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1 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 14, 2012 9:17:15am

It’s extremely unfair to make Apple the only bad guy for this — nearly every consumer electronics company in America uses Chinese labor to make their products.

2 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 14, 2012 10:11:19am

“But they all do it” is a poor excuse. You know better than that.

AFL/CIO has condemned the Chinese government for allowing these deplorable conditions for all its workers, but have repeatedly singled out Apple as one of the worst offenders.

3 Interesting Times  Tue, Feb 14, 2012 10:26:59am

re: #2 Look At My New Grandbaby!

“But they all do it” is a poor excuse.

It’s the principle of the thing as well - sure, all tech companies may do it, but Apple charges much higher prices than they do. Knowing all the tech products you might want are made with slave labor is bad enough; paying a premium for them simply adds insult to injury.

4 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Feb 14, 2012 12:59:19pm

I don’t understand.

If you’re buying a car obtaining a Mercedes or Ferrari, neither of which is cheap, is considered a wise choice reflecting both a person’s wealth and automotive acumen. But for some reason paying more for a premium product such as Apple produces is considered a sign of quite the opposite.

Also I believe that if Apple made its products in the West with Western labour costs, which would result in higher costs, the people whining about Apple would do the following things. First, they’d whine even louder about Apple’s ‘excessively priced products.’ Secondly, they’d buy cheaper products made with Chinese labour.

The objection to Apple using Chinese labour is based more on the long running feud between PC people and Macintosh people than what sort of labour Apple uses. It’s a feud that is no more capable of resolution than the Israel-Palestine conflict, for the same reasons. There’s too much ego involved.

5 Interesting Times  Tue, Feb 14, 2012 1:34:04pm

re: #4 Romantic Heretic

If you’re buying a car obtaining a Mercedes or Ferrari, neither of which is cheap, is considered a wise choice reflecting both a person’s wealth and automotive acumen. But for some reason paying more for a premium product such as Apple produces is considered a sign of quite the opposite.

My point was, why the premium price for a product made under the same horrid conditions as cheaper products? Why can’t they use some of that Exxon-sized profit to improve conditions for their workers? If they’re doing so, great; if not, they deserve all the criticism they get and then some.

6 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 14, 2012 5:53:49pm

re: #2 Look At My New Grandbaby!

“But they all do it” is a poor excuse. You know better than that.

That’s not what I said. I said Apple is being unfairly singled out as especially bad, when the truth is that all of the major consumer electronics companies are just as guilty. Not excusing anyone.

It’s a problem across the board, but you can’t expect unilateral action from any of these companies, because they’d be giving up a huge advantage to their competitors.


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