re: #489 Obdicut

Both sides of that conflict were wrong, but you seem to only wish to discuss one side. There were provocations that led up to the First Crusade, and a serious study of the period doesn’t dismiss the context out of hand simply because the result was disastrous.

Well, I’m done with this thread. I tried to put the Crusades into an historical context, and you called me a moron. How nice.