re: #458 LudwigVanQuixote

I repeat. It is one hundred percent certain that we are the primary cause of the present warming for the following reasons:

Why not repeat it in bold a dozen more times? Surely that will prove your point beyond any doubt! LOL

Ludwig,

All those are straw arguments because they are not being disputed. Each of those statements has a variable level of certainty and stands on its own merits.

The issue is not an individual mechanism, the issue is the confidence in the over all conclusions of the theory, such as the level of confidence that the anthropogenic influence is the primary driver of GW, or that specifically anthropogenic CO2 emissions are the primary driver of GW, or that certain feedbacks will occur in a certain manner in the future, and on and on like that.

Around each issue there is a level of confidence and a level of uncertainty. No one is saying that water isn’t wet or that gravity isn’t real.

Now, I see that while I am typing you shout again:

If you acknowledge the facts, as you claim you do, you must conclude that we are the primary driver of the present shift.

Again, strawBagua, certainly it is reasonable to “conclude” that we are the primary driver of the present shift. That is a reasonable conclusion and my conclusion as the science relates a greater 90% certainty with less than 5% doubt. That is also the IPCC consensus. Put that way you have no argument.

But say it is 100% certain and no, that is wrong. Even >99% certainty it is still reasonable to conclude that it is the case, and unreasonable to then state we are 100% certain.

Stop the games on your part. My point is correct.