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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2023 • 10:39:56am

Does Elon Musk have a nationality or is he a true Cosmopolitan (as in a person who has no loyalty to anyone but himself)?

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2023 • 10:41:24am

To be clear, this wasn’t merely access to what Trump posted to the public, but location information and direct messages sent/received.

Trump is truly fucked, and Twitter got a hefty fine dragging its feet on the matter for good measure as Musk tried to cover for his buddy Trump.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 10, 2023 • 10:43:08am
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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 10, 2023 • 10:44:50am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 10, 2023 • 10:47:40am

🐊😢 from me

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 10, 2023 • 10:48:24am

OT: I had a tooth pulled this morning. Far back molar on my left side and holy SHIT did the dentist have to fight to get it out of there. We’ll see how my pain levels are once this numbness wears off (they gave me some Norco, which usually works for me).

On the plus side, now that the tooth is gone, I officially have no more dental issues at the moment.

On the plus plus side, I can now eat ice cream again without having extreme sensitivity in that part of my mouth. :P

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Charles Johnson  Aug 10, 2023 • 10:49:20am

re: #4 Backwoods Sleuth

Gah. She comes across exactly as I expected - a lying, jargon-spewing numbskull who got the job precisely for that reason.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 10, 2023 • 10:49:32am

re: #4 Backwoods Sleuth

If Yaccarino was any more full of shit a septic company would be hooking a hose up to her right now.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 10, 2023 • 10:52:53am
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retired cynic  Aug 10, 2023 • 10:52:55am

This is an excellent Post-Mortem, written by a good writer. He lives in a dark red county in Ohio, and has been writing about the issues for some time.

Post-Mortem on Ohio Issue 1
whatever.scalzi.com

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Dr. Matt  Aug 10, 2023 • 10:53:58am

re: #4 Backwoods Sleuth

“a liberation from Twitter.”

A liberation from Twitter for Nazis to post Nazi content.

Corrected.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2023 • 10:54:09am

re: #5 Dr. Matt

Michigan fake electors face prison after being arraigned on multiple felonies

Michigan Patriots face Persecution for Believing in Democracy!

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William Lewis  Aug 10, 2023 • 10:54:42am

A few more pictures, if you care to take a look.

Another Day, Another Drive in the Countryside

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2023 • 10:55:24am

re: #9 No Malarkey!

Trump’s response: the only acceptable date is the first of never.

The Court will likely find the prosecutor’s date acceptable and schedule accordingly.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 10, 2023 • 10:56:07am

re: #9 No Malarkey!

Happy freakin’ New Year, folks.

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TarHellion  Aug 10, 2023 • 10:59:29am

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

I was with MrsTarH last year when she had to go to the oral surgeon twice to have all of her lower teeth removed. That’s when you realize that adult teeth are like icebergs, with much of the tooth below the gum line.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 10, 2023 • 10:59:47am
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Ace Rothstein  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:03:05am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:04:15am

re: #18 Ace Rothstein

Belief in God powered the car and kept the wheels on

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:04:55am

re: #16 TarHellion

I was with MrsTarH last year when she had to go to the oral surgeon twice to have all of her lower teeth removed. That’s when you realize that adult teeth are like icebergs, with much of the tooth below the gum line.

Damn right. I hope I don’t have go through that again for a long time. Fortunately, I’ve started to take my dental hygiene (and my physical health in general) more seriously since turning 40, so hopefully that pays off down the road.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:06:54am
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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:07:36am
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Captain Ron  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:12:48am
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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:15:03am
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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:16:24am

re: #18 Ace Rothstein

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It’s equally mysterious that Fred still had skin on his feet after using them to stop the Flintmobile from freeway speeds.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:19:07am

re: #24 The GOP is a Terrorist Organization

The FBI didn’t gun him down because of the threats. They gunned him down because he was being belligerent and resisting arrest.

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Jay C  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:20:15am

re: #18 Ace Rothstein

A bigger mystery is: if that front wheel is just a stone cylinder rotating on a fixed axis, how is it “steered”, and what is that steering wheel Fred is holding attached to?

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:21:57am

re: #27 Jay C

A bigger mystery is: if that front wheel is just a stone cylinder rotating on a fixed axis, how is it “steered”, and what is that steering wheel Fed is holding attached to?

Relax. God is in control.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:24:47am
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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:29:15am
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sizzzzlerz  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:30:04am

re: #18 Ace Rothstein

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Who says there was anything. Maybe it just kept falling off but the animators cut out the cels where it fell out thus, they never show up in the cartoon.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:36:35am

re: #24 The GOP is a Terrorist Organization

I’m seeing the government do things I’ve never seen in my 40+ years of broadcasting. People have mailed credible threats to presidents for years. They’ve (rightly) been investigated for it, but I’ve never seen the FBI gun anybody down for it. Ever. This is not normal.
~Beckkk

I’m seeing the government do things I’ve never seen in my 50+ years of life…like trying overthrow the government, stage a coup, and stay in office after you were beaten in a landslide. This is not normal.

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:36:44am

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

The FBI didn’t gun him down because of the threats. They gunned him down because he was being belligerent and resisting arrest.

Being belligerent and even resisting arrest should not be sufficient grounds for using deadly force. He had to have been pointing a weapon at officers, threating to shoot or, actually shooting. After all, he was white.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:38:01am

GOPers are exiting a known and proven method of combating voter fraud - the ERIC system, which is nonpartisan and checks voter rolls between states.

Rather than finding ways to improve the existing system, they claim that the system fails to find fraud when there is no fraud to find - it’s nonstop conspiracy theories from right wingers who claim Trump lost in 2020.

They keep getting it wrong on purpose.

Trumpists are the ones who engaged in election fraud by interfering in the certification of the election results. There was no widespread voter fraud, or even a pattern of voter fraud beyond a handful of cases nationwide (many of which were later dismissed by GOPer DAs when those who committed the crimes were GOPers voting for Trump on behalf of dead or invalid relatives).

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:39:30am

re: #27 Jay C

A bigger mystery is: if that front wheel is just a stone cylinder rotating on a fixed axis, how is it “steered”, and what is that steering wheel Fed is holding attached to?

The way I’d write it: The car is slightly trapezoidal, front roller is shorter across than the rear, steering wheel shifts the two side timbers fore and aft relative to each other, turning the front axle at a greater angle than the rear due to the trapezoid.

Fast and Furious: Bedrock Drift

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:39:41am

re: #25 The GOP is a Terrorist Organization

It’s equally mysterious that Fred still had skin on his feet after using them to stop the Flintmobile from freeway speeds.

God was his brake pads

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:39:49am

re: #29 Backwoods Sleuth

When you preach Ayn Rand’s Objectivism from the pulpit your marks are going to follow the teachings of that sociopathic narcissistic asshole.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:40:05am

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

The FBI didn’t gun him down because of the threats. They gunned him down because he was being belligerent and resisting arrest.

If he had only complied

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:43:03am

re: #29 Backwoods Sleuth

“many evangelical pastors have become alarmed that their Trump-loving congregants have become so militant that they are even rejecting the teachings of Jesus Christ.”

It is times like this when I thank God for giving our Founding Fathers the Divine Foresight to separate Church and State. This is a classic example of the rabbit hole religions would lead us to if it were institutionalized..

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Dave In Austin  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:44:09am
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Captain Ron  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:45:23am
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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:46:40am
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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:48:29am
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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:51:03am
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Captain Ron  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:52:07am
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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:52:35am

re: #44 Backwoods Sleuth

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More proof that the Republican Party has become The Flaming Asshole Party

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Dave In Austin  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:52:44am

Irony…… This ad is in Luna’s thread.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:53:27am
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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:56:26am

re: #48 Backwoods Sleuth

And yet Tiny Tim Scott still recites the Party Line that there is no such thing as Global Warming…

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:56:26am

re: #19 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Silly, the car was powered courtesy of Fred’s two feet.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:56:45am

re: #28 Ace Rothstein

Relax. God is in control.

Jesus took the wheel. Ask Carrie Underwood.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:58:05am

re: #49 Joe Bacon ✅

And yet Tiny Tim Scott still recites the Party Line that there is no such thing as Global Warming…

Which they will continue to do as the planet burns around them.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:58:09am

re: #33 sizzzzlerz

Being belligerent and even resisting arrest should not be sufficient grounds for using deadly force. He had to have been pointing a weapon at officers, threating to shoot or, actually shooting. After all, he was white.

As he promised to do.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 10, 2023 • 11:59:20am

Always entertaining

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:01:28pm

re: #33 sizzzzlerz

Being belligerent and even resisting arrest should not be sufficient grounds for using deadly force. He had to have been pointing a weapon at officers, threating to shoot or, actually shooting. After all, he was white.

He had already threatened to kill them if they came. Probably didn’t take much of a threatening move to set the officers off.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:01:43pm

re: #40 Dave In Austin

OMG! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:05:03pm

re: #52 Eclectic Cyborg

Which they will continue to do as the planet burns around them.

Tiny Tim Scott will continue with his denial of Global Warming even when Charleston and Myrtle Beach sink into the sea.

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:06:09pm

re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is times like this when I thank God for giving our Founding Fathers the Divine Foresight to separate Church and State. This is a classic example of the rabbit hole religions would lead us to if it were institutionalized..

IMO it wasn’t foresight that led the founders to have separation of church and state — they knew their history, and Europe had just had centuries of religious wars.

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:08:42pm

Phew!

Influencer and rapper Lil Tay has confirmed she is alive after a post on her official verified Instagram account claimed that both she and her brother Jason Tian had ‘unexpectedly’ died.

dailymail.co.uk

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:10:09pm

re: #55 Eventual Carrion

He had already threatened to kill them if they came. Probably didn’t take much of a threatening move to set the officers off.

One less Trump voter. I fail to see the problem with that.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:11:32pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:15:14pm

re: #40 Dave In Austin

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“If you want my gun, come spank me for it”

That needs to be on a t-shirt.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:22:49pm

“They want to be the agents, not the victims, of history. They identify with God’s power and believe they are godlike. That is their basic madness. They are overcome by some archetype; their egos have expanded psychotically so that they cannot tell where they begin and the godhead leaves off. It is not hubris, not pride; it is inflation of the ego to its ultimate confusion between him who worships and that which is worshipped. Man has not eaten God; God has eaten man.”
― Philip K. Dick, The Man in the High Castle

I think I need to watch that again. Maybe we all do.

stonekettle.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:23:52pm

re: #14 lawhawk

Trump’s response: the only acceptable date is the first of never.

The Court will likely find the prosecutor’s date acceptable and schedule accordingly.

This afternoon, an expert on MSNBC claimed that the date was too soon because the start date for selecting jurors was December 11 and, given the holiday season and the complexities in the selection process for this trial, there would be insufficient time to empanel a jury by the proposed January 4 date.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:26:12pm

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does Elon Musk have a nationality or is he a true Cosmopolitan (as in a person who has no loyalty to anyone but himself)?

His loyalty is obviously only to himself and his narcissistic delusion that he’s saving mankind.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:26:46pm

They Fucked Around And Found Out That Now They Got A Problem.

It’s Suddenly Dawning On Republicans That They Have A Major Abortion Problem

Republicans are reeling this week, days after Ohio voters handily defeated a ballot initiative widely understood to be a proxy fight for a coming proposal to enshrine abortion protections in the state constitution.

And yet Republicans are still pushing the Radical Xtian position on stamping out abortion and birth control.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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William Lewis  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:27:15pm

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does Elon Musk have a nationality or is he a true Cosmopolitan (as in a person who has no loyalty to anyone but himself)?

Is he a US citizen? If not, he needs to be deported.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:28:42pm

Bye, Boris Manchin. Let the door hit you where the Good Lawd split ya

Manchin ‘thinking seriously’ about leaving the Democratic Party: report

United States Senator Joe Manchin (D-West Virginia) told radio host Hoppy Kercheval on Thursday that he is considering leaving the Democratic Party, lamenting the “extremes” that he believes have developed inside each political camp. Senator Kyrsten Sinema (I-Arizona) shared similar concerns when she switched to Independent in December 2022.

“I want to be able to speak honestly about, basically, the extremes of the Democrat and Republican Party that is harming our nation,” Manchin said, per NBC News’ Julie Tsirkin.

alternet.org

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:29:45pm

Finally heard from a friend on Maui. Thankfully she and her family are central, away from the fires. They didn’t have to evacuate or anything. But the death toll is going to be staggering. She’s guessing hundreds.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:30:14pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:31:26pm

re: #62 Dr. Matt

“If you want my gun, come spank me for it”

That needs to be on a t-shirt.

Not too hard… But hard enough!

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William Lewis  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:33:01pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:33:07pm

Has Gym Jordan announced launching an investigation yet into why the FBI is gunning down innocent POTUS-threatening MAGA Americans?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:37:36pm

re: #73 Dr. Matt

Has Gym Jordan announced launching an investigation yet into why the FBI is gunning down innocent POTUS-threatening MAGA Americans?

No, but that announcement will probably coincide with Trump’s Georgia indictment.

And with that, have a good one, Lizards and stay healthy.

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:39:03pm

re: #2 lawhawk

To be clear, this wasn’t merely access to what Trump posted to the public, but location information and direct messages sent/received.

Trump is truly fucked, and Twitter got a hefty fine dragging its feet on the matter for good measure as Musk tried to cover for his buddy Trump.

Here’s an amusing detail about that fine — it started at $50K and for each day of noncompliance a new daily fine was assessed that was 2x the previous day’s fine.

X/Twitter stopped the bleeding at $350K.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:39:18pm

re: #22 lawhawk

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they left a part out: “defendent knows what he did”

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:43:24pm

re: #18 Ace Rothstein

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It’s simple, really: Cartoon physics.

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:44:23pm

re: #77 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

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It’s simple, really: Cartoon physics.

E.g., after running off the edge of a cliff, the coyote only starts to fall after looking down.

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Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:44:59pm

re: #61 Dave In Austin

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This is a spoof, isn’t it?

ISN’T IT????

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:45:41pm

re: #66 Joe Bacon ✅

They Fucked Around And Found Out That Now They Got A Problem.

It’s Suddenly Dawning On Republicans That They Have A Major Abortion Problem

Republicans are reeling this week, days after Ohio voters handily defeated a ballot initiative widely understood to be a proxy fight for a coming proposal to enshrine abortion protections in the state constitution.

And yet Republicans are still pushing the Radical Xtian position on stamping out abortion and birth control.

talkingpointsmemo.com

They can’t stop. The people who call themselves “Conservative” have been brainwashing their kids for decades now to focus them on stripping American women of their rights. We now have adults who have been indoctrinated into this scheme from birth.

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:45:56pm

re: #66 Joe Bacon ✅

They Fucked Around And Found Out That Now They Got A Problem.

It’s Suddenly Dawning On Republicans That They Have A Major Abortion Problem

And yet Republicans are still pushing the Radical Xtian position on stamping out abortion and birth control.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Like being unable to remove their thin, pursed, lips from being firmly planted on TFG’s flabby, orange ass, they simply cannot give up their dreams on complete control of a woman’s medical care. Even when they know it can lead to the complete and utter destruction.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:46:58pm

re: #69 GlutenFreeJesus

Glad they’re OK and your friend may well be right: Looking at all these burned-out cars, on the streets and in garages, that sort of tells me a lot of people simply had no time to escape.

mauinow.com

Time to call it a day.

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Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:47:26pm

Butthead in real life:

Mastodon

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:47:45pm

re: #81 sizzzzlerz

Like being unable to remove their thin, pursed, lips from being firmly planted on TFG’s flabby, orange ass, they simply cannot give up their dreams on complete control of a woman’s medical care. Even when they know it can lead to the complete and utter destruction.

The 5 true believers on SCOTUS were too stupid to follow Roberts’ plan of continuing to subject abortion access to Kennedy’s death of a thousand cuts.

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danarchy  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:48:37pm

re: #67 William Lewis

Is he a US citizen? If not, he needs to be deported.

Has been since 2002.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:48:59pm

re: #68 Joe Bacon ✅

Bye, Boris Manchin. Let the door hit you where the Good Lawd split ya

Manchin ‘thinking seriously’ about leaving the Democratic Party: report

United States Senator Joe Manchin (D-West Virginia) told radio host Hoppy Kercheval on Thursday that he is considering leaving the Democratic Party, lamenting the “extremes” that he believes have developed inside each political camp. Senator Kyrsten Sinema (I-Arizona) shared similar concerns when she switched to Independent in December 2022.

“I want to be able to speak honestly about, basically, the extremes of the Democrat and Republican Party that is harming our nation,” Manchin said, per NBC News’ Julie Tsirkin.

alternet.org

Unfortunately he will be replaced by a MAGAt who will vote against any Biden nominations or proposals. As bad as Manchin is, he’s a million times better than any replacement.

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darthstar  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:49:05pm

Drinking at the source today.

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:50:25pm

re: #86 Hecuba’s daughter

Unfortunately he will be replaced by a MAGAt who will vote against Biden nomination or proposal. As bad as Manchin is, he’s a million times better than any replacement.

There comes a time when absolute opposition from mortal enemies is less aggravating than fuckups who are supposedly on our side (sometimes).

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:50:52pm

re: #79 Vicious Babushka

This is a spoof, isn’t it?

ISN’T IT????

Yep. He’s a comedian.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:51:57pm

re: #66 Joe Bacon ✅

They Fucked Around And Found Out That Now They Got A Problem.

It’s Suddenly Dawning On Republicans That They Have A Major Abortion Problem

Republicans are reeling this week, days after Ohio voters handily defeated a ballot initiative widely understood to be a proxy fight for a coming proposal to enshrine abortion protections in the state constitution.

And yet Republicans are still pushing the Radical Xtian position on stamping out abortion and birth control.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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“You’ve had three in a row where that case hasn’t been made or is not resonant, and these are not close. In modern American politics, these are blowouts!”

— Steve Bannon, quoted by MSN, on the anti-abortion movement’s string of losses.

and

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Trae Crowder: “Did they think people were going to line up around the block to disenfranchise themselves?”

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Jay C  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:52:35pm

re: #73 Dr. Matt

Has Gym Jordan announced launching an investigation yet into why the FBI is gunning down innocent POTUS-threatening MAGA Americans?

I realize it’s baseless speculation*, but I’m thinking there’s more to the Craig Robertson story than is getting out into the media: checking Google News, THIS is the latest item they had: (Salt Lake Tribune): the usual “neighbors-say” stuff about what a nice guy he was (if noted as a political crank and a determined gun nut). Just a WAG, but I’m thinking he probably showed up at his door strapped and/or brandishing when the FBI came to serve that warrant, and they plugged him, rather than take chances. That this is likely not a case of “innocent citizen cruelly gunned down by jackbooted government thugs” is probably why the usual monkeys haven’t been flinging shit over it that much….

*but then, what’s the Internet for?

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darthstar  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:52:50pm

re: #90 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

No! Everything’s fine! Don’t change now, Republicans.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:53:00pm

re: #83 Vicious Babushka

Butthead in real life:

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And SMOTI and Log Cabin types continue to back the GQP. Fucking zombie assholes.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:53:02pm

re: #75 EPR-radar

Here’s an amusing detail about that fine — it started at $50K and for each day of noncompliance a new daily fine was assessed that was 2x the previous day’s fine.

X/Twitter stopped the bleeding at $350K.

an excellent model to reuse…

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:56:35pm

re: #68 Joe Bacon ✅

Bye, Boris Manchin. Let the door hit you where the Good Lawd split ya

Manchin ‘thinking seriously’ about leaving the Democratic Party: report

United States Senator Joe Manchin (D-West Virginia) told radio host Hoppy Kercheval on Thursday that he is considering leaving the Democratic Party, lamenting the “extremes” that he believes have developed inside each political camp. Senator Kyrsten Sinema (I-Arizona) shared similar concerns when she switched to Independent in December 2022.

“I want to be able to speak honestly about, basically, the extremes of the Democrat and Republican Party that is harming our nation,” Manchin said, per NBC News’ Julie Tsirkin.

alternet.org

if he runs for reelection as an Indie, he’ll lose and then no one will listen to him about anything anymore

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:57:03pm

re: #29 Backwoods Sleuth

…but is this really new?

Muscular Christianity has been around for awhile; harshness and violence as a Christian act, if we just contain our observations to Americans Christians, is a highly developed rhetoric. What Moore is observing is the boomerang effect: the logic once used for clearly-defined others—mostly brown, mostly far away—is now being applied in the domestic sphere in ways that don’t follow his assumptions. The process of turning the Bible from excuse-maker for monarchs and empire to excuse-maker for slavers and factory bosses to excuse-maker for fascists has been perfected. Their Jesus is an occult Jesus who anodyne words are actually code for hierarchy and eugenics and all the violence required to keep those things locked in: their exegesis simply does not require the text or a priesthood because the new prophets are rich, cruel assholes…and their richness and their ability to get way with shit is the marker of their blessing.

I’m tired of these guys that built the Frankenstein machines doing op-eds about how shocking it is when the Frankenstein comes out the end of the assembly line.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2023 • 12:58:58pm

Well, this is surprisingly good news from SCOTUS.

The Sacklers were able to avoid personal liability from additional lawsuits from their purposeful lies about oxycontin addictiveness as part of the bankruptcy plan, and the SCOTUS has decided that the immunity provision was a bridge too far. They’ve put the Purdue Pharma bankruptcy plan on hold.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:05:48pm

re: #83 Vicious Babushka

Butthead in real life:

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Paging The Church of Satan.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:06:03pm

re: #73 Dr. Matt

Has Gym Jordan announced launching an investigation yet into why the FBI is gunning down innocent POTUS-threatening MAGA Americans?

If Gym Neighbors hasn’t done it yet, Comer Pyle will.

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Captain Ron  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:07:55pm
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Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:08:37pm

re: #89 Hecuba’s daughter

Yep. He’s a comedian.

When he said “she almost fell off the pole!” I knew it had to be a joke.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:09:59pm

re: #96 The Ghost of a Flea

An example of “Muscular Xtianity”

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Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:11:01pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:14:48pm

re: #103 Vicious Babushka

This whole “fight me” thing is juvenile. Profoundly juvenile. Elon Musk’s assets should be confiscated on the grounds that we can’t afford to have a toddler billionaire.

Of course, we can’t afford to have any other kind of billionaire either, but one step at a time.

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William Lewis  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:15:56pm

re: #97 lawhawk

Well, this is surprisingly good news from SCOTUS.

The Sacklers were able to avoid personal liability from additional lawsuits from their purposeful lies about oxycontin addictiveness as part of the bankruptcy plan, and the SCOTUS has decided that the immunity provision was a bridge too far. They’ve put the Purdue Pharma bankruptcy plan on hold.

Huh. Wonder what grift of Roberts was threatened by this going forward?

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Dr. Matt  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:17:06pm

re: #103 Vicious Babushka

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A debate? Isn’t that for betas?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:23:07pm

re: #105 William Lewis

Huh. Wonder what grift of Roberts was threatened by this going forward?

Maybe the Sacklers just can’t afford a SCOTUS Justice.

Half /

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:23:14pm

re: #66 Joe Bacon ✅

They Fucked Around And Found Out That Now They Got A Problem.

It’s Suddenly Dawning On Republicans That They Have A Major Abortion Problem

And yet Republicans are still pushing the Radical Xtian position on stamping out abortion and birth control.

Even Trump had the sense to advise them to tone down the rhetoric, but they do not see this as as political struggle, this is a moral and ideological one and they have made it clear that overturning Roe v Wade was only the start of their assault on Planned Prentood both as an institution and as planned parenhood as a concept.

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:24:59pm

re: #106 Dr. Matt

A debate? Is that for betas?

Maybe. One thing for sure is that debates are only useful if both sides are operating in good faith (e.g., Bohr-Einstein). Thus debating with conservatives is a waste of time, no different than doing so with a creationist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:25:35pm

re: #97 lawhawk

The Supreme Court put the bankruptcy reorganization of opioid maker Purdue Pharma on hold Thursday over objections to a provision in the deal that protects the Sackler family from liability for lawsuits:.

I thought that is what modern capitalism is about; sucking the money out of a corporation and parking it where it is safe from litigation and then letting the company go tits-up.

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:27:12pm

re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I thought tht is what modern capitalism is about; sucking the money out of a corporation and parking it where it is safe from litigation and then letting the company go tits-up.

Naturally. However, if this SOP is accompanied by sufficiently egregious personal fraud, it may be time for an example to be made.

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jaunte  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:28:52pm

Fani Willis Responds To Trump Attacks On Her In An Incredible Email to Her Staff
“Your instruction from me is to ignore all the noise and keep doing your job with excellence.”
meidastouch.com

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Florida Panhandler  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:29:00pm

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does Elon Musk have a nationality or is he a true Cosmopolitan (as in a person who has no loyalty to anyone but himself)?

It turns out the right wing boogeyman “Global Elite” slur actually seems to exist, and it turns out it is championed by a high-achieving idiot right wing dude-bro. Figures.

There is a new class of person, the multi-billionaire, who has the ability to literally purchase an entire state or nation. .Elon in particular displays a constant pandering of authoritarianism, its commands and abusive nature, and a serious disdain for democracy with its liberal notions of decency in general. This is an emerging warlord system.

This should go well.

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jaunte  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:30:10pm

Someone (Trump’s suckers) is spending a lot of money on this weak smear.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:30:22pm

re: #112 jaunte

Fani Willis Responds To Trump Attacks On Her In An Incredible Email to Her Staff
“Your instruction from me is to ignore all the noise and keep doing your job with excellence.”
meidastouch.com

I really appreciate how black women are so adamant about NOT taking any shit from Donald Trump.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:30:59pm

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The modern rich are like the feudal lords of old. They have no relationship to geography, other than a source of power and wealth.

They are unconcerned with the people who actually live in places, who try to raise families and futures there. The serfs are something to be used, to destruction if necessary.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:31:24pm

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Even Trump had the sense to advise them to tone down the rhetoric, but they do not see this as as political struggle, this is a moral and ideological one and they have made it clear that overturning Roe v Wade was only the start of their assault on Planned Prentood both as an institution and as planned parenhood as a concept.

Unlike Pence, Trump cares nothing about abortion — or any religious issue. He is totally amoral. But he does care about policies that may hamper his ability to be elected in a general election.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:31:52pm

Well look who has risen from his coffin

Ex-Bush aide warns Biden impeachment could ‘unleash an internal Republican civil war’

Former White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer, during an appearance on Fox News’ “The Story With Martha MacCallum,” suggested it wasn’t clear to him that House Republicans fully understand the implications of pursuing an impeachment inquiry.

CNN reports that privately many House Republicans think it’s a “foregone conclusion” that the House will pursue impeaching Biden over his son’s business entanglements.

“Impeachment is not a slippery slope. It’s a one-way path. And there’s only one way to go once you start an inquiry,” Fleischer said.

“If House Republicans start an impeachment inquiry, there’s no stopping it, and that’s what they need to recognize. They will unleash an internal Republican Civil War. If they start the inquiry and they don’t proceed to impeachment, and they may not have the votes to impeach, which could ultimately be the worst biggest backfire for Republicans.”

Note how Ari keeps his eyes closed. No matter how hard he wishes Tinkerbelle won’t come to his rescue!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:32:18pm

re: #113 Florida Panhandler

yes, part of my understanding of citizenship is that my personal well-being is closely connected to the well-being of the nation as a whole, which comprises a lot of my motivation to work in the nation’s interest as much as my own

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:33:27pm

re: #116 Romantic Heretic

The modern rich are like the feudal lords of old. They have no relationship to geography, other than a source of power and wealth.

They are unconcerned with the people who actually live in places, who try to raise families and futures there. The serfs are something to be used, to destruction if necessary.

Think about Europe’s Hapsburgs or Bourbons. Nations and peoples were just properties on a Monopoly board

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:34:11pm

re: #103 Vicious Babushka

I’ve stated my opinion on this fight as Spectacle designed to distract, but if I were Zuckerberg I’d point out that the whole thing was Musk’s idea, that Musk has a 6 1/2 inch height advantage, a concomitant reach advantage, and yet he’s the one who keeps finding new pathetic ways to bitch out.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:36:43pm

re: #121 goddamnedfrank

I’ve stated my opinion on this fight as Spectacle designed to distract, but if I were Zuckerberg I’d point out that the whole thing was Musk’s idea, that Musk has a 6 1/2 inch height advantage, a concomitant reach advantage, and yet he’s the one who keeps finding new pathetic ways to bitch out.

We’ve seen Musk with his shirt off. He should stop pretending to be a tough guy.

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:40:40pm

re: #118 Joe Bacon ✅

Ari has no concern about the fact that a GOP impeachment of Biden would be a pure partisan with hunt.

His only concern is if the GOP attempts it and fails to get enough votes in the House.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:41:46pm

re: #123 EPR-radar

Ari has no concern about the fact that a GOP impeachment of Biden would be a pure partisan with hunt.

His only concern is if the GOP attempts it and fails to get enough votes in the House.

Fleischer is despicable. I hate him almost as much as I detest Dumbya and THE DICK.

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:42:42pm

re: #124 Joe Bacon ✅

Fleischer is despicable. I hate him almost as much as I detest Dumbya and THE DICK.

I simple assume all Republicans are evil. It is one hell of a time saver, since the counter examples are few and far between.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:44:50pm

re: #122 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

We’ve seen Musk with his shirt off. He should stop pretending to be a tough guy.

Listen, even if you can’t see it fat guys have the muscle to move that fat around and are a real short term threat up close and personal. Anybody can get rocked by a lucky punch and reach matters. Zuck will still need to drag the fight on for cardio to shift things in his favor.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:45:25pm

re: #125 EPR-radar

I simple assume all Republicans are evil. It is one hell of a time saver, since the counter examples are few and far between.

It is more complicated than that, of course.
My brother’s family are evangelical christians who vote for Republicans.

If you watch CNN, you’ve seen ads about a group that takes handicapped kids out on a boat fishing. My brother volunteers with that group.

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William Lewis  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:50:03pm

re: #127 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

It is more complicated than that, of course.
My brother’s family are evangelical christians who vote for Republicans.

If you watch CNN, you’ve seen ads about a group that takes handicapped kids out on a boat fishing. My brother volunteers with that group.

If they support Trump that is insufficient grounds to give me any reason to think they are decent people. It’s not enough. Someone needs to look them in the eye and tell them that they are not good Christians just because one little thing forgives the evil they do daily.

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Captain Ron  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:53:57pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:54:13pm

re: #129 jaunte

Last month, Houston-based startup Fervo announced the successful test of a first-of-its kind commercial-scale power plant, which uses the shale oil drilling innovations to produce zero-emission geothermal energy. While horizontal drilling allows oil producers to access new seams of fossil fuels, in Fervo’s case, the company is drilling sideways into hot, porous rocks heated by tectonic activity.

Well frack my cracky!!!

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Dragonomics  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:55:06pm

re: #97 lawhawk

Putting a case “on hold” is a few certain justices’ method of extorting more gifts out of the Sacklers.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:56:58pm

re: #128 William Lewis

If they support Trump that is insufficient grounds to give me any reason to think they are decent people. It’s not enough. Someone needs to look them in the eye and tell them that they are not good Christians just because one little thing forgives the evil they do daily.

The fact remains that they are pretty decent but misguided people whether you accept it or not. People are complicated.

I don’t know if they support Trump anymore, but think they may have abandoned him based just on a comment from my brother. I wish I could remember what it was specifically, but I do remember that it was not flattering to Trump.

Of course they’ll move on to another asshole because of the brainwashing, but their intentions are good. They’re not online-Republicans spewing hate at anyone.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:58:20pm
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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 10, 2023 • 1:59:50pm
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:02:14pm

re: #118 Joe Bacon ✅

“Impeachment is not a slippery slope. It’s a one-way path. And there’s only one way to go once you start an inquiry,” Fleischer said.

If they start the inquiry and they don’t proceed to impeachment, and they may not have the votes to impeach, which could ultimately be the worst biggest backfire for Republicans.”

Everyone knew what Clinton didn’t do
(neither high crime nor misdemeanor)

Everyone knew what Trump did
(the jury was stacked and shameless)

Everyone knew what Trump did the second time
(the jury was stacked and shameless, again)

Everyone knows what Biden didn’t do
.:. Please proceed

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:04:42pm

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yes, part of my understanding of citizenship is that my personal well-being is closely connected to the well-being of the nation as a whole, which comprises a lot of my motivation to work in the nation’s interest as much as my own

it’s the civilian version of the moral logic of common sacrifice

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:07:10pm

re: #127 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

It is more complicated than that, of course.
My brother’s family are evangelical christians who vote for Republicans.

If you watch CNN, you’ve seen ads about a group that takes handicapped kids out on a boat fishing. My brother volunteers with that group.

In the moral calculus of life taking some disabled kids fishing doesn’t really balance out voting to deny them the social safety net that things like expanding Medicaid would provide. I know several conservatives who love to advertise their charitable activity, completely unbidden, it’s a performative tell that the hand they’re holding is weak.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:10:14pm

re: #138 goddamnedfrank

In the moral calculus of life taking some disabled kids fishing doesn’t really balance out voting to deny them the social safety net that things like expanding Medicaid would provide. I know several conservatives who love to advertise their charitable activity, completely unbidden, it’s a performative tell that the hand they’re holding is weak.

after all that professed brotherhood and fellowship inside, watch how they drive emptying out the parking lot after sunday morning services

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jeffreyw  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:10:30pm

Dancing in the woods

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jaunte  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:11:12pm

re: #139 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Well, after noon you can buy liquor.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:11:19pm

re: #139 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

after all that professed brotherhood and fellowship inside, watch how they drive emptying out the parking lot after sunday morning services

and then go verbally abuse and fail to tip a restaurant service person

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:12:36pm

re: #134 Backwoods Sleuth

Soocom is entirely nuts from propaganda and is not having a good time.

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William Lewis  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:13:57pm

re: #141 jaunte

Well, after noon 8 am in Wisconsin 😎 you can buy liquor.

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jaunte  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:14:24pm

@mjsdc.bsky.social

Conservative, originalist law professors Will Baude and Michael Stokes Paulsen have a new paper out arguing that Section 3 of the 14th Amendment disqualifies Donald Trump from holding public office and that “the case is not even close.”papers.ssrn.com

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jaunte  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:15:23pm

re: #144 William Lewis

Blue laws in Texas penalize anyone who can’t plan 12 hours of sobriety.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:16:36pm

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:20:43pm

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Even Trump had the sense to advise them to tone down the rhetoric, but they do not see this as as political struggle, this is a moral and ideological one and they have made it clear that overturning Roe v Wade was only the start of their assault on Planned Prentood both as an institution and as planned parenhood as a concept.

Let’s not forget though that Trump told Chris Matthews in 2016 that women who have abortions should be punished. So fuck him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:24:37pm

re: #148 Ace Rothstein

Let’s not forget though that Trump told Chris Matthews in 2016 that women who have abortions should be punished. So fuck him.

He says whatever he thinks people need to hear at the time.

But at least in a ta tical sense, he is correct in advising the GOP to tone down the anti-abortion message but that is not about to happen, they sense victory in the air and are going continue with pushing a nationwide abortion ban.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:24:49pm

re: #143 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Soocom is entirely nuts from propaganda and is not having a good time.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:26:32pm

re: #86 Hecuba’s daughter

Unfortunately he will be replaced by a MAGAt who will vote against any Biden nominations or proposals. As bad as Manchin is, he’s a million times better than any replacement.

If Manchin crosses the aisle, he’ll be primaried in the next election.

His WVA base are voters who hold their nose and vote for a non-republican candidate.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:26:55pm

re: #149 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How do they sense victory in the air when every time a state proposal comes up they get their faces blasted off?

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:27:00pm

re: #133 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

The fact remains that they are pretty decent but misguided people whether you accept it or not. People are complicated.

I don’t know if they support Trump anymore, but think they may have abandoned him based just on a comment from my brother. I wish I could remember what it was specifically, but I do remember that it was not flattering to Trump.

Of course they’ll move on to another asshole because of the brainwashing, but their intentions are good. They’re not online-Republicans spewing hate at anyone.

The other fact is that every time they vote for Republicans, they are objectively voting for the rule of evil in America. Both facts are true, so it is difficult.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:27:57pm

re: #152 Ace Rothstein

How do they sense victory in the air when every time a state proposal comes up they get their faces blasted off?

Because they are majorly delusional.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:28:22pm

In ruby red Kansas last year, a proposal to ban abortion got destroyed by twenty points.

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:30:20pm

re: #148 Ace Rothstein

Let’s not forget though that Trump told Chris Matthews in 2016 that women who have abortions should be punished. So fuck him.

Because he thought that this was the official pro-life party line. It is, of course, but saying it out loud is verboten, then and (less so) now.

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aatharuv  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:31:05pm

re: #41 Captain Ron

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:31:07pm

re: #152 Ace Rothstein

How do they sense victory in the air when every time a state proposal comes up they get their faces blasted off?

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:31:50pm

re: #152 Ace Rothstein

How do they sense victory in the air when every time a state proposal comes up they get their faces blasted off?

Because they think they are on a mission from God.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:33:54pm

re: #152 Ace Rothstein

How do they sense victory in the air when every time a state proposal comes up they get their faces blasted off?

Because they constructed a win-win proposition in which they can still impede meaningful change in the minority, make money through patronage and donations whether they win or loss, and understand that their real agenda—preserving a status quo in which the local gentry are massively subsidized while workers are stymied—advances on the local level no matter what state and national elections bring.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:37:21pm

re: #132 Dragonomics

Putting a case “on hold” is a few certain justices’ method of extorting more gifts out of the Sacklers.

More like how they can leverage this case to get out from under the ethics situation they find themselves currently in.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:38:46pm

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aatharuv  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:42:03pm

Conservative Legal Scholars Baude and Paulsen: Donald Trump Disqualified to Serve as President Under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment
electionlawblog.org

First, Section Three remains an enforceable part of the Constitution, not limited to the Civil War, and not effectively repealed by nineteenth century amnesty legislation. Second, Section Three is self-executing, operating as an immediate disqualification from office, without the need for additional action by Congress. It can and should be enforced by every official, state or federal, who judges qualifications. Third, to the extent of any conflict with prior constitutional rules, Section Three repeals, supersedes, or simply satisfies them. This includes the rules against bills of attainder or ex post facto laws, the Due Process Clause, and even the free speech principles of the First Amendment. Fourth, Section Three covers a broad range of conduct against the authority of the constitutional order, including many instances of indirect participation or support as “aid or comfort.” It covers a broad range of former offices, including the Presidency. And in particular, it disqualifies former President Donald Trump, and potentially many others, because of their participation in the attempted overthrow of the 2020 presidential election.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:42:28pm

re: #141 jaunte

Well, after noon you can buy liquor.

Depends on the FL county as to what time on Sunday you can purchase adult beverages.

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sagehen  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:43:22pm

re: #163 aatharuv

Conservative Legal Scholars Baude and Paulsen: Donald Trump Disqualified to Serve as President Under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment
electionlawblog.org

um…. doesn’t that require he be convicted?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:46:02pm

Conservative social and fiscal policy are both expressions of their view of caste—that hierarchy is good and that government functions to perpetuate it.

The fiscal policy maintains the hierarchy explicitly—money goes to the better kinds of people, ideally a kind of Taylorist government policy is applied to the inferior kinds of people to extract more value from them.

The social policy is the enforcement of the hierarchy through state violence, but they’re doing a lot of calculation about how to get what they want—to control people such that their bodies are not their own—without making it explicit that they want total control and will build a state to enforce this.

The former is always at play and generally successful, because meritocracy and “individual responsibility” are not prions exclusively found in rightist skulls.

The latter is always at play but with a lot of calculation about how much they can get away with creating the dual state—a prerogative state that grants them license and a normative state that hammer the rest of us—because if they’re too honest they’ll get pushback.

Right now, you’re seeing reactionaries who are very confident…or are accelerationist and willing to start a real fight—say things out loud because they perceive an ascending arc.

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:47:30pm

re: #165 sagehen

um…. doesn’t that require he be convicted?

Not in any originalist interpretation. The idea was to ban ex-confederate traitors, and there is no apparent need for a prior criminal trial in each case convicting said traitors of being traitors.

A hearing before an official charged with enforcing candidate qualifications would suffice.

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:49:10pm

re: #166 The Ghost of a Flea

Another motive for near-term GOP fascism is that if they don’t end democracy soon, they may lose the power to do so via demographic change.

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William Lewis  Aug 10, 2023 • 2:59:22pm

Holy Crap!

So here’s some one I did NOT expect to see an interview with.

ABBA Interview: Björn Ulvaeus On Making ABBA’s Timeless Hits

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Dr. Matt  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:04:17pm

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does Elon Musk have a nationality or is he a true Cosmopolitan (as in a person who has no loyalty to anyone but himself)?

Is Albino Land Manatee a nationality?

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jaunte  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:06:09pm

Doctor, my eyes.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:08:04pm

re: #170 Dr. Matt

Is Albino Land Manatee a nationality?

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The Great White Nope.

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Captain Ron  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:09:36pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:09:54pm

re: #171 jaunte

Doctor, my eyes.

Sorry. I should have put a “not safe without eye protection” warning.

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gocart mozart  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:11:50pm

Fuck these people.

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jaunte  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:13:05pm

re: #175 gocart mozart

He should experiment by making a credible threat and then pointing a rifle at investigators.

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gocart mozart  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:13:42pm
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Captain Ron  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:16:04pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:21:36pm

re: #178 Captain Ron

The stupid orange fucker really just thinks it’s all just going to go away if he takes office again in January 2025?

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:22:26pm

re: #175 gocart mozart

Amazing how upset they get when law enforcement kills someone.
//

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:24:27pm

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

The stupid orange fucker really just thinks it’s all just going to go away if he takes office again in January 2025?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:24:52pm

re: #173 Captain Ron

Since when do facts matter to such a partisan asshole as Turdley?

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darthstar  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:25:55pm
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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:26:35pm

When FOX calls you on your shit

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jaunte  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:30:06pm

re: #184 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

“Many members of his family”

???

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:30:31pm

Two questions re Tuberville

Does he pay state income tax/ What’s the address on his tax return?

And where does he vote?

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:31:13pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:32:02pm

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

The stupid orange fucker really just thinks it’s all just going to go away if he takes office again in January 2025?

If, God forbid, Trump takes office as president in Jan 2025, then yes, there is an excellent chance all his legal problems will go away, likely by being submerged in larger problems as he orders Federal troops (or the Proud Boys acting as his SA) to act vs. inconvenient state-level officials.

A sitting president, aided and abetted in his corruption by the wholly corrupt Republican party, has a tremendous amount of power that can be abused. Add to that the complete lack of restraint that Trump would have in a second term as a resentful narcissist nursing a grudge, and it really is a nightmare scenario.

And every supposedly decent person who will vote for Trump in 2024 is, in fact, voting for the ruin of the US.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:32:21pm

The Onion’s Exclusive Interview With Mike Pence

theonion.com

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Vicious Babushka  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:32:41pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:33:25pm
192
DodgerFan1988  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:33:27pm


“But it’s transgender people who sexualize children!”

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:35:09pm

re: #188 EPR-radar

If, God forbid, Trump takes office as president in Jan 2025, then yes, there is an excellent chance all his legal problems will go away, likely by being submerged in larger problems as he orders Federal troops (or the Proud Boys acting as his SA) to act vs. inconvenient state-level officials.

A sitting president, aided and abetted in his corruption by the wholly corrupt Republican party, has a tremendous amount of power that can be abused. Add to that the complete lack of restraint that Trump would have in a second term as a resentful narcissist nursing a grudge, and it really is a nightmare scenario.

And every supposedly decent person who will vote for Trump in 2024 is, in fact, voting for the ruin of the US.

I’m hoping that that number is very low. I agree that it’s a bright line. Anyone who votes for Trump after the coup attempt is a monster, or too stupid to be unsupervised.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:37:09pm

re: #192 DodgerFan1988

I won’t post the photo out of respect for the kid, but I’m guessing it’s the one of her and her dad going to the movies recently.

And if it is, FUCK this guy. She looks like a typical 14-year old.

195
jaunte  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:37:49pm

re: #192 DodgerFan1988

196
jaunte  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:38:29pm

re: #192 DodgerFan1988

Check Slapinki’s devices.

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:39:00pm

re: #193 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

I’m hoping that that number is very low. I agree that it’s a bright line. Anyone who votes for Trump after the coup attempt is a monster, or too stupid to be unsupervised.

Regrettably, that number will be the usual GOP floor of 45% or so of the electorate. Only the mushy middle can be swayed by the fact that Trump is a traitor, and even that is a shallow effect that can be messed up if Biden has a bad hair day.

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:39:50pm

re: #196 jaunte

Check Slapinki’s devices.

This. Every right wing accusation is a confession via projection.

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Captain Ron  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:44:20pm

Hahahahahaha..

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:45:27pm

re: #197 EPR-radar

Regrettably, that number will be the usual GOP floor of 45% or so of the electorate. Only the mushy middle can be swayed by the fact that Trump is a traitor, and even that is a shallow effect that can be messed up if Biden has a bad hair day.

Eugene V. Debs got 6% of the vote running from prison, and he was an actual political prisoner, locked up for speaking against the war, rather than a rapist and coup plotter.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:45:53pm

re: #194 Eclectic Cyborg

I won’t post the photo out of respect for the kid, but I’m guessing it’s the one of her and her dad going to the movies recently.

And if it is, FUCK this guy. She looks like a typical 14-year old.

I looked up the pic. If dude’s sexualizing that image, what jaunte said at 196.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:49:43pm

re: #199 Captain Ron

Tip from Trump’s Truth Social

My first thought was tip, like a how-to tip? (not what the article meant)

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sagehen  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:52:28pm

re: #200 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Eugene V. Debs got 6% of the vote running from prison, and he was an actual political prisoner, locked up for speaking against the war, rather than a seditionist and rapist.

um… point of order. The laws of the time, speaking against the war was absolutely sedition.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:54:35pm

re: #203 sagehen

um… point of order. The laws of the time, speaking against the war was absolutely sedition.

Edited.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2023 • 3:58:01pm

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

The stupid orange fucker really just thinks it’s all just going to go away if he takes office again in January 2025?

It would. Republicans will back him 1000%. He’ll absolutely get away with everything. And likely succeed when he tries it again.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2023 • 4:00:51pm

re: #188 EPR-radar

If, God forbid, Trump takes office as president in Jan 2025, then yes, there is an excellent chance all his legal problems will go away, likely by being submerged in larger problems as he orders Federal troops (or the Proud Boys acting as his SA) to act vs. inconvenient state-level officials.

A sitting president, aided and abetted in his corruption by the wholly corrupt Republican party, has a tremendous amount of power that can be abused. Add to that the complete lack of restraint that Trump would have in a second term as a resentful narcissist nursing a grudge, and it really is a nightmare scenario.

And every supposedly decent person who will vote for Trump in 2024 is, in fact, voting for the ruin of the US.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS RIGHT HERE ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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jaunte  Aug 10, 2023 • 4:04:32pm

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

The stupid orange fucker really just thinks it’s all just going to go away if he takes office again in January 2025?

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 10, 2023 • 4:05:14pm

re: #199 Captain Ron

CNBC link to the story for taunting the cult online. It’s slightly harder for a Trumpanzee to dismiss than Raw Story is, but more importantly looks more reliable to observers.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Aug 10, 2023 • 4:07:14pm

re: #188 EPR-radar

If, God forbid, Trump takes office as president in Jan 2025, then yes, there is an excellent chance all his legal problems will go away, likely by being submerged in larger problems as he orders Federal troops (or the Proud Boys acting as his SA) to act vs. inconvenient state-level officials.

A sitting president, aided and abetted in his corruption by the wholly corrupt Republican party, has a tremendous amount of power that can be abused. Add to that the complete lack of restraint that Trump would have in a second term as a resentful narcissist nursing a grudge, and it really is a nightmare scenario.

And every supposedly decent person who will vote for Trump in 2024 is, in fact, voting for the ruin of the US.

Yesterday I saw a Trump fascist comment “they can’t eat the whole elephant.” They’re counting on the party to save a hardcore criminal.

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EPR-radar  Aug 10, 2023 • 4:10:01pm

re: #209 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Yesterday I saw a Trump fascist comment “they can’t eat the whole elephant.” They’re counting on the party to save a hardcore criminal.

Yes we can!

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KGxvi  Aug 10, 2023 • 4:13:10pm

re: #41 Captain Ron

So, top choice among Republicans is to run it back with the worst president in American history (who had no prior government experience). Second choice is another guy with no government experience.

Cool cool. Totally normal things there.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 10, 2023 • 4:16:46pm

re: #173 Captain Ron

[Embedded content]

Turley did issue a subsequent tweet admitting his error on the date.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 10, 2023 • 4:23:09pm

re: #186 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

Two questions re Tuberville

Does he pay state income tax/ What’s the address on his tax return?

And where does he vote?

It appears the Constitution requires you live in a state at the time of the election; after that it would seem you can move elsewhere.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 10, 2023 • 4:38:07pm

re: #199 Captain Ron

Hahahahahaha..

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My guess is that Robertson felt safe making threats there because he thought he was speaking to the like-minded and may have been cautious on other platforms. Of course, he didn’t realize that there are people with other perspectives who joined the site just to lurk to see what’s out there.

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TedStriker  Aug 10, 2023 • 5:07:45pm

re: #170 Dr. Matt

Is Albino Land Manatee a nationality?

[Embedded content]

re: #171 jaunte

Doctor, my eyes.

re: #172 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The Great White Nope.

re: #174 Dr. Matt

Sorry. I should have put a “not safe without eye protection” warning.


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