An Epic Performance Remastered: Snarky Puppy & Metropole Orkest, “The Curtain”

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Snarky Puppy & Metropole Orkest - The Curtain (Remixed & Remastered, Sylva 2014)
From the album ‘Sylva (Remixed & Remastered)’ - Available Now
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Snarky Puppy
Michael League - electric bass and Moog keybass
Bob Lanzetti - electric guitar
Mark Lettieri - electric guitar
Chris McQueen - electric guitar
Bill Laurance - piano, Wurlitzer, and Moog
Cory Henry - organ, clavinet, and Moog
Justin Stanton - Fender Rhodes, Moog, clavinet, piano, and trumpet
Jay Jennings - trumpet and flugelhorn
Mike “Maz” Maher - trumpet and flugelhorn
Chris Bullock - tenor sax, clarinet, and bass clarinet
Nate Werth - percussion
Robert “Sput” Searight - drums

Metropole Orkest
Conductor - Jules Buckley
1st violin - Arlia de Ruiter (concertmaster), Vera Laporeva, Denis Koenders, David Peijnenborgh, Pauline Terlouw, Casper Donker, Ruben Margarita, Tinka Tegter, Seijia Teeuwen, Ewa Zbyszynska
2nd violin - Merijn Rombout, Herman van Haaren, Wim Kok, Feyona van Iersel, Pauline Koning, Polina Cekov, Merel Jonker, Christina Knoll
Viola - Mieke Honingh, Norman Jansen, Julia Jowett, Isabella Petersen, Iris Schut, Lex Luijnenburg
Cello - Maarten Jansen, Emile Visser, Jascha Albracht, Annie Tangberg, Charles Watt
Flute - Janine Abbas, Mariël van den Bos, Nola Exel
Clarinet, bass clarinet, contrabass clarinet, and saxophone - Paul van der Feen, Leo van Oostrom, Leo Janssen, Werner Jansenn, and Max Boeree
Horn - Pieter Hunfeld, Rob van de Laar, Fons Verspaandonk, Elizabeth Hunfeld
Trombone - Jan Oasting, Vincetn Veneman, Jan Bastiani
Bass Trombone - Martin van den Berg
Tuba - Ries Schellekens
Percussion - Murk Jiskoot, Frank Warndenier

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298 comments
1
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 26, 2024 • 5:32:53pm

I have nothing in common with *or appreciation for anything republican. Nothing. Not a single value.

*Edited

2
goddamnedfrank  May 26, 2024 • 5:33:42pm

DEIR AL-BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — Palestinian health workers said Israeli airstrikes killed at least 35 people Sunday and hit tents for displaced people in the southern Gaza city of Rafah, and “numerous” others were trapped in flaming debris. Gaza’s Health Ministry said women and children made up most of the dead and dozens of wounded.

The attacks came two days after the International Court of Justice ordered Israel to end its military offensive in Rafah, where more than half of Gaza’s 2.3 million population had sought shelter before Israel’s incursion earlier this month. Tens of thousands of people remain in the area while many others have fled.

Footage from the scene of the largest airstrike showed heavy destruction. Israel’s army confirmed the strike and said it hit a Hamas installation and killed two senior Hamas militants. It said it was investigating reports that civilians were harmed. Defense Minister Yoav Gallant was in Rafah on Sunday and was briefed on the “deepening of operations” there, his office said.

3
darthstar  May 26, 2024 • 5:39:11pm

I think I put Merle in his happy place.

4
Charles Johnson  May 26, 2024 • 5:47:38pm

re: #3 darthstar

I hope you gave him the belly rub he was clearly inviting.

5
Charles Johnson  May 26, 2024 • 5:51:10pm

Sometimes I wish I could just flop over on the floor and somebody would give me a belly rub.

Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-05-27T00:49:40.000Z

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BigPapa  May 26, 2024 • 5:54:03pm

My frustration and rage with Cisco cannot be satiated with belly rubs. Geez it’s a big company and they let you know it. I have to get some Certs so we make the Next Level of Sales goodness and I got one but the other one is a PITA. Learning a bunch of shit I’ll never use or need just because they say so. Jerkfaces. Chonglers. Fecund ninnywhompasses.

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Nerdy Fish  May 26, 2024 • 5:55:58pm

re: #6 BigPapa

Tell us how you really feel./

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Charles Johnson  May 26, 2024 • 6:01:26pm

BELLY RUBS FOR EVERYBODY!

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BigPapa  May 26, 2024 • 6:01:29pm

re: #7 Nerdy Fish

Tell us how you really feel./

I don’t think I’ve made myself clear.

(breathing exercises)

10
Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 6:04:50pm

re: #6 BigPapa

As of today I am at the 41 year and 10 month mark with my civil service pension. One month from today (6/26) I will make the 41 year and 11 month milestone for a full unreduced pension.

I swear to Cthulhu I can’t wait for my official retirement day of 6/30…

11
jeffreyw  May 26, 2024 • 6:22:03pm

fucking internet is out, again
lights never flickered

12
Charles Johnson  May 26, 2024 • 6:23:50pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 26, 2024 • 6:24:37pm

re: #6 BigPapa

My frustration and rage with Cisco cannot be satiated with belly rubs. Geez it’s a big company and they let you know it. I have to get some Certs so we make the Next Level of Sales goodness and I got one but the other one is a PITA. Learning a bunch of shit I’ll never use or need just because they say so. Jerkfaces. Chonglers. Fecund ninnywhompasses.

That’s me with Salesforce. Multiple certs and always working on another. Not that I use most of it. I need to *know* some of it, which is fine, but there’s a bunch I’ll never, ever actually use.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 26, 2024 • 6:25:23pm

Thirty years ago she discovered products like Post-Its and Scotch Tape were responsible. The company shut down her research.

(Pro Publica, May 20, 2024)

Toxic Gaslighting: How 3M Executives Convinced a Scientist the Forever Chemicals She Found in Human Blood Were Safe

“Decades ago, Kris Hansen showed 3M that its PFAS chemicals were in people’s bodies. Her bosses halted her work. As the EPA now forces the removal of the chemicals from drinking water, she wrestles with the secrets that 3M kept from her and the world.”

15
darthstar  May 26, 2024 • 6:35:56pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

BELLY RUBS FOR EVERYBODY!

This sounds like an ad from Big Belly.

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darthstar  May 26, 2024 • 6:37:11pm

re: #11 jeffreyw

fucking internet is out, again
lights never flickered

Fore-play internet is still functioning…be patient. And if the lights are flickering you’re grabbing the cord of the lamp too hard.

17
Charmingly Persistent  May 26, 2024 • 6:37:56pm

I dropped my subscription to Washington Post and subscribed to Pro Publica instead. I want to support investigative journalism but I just couldn’t with WaPo anymore

18
darthstar  May 26, 2024 • 6:45:25pm

And the people propping him up are fascists, foreign dictators, and criminals.

Mastodon

Mastodon

19
Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 6:45:57pm

Superman vs. The Flying Saucers!

1950’s Superman vs the Flying Saucers

20
Belafon  May 26, 2024 • 7:02:26pm

Weather channel showing a tornado warning in Iowa.

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Belafon  May 26, 2024 • 7:05:13pm

Go Idaho:

I know this was reported, but I like the part where the jury wanted to force the defendant to apologize.

22
jeffreyw  May 26, 2024 • 7:07:17pm

..and we’re back up

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Dangerman  May 26, 2024 • 7:24:38pm

re: #6 BigPapa

My frustration and rage with Cisco cannot be satiated with belly rubs. Geez it’s a big company and they let you know it. I have to get some Certs so we make the Next Level of Sales goodness and I got one but the other one is a PITA. Learning a bunch of shit I’ll never use or need just because they say so. Jerkfaces. Chonglers. Fecund ninnywhompasses.

I have to take* 40 hours of “continuing ed” every year.
Been doing it since the 80s
Thatts more than 2000 hours
I don’t think I’ve learned 40 hours worth of anything

* and pay for, and not be working, so not be billing

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darthstar  May 26, 2024 • 7:29:01pm

Meme I made for Trump getting booed by the Libertardians.

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darthstar  May 26, 2024 • 7:31:55pm

re: #23 Dangerman

I have to take* 40 hours of “continuing ed” every year.
Been doing it since the 80s
Thatts more than 2000 hours
I don’t think I’ve learned 40 hours worth of anything

* and pay for, and not be working, so not be billing

One of the downsides of my getting converted is I need to finish my AWS certification - shouldn’t be too hard, but jesus I don’t have the patience for those online classes. I jump right to the quiz and see if I have enough knowledge to pass - did that the first time and ended up failing the certification - but they didn’t tell me by how much or what I missed. Fuckers.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 26, 2024 • 7:36:25pm

re: #21 Belafon

It’s good to see a few things now and then that give me hope.

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BigPapa  May 26, 2024 • 7:48:14pm

re: #25 darthstar

Yup, that’s me. I have to get two Certs and I passed the Tech one first shot. I practiced tested the Sales track and hit barely Fail, barely pass, barely fail, barely pass. Then failed the actual Cert. All that wuu Sales Cisco Koolaid that I’ll never use. So I’m taking an actual training course now.

Luckily I do love my job and profession. But Spectre Cisco drives me nuts. If they didn’t make the best shit…

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BigPapa  May 26, 2024 • 7:50:24pm

re: #13 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Dangerman  May 26, 2024 • 7:53:04pm

re: #25 darthstar

One of the downsides of my getting converted is I need to finish my AWS certification - shouldn’t be too hard, but jesus I don’t have the patience for those online classes. I jump right to the quiz and see if I have enough knowledge to pass - did that the first time and ended up failing the certification - but they didn’t tell me by how much or what I missed. Fuckers.

Many online courses I take dont let you jump ahead.
You may have to sit there for a recommended amount of time before you can move on, or do progress questions along the way, or watch inane video presentations section by section.
And I’m required to take a broad base of subjects i will never use. my practice is highly specialized/concentrated. I will never do certain kinds of work (international audit)

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jeffreyw  May 26, 2024 • 8:00:39pm
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darthstar  May 26, 2024 • 8:05:51pm

Sad day for me…the bank I thought I’d retire working for is officially no more…

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Sherlock Hound  May 26, 2024 • 8:05:54pm

This Reddit post explains the American presidential election SO well!
And in doing so, it demolishes all of the “both sides!” arguments that are repeated online over and over and over.

To summarize the post, American presidential elections are:
Locked-in
Zero-sum
Winner-take-all
First-past-the-post

More details:
reddit.com

A comment of my own: NONE of these attributes are easily changed by the voter. Changing these attributes to eliminate the problems cited, can only be done with great care. And they require good faith amongst ALL participants in the American polity.

We don’t have those conditions.

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teleskiguy  May 26, 2024 • 8:19:01pm

#NowPlaying Frank Zappa > Thing-Fish > You Are What You Is youtu.be/YMb9SjtFhSc

Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness The Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy.bsky.social) 2024-05-27T03:16:31.508Z

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teleskiguy  May 26, 2024 • 8:37:21pm

#NowPlaying Widespread Panic > Street Dogs > Stevens Cat youtu.be/xCNEgG0m0nI

Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness The Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy.bsky.social) 2024-05-20T02:53:27.813Z

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2024 • 8:38:21pm

re: #18 darthstar

And the people propping him up are fascists, foreign dictators, and criminals.

[Embedded content]

Trump’s “strategy” is the same as it was in 2016 and 2020: Babble out whatever he thinks the crowd he’s standing in front of at that time wants to hear. If it meets with support, he puffs up like a bullfrog and tells folks that of course he always meant/believed what he said. If it falls flat or even hurts him, he quickly contradicts himself and his underlings jump up in his defense to whine about how anybody pointing out his hypocrisy is “biased” and “unfair” to him.

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sagehen  May 26, 2024 • 8:44:12pm

re: #31 darthstar

Sad day for me…the bank I thought I’d retire working for is officially no more…

[Embedded content]

sad day for me too.

I’m just a customer, but… JP Morgan isn’t going to give me the personalized service I’ve become accustomed to. I’m just one of the pikers now.

37
Targetpractice  May 26, 2024 • 8:47:50pm

How bruised is his ego after Saturday? So bruised that he had to go and pretend that a NASCAR crowd was cheering for him:

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teleskiguy  May 26, 2024 • 8:52:14pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

The Biden Campaign is posting this stuff. Good.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 8:54:19pm

I want the Biden campaign to cut an ad showing Trump at the Libertarian convention saying he would pardon the convicted drug dealer who ran Silk Road.

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2024 • 8:56:46pm

re: #39 Joe Bacon ✅

I want the Biden campaign to cut an ad showing Trump at the Libertarian convention saying he would pardon the convicted drug dealer who ran Silk Road.

The one who got sent to prison for two life terms after getting convicted for assisting in moving over $180 million worth of drugs? The one that Trump had four years to pardon and release if he so chose to, but never so much as made a sniff about the case until now? That guy?

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darthstar  May 26, 2024 • 8:57:41pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

How bruised is his ego after Saturday? So bruised that he had to go and pretend that a NASCAR crowd was cheering for him:

[Embedded content]

That’s pretty fucking pathetic.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 8:58:00pm

re: #40 Targetpractice

The one who got sent to prison for two life terms after getting convicted for assisting in moving over $180 million worth of drugs? The one that Trump had four years to pardon and release if he so chose to, but never so much as made a sniff about the case until now? That guy?

Ross Ulbricht Himself.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 8:58:42pm

re: #41 darthstar

That’s pretty fucking pathetic.

So did anyone do the Let’s Go Brandon cheer for Diaper Man?

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darthstar  May 26, 2024 • 9:00:57pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

How bruised is his ego after Saturday? So bruised that he had to go and pretend that a NASCAR crowd was cheering for him:

[Embedded content]

Took a screenshot so people could meme the fuck out of it.

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TedStriker  May 26, 2024 • 9:01:37pm

re: #39 Joe Bacon ✅

I want the Biden campaign to cut an ad showing Trump at the Libertarian convention saying he would pardon the convicted drug dealer who ran Silk Road.

re: #40 Targetpractice

The one who got sent to prison for two life terms after getting convicted for assisting in moving over $180 million worth of drugs? The one that Trump had four years to pardon and release if he so chose to, but never so much as made a sniff about the case until now? That guy?

Because Trump was sure that was going to be a slam dunk to ingratiate himself with the Libertarians; otherwise, as proven by his inaction to pardon or commute while he was in office, he couldn’t give a fuck about Ulbricht.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 9:03:00pm

And he actually thought the Libertarians would nominate him…

Another Biden Ad idea—Show Trump at the part in his speech when he wanted the Libertarians to nominate him with a caption—He only got 6 votes. RFK Jr got more votes…

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darthstar  May 26, 2024 • 9:03:19pm

re: #44 darthstar

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 9:06:22pm

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Belafon  May 26, 2024 • 9:06:37pm

re: #44 darthstar

Took a screenshot so people could meme the fuck out of it.

[Embedded content]

re: #44 darthstar

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darthstar  May 26, 2024 • 9:08:06pm

Goddamnit…I promised myself no impulse buys after I got back from my Vegas splurge…

Mastodon

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2024 • 9:08:36pm

I said this last night but it bears repeating:

Imagine if, over 72 hours during Memorial Day weekend, Biden had:

- Gone to a MAGA hotbed where he’d received less than 20% of the vote and tried to pretend that a crowd of less than 8,000 attendees* was a significant showing in a city of 8 million

- Followed up the next day by giving a speech before the Green Party where he showed up 30 minutes late to the sound of the audience booing him, tried to pretend that he gave a shit about anything the Greens care about, made promises he could have fulfilled during his presidency, and then snarled at them that they either vote for him or remain irrelevant before stalking off to the sound of more boos.

- Capped off the weekend by attending a NASCAR race to little attention, mugged for a few cameras, and posed like he was waving to the crowd that was unaware of his presence.

He would not be getting puff pieces in the “liberal media” about his strategy or attempts by Dems to pretend that the Greens were thrilled to have him attend their convention.

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darthstar  May 26, 2024 • 9:09:08pm

Yeah, that’s “Russian Warship, go fuck yourself”

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BigPapa  May 26, 2024 • 9:09:51pm

Some dude named Toad got more votes than Chump.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 9:10:13pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

I said this last night but it bears repeating:

Imagine if, over 72 hours during Memorial Day weekend, Biden had:

- Gone to a MAGA hotbed where he’d received less than 20% of the vote and tried to pretend that a crowd of less than 8,000 attendees* was a significant showing in a city of 8 million

- Followed up the next day by giving a speech before the Green Party where he showed up 30 minutes late to the sound of the audience booing him, tried to pretend that he gave a shit about anything the Greens care about, made promises he could have fulfilled during his presidency, and then snarled at them that they either vote for him or remain irrelevant before stalking off to the sound of more boos.

- Capped off the weekend by attending a NASCAR race to little attention, mugged for a few cameras, and posed like he was waving to the crowd that was unaware of his presence.

He would not be getting puff pieces in the “liberal media” about his strategy or attempts by Dems to pretend that the Greens were thrilled to have him attend their convention.

AND…The New York Times would be ripping Biden to pieces all over the front page…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 26, 2024 • 9:11:42pm

The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (and most of the rest of the federal government) was saved by a Supreme Court case. The case argued that any government programme or regulation must be funded by Congress. The Supreme Court found 7-2 “that’s BS.”

Mark Stern of Slate explains how court shopping works, and how Mitch McConnell subverted district courts in the Fifth Circuit. (38:54)

Way Too Close: Insane SCOTUS Case Could’ve Sunk The Country | Mark Joseph Stern | TMR

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TedStriker  May 26, 2024 • 9:12:23pm

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 9:13:36pm

I can’t help myself…

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William Lewis  May 26, 2024 • 9:25:27pm

re: #32 Sherlock Hound

This Reddit post explains the American presidential election SO well!
And in doing so, it demolishes all of the “both sides!” arguments that are repeated online over and over and over.

To summarize the post, American presidential elections are:
Locked-in
Zero-sum
Winner-take-all
First-past-the-post

More details:
reddit.com

A comment of my own: NONE of these attributes are easily changed by the voter. Changing these attributes to eliminate the problems cited, can only be done with great care. And they require good faith amongst ALL participants in the American polity.

We don’t have those conditions.

Wish I could force the moronic children on Bluesky to understand that.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 9:25:31pm

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jaunte  May 26, 2024 • 9:31:32pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 26, 2024 • 9:40:14pm

E-mail from the Secular Coalition for America regarding Associate Justice Samuel Alito and his “Appeal to Heaven” flag.

They encourage you to call your representative to support H.Res. 1244 by Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN9).

Behind the bar for length.

If you look up Revolutionary War flags you find about 35 examples from different colonies that together pretty much define the word obscure. Lots with stripes. A few with snakes. One has a white field with a drawing of a beaver that flew on naval ships in New York. Some have pine trees, a popular symbol of independence in New England.

Then there’s the one with a white background, a pine tree, and “AN APPEAL TO HEAVEN.” This flag was used by the Continental Navy with the appeal to the supernatural perhaps because they were going up against the greatest navy in the world. Two-hundred-fifty years later, it’s a Christian nationalist flag that flew at the Capitol on January 6.

Millions of people have an American flag handy they can fly upside down if they want to show sympathy with January 6 rioters who flew them that way that day. Which Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito did on January 17, 2021 at his Washington DC home for reasons he did not adequately explain. The upside down American flag has also come to represent the larger Stop the Steal movement.

Justice Alito is not known for being a Revolutionary War buff. You have to go out of your way to have one of the Appeal To Heaven flags available to fly at your New Jersey beach house as he did last summer. He didn’t fly one of the other three dozen revolutionary war flags you can find. No, Justice Alito happens to have the flag that started showing up about 10 years ago at conservative events and has been adopted by Christian nationalists who think this formerly obscure flag shows we’ve always been a Christian nation.

Alito isn’t the only public official that flies the Appeal To Heaven. Christian nationalist House Speaker Mike Johnson has one outside his House office. So does Representative Glenn Grothman of Wisconsin. If I pay more attention walking the halls of Congress I’ll probably notice more. And I’d be shocked if this flag doesn’t start showing up on stage at Trump rallies.

What was Justice Alito thinking with the Appeal to Heaven flag? I’m not sure he’s flying it just to troll the liberals. That would work a lot better at his Washington home. Just speculating here, but I think when he’s the guy from Jersey on vacation down at the shore in a sleepy beach town, he feels like he can be himself. And that’s the problem. Being himself means being a Supreme Court justice who relates to Christian nationalists, or just is one, and flies a flag they flew at the riot on January 6.

Now, Mike Johnson flying the Appeal to Heaven is certainly inappropriate, but at least he’s open about his Christian nationalist beliefs. Until last year he was just one of the 435 people who constitute half of Congress. Even as Speaker he’s finding he can’t ram things through the House. But unlike Justice Alito he is subject to significant transparency about his finances and where campaign donations come from. The House Ethics Committee can investigate him. Johnson is expected to be political, or biased to put it more simply. And unlike Alito, Johnson is subject to the judgment of the voters every two years.

Alito has a lifetime appointment to be one of nine people who decide what the Constitution says. Alito’s job is to be unbiased when he interprets the law. He is expected to keep his religious beliefs out of that interpretation. Flying the flag of people who want a more Christian nation tells us what he really thinks. Even if this were just the appearance of bias, that is what the Supreme Court’s new code of ethics says should lead to a recusal in related cases.

Flying that flag tells us Alito should have recused himself from the pending cases that will decide whether Trump can be criminally prosecuted for his efforts to remain in office after losing the 2020 election, and whether the Justice Department can use an obstruction charge to prosecute more than 300 January 6 rioters. Alito still could recuse himself, but he won’t. There are no consequences for him whatsoever if he doesn’t.

Representative Steve Cohen introduced a resolution to censure Justice Alito following the upside down flag report. After many “Whereases” it states:

That the House of Representatives—

(1) censures Associate Justice Samuel Alito, Jr., for knowingly violating the Federal recusal statute and binding ethics standards and calling the impartiality of the Supreme Court of the United States into question by continuing to participate in cases in which his prior public conduct could be reasonably interpreted to demonstrate bias; and

(2) demands Associate Justice Samuel Alito, Jr., recuse himself from all litigation related to the 2020 election or the insurrection on January 6, 2021.

You can ask your representative to support the resolution here.

As the resolution mentions, the flag should only be flown upside down as an indication of “dire distress.” Here’s one I’m flying for the Supreme Court.

Scott MacConomy, Director of Policy ad Government Affairs at the Secular Coalition for America, wears a blue suit and stands with his arms crossed over his chest in front of the United States Capitol Building.

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Scott MacConomy
Director of Policy and Government Affairs
Secular Coalition for America
scott@secular.org

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William Lewis  May 26, 2024 • 9:48:42pm

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My rep is a fascist thug so I’ll simply continue to work on getting him tossed out of office in November as a one term mistake.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 9:49:26pm

Say it ain’t so

Cuckoo For Cocoa Puffs Running Mate withdrew from her speaking event at the Libertarian Party convention because RFK Jr didn’t get the nomination…

thedailybeast.com

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jaunte  May 26, 2024 • 9:51:02pm

Another blockable account for Bluesky sanitation.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 9:53:35pm

Say who else is getting flak for going to an out of state NASCAR event?

Did you guess Smoky Eyes?

You got it!

‘You lost?’ Sarah Huckabee Sanders catches heat for going to NASCAR event during tornadoes

Republican Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders caught flak on Sunday after appearing at a NASCAR event in North Carolina while deadly tornadoes are sweeping through her own state.

Sanders, who was recently criticized for “unethical behavior” while employed by Donald Trump’s White House that was exposed during the former president’s criminal trial, posted on social media on Sunday that her constituents should be concerned about the severe weather systems. In her state alone, at least five people were killed in the storm, according to recent reports.

rawstory.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 26, 2024 • 10:04:45pm

If the xenophobes are whining about migration now, what are they going to do when Mexico falls into chaos?

From a few days ago:

Mexico’s drought, heatwave and water shortage are so bad even police are blocking traffic in protest

Mexico’s drought, heatwave and water shortages have gotten so bad that even police blocked traffic in protest Wednesday.

In recent months, residents of some Mexico City neighborhoods have regularly taken to forming human chains to block boulevards to demand water. In April, complaints about contaminated water sparked a weeks-long crisis in one upscale neighborhood.

Normally, police seek to redirect traffic, but on Wednesday some officers were themselves manning a protest blockade, near the capital’s iconic Independence Monument.

The officers stood blocking six lanes of traffic, saying their barracks hadn’t had water for a week, and that the bathrooms were unusable.

“We don’t have water in the bathrooms,” said one female officer who would not give her name for fear of reprisals, adding that conditions in the barracks were intolerable. “They make us sleep on the floor,” she said.

[…]

“The bosses have water in their offices, but we’re not allowed to go in there,” said the female officer. “They don’t give us solutions. Today they brought in a water truck, after they saw the news media show up.”

In the midst of record temperatures and a severe drought, many buildings in the capital have to get water brought in by tanker trucks, but they have been in short supply and are expensive.

About 85 percent of the country was expected to see highs of at least 104 degrees (40 Celsius) Wednesday, with about a third of the country reaching 113 degrees (45 Celsius) or more.

Almost 40% of the country’s dams are below 20% of capacity, and another 40% are between 20 and 50% full. Mexico City has been forced to reduce water supplies because the reservoirs that feed the city are drying up. Some stores are running of mineral water.

Nationwide, authorities have had to truck in water for everything from hospitals to fire-fighting teams. Low levels at hydroelectric dams have contributed to power blackouts in some parts of the country.

[…]

Meanwhile, the heatwave has been so bad that in the Gulf coast state of Tabasco, howler monkeys are falling from the trees due to apparent heat stroke.

[…]

Climate change is expected to make much of Central America more arid during dry seasons, which themselves will migrate on the calendar.

I expect in my lifetime to see the US deploy the US Army at the border in more than token numbers.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 26, 2024 • 10:11:37pm

Just absurd. Like a committee of mosquitoes charged with keeping us safe from insect bites.

The US’s new AI Safety board. There are other names, but mostly tech CEOs.

Sean Carroll (@seanmcarroll.bsky.social) 2024-05-26T11:50:17.577Z

Putting the foxes in charge of the chicken coop.

What could possibly go wrong?

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Sherlock Hound  May 26, 2024 • 10:13:30pm

re: #58 William Lewis

Wish I could force the moronic children on Bluesky to understand that.

Too fucking many of these people in the disabled community. I’ve given up.

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2024 • 10:20:14pm

re: #67 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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Putting the foxes in charge of the chicken coop.

What could possibly go wrong?

I’m sure this will be every bit as clear-headed and ethical as having fossil fuel companies write the country’s energy policies.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 26, 2024 • 10:23:32pm

With the intense heat waves come extreme storms.

A hail storm in Mexico, rather astonishing amounts of hail, deeper than snow and keeping people from being able to get out of houses:

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 26, 2024 • 10:36:33pm

5/27 is this person’s birthday…

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BigPapa  May 26, 2024 • 10:42:13pm

In this module, we will cover the following topics:

What is a Switch?
Benefits of Cisco Switching
Cisco Switching Portfolio
Customer Success Stories

I remember when we installed hubs. In houses. In the snow. Uphill both ways.

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BigPapa  May 26, 2024 • 10:45:27pm

They still call me the MAC Daddy.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 26, 2024 • 10:56:58pm

Great! for Monday

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 26, 2024 • 11:21:51pm

re: #62 William Lewis

My rep is a fascist thug so I’ll simply continue to work on getting him tossed out of office in November as a one term mistake.

My rep is an eight-term cypher who doesn’t have to campaign to win. Adrian Smith (R-NE3) in his first campaign promised he would only serve two terms, because he claimed representatives shouldn’t make that their career. He ran for the US House after he was term-limited in the Unicameral. Prior to that he served on Gering City Council (Scotts Bluff county seat).

A third of his money came from the libertarian Club for Growth after Scott Kleeb (D, ranch hand) outraised him, concerning the GOP the district would flip. He won in the closest race since 1990.

NE-3 is a difficult district to run in, as it covers 65,000 square miles and two time zones.

He is a Christian Nationalist who attended Liberty University.

He signed the amicus brief in Texas v Pennsylvania challenging the results of the 2020 election. New Jersey Democratic Representative Bill Pascrell called on House Speaker not to seat my rep in 2021, citing the Insurrection Clause of the XIV Amendment.

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No Malarkey!  May 26, 2024 • 11:29:53pm

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My rep is an eight-term cypher who doesn’t have to campaign to win. Adrian Smith (R-NE3) in his first campaign promised he would only serve two terms, because he claimed representatives shouldn’t make that their career. He ran for the US House after he was term-limited in the Unicameral. Prior to that he served on Gering City Council (Scotts Bluff county seat).

A third of his money came from the libertarian Club for Growth after Scott Kleeb (D, ranch hand) outraised him, concerning the GOP the district would flip. He won in the closest race since 1990.

NE-3 is a difficult district to run in, as it covers 65,000 square miles and two time zones.

He is a Christian Nationalist who attended Liberty University.

He signed the amicus brief in Texas v Pennsylvania challenging the results of the 2020 election. New Jersey Democratic Representative Bill Pascrell called on House Speaker not to seat my rep in 2021, citing the Insurrection Clause of the XIV Amendment.

My Rep is Jamie Comer; nuff said about him. He is only my rep because my democratic county was gerrymandered into his ruby red district to ensure that we would never again have any voice in selecting who represents us in Washington.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 26, 2024 • 11:33:27pm

Euractiv, May 27, 2024

Spanish Foreign Minister José Manuel Albares on Sunday strongly criticised a video posted the same day by his Israeli counterpart Israel Katz on X, featuring two flamenco dancers interspersed with images of Hamas terrorist attacks and a direct message to Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez.

The controversial video (Twitter, 0:18) is a bitterly ironic political attack by Tel Aviv on Spain over Madrid’s decision on Tuesday to join Norway and Ireland in recognising Palestinian statehood.

“I find the video scandalous and execrable. It is scandalous because it is known to everyone, especially to my Israeli colleague (Katz), that the Spanish government has condemned Hamas terrorism from the first moment and in all its actions,” Albares (PSOE/S&D) stressed at a press conference in Brussels together with the Palestinian Prime Minister Mohamad Mustafa, Euractiv’s partner EFE reported.

The 18-second video begins with images of the Spanish flag and the subtitle: “Hamas: Thank you, Spain”, accompanied by flamenco music in the background and images of Hamas terrorists brandishing weapons or shooting.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 26, 2024 • 11:50:34pm

Financial Times, thirty-five minutes ago

One of the largest investors in Israel’s bonds is not a hedge fund titan or a Wall Street trader, but an elected municipal comptroller investing the tax dollars of Palm Beach County.

Joseph Abruzzo, the overseer of investments for Florida’s largest county, holds $700mn out of his $4.6bn overall portfolio in so-called Israel bonds. These are special overseas debt issuances that have been scooped up by US state and local governments since the conflict between Israel and Hamas began.

“I’m ecstatic that we have these bonds in our portfolio,” Abruzzo told the Financial Times. He cited “the great returns, the safety, and the benefit to the taxpayers of Palm Beach County” of debt that is becoming an important, but also controversial, part of Israel’s efforts to finance a longer war.

Israel Bonds, the official underwriter for the debt, says it has sold more than $3bn of the debt worldwide, three times the annual average, since October 7 last year — the date of the Hamas assault that triggered the latest conflict. Local governments in the US including the states of Florida, Indiana and Ohio have been enthusiastic recent buyers.

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Israel’s borrowing spree reaches Palm Beach as US municipalities pile in

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JC1  May 27, 2024 • 12:08:48am

re: #67 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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Putting the foxes in charge of the chicken coop.

What could possibly go wrong?

This is better than putting a bunch of effective altruist cultists on the board, but they should have included a wider range of voices.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 12:17:43am

re: #18 darthstar

People keep calling it a strategy. It isn’t a strategy. It’s a drug addled control freak thinking he can shout his way back into the presidency.

Stop acting like he’s got a plan and treat him as the corrupt threat that he represents - it’s not him, it’s the people propping him up we need to fear.

It becomes more and more clear that the GOP plan will be to derail the electoral process so thoroughly that neither candidate gets 270 EC votes, throwing the election to the House state delegtions. And there are more GOP states than Democratic states.

And SCOTUS will support them and defend any of the shenanigans they pull: stopping the vote count, violence/intimidation/disruptions at polling places, loss/hijacking of ballots, sabotage of voting equipment, etc…

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No Malarkey!  May 27, 2024 • 12:18:28am

re: #79 JC1

This is better than putting a bunch of effective altruist cultists on the board, but they should have included a wider range of voices.

I am old enough to remember the widespread concern about Y2K, which resulted in it not being a problem at all. Hopefully the same will be true of AI.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 12:20:49am

re: #35 Targetpractice

…If it falls flat or even hurts him, he quickly contradicts himself and his underlings jump up in his defense to whine about how anybody pointing out his hypocrisy is “biased” and “unfair” to him.

Remember Kellanne Conway: “Don’t listen to his words, listen to what’s in his heart!”

(which is nine sizes too small)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 27, 2024 • 12:39:13am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 12:43:21am

re: #54 Joe Bacon ✅

Imagine if, over 72 hours during Memorial Day weekend, Biden had…

The Daily Mail

Biden, 81, is seen shuffling out of Delaware clothes shop during Memorial Day weekend trip home

and then, more than halfway down the article:

It was a busy day for the president, as earlier Saturday, he delivered the commencement address at the Military Academy at West Point in New York.

Where he read all the names and shook each cadet’s hand. Without stumbling, slurring or rambling off fictional film characters…

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2024 • 12:45:23am

re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It becomes more and more clear that the GOP plan will be to derail the electoral process entirely so that neither candidate gets 270 EC votes, throwing the election to the House state delegtions. And there are more GOP states than Democratic states.

And SCOTUS will support them and defend any of the shenanigans they pull: stopping the vote count, violence/intimidation/disruptions at polling places, loss/hijacking of ballots, sabotage of voting equipment, etc…

I strongly suspect that the plan is a variation on that originally set up for 2020: Go out to the press as soon as Trump has even a small lead in the overall polls to demand the count be brought to an immediate end and for Biden to concede. And all counting must be done by midnight, with all uncounted ballots, late-arriving ballots, and provisional ballots to be chucked as some mutated version of the Constitution says the Founders intended only the votes cast and counted on Tuesday to be valid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 12:48:42am

re: #81 No Malarkey!

I am old enough to remember the widespread concern about Y2K, which resulted in it not being a problem at all. Hopefully the same will be true of AI.

apples and oranges, or rather Apples and PCs

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 12:49:41am

re: #85 Targetpractice

I strongly suspect that the plan is a variation on that originally set up for 2020: Go out to the press as soon as Trump has even a small lead in the overall polls to demand the count be brought to an immediate end and for Biden to concede. And all counting must be done by midnight, with all uncounted ballots, late-arriving ballots, and provisional ballots to be chucked as some mutated version of the Constitution says the Founders intended only the votes cast and counted on Tuesday to be valid.

That will be their plan A - and if that fails then go nucular.

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2024 • 1:15:34am

re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

apples and oranges, or rather Apples and PCs

Yeah, what prevented Y2K was…well…bringing attention to Y2K. We’re sort of expected to just take it on faith that the public and private agencies who spent billions patching, upgrading, or outright replacing legacy computer systems were not in any real danger from Y2K because they said so.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 1:20:20am

re: #88 Targetpractice

In any case, there are some places where AI can really do a great job, for example in science research and technology, where the paramaters are clearly defined and limited.

But people are trying to use it to find ways to replace employees who need to use creative and social skills to complete tasks, where it often falls flat on its four-eyed face after tripping over its third leg.

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William Lewis  May 27, 2024 • 1:33:03am

re: #88 Targetpractice

Yeah, what prevented Y2K was…well…bringing attention to Y2K. We’re sort of expected to just take it on faith that the public and private agencies who spent billions patching, upgrading, or outright replacing legacy computer systems were not in any real danger from Y2K because they said so.

Yep. There was a huge amount of date dependent code that could have broken badly that was repaired ahead of time instead.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 27, 2024 • 1:36:53am
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Targetpractice  May 27, 2024 • 1:39:27am

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That will be their plan A - and if that fails then go nucular.

Yeah, my belief remains that sending the whole mess to the House was always the option of last resort, the choice of the wild-eyed loons while the rest wanted to at least create the illusion of Trump’s being anointed was “legit.” That they’d wanted somebody (Pence if necessary, but preferably the SCOTUS bench) to declare that there was enough widespread “fraud” at the state level that those state legislatures could just ignore the official counts and vote on a different slate of electors if they “wished” to do so. Thus Trump gets to claim that he “won” the EC instead of depending upon the House to select him instead.

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2024 • 2:04:55am

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In any case, there are some places where AI can really do a great job, for example in science research and technology, where the paramaters are clearly defined and limited.

But people are trying to use it to find ways to replace employees who need to use creative and social skills to complete tasks, where it often falls flat on its four-eyed face after tripping over its third leg.

I’m happy you pointed out the latter, because while the creative community are (justifiably) bent out of shape over the fuckery that outfits like OpenAI are engaged in, the bigger danger that Average Joe Sixpack should worry about is coming into work one day to find out that corporate has fired his old boss and replaced him with an “AI” designed to manage the low-level peons with greater “efficiency” at a much reduced overall cost.

The immediate danger isn’t Skynet wiping out most of humanity or Simone replacing Hollywood leading actresses, it’s that ruthless efforts to squeeze ever more blood from the stone leads to businesses basically hacking to bits and then torching the ladder behind them. If you think morale in the workplace sucks now, wait until millions of workers find out that their careers effectively plateaued and all those dreams of one day being a manager with a private office and the power to control the lives of others have been replaced with Hal 9000 telling them they’re not getting that annual raise because their productivity dropped 0.2% compared to last quarter.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 27, 2024 • 2:12:31am

re: #93 Targetpractice

I’m happy you pointed out the latter, because while the creative community are (justifiably) bent out of shape over the fuckery that outfits like OpenAI are engaged in, the bigger danger that Average Joe Sixpack should worry about is coming into work one day to find out that corporate has fired his old boss and replaced him with an “AI” designed to manage the low-level peons with greater “efficiency” at a much reduced overall cost.

The immediate danger isn’t Skynet wiping out most of humanity or Simone replacing Hollywood leading actresses, it’s that ruthless efforts to squeeze ever more blood from the stone leads to businesses basically hacking to bits and then torching the ladder behind them. If you think morale in the workplace sucks now, wait until millions of workers find out that their careers effectively plateaued and all those dreams of one day being a manager with a private office and the power to control the lives of others have been replaced with Hal 9000 telling them they’re not getting that annual raise because their productivity dropped 0.2% compared to last quarter.

It won’t be HAL 9000 they encounter. It’ll be Queeg.

Queeg

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 2:24:37am

re: #93 Targetpractice

If you think morale in the workplace sucks now, wait until millions of workers find out that their careers effectively plateaued and all those dreams of one day being a manager with a private office and the power to control the lives of others have been replaced with Hal 9000 telling them they’re not getting that annual raise because their productivity dropped 0.2% compared to last quarter.

And if you wonder why uber does not give a shit about its employees it is because they are just placeholders. The company is building up its brand and network and will replace them all with self-driving cars as soon as technology and legislation/regulation allow them to.

DItto for nearly every single truck driver. I can imagine there will still be delivery personnel but they will just ride along rather than drive their vehicles.

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2024 • 2:38:41am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And if you wonder why uber does not give a shit about its employees it is because they are just placeholders. The company is building up its brand and network and will replace them all with self-driving cars as soon as technology and legislation/regulation allow them to.

DItto for nearly every single truck driver. I can imagine there will still be delivery personnel but they will just ride along rather than drive their vehicles.

I’ve been saying for years that the biggest proponents of driverless deliveries are going to end up being the insurance companies. Why? Because once one company or another can get the number of accidents down to lower than human drivers, the insurance companies will start screaming in the ears of legislators to pass laws allowing corps to switch out their drivers for automated vehicles on “safety” grounds but really it’ll be because paying out fewer claims due to “human error” will mean bigger annual bonuses for the guys at the top.

It won’t happen overnight, I figure it’ll be a step-by-step process with short-haul routes and local deliveries first to be replaced, but eventually long-haul truckers will find themselves losing business while facing outrageously high insurance rates.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 27, 2024 • 2:41:04am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And if you wonder why uber does not give a shit about its employees it is because they are just placeholders. The company is building up its brand and network and will replace them all with self-driving cars as soon as technology and legislation/regulation allow them to.

DItto for nearly every single truck driver. I can imagine there will still be delivery personnel but they will just ride along rather than drive their vehicles.

Considering the worldwide accusations of rape and assault by Uber drivers, and the corporation doing what it can to cover that up, I imagine Uber is going to collapse before they get to their autonomous vehicles. That and in most of the USA, Uber is not available.

As for autonomous trucks, too easy to sabotage.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 27, 2024 • 2:43:26am

re: #96 Targetpractice

I’ve been saying for years that the biggest proponents of driverless deliveries are going to end up being the insurance companies. Why? Because once one company or another can get the number of accidents down to lower than human drivers, the insurance companies will start screaming in the ears of legislators to pass laws allowing corps to switch out their drivers for automated vehicles on “safety” grounds but really it’ll be because paying out fewer claims due to “human error” will mean bigger annual bonuses for the guys at the top.

It won’t happen overnight, I figure it’ll be a step-by-step process with short-haul routes and local deliveries first to be replaced, but eventually long-haul truckers will find themselves losing business while facing outrageously high insurance rates.

Though there are going to be a few huge lawsuits in this process due to a driverless vehicle killing a bunch of people due to a software/hardware fault and/or the programming not handling an edge case or something causing the processor to not get clear information.

I also half-expect luddite or chaos-causer sabotage of driverless systems to become a thing. Like people will start doing stuff to damage or inhibit delivery drones if they ever become common.

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William Lewis  May 27, 2024 • 2:53:26am

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

As for autonomous trucks, too easy to sabotage.

Old school piracy - stealing product on the fly.

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Patricia Kayden  May 27, 2024 • 2:56:34am

re: #65 Joe Bacon ✅

That’s okay. When she runs for reelection, she’ll win in a landslide because Republicans are better than Democrats in deep red states like Arkansas.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 3:00:20am

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Considering the worldwide accusations of rape and assault by Uber drivers, and the corporation doing what it can to cover that up, I imagine Uber is going to collapse before they get to their autonomous vehicles. That and in most of the USA, Uber is not available.

As for autonomous trucks, too easy to sabotage.

I hope uber collapses out of general principles. But Johnny Cabs will be the norm within decades.

Trucks can be equipped with security tech and the occasional live road marshal to discourage saboteurs.

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2024 • 3:01:04am

re: #98 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Though there are going to be a few huge lawsuits in this process due to a driverless vehicle killing a bunch of people due to a software/hardware fault and/or the programming not handling an edge case or something causing the processor to not get clear information.

I also half-expect luddite or chaos-causer sabotage of driverless systems to become a thing. Like people will start doing stuff to damage or inhibit delivery drones if they ever become common.

Delivery companies already face lawsuits, fines, or reprimands every time one of their human drivers causes a wreck that leads to fatalities, so the question in the end is going to be whether or not the cost of cases involving driverless vehicles is lower, higher, or the same as ones involving humans. If they’re the same or lower, then humans are out and the machines will take their place with necessary software patches and upgrades implemented fleetwide any time one of them is involved in a wreck.

As for militant opponents of such technology, their biggest adversaries will be public opinion. We’ve seen time and time again across human history that any time machines were implemented to replace or supplement human labor, there inevitably were those who opposed such moves to the point of sabotage or even violence. Yet technology marches on and those opponents either lost the argument in the face of more goods at lower prices or they were themselves sabotaged by efforts to win over the public through promises of new/better jobs or higher wages for the workers that weren’t replaced.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 3:02:36am

“…when I was a weaver…”

The Weaver and the Factory Maid (2009 Remaster)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 27, 2024 • 3:11:21am

I’m in suBIRBia again.

Have a great memorial day. Take a moment to remember and give thanks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 3:18:32am

Not a holiday here, but I am taking the day off as I have to work this Thursday (which is a holiday here, Corpus Christi)

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DodgerFan1988  May 27, 2024 • 3:25:48am
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Targetpractice  May 27, 2024 • 3:31:20am

re: #106 DodgerFan1988

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Top Gun “Bullshit”

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Teukka  May 27, 2024 • 3:33:57am

re: #106 DodgerFan1988

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Iframe

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 27, 2024 • 3:43:06am
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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2024 • 3:49:48am

re: #21 Belafon

Go Idaho:

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 27, 2024 • 3:53:30am

Getting worse
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 3:53:42am

re: #106 DodgerFan1988

Michigan House Rep. Angela Rigas called for MDHHS officials to be hanged for treason, then said this is the hill she’s prepared to fight and die on.

again, I cannot see how we are going to get through this next election without violence and bloodshed. too many armed and crazy people are being radicalized and incited to go out “defend what is right”

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William Lewis  May 27, 2024 • 4:03:05am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, I cannot see how we are going to get through this next election without violence and bloodshed. too many armed and crazy people are being radicalized and incited to go out “defend what is right”

Oh, there will be some but I doubt there will be as much as you fear. The right wingers are, at the essential core, bullies and cowards and the slightest hint of opposition they melt away. They hate the risk of losing their La-Z-Boys & wide screen TVs & being fed green baloney like some wetback in Arizona.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 4:04:37am

re: #113 William Lewis

Oh, there will be some but I doubt there will be as much as you fear. The right wingers are, at the essential core, bullies and cowards and the slightest hint of opposition they melt away. They hate the risk of losing their La-Z-Boys & wide screen TVs & being fed green baloney like some wetback in Arizona.

I fear that many will take the opportunity if they think they can get away with it and there are plenty of authorities ready to look away or even take their side in any tussle they can provoke.

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2024 • 4:06:04am

re: #113 William Lewis

Oh, there will be some but I doubt there will be as much as you fear. The right wingers are, at the essential core, bullies and cowards and the slightest hint of opposition they melt away. They hate the risk of losing their La-Z-Boys & wide screen TVs & being fed green baloney like some wetback in Arizona.

Yeah, we’ve been getting reminded of that every day since Jan 6, 2021. They’re brave only when they have numerical and tactical superiority. Catch one by himself or a group of them with better arms than they’re brandishing and their balls suddenly drop off and disappear.

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Nerdy Fish  May 27, 2024 • 4:14:46am

Meh. I’ll take it. I’m working through enough exhaustion, a little pardle is acceptable.

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William Lewis  May 27, 2024 • 4:20:41am

re: #115 Targetpractice

Yeah, we’ve been getting reminded of that every day since Jan 6, 2021. They’re brave only when they have numerical and tactical superiority. Catch one by himself or a group of them with better arms than they’re brandishing and their balls suddenly drop off and disappear.

It’s quite amusing to be see how quiet they get when they see a leftist vet with an AK who knows how to use it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 4:29:13am

re: #117 William Lewis

It’s quite amusing to be see how quiet they get when they see a leftist vet with an AK who knows how to use it.

They will try to provoke some violence so they can present it as “self-defense” and get the police to back them up.

It will be more about disrupting the election than spilling blood, the goal will be to create as massive a clusterfuck as possible.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 27, 2024 • 4:31:33am

As I get older and as I spend more time reading history and thinking about the past, it seems I have convinced myself that it is nearly impossible to have much confidence that we really know and then accept that past on its own terms.

Nearly everyone looks at the past anachronistically.

That is, we take our own contemporary thinking and project that upon past people.

This is true in genealogy, in looking at our own family’s past.

It is true corporately in a polity - for example how the history of the US is presented and consumed.

This anachronistic thinking becomes even more prevalent when touching ancient history.

This is where I’ve come to appreciate the hard work of top historians, those who know that their biases run deep and attempt to present the past as accurately as possible and to make clear that most things are lost.

My own interest in religious history has led me to where I am convinced that the typical (especially American) view of the origins of Christianity is just way off base.

But we can bring this problem much closer in time to us.

Which gets us to the election-denying delusion that is spread now from the pulpits as seen so often.

The past becomes a weapon, a way of enforcing a view about this or that topic.

On the other hand, I think we need to give people space to change, to let them fail, even fail badly.

We can’t force epiphanies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 4:36:51am

re: #119 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And when it comes to issues of culture I like to point out that just because it was accepted back then does not necessarily make it acceptable today.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 27, 2024 • 4:43:30am

Historiography and science have much in common, but there are some key differences.

One of the cornerstones of modern science is that the data collected from empiricism is not special to a particular observer.

That is, repeatability is how we justify that the output of empiricism is true.

Historians have a harder job, because while fields of expertise such as archeology can exploit various specialties in modern science, all discoveries have to be interpreted.

A historian works from the written material, so before the invention of writing no history can be surmised. [This is a traditional view to which I hold.] This is then supplemented via archeology and perhaps anthropology.

Yet the need to interpret the material, written or physical artefact, remains.

And this is where people get to pick and choose what to believe: if historian/writer A interprets the past in a particular manner friendly to the beliefs of a reader then the reader accepts what the historian has surmised.

This kind of reader-bias is of course what ought to be exposed in a good education.

We hope.

And that is where we are failing as a society today: it is way too easy to pick and choose what/who to believe and find “evidence” to back that up.

That latter bit is where we are ironically worse off today than in the past.

I presumed that with the internet and the easy access to mountains of information that most people will come to a general consensus about this or that topic, even if they don’t like it.

But I presumed in error. It does appear as a great many people continue on in fantasies.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 27, 2024 • 4:46:34am
About Jason Bivins:
Jason C. Bivins is a professor in the Department of Philosophy and Religious Studies
at North Carolina State University. He is a specialist in the religions of the United States,
particularly the intersection of religions and politics since 1900.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 27, 2024 • 4:56:30am

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I happen to not agree with some of Bivins assertions.

Anyway, Senator Kinsey seems to have a handle on the electorate:

Stargate SG-1 Senator Kinsey Hypocrite

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 27, 2024 • 5:06:31am

Getting back to ancient history:

I remember writing a paper for a class, about the NT canon, and I basically took Irenaeus at his word.

Now, many years later, I think I was wrong to do so.

Irenaeus’ own belief system forced him to counter the likes of Marcion. And Irenaeus would not have done so if Marcion was not having some influence. Or, and this is what scares the fundamentalists, what if Marcion was relaying (to his second century readers) more accurately the beliefs of the first century than church leaders after Irenaeus wanted to accept.

Scholars today (outside of fundamentalist circles) now see the formation of the NT as a squishy thing, and none of the 27 books in the NT canon are what they started out to be or are what they are claimed.

Back to me being naive: young people are often too eager to please their mentors/teachers.

Applying this to today’s American landscape: how many people are too eager to please their in-group, their party, their families, etc.?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 5:09:29am

re: #124 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Applying this to today’s American landscape: how many people are too eager to please their in-group, their party, their families, etc.?

Let us don our red ties and go down to the court to declare the trial a travesty and a miscarriage of justice. And we know what happens to those who have miscarriages…

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Dangerman  May 27, 2024 • 5:41:38am

among other things, got the drain pipe from the hydroponic trough installed.

it’s a flexible pipe
because it’s buried under the gravel, i put it inside a pvc pipe for some crush protection

the end is connected it to a piece of bamboo because that’s the only part that’s visible

drilling through 36 inches of bamboo is…interesting

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Nojay UK  May 27, 2024 • 5:47:01am

re: #124 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Getting back to ancient history:
Scholars today (outside of fundamentalist circles) now see the formation of the NT as a squishy thing, and none of the 27 books in the NT canon are what they started out to be or are what they are claimed.

I had a God-botherer tell me to read the New Testament which would explain everything to me. I told them I didn’t understand Aramaic and Koine Greek so I couldn’t. They were confused by this.

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Nerdy Fish  May 27, 2024 • 5:47:38am

re: #127 Nojay UK

I had a God-botherer tell me to read the New Testament which would explain everything to me. I told them I didn’t understand Aramaic and Koine Greek so I couldn’t. They were confused by this.

Butbutbut the King James Version is the definitive and authoritative Word of God!!!

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Dangerman  May 27, 2024 • 5:51:52am

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will try to provoke some violence so they can present it as “self-defense” and get the police to back them up.

It will be more about disrupting the election than spilling blood, the goal will be to create as massive a clusterfuck as possible.

the thing to remember is there isn’t just ‘one’ election. there are literally over 170,000, all run at the local level. an average precinct is about 1100 registered voters.

maybe you can cause some confusion at a precinct even though there are procedures in place in anticipation of all kinds of knowns and unknowns happening. try to do that in multiple precincts simultaneously and effectively, not so easy.

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Dangerman  May 27, 2024 • 5:54:26am

re: #127 Nojay UK

I had a God-botherer tell me to read the New Testament which would explain everything to me. I told them I didn’t understand Aramaic and Koine Greek so I couldn’t. They were confused by this.

+1

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No Malarkey!  May 27, 2024 • 5:57:49am

History in short: for about three million years we and our ancestors lived in small nomadic groups of hunter/gatherers, using basic tools made of stone, bone and wood and life wasn’t bad. Then about twelve thousand years ago, humans had bred from wild plants grains that could be tended and harvested, which greatly increased the amount of nutritionally poor calories that could be extracted from the land through hard work. This resulted in an explosion in the population of farmers with a worst standard of living than the nomads, but they gradually displaced the nomads across the globe due to sheer numbers. Also, because the farmers hard work produced a surplus of calories, classes of warriors/priests/merchants/artisans arose who had a higher standard of living than the peasants, but the vast majority of people were on the bottom rung for about twelve thousand years. A couple of centuries ago, the Industrial Revolution occurred. For about a century the small capitalist class grew incredibly wealthy while the total world population rapidly increased while remaining very poor, then beginning just a few decades ago the living standards of the vast majority of humanity finally began improving so that now for the first time in three million years most people are better off than the nomads were. One can hope that continued technological progress will continue to uplift humanity, but since we are living in an era which is absolutely unprecedented in three million years of human history, no-one can say with confidence what happens next. Humans are basically very smart chimpanzees, which is to say we violently struggle for dominance and are insanely hostile to “others,” so unless we can succeed in rapidly transitioning into very smart bonobos, who are matriarchal and resolve conflict through love making instead of fighting, things could go very badly.

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Nerdy Fish  May 27, 2024 • 5:58:03am

re: #129 Dangerman

There are going to be lots of sporadic attempts to influence or disrupt elections. I think we all know this. The thing is, if we know it, the people running those elections likely know it, too. I don’t think they’re going to have success in enough places to make a difference. I think, in the end, it’s all going to come down to politics. I’m still terrified that Trump might win (especially when SCOTUS grants him complete immunity from prosecution for his many crimes), but I’m mostly convinced that it won’t happen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 6:00:15am

re: #131 No Malarkey!

yes, and back then the only property we “owned” was what we could carry with us. Paternity was probably important, but children were raised by the tribe.

It wasn’t until we started domesticating herds of animals and cultivating land that the question of inheriting property became a vitally important matter

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A Cranky One  May 27, 2024 • 6:01:56am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 6:06:52am

re: #134 A Cranky One

“What’s the wifi password here?”

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jeffreyw  May 27, 2024 • 6:10:22am

Fair Warning!

chimichangas!

Good morning!

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Nerdy Fish  May 27, 2024 • 6:11:30am

re: #136 jeffreyw

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A Cranky One  May 27, 2024 • 6:11:46am

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No Malarkey!  May 27, 2024 • 6:12:58am

re: #102 Targetpractice

Delivery companies already face lawsuits, fines, or reprimands every time one of their human drivers causes a wreck that leads to fatalities, so the question in the end is going to be whether or not the cost of cases involving driverless vehicles is lower, higher, or the same as ones involving humans. If they’re the same or lower, then humans are out and the machines will take their place with necessary software patches and upgrades implemented fleetwide any time one of them is involved in a wreck.

As for militant opponents of such technology, their biggest adversaries will be public opinion. We’ve seen time and time again across human history that any time machines were implemented to replace or supplement human labor, there inevitably were those who opposed such moves to the point of sabotage or even violence. Yet technology marches on and those opponents either lost the argument in the face of more goods at lower prices or they were themselves sabotaged by efforts to win over the public through promises of new/better jobs or higher wages for the workers that weren’t replaced.

I’m only an old lawyer who knows just enough about computers to bang out a legal report on Word, but for what little it’s worth I don’t think AI is going to advance rapidly enough to cause mass unemployment. Unless humanity’s declining birth rates reverse soon, we are facing a future of acute labor shortages as population growth flattens then starts declining and the population ages. So AI may just provide us with the robot slaves a mostly elderly and shrinking group of people need to take care of them. But as I said in my previous long post, this is an unprecedented era in human history, and only time will tell.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 6:13:30am

re: #138 A Cranky One

They are perceived as a threat to our children.

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No Malarkey!  May 27, 2024 • 6:16:08am

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are perceived as a threat to our children.

A perception artificially created by the Right to instill fear and hatred in their voting base and drive them to the polls.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 6:16:27am

re: #139 No Malarkey!

So AI may just provide us with the robot slaves a mostly elderly and shrinking group of people need to take care of them. But as I said in my previous long post, this is an unprecedented era in human history, and only time will tell.

There is an acute shortage of old-age caregivers and demand is growing faster than supply.

I personally would be happy in my dotage to have a robot servant to take care of the daily cooking and cleaning stuff as long as there was a real person who could drop by once in a while to check up on things and manage the things that AI couldn’t.

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Decatur Deb  May 27, 2024 • 6:17:37am

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are perceived as a threat to our children.

Only if they fall on the kids from a great height.

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No Malarkey!  May 27, 2024 • 6:21:21am

re: #143 Decatur Deb

Only if they fall on the kids from a great height.

The Right created a fantasy that the kids are being pressured into saying they feel like the opposite sex so that the transgender medical industry can make money off of mutilating their bodies, and this was such a great emergency that immediate legislation was necessary to ban it, which is just another baseless conspiracy theory they cook up to keep their voters angry and afraid.

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Nerdy Fish  May 27, 2024 • 6:21:48am

re: #141 No Malarkey!

A perception artificially created by the Right to instill fear and hatred in their voting base and drive them to the polls.

It stems from an intentional misunderstanding of sex and gender identity that says that anything other than cisgender heterosexuality must be “learned”, specifically, by being taught by perverts who identify themselves as “gay” or “trans” for the purposes of grooming. It’s nakedly apparent in the “groomer” language they use to denigrate gays and transgender folk, and the language they use in the legislation banning gender-affirming care and other “non-Biblical” concepts. It’s not that they don’t understand the idea that sexual attraction and gender identity are biologically determined and not trained, they are deliberately choosing not to believe it because it does not jibe with their religious beliefs.

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Dangerman  May 27, 2024 • 6:22:46am

re: #129 Dangerman

the thing to remember is there isn’t just ‘one’ election. there are literally over 170,000, all run at the local level. an average precinct is about 1100 registered voters.

maybe you can cause some confusion at a precinct even though there are procedures in place in anticipation of all kinds of knowns and unknowns happening. try to do that in multiple precincts simultaneously and effectively, not so easy.

i didnt not read today’s electoral-vote.com when i wrote that

Many Secretaries of State Are Prepared for Election Threats

All secretaries of state are keenly aware of the many threats were made to election workers in 2020 and are preparing to deal with a repeat performance. Yesterday, the top election officials of Arizona (Adrian Fontes, D), Georgia (Brad Raffensperger, R), Michigan (Jocelyn Benson, D), and Pennsylvania (Al Schmidt, R) appeared on NBC’s Meet the Press with Kristen Welker to discuss their preparedness for trouble on Election Day. Raffensperger told Welker: “We’re actually in pretty good shape. The counties have done a great job of recruitment.” Benson told her: “We have to also protect the people who protect democracy. And that’s a lot of what we’re working to do to prepare for this year.” Fontes called threats against election workers “domestic terrorism.” Schmidt agreed with Fontes.

In some cases, laws have been changed to provide more transparency. For example, in Georgia, officials are now allowed to prescan and preprocess mail-in ballots, so the results of mail-in ballots will be available during Election Night, instead of days later. This will largely the eliminate the “red mirage,” in which in-person votes on Election Day, which tend to be Republican, are later canceled by mail-in votes (typically Democratic) counted later. In any event, the election officials in these four states and many others are well aware of the challenges ahead and are dealing with them already. (V)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 6:24:53am

re: #145 Nerdy Fish

It is also based on the notion that since gays cannot reproduce, they can only convert “normal” people to their ungodly ways, and who better to work their evil wiles on but innocent, unsuspecting, defenseless children?

And it distracts attention from all the heterosexual groomers out there.

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Nerdy Fish  May 27, 2024 • 6:25:30am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is also based on the notion that since gays cannot reproduce, they can only convert “normal” people to their ungodly ways, and who better to work their evil wiles on but innocent, unsuspecting, defenseless children?

And it distracts attention from all the heterosexual groomers out there.

That is where I was going with that, but didn’t specifically include it in my post, yes.

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No Malarkey!  May 27, 2024 • 6:25:30am

re: #146 Dangerman

i didnt not read today’s electoral-vote.com when i wrote that

Many Secretaries of State Are Prepared for Election Threats

That is reassuring, though Georgia has also passed other laws to try to suppress voting.

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Dangerman  May 27, 2024 • 6:28:27am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is also based on the notion that since gays cannot reproduce, they can only convert “normal” people to their ungodly ways, and who better to work their evil wiles on but innocent, unsuspecting, defenseless children?

And it distracts attention from all the heterosexual groomers out there.

they never explain about all the ‘normal’ people who cannot reproduce

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 6:28:48am

re: #146 Dangerman

In some cases, laws have been changed to provide more transparency. For example, in Georgia, officials are now allowed to prescan and preprocess mail-in ballots, so the results of mail-in ballots will be available during Election Night, instead of days later.

This is uplifting news.

Until the 2020 election, mail-in ballots generally reflected the overall turnout and rarely tipped the outcome except in ultra-close races. But that all changed with Covid and then with the GOP candidate excoriating mail-in ballots as “fraudulent” for the very reason that they did tip the outcome against him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 6:30:27am

re: #150 Dangerman

they never explain about all the ‘normal’ people who cannot reproduce

It is based on the assumption that there are only two sexes and two genders and anything that varies from that pattern is sinful and an abomination unto the Lord.

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Dangerman  May 27, 2024 • 6:32:25am

re: #149 No Malarkey!

That is reassuring, though Georgia has also passed other laws to try to suppress voting.

that goes to their previous item today

What Exactly Is a Rigged Election?

unfortunately there are some legal ways for governments to prevent/deter eligible voters from voting. or make it more difficult to.

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A Cranky One  May 27, 2024 • 6:32:31am

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Dangerman  May 27, 2024 • 6:38:55am

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is uplifting news.

Until the 2020 election, mail-in ballots were generally reflected the overall turnout and rarely tipped the outcome except in ultra-close races. But that all changed with Covid and then with the GOP candidate excoriating mail-in ballots as “fraudulent” for the very reason that they did tip the outcome against him.

i know what you mean that mail-ins have become a factor.
but careful here. mostly it’s because an in person vote was swapped for a mail in vote.

what TFG claims and may or may not actually believe/think happens on election night is not how totaling all legitimate ballots works.

if literally all mail in ballots were counted first, which votes then tipped the outcome? the mail-ins or the last people that voted in person?

don’t make me rant about the jar of jellybeans and the order of counting. ;-)

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Decatur Deb  May 27, 2024 • 6:40:02am

re: #144 No Malarkey!

Those that believe such are sort of psycho.

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Nerdy Fish  May 27, 2024 • 6:40:28am

re: #156 Decatur Deb

Those that believe such are sort of psycho.

Considering whom we’re discussing in this context, you’re very much not wrong.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  May 27, 2024 • 6:41:29am

re: #155 Dangerman

Or, it’s only over when the counting is done. There is no ‘tipping’.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 27, 2024 • 6:43:27am

re: #85 Targetpractice

I strongly suspect that the plan is a variation on that originally set up for 2020: Go out to the press as soon as Trump has even a small lead in the overall polls to demand the count be brought to an immediate end and for Biden to concede. And all counting must be done by midnight, with all uncounted ballots, late-arriving ballots, and provisional ballots to be chucked as some mutated version of the Constitution says the Founders intended only the votes cast and counted on Tuesday to be valid.

Of course, all the states in which he might get away with that are the ones who will vote for DT anyway.

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Oblongatis  May 27, 2024 • 6:45:20am

re: #154 A Cranky One

Any chance of getting the full-sized meme for that?

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Dangerman  May 27, 2024 • 6:46:25am

re: #158 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Or, it’s only over when the counting is done. There is no ‘tipping’.

i have added your excellent bumper sticker summary to my saved notes for next time

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 6:47:21am

re: #155 Dangerman

He certainly knew, but he wanted to sell us the story of how he had “legitimately” won the election until 20,000 mules showed up in the middle of the night with boxes and boxes of illegal fake votes.

He knew that would look good to his base and that they would buy his stories about the election being stolen from him.

Remember that he maintained as far back 2016 that he had actually won the popular vote, but Hillary had “millions of illegal voters” cast ballots for her: a charge which he never proved in the slightest.

He was setting us up then for his 2020 ploy, which came within a hair of succeeding.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 27, 2024 • 6:48:10am

re: #104 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m in suBIRBia again.

Have a great memorial day. Take a moment to remember and give thanks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 6:48:43am

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Markm1960  May 27, 2024 • 6:54:26am

re: #117 William Lewis

It’s quite amusing to be see how quiet they get when they see a leftist vet with an AK who knows how to use it.

Remember that they really didn’t like the “Not fucking around coalition” Hundreds of black men carrying weapons and matching in formation

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 6:56:26am

re: #165 Markm1960

Remember that they really didn’t like the “Not fucking around coalition” Hundreds of black men carrying weapons and matching in formation

Remember: In MAGAmerica the 1A does not apply to Muslims and the 2A does not apply to blacks

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A Cranky One  May 27, 2024 • 6:57:35am

re: #160 Oblongatis

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 6:58:32am

re: #167 A Cranky One

“Press 1 for English
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Press 4 for Russian…”

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Eventual Carrion  May 27, 2024 • 7:01:24am

re: #104 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m in suBIRBia again.

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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2024 • 7:01:28am
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Nojay UK  May 27, 2024 • 7:04:04am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Press 1 for English
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Press 3 for Latin
Press 4 for Russian…”

First time I visited Niigata in Japan I was surprised to see signage in Russian and Korean, that is until I realised it was a port city on the northern coast of Honshu and a lot of the shipping traffic came from Russian and Korean ports.

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mmmirele  May 27, 2024 • 7:05:28am

re: #15 darthstar

This sounds like an ad from Big Belly.

I seem to have hit the cat jackpot. One of my cats (Sakura) not only like belly rubs, but she’s now added a belly rub to the morning ritual of sniffing my breath. I’ve never had a cat that asked for belly rubs.

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Nerdy Fish  May 27, 2024 • 7:06:45am

re: #172 mmmirele

I seem to have hit the cat jackpot. One of my cats (Sakura) not only like belly rubs, but she’s now added a belly rub to the morning ritual of sniffing my breath. I’ve never had a cat that asked for belly rubs.

My cat does this as well. I don’t quite understand it.

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mmmirele  May 27, 2024 • 7:07:10am

re: #31 darthstar

Sad day for me…the bank I thought I’d retire working for is officially no more…

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Was this a buyout by another bank, or a forced FDIC closure?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 7:12:31am

re: #171 Nojay UK

First time I visited Niigata in Japan I was surprised to see signage in Russian and Korean, that is until I realised it was a port city on the northern coast of Honshu and a lot of the shipping traffic came from Russian and Korean ports.

I was greatly amused when we visited Venice in 2016 and heard shopkeepers spoke Russian with an Italian accent.

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Oblongatis  May 27, 2024 • 7:12:34am

re: #167 A Cranky One

Thank you. Well worth saving.

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Eventual Carrion  May 27, 2024 • 7:12:45am

re: #136 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Exactly, they only needed one or the other bumper sticker to get that message across.

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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2024 • 7:13:47am

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Belafon  May 27, 2024 • 7:14:38am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 27, 2024 • 7:14:54am

re: #163 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

For me, a bad way to start the week.
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Belafon  May 27, 2024 • 7:15:43am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 27, 2024 • 7:16:27am

re: #170 Dave In Austin

Honest to God, he’s such a broken human being.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 7:16:36am

re: #174 mmmirele

Was this a buyout by another bank, or a forced FDIC closure?

My ex-GF in Germany was fortunate to get out of commercial banking in time and find a job with the Federal Reserve. Most all her former colleagues got rationalized out of a job, and as most of them were 50 years old or more and had great trouble finding new employment.

Banks are closing their affiliates right and left. Which is not a big problem most of the time, I do Internet banking and I can always get cash money out on my bank card at the grocery store.

In fact I even saw a lady there paying money into her account at the checkout using her phone app.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 7:19:35am

re: #182 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Honest to God, he’s such a broken human being.

and a magnet for all the human flotsam and jetsam swimming about in our society

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Mattand  May 27, 2024 • 7:19:57am

re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Daily Mail

Biden, 81, is seen shuffling out of Delaware clothes shop during Memorial Day weekend trip home

and then, more than halfway down the article:

It was a busy day for the president, as earlier Saturday, he delivered the commencement address at the Military Academy at West Point in New York.

Where he read all the names and shook each cadet’s hand. Without stumbling, slurring or rambling off fictional film characters…

LOL, now we know where Jon Stewart is getting is Biden research from: highlight that Biden’s old and then bury all the activities he pulls off despite being old.

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William Lewis  May 27, 2024 • 7:20:24am

`OUCH!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 7:23:13am

re: #185 Mattand

LOL, now we know where Jon Stewart is getting is Biden research from: highlight that Biden’s old and then bury all the activities he pulls off despite being old.

And if he winds up being hospitalized for even for a few days over a minor condition between now and November we are going to hear no end of how he is too old and frail to be President.

(not to mention the specter of a Black Woman taking over in his place)

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mmmirele  May 27, 2024 • 7:25:18am

re: #76 No Malarkey!

My Rep is Jamie Comer; nuff said about him. He is only my rep because my democratic county was gerrymandered into his ruby red district to ensure that we would never again have any voice in selecting who represents us in Washington.

After two decades of being represented by Mesa Mormons (Jeff Flake, then Andy Biggs) in the House, for 2022 I was redistricted into a Leans Dem House seat held by a former mayor of Phoenix, Greg Stanton. Additionally, I got redistricted into a Leans Dem House/Senate district for the state. For the first time since I moved to Arizona, I’m actually represented by Democrats, and in particular, I’m NOT represented by that goddamn insurrectionist Andy Biggs!

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  May 27, 2024 • 7:25:37am

And a good Monday to all.

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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2024 • 7:26:33am

re: #179 Belafon

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Every time I hear that I absolutely cringe.
I just hate it.

Shouldn’t it be me saying “Thank you for “LETTING”
me serve” instead?

I let loose on a checker at Lowe’s one time for saying that.

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ericblair  May 27, 2024 • 7:30:26am

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is uplifting news.

Until the 2020 election, mail-in ballots generally reflected the overall turnout and rarely tipped the outcome except in ultra-close races. But that all changed with Covid and then with the GOP candidate excoriating mail-in ballots as “fraudulent” for the very reason that they did tip the outcome against him.

This was a very specific situation in the middle of the COVID pandemic before vaccines were available, and the people who didn’t give a shit about public health (GOP) would go vote in person, and the people who did (Dems) wanted to vote mail-in. As you said, historically this isn’t the case at all and mail-ins if anything leaned GOP, but the goopers completely overlearned this lesson and are now shooting their feet off.

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mmmirele  May 27, 2024 • 7:31:05am

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Euractiv, May 27, 2024

(more)

I don’t think Spain is much in the mood for outsiders to tell them how to run their business. They’re still working through Javier Milei (president of Argentina) coming to Spain, speaking at a right-wing convention, criticizing the Spanish PM Pedro Sánchez’s wife, and then having his spokesperson go out and say that the trip to Spain was both personal and presidential. That was the week before last. And yeah, Spain withdrew its ambassador for consultations.

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mmmirele  May 27, 2024 • 7:37:18am

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Considering the worldwide accusations of rape and assault by Uber drivers, and the corporation doing what it can to cover that up, I imagine Uber is going to collapse before they get to their autonomous vehicles. That and in most of the USA, Uber is not available.

As for autonomous trucks, too easy to sabotage.

I work in Tempe, AZ and I drive up and down Priest Dr. going to and from the soulless operations center where I have a cubicle. Recently, I have started seeing autonomous (as in no fucking person in the front seat) Waymo vehicles also driving up and down Priest Dr.

I do not know how long it’s going to take for people to see and get used to nobody in the driver’s seat of these Waymo vehicles. I know I am not used to it.

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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2024 • 7:40:06am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 27, 2024 • 7:40:40am

Anyone have any experience with Bath Fitter? I’m thinking about a bathtub overlay/tile overlay (around the tub and half walls; think wainscoting but it’s tile not wood).

We’re old so doing it ourselves is out. The tub is like cast iron so the thought of anyone doing demolition on our only full bathroom makes me breakout in hives), and I like the thought of done in a day.

I think the cost is around $5k or thereabouts which I’m ok with.

Anyone ever heard anything of their quality, workmanship, etc.?

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Dangerman  May 27, 2024 • 7:40:56am

Donald Trump promised to crush pro-Palestinian protests on college campuses, telling a roomful of donors — a group that he joked included “98 percent of my Jewish friends” — that he would expel student demonstrators from the United States, the Washington Post reports.

But something something biden

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darthstar  May 27, 2024 • 7:43:31am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 7:44:31am

re: #193 mmmirele

I work in Tempe, AZ and I drive up and down Priest Dr. going to and from the soulless operations center where I have a cubicle. Recently, I have started seeing autonomous (as in no fucking person in the front seat) Waymo vehicles also driving up and down Priest Dr.

I do not know how long it’s going to take for people to see and get used to nobody in the driver’s seat of these Waymo vehicles. I know I am not used to it.

They need to put a Johnny Cab dummy in the seat.

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jeffreyw  May 27, 2024 • 7:44:42am
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jeffreyw  May 27, 2024 • 7:46:17am
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Vicious Babushka  May 27, 2024 • 7:47:24am

This is Uncle Ira, he was killed when his troop ship was hit by a kamikaze pilot in the Pacific in 1944.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 7:49:57am

I had two uncles who served in WW2, one in Europe and one in the Pacific, they both came back alive an unhurt.

My grandad was a medic in the US Army in 1916, he served with General Pershing on his Punitive Expedition into Mexico.

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Rightwingconspirator  May 27, 2024 • 7:50:47am

re: #186 William Lewis

`OUCH!

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LOL. Some think it does.

Ever notice going minimalist on the gear nets better results quite often?

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Nerdy Fish  May 27, 2024 • 7:51:04am

My mother’s father served in England in the Army Air Corps in WWII, as a mechanic. He came home. I wonder how many times he sat in the hangar, waiting for friends to come back across the Channel, and they didn’t make it.

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2024 • 7:51:08am

re: #201 jeffreyw

That’s funny…but this is all too real:

Jones Turkey and Gravy Soda
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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2024 • 7:51:52am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 7:55:47am

as much as I would like to embrace the rubber chicken story, it seems to refer only to the ones that RFK Jr. supporters had passed out at the convention and not a blanket ban.

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Belafon  May 27, 2024 • 7:56:09am

re: #197 Dangerman

An old article, though.

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Unabogie  May 27, 2024 • 7:57:48am

I’m feeling too lazy to look it up. Can someone explain what the hell rubber chickens signify?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 7:58:40am

re: #210 Unabogie

I’m feeling too lazy to look it up. Can someone explain what the hell rubber chickens signify?

I think just as squeaky noisemakers, I heard they also confiscated kazoos

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 27, 2024 • 8:00:32am

re: #211 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think just as squeaky noisemakers, I heard they also confiscated kazoos

Surprised they did not start chanting “Lock him up!”.

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Unabogie  May 27, 2024 • 8:04:30am

re: #211 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think just as squeaky noisemakers, I heard they also confiscated kazoos

TIL that rubber chickens make sounds.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 8:05:52am

re: #213 Unabogie

TIL that rubber chickens make sounds.

Yes, you hit someone over the head with it and it makes a squeaky sound. Endless fun for the feeble-minded…

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Decatur Deb  May 27, 2024 • 8:07:10am

A rubber chicken has achieved an altitude of 120,000 feet AGL.
earthobservatory.nasa.gov

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Dangerman  May 27, 2024 • 8:07:42am

re: #209 Belafon

An old article, though.

The tweet is old

The WaPo story is today

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Dangerman  May 27, 2024 • 8:08:42am

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Nerdy Fish  May 27, 2024 • 8:08:59am

re: #214 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, you hit someone over the head with it and it makes a squeaky sound. Endless fun for the feeble-minded…

Or you could just squeeze it to accomplish the same effect, but who among us hasn’t smacked someone upside the head with a rubber chicken?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 8:09:51am

re: #218 Nerdy Fish

Or you could just squeeze it to accomplish the same effect, but who among us hasn’t smacked someone upside the head with a rubber chicken?

That is the purpose they were invented for: slapstick (or rather slapchick) comedy.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 27, 2024 • 8:12:50am

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Belafon  May 27, 2024 • 8:13:10am
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Joe Bacon ✅  May 27, 2024 • 8:16:56am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 8:18:25am

The Velveetdom Caucus!

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Hecuba's daughter  May 27, 2024 • 8:20:39am

re: #81 No Malarkey!

I am old enough to remember the widespread concern about Y2K, which resulted in it not being a problem at all. Hopefully the same will be true of AI.

We spent months — years — rewriting software to accommodate 4 digit years.

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Vicious Babushka  May 27, 2024 • 8:24:57am

re: #224 Hecuba’s daughter

We spent months — years — rewriting software to accommodate 4 digit years.

I remember doing bit flipping and other shenanigans with a 2-digit date field, including syncing it up with the time tone voice from 555-1212.

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Unabogie  May 27, 2024 • 8:27:07am

re: #81 No Malarkey!

I am old enough to remember the widespread concern about Y2K, which resulted in it not being a problem at all. Hopefully the same will be true of AI.

As others have pointed out, Y2K was indeed a huge problem. It didn’t turn out to be a catastrophe because billions were spent hiring programmers to update old software and hardware.

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wrenchwench  May 27, 2024 • 8:28:52am

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 27, 2024 • 8:30:24am

re: #224 Hecuba’s daughter

We spent months — years — rewriting software to accommodate 4 digit years.

Yep. I hate when people act like it was nothing, when it only turned out OK because we did a lot of work to avoid the disaster. If we’d ignored it and just let it happen, we would have had critical systems down for months, and an economic crash while we frantically fixed it.

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wrenchwench  May 27, 2024 • 8:33:08am

re: #226 Unabogie

As others have pointed out, Y2K was indeed a huge problem. It didn’t turn out to be a catastrophe because billions were spent hiring programmers to update old software and hardware.

Mr. w and I were living in (and managing) a 5 apt. building in 1999. One of the tenants got way into disaster preparation for Y2K. Then when 9-11-01 happened, Mr. w commented to this tenant that he must have felt a tiny bit better having done all that disaster prep for Y2K, and tenant said, ‘What was Y2K?’

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Nerdy Fish  May 27, 2024 • 8:33:43am

re: #228 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

Yep. I hate when people act like it was nothing, when it only turned out OK because we did a lot of work to avoid the disaster. If we’d ignored it and just let it happen, we would have had critical systems down for months, and an economic crash while we frantically fixed it.

The Y2K freakout-that-was-a-nothingburger was one of the reasons I wanted to become a programmer. That was a monumental effort.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 27, 2024 • 8:34:00am

re: #104 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m in suBIRBia again.

Have a great memorial day. Take a moment to remember and give thanks.

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Unabogie  May 27, 2024 • 8:35:45am

You guys, I’m starting to think Donald Trump may not be a good person to lead the country.

Mastodon

Ah, links to Mastodon posts that show Threads links are borked.

threads.net

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 27, 2024 • 8:36:32am

re: #206 Dr Lizardo

That’s funny…but this is all too real:

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So is this, Doc!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 27, 2024 • 8:37:01am

re: #226 Unabogie

As others have pointed out, Y2K was indeed a huge problem. It didn’t turn out to be a catastrophe because billions were spent hiring programmers to update old software and hardware.

Company I worked for was taking it into account in 1993. New application development used 4-digit years or simply stored them as date fields*. Some applications were earmarked to be scrapped by 1998 at the latest. And a project was in planning by 1996 and started implementation in 1997 to do conversion work on the systems that had to be modified to handle Y2K by one method or another.

* - Essentially stored as an offset in milliseconds from a fixed date setting an epoch time. I’ve seen a “zero time” of both 1970 and 1858 in systems. This became a lot more common to use in the 1980s and 1990s as the great computer memory crunch eased and programmers were no longer trying to squeeze numeric information in as little memory space as possible. (Yes packed decimal, I remember you.)

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 27, 2024 • 8:38:32am

Memories of college back in the mid 70s when the Giant Eagle ran out of Swanson Swiss Steak frozen dinners and the manager knew this was my backup dinner that rescued me from the Pitt Crapeteria

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2024 • 8:39:28am

re: #233 Joe Bacon ✅

So is this, Doc!

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That’s…uh….quite the abomination.

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A Cranky One  May 27, 2024 • 8:40:32am

There was a lot of hysteria as a result of “experts” testifying to congress.

I remember one “expert” who claimed that all integrated circuits have internal calendars and so everything would break.

Having designed countless circuits over the years, I knew this was total and complete bullshit.

As noted, there were a lot of systems which required fixes to handle the date change. And a lot of hard work went into mitigating the effects.

But the fear mongering didn’t help the situation and when those dire predictions didn’t come true, many people dismissed the whole situation as hype.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 8:44:15am

re: #237 A Cranky One

There was a lot of hysteria as a result of “experts” testifying to congress.

I remember one “expert” who claimed that all integrated circuits have internal calendars and so everything would break.

We were worried that Russian nukes would start launching themselves.

I recall flying back from America on New Year’s Eve 1999 in the afternoon and the Frankfurt Airport was nearly empty. Nobody wanted to be in the air at midnight.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 27, 2024 • 8:44:19am

re: #235 Joe Bacon ✅

Do I even want to know that that orange blob is?

I didn’t think so.

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darthstar  May 27, 2024 • 8:44:41am
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wrenchwench  May 27, 2024 • 8:45:21am

re: #236 Dr Lizardo

That’s…uh….quite the abomination.

It would be fun to drop that in a trick-or-treater’s bag.

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darthstar  May 27, 2024 • 8:45:53am

re: #239 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Do I even want to know that that orange blob is?

I didn’t think so.

Soylent red - it’s delicious.

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A Cranky One  May 27, 2024 • 8:46:14am

re: #241 wrenchwench

It would be fun to drop that in a trick-or-treater’s bag.

You’re mean.

Don’t ever change.

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2024 • 8:48:43am

re: #241 wrenchwench

It would be fun to drop that in a trick-or-treater’s bag.

LOL that’s a good way to get your house TP’d in retaliation 😄

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wrenchwench  May 27, 2024 • 8:51:38am

re: #244 Dr Lizardo

LOL that’s a good way to get your house TP’d in retaliation 😄

It could bring out the eggs.

They’re probably too expensive now.

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Eventual Carrion  May 27, 2024 • 8:52:57am

re: #228 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

Yep. I hate when people act like it was nothing, when it only turned out OK because we did a lot of work to avoid the disaster. If we’d ignored it and just let it happen, we would have had critical systems down for months, and an economic crash while we frantically fixed it.

Yes, I worked for a hospital system at the time. My part was making sure every portable medical device would handle the switch-over correctly. More than a few vendors were not planning testing or were not real sure if there would be a problem early on. I spent many months contacting the vendors and testing machines looking for any problems. I only remember one vendor we had to quit using one of their machines because they had not addressed the issue in that model (but it was an old model, and their newer model would be just fine). And in a hospital it is a matter of life or death.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 27, 2024 • 8:54:16am

re: #239 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Do I even want to know that that orange blob is?

I didn’t think so.

The was Swanson’s “3-course” Frozen Turkey Dinner with tomato soup & apple crisp. Actually edible unlike the Roast Beast in the Pitt Crapeteria.

I still remember the absolute worst meal they served—“Beef A La Dutch”—stewed beef chunks in pea soup. I took one look at it and…nope…hightailed it out of there and over to the Giant Eagle.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 27, 2024 • 8:56:34am

Fuck those sick freaks doing this!

Jan. 6 supporters hold Memorial Day ‘Freedom March’ for ‘hero’ Ashli Babbitt

Supporters of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol scheduled a march in support of right-wing MAGA activist Ashli Babbitt for Memorial Day.

For the second year in a row, MAGA followers planned to gather in Washington, D.C. to march in remembrance of Babbitt, who was shot to death after breaking into the Capitol on Jan. 6.

The groups organizing the event vowed that the march would be peaceful. They included 4ashli.com, americanpatriotrelief.com, stophate.com, americanproject.com, patriotmailproject.com, jopatriotnews.com, and deb4freedom.com.

The march was set to begin at 3 p.m. at the Peace Monument in D.C. Demonstrators said they would walk to the “D.C. Gulag, in remembrance of Ashli Babbitt and others who gave all in service of this great Country.”

The groups also encouraged supporters to participate in the Ashli Babbitt Memorial Day Hero workout earlier in the day. The event was scheduled to coincide with the exercise period for the incarcerated Jan. 6 defendants.

They are lower than scum…

rawstory.com

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A Cranky One  May 27, 2024 • 8:56:36am

re: #239 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Do I even want to know that that orange blob is?

I didn’t think so.

When I hear “orange blob” my first thought is The Flatulent Guy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 8:58:51am

re: #248 Joe Bacon ✅

Ashli Babbit is the Horst Wessel of the modern fascist movement.

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Eventual Carrion  May 27, 2024 • 9:00:58am

re: #234 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Company I worked for was taking it into account in 1993. New application development used 4-digit years or simply stored them as date fields*. Some applications were earmarked to be scrapped by 1998 at the latest. And a project was in planning by 1996 and started implementation in 1997 to do conversion work on the systems that had to be modified to handle Y2K by one method or another.

* - Essentially stored as an offset in milliseconds from a fixed date setting an epoch time. I’ve seen a “zero time” of both 1970 and 1858 in systems. This became a lot more common to use in the 1980s and 1990s as the great computer memory crunch eased and programmers were no longer trying to squeeze numeric information in as little memory space as possible. (Yes packed decimal, I remember you.)

Sadly I still have to deal with it. I have been supporting a system that was written about 17 years ago. Built on an early 90’s flat file system (don’t get me started on indexes for them). Still use packed decimals. I am the only person at me company that really knows anything about the system. I have given some talks and demos of the system, will have to do another set because of turnover. They are in the process of replacing the system (this is the 4th try in 15 years). I think this try will actually succeed, there are some good people on the team. I’ll be 63 soon and have been thinking of retiring since I hit 62. I’ll probably hang around for another 2 years, but after that I am out. Hopefully they can have all dealerships off my system and onto the new one by then.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 27, 2024 • 9:14:19am

re: #248 Joe Bacon ✅

The MAGAT Horst Wessel.

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2024 • 9:15:03am

re: #252 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The MAGAT Horst Wessel.

Yeah, but without the snazzy tune.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 27, 2024 • 9:16:58am

re: #253 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, but without the snazzy tune.

I’m sure there will be a C&W song in her honor before too long.

Or Ted Nugent and Kid Rock can write an anthem in her honor.

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Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2024 • 9:19:25am

re: #254 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I’m sure there will be a C&W song in her honor before too long.

The only C&W song about her should be done by Samuel Saint, the C&W satirist. He’s quite good at that sort of thing.

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BlueSpotinAL ✅  May 27, 2024 • 9:26:56am

re: #254 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I’m sure there will be a C&W song in her honor before too long.

Or Ted Nugent and Kid Rock can write an anthem in her honor.

GMTA, except I was thinking Lee Greenwood.

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BigPapa  May 27, 2024 • 9:30:11am

‘Happy Memorial Day to all, including Human Scum’

Some dude, rotting out from the inside. Won’t be long.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 27, 2024 • 9:31:50am

re: #248 Joe Bacon ✅

Fuck those sick freaks doing this!

Jan. 6 supporters hold Memorial Day ‘Freedom March’ for ‘hero’ Ashli Babbitt

………

They are lower than scum…

rawstory.com

Daily I post an insult on X in response to tweets from those who praise her and demand Byrd be arrested for murder. But I’m not the only one there —- others post similar objections, often including the phrase FAFO

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wrenchwench  May 27, 2024 • 9:38:52am
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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 27, 2024 • 9:48:03am
‘Knocked it Out of the Park!’ MAGA Sycophants Hail Trump’s Speech At Libertarian Convention — Despite Fact He Was Booed Throughout

Donald Trump may have been loudly booed throughout his speech at the Libertarian National Convention Saturday night. But to hear MAGA Republicans tell it, the former president “knocked it out of the park.”

Utah Sen. Mike Lee (R), who himself was roundly jeered at the convention, posted a video to X shortly after Trump’s speech:

Ok, so I just finished speaking at the Libertarian Convention and then President Trump spoke right after me. This was amazing. No other president in history, to my knowledge, has ever showed up at another political party’s convention, openly asked for their endorsement, and just really hit the ground running. Well done, President Trump. I think you won the hearts and minds of a whole lot of Libertarians out there and a whole lot of other Americans.

mediaite.com

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Dave In Austin  May 27, 2024 • 9:48:39am

re: #259 wrenchwench

At work……

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(((Archangel1)))  May 27, 2024 • 9:51:35am

re: #260 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

mediaite.com

There’s delusional, and then there’s this.
The Tangerine Traitor is totally tripping.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 9:53:47am

re: #260 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

Ok, so I just finished speaking at the Libertarian Convention and then President Trump spoke right after me. This was amazing. No other president in history, to my knowledge, has ever showed up at another political party’s convention, openly asked for their endorsement, and got booed and rejected.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2024 • 9:54:22am

re: #262 (((Archangel1)))

There’s delusional, and then there’s this.
The Tangerine Traitor is totally tripping.

These people have no discernible relationship with reality.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 9:58:29am

and while they are honoring seditionists and vandals:

Congress defies its own law, fails to install plaque honoring Jan. 6 police officers

A spending bill passed and signed into law in March 2023 required the creation of a plaque listing the names of officers who served on Jan. 6 and required it to be placed on the western front of the Capitol, the site of some of the most violent attacks against officers.

A CBS News review of the dispute over the plaque — and the delay in its completion — yielded unclear responses from House leadership and revealed concerns that the honorary plaque is mired in the toxic politics of 2024 and has fallen victim to the fight over the election denialism that arose after President Biden won the 2020 presidential election.

…”Officers were brutally attacked. Yet, the plaque hasn’t been finished,” [Representative Zoe Lofgren] said. “It’s wrong. Not complying with the law is also disrespectful to the officers who saved our lives.”

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Hecuba's daughter  May 27, 2024 • 9:59:35am

re: #262 (((Archangel1)))

There’s delusional, and then there’s this.
The Tangerine Traitor is totally tripping.

Lee’s not delusional; he’s just lying and his voters are fine with that.

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wrenchwench  May 27, 2024 • 10:06:33am
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Vicious Babushka  May 27, 2024 • 10:14:18am

The golden oldies…

Mastodon

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Romantic Heretic  May 27, 2024 • 10:18:23am

re: #260 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

One of the major symptoms of information disease is that reality can’t get through the filters the disease puts in place. They literally cannot observe the world anymore. Although in Lee’s case it may be pure sycophancy that makes him say this stupid shit.

Not sure which is worse.

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prairiefire  May 27, 2024 • 10:19:22am

re: #259 wrenchwench

Saved!! Ha, that’s brilliant.

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wrenchwench  May 27, 2024 • 10:19:56am

re: #268 Vicious Babushka

The golden oldies…

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When you look back, it almost looks like Trump hasn’t gotten any worse, because he has always been so fucking bad.

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DodgerFan1988  May 27, 2024 • 10:20:12am
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austin_blue  May 27, 2024 • 10:26:50am

cnn.com

Bibi said it was a “tragic mistake”.

So, fire those responsible and send them to The Hague for war crimes?

No?

How curious!

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2024 • 10:36:13am

re: #265 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Couldn’t a group of Democratic reps get a plaque commissioned and then put it where it’s supposed to go?

This doesn’t seem complicated.

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jeffreyw  May 27, 2024 • 10:36:48am

As you think about Memorial Day, I thought I should share some editorial cartoons from Michael de Adder.

Evilbunny Pottymouth - Remember D-Day and fight all Fascists! (@mrsquirrel.bsky.social) 2024-05-27T14:05:51.911Z

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2024 • 10:37:31am

re: #273 austin_blue

The IDF has a very curious pattern of “tragic mistakes.”

/////

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2024 • 10:43:21am

re: #274 Eclectic Cyborg

Couldn’t a group of Democratic reps get a plaque commissioned and then put it where it’s supposed to go?

This doesn’t seem complicated.

It was mandated and paid for, hence they expected that it would get done.

Wishful thinking, I guess and yes, they need to take matters in their own hands. Make sure the plaque mentions that the rioters were there at the behest and prompting of DJT.

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wrenchwench  May 27, 2024 • 10:44:28am
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Hecuba's daughter  May 27, 2024 • 10:44:30am

Bill Walton died.

Updated with link: espn.com

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Semper Fi  May 27, 2024 • 10:45:56am

re: #272 DodgerFan1988

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Bill Walton 6’ 11” gone too soon. So many times I enjoyed watching him perform.

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Belafon  May 27, 2024 • 10:50:47am

re: #274 Eclectic Cyborg

Couldn’t a group of Democratic reps get a plaque commissioned and then put it where it’s supposed to go?

This doesn’t seem complicated.

Why pin it on the Democrats since Republicans are in charge of the House?

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Dangerman  May 27, 2024 • 10:52:06am

re: #234 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Company I worked for was taking it into account in 1993. New application development used 4-digit years or simply stored them as date fields*. Some applications were earmarked to be scrapped by 1998 at the latest. And a project was in planning by 1996 and started implementation in 1997 to do conversion work on the systems that had to be modified to handle Y2K by one method or another.

* - Essentially stored as an offset in milliseconds from a fixed date setting an epoch time. I’ve seen a “zero time” of both 1970 and 1858 in systems. This became a lot more common to use in the 1980s and 1990s as the great computer memory crunch eased and programmers were no longer trying to squeeze numeric information in as little memory space as possible. (Yes packed decimal, I remember you.)

Thats what we did
When I was designing financial accounting systems in the 80s we used Julian dates.
Not y2k prescient. Just dumb luck the 4gl/dbms combined were using saved it that way.
Never had to reprogram anything

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Hecuba's daughter  May 27, 2024 • 10:55:25am

re: #276 Eclectic Cyborg

The IDF has a very curious pattern of “tragic mistakes.”

/////

We have the same history — bombing areas remote from here, slaughtering in areas where there were no enemies that posed any threat to our survival.

OTOH: Netanyahu and his administration have no concern at all about killing innocents. Israel does face a real danger that we haven’t in decades, an enemy eager to commit genocide. Too many in Bibi’s government are a mirror image of their foes — willingness and for some an eagerness to kill all Palestinians. Sadly, I have friends — people who are not Trump supporters — who share that view

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Hecuba's daughter  May 27, 2024 • 11:00:18am

re: #282 Dangerman

This what we did
When I was designing financial accounting systems in the 80s we used Julian dates.
Not y2k prescient. Just dumb luck the 4gl/dbms combined were using saved it that way.
Never had to reprogram anything

We had issues with space and memory in the 70’s — and couldn’t afford to devote the 2 additional characters for date for our pension systems, given the multiple dates for each individual.

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(((Archangel1)))  May 27, 2024 • 11:01:19am
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wrenchwench  May 27, 2024 • 11:06:22am

Well, yeah, NOW it’s flat.

Mastodon

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 27, 2024 • 11:07:18am

re: #275 jeffreyw

That last one just gave me all the feels.

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Jay C  May 27, 2024 • 11:07:57am

re: #283 Hecuba’s daughter

We have the same history — bombing areas remote from here, slaughtering in areas where there were no enemies that posed any threat to our survival.

OTOH: Netanyahu and his administration have no concern at all about killing innocents. Israel does face a real danger that we haven’t in decades, an enemy eager to commit genocide. Too many in Bibi’s government are a mirror image of their foes — willingness and for some an eagerness to kill all Palestinians. Sadly, I have friends — people who are not Trump supporters — who share that view

But does the problem really rest with “Bibi’s government”, or is that “mirror image” reflective of something more widespread in the fabric of the nation they govern??

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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  May 27, 2024 • 11:09:37am
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Dangerman  May 27, 2024 • 11:14:43am

re: #257 BigPapa

‘Happy Memorial Day to all, including Human Scum’

Some dude, rotting out from the inside. Won’t be long.

Meanwhile

President Biden used his Memorial Day speech to honor troops who died fighting for the United States, saying they gave their lives in the hope of a “more perfect union” during remarks at Arlington National Cemetery, Axios reports.

Each of the veterans, he said, was “bound by a common commitment, not to a place, not to a person, not to a president, but to an idea unlike an idea in human history. The idea of the United States of America.”

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Randall Gross  May 27, 2024 • 11:21:12am

Rockestral Music is back: New from Nightwish, "Perfume of the Timeless" Most vids I advise you listen but not watch to truly hear the song but this is one you watch & read please.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHCa...

Randall Gross (@randallgross.bsky.social) 2024-05-27T18:02:05.611Z

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Dangerman  May 27, 2024 • 11:24:02am

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Dangerman  May 27, 2024 • 11:27:21am

re: #207 Dave In Austin

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Dangerman  May 27, 2024 • 11:32:47am

Rando:
Amen. No vet or active duty military members or their families or anyone who cares about them should be voting for the five time draft dodging Russian asset who doesn’t give a damn about anyone in uniform or anyone who’s ever been in uniform

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BigPapa  May 27, 2024 • 11:37:34am

Chump cited ‘Alyson Cooper of CNN’ in his screed. Not sure if he’s just loopy or he purposed misgendered a prominent and well liked gay man as an insult. Both are equally plausible.

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sizzzzlerz  May 27, 2024 • 11:40:16am

re: #279 Hecuba’s daughter

Bill Walton died.

Updated with link: espn.com

OMFG! I remember Walton and his glory days playing ball for the Wizard at UCLA. It always struck me that, up until he died, Bill would talk on the phone with Wooden every week. Only 71. Far too soon for someone like him.

RIP, Bill Walton.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 27, 2024 • 11:55:43am

re: #285 (((Archangel1)))

Motherfather said my son was a loser.

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jeffreyw  May 27, 2024 • 12:48:07pm

re: #287 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That last one just gave me all the feels.

The first three made me angry, that last one was a gut punch.


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