re: #390 iceweasel

Jimmah says : that sounds about right, re Condell. The C of E is stupid and annoying but also moribund and increasingly irrelevant, despite recent splutterings. What can you expect from a religion set up by a fat king who wanted more wives?/

iceweasel sez: Gus you’re right! Spain and Italy to start.

Italy banned IVF for lesbians a few years ago (adoption by gay people is likewise out the door). They instituted a law specifically asking about sexual orientation for women paying for IVF— to make sure no women who preferred women could get children in other ways.

That was a couple of years ago and I haven’t followed more of it.

But no one who looks at Ireland’s abortion laws and blasphemy laws alone can seriously claim europe is godless.

I know. It’s a stereotype that Europe is this godless or atheist country. Portugal is another example. They legalized abortion in 2007. The resistance was due in large part because of the Catholic church. They remain a highly religious country. It’s a lot of bunk when they say they’re Godless. Majorities are still with organized churches or deism. The rest are higher than the US with France being the highest with atheists. Overall though the majorities are believers.