Brilliant New Song From Ben Folds: “Kristine From the 7th Grade” (Ben Folds With the National Symphony Orchestra | DECLASSIFIED)

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Kristine From The 7th Grade
Composed and Performed by Ben Folds
Arranged by Jherek Bischoff

Ben Folds premiered a new song with the National Symphony Orchestra on July 20, 2022 as part of the “Declassified: Ben Folds Presents” concert series at the John F Kennedy Center For The Performing Arts.

With the National Symphony Orchestra
Conducted by Enrico Lopez-Yañez

DECLASSIFIED®: Ben Folds Presents - In this concert series, NSO Artistic Advisor Ben Folds breaks down barriers between music genres. Folds selects the artists to showcase both classical and modern music arranged specifically for the National Symphony Orchestra.

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Lyrics:

Are you the same Kristine I knew from 7th grade?
Yeah, it’s definitely you, just with a new last name
Someone who laughed a lot is what I remember the most
But the face in your profile suggests maybe not so much anymore

‘Cause I got the emails these last two years every day
And I just don’t reply because I don’t really know what to say
Kristine from the 7th grade…

The anger, THE ALL CAPS, and all the pseudo-science
The misspellings… they must be on purpose – we went to a good school, Kristine!
So what would you imagine I might take from this deluge of memes?
The cryptic, dark bible quotes; guns and dead fetuses? Kristine, seriously… are you okay?

‘Cause this world can be wonderful, too
Do you ever see it that way, Kristine from the 7th grade?

There’s a break in the rain
A perfect time for a walk
The smell of wet leaves, and warm smiles, and hellos…
These things exist in the real world, you know?

Oh, what a shame, Kristine!
This disease that makes strangers of friends!
But if these days if it’s really usses and thems
I want you to take me off of both of those lists

‘Cause this world can be so wonderful, too
Do you ever see it that way?

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288 comments
1
gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2022 • 5:41:11pm

Report this nazi

2
Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2022 • 5:42:05pm
3
Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2022 • 5:42:46pm

Are you the same Kristine I knew from 7th grade?
Yeah, it’s definitely you, just with a new last name
Someone who laughed a lot is what I remember the most
But the face in your profile suggests maybe not so much anymore

‘Cause I got the emails these last two years every day
And I just don’t reply because I don’t really know what to say
Kristine from the 7th grade…

The anger, THE ALL CAPS, and all the pseudo-science
The misspellings… they must be on purpose - we went to a good school, Kristine!
So what would you imagine I might take from this deluge of memes?
The cryptic, dark bible quotes; guns and dead fetuses? Kristine, seriously… are you okay?

‘Cause this world can be wonderful, too
Do you ever see it that way, Kristine from the 7th grade?

There’s a break in the rain
A perfect time for a walk
The smell of wet leaves, and warm smiles, and hellos…
These things exist in the real world, you know?

Oh, what a shame, Kristine!
This disease that makes strangers of friends!
But if these days if it’s really usses and thems
I want you to take me off of both of those lists

‘Cause this world can be so wonderful, too
Do you ever see it that way?

4
Captain Ron  Oct 17, 2022 • 5:44:45pm

I’m pretty sure it’s the GOP keeping Covid going.

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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2022 • 5:47:11pm

Another asshole Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2022 • 5:47:45pm
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darthstar  Oct 17, 2022 • 5:49:05pm

Ukraine farmers - keeping mass transit working.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2022 • 5:53:15pm

re: #1 gocart mozart

Reported. That dude obviously needs to be banned from Twitter.

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retired cynic  Oct 17, 2022 • 5:54:33pm

When the Deep-Sea Snow Crab is the Canary in the Coalmine
Climate change is coming for your seafood buffet.
by Charlie Pierce
esquire.com

Overfishing is some of it, but most of it is that the waters off Alaska are too warm for the crabs. And a comment on the piece said that Walleye are in the same situation in Wisconsin: the waters are too warm for them, and despite the state stocking the lakes, the numbers are terrible. I love crab, and am sad there, but also sad for the walleye, which is also delicious. But they, and all nature, are telling us that we have pushed things too far.

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A Cranky One  Oct 17, 2022 • 5:56:38pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2022 • 5:57:54pm

re: #5 gocart mozart

Who let all these Charles Johnsons in here?

12
sagehen  Oct 17, 2022 • 5:58:12pm

re: #5 gocart mozart

Another asshole Charles Johnson

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did I not tell you the Dodgers are superior to the Giants in every single category? by every possible metric?

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retired cynic  Oct 17, 2022 • 6:04:35pm

re: #9 retired cynic

The next Pierce column is also about climate change (he is writing about that a lot more frequently these days!): the rivers running dry, specifically, the Colorado and Mississippi.

To Keep the Water in the Rivers, Biden’s Plan is All-American: Capitalism
Rivers are running low, and a new program aims to cut back on the number of straws sucking them dry.
esquire.com

The Colorado River is perhaps the country’s most important waterway. It is a big part of the reason why we have Arizona, Nevada, and California at all—why we don’t have an empty quarter between Des Moines and Los Angeles—and the Colorado is too damn close to being exhausted. The country’s largest reservoir, Lake Mead (created by dropping the Hoover Dam onto the Colorado), has dropped two inches a day since February, exposing all kinds of long-forgotten detritus—most recently, prehistoric volcanic ash. None of which can be poured into a glass to consume on a hot Nevada day. Try dropping prehistoric volcanic ash on your alfalfa field and see what grows.

Biden’s Interior Department is offering payments per acre/foot of water to those who do NOT draw that much on their allotment. May it work. Help.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 17, 2022 • 6:08:18pm

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2022 • 6:18:56pm
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Captain Ron  Oct 17, 2022 • 6:24:30pm
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HRH Stanley Sea  Oct 17, 2022 • 6:26:11pm

re: #12 sagehen

did I not tell you the Dodgers are superior to the Giants in every single category? by every possible metric?

Haha in Padre.

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BigPapa  Oct 17, 2022 • 6:27:13pm

Not sure if Dusty is here or there but this is my favorite ZZ Top track. Choice tasty notes and vibe.

I Need You Tonight (2008 Remaster)

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2022 • 6:48:43pm

The liar Chris Wray should be replaced.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Oct 17, 2022 • 6:49:34pm

Well, looky here:

Yep, it’s the real deal, DC himself.

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mmmirele  Oct 17, 2022 • 6:51:43pm

I’ve been on call since Saturday morning and basically nailed to the floor, so I ordered in a meal. Paid too much, but I needed something that was not me cooking. Anyway, the meal had bacon in it, little pieces of it, and my cat (a) smelled it (b) made it clear I needed to give her some and (c) nearly took my fingers off getting at it when I was giving her pieces. She would have taken all the bacon, but she’d also get sick so…nope.

At least the sinus headache I have had since Saturday is now slowly going away. Yeah, it started right before I went on call, but it wasn’t from stress.

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I *hate* being in the middle of this kind of crap.

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Captain Ron  Oct 17, 2022 • 6:55:02pm

re: #21 mmmirele

I fed a young cat tuna off my fingertip, once.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 17, 2022 • 6:56:49pm

re: #22 Captain Ron

I fed a young cat tuna off my fingertip, once.

You are made of meat as well. Just not as tasty meat as the tuna or bacon.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2022 • 6:56:51pm
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2022 • 6:57:45pm

Rounded stones, as if they spent some time in a stream bed. Or eons of frost, slowly chipping off their edges.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:01:10pm

For you military history buffs, did the different militaries/countries send weapons to Spain before WW2?

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The GOP is a racist terrorist organization  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:03:17pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:04:37pm

re: #26 Belafon

For you military history buffs, did the different militaries/countries send weapons to Spain before WW2?

Do you mean for the Spanish Civil War? If so, yes.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:06:35pm
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:06:37pm
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:07:58pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:12:25pm

This breaks my heart.

Paradise by John Prine

When I die let my ashes float down the Green River
Let my soul roll on up to the Rochester dam
I’ll be halfway to Heaven with Paradise waitin’
Just five miles away from wherever I am.

John died of covid, 7 April 2020, age 73.

In accordance with Prine’s wishes as expressed in his song “Paradise”, half of his ashes were spread in Kentucky’s Green River. The other half were buried next to his parents in Chicago

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:16:06pm
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Jay C  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:20:23pm

re: #26 Belafon

For you military history buffs, did the different militaries/countries send weapons to Spain before WW2?

Yes. During the Spanish Civil War, Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy supported Franco’s Nationalists with a great deal of materiel (and “volunteer” troops as well): the Soviet Union was likewise a big supplier to the Republican side.
But Britain, France (and, where it was relevant, the US) basically stayed on the sidelines in the name of “neutrality”.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:23:34pm

re: #34 Jay C

… (and, where it was relevant, the US) basically stayed on the sidelines in the name of “neutrality”.

Except for Rick, who fought in that war but became bitter and then left and opened a bar/nightclub in Casablanca.

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garzooma  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:25:29pm

re: #26 Belafon

For you military history buffs, did the different militaries/countries send weapons to Spain before WW2?

Picasso also has an answer.

Picasso painted Guernica at his home in Paris in response to the 26 April 1937 bombing of Guernica, a Basque Country town in northern Spain which was bombed by Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy at the request of the Spanish Nationalists.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:27:24pm

re: #26 Belafon

For you military history buffs, did the different militaries/countries send weapons to Spain before WW2?

Quite a bit. The US, UK and most other western nations enacted, and generally followed, an embargo against both sides. This benefited the fascists since they were able to get all the arms they could use from Italy and Germany. The Soviet Union, Mexico, and France were the only countries to openly supply the Republicans, with France dropping out and joining the embargo after a short while. The Republicans did make many attempts to circumvent the embargo, involving much intrigue and skulduggery, but were only partly successful.
List of Spanish Republican military equipment of the Spanish Civil War
At one point, a curious coalition of American arms exporters and left wing idealists lobbied to lift the embargo on the grounds that the enacting legislation, the Neutrality Act, applied only to international conflicts and not to civil wars. The Glenn Martin aircraft company, which had a paid order in hand from the Republicans for its B-10 bomber, was especially active in this effort. (American) Republicans predictably opposed this and countered that the participation of Italy and Germany made it an international conflict and the Neutrality Act therefore applied. The latter argument, cruel and facetious though it was, prevailed and the FBI spent much time and money tracking down attempts to supply American arms to Republican Spain.

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Dangerman  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:27:31pm

re: #14 A Mom Anon

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William Lewis  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:30:48pm

re: #26 Belafon

For you military history buffs, did the different militaries/countries send weapons to Spain before WW2?

Mainly just the Germans and the Russians. The British and other nations tried to keep out assistance to the Republicans because they feared a commie Spain.

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Teukka  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:31:34pm

re: #1 gocart mozart

Report this nazi

Done.

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EstebanTornado1963  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:33:52pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:34:48pm

re: #35 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Except for Rick, who fought in that war but became bitter and then left and opened a bar/nightclub in Casablanca.

There were a fair number of international volunteers that fought for both sides. Pretty much all the political bugaboos were in play in that time period in Europe. And there are a lot of divisive things going on in Spain itself. Regional animosities, the standard communism/socialism/republicism/fascism/monarchist schisms, and a good dollop of religious/anti-religious fervor as well.

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A Cranky One  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:40:18pm

My new hero.

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William Lewis  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:40:51pm

re: #42 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

There were a fair number of international volunteers that fought for both sides. Pretty much all the political bugaboos were in play in that time period in Europe. And there are a lot of divisive things going on in Spain itself. Regional animosities, the standard communism/socialism/republicism/fascism/monarchist schisms, and a good dollop of religious/anti-religious fervor as well.

The memorial to the Lincoln BDE in Madison, WI:

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:42:09pm

re: #43 A Cranky One

Empowerment against Evangelization: Countering Conversion Attempts by Asserting Moral Autonomy:
cstroop.com

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:44:44pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:48:04pm

One of the American aircraft that got past the embargo to serve in Republican Spain was the one and only Douglas DC-1, prototype of the famous Douglas DC series of commercial and military transports.

DC-1 in TWA markings, 1934

The DC-1 was a massive leap in technology when it first flew in 1933 and airlines eagerly placed orders to replace their Ford Trimotors and Curtiss Condor biplanes. Production versions, though, were slightly longer to carry 14 rather than 12 passengers and were designated DC-2.
The DC-1 itself stayed with Douglas until it was sold to the British Lord Forbes in 1938. Forbes then sold it, quite illegally, to the Spanish airline LAPE (Líneas Aéreas Postales Españolas) later the same year. LAPE operated it on behalf of the Spanish Republican air force. Unlike LAPE and many of its personnel, the plane survived the civil war and was passed on to Iberia Airlines in 1939. It was damaged beyond repair in a forced landing at Málaga in October 1940.

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:52:06pm

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

This breaks my heart.

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Video

John died of covid, 7 April 2020, age 73.

John Denver did a magnificent cover of Paradise on his 1972 album, Rocky Mountain High.


And daddy won’t you take me back to Muhlenberg County
Down by the Green River where Paradise lay
Well, I’m sorry, my son, but you’re too late in asking
Mister Peabody’s coal train has hauled it away

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A Cranky One  Oct 17, 2022 • 7:59:33pm

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2022 • 8:03:05pm
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A Cranky One  Oct 17, 2022 • 8:03:27pm

re: #45 jaunte

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2022 • 8:08:59pm

re: #43 A Cranky One

If you google it, the image is a different woman. The same story is published two different times, once in April, and again in September, at two different sites.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2022 • 8:11:32pm

Thanks for the answers. I feel like I knew it, but I’m in that tired but not quite sleepy state.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Oct 17, 2022 • 8:22:11pm

re: #48 sizzzzlerz

John Denver did a magnificent cover of Paradise on his 1972 album, Rocky Mountain High.

Yikes! John Denver would be 78 years old if he were still alive (born 31 December 1943).

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 17, 2022 • 8:30:15pm

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

This breaks my heart.

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2022 • 8:32:48pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Who let all these Charles Johnsons in here?

I’m Charles Johnson and so is my wife!

/

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 17, 2022 • 8:35:32pm

re: #56 Targetpractice

I’m Charles Johnson and so is my wife!

/

This ain’t Spartacus.

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A Cranky One  Oct 17, 2022 • 8:38:54pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2022 • 8:44:16pm

Mile 9,310 / km 14,896

hi

We’re home. We got home a few hours ago. On top of all the stuff we started our trip with, and all the stuff we bought along the way, we still managed to stuff some groceries in the car at the market on the way home.

The last round of photographs are from the final thrust into the Nebraska Panhandle, as we pushed through the Sandhills to our home.

WW2 Balloon Bomb historical marker

This is on NE-87, an extremely lonely highway which used to be a pasture trail until recently. (That part of the northeast Panhandle still has unpaved pasture trails to travel between towns.)

Nebraska Highway 87 looking south toward my home.

Nebraska welcome signs tell you this state is the home of Arbor Day. These are our two trees.

Carhenge

Carhenge, in Alliance, fifty miles from our home. All the years we’ve lived here and we’d never been to Carhenge before, so we took some time on the final lap to go. Carhenge is built to be a replica of Stonehenge in its current state, made of vintage cars stuck trunk-down into the sand.

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retired cynic  Oct 17, 2022 • 8:48:31pm

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Glad you are safely home. We were watching that blizzard up around Lake Superior.

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2022 • 8:49:43pm

re: #27 The GOP is a racist terrorist organization

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Well Jim, I offer the same advice to the folks in “Real America” that they’ve been offering me all my adult life: If you can’t afford to live the life you want, then you either need more money or to spend less.

Surely those folks in “Real America” got some luxuries they can give up to afford basic needs, right? They don’t need cable TV, they can read a book or pick up a hobby. Or stop eating out so much and cook more stuff at home, plenty of recipes to make it bulk for the whole week.

And if that’s still not enough, then you might have to go looking for a better job. Go back to school for a degree, go to trade school, pick up a skill, anything that will make you “attractive” to employers. Be willing to do whatever degrading, demoralizing work it takes to get more money.

And if that’s still not enough or there’s no good jobs where you live, then move to where the COL is lower or the jobs are better. Surely you got relatives in another state that will let you crash on their couch until you land that big job that will let you live the life you want.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2022 • 8:55:04pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2022 • 8:56:23pm

re: #8 Patricia Kayden

Reported. That dude obviously needs to be banned from Twitter.

He’s still there. It turns out Libertarians won’t ban anti-Semites (freeze peach, don’cha know). On top of that, there is a sewer of conservatives in that thread telling us exactly what conservatives really are.

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Captain Ron  Oct 17, 2022 • 8:57:32pm

YouTube

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2022 • 8:59:22pm

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Once Musk buys out Twitter, I’m gone. I can’t imagine the cesspool that it will become. Bigotry will be the norm. Hard pass.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2022 • 9:03:07pm

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

RE: Japanese balloon bombs:

“…The Military Geology Unit (MGU) of the U.S. Geological Survey was tasked with investigating the small handfuls of sand occasionally recovered from the various crash sites.
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Further detailed study of pre-war Japanese geologic studies allowed them to narrow the source area by 80%. They determined that the sand samples likely came from either of two locations: a northerly site along the great beach at Shiogama, close to Sentai, Japan; and/or the Ninety-nine League Beach at Ichinomiya, Japan.

The work of the MGU conclusively identified northeastern coastal Japan as the source area for the sand ballast, and the likely point of launching. Once these locations were revealed detailed photo reconnaissance were made of the areas in early 1945 and the photo interpreters succeeded in identifying two of the three plants producing hydrogen for the project in vicinity of Ichinomiya. These plants were conclusively destroyed by American B-29 bombers based in the Mariannas Islands in April 1945, putting an end to the vengeance bomb project.
web.mst.edu

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austin_blue  Oct 17, 2022 • 9:05:42pm

Well, I will be dipped in shit. You really can find anything on the Interwebs, Here’s a picture of my Da (in F4-D #110) leading a section of his squadron in the Mediteranneum in 1962 off the USS Independence.

It’s the fifth picture down.

airvectors.net

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 17, 2022 • 9:09:13pm

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The British did a “balloon bomb” thing as well from 1942-44. Less challenging than the Japanese project but cheap to implement as it turned out compared to the issues it caused the Germans.

en.wikipedia.org

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2022 • 9:11:33pm

re: #60 retired cynic

Glad you are safely home. We were watching that blizzard up around Lake Superior.

We ran into snow just outside Kenora (west of Thunder Bay). It would appear the blizzard hit one day after we left the area.

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Captain Ron  Oct 17, 2022 • 9:14:23pm

re: #70 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We ran into snow just outside Kenora (west of Thunder Bay). It would appear the blizzard hit one day after we left the area.

My aunt lived in Kenora. Forest, granite, water, bears, blueberries, saskatoons. I loved it there.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 17, 2022 • 9:31:54pm

re: #1 gocart mozart

Report this nazi

Reported. They are not even trying to hide it.

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 17, 2022 • 9:33:54pm

NASA has reported the astronaut Jim McDivitt has passed at the age of 93. McDivitt was on Gemini 4 and commanded Apollo 9. Later, he became the program manager for Apollo 12 through 16. He left NASA in 1972.

npr.org

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austin_blue  Oct 17, 2022 • 9:45:58pm

And here is, I think, my dad as the squadron commander of FMFA-314 (the Black Knights, made famous in Independence Day) in 1969.

Image: File:F-4B_VMFA-314_and_VMA-311_A-4E_over_Vietnam_1969.JPG

Well fuck, It’s the Marine Corps Colonel running MAG-13 flying my Da’s airplane for a photo op with a Scooter from another squadron from MAG-13.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2022 • 10:01:56pm
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Captain Ron  Oct 17, 2022 • 10:08:24pm

re: #75 jaunte

She’s so awesome. She should run for office.

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Captain Ron  Oct 17, 2022 • 10:09:16pm

Can we draft her?

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 17, 2022 • 10:09:59pm
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austin_blue  Oct 17, 2022 • 10:11:23pm

Well, that’s it for tonight. Sweet Dreams, all, be well and happy, have a lovely night.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2022 • 10:16:25pm

re: #67 jaunte

RE: Japanese balloon bombs:

This could be an episode of “Forensic Files” without the murder.

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darthstar  Oct 17, 2022 • 10:23:45pm

re: #20 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Well, looky here:

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Yep, it’s the real deal, DC himself.

I had an exchange with him the other day. He’s super active on Twitter. The Croz is great.

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darthstar  Oct 17, 2022 • 10:35:57pm

It really was a good feeling. Didn’t know it was live-streamed downtown.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 17, 2022 • 11:39:24pm

re: #72 I Would Prefer Not To

Reported. They are not even trying to hide it.

Nazi dude is still there. Good luck getting Twitter to kick him off.

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Captain Ron  Oct 17, 2022 • 11:41:34pm

re: #20 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

re: #81 darthstar

What’s with that big blank space?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 18, 2022 • 12:11:57am

re: #22 Captain Ron

I fed a young cat tuna off my fingertip, once.

Sounds fishy.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Oct 18, 2022 • 12:12:23am

re: #85 Captain Ron

What’s with that big blank space?

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A link to David Crosby’s twitter page. For some reason it won’t register here. None of the Twitter addresses will.

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Captain Ron  Oct 18, 2022 • 12:18:51am

re: #88 Barefoot Grin

Sounds fishy.

He didn’t stop at the tuna. Miniature panthers is what they are.

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Captain Ron  Oct 18, 2022 • 12:22:30am

If police could train panthers like police dogs, “Stop or I will release the panther” would carry some serious weight.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 18, 2022 • 1:21:55am

Your children under conservatism.

Texas school districts distribute student DNA kits in case of school shootings (Motherly, October 17, 2022)

The Texas Education Agency will give inkless in-home fingerprint and DNA identification cards to each public school system in Texas.

Texas school districts will be distributing DNA and fingerprint identification kits for students in grades K-8. These I.D. cards will be kept by parents and guardians who can give them to law enforcement in order to help potentially identify missing children. In the wake of the Uvalde shooting, this decision is making headlines across the state.

(more)

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Captain Ron  Oct 18, 2022 • 1:24:07am

re: #92 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Too much trouble to protect them. We’ll go to all this trouble to identify them when when they are dead ‘cause that’s easy.

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John Hughes  Oct 18, 2022 • 1:29:15am

re: #35 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Except for Rick, who fought in that war but became bitter and then left and opened a bar/nightclub in Casablanca.

And was known after the war as a “premature anti-facist”.

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John Hughes  Oct 18, 2022 • 1:32:58am

re: #37 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

The Soviet Union, Mexico, and France were the only countries to openly supply the Republicans, with France dropping out and joining the embargo after a short while.

That wonderful moment when the French Front Populaire decided that, in 1936, the most important thing to do was give people paid holidays rather than working to defeat fascism.

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TarHellion  Oct 18, 2022 • 1:36:06am

Took the par and feel pretty good about it. Early voting begins in NC on Thursday, however, only the last day of EV is set aside for a Saturday. Got the sample ballots for me and MrsTarH and should be fairly straightforward. Will not vote for a single GQPer, including the many who are unopposed in local races. Make it a good one, folks!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 18, 2022 • 1:45:20am

re: #96 TarHellion

Took the par and feel pretty good about it. Early voting begins in NC on Thursday, however, only the last day of EV is set aside for a Saturday. Got the sample ballots for me and MrsTarH and should be fairly straightforward. Will not vote for a single GQPer, including the many who are unopposed in local races. Make it a good one, folks!

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We’ll take a wheelbarrow down to the Post Office later today to pick up all our mail since the latter part of August. Our mail ballots may be in there someplace.

In the local village board election, we’ll find out if my election strategy of “I filed for office, now I’m going to fuque off to Canada for two and a half months and get back just in time for the election” worked. I know I should get at least one vote (me) and maybe another vote (my wife).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2022 • 1:45:49am

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

As I understand, the Japanese balloon bombs were causing massive damage to US forests, but they managed to keep a blackout on any news reporting on the extent, so the Japanese finally abandoned the project as it seemed ineffective.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2022 • 1:47:01am

re: #62 jaunte

This is a major development in our understanding of the 2022 election.

Turnout in GA on first day early vote is way way above record turnout in 2018 and May come close to 2020 general election

This is the last thing the GOP wants to hear.

But what does it matter? They are simply going to refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of any election that does not go their way.

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Captain Ron  Oct 18, 2022 • 1:50:17am

I haven’t been riding much in the last 6-7 weeks because it was too hot/cold or I had to care for my wife through knee replacement surgery so it was nice to get out on the bike yesterday. Last week I wimped out because I would have had to wear a long sleeve shirt. I broke down today and went out in 65F temps. I had a nice 25 mile ride, blasted downhill on some dirt trails, pulled another 2 goathead thorns out of my front tire. I’m now upwards of 26 punctures in the tube and the tire still holds air. Tire sealant is amazing. I got some bike gloves and they have cut down on my fingers going numb from the weight of my hands on the grips by more than 50%. I ride for my sanity because of all the shit I learn about the world in here, and I’m obviously not riding hard enough. I’m gonna need a better bike.

I’ll try to get over 100 miles by Friday.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2022 • 1:56:57am

“At least 13 people have now died after a Russian fighter-bomber plane crashed into an apartment block in the southern Russian town of Yeysk, officials say.”

That’s what they get for naming cities after crazy anti-semitic musicians.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 18, 2022 • 2:00:16am

I’m going to go off to bed. This was the longest road trip I ever made (nearly ten thousand miles). I need to rest up for another one next week. /s

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2022 • 2:01:47am

re: #95 John Hughes

That wonderful moment when the French Front Populaire decided that, in 1936, the most important thing to do was give people paid holidays rather than working to defeat fascism.

Fascists were giving paid holidays. Gotta hit ‘em where they live.

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Nyet  Oct 18, 2022 • 2:05:20am

re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“At least 13 people have now died after a Russian fighter-bomber plane crashed into an apartment block in the southern Russian town of Yeysk, officials say.”

That’s what they get for naming cities after crazy anti-semitic musicians.

Eh?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2022 • 2:07:13am

re: #104 Nyet

Eh?

Kanye West, now known as “Ye”.

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Nyet  Oct 18, 2022 • 2:08:24am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Kanye West, now known as “Ye”.

Lol

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Captain Ron  Oct 18, 2022 • 2:58:11am

YouTube

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Dangerman  Oct 18, 2022 • 3:16:52am
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Teukka  Oct 18, 2022 • 4:01:35am

re: #109 Dangerman

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 18, 2022 • 4:19:42am

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 18, 2022 • 4:43:15am

I know egg prices have gone up significantly, now I know why.

A near-record number of U.S. chickens and turkeys have died in this year’s outbreak of avian flu, as a different form of the virus than farmers battled before has infected more wild birds that then transmit the disease, officials said.

More than 47 million birds have died due to infections and cullings. This has spurred export bans, lowered egg and turkey production, and contributed to record prices of the staples ahead of the U.S. holiday season. The outbreak exacerbates economic pain for consumers grappling with soaring inflation.

In 2015, 50.5 million birds died in the deadliest U.S. outbreak, the nation’s worst animal-health event to date.

Farmers are fighting a subtype of the H5N1 strain of the virus that survived over the summer, when rising temperatures typically reduce avian flu, said Rosemary Sifford, chief veterinary officer for the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA).

The same subtype, known as the goose/Guangdong lineage, is spreading in Europe, she said in an interview. Europe is already suffering its worst avian flu crisis, with nearly 50 million poultry culled.

news.yahoo.com

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lawhawk  Oct 18, 2022 • 4:47:09am

re: #16 Captain Ron

Unless your enemies are toasters, in which case, networked systems are vulnerable to code hacking and taking down your entire defense grid. /bsg

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 18, 2022 • 5:12:14am

LOL!

Liz Truss suffered a fresh body blow today as a poll found more than half of Tory members want her to quit, with Boris Johnson the favourite to take over.

A bombshell YouGov survey revealed four in five party activists thought the PM was doing a bad job and 55 per cent were convinced she should go, compared to just 38 per cent who backed her staying.

Her predecessor Mr Johnson was the preferred option as a replacement, with 32 per cent supporting him while 23 per cent said Rishi Sunak and 10 per cent Ben Wallace.

dailymail.co.uk

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jeffreyw  Oct 18, 2022 • 5:31:25am

Hambeans and Corncake

Good morning!

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 18, 2022 • 5:36:47am

re: #96 TarHellion

Took the par and feel pretty good about it. Early voting begins in NC on Thursday, however, only the last day of EV is set aside for a Saturday. Got the sample ballots for me and MrsTarH and should be fairly straightforward. Will not vote for a single GQPer, including the many who are unopposed in local races. Make it a good one, folks!

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 18, 2022 • 5:37:20am
Extraordinary first images of a mangled Nord Stream pipeline have emerged, three weeks after it was blown up ‘with extreme force’ in a suspected act of sabotage.

Footage, released on Tuesday, showed at least 165 feet of the Nord Stream 1 pipeline was destroyed or buried under the seabed, following an explosion on September 26 - assumed by many to have been a Russian attack.

Release of the images came as Danish police said ‘powerful explosions’ were behind damage to the two gas pipelines (Nord Stream 1 and 2) in the Danish part of the Baltic Sea. On October 6, Swedish investigators said their own initial investigations had come to a similar conclusion.

dailymail.co.uk

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 18, 2022 • 5:41:05am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As I understand, the Japanese balloon bombs were causing massive damage to US forests, but they managed to keep a blackout on any news reporting on the extent, so the Japanese finally abandoned the project as it seemed ineffective.

One of those balloon bombs actually killed some people up in Oregon; As I recall, they came across it, and went they started examining it, it blew up and killed them.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 18, 2022 • 5:47:17am

re: #118 Shropshire Slasher

LOL!

dailymail.co.uk

Can you imagine how insufferably smug a 2nd term as PM Boris Johnson would be?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 18, 2022 • 5:52:20am

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

One of those balloon bombs actually killed some people up in Oregon; As I recall, they came across it, and went they started examining it, it blew up and killed them.

From what I read the bombs were causing relatively little forest damage. Particularly wet weather in early 1945 and also it being a time when the forests were generally damper lessened the impact.

And once the US government had found a few and figured out what was going on they had paratroopers and equipment stockpiled to help with fire fighting if necessary. (I recall that doing this had a large impact on how the Forest Service approached fire fighting in the PNW post-war.)

The similar English effort against Germany appears to have been much more effective. But they also were not trying to loft balloons across the Pacific Ocean at 25-30,000 ft.

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lawhawk  Oct 18, 2022 • 5:52:33am

re: #123 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Can you imagine how insufferably smug a 2nd term as PM Boris Johnson would be?

Or incredibly short.

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2022 • 5:56:11am
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Belafon  Oct 18, 2022 • 5:58:47am
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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 18, 2022 • 5:59:46am

re: #126 Belafon

What about fentanyl deaths?

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Dangerman  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:00:29am
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) told Robert Draper for his new book that she wants a seat on the high-profile House Oversight and Judiciary committees if Republicans win control of the House in November.

When Draper suggested that might be a big ask, Greene shot back: “I completely deserve it. I’ve been treated like shit. I have been treated like garbage.”

” deserve” not “earned”

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Teukka  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:00:44am

re: #121 Shropshire Slasher

dailymail.co.uk

If I read correctly, the detonation caused shaking equivalent to a magnitude 2.3 quake… So yeah, big badaboom 💥

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Dangerman  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:02:32am

re: #123 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Can you imagine how insufferably smug a 2nd term as PM Boris Johnson would be?

It shows that they got no one else.
No one competent

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:03:47am

re: #127 Belafon

Ron DeathSentence was unavailable for comment. His office released a statement: “His Excellency has already made up his mind that vaccines are bad, and nothing will change it. Now fuck off.”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:04:49am

re: #125 lawhawk

Or incredibly short.

The Tories are in a hole. And since they all appear to want to avoid an election as long as possible they are giving themselves fewer and fewer options.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:05:45am

re: #133 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The Tories are in a hole. And since they all appear to want to avoid an election as long as possible they are giving themselves fewer and fewer options.

The Tories don’t dare call an election now. They’d be on the receiving end of an unprecedented electoral drubbing and they damn well know it.

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Dangerman  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:06:04am

re: #133 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The Tories are in a hole. And since they all appear to want to avoid an election as long as possible they are giving themselves fewer and fewer options.

And looking all the more desperate for it

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:07:22am

re: #87 Nyet

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:08:44am

re: #135 Dangerman

And looking all the more desperate for it

The problem is, much like the former guy in the US, it’s highly likely that they’ll be able to run out the clock on their voters. As long as they can manage to bring it back from the brink within the next year or so, and put together some kind of a win near the end of 2023 or the beginning of 2024, they can coast to an easy victory.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:09:21am

Well this morning will be different. Instead of going to the casting shop, it’s off to Santa Monica small claims court. Chasing money one guy just has not paid. When the bill became one year late we sent a birthday card with the demand letter. Then when that failed, went and got a court date.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:09:38am

re: #135 Dangerman

And looking all the more desperate for it

Someone relatively young and forward-looking in the party is probably pushing them to take their time in the wilderness now while they hand the Brexit-Covid-recession bomb to Labour to deal with.

The time in the wilderness is coming. They might well be better off getting obliterated now since if Labour (or a coalition) then fumbles things they are poised to then say “See, we were not the problem”. (I wonder also if it would give the Tories an opportunity to clean house internally regarding candidates - which might not necessarily be a good thing for the UK.)

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Dangerman  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:10:44am
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Dopamine Fish  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:14:42am

re: #138 Rightwingconspirator

Well this morning will be different. Instead of going to the casting shop, it’s off to Santa Monica small claims court. Chasing money one guy just has not paid. When the bill became one year late we sent a birthday card with the demand letter. Then when that failed, went and got a court date.

That’s no fun. I hope you’re able to recover what you’re owed without paying out more than that in legal fees.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:18:42am

re: #141 Dopamine Fish

That’s no fun. I hope you’re able to recover what you’re owed without paying out more than that in legal fees.

The nice thing about small claims is no attorneys are allowed. If we win ( I think we have a simple debt case) enforcing the judgement will be the thing.

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Nojay UK  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:29:48am

re: #139 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Someone relatively young and forward-looking in the party

The youngest notable Tory in Parliament is Boris. It’s not quite as gerontocratic as the US Dems but the Tories are voted in mostly by people aged 65 and over and Tory MPs tend, like US Senators, to get elected time and time again regardless of achievements or ability.

The time in the wilderness is coming. They might well be better off getting obliterated now since if Labour (or a coalition) then fumbles things they are poised to then say “See, we were not the problem”.

The problem that has Tory voters up in arms and ready to throw the rascals out is mortgage rates. They’re all alongside tax cuts and hurting poor people by cutting benefits for disabled, low earners etc. but the mishandling of the economy has pushed up interest rates and thus mortgage rates and That Won’t Do. Expect a lot of votes to shift to the Temporarily Embarrassed Tory Voter Party aka the Lib Dems. Once mortgage rates come down again another Tory government will be voted in.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:30:17am
German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser on Tuesday dismissed the head of the BSI national cyber security agency, Arne Schönbohm.

Schönbohm was removed from his role as head of the BSI national cyber security agency after media report that he had links with people involved with Russian intelligence services.

The sacking was first reported by the news magazine, Spiegel, and later confirmed by an interior ministry spokesperson.

Faeser was reportedly concerned about Schönbohm’s continued contact with an association called the CyberSecurity Council of Germany.

dw.com

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Teukka  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:30:20am

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lawhawk  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:31:25am

re: #140 Dangerman

That harvest takes a lot of money, and in Trump’s case, it’s obscene that he needs to spend more than 90 cents to raise a single dollar. Of that 90 cents, you can bet the farm that he’s hauling in that money to his businesses and entities and cronies, because of real estate deals, office space, etc.

It’s a large grift, and it isn’t sustainable.

In fact, we’re probably continuing to see people get suckered into repeat contributions - where they intend to contribute once, but end up giving on a regular basis. That leads to refunds, and Trump was already hit by processing companies for excessive refunds, and trying to profit on the delay in processing refunds.

Everywhere you look, Trump scams people.

Everywhere.

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Florida Panhandler  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:31:49am

re: #129 Dangerman

” deserve” not “earned”

“I’ve been treated like shit…”

Blah blah blah.

The Grievance Theater brigade wants weapons.

And voters pay attention….they will use them.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:31:59am

re: #145 Teukka

You know I reloaded the page just to make sure.

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:32:11am

Wordle 486 2/6

⬛⬛🟩🟩🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Startin’ off the day most goodly!

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Dangerman  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:32:51am

re: #142 Rightwingconspirator

The nice thing about small claims is no attorneys are allowed. If we win ( I think we have a simple debt case) enforcing the judgement will be the thing.

when i retired

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the whole thing was interesting and quite satisfying

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Teukka  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:34:10am

re: #148 Dave In Austin

You know I reloaded the page just to make sure.

You’re welcome 😈

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Oblongatis  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:41:26am

Rarely do I post but the talk of the Spanish Civil War reminded me of an old favorite. Not many songs reference this war.

Al Stewart - On the Border (live)

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:44:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:51:58am

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

This breaks my heart.

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Regional park in Kentucky to be renamed in John Prine’s honor

The town is long gone, but the music remains. John Prine’s 1971 song, “Paradise,” was inspired by boyhood trips from Chicago to his parents’ hometown in western Kentucky. “And daddy won’t you take me back to Muhlenberg County,” Prine sings, “Down by the Green River where Paradise lay.”

On Saturday, Oct. 1, officials in Muhlenberg County will rename a regional park along the Green River in Prine’s honor. Prine, who enjoyed a 50-year career as a singer-songwriter, died in April 2020 at age 73 from complications related to COVID. The newly named John Prine Memorial Park will be dedicated during an official ceremony attended by Prine’s family, friends and fans.

this happened a couple of weeks ago

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 18, 2022 • 6:59:50am

Wordle — 2

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:02:43am
Iran has promised to provide Russia with surface to surface missiles, in addition to more drones, two senior Iranian officials and two Iranian diplomats told Reuters, a move that is likely to infuriate the United States and other Western powers.

A deal was agreed on Oct. 6 when Iran’s First Vice President Mohammad Mokhber, two senior officials from Iran’s powerful Revolutionary Guards and an official from the Supreme National Security Council visited Moscow for talks with Russia about the delivery of the weapons.

“The Russians had asked for more drones and those Iranian ballistic missiles with improved accuracy, particularly the Fateh and Zolfaghar missiles family,” said one of the Iranian diplomats, who was briefed about the trip.

A Western official briefed on the matter confirmed it, saying there was an agreement in place between Iran and Russia to provide surface-to-surface short range ballistic missiles, including the Zolfaghar.

reuters.com

Iran is already sanctioned to hell and back. I really don’t know what more we can do with them.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:03:13am

A bit of a rant, but why does every news story have to be BREAKING? Is it really? “BREAKING: I slept in a bed last night.” Whoop-de-freakin’-do. I think some journalists would describe their visits to the toilet as breaking, at this point.

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lawhawk  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:04:39am

re: #156 Dr Lizardo

Iran’s going to burn through their stocks of weapons, though they’ll get testing data in live fire situations. How quickly they can resupply and maintain domestic supply is a big question. That Russia needs these Iranian weapons shows the desperation on Russia’s part to go after Ukraine and terrorize civilian populations.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:06:46am

re: #158 lawhawk

Iran’s going to burn through their stocks of weapons, though they’ll get testing data in live fire situations. How quickly they can resupply and maintain domestic supply is a big question. That Russia needs these Iranian weapons shows the desperation on Russia’s part to go after Ukraine and terrorize civilian populations.

And from what I am hearing is the new commander of Russian forces in Ukraine is a true piece of shit. Has no problem killing civilians.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:07:58am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:11:20am

re: #158 lawhawk

re: #159 Eventual Carrion

Russia has to be defeated, that goes without saying - otherwise, we slide into a world where a nuclear-armed irredentist starts conquering his neighbors while everyone else stands by helplessly.

But how to defeat Russia without a direct military confrontation? Aye, there’s the rub. Personally, I think a direct NATO/Russia military confrontation is inevitable.

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Unabogie  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:12:38am

re: #1 gocart mozart

Report this nazi

That entire thread is full of virulent anti-semitism. I have been screaming for decades that the ADL was stupidly siding with the Right and it would come back to bite us. Now the leopards are eating our faces and they’re shocked?

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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:13:21am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:20:20am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:21:47am

re: #164 Dave In Austin

That’s a good way to get the pups some exercise.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:25:51am

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s a good way to get the pups some exercise.

And pretty much triggering the hard-wired “chase small animals” thing in dog brains.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:29:02am

😲😲😲😲😲

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lawhawk  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:32:43am

Trump had no clue what he was doing re: North Korea. He was spewing word salad and admitted as much to Bob Woodward.

The interviews offer unvarnished insights into the former president’s worldview and are the most extensive recordings of Trump speaking about his presidency — including explaining his rationale for meeting Kim, his relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin, and Trump’s detailed views of the US nuclear arsenal. The audio also shows how Trump decided to share with Woodward the letters Kim wrote to him - the letters that helped spark the DOJ investigation into classified documents Trump took to Mar-a-Lago.

“And don’t say I gave them to you, okay?” Trump told Woodward.

Woodward said in the book’s introduction that he is releasing the recordings in part because “hearing Trump speak is a completely different experience to reading the transcripts or listening to snatches of interviews on television or the internet.”

He describes Trump as “raw, profane, divisive and deceptive. His language is often retaliatory.”

“Yet, you will also hear him engaging and entertaining, laughing, ever the host. He is trying to win me over, sell his presidency to me. The full-time salesman,” Woodward said. “I wanted to put as much of Trump’s voice, his own words, out there for the historical record and so people could hear and judge and make their own assessments.”

He admits that he had better relationships with fascists. Figures that he would admit that.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:33:50am

re: #119 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:37:48am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:40:18am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:41:26am

re: #168 lawhawk

Trump had no clue what he was doing re: North Korea. He was spewing word salad and admitted as much to Bob Woodward.

Could have left it right there.

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:42:29am
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Dangerman  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:44:30am

re: #168 lawhawk

Trump had no clue what he was doing re: North Korea. He was spewing word salad and admitted as much to Bob Woodward.

He admits that he had better relationships with fascists. Figures that he would admit that.

what possible motive could woodward have?

oh, $44.99 per cd

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Dangerman  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:49:51am

so cheap gas means more than the loss of a constitutional right?
I can’t get pregnant and I’d never put commodity prices ahead of Roe in order of importance
how can a woman anywhere worry more about filling the suv than about her bodily self-determination, and that of her daughters or granddaughters?

it doesn’t seem possible, and yet it is: too many vote based on immediacy and misplaced anger

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:54:18am

re: #175 Dangerman

it doesn’t seem possible, and yet it is: too many vote based on immediacy and misplaced anger

People are inherently self-centered. To many, THEIR rights aren’t under attack; most white women aren’t thinking, “Oh, I may some day need to get an abortion.” They’re not planning on getting pregnant, or they’re married and are secure in the knowledge that a baby will be well cared for, or they don’t think that getting pregnant is a risky endeavor and can end badly in many ways, some of which can be fatal to the woman as well as the fetus. The only thing they’re thinking is, “Abortion is an abstract concept to me because I personally foresee no situation in which I might require one, therefore my biggest concern is gas prices.”

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Dangerman  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:56:32am
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) told Punchbowl News that if Republicans win control of the House the GOP will use raising the debt limit as leverage to force spending cuts and limit additional funding to Ukraine.

McCarthy also wouldn’t rule out cuts to Medicare and Social Security.

Said McCarthy: “You can’t just continue down the path to keep spending and adding to the debt.”

i get it: spending is irresponsible. threatening US default on the debt somehow is not?

and ps - ss and medicare dont add to the debt

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HRH Stanley Sea  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:56:56am
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Dopamine Fish  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:57:02am

re: #176 Dopamine Fish

Part of the problem is that focusing on “abortion rights” is ignoring the larger picture: That Republicans are trying to prevent women from making their own health care decisions. In the case of abortion, for people who believe life begins at conception, I can appreciate the argument that it’s wrong for a woman to make choices on behalf of her unborn child. (That argument is completely wrong in every way, but I understand where they’re coming from.) You can’t make that same argument for IVF, or contraception.

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:57:37am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:58:06am

re: #167 Dave In Austin

😲😲😲😲😲

Wow, and no sign of sheet music in front of him. Also, do they have blocks on the pedals for him to reach :-)

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lawhawk  Oct 18, 2022 • 7:59:43am

re: #179 Dopamine Fish

Part of the problem is that focusing on “abortion rights” is ignoring the larger picture: That Republicans are trying to prevent women from making their own health care decisions. In the case of abortion, for people who believe life begins at conception, I can appreciate the argument that it’s wrong for a woman to make choices on behalf of her unborn child. (That argument is completely wrong in every way, but I understand where they’re coming from.) You can’t make that same argument for IVF, or contraception.

Texas law and other states are criminalizing reproductive health, and will harass and terrorize women who are going across state lines, regardless of whether they’re going for an abortion or not. That’s what these laws do. They ultimately affect interstate commerce, and the SCOTUS is signaling that women will not be protected by the Constitution.

Dobbs was just the first step towards denying women their bodily autonomy and their rights.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 18, 2022 • 8:01:43am

re: #182 lawhawk

Texas law and other states are criminalizing reproductive health, and will harass and terrorize women who are going across state lines, regardless of whether they’re going for an abortion or not. That’s what these laws do. They ultimately affect interstate commerce, and the SCOTUS is signaling that women will not be protected by the Constitution.

Dobbs was just the first step towards denying women their bodily autonomy and their rights.

Well, the original text of the Constitution was written by, and for, wealthy white slave-owning men. They’re the only people the Constitution was originally meant to protect, everybody else can just go die, I guess.

/My sarcasm, but how long before Sam Alito actually says this (or similar) out loud?

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A Cranky One  Oct 18, 2022 • 8:16:10am

re: #181 Eventual Carrion

Wow, and no sign of sheet music in front of him. Also, do they have blocks on the pedals for him to reach :-)

When I was in an orchestra, we had a guest pianist who was 12.

Absolutely amazing player. Also blew us away because he sight read the piece then put away the sheet music. Conductor would ask us to replay a section of the piece after measure x in section y and he could do that without referencing the score.

Watched for him in the industry for a while and never saw anything.

Child prodigy musicians seem to struggle later in life.

But the little guy in the video was certainly amazing. Can’t understand how he played that with such small hands. Wow indeed.

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SerialUpDinger  Oct 18, 2022 • 8:29:16am

Did I read that correctly?

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A Cranky One  Oct 18, 2022 • 8:29:51am

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Dr. Matt  Oct 18, 2022 • 8:38:54am

RW Triggering in 5…4…3…2…….

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 18, 2022 • 8:40:38am

Putting this in private due to a measure of paranoia, but for all:

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HRH Stanley Sea  Oct 18, 2022 • 8:44:01am

re: #188 (((Archangel1)))

Putting this in private due to a a measure of paranoia, but for all:

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nines09  Oct 18, 2022 • 8:45:34am

re: #188 (((Archangel1)))

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Oct 18, 2022 • 8:45:37am

re: #183 Dopamine Fish

Well, the original text of the Constitution was written by, and for, wealthy white slave-owning men. They’re the only people the Constitution was originally meant to protect, everybody else can just go die, I guess.

/My sarcasm, but how long before Sam Alito actually says this (or similar) out loud?

Just. stop. this. bullshit. The Constitution was largely written by one wealthy white slaveholder (whose debts prevented him from freeing his slaves even assuming he would have wanted to), but it was argued and recast by a Convention that included slaveholders, abolitionists, and the indifferent. The same wealthy white slaveholder was largely responsible for the Bill of Rights, which have functioned as a bulwark against the interests of the powerful against the powerless. And all this took place after another wealthy, white and heavily indebted slaveholder expressed the ideas floating in the air at that time: “…that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” (Also an oversimplification, but I don’t have time to write a book,and there are good ones already available.)

More important, the reduction of history to a series of tweet-sized statements does nothing but harm to public discourse. It’s getting to the point where we expect nothing better (and nothing else) from public figures than the ability to make clever remarks — and we already know where that leads.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 8:45:52am

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 8:47:51am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

French cement company paid ISIS $17M to protect plant in Syria, Justice Department says

A French cement company has been charged in the United States with making $17 million in payments to the Islamic State terrorist group in exchange for the protection of its plant in Syria, the Department of Justice said Tuesday.

Lafarge paid ISIS from August 2013 to October 2014 when the group was carrying out kidnappings and beheadings and transmitting waves of propaganda designed to inspire terrorist attacks against innocent civilians, prosecutors said.

The company is expected to plead guilty Tuesday to one count of conspiring to provide material support to a foreign terrorist group and pay a fine of $778 million, according to multiple people familiar with the matter. While no individuals have been charged, Justice Department officials said the investigation is ongoing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2022 • 8:50:15am

re: #188 (((Archangel1)))

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 8:50:26am
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Belafon  Oct 18, 2022 • 8:53:51am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 18, 2022 • 8:54:39am

re: #148 Dave In Austin

You know I reloaded the page just to make sure.

Well Charles said yesterday he was still tweaking the code and moving things over to the new server and that we might see some odd things while he was doing it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 8:58:10am
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lawhawk  Oct 18, 2022 • 8:58:17am

re: #188 (((Archangel1)))

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Florida Panhandler  Oct 18, 2022 • 8:58:54am

This is an anti-Irish cartoon from the 1800s. It doesn’t take much for even “white people” to be cast as dirty and less than human. Those people belonging to demographics not Mayflower-white that vote Republican seems to forget this, or not even know about it.

Many many people, especially men within minority communities voting for their own sense of misogyny or suckered into the Trump con will soon learn to very much regret their decision after a MAGA takeover.

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Dangerman  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:00:21am

re: #187 Dr. Matt

RW Triggering in 5…4…3…2…….

[Embedded content]

Right:
How dare you quote his own words in his own voice when he voluntarily sat to be interviewed

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:01:23am
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Dangerman  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:04:28am

re: #191 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

..

More important, the reduction of history to a series of tweet-sized statements does nothing but harm to public discourse. It’s getting to the point where we expect nothing better (and nothing else) from public figures than the ability to make clever remarks — and we already know where that leads.

The whole generation just born since, say, 2000, think this is what politics is and how it works. And how it’s always worked.

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:05:06am

re: #191 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Sorry. I reported my post to be deleted, since it’s too late to edit it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:07:31am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:08:37am

re: #191 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

More important, the reduction of history to a series of tweet-sized statements does nothing but harm to public discourse. It’s getting to the point where we expect nothing better (and nothing else) from public figures than the ability to make clever remarks — and we already know where that leads.

Karl Rove made it clear that you just have to control the message and get the media on your side and you can create whatever reality you wish.

It has been successful so far. Millions live in the GOP reality in which the 2020 elections were stolen, the Jan 6th rioters were engaging in “legitimate political discourse”, and in which people like Lauren Bobert and MTG are competent members of Congress.

But creating a reality in which people like Herschel Walker or Dr. Oz are viable candidates has proven a bit more difficult of late.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:18:56am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:20:11am

re: #197 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

That page was meant to be blank…..

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Dave In Austin  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:22:30am

Anyone offhand know if this is true?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:24:09am

re: #209 Dave In Austin

Anyone offhand know if this is true?

No truth to claim that Medicare is offering free dental care

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:24:16am

re: #204 Dopamine Fish

Sorry. I reported my post to be deleted, since it’s too late to edit it.

…of course you shouldn’t think you’re uniquely guilty — all of us succumb to the temptation sometimes.

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Dangerman  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:29:28am

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Nyet  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:32:12am

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

“123
Retweets
7
Quote Tweets
330
Likes”

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Dangerman  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:33:14am
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Dangerman  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:41:59am
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Belafon  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:42:48am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:43:16am

Remember that the lower the income (and the more rural the location), the larger the share of the budget that goes for gasoline and groceries.

They are decisive elements for many for better or worse.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:44:43am

re: #216 Belafon

Damn, I’m glad I got my bivalent shot last week.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:45:42am

re: #218 Eclectic Cyborg

Damn, I’m glad I got my bivalent shot last week.

not feeling ambivalent about it?

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:45:50am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

not feeling ambivalent about it?

*WHACK!*

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Captain Ron  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:47:51am
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Dangerman  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:47:55am
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Dangerman  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:49:19am
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Nyet  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:50:21am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

not feeling ambivalent about it?

What are you, ambicurious?

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Dangerman  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:51:51am
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Dr. Matt  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:52:59am

*snort*

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:53:08am

re: #216 Belafon

[Embedded content]

Officially reported cases continue to drop(probably most aren’t reported these days) and deaths are declining too. So we will have to wait and see whether this particular increase reflects any impact on health here. Maybe the newer variants are much less dangerous— perhaps it’s evolving to be closer to a cold, like several other coronaviruses.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:53:26am

re: #224 Nyet

What are you, ambicurious?

I’d give my left arm to be ambidextrous.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:53:37am

re: #224 Nyet

What are you, ambicurious?

I am not sure how I feel about clams, oysters and scallops: I am ambivalvic

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:54:23am

re: #228 Eventual Carrion

I’d give my left arm to be ambidextrous.

that is ambitious

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Dopamine Fish  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:55:28am

re: #224 Nyet

re: #228 Eventual Carrion

re: #229 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

re: #230 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You are all horrible people and I love you. :)

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dat_said  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:57:24am

re: #228 Eventual Carrion

I’d give my left arm to be ambidextrous.

I’m ambisinister.

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:58:45am

re: #227 Hecuba’s daughter

Officially reported cases continue to drop(probably most aren’t reported these days) and deaths are declining too. So we will have to wait and see whether this particular increase reflects any impact on health here. Maybe the newer variants are much less dangerous— perhaps it’s evolving to be closer to a cold, like several other coronaviruses.

I figure the wastewater is a reliable indicator of who is actually infected. Reported stats are a subset of people who tested positive because they had symptoms and had to report it for a reason.

Where this will be interesting is as it spreads to other parts of the country, where vaccination rates are lower.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2022 • 9:59:43am

re: #232 dat_said

I’m ambisinister.

From Ambyssinia?

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Dangerman  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:02:54am

re: #234 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

From Ambyssinia?

Ok I’m outta here

Abysinnia

Ps.. dangermom seems to have turned a corner

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:04:09am
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Belafon  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:04:11am
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A Cranky One  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:06:08am

re: #231 Dopamine Fish

You are all horrible people and I love you. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:07:15am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:08:15am

re: #237 Belafon

What difference does voting make when you know that the GOP are not going to recognize the legitimacy of any outcome that does not favor them?

/ (semi)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:10:11am
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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:11:00am

re: #157 Dopamine Fish

A bit of a rant, but why does every news story have to be BREAKING? Is it really? “BREAKING: I slept in a bed last night.” Whoop-de-freakin’-do. I think some journalists would describe their visits to the toilet as breaking, at this point.

Breaking: Wind

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:12:20am
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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:13:04am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dr. Matt  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:13:57am

re: #157 Dopamine Fish

A bit of a rant, but why does every news story have to be BREAKING? Is it really? “BREAKING: I slept in a bed last night.” Whoop-de-freakin’-do. I think some journalists would describe their visits to the toilet as breaking, at this point.

In a 24/7 news cycle world, everything is “breaking” unfortunately. Apparently the new CNN management has vowed to curb its use.

Oh wait…..let me update that….

BREAKING: New CNN management has vowed to curb its use

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:14:38am

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ugh. I’m running out of desks to flip over here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:14:49am
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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:15:03am

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

How would calling a worthless Republican help?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:15:21am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:15:22am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:17:43am

re: #248 Crush White Nationalism

I’m guessing the woman might well be a Republican herself. Outside of that, most of the major elected officials in MO are GOP, so it makes sense that if you are making an appeal to the state government to make something happen you’d have to go through a Republican.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:18:04am
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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:20:23am

re: #251 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m guessing the woman might well be a Republican herself. Outside of that, most of the major elected officials in MO are GOP, so it makes sense that if you are making an appeal to the state government to make something happen you’d have to go through a Republican.

You can’t make an appeal to the lunatics who are hurting you to stop hurting you. It just makes you look weak to them, and has no possibility of being helpful.
If they had a conscience, they wouldn’t be Republicans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:23:25am
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wrenchwench  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:25:19am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:28:11am

re: #253 Crush White Nationalism

You can’t make an appeal to the lunatics who are hurting you to stop hurting you. It just makes you look weak to them, and has no possibility of being helpful.
If they had a conscience, they wouldn’t be Republicans.

The lady may have made the mistake of assuming there were still some reasonable Republicans out there.

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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:28:21am

re: #255 wrenchwench

If you’ve ever seen a beaver’s teeth you’ll know that they appear pretty orange. This is because, whereas other rodents have magnesium in their tooth enamel, beavers have iron. So beavers have orange teeth for the same reason we have red blood.

The iron causes the orange colouring in beavers’ teeth, makes the teeth stronger against mechanical stress, and makes them more resistant to acid. Researchers are using these new findings to look at ways of strengthening human teeth, which gives my dreams of candy-conquering new hope.

Beavers Have Metal Teeth (McGill)

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nines09  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:29:13am

re: #250 Dr Lizardo

They don’t seem to fall from high rise windows in the West though….

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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:29:53am

re: #256 Eclectic Cyborg

The lady may have made the mistake of assuming there were still some reasonable Republicans out there.

That’s unfortunate. Getting up to speed on something like that while you’re in crisis would be very upsetting. I thought Republicans had been entirely clear that they’re extremists who can’t be negotiated with.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:31:31am

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pelosi on if she really would’ve punched out Trump on January 6: “He wouldn’t have had the courage to come to the hill. He’s all talk.”

He’s afraid of women.

Jus look at his mother and you’ll understand where that comes from

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:31:41am

re: #258 nines09

They don’t seem to fall from high rise windows in the West though….

they need to watch out for stabby umbrellas, though…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:34:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:35:03am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:36:55am

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

My my, Ye, Ye…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:38:48am
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Crush White Nationalism  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:39:09am

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wrenchwench  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:42:14am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:43:42am

re: #266 Crush White Nationalism

That is really well done.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:47:12am

re: #256 Eclectic Cyborg

The lady may have made the mistake of assuming there were still some reasonable Republicans out there.

I believe she identified herself as pro-life so she voted for the lunatics not understanding how it could affect her life. These are the people she supports. Let’s see if her first hand experience changes her views — but probably not. After all when 3 year old Johnny kills his 2 year old sister with a handgun left in the house, the family doesn’t change its perspective on guns but attributes the tragedy to God’s will.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:57:50am

re: #269 Hecuba’s daughter

After all when 3 year old Johnny kills his 2 year old sister with a handgun left in the house, the family doesn’t change its perspective on guns but attributes the tragedy to God’s will.

Blood offerings to the Blood God.

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Captain Ron  Oct 18, 2022 • 10:58:58am

Occupation authorities in Kherson region of Ukraine declare evacuation of population from the right bank of Dnipro river, citing threat of destruction of dam of Kakhovka reservoir

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wrenchwench  Oct 18, 2022 • 11:05:15am

Lowder.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 486 5/6*

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🟨🟨⬛⬛🟨
⬛🟨🟨🟨⬛
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No greens until line 5. Pen and post-it did the trick. My 50th 5.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 18, 2022 • 11:07:44am

re: #271 Captain Ron

Occupation authorities in Kherson region of Ukraine declare evacuation of population from the right bank of Dnipro river, citing threat of destruction of dam of Kakhovka reservoir

they are in Dnip shit

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A Cranky One  Oct 18, 2022 • 11:09:32am

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Dr. Matt  Oct 18, 2022 • 11:17:13am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2022 • 11:19:55am

re: #275 Dr. Matt

I swear those damn songs better not be autoplay.

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lawhawk  Oct 18, 2022 • 11:20:38am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 18, 2022 • 11:21:54am

re: #277 lawhawk

We don’t even have the largest military in the world. Where is all that money going?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 11:22:24am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 18, 2022 • 11:22:57am

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

We don’t even have the largest military in the world. Where is all that money going?

contractors…

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HRH Stanley Sea  Oct 18, 2022 • 11:23:45am

My 60th 5

Happy anniversary young ww.

WDZUbVFxa2liRWl1a25vL0htSFFiS2tHenFJMnBMeEF1RyszUHBBRlM1eW04RTBJMEltQUkxREdwbWNMSUlNTmFUU3Nvc09tbEpPSXN6VkJpbFRrNXJPNkhMRDJUUVc4OVQ0TjNBRGFEWi95ZGdjVUgxN0J0OFVhOWNIVUNuNnRScW5Ta2lURTYyQWdDOFFmU3l1Vk50cjk0TXdOMnNBY0dSYjEwUS9LSVQzT2hKcjVNdUk4ajhBM1FWMlpyanRtOjruhblLdeconyQsS1TeZfRl

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wrenchwench  Oct 18, 2022 • 11:24:50am

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

contractors…

I was rummaging around for the word. I almost got my post-its out.

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jaunte  Oct 18, 2022 • 11:26:13am

The squeals and shrieks of irony when Mike Pence started tweeting about STRENGTH have spoiled my nap.

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2022 • 11:29:20am

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

We don’t even have the largest military in the world. Where is all that money going?

We pay contractors and others so they don’t do what the oligarchs and others have done to the Russian military.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Oct 18, 2022 • 11:31:44am

re: #222 Dangerman

As one might expect from a party whose real support base, the yokel gentry, is infested with tax cheats, money launderers, child molesting preachers, human traffickers, sweatshop profiteers and others who can buy off local authority but have reason to fear federal enforcement power.

The Repug gentry is worse in every respect than the reactionary French aristocracy of 1789. May the peasants act accordingly.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 18, 2022 • 11:43:08am

re: #222 Dangerman

[Embedded content]

Does dipshit Crowder wear his gun for all of his shows?

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 18, 2022 • 12:56:26pm

re: #222 Dangerman

Filipkowski @RonFilipkowski

Kari Lake now wants to disband the FBI: “We’re gonna push back with our state’s rights. We’re sovereign states. We are not serfs of the federal government.”

Her Arizona sovereign state is a long way downhill from the replenishable 1/3rd of their water supply.

They’ll be sucking on an aquifer, some of which is controlled by Saudi Arabia.

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 18, 2022 • 12:58:51pm

re: #234 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

From Ambyssinia?

And a dulcimer was played?


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