re: #239 krypto

And there are others who are in comparable positions who appear to be saying that it is an important tool and has played a key role in twarting several terrorist attacks at the very least.

It is always possible to cherry pick the opinions to cite and ignore the others. (“Senators who are on your side”???? — does thatmean they can’t have opinions of their own? There are also Republicans who agree with Obama on this program and those that disagree.)

I can only base my conclusions on which claims seem be plausible, which is that the program is of course only a tool among several the government has to use to stop terrorist attacks - no reasonable person expects any one method to stop every attack or to be the only thing that plays any role, but it seems very plausible that it does help disrupt attacks.

So, I don’t understand who those expert who supporting it are? Clapper - he lied, admitted and appolgized for it. And anyone who has supported it basically said, “its prevented 50 attacks over the years. Trust me I can’t tell you much as it is classified”. And they all have a bias to believe it to be true or even lie.

Wyden and Udall say, “We have seen the data and it isn’t effective. So let’s declaissified that data and you judge for your self.” A little more convicing huh?