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While Earth’s natural history has been playing out over the last few billion years, another epic planetary saga has also been unfolding right next door.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 5:09:46pm

Such a different world only ninety miles south of me.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 10, 2023 • 5:11:12pm
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Backwoods Sleuth  May 10, 2023 • 5:13:04pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 10, 2023 • 5:16:03pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good. Why give him a platform? He’s a sexual assault predator. Yet here you are giving him a platform. What do you expect?

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Charles Johnson  May 10, 2023 • 5:17:30pm

Gah. I turned on CNN and the orange fucker is speed-lying again.

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austin_blue  May 10, 2023 • 5:17:52pm

From downstairs:

re: #215 Colère Tueur de Lapin

So, now I’m binging Batwoman. I hate Sophie. But, her beard (?, is that the correct term for a boy who is covering for his lesbian wife (?)) is named Tyler. So I hate the boy character even more.

I believe the proper term is “merkin”.

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Unabogie  May 10, 2023 • 5:18:00pm
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Nerdy Fish  May 10, 2023 • 5:18:46pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Gah. I turned on CNN and the orange fucker is speed-lying again.

But I was told this town hall was being moderated by a fine and critical journalist.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 10, 2023 • 5:19:10pm
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DodgerFan1988  May 10, 2023 • 5:20:55pm
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William Lewis  May 10, 2023 • 5:21:46pm

Oh, cool, new EONS episode. Off to learn rather than GAF about the Mango Moron.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 10, 2023 • 5:21:50pm
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Charles Johnson  May 10, 2023 • 5:22:07pm
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Unabogie  May 10, 2023 • 5:22:54pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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It’s unconscionable what they’ve done here.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 10, 2023 • 5:23:28pm

Remember CNN just said this. They have gone completely over to the bad side.

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Charles Johnson  May 10, 2023 • 5:23:44pm
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Captain Ron  May 10, 2023 • 5:24:20pm
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A Three Hour Tour  May 10, 2023 • 5:25:15pm

re: #15 The Pie Overlord!

Remember CNN just said this. They have gone completely over to the bad side.

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It’s bad for the nation, but it’s good for Warner Bros-Discovery head David Ex-Lax, er, Zaslav.

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Nerdy Fish  May 10, 2023 • 5:25:52pm

I’m sure Dear Leader will reward CNN most bigly when he takes over and ends democracy in America permanently.

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Unabogie  May 10, 2023 • 5:26:02pm

I did not know this, but Kaitlan Collins got her start at the Daily Caller.

en.wikipedia.org

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sagehen  May 10, 2023 • 5:26:41pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

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Don’t be silly. They can always dig for an even lower bottom.

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EstebanTornado1963  May 10, 2023 • 5:28:58pm

E Jean should sue his ass again

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The Pie Overlord!  May 10, 2023 • 5:29:15pm
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Captain Ron  May 10, 2023 • 5:29:58pm
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jaunte  May 10, 2023 • 5:30:29pm
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Captain Ron  May 10, 2023 • 5:31:13pm
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DodgerFan1988  May 10, 2023 • 5:31:13pm

re: #17 Captain Ron

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 5:31:41pm
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The Pie Overlord!  May 10, 2023 • 5:31:54pm

He’s just repeating all of his “greatest hits” as the applause rolls and rolls.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 10, 2023 • 5:32:23pm
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jaunte  May 10, 2023 • 5:35:33pm
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The Pie Overlord!  May 10, 2023 • 5:35:40pm

JFCOEUJCOMD (JFC on electric unicycle juggling chainsaws over Mount Doom.)

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 10, 2023 • 5:35:45pm

jeebus

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 5:36:38pm

re: #18 A Three Hour Tour

It’s bad for the nation, but it’s good for Warner Bros-Discovery head David Ex-Lax, er, Zaslav.

News organisations do just fine under fascist regimes as long as they follow the orders of the dictator’s government. Very few newspapers were actually shut down by the German Nazi regime (initially).

Our own New York Times was busy trying to downplay and both-sides Hitler.

There’s a reasons Musk and the Libertarian Party are attacking mostly unbiased public broadcasters such as the BBC, VOA, CBC, and NPR.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 10, 2023 • 5:37:19pm
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Backwoods Sleuth  May 10, 2023 • 5:38:09pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 5:40:34pm

Right on the state line south of me, moving north.

The NWS weather radio just popped off with a severe thunderstorm watch and a flood warning for our area.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 10, 2023 • 5:41:12pm
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Backwoods Sleuth  May 10, 2023 • 5:41:49pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 10, 2023 • 5:42:10pm

There is no reflection anywhere. It doesn’t matter. 35% or so of Americans just want liberal tears. They don’t care about rape or destroying the world economy. I only pray that some small segment of women who might have voted for Trump will now reject him out of hand.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 10, 2023 • 5:43:27pm
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darthstar  May 10, 2023 • 5:46:43pm

I listened to the first part of Trump’s town hall. Pretty standard bullshit. Doubled down on his lies. First question was whether he’d drop the election fraud bullshit - doubled down on it again and got applause.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 5:46:43pm

Tornado warning extended to Sterling, Colorado. If the storm continues, the next warnings will be for Sidney, Nebr. Currently it’s sunny here, but getting dark to the south.

The National Weather Service in Denver Colorado has issued a

* Tornado Warning for…
Northeastern Morgan County in northeastern Colorado…
Southwestern Logan County in northeastern Colorado…

* Until 700 PM MDT.

* At 633 PM MDT, a severe thunderstorm capable of producing a tornado
was located 5 miles south of Willard, or 18 miles southwest of
Sterling, moving north at 40 mph.

HAZARD…Tornado and ping pong ball size hail.

SOURCE…Radar indicated rotation.

IMPACT…Flying debris will be dangerous to those caught without
shelter. Mobile homes will be damaged or destroyed.
Damage to roofs, windows, and vehicles will occur. Tree
damage is likely.

* This dangerous storm will be near…
Willard around 640 PM MDT.
Pawnee Pass and Logan Corners around 650 PM MDT.

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DodgerFan1988  May 10, 2023 • 5:49:57pm
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darthstar  May 10, 2023 • 5:50:11pm
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Backwoods Sleuth  May 10, 2023 • 5:53:11pm
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Backwoods Sleuth  May 10, 2023 • 5:54:55pm
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Captain Ron  May 10, 2023 • 5:55:43pm
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Backwoods Sleuth  May 10, 2023 • 5:57:51pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 5:58:00pm

Since E. Jean Carroll is now a multi-millionaire, and she’s shown herself to be fearless in the face of Trump’s threats, she can afford to hire a really good lawyer to go after CNN for platforming the same lies she just won her court case over.

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Ace Rothstein  May 10, 2023 • 5:58:07pm

re: #27 DodgerFan1988

It was hanky panky? I thought he never met her.

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jaunte  May 10, 2023 • 5:58:46pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

You can’t treat a deranged serial liar autocrat like any other candidate.

You can’t give them a microphone.

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jaunte  May 10, 2023 • 6:00:11pm
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Charles Johnson  May 10, 2023 • 6:00:49pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 6:01:27pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

This zombie lie came from New York passing a law allowing for end-of-life pallative care for infants born with no chance of survival, and grief counselling for family members.

Glenn Youngkin (Fascist) first weaponised the lie in his run for Virginia governor. It became a talking point for the parrots in the GOP.

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Captain Ron  May 10, 2023 • 6:01:49pm
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Captain Ron  May 10, 2023 • 6:02:46pm
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Backwoods Sleuth  May 10, 2023 • 6:03:10pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 10, 2023 • 6:05:56pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

But it’s also St. A’s that should be ashamed. They should never have agreed to host this shit.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 10, 2023 • 6:06:51pm

niterz, lizardz!

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darthstar  May 10, 2023 • 6:07:07pm

Why did Biden have nine boxes in China town?

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Belafon  May 10, 2023 • 6:07:20pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 10, 2023 • 6:08:22pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

I looked and… Please tell me what happened.

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darthstar  May 10, 2023 • 6:10:12pm

re: #63 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I looked and… Please tell me what happened.

He’s a piece of excrement…not even human excrement.

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Captain Ron  May 10, 2023 • 6:10:34pm

re: #62 Belafon

CNN is a slut, not a whore!

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Ace Rothstein  May 10, 2023 • 6:10:35pm

Trump made an asshole out of you, CNN. And you deserved it.

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Teukka  May 10, 2023 • 6:11:26pm
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Captain Ron  May 10, 2023 • 6:12:39pm

re: #67 Teukka

Not sure how that is a war crime.

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Teukka  May 10, 2023 • 6:14:17pm

re: #68 Captain Ron

Not sure how that is a war crime.

Depends on where he was when he was killed.

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darthstar  May 10, 2023 • 6:14:41pm
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Captain Ron  May 10, 2023 • 6:15:36pm

re: #69 Teukka

Depends on where he was when he was killed.

It sounds like they were embedded with combat troops in a combat zone and targeted with rockets from a distance.

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darthstar  May 10, 2023 • 6:16:13pm
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Jay C  May 10, 2023 • 6:16:28pm

re: #69 Teukka

Depends on where he was when he was killed.

The French tend to look after their own: “crime” or no, they’re going to do an investigation in any case, if only for form’s sake.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 10, 2023 • 6:18:28pm

I still believe that when trumps brags about sexual assault it hurts him with women and younger voters. He’s going to lose in 2024. Not going to be easy, but if he gets the nom he will lose by a wider margin than last time. and Fuck trump.

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DodgerFan1988  May 10, 2023 • 6:19:10pm
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Belafon  May 10, 2023 • 6:20:31pm

re: #74 I Would Prefer Not To

I still believe that when trumps brags about sexual assault it hurts him with women and younger voters. He’s going to lose in 2024. Not going to be easy, but if he gets the nom he will lose by a wider margin than last time. and Fuck trump.

To ask a MAGAt: What if your daughter doesn’t want to be grabbed?

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JC1  May 10, 2023 • 6:21:20pm

re: #20 Unabogie

I did not know this, but Kaitlan Collins got her start at the Daily Caller.

en.wikipedia.org

Yep..

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jaunte  May 10, 2023 • 6:21:29pm
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Captain Ron  May 10, 2023 • 6:21:40pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 6:22:31pm

Storms getting closer to Nebraska’s Panhandle.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  May 10, 2023 • 6:23:08pm

Sorry, but this seems like the lead in to dozens of horror movies

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Belafon  May 10, 2023 • 6:23:47pm

The Truman Show is on (it’s one of those I tend to stop on when I see it). Someone should write his memoir, The Show Goes On, 25 Years Later.

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William Lewis  May 10, 2023 • 6:25:38pm

re: #68 Captain Ron

Not sure how that is a war crime.

Only if he was targeted really.

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Patricia Kayden  May 10, 2023 • 6:26:08pm

re: #66 Ace Rothstein

But they’ll get monster ratings because everyone (not me) is watching so it’s all good.

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Nerdy Fish  May 10, 2023 • 6:26:31pm
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darthstar  May 10, 2023 • 6:27:08pm

re: #81 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Sorry, but this seems like the lead in to dozens of horror movies

Or a possible solution to the royal family’s hereditary issues. Prince William looks as old as his father and has the same hair. Prince Henry looks like Diana had at least one good night before she died…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 6:28:07pm

Radar from MSN. The edge of the tornadic storm in Colorado has reached us.

msn.com

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darthstar  May 10, 2023 • 6:28:19pm

re: #82 Belafon

The Truman Show is on (it’s one of those I tend to stop on when I see it). Someone should write his memoir, The Show Goes On, 25 Years Later.

That was the first movie where everyone at the end said, “Holy shit! Ace Ventura can act!”

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darthstar  May 10, 2023 • 6:28:52pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Radar from MSN. The edge of the tornadic storm in Colorado has reached us.

msn.com

I read that as romantic, not tornadic…stay safe all the same.

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Patricia Kayden  May 10, 2023 • 6:29:38pm

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Captain Ron  May 10, 2023 • 6:31:03pm

re: #90 Patricia Kayden

Grab him again, tomorrow.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 6:32:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 6:33:33pm
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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2023 • 6:34:06pm

Hope CNN got terrible ratings; from what I saw on Twitter it was every bit as awful as we thought it would be.

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BeenHereAwhile  May 10, 2023 • 6:35:45pm

re: #74 I Would Prefer Not To

I still believe that when trumps brags about sexual assault it hurts him with women and younger voters. He’s going to lose in 2024. Not going to be easy, but if he gets the nom he will lose by a wider margin than last time. and Fuck trump.

CNN generated a lot of opposition video to use against Trump in the next campaign.

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Captain Ron  May 10, 2023 • 6:38:35pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 6:40:24pm

The hail has arrived here.

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Captain Ron  May 10, 2023 • 6:40:54pm
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William Lewis  May 10, 2023 • 6:41:49pm

re: #86 darthstar

Or a possible solution to the royal family’s hereditary issues. Prince William looks as old as his father and has the same hair. Prince Henry looks like Diana had at least one good night before she died…

Same hair is actually the oddity - normally that skips generations and is also in the mitochondrial DNA passed down the mothers side…

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Belafon  May 10, 2023 • 6:42:03pm

re: #98 Captain Ron

CNN would like to see how much lower they can go in the ratings.

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Nerdy Fish  May 10, 2023 • 6:42:07pm

re: #98 Captain Ron

Criticizing the concept of fact-checking, because facts are anathema to these ghouls. They’re angry that there was a period of time, all too brief, where they weren’t allowed to just say whatever bullshit they wanted and get away with it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 6:42:16pm
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Romantic Heretic  May 10, 2023 • 6:43:21pm

re: #38 The Pie Overlord!

Collins: Why should Americans put you back in the White House?

Festering anal polyp: Because if they don’t I’ll have my cult burn this place to the fucking ground! You may hate as long as you also fear.

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jaunte  May 10, 2023 • 6:43:52pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It looks busy up there.

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Barefoot Grin  May 10, 2023 • 6:43:54pm

re: #98 Captain Ron

Out of morbid curiosity I turned on CNN and saw that. Fuck CNN for trying to both-sides this.

I’ve probably posted 10 times about this, but too bad. I went to Trump’s first rally in Derry, NH. It was the same fucking people in the crowd tonight. Of course this horseshit was going to happen.

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austin_blue  May 10, 2023 • 6:44:04pm

I’ll tell you what will tell you if the Dems have capitulated to the Rs. The Debt Ceiling vote.

If the D’s do anything other than telling the R’s to take a flying fuck at a rolling donut, we are done as a Representative Democracy, and Katy bar the door for our future.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 10, 2023 • 6:44:13pm

re: #15 The Pie Overlord!

Remember CNN just said this. They have gone completely over to the bad side.

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I refused to watch CNN’s tongue bath of Orange Foolius. Reading the comments only confirms what I expected it would be. It was Charlottesville without the tiki torches.

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William Lewis  May 10, 2023 • 6:44:51pm

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austin_blue  May 10, 2023 • 6:48:51pm

re: #108 William Lewis

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I was thinking forty, more appropriate, but whatevah…

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Captain Ron  May 10, 2023 • 6:50:43pm
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darthstar  May 10, 2023 • 6:51:11pm
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Belafon  May 10, 2023 • 6:52:33pm

re: #108 William Lewis

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My son supposedly has a $240 high school book due. He says a lot of AP students seem to have one. He has to find out tomorrow which one it is,

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 10, 2023 • 6:52:57pm

Did I ever tell you about the former president who taught his asshole how to talk?

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No Malarkey!  May 10, 2023 • 6:54:01pm

Never watching CNN again.

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austin_blue  May 10, 2023 • 6:55:12pm

re: #114 No Malarkey!

Never watching CNN again.

Well, I don’t have Cable, so…

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Nerdy Fish  May 10, 2023 • 6:55:12pm

re: #114 No Malarkey!

Never watching CNN again.

No, CNN, you didn’t win anything. You lost, too. You sold what little integrity you had left to enable the most dangerous men in America. If Republicans regain power, this country is OVER. Full stop. And YOU helped.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 6:56:46pm

re: #104 jaunte

It looks busy up there.

It is.

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Charles Johnson  May 10, 2023 • 6:56:52pm

That was some fucked-up shit.

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austin_blue  May 10, 2023 • 6:56:53pm

Oh, here’s a foreign review of the lies, prevarications, and stretches:

Mastodon

theguardian.com

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 10, 2023 • 6:57:51pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

Charles it wasn’t just fucked up.
It was fucked down
It was fucked all around.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 10, 2023 • 6:58:00pm
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 10, 2023 • 6:58:26pm

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BeenHereAwhile  May 10, 2023 • 6:59:10pm
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jaunte  May 10, 2023 • 6:59:20pm

CNN exemplifies the media addiction to the horserace. If it looks like there isn’t going to be much of one, they’ll push on the scale and create it.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 10, 2023 • 7:00:12pm

re: #122 Dangerman

As I’ve posted repeatedly the Corporate Controlled Conservative Press is not your friend.

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Dave In Austin  May 10, 2023 • 7:00:43pm

Nova was about the Tonga Volcano. Excellent show tonight. My BP stayed normal and I learned a few things.

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EPR-radar  May 10, 2023 • 7:04:29pm

re: #124 jaunte

CNN exemplifies the media addiction to the horserace. If it looks like there isn’t going to be much of one, they’ll push on the scale and create it.

Yeah, if the US political media were sent back in time to Weimar Germany, they would have supported Nazis just the way they now support Republicans.

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Belafon  May 10, 2023 • 7:04:59pm

All I can say about the shit the media is pulling right now to help Republicans: It still won’t be enough.

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Barefoot Grin  May 10, 2023 • 7:05:47pm

I love this: Hakeem Jeffries on Lawrence O’Donnell just now:

“A party that believes…shamelessness is a superpower….”

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jaunte  May 10, 2023 • 7:06:46pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 7:10:15pm

Vox, August 26, 2022

Why billionaire John Malone’s shadow looms over CNN

“One of the world’s most powerful news outlets has a new mandate — which happens to sync with the views of one of the world’s richest men.”

How Malone views FOX as the gold standard of libertarian journalism, and how he wants to remake CNN into a larger libertarian FOX.

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jaunte  May 10, 2023 • 7:11:52pm

How is a ‘libertarian FOX’ not just the original flavor with a superfluous adjective?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  May 10, 2023 • 7:12:58pm
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silverdolphin  May 10, 2023 • 7:15:37pm

It is supposed to be close or over 90 begining this weekend. So I spent the afternoon untangling one just to find out it had major which had holes in it. I then spent the rest of the time unrolling a new hose which should have been easy but had developed a lot of kinks.

I’ll do some watering tomorrow., I am really sore. Icing my legs helps.

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Captain Ron  May 10, 2023 • 7:15:39pm
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austin_blue  May 10, 2023 • 7:18:29pm

Team Trump got a big win tonight.

Millions of MAGATs got wet or got big stiffies watching the bogus “show”.

That happened because a purportedly neutral news network absolutely defenestrated its neutrality, fell twenty stories to the sidewalk, and splattered itself across the length and breadth of America to make a few bucks.

The stockholders may be happy, but Lady Liberty is crying into her sleeve. It’s a horrible day for America.

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Captain Ron  May 10, 2023 • 7:23:50pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 7:26:55pm

Olive Oil Prices Are Soaring—Here’s Why (Weather Channel, video, 0:47)

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  May 10, 2023 • 7:29:08pm

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Patricia Kayden  May 10, 2023 • 7:30:30pm

re: #133 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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EPR-radar  May 10, 2023 • 7:31:21pm

re: #136 austin_blue

The mainstream US political media has thoroughly lost all claim to effectively being a 4th branch of government. Instead, they are mostly acting as a cog in the right wing death machine.

If the idea of truth being able to overcome lies in the marketplace of ideas is to work in practice, it will be essential to have at least one major US political media operation that is consistently devoted to telling the truth about Republicans.

So far, that’s not even being attempted.

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teleskiguy  May 10, 2023 • 7:32:10pm
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Joe Bacon ✅  May 10, 2023 • 7:32:35pm

re: #141 EPR-radar

Need any more evidence that the CCCP is all in for Trump?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 7:34:54pm

re: #137 Captain Ron

Every time he posts, a whole lot of fragile conservatives come out to scold his coarse language. Snowflakes.

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jaunte  May 10, 2023 • 7:35:22pm
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EPR-radar  May 10, 2023 • 7:35:37pm

re: #143 Joe Bacon

Need any more evidence that the CCCP is all in for Trump?

To be more precise, they are all in for Republicans. That means they are all in for Trump as long as Trump is the GOP.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 10, 2023 • 7:35:58pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 7:36:55pm

re: #139 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

That looks like my telephone bill.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 10, 2023 • 7:39:20pm

re: #136 austin_blue

Team Trump got a big win tonight.

Millions of MAGATs got wet or got big stiffies watching the bogus “show”.

That happened because a purportedly neutral news network absolutely defenestrated its neutrality, fell twenty stories to the sidewalk, and splattered itself across the length and breadth of America to make a few bucks.

The stockholders may be happy, but Lady Liberty is crying into her sleeve. It’s a horrible day for America.

And their ratings will continue to slide. The Fox nuts will not switch to CNN. The non-nuts will see CNN as having sold their soul to the right-wing and will not watch them either.

The CNN lede that Trump was going to start acting like a serious political candidate did not age well and was farcical the moment they put it out there.

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teleskiguy  May 10, 2023 • 7:39:43pm

I just watched all of PBS’s documentary on Clarence and Ginni Thomas.

That union has fucked up American civil society for decades to come. And they are TRUE BELIEVERS, they think their path in life was chosen by God and that everything will be all right.

*spit*

I’m embarrassed to be an American.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 7:41:45pm

Conservatives who like to smoke weed, part off-the-charts:

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immigrant  May 10, 2023 • 7:43:27pm

re: #139 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

The ‘SDG&E Electric Delivery’ line. Sheesh!

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EPR-radar  May 10, 2023 • 7:43:50pm

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Literal clown honking noises are more coherent than this Libertarian drivel.

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EPR-radar  May 10, 2023 • 7:45:50pm

re: #152 immigrant

How else are the utilities going to pay for the wildfires caused by their transmission networks? God forbid the executives not be able to buy their 20th yachts.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 10, 2023 • 7:46:18pm

re: #149 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And their ratings will continue to slide. The Fox nuts will not switch to CNN. The non-nuts will see CNN as having sold their soul to the right-wing and will not watch them either.

The CNN lede that Trump was going to start acting like a serious political candidate did not age well and was farcical the moment they put it out there.

They’re still flogging “the pivot”?

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 10, 2023 • 7:46:20pm

re: #153 EPR-radar

Literal clown honking noises are more coherent than this Libertarian drivel.

Memories of the Pitt Econ department in 1975 when a faction totally embraced libertarianism and there was a debate between disciples of Murray Rothbard’s Anarcho-Capitalists and John Hospers Minarchists. Rothbard saying that true justice can only be achieved using private tribunals scared the shit out of me…

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BlueSpotinAL ✅  May 10, 2023 • 7:47:55pm

After the CNN bullshit abdication of journalistic responsibility, a palate cleanser:

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austin_blue  May 10, 2023 • 7:48:27pm

re: #149 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And their ratings will continue to slide. The Fox nuts will not switch to CNN. The non-nuts will see CNN as having sold their soul to the right-wing and will not watch them either.

The CNN lede that Trump was going to start acting like a serious political candidate did not age well and was farcical the moment they put it out there.

Well this is the thing, isn’t it?

There’s an old Texas Progressive trope that says “If you are running a Conservative Democrat against a Republican, the Republican will win every time.”

It’s true. It’s why CNN shot itself in the foot today.

Mindless marketing.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 10, 2023 • 7:50:02pm

re: #146 EPR-radar

To be more precise, they are all in for Republicans. That means they are all in for Trump as long as Trump is the GOP.

They’re all in for pushing capitalism back into feudalism and will dance with anyone that helps that along.

Which, inversely, is exactly why the GOP is wagging their ass at Russia: all the shit they want is neofeudal and thus petrostate dictatorships are aspirational.

They don’t need to collude because they’re the same thing with only aesthetic distinctions.

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EPR-radar  May 10, 2023 • 7:56:26pm

re: #156 Joe Bacon

Memories of the Pitt Econ department in 1975 when a faction totally embraced libertarianism and there was a debate between disciples of Murray Rothbard’s Anarcho-Capitalists and John Hospers Minarchists. Rothbard saying that true justice can only be achieved using private tribunals scared the shit out of me…

Rothbard was the freak who thought it perfectly moral for a parent to let their infant die of starvation or other neglect, and that it would be ‘immoral’ for a state (or any other outside agency) to have laws against shit like that.

The man was an idiot.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 10, 2023 • 8:00:00pm

re: #160 EPR-radar

Rothbard was the freak who thought it perfectly moral for a parent to let their infant die of starvation or other neglect, and that it would be ‘immoral’ for a state (or any other outside agency) to have laws against shit like that.

The man was an idiot.

Rothbard also was a hard core racist repeatedly stating that Blacks and Hispanics are inferior races.

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William Lewis  May 10, 2023 • 8:01:26pm

NPR is hardly perfect but, this headline is the only sane one in the US tonight:

Trump continues lies about election and lashes out after N.Y. verdict in town hall

In his first media appearance since being found liable for sexual abuse and defamation to the tune of $5 million, former President Trump defensively lashed out once again, as he typically does when he disagrees with something or his back is against the wall politically.

“This woman — I don’t know her. I never met her. I have no idea who she is,” Trump claimed of the writer E. Jean Carroll, who brought the civil suit against him in New York, during a CNN town hall in New Hampshire.

Carroll accused Trump of raping her in the fitting room of an upscale Manhattan department store in the 1990s. A jury stopped short of saying it believed there was a preponderance of evidence to show rape occurred, but did say there was enough for battery and sexual abuse.

Clearly, the whopping sum awarded to Carroll has not cowed Trump, who mocked Carroll, referring to her as a “whack job.” Trump was seen in a picture with Carroll, one that came up in a taped deposition that was shown to the New York jury. Trump said Carroll was not his “type,” but when shown the photo, he confused Carroll for his second wife, Marla Maples.

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William Lewis  May 10, 2023 • 8:02:41pm

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Conservatives who like to smoke weed, part off-the-charts:

Scratch a Libertarian find a Nazi part 150,525,323

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austin_blue  May 10, 2023 • 8:03:15pm

And adios dear lizards, have a lovely evening and sweet scaly dreams.

I had the early shift today in the Denver Airport Basement and just got off.

Ooh, that last bit sounded kind of dirty.

Sorry!

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silverdolphin  May 10, 2023 • 8:05:14pm

What the New Poll Favoring Trump Got Wrong and the Pundits Missed

Add ABC to CNN. They used a skewed poll and shady processes to get Trump to lead Biden. Bad journalism

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 10, 2023 • 8:06:09pm

re: #165 silverdolphin

What the New Poll Favoring Trump Got Wrong and the Pundits Missed

Add ABC to CNN. They used a skewed poll and shady processes to get Trump to lead Biden. Bad journalism

Bad journalism? Totally expected from Presstitutes!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 8:08:21pm
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William Lewis  May 10, 2023 • 8:09:24pm

Ah, an old Soviet classic repurposed in the new century…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 10, 2023 • 8:14:10pm

I was going to rant about my cow orkers. But then I realized it is a hurdle too high compared to the politics.

So, everyone have a great evening.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 8:16:44pm

re: #169 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I was going to rant about my cow orkers. But then I realized it is a hurdle too high compared to the politics.

So, everyone have a great evening.

“Cow orkers”: a cross between pigs and cows.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 10, 2023 • 8:16:49pm

And Kate needs to up her game as the new Bat

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 10, 2023 • 8:19:10pm

re: #170 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Cow orkers”: a cross between pigs and cows.

I was going with more ‘loud cows.’ But your interpretation works well, too.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 8:25:32pm

...

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retired cynic  May 10, 2023 • 8:26:00pm

Terrific article, and I hope her team wins.

Where to Find the Energy to Save the World
Jamie Beard is pouring everything into a singular vision: Tap into the awesome potential of geothermal power in Texas, and beyond. She has no time to lose.
wired.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 8:26:06pm

re: #173 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Oops, deleted.

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retired cynic  May 10, 2023 • 8:27:33pm

Gorgeous.
Tom Hegen’s Aerial Photos of Spanish Olive Groves Reveal Undulating Patterns and Deep Traditions

Mastodon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 8:29:57pm

All tornado and severe thunderstorm warnings in our area have expired. A flash flood warning was issued for the South Platte River from the Colorado state line to the junction of the North Platte River. A flood watch is in effect from the Wyoming state line for the North Platte River.

Rain is light now, but will resume with heavy rain and severe thunderstorms tomorrow.

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William Lewis  May 10, 2023 • 8:30:42pm

So a branch of photography I’ve wanted to learn for years is macro. It seems that I’m going to start learning how to do Macro photography finally :D

I Found a SCREAMING deal on a Micro Nikkor AI 55/3.5 & PK-13 1:1 extension tube on Eprey. I put it in the list for Friday payday. Then this morning I got an offer from the seller for 22% off. I offered back say the price was fine if he was willing to wait for me to pay on Friday payday. An hour later I get the notice from Eprey that I’ve agreed to buy the lens :D

Lens + extension tube - good for 1:1 reproduction:

Stupid cheap: $62 for both in Exquisite condition. As I said, I’ve been wanting to learn Macro for awhile. Now I have no excuse for up to 1:1 LOL! You’ll probably be getting some bug, flower, toy car & etc photos mixed in with my usual landscapes LOL!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 8:32:15pm

The reason we’re getting stomped with severe weather.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 8:39:38pm
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Belafon  May 10, 2023 • 8:45:42pm

My son was telling me that the head of Discover/HBO/whatever is stating that, because of the writers strike, he’s planning on shutting down the Cartoon Network studios, and leaving the network to only run reruns.

He and I were both agreeing that too many wealthy people aren’t liking that the workers aren’t wanting to put up with shit wages and treatment anymore.

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sagehen  May 10, 2023 • 8:57:58pm
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Captain Ron  May 10, 2023 • 9:00:01pm

The FBI responded in a letter Wednesday, with Christopher Dunham, the acting assistant director for congressional affairs, saying that while the FBI was committed to “beginning the constitutionally mandated accommodation process,” it was also bound by Justice Department policy, which “strictly limits when and how confidential human source information can be provided outside of the FBI.”

“Often, even confirming the fact of the existence (or nonexistence) of an investigation or a particular piece of investigative information can risk these serious harms,” Dunham wrote, adding that it was “standard practice” for law enforcement agencies to decline to confirm or deny such facts.

Comer blasted the FBI’s response.

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William Lewis  May 10, 2023 • 9:01:02pm

My dad noticed my sticker on the truck today. It says “A Socialist is a Liberal Who Means It.”

His comment was “I’ll have to think about that.” He’s a good dem so I figure it’s just a matter of processing it ;)

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teleskiguy  May 10, 2023 • 9:03:13pm

I’ve learned how to remove a screw after a screw head breaks off at the ski company. I’m getting better!

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teleskiguy  May 10, 2023 • 9:07:01pm

It’s all about the pilot hole you drill. That’s the hardest part.

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Targetpractice  May 10, 2023 • 9:11:27pm

re: #181 Belafon

My son was telling me that the head of Discover/HBO/whatever is stating that, because of the writers strike, he’s planning on shutting down the Cartoon Network studios, and leaving the network to only run reruns.

He and I were both agreeing that too many wealthy people aren’t liking that the workers aren’t wanting to put up with shit wages and treatment anymore.

It’s more a case that the networks decided that one of the “costs” they could cut in moving to streaming services was paying their writers, insisting on paying them on the TV broadcast standard while they’re ordering new shows that have shorter seasons, fewer seasons, and releasing them in such a haphazard fashion that writers can’t even moonlight on other series without worrying that they’ll be out of the office when the new season starts.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 9:16:32pm

Your healthcare on capitalism.

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William Lewis  May 10, 2023 • 9:17:48pm

Current mood but it needs BOTH songs… ;)

THE CARS ― MOVING IN STEREO / ALL MIXED UP (1978)

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Targetpractice  May 10, 2023 • 9:19:33pm

So basically CNN answered the question tonight of how Trump could avoid all the costs of holding one of his campaign rally.

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Targetpractice  May 10, 2023 • 9:33:14pm

Time for another semi-regular bit of advice from the fellow at your hotel’s front desk: If you’re just looking for a place to crash for a night or even just a few hours, don’t aim for anything higher than “has beds” on the advertising blurb. If the hotel’s bit on whatever site you’re looking at includes things like “full kitchens,” “pool & jacuzzi,” “hot breakfast,” or anything that sounds like it’s intended for people who are planning to stick around, then it’s probably out of your price range.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 9:34:57pm
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Targetpractice  May 10, 2023 • 9:38:15pm

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Don’t you just love when assholes go on social media and try to convince you that their personal grooming preferences and what they find attractive in the opposite sex are both the “natural” way people should live?

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Belafon  May 10, 2023 • 9:46:33pm

re: #184 William Lewis

My dad noticed my sticker on the truck today. It says “A Socialist is a Liberal Who Means It.”

His comment was “I’ll have to think about that.” He’s a good dem so I figure it’s just a matter of processing it ;)

Yell your dad a Democrat is a Socialist who wants to get things done.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 9:47:26pm

re: #193 Targetpractice

Don’t you just love when assholes go on social media and try to convince you that their personal grooming preferences and what they find attractive in the opposite sex are both the “natural” way people should live?

Plus said asshole keeps citing the same 1 Corinthians Bible verse to justify his statement.

If “nature” wanted men to have short hair, men couldn’t grow long hair. See every other critter in nature with short hair.

I think he’s jealous because he’s mostly bald.

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Belafon  May 10, 2023 • 9:50:02pm

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More proof Jesus was a woman.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 9:53:21pm

re: #197 Belafon

More proof Jesus was a woman.

He’s making arguments in the thread that Jesus is depicted incorrectly and had short hair. (Never mind Jesus is described as a rabbi and would have followed Jewish law about hair.)

When called out on Sampson, he makes exceptions for him.

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jaunte  May 10, 2023 • 9:53:43pm

Don’t take grooming advice from anyone who thinks this is a good look.

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retired cynic  May 10, 2023 • 9:54:26pm

re: #199 jaunte

gah… he’s not my type

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jaunte  May 10, 2023 • 9:55:20pm

Hipster top, Bowery bottom.

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EPR-radar  May 10, 2023 • 9:56:16pm

re: #199 jaunte

It could be worse — e.g., a full-head circle beard, which indeed looks just as revolting as you would think.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 9:56:42pm

re: #200 retired cynic

gah… he’s not my type

He’s the sort if I see him walking down the street toward me, I cross the street.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 9:56:50pm

(1:40)

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William Lewis  May 10, 2023 • 9:58:27pm

re: #191 Targetpractice

Time for another semi-regular bit of advice from the fellow at your hotel’s front desk: If you’re just looking for a place to crash for a night or even just a few hours, don’t aim for anything higher than “has beds” on the advertising blurb. If the hotel’s bit on whatever site you’re looking at includes things like “full kitchens,” “pool & jacuzzi,” “hot breakfast,” or anything that sounds like it’s intended for people who are planning to stick around, then it’s probably out of your price range.

Oy fuck yes. And if our place has a RESTAURANT in house please don’t be surprised when we don’t offer a free breakfast. They need to make their money - hint hint hint…

Yeah, as summer has been getting closer, that’s been getting bigger. Going over to Express will be nice in that respect. Shrug. Overnight makes it easier too.

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Targetpractice  May 10, 2023 • 9:59:21pm

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Plus said asshole keeps citing the same 1 Corinthians Bible verse to justify his statement.

If “nature” wanted men to have short hair, men couldn’t grow long hair. See every other critter in nature with short hair.

I think he’s jealous because he’s mostly bald.

“Natural” is pretty much synonymous with “traditional” in these instances, the idea that your idealized look/life is what everybody should strive for rather than your personal preference. Sort of like how you hear incels will moan that “no women” want to fuck them, but when you actually listen for a bit you realize that “no women” is really short for “no women who meet my criteria of looks, personality, and IQ” want to fuck them.

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Targetpractice  May 10, 2023 • 10:02:39pm

re: #205 William Lewis

Oy fuck yes. And if our place has a RESTAURANT in house please don’t be surprised when we don’t offer a free breakfast. They need to make their money - hint hint hint…

Yeah, as summer has been getting closer, that’s been getting bigger. Going over to Express will be nice in that respect. Shrug. Overnight makes it easier too.

Yeah, one of the bits that still gets me was when we were sold from Marriott to a new chain, we were told that the breakfast bar would not be coming back and we were moving to a “grab and go” breakfast system of shelf-stable items along with fresh coffee.

The reasoning we were told? “They have kitchens in every room, so if they want a hot breakfast, they can cook it for themselves.” While I can’t argue with the logic, it doesn’t stop all the bitching from guests who think every hotel offers a continental breakfast as standard.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 10:07:10pm

Not a drag queen.

This is a real insurance company.

Abuse and Molestation Liability Insurance (Goes to Ministry Insured)

No one likes to think about the possibility of a situation involving improper behavior or sexual misconduct against a parishioner, especially a minor. However, it is hard to escape the reality that these types of lawsuits are becoming more prevalent and more public.

With educational and financial resources being devoted to helping victims come forward there is ever increasing vigilance regarding this very sensitive issue. While churches are often among the first responders to offer compassion and counseling to victims and their families, they are also often at greater risk than other types of organizations, simply because of the large network of volunteers and the wide variety of activities that they sponsor for youth and children.

There is no other insurance policy or coverage that will protect an organization when a lawsuit for sexual misconduct is brought against it.

(more)

Has a contact page for a quote if your church needs child molestation insurance.

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William Lewis  May 10, 2023 • 10:07:42pm

re: #207 Targetpractice

Yeah, one of the bits that still gets me was when we were sold from Marriott to a new chain, we were told that the breakfast bar would not be coming back and we were moving to a “grab and go” breakfast system of shelf-stable items along with fresh coffee.

The reasoning we were told? “They have kitchens in every room, so if they want a hot breakfast, they can cook it for themselves.” While I can’t argue with the logic, it doesn’t stop all the bitching from guests who think every hotel offers a continental breakfast as standard.

Oh, crap, I can understand them expecting it there more than in my old place. The restaurant was a separate biz so they had to make their own numbers,.

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EPR-radar  May 10, 2023 • 10:08:29pm

re: #204 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It is funny to see how the fashion for glasses shifts over time. Now we’re apparently in a phase where glasses that look like two glass dinner plates are in style.

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William Lewis  May 10, 2023 • 10:10:06pm

At least over at the express I’m going to, there’s a breakfast person every day. I don’t have to worry about it. No shoving receipts under doors either doors, thank god (99 rooms ;) )

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Targetpractice  May 10, 2023 • 10:10:55pm

re: #209 William Lewis

Oh, crap, I can understand them expecting it there more than in my old place. The restaurant was a separate biz so they had to make their own numbers,.

Yeah, the last place I worked did the same biz, adding a restaurant as part of the renovations to become a Four Points by Sheraton franchise location. Which inevitably led to more than one cheap asshole thinking that a “free breakfast” at the restaurant was part of the basic rental package and getting upset when told that if they wanted food they had to pay for it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 10:11:40pm

re: #207 Targetpractice

Yeah, one of the bits that still gets me was when we were sold from Marriott to a new chain, we were told that the breakfast bar would not be coming back and we were moving to a “grab and go” breakfast system of shelf-stable items along with fresh coffee.

The reasoning we were told? “They have kitchens in every room, so if they want a hot breakfast, they can cook it for themselves.” While I can’t argue with the logic, it doesn’t stop all the bitching from guests who think every hotel offers a continental breakfast as standard.

I don’t go to hotels to cook my own meals. I can do that at home.

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William Lewis  May 10, 2023 • 10:15:26pm

re: #212 Targetpractice

Yeah, the last place I worked did the same biz, adding a restaurant as part of the renovations to become a Four Points by Sheraton franchise location. Which inevitably led to more than one cheap asshole thinking that a “free breakfast” at the restaurant was part of the basic rental package and getting upset when told that if they wanted food they had to pay for it.

Those fucks were always ones I enjoyed saying “I am very sorry sir, I’m not sure who misinformed you, but they are not part of our hotel so I can’t help you. They do serve off the menu, which is quite reasonable and very tasty.”

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Acemarilllion (yes, three 'l's)  May 10, 2023 • 10:16:42pm

apologies if i scrolled too fast and these things have been addressed!

I am pretty darn high (i would like to think a better term might be ‘toasted’)

I just watched the CNN Town Hall start to finish.

Ho-leee shit.

Fat Donny from Queens (love them greasy coiffed ‘wings’) …

Naaah, i have to move on to other things, but HOLY SHIT.

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Targetpractice  May 10, 2023 • 10:18:26pm

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I don’t go to hotels to cook my own meals. I can do that at home.

Reason I say I can’t argue is because the people usually bitching are the fly-by-nighters who booked a long-term stay hotel which is geared towards people who are expecting to be in a location for weeks or months at a time but not permanently enough to sign a rental lease. We’re geared towards taking care of people who stop by in the morning to grab a muffin and fill up their coffee mug, not tourists who are here for a weekend and will spend most of their food money on fast food or delivery before heading home anyway.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 10:30:27pm

Americans United for Separation of Church and State, April 20, 2023

Some Republicans have suggested recently this data should be collected in the Census.

When, Where, How And If You Worship Is None Of The Government’s Business

In 1790, officials with the fledgling U.S. government proposed taking a census, in part to determine what sort of jobs people in America were doing. Initially, they wanted to include clergy.

James Madison took alarm. A government attempt to count the number of religious leaders could, he warned, lead to entanglement between church and state.

“As to those who are employed in teaching and inculcating the duties of religion, there may be some indelicacy in singling them out, as the general government is proscribed from interfering, in any manner whatever, in matters respecting religion; and it may be thought to do this, in ascertaining who are and who are not ministers of the gospel,” Madison told his colleagues in the House of Representatives.
No List Of Religions

That Madisonian spirit lived on, and the official U.S. Census has traditionally not asked Americans about their religious affiliation. A recent article on the website of the Pew Forum goes into some detail about this issue, noting that government officials have cited church-state separation as a reason not to question Americans about their faith or lack thereof.

“After public debate over the issue in the 1960s and ’70s, the Census Bureau’s director, Vincent P. Barabba, announced in April 1976 that there would be no question on religion in the upcoming 1980 census, on the grounds that ‘asking such a question in the decennial census, in which replies are mandatory, would appear to infringe upon the traditional separation of church and [s]tate,’” the article notes. “He added, ‘Regardless of whether this perception is legally sound, controversy on this very sensitive issue could affect public cooperation in the census and thus jeopardize the success of the census.’”

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Targetpractice  May 10, 2023 • 10:39:06pm

re: #217 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Americans United for Separation of Church and State, April 20, 2023

Some Republicans have suggested recently this data should be collected in the Census.

When, Where, How And If You Worship Is None Of The Government’s Business

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Republicans don’t want the government to know if you have a gun or how many, but they do want the government to know if you pray and who to.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 10:39:31pm

re: #216 Targetpractice

Reason I say I can’t argue is because the people usually bitching are the fly-by-nighters who booked a long-term stay hotel which is geared towards people who are expecting to be in a location for weeks or months at a time but not permanently enough to sign a rental lease. We’re geared towards taking care of people who stop by in the morning to grab a muffin and fill up their coffee mug, not tourists who are here for a weekend and will spend most of their food money on fast food or delivery before heading home anyway.

Okay. So-called extended stay hotels or motels are a different market than typical hotels and motels.

I have stayed in one or two extended-stay motels, but they were right next door to restaurants so getting breakfast wasn’t a particular problem.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 10:40:56pm

The thunderstorm risk for today has been increased again.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 10:46:22pm

Same bearded douchecanoe above.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 10:48:46pm
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teleskiguy  May 10, 2023 • 10:53:19pm

I sent an order to Switzerland today, dude ordered $250 worth of parts! I was amused. Springs and screws this dude ordered. Okay?

Dude has ordered from us six times prior.

It’s all good.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 10:57:26pm

re: #223 teleskiguy

I sent an order to Switzerland today, dude ordered $250 worth of parts! I was amused. Springs and screws this dude ordered. Okay?

Dude has ordered from us six times prior.

It’s all good.

Is he trying to start his own ski repair company with you as the supplier?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 10:57:32pm
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mmmirele  May 10, 2023 • 10:59:03pm

Long thread (23 tweets) from Leah Remini reporting on Scientology obtaining defense discovery materials. In a *criminal case*.

The final tweet is a commentary on the same press which reported on every cough and sneeze at the Heard/Depp trial is nowhere to be found at the Danny Masterson rape trial.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 10, 2023 • 11:37:53pm
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Dr Lizardo  May 10, 2023 • 11:46:02pm

re: #227 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Is that the Japanese version of The Lawrence Welk Show or something?

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William Lewis  May 10, 2023 • 11:57:33pm

Motherfuck… I have a print of the Wright brother’s photo of their first flight.

Beautiful.

Tonight? CRASH. The bits are out, the rest are happy to take a No Matter What …

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 10, 2023 • 11:59:23pm

re: #226 mmmirele

Long thread (23 tweets) from Leah Remini reporting on Scientology obtaining defense discovery materials. In a *criminal case*.

The final tweet is a commentary on the same press which reported on every cough and sneeze at the Heard/Depp trial is nowhere to be found at the Danny Masterson rape trial.

Scientologists are already all over that thread smearing her and deflecting.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 12:16:19am

re: #221 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Acceptable occasions to wear yoga pants…

Alone in your house w/ your husband.

Working out alone in your private gym while your husband watches you.

The end.

No public venues. Not social media.

Now I have a personal fashion rule (one of my few hard-and-fast rules) that any form of training gear (including sweat pants) is only to worn when out actively training or at least on the way to or from.

(I had this rule long before Karl Lagerfeld made his famous comment about people who wear training gear)

But that is my personal choice, I am not about to impose it on anyone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 12:17:15am

re: #228 Dr Lizardo

Is that the Japanese version of The Lawrence Welk Show or something?

Rarwence Werk

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 12:27:08am
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IngisKahn  May 11, 2023 • 12:29:25am

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Rarwence Werk

Would probably be closer to Raarensu Ueruku

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 12:31:06am

re: #234 IngisKahn

Would probably be closer to Raarensu Ueruku

My buddy once bought himself a Maruchi Tereku Kasetu Rekoda,
which was the Japanese Kanji reading of
Multi-Track Casette Recorder

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 11, 2023 • 12:31:26am

re: #228 Dr Lizardo

It was one of a great many Japanese music shows. Music and musical variety and cabaret shows were quite the staple of Japanese TV.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 11, 2023 • 12:33:19am

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Captain Ron  May 11, 2023 • 12:35:26am

re: #233 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One Tokugawa over the Line

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Video

“A modern spiritual by Dale and Gale”

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Captain Ron  May 11, 2023 • 12:40:24am
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Captain Ron  May 11, 2023 • 12:42:21am
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Captain Ron  May 11, 2023 • 12:45:28am

Kinda like the Supreme Court?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 12:53:03am

re: #238 Captain Ron

“A modern spiritual by Dale and Gale”

It does invoke Jesus and Mary.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 12:55:52am

re: #241 Captain Ron

I’m glad to see people recognize, after far too long, that corporate “mainstream media” has, in general, no real credibility, no loyalty to America, and generally malign intentions.

They key word is “corporate”, and this is the very point: their job is to make money for stockholders, not display any loyalty to America, and its intentions, as long as their intentions are legal, they are irrelevant as long as they serve the goal of increasing profits.

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Captain Ron  May 11, 2023 • 12:57:43am
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Captain Ron  May 11, 2023 • 12:59:45am

heh

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 11, 2023 • 1:03:38am

Is anyone else having trouble reaching some major websites?

I can’t get to google search (or any google stuff) and Twitter is taking forever to load.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 1:24:01am

Tucker Carlson joining Twitter: one of those rare examples of rats climbing onto a sinking ship.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2023 • 1:24:50am

The New York Times is trying to rehabilitate Kyrsten Sinema.

New York Times And Kyrsten Sinema Team Up For Whatever This Foul Sh*t Is (Wonkette, May 10, 2023)

The New York Times wasted valuable space recently on a puff piece for a narcissistic sociopath who has screwed over millions of people. No, I’m not talking about the Elizabeth Holmes profile, although that was pretty bad. I mean the Sunday Magazine feature on Sen. Kyrsten Sinema of the Sinema Party: “Kyrsten Sinema’s Party Of One” (sounds like one of the many late ’90s knockoffs of “Sex and the City,” but this is one I don’t want to watch).

Sinema spent most of her first term refusing to speak with the press or even her own constituents. (Although pro-Sinema ads have run on Facebook that appeared as if they were from imaginary publication The Desert Recap.) Now she’s started chasing down media outlets like they’re speeding ambulances. This is a blatant attempt to improve her public image, which is awful, but not even the most flattering Vanity Fair-style coverage can help you when you say crap like this:

During our second meeting, at a coffee shop in Southeast Washington in March, she was running five minutes behind. Her scheduler, she explained, had earlier calculated one of the day’s drives as 10 minutes when it was in fact 15.

“So, to a regular person, this probably sounds insane,” Sinema said. “But I need those five minutes. I have something planned for those five minutes. I don’t waste five minutes. I know that is unusual. That is how I’ve always been.”

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Targetpractice  May 11, 2023 • 2:12:35am

re: #248 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The New York Times is trying to rehabilitate Kyrsten Sinema.

New York Times And Kyrsten Sinema Team Up For Whatever This Foul Sh*t Is (Wonkette, May 10, 2023)

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I find hilarious the suggestion that Sinema might join Manchin as one-half of the two-headed monster that could be a theoretical “No Labels” ballot next year. The only way I see that happening is if Manchin somehow fails to win the WV Dem primary next year, something that’s pretty unlikely despite how much many of the party would like to toss his wrinkled ass into a burning coal seam and then bury it behind him. And even then, just how much appeal do people feel that the two most transparently crooked “moderates” in the party would have outside of “independents” who hate Trump but can’t bear to tell the others at the country club that they voted for Biden?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 11, 2023 • 2:13:24am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 2:19:52am

So just a brief glimpse of the news indicates that the DJT Town Hall was just an exercise in ass-polishing and ensuring continued access on the part of CNN.

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No Malarkey!  May 11, 2023 • 2:20:48am

re: #74 I Would Prefer Not To

I still believe that when trumps brags about sexual assault it hurts him with women and younger voters. He’s going to lose in 2024. Not going to be easy, but if he gets the nom he will lose by a wider margin than last time. and Fuck trump.

He knows. Trump expects GOP state legislatures to reject Biden victories due to “voter fraud” and award their electors to him, no matter how badly he loses.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 11, 2023 • 2:21:20am

re: #199 jaunte

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Don’t take grooming advice from anyone who thinks this is a good look.

When I had an untrimmed beard and a short haircut I described it as my “terrorist look”. It was a combo that happened pretty rarely.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 2:22:21am

re: #252 No Malarkey!

He knows. Trump expects GOP state legislatures to reject Biden victories due to “voter fraud” and award their electors to him, no matter how badly he loses.

That has been their plan ever since Pence choked for them in the clutch.

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No Malarkey!  May 11, 2023 • 2:23:41am

re: #83 William Lewis

Only if he was targeted really.

Only in the sense that Russia’s entire war in Ukraine is a crime, so every killing Russia commits is a war crime.

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Targetpractice  May 11, 2023 • 2:27:06am

re: #251 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So just a brief glimpse of the news indicates that the DJT Town Hall was just an exercise in ass-polishing and ensuring continued access on the part of CNN.

If it had been an actual “town hall,” with an audience chosen at random or at least from a local community, with a moderator who would have kept Trump on-topic and allowed follow-up questions, then it might have had a sliver of value.

Of course, we all know such an event would never have happened because as soon as Donny was told he wasn’t getting a fawning audience there to take turn licking his taint while the whole thing was “moderated” by a sock puppet masquerading as a reporter, he’d have backed out while screeching like a vampire exposed to the dawn light.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 2:30:03am

So meanwhile, from newsmax, it is the fault of a corrupt FBI for “withholding” evidence against Biden:

“Comer, Grassley Lambast FBI
for Withholding a Key Biden Doc”

So they are changing their tack to “it exists but the Corrupt Deep State won’t let us get to it”. Just like all the proof of massive 2020 voter fraud.

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Targetpractice  May 11, 2023 • 2:36:55am

re: #257 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So meanwhile, from newsmax, it is the fault of a corrupt FBI for “withholding” evidence against Biden:

“Comer, Grassley Lambast FBI
for Withholding a Key Biden Doc”

So they are changing their tack to “it exists but the Corrupt Deep State won’t let us get to it”. Just like all the proof of massive 2020 voter fraud.

Shades of the Great Penis Hunt of the 90s where there was always evidence that would provide the “smoking gun” that would finally crack the whole case wide open, but it was being withheld from them by [insert executive level department/agency] by orders of Bill and/or Hillary.

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No Malarkey!  May 11, 2023 • 2:39:16am

re: #183 Captain Ron

The GOP has to pretend that there is real evidence of Biden corruption, since they are running an adjudicated sexual assailant and indicted criminal defendant against him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 2:41:50am

re: #259 No Malarkey!

The GOP has to pretend that there is real evidence of Biden corruption, since they are running an adjudicated sexual assailant and indicted criminal defendant against him.

They need the tactical end-run of “he didn’t do it and if he did, then everybody else does it too!”

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No Malarkey!  May 11, 2023 • 2:47:38am

re: #184 William Lewis

My dad noticed my sticker on the truck today. It says “A Socialist is a Liberal Who Means It.”

His comment was “I’ll have to think about that.” He’s a good dem so I figure it’s just a matter of processing it ;)

Republicans scream “socialism” at anything that redistributes some of the wealth billionaires extract from the economy toward the public good, but that is just social democracy, which exists in all democracies with a capitalist economic system. “Socialism” is an economic system in which the state owns and operates the means of production, and the GOP wants to confuse the issue so that anything like Medicaid expansion inevitably leads to economic totalitarianism.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2023 • 2:51:00am

re: #261 No Malarkey!

Republicans scream “socialism” at anything that redistributes some of the wealth billionaires extract from the economy toward the public good, but that is just social democracy, which exists in all democracies with a capitalist economic system. “Socialism” is an economic system in which the state owns and operates the means of production, and the GOP wants to confuse the issue so that anything like Medicaid expansion inevitably leads to economic totalitarianism.

More properly, the workers own the means of production.

So a farmers’ co-op is a socialistic entity.

The state can stand in for “workers” in the sense you can elect state officials. Thus my state’s electric utilities are socialistic entities, because the voters can remove the boards in elections and run someone else for the positions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 2:51:15am

Remember: according to Hayek, anything that distracts us from achieving the Capitalist ideal of the completely unregulated Free Market puts us on the Road to Serfdom.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2023 • 2:56:16am

Pictured: Toronto

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TarHellion  May 11, 2023 • 2:58:35am

Got trapped in the spiral and took the bogey. Blaming the putter.

After the fight to get MrsTarH’s CTA scan OK’d, had to battle again to get the increased dosage for the medicine to fight her PBA approved. Just ridiculous the hoops you have to jump through to receive doctor-authorized health care.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2023 • 3:11:58am

LB574 is the gender-affirming care hate bill.

Republicans are attempting to attach the failed abortion ban bill to it as an ornament on a Christmas Tree bill. If that is successful, that means LB574 has to start the whole process over again (committees, readings, &c).

Democrats and independents in the Unicameral believe if the bill comes to a vote as-is it will be defeated.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2023 • 3:17:43am

KETV, Omaha, May 10, 2023

They would rather tear their own families apart than have a school library. Very New Testament-like.

PLATTSMOUTH, Neb. —

People packed the room of a Plattsmouth School District Board meeting Monday voicing support and opposition to a controversial book removal policy.

The high school librarian tells KETV she’s leaving the district because of the policy. The board approved her resignation Monday night.

“I made the difficult decision to leave the district following the events of the last board meeting when the book ‘reviews’ began,” Librarian Christine Knust wrote.

She spoke against the policy at the meeting.

“Why is one person’s belief system more important than others? What will happen next if you accomplish your mission?” Knust said.

Terri Cunningham-Swanson is the Plattsmouth School Board member who crafted the book removal policy.

At the meeting, her own son, D’Shaun Cunningham faced her directly and spoke against it.

“She’s made statements about being against critical race theory, which can be interpreted as also Black history. She has four Black children, myself included. What these bans encourage is a lack of civility. So even within my family, there’s been breakdowns in communication but that’s what the nation is going through,” Cunningham said.

Cunningham-Swanson’s website indicates she’s protecting kids from indoctrination.

Students feel she’s doing the opposite.

(more)

Plattsmouth High School librarian resigns over controversial book policy

“51 books are under review and a dozen have already been pulled from the shelves.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2023 • 3:20:27am

re: #267 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The fifty-one books under censorship review are here.
ketv.com

Most are in the high school library, some are in the middle school library. None are in the elementary school library.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 11, 2023 • 3:21:10am

The California state lotteries are pari-mutuel for draw games.

Sometimes that works in favor of a winner… and sometimes it does not.

Previous draw (8 May) someone got all five white balls and won $3.2M. That is much more than the other states which pay out flat $1M (or $2M for those states with the extra multiplier purchase of $1 per play.)

Last night someone won the 5 white ball pot also. Alas, with only one night of purchases to put into that pot the winner did quite poorly for a win where the odds are 1 in 11,688,054 :

California powerball payouts 10 May

Note the person who won the 4wb + pb line did pretty well (typically other states this would be $10k.)

Me: I won $4. Sigh.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 11, 2023 • 3:23:19am

re: #268 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The fifty-one books under censorship review are here.
ketv.com

Most are in the high school library, some are in the middle school library. None are in the elementary school library.

And I’d bet none of them are required reading in any class.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2023 • 3:23:27am

re: #269 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

But that’s still $4. YOU WON THE LOTTO!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 11, 2023 • 3:24:34am

re: #268 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Slaughterhouse-Five”- Kurt Vonnegut

That’s been a favorite of book bans since it came out.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2023 • 3:25:54am

re: #270 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And I’d bet none of them are required reading in any class.

One isn’t even carried in their library system.

A parent needs to challenge the Bible. Start reading some of the cruel passages from it. The spicy passages. Let the board squirm.

The Utah legislator who was whinging over parents challenging the Bible in one school in that state was tap-dancing all over the place to try to explain “that’s different.”

Nope. Every time one of these ridiculous book bans (and they are driven by Christians) comes up, throw their book in their face. It depicts monstrous behaviour. Make them own it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2023 • 3:30:14am

re: #267 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

One man who’s not from Plattsmouth says he came to support Cunningham-Swanson because she’s a friend.

He says he’s not even sure what the books are about. (my emphasis)

“I actually am not very familiar with the content at all,” Todd Shannon said. “No sane person believes that children should be able to read everything, or watch, or view everything. So we’re just trying to figure out where’s the line.”

The meeting was standing room only Monday. Sixteen people spoke out against the policy, including five students. Seven spoke in favor of it, none of them were students.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 11, 2023 • 3:36:12am

re: #272 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

That’s been a favorite of book bans since it came out.

Late 60s avant-garde literature. Characters from questionable professions treated as actual people. Anti-war sentiments and “patriots” poked fun at. And a main character having sex outside of their marriage. And to a degree I think Vonnegut was trying to rile people up since it was something he did in his works much like Harlan Ellison did.

I did a major kick of reading Vonnegut right around when I graduated high school. Probably something I should do again since I expect an additional 40 years of life experiences would bring a much different perspective to the reading.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2023 • 3:39:20am

In Gretna, Nebr. (suburb of Omaha), the school superintendent has tendered his resignation.

His issue was the school board recently adopted a policy prohibiting teachers or staff from using a student’s preferred pronouns.

Previously there was a recall attempt on three board members due to lack-of-transparency of the board and questionable expenditures. The recall failed to gather sufficient signatures to trigger a special election.

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IngisKahn  May 11, 2023 • 3:40:11am

So, tell me again where the Chinese character for “heart” comes from…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2023 • 3:42:51am

re: #277 IngisKahn

The ones that look like penii?

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Barefoot Grin  May 11, 2023 • 3:44:42am

re: #277 IngisKahn

So, tell me again where the Chinese character for “heart” comes from…

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It’s sometimes translated as “heart-mind” in Japanese. These oracle bone examples make me think it could also be “dick-head.”

(Love seeing the evolution of characters and the different styles that have emerged over the years.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 3:49:45am

re: #275 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Late 60s avant-garde literature. Characters from questionable professions treated as actual people. Anti-war sentiments and “patriots” poked fun at. And a main character having sex outside of their marriage. And to a degree I think Vonnegut was trying to rile people up since it was something he did in his works much like Harlan Ellison did.

I did a major kick of reading Vonnegut right around when I graduated high school. Probably something I should do again since I expect an additional 40 years of life experiences would bring a much different perspective to the reading.

I recently re-read Cat’s Cradle. It is just so pleasing to the eye and even to the ear when you read it out loud.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2023 • 3:54:02am

re: #270 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And I’d bet none of them are required reading in any class.

That’s not the point. Christians don’t want to control just their children, they want to control your children as well. And not just your children, everyone else as well.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 11, 2023 • 3:58:51am

re: #281 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That’s not the point. Christians don’t want to control just their children, they want to control your children as well. And not just your children, everyone else as well.

I’m aware that the point is to try control and prevent other people from reading books they personally do not like. (Or more accurately were told by others not to like since it’s pretty obvious they have never read any of the works themselves.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2023 • 4:03:43am

(2:17)

Hurry up! You only have until July 2!

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Eventual Carrion  May 11, 2023 • 4:08:56am

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Like that Jesus hippie.

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Thanos  May 11, 2023 • 4:10:40am

re: #222 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That’s banana man right?

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 4:12:34am
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Nerdy Fish  May 11, 2023 • 4:16:44am

The eternal week continues apace.

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Grunthos the Flatulent 🇳🇿  May 11, 2023 • 4:18:16am

The Wordle is out there somewhere. Waiting. It knows.

The fifty-fifty was kind.

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Nerdy Fish  May 11, 2023 • 4:23:13am

NPR… Why. This is literally what the Republicans are going to say about this. Why are we using their framing?

Mastodon

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 4:24:39am

And, let’s be clear, Trump and the noxious lies he spews perpetually is the actual problem, so let’s perhaps focus on that. He’s shameless but we don’t have to make him blameless.

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TarHellion  May 11, 2023 • 4:29:05am

re: #287 Nerdy Fish

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 4:30:00am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 4:31:37am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 4:33:59am

The GOP are going to declare “massive voter fraud” in 2024 and throw out millions of legitimate votes without pushback, handing the election to DJT.

They will then crack down on any form of protest against the EC results with extreme violence and zero tolerance without pushback.

We are so fucked.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 4:36:21am

ok, a town hall
ok, a republican town hall
ok, a republican primary town hall

still

there were no republicans with differing opinions

cnn made it appear that every republican agreed with and supported tfg

so this is what not succeeding at selling your brand for ratings looks like

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Shropshire Slasher  May 11, 2023 • 4:37:06am

More Art.

If you can’t see what it depicts:

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 4:38:02am

An unexpected turn
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Florida Panhandler  May 11, 2023 • 4:40:54am

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump will Pardon all violent backers after he is President again in real time.

He will pretty much have his own grass-roots and police-filled Gestapo.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 4:42:42am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 11, 2023 • 4:45:03am

CNN beclowned themselves. But they have to attempt to cover for their own.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 4:46:42am

cnn is now fox
i’ll treat them the same

no cable in our house so no cnn

i havent watched cnn or fox in years
i check their website sometimes when a major event is just unfolding
then find a more reliable and palatable source asap

i will continue to not watch cnn or fox for years

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Jay C  May 11, 2023 • 4:47:19am

Par today:

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 4:47:56am

re: #298 Florida Panhandler

Trump will Pardon all violent backers after he is President again in real time.

He will pretty much have his own grass-roots and police-filled Gestapo.

this is not 2016
and i know all the caveats, warnings, and cautions
tfg will not be president again

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 4:49:51am

I still recall watching CNN in 2015 (my relatives were over, I generally never watch it) and DJT was on, boasting about how exciting his rallies were while people were falling asleep at Jeb! Bush rallies.

15 minutes later, CNN aired an interview with a woman who says she fell asleep attending a Jeb! rally. They wasted no time crawling up DJT’s ass to gain his favor.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 4:52:19am

re: #303 Dangerman

this is not 2016
and i know all the caveats, warnings, and cautions
tfg will not be president again

He will most likely lose the popular vote again, but that means nothing in the topsy-turvy world of the Pre-Apocalyptic American Late-Stage Capitalist Republic of America.

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Florida Panhandler  May 11, 2023 • 4:52:34am

re: #303 Dangerman

this is not 2016
and i know all the caveats, warnings, and cautions
tfg will not be president again

A big problem is that Trump successfully creates his own demo that also includes previously unreachable segments of society- …mainly misogynistic and gay-hating Black and Latino men who also feel enough guile to play the dangerous social ladder game.

While this segment is not big enough to win minority districts outright it is big enough to tip broader election into the hands of a self-serving monster who intends to murder mass numbers of people next time he is President.

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lawhawk  May 11, 2023 • 4:54:05am

How it started:

How it ended:

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 4:55:43am
“Donald Trump on Wednesday urged Republican lawmakers to let the United States default on its debt if Democrats don’t agree to spending cuts,” CNBC reports.

Said Trump: “I say to the Republicans out there — congressmen, senators — if they don’t give you massive cuts, you’re going to have to do a default.”

He added: “I think the Democrats will absolutely cave, will absolutely cave because you don’t want to have that happen. But it’s better than what we’re doing right now because we’re spending money like drunken sailors.”

“we’re” not

you blew the deficit
- by almost $8bn
- about the third-biggest increase, relative to the size of the economy, of any admin
- granted some was covid

“we” meaning “now” means the biden admin and they are reining it in

i know, why bother pointing out that every word he speaks is a lie?

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DodgerFan1988  May 11, 2023 • 4:58:31am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 4:59:27am

re: #305 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He will most likely lose the popular vote again, but that means nothing in the topsy-turvy world of the Pre-Apocalyptic American Late-Stage Capitalist Republic of America.

i know as a country we shouldnt even be this close
but there’s far more to it than just ‘declaring’ that a million votes are voided

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 11, 2023 • 5:02:34am

Yes CNN. We know.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 5:03:24am

re: #307 lawhawk

They laughed when he called Collins “nasty” and questioned whether she understood what she was talking about.

posted here, biden did this with a reporter yesterday (re the House R’s ‘budget’).
he did it with candor, accuracy and not a hint of nastiness

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Nerdy Fish  May 11, 2023 • 5:03:39am

re: #310 Dangerman

i know as a country we shouldnt even be this close
but there’s far more to it than just ‘declaring’ that a million votes are voided

I understand what Wendell is going for; the Republicans are going all-in on trying to put people, and laws, in place to enable them to just straight-up ignore the will of the people and declare themselves winners of elections. The problem: People are noticing. Even Republican voters are starting to go, “Hey, wait, hold up a sec. You want to do what now?” Only the hardcore conspiracy believers, the ones who are out there posting on Qanon 4chan boards and wearing tinfoil hats in their mothers’ basements, are looking on these things with approval. Yes, things look bad, and yes, we need to be vigilant and keep shining a light on the GQP’s massive attack on democracy, but it’s not hopeless. We’re not out of this fight yet.

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JC1  May 11, 2023 • 5:04:53am

re: #294 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The GOP are going to declare “massive voter fraud” in 2024 and throw out millions of legitimate votes without pushback, handing the election to DJT.

They will then crack down on any form of protest against the EC results with extreme violence and zero tolerance without pushback.

We are so fucked.

I don’t think this will happen. Election deniers lost in 2022 at the state level. Even in places like GA and AZ sanity prevailed. In which states that Biden needs, are enough crazies in control?

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 5:07:01am

re: #313 Nerdy Fish

I understand what Wendell is going for; the Republicans are going all-in on trying to put people, and laws, in place to enable them to just straight-up ignore the will of the people and declare themselves winners of elections. The problem: People are noticing. Even Republican voters are starting to go, “Hey, wait, hold up a sec. You want to do what now?” Only the hardcore conspiracy believers, the ones who are out there posting on Qanon 4chan boards and wearing tinfoil hats in their mothers’ basements, are looking on these things with approval. Yes, things look bad, and yes, we need to be vigilant and keep shining a light on the GQP’s massive attack on democracy, but it’s not hopeless. We’re not out of this fight yet.

well said
as with many other things those people ‘believe’, the actual mechanisms for doing any of this are far more complex than they understand

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 5:09:30am

re: #310 Dangerman

i know as a country we shouldnt even be this close
but there’s far more to it than just ‘declaring’ that a million votes are voided

States’ Rights and competencies under the Constitution.

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Dave In Austin  May 11, 2023 • 5:10:47am

Never Mind. I found it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 5:11:21am

re: #313 Nerdy Fish

Yes, things look bad, and yes, we need to be vigilant and keep shining a light on the GQP’s massive attack on democracy, but it’s not hopeless. We’re not out of this fight yet.

It is far from hopeless, but if we let them railroad us, we will be fucked. And there will be riots one way or another. They know that chaos and misinformation favor their cause.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 5:11:33am

re: #314 JC1

I don’t think this will happen. Election deniers lost in 2022 at the state level. Even in places like GA and AZ sanity prevailed. In which states that Biden needs, are enough crazies in control?

even if the crazies are ‘in control’ of some position w/r/t the election there are no fiats or dictats

each brazen attempt will end up in a court somewhere

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Nerdy Fish  May 11, 2023 • 5:12:28am

re: #317 Dave In Austin

Fake tweet

No Gov.checkmark and the user name is a hyperlink

I clicked on the tweet’s timestamp and it showed up in Twitter under her timeline.

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Dave In Austin  May 11, 2023 • 5:13:18am

re: #320 Nerdy Fish

Refresh. I found it.
Too early in the morning

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 5:14:35am

re: #317 Dave In Austin

Fake tweet

No Gov.checkmark and the user name is a hyperlink

yeah, im not that careful in my reading

sentiment still holds

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Nerdy Fish  May 11, 2023 • 5:14:51am

re: #321 Dave In Austin

Refresh. I found it.
Too early in the morning

Caffeine is that way —>

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 5:15:48am

re: #319 Dangerman

even if the crazies are ‘in control’ of some position w/r/t the election there are no fiats or dictats

each brazen attempt will end up in a court somewhere

and it will wind up in…The Supreme Court…where the Eldritch Horrors arisen of the Swamp of Corruption will have their final say on the matter.

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Nerdy Fish  May 11, 2023 • 5:20:05am

re: #324 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and it will wind up in…The Supreme Court…where the Eldritch Horrors arisen of the Swamp of Corruption will have their final say on the matter.

Even the Calvinball Court has shown a distinct reluctance to just throw everything to the crazies. North Carolina’s craven decision to allow partisan gerrymandering may have removed the “independent state legislature” doctrine from the Court’s consideration, but indications were that only the hardcore nutjobs Thomas and Alito really gave any serious credence to the idea. As much as we drag the Calvinball Court for their callous jurisprudence, they have, except in areas of religious liberty, made some surprisingly reasonable judgments.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 5:20:30am

re: #324 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and it will wind up in…The Supreme Court…where the Eldritch Horrors arisen of the Swamp of Corruption will have their final say on the matter.

it wont be one case with one simple and clearcut decision affecting one district tossing out only ‘those’ votes so we win, ta-da.
it’ll be 50 or more cases
with 50 different sets of facts, principles, parties and issues

and they will be have to be oh so careful with each ‘decision’ because each will impact every election district in the country whether they were part of the case or not

this will not be easy for them and i hate that we’re here

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Florida Panhandler  May 11, 2023 • 5:24:20am

re: #311 GlutenFreeJesus

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It should be becoming clear that in reality, there really are no competent traditional “News’ TV media outlets anymore in the US. They have evolved into self-serving companies that exist as either vanity/ideology-promotion loudspeakers for Billionaire owners or purely money-making entities intent on financial success no matter what monster is in control of the US Government.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 11, 2023 • 5:24:47am

re: #285 Thanos

That’s banana man right?

Yup.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 5:28:24am

re: #323 Nerdy Fish

Caffeine is that way —>

So less more coffee or more more coffee?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 5:30:44am

re: #326 Dangerman

this will not be easy for them and i hate that we’re here

There should be no question on the outcome of an election where one side wins by seven million votes.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 5:31:07am

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Shropshire Slasher  May 11, 2023 • 5:31:50am

Rumor has it she is getting Lemon’s spot.

For over an hour on Wednesday night, CNN anchor Kaitlan Collins conducted a difficult town hall during which her combative guest, former president Donald Trump, pushed his own agenda and called her a “nasty person.” And yet, Collins might emerge as the real winner of the highly debated event.

On Thursday, co-founder and senior correspondent of digital media company Puck Dylan Byers tweeted the unconfirmed “scoop” that CNN CEO Chris Licht is planning to offer Collins “a new contract to serve as the host of the network’s 9 p.m. primetime hour.” According to Byers, the move “could be announced as early as next week.”

CNN has not confirmed the announcement, which remains speculation. Newsweek has reached out to the company’s press team for comment by email.

newsweek.com

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 5:32:23am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 5:35:48am

re: #333 Dangerman

You just nailed the GOP target audience.

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Eventual Carrion  May 11, 2023 • 5:37:08am

re: #237 I Would Prefer Not To

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lawhawk  May 11, 2023 • 5:37:51am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 5:39:02am
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lawhawk  May 11, 2023 • 5:40:01am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 5:40:41am

re: #337 Dangerman

every word that spewed from his mouth was so easy to refute
and she didnt
couldnt
wasnt prepared enough - for any and all eventualities
or she and cnn knew and just didnt care that he was going to lie (as in speak)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2023 • 5:41:44am

re: #339 Dangerman

every word that spewed from his mouth was so easy to refute
and she didnt
couldnt
wasnt prepared enough - for any and all eventualities
or she and cnn knew and just didnt care that he was going to lie (as in speak)

the latter, as CNN does not want to lose access to their biggest ratings draw

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 5:48:22am

otoh, Trump took ownership of defaulting on the debt for all the Rs last night.
that was good of him

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 5:57:07am

re: #339 Dangerman

every word that spewed from his mouth was so easy to refute
and she didnt
couldnt wouldn’t
wasnt prepared enough - for any and all eventualities
or she and cnn knew and just didnt care that he was going to lie (as in speak)

The horse race is all that matters

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 6:04:59am
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darthstar  May 11, 2023 • 6:05:40am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 6:07:38am
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Eventual Carrion  May 11, 2023 • 6:08:03am

re: #265 TarHellion

Got trapped in the spiral and took the bogey. Blaming the putter.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 6:08:54am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 6:10:31am
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lawhawk  May 11, 2023 • 6:12:54am
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Joe Bacon ✅  May 11, 2023 • 6:18:41am

re: #272 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

That’s been a favorite of book bans since it came out.

Ah yes…Memories of the Young Americans for Freedom President in my high school who took Slaughterhouse Five out of the high school library, went outside and burned it in the name of Jay-Zuss as fellow Nixon supporters cheered.

This was in 1973…

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Dr Lizardo  May 11, 2023 • 6:20:25am

re: #344 darthstar

And the Russians are freaking out about that, too.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 11, 2023 • 6:21:59am

re: #342 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The horse race is all that matters

And this wasn’t a Trump pivot into being a traditional candidate either.

Or even a CNN pivot into being a lickspittle for the GOP since they were already there.

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No Malarkey!  May 11, 2023 • 6:22:01am

When even Fox News can see your allegations are just a bunch of hot air.

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lawhawk  May 11, 2023 • 6:26:11am

re: #353 No Malarkey!

Wont stop the same media outlets - from CNN and NBC News to Fox to spew headlines that GOP claims Biden did something… and it’s all designed to ding Biden to elevate Trump’s chances.

Mind you, everything accused of Biden by GOP is something Trump actually did - the self dealing, the emoluments, the nepotism, the billions steered towards Trump family enterprises, etc.

They’re desperate for a horse race and ratings so much so that they’ll torch democracy and enable a twice impeached indicted criminal sex offender to run for the WH again.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 11, 2023 • 6:33:07am

Of course he does.

Now for his encore waiting for him to bring Trump’s Butt-Buddy General Michael Flynn on to spread 75 minutes of QAsshole shit.

CNN boss defends having rabid MAGA audience cheer Trump on during town hall

rawstory.com

CNN boss Chris Licht on Thursday morning was defiant in the face of criticism from even some of his own reporters over the network’s falsehood-filled town hall with former President Donald Trump on Wednesday.

As reported by media journalist Brian Stelter, Licht held a conference call with CNN’s staff on Thursday morning in which he defended the decision to pack the town hall audience with hardcore Trump supporters who cheered him on when he mocked the woman whom a grand jury found that he likely sexually abused.

“While we all may have been uncomfortable hearing people clapping, that was also an important part of the story,” said Licht, who argued Trump supporters represent “a large swath of America.”

Licht also praised moderator Kaitlan Collins for trying her best to fact check the former president in real time when he spouted lies about the 2020 presidential election being “stolen” from him.

FUCK YOU CHRIS LICHT! FUCK YOU AND FUCK CNN!

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Nerdy Fish  May 11, 2023 • 6:34:56am

re: #355 Joe Bacon

“While we all may have been uncomfortable hearing people clapping, that was also an important part of the story,” said Licht, who argued Trump supporters represent “a large swath of America.”

Except they don’t. His crazy idiots are a shrinking minority, but more importantly, we should not be giving them air time. They are domestic terrorists, unhinged loons who seek to destroy democracy so that they and only they get to have all the power. Enabling them only makes them more dangerous.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 11, 2023 • 6:35:54am

Trump once again showed he’s ‘Putin’s dream’ American president

05 11 2023 07 23 47

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Dave In Austin  May 11, 2023 • 6:36:06am

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 6:37:37am

re: #356 Nerdy Fish

Except they don’t. His crazy idiots are a shrinking minority, but more importantly, we should not be giving them air time. They are domestic terrorists, unhinged loons who seek to destroy democracy so that they and only they get to have all the power. Enabling them only makes them more dangerous.

As I noted above, the horse race is what gets clicks and revenue — truth Be Damned

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darthstar  May 11, 2023 • 6:39:07am
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Dr Lizardo  May 11, 2023 • 6:40:03am

Good news, everyone! hopefully

Turkish opposition candidate Muharrem İnce announced Thursday he was pulling out of the presidential race, in a surprise move just three days before the election.

İnce’s withdrawal is set to benefit the main opposition candidate, Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu, who is currently neck and neck with longtime President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan in the polls — and it could even allow Kılıçdaroğlu to claim outright victory in the first round.

“I’m withdrawing from the race. I am doing this for my homeland,” İnce said at a press conference, according to Bloomberg. Earlier Thursday, the Ankara public prosecutor’s office said it was opening an investigation after a sex tape allegedly showing İnce surfaced on social media.

İnce denied the authenticity of the footage late Wednesday, saying the video was “fake” and part of a “conspiracy.”

İnce, who is currently polling around 2 percent according to POLITICO’s Poll of Polls, has been diverting votes from the main opposition candidate, Kılıçdaroğlu, who is supported by a six-party coalition uniting parties from left and right against Erdoğan.

politico.eu

With İnce dropping out, that 2% that were gonna vote for him might - with any luck - decide to throw it to Kılıçdaroğlu and that could be sufficient for Kılıçdaroğlu to win outright, negating a second round.

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darthstar  May 11, 2023 • 6:44:29am

Swept up a par today.

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steve_davis  May 11, 2023 • 6:47:16am

re: #348 Dangerman

it is a known fact that stupid people often wildly overestimate their skills at doing pretty much anything. and this really pretty much sums up an enormous part of Trump’s appeal to his base. They are mostly stupid people who believe the reason they are stuck in the assistant management position is because their overwhelming talent is being held back by some n***** who got the management slot through affirmative action, and not because they personally aren’t smart enough to learn a second language or make store environment suggestions, like changing tables in men’s rooms, etc., that demonstrate they are ready to make money for the company in a changing, complex world.

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jeffreyw  May 11, 2023 • 6:47:55am

Good morning!

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 6:51:38am
Asked during the town hall whether he showed the classified documents to anyone at Mar-a-Lago, Trump said, “Not really”

Paging Mr smith, Mr jack smith….

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darthstar  May 11, 2023 • 7:02:10am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 7:08:27am

re: #353 No Malarkey!

When even Fox News can see your allegations are just a bunch of hot air.

When even Oliver Darcy, CNN can see your allegations are just a bunch of hot air:


Analysis: CNN faces harsh criticism after Trump unleashed a firehose of lies during its live town hall

eta: yes i know they werent referring to the same story

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nines09  May 11, 2023 • 7:12:29am

May 10 2023 will be the date that CNN officially died as a credible source of information.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 11, 2023 • 7:15:08am

re: #368 nines09

May 10 2023 will be the date that CNN officially died as a credible source of information.

Memories of watching the first day of CNN when they showed what they really were. After the opening remarks by Ted Turner they gave endless coverage of the shooting of Vernon Jordan and they went all in playing the race card emphasizing he was in the same motel room with a white woman.

For me that tainted CNN right from the start.

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Mattand  May 11, 2023 • 7:20:21am

re: #363 steve_davis

it is a known fact that stupid people often wildly overestimate their skills at doing pretty much anything. and this really pretty much sums up an enormous part of Trump’s appeal to his base. They are mostly stupid people who believe the reason they are stuck in the assistant management position is because their overwhelming talent is being held back by some n***** who got the management slot through affirmative action, and not because they personally aren’t smart enough to learn a second language or make store environment suggestions, like changing tables in men’s rooms, etc., that demonstrate they are ready to make money for the company in a changing, complex world.

I had no idea you were friends with my cousins, LOL.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 11, 2023 • 7:21:36am

re: #355 Joe Bacon

“While we all may have been uncomfortable hearing people clapping, that was also an important part of the story,” said Licht, who argued Trump supporters represent “a large swath of America.”

Except they fucking don’t. They actually represent a small (but VERY loud) portion of America. Surveys repeatedly find that over 60% of the country doesn’t like these assholes.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 11, 2023 • 7:23:37am

re: #265 TarHellion

Got trapped in the spiral and took the bogey. Blaming the putter.

After the fight to get MrsTarH’s CTA scan OK’d, had to battle again to get the increased dosage for the medicine to fight her PBA approved. Just ridiculous the hoops you have to jump through to receive doctor-authorized health care.

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danarchy  May 11, 2023 • 7:25:38am

re: #371 Eclectic Cyborg

Except they fucking don’t. They actually represent a small (but VERY loud) portion of America. Surveys repeatedly find that over 60% of the country doesn’t like these assholes.

Guess that depends on how you define “large swath”. I’d say even if he only had 30% support that could still be considered a large swath of the country.

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Nerdy Fish  May 11, 2023 • 7:27:08am

re: #373 danarchy

Guess that depends on how you define “large swath”. I’d say even if he only had 30% support that could still be considered a large swath of the country.

And I’m sure that’s what he’s saying, but my God, do we really need to pander to the 30%? Especially when it’s comprised of loud-mouthed “fuck your feelings” assholes who have explicitly indicated that they want to kill people who aren’t like them?

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 7:28:42am

re: #373 danarchy

Guess that depends on how you define “large swath”. I’d say even if he only had 30% support that could still be considered a large swath of the country.

large swath = a market we’d like to tap

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 7:29:48am
“The event was a disaster for the reason that all of Trump’s live events are problematic: It’s much easier to spew lies on live television than it is for anyone to push back against them. Live coverage privileges the liar, no matter how nimble the interviewer.”

“But it all happened because CNN wanted a show. And they sure got one. No one should pretend it was some kind of public service.”

Link

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nines09  May 11, 2023 • 7:29:58am

re: #369 Joe Bacon

Nelson Minow once said:

Broadcasting to serve the public interest, must have a soul and a conscience, a burning desire to excel, as well as to sell; the urge to build the character, citizenship, and intellectual stature of people, as well as to expand the gross national product. …By no means do I imply that broadcasters disregard the public interest. …But a much better job can be done, and should be done.

Television and all who participate in it are jointly accountable to the American public for respect for the special needs of children, for community responsibility, for the advancement of education and culture, for the acceptability of the program materials chosen, for decency and decorum in production, and for propriety in advertising. This responsibility cannot be discharged by any given group of programs, but can be discharged only through the highest standards of respect for the American home, applied to every moment of every program presented by television.

Program materials should enlarge the horizons of the viewer, provide him with wholesome entertainment, afford helpful stimulation, and remind him of the responsibilities which the citizen has towards his society.

But when television is bad, nothing is worse. I invite each of you to sit down in front of your television set when your station goes on the air and stay there, for a day, without a book, without a magazine, without a newspaper, without a profit and loss sheet or a rating book to distract you. Keep your eyes glued to that set until the station signs off. I can assure you that what you will observe is a vast wasteland.

He had no idea how far it would fall and what guise it would wear.

I did not watch. I only saw the responses of others.
I will not engage CNN as a source of anything.

bbl

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 11, 2023 • 7:30:16am

Uh oh!

QAnon Conspiracist Mike Flynn Is Suing Another Conspiracist Who Claims He Invented QAnon

vice.com

Disgraced former national security advisor Michael Flynn loves a conspiracy theory—except when it’s about him.

Flynn, who has boosted countless conspiracies over the last two years, from claiming Italian military satellites helped steal the 2020 election to claiming COVID was a hoax perpetrated by the “global elite,” filed a lawsuit last week against a man who has spent the same time repeatedly and consistently accusing Flynn of being Q.

Jim Stewartson, who previously worked in developing alternate reality games, has attained a level of notoriety online for his wild accusations about Flynn being part of a Kremlin-funded psyop to destroy U.S. democracy.

“Mike Flynn, the worst traitor in history who stole 2016, created Q, planned the insurrection,” Stewartson tweeted on Wednesday, repeating conspiracies he has posted obsessively for over two years.

Stewartson has, as usual, failed to produce any convincing evidence to back up his claims, which have been debunked and dismissed by journalists and researchers who closely track the development of QAnon.

Last month, the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism said it “has found no evidence to support” Stewartson’s claims about Flynn’s role in developing QAnon.

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Jay C  May 11, 2023 • 7:30:52am
“While we all may have been uncomfortable hearing people clapping, that was also an important part of the story,” said Licht, who argued Trump supporters represent “a large swath of America.”

OK, let me add my endorsement to the “Fuck Chris Licht and Fuck CNN” sentiment. This lame-ass apologia misses a couple of important points:
1. The “people clapping” bit is utter bullshit: unless I’m mistaken, *CNN* picked the audience specifically for their expressed support for Trump: so fuck right off with this “Voice Of The People” nonsense.
2. “A large swath of America”? Fine: what about the (likely even larger) swath of America that regards Donald Trump as a national disgrace/existential danger? Are we likely to be seeing a nicely staged exhibition of their political sentiments on CNN? I won’t hold my breath.

And further, I about gagged when I read that smarmy “defense” of Kaitlyn Collins’ “moderation” of their sicko mini-Nuremburg: I didn’t watch that shitshow, but everything I’ve read - uniformly, except for the “official” BS - said that she was (to say the least) hardly the Bastion Of Journalistic Integrity they’re trying to make her out to be.

See first line of comment.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 7:31:20am
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🔧-wench  May 11, 2023 • 7:32:00am

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Hecuba's daughter  May 11, 2023 • 7:36:41am

re: #325 Nerdy Fish

Even the Calvinball Court has shown a distinct reluctance to just throw everything to the crazies. North Carolina’s craven decision to allow partisan gerrymandering may have removed the “independent state legislature” doctrine from the Court’s consideration, but indications were that only the hardcore nutjobs Thomas and Alito really gave any serious credence to the idea. As much as we drag the Calvinball Court for their callous jurisprudence, they have, except in areas of religious liberty, made some surprisingly reasonable judgments.

Not when it came to the VRA or guns or abortion or Citizens United or Florida’s poll tax— most before they had the 6 vote majority

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Jay C  May 11, 2023 • 7:36:43am

re: #377 nines09

BTW, the former FCC chairman who was the source of that quote was Newton N. Minow: famous for that classic characterization of television as “a vast wasteland”.

He just died last week, aged 97. RIP

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Nerdy Fish  May 11, 2023 • 7:37:38am

re: #382 Hecuba’s daughter

Not when it came to the VRA or guns or abortion or Citizens United or Florida’s poll tax— most before they had the 6 vote majority

That falls under the “religious liberty” bit, as the only arguments being made in abortion cases are religious in nature.

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No Malarkey!  May 11, 2023 • 7:37:56am

re: #294 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The GOP are going to declare “massive voter fraud” in 2024 and throw out millions of legitimate votes without pushback, handing the election to DJT.

They will then crack down on any form of protest against the EC results with extreme violence and zero tolerance without pushback.

We are so fucked.

Oh, there will be push back. I expect the Democrats to win back control of the House, and I don’t expect them to simply accept Trump electors from states Biden won.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 11, 2023 • 7:38:16am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There should be no question on the outcome of an election where one side wins by seven million votes.

Unfortunately, one side could win 65% of the vote and lose the election courtesy of the EC.

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nines09  May 11, 2023 • 7:38:49am

You can send an email to CNN. I did. Told them what I thought. Told them I was no longer a viewer. Told them they were in the toilet with Fox and I have no respect for them as a viable outlet any longer.
Drop dead.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 7:39:08am

The Miserable People: AUGUST 1, 2018 / JOHN PAVLOVITZ

Miserable.

Every time I see them, this is the word that prevails.

Whenever I encounter a supporter of Donald Trump on social media now, or scan the crowds at his propaganda rallies, or see his surrogates bloviating on talk shows or pounding upon pulpits, I am left with the same conclusion: they are a people bereft of joy.

There is so little happiness, so little benevolence, so little kindness.

The emotional deficit is continually on display:

In their contorted, sneering countenance; in their so readily brandished middle finger; in their steady spit shower of verbal filth. With each angry gesture and with every slandering epithet, they reveal in high-definition detail what it looks like when someone loses the light inside them.

the rest copied in full because it’s really necessary

War does this to the human heart. These people are at war with the world.

They’re against the gays.
They’re against immigrants.
They’re against Muslims.
They’re against foreigners.
They’re against scientists.
They’re against atheists.
They’re against Liberals.
They’re against the Democrats.
They’re against the Media.
They’re against teenage shooting survivors.
They’re against athletes and entertainers.

The world in their heads is composed almost entirely of enemies and adversaries—and as a result they are perpetually disgusted. If I had that many threats to fight, I’d be unendingly pissed off too. I’d probably pity them a lot more if I didn’t have to endure them.

These are the wildest of ironies: they had their president for four years, their politicians commandeering Congress, the Supreme Court tilted in their favor—and yet they still now manage to feel themselves oppressed, still picture the world unfair, still rage against a machine they’ve made and are part of. So many of them claim faith in Jesus, and yet live in almost polar opposition to his example.

The only time they do smile or show anything resembling joy, is to reflect the arrogant, self-satisfied sneer of their leader; almost always in the face of someone else’s heartache or misfortune, almost always when someone else loses something. They only happiness they seem capable of manufacturing, is in response to pain.

I try to imagine what it feels like to be so afflicted with contempt for the planet: to be so viscerally sickened by the breadth of diversity around me, to be relentlessly in a fear-birthed battle posture—but I can’t.

Thank God, I can’t. If you can’t imagine it either, consider yourself fortunate.

I realize that this has become the difference now; the dividing line in this version of America. It is between joyful people and miserable people; those who live open-handed toward the world and those whose fists are balled tightly; people who are driven by compassion and those fueled by anger; people who want a bigger table—and those feel it belongs solely to them.

As disheartening as it is to witness people this internally toxic, it’s a cautionary reminder of who we do not want to become, of what we can’t let the fight do to us.

We have to fight to keep goodness inside us, despite the outside badness; to never be defined by how many things we hate.

I want my default response to this life to always be hope and not derision.

May we who oppose this national malignancy, never become so devoid of lightness that we resemble those who celebrate it.

May we never applaud someone’s suffering, never weaponize our religion to do harm, never grow comfortable with hearts that are only capable of anger.

May we never lose our laughter, our softness, our lightness in this life.

May we never become as miserable as those who support our former President.

That is when we know we’ve really lost.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 11, 2023 • 7:40:37am

re: #381 wrenchwench

Par.

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After yesterday’s beagle, OF COURSE it took me six guesses today. Grr.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 11, 2023 • 7:41:43am

re: #388 Dangerman

Like I’ve said before: Some people just aren’t content unless they have something or someone (or both) to be angry at.

It’s a way to dodge responsibility by always foisting the blame on nefarious others who are out to get you.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 7:42:49am

re: #363 steve_davis

Did you not just define the Dunning-Kreuger effect. Why yes, you did.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 7:42:53am

re: #379 Jay C

“While we all may have been uncomfortable hearing people clapping, that was also an important part of the story,” said Licht, who argued Trump supporters represent “a large swath of America.”

if this was true, you’d explain exactly why this is an important part of the story

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 7:46:13am

re: #374 Nerdy Fish

And I’m sure that’s what he’s saying, but my God, do we really need to pander to the 30%? Especially when it’s comprised of loud-mouthed “fuck your feelings” assholes who have explicitly indicated that they want to kill people who aren’t like them?

This is where ideals go to die. The right-whingers like to talk about oppression of the majority and we must listen. What they do not note is that tyranny from the minority is worser.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 7:47:44am

From CNN’s media newsletter: “It’s hard to see how America was served by the spectacle of lies that aired on CNN Wednesday evening. It felt like 2016 all over again. It was Trump’s unhinged social media feed brought to life on stage.”

One CNN staffer told the Daily Beast: “One of the worst hours I’ve ever seen on our air.”

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Hecuba's daughter  May 11, 2023 • 7:51:25am

re: #363 steve_davis

it is a known fact that stupid people often wildly overestimate their skills at doing pretty much anything. and this really pretty much sums up an enormous part of Trump’s appeal to his base. They are mostly stupid people who believe the reason they are stuck in the assistant management position is because their overwhelming talent is being held back by some n***** who got the management slot through affirmative action, and not because they personally aren’t smart enough to learn a second language or make store environment suggestions, like changing tables in men’s rooms, etc., that demonstrate they are ready to make money for the company in a changing, complex world.

So how explain Musk? He is absolutely ignorant about everything except being a con artist yet he managed to use those skills to become the wealthiest person on the planet (now 2nd wealthiest).

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 11, 2023 • 7:53:25am

re: #380 Dangerman

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🔧-wench  May 11, 2023 • 7:53:35am

Mastodon

Her other smol fren is Microchip. One of the others.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 11, 2023 • 7:54:12am

re: #395 Hecuba’s daughter

So how explain Musk? He is absolutely ignorant about everything except being a con artist yet he managed to use those skills to become the wealthiest person on the planet (now 2nd wealthiest).

As much I can’t stand Musk now, I must begrudgingly give him credit for making some smart business decisions in years past. You don’t just luck into to being the richest guy on earth. Asshole or not you have to have SOME idea what you’re doing.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 7:54:48am

re: #392 Dangerman

if this was true, you’d explain exactly why this is an important part of the story

As you well know, they cannot.

I’ve been asking a similar question of the people that I work with and mentor — explain to me why you are asking (whatever) question. Unfortunately, scientists often go down the rabbit hole of ‘well, explain this’ no matter what other evidence tells us that It. Is. A. Stupid. Question.

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🔧-wench  May 11, 2023 • 7:55:19am

re: #398 Eclectic Cyborg

As much I can’t stand Musk now, I must begrudgingly give him credit for making some smart business decisions in years past. You don’t just luck into to being the richest guy on earth. Asshole or not you have to have SOME idea what you’re doing.

He chose his parents?

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Florida Panhandler  May 11, 2023 • 7:56:11am

re: #394 Dangerman

“One of the worst” episodes of CNN just might allow them to survive in an incoming Trump mightmare.

If they play really nice they will thrive.

I see what you are, CNN. You made that perfectly clear with authority last night.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 7:56:55am

re: #395 Hecuba’s daughter

So how explain Musk? He is absolutely ignorant about everything except being a con artist yet he managed to use those skills to become the wealthiest person on the planet (now 2nd wealthiest).

He came from wealth, had some semi-decent ideas early on, and then some stole much. Oh, and government contacts.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 11, 2023 • 7:57:35am

So many spring flowers…

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 11, 2023 • 7:58:48am

re: #401 Florida Panhandler

“One of the worst” episodes of CNN just might allow them to survive in an incoming Trump mightmare.

If they play really nice they will thrive.

I see what you are, CNN. You made that perfectly clear with authority last night.

They did, but Trump also confessed to being in control of the Jan 6th terrorists when CNN gave him the rope to hang himself with.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 11, 2023 • 7:58:48am

re: #400 wrenchwench

He chose his parents?

His parents were wealthy, but they weren’t billionaires. I’m not saying he didn’t have it easy, I’m just saying he’s made some smart decisions from time to time.

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Florida Panhandler  May 11, 2023 • 8:00:46am

re: #402 Colère Tueur de Lapin

He came from wealth, had some semi-decent ideas early on, and then some stole much. Oh, and government contacts.

Musk continues his reliance on government assistance with EV subsidies throughout the globe. Various governments are also currently purchasing Tesla battery grid storage facilities helping his bottom line.

His disdain for any oversight or even decent behavior is very off-putting.

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Nerdy Fish  May 11, 2023 • 8:03:19am

Ken is in rare form this week.

Mastodon

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 11, 2023 • 8:04:54am
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 8:05:00am

re: #395 Hecuba’s daughter

So how explain Musk? He is absolutely ignorant about everything except being a con artist yet he managed to use those skills to become the wealthiest person on the planet (now 2nd wealthiest).

same reason trump is Trump.
expertly selling the con / convincing enough enablers

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 8:08:23am

re: #403 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Some catmint - a MD native

Ecinechea aka cone flower up on the right

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 11, 2023 • 8:08:30am

re: #409 Dangerman

same reason trump is Trump.
expertly selling the con / convincing enough enablers

Charisma and charm is a common trait of Cult leaders.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 8:09:25am

re: #404 Crush White Nationalism

They did, but Trump also confessed to being in control of the Jan 6th terrorists when CNN gave him the rope to hang himself with.

plus

Trump Deepened His Legal Jeopardy

“I was there and I took what I took and it gets declassified… I had every right to do it, I didn’t make a secret of it. You know, the boxes were stationed outside the White House, people were taking pictures of it.”

“In what will be of great interest to the special counsel, Jack Smith, Trump would not definitively rule out whether he showed classified material to people, something investigators have queried witnesses about, in particular in connection with a map with sensitive intelligence.”

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 8:11:14am
“Putting him onstage, having him answer questions like a normal candidate who didn’t get people killed in the process of trying to end the democracy he’s attempting to once again run, normalizes what Trump did.”

“It sends a message that attempting a coup is just part of the process; that accepting election results is a choice; and that there are no consequences, in the media or in politics or anywhere else, for rejecting them.”

Link

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 8:11:51am

re: #413 Dangerman

and

“Trump, of course, has the self-awareness of a traffic cone, and he is seemingly incapable of remorse. But CNN’s decision to move ahead with the event, as if nothing has happened, is disappointing.”

“A more defensible position would have been to scrap the town-hall format and tell Trump that he is still invited to sit, one-on-one, with a CNN reporter. To present him to voters as just another candidate, however, is the very definition of normalizing his behavior.”

Link

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🔧-wench  May 11, 2023 • 8:12:03am

Mastodon

Mastodon

Twofer.

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Dr Lizardo  May 11, 2023 • 8:12:09am

On the bright side, the MAGAts will now have somewhere to fuck off to when they get their asses handed to them in the 2024 elections.

Russian authorities will launch construction of a village outside Moscow for conservative-minded Americans and Canadians next year, the state-run RIA Novosti news agency reported Thursday.

Russia has for years positioned itself as a bastion of “traditional” values in contrast with Western liberalism as its relations with the West have deteriorated over its 2014 annexation of Crimea and 2022 full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

Timur Beslangurov, a migration lawyer at Moscow’s VISTA Foreign Business Support, claimed that “around 200 families” wish to emigrate to Russia for “ideological reasons.”

Mastodon

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Dr Lizardo  May 11, 2023 • 8:13:37am

re: #416 Dr Lizardo

Here’s the link: Mastodon

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 11, 2023 • 8:14:27am

re: #416 Dr Lizardo

On the bright side, the MAGAts will now have somewhere to fuck off to when they get their asses handed to them in the 2024 elections.

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I greatly admire your optimism.

I wish I could share it.

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Dr Lizardo  May 11, 2023 • 8:14:40am

re: #417 Dr Lizardo

Huh. Can’t get the link to embed properly.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 8:15:09am

i’m guessing this isn’t going well for CNN right now //

eta, spot on rando observation:
“Made a LOT of news.”

Does he realize his job is to REPORT the news and not MAKE it???

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Jay C  May 11, 2023 • 8:15:21am

re: #400 wrenchwench

He chose his parents?

Well, tbf, Elon wasn’t quite the loony-tunes joke he would become when he stuck to what he knew: the basic biz of technology/manufacturing. OK, not always perfect (Boring Company, Tesla FSD, etc.), but still - “his” enterprises were usually pretty successful, burnishing his reputation. Until he bought Twitter.

And IMO, it’s because Twitter isn’t a “technology” business: it relies on high-end technology to work, of course, but the actual “product” is communications: intangible, and way more subject to corruption and fail: as we’ve seen.

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Dave In Austin  May 11, 2023 • 8:17:01am

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Nerdy Fish  May 11, 2023 • 8:18:24am

re: #419 Dr Lizardo

Huh. Can’t get the link to embed properly.

I think it has something to do with our Mastodon integration, but I couldn’t say for sure.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 8:18:42am
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🔧-wench  May 11, 2023 • 8:19:04am

re: #419 Dr Lizardo

Huh. Can’t get the link to embed properly.

Looks good here, twice.

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🔧-wench  May 11, 2023 • 8:19:41am

re: #425 wrenchwench

Looks good here, twice.

Until I tried clicking them….

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 11, 2023 • 8:20:11am

Way to go, Utah!

University of Utah Diver Flees to Canada Before Rape Charge

A member of the University of Utah’s Division I diving team raped a fellow student and then fled to his native Canada before police charged him, authorities say. Gephardt Daily reports that police say Benjamin Smyth met the victim in a dorm common area and then showed up at her door, asked to have sex, and forced himself on her over her protests. He claimed the sex was consensual when interviewed by police, and when cops showed up to serve him a restraining order, he had packed his bags and fled.

thedailybeast.com

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2023 • 8:27:34am

re: #294 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The GOP are going to declare “massive voter fraud” in 2024 and throw out millions of legitimate votes without pushback, handing the election to DJT.

They will then crack down on any form of protest against the EC results with extreme violence and zero tolerance without pushback.

We are so fucked.

Dude, with all due respect, fuck you. You’re an ex-pat, right? I fucking live here. Your conjecture and catastrophizing is annoying.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 11, 2023 • 8:27:49am

re: #416 Dr Lizardo

On the bright side, the MAGAts will now have somewhere to fuck off to when they get their asses handed to them in the 2024 elections.

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Thank God. Go. Bye. Leave. Both Canada and the US will be better for it.

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Nerdy Fish  May 11, 2023 • 8:28:14am

re: #429 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Thank God. Go. Bye. Leave. Both Canada and the US will be better for it.

Addition by subtraction, as the saying goes.

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Dr Lizardo  May 11, 2023 • 8:28:53am

re: #423 Nerdy Fish

I think it has something to do with our Mastodon integration, but I couldn’t say for sure.

Ah, OK. It’s still funny as hell. Unless the Russians are planning on having something like a Second Amendment put into their constitution (LOLOL), I can’t imagine any American RWNJ - well, maybe Trump will at least have somewhere to run to - cheerfully moving to Mother Russia.

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2023 • 8:29:44am

re: #298 Florida Panhandler

Trump will Pardon all violent backers after he is President again in real time.

He will pretty much have his own grass-roots and police-filled Gestapo.

Seriously, have we all just accepted that FVC is going to win? People, breathe. Go outside, get some fresh air.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 11, 2023 • 8:29:57am

re: #427 Joe Bacon

SMH. Did he really think authorities wouldn’t find him in Canada?

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lawhawk  May 11, 2023 • 8:30:17am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 11, 2023 • 8:30:42am

re: #432 teleskiguy

Seriously, have we all just accepted that FVC is going to win? People, breathe. Go outside, get some fresh air.

I have not accepted that he will win.

I have accepted the chances of him winning are much higher than I would like.

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Dr Lizardo  May 11, 2023 • 8:32:10am

Let them fight…..

Sources close to the Putin administration have told Meduza that Kremlin officials view Prigozhin’s statements about the Russian Defense Ministry as a “serious threat.” One source said that Prigozhin is currently acting “not as part of the same team and not out of the same interests” as the Russian authorities.

“He has his own project, Bakhmut, and he’s currently doing everything for its sake. But that’s a personal project, aimed at giving him more influence over the Defense Ministry, so that Wagner becomes the main force behind the victory,” said the source.
_________________________
A source from one of Russia’s state-run media agencies told Meduza that the country’s propaganda agencies have already received a “warning” from the Putin administration that if Prigozhin continues criticizing the Defense Ministry and reporting “failures on the front,” journalist should begin “portraying him as a traitor” to Russia. The Washington Post has previously reported that the Russian Defense Ministry began preparing materials for a negative publicity campaign against Prigozhin but was ultimately unable to organize it. Now, according to Meduza’s source, a similar campaign is being prepared by the presidential administration in case “Prigozhin continues to break ranks.”

meduza.io

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2023 • 8:32:53am

re: #435 Eclectic Cyborg

I have not accepted that he will win.

I have accepted the chances of him winning are much higher than I would like.

The GOP are biting off more than they can chew. They’ve lost GenZ for good. The abortion thing will continue to bite them in the ass, taking away bodily autonomy from half the population will have an effect.

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Nerdy Fish  May 11, 2023 • 8:35:20am

re: #435 Eclectic Cyborg

I have not accepted that he will win.

I have accepted the chances of him winning are much higher than I would like.

I agree in part. His chances of winning SHOULD be zero, so from that perspective, I agree that his chances of winning (being not zero) are higher than I would like. I don’t think his chances of winning are very high, though. I know, I know, Electoral College, various kinds of Republican fuckery and shenanigannery, etc. More people have been souring on him than have been flocking to him. The people on the left who want their purity ponies are never going to vote for him (they just won’t vote, or will vote for a useless third party); that leaves independent “undecided” voters, and those are continuing to break for Democrats as the Republicans make themselves more and more repugnant. As long as we do our job, get out and VOTE, and remind people what voting for Republicans means in practice, I think there’s not a lot to fear.

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Jay C  May 11, 2023 • 8:43:52am

re: #416 Dr Lizardo

On the bright side, the MAGAts will now have somewhere to fuck off to when they get their asses handed to them in the 2024 elections.

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Reminds me of the story I once read (maybe it’s just an urban legend) about how, back in the Cold War era, the Soviets secretly constructed a reproduction of a “typical American town” to train deep-cover infiltrators. Supposedly, it consisted of a short “Main Street” and some attached “suburban” housing, and was decorated with abstracted American signage, publications, cars, etc., and only got input from (short-range versions) of American media: to familiarize them with the culture.
If that place is still around*, maybe they can re-purpose it for all those disgruntled wingnuts. What would they call it? “Trumpograd”?

*Though given contemporary standards of A) American domestic architecture, and B) Soviet construction quality, it’s not a given.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 11, 2023 • 8:44:14am

OT: Work gripe

I have a last name that sounds similar to a common Latino last name. I am not Latino. I am white with European ancestry.

Despite this, some of our team leads seem to just look at my name and assume I’m the go-to guy to handle the Spanish language stuff.

This despite the fact I have told them repeatedly I do not speak Spanish and a quick look at my work history would clearly show I do not deal with Spanish speaking clients.

But nope, it’s just “let’s send this to that guy with the Latino sounding name. That should work.”

SMH

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Teukka  May 11, 2023 • 8:45:33am

⚠️CW/TW: SA, Twitter user with the Blue Checkmark of Cain self-reporting⚠️

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Dr Lizardo  May 11, 2023 • 8:46:21am

re: #439 Jay C

They can call it “MAGAgrad”.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 11, 2023 • 8:46:53am

re: #440 Eclectic Cyborg

OT: Work gripe

I have a last name that sounds similar to a common Latino last name. I am not Latino. I am white with European ancestry.

Despite this, some of our team leads seem to just look at my name and assume I’m the go-to guy to handle the Spanish language stuff.

This despite the fact I have told them repeatedly I do not speak Spanish and a quick look at my work history would clearly show I do not deal with Spanish speaking clients.

But nope, it’s just “let’s send this to that guy with the Latino sounding name. That should work.”

SMH

If they can’t figure this out, you’re going to have to learn Spanish.

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Dave In Austin  May 11, 2023 • 8:47:14am

re: #440 Eclectic Cyborg

Id have a come to HeyZeus with several levels of management then I’d be heading to HR as much as I can’t stand those people.

That shit would stop on a dime.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 8:47:44am
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danarchy  May 11, 2023 • 8:48:24am

re: #395 Hecuba’s daughter

So how explain Musk? He is absolutely ignorant about everything except being a con artist yet he managed to use those skills to become the wealthiest person on the planet (now 2nd wealthiest).

Say what you want about Musk, but he got in on the ground floor of at least 4 different industries. These are all industries that were nascent or didn’t even exist and he chose to invest in. He could have just as easily been broke if he picked wrong.

Web based payment with x.com and Paypal
Electric cars with Tesla
Private space launches with SpaceX
Sattelite internet with Starlink

You can get that lucky once, but over and over in very different businesses and it isn’t just luck.

Of course then there is the Boring company, but you win some you lose some.

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darthstar  May 11, 2023 • 8:49:04am

re: #440 Eclectic Cyborg

Lo siento.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 8:49:46am

re: #437 teleskiguy

The GOP are biting off more than they can chew. They’ve lost GenZ for good. The abortion thing will continue to bite them in the ass, taking away bodily autonomy from half the population will have an effect.

you are a ray of sunshine this morning

(no /s intended)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 11, 2023 • 8:50:50am

re: #420 Dangerman

“You do not have to like the former president’s answers, but you can’t say that we didn’t get them,” Licht tells staffers, many of whom are angry about the town hall. “Kaitlan pressed him again and again and made news. Made a LOT of news.” And “that is our job.

No. That is absolutely not your job. You’re job is to REPORT the news. Christ.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 8:51:08am

re: #443 Crush White Nationalism

If they can’t figure this out, you’re going to have to learn Spanish.

just make shit up

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 11, 2023 • 8:51:11am

re: #441 Teukka

⚠️CW/TW: SA, Twitter user with the Blue Checkmark of Cain self-reporting⚠️

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That’s an easy report. That guy is going to rape someone if he hasn’t already.

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darthstar  May 11, 2023 • 8:52:19am
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Nerdy Fish  May 11, 2023 • 8:52:20am

re: #449 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

No. That is absolutely not your job. You’re job is to REPORT the news. Christ.

Also, “you can’t say that we didn’t get them.” Yes, we absolutely can. Which “questions” of hers did he answer? NONE OF THEM. He went on a 60-minute unhinged rant about all of his imagined grievances while his toadies soaked it up, applauded, and cheered on a man who was trash-talking a woman HE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED. And nobody did a damn thing to stop any of it.

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🔧-wench  May 11, 2023 • 8:52:51am

re: #440 Eclectic Cyborg

Even if you were a native speaker, translation is another skill that needs to be studied, not foisted on someone. They are dissing you and everyone they think is going to read their Spanish.

If it were me, I’d find someone to help me do a genuinely fucked up translation, and see how long it takes them to find out.

I’m unemployed….maybe it’s my attitude.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 11, 2023 • 8:53:46am

re: #446 danarchy

Say what you want about Musk, but he got in on the ground floor of at least 4 different industries. These are all industries that were nascent or didn’t even exist and he chose to invest in. He could have just as easily been broke if he picked wrong.

Web based payment with x.com and Paypal
Electric cars with Tesla
Private space launches with SpaceX
Sattelite internet with Starlink

You can get that lucky once, but over and over in very different businesses and it isn’t just luck.

Of course then there is the Boring company, but you win some you lose some.

Those are things that are obvious when technology had reached a certain point. He had money and could see the obvious. The rest of us that see the obvious have bills to pay rather than having millions of dollars to invest.

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Jay C  May 11, 2023 • 8:53:58am

re: #450 Dangerman

re: #443 Crush White Nationalism

If they can’t figure this out, you’re going to have to learn Spanish.

just make shit up

Like as my old high-school Spanish teacher once mocked: “learn a few prepositions, and put an ‘o’ at the end of everything”

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 11, 2023 • 8:55:55am

re: #454 wrenchwench

If it were me, I’d find someone to help me do a genuinely fucked up translation, and see how long it takes them to find out.

I’ve actually considered this. Well, a bad “work appropriate” translation at least. That might help drive the point home to stop putting this stuff on my desk.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 11, 2023 • 8:55:58am

re: #456 Jay C

Like as my old high-school Spanish teacher once mocked: “learn a few prepositions, and put an ‘o’ at the end of everything”

If his real name wasn’t Eclectico Cyborgo, the whole misunderstanding would have been avoided.

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silverdolphin  May 11, 2023 • 8:56:06am

The Moment That You Knew

“Increasingly, Chris Licht is to CNN what Elon Musk is to Twitter.” The leadership at CNN knows what it is doing and will throw its talent under the bus to achieve that.

That it also destroys its audience seems to be secondary.

All so people could laught along with a sexual predator making jokes about the women he abused. I will not be watching CNN nor reading them online for quite some time.

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danarchy  May 11, 2023 • 8:56:21am

re: #455 Crush White Nationalism

Those are things that are obvious when technology had reached a certain point. He had money and could see the obvious. The rest of us that see the obvious have bills to pay rather than having millions of dollars to invest.

Bullshit, it is only obvious in hindsight. There are many people with lots of money, if it was so obvious why didn’t he have more competition in those markets. Why weren’t the big dogs Like Ford, GM, Boeing, Lockheed etc. already pushing hard to do these obvious things?

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🔧-wench  May 11, 2023 • 8:58:51am

re: #460 danarchy

Bullshit, it is only obvious in hindsight. There are many people with lots of money, if it was so obvious why didn’t he have more competition in those markets. Why weren’t the big dogs Like Ford, GM, Boeing, Lockheed etc. already pushing hard to do these obvious things?

Bureaucratic rheumatism, stockholders, etc.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 11, 2023 • 9:01:04am

re: #452 darthstar

Been saying this for years. AS AN OWNER.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 11, 2023 • 9:02:45am

re: #459 silverdolphin

He knows where the gullible viewers are and he wants to take them away from FUX.

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jeffreyw  May 11, 2023 • 9:04:46am
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Jay C  May 11, 2023 • 9:06:33am

re: #461 wrenchwench

re: #460 danarchy

Bullshit, it is only obvious in hindsight. There are many people with lots of money, if it was so obvious why didn’t he have more competition in those markets. Why weren’t the big dogs Like Ford, GM, Boeing, Lockheed etc. already pushing hard to do these obvious things?

Also, those “big dogs” were already making tons of money carrying on their traditional businesses: most corporations don’t go in for innovation if they think they will be competing with themselves.

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darthstar  May 11, 2023 • 9:06:41am

re: #462 GlutenFreeJesus

Been saying this for years. AS AN OWNER.

I never enabled self drive on my Tesla when I had it…and only used self steering for about two minutes to test it out on a straight stretch of road.

It’ll be fun watching snowflake Musk respond to secretary Pete.

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Dave In Austin  May 11, 2023 • 9:07:31am
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teleskiguy  May 11, 2023 • 9:08:30am

Look, I get it. Scary fucking times. Powder keg shit. But I also see lots of signs of the FVC fever breaking. Hope is not a bad thing.

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Eventual Carrion  May 11, 2023 • 9:11:22am
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teleskiguy  May 11, 2023 • 9:11:46am

I didn’t watch the shitshow on CNN last night, and I haven’t even seen any clips of it on social media. I’ve read about it and everything I’ve read has roundly condemned CNN.

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darthstar  May 11, 2023 • 9:12:24am

re: #468 teleskiguy

Look, I get it. Scary fucking times. Powder keg shit. But I also see lots of signs of the FVC fever breaking. Hope is not a bad thing.

Prosecute gun humpers who cross the line with extreme prejudice and the ‘movement’ will die off quickly.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 11, 2023 • 9:13:08am
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teleskiguy  May 11, 2023 • 9:14:18am

re: #471 darthstar

We need to ban assault rifles and high capacity magazines, universal background checks, and yes, a gun registry (like we do with cars) and insurance (like we do with cars).

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darthstar  May 11, 2023 • 9:15:22am

re: #473 teleskiguy

We need to ban assault rifles and high capacity magazines, universal background checks, and yes, a gun registry (like we do with cars) and insurance (like we do with cars).

No argument from me.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 11, 2023 • 9:16:23am

re: #471 darthstar

Prosecute gun humpers who cross the line with extreme prejudice and the ‘movement’ will die off quickly.

A lot of garbage-people go from tough guy to sobbing baby when facing the consequences of their actions.

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🔧-wench  May 11, 2023 • 9:19:18am

re: #473 teleskiguy

We need to ban assault rifles and high capacity magazines, universal background checks, and yes, a gun registry (like we do with cars) and insurance (like we do with cars).

I’m going to the state capitol this afternoon to ridicule the Republicans who have been slipping out to deny quorum while the state senate goes for gun rules and abortion protections. MDA* called it a rally, I call it a mission of ridicule.

*Moms Demand Action

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Thanos  May 11, 2023 • 9:22:25am

Every year we grow spices on our deck, it keeps insects at bay while giving us handy cooking ingredients. Today’s tip for home gardeners: sometimes those plant nursery starter plants don’t start well, but those “live fresh spices” plants from the grocery store tend to take off real well.

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Nerdy Fish  May 11, 2023 • 9:22:45am

re: #476 wrenchwench

I’m going to the state capitol this afternoon to ridicule the Republicans who have been slipping out to deny quorum while the state senate goes for gun rules and abortion protections. MDA* called it a rally, I call it a mission of ridicule.

*Moms Demand Action

IMO, intentionally leaving work to deny a quorum should be treated as an unexcused absence, and the votes should proceed as scheduled. I am aware that this is a tactic that was once used in Texas to great effect by the Democrats, though IIRC, the governor turned around and called a special session and the Republicans rammed their shitty bills through anyway. Regardless of who is in the majority or the minority, I do not think that playing games with parliamentary procedure to prevent votes on awful legislation counts as a “win.” However, I will admit that this is now more idealistic than it is practical, given the way the Republicans play with extreme partisanship and no substance.

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2023 • 9:23:53am

re: #475 Crush White Nationalism

A lot of garbage-people go from tough guy to sobbing baby when facing the consequences of their actions.

Clarence Thomas. One of the most striking things about that PBS documentary is their interview with John Danforth. He went to Clarence’s house after Anita Hill gave her testimony and what Danforth saw was what he himself described as a “broken man,” “crying in the fetal position.”

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Nerdy Fish  May 11, 2023 • 9:24:20am

re: #477 Thanos

Every year we grow spices on our deck, it keeps insects at bay while giving us handy cooking ingredients. Today’s tip for home gardeners: sometimes those plant nursery starter plants don’t start well, but those “live fresh spices” plants from the grocery store tend to take off real well.

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Mrs. Fish has removable hanging planter boxes on our deck railings that she fills with herbs and spices, so that we can have fresh cut things if we feel like grabbing them.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 9:25:01am

re: #428 teleskiguy

Dude, with all due respect, fuck you. You’re an ex-pat, right? I fucking live here. Your conjecture and catastrophizing is annoying.

Thank you. You said what I was thinking.

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jaunte  May 11, 2023 • 9:25:07am

re: #477 Thanos

keeps insects at bay

I see what you did there.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 9:26:33am

re: #432 teleskiguy

Seriously, have we all just accepted that FVC is going to win? People, breathe. Go outside, get some fresh air.

And touch grass as the younglings like to say :-|

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Thanos  May 11, 2023 • 9:26:36am

re: #480 Nerdy Fish

Mrs. Fish has removable hanging planter boxes on our deck railings that she fills with herbs and spices, so that we can have fresh cut things if we feel like grabbing them.

We put the basil in pots because they grow high, the chives, thyme, rosemary and other low growth plants are for the deck baskets.

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jaunte  May 11, 2023 • 9:26:45am

7 Plants That Repel Insects
newquaygardencentre.co.uk!

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2023 • 9:27:23am

‘Clarence Thomas’ is a verb in the Black community. That takes some doing.

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Nerdy Fish  May 11, 2023 • 9:28:52am

re: #484 Thanos

We put the basil in pots because they grow high, the chives, thyme, rosemary and other low growth plants are for the deck baskets.

Now I think about it, I think Mrs. Fish has the basil in a separate pot with something sturdy in it.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 9:30:12am

re: #486 teleskiguy

‘Clarence Thomas’ is a verb in the Black community. That takes some doing.

Context and really, plx? Not doubting, just extra curious

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🔧-wench  May 11, 2023 • 9:30:23am

re: #478 Nerdy Fish

IMO, intentionally leaving work to deny a quorum should be treated as an unexcused absence, and the votes should proceed as scheduled. I am aware that this is a tactic that was once used in Texas to great effect by the Democrats, though IIRC, the governor turned around and called a special session and the Republicans rammed their shitty bills through anyway. Regardless of who is in the majority or the minority, I do not think that playing games with parliamentary procedure to prevent votes on awful legislation counts as a “win.” However, I will admit that this is now more idealistic than it is practical, given the way the Republicans play with extreme partisanship and no substance.

They are mostly unexcused absences, and a rule was recently passed limiting those to 10, before consequences of some sort. The cowardly Republicans have been taking turns to delay the accumulation of 10. Cowards is what I’m calling them. I don’t know if signs are part of the deal…

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JC1  May 11, 2023 • 9:30:40am

re: #400 wrenchwench

He chose his parents?

He took major risks that paid off. He risked pretty much all the money he made from PayPal on SpaceX and Tesla. Both were on the edge of bankruptcy for years. His Twitter venture is a fiasco, and he’s showing himself to be a right wing conspiracy minded troll. But he he did remarkable things with Tesla and SpaceX, and I’m glad he did.

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🔧-wench  May 11, 2023 • 9:32:15am

re: #490 JC1

He took major risks that paid off. He risked pretty much all the money he made from PayPal on SpaceX and Tesla. Both were on the edge of bankruptcy for years. His Twitter venture is a fiasco, and he’s showing himself to be a right wing conspiracy minded troll. But he he did remarkable things with Tesla and SpaceX, and I’m glad he did.

He’s still a dangerous puke.

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jaunte  May 11, 2023 • 9:32:48am
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JC1  May 11, 2023 • 9:33:28am

re: #409 Dangerman

same reason trump is Trump.
expertly selling the con / convincing enough enablers

Nah, Musk actually changed the world with Tesla and SpaceX, and increased his net worth by 1000s of times. Trump pissed away most of the money he inherited. He would be far wealthier today if he just took his inheritance and parked it in an S&P500 fund.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 9:35:16am

re: #490 JC1

He took major risks that paid off.

And by major risks you mean that he took vaguely real capital and stole companies from the actual innovators? And then sucked of the federal teat? Right.

We’ve already established that you have different beliefs on how you should live life, but holy fuck. I didn’t think we’d have an elmo sycophant posting here.

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🔧-wench  May 11, 2023 • 9:35:46am

re: #493 JC1

Nah, Musk actually changed the world…

hmf.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 9:36:55am

re: #495 wrenchwench

hmf.

Thank you.

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JC1  May 11, 2023 • 9:38:23am

re: #461 wrenchwench

Bureaucratic rheumatism, stockholders, etc.

Doesn’t explain why neither Richard Branson nor Jeff Bezos have come close to equaling what SpaceX has done. Jeff Bezos had MUCH deeper pockets when this all started.

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Dr Lizardo  May 11, 2023 • 9:38:33am

Doug DeMuro reviews the new Volkswagen ID Buzz:

Volkswagen ID Buzz Drive Review: The Quirkiest Van!

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 11, 2023 • 9:40:02am

Oh my!

Steve Bannon ‘swatted’ during live broadcast: ‘They’re trying to have suicide by police’

rawstory.com

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JC1  May 11, 2023 • 9:41:57am

re: #494 Colère Tueur de Lapin

And by major risks you mean that he took vaguely real capital and stole companies from the actual innovators? And then sucked of the federal teat? Right.

We’ve already established that you have different beliefs on how you should live life, but holy fuck. I didn’t think we’d have an elmo sycophant posting here.

He didn’t steal shit, FFS. He invested/bought companies. Unless you’re alleging fraud that I haven’t heard anyone suggest before. It’s okay to think the guy is an asshole, but we should be fair about his accomplishments.

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2023 • 9:43:41am

re: #488 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Context and really, plx? Not doubting, just extra curious

Hit play, I got it all queued up.

Clarence and Ginni Thomas: Politics, Power and the Supreme Court (full documentary) | FRONTLINE

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William Lewis  May 11, 2023 • 9:44:18am

re: #490 JC1

He took major risks that paid off. He risked pretty much all the money he made from PayPal on SpaceX and Tesla. Both were on the edge of bankruptcy for years. His Twitter venture is a fiasco, and he’s showing himself to be a right wing conspiracy minded troll. But he he did remarkable things with Tesla and SpaceX, and I’m glad he did.

And the reason SpaceX has had any success is they have usually kept him out of the loop. When they don’t, they get stupidity like the lack of sound suppression on the launch pad.

His bad decisions are killing Tesla too just not as quickly or visibly as Twitter.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 9:47:44am

re: #500 JC1

He didn’t steal shit, FFS. He invested/bought companies. Unless you’re alleging fraud that I haven’t heard anyone suggest before. It’s okay to think the guy is an asshole, but we should be fair about his accomplishments.

Fine. Do you really think that he has any actual acomplishments beyond “buying / bought” companies (and, no i am not implying ‘fraud’) but the point is that the man is a schill, a conman, a fraud. His current wealth is built off of sucking off the government teat.

Please to esplain what the he has actually innovated?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 9:48:05am

re: #501 teleskiguy

Thank, my friend

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JC1  May 11, 2023 • 9:48:40am

re: #502 William Lewis

And the reason SpaceX has had any success is they have usually kept him out of the loop. When they don’t, they get stupidity like the lack of sound suppression on the launch pad.

His bad decisions are killing Tesla too just not as quickly or visibly as Twitter.

This may all be true. And yet I don’t see either the EV industry or LEO launch industry being where they are if it wasn’t for Musk. TSLA’s success is forcing legacy automakers to move towards EVa en masse. Everyone will be better off as a result (except for OPEC and big oil, but F*ck em).

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2023 • 9:49:37am

The mere concept of ‘billionaires’ is a moral failing on humanity’s part.

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2023 • 9:50:27am

Fuck Elon Musk. He’s an evil piece of shit.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 11, 2023 • 9:50:45am

re: #438 Nerdy Fish

I agree in part. His chances of winning SHOULD be zero, so from that perspective, I agree that his chances of winning (being not zero) are higher than I would like. I don’t think his chances of winning are very high, though. I know, I know, Electoral College, various kinds of Republican fuckery and shenanigannery, etc. More people have been souring on him than have been flocking to him. The people on the left who want their purity ponies are never going to vote for him (they just won’t vote, or will vote for a useless third party); that leaves independent “undecided” voters, and those are continuing to break for Democrats as the Republicans make themselves more and more repugnant. As long as we do our job, get out and VOTE, and remind people what voting for Republicans means in practice, I think there’s not a lot to fear.

Thank You!

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 11, 2023 • 9:55:47am

We can only hope this trend picks up.

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JC1  May 11, 2023 • 9:56:01am

re: #503 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Fine. Do you really think that he has any actual acomplishments beyond “buying / bought” companies (and, no i am not implying ‘fraud’) but three point is that the man is a schill, a conman, a fraud. His current wealth is built off of sucking off the government teat.

Please to esplain what the he has actually innovated?

The time for a single person to innovate anything is long past. The low hanging fruit has been picked. It takes teams of engineers to push the envelope. I’ve never suggested that Musk is some sort of genius innovator. But he was willing to risk his net worth on long shot bets, and through a combination of luck, skill, and perseverance (most significant successful endeavors take all 3) managed to succeed.

After PayPal, he wasn’t even in the top 1k richest Americans. The Google founders, Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, and dozens of others were worth 100x+ more than Musk. Why didn’t any of them risk 1% of their money to push EVs into the mainstream and to make reusable rockets?
I think that you have to give Musk credit for having the vision or craziness to believe that those things could be done, and actually putting his own money on the line to get them done.

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2023 • 9:57:08am

re: #500 JC1

but we should be fair about his accomplishments.

He has stepped on the necks of workers demanding results. Fuck him.

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2023 • 9:58:28am

re: #510 JC1

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JC1  May 11, 2023 • 9:59:28am

re: #512 teleskiguy

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Kindly, GFY. Not everything is black and white.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 11, 2023 • 10:00:04am

re: #509 Eclectic Cyborg

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We can only hope this trend picks up.

Except when the alternative is equally vile or dangerous to our nation but with more competence; e.g. DeSantis and Abbott. Kemp should also be in that category — he is as racist as any of them.

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2023 • 10:02:00am

re: #513 JC1

You’re defending the indefensible. He’s smart with money. So was Henry Ford.

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2023 • 10:02:57am

Funny how the richest people that ever lived are always the biggest cockpunches.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 10:03:45am

Some more posivte thoughts.

I’ve been building puzzle boxes designed by NKD. But I have tired of that build design.

So, my next project :

I am sad that the author of this series of models had retired
I think it is good that he has retired or I would keep buying and my “models that need to be done’ will never end.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 11, 2023 • 10:08:10am

re: #517 teleskiguy

Funny how the richest people that ever lived are always the biggest cockpunches.

You don’t become a billionaire by sharing business profits fairly with the people doing the work. You have to exploit workers to get there.

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JC1  May 11, 2023 • 10:08:13am

re: #516 teleskiguy

You’re defending the indefensible. He’s smart with money. So was Henry Ford.

Okay. And Henry Ford revolutionized industry. It’s okay to see people in an objective light. Very few people can be considered as pure good or evil; that’s a childish caricature.

I don’t even think that Musk is smart with money. If he was, he never would have gotten into the Twitter debacle. The wisdom of his investments in SpaceX and Tesla is only apparent with 20/20 hindsight. The people who were the smartest with money didn’t want to touch either with a 10 foot pole.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 10:08:25am

re: #492 jaunte

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Also so there would be no dissent

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JC1  May 11, 2023 • 10:09:12am

re: #517 teleskiguy

Funny how the richest people that ever lived are always the biggest cockpunches.

Yeah, Warren Buffett. What a crook and shitty person. /s

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 10:09:45am

re: #513 JC1

Kindly, GFY. Not everything is black and white.

You are correct. Not everything is binary. But you’re giving credit based on net worth, not actual acomplishments. Think about that, really hard.

Yeah, you came from nothing (at least according to your own bio) but guess what, money is not everything and that is where you are putting your endpoint.

Elmo is a leech. And a dumb one at that. You’re supposed to lick the boot, not deep-throat it.

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Jay C  May 11, 2023 • 10:11:56am

re: #509 Eclectic Cyborg

We can only hope this trend picks up.

Yeah, well: Sen. Young can afford to have that attitude: he represents a safely red state (IN), and was just re-elected last year, so doesn’t have to worry about being primaried for quite a while. I’m sure his opinion is likely a lot more common in the GOP than they would want to have known: what’s unusual is that Young says it out loud.

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Thanos  May 11, 2023 • 10:12:06am

re: #518 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Some more posivte thoughts.

I hear you - I have a stack of these ROKR laser cut mechanism/puzzles to get to that the kids bought me.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 11, 2023 • 10:12:33am

re: #516 teleskiguy

You’re defending the indefensible. He’s smart with money. So was Henry Ford.

But Henry Ford was instrumental in creating modern manufacturing processes. He was vile (as is Musk) but he played a key role in developing the automobile industry. Musk may have been clever in ferreting out companies with exceptional engineering staff and providing them resources to continue their operation, but once he bought them, did he provide any insight on product development or was his skill exclusive to getting the government to fund his ventures.?

One of the Pirates of Silicon Valley was Steve Jobs who was a true visionary and whose brilliance often lay in adopting what others created but abandoned (I’m looking at you, Xerox). Jobs was not a nice person, but no one can challenge his perception and key role in technological progress.

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2023 • 10:13:20am

re: #522 JC1

One of the richest men on Earth right now is Vladimir Putin.

Keep digging.

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2023 • 10:16:14am

Honestly this all kind of pissing me off. We’re a generation away from legalization of hunting poor people for sport if elections don’t go the right way and we’re debating the genius of money managers.

bbl

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JC1  May 11, 2023 • 10:16:55am

re: #523 Colère Tueur de Lapin

You are correct. Not everything is binary. But you’re giving credit based on net worth, not actual acomplishments. Think about that, really hard.

Yeah, you came from nothing (at least according to your own bio) but guess what, money is not everything and that is where you are putting your endpoint.

Elmo is a leech. And a dumb one at that. You’re supposed to lick the boot, not deep-throat it.

Elon could go broke tomorrow, and Tesla could go bankrupt tomorrow, and it wouldn’t change the fact that Tesla and SpaceX revolutionized 2 major industries. The EV revolution will greatly reduce our reliance on fossil fuels.

If a shitty person funds research that results in a cure for cancer, it doesn’t make the accomplishment any less worthwhile.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 11, 2023 • 10:18:48am

I am getting letters from Capital One telling me that I am getting a credit card from them. The thing is that I have not applied for this card and I do not want this card. Do I bit my tongue and not use the thing or call customer service and tell I do not want the card?

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 11, 2023 • 10:20:20am

re: #530 PhillyPretzel

I am getting letters from Capital One telling me that I am getting a credit card from them. The thing is that I have not applied for this card and I do not want this card. Do I bit my tongue and not use the thing or call customer service and tell I do not want the card?

You don’t want a CC that you did not order. Call them ASAP. Also check your other accounts. Something may be fishy.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 11, 2023 • 10:21:11am

re: #530 PhillyPretzel

I am getting letters from Capital One telling me that I am getting a credit card from them. The thing is that I have not applied for this card and I do not want this card. Do I bit my tongue and not use the thing or call customer service and tell I do not want the card?

Is it part of a settlement from a class action suit? Reason I ask is because I asked for a paper check from a suit and instead I got a card from Capital One…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 10:21:52am

re: #525 Thanos

I hear you - I have a stack of these ROKR laser cut mechanism/puzzles to get to that the kids bought me.

Bad Thanos, bad. Do not teach me about new model sites. Bad Thanos. /s

I must resist.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 10:22:02am

re: #505 JC1

This may all be true. And yet I don’t see either the EV industry or LEO launch industry being where they are if it wasn’t for Musk. TSLA’s success is forcing legacy automakers to move towards EVa en masse. Everyone will be better off as a result (except for OPEC and big oil, but F*ck em).

In one danger’s opinion a lot of this is timing.
Most of this would have happened anyway.
Sooner or later

Being first doesn’t necessarily mean smarter or prescient
It could mean financially nimble or less constrained or lucky, or lots of things
How he got the money for Twitter ill never understand

Electric cars are not new. Battery tech and efficient motors are what’s made it feasible now

lots of cos are doing self driving because camera and computer tech caught up to what was dreamed about 50 years ago.
They’ll all get there eventually.

True also, “making it happen” is not nothing.
That may be as much good management as premonition

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JC1  May 11, 2023 • 10:22:16am

re: #527 teleskiguy

One of the richest men on Earth right now is Vladimir Putin.

Keep digging.

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Talk about a non sequitur.
You’re reminding me of the Bush voters in 2004 who were carrying flip flops in their hands chanting ’ Flip Flop’ about Kerry. Your version is ‘Rich = evil’. Also reminiscent of Animal Farm ‘4 legs good, 2 legs bad.’

536
William Lewis  May 11, 2023 • 10:22:40am

re: #530 PhillyPretzel

I am getting letters from Capital One telling me that I am getting a credit card from them. The thing is that I have not applied for this card and I do not want this card. Do I bit my tongue and not use the thing or call customer service and tell I do not want the card?

Call them and say no because it’s probably fraud.

537
Hecuba's daughter  May 11, 2023 • 10:22:44am

re: #530 PhillyPretzel

I am getting letters from Capital One telling me that I am getting a credit card from them. The thing is that I have not applied for this card and I do not want this card. Do I bit my tongue and not use the thing or call customer service and tell I do not want the card?

The only times I ever received actual cards from a financial institution were when they were replacing existing cards. Otherwise, the letters always announced I had been pre-approved for a card and they would sent it as soon as I responded to their letter.

538
Hecuba's daughter  May 11, 2023 • 10:28:34am

re: #534 Dangerman

In one danger’s opinion a lot of this is timing.
Most of this would have happened anyway.
Sooner or later

Being first doesn’t necessarily mean smarter or prescient
It could mean financially nimble or less constrained or lucky, or lots of things
How he got the money for Twitter ill never understand

Electric cars are not new. Battery tech and efficient motors are what’s made it feasible now

lots of cos are doing self driving because camera and computer tech caught up to what was dreamed about 50 years ago.
They’ll all get there eventually.

True also, “making it happen” is not nothing.
That may be as much good management as premonition

GM had an electric car years earlier but they killed it off. They just didn’t see how to make it a financial success. No different from Xerox and its creation of the PC and then abandoning some of their key software concepts to Jobs. Large companies are often totally inept at promoting true technological innovation that upsets their current market.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 11, 2023 • 10:30:12am

I just got kicked off the phone lines by Capital One. And I am not giving them my SSN. I will wait until I get the card and send it back. I might call Lifelock and try to get it blocked.

540
Joe Bacon ✅  May 11, 2023 • 10:32:08am

re: #539 PhillyPretzel

I just got kicked off the phone lines by Capital One. And I am not giving them my SSN. I will wait until I get the card and send it back. I might call Lifelock and try to get it blocked.

May want to visit the FTC’s ID Theft Reporting page

consumer.ftc.gov

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 10:32:20am

re: #520 JC1

Okay. And Henry Ford revolutionized industry. It’s okay to see people in an objective light. Very few people can be considered as pure good or evil; that’s a childish caricature.

I don’t even think that Musk is smart with money. If he was, he never would have gotten into the Twitter debacle. The wisdom of his investments in SpaceX and Tesla is only apparent with 20/20 hindsight. The people who were the smartest with money didn’t want to touch either with a 10 foot pole.

This *might* be a little post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Winning at dice doesn’t mean you bet well.
And having bets pay off doesn’t make you wise even looking back.

Yes he was willing to risk some of his fortune.

So the question is what gets the credit?
Having the advantage of enough money to burn, or choosing black over red at the tables?

542
Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 10:32:20am

re: #529 JC1

If a shitty person funds research that results in a cure for cancer, it doesn’t make the accomplishment any less worthwhile.

Elmo isn’t funding anything that will improve anything. He. Is. Sucking. Off. The. Goverment’s. Teat. Various battery mechanisms to store power are a zero delta in progression. The fact that you think he or his money will change fuck all is laughable.

Asimov said it all with Hari Seldon, (paraphrase) no individual will ever change the future. I will note that elmo is not Mule.

Stop licking/sucking that boot.

543
🔧-wench  May 11, 2023 • 10:32:21am

re: #539 PhillyPretzel

I just got kicked off the phone lines by Capital One. And I am not giving them my SSN. I will wait until I get the card and send it back. I might call Lifelock and try to get it blocked.

I’d report what you got already. It’s not Capital One.

544
Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  May 11, 2023 • 10:35:23am

re: #525 Thanos

I hear you - I have a stack of these ROKR laser cut mechanism/puzzles to get to that the kids bought me.

Since I was a kid i always wanted to build the paper clock

545
Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 10:36:21am

re: #543 wrenchwench

Yeah. Just to reiterate. Always call them from a known number and they need to supply the data ; you just confirm.

546
Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 11, 2023 • 10:39:07am

re: #544 Dangerman

Since I was a kid i always wanted to build the paper clock

I’ve tried that. It did not turn out well, admitidly I was about 13. You need to have more patience with reiterate cutting. Maybe now that I’m better psychologically regulated, it may turn out better.

547
Thanos  May 11, 2023 • 10:41:38am

re: #544 Dangerman

Since I was a kid i always wanted to build the paper clock

were: #544 Dangerman

Since I was a kid i always wanted to build the paper clock

That kit is only 18 bucks, that’s cheap as these models go…

548
Jay C  May 11, 2023 • 10:44:37am

re: #542 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I will note that elmo is not Mule.

Close: he IS a colossal jackass……

re: #539 PhillyPretzel

I just got kicked off the phone lines by Capital One. And I am not giving them my SSN. I will wait until I get the card and send it back. I might call Lifelock and try to get it blocked.

Just a suggestion: you might want to call your “regular” Cap One Customer Service line, and try to get in direct touch with their Fraud Department (call them, don’t have them call you, just to be sure); phone trees can be a PITA, but at least you might get an answer to any questions about the mystery card’s authenticity.

549
PhillyPretzel ✅  May 11, 2023 • 10:48:14am

re: #548 Jay C

I just got transferred to someone from India. I can tell by the accent.

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Thanos  May 11, 2023 • 10:51:44am

For the record I am still working on the Revell USS Constitution - my little sister decided to take my first attempt at build to the pool in 1968 & it came back wrecked so the kids got me the kit again about 15 years ago.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 11, 2023 • 11:32:56am

re: #530 PhillyPretzel

I am getting letters from Capital One telling me that I am getting a credit card from them. The thing is that I have not applied for this card and I do not want this card. Do I bit my tongue and not use the thing or call customer service and tell I do not want the card?

We just went through this with MrBWS and Bank of America (and also Chrysler Capital about a car loan we didn’t apply for). Turned out to be a case of identity theft. Definitely tell Capital One you did not request the card. Get copies of your credit reports to see if anything usual shows up there. If it looks sketchy, let me know and I’ll share the steps we took to deal with the problem.

552
🔧-wench  May 11, 2023 • 12:06:46pm

re: #551 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s getting to be time for me to renew Aura!

553
🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  May 12, 2023 • 10:15:54am

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷


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