re: #169 redc1c4

but, for the most part, our society values both women AND men by their looks: “Today, I was walking by a bunch of pretty girls. I’m not the most attractive boy, so I walked by nervously. I heard one yell “Hey cutie!” I turned to look, and they started laughing. She said “Oh my god, sorry! I assumed you were cute from your butt!” Apparently, my ass is nicer than my face. FML”

The difference is that historically women were valued only for their looks.

It’s a fairly new development in human history that women have attained enough economic/social independence that we can start treating men as sex objects, at least some of us some of the time.

And let’s not forget that our standards for ‘looks’ for men allow men to be considered hot all the way up to 60— whereas for women you have people like John Derbyshire genuinely suggesting that women stop being attractive around the age of 21 or so (!) and that this is “just the way eveolution made us”. Yeah, right.