New From the Always Original Julian Lage: “As It Were”

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Julian Lage: Guitar
Jorge Roeder: Bass
Dave King: Drums
Patrick Warren: Keys

As It Were by Julian Lage
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Audio recorded and mixed by Mark Goodell
Production Company: Bucket’s Moving Company
Director/Editor: Alex Chaloff
Cam Op: Ricky Chavez
Cam Op: Satsuki Murashige
Cam Op: Robert Barcelona
Cam Op: Elani Ferri
1st AC: Brandon Gong
Cable Cam Tech: Patrick Roth

Filmed at SFJAZZ on January 20, 2024

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Music video by Julian Lage performing As It Were. © 2024 UMG Recordings, Inc.

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1
Charles Johnson  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:10:23pm

Ohmigawd that Gibson guitar I want it.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:16:22pm

re: #92 PhillyPretzel ✅

I now have the ear worm of “Meet the Flintstones”

Iwas fine, then you said that… Not happy. 😹

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:17:01pm

re: #2 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Same here or should I say hear.

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wrenchwench  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:17:10pm
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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:18:43pm

re: #4 wrenchwench

Photobomb cat.

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wrenchwench  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:19:50pm

re: #5 PhillyPretzel ✅

Photobomb cat.

Adjuster of priorities.

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wrenchwench  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:23:11pm

I don’t have time for this. I have to go to work.

Mastodon

I’ll save it here for later.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:27:21pm

Well, I planted twenty-five new asparagus sets, then put fencing around the asparagus and horseradish, and put more fencing around the new flowerbed around the tree stump.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:33:31pm

re: #7 wrenchwench

Not sure he did the Galilean relativity calculation.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:34:10pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Worried about feral Nebraskans?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:36:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:42:04pm

This article popped up at Reddit’s r/BrandNewSentence from Variety (June 7, 2024)

YouTuber Arrested Over Stunt Involving Fireworks Shot at a Lamborghini From a Helicopter, Faces up to 10 Years in Prison If Convicted

San Fernando Valley resident Suk Min Choi, aka YouTube creator Alex Choi, was arrested on a federal criminal complaint alleging he directed a YouTube video in which two women in a helicopter repeatedly shot fireworks at a Lamborghini sports car last year, federal authorities said.

Choi, 24, was arrested June 5 and charged with one count of “causing the placement of an explosive or incendiary device on an aircraft,” according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office for Central District of California. If convicted, Choi would face a statutory maximum sentence of 10 years in federal prison.

Reps for Choi at his management firm, Underscore Talent, did not respond to a request for comment Friday.

(more at Variety)

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:44:02pm

re: #71 Dangerman

sorry…no

i had enough trouble transitioning to a 5 speed gear box and rubber mounted engine

and dont get me started on electronic ignition and fuel injection

;-)

I’ll take a 1969 XLCH with a Joe Hunt magneto and Mikuni carburator.

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William Lewis  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:52:15pm

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William Lewis  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:52:25pm

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William Lewis  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:52:37pm

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austin_blue  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:53:13pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Ohmigawd that Gibson guitar I want it.

J-35?

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allegro  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:53:31pm

re: #7 wrenchwench

Jeez that’s hilarious! If anyone wants to know what happened from the perspective of a wildlife biologist and bird fan, here’s my hypothesis:

I don’t know exactly where this was but it’s breeding season pretty much everywhere and that makes birds testy. A bird, likely male, wandered near a tree where nesting is happening. Probably minding his own business when he gets dive bombed and takes off like “WTF dude! I was just noshing some seed here.” He flies for the nearest cover which is this guy’s porch that turns out to be like 3 feet deep and the bird is “oh shit!” and puts the reverse on the gears there in time to not go full force splat on the window but to lose his shit on it as he bounces off.

I declare his second theory most likely correct.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:54:10pm

re: #14 William Lewis

Beautiful pics.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 8, 2024 • 4:59:02pm

re: #15 William Lewis

Well done sir. Don’t you love it when the clouds bring that more dramatic sky?

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darthstar  Jun 8, 2024 • 5:16:13pm

Had to do some path trimming before I could take the boys to the river.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 8, 2024 • 5:22:35pm

Walk along part of the lake in North Park (just north of Pittsburgh). It’s a large county park established in the 1920-30s. Lots of catalpa blooms floating in the lake and the tributary creeks that feed into it.

Great Blue Heron along lake
Sparrow noshing on a damselfly
Red-winged Blackbird
Catalpa blooms
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 8, 2024 • 5:36:07pm

(59:57, Leah McGowan’s Politics Girl podcast.)

She weighs in on the fact so-called Nones (atheists, agnostics, don’t cares) are now a larger group than either Roman Catholics or all Evangelicals. (Christians as a whole are still the majority.)

She interviews a former Evangelical (Tim Whittaker) who became concerned about the rising danger of Christian Nationalism during deconstruction of his faith. (He is still a Christian. He is no longer an Evangelical Christian.)

NEW Evangelicals TURN THE TABLES on Trump, Expose Movement | PoliticsGirl

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steve_davis  Jun 8, 2024 • 5:38:00pm

Still working my way through slides. The lack of focus here just haunts me. I know the farm from that road, though 20 years further on. My grandparents lived there and my grandfather and great-uncle (electrical engineer. Went to Drexel at 15) basically rebuilt the house. Everyone should be so lucky to have a summer farm to go to, filled with kind people.

And from up at the fire tower:

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darthstar  Jun 8, 2024 • 5:45:23pm

Friend who lives in Santa Rosa just pinged us out of the blue and asked if we wanted a free Clipper Creek HCS-40 for our new place to charge the car.

There’s 800 bucks I don’t have to spend.

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steve_davis  Jun 8, 2024 • 5:45:51pm

re: #4 wrenchwench

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“Ize gots times for pets now. Pets NOW!”

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darthstar  Jun 8, 2024 • 5:47:11pm

re: #26 steve_davis

“Ize gots times for pets now. Pets NOW!”

Pets be draggin’

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William Lewis  Jun 8, 2024 • 5:49:00pm

re: #20 Rightwingconspirator

Well done sir. Don’t you love it when the clouds bring that more dramatic sky?

Yep, helps when the big cotton balls are out and about 😎

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darthstar  Jun 8, 2024 • 5:49:07pm

re: #27 darthstar

Pets be draggin’

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Listening to Dire Straits radio on Pandora and sipping tequila while we think about dinner. Honestly, after the work I did in the sun a hot dog, another tequila and early bed sound good.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 8, 2024 • 5:49:42pm

re: #22 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Walk along part of the lake in North Park (just north of Pittsburgh). It’s a large county park established in the 1920-30s. Lots of catalpa blooms floating in the lake and the tributary creeks that feed into it.

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My uncle was in the CCC before his WWII enlistment. They built the swimming pool at North Park, possibly other facilities.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:01:38pm

re: #30 Decatur Deb

My uncle was in the CCC before his WWII enlistment. They built the swimming pool at North Park, possibly other facilities.

A lot of stuff there still from that period it looks like. CCC work seems to have a certain style to it. See it in a lot of New York state parks as well. Including Letchworth and Stony Brook. I am currently also processing some photos taken at the latter late last year while field trip scouting with my brother.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:06:28pm

Here we go again. It’s another object lesson in why elections actually do matter, because the Republican Party is fanatically dedicated to installing extremist shithead judges throughout the legal system — for good reason, as this story illustrates.

Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-06-09T00:45:08.000Z

Before very long, people like this hellish couple will be routinely murdering protesters, because they can. This is where we’re headed.

Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-06-09T01:04:14.000Z

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Decatur Deb  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:07:20pm

re: #31 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Yes—they were fond of locally-quarried stone in Alabama. There is a tiny CCC museum at Monte Sano State Park.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:12:06pm

Here:

This site has other pictures of the distinctive CCC style.

alapark.com

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sagehen  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:12:51pm

re: #21 darthstar

Had to do some path trimming before I could take the boys to the river.

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have the boys expressed any opinion as to river v ocean?

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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:16:40pm
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jeffreyw  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:19:49pm
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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:21:21pm

re: #17 austin_blue

J-35?

The easy tone & voice.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:27:50pm

Wyoming state highway 22 between Jackson, Wyo. and Victor, ID has been closed by a massive landslide. The road goes over Teton Pass.

Landslide destroys section of vital highway over Teton Pass (eight hours ago, WyoFile, with photographs)

State agencies, local governments and Jackson Hole businesses are scrambling to resolve a cascade of problems after a landslide carried away a 30-yard section of Wyoming Highway 22 over Teton Pass, closing the vital commuter and commerce route for the foreseeable future.

“Everybody is mobilizing,” Teton County Commission Chairman Luther Propst said Saturday. “The county’s looking at camping options at the fairgrounds” for Idaho commuters who work in Jackson Hole. The Jackson Hole Mountain Resort also is examining camping options and St. John’s Health “will certainly have to scramble,” he said.
The highway connecting the Jackson area to Victor, Idaho, is closed following a landslide. (Wyoming Highway Patrol drone)

“The buzz is it will be closed for several weeks or months,” Propst said. Transportation officials were meeting with personnel from Gov. Mark Gordon’s office Saturday morning to coordinate “a multi-agency response to this situation,” Wyoming Department of Transportation spokesperson Stephanie Harsha said in an email.

(more)

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allegro  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:29:26pm

re: #34 Decatur Deb

That fabulous ad had me til near the end when it showed the happiness next to the campfire in the dark. LOLno. At least not during camping season.

I had family who had a summer place in Ninilchik on the Kenai Peninsula. My husband and I went up there every other summer so he could fish (my cousin had a captain’s license and fishing boat) and I could go adventuring. Perfect separate vacations together.

Before our first trip, as my aunt kept selling it, every night was a campfire, grilled fish, Bailey’s and coffee. I had such delightful images. What I didn’t anticipate was that it never got dark. Not even dusk until 2 or 3am. It. Just. Isn’t. The. Same. And it’s so weird for most of us. Disorienting. Exhausting even.

But if you can get to Alaska, go there. It is beyond description. Every view breathtaking. Every moment, pure magic.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:35:26pm

Radley Balko @radleybalko…. • 31m
Morbid curiosity got the best of me, and I read this.
The argument is literally that Dolly Parton is a fake, destructive Christian because despite a lifetime of kindness, decency, philanthropy, and spreading joy around the world, she won’t explicitly condemn gay people for their wickedness.

The Federalist @FDRLST
There’s Nothing Loving About Dolly Parton’s
False Gospel
Dolly Parton’s False Gospel Isn’t Loving.
It’s Destructive.

Andy Craig @andycraig.b… •25m
• Reply to Radley Balko That’s a pretty common rhetorical rationalization for such things. It’s the same logic as why it was doing heretics a favor to burn them at the stake. You can be endlessly cruel when the ostensible motive is to save someone’s immortal soul from eternal suffering.

Radley Balko @radleybal… • 13m
But also, Trump was sent by god to America a Christian nation precisely because he’s a selfish, proud, lustful glutton, and that’s how god intended real men to be.

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sagehen  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:36:12pm

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wyoming state highway 22 between Jackson, Wyo. and Victor, ID has been closed by a massive landslide. The road goes over Teton Pass.

Landslide destroys section of vital highway over Teton Pass (eight hours ago, WyoFile, with photographs)

(more)

“”This demonstrates the risk of having so many of our local workforce commute over a geological unstable pass,” Propst said. “This certainly provides a very clear example of why we need a better balance between the number of jobs and the number of houses needed by people who do those jobs.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:37:32pm

re: #33 Decatur Deb

Yes—they were fond of locally-quarried stone in Alabama. There is a tiny CCC museum at Monte Sano State Park.

The Veterans Conservation Corps is why we have a fifty-five foot stone lighthouse on landlocked Lake Minatare here.

Lake Minatare Lighthouse (Wikipedia, with a photograph of the lighthouse)

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darthstar  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:38:27pm

re: #35 sagehen

have the boys expressed any opinion as to river v ocean?

They absolutely love the river…and they absolutely love the ocean. Around the one hour and 45 minute mark in the two hour drive to either place they perk up as if to say, “We’re going HERE!??!!!”

River’s more relaxing for them as we do less career work stuff…they stayed close for about an hour and a half while I cut blackberry vines, other vines, horsetail grass, and fennel that was blocking the path. Good helpers they are…didn’t go to the water until I told them it was time.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:40:12pm

re: #40 allegro

Daughter2 and Grandson1 are in Seattle right now, on the way to Vancouver by train, then a ship up the Alaska coast. Sounds like she bought into a locked itinerary, though. When we talk to her, we’ll mention Kenai.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:40:33pm

re: #29 darthstar

Listening to Dire Straits radio on Pandora and sipping tequila while we think about dinner. Honestly, after the work I did in the sun a hot dog, another tequila and early bed sound good.

You’re supposed to be drinking Victory Gin.

This is International Gin Day, as well as the publication date of Nineteen Eighty-Four.

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teleskiguy  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:48:57pm

The biggest wrench just got thrown into the Jackson Hole, WY economy.

Mastodon

I have friends in Driggs. The mood in Teton Valley, ID is extra sour tonight.

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jaunte  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:51:38pm

Sunset moon on the dog walk tonight.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 8, 2024 • 6:59:53pm

re: #37 jeffreyw

pizza as onlt ‘Merikans could do.

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Jay C  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:01:06pm

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

re: #47 teleskiguy

JFC!
From the pics of that landslide, it looks like that entire section of road was on some kind of built-up bank - most of which is now at the bottom of the canyon - and looks (to the untrained eye, anyway) like there is nothing but loose dirt underneath. IANAE, but it looks like that bank is going to need EXTENSIVE earthmoving to get built back up - IF they even can. Doesn’t even look like there’s space for a detour…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:01:19pm

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This is what you don’t Lok at the ‘falling rocks’ sign and say “not me”.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:03:06pm

re: #50 Jay C

A modest bridge would work, if they can anchor it.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:13:14pm

re: #52 Decatur Deb

A modest bridge would work, if they can anchor it.

Being a state road and Wyoming a state without a large population and it looks like a pretty limited method set for collecting taxes I will be curious where they get the funding for replacing it. And doing anything quick will be expensive since the good/fast/cheap rule is in play.

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jaunte  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:15:24pm

re: #53 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

They might consider getting the wealthy people whose workforce is now stuck on the other side to fund a reconstruction.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:15:47pm

re: #53 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Being a state road and Wyoming a state without a large population and it looks like a pretty limited method set for collecting taxes I will be curious where they get the funding for replacing it. And doing anything quick will be expensive since the good/fast/cheap rule is in play.

They can name it the Buttigieg Bridge.

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William Lewis  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:16:11pm

re: #52 Decatur Deb

A modest bridge would work, if they can anchor it.

Looks like a good summer national guard 2 week project for an engineer battalion to me 😉

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Cheechako  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:16:24pm

re: #50 Jay C

JFC!
From the pics of that landslide, it looks like that entire section of road was on some kind of built-up bank - most of which is now at the bottom of the canyon - and looks (to the untrained eye, anyway) like there is nothing but loose dirt underneath. IANAE, but it looks like that bank is going to need EXTENSIVE earthmoving to get built back up - IF they even can. Doesn’t even look like there’s space for a detour…

Same thing happened on the 50 mile long road into Denali NP. The National Park Service is building a major bridge as a fix. It will take several years as construction season is very short.

My Son drives the alternate route into Jackson every day. Now his commute will be much longer due to the additional traffic.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:16:40pm

re: #30 Decatur Deb

My uncle was in the CCC before his WWII enlistment. They built the swimming pool at North Park, possibly other facilities.

Dad went into the CCC after he graduated from high school in 1938. They sent him to work in a camp that was in Virginia’s Shenandoah National Park. He was part of a work crew on the Skyline Drive.

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sagehen  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:16:47pm

re: #53 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Being a state road and Wyoming a state without a large population and it looks like a pretty limited method set for collecting taxes I will be curious where they get the funding for replacing it. .

Paging Pete Buttigieg on the white courtesy phone…

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Jay C  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:17:41pm

re: #52 Decatur Deb

A modest bridge would work, if they can anchor it.

Anchor it? Where?
Again, IANAE, but it looks like that whole ridge* is basically just dirt: ISTM finding some place to fix a stable abutment for a road bridge is going to preclude its being “modest”.

*which I now realize I have driven over, once upon a time.

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allegro  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:18:10pm

re: #45 Decatur Deb

One thing I never did was a cruise in Alaska. I mostly saw it from the land side except for the small boat tours I took from the Homer Spit which were magical. Whales, puffins, otters, multiple species of gulls, ducks… always guided by people who had stories to tell, adventurous spirits.

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retired cynic  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:19:55pm

re: #34 Decatur Deb

Here:

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This site has other pictures of the distinctive CCC style.

alapark.com

My favorite: Pere Marquette State Park, in Illinois.

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calochortus  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:20:20pm

re: #50 Jay C

JFC!
From the pics of that landslide, it looks like that entire section of road was on some kind of built-up bank - most of which is now at the bottom of the canyon - and looks (to the untrained eye, anyway) like there is nothing but loose dirt underneath. IANAE, but it looks like that bank is going to need EXTENSIVE earthmoving to get built back up - IF they even can. Doesn’t even look like there’s space for a detour…

They should talk to the CalTrans folks who are constantly shoring up CA 1 on the Big Sur coast where you really can’t see how they managed to get a road there in the first place.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:20:45pm

re: #58 Joe Bacon ✅

Dad went into the CCC after he graduated from high school in 1938. They sent him to work in a camp that was in Virginia’s Shenandoah National Park. He was part of a work crew on the Skyline Drive.

Good way to spend the Depression.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:24:01pm

re: #62 retired cynic

My favorite: Pere Marquette State Park, in Illinois.

Monte Sano, up near Huntsville, is the nearest nice park to us. There are some beautiful ones in E Kentucky. I did the archaeology part of the Environmental Impact Statements for a couple of them.

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retired cynic  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:28:26pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

The biggest wrench just got thrown into the Jackson Hole, WY economy.

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I have friends in Driggs. The mood in Teton Valley, ID is extra sour tonight.

How on earth do you fill a hole like that, and make it stable enough to cars and trucks??

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:30:57pm

re: #64 Decatur Deb

Good way to spend the Depression.

I remember Dad telling me the rules of the CCC. Kids were allowed to keep $5 of their pay but the rest had to be sent to their parents every month. And there were times when Grandma & Grandpa REALLY needed the $$$ Dad sent them.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:31:20pm

re: #66 retired cynic

How on earth do you fill a hole like that, and make it stable enough to cars and trucks??

Enough C4 and ammonium nitrate could make it a lot flatter and wider. Probably make a lot of people unhappy, though.

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piratedan  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:32:47pm

re: #66 retired cynic

there are ways to do it, but like other solutions, they are costly, (think concrete pillars and piers) or a long term solution would be to tunnel.

Granted the cheapest solution would be to build some low and modest income housing but that would involve that the rich folks would have to rub shoulders and lose their exclusivity and admit that they actually need those services.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:33:19pm

re: #68 Decatur Deb

Enough C4 and ammonium nitrate could make it a lot flatter and wider. Probably make a lot of people unhappy, though.

And you’d still need to do a bunch of additional work to stabilize it after the blasting. In addition to trucking in a bunch of fill and building in a decent drainage plan.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:33:55pm

re: #68 Decatur Deb

Why need an acceleratant for C4?

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Dangerman  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:34:25pm

re: #66 retired cynic

How on earth do you fill a hole like that, and make it stable enough to cars and trucks??

“Skyhooks”

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Decatur Deb  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:35:50pm

re: #71 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Why need an acceleratant for C4?

Because C4 is the solution to most problems. (Most earthtossing is really ANFO.)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:36:29pm

re: #69 piratedan

there are ways to do it, but like other solutions, they are costly, (think concrete pillars and piers) or a long term solution would be to tunnel.

Granted the cheapest solution would be to build some low and modest income housing but that would involve that the rich folks would have to rub shoulders and lose their exclusivity and admit that they actually need those services.

The article mentioned them opening up local camp grounds. Though I wonder how long the local workers would put up with that without some additional compensation or a very good expectation that the period they’d need to put with such accommodations would be limited. Otherwise, it appears the alternate route will add at least two hours of commuting time per day to their schedules.

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Dangerman  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:39:26pm

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:40:24pm

re: #73 Decatur Deb

Because C4 is the solution to most problems. (Most earthtossing is really ANFO.)

Yeah, but a plastic didn’t need an accelerant?

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Decatur Deb  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:41:49pm

re: #76 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Yeah, but a plastic didn’t need an accelerant?

No, the ANFO does the work. C4 is just for the Engineers’ ritual. (Playing off WLewis’ suggestion of using a National Guard Combat Engineer unit.)

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Cheechako  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:47:28pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:48:00pm

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austin_blue  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:49:10pm

re: #66 retired cynic

How on earth do you fill a hole like that, and make it stable enough to cars and trucks??

I don’t think you can. I think that whole ridge is unusable. It’s just Not There Anymore.

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jaunte  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:50:02pm

re: #78 Cheechako

I’m not an engineer, but that seems like a really steep pile of dirt to build a road on.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:52:12pm

re: #77 Decatur Deb

So, you were being pedantic/informational and leading me down an incorrect path? ANFO is what you need for this type of work. Things that go boom, go boom differently.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:52:13pm

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austin_blue  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:54:40pm

re: #83 Patricia Kayden

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Dutch Schultz was one of the Good Guys.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:55:09pm

re: #53 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Being a state road and Wyoming a state without a large population and it looks like a pretty limited method set for collecting taxes I will be curious where they get the funding for replacing it. And doing anything quick will be expensive since the good/fast/cheap rule is in play.

They could ask for a disaster declaration from the federal government (similar to the bridge disaster in Philadelphia).

Governor Mark Gordon (R) has already issued a state disaster declaration, which paves the way to ask for Federal Highway Administration and FEMA to help with the disaster.

Jackson Hole, Wyo. News & Guide, three hours ago

GOVERNMENT RESPONSE TO TETON PASS FAILURE: Governor declares emergency; WYDOT marshaling resources for repair; school district will consider plan; hospital is identifying needs

UPDATE, 4:45 p.m.: Gov. Mark Gordon issued an executive order Saturday afternoon declaring an emergency response to the “catastrophic failure of Wyoming Highway 22, Teton Pass.”

The declaration will help the state access additional resources from the Federal Highway Administration to begin the substantial repairs required, according to a statement from the governor’s office.

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Cheechako  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:55:55pm

Talked to my Son about this. Fortunately , WY DOT knew the road was failing. Several days before, there was a motorcycle accident at this location caused by large ruts in the road. While investigating the accident they could hear sounds of the earth fill failing and closed the road.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:56:39pm

re: #82 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

So, you were being pedantic/informational and leading me down an incorrect path? ANFO is what you need for this type of work. Things that go boom, go boom differently.

Yeah—It’s a trope. The Engineer slogan, t-shirts, etc specify C4.

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William Lewis  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:57:34pm

re: #52 Decatur Deb

Enough C4 and ammonium nitrate could make it a lot flatter and wider. Probably make a lot of people unhappy, though.

Or a plowshare nuke 😉

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sagehen  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:57:46pm

re: #74 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The article mentioned them opening up local camp grounds. Though I wonder how long the local workers would put up with that without some additional compensation or a very good expectation that the period they’d need to put with such accommodations would be limited. Otherwise, it appears the alternate route will add at least two hours of commuting time per day to their schedules.

Camping has a, shall we say, seasonal limitation.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 8, 2024 • 7:58:35pm

re: #88 William Lewis

Looks like a good summer national guard 2 week project for an engineer battalion to me 😉

Or a plowshare nuke 😉

Now you’re being nostalgic.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:00:40pm

re: #61 allegro

One thing I never did was a cruise in Alaska. I mostly saw it from the land side except for the small boat tours I took from the Homer Spit which were magical. Whales, puffins, otters, multiple species of gulls, ducks… always guided by people who had stories to tell, adventurous spirits.

The only Alaska cruise we made was the car ferry from Skagway, Alaska to Prince Rupert, British Columbia through the Inside Passage. The is quite the beautiful trip. (Strongly recommend a first-class cabin so you have a place to sleep.)

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Decatur Deb  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:03:37pm

One of many such

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:10:15pm

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:12:57pm

re: #66 retired cynic

How on earth do you fill a hole like that, and make it stable enough to cars and trucks??

Build some big-ass walls the length of the gap on either side. Tie the ends of the walls into whatever structure there is in the existing cliff faces. Add some supports to the wall exterior, and beams connecting the walls on the interior and then fill the space between with rocks and dirt. Compact everything and then add the pavement. There also would need to be some drainage pipes built into the interior to give any water a place to exit.

Alternatively, a bridge to span the gap could be built if places on each side can be found where pylons to support the bridge can be sunk into bedrock. If the rock is incompetent (broken up), then that probably won’t work.

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Dangerman  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:13:34pm

re: #73 Decatur Deb

Because C4 is the solution to most problems. (Most earthtossing is really ANFO.)

Not duct tape and bailing wire?

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:14:08pm

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:14:46pm

re: #7 wrenchwench

That was funny.

Even if there was math.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:15:39pm

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Dangerman  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:17:53pm

re: #85 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They could ask for a disaster declaration from the federal government (similar to the bridge disaster in Philadelphia).

Governor Mark Gordon (R) has already issued a state disaster declaration, which paves the way to ask for Federal Highway Administration and FEMA to help with the disaster.

Jackson Hole, Wyo. News & Guide, three hours ago

GOVERNMENT RESPONSE TO TETON PASS FAILURE: Governor declares emergency; WYDOT marshaling resources for repair; school district will consider plan; hospital is identifying needs

Wyoming ask for federal help?
Say it ain’t so

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retired cynic  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:18:55pm

re: #95 Dangerman

Not duct tape and bailing wire?

That’s the farmer’s t-shirt.

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Cheechako  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:20:02pm

If you really want to put a skid mark in your pants, drive this highway in the winter in a snowstorm with 3-4 inches of snow on the road. This road is steep…7 and 8% grades!

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darthstar  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:21:25pm

Evening varmints

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darthstar  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:22:01pm

re: #102 darthstar

Evening varmints

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Jay C  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:23:03pm

re: #102 darthstar

Evening varmints

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Giant jackalopes, right???

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darthstar  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:25:37pm

re: #104 Jay C

Giant jackalopes, right???

They’re pretty when they’re in felt.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:27:03pm

re: #53 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Being a state road and Wyoming a state without a large population and it looks like a pretty limited method set for collecting taxes I will be curious where they get the funding for replacing it. And doing anything quick will be expensive since the good/fast/cheap rule is in play.

Sounds like the Wyoming US Senators & Representatives are going to owe some political favors to those who assist in obtaining federal aid in reconstruction of that state road.

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Targetpractice  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:33:36pm

re: #36 The GOP is a Terrorist Organization

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Few things as hilarious as “manly, red-blooded meat eaters” picking and choosing which cute and fuzzy critters they give a shit about. You know, the sort of folks who think you can “cure” a vegan/vegetarian with a BLT or scream at an animal right’s activist that they’re never going to give up hamburgers.

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austin_blue  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:43:05pm

re: #105 darthstar

They’re pretty when they’re in felt.

Felt? Are those antlers or trilby’s?

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darthstar  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:51:34pm

re: #108 austin_blue

Felt? Are those antlers or trilby’s?

Felt…velvet… it’s just a pretty time to see them. And yes, I did shoot deer in June when I was young…my older brother wanted to surprise mom with some venison so we dropped a forked horn in the back yard and dressed it and hung it in the shop for two days before bringing it into the house and butchering it.

We still got in trouble.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:55:00pm

re: #99 Dangerman

Wyoming ask for federal help?
Say it ain’t so

Us independent-minded people ask for help all the time.

Right now my area is under a state/federal disaster declaration for the blizzard in April.

In 2019 an irrigation canal tunnel 102-years old collapse cutting off irrigation to 100,000 acres of crops in Wyoming and Nebraska.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 8, 2024 • 8:57:17pm

re: #107 Targetpractice

Few things as hilarious as “manly, red-blooded meat eaters” picking and choosing which cute and fuzzy critters they give a shit about. You know, the sort of folks who think you can “cure” a vegan/vegetarian with a BLT or scream at an animal right’s activist that they’re never going to give up hamburgers.

Works the other way too. The sort of folks who think they can “cure” a meat eater with a tasteless block of tofu or scream “murderer” in a restaurant.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 8, 2024 • 9:03:14pm

re: #106 BeenHereAwhile

Sounds like the Wyoming US Senators & Representatives are going to owe some political favors to those who assist in obtaining federal aid in reconstruction of that state road.

Representative Hageman is a bona-fide crazy person. She’s the one who ousted Liz Cheney in the Wyoming Primary last time round running on a campaign of a stolen election and witch-hunt trials of Donald Trump.

I suggest the Wyoming Delegation send her to talk to President Biden. That should go well.

On the other hand, Teton County is a deep-blue county and went for President Biden in 2020, so maybe send the county commissioners instead. Biden beat Trump by 37.5 points. Only one other county went for Biden (Albany, 2.75 points, county seat Laramie).

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Targetpractice  Jun 8, 2024 • 9:10:33pm

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Works the other way too. The sort of folks who think they can “cure” a meat eater with a tasteless block of tofu or scream “murderer” in a restaurant.

Oh hell, I’m not making excuses for extremists on either side of the divide, just rolling my eyes that we’re supposed to get worked up over which particular set of lab animals got abused. Perhaps if Dr. Fauci had blasted these puppies with a shotgun, the MAGAts would be more forgiving.

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William Lewis  Jun 8, 2024 • 9:27:03pm

re: #92 Decatur Deb

One of many such

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austin_blue  Jun 8, 2024 • 9:37:26pm

re: #114 William Lewis

A sledge hammer and a crowbar are a tanker’s best friends 😎

And earplugs, especially if you inside the tank when the sledgehammer is being applied.

Given modern drone technology, I can’t imagine what tankers must be going through these days. It’s brutal days for armored forces.

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austin_blue  Jun 8, 2024 • 9:45:02pm

Night all, sleep well, sweet dreams.

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TedStriker  Jun 8, 2024 • 10:31:25pm

re: #68 Decatur Deb

Enough C4 and ammonium nitrate could make it a lot flatter and wider. Probably make a lot of people unhappy, though.

re: #73 Decatur Deb

Because C4 is the solution to most problems. (Most earthtossing is really ANFO.)

Mythbusters’ Jamie Hyneman: “When in doubt, C4.”

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TedStriker  Jun 8, 2024 • 10:34:08pm

re: #78 Cheechako

Scroll down for better views:

UPDATED: ‘Catastrophic’ failure on Teton Pass; WYDOT to rebuild section; no timeline available

That’s a big fucking hole…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 8, 2024 • 10:34:55pm

re: #119 TedStriker

That’s a big fucking hole…

A little spackle should fix it right up.

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Targetpractice  Jun 8, 2024 • 10:35:48pm

re: #119 TedStriker

That’s a big fucking hole…

It’ll buff out.

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TedStriker  Jun 8, 2024 • 10:37:10pm

re: #121 Targetpractice

It’ll buff out.

A little Bondo and it’ll be good as new.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 8, 2024 • 10:38:43pm

Sunday Connections:

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Certainly was clueless about blue category.. Glad for the default…

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 8, 2024 • 11:06:09pm

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Representative Hageman is a bona-fide crazy person. She’s the one who ousted Liz Cheney in the Wyoming Primary last time round running on a campaign of a stolen election and witch-hunt trials of Donald Trump.

I suggest the Wyoming Delegation send her to talk to President Biden. That should go well.

Just waiting for that whacko to blame the road collapse on Biden.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 8, 2024 • 11:15:45pm

Google booted a PragerU “documentary” video yesterday from its store titled “Dear Infidels: A Warning to America” for hate speech. (The “documentary’s” plug reads [no link: you can go to PragerU yourself if you really want to see the video]):

Radical Islam poses a significant threat to our freedom. The rise of anti-American rhetoric and violence in cities and universities is a direct result of the indoctrination led by those perpetrating a religious war against the West. PragerU’s short documentary features first-hand accounts from those who escaped Islamic rule and have come to warn America.

“Anti-american rhetoric and violence in cities and universities.” Whatever you think about the protests at universities and the decided lack of anti-American violence in cities, think about instead the massive amount of Lying for Jesus (tm) Christians like Prager have to do to support their shrinking religious base. Mr. Prager accused Google of “Soviet-like” tactics.

The keening whinge of “Ceeeensssssorrrrship!!!£”£$eleventy-one221!!!two!!&!wokewokewoke!” from every wingnut site from the Post-Millennial to the Washington Times & from every Christian influencer YouTube and Instagram account arose across the wingnut portion of the Internet.

Christian trad-wife baby-cannon influencers on Instagram started a petition drive against Google’s decision citing censorship, the I Amendment, and religious discrimination. Every Christian or conservative site reporting on this puts “hate speech” in scare quotes.

Eighteen hours later, Google caved. They claimed it was booted “in error” and does not violate their hate-speech policies.

The Christian fascist propaganda is back in the Google Play store.

Their concern was they can’t use the video in their homeschooling lessons for children to teach them how to hate (it was fundie baby-cannon influencer on Instagram Bethany Rose [handle wavesandlilacs] who first noticed it missing when she wanted to use it as educational material for her children in homeschooling).

Mr. Prager was invited back to Twitter by Elon Musk after being booted in 2017 for hate speech against Muslims and atheists.

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Orange Impostor  Jun 8, 2024 • 11:33:07pm

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wyoming state highway 22 between Jackson, Wyo. and Victor, ID has been closed by a massive landslide. The road goes over Teton Pass.

Landslide destroys section of vital highway over Teton Pass (eight hours ago, WyoFile, with photographs)

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I drove on that very road just over a month ago when I spent a few days in Wyoming visiting Grand Teton and Yellowstone Parks - been a habit of mine the past few years since I’ve been able to budget in some vacation travel to cross a few spots off of my bucket list…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 8, 2024 • 11:49:34pm

re: #126 Orange Impostor

I drove on that very road just over a month ago when I spent a few days in Wyoming visiting Grand Teton and Yellowstone Parks - been a habit of mine the past few years since I’ve been able to budget in some vacation travel to cross a few spots off of my bucket list…

If I need to travel to Victor, Idaho, I’m cut off (that would be the shortest route from the Nebraska Panhandle).

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No Malarkey!  Jun 8, 2024 • 11:50:16pm

Tragedy strikes the Maravich family as Josh Maravich died at age 42. His father, “Pistol” Pete Maravich, whose collegiate scoring record was broken this last season by Caitlin Clark, died of a heart condition at age 40. No cause of death for Josh Maravich was released at this time.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 8, 2024 • 11:57:21pm

re: #128 No Malarkey!

Tragedy strikes the Maravich family as Josh Maravich died at age 42. His father, “Pistol” Pete Maravich, whose collegiate scoring record was broken this last season by Caitlin Clark, died of a heart condition at age 40. No cause of death for Josh Maravich was released at this time.

Antivaxxers weigh in, in 3 …

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silverdolphin  Jun 9, 2024 • 12:21:13am

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Antivaxxers weigh in, in 3 …

Wonder if he had the same congential heart defect Pistol Pete did - the coronary arteries were not all in the places they should be?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 12:25:12am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 9, 2024 • 12:28:37am
Turkey will impose a 40% additional tariff on imports of vehicles from China to halt a possible deterioration of its current account balance and protect domestic automakers, the trade ministry said on Saturday.

China is facing increasing trade pressures worldwide over its growing exports of electric vehicles, which many countries claim are being heavily subsidized by Beijing to support its sputtering economy. The European Commission is expected to announce next week whether to impose provisional extra tariffs.

The additional Turkish tariff will be set at a minimum of $7,000 per vehicle, with effect from July 7, a presidential decision published in the country’s Official Gazette showed.
“An additional tariff will be imposed on import of conventional and hybrid passenger vehicles from China in order to increase and protect the decreasing share of domestic production,” trade ministry said.

reuters.com

China is trying to export its way out of its current economic woes - by product dumping everywhere. They need to focus more on developing their own domestic consumption rather than dumping their overproduction on the US and the EU.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 12:47:03am

Pertussis is a cyclical disease, in that it peaks about every five years. Antivaxxer nonsense in the United Kingdom has made this year especially bad.

The UK Health Security Agency has released figures for Jan-Apr 2024 (England only).

4,793 cases were confirmed. Of those, a bit over half were in people OVER fifteen. 26.4% more were in children 10-14.

181 cases appeared in children under 3 months (who cannot be vaccinate) from Jan-Apr 2024. In the same period in 2022 there were 2. In 2023 there were 48. The previous peak in 2019 for the same period were 83.

So far eight infants have died Jan-Apr 2024.

Confirmed cases of pertussis in England by month, to end April 2024 (UK Health Security Agency, June 6, 2024)

In the United States, the CDC notes:

During the 1980s, pertussis reports began increasing gradually, leading to a peak in 2012 with 48,277 reported cases. Since then, reported cases remained elevated until the start of the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020.

Several factors have likely contributed to the increase in reported cases, including

Improved recognition of pertussis by healthcare providers
Greater access to and use of laboratory diagnostics
Increased surveillance and reporting to public health departments
Waning immunity from acellular pertussis vaccines

They left out “anti-vaxxers refusing the vaccine for their children.”

Whooping Cough and Trends (CDC, April 2, 2024)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 12:49:24am

re: #132 Dr Lizardo

reuters.com

China is trying to export its way out of its current economic woes - by product dumping everywhere. They need to focus more on developing their own domestic consumption rather than dumping their overproduction on the US and the EU.

Competing with the USA and EU’s firms is fine. Subsidising their own firms to undercut everyone else is the problem.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 12:54:16am

WDIO-TV (Duluth)

Atheists would like Christians to leave their churches. We don’t want them to kill themselves and others.

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — The Republican-controlled Wisconsin Senate voted Tuesday to approve an amendment to the state constitution that would prohibit government agencies from ordering churches to shut down during a state of emergency.

The amendment comes in reaction to a stay-at-home order Democratic Gov. Tony Evers issued in 2020 to slow the spread of the COVID-19 virus. The then-conservative-leaning state Supreme Court struck down Evers’ order, but Republicans introduced the constitutional amendment to ensure similar orders cannot be issued in the future.

Amendments to the Wisconsin Constitution must be passed by two consecutive sessions of the Legislature and then ratified by voters in a statewide election. Tuesday’s 21-10 vote along party lines was the first time the Senate has approved the amendment.

Under the proposed amendment, state or local agencies could not force places of worship to close or limit the size of their gatherings during a national, state or local emergency, including public health emergencies.

Evers vetoed a similar bill from Republicans in 2021, but the governor cannot veto a constitutional amendment.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 1:00:37am

Wingnut fringe party leader in the United Kingdom weighs in on a true concern of our times.

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silverdolphin  Jun 9, 2024 • 1:06:28am

Common low-calorie sweetener linked to heart attack and stroke, study finds

Xylitol looks like it might impact the clotting of platelets and those taking the highest doses of the sweetener appear to have many more heart problems than the average person.

Apparently there is a receptor on platelets that xylitol binds to, although we do not yet know what it does.

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silverdolphin  Jun 9, 2024 • 1:18:32am

YouTuber charged in stunt video showing fireworks launched at Lamborghini from flying helicopter

He could go to jail for 10 years because of this stunt. The Feds do not like it at all when any kind of incendiary device is taken on an aircraft for any reason without prior approval. And without any first responders on site in case something went wrong. The pilot of the helicopter, who turned off the helicoptor’s transponder, has lot his license. And may lose a lot more .

Wayback Machine has the video.

The techbro mantra of “it is better to ask forgiveness than permission” meets the real world with a felony indictment.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 1:19:13am

re: #137 silverdolphin

Common low-calorie sweetener linked to heart attack and stroke, study finds

Xylitol looks like it might impact the clotting of platelets and those taking the highest doses of the sweetener appear to have many more heart problems than the average person.

Apparently there is a receptor on platelets that xylitol binds to, although we do not yet know what it does.

Xylitol is a sugar alcohol. It was similarly implicated in problems associated with stevia (where it is used as a bulking agent).

The original study is published in The European Heart Journal, which Oxford publishes on behalf of the European Society of Cardiology.

Xylitol is prothrombotic and associated with cardiovascular risk (June 6, 2024)

The P-value of the study is very low (P<0.01).

Abstract
Background and Aims

The pathways and metabolites that contribute to residual cardiovascular disease risks are unclear. Low-calorie sweeteners are widely used sugar substitutes in processed foods with presumed health benefits. Many low-calorie sweeteners are sugar alcohols that also are produced endogenously, albeit at levels over 1000-fold lower than observed following consumption as a sugar substitute.

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I can get the complete study from the Nebraska Library Association as a state resident, but I doubt I am sufficiently educated to interpret the results. (Nice of CNN not to name the study.)

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silverdolphin  Jun 9, 2024 • 1:34:16am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Xylitol is a sugar alcohol. It was similarly implicated in problems associated with stevia (where it is used as a bulking agent).

The original study is published in The European Heart Journal, which Oxford publishes on behalf of the European Society of Cardiology.

Xylitol is prothrombotic and associated with cardiovascular risk (June 6, 2024)

The P-value of the study is very low (P<0.01).

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I can get the complete study from the Nebraska Library Association as a state resident, but I doubt I am sufficiently educated to interpret the results. (Nice of CNN not to name the study.)

Here is a nice visual of their work. It is not a definitive study but it shows that people with the highest levels of xylitol have a greater chance of major adverse cardiovascular events (MACE). And it is dose dependent. (p=0.001)

Then they show that xylitol has direct effects on platelets. They then show that drinking xylitol-laced drinks can increase levels over 1000-fold form baseline.

Certainly equires more research as they say but they do have a coherent model. They now need the data to falsify it or strengthen it.

I have had a couple of Afib episodes and am on Eliquis to prevent clotting. For me, the model is storng enough that I will stay away from xylitol until we get more information.

Effects of Xylitol
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 1:35:30am

In wingnuttia and across the Christian press yesterday and today, they are alleging a Texas physician was indicted by the Department of Justice for preforming secret gender surgery on minors in a Texas hospital.

Allegedly a guy blew the whistle to Christopher Rufo, because that’s who you’d report a suspected local crime to instead of the police.

Mr. Rufo has this all over his own Website, as does Christian Post, National Review, City-Journal, Daily Mail, and others.

A quick search does not yield to me any such case at the Department of Justice or a normal news outlet.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 1:44:29am

Reddit’s r/InsanePeopleFacebook

I’ll be taking my ivermectin (for the bird flu) (three days ago with a screen capture of the conversation)

It’s really hard to think, “Well go with God then. We won’t miss you.” These morans want to spread disease as far and wide as possible.

Scratch that. They don’t think disease is real, or isn’t serious, so they can’t spread it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 1:47:16am

re: #140 silverdolphin

Here is a nice visual of their work. It is not a definitive study but it shows that people with the highest levels of xylitol have a greater chance of major adverse cardiovascular events (MACE). And it is dose dependent. (p=0.001)

Then they show that xylitol has direct effects on platelets. They then show that drinking xylitol-laced drinks can increase levels over 1000-fold form baseline.

Certainly equires more research as they say but they do have a coherent model. They now need the data to falsify it or strengthen it.

I have had a couple of Afib episodes and am on Eliquis to prevent clotting. For me, the model is storng enough that I will stay away from xylitol until we get more information.

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Thanks.

I wonder if regular alcohols (rum) counteract the effect of sugar alcohols? Maybe they should study that to get rid of confounding factors. I’ll volunteer for the rum control /s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 2:02:41am

In extremely local news:

After I planted all the asparagus sets, I went out to the alley to put yard waste in the appropriate Dumpster.

The alley is full of “811” flags and spray-painted along the gas lines.

I’m guessing the gas line operator is going to be doing work and sometime during this I’ll lose my furnace and oven.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 2:26:17am

‘Bama’s tax dollars at work: The state Attorney General Steve Marshall (R) is intervening in a New York case where an Amish family is arguing against a charge three Amish schools were not maintaining vaccination records for students.

The Amish family in the fight claims it is unfair for the state to offer medical exemptions but not religious ones. New York repealed religious exemptions for vaccines after a measles outbreak.

In March, a US District Court judge ruled in favour of New York. Now the case is on appeal in the Second Circuit Court of Appeals. Nineteen other state Attorneys General have joined the case to argue for the New York Amish family.

Alabama Brief, thirty-six pages of religious bullshyte in a court brief, PDF)

AG Marshall lies on his official government Website:

“New York has so little regard for religion that it will seek out, harass, and threaten Amish communities that want only to live out their faith amongst themselves,” said Attorney General Marshall. “Parents should not be forced to choose between their children’s schooling and their fundamental rights. Unfortunately, we’re seeing a growing trend of hostility toward religious liberty. I was shocked to learn that members of the New York legislature had called such religious beliefs ‘fake’ and ‘garbage.’ We need to resist this hostility before it infects the federal courts too,” he added.

As Old Order Amish are increasingly sidelined in traditional areas of Pennsylvania and the Great Lakes, more are moving here to the Nebraska Sandhills due to our isolation (just the way they like it). There is a Website which tracks new Amish communities.

Amish Start Community In Middle Of Nowhere (Amish America, December 5, 2023)

Cherry County is to my north-east on the map shown in the article, two counties away.

And I write “Middle of Nowhere” with affection, because I happen to be quite fond of many middle-of-nowhere places. But in reality, this is somewhere - specifically the Sandhills of Nebraska.

Amish who appear to be a part of the Michigan Circle (that group has been showing up a good bit here lately) have started up a new settlement in the area of a town called Valentine. Though in fact the community is some 40 miles from Valentine. It just happens to be the closest mailing address (which is how some Amish communities are “named”).

I wasn’t familiar with the Sandhills region until I spoke with Paul Hammel, the reporter who did the article at the Nebraska Examiner. Apparently it is a very remote and sparsely-populated area. Just like some Amish people like it.

So just how middle-of-nowhere is this middle-of-nowhere place? Well, the county in question is Cherry County. This is a big county by area - the largest in Nebraska. In fact, it’s larger than the entire state of Connecticut - but has a population less than 5,500 people.

(more, with photographs of the Nebraska Sandhills)

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 9, 2024 • 2:41:03am

re: #145 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

There should be no fundamental right to endanger your children’s health. NY has it exactly right.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 2:42:05am

From the original article at the Nebraska Examiner (November 22, 2023)

Amish finding a home well off the beaten path in Nebraska’s Sandhills

“Plans for 15-20 families would make Kilgore settlement one of the largest communities in Cherry County”

KILGORE — Turn south onto the blacktop out of this Cherry County ranch town, and the Sandhills seem to roll on for an eternity.

“Wide-open spaces” aptly describes the endless prairie, where cowboys still work cattle on horseback and stargazers come to get away from city lights.

You’re lucky to encounter another vehicle on the lonely, one-lane road lined by yuccas and little bluestem.

But 15 miles down the narrow route, where the road descends into the Niobrara River valley, a group of Amish newcomers from Michigan and Kentucky are setting down roots.

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In our area, horse-drawn carriage warning signs have gone up on the highways and dirt roads. (Not the pasture trails though: No person would be insane enough to take a horse-drawn carriage on a pasture trail. Those are reserved for vehicles like horses, cattle, tractors, and the occasional Smart car. /s)

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 9, 2024 • 2:44:58am

re: #137 silverdolphin

Tbh, I avoid sugar alternatives because they have a weird aftertaste and I just don’t trust them. I use brown sugar in small doses. I’m not surprised that some sugar alternatives have negative health impacts.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 3:00:06am

re: #148 Patricia Kayden

Tbh, I avoid sugar alternatives because they have a weird aftertaste and I just don’t trust them. I use brown sugar in small doses. I’m not surprised that some sugar alternatives have negative health impacts.

I use sucralose in most things. I’ll use brown sugar on things like Maypo, or maple syrup on things like waffles. (The dentist told me I had to stop using sugar in Kool-Aid or I would lose all my teeth.)

Since my wife has diabetes, sugar is problematic.

On the other hand, we’ve had a sucralose shortage in the Panhandle for several months (you can’t buy it anywhere here, neither name-brand nor off-brand—the closest I can find it is in the Commissary 130 miles away). Add that to the shortage of other things we’ve had here since the pandemic started such as Lysol or bleach.

If there’s a Plandemic, it’s one to strip rural areas of products to provide for cities. There’s more money for the Captains of Industry (tm) in that

Back when I was first diagnosed with epilepsy, my then mother-in-law (an RN) told me I needed to stop drinking Diet Coke, because aspartame causes epilepsy. (???) She would not believe I’d switched from regular Coke after I developed epilepsy.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 3:09:10am

Phys dot org, June 7. 2024

Basic income can double global GDP while reducing carbon emissions, analysis suggests

As anyone who is not suffering from the disorder of money-hoarding could tell you, actually moving money through an economy helps everyone.

Piling it up in things like vaults, art, banks, stocks, real estate “investments,” &c does nothing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 3:16:14am

Thread of six posts at BlueSky.

This article makes a very good point about why the Goldwater rule is outdated: "This was the heyday of classical Freudianism, and most of the Fact magazine commentary was rooted in theoretical mumbo jumbo rather than empirical facts."

But....

www.motherjones.com/politics/202...

Amanda Marcotte (@amandamarcotte.bsky.social) 2024-06-08T14:18:39.512Z

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 9, 2024 • 3:17:45am

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 3:26:09am

Birb.
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 3:27:36am

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

From that article (emphasis mine)

About 15 years ago, Lee and Gilligan began examining deaths by violence in America since 1900. As Lee sliced and diced their massive data set, she was shocked to find significantly higher national rates of violent death under Republican presidents than under Democratic ones. What’s more, murder and suicide rates were higher in states that had voted for Republican presidential candidates than in those that had voted for Democratic candidates. Their key findings were published as a 2011 monograph, Why Some Politicians Are More Dangerous Than Others.

“Since 1900, every time a Republican president has taken over, economic inequality has increased and the country has become more violent,” says Gilligan, now a professor of psychiatry at NYU. And as the government safety net has crumbled in recent decades, rates of murder, imprisonment, and poverty have been five to 10 times higher in the United States than in Western Europe, Canada, and Australasia. Lee and Gilligan had to circulate their data-driven paper on the political correlates of violent death rates for nearly seven years before they finally got it published in 2014 in a specialized journal, Aggression and Violent Behavior. “My sense is that our study kept getting rejected not because it was lousy science but because editors wanted to avoid appearing too political,” she says.

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Targetpractice  Jun 9, 2024 • 3:30:41am

re: #152 Patricia Kayden

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2025: You’re being hysterical, they’re not going to lock fertile women up in camps.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 3:40:20am

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Perazza
@perazza.bsky.social

The line “Since 1900, every time a Republican president has taken over, economic inequality has increased and the country has become more violent” really jumps out. I work at @epi-org.bsky.social (creative) and we recently released a report that supports this 100%

Economic performance is stronger when Democrats hold the White House (Economic Policy Institute, April 2, 2024)

Summary: The economy performs much better during Democratic presidential administrations than during Republican ones.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 9, 2024 • 3:45:02am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 3:55:36am

re: #157 Patricia Kayden

In Mr. Orwell’s “Nineteen Eighty-Four,” there is a line about the language compression IngSoc is imposing on the populace (Newspeak).

It’s noted that the entire US Declaration of Independence would collapse into one word: “Crimethink.”

As far as the title Big Brother goes, there are lots of people who don’t know where the term comes from.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 9, 2024 • 4:03:13am

re: #140 silverdolphin

I stay away from sugar alcohols (like Xylitol), because they cause me gastro problems.

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 4:12:05am

re: #146 Patricia Kayden

There should be no fundamental right to endanger your [other] children’s health. NY has it exactly right.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 9, 2024 • 4:14:10am

re: #160 Dangerman

I mean, it works both ways, whether your children or others’.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 9, 2024 • 4:16:11am

It’s a morning.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 9, 2024 • 4:16:36am

Japan and train stations do meld together:

I Visited the World’s Busiest Train Station

..

Having been to Shinjuku station before, to go salsa dancing at a joint in the neighborhood, I would not describe the surrounding neighborhood as some sort of ideal of urbanism, as the YouTuber claims.

The area around the station includes lots of gathering places for foreigners, and a great deal of nightlife.

So if your thing is going to seedy bars all night then you’ll love the place.

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 4:16:39am

re: #159 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I stay away from sugar alcohols (like Xylitol), because they cause me gastro problems.

The fascinating things we learn here on lgf. ;-)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 4:16:39am

It would appear that Joseph Mercola has gone round the bend. (He was pretty crooked to begin with.)

He was in a funding partnership with the National Vaccine Information Center (antivaxxer wingnut Barbara Lee Fischer). That is, until they received an E-mail from Mercola’s organisation telling them no more money. Mercola consults with a psychic recently, and the psychic told him to cut them off. (The psychic can’t grift from Mercola if he’s giving money to Fischer.)

She compares her “mission” to fallen soldiers of the Armed Forces in war.

Mercola and Fischer unveiled a bronze statue in Cape Coral, Fla. of an angel holding a baby (representing all the babies killed by vaccines) on March 23, 2023.

NVIC was founded in 1982 to represent so-called vaccine-injured DTaP children as a 501(c)3 charity. Your tax money at work.

If you can stomach a whole hell of a lottta narcissism, self-righteousness, over-the-top Christian Oppression Olympics, and even more anti-science crazy, here you go.

If you choose to accept the mission of reading her screed and are killed or captured, Mr. Charles Johnson will disavow any knowledge of your actions.

Needz moar shivs for the wingnuts.

www (dot) nvic (dot) org/newsletter/may-2024/defending-freedom-of-religion (copy and replace dot with full stop marks to create a link)

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Mission Impossible theme song (Original)

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 4:16:56am

re: #161 Nerdy Fish

I mean, it works both ways, whether your children or others’.

Indeed

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 9, 2024 • 4:17:33am

re: #164 Dangerman

The fascinating things we learn here on lgf. ;-)

Sugar alcohols are not digestible by humans, which is why they are used as sugar substitutes.

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 4:23:16am

re: #167 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Sugar alcohols are not digestible by humans, which is why they are used as sugar substitutes.

Thats not the part i meant ;-)

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William Lewis  Jun 9, 2024 • 4:29:25am

re: #163 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Japan and train stations do meld together:

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Having been to Shinjuku station before, to go salsa dancing at a joint in the neighborhood, I would not describe the surrounding neighborhood as some sort of ideal of urbanism, as the YouTuber claims.

The area around the station includes lots of gathering places for foreigners, and a great deal of nightlife.

So if your thing is going to seedy bars all night then you’ll love the place.

Cheap sushi & cheaper Shōchū too 😈

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 4:34:32am

Simon Rosenberg
@SimonWDC
The job creation rate has been 40x greater per month under Biden than under the last 3 GOP Presidents.

Last month’s 272,000 jobs is over 2 years of GOP growth in a single month.

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 4:35:54am

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 4:37:17am
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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 4:41:24am
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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 4:48:55am
“What you don’t hear from Joe Biden is any attack on the judge, any attack on the prosecutor, any attack on the process by which his son is currently in federal court; any suggestion that he would misuse the presidential pardon power; any suggestion that his supporters should riot in the streets over it. Donald Trump, on the other hand, has done all of those things, and the difference reveals the difference in their commitment to the rule of law.”

— Sen. Chris Coons (D-DE), quoted by Politico, on Hunter Biden’s gun trial.

and now…pancakes

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Targetpractice  Jun 9, 2024 • 5:08:30am

re: #173 Dangerman

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Every Accusation Is A Confession.

Our candidate is not the one who shows up to rallies and public appearances acting like he’s jacked up on speed, before slowly petering out as he makes more and more errors until finally he either walks away or they cut him off.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 9, 2024 • 5:09:58am

re: #115 JC1

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Decatur Deb  Jun 9, 2024 • 5:12:47am

re: #146 Patricia Kayden

There should be no fundamental right to endanger your children’s health. NY has it exactly right.

OTOH, the most lethal thing you can do to your kids is to pile them into the car for a trip to grandma, and that’s not on the table.

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William Lewis  Jun 9, 2024 • 5:21:21am

re: #177 Decatur Deb

OTOH, the most lethal thing you can do to your kids is to pile them into the car for a trip to grandma, and that’s not on the table.

I am reminded of a photograph I saw of my ex’s father driving a car in the early 60’s. Said photo taken from the back seat by the older daughter (just visible in the rear view mirror) while mom was holding infant ex in her arms and dad was driving down some back road. Speedo was pegged reading ~100 mph and I doubt the vehicle _had_ seat belts.

WWII vets that made it home really had a case of immortality second only to a 16 year old boy.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 9, 2024 • 5:25:53am

re: #153 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Birb.
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Eventual Carrion  Jun 9, 2024 • 5:45:35am

Solid! Connections

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 5:52:23am

West Virginia Governor Jim Justice (R) stumbles into doing the correct thing.

Veto upholds West Virginia’s strong vaccine requirements (American Medical Association)

What’s the news: After the urging of the AMA, the West Virginia Medical Association and a broad coalition of other medical societies and health care trade groups, Gov. Jim Justice last month vetoed a bill that would have exempted students in private, parochial and virtual schools from vaccine requirements.

The West Virigina State Medical Association and nearly three dozen other organizations representing family physicians, pediatricians, emergency physicians, nurses, hospitals, teachers and more took out a full-page ad in the Charleston Gazette-Mail thanking the governor for his veto, calling the state’s school vaccine requirements “effective, lifesaving” policies.

In his veto message, Justice cited the “constant, strong opposition to this legislation from [the] medical community” that warned of “irreparable harm by crippling childhood immunity to diseases such as mumps and measles.” The governor added that he was compelled to “follow the guidance of our medical experts on this subject.”

(more)

West Virginia is one of only five states which does not allow religious exemptions for vaccines. The other states are Mississippi, New York (currently in federal appeals court by Amish to overturn the law), Connecticut, and California.

Since diseases respect state boundaries, Christians can never bring diseases into those states. /s

West Virginia has one of the lowest rates of vaccine-preventable diseases in the nation.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:00:06am

WHYY-FM, May 20, 2024 (20:28)

Why some researchers are approaching giftedness as a form of neurodivergence - and what that means for ‘gifted burnout’ (audio)

Too long; Didn’t listen: Yes. So-called giftedness is considered neurodivergent. This has been shown over the last ten or fifteen years through MRI scans of children and adults. There are downsides also shown through MRIs and psychology.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:01:50am

re: #137 silverdolphin

Common low-calorie sweetener linked to heart attack and stroke, study finds

Xylitol looks like it might impact the clotting of platelets and those taking the highest doses of the sweetener appear to have many more heart problems than the average person.

Apparently there is a receptor on platelets that xylitol binds to, although we do not yet know what it does.

Xylitol is toxic to dogs so it never crosses my threshold.

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jeffreyw  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:07:11am

Good morning!

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No Malarkey!  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:17:55am

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:20:52am

re: #182 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It most likely from The Pulse. Which airs on Mondays.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:21:00am

re: #185 No Malarkey!

Why can’t protestors be more genteel?

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:22:52am

And here’s another one from Philadelphia: Verizon Hall has been re-named Marian Anderson Hall
whyy.org

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:24:01am

re: #186 PhillyPretzel ✅

It most likely from The Pulse. Which airs on Mondays.

There is also a text transcript at the link.

After discussing so-called gifted people, they go on to musical prodigies, where they made similar studies. There they found it was involvement of parents or guardians which determined a prodigy rather than brain differences.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:26:26am

re: #153 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Birb.
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:28:07am

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:30:17am

re: #161 Nerdy Fish

I mean, it works both ways, whether your children or others’.

In CA, the compromise is that you don’t have to vaccinate your kids, but you can’t send them to (any) school if you don’t.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:30:22am

re: #191 Patricia Kayden

A cutting-edge political theory…

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No Malarkey!  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:30:30am

re: #191 Patricia Kayden

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Nearly four hundred years later, Trump asks the Supreme Court to bring the principle back for Presidents.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:34:17am

re: #194 No Malarkey!

Donald the First, Prince of Orange.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:36:26am

re: #195 Decatur Deb

Donald the First, Prince of Orange.

Don’t let the House of Orange hear about their new member.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:38:01am

re: #196 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

A minor member, according to expert testimony.

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Belafon  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:39:38am

re: #189 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

There is also a text transcript at the link.

After discussing so-called gifted people, they go on to musical prodigies, where they made similar studies. There they found it was involvement of parents or guardians which determined a prodigy rather than brain differences.

My hypothesis based on personal experience and reading biographical information: a neurodivergence needs a good support structure to flourish, especially in something like sciences, but they all need access to the right tools and resources at the right time.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:49:08am

re: #171 Dangerman

Imma…

I am…

What?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:52:18am

re: #180 Eventual Carrion

I usually don’t do connections every day because I suck at it. I’d say I successfully solve it maybe 50% of the times I play. Today… Pretty good.

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Belafon  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:52:21am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2024 • 6:57:05am

re: #201 Belafon

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:02:38am

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

WDIO-TV (Duluth)

Atheists would like Christians to leave their churches. We don’t want them to kill themselves and others.

Too many Republicans have proven to be impervious to logic and science. This is performance art that will kill not just them but others too. Not all Christians hold these views and there are many who are not religious who also objected to restrictions during the pandemic — such as libertarians.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:03:04am

Michael Wolff claims Trump is ‘totally incoherent’ when he’s not in front of the cameras

What say you Sulzberger? Inquiring minds want to know if you will stop kissing Trump’s Ass?

As part of the inaugural episode of his “Fire and Fury” podcast, author Michael Wolff — recently known for his gossipy insider accounts on the life of Donald Trump and the people who surround him — claimed that the former president is a bit of a mess when he is not on camera.

As the Daily Beast’s Brooke Leigh Howard is reporting, Wolff claims that the former president has been making some statements lately that have some of his close aides baffled which could be the result of him playing the “role” of Trump the candidate before adoring crowds.

Wolff reportedly explained, “Any sense that he’s put in a position where he’s going to be offstage is a dangerous place for him to be. Onstage: He’s in the role. He’s Donald Trump,” before suggesting behind the scenes Trump is “totally incoherent.”

According to the author, Trump is at his best when the cameras are on, because, at heart, he’s a performer and he would try and turn a stint in jail into a spectacle.

“I think that if he did go to jail, he would figure out a way to make that his stage,” Wolff stated. “That would be the effect that they would make him even more famous. Jail would become an extraordinary platform for him.”

thedailybeast.com

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Dr. Matt  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:05:35am

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:07:45am

re: #193 Decatur Deb

A cutting-edge political theory…

Well it worked
..for a few days

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:08:14am

re: #194 No Malarkey!

Nearly four hundred years later, Trump asks the Supreme Court to bring the principle back for Presidents [him].

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:10:04am

Republicans have chosen to weaponize stupidity. And we are seeing the deadly consequences of their actions.

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darthstar  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:10:14am

re: #205 Dr. Matt

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It’s still hovering in the mid $40s so I don’t know why he’s complaining. It’s way over valued.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:11:25am

‘Rewarding Putin’: Fox News host nails Trump’s Ukraine plan while grilling Tom Cotton

Fox News host: Isn’t Trump giving Putin ‘what he wanted?’

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:11:38am

re: #203 Hecuba’s daughter

Too many Republicans have proven to be impervious to logic and science. This is performance art that will kill not just them but others too. Not all Christians hold these views and there are many who are not religious who also objected to restrictions during the pandemic — such as libertarians.

Libertarians fail to address that they still operate under the same social contract with the rest of us

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:12:16am

re: #178 William Lewis

I am reminded of a photograph I saw of my ex’s father driving a car in the early 60’s. Said photo taken from the back seat by the older daughter (just visible in the rear view mirror) while mom was holding infant ex in her arms and dad was driving down some back road. Speedo was pegged reading ~100 mph and I doubt the vehicle _had_ seat belts.

WWII vets that made it home really had a case of immortality second only to a 16 year old boy.

When I was a lad, back in the 60s, we’d go on long, summer trips in our International Travel-all towing a vacation trailer. No seat belts, no baby seat for the youngest, dad driving with both he and my mom smoking in the front. Given all that, I don’t recall ever being caught up in an accident and that’s with putting tens of thousands of miles on the road all over the US over multiple summers. Of course, we’d also ride our bikes to school, play baseball in the street, and do all the other crazy shit kids of that era did. It was a different time.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:13:47am

re: #211 Dangerman

Libertarians fail to address that they still operate under the same social contract with the rest of us

Memories of Dad’s pal former Congressman Ron Klink saying “Libertarians believe in a Cole Porter world where anything goes!”

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darthstar  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:13:57am

Mornin’ puzzle report:
Par
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all 3 pangrams
Yellow, Green, Blue, Purple

Wrong order…I go Wordle->Bee->Mini->Connections

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:14:50am

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Belafon  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:14:59am

re: #211 Dangerman

Libertarians fail to address that they still operate under the same social contract with the rest of us

“You’re a libertarian? That’ll be $15.”
“What for?”
“For me not kicking you in the balls.”

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darthstar  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:16:27am

re: #210 Joe Bacon ✅

‘Rewarding Putin’: Fox News host nails Trump’s Ukraine plan while grilling Tom Cotton

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Nah…Trump won’t give him Poland for another two years if he’s elected.

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:16:52am

re: #204 Joe Bacon ✅

Michael Wolff claims Trump is ‘totally incoherent’ when he’s not in front of the cameras

What say you Sulzberger? Inquiring minds want to know if you will stop kissing Trump’s Ass?

As part of the inaugural episode of his “Fire and Fury” podcast, author Michael Wolff — recently known for his gossipy insider accounts on the life of Donald Trump and the people who surround him — claimed that the former president is a bit of a mess when he is not on camera.

As the Daily Beast’s Brooke Leigh Howard is reporting, Wolff claims that the former president has been making some statements lately that have some of his close aides baffled which could be the result of him playing the “role” of Trump the candidate before adoring crowds.

Wolff reportedly explained, “Any sense that he’s put in a position where he’s going to be offstage is a dangerous place for him to be. Onstage: He’s in the role. He’s Donald Trump,” before suggesting behind the scenes Trump is “totally incoherent.”

According to the author, Trump is at his best when the cameras are on, because, at heart, he’s a performer and he would try and turn a stint in jail into a spectacle.

“I think that if he did go to jail, he would figure out a way to make that his stage,” Wolff stated. “That would be the effect that they would make him even more famous. Jail would become an extraordinary platform for him.”

thedailybeast.com

1. Cue the wsj people behind the scenes are saying…. They should know how. They just did one on Biden (hatchet job though it was)

2. BS on the bold. He’d make a statement, then go in and be silenced

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:18:04am

re: #209 darthstar

It’s still hovering in the mid $40s so I don’t know why he’s complaining. It’s way over valued.

How dare anyone else make money off my temporary “misfortune “

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darthstar  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:20:10am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:22:40am

Morning Lizards. Getting the Egg back in running condition. Battery pack was completely discharged (as I expected), so that’s the first thing to correct.

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darthstar  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:23:47am

Today’s Inspirational Skeletor is a bit snarky.

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:24:12am

Birdie #300 of 789 played

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:24:22am

The Fall of Roe: You Thought Dobbs Was Bad? They’re Coming for Brown v. Board

Elizabeth Dias and Lisa Lehrer’s new book on how the Supreme Court took away federal abortion rights is a must-read politics page-turner. It also points to huge shocks to come.

from their article:

In Justice on Trial, an examination of Brett Kavanaugh’s elevation to the Supreme Court, conservative talking heads Carrie Severino, of JCN, and Mollie Hemingway, of the Federalist, trashed Brown.

According to Severino and Hemingway, social science wrongly played a role in the court’s calculus. They declared that such decisions “may have been correct in their result but were decided on the basis of sociological studies rather than legal principles.”

Notice the word “may.”

Fast forward to May 2024, when Thomas—who joined Alito’s opinion in Dobbs—turned his fire on Brown.

“Such extravagant uses of judicial power are at odds with the history and tradition of the equity power and the Framers’ design,” he wrote in a concurrence, sustaining a South Carolina congressional map in the face of voting rights challenge.

As another election looms, abortion and contraception have emerged as campaign issues, to the horror of Trump. On the stump, the presumptive Republican nominee has vacillated over possible restrictions on contraception. Then again, Stormy Daniels testified that Trump did not wear a condom during an encounter Trump still denies, notwithstanding 34 guilty verdicts in the case arising.

thedailybeast.com

Friendly Reminder that Criswell Bacon has warned folks that overturning Brown is on the agenda of this corrupted court. No doubt Loving will also go after they reverse Obergefell…

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:28:35am

re: #222 darthstar

Today’s Inspirational Skeletor is a bit snarky.

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Nobody, on their deathbed, ever said “I wish that I’d spent more time at the office’.

— attributed to Paul Tsongas

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:28:50am

re: #153 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Birb.
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A Cranky One  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:29:12am

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:30:23am

re: #204 Joe Bacon ✅

I say we find out just what kind of stage he’d make his cell.

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:31:15am

re: #220 darthstar

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That “hill” at the end looks like the Teton pass

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:31:49am

re: #228 GlutenFreeJesus

I say we find out just what kind of stage he’d make his cell.

No doubt his Pulpit Pimp Posse will proclaim Trump to be persecuted like the prophet Jeremiah…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:32:30am

re: #230 Joe Bacon ✅

Let ‘em.

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:33:08am

re: #230 Joe Bacon ✅

No doubt his Pulpit Pimp Posse will proclaim Trump to be persecuted like the prophet Jeremiah…

Yup
I’m willing to do the work to put this to the test

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:33:41am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Ohmigawd that Gibson guitar I want it.

I am not big on GIbson acoustic guitars (more of a Martin fan) but I would really love to get my hands on a vintage GIbson Firebird.

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darthstar  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:34:30am

Just saw this on dKos - apparently Dr. Phildo asked about Trump’s youngest…tell me you know nothing about your son without saying you know nothing about your son:

And he’s a great kid. He’s a good student, you know. Got accepted to different colleges. Got some of those colleges. All of a sudden, they’re riding all over the place. You know, you’re saying, but he’s a good boy, is a tall boy, tall. He’s very tall and he’s a great kid. Just a good looking kid. And you know, he’s going to be going to college, but he doesn’t say it. And I think he doesn’t say because he doesn’t want to hurt me. And he thinks it’s a possibly a hurtful conversation, but it has to affect my family.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:36:47am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

stochastically stoked!

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:38:26am

I’ve mentioned the idjit who accused Stuart Humphreys of faking his beautiful autochromes on the grounds that “colour photography wasn’t invented until 1961.”
Well, I found one today who exceeds even that level of ignorance. He thought the U-2 photos from the Cuban Missile Crisis were fake because “there was no way those ‘photographs’ could have been transmitted to our leaders” (his quotes). Never mind that facsimile transmission had existed for a hundred years by then (yes, look it up), the real process involved flying the exposed film to Maryland, developing it, analyzing the prints and hand carrying them to the White House. By the time the crisis ended, this could all be done in about three and a half hours.
Turned out the idjit had never heard of film cameras.
Incidentally, early in the crisis, US ambassador to France Charles Bohlen briefed Charles de Gaulle on the discovery and showed him faxed copies of the photos. Knowing that these had lower resolution than the original, Bohlen offered to have prints from the original negatives flown to Paris so French experts could examine them. De Gaulle responded, “No! The word of the President of the United States is good enough for me.” Imagine how unlikely this would have been five years ago. Today we might be back to that level of trust, though Macron would probably still want verification.

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:38:43am

Yesterday I saw my first Florida cockroach. It’s the size of a freaking Boeing! What do you use to kill those things that won’t put holes in the walls?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:41:13am

re: #172 Dangerman

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Unfortunately, Republicans aren’t panicking because practically no one cares about the political positions of those three politicians. Not a single one has any substantial support among any group of voters.

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darthstar  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:42:06am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:42:29am

re: #40 allegro

T What I didn’t anticipate was that it never got dark. Not even dusk until 2 or 3am. It. Just. Isn’t. The. Same. And it’s so weird for most of us. Disorienting. Exhausting even.

As much as I like visiting Finland (a good buddy of mine lives there) I don’t think I could ever get used to the extremes of light and dark. I have it bad enough living just above 50°N (roughly the level of Winnipeg)

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wrenchwench  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:43:24am

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:45:10am

re: #237 Vicious Babushka

That is where a good wet/dry vacuum comes in handy. I vacuum practically all of the bugs in my house.

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A Cranky One  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:45:50am

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jeffreyw  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:45:56am

via

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darthstar  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:46:05am

re: #242 PhillyPretzel ✅

That is where a good wet/dry vacuum comes in handy. I vacuumrapture practically all of the bugs in my house.

FIFY

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:47:35am

re: #237 Vicious Babushka

Yesterday I saw my first Florida cockroach. It’s the size of a freaking Boeing! What do you use to kill those things that won’t put holes in the walls?

I don’t smash em flat and don’t try to kill em..too messy
I use a flip flop
hit once -just hard enough- it stuns them good
They fall to the floor
Doesn’t leave a mark on the wall
Then pick up with a paper towel and toss.

Ymmv

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:48:03am

re: #246 Dangerman

I don’t smash em flat and don’t try to kill em..too messy
I use a flip flop
hit once -just hard enough- it stuns them good
They fall to the floor
Doesn’t leave a mark on the wall
Then pick up with a paper towel and toss.

Ymmv

EWWWWW

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darthstar  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:49:48am

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:51:49am

re: #237 Vicious Babushka

Yesterday I saw my first Florida cockroach. It’s the size of a freaking Boeing! What do you use to kill those things that won’t put holes in the walls?

Sounds like you might need the M-29 “Davy Crockett”.

The only way to be sure
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A Cranky One  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:52:31am

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:53:56am

re: #247 Vicious Babushka

EWWWWW

I know
It takes a little practice to get used to it
I can’t be lugging out a machine because sometimes they move fast and you lose em under the sofa or wherever
this is quick, clean and you don’t “feel” anything through the paper towel

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darthstar  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:55:00am

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:55:27am

re: #249 Dr Lizardo

Sounds like you might need the M-29 “Davy Crockett”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:55:35am
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JC1  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:56:40am

re: #138 silverdolphin

YouTuber charged in stunt video showing fireworks launched at Lamborghini from flying helicopter

He could go to jail for 10 years because of this stunt. The Feds do not like it at all when any kind of incendiary device is taken on an aircraft for any reason without prior approval. And without any first responders on site in case something went wrong. The pilot of the helicopter, who turned off the helicoptor’s transponder, has lot his license. And may lose a lot more .

Wayback Machine has the video.

The techbro mantra of “it is better to ask forgiveness than permission” meets the real world with a felony indictment.

He should have just mounted a 50mm machine gun. Shall NOT BE INFRINGED!!! /s

I’m annoyed by this type of prosecution. No one got hurt. There was no attempt to hurt or defraud anyone. FFS, a felony with up to 10 years in prison? WTF???

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:57:07am

re: #237 Vicious Babushka

Yesterday I saw my first Florida cockroach. It’s the size of a freaking Boeing! What do you use to kill those things that won’t put holes in the walls?

From 2012, Florida man bugs out.

Man Collapses, Dies After Winning Roach-Eating Contest in Broward

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:57:36am

re: #95 Dangerman

Not duct tape and bailing wire?

A Russian friend tells me about his basic training in the Red Army (this was long ago) and the first thing his drill sergeant said to them was “You know why we won WW2? Because you could fix a T-34 with a hammer, pliers and some bailing wire!”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:59:42am

re: #255 JC1

He should have just mounted a 50mm machine gun. Shall NOT BE INFRINGED!!! /s

I’m annoyed by this type of prosecution. No one got hurt. There was no attempt to hurt or defraud anyone. FFS, a felony with up to 10 years in prison? WTF???

Too easy for an incendiary device to go from an aircraft (or drone) into a place where it can start a fire that would quickly be dangerous and/or hard to control and put out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2024 • 7:59:49am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Works the other way too. The sort of folks who think they can “cure” a meat eater with a tasteless block of tofu or scream “murderer” in a restaurant.

We have yet to overcome our pre-adolescent fixation with bodily orifices, what goes in them and what comes out of them. That applies to many of our odd obsessions about food and sex.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:02:13am

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

WDIO-TV (Duluth)

Atheists would like Christians to leave their churches. We don’t want them to kill themselves and others.

As an atheist, I don’t care if you leave your church or stay in it, just keep it out of my face.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:03:44am

re: #249 Dr Lizardo

Sounds like you might need the M-29 “Davy Crockett”.

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A wall that no longer exists has no holes in it.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:06:51am

re: #252 darthstar

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Russian? Who else puts the sign at the end of the monetary amount number.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:09:38am

re: #198 Belafon

My hypothesis based on personal experience and reading biographical information: a neurodivergence needs a good support structure to flourish, especially in something like sciences, but they all need access to the right tools and resources at the right time.

They used to send people like that off to monasteries and cloisters…

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:09:42am

re: #253 Dangerman

C-4?

W-54 nuclear .02 kilotons (ie 20 tons of TNT). Lowest yield operational nuke. Still enough to flatten, say, NRA headquarters, and flash fry anyone within a couple of city blocks.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:11:07am

re: #264 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

W-54 nuclear .02 kilotons (ie 20 tons of TNT). Lowest yield operational nuke. Still enough to flatten, say, NRA headquarters, and flash fry anyone within a couple of city blocks.

Ideal for large cockroaches and Giant Murder Hornets.

Or a Xenomorph infestation.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:12:57am

re: #259 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:17:00am

re: #258 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Too easy for an incendiary device to go from an aircraft (or drone) into a place where it can start a fire that would quickly be dangerous and/or hard to control and put out.

In Homer Hickam Jr’s memoir _Rocket Boys_ (aka _October Sky_) there is a claim at one time that one of their rockets started a forest fire. This includes being confronted, but not detained, by some West Virginia state troopers.

It’s later decided that the fire was started by an aircraft flare related to a nearby airport.

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Nojay UK  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:19:12am

re: #255 JC1

I’m annoyed by this type of prosecution. No one got hurt. There was no attempt to hurt or defraud anyone. FFS, a felony with up to 10 years in prison? WTF???

There was a Youtuber recently who bought a single-engined light aircraft and flew it around for a bit and then one day he was flying it and making content for his channel and the plane somehow had a “malfunction” and he bailed out because he was somehow wearing a parachute and he somehow had the plane covered with cameras which he recovered from the wreck and somehow got millions of views on his channel over the incident.

Somehow the FAA is all over this guy’s ass. Funny that.

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Belafon  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:21:52am

re: #266 GlutenFreeJesus

Which will always have to be coupled with:

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:23:15am

re: #183 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Xylitol is toxic to dogs so it never crosses my threshold.

So is chocolate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:23:46am

Today is election day in Germany and my daughter is about to go down to the village hall.

Somebody posted this: “The difference between 1933 & 2024: YOU!”

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steve_davis  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:33:48am

re: #237 Vicious Babushka

Yesterday I saw my first Florida cockroach. It’s the size of a freaking Boeing! What do you use to kill those things that won’t put holes in the walls?

In South Carolina they fly, and they sound like small engine lawn equipment when they do.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:35:22am

re: #270 Hecuba’s daughter

So is chocolate.

If I bring in chocolate it’s well guarded from the kids. I don’t ever need xylitol. On occasion I need chocolate. I try to manage our risks appropriately.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:36:51am

re: #272 steve_davis

In South Carolina they fly, and they sound like small engine lawn equipment when they do.

There are giant bastards like that in Arizona as well. I recall one of them that got into our record collection and got crushed when I tipped it to the side when sorting through it, it was smashed flat on John Lennon’s forehead on the cover of Imagine

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:37:39am

re: #211 Dangerman

Libertarians fail to address that they still operate under the same social contract with the rest of us

Libertarians are cats — so they think that they are totally independent (while depending on others for food, lodging, and healthcare) and there should be no restrictions on their right to do whatever they wish, with laws preventing others from interfering with their decisions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:44:41am

If we were all hatched out as fully-formed, healthy adult individuals ready to have a basic education chip implanted in our brains and and then sent out to perform to the best of our abilities in the competitive maketplace, then I could understand the notion of a Libertarian, Ayn-Randian society.

But we are born fully dependent, rely on others to grow, develop and learn, while some of us remain dependent all our lives for various reasons, and most all of us become dependent again with increasing age.

I want to live in a society that reflects those relationships and deals with them in a humane manner, and I want to live in a society where everything is not reduced to the level of a fungible commodity and all human interactions are not merely business transactions.

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:47:11am

re: #246 Dangerman

I don’t smash em flat and don’t try to kill em..too messy
I use a flip flop
hit once -just hard enough- it stuns them good
They fall to the floor
Doesn’t leave a mark on the wall
Then pick up with a paper towel and toss.

Ymmv

I be like James Bond in Dr. No, killing the tarantula! (1:20)

Dr. No (2/8) Movie CLIP - Eight-Legged Assassin (1962) HD

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Egregious Philbin  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:48:12am

re: #274 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Palo Verde beetles. Big scary looking, but completely harmless, just a few weeks a year when they come out..

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Decatur Deb  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:48:41am

re: #237 Vicious Babushka

Yesterday I saw my first Florida cockroach. It’s the size of a freaking Boeing! What do you use to kill those things that won’t put holes in the walls?

We call those Palmetto Bugs, and consider them wildlife. (They only seem to invade the house during the Spring and Fall season changes.)

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:50:11am

re: #275 Hecuba’s daughter

Libertarians are cats — so they think that they are totally independent (while depending on others for food, lodging, and healthcare) and there should be no restrictions on their right to do whatever they wish, with laws preventing others from interfering with their decisions.

The difference being that cats can generally fend for themselves if they need to.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 9, 2024 • 8:52:09am

Happy Sunday!

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wrenchwench  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:02:09am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:09:59am

re: #279 Decatur Deb

We call those Palmetto Bugs, and consider them wildlife. (They only seem to invade the house during the Spring and Fall season changes.)

Uhm, is that supposed to make her feel better? (Shudder)

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Decatur Deb  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:11:45am

re: #283 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Uhm, is that supposed to make her feel better? (Shudder)

If they answer to their name, you shouldn’t kill them.

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:14:11am

It hasn’t moved since last night.

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:15:10am

Can somebody tell me how to flip a photo on LGF?

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Belafon  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:16:23am

re: #286 Vicious Babushka

Can somebody tell me how to flip a photo on LGF?

Now that you have it uploaded, if you go to the image library, there are rotate buttons next to it. It will create a new image in the library.

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Jay C  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:17:48am

re: #286 Vicious Babushka

Can somebody tell me how to flip a photo on LGF?

If you’re using the Image Library function on the Comments box, there should be a tag for “Rotate” which will let you turn the image one way or another. Hit “save image” and then delete the old pic,
Though hopefully, when you flip the picture, the bug won’t fall down into your kitchen…..

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:19:25am

re: #255 JC1

He should have just mounted a 50mm machine gun. Shall NOT BE INFRINGED!!! /s

I’m annoyed by this type of prosecution. No one got hurt. There was no attempt to hurt or defraud anyone. FFS, a felony with up to 10 years in prison? WTF???

I’m sure the actual penalty won’t be 10 years — and probably not even prison time. But just because there was no intention to harm anyone doesn’t mean that something couldn’t go terribly wrong and cause serious injuries or damage.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:20:56am

re: #286 Vicious Babushka

Can somebody tell me how to flip a photo on LGF?

If you flip it 180 degrees, twice, before uploading it, it will post in the correct orientation.

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mmmirele  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:21:58am

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I never had whooping cough/pertussis, but I have had illnesses over my life (most recently the entirety of last December) where I just couldn’t stop coughing. I call it hacking up a lung. And whooping cough is worse than that. I cannot understand for the life of me why parents are being such idiots about getting their children vaccinated. Maybe it’s because they never saw up close and personal the impacts from “childhood diseases” like our parents and we now older folk did?

I swear, it’s going to take an epidemic of a “childhood disease” along with lots and lots of death of *children* to get attention. And then, maybe not even then, because anti-vaxxers are whack.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:24:12am

re: #285 Vicious Babushka

It hasn’t moved since last night.

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Vacuum. Definitely.

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mmmirele  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:25:23am

re: #285 Vicious Babushka

That’s a flying cockroach aka palmetto bug. I remember my sister and I sleeping with the lights on in a hotel room in Brownsville, TX, because one flew at us and freaked us out (we were teenagers, relatively new to Texas at that point).

If there is absolutely one reason why I love living in the Phoenix area is that cockroaches are not endemic here, unlike Texas. You do have to look out for scorpions, however.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:26:49am

re: #293 mmmirele

In Arizona, jewelers will sometimes cast the scorpions into silver. Makes for a creepy pendant.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:28:31am

Michael Steele vs Dumbass Donalds

MSNBC 06 09 2024 09 50 39

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:32:10am

re: #291 mmmirele

I never had whooping cough/pertussis, but I have had illnesses over my life (most recently the entirety of last December) where I just couldn’t stop coughing. I call it hacking up a lung. And whooping cough is worse than that. I cannot understand for the life of me why parents are being such idiots about getting their children vaccinated. Maybe it’s because they never saw up close and personal the impacts from “childhood diseases” like our parents and we now older folk did?

I swear, it’s going to take an epidemic of a “childhood disease” along with lots and lots of death of *children* to get attention. And then, maybe not even then, because anti-vaxxers are whack.

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BeachDem  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:34:10am

re: #293 mmmirele

That’s a flying cockroach aka palmetto bug. I remember my sister and I sleeping with the lights on in a hotel room in Brownsville, TX, with the lights on, because one flew at us and freaked us out (we were teenagers, relatively new to Texas at that point).

If there is absolutely one reason why I love living in the Phoenix area is that cockroaches are not endemic here, unlike Texas. You do have to look out for scorpions, however.

Of all the places I’ve ever been, Brownsville, TX had more bugs per square inch than anywhere else.

As to ridding my kitchen of bugs, I discovered that ripping out everything (appliances, cabinets, countertops), having an exterminator tent the place, then completely renovating seems to be doing the trick (so far—hope I’m not jinxing myself.) Yes, it’s an expensive fix, but whatever. (the fact that I hated my kitchen before was only a minor consideration)

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darthstar  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:34:32am

re: #258 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Too easy for an incendiary device to go from an aircraft (or drone) into a place where it can start a fire that would quickly be dangerous and/or hard to control and put out.

Or turn the aircraft itself into an incendiary device with no control or direction.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:38:03am

Catching up

On Gibson guitars I used to have a Gibson SG that I did not like playing. There was something about it that irritated me. The only Gibson guitar I ever truly coveted was a red Trini Lopez model from the 1960s there was one at the Chicago store in Tucson years ago that I coould not afford but it felt right - if you know what I mean

On big bugs once in Arizona, one of those huge Beetles flew in in the dorm when we were hanging out with these girls, and I took off my Adidas, and I whacked that thing as hard as I could and I turned around to go get a paper towel to pick it up and scoop it away but by the time I came back a second later it just looked at me and flew away. No big deal dude, yes the girls were not impressed by my physical strength wailing on this bug, and I did pound on it pretty hard, but I was mostly impressed by the toughness of the insect, and never screwed with another one again

On animals see photo.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:38:33am

re: #291 mmmirele

Memories of being bedridden for 3 weeks with measles when I was in the second grade. So weak Mom had to help me get to the bathroom. The only thing Mom could get me to eat was fruit cocktail mixed with cottage cheese. Mom was on edge the whole time because She & Dad lost two daughters before I was born. Mom would not leave me the whole time I was sick unless she had to go to the bathroom or she fixed the cottage cheese for me. Dad would fix a hot plate for her to eat.

The measles struck 2nd grade so bad at one point there were only 6 kids in class instead of the full 25. When I was able to go back to school I found out one of the girls was blinded by measles and another girl died from brain hemorrhages.

Never want to experience that again.

Yet Cuckoo For Cocoa Puffs RFK sees nothing wrong with that and neither do Republicans who want to cull the herd and let the weak die.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:44:07am

It’s so pleasing when 19th Century Fox gets blindsided

Laura Fink derails Hunter Biden segment to focus on Trump

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mmmirele  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:48:42am

re: #300 Joe Bacon ✅

You don’t have to convince me. My mother used to tell us how she missed the entirety of first grade due to measles. She was also hard of hearing after that. Mom was vigilant and religious about getting us any vaccine that was available.

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austin_blue  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:53:22am

re: #253 Dangerman

C-4?

Micro-nuke.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:54:38am

Here’s someting for the drummers. :)

youtube.com

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:58:31am

re: #302 mmmirele

You don’t have to convince me. My mother used to tell us how she missed the entirety of first grade due to measles. She was also hard of hearing after that. Mom was vigilant and religious about getting us any vaccine that was available.

And just in case someone doesn’t know… pertussis vaccine wasn’t normally given to adults because all the kiddies were vaccinated, but since the epidemic of idiocy (there’s no vaccine for that), you can and should make sure your vaccination for it is current.

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JC1  Jun 9, 2024 • 9:59:40am

re: #268 Nojay UK

There was a Youtuber recently who bought a single-engined light aircraft and flew it around for a bit and then one day he was flying it and making content for his channel and the plane somehow had a “malfunction” and he bailed out because he was somehow wearing a parachute and he somehow had the plane covered with cameras which he recovered from the wreck and somehow got millions of views on his channel over the incident.

Somehow the FAA is all over this guy’s ass. Funny that.

That guy caused a small airplane to crash uncontrollably. I’d argue that the helicopter fireworks stunt was far less dangerous.
People fire off tons of fireworks every 4th of July.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:02:38am

re: #204 Joe Bacon ✅

Ummmm, from what I have seen he is totally incoherent even when he IS in front of the cameras.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:04:52am

re: #306 JC1

That guy caused a small airplane to crash uncontrollably. I’d argue that the helicopter fireworks stunt was far less dangerous.
People fire off tons of fireworks every 4th of July.

Every 4th of July every asshole in my part of Koreatown sets off fireworks, bottle rockets, M80s and they blast off their guns until 3 or 4 in the morning. Which made going to work on the 5th hell because I got very little sleep.

But this year will be different because I’m retired as of 6/30 so F It! I’m gonna sleep in on the 5th and I can get up at Noon and not worry about asking for leave on the 5th. From 7/1 on—nope not working. That pension check is a coming…

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:07:38am

re: #306 JC1

That guy caused a small airplane to crash uncontrollably. I’d argue that the helicopter fireworks stunt was far less dangerous.
People fire off tons of fireworks every 4th of July.

No, it was as dangerous, and possibly more so, because one misfire could have spooked the pilot or caused damage, and triggered an uncontrollable crash that might have killed people. Malfunction boy that Nojay mentioned, at least, planned out his “accident” so that the plane crashed where he wanted it to crash. There’s a reason the helicopter pilot lost his license over this; fucking around from aircraft increases the danger of the fucking around, similar to how fucking around from a car is more dangerous than fucking around on foot. If you do something stupid, and it works, it’s still stupid and you’re lucky.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:09:39am

In 2021, 12000 fires were attributed to fireworks by the NFPA.
abc57.com

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Backwoods Sleuth  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:11:19am

re: #306 JC1

That guy caused a small airplane to crash uncontrollably. I’d argue that the helicopter fireworks stunt was far less dangerous.
People fire off tons of fireworks every 4th of July.

From Michigan to California, July 4th firework mishaps claimed lives and injured dozens

A woman died and nine other people suffered injuries after fireworks exploded at a Michigan home. A man in Kentucky was killed trying to light a commercial-grade firework with a homemade mortar tube.

These incidents are among nearly a half-dozen reported firework-related fatalities police and fire officials said have taken place across the nation during this year’s Fourth of July festivities.

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More than 10,000 fireworks-related injuries were treated in emergency rooms in the U.S. last year, including 11 fireworks-related deaths, according to the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:12:51am

re: #310 Decatur Deb

In 2021, 12000 fires were attributed to fireworks by the NFPA.
abc57.com

Here in Los Angeles you can count on the AQI going into the Unhealthful range from all the smoke from the fireworks. A couple years ago I woke up and in my area it was 450 (Hazardous)

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Decatur Deb  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:13:39am

re: #312 Joe Bacon ✅

Here in Los Angeles you can count on the AQI going into the Unhealthful range from all the smoke from the fireworks. A couple years ago I woke up and in my area it was 450 (Hazardous)

Freedom Smoke.

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steve_davis  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:15:18am

If you’re needing a light comedy, Netflix has a couple of seasons of Fisk, about a female lawyer in Australia. 30 minute episodes that just mirror much of what we have to tolerate in real life.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:17:23am

re: #302 mmmirele

You don’t have to convince me. My mother used to tell us how she missed the entirety of first grade due to measles. She was also hard of hearing after that. Mom was vigilant and religious about getting us any vaccine that was available.

My mom couldn’t raise her right arm over her head because of childhood polio.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:18:36am

High in Vegas today is 103.

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Jay C  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:19:22am

re: #313 Decatur Deb

re: #312 Joe Bacon ✅

Here in Los Angeles you can count on the AQI going into the Unhealthful range from all the smoke from the fireworks. A couple years ago I woke up and in my area it was 450 (Hazardous)

Freedom Smoke.

Patriot Smog.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:21:31am

re: #317 Jay C

Patriot Smog.

Freedom Fog.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:25:10am

re: #318 Eclectic Cyborg

Freedom Fog.

“I love the smell of cordite in the morning. Smells like… freedom.”

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Decatur Deb  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:26:50am

re: #318 Eclectic Cyborg

Freedom Fog.


It’s carbon and monoxide
The Ole Detroit perfume
And it hangs on the highways
In the morning
And it lays you down by noon

Paul Simon

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:32:08am

Check out this marvelous example of technological innovation I have discovered. You don’t have to take your phone out of your pocket or even press a button to see the time. Better yet, it uses this clever analog format rather than just a string of digits so you can tell how much time has passed relative to how much is left in clear graphic form. What will they think of next?

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Belafon  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:34:37am

re: #321 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Check out this marvelous example of technological innovation I have discovered. You don’t have to take your phone out of your pocket or even press a button to see the time. Better yet, it uses this clever analog format rather than just a string of digits so you can tell how much time has passed relative to how much is left in clear graphic form. What will they think of next?

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I’ve tried to ask it how to reset the check oil light on my car and it gives me no response.

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Belafon  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:35:34am

re: #321 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

And even though it’s green, it won’t let me post here.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:36:46am

Off to update our League of Women Voters registration action plan. This week we have a good venue—a Massed Bands concert with several military/employer/college recruiting setups. Think Drumline, my kind of scene.

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Jay C  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:37:22am

re: #321 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Check out this marvelous example of technological innovation I have discovered. You don’t have to take your phone out of your pocket or even press a button to see the time. Better yet, it uses this clever analog format rather than just a string of digits so you can tell how much time has passed relative to how much is left in clear graphic form. What will they think of next?

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Maybe some way to make it operate independent of an outside power source? Like, maybe a wound-up spring with a graduated gearing system…?

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A Cranky One  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:40:50am

re: #325 Jay C

Maybe some way to make it operate independent of an outside power source? Like, maybe a wound-up spring with a graduated gearing system…?

It would be improved by making it EMP proof.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:42:32am

re: #321 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Here’s another example of amazing time-keeping technology. One of my favorites, too…picked it up a couple of months ago.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:45:21am

First heat casualty reported at Trump Vegas rally hours before he takes the stage

Fears that fans of Donald Trump will be putting their health at risk if they attend his Las Vegas rally on Sunday appear to be coming true with medics being called for one victim more than three hours before the former president takes the stage.

On Saturday, the New York Times reported that Trump campaign staffers were scrambling to put in place measures to alleviate any health issues with the desert heat expected to hit a possible 104 degrees.

According to the Times, “The Trump campaign said it will have thousands of bottles of water on hand in Las Vegas to offer to people in line and to those already inside the security perimeter. It will put up tents around the park so that people can get out of the sun, and there will be at least one tent with air-conditioning. Campaign staff will set up a number of misting fans to help cool off attendees.”

On Sunday morning, the Reno Gazette-Journal reported the first MAGA fan succumbed to the oppressive heat at 8:45 am when the temperature was 86 degrees and climbing.

According to the report, a secret service agent “ran toward the security line shouting ‘medic,’ at Sunset Park where the rally will take place.

The report added, “t was the first call for medical help on a day that could see many of them. According to the National Weather Service, it was 86 degrees but temperatures are expected to top 100 degrees with no shade for attendees. A person was wheeled to a closed, air-conditioned tent just off the open field where the rally is being staged.”

The Gazette-Journal noted the medical emergency took place 15 minutes before the gates were scheduled to open for the MAGA throng.

rgj.com

It doesn’t matter to the True Believers because they are brainwashed enough to be willing to die for Gawd’s Anointed King.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:55:43am

Benny to Booby Nincompoopo—FUCK YOU, I’M OUTTA HERE!

Israeli opposition leader Benny Gantz announces departure from war cabinet, upending Netanyahu government

The move by Gantz, a former general, may not bring down the government, but it destabilizes the emergency coalition formed after Oct. 7 and increases the political pressure on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to accept a Gaza cease-fire proposal that would bring home the hostages still held by Hamas.

Dark Brandon knew this was coming

washingtonpost.com

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 9, 2024 • 10:59:27am

re: #328 Joe Bacon ✅

First heat casualty reported at Trump Vegas rally hours before he takes the stage

Fears that fans of Donald Trump will be putting their health at risk if they attend his Las Vegas rally on Sunday appear to be coming true with medics being called for one victim more than three hours before the former president takes the stage.

On Saturday, the New York Times reported that Trump campaign staffers were scrambling to put in place measures to alleviate any health issues with the desert heat expected to hit a possible 104 degrees.

He could have sprung for an indoor venue. Maybe no indoor venue in Vegas would rent to him?

According to the Times, “The Trump campaign said it will have thousands of bottles of water on hand in Las Vegas to offer to people in line and to those already inside the security perimeter. It will put up tents around the park so that people can get out of the sun, and there will be at least one tent with air-conditioning. Campaign staff will set up a number of misting fans to help cool off attendees.”

So no giving water to people waiting in line to vote, but yes for his followers.

rgj.com

It doesn’t matter to the True Believers because they are brainwashed enough to be willing to die for Gawd’s Anointed King.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:04:27am

re: #329 Joe Bacon ✅

Shorter Benny: “Bye, Felicia.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:05:38am

re: #330 Eventual Carrion

Indoor venues are more expensive.

Trump is a cheap motherfucker currently buried in legal fees.

Do the math.

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Semper Fi  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:11:16am

re: #237 Vicious Babushka

Yesterday I saw my first Florida cockroach. It’s the size of a freaking Boeing! What do you use to kill those things that won’t put holes in the walls?

Roaches are tougher than a Boeing…they don’t self-destruct.

/

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:13:48am

re: #276 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If we were all hatched out as fully-formed, healthy adult individuals ready to have a basic education chip implanted in our brains and and then sent out to perform to the best of our abilities in the competitive maketplace, then I could understand the notion of a Libertarian, Ayn-Randian society.

But we are born fully dependent, rely on others to grow, develop and learn, while some of us remain dependent all our lives for various reasons, and most all of us become dependent again with increasing age.

I want to live in a society that reflects those relationships and deals with them in a humane manner, and I want to live in a society where everything is not reduced to the level of a fungible commodity and all human interactions are not merely business transactions.

Murray Rothbard suggested that government requiring you to raise a child with some sort of minimal standards was “force.” You should be allowed to sell your children into slavery if you wish or let them starve because children are your property.

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nowherenorth2  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:15:28am

Because this is more important than Clarence Thomas’ taking so much more money.

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EstebanTornado1963  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:15:43am

re: #330 Eventual Carrion

He could have sprung for an indoor venue. Maybe no indoor venue in Vegas would rent to him?

So no giving water to people waiting in line to vote, but yes for his followers.

Nobody wants that piece of shit. He went to Ahern, a MAGAT asshole yesterday. And Sunset park is probably the hottest spot in Vegas.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:16:39am

The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. The Trump family fortune was made in a brothel. The Brothel Behind The Trump Fortune (Canadiana Shorts)

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(((Archangel1)))  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:16:48am

Feel-good news of the day:

Haaretz: Benny Gantz, National Unity Party Quit Netanyahu Emergency Government

Decision was delayed solely due to the hostage rescue operation. Seems Netanyahu expected him to hesitate and stay longer after that, but not what happened this time.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:18:15am

re: #334 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Murray Rothbard suggested that government requiring you to raise a child with some sort of minimal standards was “force.” You should be allowed to sell your children into slavery if you wish or let them starve because children are your property.

Yeah and I sure do remember the Rothbardites at the Pitt Economics Department trying to spin that as acceptable as much as they pooh poohed Rothbard’s defense of slavery.

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:20:45am

re: #333 Semper Fi

Roaches are tougher than a Boeing…they don’t self-destruct.

/

If you crashed a 747 into a nest of roaches, they would all survive.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:22:55am

re: #282 wrenchwench

Texas State Historical Station

XERF

XERF is now part of Mexico’s public broadcasting system.

XERF was “border blaster” radio station AM 1570 out of Ciudad Acuña, Coahuila, Mexico, across from Del Rio, Texas. The call letters were registered in 1947 and transferred to the Instituto Mexicano de la Radio in 1986. Beginning in the 1930s, high-powered radio stations operated from just across the Mexican border where they were not subject to American broadcasting regulations regarding power, frequency, and content. Along with its competitors, XERF’s high-wattage transmissions could be heard across the United States and well into Canada. From the 1940s to the 1980s, XERF’s strong signal and expansive programming helped promote a broad range of artists and musical genres, including country, rhythm-and-blues, and rock-and-roll.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:26:03am

re: #335 nowherenorth2

Bothsiderism is a cancer.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:29:06am

re: #328 Joe Bacon ✅

If they want to kill themselves, go with (or to your) god.

A few less MAGAts is better for the entire world.

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sagehen  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:29:53am

re: #306 JC1

That guy caused a small airplane to crash uncontrollably. I’d argue that the helicopter fireworks stunt was far less dangerous.
People fire off tons of fireworks every 4th of July.

which in some jurisdictions is entirely illegal. In some states, you can’t even BUY fireworks. Those roadside stands full of sparklers and M80s? They’ve gone the way to riding in back of pickup trucks.

(when I was a teen, we used to take our fireworks to the beach. we felt that would carry zero fire danger.)

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sagehen  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:35:47am

re: #335 nowherenorth2

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Clarence got $4 million worth of gifts. Ketanji got Beyonce tix. Let’s call it even.

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Belafon  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:35:52am

re: #344 sagehen

Firework stands near me:

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sagehen  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:38:20am

re: #341 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Texas State Historical Station

XERF

XERF is now part of Mexico’s public broadcasting system.

Youtube Video

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Belafon  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:38:37am

re: #335 nowherenorth2

Which documents? The ones she filed?

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darthstar  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:40:29am

re: #335 nowherenorth2

So KJB has to recuse herself from any cases involving P-Diddy?

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:41:25am

re: #345 sagehen

Clarence got $4 million worth of gifts. Ketanji got Beyonce tix. Let’s call it even.

I didn’t read the article, but how did they know Beyonce gave her tickets. Maybe because she reported it on her forms which Clarence didn’t?

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A Three Hour Tour  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:42:54am

re: #345 sagehen

Clarence got $4 million worth of gifts. Ketanji got Beyonce tix. Let’s call it even.

Beyonce is extremely unlikely to be a party to a case before the Supreme Court with wide-ranging legal repercussions unlike those who regularly ply conservative Supreme Court justices with gifts and bribes.

But, hey … SQUIRRELL!!!!

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darthstar  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:46:48am

This is some skilled FPV drone flying. Hanging a Ukrainian flag on a radio tower in Belgorod. Serious ‘fuck you Putin’ energy here.

Mastodon

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darthstar  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:47:13am

Not sensitive content.

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:48:46am

Just came in from 3 hours of transplanting, shoveling, moving rocks etc.

Plus filling and emptying 4 carts of mulch.
About 20 cu feet per.

i was toast and time to quit

Oh look, it’s 103 degrees. That explains a lot

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cat-tikvah  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:51:03am

re: #345 sagehen

Clarence got $4 million worth of gifts. Ketanji got Beyonce tix. Let’s call it even.

And I’d guess Beyonce didn’t have any cases pending before SCOTUS to boot.

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Belafon  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:51:09am

re: #353 darthstar

Not sensitive content.

Republicans might have their feelings hurt over that one.

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BigPapa  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:52:09am

re: #356 Belafon

Republicans might have their feelings hurt over that one.

GQP Beans are the most sensitive things in the world.

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Belafon  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:55:28am
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Belafon  Jun 9, 2024 • 11:58:59am

re: #346 Belafon

I forgot to mention that while some of the stands are your regular walk-up stands, most of the ones along I-30 look like this:

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 12:01:04pm

re: #285 Vicious Babushka

It hasn’t moved since last night.

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Its dead jim

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 12:08:32pm

re: #289 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m sure the actual penalty won’t be 10 years — and probably not even prison time. But just because there was no intention to harm anyone doesn’t mean that something couldn’t go terribly wrong and cause serious injuries or damage.

I’m late to this party
Wrt any kind of firearm/2a discussion, adjudication must be based on the potential damage or destruction
yes somewhat mitigated by intent..reckless vs careless vs oops

We can’t have people out in public brandishing or pointing/aiming weapons or actually discharging them and then saying “no one got hit so no harm no foul”

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Dangerman  Jun 9, 2024 • 12:17:52pm

re: #330 Eventual Carrion

He could have sprung for an indoor venue. Maybe no indoor venue in Vegas would rent to him?

So no giving water to people waiting in line to vote, but yes for his followers.

Gmta

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danarchy  Jun 9, 2024 • 1:07:20pm

re: #351 A Three Hour Tour

Beyonce is extremely unlikely to be a party to a case before the Supreme Court with wide-ranging legal repercussions unlike those who regularly ply conservative Supreme Court justices with gifts and bribes.

But, hey … SQUIRRELL!!!!

Beyonce and Jay Z are worth billions and have lots of business ventures. Why would it be any less likely for them to wind up in a case before the supreme court than any other billionaire? Music rights and licensing issues also make it to the high courts on the regular.

That being said, I don’t give a shit who she gave tickets to.

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TedStriker  Jun 9, 2024 • 4:01:45pm

re: #282 wrenchwench

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