MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell reports the new filing from Jack Smith’s team of the evidence and witnesses the government will present in the classified documents case. Andrew Weissmann joins with reaction.
First of all, there are quite a number of differences between Lincoln and Luna. Secondly, the argument here that perhaps Lincoln might’ve defended himself from being shot in the back of the head while watching a play if he was armed is somewhat ridiculous. pic.twitter.com/1aV7N2qvFL
— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) June 22, 2023
Even John Wick (probably) would have been screwed in that situation.
re: #271 ericblair
Eh, maybe. I’m not an expert, but I did work on sonar equipment way back when as an engineer. Even when you design the equipment for certain signals and know what you’re looking for, it can be pretty hard to pick things out of background noise. We had some test data that, even after processing, looked like TV snow to me, and the sonar analyst they hauled in to consult was showing us tracks there (squint)… and there (squint harder, wtf). Those people are impressive but will tell you they’re not magicians.
I cross-trained to work on sonar hydrophones dipped from helicopters. On the bench, strong test signals sent to the hydrophone are barely able to pick out on the display, and I knew where the signal showed up and what it looked like.
Smith turned over to Trump’s team the names of the witnesses before the Grand Juries?
How long before he whips up his fascist mob against them to violence?
re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg
Even John Wick (probably) would have been screwed in that situation.
John Wick would have been seated against the wall. Nobody could have snuck up behind him.
re: #381 Dr Lizardo
Pretty sure there isn’t gonna be any bodies. At that depth, an implosion would instantly turn those poor devils into strawberry jam.
to be just a bit grisly, there would be at least some bones. yes, broken for sure, but not disintegrated or crushed.
Human bone crushes at about 11159 kg per square inch. This means we’d have to dive to about 35.5 km depth before bone crushes. This is three times as deep as the deepest point in our ocean.
The 40% of non-water non-gaseous minerals and tissues such as salts, proteins, fats and lipids are virtually impossible to compress similar to water.
Politico: “DeSantis sidestepped that part of the question and instead said Trump was ‘full of it’ for criticizing how DeSantis responded to the Covid-19 pandemic.”
coward
an amateurish, stupid response, because this was a grapefruit:
the correct answer is “i’m gonna be the nominee so the question is will he support me?”
Throw DeSantis and Trump in a cage with weapons and make them beat the hell out of other.
Whoever survives becomes the nominee.
An interesting tidbit here…
A company whose remotely operated vehicle (ROV) found the debris field near the Titanic reportedly said its focus now is on “the families of those on the Titan and for their tragic loss”.
Pelagic Research Services earlier confirmed to CNN that its ROV, which was the first to conduct a search for the missing OceanGate sub on the sea floor, found the debris field.
Sky News reported that a statement on the company’s website, which has since been deleted, reads:
PRS want to express our full gratitude for the incredible, coordinated rescue response of everyone involved in this search and rescue mission. Our focus right now is on the families of those on the Titan and for their tragic loss.
There has been no official statement regarding any deaths from the US Coast Guard or unified command involved in the search of the missing sub.
Sounds like PRS might’ve jumped the gun on announcing the deaths of the five crew onboard the Titan.
re: #12 Dr Lizardo
Eh, I’m not sure I’d slag the company on this.
From the moment it was reported, there was a very slim chance those passengers were coming back. They probably whipped up that statement days ago to be prepared.
re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg
Throw DeSantis and Trump in a cage with weapons and make them beat the hell out of other.
Whoever survives becomes the nominee.
desantis is going nowhere. definitely not ready for prime time / the big league
still
let rick scott enter the race. i’m all for that
he steals enough of desantis’ thunder
trump wins the nom in a walk
trump loses the general bigly
everyone wins
(a boy can dream)
re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg
Eh, I’m not sure I’d slag the company on this.
From the moment it was reported, there was a very slim chance those passengers were coming back. They probably whipped up that statement days ago to be prepared.
Yeah, most likely. Just like most major media outlets presumably have obituaries ready to go for famous people - just have to fill in the date and cause of death.
re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg
MTG and Boebert trash each other, but a new clown rises from the ashes.
re: #17 Dr Lizardo
Yeah, most likely. Just like most major media outlets presumably have obituaries ready to go for famous people - just have to fill in the date and cause of death.
President Nixon had a speech prepared in the event the Apollo 11 astronauts died during the attempt. He never had occasion to use it.
re: #19 Nerdy Fish
President Nixon had a speech prepared in the event the Apollo 11 astronauts died during the attempt. He never had occasion to use it.
Yeah, and Eisenhower had a speech prepared in case Operation Overlord failed. Always a good idea to plan for contingencies.
what a submarine impolsion looks like.
Probably what happened at Ocean Gate for which there is the wreckage near the wreckage of the Titanic.#OceanGate #Titan #Titanic pic.twitter.com/ORNsISnhrT— N3RO (@N3RONEWS) June 22, 2023
re: #6 sagehen
I’m no John Wick and I do that. Comes from being constantly bullied as a kid.
Which my dad and the school system regarded as good for my character.
This seems … unusual. https://t.co/vrT3Sqp0ub
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) June 22, 2023
The sanctions order in the case of the ChatGPT lawyer (well, the first one, anyway) is out. The judge is not pulling any punches so far; I haven’t read down to the penalties yet.
re: #24 jaunte
$500k is a moderate amount. If there’s a home as collateral, then that could explain this.
They don’t have to put up cash. They don’t have to front the money. They just need to show if they’re able to cobble together the money from their assets.
They only have to pay the bail if Santos skips his appearances.
FFRF Action Fund applauds the Michigan legislature for passing crucial legislation banning child marriage - an ancient practice that is found in the Old Testament, highlighting problematic treatment of girls and women as property.
Read more: https://t.co/5Czl5DIHYD pic.twitter.com/fbA2CZfUkO— FFRF Action Fund (@FFRFAction) June 22, 2023
re: #26 lawhawk
At this point it’s a safe assumption that Santos’ father and aunt know he lies about everything, so this seems like a triumph of wishful thinking over experience.
They found the sub..it got squished about 1600 feet from the bow of the Titanic
US Coast Guard announced the loss of the Titan submersible and her crew and expressed their condolences to the families of the dead.
The debris was found approximately 1600 feet (500 meters) from the bow of the Titanic.
Instant death. They may not even have known anything was wrong before it imploded.
re: #31 Charles Johnson
Instant death. They may not even have known anything was wrong before it imploded.
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Hear what?
….
re: #29 darthstar
They found the sub..it got squished about 1600 feet from the bow of the Titanic
Not necessarily - that could just be where the debris field ended up after drifting down to the bottom.
re: #31 Charles Johnson
Instant death. They may not even have known anything was wrong before it imploded.
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Well, so much for game theory and thought experiments about hypothetical cannibalism.
re: #25 Nerdy Fish
The sanctions order in the case of the ChatGPT lawyer (well, the first one, anyway) is out. The judge is not pulling any punches so far; I haven’t read down to the penalties yet.
$5,000 penalty. This is just for violating Rule 11; it’s possible they may face bar disciplinary proceedings as well.
While no catastrophe would have been the better outcome, I am glad they haven’t been suffering for days and dying slowly. https://t.co/q1wAxznfRh
— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) June 22, 2023
re: #31 Charles Johnson
Instant death. They may not even have known anything was wrong before it imploded.
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Either that, or the approximate reaction was: “Oh sh————-“
re: #36 No Malarkey!
$5,000 penalty. This is just for violating Rule 11; it’s possible they may face bar disciplinary proceedings as well.
The order is absolutely, positively brutal in its systematic dismemberment of attorneys LoDuca and Schwartz, and their failure to do due diligence. The judge was clearly extremely pissed off - and rightfully so.
re: #39 Nerdy Fish
The order is absolutely, positively brutal in its systematic dismemberment of attorneys LoDuca and Schwartz, and their failure to do due diligence. The judge was clearly extremely pissed off - and rightfully so.
Letting AI write your brief and not checking the citations is inexcusable.
tbh I wasn’t expecting to see billionaires challenging each other to no holds barred cage matches in 2023, but I’m totally here for it
re: #40 No Malarkey!
Letting AI write your brief and not checking the citations is inexcusable.
The judge even goes so far as to say that the attorneys at issue may have committed a crime (!!!) by attempting to falsify court opinions. While the court cases cited had no signatures, which is a federal crime, the judge says the state could make a compelling argument that this conduct presents a similar fact pattern.
re: #40 No Malarkey!
Letting AI write your brief and not checking the citations is inexcusable.
Speaking of AI, Disney is getting some flak for the largely AI credit sequence for the Marvel Secret Invasion series.
Another Republican Family Feud!
Couch-surfing like a bum college dropout’: Trump lawyer and Kari Lake launch Twitter feud
Former Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis is locked in a Twitter feud with failed Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake after Ellis accused her of “couch-surfing” at Mar-a-Lago.
GASP!
Ellis shared a People Magazine article to Twitter that cited anonymous sources claiming Lake is angling to be Donald Trump’s running mate for 2024 and has become a frequent guest at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort.
“She’s couch-surfing at her friend’s house like a bum college dropout,” Ellis tweeted.
As Newsweek points out, Ellis has received the ire of Trump supporters after she made positive remarks about Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.
Paul Hanken, an undersea expert, says rescuers found “five different major pieces of debris that told us that it was the remains of the Titan”.The initial thing we found was the nose cone… then we found a large debris field. Within that large debris field, we found the front end bell of the pressure hull. That was the first indication that there was a catastrophic event.
Shortly after, we found a second smaller debris field within that debris field. We found the other end of the press hull that…basically comprised of the totality of that pressure chamber…
We will do our best to fully map out what’s down there.
re: #42 Nerdy Fish
Oh, man. And then he’s making the lawyers send notifications of the sanctions to the plaintiff, and tell the judges who they pretended to cite with the bogus decisions about their shenanigannery. That’s going to sting.
re: #40 No Malarkey!
Letting AI write your brief and not checking the citations is inexcusable.
AI doesn’t exist. They submitted a statistical analysis of current internet posts as a brief.
Hate to say it, and it may be too soon, but it appears that Stockton Rush FAFO. He thumbed his nose at safety protocols and established practice, pinched pennies, and substituted salesmanship for seamanship. He has now gone to a watery grave, along with 4 people who had mistakenly placed their trust in him. I have encountered this mentality many times in my 50+ years of aviation, and witnessed the grisly results more than once. The deep sea is far less forgiving than the sky, though.
OceanGate confirms passengers on board missing submersible ‘have been lost’
OceanGate Expeditions, the company behind the missing Titanic tourist submersible confirmed Thursday afternoon that the passengers on board are believed to have “sadly been lost.”
“We now believe that our CEO Stockton Rush, Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman Dawood, Hamish Harding, and Paul-Henri Nargeolet, have sadly been lost,” OceanGate said in a statement.
“These men were true explorers who shared a distinct spirit of adventure, and a deep passion for exploring and protecting the world’s oceans. Our hearts are with these five souls and every member of their families during this tragic time. We grieve the loss of life and joy they brought to everyone they knew.”
Postal Worker on his mail route in Dallas, Texas, collapsed and died. The Heat Index was about 115 degrees. There is going to be a whole lot more of this to come in the near future; there are going to be places where the temperature will literally reach levels incompatible with human life.
re: #47 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈
AI doesn’t exist. They submitted a statistical analysis of current internet posts as a brief.
They didn’t even manage that. They submitted a fever dream hallucination where ChatGPT invented pure BS out of whole cloth because the language model spit out something sounding authoritative but didn’t actually exist.
AI, this isn’t.
And it isn’t going to eliminate work for people. It’s going to shift where work is - to validate that the output is accurate.
re: #48 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie
Hate to say it, and it may be too soon, but Stockton Rush FAFO. He thumbed his nose at safety protocols and established practice, pinched pennies, and substituted salesmanship for seamanship. He has now gone to a watery grave, along with 4 people who had mistakenly placed their trust in him. I have encountered this mentality many times in my 50+ years of aviation, and witnessed the grisly results more than once. The deep sea is far less forgiving than the sky, though.
OceanGate confirms passengers on board missing submersible ‘have been lost’
In the sky, it’s relatively easy to get back down when things go wrong (sometimes too easy, which is often the problem). In the ocean, you are down, and going back up is the problem.
re: #41 Charles Johnson
Danny Bonaduce HAS to be involved with this😂
re: #50 lawhawk
They didn’t even manage that. They submitted a fever dream hallucination where ChatGPT invented pure BS out of whole cloth because the language model spit out something sounding authoritative but didn’t actually exist.
AI, this isn’t.
And it isn’t going to eliminate work for people. It’s going to shift where work is - to validate that the output is accurate.
I do not want to spend the rest of my career checking a mindless algorithm’s work. Checking consultants’ work is bad enough.
re: #35 darthstar
Looks like the Atlantic is getting its ducks in a row about six weeks ahead of schedule…look at that line of tropical moisture stretching back into Africa.
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re: #39 Nerdy Fish
Totally brutal takedown of these two clowns. In addition to monetary sanctions of $5,000, the lawyers are required to, within 14 days of this Order, send via first-class
mail a letter individually addressed to each judge falsely identified as the author of the fake “Varghese”, “Shaboon”, “Petersen”, “Martinez”, “Durden” and “Miller” opinions. The letter must identify and attach this Opinion and Order, a transcript of the hearing of June 8, 2023 and a copy of the April 25 Affirmation, including the fake “opinion” attributed to the recipient judge.
Expect these two to possibly get disbarred (they should be).
re: #51 Nerdy Fish
In the sky, it’s relatively easy to get back down when things go wrong (sometimes too easy, which is often the problem). In the ocean, you are down, and going back up is the problem.
Yep, as pilots are fond of telling nervous passengers, “Don’t worry, we haven’t left one up there yet.”
(Arthur C. Clarke pointed out this could change with spaceflight, where a screwup could well leave you drifting away forever.)
This is so impressive.
A governor actually solving a real problem—in record time.
What a concept! https://t.co/v4yKChIleQ— Dr. Joanne Freeman (@jbf1755@mastodon.social) (@jbf1755) June 22, 2023
re: #48 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie
Safety regulations are written in blood, as the adage goes. It was the sinking of the R.M.S. Titanic that led to the establishment of the Safety of Life at Sea Convention in 1914. The first version of that treaty was a direct response to the loss of the Titanic, though of course, WWI came along and pretty much scuppered it. But it was that disaster and the horrific loss of life that lit a fire under everyone’s asses and made them realize there needed to be greater regulations regarding lifeboats, safety equipment and continuous radio monitoring to prevent a repeat of that tragedy.
re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg
First of all, there are quite a number of differences between Lincoln and Luna. Secondly, the argument here that perhaps Lincoln might’ve defended himself from being shot in the back of the head while watching a play if he was armed is somewhat ridiculous.
“Christ would never have been crucified if he and his disciples had been properly armed!”
re: #3 Joe Bacon ✅
Luna has a very questionable background…
and a poor education, just between you and I
What film studio puts out the first movie about the Titan “disaster”?
re: #19 Nerdy Fish
President Nixon had a speech prepared in the event the Apollo 11 astronauts died during the attempt. He never had occasion to use it.
We forget what a crap shoot so many of these great events were.
I bear the surname of a Russian cosmonaut who is believed to have been lost in space before Gagarin (The Soviets did not televise or announce launches, only successful landings)
re: #3 Joe Bacon ✅
Luna has a very questionable background…
I still think she’s George Santos in extremely heavy makeup, but with the suits, I’m not sure if it counts as drag.
Robert Kennedy Jr. told me on several occasions that he contracted Hepatitis C from my father-in-law John Phillips when they shared needles shooting heroin together back in the 70s.
I found that to be disturbing, unsettling, and impossible to prove cuz in his very next breath he… pic.twitter.com/OehTdK8tZv— Billy Baldwin (@BillyBaldwin) June 22, 2023
re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
“Christ would never have been crucified if he and his disciples had been properly armed!”
Or, as Homer Simpson put it, ” If Jesus had a gun, he’d be alive now!’
re: #63 Dr. Matt
What film studio puts out the first movie about the Titan “disaster”?
Netflix, so chill…
re: #63 Dr. Matt
What film studio puts out the first movie about the Titan “disaster”?
James Cameron’s Lightstorm, I think.
re: #66 gocart mozart
Robert Kennedy Junior is a chaos agent!#BidenHarris2024 pic.twitter.com/2VXnZne79j
— ❤️🧡💛ᗰia💚💙💜 (@mommamia1217) June 22, 2023
So, Kari Lake went surfing by the titanic and she’s not coming up?
re: #49 No Malarkey!
Postal Worker on his mail route in Dallas, Texas, collapsed and died. The Heat Index was about 115 degrees. There is going to be a whole lot more of this to come in the near future; there are going to be places where the temperature will literally reach levels incompatible with human life.
Yeah, but he was probably vaxxed…..for something.
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re: #63 Dr. Matt
What film studio puts out the first movie about the Titan “disaster”?
Netflix? Amazon? Max?
re: #27 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
FFRF Action Fund applauds the Michigan legislature for passing crucial legislation banning child marriage - an ancient practice that is found in the Old Testament, highlighting
problematic treatment of girls and women as propertygreat disrespect for the Judeo-Christian principles upon which America was founded.
New dog show to recommend on Netflix: Muster Dogs, in which a Kelpie dog breeder distributes a litter of pups to a variety of cattle and sheep station owners all across Australia who participate in a contest to see who can train the pups to work with their other dogs to herd stock. All in just one year, instead of the usual three.
Hours of cute puppy and working dog morale building.
re: #77 No Malarkey!
Trump pleads with Congress on TruthSocial to save his bacon.
The only plea I wanna hear from him is “Guilty, your Honor!”
re: #77 No Malarkey!
Trump pleads with Congress on TruthSocial to save his bacon.
Hang on, I thought Conservatives were AGAINST handouts and government help?
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re: #371 Joe Bacon ✅
He’s begging to be Trump’s running mate.
RFK Jr. says Russia acted ‘in good faith’ in Ukraine and blames U.S. for war
RFK Jr needs to cut off his shoes, go live in a tree, and learn to play the flute.
re: #48 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie
Hate to say it, and it may be too soon, but it appears that Stockton Rush FAFO. He thumbed his nose at safety protocols and established practice, pinched pennies, and substituted salesmanship for seamanship. He has now gone to a watery grave, along with 4 people who had mistakenly placed their trust in him. I have encountered this mentality many times in my 50+ years of aviation, and witnessed the grisly results more than once. The deep sea is far less forgiving than the sky, though.
OceanGate confirms passengers on board missing submersible ‘have been lost’
“They were true explorers…”
Well, no. True explorers would have made safety a major priority. Explorers want to explore, not die.
The CEO of this company was a reckless fool who got several people killed with his hubris.
So yay. Severe thunderstorms this afternoon with destructive downburst winds, apple-size hail, and potential tornados.
A Severe Thunderstorm Watch is in effect until 9 PM MDT for much of southeast Wyoming and the western Nebraska panhandle. Severe thunderstorms will occur across western Nebraska after 5 PM. Isolated tornadoes will be possible along with large hail and damaging winds. #newx #wywx pic.twitter.com/56fspsVd1c
— NWS Cheyenne (@NWSCheyenne) June 22, 2023
Hail accumulation has begun to occur across Interstate 80 near Strouss Hill as of approximately 130pm MDT from a severe warned thunderstorm. #wywx #wyoroad pic.twitter.com/momTEGOuTp
— NWS Cheyenne (@NWSCheyenne) June 22, 2023
re: #82 Charles Johnson
“They were true explorers…”
Well, no. True explorers would have made safety a major priority. Explorers want to explore, not die.
The CEO of this company was a reckless fool who got several people killed with his hubris.
Went for a visit, and ended up staying.
re: #82 Charles Johnson
“The CEO of this company was a reckless fool who got several people killed with his hubris.
And it will happen again in the future.
And again.
And again…
re: #58 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie
Yep, as pilots are fond of telling nervous passengers, “Don’t worry, we haven’t left one up there yet.”
(Arthur C. Clarke pointed out this could change with spaceflight, where a screwup could well leave you drifting away forever.)
after x hours of flight, you’re gonna be on the ground.
it would be good if that were at an airport…
re: #82 Charles Johnson
“They were true explorers…”
Well, no. True explorers would have made safety a major priority. Explorers want to explore, not die.
The CEO of this company was a reckless fool who got several people killed with his hubris.
Not to mention that they weren’t exploring shit. They were tourists, in a super-expensive glass bottom boat ride that went horribly wrong.
We had two massive storm systems blow past us today, each time they just grazed us and left all of 1/4” of precip before moving on. Looks like the same thing will happen tonight, Cologne and Strasbourg will get soaked and we will get light showers
How many died when the Titanic went down?
Now we add 5 to that number. Who wants to be next?
re: #81 🔧-wench
Perfectly legal boxes in my shower. Hoax.
The Former Guy: “The FBI planted the classified docs that I declassified and I want them back because I packed them up and stored them with tiny used jockstraps.”
re: #90 Dave In Austin
How many died when the Titanic went down?
Now we add 5 to that number. Who wants to be next?
I’m tempted. An instant painless death is the best way to go. Most of us suffer before we die.
re: #86 Eclectic Cyborg
And it will happen again in the future.
And again.
And again…
It’s remarkable about how ostensibly intelligent people in leadership positions keep making the same stupid mistakes that have repeatedly occurred in the past. When an engineer warns you that the tech is going to fail in a dangerous environment, firing them doesn’t solve the problem!
With any luck, Musk and Zuckerberg will beat each other to death.
re: #94 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈
I’m tempted. An instant painless death is the best way to go. Most of us suffer before we die.
I want to die in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like the passengers in his car.
re: #96 No Malarkey!
It’s remarkable about how ostensibly intelligent people in leadership positions keep making the same stupid mistakes that have repeatedly occurred in the past. When an engineer warns you that the tech is going to fail in a dangerous environment, firing them doesn’t solve the problem!
Yeah, but when you’ve got shareholders to please…
re: #95 Joe Bacon ✅
Joe Rogan’s Most Controversial Statements
So many to choose from!
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re: #96 No Malarkey!
It’s remarkable about how ostensibly intelligent people in leadership positions keep making the same stupid mistakes that have repeatedly occurred in the past. When an engineer warns you that the tech is going to fail in a dangerous environment, firing them doesn’t solve the problem!
It’s like I said yesterday: You hire highly paid engineers for a reason, and that reason is supposedly because you trust their judgment and expertise. If you just throw all that trust away because you don’t like what they’re saying, you’re a fool, doubly so.
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re: #96 No Malarkey!
It’s remarkable about how ostensibly intelligent people in leadership positions keep making the same stupid mistakes that have repeatedly occurred in the past. When an engineer warns you that the tech is going to fail in a dangerous environment, firing them doesn’t solve the problem!
‘wont happen to me’
re: #97 Charles Johnson
With any luck, Musk and Zuckerberg will beat each other to death.
It would be hilarious to see them both put on VR goggles and fight the meta version of each other in the same room.
re: #96 No Malarkey!
It’s remarkable about how ostensibly intelligent people in leadership positions keep making the same stupid mistakes that have repeatedly occurred in the past. When an engineer warns you that the tech is going to fail in a dangerous environment, firing them doesn’t solve the problem!
because they know that their options are often highly limited
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re: #104 Joe Bacon ✅
He’s nucking futs!
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“If I’m elected I will bring back dail-up modems connected to rotary phones!”
re: #48 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie
“They were true eximplorders…”
I’ll show myself out now…..
re: #96 No Malarkey!
It’s remarkable about how ostensibly intelligent people in leadership positions keep making the same stupid mistakes that have repeatedly occurred in the past. When an engineer warns you that the tech is going to fail in a dangerous environment, firing them doesn’t solve the problem!
It does if the problem is this loudmouth engineer that won’t fall in line and gets in the way of short-term profits.
re: #108 Charles Johnson
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mrsdm will be in denver one more night
we just rebooked flights and hotels
i’m off to dangermom’s
#2 niece is in town staying with grandma (not her own parents!*)
tonight’s fare i’m whipping up:
pasta with tomatoes and basil
salad
crustless cheesecake
yum.
re: #110 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie
“They were true
eximplorders…”I’ll show myself out now…..
i implore you to give this crushing defeat a rest
re: #101 Nerdy Fish
It’s like I said yesterday: You hire highly paid engineers for a reason, and that reason is supposedly because you trust their judgment and expertise. If you just throw all that trust away because you don’t like what they’re saying, you’re a fool, doubly so.
And also, what I mentioned before: it’s also a case of “worked OK the first time!” syndrome: the last excursion of the OceanGate Titan wasn’t (unlike the Titanic), its first. But that still didn’t/doesn’t make up for the engineering failures ….
I have two Bluesky invitation codes to give away - first come, first served.
re: #113 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)
crustless cheesecake
They made that where I used to work, but they called it ‘Gluten Free’.
re: #117 Charles Johnson
hit me
my hook
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re: #90 Dave In Austin
How many died when the Titanic went down?
According to one of the New York tabloids, the death toll was John Jacob Astor, and 1500-1800 others. Mrs Astor and 739 others were saved.
re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
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re: #120 jaunte
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re: #122 sagehen
According to one of the New York tabloids, the death toll was John Jacob Astor, and 1500-1800 others. Mrs Astor and 739 others were saved.
I heard on MSNBC that the wife of the CEO who died on the Titan has ancestors who died on the Titanic.
That’s all the invite codes for now. Will let everyone know when we have more.
re: #90 Dave In Austin
How many died when the Titanic went down?
Now we add 5 to that number. Who wants to be next?
Two of the people who died on the Titanic were the great-great-grand parents of the wife of Stockton Rush , the CEO of Oceangate.
The wife of OceanGate’s CEO is descended from a famous couple who died on the Titanic
re: #115 Egregious Philbin
Eh, they already did it. (one weird and fun movie)
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$3.79 rental on Amazon Prime in the US.
George Santos’ dad and aunt, a house painter and a mail carrier respectively, posted his $500,000 bond. https://t.co/TSqKHFnust pic.twitter.com/pDKFL8Kb84
— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) June 22, 2023
re: #127 aatharuv
Two of the people who died on the Titanic were the great-great-grand parents of the wife of Stockton Rush , the CEO of Oceangate.
The wife of OceanGate’s CEO is descended from a famous couple who died on the Titanic
Funny how something from the past like that can set in motion the chain of decisions and events that eventually killed Mr. Rush and his victims.
re: #128 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈
With a very young Richard Dreyfuss
re: #117 Charles Johnson
I have two Bluesky invitation codes to give away - first come, first served.
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re: #130 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈
Funny how something from the past like that can set in motion the chain of decisions and events that eventually killed Mr. Rush and his victims.
One can imagine if there was a canned tour guide speech being given on the sub: “We are about to observe the wreck of the Titanic, which had serious design flaws and neglected to have basic safety features such as lifeboats sufficient for all of the passengers, leading to the tragic, unnecessary loss of many lives.”
re: #132 BeenHereAwhile
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More election fraud - by Republicans! https://t.co/EnqvQA1Q36
— Tea Pain (@TeaPainUSA) June 22, 2023
Looks as if the great deluge is finally winding down. Since Monday afternoon, we have had 7.5 inches of rain here in Western NC. This pushes our annual total to just shy of 34 inches. This area averages 48 inches of precip per year, though the last four years we have been in the 60-72 range. Yes, the climate is changing.
One weird quirk is we set a new record for the lowest high temperature on the first day of summer - 68 degrees.
These are not the fish you’re looking for. #GOP #Republicans #ClarenceThomas #Alito #SCOTUS #SCOTUSIsCompromised #SCOTUSIsCorrupt #Fishing #Biden #Bribe pic.twitter.com/E8iOsxV9l9
— Clay Jones (@claytoonz) June 22, 2023
re: #59 lawhawk
We are honored to be asked to lend a small hand if needed to assist in the reopening of I-95.
It is inspiring to see the hard work that has went in by the men and women around the clock here in Philadelphia.— Pocono Raceway (@PoconoRaceway) June 22, 2023
re: #90 Dave In Austin
How many died when the Titanic went down?
Now we add 5 to that number. Who wants to be next?
Even given that by 1912, documentation for sea voyages (especially on big commercial vessels like Titanic) was fairly well-collected, the number of actual casualties for that liner’s sinking has never been accurately determined. The figure of 1513 dead is usually cited as “official”, though most research (both contemporary and modern) seems to agree that that is probably a *minimum* number, and not an exact figure. Which (by this point) is unlikely to ever be precisely determined.
re: #21 gocart mozart
Pretty much.
re: #22 Shropshire Slasher
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Pressure differential for that tank is puny compared to what the Titan experienced. Imagine that thing NOPEing in an environment 392 times atmospheric pressure, give or take. All the air in the submersible is instantly compressed into the size of a golf ball or so, and the pressure increase heats it up so much that it autoignites.
More than a bit naive, I’d say. This is starting to sound like the decapitation water park that was built without engineers by trial and error.
The dive was repeatedly delayed to fix a problem with the battery and the balancing weights. In total, the voyage took 10.5 hours.
The group was lucky and enjoyed an amazing view of the wreck, Loibl said, unlike visitors on other dives who only got to see a field of debris or in some cases nothing at all. Some customers lost nonrefundable payments after bad weather made descent impossible.
He described Rush as a tinkerer who tried to make do with what was available to carry out the dives, but in hindsight, he said, “it was a bit dubious.”
“I was a bit naive, looking back now,” Loibl said. “It was a kamikaze operation.”
Tourist sub customer calls his 2021 dive to the Titanic a ‘kamikaze operation’ (AP)
re: #144 Charles Johnson
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It can be mixed down to work with whatever the individual can afford.
My receiver is 7.1 with support for Atmos audio.
re: #41 Charles Johnson
tbh I wasn’t expecting to see billionaires challenging each other to no holds barred cage matches in 2023, but I’m totally here for it
Elon should take Ellison for a ride on his new big rocket…bring Harlan Crow and the surviving Koch brother along for good measure.
re: #144 Charles Johnson
You have to get the Atmos mixed DVD of Zappa’s Waka/Jawaka and Grand Wazoo albums. Even running them in Atmos with a modest TV 5.1 surround sound system is amazing.
re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg
Throw DeSantis and Trump in a cage with weapons and make them beat the hell out of other.
Whoever survives becomes the nominee.
Weapons: tube socks stuffed with feces.
re: #147 Egregious Philbin
You have to get the Atmos mixed DVD of Zappa’s Waka/Jawaka and Grand Wazoo albums. Even running them in Atmos with a modest TV 5.1 surround sound system is amazing.
A lesser person would not have a damn clue what you just said. :P
Physics Girl health update that went out to patrons.
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re: #141 Jay C
Even given that by 1912, documentation for sea voyages (especially on big commercial vessels like Titanic) was fairly well-collected, the number of actual casualties for that liner’s sinking has never been accurately determined. The figure of 1513 dead is usually cited as “official”, though most research (both contemporary and modern) seems to agree that that is probably a *minimum* number, and not an exact figure. Which (by this point) is unlikely to ever be precisely determined.
We can never really know how many stowaways there might have been, right?
re: #151 sagehen
We can never really know how many stowaways there might have been, right?
That, plus it’s not like many of the survivors had ID on them. I’m sure at least one guy boarded the Titanic as Joseph Cooper and told the rescuers he was “Richard Smith”.
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re: #109 Barefoot Grin
“If I’m elected I will bring back dail-up modems connected to rotary phones!”
Hey, don’t knock my rotary telephone. /s
My old computer had a dial-up modem; I used it once while visiting my brother-in-law. My new computer does not have one. (It doesn’t have an Ethernet port either, which is the one thing I don’t like about it. I would prefer not to be entirely dependent on Wi-Fi for a connexion.)
re: #153 Vicious Babushka
TFG watched this show and he’s like I WANT THIS LAWYER!!! GET ME THIS LAWYER!!1!!!
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That was a fun series. Definitely worth watching both seasons - especially if you like musicals.
Being an asshole can get expensive.
New York CNN —
The Georgia autoshop owner who in 2022 paid one of this employees his final wage by dumping 91,500 oil-covered pennies in his driveway has been ordered by a federal judge to pay nearly $40,000 in additional back wages and damages to his employees, court records show.Miles Walker, owner of A OK Walker Autoworks in Peachtree City, Georgia was ordered to pay back wages in the total amount of $19,967.09, plus liquidated damages in the amount of $19,967.09, the consent judgement shows.
Last year, the US Department of Labor filed a lawsuit against Walker for violating federal labor law, after he retaliated against a former employee who contacted the agency when he didn’t receive his final paycheck. He eventually paid the ex-employee, named Andreas Flaten, with roughly 90,000 pennies and a note expressing a short expletive.
re: #134 Charles Johnson
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re: #124 Charles Johnson
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‘Should have been fired’: Journalist apologizes for giving voice to RFK Jr.’s conspiracy theories
Well, better late than never…
A prominent journalist is apologizing for her role 18 years ago in promoting Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s falsehoods about vaccines.
Joan Walsh, as Salon magazine’s editor-in-chief, ran a 2005 article authored by the anti-vaxxer published under the headline “Deadly Immunity.” She now believes she “should have been fired” for it.
Kennedy, considered among the leading voices of the anti-vaccine movement, falsely claimed that childhood vaccines caused autism, an assertion that has been debunked by medical experts.
These days Kennedy is trafficking in baseless conspiracies about the dangers of wi-fi and “other forms of junk science (that) deserve no wide hearing,” Walsh writes in a mea culpa for The Nation.
re: #161 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈
He was right to be afraid of that death trap. Why weren’t the adults afraid?
Utter cluelessness?
Based on the discussion in the past couple of days, I know at least a few of us have been in submarines before. Someone sufficiently clueless might not have realized the difference between “Tourist submarine in Hawai’i that goes up to 100 feet below the surface” or “Disneyland submarine” and “Experimental submarine that goes down 3,000 feet under 300 atmospheres of pressure.”
But one would think a billionaire businessman would know enough to do some research.
All Republicans plus Joe Manchin voted to override the veto. All Democrats plus the three independents (King, Sanders, Sinema) voted to sustain the veto.
The measure to overturn the Environmental Protection Agency’s new rule to further restrict vehicle emissions veto by Joe Biden has been defeated.
Question: On Overriding the Veto (Shall the Joint Resolution Pass, the Objections of the President of the United States to the Contrary Notwithstanding? )
Vote Number: 167
Vote Date: June 21, 2023, 11:31 AM
Required For Majority: 2/3
Vote Result: Veto Sustained
Measure Number: S.J.Res. 11
Measure Title: A joint resolution providing for congressional disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code, of the rule submitted by the Environmental Protection Agency relating to “Control of Air Pollution From New Motor Vehicles: Heavy-Duty Engine and Vehicle Standards”.
Vote Counts:
YEAs 50
NAYs 50
re: #162 Joe Bacon ✅
It is the second such apology Walsh has publicly made over her role in publishing Kennedy’s falsehoods. In a 2011 article announcing that it was taking down Kennedy’s piece, Walsh said, “I regret we didn’t move on this more quickly, as evidence continued to emerge debunking the vaccines and autism link.”
“But continued revelations of the flaws and even fraud tainting the science behind the connection make taking down the story the right thing to do.”
re: #164 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Well, I worded that poorly, so I fixed it.
Brian Kemp Refuses to Be a MAGAverse Troll
(A republican governor does the climate policy tap dance)
…As the 2024 Republican presidential field takes shape, Mr. Kemp has stayed on the sidelines, even as some big donors have quietly nudged him to jump in. He is not expected to join the fray, but neither has he entirely ruled it out. Just last week, he mused to CBS News that “in politics, there’s always doors opening and closing and everything else”— causing ears to prick up in political circles…
No paywall
If you don’t know your National Weather Service regional office three-letter code, here’s a map.
Here is a picture to assist you with the NWS office 3 letter codes. You can interpolate from there that CYS is for the NWS Cheyenne office. pic.twitter.com/U2v0AzZNZu
— NWS Cheyenne (@NWSCheyenne) June 22, 2023
Tornado Warning continues for Arapahoe County, CO, Douglas County, CO until 4:00 PM MDT pic.twitter.com/Si49CNhwBo
— NWS Tornado (@NWStornado) June 22, 2023
re: #157 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈
Being an asshole can get expensive.
He’s gonna try to pay the judgment in pennies, isn’t he?
re: #171 Eclectic Cyborg
He’s gonna try to pay the judgment in pennies, isn’t he?
It would be fun to see what the settlement for that would be. Maybe the worker can get a million for his thousand in back wages.
re: #169 jaunte
Bro at the tip of Texas.
We know Joe Bacon is in Los Angeles because it goes by LOX.
re: #174 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
I’m in the far east of EWX, which sounds distasteful.
re: #174 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
We know Joe Bacon is in Los Angeles because it goes by LOX.
Which kinda/sorta/almost makes sense: but the NYC (extended) area as “OKX”??? WTF??
Two at the same time:
Grand Funk Railroad—We’re an American Band
Yes—Fragile
Screw your astrological sign. Tell me the first album you bought with your own money. No cheating. As proof I’m telling the truth and it might surprise you: *NSYNC’s No Strings Attached
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re: #177 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
First album I ever bought was Frank Zappa’s FREAK OUT and I had to hide it in my bedroom under the carpet. Mom and Dad only had records of Broadway shows, movie soundtracks, classical music or operas.
re: #176 Jay C
Which kinda/sorta/almost makes sense: but the NYC (extended) area as “OKX”??? WTF??
OKX is a Seychelles cryptocurrency exchange. Obviously the National Weather Service has New York weather on the blockchain.
This is a somewhat complex explanation why these codes don’t seem to make sense
TL;DR, The World Metrological Organisation developed short codes plus binary computer strings in concert with the International Civil Aviation Organisation for what aircraft require. These codes can be added to by member states for local requirements (such as FIPS codes for National Weather Service radios for localised warning information).
Metal fatigue at its worst. This was a failure of the “wing box” due to metal fatigue. Grounded the Air Tanker fleet for several years and changed Safety Inspections forever.
A Detailed Analysis of the Tanker 130 and Tanker 123 Airplane Crash
re: #58 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie
Yep, as pilots are fond of telling nervous passengers, “Don’t worry, we haven’t left one up there yet.”
(Arthur C. Clarke pointed out this could change with spaceflight, where a screwup could well leave you drifting away forever.)
We used to note that pushing the envelope of duty hours, rest requirements, etc, often resulted in Class A accidents, many fatal.
Morbid comment especially when weather was involved, “Well, yeah, they died, but at least they were dead on-time.”
re: #97 Charles Johnson
With any luck, Musk and Zuckerberg will beat each other to death.
If the fight actually happens, Zuck will crush him. He’s actually in really good physical shape and has been training in Brazilian Jujutsu. Musk is an out of shape slob.
re: #122 sagehen
According to one of the New York tabloids, the death toll was John Jacob Astor, and 1500-1800 others. Mrs Astor and 739 others were saved.
The intro problem on Kaggle (AI/ML competition website) deals with Titanic survival.
TLDR:
Men were f*cked. Women in first class were pretty safe.
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