re: #392 iceweasel

I think there is a significant difference.

Let’s assume, for the moment, that what you’re saying is true— that liberals and progressives are “cluttering up elemental [I assume you mean ‘elementary’] education with ‘self-esteem’ doctrines (etc)”

ID and creationist people are actively lobbying for, and often succeeding in!— changing our science curricula to INCLUDE RELIGION. At the expense of teaching science.

That’s a LOT worse than whatever it is you want to claim ‘progressives’ and ‘liberals’ are doing to the educational system by adding in crap about self esteem— and as I say, even if you were right, ID and Creationism have to be targeted first.

Why first? Notice your tactic, ID and Creationism is worst? I think all these doctrines should be stopped. “Self esteem” principle are like religion, and it is pushed by progressives with religious fervor.

You are not honest in this debate. If you think Creationism is worst, than where is the part of your comment that deals with that the intrusion of leftist secular “religious” thought is bad?

You don’t go there, because for you, what is happening in public schools is fine with you.

Why don’t we get together and stop all of this “religion,” secular or otherwise?