJT2
— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) March 7, 2022
Breaking news: GOP Rep. @robints has been indicted on federal charges of wire fraud in the Middle District of Tennessee. Story to follow.
— Holly McCall (@jhollymc) March 7, 2022
re: #230 John Hughes
‘cos you shold only cast “rural” characters in a quintessentially urban story.
Or am I being naive about there usage of the word “urban” here?
Code for Black or Latino from back when racists had to be slightly less openly racist.
re: #230 John Hughes
‘cos you shold only cast “rural” characters in a quintessentially urban story.
Or am I being naive about there usage of the word “urban” here?
“Urban” is what they use when they know they can’t say “prefers watermelon” or much stronger words.
Looks about right. pic.twitter.com/fLjde0PxiW
— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) March 7, 2022
re: #235 DodgerFan1988
It needs a few more of those letters.
re: #230 John Hughes
‘cos you shold only cast “rural” characters in a quintessentially urban story.
Or am I being naive about there usage of the word “urban” here?
It’s saying she’s too “black” for the role. Though probably the producers were thinking even worse words to themselves.
Balls of solid brass.
Zelenskiy with another video from his office in the heart of Kyiv.
Not many presidents would still be there and not in a bunker, on the 12th day of an invasion, with multiple intelligence reports of hit squads out to get him.
His resilience is proving hugely inspiring here. pic.twitter.com/RCa8dnf8jS— Shaun Walker (@shaunwalker7) March 7, 2022
re: #227 No Malarkey!
More on Russian incompetence
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Contrast that with the last paragraph of this:
“In less than a week, the United States and NATO have pushed more than 17,000 antitank weapons, including Javelin missiles, over the borders of Poland and Romania,”https://t.co/71av4yc4mh pic.twitter.com/ZALm7iEwHW
— Rob Lee (@RALee85) March 7, 2022
re: #230 John Hughes
‘cos you shold only cast “rural” characters in a quintessentially urban story.
Or am I being naive about there usage of the word “urban” here?
For radio, records, magazines… actually, pretty much any entertainment-related business — urban means Blackity Black Black Black.
re: #224 Eclectic Cyborg
This one actually surprises me a little bit.
Not me ( though I suppose any precedential decision by THIS hackish disgrace of a SCOTUS is cause for surprise), the basic argument in the GOP’s appeal of the redistricting cases rested on the *novel* doctrine that State Courts (up to and including the SC level) have (State Constitutionally notwithstanding) no authority to rule on Congressional redistricting plans. That basically (again ignoring purely “State” law), any districting plan a [GOP] Legislature comes up with MUST be implemented unaltered because reasons….
A step too far even for this SC…
re: #225 ckkatz
Looks like a few grifters have been having a not so good time:
Former Rand Paul Aide Charged With Funneling Russian Money Into Trump Election https://t.co/lBA11lFfkB
— Anne Nelson (@anelsona) March 7, 2022
This jackass had already been caught for campaign finance violations and had been pardoned by the failed former President, so it’s nice that they have more charges for him.
re: #238 No Malarkey!
Balls of solid brass.
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Spine, please.
The women of his country seem to be made of equally stern stuff.
re: #232 No Malarkey!
Lots of Deplorables
Second Republican in the last week to leave office following charges/indictment. https://t.co/OdrmPGbWhn
— BigEasyWizard (@BigEasyWizard) March 7, 2022
re: #242 Punish Domestic Terrorists
This jackass had already been caught for campaign finance violations and had been pardoned by the failed former President, so it’s nice that they have more charges for him.
On the subject of Republican criminals, it would be efficient to round up everyone who got a political pardon from Trump. Surely they have all committed new crimes not covered by their pardons by now.
re: #222 No Malarkey!
This invasion has been one of the biggest clusterfucks in the history of warfare. One would think that there will be very senior generals getting lined up against the wall soon.
If they’re not out of bullets. Or rifles.
re: #243 sagehen
Spine, please.
The women of his country seem to be made of equally stern stuff.
vaginas of solid brass…
re: #246 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!
If they’re not out of bullets. Or rifles.
Russia is a police state. The absolute last thing they will ever run out of is weapons and ammunition to use on people who are inconvenient to Putin.
They are kind of needed at home right now. https://t.co/qk7LMeZKPF
— aagcobb (@aagcobb1) March 8, 2022
re: #97 Captain Magic
History is still on our side as the only country to use nuclear bombs in anger. Putin just sprinkles polonium around.
When there were no other nuclear powers around and we had only 2 weapons. I shudder to think of what could happen today.
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Ukrainian Ambassador holds up a tweet from Lavrov and advises Russian diplomats that they can obtain assistance for mental help from the NHS by dialing 111 pic.twitter.com/bFoqyKYJ6Q
— Acyn (@Acyn) March 7, 2022
re: #250 Hecuba’s daughter
When there were no other nuclear powers around and we had only 2 weapons. I shudder to think of what could happen today.
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re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth
I saw that Lavrov and the Ukrainian Foreign Minister are going to be meeting in Turkey on Thursday. One hopes that we’ll see some movement by Russia as its fortunes continue to decline.
re: #114 Dr. Matt
Russia is either tone deaf, stupid, or is trolling the planet with that press release.
They think we are stupid — and they are probably not that wrong about a large percentage of our population, especially those who are Republicans.
re: #148 steve_davis
I deleted my original post because, on reflection, I thought it was to harsh.
But that arsehole decided to reply.
Why was I disappointed?
Because I was astounded that anybody could agree with Steve’s maximalist theory of nuclear deterrence — “anybody nukes anywhere and everybody will nuke back”.
This is nuts. It’s schoolyard boasting.
If Pakistan uses tactical nukes against an Indian tank attacks then the UK should nuke Islamabad? (Replace any and all countries/cities in this fantasy to taste).
Countries have nukes to deter attacks against *them*.
NATO aims to extend this “umbrella” to all member countries*, but has never stated that it will retaliate against attacks on third parties.
We don’t live in the world of Heinlein’s Space Cadet.
re: #233 Punish Domestic Terrorists
Code for Black or Latino from back when racists had to be slightly less openly racist.
Damned, did I forget the [sark] tags again?
re: #205 Jay C
So General Winter has volunteered to fight for the Ukrainians this time round???
We hope. Not so good for the displaced, sadly.
re: #248 EPR-radar
Russia is a police state. The absolute last thing they will ever run out of is weapons and ammunition to use on people who are inconvenient to Putin.
And they have the best, most powerful and well-supplied army in the world too.
re: #255 John Hughes
I deleted my original post because, on reflection, I thought it was to harsh.
But that arsehole decided to reply.
Why was I disappointed?
Because I was astounded that anybody could agree with Steve’s maximalist theory of nuclear deterrence — “anybody nukes anywhere and everybody will nuke back”.
This is nuts. It’s schoolyard boasting.
If Pakistan uses tactical nukes against an Indian tank attacks then the UK should nuke Islamabad? (Replace any and all countries/cities in this fantasy to taste).
Countries have nukes to deter attacks against *them*.
NATO aims to extend this “umbrella” to all member countries*, but has never stated that it will retaliate against attacks on third parties.
We don’t live in the world of Heinlein’s Space Cadet.
Putin nuking a city or two in Ukraine out of spite as his conventional war fails is the kind of thing that should be maximally deterred.
I would be most disappointed if back channel US and Western diplomacy weren’t already making it excruciatingly clear to Putin that any attempt by him to nuke his way out of his problems in Ukraine will not work for him.
re: #258 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!
And they have the best, most powerful and well-supplied army in the world too.
True, but who in a police state do you think gets eaten out by the termites of corruption first — the army or the secret police?
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